00:00:21 ◼ ► My name is Mike Hurley, and I have the pleasure of being joined in the same country, on the
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00:01:02 ◼ ► It comes from Will, who wants to know, often when a new Apple event comes around, I end up
00:01:07 ◼ ► watching some old events to both get in the mood and watch some iconic announcements like
00:01:22 ◼ ► So like when I did 20 Max for 2020, I watched a bunch of old events or at least parts of them.
00:01:37 ◼ ► Do you ever think about your memory that you get like the little memory thing and you like
00:01:45 ◼ ► That's sometimes, sometimes I am thinking about my, the funny thing is that, of course, I don't
00:01:52 ◼ ► And so I don't remember any of the stagecraft or anything other than very, you know, little
00:02:02 ◼ ► But mostly I'm thinking about the stuff that happened thereafter, which is covering all those
00:02:08 ◼ ► You know, funny, it's funny, the, the things you remember as an attendee end up being very
00:02:17 ◼ ► Like, so Stephen Hackett will do this where he'll be like, oh, and there's this thing when
00:02:21 ◼ ► they announced this thing and I'll, my response will be, oh, I had a good seat for that one
00:02:26 ◼ ► or I had a bad seat for that one, or this person was with me, or that was in this particular
00:02:34 ◼ ► And it's, it's so much of it is about attending the event and not the content of the event as
00:02:41 ◼ ► So, so, which, which is true then that if I, if I need to go back, I'm going to go back
00:03:03 ◼ ► Um, no, because also it's like whenever there is a time to reminisce, people are posting
00:03:11 ◼ ► Like if there's like an anniversary, like it's very kind of in your face these days, uh,
00:03:16 ◼ ► probably because of Stephen's calendar, like series is why everybody knows all the dates
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00:06:21 ◼ ► But what usually happens is we know a bunch of things, we say a bunch of things, right?
00:06:31 ◼ ► And then we end up, like, finding out a bunch of stuff over the intervening days, right?
00:06:51 ◼ ► iOS 26 will let you match your MagSafe case color to your app icon tint on your home screen.
00:07:04 ◼ ► You put a case on and, like, the little animation ring comes up and it's the color of your case.
00:07:27 ◼ ► It goes all the way, like, top to, from the bottom of the phone to underneath of the camera bar.
00:07:43 ◼ ► He got the MagSafe thing and he put the battery on horizontally on his own current phone and it will work.
00:07:56 ◼ ► I guess this is a thing of they're just making the product that needs to be made here, right?
00:08:02 ◼ ► Which is, and the best thing to do is to make it go full length on that phone because you can get the most battery in, right?
00:08:07 ◼ ► Yeah, it's unfortunate that they're, uh, that they didn't think about being, being compatible with other things.
00:08:13 ◼ ► But that wasn't, obviously, the goal of this product was not to be compatible with other things.
00:08:17 ◼ ► The goal of this product was to make a battery for their, their iPhone that has less battery so that you could have a battery pack on it if you needed it.
00:08:37 ◼ ► And it was, uh, an excellent video and made me laugh a lot that, that it's like the cruciform, uh, so just do that.
00:08:58 ◼ ► It's 13 to 15% faster on multi-core CPU and the 6-core GPU is 40% faster than the 6-core GPU of the A18 Pro.
00:09:22 ◼ ► Um, Apple's been doing a lot of incremental updates to, uh, you know, every, every step that they make
00:09:30 ◼ ► forward in the A series and the M series, you get a, uh, you've been getting, I don't know,
00:09:47 ◼ ► Um, and then they, they tweak how many cores there are and what kind of cores there are.
00:09:55 ◼ ► So, um, it, it, you know, I think that that is in line with what we would probably expect that, um, they have, you know, they keep, they keep progressing.
00:10:08 ◼ ► And if they say they're just a little bit, you know, they're a little bit faster, that's generally what they are.
00:10:20 ◼ ► So, they'll see much more of a leap, but that's because they keep rolling forward, you know, 15% every year.
00:10:37 ◼ ► We'll see how many cores that, that's always the question is like how many, but like, these are probably the same cores as the M5.
00:10:46 ◼ ► And so, you would see the same kind of performance, um, from, you know, per CPU, but they, they vary it.
00:11:11 ◼ ► So, it works with older watches and any other way that you get sleep tracking data into health.
00:11:16 ◼ ► So, if your sleep tracking is just based on when you put your phone down, or if you use another device, um, it all goes into the sleep section of the health app.
00:11:31 ◼ ► Um, the sleep score will be calculated no matter how that information is pulled into health.
00:11:40 ◼ ► So, I feel like in the intervening week, the series 11 has just seemed like a less and less attractive watch.
00:11:48 ◼ ► Like, it doesn't, it just feels like, you know, I guess unless you really care about 5G, um, I don't know how much there is for you in that product, to be, to be honest.
00:12:07 ◼ ► Like, and that's just, I, you know, there are little tweaks here and there, but like the fact that the, the sleep score goes back to like the series 6 or something.
00:12:16 ◼ ► And then, you know, series, uh, 8, what, 9 and 10 and ultra 2 all get the hypertension detection.
00:12:33 ◼ ► And it's good because it's like, there doesn't really seem to be anything specific to hardware.
00:12:44 ◼ ► Um, Greg Joswiak threw an iPhone air across the room to Lance Ulanoff from TechRadar who dropped it onto a table and then succeeded in a bend test.
00:13:14 ◼ ► Who felt the confidence to throw the phone and then to have it be bent, like to attempt, you know, they'd like try and bend it, try and bend it.
00:13:35 ◼ ► It is just made extra fun by the fact that Lance Ulanoff absolutely fails to catch this phone and is so horrifically embarrassed by it.
00:14:02 ◼ ► And, you know, it succeeded in creating essentially a viral moment, which is, hey, you two middle-aged tech reviewers try to bend this thing.
00:14:49 ◼ ► So since they dropped, the weight dropped down with titanium, it's been creeping up year over year for other reasons, I'm sure, right?
00:15:10 ◼ ► It's a shame that it has gotten heavier because that 15 Pro was one of my favorite iPhones because it just was such a weight reduction.
