00:00:00 ◼ ► my mind defaulters not to accept an invitation to anything social so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/0">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► serves me well to receive pay so you had an interesting week a bit anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/5">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► where's your car that's the interesting part I don't have my beginning tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/13">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► or the next day or maybe maybe this weekend you know it's it's the same the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/18">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► same BS so it's interested so yeah anything else happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/22">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► yeah I guess tumblr sold so you here so I hear ya any thoughts on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/27">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► me know I don't want to rehash my blog post too much but I mean what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/35">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► wanna know I don't know where should I even begin there there's a lot there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/43">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► lot to cover there there's there is practical aspects of who they're selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/47">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► to what what there may be doing what they might have sold why this is good or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/53">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► bad what this means for tumblr what this means for me what this means for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/57">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► what this means for the animated GIF format there's there's so many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/61">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► that they began about how you start extremely selfishly myopic Lee and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/65">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► can blame me for this when you get a lot of flak for it and then will migrate our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► way out to whether this is a good fit but for the two companies that's unfair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/75">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► that works so you've bought how many opps how many cattle how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/80">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► helicopters and I do believe I speak for John and asking when is his Ferrari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/85">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► arriving in one is my Aston arriving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/89">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► well first of all I should also mention the other awesome thing that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/92">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► this past week and that is that my wife and I visited the Syracuse's at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/95">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► house under that tree in part to the jury though I want him off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/99">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► know we visited the house I stood under the tree and I managed to the head I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/105">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► managed to stay conscious and and and dodge although the phone acorns however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/110">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► I did witness the destruction that they have caused on these cars and and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/114">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► agree with John that if he's going to park a car in his driveway it would it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/118">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► would be a shame if it was a really awesome car getting all those dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/124">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► one block away from John I passed a brand new black f10 m5 parked on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/131">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► yeah right exactly and and there are there were lots of nice cars in John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/140">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► vicinity that were parked on the street and so I think maybe street parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/148">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► well you can like that for half the year you can park in the winter cuz they plow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/154">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► they don't allow it or you shouldn't notice to you can't tonight allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/158">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► ok yeah how many are there in the winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/162">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► yeah you know something in my garage but it's a small garage I could wedge car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/167">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► and therefore need to think the same about the scars how to both covered with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/173">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► dance for the most part all those dance for created like early on before I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/176">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► wise to you know what was going on certainly the ones of the Civic were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/183">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► made before I realized what was happening because they just notice it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/186">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► then they accord it's like well tried to minimize it didn't care that much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/189">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► fancy car I would park on the street all time are talking into the garage in both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/194">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► places it would be totally safe for the garage will be tough because you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/198">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► put the car into the garage with kids and they can't get out 'cause i cant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► open the doors because the ground is too small so like I said I would need an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/204">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► entire new house to go with the new car maybe like one of those things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/208">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► apartments in hong kong something ready cargo not an elevator and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/213">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► look at it all day behind a glass wall yeah so the visit was good though I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/217">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► very jealous you and I had briefly colluded and I had thought about perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/225">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► crashing your visit but as it turns out I had a very busy week of going to prom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/230">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► amongst other things and your weekend going to prom amongst other things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/235">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► that's not a joke and it's a story that I'm not gonna bother telling but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/239">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► very disappointed that we couldn't that Aaron and I couldn't join you guys I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► would've been really awesome but there was a good visit the original plan was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/246">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► and I'll be fun new car didn't didn't get here in time so and we were we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/251">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► going to messages for other reasons so so we figured but still visit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/256">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► Syracuse's even though I had my old slow car and the driver crappy BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/260">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► practically terrible first world problems we should probably move so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/265">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► let's talk about how your filthy stinking rich in never have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/275">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► about money except do it's not quite that simple there was a so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/279">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► there's two things on this topic but they were really good here up in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/284">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► this is the link to one of them in the shower put the show notes by Dave Winer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/289">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► from back in the year 2000 back when all the planes are supposed to fall out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/293">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► the sky and that one guy got a really overdo blockbuster bill accidentally so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/297">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► in the year 2000 he is basically an article about you know theoretically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/303">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► thinking about how much money do you need to be set and be fine and be secure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/309">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► and then how happy with the actually make you in practice and even number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/315">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► good points like you know if you if you don't spend your money totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/323">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► irresponsible if you only buy things that you actually use so that rules out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/326">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► things like you know fifteen different cars cars like only buy things you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/330">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► going to use and you know don't be totally crazy about it like how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/335">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► money do you really need before you can just live off the interest and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/340">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► be be fairly secure and his point is that it's probably lower than you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/344">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► once you start realizing like well if you exclude things that you don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/349">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► ever use then then you know it's not that much of the things that you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/353">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► use but the point is the whole point being rich one of one of his point was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/359">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► hilariously true and and and I might need to think about it at some point he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/363">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► said that we get more practical buying things like second houses third cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/371">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► vacation homes big things that I wonder if most people would be comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/377">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► actually maintaining three cars have to be registered three times a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/380">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► your second home needs to be furnished to maintain even when you're not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► you say you can hire people to do these things for you then you to spend to time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/387">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► in your life dealing with employees is this happiness it might not be as happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/391">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► as you think and you go so true it's like I just sold my fun car because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/395">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► didn't like having multiple cars like it was so inconvenient in so many ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/401">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► I I'd rather just get one great car instead of