00:00:00 ◼ ► well as the other one year later but the one shown it can be the one I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/0">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► because it sounds like you know the one as in the person your goin to marry this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► watch can't be the one not the matrix no not that one would work so did the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/7">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► you got to watch to be the one is by telling it that it's not the one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/14">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► understood that reference to them we have a tremendous amount of follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/18">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► today everyone look at the time I think we should I think we should start by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/25">TS</a>]
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00:00:36 ◼ ► feedback with regard to our Twitter conversation that happened in the after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/36">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► show in the last show and and i hope i dont sound sarcastic As I am really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/41">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► being genuine we got a ton of really great feedback and even even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/45">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► feedback that I saw that was constructively criticize criticizing US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/50">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► was constructive and and I and i was appreciative of that we had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/55">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► drive-by tweet thanks and tweet love and that was extremely refreshing given that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/60">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► we spoke a lot about drive-by tweet hate so I just want to thank everyone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/66">TS</a>]
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00:01:15 ◼ ► to the other two to say it's very kind of you and we really appreciate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/75">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► we also got a lot of feedback about how many external displays modern max can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/80">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► drive and I don't we got this from several different people but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/89">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► just moments ago we got a pretty good summary John do you wanna go over that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/94">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► think this was the most popular correction from last week everybody just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/98">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► wanted to come in and say that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/102">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► have a MacBook Pro and that they have more than two external displays on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► some people are sending us pictures of their set up some people are confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/108">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► about which MacBook Pro we're talking about it last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/113">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► feedback regret the most recent models but even among those people they sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/116">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► here I but the most recent model and here it is but you no more than two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/120">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► external displays what's up with that and so of course if you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/124">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► MacBook Pro specs page at apple.com for both the 13 inch of a dancer says talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/129">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► about their external display capabilities in a says up to two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► external displays up to two external displays for both of them so what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/138">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► deal here and Nathan Anderson is not the only person to send information but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/142">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► happened to come in late breaking into his reasonable summary that deal as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/147">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► as I can tell based on all the people who sent in both their pictures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► their information is that if you have a 13 inch MacBook Pro you can only do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/154">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► extremist players if you have a fifteen-inch you can do more than two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/161">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► you have the discrete graphics with Nvidia chip and only two if you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/165">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► integrated graphics and there's some strangeness about past models could or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/170">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► couldn't do integrated so it seems like me the apples pages giving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/178">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► conservative answer if you read that and think you can only use to external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► displays you happen to get on with discrete graphics and you can do more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► than to be pleasantly surprised but he'll never be disappointed because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/188">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► upper to external displays is true for all the models and if you can do more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/192">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► and maybe it's not even officially supported according to Apple but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/195">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► work so here we go for all the people who wrote in you know you're not crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/198">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► your particular model may be able to do more than two but it is apparently a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/203">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► variation that Apple does not consider important enough to delineate on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► customer-facing spec page also let me just how amazing this is because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/212">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► only a few years ago when if you want to have more than one extra display so more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/218">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► than two displays total you had to have a Mac Pro and usually with more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/224">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► this is pretty amazing that ever since I believe injection of thunder but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/230">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► think the me too many DisplayPort line could detain them if that's great but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/235">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► it's only very very recent since the era of the new book on the MacBook MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/239">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► and MacBook Pros that you can have more than one extra monitor hooked up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/244">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► that's pretty amazing progress man could definitely have the external monitor we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/248">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► have some people at work who are trying to do like six external monitors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/257">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► they were reaching I'm not sure which limits to reaching basically many of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/261">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► people sit around had reached the limit of what their their machines can do I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/265">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► provide either physically speaking or for a GPU eyes and it is comical to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/270">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► where the limits are a little tiny machine with this huge array of displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/275">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► on his crazy arm that but maybe five or six things and what's what's attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/279">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► that jane rest at a little laptop yeah I mean I think I think the actual limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/284">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► display is there is like sanity desk space / arm capacity in external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/289">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► monitors are are kind of like cats like you know most people should have between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/296">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► 0 and one and you know it's really really easy once you have more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/300">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► to go what's one more I could you know have all the texts refer at my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/305">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► like they're like there's some people like no number of monitors is enough for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/309">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► them and because they haven't adopted a system like yours john we're like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/315">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► have some way to manage lots of windows on whatever space they're given know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/318">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► they need more space and they always need more space and like oh I have 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/322">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► wideout three other men monitors are pretty cheap these days when added two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/327">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► more and let's get a double decker arm now we can have eight and it just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/331">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► enough then all of a sudden F fifteen cats and was like that the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► incarnation of spaces there like I'm 1911 monitor for a text editor that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/338">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► be in portrait but only ever had one document open at once because I used by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/345">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► Andrea launched every time on a data file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► and one monitor open for like my phone went and like the opportunity does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/350">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► exist and if I need to have another window open I need another monitor now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/355">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► because everything is all I know is I kind of I want to rig I would never do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/358">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► it but i wanna rig that's like six monitor still wall of monitors in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/367">TS</a>]
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00:06:14 ◼ ► cursor let me tell you people have that at work you can never find your car show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► you how to turn the giant cursor mode that my mom uses what was the setup that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/377">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► that really nerdy guy in his boy used like a chair that was reclined in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/382">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► two or three monitors pitch down at him or something like that got him to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/388">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► that movie again you will see that that sounds like a back problem and now trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/393">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► me it was like this whole pod thing that the dude hadn t seen Grandma's Boy John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/397">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► you know I'm talking about I do not know which documents although I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/401">TS</a>]
