00:00:00 ◼ ► right so last episode I mentioned that at my alma mater which is Virginia Tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/0">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► they have been requiring tablets for a while and when I say tablets I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/7">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► mean iPads I mean honest to god that was awful Microsoft quasi computers not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/13">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► surface like the real old Microsoft tablets and so I got some feedback I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/18">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► some from just graduated recently graduated student alan fuller and I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/24">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► some from somebody who is associated with the teaching part of the college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/28">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► region very small excerpt of what Joseph said he said I teach electrical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► engineering and I can tell you that most of the students here heat those required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/38">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► tablet PCs that they are all required to buy more expensive and less capable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/43">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► purposes for everything to be submitted electronically but it failed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► spectacularly at this that I have died just have them print everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/51">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► submit hard copies I suspect half of them are browsing Facebook during class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► anyway and I thought that was kind of interesting and and in different that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/59">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► here it is the school if you ask me was trying to be progressive and say let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/64">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► do this wild thing with these tablets and as it turns out apparently everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/69">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► hates him anyway which is of no great surprise but I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► interesting I think it's a disease to like I mean I think we are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/75">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► especially John we're all old enough that we we didn't really have computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/80">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► really that prevalent in classrooms when we were in college and certainly high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► school I don't they do that in high school yet but you know we didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► they do make not everybody was having laptops on their desk in college when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/94">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► were there is a fair for you also Casey I know it's fair for john has like 50 we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/98">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► did not have laptops in in high school when I was in high school however the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/104">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► school in which my wife teaches actually made national news many many years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► because I like 10 years ago because they used to have called the MacBooks before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/112">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► their Matt I box they they used to have I books and they sold them for $50 a pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/119">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► after they've been used by like middle schoolers for a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/123">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► and they sold them at the Richmond International Raceway the NASCAR track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► and apparently there were like stampedes in order to yeah that's that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/129">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► the school district in which aaron teaches so how about that but to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/134">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► day they have really crummy Dell's that all the kids get issued and from what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/138">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► understand it's a double-edged sword I can't imagine getting anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► paying attention just go to school at all if I was in high school with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/146">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► laptop with an Internet connection without internet just I paid just how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/150">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► would you ever pay attention to class right I mean like I remember that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► was in my senior year of college we had one class that wasn't a brand new lab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/158">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► with all these Linux desktops and I spent so much time playing same know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/164">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► browsing the internet and not not at all paying attention in class and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/170">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► lucky that even being a computer science student most of the classrooms didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/175">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► have computers and they just like regular classrooms with desks and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/180">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► would take notes if you were a good student or you would stare at the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/183">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► at me and the idea of like having those I i would not have some control and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/186">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► would imagine if I i no i didnt want when I had the opportunity senior year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/192">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► didn't have that self-control and I looked around the room and no one else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► to him and I have to imagine that's probably gonna be a pretty common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/200">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► problem as computers infiltrate and become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► probably already are everyday items now in college classrooms the problem of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/209">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► Virginia Tech things it's like a mini tell effect where a school thanks our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/214">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► technology and you know this is the next big thing and the mistake they make is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/219">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► saying and that not just that we're gonna require another computer or this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► year are required at this computer but like they think they're gonna do they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/226">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► gonna do it like they do with desks like we've decided that this is the best ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/230">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► for our school and got this job on this site and has this place fear books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/233">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► we're gonna order 500 I'm gonna use it for the next twenty years and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/237">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► decided to whatever you know this little flip around screen tablet PC thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/241">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► that's the future and they just went with it and they expected to be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/244">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► standardized going foreign and that's tough without sleep before it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► arrives at the school due to like the delays and purchase orders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/251">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► after they realized they are after everyone after all the students realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/256">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► that they're terrible mistake you know they are we you know don't this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/259">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► terrible don't do this it doesn't work does make our lives easier these crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► computers they don't say oh yeah now we gotta stop that and keep going with it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/266">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► will get the new version that tablet PC so it's a combination of elements of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/271">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► like now refusing to admit your mistakes and not realizing that standardizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/275">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► that degrees or is going to come back and bite you and the many tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► computer the head and France I don't know someone in the chatroom can look it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/282">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► up on Wikipedia are better but for a long time it was you know it was good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/286">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► and I like everyone had France France could get him in detail and get down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/291">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► the social networking do interesting things that you don't have the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/294">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► countries but it's bad and it lasted forever and it was just an embarrassment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► a joke obviously the government doing it as the worst case scenario in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/300">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► standardizing universally and being out of date and taking forever to arrive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/304">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► not being able to take some mistakes but university is a nice step down from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/309">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► one to be fair Virginia secondly mandated tablets for the engineers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/313">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► they've been mandating computers in general for incoming students for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/319">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► something like twenty or thirty years I think was like mid-eighties that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/323">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► started mandating that all the students would have to have computers but it is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/326">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► i agree with you john that its I think them saying who this tablet thing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/331">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► is