00:00:00 ◼ ► Hello and welcome to Connected episode 565. What's a thing where the letters are the same
00:00:14 ◼ ► both ways, Mike? Palindrome. Welcome to the palindrome episode of Connected. We're going
00:00:20 ◼ ► to do topics in reverse chronological order. No, no, no, no. We start at the end and then
00:00:28 ◼ ► do the beginning one and we just meet in the middle. Maybe. Anyways, today is August 13th,
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00:00:41 ◼ ► My name is Stephen Hackett. I'm joined as always, except when we're not, by Mike Hurley.
00:00:46 ◼ ► No, I'm always here. All right. I am the constant. That's what they call me. They call me Mike
00:00:50 ◼ ► the constant. You took two months off. Aside from that, I am the constant. Well, I was constantly
00:00:56 ◼ ► away for two months. That's true. And now I'm constantly back. So we're in full on summer
00:01:02 ◼ ► season. So Federico's not here this week. Stephen's not here next week. I'm not sure if Federico's
00:01:08 ◼ ► going to be here next week. I will be here next week. That's all I can give you right now.
00:01:14 ◼ ► That's where we are with the show. It's summer. Federico's disappeared as he does every summer.
00:01:29 ◼ ► Yeah. I mean, as I mentioned, I just mentioned it. As long as he's gone, he's not here, but
00:01:37 ◼ ► Not right now. I don't think he's listening right now. Maybe he'll listen later, though.
00:01:43 ◼ ► To tell Federico how much you miss him, find him on social media. He's on Mastodon and Blue Sky
00:02:02 ◼ ► Oh. I like home screens. Yeah. Look at what you're sending him. Yeah. Hit him up. We have some follow
00:02:11 ◼ ► up. Okay. iOS 26 beta 6 is out. We're gonna talk about that more in a little while. But Mike,
00:02:18 ◼ ► your short lived setting for camera scrolling has been removed. Yeah, incredible. And they've actually
00:02:26 ◼ ► just done the thing that it should have done from the first place. So the off spoke about now,
00:02:31 ◼ ► camera selector mode switcher. Selector gate. Which, yes, which they added in 26. And originally
00:02:40 ◼ ► it scrolled in the wrong direction. And then they added the switch where you could change to the
00:02:44 ◼ ► direction. And the default was still the wrong way. They have now just removed the setting and
00:02:50 ◼ ► switched it back. So it scrolls the natural way that it should. So as you scroll your finger to the
00:02:57 ◼ ► left, the wheel moves left and et cetera, et cetera. So, um, congratulations. Yeah. Did you file a
00:03:06 ◼ ► feedback about this? Absolutely not. No. Okay. This was podcasts in action. Yeah. And I, you know,
00:03:14 ◼ ► I don't know if I actually made any effect to this. I hope I did. I hope I was at least like a,
00:03:19 ◼ ► like a little, uh, like a little, uh, pebble on a, uh, I'm reading four in our document, a little pebble
00:03:24 ◼ ► on the scale of this one. But, um, I actually, I think I said this last week and I, I still think
00:03:31 ◼ ► this is maybe the wrong move. Um, but we'll see how it goes. I think just this change in general
00:03:39 ◼ ► is going to be the photos app of iOS 26. Yeah. I needed to shoot a panorama yesterday. You saw it.
00:03:49 ◼ ► I sent it to you. Uh, it took me a second to be like, wait, where is it now? Because it's clunky.
00:03:54 ◼ ► Yeah. It's clunky. You can't, it lacks context, which I think is my big problem with it.
00:03:59 ◼ ► I get wanting to simplify the camera app, but I think maybe that went too far, but we'll see.
00:04:06 ◼ ► We'll see how people respond to it this, this fall. I mean, it's, it's also like a selector
00:04:12 ◼ ► where your thumb is physically covering the thing that you need to select ultimately. Um,
00:04:19 ◼ ► which is not, it's not, it's not great, but we'll see. We'll see. I mean, look, I still,
00:04:24 ◼ ► for me, the amount of times in a year where I need one of those other settings is slim. And so like,
00:04:35 ◼ ► I think there might be a different way to do the simplification, but maybe we'll talk a little
00:04:40 ◼ ► bit more about this feature later on in the episode, actually, when we can talk more about
00:04:44 ◼ ► 26. Okay. Tell me about Pebble. Yeah. Did you see this? Cause I, I know that, uh, when the Pebble
00:04:50 ◼ ► came back, um, I think you ordered one, right? I did. Yeah. Uh, underscore and I both, both ordered
00:05:01 ◼ ► I did. Totally, totally wild. Very interesting. Yeah. So like as a refresh, basically the original
00:05:09 ◼ ► founder of Pebble, uh, this is the original smartwatch. I'll call it for the, for the sake
00:05:15 ◼ ► of it. Um, they were able, Eric Michikovsky, uh, was able, they were able to convince Google
00:05:23 ◼ ► to open source the Pebble OS and design. So they were able to make new Pebbles, but they
00:05:31 ◼ ► were calling them core. I think like core devices was the kind of the name. Well, they have now,
00:05:39 ◼ ► I think unbelievably. And for a reason, I don't understand the reason they have gotten Google
00:05:48 ◼ ► to release the trademark to them of the name Pebble, which is just like, I don't know if
00:05:57 ◼ ► they had to pay for it. They probably did. I don't know how much they would have paid for
00:06:00 ◼ ► it, but it's, why did it's fascinating to me of like, at this point, why did Google ever
00:06:08 ◼ ► Maybe. I don't know, but it's a bit like, it is, it's odd. I mean, I'm very pleased for
00:06:14 ◼ ► them because everyone was going to call these things Pebble. Um, and so I'm happy that they're
00:06:18 ◼ ► able to get the name. Uh, and then also today, like I put this in the notes and then today
00:06:22 ◼ ► when I did my final check of RSS today before doing the show, uh, Victoria Song at the Verge,
00:06:27 ◼ ► um, had an article about the kind of final design of the Pebble Time 2. So they're bringing
00:06:33 ◼ ► out to, I think it's like the Pebble Duo or the Pebble Core Duo, um, is, which is essentially
00:06:43 ◼ ► Yeah. And the Pebble Time 2 is more interesting. It's touch screen. It's got a RGB backlighting.