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00:06:49 ◼ ► the internet if similar arrangements of people that are reclining and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► monitors suspended above the knee or the reverse where the money is a blow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/412">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► in their face down on a good economically speaking probably does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/416">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► count as the reference that I made that you didn't get I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/421">TS</a>]
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00:07:18 ◼ ► say so I'm gonna count that as a win and Casey column anyway we should probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/438">TS</a>]
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00:07:31 ◼ ► streaming television boxes in my big complaint aside from the video not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/451">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► playing at all is that TV streaming television stations none of them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/456">TS</a>]
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00:07:46 ◼ ► YouTube web browser which sometimes is weird flaky in html5 player may or may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/466">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► not be playing nicely with your browser but there's a little scrubber thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► can you know little circular hand on the timeline he could move to different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/474">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► positions and the video moves around eventually and any streaming television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/477">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► boxes very frequently attempting to do anything with your position other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/482">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► play at what speed now he doesn't work as a result in a series of spinners are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/486">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► blank screens but can very often lose your place and then your check back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/491">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► the beginning this happens by the way the worst case scenario is this your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► children are on the couch watching a movie there 30 or 40 minutes in one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/498">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► them actually sits on part of the remote potential because they have to get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/502">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► of luck in there was still plenty of the TV it starts to fast-forward or rewind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/507">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► or or do something we do one of those those actions and that throws things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/511">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► into a tizzy and then you try to deposit it play again but maybe the baby is gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► too far forward or back or something and just lose place and now your kid is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/519">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► maybe they want the movie to resume playing where was but you're back at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► beginning of the movie and you can get to where they were even if you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► exact time stamp because hey how would you get there you would have to remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/531">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► the scrubber essentially to that position and you have no way of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► that because password doesn't work it just you know there's no jump is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/538">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► whatever it so this does not identify with me just emphasize that like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/541">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► asking for let me smoothly scan through while seeing the video go by really fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/547">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► like the equivalent of video smart speed like I understand is there something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► transcoding down there is only you can just magically slide forward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/555">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► backward in time while seeing the video flash before your eyes and variable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/561">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► rates of speed when the video is actually being transcode on the fly by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► nasa your basement or something right the minimum I'm asking for is one don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/569">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► lose my place no matter what I do and to give me the ability to in sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/575">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► QuickTime Player parlance are you two pounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► move described her to an arbitrary position and start playing from there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/583">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► don't see anything that happens make this me entirely black in fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/587">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► prefer that I hate it when I can't move the little screw everything both the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/590">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► desktop an honest review box where it says no no no no you can't you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/594">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► move that thing you have to wait for me due to load some are thumbnails our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/598">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► streams of content and transcode things like just stop stop the video entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/602">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► I'm gonna move the scrubber to position it's going to change the time stamp on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/606">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► change the time stamp by all means as I move discover round when I'm done I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/611">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► now try to start playing from thirty minutes and 42 seconds now you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/615">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► resume whatever it is you're doing and and and and people run and tell you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/619">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► you understand but be friends and h264 symbolic I understand that this was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/622">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► difficult but this i think is the minimum bar for any device that plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/628">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► video don't lose my place and give me some way to start an arbitrary location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/632">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► anything above and beyond that you wanna do find do whatever it is you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/636">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► free scan all the movies to find offsets find the closest offset to the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/642">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► that I picked and try to play from there and only show the picture once you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/646">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► into it like whatever you do do it but I just want emphasized that I'm not asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/649">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► for the magic ability to see the video fly past my eyes it fast and slow speeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/653">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► because I understand it's very difficult course that would be nice and I'm hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► that will happen someday but we're very far from that now fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/661">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► right well in how about the Koenigsegg and the odd model name that none of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/667">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► can figure out how you pronounce it yet apparently it's it's like we mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/673">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► it like the ratio 1 partial power to one kilogram or whatever but the name ont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/677">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► colon and numeral one is pronounced 121 it's not 11 although I like 11 better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/682">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► but anyway people want to know if you are considering buying what is 2.4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/687">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► million three million dollar hypercar it's called the 121 not the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/692">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► one that just sounds like going to visit a psychiatrist's office or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/697">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► like that let's have a one to 10 2011 2010 ones at work I don't think we call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/701">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► them that but yes I do have a meeting with check the parking lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/706">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► Marco it's so hard to be retired isn't it but yeah we have meetings with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/710">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► immediate supervisors which we which we call personal development something PDP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/716">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► personnel and planning something like that that's worse that sounds awful know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/721">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► it sufficiently corporate speak which is funny because our company is all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► 70 people or something like that but he yep that's a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/728">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► PowerPC Macs and x86 hardware compatibility 11 percent over the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/733">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► that I thought was funny we're talking about the the rarity of these Macs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► had x86 hardware in them and they were indeed rare and Martin Road in to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/742">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► us about his experience but these things he had a set of the forget which model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/747">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► was but it's the 6100 cases the first to like to use this case you guys look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/752">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► the picture that I like they're in the shower it was the pizza box mac very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/758">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► wide to very low optical drive in the middle floppy drive on the right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/762">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► hard drive on the last and they had a bunch of people who were PC users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/768">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► essentially using these because they sold the very end of this with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/773">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► different model number that had 46 insider maybe with a Pentium anyways I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/777">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► x86 chip inside it and they had a problem when these PC users but use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/783">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► these machines and you if you read this feedback you probably didn't spoil the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/787">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► surprise