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00:37:04   statement he's been out every the actual article and telegraph it says the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:09   is designed to be able to replace car keys and the clumsy large files that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:13   now used by many vehicles come up cook told The Telegraph so it's not a quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:16   there's no quotation marks there I'm just relying on their summary but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:20   the hell does that mean to be designed to replace car keys and so like what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:26   had maybe I can imagine Tim Cook ever saying that like it's just terrible I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:32   get that type of thing that you respect the CEO of a company CEO doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35   actually know what their products are due to say not something that Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:38   17 again this is not quote this is just a summary of any way your clarification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:43   about the the pervasiveness of the Internet connections for for dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:48   with car stuff that's probably what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:51   yeah it has to be that's gonna prob in a way you know the read on it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:56   it's almost like Tim Cook is why I mention that at all you know me well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2276">TS</a>]

00:38:00   won't mention anything having to do with designed to replace your car is same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:04   kind of thing of like you know is that I used to control my AppleTV well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:08   that's a product at least but why mention it oh by the way could replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:11   car keys cars lately anyway I mean it also you know because you know it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:18   a direct we aren't seeing the contacts he could have just throwing that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21   there like in a list of things that could be done within software could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:24   been a leading question I could it be used to replace car keys and tim says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:28   yeah sure exactly i mean there's it doesn't it means nothing it just means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:32   nothing but it could be him and probably not so maybe he'll be winking were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:42   working out us during the Apple event that's coming up on the ninth which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:46   monday is that correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:47   yeah it's daylight savings day and some someone in marketing was excited because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:52   it's all about time because we're gonna talk about a watch it's about time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:57   get it a slogan on the invitation to spring forward I don't do you get a COS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:01   watches used to have springs and saving time joke and it's and it's springtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:07   sort of somewhere maybe right they announced this this day but today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:13   announced it like last month waiting get a chance to talk about it is we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   swamped with car stuff but yet so what do you think about this event i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:21   consensus is that it will be more information about watches and we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:26   that's it yeah you know we actually got a really interesting anonymous email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:30   about this that kinda hinted to us that maybe this will involve some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:36   MacBook Air a retina MacBook Air perhaps and the mark fuhrman retina MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:41   right tonight to 5 Mac like perfect you know nearly perfect outing of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:46   that's allegedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:50   if this tip is to be believed you know I don't really know what we're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:54   do when people email us tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:57   that's why i think im talking about the tip is not as interesting as talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00   about the like why why are we being sent tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:04   and by the way just the the substance of this did he actually say that this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:10   would be announced in the event of the night and yes it is that fair to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:14   that in the email I don't know when it came in we're in the email though here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:20   a brief preview of what's happening on watch day and watch their hey I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:26   suppose like this enough room in the event you talk about new MacBook Air and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:31   because that's something we can announce a new watch even when they announced the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   launch and other stuff to hear that is gonna fill us in with details assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36   like any changes they might have hopefully pricing info there to give his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:41   availability right we know the launch date only well we just know the launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:46   month of April yeah I guess they depended on today but he don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:50   whole lot vented you know fill out the missing pieces and maybe announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:55   pre-orders are available and maybe show off the new redesign Apple stores where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:59   you going to be able to try these things on and buy them and do all that business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02   and I think there's enough room in a presentation that contained that to also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:06   talk about whatever new Mac thing they have to lunch and the supposed attempts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:10   telling us that the other thing they have to launch is MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:14   that we have discussed at length based on the 95 Mac rumors and has a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:21   action tidbits that before we talked about the actual substance that the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:25   that people you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:26   send us an anonymous tip why would why would somebody do that as soon as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:32   as real so this person actually knows that they're in a position to know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:35   think they know because their second and third and they told to leave all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:38   songs as soon as far as they're concerned there in possession of super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   secret information about what is shipping why standard anybody was tended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:44   to Gruber why send it to us by send it to you know why do people by tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:49   mark fuhrman's sources at 95 Maxima Tim information that is mysterious to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:54   i've it's not like they're disgruntled employees trying to leak information to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:58   hurt their employer but sometimes I should there's a good discussion about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01   this on upgrade this week with you since now my curly where they talk exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:05   about this and and Jason had a lot to say about you know why by these