progressive and exciting and were progressives were progressive school and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► it ends up by him in the butt and nobody is got the confidence to hit the brakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► and say man maybe this is bad and also consider that these are purchased by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/342">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► these are everyone has to buy their own machine they take it so much money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/349">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► you anyway you can feel bad but it also feels bad buying hundreds of dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/353">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► with the stupid books that stirred by bucks to buy books oh yeah and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/359">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► pull the same crap with lake with two by two professors own book and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/365">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► have to buy like the the spiral bound like Xerox files that are some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/371">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► things like it and and then of course they have the the used book ordeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/376">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► there's no better word for it just a giant scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/380">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► its I mean that's you know I wonder that this has been a big problem that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/386">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► probably beyond the scope of the show but you know there's a problem now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/391">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► college being worth it or not and I don't know how much this has been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/396">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► problem in the past but it seems like a combination of surprisingly dramatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/401">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► increasing tuition in the last decade or so and then that the economy being so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/409">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► seems like colleges actually becoming a worse and worse deal for students I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► I probably be honest competition you know all these things add up and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/420">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► gotta figure specialize in our industry where so many people get by just fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/426">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► without a college degree doesn't really help when you're starting out but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/430">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► can make it work and it's a private colleges probably state schools I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/435">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► even though the funding is being massively / for them I think you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/441">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► mad I would say you know you're better off going to the cheapest possible state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/444">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► school that you can get into it then not because your student debt won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/449">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► astronomical I can be if you go someplace that cost you 60 grand a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► or something like that UN + like you know if if your boss is somebody like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/456">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► who was pretty much a slacker and just barely got through school I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/461">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► care what school you went to leave I'm reviewing your resume I do whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/465">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► school you went to a probably haven't heard of any matter how did it was so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► don't know I don't care I have to imagine it's probably true of many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/473">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► the like mid-level a high-level bosses and tech companies especially smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/476">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► companies run by younger people I have to imagine that a certain size though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/481">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► they do the stupid filtering like they just wanted to grieve for you the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/486">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► level ihr passes just doesn't have a degree in something vaguely related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/490">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► that's stupid you could say that's not the way you run a company but once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/495">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► companies reduce certain size they start doing stupid things and that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/500">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► guess I guess this is probably true in most tech jobs if you have to if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/504">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► want a job at a place that has an H R Department you're better off making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/509">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► something that they can buy the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/513">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► give a better chance of them buying your startup that he do of getting through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► the AHR departments automatic filters and all the keyword filtering and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/519">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► recruiters and all that crap most people don't miss a thing most people don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► through that gone but most people get into companies like that because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/528">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► know someone who's there are you know they they someone inside the company you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/533">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► know starts to know them online and on Twitter or something and you bypass some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/538">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► are all that idiotic process by someone inside the company just bring him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/542">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► action at church sacristy yeah and that's how people get hired referrals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/547">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► friends stuff like that and those type of things I don't think I've ever gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/554">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► the job by like just going through the front door maybe once in my life I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/559">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► job I just going through the front door and every other time it's like you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► know someone inside the company or you get to know someone inside the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/568">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► or know someone who knows someone and then you bypass all that BS and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/571">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► you know instead of having to jump through stupid hurdles in past keyword [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/576">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► filters actually how I got my job which became tumblr was exactly just applying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/580">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► like David posted a Craigslist ad looking for programmers and I responded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/588">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► and that was mostly I don't think I've ever gotten a job that way and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/593">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► way a real-time follow-up as her Twitter not the chatroom and disappointed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/598">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► Jaguar useless chat room on 0845 either I never liked on the five by five people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/602">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► jacks phone call these ppl jackals either of these awesome our friend he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/610">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► awesome friends in the chatroom let us down already but I just endearing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/615">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► Twitter said I was a freshman in ninety-seven it wasn't mandated than was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/619">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► recommended and so I quickly looked and according to tack it wasn't all 98 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/623">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► since 1982 coming undergraduate student had been required to own personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/627">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► so real-time problem but I know I've never done a job to my knowledge I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/632">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► got a job just by cold calling someone has always been a friend of a friend or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/637">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► something along those lines I just got me in the door so I'm a little surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/640">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► markets and I think I knew that story but I'm a little surprised at how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/644">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► ended up as well that was like my my first job even that like my first job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/647">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► out of college at the visa mo even that was a friend already birthday Aaron got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/652">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► me an interview like it was like it's it's so much more important with who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/657">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► know the David Ville that became tumblr job that was a fluke that doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/661">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► ever happen but it was total fluke I don't think he had a jar department that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/665">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► girl bypassing if they're not exactly i mean that's like he he emailed from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/669">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► addy requested a code sample I should have some PHP code written was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/676">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► for and that was it an email me two books on Ruby on Rails and said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/680">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► started a few weeks get up to speed on the stuff and that was it but I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/685">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► think one of the reasons that worked one of the reasons that that was a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/690">TS</a>]
