535: Proper Governance
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From Relay, this is Connected, episode 535.
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Today's show is brought to you by Squarespace and NetSuite.
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I'm your annual chairman, Federico Vittucci,
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and it's my pleasure to introduce Mr. Steven Hackett
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to the show.
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Hello, Steven.
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Man, I don't have a title.
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It's bumming me out.
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Do better, right?
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Just get good.
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You got to get good.
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Make better guesses.
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I am joined by our keynote chairman, Mr. Mike Hurley.
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Still feels good to have a name.
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A name, yeah.
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I'm happy to still have something
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to hold on to for a while.
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That's good.
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Hey, speaking of holding on to things,
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we need to make something right.
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In September, during the podcastathon,
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we had a segment in which we taught Jason how to coin flip.
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And he graduated coin flip university.
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So we need to update the bill of Rickies.
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I still think we can use dice by p-calc, but in person,
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I think Jason could be allowed to make coin flips again.
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So I think we just take out the lifetime ban bullet point.
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Oh, my-- oh, my god.
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We're doing it?
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We're doing it.
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He successfully flipped a coin multiple times.
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It was-- it was--
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Federico was weird.
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I was there, and I don't really believe it.
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The man knows how to do it now.
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So it isn't fair to uphold the ban.
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It's like watching somebody learning, I don't know,
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how to smoke or whatever.
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Like, he's doing it now.
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I mean, or just flip a coin, which is what he did then.
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Or whistling, you know?
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Like, as he continued to whistle.
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What I'll say is, because we've got to observe the rules,
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let's just make a mark on the bill of Rickies.
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We will need to come back to this when the time is right,
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and we will adjust the wording.
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I will do a comment.
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For context, I will say, whenever we do it,
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I would still like to maintain in the written form the fact
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that Jason was bad at it before and then got good.
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It's like Jason Snell previously had a lifetime ban
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on flipping coins in relation to the Rickies.
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However, yes.
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And there needs to be the word "however" at some point
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in the phrasing.
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I'm making a comment on the page in Notion.
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So next time we play a game, we will look at this.
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And I will also just state for the record, based on--
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it's not in my power to summarize
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the amount of feedback that we have received
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about the previous games.
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Let's just say, like, we're all aware
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that there could be some potential issues
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with the new Bill of Rickies, but the fun will
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be finding that out together.
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It's basically what I'm going to say is, we'll see how it goes.
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And we're all going to go on this world of adventure
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together as we score this throughout the year.
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Something that I thought about, like,
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is if there is an Apple event during my parental leave,
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there's going to be some interesting--
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because obviously, I will nominate somebody, right,
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to play the game.
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It's just like when I was gone in October.
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No big deal.
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But you had nothing to lose.
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So if that person loses for me, then--
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Then they lose.
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--then I don't know.
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Then I don't know.
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I will have to contest it.
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You make them your stand-in.
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I'll have to contest it, because I don't know about you,
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but I know the Bill of Rickies, and there's
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nothing in the Bill of Rickies that talks about this.
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Well, you should have thought that before you had a kid.
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That's why I had my children before the Bill of Rickies,
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to avoid this.
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That is not why that happened.
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What I'm saying is, I'm sure it will be fine,
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but we'll see, you know?
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You got to pick somebody good.
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True champion or not.
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Maybe I'll pick one of you.
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That would be complicated.
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You thought about that?
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You know, who knows what's going to happen.
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We'll find out.
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Maybe Federico and I play against ChatGBT, you know?
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No, we did that once, didn't we?
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We played with ChatGBT once, and the people
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who make the Rickies websites were very upset with us.
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They were upset.
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The eternal struggle.
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That's the eternal struggle.
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We'll see what happens.
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I don't think it's something I need to worry about,
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because I don't think there's going
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to be an Apple event before WWDC, but you can never know.
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No, I think there'll be some new products,
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potentially, when you're out, but I think
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it's all press release stuff.
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You're not going to have a video for an M4 iPad Air or an M4
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MacBook Air.
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Well, lots of people will tell you that the iPhone SE is
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the most important phone that Apple makes,
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so they'll do an event for that, but I
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don't think that that's the case by any stretch.
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Speaking of devices that people think
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are more important than they actually are--
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Let's talk about the big iPad Air.
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Stephen, what did people write in to tell us about?
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So many people wrote in to tell us
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that they love the big iPad Air.
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So listener Robbie wrote in.
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This is Robbie.
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"I'm a musician and teacher and know many professionals
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who only buy the Pro model iPad to use
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the app Four Score to read sheet music at a legible size."
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Four Score has come up before on Mac power users.
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When we interview musicians, it's very popular.
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But it's not-- go back to Robbie-- it's not power hungry.
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You don't need an iPad Pro to run it.
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People just want the big screen.
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"Many of my peers were pleased at the announcement
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of a more affordable large iPad and will likely
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update to the large Air next cycle using it
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only for live performances."
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And Robbie has a link.
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We'll put it in the show notes talking
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about their rehearsal tech setup, which
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I found really interesting.
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So good use there, I think.
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And then listener Duncan wrote in.
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"Another reason that the 13-inch iPad Air exists
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is for businesses.
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I have multiple local restaurants
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in my city that have a 13-inch iPad Pro at the host stand
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to run the seating application."
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So like, you know, these booths are taken.
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These are waiting, that sort of thing.
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This is obviously overkill for the powerful iPad Pro.
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I'm sure there are other business applications that
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would be a better fit for the 13-inch iPad Air.
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A lower cost is a win for these small businesses.
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So yeah, people are excited about it, you know?
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As they should be.
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But it doesn't sound like any of these people
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have actually bought one.
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Well, I mean, Robbie sounds like he's going to.
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Yeah, but he hasn't.
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So he might change his mind when the time comes.
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What if they made a bigger iPad Mini, like a 13-inch iPad Mini?
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Yeah, what if, you know?
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We want Apple to get weird.
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Let's do it.
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Come on, Apple, think about it.
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Think about it.
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iPad Mini Plus.
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iPad Mini Max.
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See, they need you in these rooms, Steven.
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You know, Apple really went downhill after I quit, you know?
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Yes, that's true.
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I forget that when you said that,
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forgot that you worked at Apple.
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Yeah, I was a genius, you know?
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Conflict of interest right there, you know?
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I never worked at Apple.
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I never worked at Apple.
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Federico, you ever worked at Apple?
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Can Steven be trusted, really?
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Like, if you think about it?
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I'm not sure.
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Oh, I don't trust anyone.
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That's how you get around it.
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That's the way to do it.
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Can't have a conflict of interest
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if there's no interest, you know?
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And if I'm always conflicting, you know?
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Constant conflict, zero interest.
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Please, conflict is my father.
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Steven, you wrote an article about your UniFi setup.
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In the middle of that article,
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there is some follow-up for this show.
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You brought to the show a while back
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that you were having issues with battery drain
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on your Apple watches, and you weren't sure what it was,
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and then you kind of came to the conclusion
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that you thought it was your new Wi-Fi setup.
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And in this article, you referenced this
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and how you fixed it,
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so I want you to talk about that on the show.
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Yeah, so I switched over to Fiverr in October.
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It was finally available on my side of the street.
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You can read a lengthy explanation of that
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in the footnote of this article.
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Big footnote, big footnote.
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Yeah, it's almost its own article.
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Yeah, there are a couple examples of 512
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with a link list thing where I write one sentence
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but then two paragraphs in the footnote.
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Sometimes it's just fun, you know?
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I think Federico does a really good job of that
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in his reviews.
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The footnotes are some of the best parts.
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Yeah, yeah, thank you.
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You can't really footnote a podcast.
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I mean, we tried with the B-sides feature in our CMS,
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but no one uses it, so.
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It's not really a footnote so much, you know?
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That would be weird, wouldn't it,
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if you actually did do that anyway.
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That's when you write something on your toes.
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It's a footnote.
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We're done now, bye.
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Switched to Fyber.
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That kicked off, as you can imagine,
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a nerd project to update my wifi.
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And I ordered the U7 Pros,
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which is a line of wifi seven access points from Ubiquiti.
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And it seems like the U7 line in general
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maybe isn't ready for prime time.
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I had a lot of issues with IoT devices
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and the Apple watches in my household,
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dropping off the wifi, struggling to stay connected.
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And like, I'm sure you've experienced this,
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like if you go hiking or something
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and your phone drops out of cellular range, it gets hot,
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because it's like cranking up the radios
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to connect to something.
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And did some reading.
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Not everyone has this problem, let me say first of all,
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but some people seem to.
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So I swapped out the U7s for a U6 product
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called the U6 Mesh, which instead of being wall-mounted
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or like hanging on the ceiling,
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they're like standalone, like tubes, basically,
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you can just, I did that 'cause it was actually better
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for me to be able to sit them where I needed them.
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And that has solved the issue.