00:06:52 ◼ ► It's got an e-paper screen, which it can be a bit more responsive and show more color and
00:06:56 ◼ ► stuff. Um, and so they show us the design of this and I would say this looks like a pretty
00:07:03 ◼ ► decent smartwatch design wise. Um, neither of these are watches I would want to wear, but
00:07:11 ◼ ► I'm happy that they exist. I was listening to the waveform podcast, which is probably where
00:07:18 ◼ ► you heard this news originally too. Cause I know you listened to that. Um, and David was
00:07:24 ◼ ► mentioning, which I thought was interesting and I didn't really take this into consideration
00:07:28 ◼ ► that unlike other products that are like this, this will, this, this device will be able to
00:07:36 ◼ ► support all of the old apps. So it will launch with like a bunch of software just available,
00:07:44 ◼ ► which is not normally how something like this goes, right? Like it's usually like, okay, here's
00:07:50 ◼ ► the thing. And we're hoping people will adopt it. But like, no, there's like a bunch of stuff
00:07:55 ◼ ► that already exists and that maybe people that made it might want to update, play around with
00:07:59 ◼ ► that kind of thing. Um, but yeah, I think that that's, I think it's really cool that you
00:08:06 ◼ ► will be able to get it and there'll be like a bunch of cool watch faces and all this kind
00:08:09 ◼ ► of stuff and it'll all just work. Um, be fascinating. I look forward to all of the like dead services
00:08:15 ◼ ► that apps will be trying to tie into that don't exist. Oh yeah. You know, absolutely. There's
00:08:20 ◼ ► going to be some of that, um, like the app.net client, right? Um, my fed a verse, uh, fit
00:08:28 ◼ ► bought, fit bit, fit bought as a sponsor fit bit. Yep. Not a sponsor yet bought pebble.
00:08:36 ◼ ► And then they got bought by Google. So it was a, uh, nesting doll of acquisitions, but still
00:08:43 ◼ ► it's still like a decent name for our product, right? That Google just owned and they didn't
00:08:51 ◼ ► have to let go of that. They could have just kept that forever. Yeah. I don't know. Um,
00:08:56 ◼ ► I like it. It makes me have good feelings towards Google and maybe that's enough, you know?
00:09:01 ◼ ► Sure. I'm excited about it. I mean, I, I ordered one. I think it's really cool that he's gotten
00:09:06 ◼ ► it back and you know, I'm sure it's, um, it's going to be very interesting to watch how, how
00:09:13 ◼ ► this goes. I have some news. Okay. Relay's turning 11. Whoa. I didn't know about that. That's yes,
00:09:22 ◼ ► you did. It's not news for me next week. You and I are going to host a Q and a it's going
00:09:31 ◼ ► to be in the departures feed on the relay website. Uh, but we are looking for questions. So if
00:09:37 ◼ ► you are a member, you can ask in the discord. Uh, if you're not a member, you can ask, uh,
00:09:42 ◼ ► at relay.fm slash membership slash feedback and hit us up with questions about turning 11.
00:09:50 ◼ ► Yep. There's a link in the show notes, uh, too. Yeah. So we will be recording a special episode of
00:09:57 ◼ ► what is a membership show that we do called backstage, but we were going to release it for everybody. Um,
00:10:03 ◼ ► so you can, so you can hear it and, uh, can hear, I don't know. We'll answer your questions,
00:10:07 ◼ ► whatever you want to ask us about, uh, relays 11th year, which wait, it's about to begin. Yes.
00:10:13 ◼ ► The 11th year is about to begin the first annual problem. Yeah. Cause what we're still in the 10th
00:10:20 ◼ ► year. Is that how that works? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Numbers are difficult. It's true. Uh, but here we
00:10:29 ◼ ► are. So yeah, hit us up. Speaking of memories. Oh, look at me. There's an app called cassette.
00:10:37 ◼ ► Which has been making the waves, uh, every, every blog and timeline that I participate in reading,
00:10:45 ◼ ► uh, over the last couple of days. What is cassette? Uh, cassette is a new iOS and iPadOS app. It does
00:10:54 ◼ ► run on the Mac, but I think it's best on the iPhone and iPad, uh, by Devin Davies who wrote Crouton,
00:10:59 ◼ ► which won an ADA, I think two years ago. Um, anyway, anyways, cassette is an app that pulls
00:11:06 ◼ ► videos from your photo library and you can watch them, uh, on your phone. It, the whole sort of
00:11:15 ◼ ► feeling of it is the nostalgia, right? So they look like VHS tapes gets played on a TV. Um, or you can
00:11:22 ◼ ► airdrop them to, or airdrop, you can airplay them to a nearby Apple TV and like scroll through your
00:11:28 ◼ ► home videos in this, in this kind of compelling way. It's really fascinating. I was added to the
00:11:35 ◼ ► test flight about a week ago and it was one of those, I haven't had this in a long time, but like
00:11:42 ◼ ► I kind of looked up and realized how much time had passed. I was just like looking at my phone at my
00:11:47 ◼ ► desk, like playing old videos of my kids running around. Um, it's really cool. And if you're
00:11:54 ◼ ► nostalgic for those sorts of things, like you open your library, you find a tape labeled a year and
00:12:00 ◼ ► like you can sit back and watch all these videos from that year. It's, it's very compelling.
00:12:05 ◼ ► Yeah. You can let them play. You can swipe up and down like TikTok or you can press like a shuffle
00:12:12 ◼ ► button and it will shuffle through the videos of that year. Um, there's a lot of skeuomorphism.
00:12:19 ◼ ► Not a lot. There's a, there's a good sprinkling of skeuomorphism, right? Like in its tapes that
00:12:24 ◼ ► you're selecting, the tapes get put into a VCR and then they load and start playing. There is like a,
00:12:30 ◼ ► um, VCR style date and location information that shows over the top of the video. There are no
00:12:38 ◼ ► filters or anything. Like this isn't making your videos look old. Although I would not mind that.
00:12:44 ◼ ► Right. Like, I think that would be a nice, maybe premium feature. Like give me a CRT filter on this.
00:12:49 ◼ ► I think that would be kind of fun. Um, but I think that it's good that by default, it's not that.
00:12:54 ◼ ► Uh, and it is a, it's just a, it's just great UI design. Like ultimately it is just in the sense of
00:13:04 ◼ ► like, it looks good, but it's also just like a very good user experience for watching old videos.
00:13:11 ◼ ► And with the way that it's presented, it kind of works for seeing stuff. Let's like random and old
00:13:18 ◼ ► to you. Yeah. Because this is a thing that is maybe going away, but like me and you would have had this
00:13:25 ◼ ► for sure where it was like this idea of like taking a tape and pressing play and just seeing what was
00:13:34 ◼ ► on it. And, and it would be that it would one tape could be three different family events or whatever
00:13:41 ◼ ► that were on the VCR tape. And it's actually, this app has hit me at like a kind of like a perfect moment
00:13:47 ◼ ► in my life. Um, one is that like, I'm trying to take more video now, uh, now that my child is doing
00:13:57 ◼ ► things and I'm, and I'm taking specifically what I've referred to at home as awkward family videos
00:14:10 ◼ ► Cause that's what it was like when we were kids, right? Like your dad or your uncle or your mom
00:14:16 ◼ ► or your nan or whatever would get the video camera out and would just start filming. And it was just
00:14:20 ◼ ► like, there's nothing really happening here. Like I'm not, you know, we're just like at a barbecue
00:14:25 ◼ ► or whatever. And so it's just been times when I have started filming something that Sophia was doing
00:14:32 ◼ ► and then just kept filming going. And I've already started having these moments where there's like a
00:14:38 ◼ ► funny little thing happens, right? Like she'll do something that I wouldn't have caught otherwise.
