00:00:00 ◼ ► hundred episodes gentleman I'm proud of us remembered we should have planned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/0">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► something better but oh well thats but that that's the US thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► totally as and that's exactly what we did is we r us but sometimes I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/10">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► that we can be better than us but now actually bad should be the pre-show hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/16">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► very subtle gradations exactly what you're gonna shout shout we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/23">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► show where live hi everybody we're very excited is that because this episode 100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/30">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► am I got it I forgot about that now I'm excited about a week ago that we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/37">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► coming up on you but I didn't remember tonight well so this shows for just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/42">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► today but to do that I remember important dates are not our own birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/46">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► OKC remember just being you john we knew we forgot I guess so hypocritical made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/51">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► it to a hundred to a hundred asterisk what did build analyzed at 2108 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/57">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► Lost ok so if we make it to 101 then we have unequivocally done better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/62">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► hypercritical is it fair to say it's not I works well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/72">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► credit should have thought that was a poor choice of words on my part thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/76">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► you for keeping me honest we have perhaps completed more can I get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► from you john yes that's what it means when one number is bigger than you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/86">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► I mean we tentatively have already completed more episodes because there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/90">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► that one that was just like the promo that was for the movie thing and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/95">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► was the one that mean Merlin did when john couldn't do it because it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/99">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► really critical 30 episode of its got a number it's got a title is in the RSS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/102">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► feed that these reels real can be well we didn't have you on it matter it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/106">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► critical had a number and title and a page that shows that everything that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/112">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► has i didnt that was a mean I have listened back but at the time I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/118">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► actually very happy with how it turned out it didn't have a critical at all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/122">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► I was very happy with it I I wish more like a tech show and maybe maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/126">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► it's better for everyone including him that that he doesn't that he instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/131">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► just like makes parts of it shows tech when he has something funny to say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/136">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► it but I like he is so good with the tax stuff so incredibly good and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/140">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► provides a voice for it and and opinions for it that we really don't hear from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/146">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► other people and and I always feel like we're missing that you know if by good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/150">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► you mean makes me want to yell into the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/155">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► the best is when they do it on rider gonna live here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► the two of them together talking takes maybe on throttle them both I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/163">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► it i think is best at what they did like three or four episodes ago where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/168">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► whole first half was about tech was amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/171">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► alright so the show bodies semi broken just like old times just like old times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/175">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► is a clip show 100th episode spectacular would you like to wager guessed what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/181">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► happened did you not properly non retain the closure to set time out so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/193">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► now that's good but now and I should say that I have not knowingly changed any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/201">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► the code with relation to the show but specifically are you now gonna rewrite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► and go no but it is slightly tempting honestly probably should go site will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/212">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► pay him money on negative that have been free that's quite possible now that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/220">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► not the case so here it was I was thinking about making this big grandiose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/229">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► speech about how it really isn't so terrible relying on third-party code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/235">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► because it allows you to do things that are kinda cool more specifically earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/239">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► today I decided that I was really tired of not being able to use markdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/246">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► footnotes in my and my site has all the cool kids use markdown footnotes I wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/250">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► be a cool kid is there a particular module or whatever that I was using was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/256">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► called marks and it's it's a 10 p.m. marginal or package I get things were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/261">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► looking for anyway and so I swapped Mart for markdown it which is a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/266">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► package that also parses marked down and was all excited with myself because now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/275">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► I had marked down footnotes problem then that I ran into then was now on my main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/279">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► page which is the only page that I can think of that has more than one complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/287">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► post on a single page what happens when I have two posts that both half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/292">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► footnotes because they're both generated in isolation and so they'll reuse the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/298">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► same anchors in so then I had to go through a humongous song and dance which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/303">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► ended up being simple at the very end but I tried like thirty four different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/308">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► iterations to get to the simple answer what to do and how do you make unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/312">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► each of these markdown footnote anchors I got that accomplished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/318">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► well what I didn't think to do was check the Showbox specifically the page that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/322">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► hosted on my regular site that that handles the show and see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/329">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► ramifications of this marked down parsers which would be and it appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/337">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► for those of you who are not listening live if this actually makes it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/342">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► show it appears that somehow it is a meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/345">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► escapehtml only for the links section of the show but page so I'm seeing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/350">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► titles just fine but the links are just the HTML header for the table and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/359">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► nothing else so hoops sorry everyone could talk that was a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/365">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► spectacular hope everyone is happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/370">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► yeah I guess the show's over now because we can't go past 200 something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► we are joking this show is still going on we've sold ads past two hundred so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/376">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► in fact well past two hundred so we have to keep doing it right so let's do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/382">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► follow up and I'd like to start with some very quick anecdotal thoughts about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/388">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► using USB ports so we talked last episode 148 never gonna watch paint dry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/395">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► come on so last episode we talked about how on the potential I Pad Pro / MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/403">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► Air that there's theoretically only going to be one USB ports USB Type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/413">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► seaport and whether or not that's a big deal and and particularly John and I are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/419">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► going back and forth as to whether or not that's a big deal and so I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► to myself well let me ask my family because their normal computer users and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/426">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► see ok does anyone actually use USB ports as one of the things i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/431">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► hopefully explained during the show was hey we have a lot of technologies now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/437">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► like airdrop for example that may obviate I think that's what I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/441">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► USB keys and there's a bunch of other examples bluetooth for mice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/446">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► keyboards so I asked my family what do you use USB ports for and Aaron and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/451">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► mom both said well i charge my Fitbit that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/458">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► well you know that's something you could find other means for doing that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/461">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► that's reasonable answer and Aaron Wilson iPod shuffle and so she said well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/464">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► I also you know things on my iPod shuffle that way obviously that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► big deal for a phone but for an iPod shuffle you really ought to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► otherwise my immediate younger brother and two younger brothers my media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/475">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► younger brother who is a real adults and works in the video game industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/479">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► actually said that he typically uses his USB ports for keyboard mouse iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/484">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► USB key often times but not always simultaneously and my youngest brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/490">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► who is studying California he's doing a Masters he said and i'm quoting I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/494">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► have enough and I have three he was saying that he hears it is for a mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/502">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► of his phone and often times more than one USB key and additionally at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/507">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► one external hard drive so it appears that my theory that really you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/514">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► need USB ports maybe not so well I think that you know I think you're seeing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/520">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► bet there's like a big bifurcation of the market here where if I had to guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/526">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► I would guess that what you have here is a pretty good representative sample [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/531">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► actually just by luck i mean