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00:15:10 ◼ ► hosting email as mail route nose and as they as they solve for a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/910">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► hosting email is such a pain because you can set it up and you think it's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/915">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► but once you start getting into the complexities things like spam filtering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/921">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► being being blacklisted her black hole or whatever is gray listing all the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/925">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► the crazy complexity that we've added to our email infrastructure to usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/930">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► responds to spammers security problems it makes hosting your own and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/935">TS</a>]
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00:15:44 ◼ ► the graph showing like number of incoming house for dinner was labeled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/944">TS</a>]
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00:16:00 ◼ ► of the graph or two gigantic towers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► there like the height of the screen there were all the color of spam with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/962">TS</a>]
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00:16:32 ◼ ► is don't post your own mail if you can help it is hosting your mail sucks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/992">TS</a>]
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00:16:47 ◼ ► do not host your own mail that as it is such a world of hurt to use a Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► her bag of her bag of such a bag of hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1012">TS</a>]
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00:17:19 ◼ ► would leak in an email or a comment somewhere on the earnings call or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► something somebody would ask about something some competitors stupid thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1044">TS</a>]
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00:17:53 ◼ ► quote from some random ppl like they're very controlled about their messaging so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1073">TS</a>]
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00:20:50 ◼ ► rest of the week and weekend crying miserably about how I didn't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► ticket to get one like two hours last year something if we're just prefer all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1253">TS</a>]
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00:21:15 ◼ ► the service could stay up we could and if they do presumably everyone has their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1275">TS</a>]
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00:21:51 ◼ ► email John but no anyway crap I totally lost my train of thought and now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► well you know and I would imagine that I mean so what happened today to recap for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► people listening in the far future is for I believe the first time ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► necessary for the last 25 years or so but for the first time Apple announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► WDC and it's it's dates and its availability before the tickets were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► actually available to buy and so they've said basically buy tickets tomorrow at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► this time and so it it solves a lot of problems it in previous years like last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► year two years ago tickets sold out in about 12 hours last year tickets sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► out in about two hours and IV n last year they the best time to release a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► press release in in the PR industry is about 8:30 in the morning so Apple tends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► to ship out all their press releases and the new product announcements and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► they tend to lift embargoes at like 830 1 a.m. and generally want to do this not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1375">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► a Monday you can help it caused a lot of competition from things that built up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► over the weekend on Monday for coverage you don't want to compete with that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► also want to on Friday because on Friday your back into the weekend a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► people aren't paying attention and is not gonna be a lot of time 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► announced to for people to write up like reactions and they're gonna have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► weekend and the final forget about it so generally want to do it early in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► week but not Monday so things are usually announced on Tuesdays or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► Wednesdays and so it was pretty easy to predict that the announcement of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► conference was probably gonna happen again just like it did the year before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► probably gonna happen again at a few minutes after 8:30 in the morning on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► Tuesday or Wednesday and sure enough it did end and it did it right after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► day after the earnings call and there's there's the details of this there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► SEC quiet period guidelines and I i'm not qualified and neither you guys as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► far as I know none of us are qualified to talk about whether Apple is required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► to stay silent but they're not required as it's not even an SEC thing is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► something that people do it's like a guideline or practice yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► defacto thing as far as I know I don't even think the SEC recommends is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► what everybody does in once everybody does it by not doing it you would stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► out but I don't think the SEC tells you that you should or even recommends that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► you do well it's kind of it's it's almost requisite you're right it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► required but it's almost requisite in my dad actually works for investor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► relations for a really really big company and so he would be qualified in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► NI he's been doing this for many many years including the time I i lived with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► him when I was in high school and whatnot and my understanding is that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► you say anything truly reformed in earnings announcement it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► reasonably be construed to affect the result of those earnings and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► would be releasing insider information before the company has released their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► earnings and does it the logical thing to do is for all these companies to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► shut the crap up for like two or three weeks I don't remember how long it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► but some duration of time before earnings so this way there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► slip-ups in saudi appoint Marco it seems reasonable that even though WBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► on the surface doesn't seem like it would affect the stock price or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► like that it for the last couple of years it's been announced the day after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► right and so it was it was fairly easy to predict that the announcement was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► going to happen this morning but nobody was pretty and I heard a few rumors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► a few other people to do but nobody was predicting that this would happen where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► the announcement was indeed at 42 time but the on-sale date of the ticket is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► going to be tomorrow and it's all water problems one of the problems with last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► year's the people complain about a lot it because it was 830 in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► eastern it really screwed the Pacific coast because by the time they all woke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► up it was sold out so it was kind of rough on people in the pacific time zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► and of course all times around the world to know if if if 8:30 a.m. Eastern which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► is Jim T minus five is in the middle of the night for you and your time zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► your kind of screwed so this was a really good way to do it I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► are so special to me that maybe they will have a lottery employees I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► actually very glad they don't have that because I know I would lose it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► losing drawings and raffles and things you and me both yeah so you know I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► glad there's not a lottery thing or at least at least they aren't all lottery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► sales but while you're glad now will you be glad it's terrible because you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► he wants some system that is not you don't want to be random you want some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► system that has some kind of like merit-based selection process even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► that Meredith who who is who wants it the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► who is willing to wake up in the know that who is willing to settle things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► moderate like maybe that's not the best way to do it like this the way anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► you know anything in life is who wants it the most and if those people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► first to complain no fair I don't wanna statement though and I well I guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► don't want it as much as other person like that is so much better than random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► because then you and your friends can band together and be idiots and stamp in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► the middle of the night on the outside world and get tickets and you could all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► go together as if it's a lottery maybe you get to go but you to friends don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► and then you have a worse experience in the system right so we don't know yet we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► know we will know in less than 24 hours whether the three of us are going or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► or whether some subset of us are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► but get a problem is like you know the old system was it gave more room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► people who really really cared about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► to have an advantage because we would be predicting the times and we would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► waking up early every day to every day in April basically and you know we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► be weird be the ones like setting up monitoring systems and