00:14:42 ◼ ► And it's nice to have it. Um, and I've also like, I, this sounds ridiculous, but I'm hoping that you
00:14:51 ◼ ► will be able to understand this. Like my, my child turns six months old next week and I am already
00:15:00 ◼ ► nostalgic for like three months ago. Yeah, totally good. Okay. Like it's a very strange thing,
00:15:05 ◼ ► but like I see photos and videos of her from three months ago. I mean, when you're that,
00:15:11 ◼ ► when she's that little, she looks like a different human, right? Which is one thing. It's like that
00:15:14 ◼ ► person is gone. Like this tiny, tiny little person and her hair was all dark and her face was a
00:15:20 ◼ ► different shape. And so like, it's nice for me in a way to just look at films from this year and be
00:15:25 ◼ ► like, I was looking at it today. Like one of the tapes that I loaded, well, I've always, I've,
00:15:29 ◼ ► every time I've used the app, which is lots now in the last day or two, there's like a button that
00:15:34 ◼ ► says, take me somewhere and you press it and just load a random year. And I was looking at ones from
00:15:39 ◼ ► this year and it's just like all these little things like, Oh my God, I forgot about that.
00:15:53 ◼ ► So like when you press the shuffle button, it's shuffling the video clips from this year,
00:15:58 ◼ ► it would probably have to be a separate mode or something. But like, I would love to just watch
00:16:03 ◼ ► videos completely at random. Like here's something from 2014. Here's something from 2019. Here's
00:16:11 ◼ ► something from 2017. I know it's kind of different to how the app works, but I would also quite like
00:16:16 ◼ ► that just because I liked the experience of just like hitting the buttons and going through and stuff,
00:16:20 ◼ ► but it's brilliant. It's just like a really weird, fun, little brilliant app. And like, it doesn't,
00:16:26 ◼ ► I'm not surprised that it's being written up so much. And I think especially by parents.
00:16:32 ◼ ► This is a parent like catnip kind of app, I think, uh, because you, you, you end up seeing like these
00:16:45 ◼ ► I wondered if it was showing the video of live photos. Um, but I think, I don't think so.
00:16:50 ◼ ► I don't think, but what I remember now is what I think it is doing. I made a couple of loops
00:16:54 ◼ ► and I think they kind of show us videos. Like if you turn a live photo into a loop or something,
00:16:59 ◼ ► cause I got a couple that were like clearly more live photos, but they're not showing live photos.
00:17:03 ◼ ► But anyway, brilliant app. It's really worth checking out. Um, it's, you can download it for free
00:17:08 ◼ ► and there's some premium features, but everyone should give it a go. Cause it's just really weird and fun.
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00:19:14 ◼ ► Mike, last time we spoke about your Apple watch usage and how you're now six month old daughter likes
00:19:23 ◼ ► playing with your watch. Many, many, many people wrote in, but Jimmy was the first. So I'm going to quote
00:19:33 ◼ ► Jimmy, Jimmy hit play the second I published the episode because it was the first thing that came
00:19:37 ◼ ► in. When my son was a baby, I had the same issues with the Apple watch as Mike. Don't listen to the
00:19:43 ◼ ► chumps telling you about theater mode. The real pro move is water lock screen stays on notifications
00:19:50 ◼ ► still come in and Hey Dingus still works, but the touchscreen is disabled. Just move the button to
00:19:56 ◼ ► the top of control center and tap it. Whenever you pick up the child, it works great. This is one of
00:20:02 ◼ ► those times where as soon as I saw this piece of feedback from Jimmy, I had big regret because I
00:20:08 ◼ ► knew about this. I knew about this. I knew about this because a friend of the show, Jeremy Burge,
00:20:14 ◼ ► he has a daughter who's about maybe five, six months older than mine. And I remember him going through
00:20:21 ◼ ► this journey himself on Instagram and he ended up landing on water lock as the way to lock his screen.
00:20:35 ◼ ► it doesn't necessarily solve everything I want to solve. And it makes using the Apple watch more
00:20:42 ◼ ► annoying. Cause one thing I, I just want, I know she kept getting distracted by things happening on the
00:20:50 ◼ ► watch. Right. Then I want to get rid of that thing. And I would, things would happen before I would get to
00:21:00 ◼ ► press the button for I remember, right? Like she would start sending messages to people or whatever.
00:21:04 ◼ ► And I'm like, Oh, I've got to put on water lock or I would have to have it on water lock all the time.
00:21:09 ◼ ► It just makes the watch just bad to use. Right. To not, to be able to interact with it and you've got
00:21:13 ◼ ► to press it down. You've got to wait for the thing and then you're ready to go. Um, so I know it's the
00:21:19 ◼ ► thing that exists. Thank you to everybody that wrote in. I've been getting this on all of my various feeds,
00:21:24 ◼ ► uh, everywhere's this feedback has been following me around like a ghost, uh, this week. It is good
00:21:30 ◼ ► feedback, but it, it, uh, it solves problems, creates some small new problems. And I'm not sure
00:21:37 ◼ ► that I really want to do it anyway. So I have, when I got home last week after recording the show,
00:21:45 ◼ ► I went upstairs, I put my Apple watch ultra on my, uh, charger and I got one of my watches from the
00:21:52 ◼ ► closet. Uh, the watch that I bought for when me and Idina got married cause I didn't want to wear my
00:21:57 ◼ ► Apple watch and my photos, which is one of the best decisions I ever made. And I recommend, I was there
00:22:01 ◼ ► and you got it. You were cause I bought on my, uh, my stag. Yeah. It was awesome. Bachelor party. That's the
00:22:08 ◼ ► phrase. Yeah. Um, I will give this advice again. When you're getting married, just wear a watch. If you
00:22:16 ◼ ► want to wear a watch, don't wear an Apple watch because they look so dated. Um, over time. I just,
00:22:22 ◼ ► I don't recommend it, but do it, do your thing. But that's my recommendation to you. And so I have been
00:22:27 ◼ ► taking some notes over the last seven days of going back to a mechanical watch. So the first thing I
00:22:32 ◼ ► noticed is I set timers a lot. Uh, the way I first noticed this was when I wanted to set a timer and I
00:22:40 ◼ ► tapped the face of my mechanical watch. That was, and then later when a timer went off and I wanted to
00:22:47 ◼ ► stop it and I pressed the crown of the watch. So none of these things did anything. Um, so that, that wasn't
00:22:55 ◼ ► helpful. Um, uh, so, okay, that's thing one. And I'll say the, the experience of setting a timer on the phone
00:23:03 ◼ ► is so much worse than on the watch because it always makes a noise. Right. And I know you can turn this off, but then
00:23:08 ◼ ► my alarms will make a noise, which is another problem, which I'll get to in a minute. Uh, but I set a lot of timers
00:23:14 ◼ ► for like sterilizing things and all this kind of stuff. Um, so that's frustrating, but there's a way
00:23:19 ◼ ► around it. I just don't my phone. Fine. Speaking of alarms, my alarms, plural alarms for waking up in
00:23:28 ◼ ► the morning, way more effective when it's actually physically shaking me. Yeah. Uh, so, but at the same
00:23:36 ◼ ► time, when I do hear the alarm, it's harder to turn it off, which is also waking me up. So yeah,
00:23:41 ◼ ► kind of six of one half dozen of another there. Um, I miss having a very quick check of what the
00:23:48 ◼ ► temperature is. That was one of the, that was like the complication that I would have on even the
00:23:53 ◼ ► photos watch face, which you can have, I'd have the, uh, carrot weather little temperature guy on there,
00:23:58 ◼ ► but I do have it on the lock screen on my phone. So I've just kind of been trading my muscle memory
00:24:02 ◼ ► for that one. Losing some of the health features on the what from, you know, from the Apple watch is
00:24:10 ◼ ► annoying. Like the rings is maybe not a thing that I care about as much, but I like the vital stuff and
00:24:17 ◼ ► I like the sleep tracking. So I am considering maybe wearing my Apple watch. Maybe I'm giving the game
00:24:23 ◼ ► away here, but I'm considering wearing my Apple watch for sleeping to get that. Right. Cause then I would
00:24:28 ◼ ► get my overnight vitals and I would get my sleep tracking and that's cool. I have worn,
00:24:33 ◼ ► I've not really spoken about this cause I don't really know what I think of it, but I've been
00:24:41 ◼ ► this, my, my feeling to whoop is that noise. Yeah. Like I've tried it a couple of times and it never
00:24:50 ◼ ► sticks. And they have a new version, which is a bit controversial, but if I just ignore that,
00:24:55 ◼ ► cause it's not really something I care about, but they have a new version that is less focused towards
00:25:01 ◼ ► athletes, which I think might work better for me. Um, the whoop band is like never happy with me.