00:15:34 ◼ ► I mean, I think there's a prevailing theory that the iPhone Air has allowed the iPhone Pro to get bigger because it's like if you want a smaller phone, get the get the light phone.
00:15:47 ◼ ► But, you know, it's also if you want those Pro features, you have to deal with that weight.
00:16:12 ◼ ► Like it genuinely feels like at this point, I know you I think you mentioned it on the last episode.
00:16:16 ◼ ► They just don't seem to really seem to really have an end plan for what they're doing about this satellite service stuff because it just everyone just keeps getting free service and they keep expanding it and extending it for people as it's as it's coming up for renewal.
00:16:40 ◼ ► But the you know, they don't fundamentally they don't want they don't want people to die because they didn't have satellite SOS.
00:16:54 ◼ ► So they get but they are they're basically noncommittal on whether this is a service or not.
00:17:04 ◼ ► I think getting the texting and and the find my location kind of optional non emergency features in line here is setting up for a you know, a scenario where you do have to pay something.
00:17:20 ◼ ► Although given that some of these features as we discovered with the the ultra three require cell service right beyond SOS and there's we had a lot of feedback that said the same thing, which I think is the perfectly logical thing, which is you have to have cell service because sending a text via satellite is a fallback from sending it from your cell device.
00:17:41 ◼ ► And if you if you could do it for free on the ultra three, you couldn't you could just text all the time using plus as it ties to your phone number and stuff like that.
00:17:51 ◼ ► There are lots of reasons why, but they don't it's supposed to be a fallback emergency.
00:17:54 ◼ ► However, that leads to the question of like, in the end, is this a feature that you'll pay for through your satellite or your cell provider, you know, your cell provider will offer you this as part of it.
00:18:05 ◼ ► And it's like, who's going to pay for it? Is Apple going to pay for it? Is your provider going to pay for it?
00:18:10 ◼ ► Are you going to pay for it? Because those, you know, those Global Star satellites aren't aren't cheap, but also by limiting how often they're used, you limit the number of Global Star satellites you have to keep putting up there.
00:18:23 ◼ ► So, you know, they but I was surprised. I thought this year they had an opportunity to finally not kick the can down the road in regarding texting and they they kick the can down the road.
00:19:05 ◼ ► Apple had said, I think even in the keynote, that they were working with exclusively with China Unicom.
00:19:11 ◼ ► But now their websites say and I think Apple has said that they will also be working with the two other state owned networks, China Mobile and China Telecom.
00:19:19 ◼ ► I don't know what's going on here, but it seems like Apple giving preference maybe to one of the three networks wasn't deemed to be acceptable.
00:19:39 ◼ ► I don't know how we could get to the point where the phone's about to go on launch and then they're like, oh, no, wait, actually, don't worry about it.
00:19:54 ◼ ► And then like one of the carriers made it happen and the others are like, we're not making it happen.
00:20:36 ◼ ► I'm very excited for my flight home because I will have AirPods Pro 3 when I fly home to London.
00:20:43 ◼ ► And I'm excited because I have, I brought them in my AirPods Max, which are, they are dying now, Jason.
00:21:02 ◼ ► It felt like it was related to the microphone, but like, I don't know why it would do that.
00:21:06 ◼ ► But the AirPods Max, the noise cancelling, obviously are so much better than the AirPods Pro still because they cover your ears.
00:21:20 ◼ ► I wore Max and on the short flight, I wore my Pros and I had to put the Pros up way louder and I could still hear more of the engine noise.
00:21:29 ◼ ► I'm really excited to see how does the Pro 3 compare to the Max for me, because I would honestly like to never use these headphones ever again.
00:21:44 ◼ ► But what I would like to be able to do is just pack a regular pair of headphones in my check-in luggage.
00:21:52 ◼ ► And my hope is that we're getting there, but I'm excited about these people are like, like MKBHD was like, I wasn't even going to review these.
00:22:02 ◼ ► And I felt like that was a, just that on its own was a big like thumbs up where it's like, I've got so many phones to review right now, but these things are so good.
00:22:31 ◼ ► The most winning series overall this year and the most winning freshman comedy in history.
00:22:43 ◼ ► Like it's not only is it good, it's about Hollywood, which is just like, that really helps.
00:23:01 ◼ ► I think that went to the pit, which we still love to have an easy way to watch that show.
00:23:08 ◼ ► But Britt Lauer and Tramiel Tillman both won for supporting actors for Severance, which is great.
00:23:26 ◼ ► And those are the two that I said it's like either one of those guys would be the right choice there.
00:23:30 ◼ ► And Noah Wiley, having been on ER for a billion years and then coming back and then doing this show,
00:23:53 ◼ ► There was a scrubs, a scrubs making company did an ad on the broadcast about honoring the-
00:24:03 ◼ ► And they, and they did, it was like honoring the healthcare workers, but it was also, yeah,
00:24:07 ◼ ► And I will say also, um, regarding the studio, there was a great acceptance speech where,
00:24:37 ◼ ► Um, but there was like, again, it was basically, let's thank the executives because the show is
00:24:49 ◼ ► It's the episode because, because it's the, at the golden globes, it's the, it's the studio
00:25:11 ◼ ► It seemed like, like he, his, his comedy, while it's absolutely not Hollywood style, right?
00:25:16 ◼ ► It's very slow and like, like folksy and funny is like, you know, but it seemed like it did
00:25:22 ◼ ► He had that like whole thing of, uh, the length of the speeches was taking money away from a
00:25:34 ◼ ► And like, inevitably they ended up in the negative and he, and then they, he announced that there
00:25:47 ◼ ► I think, cause it gave us some good reaction faces that people were like, oh no, like very
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00:27:21 ◼ ► Barring any disaster, all of the operating systems will go out today and you've been writing reviews.
00:27:28 ◼ ► I want to kind of dig into some of the reviews that you've written and we can also talk a little bit more about the operating systems in general.
00:27:34 ◼ ► But let's start with the one that I think is the closest to your heart and I expect you spent the most time on, which is a Mac OS 26 review.
