00:00:00 ◼ ► to me forget T-shirts like I made the mistake of using my system I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/0">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► restoring T-shirts is like my nerdy shirts gone hangers instead of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► folded up and I figured let's find a bike too nerdy shirts now a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/8">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► their teachers in the half my closet Isner t shirts on hangers I just spaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/13">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► we should probably actually start the show so we have some follow-up from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/19">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► the way across the planet in Australia Jon Lajoie to tell us about what way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/26">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► Australia that this is the best theory I've heard so far although it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/30">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► kind of vague in shaky based on fake products and members of why a 12 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/34">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► MacBook Air might only have one USB port on it instead of 22 hotties I can't wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/41">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► for the Sun to come out so we can stop talking about it the worst part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/47">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► room with Retina screen really involved through it like one part why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/50">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► do that on purpose and then I just do I need to have a reason because it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/56">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► make any sense otherwise so this is about the PCI Express Lanes how many PCI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/62">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► Express lanes are supported by Karim chipset that we assume this fake product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/67">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► will use and according to wait from Australia it supports two lanes of PCI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/72">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► Express 4 gigabytes per lane so that means you need more than two lanes per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/77">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► USB 3.0 Unported you want the full speed which I would assume they do so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/83">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► start adding up the parts you end up like with one lane for the pci-express [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► SSD and 14 like wi-fi Bluetooth and stuff like that and you can get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/91">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► chipset with different combinations of lanes and waves speculation is that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/97">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► you can get everything in four lanes then you don't have to you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/101">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► chipset the just as those for means you don't need to spend power like pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/107">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► other lanes for devices like in other words you can shut down some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/110">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► so you're going to need more than forces single lanes just 44 USC 351 you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/114">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► really enjoy that and you more further radios and SSD you already at five if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/121">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► you want to add another part you have to bump it up at this from 528 I guess I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/126">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► this depends on do you really get a big power savings from keeping it at or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/130">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► under for a tour under five like is there a point at which you have to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/134">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► like the the power budget takes a leap you know does not scale linearly so PCI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/139">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► Express lanes are sort of the the currency the internals of modern max in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/144">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► terms of how many do you have and then what can you spend them on and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► like that because you know once you're out of them you're you're out of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► and i think is that a USB 3.0 is not built into the chipset that's why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/156">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► need to use PCI Express it's not an integrated into the chipsets so I i buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/161">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► more of these theories because it plays into hardware constraints that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/169">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► doesn't have control over and also power saving but you know it's speculated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/173">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► machine from a mock up and we don't know exactly what contrast that you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/178">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► know what kind of crazy stuff that Apple has inside their laptops again with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/182">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► history of the repackaged chip in the original MacBook Air who's to say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/186">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► things that are offered by Intel right now are the things to constrain Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/190">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► specifically so we'll wait and see I don't I don't think we've ever actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/194">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► seen correct me if I'm wrong but it's not my head here I don't think we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/198">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► ever actually seen Intel give Apple access to a 28 chipset or even a chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/202">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► itself that wasn't available on the market with the one exception of the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► of the day but that was only a that was like a physical repackaging but to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/212">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► the pins smaller but like the chip the die was still the same as what everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/216">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► else was getting some apple would be willing to put another chip on the board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/220">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► that's not part of Intel's chips the chips that has this and then we buy from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/224">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► whatever other we are manufacturer that we have some relationship with for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/227">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► hardware something this other chip they give them into have to add a chip anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/231">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► for through the USB 3 controller and so who is making that controller chip for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/235">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► them they could probably get that company to make a special trip just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/239">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► and I don't know like I'm not willing to rule out almost anything because Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/243">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► has such incredible volumes and such leverage with with chip makers that data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/248">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► marlys can make Intel do special things for them but at this point I could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/253">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► look at the IRS program everything who has been leaning on Intel so hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/256">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► many many years to improve their GPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/260">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► I would attribute a lot of Intel's recent GB you focus on the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/264">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► Apple said that it needs from them and his influence their multi-year up they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► don't get it exclusively everybody gets it but that kind of focus and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/272">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► that you know these chip shop and apples machines I would assume there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/276">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► influence there in terms of what Intel decides to make so we also had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/280">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► feedback about from Tom holiday he had said that the rumor twelve-inch lack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/287">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► Thunderbolt sorrows me the MacBook Air + 27 inch Thunderbolt Display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/294">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► configuration allows sessile components I've never heard that word that's a wrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/298">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► and I thought was a typo for several it's not a word that's a safety word of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/304">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► an organism for example in trying to call in one place or in mobile