00:25:08 ◼ ► Like it's just never happy, uh, because I'm not maximum straining every day. I'm just not doing
00:25:13 ◼ ► that. It's just not the type of person that I am. Um, so I'm considering that maybe, I don't know,
00:25:19 ◼ ► like I haven't made my mind up about the whoop, but it is at least a way to track things going on
00:25:23 ◼ ► health wise. But I do feel a bit like, ah, like I was in the health app the other day and was like,
00:25:28 ◼ ► none of these trends are going to work anymore. Right. My heart rate, all that kind of stuff is gone.
00:25:33 ◼ ► And like, that is a frustration. Now in theory, if the whoop works enough, then maybe it can help a
00:25:39 ◼ ► little bit, but like, that is the big hangup for me. Um, of the things I have lost, this is the thing
00:25:45 ◼ ► that I am the most not sure about. Like some of the, like the auxiliary health focused things on the
00:25:54 ◼ ► Apple watch are really good and I value them. Yeah. And so I'm not really sure how to handle that.
00:26:00 ◼ ► Again, this is pointless to say, I just wish Apple made something that was like the whoop band. It
00:26:05 ◼ ► would solve all of my problems. And like, I think there is a genuine market for this product. Whoop
00:26:09 ◼ ► has been very successful. Fitbit is very successful of like these products that aren't full on watches,
00:26:14 ◼ ► but they can help you track your health. Maybe I should get a Fitbit. Maybe I should get a Fitbit.
00:26:20 ◼ ► If you have a Fitbit and you like it, send some feedback. I would like to hear about that.
00:26:26 ◼ ► Yeah. My, my problem with Fitbit is most of their products are now watches. Like I think
00:26:33 ◼ ► they still have a Fitbit. Oh, I don't want watches. I think they still have a band, but they've,
00:26:38 ◼ ► they've clearly kind of moved into the, like, like the charge six is one of their bands.
00:26:45 ◼ ► Yeah. No, I don't want this. The tracker has got a screen on it. I don't want this. Yeah.
00:26:49 ◼ ► Yeah. I don't want this. Yeah. All right. Well, I'll answer that. No one really make other than
00:26:53 ◼ ► whoop makes a screen less thing that I'm aware of. Um, someone in the, so yes, Linder in the discord
00:27:02 ◼ ► has made a suggestion and I just don't know how I feel about it. The ring. The Ura ring. The Ura ring.
00:27:08 ◼ ► Yeah. Also tried one of those a couple of years ago. Which in theory, did you? I did. Yeah.
00:27:14 ◼ ► I feel like I maybe knew this and forgot about it. Maybe. What was your experience like with the
00:27:19 ◼ ► Ura? Ura! You have to say it like that. Uh, one, I felt just like a person I didn't want to feel
00:27:25 ◼ ► like with a ring on my index finger. That's really where they want you to wear it. Oh no, really?
00:27:30 ◼ ► You can wear it on a, on like your ring finger, but they, they prefer you not. I don't think I can do
00:27:38 ◼ ► that. No offense. It's just not for me. Yeah. Like I just don't. It's so for me, it was weird.
00:27:43 ◼ ► personally, cause I don't wear a wedding band. Mine is tattooed on. So I don't wear a ring. I
00:27:50 ◼ ► haven't worn a ring in years. I think I had my tattoo like 10 years ago. And so for me, it
00:27:57 ◼ ► was overcoming wearing a ring again. And that kind of put it behind the eight ball a little
00:28:03 ◼ ► bit, but I tried the gen three. I've not tried the new one, you know, and it did step tracking
00:28:11 ◼ ► and sleep tracking and stuff. Um, I don't, I don't know. I wasn't, I've got a friend of
00:28:18 ◼ ► mine who loves his, like, he's like, if, if, if it dies, I will go replace it. Like he's
00:28:24 ◼ ► pretty hardcore about it. And I definitely didn't feel that way. I was like, this is fine. But
00:28:29 ◼ ► if the Apple watch went away, that's probably what I would go to and just like get over the
00:28:40 ◼ ► Maybe I should try. I mean, I'm, I'm, I look like a doofus wearing the whoop band to be
00:28:43 ◼ ► honest. Yeah. Cause I got this thing strapped to my wrist all day. I'm wearing two Apple
00:28:48 ◼ ► watches some days. I know. Well, that's double doofus. Like, I'm sorry. I love you, but that's
00:28:53 ◼ ► ridiculous. I know it's for your work, but like for my work, you know, I'm going to make you
00:28:58 ◼ ► wear two Apple watches. I'm giving the game away. I might get an Ura. I might get, I might
00:29:10 ◼ ► try this. I might try this. I might try that. Maybe we should both try it. Which you already
00:29:15 ◼ ► have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can feel free to try it if you want to. I get bored
00:29:28 ◼ ► not being physically connected to technology. Like if I'm away from my phone, stuff's happening.
00:29:42 ◼ ► Edina said to me, put your Apple watch back on because you're not answering my messages.