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So everything has been good.
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It does sort of negate my original goal
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of like I want faster wifi, 'cause these are just wifi six
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and that's what I had.
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But I'm hopeful the U7 line gets drained out
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and in the future I could upgrade to it.
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But in the meantime, I have enjoyed other benefits
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of being in the Unifi ecosystem.
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I for years had trouble because I was using
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just kind of cheap gigabit switches.
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I mean, I guess I could have bought something nicer,
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but every two or three years I would have like a Netgear
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or a Linksys, whatever gigabit switch just die.
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And I have one in the house and one in the office.
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The two buildings are connected by outdoor rated ethernet
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that is run between the buildings.
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And I just, things were always kind of flaky.
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I also had an issue where when you have an Eero set up,
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you have an Eero at the top of your network.
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So you have your cable modem or fiber modem or whatever,
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and then you have an Eero
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and that's where all the routing is handled.
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And for years across multiple Eeros,
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I would have that Eero drop its wired connection
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from gigabit to 100 megabit.
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And that was fine when I had slow internet,
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not fine when I had fast internet.
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And so I would be uploading a show,
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it's like, why is this taking so long?
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And my whole network was like capped at 100 meg
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because that head Eero would lower its connection speed.
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I was never able to fix that.
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And so that is fixed.
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I've got reliable switches and yes,
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the wifi is not as fast as I want it to be,
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but again, I could fix that in the future.
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I will say I was, I should have expected it.
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I was unaware.
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The UniFi community is a very particular group of people.
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Oh, that's one way to say it.
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So I had somebody like,
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someone was like, oh, how are you racking your gateway?
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'Cause the gateway have is like really small.
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It's basically the size of like a sandwich.
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I was like, I'm not, it's just like on a shelf
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in my kid's closet where the rest of my network stuff is.
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Like, it's fine.
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So it was like, why don't you running fiber
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between your house and your studio?
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It's like, 'cause I just have ethernet run.
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Like, it's fine.
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So I may not write about UniFi very much in the future
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to save my inbox.
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Why don't you just put a satellite dish
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on the side of your house and aim it at the pod cabin?
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Like that's what you should be doing instead.
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Do I want to run fiber between the house and the studio?
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Yeah, kind of, but there's no need to.
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'Cause everything I did is gigabit.
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So I didn't go to 2.5 gig.
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So yeah, seems to be fixed.
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Wi-Fi is not faster, but I got fancy network equipment.
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I feel like there should be a phrase,
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like a term for this though, where like,
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but like the original reason for changing
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I think from what you're saying,
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- Maybe you should go outside and look up into the blue sky.
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- Mastodon, the social platform, is becoming a nonprofit.
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So they're creating a European nonprofit entity
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that will be responsible for Mastodon ecosystem
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and platform components.
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Basically, Eugene Rochko,
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who is the founder, lead developer, creator of Mastodon,
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will no longer be solely responsible
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for the management and focus of the Mastodon product.
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And the nonprofit, we'll call it Mastodon nonprofit,
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will own the for-profit entity that currently exists.
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This has been reported in a bunch of places.
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TechCrunch had a good article about this,
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where I got this information from.
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One of the things in there was 835,000 monthly active users
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use Mastodon, which is really small.
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It's a big number, but for a social media network,
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that is small.
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I think it says something for what Mastodon is,
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where it is essentially, it's people like us, right?
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And I think at this point,
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that number to me was interesting
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because it signals to me that I don't consider it likely
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that this will grow significantly.
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I mean, what is, blue sky is like 20 million now
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or something like that, right?
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So, and you know, threads and Twitter are in the millions,
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I think a hundred million or something like that.
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I'm not particularly surprised by that number,
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but it's just interesting to see.
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You can make a very good business
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on 835,000 monthly active users though, I'm sure.
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But I think that is also seemingly
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not what they care about now.
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It just kind of making it sustainable and, you know,
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available and kind of like more political.
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- How many users do you say Mastodon has?
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- 835,000 monthly active users.
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- Yeah, so it looks like blue sky is 26 million.
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- Which is wild.
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- I found this interesting.
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It's interesting that they're doing this.
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It's a thing that really, it seems like
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they have announced that they're doing it,
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but we don't really know a lot of what the detail
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of what this is gonna be.
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The thing that immediately jumped to my mind is like,
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I would be interested to understand how in the longterm
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is a WordPress scenario avoided here.
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Like my original thought was like,
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how much control will Rojco continue to have?
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And so I give a couple of quotes from the TechCrunch article
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that are from Mastodon.
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Throughout, we will focus on establishing
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the appropriate governance and leadership frameworks
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that reflect the nature and purpose of Mastodon as a whole
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and responsibly serve the community.
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Mastodon is trying to avoid situations
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where only one person has decision-making powers
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with today's new structure.
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So it's interesting, but I think this,
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I'm not, I don't know.
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I don't know what I, like,
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I don't know if nonprofit entities and for-profit entities
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being owned by one another is really like a thing
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that works in the longterm.
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- I mean, just ask OpenAI, am I right?
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- Maybe I just don't know enough about this.
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Well, that's what I'm thinking of as well, right?
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Like if Mastodon, there remains a for-profit entity,
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they're currently just making money from Patreon
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and grants and merchandise.
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So it's not like, you know, whatever.
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But they might one day say like, all right,
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you have to pay to use Mastodon now.
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And like, then what happens, right?
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Like, how does that change the way
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that the for-profit entity considers itself?
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And then how does that change the nonprofit entity
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that owns the for-profit, it's very confusing, right?
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And like, I don't see a scenario where something
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that this isn't at least a little bit complicated.
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- Oh, it's absolutely complicated.
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I think any governance of a platform this big,
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you know, even 835,000 or whatever it is,
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it's bigger than anything we're doing.
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That's a complicated thing.
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And like the nonprofit thing is fine.
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But like what I wrote in my link to it was,
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what matters is like the people running the nonprofit, right?
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At the end of the day, it is still a series of decisions
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that has to be made.
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Is it better that it's gonna be some sort of board of people
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as opposed to one dude?
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Like probably, but it's not a fail safe.
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- We don't, it's not, these things are not inherently good
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because of the fact of what they are, right?
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- Nonprofit and charity and like group of people or what,
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they're not inherently good just because,
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or even open source, right?
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That's the other thing I was looking for.
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None of these things are inherently good
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just because of the way that they're set up.
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Like it still requires people making the right decisions,
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which they definitely won't do all the time.
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Federico, what do you think about this?
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- This is one of those things where I wish I had thoughts,
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but I really don't.
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- Probably because I am, I don't know,
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maybe I'm not mature enough.
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I don't know, I just, I would like to say something
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that doesn't make me sound like an idiot.
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- And there's probably no other way to see it, so whatever.
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Why can people like not be weird psychopaths on the internet?
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Like, why do we, like you ask,
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how do we avoid the WordPress situation?
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Like, not that I'm like accusing anybody
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of being a weird psychopath, but just broadly speaking-
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- These are two- - Please don't sue me.
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- Unconnected scenarios.
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- Just like, I honestly don't know what to say.
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Like, okay, now it's gonna be a nonprofit,
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but like, what if the nonprofit is managed
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by a bunch of weird psychopaths?
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- Like, what?
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Like, I just think whatever is gonna be Eugene Rochko
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or the nonprofit, whatever person or organization
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is behind Mastodon, if at some point they come out
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and be like, "Uh, guys, we like Nazis now."
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Like, no matter who's behind it,
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it's gonna turn the whole thing sour.
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- Yeah, and that's kind of what I'm saying.
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Like, these things, they sound nice, right?
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And that is interesting. - Yeah, sure.
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- And there's probably a lot of niceness in it,
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but none of these things give any kind of certainty
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to anything, is kind of what I'm getting at.
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Like, there's like, sure, there's more governance.
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Now everybody likes to use this word.
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This is like when everybody started using the word
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colorways last year.
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Now everybody's using governance.
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Okay, so now there's proper governance behind this.
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- Governance is the word of the year.
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- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So there's proper governance.
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All right, what happens if two years from now,
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turns out there's one real nasty weirdo in that nonprofit?
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Do we like Macedon now?
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- Like, the governance could slow Macedon down.
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- Right, like, there are still things
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that Macedon does not have that people want it to have,
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and there's like a roadmap, right?
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What if now the implementation of new features
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require the governance structure to approve,
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and that is a six month process, right?
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- So it's like, it's like,
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it's like slowing down further.
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It's like, all of these things are just different ways
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of doing things.
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It's not inherently good or bad.
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And the reason I mention this is I've seen a lot of people
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being like, oh, this is incredible, like, da da da.
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I am sure there are things about this that are better.
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And like, and you can look at this and be like,
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I would prefer this to threads.
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And like, and I understand that, right?
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Like, I get that.
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But it's, none of these things are good inherently,
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because they're still made up of people
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who are complicated.