i i dont think your family is like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/535">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► average family ever made but you know I think I think like if I had to guess how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/539">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► was I would guess that's how it is which is that most people use very few of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/544">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► and the primary reason the youth mister charge things that charge over USB phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/548">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► right it's some camera stuff like that charging things over USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/554">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► i think is is a big thing especially in recent years when so many devices have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/558">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► have become chargeable over USB and for that you know you don't necessarily need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/563">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► to be using a port on your computer for that although it is convenient computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/569">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► right there in your desk and has these ports and you don't have to take more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► outlets so and you don't have to bring so many doctors on trips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/576">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► it is definitely convenient although it isn't strictly necessary and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/580">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► have the people like Brady your your brother where you know three ports is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/584">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► not enough because he has a lot to devices this this will apply to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/588">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► people who have a bunch of peripherals with a bunch of discs who have a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/591">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► desk set up with like an actual keyboard mouse desk maybe other stuff like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/596">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► know if you have a big setup where you're parking lot by the time you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► gonna need more than that in which case no number of port on a laptop is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/603">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► to be enough and you're going to be using the hub now things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/607">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► attacked by adapters or hubs are inherently less reliable than built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/611">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► ports most of the time in my experience and as we move towards computers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/616">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► have fewer and fewer internal devices and ports I I think this is gonna keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/621">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► being a problem fortunately the need for me this is also going away as jazz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► tradition happens but like you know you might I need an Ethernet port anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/630">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► because you use wireless and especially on a laptop or if that's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/635">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► whereas Lake you know on a desktop you need some of these things now what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/639">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► don't want but I'm not looking forward to is a world in which you have this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/645">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► port on the computer and then you just have to plug in some random hug from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/650">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► Amazon from god knows what manufacturer with god knows what who's chip inside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/654">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► that will that has some weird cheapo power supply that's gonna flake out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/659">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► get out and get all weird weird hard to diagnose errors for the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/663">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► plugged into it or intermittent failures are put into it like i dont wanna get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/668">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► the point where I'm dependent on some cheap USB hub from Amazon and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/673">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► find the best one that actually will work because like I have that now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/677">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► there's a certain subset of devices that I will only plug in directly to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/681">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► computer ports because the hubs just are never that reliable and please don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/685">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► email me saying I bought this house but it's perfect if you look at every have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/689">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► look at all of them and and all of them have mostly reviews say this is perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/693">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► and a bunch of useless played out on me and it's like it seems like they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/698">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► basically the same I bet the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► actual manufacturers of these things is probably pretty small number of chipsets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/704">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► the use probably even smaller so like a just the kind of thing like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/708">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► dependent on like the random PC peripheral hardware market for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/713">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► stuff to work properly is not a good place to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/718">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► yeah yes I was going to do this thing where it's like oh one part and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/721">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► need more you know he's have a whole breakup thing like at the very least you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/725">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► would think that Apple at the Science to make a high quality one of these that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/729">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► works because all the time too and in addition to like the things you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/734">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► mentioned something just just plain not working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/741">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► something's being flaky the worse of course if you haven't drive attached to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► a hub because the last thing you want to be flaky is your connection to a drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► backup drive and who knows what it's doing over there but then also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/750">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► sleep-wake issues where you don't go to sleep with the habitat won't wake with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/756">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► the habitat for the hubble wake it up because something we'll take a literal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/761">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► fire off a little thing and I'll make computer think you plug into USB device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► when you haven't actually so many problems and and the only way applicants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/768">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► or defend against them is that we sell I mean I am saying this because like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/773">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► the Thunderbolt Display at all the problems I had with the ports are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/777">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► actively a big giant Apple made hub where you plug Thunderbolt cable into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/781">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► your computer and the power thing is actually here to end at of it you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/785">TS</a>]
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00:24:22 ◼ ► we can make a laptop you know even thinner and you can just can't you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► have the expertise to jump from your half-inch thick laptop to the one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► the thickness of a credit card or whatever works better than our phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► but I think that was the analogy was using it like that and that stupid soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► they're going to be even have to bend them like they got the pending issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► with the iPhone 6 and everything and they just a start becoming thin and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► feel like geez we're going in the wrong direction here we just need to Stop you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► don't need to stop actually need to just keep going and go through and until your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► thickness and weight of a credit card and then you drop it on the ground who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► cares if you drive a crack on the ground the cabins do it right it's flexible its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► then it's lighter more durable but you're not going to get to you or your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► phone that is so light and thin and durable you don't even care about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► never gonna get there if you keep making your phone the thickness of the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► iPhone news keep adding more CPU and RAM and batteries that thickness so this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► think is part of the march of progress and as it relates to the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► rumored 12 injury just any of the guys that are out now why do they keep making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► that dinner what they need for that I think I think part of it is wait because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► as Markov and out with the iPad air even though it is like who cares how programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► here a couple grams there are things that you either holds all the time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► the iOS devices or carry around a lot you know from room to room in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► backpack there are little thresholds of weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► speaking of Ireland talk about tech discusses on his pocket if you don't how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► once you pass a certain threshold the way he doesn't notice when that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► hardware is in his backpack like is he notices more when it when he brings his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► leather men with him I get a metal on metal tool he knows when that says in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► his backpack but he can't even tell us much about me and there is it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► the MacBook Air could be getting to that thing where it's not a factor of like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► used to be like and have a laptop my backpack out of luck that big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► around book air is already have crossed the threshold of like it's not a big lug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► around but you kind of know when it's in there and if they keep going along this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► path of making dinner and keeping with the taper making it lighter they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► they will eventually run up into a durability issue because you can take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► little time that then because in spring back likes a carbon fiber would in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► event they got the screen problem there especially fused glass anywhere in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► for flexibility but they're approaching a place where they have to do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► materials designed to within the current materials they're using their just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► trying to keep going to get the expertise of like how think we make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► how much can we move what is actually essential job and is why we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► about us that what is essential to you need a keyboard on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► have a just a keyboard no screen the MacBook shuttle now that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1614">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► still thinking about these things which is why I'm not doing for so much for why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► you gotta make it stand apart thing I complained to them because if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► if you think you need any parts why would you have one of them enough to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► to this another fall by about that but that I just wanted to follow that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► because I talked about how we're gonna actually blogged about it and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► relevant to this rumors of the sectional product there was a really good post in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► 16 colors do since no new website with research help from our friend Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► hackett with about Apple solving for x with battery life or end and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► gist of the post is if you look Apple has has clearly decided like what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► right level of battery life is for iPhones and iPads and they've they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► kept it fairly consistent or at least within a very small range iPad exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► the same and iPhones are very low bit more but it's it's clear like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► Apple AAPL has decided through whatever through research or experimentation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► just thinking you know whatever they think is best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► they've decided clearly like we don't need more battery life than this in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► device type and so any savings we get from advancements in technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► manufacturing we can apply to other areas like making it then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► her later and I think this it's it's it's so obviously look at