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00:00:04 ◼ ► propagating single bit errors and all your backups and infinitum you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► think about that how I choose not to worry about that when your wedding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/11">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► pictures are corrupted in the giant pink pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/21">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► well firstly appeal pics on my face would be your prolly be an improvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/24">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► but secondly I have like 35 backups that including the original there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/27">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► corrupted because once they go back to the original disk you just corrupting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► your backups just propaganda corruption because you have no idea to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/33">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► original DVDs will keep it hot spots on Inc under plastic that a lot of forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/39">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► and organic dyes so it decomposes I hate you so much so what we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/46">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► well this is turning into the external market podcast because you've gone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/55">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► sold stuff again I'm waiting to be told that I've been replaced or sold or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/60">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► know somebody else's my daddy now so a big week yet little bit at least this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/65">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► the last one out of stuff do things I saw so many jokes about how your next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/71">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► appt has already been sold and nobody even knows what it is yet that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► pretty good I don't know what it is yet that's pretty good actually at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► point to know what it is but we'll see if you just pay attention to what such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/85">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► as the go-to during the BBC will probably get a pretty easily but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/90">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► doesn't matter I don't know why I'm really excited to finally have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/94">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► basically I mentioned at some point before the magazine sales public in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/100">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► I should mention to like we never engine this almost a month ago and it just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/105">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► happened that we did arrange it after the Instapaper thing but it was before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/110">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► the Tumblr thing and so we as a team of things going on in every million going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/114">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► into man this is gonna be hilarious when we announced and everyone everything i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/120">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► think im just selling everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► but yeah i the main reasons I wanted to sell the magazine were you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/126">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► in the blog post which is basically I had created a job for myself that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/136">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► lot less of what I wanted to do than I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/141">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► like it was a lot of just administrative stuff and and process stuff and overhead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/144">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► and almost no development you know I kind of wish that I failed spectacularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/149">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► as you do in creating these are appearing at these lucrative appearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/155">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► businesses that you just have to be burdened with unloading it's a tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/160">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► life you live Marco sorry I me know it's you know it the other main reason that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/164">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► wanted to so it is that because it was taking up my time and it was and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/171">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► it's a mental burden as well having these things you know like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/178">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► you do you know occupies some kind of space in your mind and in your you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/181">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► when you look in your present state of mind I'm probably abusing these terms I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/186">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► know I'm definitely not a Buddhist or anything that anyone who would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/189">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► trained properly and in being able to describe these things but i i i dont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/193">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► know I don't like having things on my played they're not really into and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/203">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► obviously there's some stuff that you got to do just you know you gotta do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/209">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► like you guys do your taxes you got a you know clean your house and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/212">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► like their stuff you gotta do but some like making your own business you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/216">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► that's you have control over that so anyway one of the reasons why I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/222">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► to sell Instapaper was because it was like weighing on me mentally that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/226">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► didn't want to put in the effort into it that it really deserved and and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/232">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► I couldn't put in the effort really deserved with the magazine it was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/236">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► indefinitely because it wasn't taking up much of my time but why keep a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/242">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► around that I'm barely putting anything into and what I learned also like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/247">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► know the answer to that question the right now because it makes money right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/253">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► around that makes money that I barely put anything into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/259">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► yeah that's the answer but the reality is like you know you can ask Ashley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/263">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► thinking of this will generate money for ever like you know maybe but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/269">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► gonna be involved whether you like it or not like it like it's gonna need you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/274">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► know like it's the idea of a business that generates passive money you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/278">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► have to touch it that those do exist but not really in the software world they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/282">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► were they really don't exist you can you can neglect something for a while and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/287">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► can work for a little while but it doesn't really exist in the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/291">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► you're still going to have to maintain that you're still gonna be responsible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► for that you know it doesn't you can't just let it sit there and and stagnate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/299">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► forever you know eventually things are going to dwindle down people going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/305">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► see the you haven't done much to it while and they're gonna move on or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/308">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► something going to break you know would like to text me at one problem something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► might break at any point and you know cause problems so there's no reason you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/316">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► couldn't have done exactly what glenn is doing now which is like you know so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/321">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► taking the reins now and he's not a developer had both not a lot this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/324">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► of developer so he is just maybe bringing people on to take over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/328">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► development the IRS to apt to do also translate things while he you know sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/331">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► of Rangel's them so it seems to me that it's like if your heart was in it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/336">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► this what you really wanted to be was like run a publication and grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/341">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► publication you would be doing it you know it has less to do with whether I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/345">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► mean whether the thing is making lots of money or a little bit money or how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► it's going to make money because you're perfectly capable of doing the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/354">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► that glenn is doing with it basically delegating to other people to do all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/357">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► stuff delegating the development everything is that that does seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/361">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► something you want to do that's right you know and i could