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And like, you're saying about like the psychopath thing.
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I think anybody that wants to run anything of scale
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has something in their brain
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that makes them want to do that.
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That goes for me.
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I am including myself.
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Anyone that wants to run their own business
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has a thing in their brain that makes them want to do that.
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'Cause it's not, it is, you have,
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it goes for all of us, I think.
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Like, you have in you something which means
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you are willing to make decisions
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that impact other people.
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Like, you are willing to do that.
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That is a thing.
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And like, at a scale that is larger than just my own family.
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And like, not everybody is willing to do that or wants that.
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And that grows all the way up to,
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I want to leave my country, right?
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Like, there is a scale between business owner,
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this is a Mike Hurley thought,
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a business owner and president.
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And there is like a scale of like where you are on that.
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Because, and that is about how much power you want
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in your life, how much control you want in your life.
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And that there is a scale and a spectrum
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between these things.
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And like, the bigger the thing it is
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that you're trying to run,
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the more willing you are to make these kinds
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of decisions and choices.
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And that doesn't mean you're good,
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it doesn't mean you're bad.
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It just means that like, there is a level of detachment
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that you are willing for yourself to go through.
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And yeah, anyway.
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- And just, yes.
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- You're getting ready to be a dad.
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- What if you form a nonprofit to raise your child?
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- It's a governance structure.
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She needs to be feeding.
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I think, well, I mean,
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it feels like there is a governance structure already.
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Which includes everybody else in my family, but like.
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- That's complicated.
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We can talk about that online.
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- There already is a governance.
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It really feels like there is a governance structure
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that's gonna own the internal structure of my own family
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inside of its family.
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- But yeah, that's kind of my,
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I don't know why I decided today I wanted to share this,
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like, thing that I consider to be a fundamental truth,
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but that is it.
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Just like, everybody and people, people make decisions.
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Those decisions aren't always good,
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and that is just kind of the way it goes.
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And no structure can guarantee good.
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Because the structure's also changed.
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Because you look at open AI, it's like,
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oh yeah, nonprofit, that's good.
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Until they decide they don't wanna be that anymore.
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And now, well, now all the bets are off, right?
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- Yeah, yeah.
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I think, I think especially with these things,
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especially with like technology products,
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there's the type of nerd,
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and I'm saying that in a lovingly affectionate way,
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nerds tend to seek consistency and rigidity,
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and something that is predictable.
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So like, oh, Mastodon announced a nonprofit,
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that means it's always gonna be good,
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because we like nonprofits, right?
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But like you said, like, people change their minds,
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people change their nature, people are, guess what?
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Inherently opportunistic.
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There is something that I fundamentally believe,
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and you will not, nobody can change my mind about this.
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This may be the most obvious, silly thing
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I've ever said on the show, everybody has a price.
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Literally everyone on planet earth has a price.
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There is a monetary amount that hypothetically
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I could give to Eugene Rojko and be like,
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hey, I want you to become real nasty on Mastodon
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after I write you this check.
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There is that amount, there's a number,
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there's a number that hypothetically
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I could put on that check, right?
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And so that kind of utopian like scenario where,
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oh, everything is always gonna be the same.
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Like I could potentially, I could name one technology
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that was released, never touched again,
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and it always stayed the same, and it's RSS.
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It was literally created, released on the web,
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and they never got weird.
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In fact, it's so awesome.
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- That's only because nobody owns it.
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- Exactly, because nobody,
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the moment that a person owns anything,
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there is the potential to be used for good,
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but also to be used for evil and nasty things.
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And there's never gonna be consistency.
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- RSS is used for nasty things.
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- Sure, do you subscribe to any?
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- Well, no, it's like, it can be used for ill, right?
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'Cause it is just,
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the same as like I am convinced there is hate on Mastodon.
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I know it's there, I just haven't found it as such.
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- Right about ubiquity.
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- See, there you go.
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But there are definitely communities on Mastodon
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that aren't good, right?
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- Yeah, yeah.
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- Yeah, 'cause ultimately, like Federico said,
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people are opportunistic, I can't say it.
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- You got there, but you got there.
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- But also like all of these platforms
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have the same inherent problem
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that short form text-based social media is just problematic.
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And when you can hide behind an anonymous face,
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or even if you're required to use your own name and face,
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people are ugly on the internet,
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and that's just how things are.
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- Yeah, it doesn't matter.
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- So basically within you, there are two wolves.
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One is good wolf and the other is bad wolf,
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and try not to succumb to the bad wolf, if you can.
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That's basically the gist of it.
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- I will sum this up by saying,
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I think that it is very good
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that the people who run Mastodon are trying their best.
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Right? - Yes.
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- That they want to do things the right way,
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and I think that is good.
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I have been especially reminded of that
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over the last couple of weeks,
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that it's like, oh, they're trying, you know,
00:31:03
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like they're trying out here.
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But my point is like, I am intrigued about it.
00:31:08
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I want more information,
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'cause I don't really feel like
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they've given a lot of it yet,
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'cause it feels like they're very much working it out,
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and they just wanted to announce that they were doing it,
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and they definitely chose a right time for that.
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I think from a PR perspective,
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they chose a right time for that.
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I don't know if that was their consideration,
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but they did anyway.
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And I am intrigued to see where they go with it.
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I want to see them do good stuff with it.
00:31:28
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I believe in Mastodon now more than maybe I have in a while.
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But it's just like, just to remember,
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so we don't get disappointed,
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potentially get disappointed later on,
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none of these things give perfect outcomes.
00:31:44
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And I think we would all be happier
00:31:46
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if we stopped looking for them.
00:31:47
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It's like, you also don't have to delete
00:31:51
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your WordPress blog.
00:31:52
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Like, you don't have to do that.
00:31:53
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Like, you know, like all of these things,
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like you gotta find what works for you.
00:31:58
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You find your own way of drawing the circles
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you need to draw.
00:32:03
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Like, but we can't get along forever
00:32:07
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hoping that everything will be perfect forever,
00:32:09
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'cause otherwise, really the only thing you can do
00:32:12
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is just not use the internet.
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- So switching gears to something hopefully more fun
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and less, I don't know, maybe we were not pessimistic,
00:34:00
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we were realistic, but in any case, a very different topic.
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I had an idea.
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It's a new year.
00:34:06
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Mike is gonna be a dad in this new year.
00:34:09
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So I thought,
00:34:11
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I wanted to take a look at what are some of the apps,
00:34:17
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some of the services, some of the maybe changes
00:34:21
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in our typical workflows that at some point this year,
00:34:26
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we think we would like to try.
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Like what are things,
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usually I have these thoughts over the holiday break.
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I'm like, what do I wanna try in the new year?
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Like, is there anything new that I wanna try?
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New apps, new web services?
00:34:41
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Is there a particular change about the way I work
00:34:44
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that I wanna try next year?
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So I thought, let's think about these things
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and I think we can round robin them.
00:34:50
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Although I think Steven, until a few minutes ago,
00:34:53
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only had one kind of menacing item in his notes.
00:34:58
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- I do like the idea of round robin though.
00:35:00
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I do like that.
00:35:01
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Maybe Steven sometimes would just have to say same.
00:35:04
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- It's gonna be lumpy.
00:35:05
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Mike has like six things in here.
00:35:07
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- Yeah, well, you know,
00:35:08
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I can just like round robin at the end to myself.
00:35:10
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We'll find out.
00:35:11
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- Yeah, I ain't gonna go first.
00:35:13
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I'm gonna just try rip the bandaid off
00:35:16
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- Yeah, you are with this first one, my friend.
00:35:18
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- Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fine.
00:35:20
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You know me, I don't care about people's judgment
00:35:23
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except for my girlfriend and my dogs,
00:35:27
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although they're not strictly speaking people.
00:35:30
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- Do they have thoughts about email?
00:35:31
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- Well, I'm sure they have thoughts
00:35:34
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about the computers I use.
00:35:36
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In any case, I am trying Superhuman as my email client.
00:35:45
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And here's the best part.
00:35:46
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Yes, it's very expensive.
00:35:48
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- I was gonna say like talking about like
00:35:50
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everyone has a price.
00:35:51
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Puerto Rico's is pretty high.
00:35:55
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- Yeah, because I gotta pay for Superhuman, man.
00:36:00
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I need that nasty check.
00:36:04
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It's surprisingly good.
00:36:08
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That's the thing that surprised me the most.
00:36:11
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Like I don't hate it.
00:36:13
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In fact, I kinda really like it.
00:36:17
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- Tell me why.
00:36:18
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Tell me why.
00:36:19
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- This is more expensive than I thought it was, Federico.
00:36:22
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- Yeah, because they added AI and they raised the prices.
00:36:25
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- So did, I got an email today, Mike,
00:36:28
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I should tell you this.