but if you haven't read the feedback Marco perhaps take a look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/791">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► the picture and tell me the show was rigged to a baby shower together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/795">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► looking at his picture 1 but problem my PC users have with this Mac as soon as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/801">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► saw the picture I didn't actually make it to the to the rest of the feedback to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/805">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► see why the picture was being cited and the moment I saw the picture I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/810">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► exactly where this feedback was going so I know people remember this is this just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/814">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► so long ago the big thing for the Mac platform was that it had auto inject an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/819">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► auto eject floppy drives hardware wise so auto injector meant that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/825">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► push the floppy disk in a certain point the mechanism would like something out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/830">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► of your hand and see it and auto eject means that the ejection was done by but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/834">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► initiated by the drive itself and in the operating system and the ejection be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/841">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► triggered by the wonderfully intuitive to PC users activity of dragging the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/845">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► disc that had all the important files on it to the trash that was a short but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/851">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► can also select additions like the jack from the File menu which was totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► interred anyway yes you would initiate the the unmount essentially from the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/857">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► and unlike PCs were you good eject the disc at any time by pressing a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/863">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► next to the thing and you know the OS might complain if you did that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/868">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► did it when the light was blinking then you may have heard at all sorts of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/872">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► things that relied on the user to sort of know when it's safe to eject the disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/875">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► the Mac operating system goes to control over magic media and and you aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/879">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► involved in the process of ejecting the disc from a hardware perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► software respected you on man to the desk in the active on mounting it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/886">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► rejected because the mechanisms all have the ability two centuries back at you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/890">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► when PC users use this Mac they would see the floppy drive to stick the disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/894">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► in and maybe they didn't notice the auto injector might've been gone by then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/900">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► don't know anyone and they do their thing both right and when they were done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/904">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► with their desk they would do it all PCs years do as I guess look at look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/908">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► drive to see if any blinking lights near it is no blinking lights press the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/912">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► button to eject the disc unfortunately on this pizza box mac the button that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/915">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► was in the lower right corner below the floppy drive was not a disconnect fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/920">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► there is no disconnect but another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/925">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► tiny hole you can see there were you stick a paperclip to get it out when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/926">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► thing freezes it was the power button to the entire machine so everybody when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/930">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► they were done and want to check their floppy disk and press the power button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► machine tournament I machine oh nice which must have been hilarious but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/936">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► in PC users at the time defense which I was one if you look at this machine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/941">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► CD ROM Drive immediately adjacent to this has a physical eject button so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/947">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► looks like two drives side-by-side with each with an eject button if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/952">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► coming from though the paradigm it does make sense although I mean there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► giant power symbol on the paradigm separate separately from the paradigm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/961">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► this is like a consistency design flaw which is that there is an eject button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/965">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► right next to it in in the spot you'd expect and so it looks like here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/970">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► don't hear the whole four disks here the whole floppies here the eject button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/974">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► from here the check button for puppies they're very differently sized ones Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/977">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► said one of the police believe you press the if you press the optical drive but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/982">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► it wouldn't actually inject because they believe the operating system had control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/987">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► over it is this it IT hardware eject button on the optical drives on my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/991">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► Pro two you just have to slide open a little guilty indoors and Chevy little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► finger and you can fuck yeah they also don't work on you know until the USA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/998">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► checked it but still i mean you're saying this is a problem with PC users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► I'm saying this is a very confusing designed for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► well it wasn't wasn't confusing for Mac users it's a parent and things like do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► you think the operating system has control over floppy disks or do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► think in the user has control over it and the right answers to have the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► have control over but if you come from the other thing where would you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► the user has control over and you're looking for a button and you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► whatever but you find and that's the only buttons remotely near there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► that's the one you go ahead and the new gonna be said the right answer is floppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► disks are always awful and we're so clever pass them anything with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► even even thumb drives now I feel like we have the same exact problem we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► haven't gotten rid of it people stick a thumb drive into computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► desktop files back and forth and they just want to yank the thumb drive out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► and if you do that on a Mac and yells at you it says whoa whoa whoa whoa that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► not properly rejected by both lost and above all please log back in Baba blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► but by then it's too late I do like cameras because some of my cameras can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► be unplugged at any time and other cameras have to be unmounted from iPhoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► or whatever before they can be unplugged and I forget I forget which is which he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► and some important programs will automatically eject the camera logically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► after its imported in some won't so that's also another level of confusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► here and the power button on the camera even if you don't unplug the USB cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► what if you just turn on the camera that will also and effectively unmounted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► fun anyway removable media is confusing and then the final piece of follow-up we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► have is a important service announcement for listeners of the show and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► John that you are best equipped to handle this I feel kind of bad talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► about this how many episodes every in over a hundred right hundred and twelve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► so someone who endured a tax ATX and our feedback form as their name says that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► may listen to the show and he's using the iOS podcast app on iPhone 6 and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► says he'll ATP and only ATP to the podcast and jumped around wildly within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► the episode first few times I thought it was because one edition had finished and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► it jumped in the middle of the one before that I hadn't finished but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► the bombshell I'm certain that I heard the outro and then again discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► about jobs versus cook and then about this leads me to suspect that there some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► evil commercial break a chapter food for thought their podcast up was buggy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► this is a reasonable conclusion right if you are new especially if you're new to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► the shower and I think we talked about this on Twitter and a bunch of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► replied so I'll spoil the secret is not really a secret the format of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► is we talk about technology stuff we have a bunch a sponsor breaks then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► song by Jonathan man plays where he reads out our Twitter handles and tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► you where you can find the show notes and says now the show is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► right now the show is over didn't even mean to be in you know hope though and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► after that song is over the show continues often for a substantial period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► of time that's what we call the after show and like it did in shots here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► the secret menu at in-n-out knowing which by the way I've never been to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► would like to try but have never been really never been in California but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► haven't been to one of my