00:27:47 ◼ ► I got, when reading your review, I felt a lot of conflict, I think, from you about how you're feeling about what you, how if you're putting your head, your mind into Apple's mind, how they are thinking about and approaching Mac OS 26 Tahoe.
00:28:02 ◼ ► Well, I think at its core, the challenge here is that Mac OS 26 in a lot of ways has got the most kind of productivity features that they've done in a Mac OS release in a long time.
00:28:19 ◼ ► And there are some really great features in there, but it's also the liquid glass update.
00:28:24 ◼ ► And so they, you know, and, and you have to deal with this design that is different and that they changed a bunch of stuff.
00:28:36 ◼ ► There are stuff like, there's just a bunch of different stuff from a design standpoint that's imported from their other platforms with this liquid glass design.
00:28:45 ◼ ► And so it's, I've heard from a lot of people over the summer, they're like, oh, I'm just not going to update if it changes the design.
00:28:51 ◼ ► And I understand that on one level, on another level though, it's like, but there's a reason, like every year people say to me, oh, I don't really have a reason to update.
00:29:05 ◼ ► This is really, they did a lot of features that are very nice that I wish they had been doing for a while.
00:29:13 ◼ ► And so what, what, what I have to say practically just purely from a, you know, tool using perspective is I don't think the design changes change the usability of the operating system.
00:29:30 ◼ ► There are a few apps where the behavior is a little different and it's a little weird, but it's usable.
00:29:41 ◼ ► It's not, um, I, I think that a, uh, a very technical user base on social media, especially full of developers who are struggling with the bugs introduced and the, and like, it's hard to write apps for this, for liquid glass.
00:29:57 ◼ ► It's very clear from everybody we know who's a developer that not that, that like what they showed in the videos isn't what they're shipping, what they're shipping is inconsistent.
00:30:07 ◼ ► Some of the tools to build what they're shipping to make it look like what Apple's apps look like.
00:30:14 ◼ ► So you have to do workarounds like it's, it's hard, but like that, that technical perspective doesn't necessarily reflect to users.
00:30:26 ◼ ► So we should all, you know, feel for our friends who are software developers because they've had a hard summer and it will continue to be hard for them because of this.
00:30:33 ◼ ► But as a user, I think it can be overstated and on the Mac, it can very much be overstated because the Mac is, is much more gently brought into liquid glass.
00:30:41 ◼ ► I think then, um, the iPad or the iPhone, for example, and which led me to this moment of realizing that I have these two feelings.
00:30:56 ◼ ► What's more offensive to me as a Mac user that Apple didn't care enough to import liquid glass fully and properly and come up with a whole way.
00:31:27 ◼ ► Like there's stuff there, but also they didn't, it doesn't feel like they went all the way with it.
00:31:32 ◼ ► So does that, does that bother me or does, do I feel relieved that because they didn't give the Mac enough attention and they didn't prioritize it,
00:31:43 ◼ ► that the Mac kind of gets away, gets off easy, uh, with minor changes that don't really change how the Mac works so that you could update and get the new features.
00:31:54 ◼ ► And you're, it's just, I I've been using it all summer, pretty much on my main Mac for the whole summer.
00:32:09 ◼ ► I think I am simultaneously relieved that they didn't go further with this and kind of mess up the Mac experience, but I'm also unhappy by, you know, with the fact that they didn't prioritize the Mac.
00:32:20 ◼ ► They clearly sort of did a halfway job on the Mac for liquid glass, which, you know, which fair enough, because I think liquid glass is a metaphor.
00:32:29 ◼ ► And I did not write an iOS review, Dan Morin wrote an iOS review, but, um, uh, on, on, on the, it starts at iOS and then like expands a little to fit iPad screens.
00:32:43 ◼ ► So by the time you get to the non slab of glass, non touchscreen platform on the Mac, the metaphor is starting to break apart.
00:32:53 ◼ ► And rather than sort of rethink it, they just sort of like did a little to provide a family resemblance.
00:33:00 ◼ ► And, and I don't, you know, I don't like what it says about where the Mac is in the priority list, but I think it's probably the right decision, right?
00:33:09 ◼ ► It's just like it, the Mac doesn't need to become something like that and it's better off if it doesn't.
00:33:16 ◼ ► And so it didn't, it really just sort of gets this base level of, oh yeah, there's gestures and references to what your iPhone looks like.
00:33:25 ◼ ► Cause you know, a lot of what they're trying to do is make the Mac comfortable for iPhone users because, you know, uh, there's a huge influx of users who are buying Macs because they like the iPhone.
00:33:36 ◼ ► And that's been the case for a decade and they want to make that family resemblance crossover, but like if they did too much, I think it would just make it worse and worse and worse.
00:33:47 ◼ ► I imagine that there was a version of Tahoe that looked much more extreme than the ones that shipped that that's how I imagined this may have gone.
00:34:00 ◼ ► And they maybe if I, at least I can imagine it may have gone this way and they scaled it back.
00:34:08 ◼ ► Now it does go back to what you've been saying from before we saw liquid glass to now what you just said a minute ago, which I absolutely agree with, which was then maybe you shouldn't have done it.
00:34:18 ◼ ► Like you really should have tried to come up with something that was new and different and worked consistently everywhere where our quote unquote consistency across platforms now is there's a little bit of this design aesthetic here and there, depending on the platform that you're using.
00:34:34 ◼ ► With iOS at the top of the pyramid and it goes down to kind of like probably Mac at the bottom, maybe watch above or TV at the bottom, maybe even like there's little bits of liquid glass and everything.
00:34:46 ◼ ► But from what you've written about what I've seen, I've not used Tahoe yet, but what I've seen is it really is just a there is a family resemblance.
00:34:55 ◼ ► It's like, oh, this is like the half brother and kind of looks like one of the parents, but like not completely.
00:35:02 ◼ ► I would like to believe that there was a lot of thought put into liquid glass on the Mac and that they decided that they didn't want to push it too far because the metaphor broke down.
00:35:12 ◼ ► My gut feeling is that they bit off more than they could chew with iOS and the Mac was sort of low priority, get it the minimum required to say that it's liquid glass.