00:29:48 ◼ ► Yeah. To which I said, ah, come on. I don't want to. And so we're not sure about that yet.
00:29:58 ◼ ► Um, over the past couple of weeks, like she just sends me messages and I don't see any when I got
00:30:04 ◼ ► the watch on. Cause it's like, I'm doing, you know, like I'm doing things. The difference is
00:30:07 ◼ ► now the messages that she sends to me are more time sensitive than they were before. Right. So she's
00:30:14 ◼ ► like, I need this. Bring me this. It's very different to how's your day going. Right. Yeah.
00:30:19 ◼ ► So I think that we've got like a bit of a conflation of things going on here. Cause when I said to her,
00:30:25 ◼ ► I was like, you were already saying this to me a couple of weeks ago. She's like, oh yeah. Okay.
00:30:28 ◼ ► Fair enough. But if anything, all right. So to jump ahead, cause I still got a little bit more,
00:30:39 ◼ ► I am going to continue wearing to continue wearing regular watches for a little bit. I don't know how
00:30:44 ◼ ► long, but like I've gone a week and I don't want to put it back on again because I have found so much
00:30:49 ◼ ► more joy in looking at this watch this week. Like it looks better. It's more elegant. It's low profile,
00:30:57 ◼ ► which is nice. I've not got this just genuinely massive thing on my, on my arm. And I know I could,
00:31:03 ◼ ► you know, I know there are other options, right? The ultra is not necessarily the best option. If I
00:31:08 ◼ ► want something low profile, they have a lower profile Apple watch now, but also I think the
00:31:13 ◼ ► Apple watch is ugly. And I have thought this for a long time. I do not like the rectangle shape. I just
00:31:20 ◼ ► don't like it. And every watch face is bad except the photos watch face. In my opinion, I just don't
00:31:28 ◼ ► think, you know, I've overstated that by and large, I do not like the watch face options. There are some
00:31:33 ◼ ► that are really interesting looking and I like them. What I'm trying to say is none of them are as good
00:31:38 ◼ ► as a mechanical watch face. Okay. A good mechanical watch face that you like that you choose is nicer
00:31:47 ◼ ► looking. And if you think to yourself, I don't know what you mean by that. Think about how much you
00:31:53 ◼ ► would like a third party watch face store. Yeah. Cause that's essentially what real watches are.
00:31:59 ◼ ► Like I did that. Like if only one company made mechanical watches, I would feel the same,
00:32:09 ◼ ► right? Sure. If there was just one company with one company's design aesthetic, that was like,
00:32:15 ◼ ► we make all the watches. I'd be like, well, I don't want what you do. Like this isn't what I want.
00:32:22 ◼ ► Right. But there is a massive amount of choice in regular watches. Yeah. And so that that's what I'm
00:32:29 ◼ ► like. Apple has their design style and it doesn't always speak to me. And yeah, so I just, that's where
00:32:38 ◼ ► I'm with that. If anything's going to bring me back, it'll be missing notifications. And this is the
00:32:42 ◼ ► thing that I need to check over time. And I'm, I figure I'm going to start looking into other
00:32:47 ◼ ► options for tracking my health and it's not going to go into Apple's fitness thing, but maybe it will
00:32:51 ◼ ► go into Apple's health thing. Like, I don't know actually like to third party heart rate monitors
00:32:56 ◼ ► affect the trends. I actually don't know the answer to that question. I hope they would. Yeah.
00:33:10 ◼ ► your walking heart rate is this or whatever. Is that, do they pull that from anything or is
00:33:15 ◼ ► it only from the Apple watch? I think, I think it looks at all data sources. So it prioritizes
00:33:23 ◼ ► the watch probably. Probably. It's like the aura ring, right? It syncs with Apple health
00:33:27 ◼ ► to a degree. Um, Fitbit, the, uh, the discord is saying doesn't. So it may be a device per device
00:33:38 ◼ ► basis even like how well they're integrated with it. I don't know. I want to try and find
00:33:43 ◼ ► the answer to that though. But yeah, so I, that's kind of where I am. Like I just, at the moment,
00:33:48 ◼ ► I just find my, an actual watch just to be a nicer, like, it just, it just makes me happier.
00:33:55 ◼ ► Sure. Um, and I'm just trying to see how to make everything else work the way that I want.
00:34:02 ◼ ► Yeah. Um, and look, it's very possible. I'll just come back to the Apple watch in a couple
00:34:07 ◼ ► of months and I just need a little break from it. Um, or there's just going to be something
00:34:12 ◼ ► important where it's like, Oh, you know, the best thing for me to do is to wear that thing.
00:34:20 ◼ ► No, I get it. Matt, I definitely have had seasons of that. You know, right now I'm spending a lot of
00:34:25 ◼ ► time on the Apple watch getting pedometer plus plus ready for iOS 26. And I, but I feel the same way
00:34:34 ◼ ► you do. And like what I've done is I'm not wearing it on weekends. Um, definitely not on Sundays,
00:34:39 ◼ ► sometimes not on Saturdays wearing other watches. I don't have anything really that nice. Um, like
00:34:44 ◼ ► you do, but I wore my Casio calculator watch the other day. That made me happy. Um, I've got an
00:34:50 ◼ ► all white. Oh, the Ura ring is 350 pounds. Yeah. It's expensive. I was not expecting that. I thought
00:34:56 ◼ ► it was going to, I don't know. I thought there's gonna be less than that. It's pricey. I'm gonna think
00:34:59 ◼ ► about this now. Apparently in the U.S. you can do a fitment test at Best Buy, but I think I'd
00:35:10 ◼ ► get it. And I think that it's a, it's an interesting problem because the Apple watch does have a lot
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00:37:53 ◼ ► So you did a great job photoshopping some CarPlay stuff, but I don't think that was the intention of
00:38:01 ◼ ► your article. That's true. How would I know that you do or don't have the entire C-suite of Apple
00:38:07 ◼ ► in your contact list? Maybe you do. I don't know. But this was to get some feelings out that you have
00:38:15 ◼ ► Is it changed in iOS 26? Is that the deal? Yes. So in iOS 18 and before, the Messages app was just
00:38:22 ◼ ► a list of messages top to bottom. And you tap on one, it reads you the most recent message,
00:38:26 ◼ ► and you can reply to incoming messages. It's all voice, right? There's no, you're not getting a
00:38:31 ◼ ► keyboard. I had a question about, like, how do you read them? It reads them to you. Siri just reads them.
00:38:36 ◼ ► Okay. It's great. We have CarPlay in both of our cars. In my wife's van, it was from the factory.