having one decent car and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/406">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► fun car rather have one bigger fun car and just combine the roles and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/411">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► that's that's what he's saying here is like you know if you if you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► limiting yourself to like only things you actually would feel comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► maintaining without being too much of a pain in the butt then then then a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/422">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► don't need as much money as you think to reach that point and be money won't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/429">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► by itself the chatroom got into the same thing I was thinking like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/436">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► break through that barrier so he could hire people to deal with the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/440">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► you hired him in danger of their homes like that's that's the break through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/443">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► barriers being rich rich is like no I don't want to deal with it the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/447">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► house and worrying about it hired dealing with employees you have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► all way through to the point where you can hire people to deal with people did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/454">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► you hire and then you just have to hire like maybe two or three good people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/458">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► you're all set and so having to deal with like incrementally as you buy more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/461">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► things having to hire more people to deal but i think thats like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/465">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► whole other level like the same reason why I like you know there's this ancient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/469">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► John Stauffer article that talks about enterprise software pricing and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/473">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► they're there's there's very little software price between $1,000 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/476">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► $15,000 because once you cross over that threshold of $1,000.00 so you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/480">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► start sending sales people out to businesses and everything in your costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► go up tremendously by having overhead of committing the business and its ok to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/488">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► spend this kind of money is a need to raise your prices like this big price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/492">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► gap I feel like there's a big like you know rich person management alike if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/495">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► where you can't like it would suck to hire like a person to manage your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/501">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► vacation house for you and in my opinion also sucks to maintain a vacation house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► like my in-laws have always had like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► r their regular house in their vacation house and my mom has has she said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► same setup now she's back to one house but maintaining two houses really does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/519">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► suck like my my mom and my endless day they like doing it so that was fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/524">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► you know they that was fine for them maybe it's fine for Merlin but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/529">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► like the idea of maintaining multiple houses like it's the same reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/535">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► didn't want to cause any more like I just I hate all that crap and and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/540">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► right yeah I guess I guess like the super rich will then have have tears of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/545">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► people that are maintaining but that's really expensive and so you have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/550">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► substantially wrecked it even manage that and be even if I got that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/556">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► money I don't think I feel good about spending it like that you know that if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/562">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► were talking you know once once the rumors are flying about the number thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/567">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► on I think it was Friday night when they first came out we start talking like ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/571">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► what if this is really you know what will we do if we if we get a chunk of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/575">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► money from this and we we both know we're talking through really no I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/580">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► think we really gonna buy anything immediately and I don't think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/586">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► gonna make any substantial changes in our life like it and didn't tell her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/590">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► about the pci-express SSD I guess I I told her it installed for you guys this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/594">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► is this is how much I like you guys it's installed in my computer right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/600">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► I'm not using it because the transfer would have taken too long and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/604">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► have run over into the show ya so this move your email and try to copy all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/608">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► data at the same time the email is a separate issue I was actually deleting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/613">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► 80,000 notification emails from PayPal from various Instapaper subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/618">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► things over the years cuz everytime people as anything the email you even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► it's something like that we're like an API will be a lot better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► nope nope somebody has to get an email so people are so so bad please I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/630">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► prayed to the gods of programming out there don't let anybody ever used PayPal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/638">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► again by the way this is a topic we talk about when its launch but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/642">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► this Jolla square cash thing looks really interesting you see this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/648">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► that your iPad goes into to make a point of sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► know that that's something that's the register this is square is apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/655">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► beta testing or by by invitation only testing a service where you can send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/659">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► anybody what appears to be an ACH payment for $0.25 no matter what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/664">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► amount of the payment is to an email address and email address and they log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/669">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► in and they they claim that the deposit in the bank and now you're Philadelphia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/673">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► $0.25 yeah now so and if true that would that would make it substantially cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/677">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► than almost any other easy way to send amounts of money larger than a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/684">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► dollars it's it would be it would be very very nice like three percent or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/689">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► 2.9% plus $0.30 minimum or something like that ever and as a percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/696">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► you send someone ten grand also has ties to be spending right exactly and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/700">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► like you know if if you know your if your space or buy something for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/705">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► $1000 or $500 or something online and you know if if the vendor or if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/709">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► you know somebody's eating three percent off that that actually add up to be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/714">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► money and so an end to the most part there really isn't a good way to do big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/719">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► transfers like that in the us- and I know the rest of the country for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/724">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► rest of the world has like all these electronic payments in in very common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/729">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► usage we really don the USA everything here is backwards and you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/733">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► help somebody a paper check which I don't even know if people in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/737">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► even know what we mean by that you would spell it with a qu at the end and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/743">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► it's like I feel like the rest of the world looks at the way we deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/751">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► money in the USA with transferring money the same really we look at our parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/755">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► of all they ever use of those vacuum tube things they never used ATMs you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/759">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► know like it too so backwards anyway but I forgot I lost track so you did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/763">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► know in advance you were not briefed that's correct and so so i cant actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/770">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► this is not for the show's just for me what happens when you're sitting at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► on a Friday night you see holy cow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► God the company that I have at least a shred of interest and is going to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/781">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► four billion dollars I think how do you react to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/787">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► well I was very very cautious in in my emotional responses because it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/791">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► I I wanted like I didn't hear about it in any kind of official capacity until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/798">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► after the press release out on Monday morning so you know I learned