00:36:29
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Our Google Workspace bill is gonna go up
00:36:31
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because they decided everyone should pay for Google Gemini.
00:36:34
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- But what if we don't use it?
00:36:38
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Well, I'm pleased that I actually started using it.
00:36:40
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I upgraded the one that I have for Cortex brand
00:36:43
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'cause I'm using Notebook LM very slowly.
00:36:48
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So I had already done it.
00:36:49
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So I guess now I won't feel that too much
00:36:51
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'cause I'm already using Gemini.
00:36:53
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- So I like it for a bunch of reasons.
00:36:57
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I try not, I mean, obviously the price is a concern.
00:37:02
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The thing is like between like regular emails
00:37:06
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like from developers, like discovering apps,
00:37:10
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working with developers for betas and stuff,
00:37:13
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working with PR people, and also like using email
00:37:16
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because of Club Maxory support.
00:37:18
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Like it is a core part of my business
00:37:22
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and I spend a lot of time in email.
00:37:24
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Like it's what I do.
00:37:25
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And so I'm not saying that the price is justified
00:37:29
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because I don't think it is,
00:37:30
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but I don't feel awfully terrible about it.
00:37:34
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- You feel like you're getting something
00:37:35
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for the money you're putting in.
00:37:36
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- I am, I am.
00:37:37
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So it is surprisingly fast.
00:37:40
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And it's, I think, the best search,
00:37:43
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the fastest search I've ever tried in an email client.
00:37:47
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I think it's faster on desktop devices.
00:37:51
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It's a very much like a keyboard-driven email client.
00:37:55
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On desktop, it's very impressive how fast it is.
00:38:00
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I'm using it primarily on iPhone and on the iPad.
00:38:02
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And so while the interactions are still fast
00:38:05
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on iOS and iPadOS, they're not as fast as on macOS.
00:38:10
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And I have to imagine, I think they are on Windows too.
00:38:14
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Still, there are a lot of keyboard shortcuts
00:38:17
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and I really appreciate the keyboard navigation
00:38:19
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that is also supported on iPad,
00:38:21
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where you have like things that you, like hotkeys,
00:38:24
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where you don't have to use the command key.
00:38:26
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Like for example, I'm looking at an email.
00:38:29
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I can just press the letter E, like on Gmail desktop,
00:38:33
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to instantly archive that message.
00:38:35
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And there are plenty of those similar keyboard shortcuts.
00:38:38
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The main thing for me is the,
00:38:42
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they're called split inbox approach
00:38:45
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and notifications based on each split.
00:38:49
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So a split would be like a view.
00:38:51
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It's basically like you can create multiple custom views
00:38:55
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for a particular subset of senders.
00:38:59
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You have your default important split.
00:39:02
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So a split like, they call it split
00:39:04
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because they literally split the screen in multiple tabs.
00:39:07
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You can call them tabs, you can call them views.
00:39:09
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The idea is the same.
00:39:10
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You create multiple views for different types of senders.
00:39:14
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I have my PR view, where all the people from Apple PR go.
00:39:18
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And you can do that by literally like creating a filter
00:39:21
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and adding contacts via their email addresses to that view.
00:39:25
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I have a purchases view, where I created like emails
00:39:30
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that I get from PayPal, from Amazon, from eBay,
00:39:32
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like all the places that I used to buy stuff online.
00:39:35
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I created a split called internal,
00:39:39
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where I keep track of email communications,
00:39:41
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starting from the Mac storage team.
00:39:44
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So threads that I share with John, with Rob,
00:39:48
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with Alex and so forth.
00:39:49
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You may say, well, don't you wanna use AI products
00:39:53
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that categorize emails for you?
00:39:55
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Yes, I would like to, but the thing is,
00:39:57
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they don't do a good enough job,
00:39:58
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and I am too particular about my email
00:40:01
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to fully trust those implementations.
00:40:03
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So I very much like this idea of like,
00:40:05
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I'm gonna create my own splits.
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I'm gonna take like an hour of my time
00:40:09
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to do some organization,
00:40:10
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but then I know that those things are gonna work forever.
00:40:14
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And for each split, you can configure notifications.
00:40:17
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So for example, I don't wanna be notified
00:40:20
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when I get like a newsletter,
00:40:23
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but I wanna get notified if something hits my PR
00:40:26
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or my important split.
00:40:29
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So that granular control really works for me.
00:40:31
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Search is great, regular search,
00:40:37
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but I was also surprised by their new Ask AI feature.
00:40:41
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Now, sure, this feature is not for everybody
00:40:45
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because it's kind of creepy.
00:40:46
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Obviously, superhuman is storing the contents of your emails
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and there's an AI looking at those,
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but like after 15 years of trying multiple email clients,
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signing up for a whole bunch of apps and services,
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I'm past the point of creepy.
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Now, if anybody wants to read my email,
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because they're shady and they're running a shady business,
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like I'm well past, like that ship sailed many years ago.
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So whatever, the Ask AI is great.
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Not perfect, but more than good, I would say.
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Like you can ask a question like,
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hey, for example, yesterday I was like,
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when did I buy the anti-glare Steam.co.led?
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And it says, "Analyzing your email."
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And like 15 seconds later it was like,
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I found your confirmation received
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from the Steam.co.led anti-glare last year
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on such and such day.
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Like, and over the past few days,
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I've had plenty of similar natural language queries
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about my emails where I remembered one or two details,
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but like if I wanted to use regular search,
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it would have taken me five minutes
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to maybe find that exact message.
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Here, I can just write down a sentence
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and it's gonna use my data.
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It's gonna look into my data to find me the result.
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Now I understand some people are not okay with that.
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I am okay with AI helping me with my stuff, with my consent,
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because I get hundreds of emails every day.
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Nobody's got the time for that.
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I need to be efficient.
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I need to be fast.
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And so anything that helps me find the stuff I'm looking for
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and be faster is good enough for me.
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I like, look, it's expensive, but I'm gonna keep using it.
00:42:32
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- Do they have team?
00:42:33
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They're like, is there like team sharing?
00:42:35
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Like can you and Jon both use superhuman and have a chat?
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- I think they do,
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but I think Jon fundamentally hates superhuman.
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So I haven't even pitched it.
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- Oh, Paul, I feel, you know what?
00:42:48
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I already see where this is going and I feel bad for Jon.
00:42:51
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- Where it's going is Jon's gonna turn max stories over
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to a nonprofit to run.
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Take Federico's decision making away.
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- Yeah, yeah.
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So yeah, it's-
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- So really your main use case,
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your main kind of like set of features
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that you're benefiting from is the way it integrates with AI
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and also the way in which you can kind of create
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custom saved filters.
00:43:16
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- Oh yeah, yes.
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You have other features.
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I just sort of took them for granted.
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Like you can snooze emails.
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- Yeah, I mean, it's got all the basics.
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I'm just wondering like, what is it about superhuman
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that is better than like Spark and yeah.
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I mean, Spark, Spark, bless them.
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Bless them, they're trying with AI, but it's yeah.
00:43:35
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- Yeah, no, it's not good.
00:43:37
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I also wanted to mention like, yes,
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it was the splits, AI, the notifications.
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I also love, like really love, especially on iPad,
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Command + K opens the command bar
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that is kind of like Raycast
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or kind of like the Obsidian command palette,
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but for email.
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Like you just entered the name of your command,
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like block or spam or undo, like whatever.
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Like you can, yeah, it's very nice.
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- All right.
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Anything more on superhuman?
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- No, I think that's about it.
00:44:11
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Feel free to make fun of me.
00:44:12
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I can take it.
00:44:13
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I've been around, so.
00:44:15
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- I think all of mine are baby related.
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Oh, I'm not next anyway, so Steven, you're going first.
00:44:22
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- Steven is up next with the real menacing entry.
00:44:24
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- The real menacing one is file storage upheaval.
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- Oof, okay.
00:44:29
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- It deleted everything.
00:44:30
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- I think it's menacing because coming from you,
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a data folder. - It's eight terabytes.
00:44:34
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- Yes, it's concerning.
00:44:36
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- So two things have happened in the last little while.
00:44:41
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The first one is, okay, so I will admit
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that I got the one terabyte iPhone this time around
00:44:49
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because I lack having my photo library locally on my device.
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- You did it the last time around too.
00:44:54
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- I've done it a couple of times, yeah.
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- And the reason I know that is because we both agreed
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that our company was buying us five 12 gigabyte iPhones
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and then you decided you were gonna get
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a one terabyte iPhone for yourself.
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That's how I know it happened last time too.
00:45:05
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- You know, there's perks of holding the debit card.
00:45:07
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- Yeah, turns out.
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- I thought you did it for the PDFs, man, not for the photos.
00:45:12
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- That's right. - Turns out you, okay.
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- I was gonna have my Dev and Think database
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locally on my phone in case I'm on a subway
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and I need to look up something about the email.