got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/310">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► covered I learned that word as a description of my friends cat when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/316">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► in high school there was the SATs word association and candaces ok so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/320">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► medicare plus 27 inch display configuration allows us all components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/328">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► like external hard drive scanners and printers and a 27 inch display to be set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/332">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► up for the desktop while the MacBook routines portability i put this in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/336">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► notes because we talked about this in the past shows but that all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/340">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► that you get out of standard both in terms of having multiple devices going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/347">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► you could approximate them you get you get the display you get the USB you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/352">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► a USB type of thing you can connect you know you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/358">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► hard drives through USB and I'm gonna be may be as nice as fanciest under about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/362">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► this but the question that I had just brought to mind is to this meaning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/367">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► Apple comes out with this thing in your thunder bolt is off most of the machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/372">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► ever revise their stupid monitors does the next equivalent of the Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/377">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► Display try to replace the Thunderbolt Display with one that connects just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/382">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► three USB or is that not something they're interested in any more because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/388">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► use the same arrangement like you have a portable machine you plug one cable into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► it and then you have all the other ports don't sit on the laptop and it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/395">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► nice arrangement that will go away with this unless Apple comes out with a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/399">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► display that's like their USB hub display where you know the the extra a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/403">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► modest one cable you plug it in and you get a USB however you can put up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/408">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► your hard drives and everything and you also get the display obviously no cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/412">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► and I would certainly hope that they would because I have lost it after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/415">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► Thunderbolt Display since it was a thing like two or three years now right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/420">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► anyway I've wanted one so badly but I'm Way too cheap to buy one and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/425">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► hope that they would still do this kind of a set up but I am extremely skeptical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/429">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► that they would do this kind of a setup because Apple just i mean when is Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/434">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► ever really believed in in a docking station there was that one word like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► the whole entire folded up laptop slid into a dime steven hack it is furious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/441">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► right now I don't remember the name of 20 doc thank you but I mean other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► that we're talking seasons not really a thing which is actually kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/450">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► frustrating to me because I work in an office full of Dell's where they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► have these docking stations which are aesthetically hideous but functionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► awesome and I kind of wish that my Mac would do something so hard but yeah i i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/460">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► and I don't see them really putting too much effort into that well I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/466">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► answer to that is those like bucket and motorboat docks things but nobody really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/470">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► buys those far as I can tell they're so expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/474">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► 200 bucks down from 300 but still it's dole out but still like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/477">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► I think if this was a direction Apple's going with all of their laptops they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/482">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► might be concerned with things like this but for this one model I don't think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/488">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► need to read too much into it again and again assuming it's all correct with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/492">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► these rumors but I don't read too much into it because you guys are all talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/496">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► about from the perspective of people who use laptops much of the time or most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/501">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► the time as desktops with a bunch of stuff put into them and and have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/505">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► these heavy external needs I think it's I think it's a good idea for most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/508">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► Apple's laptops to cater to that because that is probably how most laptops that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► are soldier actually used especially with power user to defend and might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/517">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► an extra monitor stuff but I think there is nothing wrong with Apple having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/522">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► model in the lineup that does not cater to being plugged into stuff all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/527">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► that that won't won't be good at that I mean the original MacBook Air was awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/532">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► about that the newer and newer ones only got better because of Thunderbolt I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/536">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► think there is nothing there's nothing saying that Apple needs to solve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/541">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► problem of lots of good external bandwidth or or external Porsche Riley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/546">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► that with this model of MacBook I think they could be just fine with this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/550">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► mostly mostly made to be portable to not be used while plugged into my stuff most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/554">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► of the time you know I think you might be onto something there because now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/559">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► I'm thinking about my own example of work and docking stations I think a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/563">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► of the reason that we have the docking stations everywhere in dual monitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/567">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► everywhere is just because it's nice to have it but for non developers my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/571">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► company that I work for is probably half business consultants in half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/576">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► technical consultants like myself for the for the business folks I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/582">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► they'd like having a second monitor but I i would guess that most of them would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/586">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► tell you will you know if it went away whatever in so if I think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/590">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► typically they're not plug in an external hard drive typically they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/595">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► not plugging in Ethernet typically they they're not plug in an external monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/598">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► and just happens to be sitting there so generally speaking a lot of these folks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/602">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► all they plug in his power to your point Marco and that's it in so what