in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/803">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► press the same way everyone else learned and not at all no because think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/809">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► Yahoo's a public company so I guess I knew in advance that could cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/816">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► problems with some kind of trading think of it like i dont wanna I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/820">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► deal with that crap you know that's the last thing I do is get into like weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/824">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► financial regulations and put myself at risk or anything you know like so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/828">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► very glad that I was I was just as informed as the public on this but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/834">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► didn't want to mentally admit to myself that it was happening until I knew for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/842">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► sure that it was happening and I'm still a little bit reserved in my head because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/847">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► like the cell hasn't technically closed yet like I don't have the money yet so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/850">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► like that that takes weeks or months of various paperwork and everything so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/856">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► don't i don't think I even know when it will close I know it's going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/861">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► eventually but you know so I think once once I actually have some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/864">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► tremendous bank deposit you know then I'll feel real until it's still kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/870">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► like now it feels almost real because it's been confirmed but over the weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/874">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► it was really just like I think this might happen because the reports they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/877">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► were from AllThingsD and there were multiple reports and that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► pretty good sign they're pretty well sourced and also you know and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/886">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► little bit about this in the post from everything I know about David and Tumblr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/891">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► the reports sounded extremely plausible it was like OJ Simpson's like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/896">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► didn't book like lisa has heard about that took me a second to realize what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/901">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► was like like if they were gonna sell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/908">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► this is how it go you know so I so I knew like looking at these reports like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/911">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► this looks just looks real and so I I was pretty sure that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/915">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► definitely negotiating this I but just like everyone else you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/922">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► hinged upon the Yahoo board approving it and then I didn't know it was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/926">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► United know what's going on so so I believed hundred-percent that there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/930">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► talks but I did not know whether whether it would result in an actual sale or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/936">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► you know cause I mean when you have a company that size is always talks has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/940">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► talked all the time with people right now you didn't immediately start making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/943">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► a list of where you're going to buy a second garage and what caused you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/948">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► fill it with or not it's a thing like this great day one article I i dont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/952">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► really wanna make any changes like that in my life because you know I i've kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/957">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► of been lucky in in when I've made money in my life that if I can say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/963">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► without sounding too much like an arrogant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► you know I started out from a pretty modest background and so I always I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/972">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► always had a pretty good sense of money I always had to work for my money i we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/982">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► had to save my own money you know I was bought my own stuff with my money so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/986">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► that's why I have like my side of things like reviewing the best like trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/991">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► find the best headphones try to find the best light bulbs like that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/997">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► where that comes from in me it that that's that's the part my personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► comes from is like trying to try to get a goodbye try not to like waste money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► unnecessarily stuff like that so it helped that then in a way with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► Instapaper and for a while having two incomes and wisdom I was doing in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► paper and homework the same time I started getting some extra money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► because it happened gradually and because I had come up from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► background I was never like blowing money wastefully I was never like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► know I don't think I mean least excessively is never late being totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► responsible about it and so now that I have more than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► that I will eventually have more than that I'm kind of glad that I had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► intermediate steps because you see like when people when people win the lottery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► and you use it like working class people who have never had access money in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► lives they win the lottery and parliament has an issue this week they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► win the lottery and then like like like statistically so many of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► actually not very well off like a year to lean more like not very happy if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► have problems you know there's so many ways like I think no matter who matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► whatever and making my life no matter how much money I have or make in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► future I don't want to do things like have had a iPhone and iPhone you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► and by the way I should point I got a really nice email from Dave Morgan he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► did you yeah he's here you know the more I never met the guy but but I've emailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► him a few times I really do think he's a decent person who just got caught with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► terrible interview like you get you know hehe I i dont wanna say what he said i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► think is private but it sound like he was definitely like a victim of of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► sensational editor and writer that like almost everything he said there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► probably taken out of context and and so he's he's not as bad as it sounds but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► anyway so you know there's things like that and I think are are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► unnecessary and wasteful and no matter how much I have or don't have always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► think that and so I already have most of what I want because most of what I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► is affordable and have been able to afford it so I don't really like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► this is why this is not really going to change like I'm really happy that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► bought our house back when I was working at tumblr so just on a it was a good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► it was still a regular salary job so we bought a mid-price house for our area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► and we didn't go crazy we didn't spend like millions of dollars on some giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► and I feel like if I didn't yet own a house and I suddenly came into a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► lump sum of money I might be tempted to spend a big chunk of the house and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► that temptation is gone because we already bought a house we are to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► this house and moved the concept of the idea of moving is so unappealing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► that you know it doesn't really matter that we matter if we come into big sums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1195">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► of money at any point now live from this point forward we have a house we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► for the foreseeable future and so I don't need to I don't need to blow all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► the money on on a big house or something like that you know it's interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► me that dear friend of the show david smith said in the chat and I completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► agree with him independence is the vert virtue I value most some of which money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► can buy but moreover is about how you make choices and I think that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► true and I would I would build onto onto that that everything is relative and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► I think to Miami I make a decent living we're very comfortable and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► myself man it would be pretty cool to be able to go and just buy or lease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► whatever brand new m5 I think that beat it's arguably within reach maybe but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► it's it's still a stretch if not a little bit outside of the edge of my arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► similarly I'm sure there are people that would say man I would love to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► lightly used three series and then there are people that would say man I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► love to have a lightly used accord were or whatever in and I'm not trying to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► that that that we are ranked in any sort of way financially it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► everything is relative and everything is a choice and I think I speak for both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► you guys I feel like I know both you pretty darn well that we make choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► about how we want to spend our money in such a way that we are not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► longing for more of course everyone always wants more money but it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► sort of thing where our lives would be demonstrably different if any one of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► had say double the salary that we have today on John doesn't make sense to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► would you agree with any of my crazy might be different but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► many important way beyond important way is still be cool he would absolutely be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► cool like I think I