00:45:20
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- You're joking, you're joking, you're joking,
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but I know that you've thought about it.
00:45:26
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- So I got the dreaded message that your iPhone is full
00:45:30
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and looking through the storage screen on the phone,
00:45:35
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which is way slower than it should be still,
00:45:37
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even with all these things.
00:45:39
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You know what, give up on Apple intelligence
00:45:41
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and make that screen faster, Apple, you know?
00:45:44
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That's what I'm saying.
00:45:45
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And the only solution was to, on my phone,
00:45:49
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have my photo library do the thing
00:45:52
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where it's mostly in the cloud.
00:45:54
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I now have 850 gigabytes free on my phone.
00:45:58
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So not gonna be buying a one terabyte phone anymore.
00:46:03
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I will go, I will go smaller for sure.
00:46:07
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So this happened, but when I was looking at my storage,
00:46:11
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I realized that my iCloud family plan,
00:46:13
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which is four terabytes, we have less than a terabyte free.
00:46:18
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I think it's like 500 gigs free,
00:46:22
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'cause that has our shared photo library
00:46:24
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between Mary and I, but two of my children have phones
00:46:29
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and they got backups and their own,
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my daughter in particular, growing photo library.
00:46:35
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- That still feels like a lot though.
00:46:37
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- It is a lot, it is a lot.
00:46:39
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- Are you sure there's not things
00:46:40
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that can be removed from there,
00:46:41
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like old devices that are backed up?
00:46:43
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- I did look through the backups.
00:46:45
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I had one old iPhone that was taking up some backup space,
00:46:50
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so I got rid of it and on Mary, she had an old iPad,
00:46:53
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but that wasn't like a terabyte data, right?
00:46:57
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So it's mostly photos, which I believe.
00:47:00
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So I'm also going to be running into soon
00:47:04
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having to jump up in iCloud space
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unless I can do something.
00:47:07
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And honestly, I don't know what to do about that.
00:47:09
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So that's thing one, iCloud photo library, all that.
00:47:14
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I like iCloud photo library, I don't wanna change it.
00:47:16
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I like the family sharing.
00:47:18
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I'm probably just gonna have to pony up
00:47:19
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for the six gigabyte plan, which is the next one up.
00:47:22
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- How have you found so far not having--
00:47:23
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- I said four terabyte, by the way,
00:47:25
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we're on the two terabyte plan.
00:47:26
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There's not a four terabyte, you go from two to six.
00:47:29
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So forgive me.
00:47:31
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- Okay, how so far have you found
00:47:33
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not having your photos locally on your device?
00:47:36
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- Just today I wanted something and I tapped on it
00:47:38
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and it was like downloading from iCloud
00:47:40
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and it just on my fast fiber just spun for like 10 seconds.
00:47:45
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I was like, oh, come on.
00:47:47
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So anyway, but I gotta do it.
00:47:49
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Like we have 90,000 things
00:47:53
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in our shared photo library at this point.
00:47:54
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So I just have to live with it.
00:47:58
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- If they bring it to terabyte iPhone next year,
00:48:00
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will you just get a two terabyte iPhone
00:48:02
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and re-enable it again?
00:48:03
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- I mean, we'll see what the nonprofits do.
00:48:06
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- No, you'll do it.
00:48:08
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We know you'll do it, don't even.
00:48:10
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Although I predict you'll buy two iPhones next year.
00:48:12
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So I predict it'll be great.
00:48:13
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I also predict it for you, Federico.
00:48:15
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I don't know if you've heard it yet either.
00:48:17
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- Oh, I heard it.
00:48:19
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- My prediction that I share here
00:48:20
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is that both of you will buy the slim iPhone
00:48:22
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and then change to another iPhone before the end of the year.
00:48:24
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- Oh no, I don't think I'll buy it at all.
00:48:28
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- I want it so bad.
00:48:30
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- I know myself, I'll just get the Pro Max.
00:48:32
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- We'll see is what I'm saying.
00:48:36
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- It's been a while since I swapped phones mid-cycle.
00:48:43
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- Can't say that about Federico.
00:48:45
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- I don't know, no, you say it's been a while.
00:48:47
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I don't know if that's true for you.
00:48:48
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- No, it is true.
00:48:49
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- You just said that, but I'm not sure that that's true.
00:48:52
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- Yeah, it's been years.
00:48:52
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- What you just said.
00:48:53
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I don't know if that's accurate.
00:48:56
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- Someone will correct us if it is,
00:48:57
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but I'm not sure that that's accurate.
00:48:59
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- It's also been a while since I broke a phone.
00:49:02
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- Didn't you recently buy a phone and then change it
00:49:05
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'cause of the color?
00:49:07
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I'm using my pink desert titanium phone with no case.
00:49:13
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Living my life.
00:49:15
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- So that's thing one, I gotta contend with all that.
00:49:18
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Thing two is I switched, I became a UniFi person.
00:49:23
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I've been ubiquity pilled.
00:49:24
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UniFi sells a relatively inexpensive NAS.
00:49:31
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- There we go.
00:49:32
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- And I saw a friend of mine about this.
00:49:35
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Doing the NAS and filling it with hard drives
00:49:40
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and moving stuff off my laptop
00:49:43
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that I don't actually need on my laptop,
00:49:45
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I could do that several times
00:49:48
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before paying for the eight terabyte again.
00:49:50
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Now I did just buy a new laptop at the end of the year,
00:49:53
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but I'm kind of thinking for the future.
00:49:59
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- Why do you wanna do this?
00:50:01
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The whole point of that spending the $4 million
00:50:05
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for an eight terabyte SSD is because you say,
00:50:08
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I want it all on the computer.
00:50:10
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What if you move it off the computer,
00:50:11
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it's not there anymore.
00:50:13
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So why do you wanna do this?
00:50:15
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You just constantly move things around.
00:50:18
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All you ever wanna do is move things.
00:50:20
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- It's upheaval.
00:50:21
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I really like copying stuff in Finder I guess.
00:50:24
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I think I'm gonna have to do it.
00:50:27
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I think maybe after having three kids,
00:50:32
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now you are substituting that feeling
00:50:36
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with sort of birthing archives and hard drives instead.
00:50:43
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- You need that thrill in your life.
00:50:45
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And I understand it, I understand it.
00:50:48
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- But there's gotta be a cheaper way to do it, man.
00:50:50
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- Yeah, tattoos would be a cheaper way of doing it.
00:50:54
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- Here's what's gonna happen if you do this.
00:50:57
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You're gonna keep everything on your laptop
00:51:00
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and then also store it on a NAS.
00:51:01
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That is what will happen.
00:51:03
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And at that point, why?
00:51:04
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- Why is none?
00:51:05
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- No, because then you'll get the NAS,
00:51:09
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then you'll back up the NAS.
00:51:11
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So then everything will be 12 places instead of seven
00:51:15
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or wherever it is right now.
00:51:16
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Do whatever makes you happy ultimately,
00:51:21
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but just understand that you will wanna keep it locally.
00:51:26
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- Yeah, upheaval.
00:51:28
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So I'm just gonna spend some time this year
00:51:29
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just evaluating my storage stuff.
00:51:33
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- It's a new thing for you, it's a new thing.
00:51:35
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- It's not new, but here I am.
00:51:37
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Tell us about yours.
00:51:40
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- All of my things are baby related.
00:51:43
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So obviously I'm gonna be taking a lot of photos,
00:51:47
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more photos than ever.
00:51:48
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Maybe I will need to move to iCloud Photo Library
00:51:53
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at some point in the future.
00:51:53
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Although I feel like my timeframe on that
00:51:55
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is a little bit further out.
00:51:57
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My photos are, I don't know, like 700 megabytes
00:52:02
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or something like that right now,
00:52:04
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but I know it's gonna increase.
00:52:05
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I mean, one of the ways that I know it's gonna increase
00:52:07
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is because one of the things I wanna do
00:52:09
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is not just take photos, it's actually to take more video.
00:52:11
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I'm not much of a taking video person,
00:52:15
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but I know that I will want to do more of that
00:52:19
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because there's a lot of that.
00:52:21
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And somebody wrote in, made a specific suggestion,
00:52:24
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which is the main thing that I'm recommending,
00:52:26
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is to use an app called One Second Every Day.
00:52:29
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'Cause it's one of these apps that's like,
00:52:32
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hey, take a second of video
00:52:33
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and basically to take one second of video
00:52:35
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of my child every day.
00:52:37
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- Yeah. - It's really cool.
00:52:38
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- It's amazing looking back on video,
00:52:40
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just your kids, the way they talk and their voices change.
00:52:44
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It's really good, that's good advice.
00:52:46
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- Yeah, so I wanna have video as well as photos.
00:52:50
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And I also like the idea of this,
00:52:52
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like if I do it, like we all used to do this, right?