it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/606">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► this hyper portable computer only can take power in one other thing maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/611">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► you know that this MacBook Air two things about it like potentially can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/616">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► they just have one mile on line one I think the rumor maybe not this specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/622">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► Aurora talking about the 925 macklin but for the past few years it was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► 1130 going later would just be replaced by a single 12 if that ends up being in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/629">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► the case it's fine for them to have one model they would be like this but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/634">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► you're replacing two models with it it seems weird that you know to the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/638">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► who wanted something ultraportable and you don't care about the ports 11 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► make sense and for the people want a bigger sort of more full size laptop of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/645">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► their teenage but if your place them both with the 12 it's kind of weird for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► it to say that all you you can use this one like you like to revert to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/652">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► original MacBook Air but there is an advantage to not using thunderbolt and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/656">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► it has to do with the annoying nature of thunder bolt size we have a wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/662">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► display here and a MacBook Air and it's got the little little squid type cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/666">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► coming out the end of it where it's got the MagSafe power thing to power your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/672">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► laptop from the monitor and it also has the Thunderbolt cable and part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/676">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► that they made the little squid tentacles too short so there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/681">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► they're on opposite sides of the MacBook Air yet to put the Thunderbolt on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/685">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► left side facing you and then the power under whatever the opposite wall on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/688">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► right and the terrible connected because it has a chip in the connector itself it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/693">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► sticks out like an interim the computer with this big you know inflexible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/699">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► the hard plastic part of the connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► and it's just not it's not great like the cables have sharp angles and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/706">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► makes the thing wider it's it's not nice looking with the USB thing even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/712">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► it can't do all the things that Thunderbolt can do one the cable won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/716">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► have a giant inch long hard plastic connector thing yet but it could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/721">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► much smaller more flexible thing and to it they combine the power with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/725">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► you also need to have the split squad thing where you have the magazine on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/730">TS</a>]
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00:30:55 ◼ ► stylus which is something different so what are we gonna do a stylist right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► use a stylus know why the stylist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► you have to give them and put them away he loses nobody wants a stylist so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► not use the stylus if you see a stylist then what is it they were to fail if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► need a stylist you've already failed the point is one of the more reliable supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► chain I guess analysts say because i dont no hito term but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► has said that the next iPad to the 30 13 inch iPad will have an optional stylist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► and I don't think that most of us would have paid too much attention to this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1898">TS</a>]
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00:31:47 ◼ ► unbelievably good track record which makes me think ok maybe this is real so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► i cant i dont own any stylized styluses for my iPad I've never gotten any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► them really had a particular need forum I've tried the paper pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► I got one of those do it sits in a drawer it seemed cool I guess but I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► just not one that needs a stylist so I don't think I can really comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► intelligently on this it sounds like Marco you have a bunch and has he spoken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► family of the cosmonaut the past rate yeah and of all the one they have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► my favorite one for general use of the if you if you use paper a lot like the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► paper by 43 if you use that Apple up for artistic purposes and sketching purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► their stylist offer some features in that app that that other ones won't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► the paper pencil for general use around the iPad I don't think the pencil is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► better than nothing about the same if not a little bit of a weird shape and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► it's the thing is the reason why it's a big deal of Apple makes one of these is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► because of Apple makes a stylist it's not going to be a $25 capacitive foam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► tip stick the way all the other ones are it's going to be integrated with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► with the OS and hardware so right now the reason why this the style I on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► market generally all suck or or that they've they've basically hit a wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► that they can't get any better than this is because to get better than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► that you need system wide recognition of Bluetooth and more precision on the tip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► and so certainly like the the paper but 53 stylist I think that is pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► it is believed that some kind of are you must be so that is Bluetooth but it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► works in their app and it's still under music can be because you need is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► you the app has to try to do things like reject part deciding upon touching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► screen not count that as a touch and things like that and and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► low-level OS frameworks for touch recognition have way more recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► and win more data to work with than what exposed to absent a public API eyes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► so if Apple did this at the system level they cannot only use Bluetooth or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► other kind of short-range Aref thing people do but they could not only use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2042">TS</a>]
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00:34:12 ◼ ► precision and it would be it would be able to tie in with the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2052">TS</a>]
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00:34:21 ◼ ► which their party styles can do really very well or or everywhere right now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► Apple makes one day might even if this if this is going to be a big deal they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2067">TS</a>]
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00:34:37 ◼ ► touchscreen our least be able to put a layer like that I'd like what the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2077">TS</a>]
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00:35:09 ◼ ► appreciated and and the iPad really doesn't do a very good job at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► because of the imprecision and limitations of the styles are available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► and I think they probably should do this I think there there's there's a market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2120">TS</a>]