delegate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/364">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► development to somebody else but the development was the party like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/368">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► and but there just wasn't that much and I want to do with it like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/372">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► loved building the app and loved a little design tricks and everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/377">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► I love doing all that once the app is done I'm like well you know it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/381">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► maintenance mode basically and you couldn't there certainly features you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► add there's some there's some good stuff to do it but it was also that I'd I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/390">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► really didn't care that much about I wasn't that motivated to do and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/394">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► you're right that if I wanted to keep doing this I could have there there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/400">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► nothing you know of course I could have my theory is that but while I know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/405">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► know just the way I feel I know that I'm not really I'm just not that into doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/411">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► the management in the business stuff you know that's why I do that stuff because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/420">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► I have to not because I really loved it and so the magazine had become my role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/425">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► in the magazine had become pretty much all business stuff and overhead and none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/431">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► of the stuff I wanted to do very often and so what I also learned I was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/437">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► to our friend underscore David Smith recently a couple hours ago and Casino [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/441">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► David Smith has lots of apps he he has a portfolio of many apps he does a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/448">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► things I don't think I can really do that you know when when I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/452">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► working on the magazine alongside Instapaper after I started learning some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► of these difficulties and my my motivation our personality or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/460">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► it is whatever it is I'm not very good at working on multiple apps at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/464">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► time the same type you know I can do a web app and a native app that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/468">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► that those are different enough I can do a nap a podcast and blog because those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/474">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► are very different things and they they serve different different parts of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/478">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► brain and my and my my satisfaction and what I what I do when I make but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/483">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► really don't think I'm very good at having multiple apps that need attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/488">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► like kind of a nursing clock app that was nothing you know you can I crapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/492">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► out in a couple of days and and and it does it didn't require any maintenance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/498">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► and it made something like 30 bucks over the course of its life but you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/503">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► didn't require any maintenance so that you know that's another that's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/507">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► other story but to have like two apps going at the same time that both need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/510">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► good amount of attention on going I can't do that I I really don't work well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/515">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► way so I really I i wana I wanted to try this new thing I'm doing and it's an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/521">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► app so you know I wanted to start a new thing and I know I could have kept doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/529">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► the magazine but I was so not that into it already has a piece of what I what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/534">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► job had become that I created for myself I was so not that into it already that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/540">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► you know i i wanted to clean place I wanted to have nothing else competing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/545">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► for my attention in the in the app space also I mentioned last episode or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/551">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► recently I don't know what I don't talk about mentioned last episode or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/556">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► something like that that that I work in burst of productivity running a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/561">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► publication doesn't really allow you to do that because there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/565">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► publication schedule so every two weeks even though it wasn't a lot of work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/570">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► me know glenn was doing almost all of it already but every two weeks I had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/575">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► XYZ and doing a podcast and you know that's that's a little bit different in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/579">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► that it's easier and it's more of me being creative and having this creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/585">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► output publishing an issue of the magazine did not involve creativity on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/589">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► my part by very much you know why I picked a few photos and put the cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► image that's about it and I had to pay checks to everybody and do the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/596">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► push and stuff like that and he just wasn't it wasn't that interesting so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/600">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► like having to do it every two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► felt like a restriction on me whereas oh and you can only take a week off I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/607">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► show you know if we really want to we could take a week off not that any of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/612">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► are likely to do that but if we really wanted to we could take a week off with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/616">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► with a publication you can't so it was a lock me into this fixed schedule but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/621">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► don't really work very well that way so that was another reason but anyway it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/627">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► the main reason I wanted to sell it was because I wanted to clear my plate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/631">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► and and be able to put myself into my next project fully and that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/636">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► complete sense and not to cycle and psychoanalyze you at all but it seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/642">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► me that we're seeing a trend and certainly have no need for a really long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/648">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► i feel like im someone qualified to speak about this it seems like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/652">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► seeing a trend that anything that's compulsory you tend to not like and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/657">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► the case of the magazine once you know it's a trend since like 1st grade it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/661">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► I that's exactly my point you've talked a lot about how you don't really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/666">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► homework you've talked about how you don't really love paying taxes which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/671">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► granted who does my love I love playing tackle that only dealing with it well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/675">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► mean so also it seems like part of the reason that you got turned off by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/680">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► magazine to build on what you're saying before is because you had to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/686">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► productive at certain times it's not that you hated necessarily doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/689">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► work at least that's what it sounds to me anyway that it's not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/694">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► doing the work as much as you had to do it at a certain time and that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/697">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► tough and the other thing I'll say and then you can refute everything I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► told you if you want because I'm trying to put words in your mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► the other thing I'll say is it's like the same reason you don't have the 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► a.m. anymore you've got your fancy nice car you don't want to have to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/710">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► between two equally fancy nice cars so ridiculously good I know