00:38:43 ◼ ► My truck, it's via an aftermarket radio that I put in on my sabbatical, actually. And it's great. So CarPlay's
00:38:51 ◼ ► awesome. I would not want to drive a car without it. And for me, the biggest use is messages, because
00:38:59 ◼ ► I mean, I message all day, every day with a bunch of people, and I can just have it read them, and
00:39:03 ◼ ► you know, I can say things back. It's great. In 26, I think what they were trying to do is bring the
00:39:10 ◼ ► concept of pinned messages to CarPlay. So on the iPhone, iPad, Mac, and Apple Watch, you can have up to
00:39:32 ◼ ► So I've got a mix of family and friends and group messages in there. That's why I Photoshopped all the
00:39:39 ◼ ► Apple people in there, because I wasn't going to, like, dox my entire family. But the thing that's nice about it is
00:39:47 ◼ ► that those nine sync across all your devices, and they're always in the same order. So, like, I know if I look at
00:39:53 ◼ ► messages, Mike, you are the bottom left, and you've been the bottom left since this was a feature.
00:39:58 ◼ ► Like, I don't know how I feel about bottom left. That's where you are. Where would you prefer to be?
00:40:03 ◼ ► You're middle. You're middle left for me. I just don't know how I feel about bottom left.
00:40:07 ◼ ► Maybe I could move you to the middle. Maybe it's good. No, you don't need to move me to the middle.
00:40:13 ◼ ► Okay. You know, I've got friends, family, you know, it's great. They've brought that to CarPlay
00:40:21 ◼ ► and iOS 26. But CarPlay screens are all different sizes and all different ratios. Some are vertical,
00:40:27 ◼ ► as we were talking about in Discord yesterday after I wrote this article. And so they don't,
00:40:32 ◼ ► Apple chose not to preserve the three-by-three grid. And so in my particular truck, the grid is
00:40:39 ◼ ► five across. I have a seven-inch display in my truck, so it's actually not that big compared to
00:40:44 ◼ ► more modern vehicles. Like, the Tundra I had for a year had a 14-inch screen. It was, like,
00:40:50 ◼ ► unnecessary in every way. And I bet CarPlay looks sick on a 14-inch display. But on a seven-inch display,
00:41:13 ◼ ► And so my initial complaint, the reason I wrote this article, or was going to write this article,
00:41:21 ◼ ► was it breaks the muscle memory of where my favorites are. And I find that really annoying.
00:41:27 ◼ ► Yeah. And I also feel like while, you know, we're advocating for 12, 12 would actually make this
00:41:32 ◼ ► way better because it's an even number, right? So it would, you would be able to break it.
00:41:37 ◼ ► Well, if you have a larger screen, so the van also has a seven-inch display, so that CarPlay looks the
00:41:45 ◼ ► same on both of them. But I did get an email from somebody with, I think they said it had a 10-and-a-half-inch
00:41:49 ◼ ► screen. And, like, the layout's a little bit different. So they're trying to accommodate
00:41:54 ◼ ► And I think what they've settled on, I'm not, this may not be done. This is how it's been now
00:42:00 ◼ ► for at least, I just put 26, I put 26 on the, my regular phone, Beta 3, I think. And it's been
00:42:11 ◼ ► the same, I think, since Beta 3. So it hasn't gotten any better. But they're trying to adapt for
00:42:16 ◼ ► multiple screen sizes. And another side effect of that is that names get truncated. So if you look
00:42:24 ◼ ► at my list, you can see Catherine Adams, Craig Federighi, D.J. O'Brien, their names are all
00:42:31 ◼ ► like dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, like slowly fade away. They're truncated. And in my family, our last name
00:42:40 ◼ ► is Hackett, right? That's seven letters on its own. And so if you have, you know, a bunch of people with
00:42:46 ◼ ► their first name and then Hackett gets truncated out or Hurley gets truncated out. Now there is a
00:42:52 ◼ ► setting in iOS where you can tell it to prefer to use like first initial last name, just first name,
00:43:02 ◼ ► just last name as a quote short name. And if you, I did not have that on, I do now. And it does help.
00:43:09 ◼ ► Yeah. What does it do on your iPhone? What do you mean? It doesn't, it never truncated on the phone.
00:43:16 ◼ ► So what would it show you? I think it would go to two lines. Oh really? Cause I, I don't know why,
00:43:22 ◼ ► like as I don't know about this setting, but mine are, mine are all just first names. Maybe that's
00:43:27 ◼ ► what it is on the phone. If that's the case, then I don't know why they would do this. Yeah. I don't
00:43:32 ◼ ► know why they, why they would do this, but it makes it look even worse. Um, the unread badges should be in
00:43:39 ◼ ► a consistent location. Like with Tim cook, it's up there like at two o'clock and then on the other
00:43:44 ◼ ► ones in the list below it's at nine o'clock. Like the, like it is everywhere else. Um, and then also
00:43:50 ◼ ► I didn't notice it after I published messages, the top of the screen, just not centered, like just not
00:43:56 ◼ ► centered at all. Is this one of those things that were centered within the, not within the full screen,
00:44:04 ◼ ► but within the like frame of the messages window, which is not, I think it's centered from the dock to the
00:44:11 ◼ ► far edge. Yeah, maybe, but like that's the wrong choice. Uh, not great. What do they call that? Visual
00:44:19 ◼ ► centering versus it should be centered with Eddie Q in my screenshot, I think. So anyways, that's, uh, that's all,
00:44:28 ◼ ► that all adds up to something that feels like an, uh, Android phone app that got installed on a tablet.
00:44:35 ◼ ► It just feels stretched out and weird. And the thing that kills me, I added this after I published. Um, but if you
00:44:43 ◼ ► look at the blog post, it was there a couple hours later, they solved it in the phone app. So in the phone app in
00:44:49 ◼ ► CarPlay, you have favorites, recents, contacts, and then the dialer and voicemail there. It's a tab controller.
00:44:57 ◼ ► Like you could put this navigation, uh, yeah, in messages and have your favorites. Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:03 ◼ ► It could be in a grid and then you could have recents. You just need two of them, right? Or other or
00:45:09 ◼ ► something. So I hope that they, they look at phone and make messages act and look more like phone. Cause
00:45:19 ◼ ► really it's, it's borderline unusable. I think the, the, the tap targets are also really small again on a
00:45:26 ◼ ► seven inch screen, which is, you know, not huge. I feel like seven inches is kind of in the middle when it comes to
00:45:32 ◼ ► Cause to be fair, right. Cause you could say like, oh, uh, you know, that what they tried to do is, is have a visual
00:45:40 ◼ ► consistency, which is why they did it this way. But that's not the case for phone. Phone doesn't look or work like this
00:45:46 ◼ ► anymore. Right. Where like on the phone now favorites and reasons are on the same view, right? Because so they could do the same here, couldn't they? Where, well, what they've probably done there is like, that's the old phone layout, whatever, but you could still do this, right? You could split up messages and have one tab called pinned and then one tab called recents. I think that would solve your problem. I think that's a really good solution for this.
00:46:13 ◼ ► Yeah. I think it would work too because what they've built so far in 26 doesn't match anything. But yeah, like the pinned messages are up there, but the width is based on the width of the screen.