this that ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► of course that's what they're doing this they have been doing and so looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► this I think it's pretty obvious that the the quote MacBooks tell her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► everything ends up being called names everything ends up being call if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► real I think it's pretty obvious that you know it's not going to be a quantum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► leap forward in battery life it is most likely gonna they're going to apply the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► savings towards the innocent wait and I agreed with what you said about liking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► we do need to make progress in those areas over time I do think though like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► don't know anybody who has an iPhone who is extremely satisfied with the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► life most of the time you do now an iPhone I am extremely satisfied with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► phone for like a day like this is how part of the reason have an iPhone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► because they don't really need one but now that I have on battery life like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► can forget to charge it for a day and I'm fine I go two days for that who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► you know he's a knife on August two days but that doesn't mean that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► appropriate said before arrival to had a model of phone that does it different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► trade offer people will be able to use it had to do barely get through the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► and it's hard there should be a product for them but the current battery life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► fine and I think and there was a graph that shows like an uptick for the office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► of the six plus that they got there creating six plus the only big jump on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► it is up to a week we've talked to over the past year many many times about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► same exact thing of like how how they they're holding coltd battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1792">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► constant and then make it thinner if you can and I are you were saying that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► they've decided decided that the best for them I don't think they decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► anything like I think that's just that's about it like they have and when it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► thought device that was a mandate no aggression on battery life you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► and mandated wavered the iPad 3 again we've discussed many times and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► that that has been their mandate but I don't I wouldn't worry too much on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► deciding the same way that like they decided like oh the size of the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► exactly right now this is the size they made it seem like good side of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► later they try to talk to and they made a bigger that's alright like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► up for grabs right and I think the battery life on all the products being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► held burrows constant is simply a matter of the fall product can be worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► the one that came before but if you try to make it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► all the areas that you can make it better battery life is like seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► the last on the list like you're not going to regress you gotta make it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► least the same doesn't get any better than their places it but we can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► better and CPU and GPU and screen you know in interface you know it in GPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► manufacturer durability like all these different categories and battery life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► like just don't regret it seems to be pretty darn low on the list of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► that prioritizing and i think is a reasonable parties again for the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► that talked about the thinnest and also because you know faster CPUs and GPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► cell phones more than battery life just to make one model and battery app I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► guess maybe this exposes yeah that's pretty clear that their answer but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► think you know similar to argue about the news we're like we have to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► progress gradually over time to to eventually have like a major step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► forward you know in total the same thing about her life and they have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► incremental progress over time but it really has been fairly incremental in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► part of this is because battery technology changes so incredibly slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► and and like we're not going to have compared to the silicon technology not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► that I mean it changes the species just compared to almost every other component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► you know what you can do with those on the screens are just like twice as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► twice three times the resolution electron on the phone batteries have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► gotten three times as good lifetime different rates of technology change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► right but like any of the laptops their battery lives have gone up substantially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► over the last few years where it wasn't that long ago that like a five hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► battery life was top of the line under the most ideal conditions only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► and now we're up to you know 780 fairly regularly although I've never gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► that but that's because I by the big four core model that I know anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► battery life but we're where things get interesting were you when you get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► you know really interesting shift in it what this enables you to do is when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► have a really big change battery life when all of a sudden like if your laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► if you don't need to be plugged it in all day like if you can actually work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► battery all day and not worry about not have range anxiety not worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► bottoming out having to plug in like if you can't treat it actually if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► laptop genuinely has a 24 hour in use with WiFi battery life then that enables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► uses that that enables freedoms that you do that you might have before the order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► you that you couldn't count on realized that before that's where things get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► interesting is when you can make jumps like that and overtime eventually maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► we'll get there I hope maybe but but if you look at the way Apple does these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► dumps it doesn't look like that's it doesn't look like getting there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► you know eventually they they might get there like accidentally but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► seem like they're pushing for that and i think i think thats a lost opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► like the rumor 12 inch MacBook is an indication of how they might make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► next step on that because as we said when they pass city like the batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► are getting better that much faster what is happening is that every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► components in laptop get lower power and that's how we get like the current good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► MacBook Air is that you know better battery life opens did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► but for these for this rumored think this could be a way they make sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► larger step for asleep while the batteries are really getting that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► better but but you know some in the back of some designers mine Harbor designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► gianni over both have the idea of components keep getting bigger screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► even though we went to the retina 5 cam xvid ITA lower power than the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► screen eventually they're going to get decent OLED these things you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► even bigger drop such as they make their entire enterprise black lots of lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► the components are going down and power usage but somebody has in the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► their mind can I just drop everything and it's freakin notebook and just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► like a tiny little to centimeter square that's the whole laptop and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► tell the rest of it with battery like what can I pull out of this laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► keyboard screen alright what else can I remove can I remove everything except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► can I remove all the parts night we need someplace or power to go in and remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► every single interface except for one low power USB 3 thing I can get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► you know if they could have got to get rid of audio and I know that the hybrid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► cable to like a headphone jack is the input thing but I'm still like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► those don't offer audio anymore sorry I should clarify most hardware the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► does have audio in the Mac the Mac Mini has audio in the laptops as far as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► know their laptops don't have anymore I mean that's not really a probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► power-saving so maybe the chips that are like they just they want them to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► the phone where it's mostly just a giant battery in the case of the screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► then off to the side this tiny little thing that is the entire computer and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► you look inside the MacBook Air as you watch the battery slowly eat the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► the computer over the past few years to be like a board inside there in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► board became like two little skinny things and just like it's running away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► from this giant battery that's eating it and one of the ways you get power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► savings banks just to be merciless about what you remove I guess we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► probably skip to that follow up item because it's related to destroy Gulfport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► MS reasons like I could ask for why do I get was one part that I don't have with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► two why would they do this is there reason begin think he's got to get us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► reasons one is related to power but in a slightly different way that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► talking to Michael maybe baby to me and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► have like maybe ripping out the part means ripping up the supporting chipset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► because the one part of their some large gain that's not just like incremental I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► could you know you don't need supporting machinery behind in-depth reports the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► one part wires directly into the thing without a control who knows I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► the details maybe but now it isn't about it is almost certainly out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► controller logic inside it's about the amount of power that port could draw by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► its own specs so if you have like firewire devices could write n water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► supply that's a new USB as I think so anyway it's like if you have multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► ports you have to put the laptop has to be able to supply the maximum power draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► those ports would have to have a power supply big enough so that shortens the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► battery life of young plugged in like I don't think optimizing for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► everything plugged in battery life I think they're optimizing for the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► life with nothing like that's the life you know there whenever they charge a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► battery life they're not saying with a bunch of Dr sucking power so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► self-powered hard drive spinning hard drives our family apart like it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► worth noting something is this impassive power you know did you need other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► components anyway I think it's more like you know it could if you have if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► have the port the conduction potentially draw 10 watts or whatever then every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► like two power supply circuit race be bigger the power brick has to be bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► the total power drawn and thermal output of the laptop has to be best to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► higher than the peak power but yeah there could be some passive loss to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► larger supply or whatever but his angle on it is that if you had two parts he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► thinks that they would both have to support charging like if you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► charge through it and then maybe there will be more complicated electrically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► and that would be the complication I would imagine that they have two parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► they would be perfectly fine they only charged one of them a little like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► charges simple folks are in town and laser-etched stuff to no human being can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► see his second thought was there is no room for more ports because the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► goes edged age and he needs space for the key travel and they're putting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► part in the one place where it can be where dozens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► that doesn't explain why you can't have one on one side and on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► the headphone port I feel like you showed that from looking for these fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► marketable product doesn't actually exist it seemed to me that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► room on both sides to have you know one USB on both sides can still find a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► to widen the thing but like but at the time they do not constrained by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► predefined case or a mock-up rendering you get to design the product if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► gonna go keyboard edge-to-edge fine like moving down an extra three millimeters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► to make room for the you know I don't find news reasons particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► convincing but there are certain spots this week is a glue and internet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► will actually like a glue is easy to use apps like shared counters twitter-like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► microblogs file-sharing test management and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► it is everything you need to work better together in one very configurable cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► igloo software dot com slash ATP to sign up a clue is an internet you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► like that is free for up to 10 people and very reasonably priced when she go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► past that they've responsive design it works perfectly on all your devices iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► Android and Blackberry all supported fully as well they built their document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► renderer and their annotation engine all with html5 so that even that will work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► all the dynamic features the commenting features the antigen peter that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► works even on smart phones blackberries even know it'll work with whatever Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► releases new devices new size devices it works great on those because it's fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► responsive you can review document decomposed product updates you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► change admin settings are all the EU can do pretty much anything you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► anything you can do from mobile device as well it's really mobile first design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► fully responsive design perfect for all that stuff you can customize the look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► and feel and when you customize that those customizations also carry over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► every device gets fully responsive and integrated with your design and even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► the past I don't know why but in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► Gardner put them under Magic Quadrant for social software for six consecutive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► years I'm guessing that comes out next I but they're still gonna be on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► alongside tech giants including Microsoft IBM Google VMware Salesforce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► ASAP in this report that valued the viability of the vendor Gartner praised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► igloo for their response their their responsiveness and customer experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► to quote from this report from last fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► feedback from it was reference customers was consistently positive they praised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► the product deployment configuration and customization flexibility with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► self-serve options for non-technical users controller branding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► information renovation and ease of use they also praised the responsiveness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► a clue as an organization so anyway if your company has a legacy internet built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► on SharePoint or old portal technology you should definitely give it a try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► because i dont have never heard of anybody who says they love their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► internet before you and want to use it will hear very good things so it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► free to use for teamed up to 10 people so really if you're a small company you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► have nothing to lose just go try it even if you're a small department within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► big company go try for departments if you like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► sign up it includes software dot com slash ATPs igloo software dot com slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► ATP thanks a lot so we're going a little long on the follow-up but i wanna try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► trudge through all the 12 inch air stuff episode 100 all follow up this probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► will be then that would be fitting so do you want to talk I think this is mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► aimed at John do you want to talk about which will Compton said to us as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► couple people who talked about the twelve in number 12 in share as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► relates to crime books and you mentioned it wasn't UKC analyzed show talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► about crime books books you'll know it's like a laptop that you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2514">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► this never computer all over again at the laptop the laptop itself doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► have it in part on everything mccloud laptops just local cash it super simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► and super cheap and they like him for education like you if your Chromebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► just falls off cliff whatever get a new one plug it in sign in with your Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► account your caps there again it's a really great idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► the videos that Google has shown a presented it everything is essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► the future of computing and Apple and Google is their first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► and it's only there because it's so but these two angle record of people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► the crime books for the elimination of all the headaches that come with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► owning and maintaining a computer try moving more towards being a disposable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► type thing which obviously is the opposite of the way Apple and the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► aspect that is so damn cheap like remember the netbooks from a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► ago ever ever ever let's keep things of course Apple needs to make cheap things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► to compete but that's not around in circles about that the network book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2575">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► the Chromebook seems TV bring the issue back again I think the people who learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► the lesson in the network there are fine but now the new crop of people who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► either around during the network thing or have forgotten who are saying Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► needs to come out with a $300 laptop if they don't the Chromebook is gonna eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► their lunch and education they're going to take over the education market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► schools are cheap and they want cheap laptops and you know the Chromebook is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► less expensive than iPads even even if you buy an iPad Tues and other stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► yeah so there's a lot of angles when you see a small thin light thing you like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► that's gonna be Apple's companies in the Chromebook and every time someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► tweeted that at me or send feedback related to crumble call you think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► gonna give people the true crime book with a product that's four times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► price may be ten times the price like we didn't talk about pricing of the rumored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► fictional pride here but do any of his expect this that laptop to be less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► around $1000 I mean Chromebook started about $200 right right so it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2636">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► five x the price like I'm guessing 1500 start right thing it could be even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► expensive like it you know because of the thinnest like that's just not how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► works like nobody I don't think anybody thinks this number 12 in chair is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► to be some super duper cheap like maybe it'll be cheaper than the current air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► somehow possibly cause of all the crap out of it that's conceivable but is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► gonna be $200 000 and so it's seems crazy to me to talk about competing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► Chromebooks with a private and not in its price range like that no matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► it's very like there's no sentence saying this is like saying that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► hundred court competes with the Ferrari like they don't there is no competition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► between them you can't entertain thoughts of competition between them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► during a different market and how much you think that you know before I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► needs to answer for the new Honda Accord because I know they don't they just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► do you mean answer whether they actually do for I think that the new Ferrari is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► for our use answer to the new Honda Odyssey house if you wanna know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► not the pricing is is the you know multiples of each other but I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► think that's their answer no they're not comfortable so any time I see the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► Chromebook in relation to this thing again it's a rumor thing I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► maybe it will cost too much greater by three of them right but I really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► think it will you wouldn't even buy one you complain about the but see there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► no there's no until there is at least a pricing rumor about this I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► it's important I do think that Apple's competition is the idea behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► Chromebook and perhaps I think this is Casey was perhaps like their answer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► see the whole thing of like oh we don't need parts anymore we remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► complications everything you always have ever that is eventually the future is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► just not quite the present and people buy computers they want to use in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► present and the president you can remove everything apart from a laptop except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► for USB we totally can do that by the way someone just an hour ago tweeted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► picture showing us USB Type C with DisplayPort going over it I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► how many times we had to reiterate this yes it's not it's not a made up crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► Apple thing you can send DisplayPort over USB Type C connector it's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► the suspect it is not Anakin PowerRating 25 K [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► it has enough bandwidth for that right I can just look at the spectacle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► shows they show you the pin out to show you guys over those 10 this is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► industry-wide spec it is not speculation that were saying this is technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► possible and really attack impossible to think so you'll be buying products with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► it anyway I mean I don't know why people keep sending us these things to show us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► the displaying or yeah just it's baffling to me so I do think Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► to eventually have an answer to the idea behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► the Chromebook but I think it's also for now it is trying to field products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► fulfill needs that people that do you know do the Apple thing that premium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► products they charge of paying for it and make a lot of money their fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► their nice hardware wise were all talking about here and thus far Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2816">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► has not shown any interest in trying to compete with the various other companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► that sell similar devices for massively lower prices and I don't see anything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► this rumor that makes me think it's gonna be a mess again I can entertain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► the idea that the entry level model of a three digit price I can't entertain the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► idea that will be 200 bucks I don't think it'll be anywhere near that sheep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► I think you're both right that it'll be around about $7,000 if it's what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► think it is which by the way obviously him he totally different but if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► less than $1,000 I will be stunned I think also you know I saw a few people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► made the comment that Apple has to respond Chromebook style because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► Chromebooks are apparently selling well to education first of all you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► think Apple's answer to the Chromebook is the iPad I don't think it's a cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► iPads can push up in 2008 the fancy model so it's not like iPads or 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2875">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► education markets buying like you know that the Tribune four-door models but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► still you know that that's that's still more than Chromebook and in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► harder to manage 44 big you know schooler fleet type used anyway I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► don't think Apple holds the educational relationship as some kind of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► they can never lose education customers are you know just like big enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► customers there is a lot of buyers out there that they will buy stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► they're extremely hard to get and education it's like enterprise