life there anyway it's not really a secret menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► everybody knows about it but if you really really don't know about it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► not going to occur to you that it exists so if you really really don't know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► the after show when the song says now the show is over you know you turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► thing off or go to the next podcast right you never know that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► anything after it I think actually that's ok if you want to stop listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► to the show there whether accidentally or on purpose I think that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► because the way to structure the show is we try to talk about all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► we're going to talk about before the song and then after the song we feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► like we are free to talk about whatever we want well thats cars something silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► that we did but sometimes it's also reflecting on the show we just had and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► talking about the same targets from a different angle maybe in a more casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► way that's the after show and i was just an upgrade of its agents known we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► talking about the format of the show what distinguishes the after show from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► the rest of the show isn't it just more of the same sometimes it seems like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► but from our perspective is like we feel like the show is over and now we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► talking about I don't know like even if we didn't record it will probably have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► to that same the conversation after the show but we do recorded and there's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► stuff that happens after the the song that we don't put in the show right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► there is some distinction between the after show and then like the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► stuff that's just what libelous anyway if you have to listen to the show her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► how many episodes and had no idea that after the song we kept talking we do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► you can feel free to listen to it if you want or not like whatever you can listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► however you want but what I was surprised by Twitter with many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► said they had to show for like 20 episodes before they realize the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► continued after the song and that blows my mind if only because like the lazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► thing to do is just like just let it keep playing like let's play our next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► pit stop in manually delete the podcast or something like you just let it play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► the song will end and we will continue talking so anybody can do it again today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► we've been doing it since the advent of the song I think there is the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► there's the song and there is the after show and that is the podcast that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► if you didn't know that your mind is now open and will end and we also I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► exacerbate this problem not only by never actually saying you know we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► you in the after show he not not by pronouncing it but also one common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► complaint that we get especially from other listeners the show that live in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► house are you at the there's no like sound or anything to indicate when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► actual actress Joanna like when the actual episode file ends there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► like closing sound or goodbye so it's very it's very easy to miss the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► one episode transitioning into the beginning of the next one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► yeah yeah that's true that is also true I don't particularly find that to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► bad thing but I understand people not being confused by that I guess what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► can use the visual marker looking for playback app like the little plaid get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► to the end and there are audio markers from we start talking about cars and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► an audio marker for when he mentioned HFS plus the secret menu in and out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► is very similar like you learn these things and I just listened to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► shows are being in the community people listen to a lot of shows that it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► just accepted that the format of the show but if you don't know the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► you can still go there and order a burger and it s fine like stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► listening whenever you feel like you wanna stop listening but if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► unaware that we keep talking we do is we can show you know there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► interesting pieces here to me anyway the first is for the three of you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► listen to the show that also look at the show nodes we clearly delineate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► there is a post-show section that has usually links and bullet bullet items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► that are in no way related to anything that we have said thus far in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► episode in so maybe this is a lesson to everyone that you should consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► that market and I work on every single week mostly you where can you find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► show notes casey you can find the show notes for your ATP program at ATP . FM / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► episode number which in this case will be 112 so thats ATP . FM / 112 you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► supposed to sing the line from the song it's so informative I can't sing but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► can find the show notes that ATP . FM that's right it's really are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► you literally can find them there I believe you can have some six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► from now I believe you can find them that's all that's there like that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► only thing on the same series of shows but numbers in China that tomorrow if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► you're in if you're listening to some overcast you can swipe up on the album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► are we know that people don't know that's not also my fault yes I i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► blink the scroll indicator the way as system standard is like when the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► shows up but no one knows that and it's really hard to make it really easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► miss so yet that that is a bad design on my part that I have yet to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► how to resolve in a way that I don't heat but once you know that it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► like the at the show if you're using overcast you're looking at the Now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► Playing screen that shows the big level meters in the Big John album art just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► put your finger on that album art and slide upwards 10 you will see the shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► and then the other interesting thing to me that I find a little bit surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► this is kind of building up what you were saying john is we start the after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► show the polls show immediately after the song ends this isn't like in 1997 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► secret song at the end of the CD I have like a 30 minute track 25 minutes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► witches or 20 minutes of silence and then all of a sudden you have this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► song twenty minutes after you thought the CD was over like it to meeting its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► so I agree with you that that it's a little kooky to me that people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► think of the songs over well better go change my podcast in not just let it run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► its course but you know they stop it because they don't hear this time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► just seems the song starts like well as a top rate is a reasonable assumption so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► anyway I tax your podcast player is almost certainly not broken but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► just the way we structure the show why we do it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► I'm not entirely sure but it is what we do and this is the show let's talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► our first budget this week is igloo igloo is an internet you will actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► like igloo software dot com slash ATP now corporate internets are usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► really miserable things a clue is the internet really done right it is done by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► people who who are familiar with the modern web and who respect innovations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► from the modern web things like you know counters microblogs file-sharing task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► management things like Twitter things like quickies all this and it brings all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► this to the corporate internet space and so you can actually have like modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► functionality and also really good design and of course you know actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► functionality on on mobile devices all this stuff it brings all this to an area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► that usually is pretty short of his features let's be honest so with a glue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► you can share news organize your files coordinate counters and manage projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► all in one place it really combined the best of all these consumer web apps it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► with productivity apps and with the needs of the enterprise all double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► privately and securely for your company or small group you're a clue interest is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► highly functional stylish and easy to use with a widget based drag-and-drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► interface to change it up or customized are setting up the way you like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► an upgrade recently called Viking it basically it revamped how you interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► with documents how you gather feedback and you make changes you can track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► changes you can track who has read documents you can you can require people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► to agree to that they read certain documents for certain legal RHR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► compliance reasons read receipts an email but less annoying this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► important for certain policies of the legal reasons and everything and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► this is built on their very advanced platform all with modern responsive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► html5 and that's why it worked on mobile devices so whatever customizations you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► make they work on the mobile view it's fully responsive and they've crammed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► much into html5 you don't need some like you know Flash or Java whatever if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► only preview and office document for example they built their previewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► engine alt html5 so that that will work on a device no matter what you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► if even if there's no flash because you're a good person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► evening doesn't have flash it'll still work even if you're on an iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► Android device even a blackberry it even works fully fully functionally on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► blackberrys they