hammering the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► page to see when it changes so certainly you know now that they've done is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► it so that you don't have to pay much attention to have a chance at it so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► is more fair in the sense that it will give way more people who are interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► a chance of getting tickets at the expense of crazy nerds like us who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► always somebody else to France for seniors crazy geeks like us to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► badly yeah sometimes I don't I don't agree with him but okay it's okay I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► think you're qualified to to set the world so anyway we you know nerds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► us are now at a slight disadvantage that there's gonna be more competition from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► people who care little bit less about it or who or who would have otherwise been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► awake at that time anyways so the only reason it's slightly worse for us is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► that like it's brought a few more people into the fold people who really do wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► go but like they're learning things didn't work or they were asleep but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► didn't hear the phone go off like those people who kind of unfairly got screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► last year they are now competing with us but I think it's reasonable it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► than that though because when I went two years ago when I went in 2011 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► my might then employers who I don't work for an employer was probably going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► fund my trip and when the tickets went on sale I needed to go get final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► approval Marco you spoke about this at some point or another in the past I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► to go get final approval from my boss in order to spend a whole bunch of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► and now all those people who are in that situation they've done that today so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► the point of going to occur when I lost my train of thought is I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► the gentleman who did the painting jump the line alert system said he had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► twenty thousand people in his alert you and there's something to the order of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► from our friends in the chatroom 5,000 tickets that you can buy and show even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1796">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► if even if it's the same system that handles millions of iPhone orders when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► you're still talking about a whole crapload of people trying to vie for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► 5,000 seats and that's just I'm really scared that's not gonna end well for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► yet actually that's a bigger ratio than I would have expected because you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► figure like not everybody who wants to buy tickets even sign up for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► you know there's probably some percentage of them who did but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► know all the good thing is that this year Apple says they're going to release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► the videos during the conference so they won't be live-streamed I assume but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► maybe you feel like the day after or something so and also you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► think we're the only people who get their videos with the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► actually attended WotC which was incredibly stupid so now if you were to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► snap a developer they just a registered developer resume me to pay developed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► their iOS or the Mac and you want to see WWE sessions I assume there while Darius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► is going on during that week they will slowly be doling out downloads on iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► you know and i dont University but anyway the place where you can download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► videos through iTunes WABC only they'll come out as WNBC happens instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► having to wait a week or two weeks regime in a week or two week isn't a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► deal but like this take some of the sting out and hopefully will discourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► people I try to just going to be willing to put her expensive you have to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► know if you don't live in the area you know by our hotel for a week and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► have to buy the ticket which is not cheap it's a lot of money so stay home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► and you get almost all the experience from home just watch the videos and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► like if I don't get a ticket it's not going to be the end of the world to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► because that's will be what I do I'm estas a week off from work but thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► let's say you would take a week off of work to sit in your house and watch his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► videos like anything about that is you would think that would work out fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► the main problem is that the videos would end up being released I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► I don't know what kind of like there but like the amount of time I can dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► to watch WEC videos is much smaller kids at a house in the morning I could come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► home when your W C you can just dedicate your heads down whole life to to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► ignore you see I mean like so far every year that I've gone gone from four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► now every year there have been a few sessions where like they were double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► booked again something else I wanted to go to so I I made a note I told myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► I'm gonna go and watch this video when it comes out of this other one that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► not gonna see now I think I might have watched like two or three videos after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► the fact total and usually that was only because I was about to or already coding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► and some API that the videos were about I want to look something up or go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► to a movie of a session I already did see live remember like oh yeah how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► they do this one thing like the scroll recession I was going to be pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► stuff and there's time for reference purposes but I'm never gonna like make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► two hours and sit down and watch a couple of these things I've got the WTC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► 2003 DVD to my right I kept it because it came in a metal box enough people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► remember that and you know I and the first time I went it was two years ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► was never actually able to go but I knew people who went or do people who could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► have gone but got the DVD set aside as part of the deal member Marco you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► probably weren't around when they had the name right I think it was there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► different ABC levels of selected premier yeah I came in right as I was about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► end so I did see it and it was it was like five hundred thousand and three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► thousands of my bad I think it was just selectors 500 and premier I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► for some of the shower and that was like four digits and remember what it was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► when you got was like one WTC take it and you got the DVDs and you got like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► was you got lots of stuff I and so many I got I got you get a big discount and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► yeah I know and a big that's the whole reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► can you get a couple hundred bucks it would go in together and have a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► different hardware discounts on the web but all I have that DVD set and doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► back on days when I get this DVD set tonight to watch every single session [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► just about every single wanna go through in order and these days when I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► attend I don't obviously do that because a lot of them I was there for us I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► watch them again but I will go back and look at the ones that I didn't see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► the only thing I start skipping now is like now that it's like that attracts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► like web development company like I'm not going to watch those and even some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► of the iOS ones I'll skip because I mostly in there for the Mac West End [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► stuff it used to be when I was just Mac and there wasn't like a track about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► CSS or high DPI images rather esoteric things that I may not really be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► Apple's wheelhouse and you could have learned about her may have already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► learned about the ones I would just watch every single session and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► sounds boring but I find maybe I'm gonna get as I'm getting older I have less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2095">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► time for that because the kids take a lot of time and everything but I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► just that's the way I would consume things when I was getting into a hobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► or something I would read everything there was to read about that happy when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► I was learning units I just bought or other books and read them from cover to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► cover and today you read toaster manuals of those are much shorter than I i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► your next article twice I remember going to get in the end of that going back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► the beginning of a small book will you make an interesting point Marconi said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► that jokingly but I really shouldn't say this on the show will come out after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► fact that doesn't matter but part of the part of the draw wEDC is the experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► you have outside of the sessions and sessions are unbelievable and my two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► years of going to WTC of only skipped three or four sessions are three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► slots I guess I should say and and some of the best experiences I've had though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► our networking with people like for example I met David Smith there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► David