but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► no money like there is money in education but not nearly as much as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► as anybody wants you can't please them like IBM will do for its corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► corporate customers by charging them insane fees because they know it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► look crazy but they have so much money they'll pay it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► right and and many of the biggest buyers are going to be very high needs high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► maintenance customers that like you're gonna have to come to them on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► terms and and you know make concessions to them because they they have to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► you know couple hundred or thousand of these things and maintain them over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► and justify that to all these different committees and and funders and work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► within the grants and every like they're so so much complexity in that system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► it's so hard to get an in the end there's not a whole lot of money to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► made there and so I don't think Apple look at that as something that they must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► keep I think education should be looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► just like any other big enterprise customer we're like they'll be happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► serve them but only on Apple's terms and they're not that scared to lose them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► and you can look at it and say well you know you wanna catch kids early but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► think the era of kids the of the kids having their like primary computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► experience at school is certainly not going away or and probably never totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► go away from from many demographics and and kids but I think the relevance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► is being really reduced by personal devices smartphones iPod touches and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► iPads at home USA like Apple doesn't necessarily have to be too concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► with keeping the education market it just has to be concerned with keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► the kids doing pretty well keeping the kids because you said the kids have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► contact with computing devices outside everywhere now it's not just in a school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► or work it's a part of life right so long as a bookkeeper the kids are okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► now there is a danger here because like if if comebacks ever to become pervasive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► but I don't think that you know you're doing well but I don't think it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► they're wiping out a lot of education but if they do become pervasive it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► that Microsoft hates it because all the kids are gonna be doing all the work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► and Apple should hate it because kids become acclimated to the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► ecosystem which does not involve Apple and Google ecosystem in terms of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► closet I was actually pretty damn good documents you like that Google thing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► bunch of web applications lowest-common-denominator works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► everywhere all your crap saying if kids get used to that it's a short jumper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► from there to the phone earlier stops right so keeping the kids part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► keeping the kids is giving it to hold an education so far in sort of the jobs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► air it seems like Apple's approach to education has been we in if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► prestigious school if there's going to be a news story about your school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► getting fancy stuff we want to have our stuff in the prestigious school that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► Nestle the rich kids school but if the school that story worthy is it a school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► that up and coming with doing much better now is it a school they got a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► grant is it is like you wanted to be a story wanted to be like the important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► ones and then it should be significant the kids in that school and teaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► that schools should be lucky to have Apple hardware biggest fans in shining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► eyes and expensive and that's where Apple seems to be education these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► it's not so much bending over backwards with the possible exception of keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► the iPad 2 around for a long time but they're not doing stuff like more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► these two de Mac and the various maximum made just for education those were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► pretty short lived though but they would do that they would say we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► make a model of MacBook is only for education it's going to make compromises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► that work for education compromises are ways to make it cheaper sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► would be an educationally version i think is really the super cheap vimax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► writer keep him out of the strange occasions this start doing stuff for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► market but I think the days are gone with a design like the giant to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► where to look at but that hasn't put in the shower now it's a computer only ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► most of the terrible by the way but they existed and apples out there is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► computer with a different name like if not an iMac Mac Mini whatever different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► name that you can't buy your education so that I business it's funny you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► mentioned education Apple because relatively moved to Richmond one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► surrounding counties they were using iBooks and issuing I believe all middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► schoolers and high schoolers iBooks and they decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► it was cheaper in better to go with Dell's and they've been using dolls ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► since and you may have heard of this I did this was the area in which we live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► it made national news because they were selling these like 230 four-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► iBooks for 50 bucks at the NASCAR track there in downtown Richmond and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► actually like stampedes trying to beat each other up to get to the front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► line she could buy $50 four-year old iBook and that was right around where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► live and now they've news and else for years and pieces of crap all the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► are falling apart by the time they were done with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► yeah that that's what it's like buying a used police car like yours there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► reason why I used police cars usually just become the crappiest taxis for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► crappiest taxi services in the world like it is like these devices are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► flux constant heavy use for those for you if you do not want them after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► although to be fair to give to those books can you imagine a stampede for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3235">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► four year old PCs at any price no definitely not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► it's not a fashion item doesn't have the procedure so even even an out of date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► technology things so has the fashion cachet so people are interested in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► day like it's it's a good deal if you wanna make the foreign listeners the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► non-us listeners feel even more that we live in a third world country can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► describe the other common phenomenon for technologies in schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► technologies or you know tissues and paper towels which is there's no money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► in the budget for it at all the only way your school is ever going to get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► kind of technology or you know paper towels and tissues for the kids to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► is they the parents themselves to the parent teachers association or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► other like you know organization thing will raise money and the parents will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► pay for the computers for their get school and that only works for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► parents are rich so you can guess how many ppl schools have maximum schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► that are in districts where even the discs with rich people even those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► districts can't pass laws to raise taxes enough to pay for anything for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► barely can keep the buildings up you know barely can pay the teachers their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► meager salaries can't afford any computers can you want your classroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► have paper towels napkins or tissues you also have to pay for those in to drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► around this is a rich neighborhood at the state of education in our country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► that's absolutely true when I went to high school he was in Fairfield County [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► Connecticut which at the time as a county was the single most affluent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► county and in the entire country because they had a whole bunch of like silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► rich superstars that instead of living in New York they'd live in Fairfield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► County no particular town i lived in was I mean I guess reasonably affluent but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► not nothing remarkable in every spring without fail calm about March or so all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► of our Xerox paper cup machine paper it was perforated about two-thirds the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► down and then again in half and at the bottom it said Danbury Hospital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► radiology department because despite the fact that we lived in the most affluent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► county in the entire country all of the people that lived in the particular town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► we lived in didn't want to pay enough money to the schools so that we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► copied paper for the entire year and we needed to accept donations of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► crappy leftover perforated copy paper from the local hospital that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► start what it what other phone up to have one last note this is from Oliver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► agar agar apologies all over you treated at the three of us it's pretty clear now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► that both thunderbolt and lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► going to be the shortest leave ports ever I'm not agree with that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► certainly possible but I don't see lightning going away anytime soon I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► think thunderbolt is more likely to go away but I'm still skeptical that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► going to be the case what do you guys think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► thunderbolts can last as long as fire where did just that I'll be sticking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► the back and a Mac Pro and topple stops making that computer doesn't mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► gonna like Thunderbolt totally go away from the netbook Arab don't want this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► baby is like you can go away from the MacBook Air because the innovation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► Thunderbolt that was simplification hey display USB over one part but if USB 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► can do all that to her boat for gun at the very least from the small laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► probably also from the big ones because you know it's only for basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► high-speed storage like it's kind of an aberration the thunderbolt and that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► being on some of the low-end laptops because it was like we're not so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► into the high-speed storage part we like the idea that this one connector you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► carry all the sorts of stuff over you carry the display over you carry you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► anything that adapter like what kind of a shame that you know you could do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► one of the things we had to swap your stupid a program like it but you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► plug into the Thunderbolt Display and get a full complement of ports through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► one connector I see no reason that usb3 can't accept that and so then the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/3471">TS</a>]
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01:09:22 ◼ ► in the past but this set such a president of having a new version of iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4162">TS</a>]