really are committed to making sure it works on every device and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► the end when new devices at the market with his new screen size or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► igloo already works on them so if your company has a legacy internet that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► like it was built in the nineties you should really give a clue a try and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► free to use for as long as you want for groups of 10 or fewer people and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► larger groups it is very reasonably priced check it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► igloo software dot com slash ATP thanks let a little rain so we are recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► this on Wednesday April 8th and this morning at about eight o'clock in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► one true time zone the watch embargo was lifted so we had a lot of reading to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► and I'm assuming Marco that you read none of it I actually read most of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► I read all the ones I found so far I really enjoyed the one at the verge by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► Nilay Patel even though he hates me because he really gave his and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► Joanna stern's a wall street journal of those at the former to favorites because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► they really gave a lot of like Hannah like the everyday usage like what like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► what what really are the pros and the cons to the everyday usage of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► things and is also both of them really good videos I'm very good pictures so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► I was very impressed by these and I what do you guys think of what you've seen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► far like this make you is at roughly what you expected to make you more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► less excited about the watch is one thing I noticed was that none of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► really said oh my god this is amazing it's a blockbuster yeah yeah almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► of them were like yet it's pretty good at a certain things pretty well certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► things aren't so great it's definitely a virgin 10 what do you think you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► read a handful of them I did not rejoin us turns I did read anyway Patel's and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► agree with you Marco that I thought that was excellent I like the way I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► way that he had raised it or converted from the perspective here's what I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► throughout the day it also really made me feel gross that I kinda like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► scroll hijacking frames of video as I know I should hate that but I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► kinda liked it so I had that so much and that's that's the one thing like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► ranting about this to you privately earlier but it oh my god modern web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► design drives me crazy because it used to be back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► back in the day of five years ago not that long ago it used to be the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► distracting thing as a web page that would make it difficult to read articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► were ads all over the sides and top now the most distracting thing about web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► pages is the content because it's jammed with all this crazy designs girl jacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► stuff in a meeting in when you scroll and flying in and everything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► horrendous I like oh my god it is so hard for me to read a modern music's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► over design web pages like it's like these companies have way way way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► much money and resources devoted to over producing these articles when and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► the reality is like if you would have put UEFA tells article into John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► Gruber's layout it would have been just as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► like it it gain nothing from having this giant like overwrought scroll jacki [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► we're loading distracting animated garbage all all in and out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► throughout it and and it wasn't just him and I saw the other one I someone in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► Bloomberg was pretty good but just a policy that will also had not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► egregious but similar over designed issues I don't know why this isn't style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► right now but I don't remember I was trying to remember the terms of this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► they were but they called splashed things are entryways our gateways I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► mercifully forgotten this term when you made a site you had to have a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► that you had to go through to get to the site first the splash page designers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► wanted to show off and they wanted to they wanted to establish their brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► they were they were accustomed to them are linear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► kind of sort of linear storytelling thing where you have a title sequence in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► the front of your thing or you have a cover page for a magazine or book or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► title page her amazing story and they said before anyone gets to my whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► want to show them are awesome logo and maybe you'll be animated movie sparkly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► stars around on the click-through logo to get through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► landing page portal page of people saying I'm almost don't want to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► this because there was an epidemic in there was there was a lot of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► are railing against this album is one of them to say this is not how you designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► the Bristol people can come to your condom anywhere second of all just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► to the content and that trend went away people say you can't do that cuz it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► makes no sense people don't go through there if you try to read them to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► get right to the content right and we had some of the middle period where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► things come down and now marcus said people are able to incorporate all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► instincts to to show off their brand to make things that are visually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► stimulating to highlight the technical child to make a sort of movies to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► but an article instead of more of a movie or a slideshow with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► transitions between paragraphs and screens and one picture fades into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► next in the background of the animated showing a clip from the relevant to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► thing the Texas talking about next to it it's the resurgence of those those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► landing pages or splash pages only integrated into the article and I are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► gonna go one further and say I I have a theory about why this bothers me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► specifically and it's not just the stuff that's on the verge as a reporter going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► off on the watch thing but i wanna talk about this much attention I'm even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► annoyed by web pages where when I scroll the webpage the you know basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► position fixed and CSS anything on the page doesn't like what's the big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► that what about just like a top menu bar like a top navigation bar that stays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► there when you scroll writer or footer that I'm even annoyed by that because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► breaks my heart breaks the mental model my mental model of the scrollbar because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► the scrollbars on the entire webpage content region and get some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► within that region don't scroll the scrollbars not embedded and that its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► roll bars ER and even on their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► doesn't really make it better if you put like an iframe in the page for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► article content as you go by there I conceptualize a web page and this is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► know an old fashioned notion or whatever but especially when the whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► texts as a scrollable region and when I move the scrollbar the entire region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► moves as a piece as if it was yes a printed page as I was not a print paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► to web is not printing shouldn't expect if I don't expect you to be like printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► all the way that you know people mean when they said I like I want to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► to change the font size on the ultimate the window bigger and had the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► change size and when I have you not responsive design of the images and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► is over whenever reading along from article how everything is rendered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► didn't hear anything like it would be a paper once I start scrolling it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► scrolling model is I move scrollbar content moves right and anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► doesn't move is a violation of that model it's not so bad and you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► header or footer but these models like all the scrollbar does like dragons let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► us grow by just triggers the next animation sequence right you move the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► scrollbar certain amount of nothing happens like driving you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► underpowered car you push the gas pedal nothing happens right and then all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► sudden the giant image that was entirely in the background that wasn't moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► slides up and a new one comes in and maybe to text moves but then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► background doesn't fit into certain point the background does move in a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► background comes in like 10 texts a doubt it moves up it's like the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► there is part the screen until you can see more texts and a bunch of crap going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► on behind the scenes that you have no idea has any relation to how you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► doing is like just make more now me Apple those itself on their web pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► return to scroll and like these Mac Pro animations are going to just wanna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► down the Tech Specs sections you not sure be at the click the dot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► scrollbar nothing's happening oh wait now transitioning this this breaks my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► model of the web pages looks a bit maybe I'm an old fogey but I feel like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► seen enough people interact with those pages they're not sure what to do either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► and it's like oh well I guess I did something in new taxes here maybe I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► read it it looks cool it's interesting Apple does it in a tasteful manner but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► just wanna grow and i just want to see the page move you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► even Apple's product pages though like it like when the Mac Pro came out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► that was like one of the first ones that really irritated me that those sections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► have to scroll between and then wait for the scroll to logically catch up from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► the