00:35:30 ◼ ► You know, I hope I hope it's that they actually put a lot of effort in and decided this was the right approach.
00:35:43 ◼ ► And and again, I think that I think for Mac users, you actually kind of get off easy is what I'm saying.
00:35:49 ◼ ► Like it is there are certain apps that cross platform apps, especially where you see it a lot, you know, in photos and music in, you know, the journal app and stuff like that.
00:36:03 ◼ ► But the fact is, a lot of Mac for Mac only software doesn't have a lot of the same conventions that those apps do.
00:36:13 ◼ ► And and, you know, this is I did a rant in my public beta version about toolbars, but it was like a good example of like Mac toolbars being kind of different from from iOS toolbars.
00:36:25 ◼ ► And that the way that that liquid glass gets put out like on a Mac and the Finder, they shipped it the way that they had it all summer, which is like there are these toolbars that it just looks like a kind of a in light mode.
00:36:38 ◼ ► It's like a gray blob with a drop shadow on top of another kind of whitish gray blob behind it.
00:36:47 ◼ ► It actually looks a lot better in dark mode because in dark mode they have kind of the the glass elements to it in light mode.
00:37:03 ◼ ► I use dark mode everywhere else, but it does for some reason never look right to me on the Mac.
00:37:33 ◼ ► But you seem fine with it and actually a pretty bullish on the menu bar as a new refreshed concept as of 26.
00:37:54 ◼ ► You can't put things up there, even though you can see through it to the rest of it, which is a little bit weird.
00:38:01 ◼ ► There's a checkbox that literally says show the menu bar where it puts a translucent bar back there.
00:38:06 ◼ ► But it's fine without I've been using it without and it doesn't bother me and I'll probably leave it there.
00:38:13 ◼ ► I think that they've handled at least in all the wallpapers I use, everything in the menu bar is readable.
00:38:18 ◼ ► I think and this comes back to something where I think if you are not using Tahoe and you're looking at the discourse online about Tahoe,
00:38:27 ◼ ► you can get scared about Tahoe for reasons that are not necessarily representative because I've been trying to use my Mac just how I use my Mac and I haven't had any readability problems in the menu bar.
00:38:38 ◼ ► And again, there's a checkbox if you want to put a whole stripe up there and not have it be transparent.
00:38:50 ◼ ► But if you're if you're looking at the discourse online, you're seeing all these horrible screenshots about it.
00:39:05 ◼ ► But like if you want to make a wallpaper designed to create illegibility in the menu bar, you can do it.
00:39:15 ◼ ► And so if you find your worst case scenario and take a screenshot and say, I can't believe the legibility of the menu bar in Tahoe.
00:39:29 ◼ ► I'm saying that in my experience using my Mac every day for three months, I have had zero legibility problems with the wallpapers that I use.
00:39:47 ◼ ► And if you do have an issue, just check the box and then you you get the little stripe back.
00:39:53 ◼ ► But the good news is, on the other hand, Apple is like trying to figure out what the Mac menu bar should be going forward.
00:40:00 ◼ ► And I think it's a really encouraging sign that that especially given that their laptops have notches in them that eat up menu bar space through history.
00:40:18 ◼ ► And then there are utilities like Bartender and there are others that let you manage them and create hidden areas or submenus and all that.
00:40:27 ◼ ► And just taking it back a couple of years, Apple introduced Control Center on the Mac, right?
00:40:42 ◼ ► It turns out, though, that where they're going with this is they think Control Center is the future of the menu bar.
00:40:48 ◼ ► Which can sound offensive because it can sound to a longtime Mac user like what you're saying is we're not going to have menu bar stuff anymore.
00:40:57 ◼ ► And also nothing more complicated than a simple toggle, right, that you could imagine, right?
00:41:12 ◼ ► So Apple is headed, and they're not all the way there yet, but they're headed in the direction where I think they're providing a vision for what the menu bar is going to be like.
00:41:21 ◼ ► Using Control Center and introducing the concept for the first time on macOS, I believe, of third-party controls using the controls API.
00:41:30 ◼ ► The idea here is that third-party apps can now write controls that can be placed in Control Center or on the menu bar because anything that's in Control Center can also be on the menu bar.
00:41:41 ◼ ► You choose, so you can have it in a – essentially what they're creating is a framework where you can put things up in the menu bar or in a drop-down menu off of the menu bar.
00:42:04 ◼ ► In Tahoe, you can say, I want a media drop-down with a little note on it, and in there is the now playing and the airplay and the volume and stuff like that.
00:42:32 ◼ ► You can, but I really am a believer in the idea that Apple should provide a bunch of stuff out of the box.
00:42:39 ◼ ► I don't think – I mean, they certainly haven't deprecated the existing menu extras system now.
00:42:51 ◼ ► But in the meantime, what Apple's doing, while that stuff is still perfectly fine, is it's building a new system using the controls API.
00:43:01 ◼ ► But they're actually – and this is a great example of them taking, like, instead of just importing Control Center from iOS and leaving it there, they're like, wait a second.
00:43:08 ◼ ► What if this is the way we build a way for people to put status up in their menu bar if they want in a way that we can provide and that's standard?
00:43:20 ◼ ► I only – you know, there are not very many third-party apps that even support this yet, which is fine.
00:43:25 ◼ ► But, like, in the long run, I think a lot of apps will because I think this is the future of that.
00:43:29 ◼ ► You've absolutely sold me that when I install Tahoe, I'm going to switch from Raycast to Spotlight.
00:44:15 ◼ ► that also the ways in which I could expand it are ways in which I'm already doing things like shortcuts and stuff like that.
00:44:25 ◼ ► Like, it seems like you're – you seem to be very excited about this feature and what they've done.
00:44:31 ◼ ► Yeah, I mean, Spotlight's been around for 20 years, and Apple has slowly progressed it over time.
00:44:52 ◼ ► And there – look, as with anything, there will always be third-party apps that will fulfill edge cases that power users want that Apple is not going to ever fulfill.