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01:09:32 ◼ ► non nerds got really excited about that every fall now to be fair they may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► be so excited and we may not be so excited about that anymore and so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► now is the time to break that president but I'm I'm very skeptical they would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► it on iOS and I'm fairly skeptical they would they would go less frequently than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► every year I noticed head but that's certainly one answer or just buying off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► less each time you doing less new things and keeping yourself at a year release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► well so the obvious option is sitting in the notes is one that's been suggested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► by many people that I believe we talked about in the past many times this to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► to originally Intel dubbed the tick tick tock kids and which Apple has more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► defacto dubbed the blank blank cascades get the for the forest 2525 s sex but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► the ideas you have to do to release that your big release but all you fancy crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► in it and then the next one is pretty much the same as the previous one just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► modified in some ways after the four you have for us the same hardware design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► YouTube we could move the antennas around like it's not it's not entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► design and tourists and do the same thing with leopard that was a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► release and Snow Leopard is like like leopard but we just grabbed and had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► lion there's a big release and mountain lion which was supposed to be the out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► like a lion but we just personal stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► they're off that train was 10 because Mavericks in Yosemite are not related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► each other in that way I mean you're siamese radically different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► Mavericks was you could say marriage between release on its like yosemite but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► week but it's very difficult to tell because without I mean the names made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► clear with leopard Snow Leopard or lion mountain lion but you could argue like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► we did the contents of those releases reflect the naming only with Snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► Leopard Apple come out and say this is the no new features released all we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► doing is Frank doesn't even that was a lie because they had tons of internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► crap and so it was a huge underhood change just like it didn't look too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► different to users right and the big thing is if you don't add user facing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► features even if you make tons of under the hood changes you can you can lie to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► people and say no new features by basic saying no to use your facial features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► and it is known to use your expectation is that all they did was improved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► the functionality of the existing using like people weren't distracted by saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► never mind about making whatever work make this new thing where I had our work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► better whatever that is mostly I think perception issue but I think trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► achieve that perception from the customer base influences the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► engineering operating organization operates like the same way that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► you're trying to impress people do with features it influences how USS like risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► reliability or whatever if you said straight out like it's gonna be another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► new feature release that gives the engineer organization the freedom to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► make different tradeoffs internally because there's no pressure to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► with a new feature is going to be impressive in a demo because they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► already said that the public message was no new features you don't have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► that and then you can make when you make decisions about what it would mean every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► fact it would have been ripped out 12 what giant new internal framework GCD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► we're gonna add you can make all those decisions without the pressure of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► to serves on the external need to be impressive so it's it's kind of weird to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4376">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► the phone hardware has been on that came for so long but the Stone software is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► on that cadence right well and I would argue the hardware that's kind of a red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► herring like if you look at the three s releases of iPhone iPad so far the 3ds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► those were all major hardware releases the deal I guess like you know minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► revision designation is really only cosmetic in all three of those cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► like this like the the cosmetics are a huge part of the hardware design because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► its manufacturing lines it's the Tulane it's the materials it's the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► it's all that all that part of it is a huge part of the product we think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► problem is that text back soon to see beyond area right they made them a test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► things that like the targets despite a different how is this like a minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► revisions I know shared part with the previous one but that's just the guts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► the big part of these phones how do you make a million little glass aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► rectangle thing he's to the to the quality control that Apple ones and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► put a huge investment into making the production lines and and the tools and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► everything you know the materials and expertise to assemble these phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► they want to get their bang for the buck and that's it we're gonna make two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► where the phones that use the same materials assembled and more or less the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► same way with only possibly minor external changes to you know and moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► antennas and the break when said whatever you know construction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► techniques whatever they're using whatever they want two years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► value-added CPU architecture like the silicon I think that's like looks so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► can read many Reds ride but that is a separate thing but I'm saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► physical part of it is such a big part of you know physical products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► that's where they want to get the thing and like the fans like the new fab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► except when they do die during this tough but it's like once you have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► running if you give it a different design than it has a different design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► right and some of its new felt like it's not part of its not so much part of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► this the production line for particular phone i think is more still true that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► phone then production line for particular CPUs built their CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► yeah but where they're having problems is not you know my my 5s you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► parcel fit right together with the weather having problems in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► software and the little component interactions and the services like stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► that like what do you think that's harder a related like even a 64 bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► transition like I know there was there is problems like going from 32 to 64 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► 64 bit versions or buggy and stuff like that but I like you have to pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► transit him sometime they wanted to be the first out of the gate I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► they've reaped benefits of being the first but that I don't think any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► silicon based transition has been particularly killer to them know I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► just saying that like that the idea that the that the iPhone hardware is on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► tick tock cadence I would say is mostly brought that it's it is very it is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► that to tuck in San only the like physical shell away but the parts inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4555">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► seemed to change just as rapidly with every version of the iPhone regardless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► yeah I agree on that but I think the the physical shell part is a huge percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► of the hardware product and so that's why I don't think you can dismiss it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► like just cosmetic surgery the visual thing because like when you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► the physical hardware it's almost as if the silicon part is like might as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► be a separate thing like you have a certain allotted amount of space that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► you have to fit in but really the product designers at the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► designing a physical thing and by the way this little silicon sliver goes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► whatever the battery in a min I know I was not done that way whatever you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► at the parts inside their the phone is all everything else and then the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► phone phone so I just see that is deprecated in that case has not so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► I think they did change everything every year from year to year they change like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► who's going to sell us there are radio chip this year like forget about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► stuff you know who's gonna sell the display controller to see where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► battery control like from year to year just like whoever has the best chips but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► the best specs are families do custom designs itself it just changes all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► on the phones and that hasn't been you know a particular source of problems I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► think if it is we don't have an insight to know like this one phone had problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► because of some flaky chip and you didn't know about it but next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► manufacturing ironed out those problems I was working around this problem in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► this budget said you didn't open to a lot of engineering effort for Apple iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► 10 people you know the mech lines change much more slowly in a much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► predictable way with you know going into the movie Intel chipsets benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► available for them to go in to go into and I think the OS 10 cadence like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► Apple's just chasing itself chasing its own tail or someone said like jason said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► they're chasing iOS was like well that's just teasing yourself because they are I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► can make the decision of how to move along with two things against each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► but I think that type of Katie's formalize the type of kid is formalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► in a reason you had to formalize it is like perception PR like a few formalize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► it like intel the Intel formalized it too because they recognize that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► just do this internally kind of sort of secretly then the marketing PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► organization still have to come up with some reason why everything is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► every single year whereas if you if you announce this is this is our new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► strategy for the foreseeable future then only every other year you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► impress everyone seems to all this is this is the year where they just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► stuff work better and that becomes a story in itself and people like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► customers like it and you don't get the bad stories about well as WBC but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► didn't have any new features you just know this is a talker but never always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► forget that every time you know it seems like it's always it's the opposite of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► what you think like the tip I think the tickets the minor one yeah talking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► allowed one because it's I don't know those makes us tick tock cadence Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► has has considered and sort of played around with in the past and continues to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► play around with arguably be part of the hardware side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► I think that has the best sort of you know the best features of any solution I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► can think of in the city solution people they should be more careful new stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► better like us on a solution right because because of the external effects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► of this because it is a thing that you announced to the world and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► announcement frees up things inside your organization to act in a way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► wouldn't be able to if you try to do it only has an internal you know I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► something earlier today that I thought was really fascinating for bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► reasons but it's relevant here on objective CIO they had an interview with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► Andy to Shaq I'm so sorry for any way he used to work on you like it if memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4794">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► serves and they had an interview with him and the question that they asked was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► what effect he thinks with will have on Apple's framework API's do you expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► something here in the short term and is the answer is very interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► relevant I don't actually have insider knowledge here so this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► speculation but I think it will be a long process at least when I was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► the team spent the majority of their time not maintaining and improving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► frameworks but really supporting market features like new screen sizes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► support for new hardware that's what takes most of the time so it will take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► conscious decision to do anything non trivial and I don't see that forthcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► yet that actually that actually marriage will be heard when somebody who works