00:46:25 ◼ ► And so they're not in place and the names get truncated, which doesn't happen. They get, they do get truncated on the Apple watch. If you go to your, your pinned messages on the Apple watch, that display is also terrible, but like, I can't like the articles about CarPlay. Uh, it's the thing I care more about than the messages app on watchOS. Um, but I hope they, I hope they resolve it and I get it. I'm sure it's challenging to design for CarPlay, but this isn't it. This one needs a little more time.
00:47:00 ◼ ► So our, our daughter, uh, just got her learner's permit so she can drive with me or my wife in the car. She can't drive on her own. She has to drive with a parent, which is horrifying. But it means in a year, about a year, she'll be able to drive on her own. Right. And so like, I'm like, okay, we're going to become a three car family. Right. And so in thinking through like, what would I get for her as a, as a car?
00:47:28 ◼ ► Cause I love car shopping. It's basically my favorite thing to do. Um, like I just look at cars and bids and bring a trailer like every day. And just like, what if I bought this? What if I need that? I never, I never act on these urges. That's not true.
00:47:41 ◼ ► We've never been a three car. Oh, that's also not true. We were a three, a three car family for a little while.
00:47:48 ◼ ► Um, but then we sold the Jeep. Um, I had a, I owned half a Grand Wagoneer for a while. It was glorious.
00:47:57 ◼ ► Sometimes I still see a Grand Wagoneer. I'm like, I need some wood paneling in my life.
00:48:10 ◼ ► But in thinking about what to buy her when it's time for her to drive, like it's obviously going to be a used car, right? I'm going to find something older with some miles because first cars end up, you know, getting dings and that sort of thing.
00:48:23 ◼ ► I will get something with CarPlay or something I can put CarPlay in because I, I think it genuinely is the best way to have a phone interface in a car.
00:48:34 ◼ ► And I don't want her on her phone in the car. I want, if she needs maps or something, I want her to have Siri and CarPlay and as what she has in the other two cars. And so it is important to me. I would not drive something without it. I don't think.
00:49:00 ◼ ► Is there something like, is there like a car that you could imagine could exist that would pull you away? Or is it just like, is that like a no-go?
00:49:08 ◼ ► I mean, for a modern car, I think it's a no-go. Like, I'm interested in a Rivian, but not really realistic for me, I don't think.
00:49:17 ◼ ► Um, if I were to buy something old, like if I were to, you know, act on my impulse and like buy an old Forerunner from the 90s or something, uh, I don't, uh, that would be.
00:49:30 ◼ ► Okay. Like if, as long as I can have a way to like play music, right. Via Bluetooth or something, um, or like a tape deck Bluetooth thing, that would be fine in a certain type of vehicle that I'm very likely never to own again.
00:49:44 ◼ ► But anything that I was going to drive as like, as my car, you know, to replace my Tacoma with something I would want, I would want CarPlay. I really don't know what would pull me away.
00:49:56 ◼ ► Hmm. Okay. I mean, I, um, the majority of life experience I've had with CarPlay has been in your car, like your various cars and you do use it a lot and it does look good.
00:50:09 ◼ ► Like when I see you using it, it's like, Oh, this actually does look like pretty nice UI. If your car supported it, would you use CarPlay Ultra? Would you let it take over everything?
00:50:20 ◼ ► Um, I just watched MKBG's review about that last night. Um, he had, he had the Aston Martin with it. It looks really cool. And I think, uh, I think it's really interesting, but I think it's going to ship on like two cars and then slowly disappear.
00:50:33 ◼ ► Yeah. It seems like more and more companies are like, yeah, no, we're not going to do that.
00:50:37 ◼ ► Yeah. Which I understand from that perspective. I think it's, uh, I don't think that's a decision that's as short-sighted as GM saying we're not having CarPlay in our EVs. Like that blows my mind. Um, CarPlay, having CarPlay and going in CarPlay Ultra, very different.
00:50:54 ◼ ► Yes. Right. Very, very different. Cause like you're, you've decided that your, your UI design team is bad. Like that's essentially the decision that you're making.
00:51:09 ◼ ► And like, even if your design is bad, a lot of people struggle with that kind of thing. Right. Like it's the same, it's kind of the same question as like going all in on liquid glass. Right. Which is, it's like a lot of companies aren't going to do that.
00:51:21 ◼ ► They're just not going to do that. Cause it's like, well, we design the way we design. We don't need Apple to do all of our design for us. Um, even though, you know, of course you can do some customization with CarPlay Ultra, but you can't think about it however you want.
00:51:35 ◼ ► Right. Um, and it's interesting too, liquid glass is very downplayed in CarPlay 26. Like if you look at these two screenshots, like it's not a lot of glass. It looks kind of just looks like iOS 18.
00:51:48 ◼ ► iOS 18. Yeah. Um, probably best for a car. Let's, if we're going to, I tell you what, if we're going to go for maximum legibility anywhere, CarPlay is the place to do it. Yep. Um, and I'm, I'm okay with it. I really am. Uh, so yeah, that's, uh, that's CarPlay and iOS 26. I hope it gets better.
00:52:07 ◼ ► So there was some more rumors, um, about this 12.9 inch MacBook. This is the one that could potentially feature an iPhone chip or some description, probably the 18 pro, but I don't know. Um, but the piece of information that came out this week was the price is expected to be five 99 to six 99.
00:52:26 ◼ ► This came from originally, I mean, she quote said some of this, and then this is DigiTimes. Yeah. They're kind of from, um, supply chain sources. Uh, that would also feature a 12.9 inch display still on target for 25, uh, early 26. What do you think about this kind of selection? Does that pricing kind of thing make you happy? What do you think about the smallest green too?
00:52:48 ◼ ► Yeah. I think the pricing is, is spot on. I mean, the, the M one MacBook air at Walmart is six 49 or six 99 kind of depending on what day it is, sometimes even less. And obviously that that's a machine that Apple probably wants to retire. And so replacing that at the same price point or a little below is great. And, you know, five 99 to six 99, maybe it's like the Walmart M one and, and, you know, it ends up kind of in the middle most of the time.
00:53:17 ◼ ► So the price seems great to me. It's really compelling. I think to have an entry level laptop that does cost so much less that isn't just the old one. And you got to remember we are coming up. It's, it's really hard to believe we were coming up on five years since the Apple Silicon transition started. Yep. The M one came out in the fall of 2020, which I can't, I honestly cannot believe has only been five years, but also has just been five years.
00:53:46 ◼ ► It feels like it feels too short and too long at the same time. Post COVID. How does time work? Right. And the M one air has been great. And I think it's still a really good computer, but is definitely older. And so to replace it with something that's a bit more modern at the same price point, seems like a great win.
00:54:08 ◼ ► Uh, the screen size, uh, the screen size. I'm a little less enthusiastic about for a long time, the MacBook air and even like the white and black plastic MacBooks were 13.3 inches.