always feel like I would be excellent rich person I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► never actually be a rich person that that's just like those stories of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► who win the lottery and do foolish things money or like recording artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► Sibylle or the money just like man like you know the money was wasted on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► because they had no idea what they're doing and just you know and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► what it is I don't know how it is any connection at all between the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► end up getting rich and and are smarter than many of the people I think maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► the only thing that I could come up with is that you mostly hear about the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► who get a lot of money and screw it up there is tons and tons of people get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► lot of money and don't screw it up and it's boring so you don't hear stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► about them so you know they just have a nice life and live within their newly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► expanded means perfectly fine and and that's boring and you'll hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► their do you know the person who gets old but I you know that's and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► know if there's anything you do it like that the market is that it's nice to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► money gradually learn to deal with it I don't think if you got it all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► sudden you you would have blunted anyway like I think it's just a personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► type thing where you know I'm no amount of training with gradual because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► you see with the gradual ramp-up of money and I'm sure we've all seen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► is it you know someone graduates college or something and I start their first job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► and they get like a low salary and they get an apartment to keep getting raises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► a nicer apartment and they get married and get a better job of two incomes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► buy a house in like that can just continue to creep creep up where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► every time that people get a little more disposable income like oh wow we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► afford a better house you can afford a better over now we can afford a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► this and they just there never are content to live within their means need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► to chase their income to the point where they're like boy I need to be making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► three hundred grand a year just to maintain my lifestyle and my wife needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► to also make 300 grandkids now our lifestyle requires six hundred grand a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► year just to get by just to pay for all the cars and houses and private schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► and fancy clothes and vacations that we're now accustomed to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► a decrease in my income is now a sacrifice my lifestyle and that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► the the the the travels of gradually rushing things if you're not smart about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► your money is that you just constantly as soon as you get some more disposable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► income you want to upgrade everything in your life so that's likely more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► insidious version of the OS gonna blow it all on you know fast cars and women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► can be broken and I know I definitely know people like that who they're living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► within their means but always just and that is a foolish may have pushed me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► live I mean I can also play with me like I also have I guess some personal traits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► that they keep this in check like one of them is that I hate any kind of debt I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► really I I prefer to not have any debt if I can and fortunately for most of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► life have been able to maintain that that's not entirely sure I had a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► tax shelter for your mortgage interest to keep that one right and but also you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1489">TS</a>]
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00:25:05 ◼ ► champagne to pour onto rap stars or anything I i dont know im still like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► matter how much money I ever have and probably always going to wear jeans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1512">TS</a>]
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00:25:23 ◼ ► ridiculous car that he got a new one every few months we would have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► license plate but he lives in a pretty normal house like it was a nice house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► but it wasn't like some kind of tremendous state you know with horses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► and tennis courts and he was like a regular house in a neighborhood he wore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► regular clothes he wore regular shoes you know he had nice computers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► that's understandable and it's also not that much money relatively speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1545">TS</a>]
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00:25:56 ◼ ► be a really good rich person I think I'd be pretty terrible one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1556">TS</a>]
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00:26:12 ◼ ► have to kick my own but if i dont a country club I don't intend to like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► golf which have actually enjoys got quite a bit but I don't I don't intend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► to do that myself like the idea of even like her like I i don't want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► anything that would cause the rest of my working-class family to think I'm a dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► you know that makes sense like that's the the sensibilities of regular people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1600">TS</a>]
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00:27:01 ◼ ► don't want my family to find out here in the thing that struck me was I i dont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► number what day it was but I noticed either Friday or over the weekend or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► maybe it was Monday night one of you guys are you hurt if posted a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► from the restaurant that the four of us have been to a couple times that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1638">TS</a>]
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00:27:28 ◼ ► windfall be that a thousand bucks 10,000 bucks whatever doesn't matter but some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► amount of windfall I think what area and I would probably do is go to a nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► dinner you a nice city or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► not something absurd not thousand dollar bottles of wine or whatever or champagne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► or whatever what have you got a nice dinner and here it is that you guys have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► ostensibly just earned a significant amount of money granted it's not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1669">TS</a>]
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00:27:58 ◼ ► is you went to the same restaurant that the four of us have gone to I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► every time if not every time we visited you then nearly every time and it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► a bad restaurant by any stretch but it's an average American restaurant casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► family pub you know like not on trees like 10 bucks you know it's not yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► you know I went there because we have a one-year-old like them at fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► restaurants we used to go to this place like once a week ever since we had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► kid we now go to like once every five months because I so don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► that guy whose kids are screaming in the restaurant serving on the floor I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► afraid of being that guy that we hardly ever go out to restaurants anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► that's like that's how I spent that day I didn't shower until right before when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► the restaurant I was in a crappy white t-shirt I swept my patio cuz they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► flowers from a tree all over it like I did I'm a regular person doing regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► things like that my day to day life is not going to change people shower and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► to work in the morning just let it slip that you want to see i've been i've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► showering inappropriately times the day for like a year and a half now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► why don't you just want to ask you about Yahoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1748">TS</a>]
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00:31:00 ◼ ► asking John and I wanna hear Marco you can wrap this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► John what do you think about the idea of Yahoo and Tumblr being one sort of but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► not doesn't make sense to you too that is that is that a good marriage if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► will or does that make no sense it makes sense in a cynical way that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► acquisitions make sense in the Yahoo is clearly like in turn around I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► you'd call it you know the new CEO bold new strategy cut the fat recon straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► on the good things are so it's it's in the mode where it's trying to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► itself around and it used to be the hip cool thing but isn't anymore and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► makes sense that it would be up there shopping for something that is hip and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► cool and something that has a lot of users and Tumblr on the other hand it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► insanely popular tremendous growth but very little but in a way of ways to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► all that popularity and money they did what they sell premium themes and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► sort of promoted post stuff like not the type of you know that they have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► these users and they want to monetize them and they haven't quite figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► how to do it in a way that scales with the size of their business so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► more than happy to take Yahoo's money and I was more than happy to give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► like what is Yahoo need lots of users and cool and I need money because it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► been how to make enough on its own so in that sense the marriage makes sense but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► then when I think about what are we left with is this combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► is gonna help Yahoo as much certainly was gonna help tumbler with money but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► it just like ok well now we have assured that you we can continue to be tumblr to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► be cool but also continue not to make money that's not really a great outcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► in its kind of neutral her tumblr but not great for Yahoo so I wonder how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► tumblers really gonna help Yahoo how they gonna they're gonna figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► something out together to become more than they were individually remains to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► I completely agree and I just don't understand how this Billy benefits Yahoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► released in the near term in any way other than hey look that company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► that website that all the kids these days really like yeah that's arms baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► but they get all the users to them like that now all of those users are their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► users and you know when you have that number one is maybe Marco knows what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► nice and graphs on how many millions of people on tumblr now it's like its big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► number and and so even if those people like