00:52:56
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Like there was that photo a day thing,
00:52:58
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like a long time ago, like early on in the iPhone.
00:53:01
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Do you remember this?
00:53:02
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Take one picture of yourself every day.
00:53:05
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And it was like an app that you could line up your face
00:53:08
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from the previous day.
00:53:09
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- Oh yeah. - Oh yeah.
00:53:11
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- And it was based on a guy,
00:53:13
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the guy who made the app had done that himself
00:53:15
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for a long time, I think still does,
00:53:18
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but was doing it with like a DSLR camera.
00:53:20
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And then he made an app to do it.
00:53:22
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And it was a thing that lots of people did.
00:53:24
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I did that and then like you would share it every year,
00:53:26
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like lots of people would do that.
00:53:28
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Like you'd share it at the end of the year,
00:53:29
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kind of how we do our Instagram top nine,
00:53:30
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but like that all went away.
00:53:32
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But the idea of doing it in video,
00:53:34
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I just think is really fun.
00:53:35
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So I'm gonna try this app out.
00:53:38
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I've downloaded it and this is gonna be one
00:53:39
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that I'm gonna wanna have set up when the baby comes.
00:53:42
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- All right, Mike, you have plenty of pics.
00:53:46
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Go grab another one.
00:53:48
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- Okay, similarly, photo sharing with family
00:53:53
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is obviously a thing that I'm gonna need to do now
00:53:55
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more than I've ever done before.
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In fact, I've never done before
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and typically don't like that experience,
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but I know that it's something that I will wanna do
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and like the rest of my family will wanna do.
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So I'm assuming I will just use iCloud photo library
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for this, like I know that there are apps that exist
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that serve these functions,
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but everybody that I would be sharing these images with
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has an iPhone and I don't wanna use another thing.
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And like me and Adina have actually started
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a specific shared album for just the two of us
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for like through this process of like photos
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of how she's been growing and photos of scans
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and stuff like that, that will continue to be mine and hers.
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So we have like a shared album,
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even though we also have a shared library,
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but like there's, just so we can look through these
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like specific photos we've curated
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and then we will eventually have an album
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that is shared more widely, right?
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Like we have family and friends,
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if they want it kind of thing of pictures of the baby.
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So I guess I'm opting for iCloud photos for this.
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I've already had a few people recommend apps for it,
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but I don't think I need anything other than this.
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Unless there's something that I'm not thinking about.
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- Okay, the second item in my list of three items
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is continuing to go even more all in once again with Obsidian
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because I am fully back after a couple of years
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of trying a whole bunch of things.
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I realize Obsidian is my first love.
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My, Obsidian is, Obsidian is my second love actually in life.
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As an editorial widow myself,
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I found love again with Obsidian after editorial went away.
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And I know that I will never love Obsidian
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as much as I love the editorial,
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but it's a different type of love.
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And I truly do my best work, I think, and my best research.
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Like I really, really like working in this app
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and I've been making good progress
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in reapproaching Obsidian.
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I, much to my surprise, I started using daily notes.
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I have become a daily notes person
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and have been for nearly two months at this point.
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Once I understood that I didn't have to be
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the kind of person who has meetings every day
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to use daily notes, that's when it clicked for me.
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I'm just using daily notes to write down
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what I'm doing every day and then when I'm done,
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I just cross those items off.
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Or maybe I leave them there for future reference, who knows?
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I created this nice looking template for my daily notes
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that I'm gonna share at some point with people
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and it's been going really nicely.
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And I will continue to integrate Obsidian
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more and more with Todoist.
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I am now also back and have been back
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for the past couple of months on Todoist.
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I'm using both Reminders and Todoist.
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I understood that for personal Reminders,
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like medications and stuff, or family and shopping lists,
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I'm using Reminders.
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And it's okay, it's great at that,
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but for work stuff and especially for automation stuff,
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I just needed a higher flexibility of Todoist.
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And I have a couple of things that I'm using
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to integrate Todoist with Obsidian
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and I think I will continue to try
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and put together additional shortcuts,
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that sort of stuff, to have even tighter communication
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between the two.
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I'm very excited about finally having a proper structure
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for my notes, which is something that I've felt
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for the past couple of years.
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And the thing is, I really consider the article
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that I published last month about the iPad
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the culmination of this two-year journey,
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where I tried everything under the sun
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that I could possibly try.
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And if I finally came to a decision
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and it's like that sort of domino effect
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of once I made that decision, everything fell into place.
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And so to people, it may look like
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I'm constantly switching between things
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that to an extent I am, because it's my job to try stuff.
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But I know because I feel it,
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that I am now sticking with a particular set of tools.
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And so this combination of iPad, Obsidian, Todoist,
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reminders and Apple Notes for personal and family stuff.
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Like I know that everything is finally clicking into place
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after two years and I feel incredibly good about it.
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In a way that I haven't felt for the past two years,
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where I always felt, when it came to my workflow,
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I always felt sort of confused and unsure
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what I was gonna do.
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I mean, heck, for six months, I used the Surface
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two years ago and I never told you guys about it.
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That's how bad it got at one point.
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So when I say that I feel very good about my decision,
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- What goes in your daily notes?
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Like what is that for?
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- Okay, let's see.
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Let me open my daily notes.
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All right, so first of all, I made it easy for myself.
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So that I created this template where there's a big giant
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toggle at the top that says, is this day done?
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And it's an iOS style on and off switch.
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And when I consider the day done, I flip it
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and it turns green and it gets archived.
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Yesterday, I still gotta do a couple of things.
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There's a link to a Reddit thread
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about an Obsidian plugin that I wanna check out.
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And there's a link to another Obsidian note.
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So it's an internal link to action items
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from a quarterly call that I had with John
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about Mac stories.
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Two days ago, let's see.
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I had, I was making a list of games that were being mentioned
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on the Game of the Year episode of Into the Aether,
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one of my favorite with the games podcasts.
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Another day I had, this is a shortcut idea.
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And it says, can I recreate the Obsidian web clipper
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using shortcuts and the summarization features
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of the Kagi search engine or Kagi, whatever it's called.
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So like, it's basically like, I'm using the daily note
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as a fast way to open a place in Obsidian
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that is tied to the current day where I can just type
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anything or paste anything so that I can worry
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about it later.
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- The expectation is that everything that goes in there,
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something is gonna be done with it?
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But I don't wanna have, like, it's like a limbo space.
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Here's the way I think about it.
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It's a transient place between my brain
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and my task manager.
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I know that this is gonna be something,
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but I don't know yet to what extent.
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I don't know yet when.
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So I don't have a due date and I don't have yet a project.
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I know I'm gonna do something with it
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and the something may be, I'm gonna look at it
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and I'm gonna ignore it or I'm not gonna like it.
01:02:06
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But like, it's basically an inbox.
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It's basically a daily based inbox where I put stuff
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and eventually I remove stuff.
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So it's just my way of using daily notes.
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I know that other people use them as a journal.
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Some people use them as a log of everything they do.
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The thing is, and I think I mentioned this before,
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everything I do eventually becomes public.
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Like I have a website, I have podcasts, now I have videos.
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So I don't need that type of stuff
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as much as I need a place where I can put temporary things
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or some things I may choose to keep in Obsidian.
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Like for example, last week I was ripping
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PlayStation 2 games and I needed to figure out
01:02:56
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how do I rip PlayStation 2 games on a Mac?
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Because apparently you cannot do it on an iPad.
01:03:01
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So I had to use Sylvia's MacBook Pro.
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And I entered in my daily notes, how do I rip PS2 games?
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That was the sentence that I wrote down.
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Later that evening, I reopened Obsidian,
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I was like, oh yeah, I need to rip the PS2 games.
01:03:17
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I turned that line into a separate note.
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I did some Googling, found the terminal commands,
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pasted them in Obsidian.
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And so that note is gonna live in Obsidian
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as a reference for the future.
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Whenever I get another PS2 game that I need to rip,
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I'm gonna look it up in Obsidian.
01:03:36
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- Okay, you're also using it as a inbox of sorts, right?
01:03:41
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- Yeah, yeah.
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- Little things go in there and the idea is
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you're risk maybe gonna become a task
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or it's gonna become its own project
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which has its own set of notes.
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Okay, that's cool.
01:03:51
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- Yes, yes, yes.
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- Steven, you're up.
01:03:57
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- It's me, your friendly neighborhood podcaster.
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I don't know.
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Focus modes, something I wanna spend some time on.
01:04:06
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This is mostly because David Sparks,
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I don't wanna say berated me,
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but got onto me about my lack of focus modes
01:04:14
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on an upcoming episode of MPU.
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So I want to find ways to turn work off my game.
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Work off more effectively on my phone when I'm not at work.
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I've got a focus mode now that turns off notifications
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from several work apps and disables my work email
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after hours, but I feel like I wanna go further.
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Not really sure what that looks like,
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but it's something that I wanna spend some time on this year.