00:45:02 ◼ ► That's the beauty of – that's why Sherlocking isn't really a thing because the third-party apps exist sort of to replace Apple features with things that are nerdier or very specific in some ways.
00:45:24 ◼ ► The goal was how long can I last using only Spotlight because it's gotten so much better over the years and that this is a huge update.
00:45:35 ◼ ► How long can I go without LaunchBar, which for a couple of decades has been literally the first thing I install when I have a blank Mac.
00:45:52 ◼ ► I have not used LaunchBar in three months because it does almost everything that I need out of LaunchBar in Spotlight.
00:46:01 ◼ ► And again, it's one of those things where, like, I can use a third-party app if I want to, but I really, really like the functionality that is built into the core OS.
00:46:17 ◼ ► It's got new support for actions, which is this way that shortcuts and app intents get exposed where you can kick off actions.
00:46:27 ◼ ► You can even do – perform at input and then pass it on, and then it runs the shortcut or whatever.
00:46:46 ◼ ► And all I find is, like, I can do IMDb and search for Tom Cruise or whatever, and all it does is take me to the Tom Cruise search on IMDb, which is, like, what it should be doing is populating the – below, it should be populating results.
00:47:10 ◼ ► So that – and I thought it was supposed to, so I feel like there's a work in progress going on there where it could be more capable.
00:47:20 ◼ ► And they added a clipboard manager, which is, like, a few years ago I did that story, which is, like, what's left for Apple to do in terms of macOS features because they've added so many over the years that used to require third-party utilities.
00:47:40 ◼ ► And if I have a complaint about it, it's that to invoke it, you have to do command-space, command-four.
00:47:48 ◼ ► My old launch bar keyboard shortcut was command-backslash, so I just did a thing in Keyboard Maestro where if I hit command-backslash, it goes command-space, command-four.
00:48:01 ◼ ► They should probably let you set to jump straight there instead of having to first open Spotlight and then.
00:48:10 ◼ ► And again, if you're somebody who needs a clipboard history that lasts more than eight hours, get a third-party launcher.
00:48:16 ◼ ► That's what you should do because Apple has made that decision to make it not an endless clipboard history, but to have it be kind of limited time value.
00:48:28 ◼ ► I plan to just leave Raycast installed where it has a longer clipboard history as the fallback, but then just try and use Spotlight.
00:48:41 ◼ ► So what's missing for me, I relied on the emoji search in LaunchBar, and I have not found a good, satisfying replacement.
00:48:51 ◼ ► I'm using, I think, Rocket right now, which is an app that lets you, you know, kind of like insert an emoji.
00:48:57 ◼ ► But it was so great to be able to do command-space and then type the name of an emoji and hit return, and the emoji was inserted.
00:49:21 ◼ ► I think that the one in Spotlight's a little quirkier, and sometimes it doesn't find my answer fast enough.
00:49:57 ◼ ► But, I mean, so Spotlight, part of it too is if you're a power user, and I, you know, have been on LaunchBar for 20 years,
00:50:04 ◼ ► one of the stories I wanted to tell about Spotlight is just that Spotlight has gotten a lot better over 20 years.
00:50:14 ◼ ► And I think there are a lot of people out there who have been using a Mac for 5, 10, 15, 20 years,
00:50:17 ◼ ► and they saw Spotlight when it was lesser, and they replaced it, and they've never gone back to it.
00:50:23 ◼ ► I would just say, maybe it's not for you, but it's so much more capable than it was in the beginning.
00:50:31 ◼ ► You may be surprised, but on a larger scale, just to say, look what they did with Tahoe.
00:50:45 ◼ ► Like, new menu bar system for controls, new Spotlight with action support, and with clipboard manager.
00:51:01 ◼ ► you can now do automations based on time, like on iOS, but also based on things like a file being changed or something being added to a folder.
00:51:15 ◼ ► It also costs $50, and you have to know that it exists and install it and all of those things.
00:51:19 ◼ ► And, like, maybe if it's just for one little thing that you want to do, you don't need to buy a third-party app or two things or three things.
00:51:26 ◼ ► Even if people will choose to use third-party apps, I like the idea that the base system allows you that capability.
00:51:32 ◼ ► Across all of these platforms, they added the use model feature and shortcuts, which allows me to access Apple's AI models in my automations.
00:51:46 ◼ ► There's a lot of good stuff in macOS Tahoe, I guess is what I'm saying, for a platform that seems kind of old and static a lot of the time, even though we rely on it.
00:51:57 ◼ ► I guess what I'm saying is maybe it's the last few years of very minor updates have made me feel this way.
00:52:15 ◼ ► I guess that's what I'm saying is I'm very happy to see that on macOS, they made an effort to do things that are for macOS.
00:52:22 ◼ ► In fact, Mike, my soul left my body for a moment, just for a moment, when I realized a feeling I don't think I've ever had before,
00:52:50 ◼ ► Like, I can't look at clipboard history in Spotlight and not think, please put that on iOS next.
00:53:21 ◼ ► But it's also kind of, I don't think it is remotely weight-wise as much as the functionality that they've added.
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00:53:54 ◼ ► The border of the open space cradles MagSafe accessories and prevents them from sliding off during everyday use.
00:54:00 ◼ ► It reduces bulk and weight, too, because the accessory sits inside of the case instead of on top of it.
00:54:09 ◼ ► So instead of your wallet being stuck to the case and sticking out, it actually is recessed into the case, which is awesome.
00:54:26 ◼ ► OpenCase has its own suite of accessories that will fit perfectly, but it should also work with most third-party MagSafe accessories that will fit.
00:54:36 ◼ ► The open space makes a ledge that you can wedge an accessory, like a wallet, into for an impromptu stand.
00:54:50 ◼ ► I think this year, OpenCase is an even better solution than ever for the phone line that Apple has produced.
00:54:57 ◼ ► So for the Pro phones, you'll get to see the new kind of glass segment perfectly, right?
00:55:06 ◼ ► Perfect for the Air as well, as you'll get the protection from a case, but you'll still feel the thinness because you'll have your hand on the back of the phone itself as you're holding it, which is really nice.