well then I like you have access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► them in some way like you have a shot like they're yours their captive and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► if you call for some great new idea for some new property or something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► just want to promote the new Flickr to them or something suddenly you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► that and you know what the PayPal blur to put like one little hey check on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► Flickr thing in the upper right-hand corner that you can just do that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► easily that's a stupid example but like having access to those people psycho it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► is a big to try making if Yahoo tried to say we're going to make a new service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► and it's going to become a popular stomper good luck with that right but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► just getting time but you get those people so you still have a good time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► money from them not to piss them off and all those other things but at least at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► least there there that equals billion dollars I guess yeah and the show David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► Spencer said 300 million monthly unique visitors 220,000 sign ups everyday David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► Smith is basically a real-time follow whenever you see her naturally but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► agree 13 times the show which is not surprising but I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► thank you I don't see how Yahoo can really capitalize on having all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► users without taking off all these users in the sense that if I were developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► tumblr users and my blog that I write on once every seven years these days is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► tumblr but that being said if I were fighting really know the backstory and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► just heard in the news Yahoo now on Tumblr and all of a sudden I start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► seeing links told his Yahoo properties immediately I'm starting from my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► in the air and saying how they sold out and now I feel like I'm just another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► eyeball to show up to their other properties to do in a crappy think think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► of the newly revised Flickr on Flickr was it a much beloved service that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► seemed to stagnate and now they revised it is mostly the revisions also getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► a thumbs-up right thing about this right so wouldn't it be great if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► very easily plus pictures from Flickr to your tumblr does that hurt you as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► tumblr users know now it may be easier for you I suspect maybe you didn't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► Flickr be like oh well since it integrates all of tumblr now may be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► sign up for the Flickr thing and you someday become a Flickr user Flickr does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► have a business model maybe perhaps not a great one yourself standing on but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► does have some way to collect money from you and that's kind of you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► like a sack type things like how well there was free and integrate well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► integrated with tumblr and I'll sign up for it and then you start looking sexy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► pretty cool you start using an like you didn't feel like it was shoved in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► face but merely because they're under the same umbrella they can do deep you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► know really cool integration that wouldn't be possible through just if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► they were just talking to each other in API over the internet as two separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► companies and that's that's one small example but I really I think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► possible I think Apple stuff is integrated with each other it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► possible to do integration in a way that customer see as friendly and beneficial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► and not as shoving each other services in my face and then that makes me wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► is it really worth a billion dollars for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► potential integration and that potential way of making these eyeballs look in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► these other directions and I would guess marcus says yes but super user you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► like you have added up like think carl does it cost of someone share another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► cost of acquiring new customers if you do the math Mike how many new potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► customers that just grab under its umbrella how much should I pay for each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► of them but I think things are worth what people are willing to pay for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► and so that's just how r capitalism works so someone was going to pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► billion that it that it is by definition worth a billion you know and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► certainly I found it refreshing in market promise I'll give you a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► here in a second but I found it refreshing although odd that their press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► release was so self-deprecating as a self-deprecating guy I that made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► happy to see somebody else to talk the way I talk but it was odyssey that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► press release I think the second I tweeted something like the second line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► of the official press release this wasn't the thing that that David posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► on tumblr it was the official Yahoo press release the second the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► sub-headline was promises not screwed up and I thought that was so remarkable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► it was it was also my thought it was awesome anyway and in that was to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► that was a very good sign that that that they know not to screw in a light on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► other side don't you kind of by definition need to screw it up in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► to get any real tangible value out of it and John I think your point a minute ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► so great counterargument that no maybe if you just do a really good and sought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► all job of integrating with your existing properties maybe you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► to screw it up in order to get your money's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► but it's it's a maybe I'm just not imaginative but it's a very big leap for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► me to see how you can really get a billion dollars worth out of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► integrating with liquor and I know that was a silly example but you did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► tumblr tumblr is a little bit of a puzzle because tumblr had a long time on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► during which it cannot figure out how to get its money's worth out of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► tremendous number of users I don't think that Twitter has the same type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► situation you're not going to get money out of them but like they like you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► like you should be getting Facebook's size and money out of a facebook size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► number of users Facebook as well over 200 million never been a bit like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2335">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► got enough surely enough money to keep themselves going and everything happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► just like man just just just so many people like how do we how do we get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► money that we know is there like these people like our product they using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► but probably not willing to pay more than likely just gotta be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► locked up in there and and just didn't feel like company ever figured out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► to get the amount of money that thought it should get out of there maybe Yahoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► doesn't need that kind of money out of these users because it uses themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► just having them happy and using this something that that Yahoo owns is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► worthwhile so they don't need to get more money out of it but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► you can just suddenly turn on the money for Citroen Tumblr and say now we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► believe these people drive because that will that will go running away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► you're never you're never gonna get that kind of money under these people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► did you think you should just because someone else but not gonna pay to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► Tumblr not that many of its Marco and let us havin what do you think well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► should preface this first of all with a tremendous disclaimer that I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► any inside information here really I love Tumblr in 2010 even then I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► gone to the board meetings in years I really wasn't that familiar with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► finances the company or even the girls at that point I was focused entirely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► just my job because service stuff but certainly since 1955 had minimal contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► with them I see the people they're here in there socially but we don't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► business and I'm usually used her that much since then because I what I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► write my own BlogEngine and support that so anyway I should preface this by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► saying that this is not based on any kind of inside information about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► company and I'm still a bit nervous to even comment on this but I'll do my best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► to give you some kind of content without getting myself into any kind of trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► I think in in very general terms I think that Yahoo has a lot of money but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► don't have a lot of relevance and tumblr has a lot of relevance and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► have a lot of money and so i i think it if you look at the dollar value for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► while because I don't think the dollar value matters that much for looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► why these companies benefit from each other I think tumblr first of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► discussions on whether Yahoo's gonna screw it up I think you to consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► first of all that the alternative is not tumblr adjusting as it exists now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► alternative would be tumblr securing it up or Tumblr not screwing it up and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► you can look at some of my Twitter where twitter twitter had a similar growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► patterns tumblr about a year and a half before it and rather than get acquired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2514">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► and some kind of massive mega-deal like this twitter has has led to just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► going independently and and you know try to make a profit reliably and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► you know maybe eventually have an IPO who knows but you can look at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► winners had to do to pull that off and it's really angered a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► included so you have to consider also you know what of tumblr didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► acquired right now what would the next few years of tumblr look like and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► company was growing so quickly and as a result of course I'm sure again this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► not based on inside information I i assume their costs were growing a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► too