on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► my work written to us a couple of maybe a month or two ago now who wrote in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► because we were talking about how we're talking reclaim my work and how like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► there seems to be working on it for years and all the sudden get their act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► together and this prisoner in basically said that's not the case that instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► the team is constantly working on it but that I work always has to show off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► latest and greatest OS features and directions of the company's sharing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► cloud platforms and everything and so they're constantly having to keep up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► with the new marketing features and and the new directions of things like iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► instead of working on the core product functionality so it's actually very that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► it sounds like this is possibly affecting many parts of apple and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► this is like their their market features are are moving so quickly and are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► aggressive that the rest of the engineering department is is maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► able to keep up with things like quality and long-term future maintenance is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► there are certainly sounds right to me one thing to give me hope here image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► this on the talk shows will be quick but the lodges gonna be where Apple focuses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► most of their PR for the next little while and you know we'll see how it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► how long that lasts maybe the watch is going to be the primary focus of Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► of Apple's marketing for the next year or two or three I don't know but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► that that might help take some of the marketing burden off of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► products and so maybe by focusing so much on the launch and and first watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► kids stuff and then later on the native SDK in the second generation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► watch hardware maybe that will be such the focus of the marketing that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► like the Mac was kind of playing second fiddle when the iPhone came out maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► the watch will then make the iPhone and iPad and Mac now it'll give them like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► break for a little while from being in the spotlight and give them a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► stabilize the whole idea of like having to support new hardware factors are new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► API's UAB as you have a little more control over you can just lay off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► mat but new hardware features that kind of gets back to what kind of company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► Apple is they're trying to make trying to make entire products hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4974">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► software integrated and trying to improve both aspects of that and it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► seems like hardware like I wanna make a nicer phone or laptop like to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► better product or whatever and that thing I was just talking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► changing the chipset to use for your radios are the manufacturers for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► your power controller your display controller instead of just changed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► all the time because you want to get the one thats the best features the lowest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► power the best contract deal for parts and all these other things that change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► your year I can imagine what the time being spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► sporting that is why can't you guys just pick one manufacturer for like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► you know whatever i/o controller for for iOS devices and keep it for one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► years in a row so that we can do something else or display controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► like that would make their lives easier but it would mean well but the new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► is slightly lower power and has this extra little feature and we can combine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► these two things one chip and it's like if we don't do that if we try to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5036">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► easier for the software guys by trying to make a stable like a more stable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► platform kind of like being tailed you know motherboard Intel based motherboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► chipsets are a little bit more stable than the other guys will have a letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► from that then we will every year we have to be better better battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► but everything like I think the screen size changes that is a big hassle for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► them to do but part of that is like they're paying the price for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► experience in doing the original version of iOS like let's just get it working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► this one phone like they didn't do it and read it but was forced to do which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► is let's make it let's try to make a generic framework for doing you I on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► variable screen sizes and Apple it's like we're at the edge of what is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► possible just make it work on the original iPhone that is the mandate no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► matter what you have to do and so they paid the price and they reap the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► benefits of being the first person with the iPhone that no one else could think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► was possible and then prices the engineering compromises you had you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► their menu long road ahead of you to be able to support a resolution is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5096">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► arbitrary screen sizes like it so that how many years has it taken to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► where we are now with multiple screen sizes in auto layout and all the scaling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► and the high res screens like it was very much unlike OS 10 wherein the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► beginning of August and they had this model of what the future of this place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► is going to be like and the high-end hardware will be there to support it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► it was terrible and just like we just got a hold on for like six more years in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► this crap will work right and even then they're doing you know do some fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► large architectural changes to get stuff off the CPU and GPU so there's that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► know everything in engineering software engineering the tradeoff and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► think what we see now and this whole idea of the UI get people spending the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► time like treading water into market could use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► is the result of Engineering tradeoffs made many many years earlier just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► of coming home to roost now it makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► alright thanks a lot for three sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► Squarespace igloo and fracture and we will see you next week now the show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5155">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► over they didn't even mean to be in accidental John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5163">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► hundred episodes in the back so how about the Detroit Auto Show did anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► happen to the trade show other than the 40 D Dennis X never knew better and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► pictures it like what was new that we learned about the NSI news I'm asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► about the NSX twin-turbo v-6 we learn to get to know what we do know that already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► I don't keep up with cuz I don't drive a Honda but I didn't I didn't know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► didn't know for sure would be made engine although it's a safe assumption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► in today's meeting engines you to know we've seen final pictures of the NSX for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► like what seems like a year now if you look at the car ready to put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► engine really see ya know if I'd like more or less the complete and aspects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► like maybe with my counselor about like we've known what but the scars and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► like for a long time I guess I just don't follow honda's closely as you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► john why I don't follow it all but I do know it was like it was a year ago he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► said this is the new OS X and they were still like drawings then you get to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► the one with the camouflage paint all over it and I guess now this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► person receiving the woman like you know painted and presented the way to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► but you know what I did like is on their interim video switch to my I looked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► hundred percent CGI good CGI but it looked like to me anyway it looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► it was completely CGI on the bottom of this CGI video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► NSX driving around it said professional driver closed doors and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► completely fabricated video or if it wasn't it was very poorly recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► because it looked at and watch the video little kid playing with the toy old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► could be real to me I mean may be modified after the fact I just thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5335">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► that was funny new 4G T looks good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► ivanisevic CDT makes me uncomfortable because I don't like the idea of driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► nostalgia Nostalgia of installing two-degree that has been practiced by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► USR makers over the past likes a decade where they make like all make the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► Mustang and make it look like a modernized version of a particular model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► which usually makes it look worse they all look good if you live in the South [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► but I agree with you that this whole idea is getting pretty pleased now feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► like it's okay to be inspired by cars of the past but you have to know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► inspired is like a style parody we're like a stopper like you're taking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► like the ford et you read example like the the previous ford et EDT for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► anything right that like it's like the same freaking cars the old was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5395">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► you know it up into modern like they're taking the same design is not inspired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► by it the same design this new one is more different but still i mean we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► no car was I know someone right now is is riding an angry email that mentions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► the word 911 right we understand 911 you know like Volkswagen Beetle for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► matter but like I feel like the 911 has come by that honestly I never moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► away from that the 911 is a Volkswagen Beetle you know but you know me like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► is it is not every year they just changed a little bit a little bit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► little bit yeah they all the same and it's all the same family resemblance but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► it's not like like the Beatles great because the beetle was the beetle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► then there was a large gap of time they made the new beetle which was exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► the same you know it's like let's make a modern version of the old be all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► and then they have the new version of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► the 911 every single revision was just like a little changed a little changed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► little changes just never drifted too far right I feel like that is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► honest than waiting for a huge gap of time and then making a new card looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► like an old don't like new cars that are modern versions of all cars already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► entered the tournament a mix of like well this this grill is reminiscent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► the grill on the bubble blogs tales that is more appropriate don't just make me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► new version but I have said the new det moves farther away from the old ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► still kinda see the gt40 and all the press is under there I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► what is the pillar right behind the door the b-pillar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► yes from the b-pillar to the front it looks almost identical but from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► people to the back looks totally different and the thing is it's a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► looking car all versions that the original one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► the gt40 from like a decade ago or whatever and the new crazy looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► all you've got that backwards it's the GTE from a decade ago and the gt40 from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► the sixties or seventies whatever was to you think these are good looking cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► but I thought we needed the revision when it was called the GI remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► this is the one that Clarkson had that was from like the early two thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► just called the details on that that's just the 4G T [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► the original one that started it all the sixties and seventies whatever it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► that was the gt40 I'm pretty sure about this these are hideous