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00:36:30 ◼ ► urs simulating a finger and the OS is made four fingers and simulated fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► are real fingers of racist about your fingers in the big squishy things there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► in precise about what comes out with a stylist not only that a deal Bluetooth I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► think they have to do something different with the screen like I said if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► you look at the huge number of patents that come out of Apple Apple patents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► million things I mean they're gonna make anything but I think in the case of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► stylist even if we didn't see any patents I would think that a stylist is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► going to eventually come on we get to that point and a plus tons of patents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► related to sales is your style or whatever the plural that was caused it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► to be awkward for the whole time we talk about this please if you took Latin high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► school don't write and I don't we don't care anyway I also took last night why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► would they have all those pants usually their patents are about like well user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► interface stuff like maybe they tried this user interface and it wasn't great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► they did ship but they gonna patty pan everything you plan anything you do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► the number of styles related patents that have come out of Apple over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► years shows that they've had people doing stuff related to styluses our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► like why the still die while those guys still doing that it's not like they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► try this experiment 1 year after he have two year people are into an elaborate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► his Elastix doing stuff and maybe they hate all those maybe everything they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► found something that not going to make but someone is being employed at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► to do stuff that produces things that are patentable related to drawing with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► stick on a screen so it seems to me that that is definitely something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2275">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► they're working on not just once but over the years and they're eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► going to get something they like maybe not this year maybe next year but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► think it's inevitable and if they don't they don't hurry up like the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► getting of the you know the cachet with the artists because finally it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► portable tablet type thing that had the hardware support for a decent stylist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► interface if Apple doesn't do it soon enough eventually is going to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► well every artist knows that if you if you want to do are on the road you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► to get america service because you're not going to use the classic lingered at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► scribbled on iPad right so I would say now is the correct time for them to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► something I hope they do something that is at least as good as what the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► does and I'm really hoping that at least one or two of those weird patents or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► something we haven't seen before because pants take a long time to come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► something they haven't even seen its patent-pending will provide interfaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► even better now the kind of these scary ghost floating around this has nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► to do a drawing pretty pictures on your iPad has everything to do with the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► thing that you might do with a pen or pencil already implemented a flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► surface which is write letters and that's you know has been characterized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► as an a/b and Apple has big scary I grackles all over this topic but Satan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► thing is once you once you ship once you make a stylist and you're able to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► know do find out with it or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► are you going to say no you can't write notes that will translate into text i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► mean that's one way to get out of it just to avoid entirely say it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► hard right now if you could write words but it was a state like we won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► translate into text but but I think there's no way for them to avoid having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► to resurrect and finally defeat the ghosts of the news by doing handwriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► recognition that is not embarrassing and I think the technology is there to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► and I think they have to support system wide a nice way and I think very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► people use the biggest who likes writing with a pen and pencil everyone who likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► riding you know just fine but I really really feel like I mean I don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► that much either but that's a pretty big group that does is that hit his thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► what context are you going to use it I can imagine using it for things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► checking things off or scribbling a quick will know that bring up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► keyboard to type things out but I can't imagine someone using it to do text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► messages or write a long email or something and maybe that's just me maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► maybe just don't see that anymore but like if you're gonna ride along unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► it does because people are really fast with those who have you liked it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► hand and running unless they tackle Chris if people are jerks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► just do a long do i how long handwritten letter increase of having translate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► into text for you but having really good stylist support in this day and age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► you've let them write in cursive and just send it as a giant image like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► can do that now you couldn't it wasn't an option before you had to translate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► the text I think now this beautiful handwriting you know that people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► you know they want to convey their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► you want to see someone wearing one I just transferred as you know vector or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► bitmap or something like that why do you have to turn it takes I guess after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► injection make it searchable and so on and so forth and I don't know where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► go this but I think the the Art angle as a slam-dunk they're gonna do it going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► be good I hope it doesn't happen this year they better hurry up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► and then the handwriting thing I have no idea what they're gonna do when I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► all sorts of crazy pitfalls there I think the opportunity as its big I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► be surprised if anybody at apple with with the ability to make such a decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► would would restrict or stay away from these areas because of the noon I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► they just don't care anymore that was so long that was ancient history and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► public most of the public doesn't even remember the news and doesn't even care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► about and that's they way because of the Newton but because it's still hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► problem like look at like the severest does it now Microsoft does it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► do obviously better than the noon right away more computing power and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► been doing it for like a decade it might have been doing it for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► they end its and their version is pretty good it's good but it's like here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► thing with its not so people don't need to remember the news just like it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► hard enough problem kind of like a lot of the stuff and fortunately we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► gonna talk about this week but I don't think it is a time to watch it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► know the windows 10 announcement and the holographic style or in the past the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► connector whatever things that are that was real things that really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► problems that make a really awesome tech demo to make you feel like you're living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► in the future but if they don't deliver on it like if they if they don't cross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► the threshold I kind of like have Siri didn't cross the threshold in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► beginning of like well demos well but doesn't quite work for you enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► I'm just gonna give up on it and that came up again because they are jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► was talking about how serious gotten much better and that went around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► sort of Apple married sites this past week or so by the way about that so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► sorry for so I I have not used here in a long time because it just never works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2575">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► for me like the reliability was so bad for so long ago stopped trying but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► would say I would say complete command would sit there and has been for 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► seconds and then say I'm sorry I can't help you right now there's been an area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► so I stopped trying after seeing all these things about Syria my garden maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► first thing I try yesterday serious about the stopwatch sorry Marco I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► help you with the stopwatch it can do everything else on the clock app it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► really come on that's this is easy stuff why why but at least it worked you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► it is understood well and