and the problem is right now Facebook's IPO was a huge disappointment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► before that Zynga's IPO was a huge disappointment and a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2572">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► big consumer web tech companies having IPOs have not done very well recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► and so when your company gets really really big to the point where almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► nobody can afford to buy you any more like Twitter is a great example when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► think about what they have to do you know if if they have to keep raising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► money from investors those investors going to start thinking about what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► exit plan here you know how we ever gonna get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► get a good return on this money you know if we're gonna be dropping you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► hundreds of millions of dollars into your company if the IPO market isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► very good you know if if our out if are possible outcome is what happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► Facebook with their crappy botched IPO than you know that's not very good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► the investor so I think it's probably hard to raise money when you're that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► of a company I kind of reasonable terms and that's why I think we see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► Twitter's been doing this past year to is trying to make a lot of money as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► quickly as they possibly can so again this is not based on inside information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► the speculation but I think it's probably worth considering whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► tumblr would have reached that point and if so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► and now that Yahoo has bought it if they were gonna be anywhere near that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► they probably wouldn't be any more or at least the pressure will be significantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► reduced in the times gonna be more flexible not to say that Yahoo has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► bottomless pockets but you know Yahoo can afford for this unit of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► business to lose money for a few quarters are for a few years before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► starts making money or as an independent company can't really do that very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► you can but then I mess up your finances and so this is not a great time to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► company like Twitter where the hope of an IPO making a big is pretty low and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► you're so big nobody can by you and you can only raise money on good terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► anymore so that's why Twitter kinda had to do what it did to be bought and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► didn't want to be but most people could afford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► you know most most people who were likely to want to buy Twitter whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► really hard time justifying a kind of purchase and Twitter doesn't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► like you said that was a decision so that's different than not being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► like me on facebook the same thing face because the classic example where we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► who's speaking of wanted to buy facebook four tons of money at various points and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► taste said no and that was you know that was his call and it seemed at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► but now Facebook is much bigger than they were then and you know worked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► Twitter seem to follow the same playbook people wanted to buy them they said no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► we want to go to longer going to be the next Facebook and now we're waiting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► see if that's the case so yes i know im so I think you can make a pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► case for why tumblr benefits from Yahoo because there's this whole set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► massive financial pressures that not to say that that all pressure off them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► now they have a lot more flexibility in that presumably and plus a look at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► you what tumblr has tumblr has like you know all these users and all his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► relevance on these cool people in all this hip content being created all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► engagement and they don't really have much of an ad sales force yet as Yahoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► has a massive ad sales force and they're desperate for use of engagement so again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► I think it makes a lot of sense why do companies go together and you look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► from Yahoo's point of view and as an outsider a look at Yahoo and think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► here's a company that nobody pays attention to any more and I think on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► their news call this said that their average demographic is is getting older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► and that's not good form for money so like you see this company kinda losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► relevance and and just like if Yahoo News Service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► even talked about it nobody blogs about it and none of the geeks like us even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► try it and so they they have to make drastic moves to get more relevance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► they also need the social network they did you know that Google has Google+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► which might or might not be actually used but they at least have it they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► database table somewhere with a lot of ideas and that's why they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► themselves users Facebook has itself having social really Xbox Live ok that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► something that's sort of sort of a few pieces here and there but Xbox Live is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► not a piece that's full-fledged social but yeah a little bit I don't know why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► think it's a little bit different but OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► that they have some good pieces I think Yahoo need something like that and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► now the habit so you can look at all these things there's a lot of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► why these companies benefit from each other without even considering the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► aspect of how much they bought it for so much about it for I have no idea what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► based on you have no idea that's based on it doesn't really matter honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► like it matters to the shareholders but it doesn't really matter to the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► you know how much you paid for it would be fun to see the slides though because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► you know there is a slight it says we protect the value of our people over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► this amount of times this amount of money so we feel that by his company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► you're buying the future you know like you know this BS graphic explaining why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► 1.1 doing this the number is not one billion but you know all those are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► in all those grass like the along the x-axis the thing at the left edges like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► the current and everything else is the future so just like projections of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► fantastical future they may or may not come to pass will also keep in mind too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► like there's a lot of value here not just you know there's value to Yahoo in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► buying this particular social network site publishing thing because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► didn't have a social network and there aren't that many that are meaningfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► size that they can afford that's one big problem they have why they are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► really going to Tumblr one reason why I told him I might need to guide you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► particular to be the buyer gonna sell is the Yahoo is in this place of humility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► and change and progress and I know David pretty well and David David is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► somebody who wants to be told what to do with this product constantly you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► he's gonna want his own say and from all the reports that sounds like you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► Marissa Meyer see eye-to-eye lot and he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► you know he's locked into work for them for a little while and and and she's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► know she was apparently promising some kind of autonomy or at least you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► giving him a good good amount of authority so it matters like who buys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► you but if you look at one of the reasons why why you might wanna Saudi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► Yahoo instead of say Google it because Google has not shown that the very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► acquire and are so many things that go bump my Google and then either get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► stagnated or shut down or the people get annoyed about internal stuff and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► leave so you know if it matters who buys you and if you care about your future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► happiness and the future health of your product you gotta make sure you sell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► to somebody who works right you gotta make sure that you sell to somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► you trust to to be decent to work with and to do well but the product you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► sell to anybody willing to pay a good price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► Yahoo would have been much better off tho buying the Tumblr as it existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► several years ago like you do you really want you really bad idea is to buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► hip new things just as its kind of breaking like as I almost feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► Tumblr not the time to time has passed but tumblr has already gotten to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3044">TS</a>]
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00:50:51 ◼ ► the graphical user wrote you would really love to about it before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► little needy and in the graph right then you feel like you got in on something on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3054">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► the ground floor and it just takes off while you have it where the worst-case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► scenario tumblr is it's massively popular now it was a big thing everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► has a temper is really popular and then just like tapers off like you bought at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► draw something that I mean that was that was an example of being by a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► acquire that everybody hates that screws everything up that's why we can laugh at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3078">TS</a>]
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00:51:28 ◼ ► companies like nobody cares if I mean it like in this deal like you had to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► in this deal of marcos you know it's taken tumblr side would you rather be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► Yahoo that now on tumblr would you rather be the investors are employees of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3098">TS</a>]
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00:51:45 ◼ ► tumblr people got the better half of the steel but see I don't know I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3105">TS</a>]