00:55:17 ◼ ► So they're also an open case because it's not a, like, because there is the space at the back.
00:55:25 ◼ ► Overall, though, you're going to get a really well-made and well-considered product that you can rely on, all following an ingenious idea.
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00:56:16 ◼ ► iPadOS 26, I think that the biggest takeaway I got from your review, which is also very similar to my experience,
00:56:23 ◼ ► is they really made it as close to the Mac as they could without actually just putting macOS on this.
00:56:47 ◼ ► You know, I've heard from behind the scenes that they spent several years on this project.
00:56:56 ◼ ► This is not a thing that they threw out half working in beta one and then spent the summer trying to patch to get it to ship.
00:57:04 ◼ ► It was full-featured when they launched the beta and it just worked and has continued to work.
00:57:17 ◼ ► You got the way that it works in terms of managing windows and switching between a full-screen window and individual windows is perfectly reasonable.
00:57:31 ◼ ► And then you flip a switch and control center and then you're in single-window mode and people don't have to worry about it.
00:57:45 ◼ ► Writing these reviews, I had, like, a window with the features of the OS, you know, and then a text editor window and then maybe, like, a messages window.
00:57:57 ◼ ► And, like, it was Mac-like, but I would say not the Mac, also kind of lighter, just felt lighter because it's an iPad, but still kind of allowed me to do that.
00:58:08 ◼ ► And then when I want to go back inside and take it out of the case, I flip that switch and we're back in single-window mode.
00:58:17 ◼ ► I mean, people always ask, like, I think that there's this assumption that everything I'm doing is with a case, with a keyboard and in multi-window mode.
00:58:25 ◼ ► And the fact is the vast majority of the time I spend with my iPad is in single-window mode without a keyboard case on it because that's how I, like, read stuff in the morning in bed.
00:58:51 ◼ ► We've got power users and we've got sort of basic iPad users and we don't want to confuse them.
00:58:55 ◼ ► But we also want to give power because we're selling, you know, an iPad with an M4 in it.
00:59:04 ◼ ► This feels so much like a release where we've been saying, why are you not doing the thing that's clearly the thing you should be doing?
00:59:18 ◼ ► I feel like inside Apple, people are like, but no, we don't want to do the thing that everybody wants us to do.
00:59:25 ◼ ► We want to create a new thing that's different and that's iPad and that is going to be, like, honoring the fundamental premise of the iPad, but also is powerful, but new and not the Mac.
00:59:44 ◼ ► I mean, like, and I'm so glad that they did the thing because they needed to do the thing.
00:59:49 ◼ ► Like, just make it a productivity metaphor that is as close to the Mac as you can get it but still be the iPad for people who want that and then turn it off for everybody else.
01:00:09 ◼ ► I feel like emotionally, they had to get to the point where they realized the best metaphor here is not reinventing something in an iPad.
01:00:30 ◼ ► And at some point, a few years ago, obviously, they decided, let's just build that Mac style multitasking for iPad.
01:00:40 ◼ ► And the realization when they announced this, and as I started to use it, that I had, Mike, was years.
01:00:52 ◼ ► The context, especially as Apple shipped Apple Silicon on Macs, has been every review is the hardware is amazing on the iPad, but the software can't match up.
01:01:08 ◼ ► And, you know, I'm not going to say it's over because narratives have taken a long time to die, but I would say it's over.
01:01:17 ◼ ► I feel like this weight on the iPad of why is your OS holding you back and why the hardware is so great, but why can't it?
01:01:29 ◼ ► I feel like they are taking that weight off that, you know, you still can't install random software.
01:01:38 ◼ ► But, like, with this windowing system and a bunch of other little things that they changed in here, it feels like they're kind of finally saying, okay, all right, yes, it's got an M4, M5 coming up in it, and you can use it as a productivity tool, and we're not going to stand in your way because it isn't iPad-y enough.
01:02:01 ◼ ► Like I said, narratives take a long time to die, but it feels to me like we are about to enter an era where new iPad hardware reviews don't spend an entire section saying, oh, but it can't do all of these things, and it's not a real productivity machine.
01:02:18 ◼ ► Yeah, it does feel like now they have taken it to the kind of logical end state of what the iPad could or should be capable with about pushing it further than that, right?
01:02:43 ◼ ► And it seems so funny, really, because all they did was just make the windows resizable.
01:02:56 ◼ ► They're working just as they were, but now you have a renewed sense of flexibility when using the operating system.
01:03:11 ◼ ► Like, I had, you know, I had said that the iPad Pro is, like, my favorite computer when I'm at home.
01:03:20 ◼ ► But now I am using my iPad again as a work device in a way that I had stopped for a long time.
01:03:29 ◼ ► Like, iPadOS 26 encouraged me to buy a Magic keyboard again, which I had not had one for years because it's just not what I was using the iPad for.
01:03:45 ◼ ► Like, I feel like I am much more able to work the way I want to rather than being pushed to work in a specific way, right?
01:03:54 ◼ ► Where it's like, oh, the apps will go to any size that I want them to, and I have complete control over how that works.
01:04:00 ◼ ► I can have what is essentially as many as I want on the display without it being, like, overwhelming.
01:04:12 ◼ ► And for me, the pro move has been to combine Stage Manager and the new multitasking system because you essentially get small collections of apps that you pair together with each other, and you can move between them really easily.
01:04:25 ◼ ► Like, the green button in the stoplight menu is good to have, but it does not work the way that I would expect it to work.
01:04:47 ◼ ► Like, the ways in which I think this system needs to be changed now are tweaks at most.
01:05:24 ◼ ► Yeah, I would like some GUI ways to get to some of that multitasking stuff a little bit more,
01:05:54 ◼ ► Remember, like, first there was, like, slide over and split view and then kind of windowing
01:06:07 ◼ ► I think what I've discovered this summer more than anything else is that a huge number of people
01:06:24 ◼ ► If you want to do something like that now, you kind of need to just go into multi-window mode
01:06:42 ◼ ► and swipe in to sort of, like, bring it in and do a little thing and then swipe it back out.
01:06:46 ◼ ► I think that's a great observation that there's a use case here that Apple threw out with the bathwater.