sources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:10   say the things they say who you know where their information might come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:13   why they're motivated to share with somebody you know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:17   get to publish it or tell it the trading suggests that could use a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:22   but the media but i dont must be said you should tell me just just his point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:28   is is that like when you know this kind of secret information like it a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:34   people are very motivated like burning a hole in your pocket you just gotta tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:37   somebody cuz you're excited to know but that's that's the worst kind of sore so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40   if you're super exciting information then it's not like a matter of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:45   like for the people who are you working on these projects they're just as part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:50   of their life is your gonna know stuff that people like know that you're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:53   gonna tell anybody so whenever companies you know I know I know I just think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:57   gotta tell you know that your whole job I get used to it like you know you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:01   fired like it doesn't you have to it has to be somebody who is not usually in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:05   position to know what the super-secret a co-product is and then also be like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:09   gotta tell somebody in there is a separation inside out like well every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12   Apple employee doesn't know there's something in the company that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:15   Apple employee doesn't know about because the only people who know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:18   boesak our product of the people who are down there to everyone else it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21   like oh I'm not usually but you know about your project right and so I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:25   that might come to get old so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   second or third tier people who like heard from someone heard something super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:31   sized know this is depressing to think that like they're just excited to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:36   somebody because obviously if they're excited they're probably Apple fan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:40   in general you know Apple doesn't want people knowing these things so any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:44   of slow surprised too late for the rest of the fans like it's kind of it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:48   of a kind of ruins the fun if you know everything that's going to happen before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:51   its before it's out and Apple when I get like this much Apple fans you know back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:56   when steve Jobs was alive you have the persons name I was like what would Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:59   think about you telling these sites is information that you know what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:02   think you've ever met him you are not a big fan in fact they leaked information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:05   like no milk like you admire the company and admire people who work there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:12   seems like it's the reason to people who don't leak who work there don't leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:16   because they're out of respect for the company and for what they do and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19   know like I don't know it's weird I i've had these I've had people send me tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:25   on my side forever ago I've had tips come in here and there by email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:29   I i get the most boring tips like it is hilarious it's like yeah well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:35   next year then update the Cinema Display wow good typically get that went on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:41   a long time every year the same tip no new monitor this year ago but yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:49   no but I don't like it in the tapes have gotten I i have I have not mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:55   almost any of them because like what am I supposed to do this information like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:59   if I just published on my site like there's lots of rumor sites such as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:03   publishing tips they get there usually the worst rumor sites because most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:07   like if I look back at the texts I've gotten I would say at least half of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:12   have not panned out or turn out to be just flat out wrong if I had published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:17   anything or based anything anything I'd said on that information I would look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:22   stupid and I'm happy to say that of all the crazy tips of all the crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:28   predictions I've made on my side over the years that it turned out to be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:31   like blatantly embarrassingly wrong almost none of them were based on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:35   type of guy I i just am that bad a pretty things but I least thats meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:40   growing up with my own guess it's not like all I got this created by better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:44   Russian report on it on my second like no one's coming to myself for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:48   anyway what I stand to gain nothing from that and the chances that the debt any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:53   tip I get are actually gonna be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:56   are so low that it's it's just not really worth discussing like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2756">TS</a>]

00:46:01   worth even taking the risk of the talk show I think what he mentioned is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:06   his I made this remembering this but his best sources for people that he actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:11   knew like an honest sources to get someone went to a web form and typed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:15   bunch of stuff anybody could just go to that Web mormon type stuff you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   gotta do is just and competence they look this is what they're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:21   this there that you know you say whatever you want anybody can go to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:24   point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:24   like you know anybody who listens the shower now could come up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:28   plausible rumor in typing company the interweb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:31   that's the type of source that like it's basically useless as you don't know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:34   that person is anybody we're about to discuss what this person emailed us but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:38   anybody can I can read his email like it's only impressive after the fact if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:43   what Apple announces is exactly what was in his email to move retroactive 900 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:47   that one anonymous email that guy was right but that doesn't help us when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50   next time he comes from the same guy like it's I think you really have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:56   have you have to know you're talking to Andrew and you have to know how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2816">TS</a>]