just pointed out in the chatroom that the gentleman whose first name I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► don't know how to pronounce his surname is prindiville who ran the DEC alert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► apparently he only had six hundreds of subscribers which is a lot better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► the twenty thousand apparently invented out of thin air so so that meant that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► the case scenario isn't quite so bad i remember i think thats 20,000 number I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► remember last year when I don't they did it did the WBC alerts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► it was oversubscribed yet that the Twitter thing had something like twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► thousand I forget the exact number but it was it was it was in that range you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► know and and so I thought it was eight but thousands maybe it was more than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► yeah I think last year they sold something like fifty five hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► tickets and and and they've been a number pretty comfortably or near that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► number pretty comfortably for enough time that we can be pretty sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► that's roughly what they think the maximum should be and N certainly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► going going there for the last few years you can see in moscow me it is packed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► full and it is so hard like it's a line after line for line you got a recession [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► it if you want to popular session if you wanna get in there even you know you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► have to get there like a half hour before it starts dancing long line which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► means you still might not get it right and it's it's really quite difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► to maneuver around the conference with the number they have now they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► certainly can't sell more tickets and keeping that menu is still not the max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► level of waiting but I don't I find that you don't usually have to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► skipped the previous session you'll just get a crappier seat Burris with pacs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► skip the previous two seconds to get mine had to skip such as far i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► if you want to get lunch session like the day it was when I was in line for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► that for like an hour and a half he always miss the crazy good friday have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► to fly out at like 1 p.m. yep same you do that to yourself I put my book my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► tickets the entire day to prepare my mind and body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► you stay on the front and yes I don't wanna say the extra night and I for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► love of all that's good and holy I did not want to do a red-eye yeah I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► never do read i believe i won I want all my flights to be a noon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► that's the way it's not always possible but that's what I'm shooting for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► travel and I don't want to wake up early in the morning so David Smith just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► in the chat room conte's my best friend he just said that WTF the original WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► alerts this is the unpaid completely free one was around 9,000 that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► actually pretty sure showdown and over doesn't mean you in both of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► showcases then no it wasn't within $100 start our second sponsor for the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► this week is another new sponsor it is however however dot com cover is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► simple domain registrar now these are both geek sponsors we have this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► it's awesome of course the geek show now let me tell you you know however some me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► some bullet points and I i can read some of them here and there but the fact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► they know why I basically told them you know they asked me to do it do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► enough to read for the ad and I said yes because i dont have a customer and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► previously used other domain registrars the area that was it because it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► hard to find a buddy who likes the domain registrar alot and the reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► is because it's generally a terrible business it's full of weird just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► constant commodity bargain-basement price saying that followed by various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► oftentimes really sleazy waste make additional money for the record store on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► top of that and I'm not going to name names here because who cares but you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► know you other registrars and talk about like they were not the alcohol one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► there is there is one that if you search for a name just to see if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► available they would register for like they would they would horrify two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► you had to go through them and pay their extra high price for it like that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► the time crazy up selling tactics it's terrible however is clean it's simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► and it's a powerful domain name buying a management site it is really great from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► this this audience will know this number two cows the ultimate collection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► windows shareware I believe it was good for right now I don't remember what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► see and Tom Novy you should know I remember I don't know about windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► ok so they've been around forever it says somewhere here since 94 yards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► then you for that that's that's the I got my first computer for reference they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► they've been around forever Dave the cycle however is fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► go to hover dot com slash ATP that's how I dot com slash ATT and I'll get you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► discount off their prices I think it's something I 10% it's pretty great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► know they don't hide functionality behind a weird things to make it hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► find they don't like they don't heavy-handed Lee upsell you or cross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► sell you to various other crap they sell its just a really simple it is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► you'd expect a domain registrar to be if you design it like and if you hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► designed for me so go check out however I really can't recommend it enough I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► I have been with alot to me over the years they've been registering domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► since like 2000 and it takes like me to move because usually the kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► we're like you know you let things go to renew every year because it works as not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► getting in your way until you gotta do something like if you try to change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► DNS record you lose 20 years miller or something like that like you you go try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► to make a DNS entry or buy a new demeanor at a twenty year old demands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► with must register as you just wanna put your teeth out because it is so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► just such a terrible experience using their control panels and everything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► then you think all move someday and a new clothes at me forget and every every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► time you go in there you want to blow up the world but you know there's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► like pushing need to because you don't really know you know moving things suck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► so you don't really wanna know however actually offers a moving service it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► pretty awesome I can you know they they will you can I talk to someone on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► phone to move stuff for you it's pretty great I know my local place at this read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► but it's hard with with you know my first read of hover of news in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► yeah actually is almost over here and it's it's just a great site go register [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► com slash ATP and your credit us and don't know you came from here the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► sponsor show more in the future and they'll be even more awesome so thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► you very much tougher for sponsoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► so before we leave the WBC topic are either of you two gentlemen going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► if you don't get a ticket like John you said in all likelihood you'll probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► take off the time but you'll probably stay at home I can't justify going if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► don't get what I do for the week like although like you said that like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► the reasons that I am actually going is that I do have interactions with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► outside the sessions but it's mostly so that I can have a dedicated time where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► there's no distractions and no other demands on my time I'm just there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► attend sessions and secondarily at a close second is if after a session is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► over I just need one thing clarified its not clear from the notes the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► gave the presentation is at the front of the room and I can go ask him and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► third is the thing that people you meet outside and everything like and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► definitely true as well but like from for business purposes I guess later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► research purposes it depends on her meeting with i guess i meeting with big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► fancy people in super secret that yeah I get a lot of value out of those meetings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► but I know I can't bank on that I can't guarantee that I'm gonna have a private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► meeting with Tim Cook going on there so you can but I want me so I wouldn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► there with no ticket hoping that it just happened to catch you know craig Venter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► et on the steps of moscow me and benazir for 50 minutes because that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► not going to happen and i cant you know I'd like more importantly liked how can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► I justify it as a business expense for the purpose of writing my review if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► dont even have