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Like having my devices, mostly my phone,
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being more different than my phone.
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Different during the work day and not during the work day.
01:04:54
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- I have a podcast to recommend to you
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that likes to talk about their focus modes.
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- Thoroughly considered.
01:05:00
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- Yeah, very thorough, very considered focus modes.
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That's what that show's all about.
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You can go find them out there.
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Focus modes are very powerful,
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but I think it's best not to overdo it.
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That's my personal favorite.
01:05:12
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- Yeah, really it's just taking my home focus mode
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and just beefing it up, I think is more
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what I want because I think I talked about this.
01:05:23
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One idea that floated through my head on my sabbatical
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was like, should I be a person who has a work phone
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and a personal phone?
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And I very quickly decided that was a terrible idea,
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but something there is interesting, so we'll see.
01:05:35
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- It's easier than ever to make those two things
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the same thing.
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One something, I don't know if you're doing this right now.
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I don't know if you just mentioned this.
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I don't think you do.
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If you're changing your home screens.
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- I'm not, that's basically the top bullet point.
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That is a very powerful thing when it comes to focus modes
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is being able to actually change how your phone looks.
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It's also like, not only are you surfacing the apps
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that are most relevant for the thing that you're in,
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I find it as a benefit, like a beneficial thing
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of making me realize that I am supposed to be doing
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different things.
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Of like, if I open my phone and it doesn't look the same
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and what I would recommend to you is,
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have a different widget arrangement
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as well as different apps.
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- Maybe use different lock screens and home screens too.
01:06:22
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- I know a lot about widgets.
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- There you go.
01:06:25
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- Thanks for that.
01:06:26
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- You could have widgets, Smith widgets that are like,
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even indicative of what the focus mode is.
01:06:32
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- Yeah, it's just a text widget and is like,
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you're not at work, dummy.
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- Just a stop.
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- You can have one that says stop and it's red
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and then one that says go and it's green.
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- And for working on that.
01:06:44
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- So we'll see.
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- I have historically like,
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just kind of let those lines blur more than I want
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to have them blurred moving forward.
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For instance, like one thing I did,
01:07:00
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maybe out of the sabbatical beforehand was like,
01:07:03
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turn off notifications in Slack, like in Slack,
01:07:06
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you know, they have their own scheduling thing.
01:07:09
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But I ran into a problem where the guy who works in our CMS,
01:07:12
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our freelance developer,
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he can only work for us during the evenings.
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And I would miss, he'd like, oh, hey, you around?
01:07:19
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Can we do this thing?
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And I didn't see it.
01:07:20
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And so I talked to him, I was like, look,
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we can move into Slack, but after hours,
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like iMessage is going to be the way to get ahold of me.
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'Cause I'm not getting notified from Slack after hours,
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but then we can, you know, you're like, hey, I'm around,
01:07:34
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can we do this thing?
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And then we can move the conversation into Slack.
01:07:37
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And so some of it's like human stuff,
01:07:40
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but the technology can obviously be very helpful.
01:07:42
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So yeah, I'm gonna explore that.
01:07:45
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- Why don't you just tell him to like,
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do the Slack thing, which I like,
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where it can push it through.
01:07:51
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- Well, so I ran into a conflict
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because I also had my focus mode
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disabling Slack notifications.
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And so I need to, like, that's a conflict right now.
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So I don't know.
01:08:02
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- Oh, you don't need it though.
01:08:03
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Like if you're now using Slack's ones,
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then you doesn't need to be in the focus mode.
01:08:07
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- That's why it's a work in progress.
01:08:09
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- Yeah, I'm helping you, I'm helping you.
01:08:11
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- No, I know.
01:08:12
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What I'm trying to do is take work out of iMessage as well.
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Don't put it there.
01:08:17
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- Focus, turn, I'm changing that right now.
01:08:22
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- Yeah, change your layouts,
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like your home screens and your widgets and stuff.
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Like that's really helpful.
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And then kind of like, do you have a mercy adapted.
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Focus modes have gotten so much better over time.
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If you're a done,
01:08:36
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I actually also want to talk about focus modes.
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- I am a done.
01:08:40
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So I obviously want to use my phone less, right?
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Like who doesn't?
01:08:43
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But like, I will want to use my phone differently
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than the way that I currently use it when I have a child.
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Because I, you know, I'm like, you know,
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I'm like a phone gremlin like everyone else,
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but I also don't want to be like that.
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And I don't want to, you know,
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I have imagination to like,
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how would I like my child to use technology?
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And that does not match with how I use technology.
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And so that has to change if I want to give,
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be a good kind of role model, right?
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So really specifically,
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it's about using my phone more intentionally
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and like being intentional with it.
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And I want to use focus modes.
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I use focus modes a lot,
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but I want to create a specific focus mode
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for like at home with baby, right?
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So like, and then with child.
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And so like, I'm thinking about what that might look like.
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And something I found out today
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while I was digging around in focus modes
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that I didn't know is the system
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that reduce interruptions uses can be used
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on any focus mode.
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It's a toggle inside of focus modes.
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I was like, aha, that is good.
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- It is good.
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- So I'm going to try that.
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So like, I'm going to set up a baby focus mode.
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I don't know exactly know what that's going to include yet,
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but I'm going to try the Apple intelligence
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reduce interruptions feature inside of that focus mode.
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Did you know that that was a thing for Erika?
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- Because there's a toggle.
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So inside, because obviously reduce interruptions exists,
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And reduce interruptions in focus modes
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has the same toggle, but you can't turn it off.
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It's called intelligent breakthrough and silencing.
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And this wasn't in focus modes before.
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And this can now be turned on in any focus mode.
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And it says, while this focus is active,
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intelligently allow important notifications to interrupt you
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and silence notifications determined not to be important.
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Any notification specifically allowed or silenced
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will always be allowed or silenced.
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So I'm going to try that.
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- Interesting.
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I've never been like, I use focus modes
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only for the home screen automation changes.
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I've never really particularly cared about notifications.
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- I think I have a really strong sense of self,
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if you couldn't tell after all these years on the show.
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Interruptions on, like I cannot be interrupted.
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Notifications cannot interrupt me.
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Like if I'm doing something and I get something,
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like unless it's like Sylvia texting me,
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help me, my car is on fire.
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Like, I don't care.
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I see notifications come by like, cool.
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I'll get to them later.
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Like I've never, I never had that compulsion to like,
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oh, I've been interrupted, you know?
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Nah, I don't care.
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- Okay. - Yeah.
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- Well, I've created my baby focus.
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- Doesn't do anything yet, but I'll think about that one.
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'Cause I'll create like home screens and stuff like that.
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I have a last item on my list.
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And that is, keep doing the research
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to incorporate more like assistive AI stuff into what I do.
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I hate wasting time on boring, busy work.
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I think everybody can relate to this.
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So whether it's gonna be, like I mentioned the AI in email,
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that's something that I've already started doing.
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I wanna look into this new generation of services
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that transcribe meetings for you
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and give you like a list of actionable items
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at the end of the meeting.
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I know that Jon really likes to use Granola on the Mac.
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- That's funny, I've never heard of it.
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I love that there are so many of these things
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you just never hear of them.
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- Oh, Granola is super good.
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Like since I'm not using a Mac and Granola is not on the iPad
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he's sending me these transcripts put together by Granola
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at the end of a Zoom call.
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They are really, really well done.
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But I would like to find something that is web-based
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or something that is native to the iPad
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so that I can also have something like this.
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I've been playing around with voice-based,
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AI-powered, not taking tools.
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Something that I realized I've been doing lately
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is I like to talk to myself
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when I'm driving.
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- What about?
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- Making a list of things that I gotta do.
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- Yeah, out loud for whatever reason in English.
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Like it's totally, my brain is all kinds of fried
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at this point between languages.
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I did it like a few months ago,
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like without thinking about it.
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And then after 10 minutes that I was talking to myself,
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like I was like, "What am I gonna do?
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And then I realized, am I crazy?
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Or like, is this actually useful?"
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So I started looking into like,
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are there other people on the internet
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sort of doing the same thing?
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And so I found this app called,
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let me give you the name, Super Notes, Super Whisper.
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Super Whisper.
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It's using, I think, the Whisper model for transcriptions.
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But what it's interesting
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is that you can give the app multiple modes.
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In the settings, you can create multiple modes.
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And so for example,
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I created one mode called Note Taking.
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And the prompt, like you can give,
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each mode you can give an instruction prompt.
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This prompt, I said, reformat the following text.
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Structure it for effective note taking
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using a combination of markdown,
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bulleted lists, and numbered lists.
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Ensure that key points ideas or action items
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are clearly highlighted.
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Check for correct grammar and punctuation.
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Do not change the tone.
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Use as much of the original text as possible.
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When you think you heard max stories,
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I actually mean max stories.
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That is my prompt for this note taking mode.