00:47:01   know the things they know it's plausible and have like a track record with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:04   so that you know this morning I'm talking to him right three times in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07   row in the fourth thing that he says maybe I'll believe and even then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:10   can still be game you and try to pass out leaks but it's like it's confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:17   to me when someone says something like this because the inside information I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:21   never comfortable receiving not that I really receive any to speak up is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:25   type of information told to me with the understanding that I will never tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   anyone and then I do never tell and that's it that's where it ends and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:32   is like for the purposes of the outside world and it's exciting to me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:36   now I know something that very few people know that they never tell anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39   else and then you know oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   help I guess it helps me sometimes I get told things in confidence sort of for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:47   the purposes of background information for my OS two interviews and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:51   that and that informs my reviews and occasionally helps me to be right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:57   things that I had no right to be exactly right about that just happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00   actually know but I never phrase it as I'm a hundred percent sure about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:04   even 100% sure about because that's not the point I'm not trying to like reveal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:08   secrets or show oh how much inside knowledge I have even if I know for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:14   something I'm going to phrase it as this is this is something that is plausible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:18   and I said the same thing about other things that have no inside information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:21   about equally phrase with the same not accompany this is plausible like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:25   technically feasible plausible could be double blah half of the could be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:29   just like Marco I'm just making stuff up and thinking about this could happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:32   we'll see in the other half hour like I know for sure this is exactly what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:36   but I'm never gonna tell you that or how I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/2916">TS</a>]

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01:00:19   questionable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3619">TS</a>]

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01:00:25   out how much your finger squishes like the contact patch and changes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:29   would assume that that's what the trackpad is using to determine the force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:32   not like actual pressure or maybe the combination of both but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:36   it's gonna be like and you'll be able to tell I guess if you take something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:40   does not make a larger contact patch when you press and see if you can force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:44   touch with that I don't know what that would be news I'm kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:47   cylindrical hotdogs and something that is like the water you know you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:53   something that's filled with water like a human finger and press with it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:57   way that the contact patch does not change size and maybe it's a combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:01   but you're right we none of us have tried to force touch in the washer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   telling us that the track that it can be just like to watch almost tells us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:07   nothing by the way for whatever it's worth I actually when when the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:12   announced that two months ago and they talked about four stocks I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15   speculated on the show they were probably just measuring their the radius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:19   of the touch you know like shit passively not national mission force and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:23   I think we got a couple of people who sent a member exactly what I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:28   got a couple of people telling us they actually there actually were pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:31   sensors sensors as well so I think there's something there but either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:35   you know we'll see how this pans out in practice I was very skeptical of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:40   current contract that we have the the quote but unless for the kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:44   whole thing as a button and just hangs in the top I was very skeptical that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:47   when it came out and it turned out to be just fine and normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49   so you know this sounds really weird but it might be awesome I guess we'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:55   out there is a thing on the Apple watch page but the Apple technology page at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3715">TS</a>]

01:02:00   apple.com where you can see an escalation of force touch and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:04   what we're being plain to see that explanation also applies to think again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:07   but branding can apply for such you know once they have a sort of a branded name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:12   with a capital after a capital T then they can just apply that same name to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:17   anything remotely like that a product line regardless of whether it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   uses the same technology retina but does not get what's what's a good example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:23   there done that I mean 505 all to which you totally unrelated technologies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:27   the other than the fact that they both attempt to encrypt your data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:30   implementation why is this year nothing but they do show the same branding so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:35   the next bit is about like what are they going to do they have just a single part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:40   how how do they deal with that and this is the big one guys this is it there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:45   you ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:45   the answer is super exciting a USB hub I know you're super excited about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:50   interesting part about this is not so much as our tip a USB not so much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:55   defective hubble tips their provides motivation behind this and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3775">TS</a>]