a ticket so it's kind of bogus oh yeah if I don't get a ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► and i cant for Nicola ticket through whatever crazy please somebody out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► any type of system then artists and watch the videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► yeah I don't know what I would do i mean i hopefully we won't have to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► this cuz will get tickets but if I don't get a ticket I might have a higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► chance of going based on what you get out but I still working I wouldn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► right now yes we definitely have a hotel reservation because it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► but I haven't the plane yet because like I'm not going to book a flight I'll pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► the extra couple hundred bucks that whatever the prices raised to tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► if I get the ticket rather than buy the plane ticket today on the off chance I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► don't get a ticket tomorrow we should tell everyone about that because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► that was a good three-way triumph of all of us having the wherewithal and guts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► actually buy our hotel tickets a month ahead of time everybody on March yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► forgot who initiated that but like you always hear that you can always look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► the schedule and and ballpark and you can tell you it's probably going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► like this week like every year that's been the case where you can look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► but it's one thing to look at the schedule and know that it's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► thing to actually pull the trigger get the tickets but like to point out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► you know it's a refundable 24 hours at a time so there's no risk in doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► except if it's some sort of hotel that has an annoying website that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► refunds annoying or you don't have any confidence that they're going to quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► process that are going to ShopRite stuff you go if you have a good hotel with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► reasonable websites worth doing and then you know so that we had our hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► reservations a month in advance and are actually were actually cheaper than even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► the Apple special reserving a block of rooms for you rates for so long and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► to answer the question I asked if the two of you I don't know what I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► to do if in when I don't get a ticket I have already established over fetal for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► about three or four days but a part of me thinks it's worth going to network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► it's worth going to see people to see the david smith's and and the Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► Dalrymple the world and in certainly to see Marco or John or whoever is out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► there but I don't know if I would go for the whole week our good friend David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► Smith friend of show David Smith has said he's going on I believe he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► intending to go for the whole week I don't know what I'm gonna do and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► such a wimp in so indecisive I can't figure out what I'm gonna do but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► mark when I maybe we'll commiserate maybe we'll celebrate on her now but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► do believe you do the whole like I guess the only advantage that you could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► could stay out all night which is not my thing even if that's your thing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► do that then sleep during the day to get a precise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► like that I guess if you just wanna go in like socializes people that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► if you're you wouldn't be getting anything done getting much done from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► business perspective unless you're going there to try to like I need a partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► for my new venture or I'm trying to you know recruited designer to help me and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► wanna talk to people and meet you like maybe I guess I am the wrong person to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► ask about what kind of business you can get a social interactions but I unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► you have money for 12 years and you don't have any of these nights a week of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► vacation time if you have a job and this is not part of your job you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► what else could use that week for what else could use that thousands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► thousands of dollars for you know it's a tough call you know you're absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► right but if it now this isn't oranges oranges comparison but if I wasn't at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► WBC was a 2011 and then firstly I wouldn't have met you and secondly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► wouldn't have been there with Marco and Merlin and a friend of mine Eric sure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► buy you a toaster so there's something to be said for these social interactions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► important I was one day they like I know a lot of people who are I don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► tickets to go but up for the whole week and that makes sense to be there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► like the keynote excitement and the few your range but your range with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► like oh we should go out tonight and then we should do other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► prevention got the next night you know and then you see the few people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► gonna see and then you're out of there well that's why I'm saying maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► wouldn't go for a whole week making this up and maybe I'd go you know arrived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► Sunday stay there Monday Tuesday and fly back Wednesday or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► tired just thinking about it and once again the thought of you know seeing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► these wonderful people who you love make you feel exhausted you may be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► introvert I'm excited I I really hope I'm in the morning about the more I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► like if I didn't have a ticket I would I would probably still go but I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► think it would suck you know because most conferences like South by Southwest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► is a joke you know like the sessions habit of us are terrible the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► you know that they're mostly panels were people just read Twitter and BS their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► way through and it's just as an audience member it's it's pretty hard it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► unusual to be an ass happens happens session that was worth your time they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► exist but they're certainly the minority and so that but that conference all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► about drinking and partying and socializing and so if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► happen Southwest ticket you'll still get almost all of the value of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► conference but wEDC for me at least is not that way it mean it does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► drinking and partying but for me that the great value of that conference is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► the sessions and and even the socializing happens in moscow me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► that I get usually that's a good point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► get more socializing done in like the chair areas of Moscone between sessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► or like if there's one scheduled Kapoor nothing really that great I'll go sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► down and no answer emails stuff and talk to peter out there and you want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► why because you can actually hear people right exactly like a social environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► of yelling at a bar by everyone's drunk is really not that you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► get the best of all the device for your favorite 2013 drinks like radio get tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► and rumors and you have the best trash talker but like that's the thing I'm out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► of a session like you know some session about scroll using something and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► just sitting next to someone who you want to talk to or you see someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► three rows away when you come out a session that's the perfect opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► to discuss ScrollView performance with a developer who you're lucky enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► meet in real life because that's in the front of their mind whereas if you call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► them in a bar later want to discuss preview performance taking to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► it's not the time for that now you know right it's a time for beer and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► trash-talking whoever you want to trash talk at that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► during you know complaining about Apple are you know a preview of whatever all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► the other things you do as well but there is something to be said for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► it's like an academic type contacts where you're learning about your craft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► and your business and that's valuable in like you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► people ask me why I go because I'm not developing an application but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► go for my review obviously but if you're actually making an application nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► meet so many developers with iOS and Mac her like this one session has made this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► entire thing worth it for me because now my god I can't wait to I can't wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► grab my laptop running back down to chair and implement this thing they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► showed because gonna make my life so much easier and I never realized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► there was so much better way to do this you know and as long as it's not an icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► session that usually turns out pretty well for the developer site so I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► I prolong the WBC talked for a long time and I feel like we're probably good here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► and so you'll see via Twitter whether or not any of the three of us got tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► and I'm sure if if i dont all the complaining and moaning like the like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► baby for weeks so let's hope let's hope for the good of the nation and the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3114">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► that