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00:51:55 ◼ ► quite well as a result of this but like Yahoo now has to deliver whereas tumblr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► like made an amazing product they got really big they got sold on trade terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► of birds seem to be very favorable to them and like a very success or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► matter what happens from now on and Yahoo it remains to be seen like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► future is still to be written the pressure is now on them to us they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► not screwed up that's certainly true but you know just looking at like who got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► their money's worth here looks like a pretty pretty good mutual benefit anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► speaking of business terms actually pretty cool this is a sponsor is Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► Azure mobile services now because you're all probably nerds like us you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► probably heard this advertising other nerdy podcasts and other blogs but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► is this is interesting Windows Azure mobile services by Microsoft guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► Microsoft make it faster and easier to build a cloud powered iOS app so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► basically a cloud platform you write the code in Java Script actually it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► believed to have a node NodeJS interface as well as I believe a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► languages sorry about not knowing that that wasn't part of the script but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► heard it was pretty cool they take care of the glue code necessary for storing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► data in the cloud and authenticating users via Facebook or Twitter and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► sending Apple's push notifications and if you've written push notification code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► and haven't having to having to deal with all those various tickets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► everything you'll know that this is this is great to have someone else do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► for you so anyway mobile services you can I pushed your app it's a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► command post are a pianist dots and you can see the API pretty awesome you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► you shouldn't need to build your own massive server infrastructure if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► don't want to you know it's nice to have options we've talked about this in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► show in the past and one of the people's blood by this before it was talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► is Brent Simmons and Brent Simmons actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► kind of a spokesperson for Windows Azure mobile services he he did a few videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► for them you can see if you go to the site go to Windows Azure dot com slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► iOS and you can go see Brandt talking in videos showing how to do this and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► this can do it's pretty awesome you know it's it's we think of Microsoft is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► this company that we as Mac people can kind of ignore but they're good they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► getting to the server business in the service of business pretty well and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► is worth looking at I i I tell myself it looks pretty interesting so anyway if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► you looking to build an iOS app or the connection at you already have to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► take a look at as your mobile services you can start today for free so good a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► Windows Azure dot com slash iOS and thanks again for sponsoring the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► used to be like when these things like ec2 and other services first came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► and I was like oh well this is great you know I won't have to setup man serving I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► can try this thing with people who are ya but if you ever wanna be like a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► player on the internet you have to do all this yourself now the real players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► use easy to write and now like I was just reading you know some Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► something saying the netflixs something like twenty thousand ec2 instances like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► there's no there's no one like you know you got to play with the big boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► Netflix is a big boy like a third of all internet traffic and something that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► never an easy to like that you know back in the nineties you Marc Andreessen or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► saying like in the future we're all going to buy computing services are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► you know i i at a retail and biamby compute and storage in the cloud in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► Yeah Yeah Yeah right and then like without us noticing that it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► happens on things like Windows Azure and everything like I think a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► who are least people my age look at it like that's fine and everything but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► I really want my my iOS a position to be like a serious apps are going to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► myself because you know those things are just people who are just starting out no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► like the biggest companies in the world are using these type of retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► if they're good enough for Netflix believe me they're gonna figure you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► feeling a lot of this year we talked a lot about this stuff and development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► whenever technology is gonna move up the stack and get further away from the bare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► metal and in some kind of way you see it with language is going from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► assembly to see to higher level stuff and memory manage stuff and as always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► these arguments about this new thing is only for you know X small segment or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► only for you know new people to programming or whatever and then you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► those things always slowly become a hipster because like you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► actually looking at you start realizing well these days it really isn't worth it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► for almost anybody to write assembly language and and you know something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► server side stuff you see like it's already almost not worth it frame by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► Article ok server to actually unit actually buy a physical server and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► it somewhere like that that's worth doing for almost nobody and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► dedicated servers now I mean I've been a huge dedicated server fan for years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► years and years just like you know just leasing a dedicated server somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► that's that's meant the harbor is maintained by somebody else even that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► though is really hard to justify today cos VPS are so good and cheap and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► you have the other platforms you have as your you have things like Heroku for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► reals and and and your PC to a look at a lower level and things that are built on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► ec2 like I think her but you know you have all these days new iCloud at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► platforms where you don't even have to manage server instances anymore you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► don't have too many virtual servers anymore there's even these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► getting abstracted away and and it's it's gone way beyond like tinkering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► hobbyist territory to the point where as johnnie said there's a lot of serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► stuff that's built on this and and it's you know it's it's no longer just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► newbies to programming but it happens to be really nice if you are correct it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3474">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► seems to me like with every movement up the stack all the old-timers say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► whippersnapper zand not having to worry about memory management oh you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► bunch of wimps and then eventually everyone realizes you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► and I don't do that and so this is just another example of that and as her in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► linked list post earlier tonight about how if you think heavily paraphrasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► but if you think that Microsoft needs to go forward and it needs to do so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► arguably two categories one is services and one is devices will you could easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► argue that Azure is the services component and as a hopefully decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► the Xbox is very likely going to be the device that brings Microsoft into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► post-pc era so which are you talking about the Xbox one Xbox 360 or the Xbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► one exactly I'm talking about the good one thats 359 less than the previous one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► but it's still good in fact that supposed to be better I like despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► what john thinks I think it was a great system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► the first Xbox the Ferrari love for her to call the Xbox you could have a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► enjoyable for you to that do you wanna talk about the Wii U's abysmal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► performance at all but that hasn't sold any of them like they're having major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► problems over there but nobody else I think I think maybe like a typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► actors item boy I did notice a in John's living room that not only to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► two wheels of course still set up because I believe you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► hypercritical second last episode while you're keeping the old way for some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► of control issue but then on top of your TV you had both censor bars perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3596">TS</a>]
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01:00:06 ◼ ► could share them but as tagged me throw off the balance like the better I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► first world problems II you intended to build the wrong thing so it's a bummer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► but the one thing to things and tender has going for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► 1 it is owned by people who are not history and foolish and like it or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► the windows like greedy shareholders who is one bad quarter it's time to sell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► whole company and start making you know fried dough instead or something right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► and to have a lot of money in the bank I don't know if an internal privately held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► some of the chatroom can tell me but that's not like you know it you s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3646">TS</a>]
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01:00:59 ◼ ► right that's not the way it works I mean if that was the Nintendo would have sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3659">TS</a>]
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01:01:08 ◼ ► they're sort of you know very proud in it for the long haul not likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► acquisition targets and have money in the bank from all the good years so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► do terribly this generation of consoles and come out the other side with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/3679">TS</a>]
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01:13:18 ◼ ► infrastructure contracts but like it's not happening it's hard to get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► them so in the interim while we're waiting for the world to realign it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4402">TS</a>]
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01:13:32 ◼ ► the incredibly hard problem taking all these things and unifying them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► providing a better experience you know I maybe maybe that's never gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4416">TS</a>]
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01:13:44 ◼ ► internet you deal with yourself tonight will try to bring it through an Xbox one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4424">TS</a>]