00:54:22 ◼ ► And the current, you know, slim design, the, the M two and three and four, that is 13.6 inches, I believe. So 12.9 is smaller, noticeably smaller than the current MacBook air, but it's a little less noticeably small than the M one.
00:54:41 ◼ ► And, um, it may be a little tight for some people, but if that's what helps them bring, keep this price point low, then I understand the trade off. And it, it, even though it's kind of a middle ground, like this isn't a 12.9 inches.
00:54:57 ◼ ► It's not the ultra portable MacBook that I think was 12.1 inches. You know, the one that introduced the butterfly keyboard and USB-C really just a cursed laptop in many ways. If you think about it, this is not an ultra portable, but it's a little bit smaller than the MacBook air.
00:55:13 ◼ ► And if you think about students and schools and commuters and like putting these in the hands of like a sales force of people, you know, going out in the world for your business, like I think you'd probably get the job done just fine.
00:55:26 ◼ ► Uh, I'm definitely very curious to see how this, how this goes because a new entry level Mac laptop doesn't happen very often. Really? It hasn't happened in the modern era, hardly at all, because that 12 inch MacBook was expensive.
00:55:42 ◼ ► And then they goofed around with the MacBook air and almost killed it. And it's this new territory. And so that, that is very exciting to me to watch.
00:55:50 ◼ ► Yeah. I mean, I wonder, I wonder where these, what these displays are. Like my thought was originally, it's like an iPad display or something like 12.9 is just odd. It's just like an odd choice to me. Like you, you'd think that Apple would have a pretty good flow of 13 point, whatever inch screens. Like it's, I don't know.
00:56:12 ◼ ► Why they would make it smaller. I don't know how realistic, how much cheaper is it to have like a slightly smaller display. Maybe it's just purely a differentiation point that they want to have.
00:56:22 ◼ ► Like the cheapest one is the littlest one. Um, I, I wonder if like, so, you know, you saying about the M1 made me kind of remember slash realize about the, Adina's using the M1, like the original M1.
00:56:35 ◼ ► And like her whole thing is like, she just doesn't want to upgrade because she doesn't like the way that the M2 generation looks. She thinks it looks too big and bulky, which is fascinating because it's not right.
00:57:16 ◼ ► Like I said to her, I was like, yes, it's thinner on one edge, but the other edge is thicker than the, my one.
00:57:21 ◼ ► And I just think, but anyway, so like the reason it's like, I kind of actually now hope that it will have a thin wedge shape because then this is a computer she could eventually move to in the future.
00:57:33 ◼ ► Because when it comes to the time that we do have to upgrade her, it's going to be complicated, you know?
00:57:38 ◼ ► And also, you know, whoever it was that wrote that, uh, the op-ed for the wedge design on the verge will get a treat for themselves when this, this laptop comes around.
00:57:48 ◼ ► That is on my short list for the most ridiculous thing I'd read about the Mac in a long time.
00:58:31 ◼ ► But really, that's, this MacBook Air is getting ready to be handed over, I think, for it to be the third kid computer.
01:00:38 ◼ ► And look, I understand that, like, the majority of problems I'm having is when I'm doing something
01:01:10 ◼ ► Because I stopped doing it because it became difficult when trying to sell products on.
01:01:39 ◼ ► I often forget as a Mac Mini and think is a Mac Studio that sits here and it does its thing.
01:01:49 ◼ ► And, like, sometimes it's easier for me to do something at home for an hour than it would
01:02:15 ◼ ► Uh, I certainly had, like, a flashback to, uh, Gray blowing up a 12-inch MacBook editing
01:02:28 ◼ ► And that was after, as well, like, so around the same time that, uh, I was trying to export
01:02:56 ◼ ► I loved that computer, like, the idea of it, but, and Mary had one for a while, because
01:03:14 ◼ ► She's changed her tune a little bit about screen size, but it's, uh, yeah, it was rough.
01:03:40 ◼ ► I mean, I think it's just going to have to be one of those things that I'll just have to
01:03:49 ◼ ► be slow, like, things are going to go weird, or I've got to, like, close a bunch of apps.
01:03:54 ◼ ► Yeah, I don't, I, or just try and find out, like, do I have some kind of errant piece of
01:04:07 ◼ ► Like, you know, I understand how to use Activity Monitor, but there's just stuff in Activity
01:04:11 ◼ ► Monitor, which something's doing this, but I don't know what it is that's making this happen.
01:04:51 ◼ ► Because if there are features that I like, then I might put it on the Mac Mini after a week
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01:08:20 ◼ ► You get the feeling that things are floating atop the UI more so than anywhere else, which is not what I anticipated feeling.
01:08:30 ◼ ► But when you pull down notification, it feels like a little blob of water on top of your watch face.
01:08:52 ◼ ► An interesting part of it, and Zach Hall pointed this out, there was an onboarding video in iOS, iPadOS, and Tahoe, walking you through parts of liquid glass.
01:09:13 ◼ ► I did not anticipate them adding something to the setup process, like showing you parts of the user interface and how they work.
01:09:56 ◼ ► But if you don't like liquid glass, or you think it's a failure, you're like, oh, gosh, they have to explain to you how to use it.
01:10:19 ◼ ► When you redesign the operating system, the first time you see that should not be on your own device.
01:10:29 ◼ ► And so, I mentioned, I'll come back to this later, one of the things they walk through in this onboarding on the phone
01:10:45 ◼ ► It's like, there's a few things that it goes through about, like, what it's going to look like.
01:11:08 ◼ ► The splash screen, when you first open, like, notes or reminders, it's got a little panel
01:12:27 ◼ ► And before people will correct you, the visual intelligence they're showing off is not the
01:12:37 ◼ ► But they're not showing the screenshot thing, just the camera control thing, which I don't
01:13:07 ◼ ► And I think that what they've done, and I'll have a link in the show notes to a 9 to 5 Mac
01:13:14 ◼ ► It does feel like they've done a bunch of tweaks to legibility in some apps where there's
01:13:53 ◼ ► But just in general, though, like, I feel like I've become a bad judge of this because I just
01:14:36 ◼ ► It's like the little glass magnifying thing you'd look through and you'd look at like a
01:14:50 ◼ ► Which is weird because I actually really, I really like having preview on the iPhone and
01:15:29 ◼ ► Like I tap a PDF and what I want is just to quick look the PDF, which I feel like I get
01:16:05 ◼ ► I mean, I needed a PDF the other day and I just had my phone, but it was saved in files.
01:16:28 ◼ ► That was when it was useful to me, but I think especially on the iPad, like marking up PDFs
01:16:53 ◼ ► I like that it's when it covers a photo now, cause when I'm recording, I have, um, a photo
01:17:06 ◼ ► Um, so I think that looks fun, but in general, I, I, on my standard wallpaper, uh, I made the
01:17:23 ◼ ► I'm not a big, big clock user, but I haven't also like reworked my couple of lock screens.
01:18:03 ◼ ► So like, it kind of just makes sense to have all that stuff kind of like grouped together.
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