01:03:01   motivation and little story behind it is but that with the original retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:04   MacBook Pro the didn't have an Ethernet port apparently doing market research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:08   let Apple determine that people really want high-speed networking if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:12   going to buy a big expensive laptop and so they made the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:16   Thunderbolt Ethernet adapter or whatever and according to the steps toward that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:22   that was made the sole reason their products listed but because the customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:26   demand today that they discovered through market research and that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:29   were selling it either at cost or below cost when it was initially made because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:34   at that point assume Thunderbolt chips were expensive or whatever because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37   was important for them to have that products are $29 adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:41   unlike so many other Apple products did not have a big margin in fact may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:44   been sold a slight loss when it was brand new now I'm sure the margins are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:47   better on or whatever so that same idea as with this adapter like that they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:53   know why did why does this exist because based on market researcher whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:59   determined at one point part is that enough people need some way to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:03   other parts and as marcos talk about Pashos third-party USB hubs are flaky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:08   and probably doesn't want to be attached to deal with like sleep-wake problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:12   and things you know taking the bus and stuff like that so as I suggested I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:17   could be nice if Apple made a really nice 30 port that they are sturdy USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:22   hub today new worked with their stuff that like maybe this is like a tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:25   order if you currently have some apple bread at harvard is driving you insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:28   didn't help that is made by Apple Time Capsule it's like you're something but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:33   anyway in theory now become make one of these qualified for use in all its OS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:37   and make sure it's dirty and good and all that good stuff so according to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:40   steps to that exactly what they're doing they're making a hub to USB type-a parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:45   to type seaports its poses the small and fairly heavy so that doesn't pull off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:52   the table but the thing that you plug it in and it'll be a powered hub see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:56   part Shenzhen weird to me a number of things about this and we are to me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:59   fact that it's a small USB hub it's going to be heavy that I don't buy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:04   and also how funny is it and it is very Apple iPhone but how funny is it to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:09   a USB only has like four ports and to only two of them are actually normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:12   well I'm thinking of heavy I'm thinking kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:16   I guess kind of like Apple TV like for instance for its size like that do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:20   think it's going to be a big load but small but feels dense when you pick it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:23   up like a grippy rubber thing on the bottom picturing something looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:27   little miniature white Apple TV when I see it is where they say about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:32   something about having a short stubby stiff cable where that bit the hub is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:36   small the cable connecting it to the Mac is stiff in very short it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:39   significant weight to it so it doesn't get ripped off your desk or out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:42   port by the power brakes power brick makes me feel bad I don't like power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:46   brakes like this one of the unique things about hubs is the stupid power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:49   brake unit the ac/dc converter and deceiving plugs in the back of that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:53   one of the awesome things about the amazing things about the Apple TV this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:56   is the one that has no internal power supply right yeah that's that's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3956">TS</a>]

01:06:01   pocket and it does not have a power brick at all it just doesn't plug that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:05   goes into you know the outlet know all the power supplies internal which is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:09   amazing feats such a tiny little thing and I like that and it's sort of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:13   super premium experience that another Pakistani like that you got the Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:17   yeah it has a break and then the Big Apple TV terror it's a bigger footprint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:24   but it's it's pretty short it's setting it shorter but wider so if you took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:29   what's in that bracket added to the length of the Amazon things that need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:32   be huge just goes to show what Apple has done with their pocket despite the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:36   that everything else about their pockets completely updated outclassed by every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:38   other product category they do have a really nice internal power supply yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:43   again that right and no fan yes no fan lot of games on their own as far as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:48   know it doesn't that's not a no I don't think it has any ventilation holes for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:54   family no ventilation holes just turns around the warm air jeff is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4014">TS</a>]