I actually scored if we don't get tickets case it was a cynical hang out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► together and stared QuickTime videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► synchronized you might be joking I'm all in the split screen mode both watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► the same session at the same time laying in bed again you think you might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► joking but I'm not gonna the funny thing is I would actually be fairly productive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► dislike arranged like an East Coast meet up for level one week in August and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► watch the video has backed such as well go to the army compound there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► that's that's true the guest houses right mark estate something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► the only thing is it's actually Marco is in the middle of the three of us but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► what do you like two or three hours from John and eight from me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► generous I'm Way closer to your funny living down there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► of seventy mile per hour speed limit roads in your state so much West right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3174">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► in the real virginia also consider that anybody in West Virginia has right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► probably not I mean let's be realistic but also consider we're not a state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► where Commonwealth of Massachusetts differences it's just the residents can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► say that two people seriously so we can be obnoxious like that exactly like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► hipsters you would your state's yeah we were commonwealths before you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► states anyway we talked about tonight are we done we can do like another 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► minutes so if you want do you want to talk about why I think the earnings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► thing has a couple of interesting things about it but not not a whole lot first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► of all I'm glad that the stock price didn't totally just planet it seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► have stayed roughly the same which is itself into an embarrassing level but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► was expecting du mir because you know we've talked about in the past and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► learned a lot about how I think I think Apple is kind of stuck in this in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► rush of extremely negative momentum in the public eye and then especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► the press but I hear it from regular people too so it's it's certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► getting out there and you know I have to think like they're probably like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► are going to be crapping on Apple publicly and expressing doom and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► pessimism about the company and its products and its future I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► that would be like a year or two long cycle and i was thinkin also you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► that this is not investment advice of a qualified but one of the reasons why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► sold all my Apple shares back whenever it was january february [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► like four sixty-something and one of the reasons why oh is it was like soon after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► the holiday earnings call and the stock took a dive on that call and I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► you know how the earnings are great usually it and they worry it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► the highest quarter of the year and so I figure that's probably the best news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► they're going to announce for a long time possibly the whole year at least as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► and so I figure if the stock took a dive and was probably their best news day of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► the year I don't think I wanna holder for the rest of the year and so far has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► proven to be fairly good a fairly good theory it's panned out but you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► this I was thinking like the quarter after holiday earnings is always kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► soft and will be here we we've been hearing all these rumors about how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► was they were having a lower demand expected and they were possibly having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► an oversupply of components and I mean it sounded bad likely to notice the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► rumors were pretty bad and then they release their earnings and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► actually pretty decent and you know it's not like the holiday quarter but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► beat their own guidance as they usually do and anti-wall Street didn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► disappointed by it day this was a different corner where they were saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► we're not going to give you the guidance they were guaranteed to be this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► we're giving you a range and we say we're gonna fall within that range and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► just above the fact they were stuck in that range would be making me think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► about was an analyst like alright rhonda your game gave us you still give us an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► estimate that you knew you could be putting our could be the disease had you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► know better things that I dunno I just did you know it was just kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► watch but the thing about that idea that Apple is like doom and gloom about out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► but I feel like the entire industry in some respects not so much doom and gloom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► that's prob like in a holding pattern because we said we notice Apple these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► things but take a look at the Samsung Galaxy s4 reviews yet I really mediocre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► right and and and so the st. it's the same attitude is basically from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► consumers and from the market who cares about the market what have you done for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► me lately exactly iPhone iPad and even like Samsung the shining star oh no the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► same thing with Samsung what have you done for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► Samsung's Galaxy s3 out of galaxy s4 is the s4 you know so much better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► yesterday and they like I guess it's another samsung galaxy phone and got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► bunch of things in there but they're not all that awesome and like they're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► brawl in a holding pattern because everybody with the next big thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► know that's why every keeps talking a stupid i watch something to be talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► about and i dont the entire tech industries in that holding power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► turn to say what's going to be the next big thing even if the next breakout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► thing is oh my god iPad sales are doing a hockey stick and they're going out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► control and so many people are excited about Apple again in the news again that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► could be it too bad but everybody is like there's no company that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► Apple's just kind of like boring and not really grown like he used to but Sam's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► got excited now simpson's got another phone and so you know I have another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► phone and Samsung have nothing do you think you know Samsung gonna come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► with its you know Galaxy watches that going to be the exciting things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► everybody is just kind of like all right and that was ridiculously punished for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► you know burning so brightly before and now it's like re will you be punished by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► the market and you have to go into the corner and stay there right but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► sweeping past them to be the new darling of the industry that everyone is pinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► their hopes and dreams honor stock prices going up you know 500 X and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► the course of two years you know there there is no equivalent to everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► just kind of sitting there you know cross arms saying hi what have you done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► for me lately and it could be true that this entire year goes by and no one does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► anything for those customers with their hands folded but I have listened to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► audio then call you a better at some transcripts and I think Tim Cook was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► making some pants in that direction of like we might have some entering new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► categories and we're not gonna give you any time lines will he did give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► timeline he basically said I mean it in a different comment hehe but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► basically said was we're gonna be releasing new stuff this fall and next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► year so the implication was don't expect much between now and this fall at all he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3534">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► would say is we will have new stuff in the Holocaust stuff in the fall I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► like obviously if he's not going to be any more specific than new stop to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► like oh well but he was firm enough on that though that I think what that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► is all those rumors about there being an iPhone 5s in the spring that's all crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► you know that's that's probably not going to happen I i think is comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► made it very clear and I think I think Gruber said to is kind of like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► setting expectations for what's going to be announced between now and WBC like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► don't expect a whole lot and was interesting also is that the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► for the BBC confirmed with a quote from Phil that that at WTC we will have new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► versions of iOS and Mac OS and developers hands so that's that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► cannot write and said that so we're gonna see ten anyone doubt that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► we've heard rumors that end I was being delayed delayed but you're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► you know some version of it if its GNE want to be like I when I was 5 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► released today in the thing didn't work that well I wanna put on my phone yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► know i will never let me forget that I think I also put I was 5 