give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► a reasonable answer but it's similar in that like serious kind of bad or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► kind of voice recognition thing you just let a kid use it and you'll see other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► guys like as soon as you start talking to it and it talks back to you people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► like oh I guess this is a complete human and if it doesn't exactly what I say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► consider it stupid right and then running and running right mission as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► similar as soon as it changes anything you right into text you like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► understands handwriting and then you write something else and it doesn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► like this thing is stupid because you're only your only analog for something they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► understand spoken text and can read handwriting is other human body can read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► this word on the shopping list why couldn't you read this one it's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► no you know took to a human being and you can be one of those words you can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► both like this one is not incredibly sloppier than the other but to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► computer which is not like a human not even close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► you know it's not even at the level like a kindergarten student terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► recognizing letters just as a bunch of heuristics as soon as they get tripped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► up by things that make no sense to you because you have no idea how it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► recognized you also have no idea how your own recognizance or just works on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► us right there are our brains just where that's the real it just works right we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► can be taught to read and write it just works right for the most part in most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► people I still can't read all discursive cardigan from Old people you got people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► are out of practice you've got people with terrible handwriting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► handwriting recognition is a promise that if you don't pass a certain bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► it's like that that's why I think the bitmap thing is a way out because maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► you tried to him right direction even if you do it better than Microsoft's don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► think that's below the minimum that will be acceptable by the general public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► where people say oh and understand your handwriting what they'll say instead is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► sometimes it kinda understands your handwriting which is not a ringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► endorsement but if you can use it to send it maps of your writing about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► only problem is the person on the other end can read your writing and we've all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► had that where you know a spouse writes a shopping list for you and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► make out whatever the last word is you're not sure if it's like carrots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► cucumbers or something with the sea in a bunch of squiggles so if if humans can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► do it sometimes you know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► I think that is a difficult thing it and really talk about tablets here I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► imagine someone doing it on the phone but once you have it working on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► tablet do you put it in the six plus a little place to put a stylist or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► something would would you see I mean I know people see this now someone with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► you know the Galaxy Note or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► holding a big giant phone and stabbing it with a pencil thing my own mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► uses a little fake finger thing to stabbed her iPod Touch some people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► want to poke something with the stick with it with the stylist obviously not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► fun I have I have my father-in-law uses iPad very often with the cosmonauts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► keep he prefers to interact with that way to stepping you know you a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► everything I totally get that and I i think you know the the era of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► sticking with a very small product line you know I don't think they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► holding you really do that i mean just look at the iPad lineup like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► mentioned earlier about the new 12 inch MacBook Air thing you know possibly need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► to replace 1113 Aaron even that like you know not anytime soon maybe not ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► because they are fine having a bigger lineup I I think the Tim Cook era and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► didn't start with mister with Steve but it but certainly I think the temple gary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► has expanded this of like Apple is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► keeping old products around and having more versions of new products now to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► address market that they weren't serving before that were possibly a threat to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► them I think they're sticking to the AME remove the old quadrant thing with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► pro-consumer laptop desktop that was a simpler time right there was no watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► no phones and tablets whatever but within their their products that up it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► not crazy like they have a laptop line that they have more or less simplified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► by trying to you know MacBook Pro and MacBook versus the air and you getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► rid of the the non-pro MacBooks everything they have tablets they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/2853">TS</a>]
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01:12:03 ◼ ► advantage to make it worth me adding a complexity and having that the burden of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► having to learn that over a few weeks and be all the time into it go is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► different enough and good enough at certain things that it was worth it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► me and the bad old marco would have spent many more months arguing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► everyone else is that why you didn't need to rewrite the amount of time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► energy you would have spent defending your decision not to rewrite it and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► we would very quickly to a few minutes actually took you to rewrite it go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► know this this is what happens when a lot of money to meet on one side of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► yeah well it's all speculative like I don't think it'll be that much faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► maybe I can reduce the number of genes from one to two even now you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► it's not that much money although I think it totally is and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► all the arguments just made about having a senior till date and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► forth we could have made those arguments here but you know you have and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► I don't like a big deal that I would never had it so I hope you learned from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► this that like trying new things is awesome and give you money and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► usually taken that is like I get his work all the time I get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► calculation of like how much energy would be for me to argue against this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► for his house majority will take me to do it and surprising amount of time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► like it's more exhausting to me to think about arguing against it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► that is just do it actually less work than you like whatever its done when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► it's done the argument is over there is no argument we had and it was less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► mentally exhausting the name to try do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► you know argue about this i mean you know in my case it was really just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► like you know i'm not i'm not gonna take a step and learn a language that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► generally similar to PHP and what it does well and it doesn't do well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► there's not a whole lot of upside for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► well what will work on that will work on that one next like I know that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► you think but like with with go like the reason I went to it was because I I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► this problem that I was doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► PHP is it is especially bad at like if it was something that PHP is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► inconvenient for or not that well designed for that's less of again it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► more like well an ideal world on different time scale doing maybe I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► do something else but but like in most cases most of the problems I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► solve with web apps the other languages don't solve it better than PHP enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► make it worth the jump and and the hassle of having to rewrite things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► mean this is costing me this is gonna cost me probably two months of web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► programming time because I not only had to rewrite