01:07:01   crazy and so the summary of this is the employer reporters can clearly accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:06   and the only things that he didn't have as he didn't have the hub and he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:10   know whether it be ready and the answer is yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12   and by the way it mark Gurman in a podcast like a few days after this did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:17   say of course we'll be right now I don't know why he left out of the article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:21   maybe he wasn't positive he said Hi Resolution but he specifically said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:26   it is it like you have course he does run the website I can he just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:31   changed and he could have like 10 months everybody said you didn't even say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:35   read now you can just go right thing to do update yes it will be ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   closed anyway maybe he didn't know it for sure at the time that he published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:41   in one and everything in it to be correct so that people look back and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:45   bye you that everything correct so how could you have come to the Stake rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:49   few if you had no information of the reading an article is pretty easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:52   because you could say that are close a hundred percent correct but there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:57   beds information you don't know one thing that for such thing that already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4077">TS</a>]

01:08:00   talked about for the watching tell you that's how they're doing the trackpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   and to everyone has been saying that it only has one part of the problem may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:06   that of some kind of however something well actually Apple is making out here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:09   so many ports will be on it and hear your attributes of it by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:13   real-time follow up on that Apple watch technology page apple says right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:16   for such uses tiny electrodes around to be flexible Retina Display to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:21   distinguish between a light tap into deep press so that so yeah apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:25   there there are actually a hardware sensors that will that will tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:28   detect a pressured press there rather than just measuring the size of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:32   fingertips growing bigger or does that at all maybe doesn't do the fingertip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:35   rate is that all right exactly yeah alright well we will find out I suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:42   I mean how how do we know whether this person was right but first I gotta have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:45   a USB yeah I mean the USB hub that this e-mail described you know that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:51   pretty thorough description so it's going to be pretty obvious whether this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:55   was credible or not because it's not like you know this event is five days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4135">TS</a>]

01:09:00   from now it is this it's too late for something like this to be cancelled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:05   you know if this this person but to us I think this morning right so like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:10   know chances are like this is gonna be a hundred percent writer under percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:13   wrong with some last-minute change that lol I was right but they delayed iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:18   pros you know it's not going to get that right there this is going to be alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:22   Iran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:23   and I think it's hilarious that if it's all right that we got this amazing tip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:28   about a USB hub and so the first thing we have no way to tell if that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:33   because even if they don't use the phrase for stocks this doesn't tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:37   that they're going to use the phrase marketing term for such like basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:41   it's relying entirely on the government article being right because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:44   government said trackpad it doesn't move it has a trackpad doesn't move was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:47   one right no was doing was repeating like the only additional information is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:51   providing is it's using the same thing is for study and we can tell that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:54   they announce it because you know and love Apple specifically brands it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:58   force touch it so well that doesn't move that's what our community said hey guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:04   I have breaking news I've just gotten a tip from an anonymous source that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:09   Apple's about to announce during this event an update to the double a battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:13   charger if this is real and I'm not saying it is but if it is real in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:24   person was genuinely excited to kind of quietly get credit for something I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:30   it's at least mildly interesting piece of information that nobody else really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:33   knew up front I feel bad for this person has weed now spent the last half an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:39   if this reading this poor person I mean like you know if they're making it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:44   they deserve to be really kill them if they're not making up they will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:47   vindicated by history like to figure out how will tell whether they're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:53   the most interesting thing if this is true new thing that I'm most interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:56   about is the idea that Apple makes products in the US market research to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4256">TS</a>]

01:11:02   figure out if the price of palpable in scrambles to make it a prisoner in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:05   name that is I give that is actually true that sort of you know and we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:10   have a good way to tell that but I can if that if inside Apple that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:14   things are working that is not a healthy situation because he gets back to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:17   thing with the whole one port like what advantages one part provide that to part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:21   does not and I haven't got a satisfactory answer to the answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:24   someone design it says this is a proper making notes can be thin know he had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:28   single part Baba and then some of the department get them says our customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:32   are saying basically it's a no-go zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:34   gotta give them some solution I guess we'll make some adapters lebanon sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:38   a lot like that's terrible it shows you're not making like this was your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:41   frog design is not letting the market and it would explain a lot of things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4301">TS</a>]

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01:11:49   kind of Porter rearranges things are just so you know like it's better to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRv4Si8/4309">TS</a>]

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