my phone it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► 9:59 is GM's at WBC and you don't get a ticket John and I don't get a ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► doesn't mean we don't hang out we don't get on Google hang out together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► be too busy tonight to watch the video I don't know what that that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► problem like if that happened like all the Realtek sites with it was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► people who write every day for us their job would have 10 9 reviews up in like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► day or two and I would not be like months and months and it wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► like for me taking you know three months to write something it isn't three months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► better than someone who wrote there in two days is just not so that's all fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► if I take my three months before the real-estate and other views arrived on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► that you don't care how long it took me right but I don't think I'm gonna wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► for the amount of time you saw you wonder how long I'll be able to spend on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► my review of your review should I write a review of your review of his you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► I think that might have been my highest traffic post 2012 hotels and yeah I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► obviously and now you have like to have your number to have all the all the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► people linked to your the second I am really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► mind you that's hilarious number one it for a while sorry that wasn't our know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► you but nurses in the title to my name is not know your name is on the title so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► rest assured the people not having trouble finding their view yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► right so anything else about earnings are worth is where things to like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► know people who are expecting things earlier than that like new laptops or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► look at the look at Intel's roadmap for what they would put into laptops or Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► Pros or IMAX and looks like everything basically waiting on as well right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► but as far as I know how likely coming out until third quarter right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► the the Apple Intel magic of them getting stuff like not even ahead so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► much just like the fact the first day of the quarter they can happen and well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► ahead of schedule is exactly what he said would be we've given a preferential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► treatment and they're able to arrange it so they can have their stuff out exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► as the stuff arrives anybody on there still is not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3776">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► yeah right now we're still the the current the EF five series and the e3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► series is Sandy Bridge EP but then they there's an e3 v2 line which I guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► looking to service I totally missed this it's basically the Ivy Bridge EP version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► but it's just single processor there's no there's no dual processor versions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► the snowy 5-4 as I can tell that yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► well honestly like my favorite CPU right now for servers that the best bang for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► buck like that I can get on a server right now is the e3 1270 totally it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► important I'm totally on board with a single processor Nunzia on Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► replacing machine because if you can have it if you can get a clock higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► than you can get earlier than his yawn as other possible advantages you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► terms of packaging and power consumption i turn my nose up at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► I would prefer Xeon and all the other you know he's here and all that crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► crap that we should not pay for but we do but like you know better I'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► yeah I mean even like my current Mac Pro might might you know put new program 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► 2010 generation it's a single socket because the single socket CPU it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► the sex acts 3.33 gigahertz one and that for almost every type of workflow is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► faster than the ones who do not like the old days where you had a single CPU that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► meant you had a single thread of execution that's right they all die con [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► tu Corazon them and it's like well you just have one CPU or RAM slots at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► point and and so like you know if if they made an epiphany generation a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► Pro only has one socket in in any configuration that she wouldn't be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► bad because the single socket Xeons now are so good that although it did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► make a heck of a lot of profit of the bigger ones though but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► we'll see I i certainly think that my next Mac Pro after this assuming it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► still uses eons is probably still gonna be a single socket one and I bet it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► be true for a whole lot of buyers would spring for the double it wasn't like add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► another CPU for $2000 like it's not ridiculous like it would be about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► would be at like at least 1,500 and it would be lower clock and look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► prices because that's all that's all Intel really look at the prices now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► have to I had to think about it hard because like it's not as not as if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► not as if this is a value if I can calculate all I really I don't need this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► you know I don't like its binding machine once every five years damnit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► wanted to be the big beefy one that I'll just have to decide do I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► really is the big if you want because you know like I said it probably would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► be lower clock to get up there are too many variables plane as we just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► something called the Mac Pro whatever it is something that's not an iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► something that's not a laptop on a Mac Mini and that's really really didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► didn't cook say last year that sometime during 2013 they would have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► that will make the customer side of what he said was later next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► year so the later applies to but that certainly does correspond well to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► beyond that I mean if he just said in in so many words that there's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► it sounds like he's run out of time and he shouldn't say he Apple's running out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► of time I don't think anyone does like seven people waiting for the answer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► that question of you are very very 12 but when he was actually referring to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► like you know whatever I get calls like possibly entering a new product category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► whatever that means it means something more exciting than a new iPhone iPad Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► that's that's but yes and you know anyone that produces enough excitement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► to cause any sort of market bond that's like alright well that's what we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► aspect that's when you're right time that is what we're waiting for but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► gonna sit here with their arms folded until we get the best thing and so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► one thing that was also really interesting from the call was a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► of iPads sold and and this was this was crazy basically they sold like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► nineteen-point something million iPads and that was more than they sold in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► holiday quarter that makes sense because if you look at all looking at a Cinco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► para state used graphs VVIP if you look at all whenever he overlays them so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► can just see it like let's just put each products beginning of each product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► introduction and pin them to the you know the zero on the x-axis and you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► at the slopes of the very scared like here's how the iPad took off and here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► how the Mac the coffin here's how the iPhone took off the iPad always had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► steepest slope like boiling over small the absolute values are pretty high but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► it's like boy the iPad is taking off much deeper than the iPhone the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► to go much deeper than the iPod and Mac is just no way back it's a gradual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► ramp-up nothing so yeah it's not it's not a surprise that the iPad continues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► to rack up like that and that's kind of like the wild card which if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► be optimistic but Apple is where is the ceiling on iPad sales because it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► capable of replacing a PC for so many people become more capable in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► you know and they'll keep driving the price down and we're just kind of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► getting off the ground like we're a trip like the the iPhone 3G s stage of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► iPad right now you know I mean like we got to the one and only got them on its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► faster and cooler but its fatter and now we got the mini but we're now waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► for the big 12 shrink like we are not even once the iPad it's like the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► four stage and an iPhone 5 and behind I think there is tremendous potential for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► these things as not as PC replacement basically not you have this instead of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► PC but for people who never had a PC before this will get them in the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► for people who do have a PC they're going to buy this is a companion stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► using their PC as much and we're nowhere close to the CIA vs the phone market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► where it's like the competitors are locked in a deadly battle and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSfTfZU/4144">TS</a>]
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