I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► the new aspects of the new deal looks I think very nice and I think it's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► the design of the open actually Aegis fairly well for a car that's designed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► was designed as long ago as it was you know I'm not excite me I was never a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► huge anal sex person I never got into high-end cars back then so you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► don't really have any nostalgia that way but late Jimmy btw is is at least like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► continuing what it has been more easily the NSX like this car was gone for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► long time and now bring it back but it's like to me this is kind of like bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► about to check for a second please get me out of this terrible car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► conversations these cards you care about but the it kinda like the new Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► movie with early I am NOT excited about the new Star Wars movie because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► inherently because it is Star Wars make it can I get can I make some popcorn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► excited about the old Star Wars movies I like them I was never that obsession [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► them but I like them but to me like calling this an NSX and calling the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► Star Wars movie star wars is really just like it's like a licensing the name it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► it's a branding thing is not cause it's totally different people working on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► yes of course but the people who work on the new Mustang Mustang are you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► use the Mustang it's a franchise but every Mustang doesn't have to look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► a particular past models I'm not talking about appearance I'm talking more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► Lake spirit nudey so like making a new Star Wars movie today vs making a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► Star Wars movie in 50 years whenever in with the first one is dead is is it any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► different really like it you're just taking the name I know but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► it's been gone for long enough in the market moved on so many ways and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► sure the people of Honda have changed a little bit since then I I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► worth we're talking about brand names the city to wait the way that companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► lawyers aqua brand names as this as if they have some kind of like a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► significance with what the protocol actually be like and the fact is it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► a nameplate on this is just a nameplate on Star Wars it it doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► normally not there is no relation between the 911 today and then I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► I love you keep calling it the Mustang keep calling it the Comerica point the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► Corvette that's how car labels work is not an aberration right the m5 is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► abomination compared to the AM one that originally started the whole a moniker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► or even just m5 compared and 5's greatest empire three generations ago if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► I wanted to share just the m5 just waited like that's how economy works I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► don't begrudge that at all what I complain about is when you make way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► the styling specifically when you pick a particular old car and you say make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► modern version of that way you don't even make selling cars purchased like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► you know a complete facsimile in the Mustang is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► and I think they've done a little to do jawed Dodge Charger like I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► that it's like it's like saying we can't figure out how we made it to the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► once in the sixties seventies we can't figure out how making good looking car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► again so does make us a modern version of the car to be made it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► good-looking normally I told the group that is that is what it is and normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► wow you know look at look at how ugly the American cars but honestly I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► imagine what accurate thinking with their starting over the last decade or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► so either like two peas are both hit his car styling and I'm kind of disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► that there aren't more cues from the old Saxon the new like I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► need to make a modernized version but just take some cues like the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► the kidneys are cue thank you so much for the kidneys and BMW you don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► because it looks as though I know BMW for two decades ago something like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► styling elements should be some commonalities thaliana for example the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► modern Cadillac takes it too far when the current look like each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► exactly but the styling on this is so dominant in there so repeated every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► where that is a sameness to the Nats Park although that cts-v what is at six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► hundred and change horsepower speaking of ugly cars they've always been ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► the ATS if you don't want that the fact that they look they look to have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► guys seen the new Lexus m3 know it's rough alexis has been rough I know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► like you know let's let's just a starting was always very comfortable if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► you want to drive like an upscale marshmallow for old people and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► there's purpose that's a perfectly valid marketed in very well there and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► well deserved but they with their new like sport a flying or whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► like they're trying to get in on the BMW territory about the sport sedans and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► my god they're hideous in person I I hope you get a chance to see one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► oh my goodness they they are rough the it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► hit so so bad are you talking about I'm recognize that likes this mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► well known as Lexus answer to the m3 so I think it's the ISF it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► it's like the F Sport version verdi RCF RCI the big game car I know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► RCF yes you're right you're right it's the RCF now it used to be the ISF its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► family is it heavy because all all the reviews I've read if it is just like him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► too much weight you know I can't get out of its own way like it it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► really bad iteration of the GDR it is I'm talking about I'm seeing it and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► I believe I am I wrong today I think they also have added like F Sport trim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► levels to a lot of other models that doesn't sound like anything I'm familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► with it's it's it's the same thing and it was a BS in the BMW polls every every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► luxury car makers should have this thing you know the AMG model or receive these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► kids have to have the LG Mobile also the black men sport an M and BMW had to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► the AM in this paper we get them support and so like this is the same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► Infinity is taking too long to figure out what they're going to do I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► alexis y settling on the F out he has the IRS and the the the S S model and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► then they then the IRS model so you do need these levels in this is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► the thing the luxury car makers do these days I'm glad like this is found 1 I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► said that whenever they had after their mouths that makes them did you also see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► that BMW at a pretty big presence at CES actually yeah I was interesting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► showing off like you know not only there like their version of car but also their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► gesture interface their back seat Samsung tablets and all sorts of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► stuff at what what annoys me most about their about what they showed off their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► is that almost none of it is anything I would actually want and much of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► think was a step backwards like the the the big lake that the key fob with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► screen on it but extremely thank you thank god that will always be like $1000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► as I'm never buying that option because like the last thing you want is your key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► fob to get bigger and it there already so big with their already so chunky in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► your pocket if you don't have to look at it in there I was gonna look at it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► won't be able to do it in your pocket just like this I need to do with it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► communication be anybody gonna open the trunk seal the region and press the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► little things that attract you shouldn't have to look at the screen and why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► you want your key fob to have another battery draining feature on it that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► terrible idea it's just so many bad ideas about that you'll be able to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► new battery for you get the battery replaces dealer over $700 John Woo's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► name of the memory stick for the Dreamcast that had a little display on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► it VMU visual memory unit yeah yeah that's what it reminds me of a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► yeah well that's true the BMU had like one of those god-awful awake original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► GameBoy style screens but unfortunately that benefit from being somewhat more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► them that's also true but we are denied just thought it was interesting seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► that BMW took CSO seriously I don't I still don't totally understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► shouldn't even say totally I still don't understand the laser headlights I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► i mean i i read that they're more directional so they can leave a gap for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► like people in other cars on the road there lasers Casey what more do you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► to know many LEDs are cool enough any more like a diva once market do you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► out that it's possible to use lasers for life like that I don't care what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► takes I don't care if they're worse in every possible way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► laser light that strip but I did see also that they have a LED taillamps now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► or they're they're trying them which I thought was very peculiar like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6056">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► really sure why one would want that but I'm sure there's a good reason I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► think enough to make them and therefore more light out but maybe an hour to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► their little power but I think it's a big deal for bragging rights but yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► know im looking to the NSIC it's not too terrible like that that has the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► that I have had a cheese grater knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► at the beach from from the head on right and I think a lot of cars have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► bit of a nose problem lately too but it's fairly restrained like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► headlights aren't bad little scoop some insider ok the back as we think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► restricted yeah compared to compared to the compared to the new 4G team looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► like well yeah it's ridiculous or even just the Corvette but compared to good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► taste none of these are good examples including the new Corvette by the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► looks like a writer as a yes I know when I read everything on her bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6116">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► the new Corvette is argumentative writing the new Corvette is by far the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► best looking one on the back of a Corvette is worse than the back of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► everything went into parking lot of terrible it's like it's like a unibrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► taxes it's like I just because it's a little bit puffy and there's not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► of the old as the GTE is like empty and fissures in the previous beauty which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► was a pumped up version of the original duty and none of these cars look as nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► as anything except for the driving the Ferrari Ferrari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► though the one with four-wheel drive that looks like a shoe is not the FAF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► yea thats four-wheel-drive was weird that she see how that worked we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► about that at some point yeah it is weird didn't it suck it suck I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► know what do you think anyone's ever driven in the snow yet nobody it basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6176">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► tenets have like a second drive shaft coming up the front of the motor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► really weird layout yeah that one even that one if you look at the back of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► car in the front of the front of the car is much nicer but I think they're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► me hate like a regular shape version of eighty-nine like hatchback or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► you want to call the thing so it's basically a so you gonna have to 12 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTO0C7c/6201">TS</a>]