JavaScript and everything that's cool jacked everything unloaded it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► makes it impossible to like if you like it command up to find something in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► looking for then everything would break in after reloading his people just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► their brands themselves i mean if these companies that that do this I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► know it's one thing for a product of the Apple that's you know they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► different motivations I guess that's not good but for a content company like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► verge or Bloomberg or any of these like big magazines if he spent half of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► money and resources they spent on those over designs on actually paying writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► and hiring more writers I think they would see a bigger return and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► constant we better it just seems like a tremendous waste of money to to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► things that ultimately annoy your readers and I like I guess you can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► at it and say well that kind of looks cool yeah but if you actually try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► read the articles it's miserable it's full of problems and what we had before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► worked great there was no reason to change it you know you get with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► times she's the fun maybe you know to meet the little bit that's fine you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► keep it fresh and interesting without making it unreadable you know I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► with everything you guys said but I got it so I actually did kinda like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► first so that's why they do it because it does look cool and it is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► I think you can incorporate I I can imagine you know it without breaking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► scrolling paradigm I can imagine a predawn flashy thing for this video go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► and then when you know even allow you to start playing video when I scroll to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► region gotta do something interesting right like I'm not even opposed to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► entirely if it makes for a cool app because people do find it interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► like it keeps your attention like you know like a jingling he's afraid of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► toddler who you know just like succeeding in front of a TV like things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► are moving things a colorful things are flashy right people actually read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► article to me that's why the top of the article edit video review which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► you know most people just watch that and feel like they're done but it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► like it does a disservice to the paradigm of the web when you break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► scrolling in that way not because scrolling it's a good ranking but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► simply because it's you you're inducing a custom one off mismatch between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► user's mental model of how scrollbar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► works and how your thing works and your thing is gonna be different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► Bloomberg thing is gonna be different than everybody else's thing and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► just it's that's that's not good UI design aside from all the other stuff of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► being is a good brand name is good for traffic dude you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► a/b test these things and more people click when we had this crazy scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► thing like I believe it is possible to do something that still annoys Marco but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► that is still good you I that's all I don't you'll never not you know do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► something flashy that annoys market but do it in a way that doesn't break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► people's knowledge about how like a scrolling region works in a page of web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► page or anything like that it's a breaking the back button you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► like it breaks the way people interact with the web or have you tried to move a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► window you grab the title bar between don't try to move no people do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► anymore because they don't understand the windows move but if you did actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► trying to move a window and instead of the window moving like it didn't move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► and then all of a sudden it did move when you got halfway across the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► like you know like you did that you know the things to the next level the windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► 8 thing where snaps to fill the screen or whatever like it just didn't movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► Black wait I clicked and I started dragging and we know now it's moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► wait no that's what it's like throwing these things like we thought scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► would make the content move but now wait no it is moving those that are spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► out know the background is changing terrible don't do it let me ask you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► let me start with Marco when the 125 K iMac came out I remember vividly and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► was just looking for and I can't find it anymore date they had a picture of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► a guy in like a nature scene and it was hyper zoomed in on the guy and as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► scrolled it's doomed out indicate how big a five k images do you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► keno and then I did they put on the web there was I'm almost positive it was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► the web I think I recalled ok so let me start with Marco and then johnnie your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► two cents did you like that as well or do you also find that to be distasteful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► to a certain point Marco you're not showing your not showing text you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► where to go a certain point what you're doing you have an interactive and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► the little interactive movie right and there's a lot you get a lot of leeway if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► it's like a marketing sliding to trying to demonstrate a feature but if i if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► find myself trying to read many many paragraphs of text that are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► just a series of paragraphs attacks from top to bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► especially something like that like the verge Apple watcher of you like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► a marketing site with two tiny paragraphs of marketing text with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► bunch of you know that's like infographics little animations the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► machine spinning and exploding like I give a lot of we wait leeway for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► type of thing but for specifically long form text articles you have to you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► to serve that need first before and you have a lot less leeway I think 22 people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► are less comfortable the idea that this is a web page anymore now it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► like an interactive advertisement would UD / whatever thing labor sure you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► so real-time follow up a few people in the chat I think starting with Moyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► have found the page that I was talking about it is like a hiker explorer guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► with his arms in the air and as you scroll down the image zooms away out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► you see just how big the five k display is and I i completely agree with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► you guys are saying like I understand what you saying I think you're right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► there are times and this is an example and I i dont know I really thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► the frame by frame video on the on the verge article I just think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► really well done an interesting and I and i i enjoy it and I know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► conceptually in my head that I probably shouldn't like these things but I kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► like you know you should that's why they put in there because they're visually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► attractive but I like the iMac site because the whole plan that side as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► gonna look at like beauty shots of this thing and they're emphasizing one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► particular part of a new zoom is cool and it does emphasize the right now part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► because I mean it's a great example of like how do you how do you show people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► the Retina screen when they're probably viewing it on the screen is not written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► it's like trying to show them some 13 television but they're watching an eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► to DTV like and this is a clever solution we're gonna show it to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► zoomed it like one x pixels on your screen but then show you how much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► there actually is in a dramatic way and this page is mostly pictures and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► tax I think there's a little bit of a hit in the middle of the SME section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► because the image stop scrolling the text keeps drawing but then the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► catches up again and it's a little bit cranky but overall this like less than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► thousand words or text them as they will probably less than 500 words of Texas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► state line 44 the verge thing that's thousands upon thousands of words of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► text and impairs the readability of that text in the comfort of reading that text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► and I i get home I'm afraid that I miss a paragraph did one of the animations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► scroll something away I missed an entire section that in realize it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► have no connection between my action with you the page up and page down key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► or the scrollbar this girl rely on my finger swiping or whatever and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► happening on the screen very easy to actually do stuff they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► time and place for everything and you're not wrong to enjoy the cool animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► effects are not wrong to enjoy the video I thought the video was pretty well done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► as well but it does not serve the needs of the text very well yeah I agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► that and I should point out this for 25 k I'm excited that you're saying is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► the first time I've loaded it it didn't load properly and I like it mostly lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► after installing and it popped in and broke and and the thing in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► it catches and girls again that broke and these are assuming this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► like the like the Facebook designer problem we're like all these these new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► facebook apps are so often designed to assume that all your friends are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► beautiful models with three photography that are going on vacation in California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► and lake with its assuming that it's all gonna load immediately and and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2694">TS</a>]
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00:46:21 ◼ ► these animations to have to click through them what do I have to do now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/2781">TS</a>]