01:06:57 ◼ ► And one of the things they threw out is probably a thing they should bring back in some form.
01:07:08 ◼ ► and there's, like, a little thing that lives over there that says, there's a thing over here.
01:07:59 ◼ ► So if you rely on slide over, you may not want to do this update because you will lose it.
01:08:53 ◼ ► I think slide over is a single window iPad feature that lets you have another little app
01:09:30 ◼ ► Like, obviously, they're going to do an update that supports this new background activity feature for exports.
01:09:40 ◼ ► And this is another one of those things was like, on the Mac, the idea that you couldn't leave Final Cut or Logic during an export, because then it wouldn't export, that you have to stay in that app, and you can't go somewhere.
01:10:03 ◼ ► So like Fairright, for example, I did, I had a podcast edit in there, and I exported it.
01:10:12 ◼ ► And there's a little live activity that gets generated that says Fairright is exporting this.
01:10:16 ◼ ► And it's like a little live activity up in the dynamic island or the fake dynamic island.
01:10:23 ◼ ► And then it'll go in the menu bar, and there's a little thing that's like, I'm doing a thing in the background, it tells you.
01:10:36 ◼ ► But on the iPad, it is, sadly, news I need to report, which is that, yes, you can do that.
01:10:42 ◼ ► Yes, there's a system-level thing that will let you record audio and, optionally, video from your calls, like what we're doing here,
01:10:52 ◼ ► where we talked to each other, to make a local recording, which was the problem for podcasters and creators, YouTubers, all of that.
01:11:01 ◼ ► Anybody who needed to record and wanted to just travel with an iPad, the iPad couldn't do it.
01:11:10 ◼ ► All that stuff adds up to being that the iPad is not, you know, as capable as a Mac, but is so much more capable than it used to be for people who want it.
01:11:20 ◼ ► And again, I would say, because whenever we talk about this use case, people are like, but I don't want to use my iPad that way.
01:11:32 ◼ ► Because they got rid of slide over and split view, it's actually harder to accidentally go into this mode.
01:11:44 ◼ ► And so, you know, it lets the iPad be what you want it to be, which I think is beautiful.
01:11:57 ◼ ► I'm happy to have it, although I think iPadOS pushes me to preview more keenly than I would want to.
01:12:26 ◼ ► Like, it constantly feels like I'm fighting against this app in ways that are annoying to me.
01:12:40 ◼ ► I think it's a big deal that you can double-click on documents without fear because you can set the default app that opens documents now.
01:13:05 ◼ ► Like, for me, one of the big limitations of Files was that you couldn't open a document.
01:13:15 ◼ ► You could use it to move documents around, but you couldn't really trust it to open a document like you could with a Finder, where you just double-click on a thing and it opens.
01:13:27 ◼ ► It does not feel as kind of, like, zippy as the Finder is to use, but I think it's just vastly more capable than it was.
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01:15:15 ◼ ► Obviously, there are many and there will be many, many words published about iOS 26 from our friends online.
01:15:43 ◼ ► Just the way the clock looks is fantastic, let alone the fact of how it can move and adapt to the imagery that you have.
01:15:51 ◼ ► I think that the clear and the revised tinting on the icons is a really interesting look that I think a lot of people are going to really dig.
01:16:05 ◼ ► There are some wallpapers that you pair with the clear stuff that just look incredible.
01:16:11 ◼ ► So today, a new version of Widget Smith is out, which I've been working on with David and Stephen.
01:16:18 ◼ ► And one of the things that I've been doing is I was producing some videos and some screenshots and stuff like that.
01:16:23 ◼ ► And if you have like a really vivid wallpaper and you put it behind those clear icons and widgets, it looks amazing.
01:16:31 ◼ ► And I think a lot of people are going to see lots of people posting their home screens and making videos about the clear icons specifically.
01:16:42 ◼ ► It is not a feature I want from my home screen because I'm just too ingrained to like the colors being where they are and knowing what everything looks like.
01:16:53 ◼ ► But yeah, I think they have done a very good job of making something look good, which should in theory be a very hard thing to do.
01:17:17 ◼ ► But one of the things that I will say is the colored tinted with icons and widgets, which used to look real bad, I think look really good now.
01:17:27 ◼ ► And the beauty of it is if you've got different lock screens and different wallpapers, you can, on some, you can choose that and it changes the icon format when you move between them.
01:17:39 ◼ ► And like I moved to a wallpaper of New Zealand and it's got the light blue aqua kind of water that's the powder coming out of the mountains that have been carved by the glaciers and it makes this kind of unreal blue river.
01:17:58 ◼ ► And so you, you go to edit and you choose tinted and there's a picker, a color picker and the color picker floats on top of your wallpaper.
01:18:08 ◼ ► And I was able to pick that aqua color, that, that bluey aqua color of the river that's in that wallpaper and tint my icons.
01:18:19 ◼ ► I mean, there's a screenshot of it in my review, but it's like, it actually looks really good.
01:18:31 ◼ ► And this goes back to the fact that they built a whole new vector based icon style that allows this kind of layering and effects and coloring.
01:18:44 ◼ ► It's been really exciting over the last few days to start getting third party app updates.
01:18:49 ◼ ► So even though iOS is coming out today, I've been getting a lot of updates from developers because Apple started approving the apps and they just, the new versions just start appearing in the app store for iOS 26.
01:19:00 ◼ ► And even with just a few examples, it's been very interesting to see the various ways in which developers are implementing the new iOS 26 and liquid glass design systems into their apps.
01:19:15 ◼ ► And also just, there is a general, you know, I think what gets lost a lot in talking about liquid glass, there's also just a refactoring of where things go and how toolbars operate.
01:19:27 ◼ ► Like a lot of apps are implementing search buttons in the bottom right hand corner, which wasn't a thing that really existed before.
01:19:34 ◼ ► And like, there is definitely some kind of reshuffling of the deck chairs on within the apps that I'm using.
01:19:41 ◼ ► And I've, I've actually been enjoying so far the apps that I've been using because it just feels fresh.