the crawlers and debug all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► the problems that came with them but also to rewrite a lot of the supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► tools things like the logging infrastructure and like the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► allow me to to check and see you when when Vedra last crawled how often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► monitoring if there's delays if there's cue congestion in being able to force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► want to crawl immediately like there's all sorts of like little infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► supporting pieces that tie into the cooling system that I now have to modify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► or rewrite because of the different system so it's it is it is a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► expensive change up front it will pay off over time but it's gonna take a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► of time into this why like I'm not gonna like throughout the whole rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► app in Python or something because there it's just there doesn't seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► enough benefit to doing that for for the amount of time work it would take if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► faced with a problem that PHP does really badly like lots of parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► network requests now I'm not going to use it for that so that's that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► the benefit when you sell overcast here next product you own the parts that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► appropriate for go you won't read PHP to begin with and it'll be go from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► beginning in the same thing with your queue management stuff like if you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► ever ever across the next hurdle which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► third-party products for dealing with queues of things and managing the cues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► and dealing with failures and reporting and logging there there lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► infrastructure type tools to deal with that I know you probably don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► they would rather just right things straightforwardly yourself but in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► similar way that if you were to try to use one of those who like I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► simple charity work started this thing and I had this weird system where some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► of the music systems that its like again the next time you do a project if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► had that too in your tool belt then you all say ok this part of the system under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► item PHP this morning trading go this thing I'm going to use you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► queue system and this whatever like to work on a third-party subjects but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► I feel like having this is one of the things that having a crappy job forces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► you to deal with because you have either one crappy job better multiple crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► jobs just like regular govt jobs you work with somebody else you get the pic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► after time what you're working with what database he organized but he was logging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► infrastructure working but operating system wouldn't you know it you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► get the pic right by the time you work with crappy things and but eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► you work with a whole bunch of different things so that when you come to a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► situation you like what I tried these five things in these 7 things in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► room or whatever and you have you're forced to have experience with lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► different things and so you could have a deeper tool chest pull from where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► could not force by some pointy haired boss to use a particular technology euro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► it's always up to you to do like the cost benefit in like I'm the only person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► here is it really worth me learning to do this on my own so much harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► you don't have the time to just screw around with stuff and try everything out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► and Andy survey the landscape really just have to go with what you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► so now you are becoming a hurdle to say I am going to screw around for a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► while just because I think they'll be a benefit from it it's a sort of a slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► motion version of having a series of jail be used for you for fifty different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► it's not your I also think it's kind of funny for you to see you just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► wave your hand at oh it won't be any better than PHP well that's not what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► said I said it won't be better enough to make it worth the transition costs ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► even then I think I think that's a very bold claim for not enough ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► necessarily because you know go but just kinda wave off I don't know Python as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► example in just assume that it's not going to be that beneficial I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► that's pretty bold now it doesn't necessarily mean you're wrong it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► means it's pretty bold and I&I am proud of you and remain proud of you for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► having explored go and I echo what john is saying that I think this is a baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► step in the right direction for you understanding that you don't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► need to personally solve every problem under the Sun and there are more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► one ways there's more than one way to skin a cat and that's ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► power market is right about this thing though is like it's not even you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► Python vs PHP is that he found the hot spot right like you reduce the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► half doesn't matter how much better something is in PHP this was clearly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► hot spot like he's not gonna happen again right like so that's that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► rude anything just working yourself especially when you were here so put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► your effort towards a thing that's gonna give you the biggest bang for your buck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► and Sophie if you have the number of services it's it's silly to expect that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4736">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► the next change will also have the number saved his attention they all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► you no one no one thousandth of a server and you know so it like decide where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► borrowing against an address that and then you know if if the current state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► things is finding your work is done you don't need or like I don't think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► for example he decided the hot spot as BHP I injured my speech with Python he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► would not have happened over a service like that the type of thing we without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► kinda ballpark and are these are the same level of abstraction goes to Kluwer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► level and it's clear giving him something to PHP yeah yeah definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► doing watch kill lots of watching it this week I'm like it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► yeah it's so limited that there's not a lot of pressure on me to make something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► amazing like that's too but like there's a lot of pressure on me to cram the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► entire app into this because you can't like it is not possible to so the limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4793">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► limit I have are very challenging and and that way kind of interesting to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► can you do things like an accelerometer access on the watch like if I if I shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► my wrist still no sensors like a lot of time I listen to a podcast or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► I hate i'm talking about the stupid little clicker like going forward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► back of doing two clicks and three clicks which yet when you have cult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► figure is in like I don't know if I can only hold too long and ends up being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► quick and the whole bike I know all the patterns but I just can't make my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► fingers do with the stupid Apple quicker but you just you run out of gestures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► like you can't you don't have enough there's not enough input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► funds so the time it's like I just missed last few seconds of oversight of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► pot guess I would check members to go back seven seconds and just have that be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► the one on ambiguous vigorously shaking like you know I think he can make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► vigorous enough so you didn't have to show you wouldn't accidentally do it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► whatever and that is much easier than me trying to triple click the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► headset thing to go back and hear what if somebody said actually i I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► prototype class that's a pocket tap recognizer that will try to recognize if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► you tap the phone logs in your pocket just like it with your finger from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► outside of