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00:52:52 ◼ ► outline of the actual screen inside that nice big flat black top and it does kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► of ruined the illusion of his being like one seamless thing and I look at things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3177">TS</a>]
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00:53:17 ◼ ► kidnaps you can see that there's like some inherent lag in this process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► like kind of throwing the interface from the phone to the watch over Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3201">TS</a>]
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00:53:29 ◼ ► and so it seems like there's there's a theme of this is a really cool device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► with some really cool features however it's a little bit slow sometimes watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► caps a little bit slow and there's a couple of looking a little niggling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► points like you know like that late the visible air gap on the display so I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3222">TS</a>]
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00:54:22 ◼ ► months late I'm rely on average number of these when it was shown to the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► last fall it sure looked at the hardware is pretty much done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3265">TS</a>]
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00:54:40 ◼ ► like the hardware is fine the software needed more time right not not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► surprise so I kind of think that we might be seeing like jet like half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► generation older hardware if if they were going to ship this hardware last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► originally then what's good what's good what's the harbour gonna be like next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3294">TS</a>]
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00:55:28 ◼ ► hoping that I could really solidify my plans for what to do because I've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► on the show in and on analog about well maybe I'll get one but maybe I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3334">TS</a>]
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00:55:49 ◼ ► been hemming and hawing between one because God that $1,100 one looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3349">TS</a>]
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00:56:00 ◼ ► screen looks so good inside but I don't flip flopping back and forth back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► forth in the one thing that I think I've concluded based on all these reviews is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3364">TS</a>]
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00:56:12 ◼ ► get a sport because it sounds like I'm gonna want to replace the same here just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► John yeah I think for both of you are buying and buying when I magnin a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► these early reviews are pushing it pushing them to the sport of saying I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► had all sorts of plans about which one is going to get it was picking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► choosing with matching things when I read these reviews protect people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► read 5 reviews of the watch all of them were thinking yeah maybe ok with sport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► and you know if you still want Monica seems like it's cool but it's so clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► that you're only going to want it for a little while a couple things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► water use first is that you choose knowing a lot of people who have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► interactions with the watch it was nice to see that there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3414">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► unsurprisingly reviews if you know people who have gone to the press events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► whose touch the watches who are you know have experience with everything that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► in the reviews everything like sort of objective not like how does this fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► into my life I like how does the device reform and what features does it have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► like we knew that already I think part of that has to do with Apple's big press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► push and the sort of long slow-motion rollout where they just released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► information and you going to the store is a mess with them you can do it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► it was different then boy known as ever touch one of these things for now gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► read about it and learn about all these stories were all kind of on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► page in all things that we kind of knew already so it's good to see the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► aspect that maybe people who aren't in as close touch with people who play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► the watches have been surprised about the market is mention that there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► slower than people expected and didn't even see a lot of that even the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► hands on because it wasn't quite as hands-on as you would expect but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3475">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► fact that it feels sluggish i think is catching people little bit by surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► for a couple reasons first that the first iPhone despite like if you go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► and look at it now actually being more sluggish than say an iPhone 6 it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► feel sluggish because they had removed everything from that the original iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► except for like the bare minimum like the entire phone was concentrating as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► hard as I could on doing whatever it is that you establish your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► hardcore it was you know it was like the old Mac menu or yell down then hold down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► the button to pull down menu from the menu bar the entire machines Tisdale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► began really responsive animation when you're scrambling through the menu and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► it was necessary 128 came back just carried over for way too long because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► you can get its act together but that whole idea of like version one of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► interactivity above all stopped everything else is going on the machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► just this one thing and then went to watch because the screen is so small and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► peace is a very someone like there is an expectation I think they would do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► same thing that because it's pushing so few pixels and because the watch does so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► that'll surely there won't be anything can happen to watch that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► sluggish I mean why would it but kind of like the you know the iPhone sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► pushed back to level a distraction by have incredibly weak hardware the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► hardware in in the watch is pretty darn we can mean people talk about what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► s1 might be best on which a series chipset might be based on regardless of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► which one is based on it surely under clocked right compared to what it was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► whatever the top and iPad iPhone that had the same CPU architecture that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► a relatively weak CPU and GPU in there and unlike the original iPhone the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► has to do all sorts of stuff and that brings me to the second sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► realization after reading all these reviews is that I don't think things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► going to get all that much better for the worst case scenarios of performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► and people talked about I launched a watch kidnap and I just saw spinner for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► a long time are lots of waiting screens and and a lot of the video reviews you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► get to see the various waiting screens of the various out one shows an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:59 ◼ ► animation of different modes of transportation when she was a little dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3599">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► spinner when she was just a black screen sometimes this thing doesn't launch at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► all that's an architectural thing we're watching it apps are really iPhone apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► that are sort of projecting their their interface onto the phone interacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► back and forth across a wireless connection and there's nothing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► really do with either the phone hardware or the watch hardware make them both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► infinitely fast make them both have huge amounts of RAM make them have incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► powerful CPUs and GPUs if you're trying to do some of the remote control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► interface you know you're gonna be constrained by opening and closing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► communicating over Bluetooth having interference problems caused your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► is in your pocket in your pocket align with 10 for like whatever it is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► can't do that that's like an architectural thing that version 2 of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► the phone is not going to fix that what's going to fix that is native phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► app then what's going to make it a phone apps more feasible is going to be faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► harder and more RAM so on and so forth that the problem will fix itself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► this particular model of doing third-party applications by having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► projected from the phone onto the watch not literally as a display poster for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► anything but like that whole model of two devices cooperating to to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► the UI together that puts kind of a ceiling on how nicely interactive this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► is and then to add insult to injury even on the native apps it seems like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► video sometimes a little study with an animation there with the swipe or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► something like that and i dont that can be solved by hardware and software that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► could help I can be resolved by a revision to iOS to to make things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► smoother in the same way that they really hammered on some of the scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► table using the original versions of what was then called iPhone OS for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► iPhone so I think not only is the version one product definitely kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► compromise but like well I guess I was a compromise in in more ways in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► ways the iPhone the iPhone original iPhone was compromised but had no third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► party apps no multitasking know nothing right and so that was their compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► we're going to make the things that we have really responsive in the cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► you lose you lose all this functionality to compromise for the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► necessarily because of the way it's done and because the way it interacts with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► the iPhone is we can't sacrifice features interactivity we have to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► apps because it's just like a new week we created the App Store age and I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► living in it and things got out to be a big problem so you gotta have apps we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► gotta have them in some way if we can't do native apps right away do this we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► type