01:19:46 ◼ ► And I'm confident that this is a step in the right direction in enabling and kind of forcing developers to rethink how their apps work because there is a new system going on.
01:20:01 ◼ ► Like, even if they don't go all glassy, you know, like, overcast is an app where, you know, like Marco has spoken about him taking a somewhat restrained approach to liquid glass.
01:20:13 ◼ ► But I really like the tweaks that he has made to overcast based on iOS 26 and his kind of approach there.
01:20:22 ◼ ► I think it just looks fresh, like Fantastical is another one that I've been using and they've not gone overboard, but they've tweaked the design.
01:20:29 ◼ ► And so like, it feels new and it also feels cohesive with the system, even if they're not going as hard as, say, the music app or something from Apple.
01:20:47 ◼ ► And I've been liking that couple of, I just wanted to touch on four Apple system apps, just like a few things that I've been observing and some feelings that I have.
01:21:09 ◼ ► I find them distracting, but it's a feature that I'm happy is there for people that will want to use it, right?
01:21:16 ◼ ► Like, at the moment, it's basically just been a way for various group chats to grief each other.
01:21:56 ◼ ► But it turned out it was a food delivery that got really delayed, like a grocery delivery that I thought just wasn't coming.
01:22:34 ◼ ► It's like you don't even kind of need portrait mode if you've got this because it's doing depth based on a machine learning model and it works really well.
01:22:41 ◼ ► It is, you know, filling in your backgrounds that it can't see because you can't see around the back of somebody in a photo with kind of this AI reconstruction of garbage.
01:23:04 ◼ ► I think, obviously, I didn't mind the old layout either, but I think a lot of people really were bothered by it.
01:23:08 ◼ ► The idea that they were trying to float your library collections up so it wasn't just an infinite list of scrolling.
01:23:19 ◼ ► So now you get the infinite list of scrolling photos by default and there's a toggle for the collections.
01:23:46 ◼ ► That seems really dumb that I have to tap twice to move over to collections and not once.
01:24:03 ◼ ► You know, the purpose of the redesign last time was to remind people that there's this whole other set where you can find Apple's machine learning is trying very hard to find good photos for you.
01:24:12 ◼ ► And that is, I think it is important because I think most, like, you just don't want to go through your thousands and thousands of photos.
01:24:28 ◼ ► And the last system app I wanted to mention was alarms, just because I wanted to kind of say I was wrong.
01:24:33 ◼ ► Like, I thought that the big alarm buttons would be weird and would result in me hitting, like, snooze when I didn't mean to or stop when I didn't mean to.
01:24:42 ◼ ► I haven't had that issue, which makes me think that they did a lot of testing and, like, how visible these buttons are when you're sleepy.
01:24:56 ◼ ► So I think iOS 26, like, the banner feature is the new design, and I am a fan of the new design.
01:25:02 ◼ ► Overall, I think it looks really good and fresh and fun, and it feels like a good starting point for a future of iOS.
01:25:09 ◼ ► And so I'm very keen to see how it unfolds over the next couple of weeks of app updates and then how it unfolds over the next couple of years or even the next couple of months or years from Apple's kind of tweak and thanks.
01:25:50 ◼ ► And, I mean, even critics of it, I think, would say that this is what it—I mean, it looks new and cool, even if it's frustrating how it doesn't work quite right.
01:26:04 ◼ ► It's just making it so it works better and sanding off some of its rough edges is where we're headed.
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01:27:58 ◼ ► And like I said, we wouldn't be sending them to my mom if I thought that they were bad, for sure.
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01:29:19 ◼ ► but I'm worried that I'll miss out on a pro camera system in a year that I will really want it.
01:30:01 ◼ ► You're not going to regret it because you're going to look at your photo library and say,
01:30:43 ◼ ► One of the things that I meant to mention in our What We've Learned section earlier on in the show,
01:31:21 ◼ ► Like, I don't recall that happening before, of like, you can take pictures before review and show them to people.
01:31:31 ◼ ► And so they looked fantastic, and I think this shows Apple's massive confidence with the quality of the 17 Pro camera system.
01:31:44 ◼ ► It's a great example of them listening to feedback, because I wrote this on Six Colors last week,
01:31:50 ◼ ► that trying to get data off of a demo iPhone in the hands-on area would get you a stern look and a note to see Phil Schiller after class.
01:32:32 ◼ ► And what actually transfers to the new phone, and does it depend on which method you use?
01:32:36 ◼ ► I vaguely remember having to go into Overcast to re-download podcast episodes and download Apple Music.
01:32:52 ◼ ► Well, what I'm not going to do is give you a complete list of all the things you asked,
01:33:38 ◼ ► And you could keep your old phone while this is going on and confirm that everything works
01:33:56 ◼ ► But I think more data comes over because there is stuff that's omitted from the iCloud backup.
01:34:34 ◼ ► This is, like, especially important for banking apps because sometimes they just, you need to
01:34:43 ◼ ► The quick start method does lock both of your phones away for a little while, essentially,
01:34:54 ◼ ► Something I will say, if you're using any test flight applications, install the App Store
01:34:57 ◼ ► versions of those before, because those apps just don't transfer over otherwise, which can
01:35:07 ◼ ► But they're all varying levels of good now where they used to be varying levels of bad.
01:35:16 ◼ ► I would say don't be a monster and set it up from fresh because I just don't know how people
01:35:32 ◼ ► According to the compare page, the Air has an A19 Pro of identical specs to the A19, while
01:35:58 ◼ ► Like even though there are fewer cores, like there may be, there's some kind of difference
01:36:06 ◼ ► Because yes, if you look at this on the face of it, they all have six core CPUs and the Air
01:36:26 ◼ ► So the chip count or the core count is not the only defining factor in what makes a chip
01:37:08 ◼ ► And so they bin it and they put it in the air instead, which is a thing they've done on
01:37:15 ◼ ► But there's there's something different about the chip that's in the air versus the chip
01:38:02 ◼ ► Like it's like such a good phone for the base level that the 16e is less attractive now for
01:38:20 ◼ ► I do wonder because I can't imagine they're going to put a promotion display in that yet,
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