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It's using my OpenAI API key.
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- I love the, you know, the level, I get it,
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but like the level you have to go to, you know,
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it's just like, I want, I just,
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all I want is for it to do it correctly.
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And basically I put this thing on my iPhone when I'm driving.
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Say I'm gonna, you know, pick up Sylvia
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or I'm going to the supermarket or whatever.
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Like I'm driving for 10 minutes.
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I put this on, I start talking,
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and I leave it on for like 10 minutes.
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And then I press done, wait for like 30 seconds.
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It does its thing in the cloud.
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And it gives me back a markdown formatted log
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of the things that I reasoned out loud by myself.
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And I can see it in Obsidian.
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Look, I am fully aware of the fact
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that it sounds ridiculous and I look ridiculous doing it.
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But once again, I don't care.
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There's something to the fact of like thinking out loud.
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Yeah, it's weird, but it kind of works for me.
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So, and lastly, eventually I would like to find something
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that works with Todoist and AI together.
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I tried, Todoist has like an AI mode.
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It seems to me to be pretty useless
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because it's not like actually querying your Todoist.
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It's like suggesting tasks for you.
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And that is like not the thing I want.
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- I couldn't imagine the worst thing.
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- No, no, thank you, no, thank you.
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- Give me more to do.
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- I used to be able to use this external chat GPT integration
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like a custom GPT located at the website todoistgpt.com.
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A few days ago, it stopped working
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and the website doesn't exist anymore.
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So I hope at some point to find,
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like I just want to be able to talk to my task manager
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in retro language and manage my tasks via voice
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or via text with like short or long prompts
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in a way that works.
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So hopefully at some point in 2025,
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either Todoist will do it natively
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or there'll be some other kind of integration.
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Maybe Apple intelligence will let me do it
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with the app intents at some point, who knows?
01:17:24
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But yeah, finding a way to integrate my task manager
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with AI would be nice at some point.
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- Did you see like a sort of today that chat GPT
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is adding tasks?
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- Oh yes, and I have tried them and I have thoughts.
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I tried it with one very simple prompt last night.
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I said, remind me at 11 p.m.
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to review my task manager inbox.
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And sure enough, at 11 p.m. I got a notification saying,
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review your task manager inbox, good.
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Today I was like, okay, now let me see
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what you can do if I give you a more,
01:18:05
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slightly more complex prompt.
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I asked, and I think I still have it here.
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I was like, let's do one of those like common things
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that people do.
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Search for an inspirational quote about art or productivity
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or a mix of the two from real famous creative people.
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Include the full sentence in double quotes,
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followed by the name of the author, the year
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and the source, like the title of a book or an interview,
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et cetera, and send me these every day at 5 p.m.
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Every time this thing tries to run, it says,
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I ran into an error, I cannot complete the task for you.
01:18:43
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So that's the thoughts that I have about chat GPT tasks.
01:18:47
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- It's going great, it's going great.
01:18:48
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- Yeah, yeah.
01:18:49
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- Steven, do you have any more?
01:18:53
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- I'm sure something will come along,
01:18:55
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but those two were the top of mind today.
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For me, when thinking of apps, like Federica mentioned,
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I will be using a baby tracking app,
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and this is to kind of track all of the things
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that babies do and don't do.
01:19:10
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And there's the app that I've found
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and has been recommended to me,
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and the one that I've checked out and I'm gonna use
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is called Mango Baby.
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I kind of look at it and think like,
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this is the time-ery of baby tracking.
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It is made by a single developer.
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It integrates all of the features and the OS features
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that you might expect and would want,
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like widgets and live activities and everything.
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And one of my very favorite things,
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like just thinking about this app conceptually,
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like they have a free mode and they have a pro subscription
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that has more features and the pro subscription
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is a family sharing subscription.
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And it's like, that's good.
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'Cause you don't have to do that.
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Like it would actually, you'd probably make more money
01:19:49
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if you didn't do that because, you know,
01:19:51
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a lot of these apps that you can share everything,
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you can share all the data.
01:19:56
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And I just think that that's really cool that they offer
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like a family sharing purchase for their subscription.
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I just think that's really nice.
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This also goes hand in hand with my beloved iPad mini
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is gonna be repurposed to be in the nursery
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and it's gonna be for a bunch of things
01:20:13
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and it's gonna be focused around parents, right, at first.
01:20:17
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So it will have all of the,
01:20:20
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like a probably a bunch of widgets on it and stuff
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for doing some of this tracking stuff.
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So it's around and easy if we need it.
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But I also figure it could be used for watching videos
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and stuff if we're at late night feeding.
01:20:32
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I got a 12 South hover bar tower as a thing to hold.
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I saw someone I follow online was using like an iPad stand
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next to the nursing chair.
01:20:41
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And I was like, aha, there must be a good one.
01:20:43
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And I found the good one.
01:20:44
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So the 12 South hover bar tower.
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So you can kind of just have the iPad just sitting there
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and you get to sit and watch Netflix at four o'clock
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in the morning when you're trying to get the baby
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to go to sleep.
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White noise machine, all that kind of stuff.
01:20:56
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I figured that would probably be a pretty good use
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of this iPad in its little tiny form.
01:21:01
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So that's the end of my little workflow changes.
01:21:06
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- Okay, that's also the end of this topic.
01:21:10
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Lots of changes, you know.
01:21:13
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- Before we finish today,
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I would like to provide some real time follow up
01:21:17
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provided in the Discord by Spol who said,
01:21:19
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Stephen switched from an iPhone 14 Pro to 14 Pro Max
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mid cycle roughly in March of '23
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as revealed in connected 441.
01:21:28
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So that was pretty recent.
01:21:30
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- Wouldn't you agree?
01:21:32
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Pretty recent?
01:21:33
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- It's hard.
01:21:35
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- Year and a half ago.
01:21:36
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- It's hard to say really.
01:21:40
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- No, it's not, it's really not.
01:21:42
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- I actually already said it.
01:21:44
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So it's been said.
01:21:46
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We had a lot of feedback about Federico's closing
01:21:50
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of the show last week.
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- We loved it Federico.
01:21:53
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- See, I knew it.
01:21:55
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- So do you wanna do it again?
01:21:56
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- You might give yourself a new job, so.
01:21:58
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- I can do it again.
01:22:00
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- Yeah, do it again.
01:22:01
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- Can I do it again now?
01:22:03
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- Well, this has been episode of connected 535.
01:22:07
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It was recorded on Wednesday, January 15th of 2025.
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Keep in mind the date in case, you know,
01:22:13
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you listen to this in the future, you're like,
01:22:15
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what are these folks talking about?
01:22:17
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The United States don't exist anymore.
01:22:19
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Well, now you know why, because today they exist.
01:22:22
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- Because in the pro show, which is amazing,
01:22:24
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we spoke about the Nintendo switch,
01:22:26
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which may or may not have been revealed at this point.
01:22:28
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- No, it will never be revealed.
01:22:29
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- The pro show is one of the many excellent features
01:22:33
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of connected.
01:22:34
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In this case, it's part of connected pro,
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which you can get by signing up
01:22:36
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for a connected pro membership.
01:22:39
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You will be supporting us directly.
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You will also be supporting the relay FM network,
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which is a fine company, if I do say so myself.
01:22:48
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I wanna thank today's sponsors, Squarespace and NetSuite.
01:22:52
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Now there's a whole thing to be said
01:22:54
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about like wrapping up an episode and being like,
01:22:57
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oh, you gotta point people to social media.
01:22:59
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Now we're not doing that anymore.
01:23:01
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In the sense that if you wanna find us, you'll find us.
01:23:04
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Like you're gonna type my name,
01:23:06
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you're gonna type Mike's name or Steven's name
01:23:08
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in a search box, something will come up.
01:23:11
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It may be a fake profile, it may be not.
01:23:14
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So use your best judgment.
01:23:16
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Here's the thing, like I could do a whole long list
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of URLs, I am not, because I don't have the patience
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to do it, so use your best, I believe in you,
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if you wanna find us on social media, whatever it is.
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I write at macstories.net, that's the one link
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I will give you.
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Mike hosts many shows on relay.
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He also does excellent work at Cortex brand,
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and he's going to be a dad soon.
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So keep that in mind when your finger hovers
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over that connected pro membership button.
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I'm just saying, he's gonna have a daughter soon.
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So use your best judgment.
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And Steven writes at 512 pixels,
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co-host of the Mac power users here on relay,
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another excellent show.
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And that's about it.
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Like you can now mark this episode as done,
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or you could wait 15 more seconds for us to say goodbye.
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Say goodbye, guys.
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- Bye y'all.
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- Arrivederci.
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- The only thing I don't like about the Federico outro
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is the order of the goodbyes.
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- You gotta get used to it.
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- Yeah, I guess so.
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- We're doing things different now, so.
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Whole new world.
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