your jeans or whatever and I got that working decently but I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► never get it working reliably enough to actually ship it like it's it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► good enough to get there isn't there's too many false responses in either in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► either direction like falsely detecting like if you could step really hard as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► tap and missing a real tap the keg I just could not get to work properly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► and its kinda small for gestures that sort of thing like the one input you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► have is the shaker and shake to undo is silly but I'm pretty sure I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► actually done accidentally done it and I very frequently have a done it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► purpose and be shaken a nap in the in the dim hope this Apple actually support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► on due Thurs shake and I'm really excited about a dozen it doesn't I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► under said you've never kick that off accidentally never know I do it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► time will be holding my iPad still be in in bed on my back holding my head with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► both hands using it and then all kinda like drop it intentionally to let it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► land on my chest I can like type or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► not support the weight of the iPad with my hands anymore I have an iPad 3 if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► did it would break my ribs that's true that is an excellent points every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► do that deliberate drop onto my under my chest in order to you make it so that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► dont to supported anymore then then it kicks the undue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► do you want to do the typing you just did and it drives me nuts every time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► as a developer I know that it it makes perfect sense why that's happening and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► it's not my fault but it's kinda my fault yet for all I know I am accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► I'm just doing it and Absa don't support on do I never I've never seen stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► going on my screen realizes because I jostle thing too much and I guess that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► very frequently after accidentally performing some action just usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► shake the device doesn't undo it lets me get revenge against my stupid phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► as I think I'm doing a lot of what I like so I like it a lot I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► important for people's expectations of what watched it absolute actually be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► actually know how it works a little bit so so basically so you know when apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► launches in a few months or whatever doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► developers can only Apple can do whatever they want their third party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► developers only make watch after the watch kit so what this is is the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► it watch it is actually extension that runs on the phone from the main like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► parent at and it runs in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► whenever whenever you select like the app's icon on the watch it launches the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► walk an extension on the phone to like you know boot up giving data and control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► it and then the third party developers could never actually runs on the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► all third-party code is running on the phone and it's literally just like its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► reading data from the parent app on the phone is making a network calls it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► also happening on the phone and then you send commands to the watch list update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► the screen the watch is playing through a static storyboard we've defined your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► your controls everything in the moment they have those are all staticy can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► generate elements dynamically at runtime you can hide and show them but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► generate new ones and so the phone is basically commanding the watch over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► Bluetooth how to update your interface in it so it's it's sending over commands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► like sit this label's text to the strength and all the commands its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► hilarious all the commands there right only you can't read from them so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► set the color of the text you can't read it back to literally just a thin layer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► on top of this convention it's like telling the watch how-to updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► interface so that there's a number of challenges with the biggest one is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► latency cuz Bluetooth has some lazy it in modern that's pretty small but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► is some latency and is also just a lot of pretty limited bandwidth there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► the watch as far as we can tell from from hinson things here and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► the watches not gonna keep your app running for very long it look as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► you start looking at it it closes the extension clothes and everything is cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► off so there's gonna be major challenges in just getting these watch apps to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► be dynamic and to be to be useful in to be rich because like if you like sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► over images you know even like they are having a problem with the album art of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► like how do you how do you send over albemarle in a way that is efficient and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► you can have it cash up to 20 megs of Albemarle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► like all these little limitations little problems but overall the biggest thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5154">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► about it is just this this lack of dynamic interface and the the latency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► involved in up doing things and everything is based around trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► minimize it also if you're really chatty of the protocol of the blue to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► their radios on a bunch of battery life on both sides so there's there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► of challenges lot of limitations here I would say for the for the first wave of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► third-party apps which i think is going to be a year roughly I would say don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► expect a lot of dynamic interaction it is like a static menu that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► dealing with iraq static interface elements there's there's almost nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► I would not expect a whole lot from games I think some games will work on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► things we can have very simple controls like which of these five actions do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► want to do next Texas but that's like there's not a lot of interaction as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► reasonably possible that the system on the plus side it's really quick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5214">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► develop for and it's really easy to get something going and it's why I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► think it's a smart move overall from Apple and the tools are really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► there's a couple of bugs here and there but overall for this limited set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► things that it doing it's pretty well suited for that so I'm extremely happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► about it as much no I'm happy that I don't have to be forced to cram the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► whole app into it because I just can't so instead i canvassed limited subset I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► can do in a month or two and and be a have really great app out there and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► done with it so overall I like it again set a shallow if you're if you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► to buy one of these things don't expect a whole lot from third party apps but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► what you have I think will be interesting and certainly will be enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► for the first year that's good for Apple because what they want to say boy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► Apple watches out and already there are certain very large number of third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► applications for it because if it's really easy for you to add like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► one just a trivial well all Apple I support at this point is trivial without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► native apps and stuff like that and limitations so if you make it easy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► people to go get her iPhone app because they have watched it for it and it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► is thinking of is there anything sensible I can show in the washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► there's anything remotely sensible no matter how simple it is you don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► too bad it's like everyone has to be something so I think this will help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► Apple have a lot of you know a lot of phone apps iOS apps that support the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► phone watch apps I was that support the watch out of the gate because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► what they want to say that our platform is exciting it's popular and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► possible to make full-fledged applications