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01:13:59 ◼ ► cable boxes output but I don't think they have any control of your DVR and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4439">TS</a>]
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01:14:28 ◼ ► really really simple and make it pretty do we know any companies that may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► back in 2005 r6 unlike boy you know Apple in a TiVo is really falling down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4473">TS</a>]
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01:14:43 ◼ ► going to the All Things D conference and I think it was 2008 or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► someone in the audience asked a similar question and he said flat out we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4486">TS</a>]
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01:14:54 ◼ ► agree with him his reasoning was virtually sound like this the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4494">TS</a>]
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01:15:05 ◼ ► can't be done with all these cable companies are not going to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► their programming and and the cable companies by the programming and his big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4508">TS</a>]
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01:15:27 ◼ ► to usurp the value from companies hate us and have the ability to screw us by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► changing how they do things you know that's why the box doesn't exist right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4531">TS</a>]
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01:15:54 ◼ ► the name in like well what a crazy guys but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► box one ever said what do you mean the first Xbox people called it now just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► listen one box that would unify your entire television experience right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► video conferencing browse the internet and Netflix play games watch live TV one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► box does everything that's where I assume the one is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► finish watching the press conference thing that I something to lean on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► and it falls short of fulfilling a dream it is not one box stores and you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► still be changing input just because the world of content you watching television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► too so byzantine that it's almost impossible for one box to do everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4589">TS</a>]
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01:16:39 ◼ ► sense to potentially get an antagonistic relationship with content owners it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► doesn't make business sense to try to conquer all these disparate systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► on the other hand it's a company like Apple that is used to selling what most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► would consider expensive products and if you if Apple said to you John for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4612">TS</a>]
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01:17:04 ◼ ► the Netflix and all that they will all be consumed by this one box and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4624">TS</a>]
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01:17:12 ◼ ► you'll be able to play you know real racing on it would would you pony up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4632">TS</a>]
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01:17:21 ◼ ► think Apple could actually do like everything about what happens really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► good at Apple's really good at editing what's possible deleting options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► saying no to things to make something that's overall grade but limited in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► way and those limits make it great or unable to be great in other ways with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► the TV business the TV industry whatever you know whatever this is if you say no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► to anything you're out you know your irrelevant and and so imagine you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► if you have a cable company to launch without supporting a spin like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► just like there's nothing that there's no way to succeed right and so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► people aren't used to not having everything with TV most people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► cable TV and they have a billion channels and if they want anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► to it they just plug it in and that's fine if Apple were to come together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► say here's a box that does eighty percent of that no one's gonna behind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► or people already will buy it but only people who were you know who want just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► happened that's that's what they already sell its Apple TV that's the play of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► your Apple as you want to shift you want to shift people away you want to shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► their value away from these cable packages like cable cable companies have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► nots not so much monopolies black duopoly is maybe one or two choices for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► companies and have all this money and infrastructure and they're hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► their worst nightmare is to become dumb pipes for Internet connections and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► that's what Apple wants to companies like 12 shift the value away from those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► and towards content that's available over the internet because the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► you know it's free for everybody or whatever it's not tied up with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4742">TS</a>]
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01:19:11 ◼ ► Netflix in our box then we've got house of cards not popular content right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► HBO that's you know they can get HBO Go and finally we can airplane to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► television but still you need a cable subscription to get in like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► trying to pull the value out of the hands of the cable companies into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► realm that they control rather than trying to say okay well we accept the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► fact that right now cable companies have this valuable content and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► deal with watching one thing one place one thing either so let's try to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► box in front of a market that's not the Apple philosophy philosophy is not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► a big mess and we will try to hide that from you it's we're gonna new world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► isn't a mess and we're just gonna go there and it will be up there headed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► and not a lot of people follow us but hopefully we'll be able to slowly drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► the value out of that ecosystem and then one day care becomes a wake up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► realize hey wait a second if if we don't have a house of cards over the popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► Netflix thing is we're screwed and people don't want to buy cable package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► because I say hey what about the popular show that I go but that's only available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► for some internet TV thing I like it's a battle between same thing with a cap on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► the phone carriers like every month every month the carriers who suck at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► everything to be dumb pipes acceptable carriers themselves right so cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► carriers cable companies none of them want to be like utilities were you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► so we just bring you the Internet over a pipe and every other company entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► world this please just be a company that brings a fascination over dumb pipe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► let everyone else competes content with absent channels and stuff like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► in this tragedy transition stage we just all suffer and I don't know who's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► to win that battle but I really hope it's not the carriers and cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► companies gunbattle a spokesman for a second one conversation I'd love to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4848">TS</a>]
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01:21:07 ◼ ► of world this was in 2005 you know think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4867">TS</a>]
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01:21:17 ◼ ► it's been around for a while but the Xbox 360 has been around longer and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► would be for the iPhone came out that was before the entire smartphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► revolution like smartphones existed but only rich businesspeople had them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► because they're really expensive and they sucked so that was so long ago that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► the system was envisioned this is before Netflix streaming existed before almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► any streaming service for video existed I think certainly before May people used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► them and it was before all these massive changes in how we entertain ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► how we get our video content how and where we watch videos and play games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4915">TS</a>]
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01:22:04 ◼ ► that's that's that's the game console type that's what that whole game comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4924">TS</a>]
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01:22:13 ◼ ► jumping on stuff with the Xbox they did they need to jump on quickly and well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► like Xbox Live was the first good online place service for video game consoles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► and might still be the only good one I don't know I don't know if the place is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► one of the better but certainly Xbox Live is really good and people loved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4949">TS</a>]
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01:22:38 ◼ ► netflix on devices streaming the Xbox was on that and they they had that very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4958">TS</a>]
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01:22:49 ◼ ► are entertained themselves now how many people are are getting these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► using the 360 as a Netflix streaming device is an extremely inefficient use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4973">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► of the hardware and you know said they were hearing the big fans and strong god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► knows how many water slowly burning itself out secrets the red ring of death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4985">TS</a>]
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01:23:13 ◼ ► of using something of that power level to do something relatively simple like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► what Netflix's the people sitting there for hours a night doing that and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► the previous type of console was designed in a way that doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► match with how people do things in this day and age and this has been a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► long console generation so it seems like you know nintendo's with the Wii U [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► attempted to modernize it a little bit and just didn't really go far enough or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► just didn't do it well enough for a compelling enough package I think sony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► has done pretty well with the ps3 and it looks like the ps4 is really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► but we don't have a good execute yet I would say Microsoft looks like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/5036">TS</a>]
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01:24:20 ◼ ► today on on Anandtech international as well about the Xbox one announcement and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/5060">TS</a>]
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01:24:40 ◼ ► definitely runway cooler and quieter as a result the thing about that the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► you suggest that the Xbox one is meant to be turned on all the time exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/5086">TS</a>]
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01:24:58 ◼ ► still for the most part of pure gaming console and ps4 has a super low power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTc8-_8/5098">TS</a>]
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