thing we've got to have wireless communication and things going on in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► background because how do you know you tapping on the watch and we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► telethon the phone to launch maybe that's not even launching the app we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► have to launch a thing load that code have that code projectors display back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► here and while that's not like that's the that is their baseline functionality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► and involves a lot more things going on at the same time the original iPhone did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► so it's a different set of compromises and I don't think that sluggishness is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► gonna get better until they change and a tornado watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► apps call me to watch it at the end of watch out to get here until those get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► here and those aren't going to really be great in till the hard ones offers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3776">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► advice so I would say wait two or three regions is expected next version to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► the same physical form factor just maybe with a better CPU and a couple of weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► and software tweaks in the third one and that's what you get into something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► works like they thought the first was good but it's not slamming it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► that's the true of all of these products right like I don't think anyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► shocked by this is when you say that people think you're telling them not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► buy an Apple watch but like you know that that was true of the first MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► Air and or the first I reckon first retina MacBook Pro for strain iMac like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► the tech world as a first gen product that the things people are citing as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► issues or shortcomings are not significantly worse than other first gen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► shortcomings other product lines like it doesn't seem like there's like one fatal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► flaw here or you know one like a really big problem it just seems like yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► know kind of slow sometimes certain things are that smooth yet you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► some of the victims in software as a software matures some of it will just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► hardware limitation they'll have to buy a new watch for and yeah I guess we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► see I agree to like that the whole designer watched it being this Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► projection turning the phone back and forth like that is so fragile and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► inherent latency and weirdness there that we really do have to wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► native watch absurd and it's it's it's worth asking like let's let's suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► watched it absolutely don't work very well in reality it seems from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► reviews that might be the case that you know they might just like one of them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► think it was until I was really just an excuse how slow they recently you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► your phone in your pocket and do it on their faster than you could do i watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► assume let's assume the watch Cavs in reality our little bit iffy or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► not quite worthwhile do you think you know people are going to judge the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3894">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► watched it and and if any any flaw or shortcomings get apps have will reflect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► badly on the watch on people's perceptions of the watch as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► do you think releasing watched it the way they did now is better overall than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► if they hadn't released at all just said no third party apps yet have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► notifications which is probably better to do what they did because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► there is a chance that people will get the watch it all with third party apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► enough to let them know that I as useful as I thought they were going to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► they may still end up with a product whose functionality they're happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► like I'm not entirely sure that the watch loses any value by not being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► to have a giant world applications like I think the core functionality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► telling time doing the fitness tracking providing a small window into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► notifications tapping you you know like that core set of functionality may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► enough to to make this product worth its value because it is it's a novelty so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► they'll be something into that and to let people know do do I want to wear a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► smart much is there a place for us who are smart watch in my life I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► the answer to that question hinges on the performance of or even the existence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► of third-party apps it will be nice if they worked and maybe they'll be one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► two third party apps that work and I think it's important to them do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► because for the one or two things where they like I mostly don't use their party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► out but I I do use you know overcast when I go running and I do this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► like one or two that work well enough that they're willing to deal with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► compromises having them there adds value the fact that a bunch of their apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► flaky or he would be there soon your phone people just right and they'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► move on and I think this product lives or dies by the functionality that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► Apple's providing in terms of is it a thing that people are going to want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► do and it will be a pleasant surprise and it will open up new worlds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► watchman three years from now third party apps are really a thing and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► interesting stuff and have access to like you know the speaker and the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► that's on the third model and the third generation models of the stuff like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► world will blossom but right now out of the gate I think just the core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► functionalities enough to to set this watch on its way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► yeah I mean I I think the the built-in functionality from day one and and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► one of us might even be like too much stuff it does seem a number of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► reviews mention this including me like it does seem that there's a there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► almost a lack of focus and maybe that's a good thing you know maybe this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4064">TS</a>]
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01:13:32 ◼ ► sort of epiphany tomorrow that come Friday morning whenever it is I wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4412">TS</a>]
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01:14:02 ◼ ► what to make of it in one of the things I wanted to discuss was a few of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/4442">TS</a>]
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01:36:10 ◼ ► says much about the future of this product line as a as a thing inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/5770">TS</a>]
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01:42:19 ◼ ► for spending that much money on version one so and also you gotta figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6139">TS</a>]
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01:42:41 ◼ ► scratch the heck out of one of those things with a metal watch at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► clicks and is very annoying if you're in a wrister armond on a hard surface a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6164">TS</a>]
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01:43:01 ◼ ► the sport band has a metal pin on the bottom that will hit whatever service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6181">TS</a>]
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01:43:15 ◼ ► worries with the floor that her band is 20 anys have never ever there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► against my skin that I think that would be a problem and for me having all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6200">TS</a>]
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01:45:07 ◼ ► gonna want to wear this thing as a fashion item versus not want to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6307">TS</a>]
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01:45:25 ◼ ► the water body itself even though it would be lighter but I think the maximum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► comfort option for people who are very concerned about comfort the maximum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6330">TS</a>]
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01:47:22 ◼ ► know the next versions are going to be better I don't wanna think it's like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► actually worth it I didn't really like him to watch like oh this is really now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6446">TS</a>]
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01:47:43 ◼ ► I should wait till version to version 3 hell I waited for the iPhone 6 to get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► iPhone I probably would still be getting iPod Touch like I did I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6467">TS</a>]
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01:48:27 ◼ ► which I pay a thousand bucks one of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6507">TS</a>]
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01:48:39 ◼ ► justify spending $1000 even though I really hate to look at this bar models I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► don't like the sort of nine shiny aluminum I don't like the florists and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6524">TS</a>]
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01:48:56 ◼ ► don't really like the sport band I have risked shaping hair concerns like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6536">TS</a>]
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01:49:29 ◼ ► getting one of these although I would definitely play with one for a week so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6569">TS</a>]
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01:49:52 ◼ ► was the one that has a little piece of a little piece of sculpture 2011 arrest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6592">TS</a>]
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01:50:05 ◼ ► getting the 42 millimeters stainless steel with the black leather I said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6605">TS</a>]
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01:50:24 ◼ ► getting the 42 millimeters space grey sport and I haven't even seen his watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6624">TS</a>]
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01:51:01 ◼ ► general the concept but not that excited about version one and she she knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6661">TS</a>]
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01:51:13 ◼ ► is she she's going to wait she does she really actually doesn't want version one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6673">TS</a>]
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01:51:22 ◼ ► wear a watch it all cuz she also right now it doesn't we are watching us family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6682">TS</a>]
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01:51:34 ◼ ► maybe once we see them things will be different but right now she is saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► wait for version two version 3 though because like you imagine if we do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► agree that version to have the same cases this no you don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► iPad 2 did everything is that had won the iPhone to do the same as the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRNSWbA/6707">TS</a>]
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