then did you just made some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► silly thing that was barely interactive you would look bad but now everyone will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► you know comparatively good yeah I mean it's it really does serve their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► interests are very well and I think it helps us to I mean I know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► developers are probably fair frustrated with the limitations of what you a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► of the very long list of things you can't do things you don't have access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► like for instance if your phone is out of range of the watch from what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► hardware yet but from what we've been told if your phone losses that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► connection to the watch if you go running with it or whatever your app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► just terminates like it just ends because it can't keep you updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► anymore it's just like you just ends so nothing can run detached from a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► that third-party an end to so many limitations on on the things that can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► be kinds of things you can't do with the interface is very low and and and we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► and we still in the simulator they have they have attempted to simulate latency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► with some of these commands but it's just artificial insertion of sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► command in the UI so you don't we don't really know what the latency will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► like a normal device like you know like if I'm showing a list of of of podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► episodes like it in the play the screen I wanna have artwork on each one showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► you what shoulder from at this point a man and I'm down to their really tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► they're looking at a couple of kilobytes but in the simulator it takes a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► time to load that and and I don't know if that's a bug I don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► because it's simulating latency like per request is that have by bite size or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► don't know if that's really how how late is going to be in which case I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► have to change that design entirely gotta think like yosemite in iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► seven and just average the color of the album art pick one car out of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► where to that one car so I have had an honest question you may choose not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► answer it but you've talked several times about how limited watch kids which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► can you give it a couple of examples of things you really wish you could do or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► have tried to do but couldn't make work with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► current set of watch kit limitations oh sure I mean one of the biggest ones as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5455">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► i cant do my plan to meet at all i mean the I could render it to a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► images and try to send the commands over the right set this bar of the of the EQ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► to be this high on the storyboarding you just like only three of those four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► the old you know a lot of you guys do this where they wanted to look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► level meters but they just have like four images to decide between randomly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► storyboards all static no no no one knows what the way for me that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► Apple does it when I was 7 animal watch when they have their music app that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► animation bars those are fake I think the one in the QuickTime seven players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► realize it I don't know I think so but the ones the ones I S seven little three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► bar animation menu item that's totally fake and that I like seeing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► being annoyed it was figured maybe try to do my own that was real and it worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► ones due to serve a purpose I'm joking about the story like something to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5516">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► people know that audio is playing is probably a good idea if you do I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► it's probably much better to do with the static thing like a red light on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► camera that shows you know cameras on or whatever but people are if you show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► anyone who looks like a level meter people know that mean something is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► playing that I can't hear it something is screwed up the music playing like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► would think most people just look at into the possible courses play otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► there wouldn't be a possible but I found my experience that people do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► recognize that the reality is staring in the face but he showed level meter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► anywhere they know something should be playing or not hearing it's Alex program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► where I mean it's ok see you know limitations I've hit directly I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► am one of the biggest ones is just not not knowing how much latency I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► actually expect in real life when sending images over and over that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► you know so some of the actual like hard limits are things like I can't even show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► efficiently the second remaining indicator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► because there is a built-in widget that would that you don't have to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► updating for counting up or down to a certain time or certain time interval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► are showing the current time so i cant like the only way for me to have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► countdown with a second with the actual seconds remaining is to update it every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► time that number changes so at least once per second which I probably can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► and probably shouldn't be doing so instead I have I haven't actually update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► a minutes remaining counter and whenever whenever the number of minutes remaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► changes I sent an update over the Bluetooth and have it up to the label to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► show that and I have a have a progress bar in the current mock-up that only its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► images and it only has like a hundred and fifty increments across the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► and so whenever like the progress through the episode changes by enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► matter to be worth a couple of pixels I updated image to be the new value are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► you still doing better than windows ninety-five that's true yes that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► segmented progress bars oh yeah and you have more than a hundred and didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► a hundred right so there's like there's there's limitations like that just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► just can't get around the biggest limitation is the width of the screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► just really narrow can't fit a lot on the screen and and I've managed to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► it work I think I won't know until actually get one of these watches and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► start using it but I think I managed to make it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► acceptably but that is the hardest challenges is to design challenge right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► there but it is also like the little details like so if you have a navigation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► stack so you have a hearing your route controller then it pushes a menu select [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► an element on the table view it pushes the new one then again it pushes another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► any of the ones that are below the current item in the stack that you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► you put something on top of those stopped receiving you I updates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► those can no longer send you updates for themselves so let's say you have at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5695">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► base of the navigation hierarchy a list of the podcast you subscribe to then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► push on top of that the latest you in a plane so you're in the middle of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► the list of pot suscribe to changes for some reason something new comes new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► download you delete one whatever the case the list changes so now the route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► controller which is not currently shown on screen it's very blue now playing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► route controller needs to update itself if you it still memory it will recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► if you if you recognize that there's there's been a change but you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► check to see if its active and if it's not active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► you have to just in queue that and just set like a boolean flag summer saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► this is invalidated I have now in a handy to reload it next time shown and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► the next time you have to check that flag as they open if I'm invalid below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEQDXY/5747">TS</a>]
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