you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/714">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► get me started when I want to do that nobody nobody but you know i mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/719">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► don't want to have to choose between two nice things any more than you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► have to choose between two crummy things or whatever the case may be and whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/728">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► or not other people understand what the burden was that matters he felt it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/732">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► burden and you felt that you had to work on it rather than desired to and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/738">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► that's the point at which at least to me it seems that's the point at which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► sold Instapaper when you felt like you had to work on it that's the point which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/745">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► he saw the magazine's well when you felt like you had to work on it and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/749">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► didn't want to work on it anymore I mean turnouts I was twenty that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► saying yeah that's that's pretty accurate i mean you know I i'm not i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/755">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► not another very complicated personality there's not a lot of layers here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/759">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► pretty much what you see is what you get like you know I don't make any effort to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/765">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► hide all that stuff and you know that that's that's me i mean that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/769">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► fair John any observations on that before we totally sidestep thanks Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/774">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► is doing what we would do if we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► not do the things you don't want to do it do things you do want to do right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/782">TS</a>]
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00:13:14 ◼ ► out now is whether or not I should ask questions yet I will in time I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/794">TS</a>]
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00:13:26 ◼ ► head whether whether to announce anything about the app before it's ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/806">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► whether to put up like a splash page and do all that both groups or or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/811">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► all the all the stuff people do I put their app havoc you and I knew that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/819">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► you know had like a splash page antes it's a coming soon who you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/823">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► wanna do that or just say what the Appleby and then click feedback the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/828">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► expense of having competitors you know then copy me and stuff so I i dont know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/832">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► why I'm gonna decide all those things over the next coming over the next few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/837">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► months but but what I what I have decided is that I'm not going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/841">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► any major decisions about the apps feature set or design or layout or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/846">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► navigational structure until after the BBC I want to see what I was 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/852">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► introduces I want to see what's different and what's coming up and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/857">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► I will decide fully like here's the kind of you know feature set this will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/860">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► here's what the business model like you know if they introduce something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► upgrade pricing her trials that might influence my decision on the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/867">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► model so I don't want to make any decisions yet on all those big things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/871">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► but and I'll see you know it may be throughout the summer meal tease it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► maybe I will just announced it outright and it won't be available yet or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/878">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► I'll just shut up about it until it's ready I don't know yet what did you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/883">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► what Justin Williams is doing with whatever he's building I do not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/887">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► chance to look at that yeah yeah I forget what he's calling it man I win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/891">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► this is an accidental pocket and he said yes it's a car reference case we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/896">TS</a>]
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00:15:13 ◼ ► bits and blurbs about the forthcoming app as he decides to release it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/913">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► whether or not you believe in pre releasing things and pronouncing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/918">TS</a>]
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00:15:34 ◼ ► point of it has to do things like a combination of of being able to tease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/934">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► apps that are coming and also like the iOS version of a newsletter yeah he like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/938">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► traditional software developers especially Indies who likes on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/944">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► and stuff they they have for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/949">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► had like mailing list they maintain then you know I talked with us before our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/953">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► friends over there we're like they hardly ever mail anything out to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/959">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► but when they make a brand new product or a major update then they will and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/962">TS</a>]
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00:16:10 ◼ ► coming back and buy new stuff and people actually like that and I west there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/970">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► there's no good way to do it you can kind of you weren't allowed to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/974">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► push notifications of the people do but you are allowed to technically and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/978">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► know you want to annoy people and you also don't usually have access to things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/982">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► like their email address so this is an interesting idea if it's gonna address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/987">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► some of that be beyond just the promoting upcoming app thing but I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/991">TS</a>]
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00:16:41 ◼ ► thoughts of saying he did wasn't sure whether he wanted to think ahead of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► it seems pretty clear to me that you don't want to tease in a time but only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► considering it because it may be a good way to you know bill you know good buzz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1009">TS</a>]
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00:17:05 ◼ ► somebody about this article over that was hopeful it wasn't you guys that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1025">TS</a>]
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00:17:19 ◼ ► they keep they keep wrote in this thing everywhere and I see it everywhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► it's it's a documentary it's been like film festivals and stuff but i cant get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1043">TS</a>]
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00:18:09 ◼ ► available and it's alright here's awesome new thing you want this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► you can buy it today or this Friday you know that's you can you respond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► immediately the hype does something for you when when the price on even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► available yet and not be available for months what can you really do with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► what can you really do with all that hype like to meeting its kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► arrogant to expect people to remember all that crap in two or three months I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1110">TS</a>]
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00:18:40 ◼ ► way way ahead of time but perhaps like like basically first you don't put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► anything up until the thing is basically done and all you're doing is delaying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► so you can build the site so maybe it was only like one week or two weeks lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► time when you are actually finished basically you're just like this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► ramp-up choose a lie I wouldn't say like to do with the movies and teases the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► summer before it comes out with you know some of scary image to get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► excited about what the movie is you know but it's what I was getting at before is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► that if marketing was not a factor at all and human beings weren't buying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► application here just making sure your notification you would release it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► it's done the not say anything about it ahead of time to say what it is at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► point right now it seems like your inclination is why would never tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1161">TS</a>]
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00:19:29 ◼ ► only reason you're considering it is because maybe maybe that attitude is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1169">TS</a>]
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00:19:40 ◼ ► image or something like that you know you have to look at it as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1180">TS</a>]
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00:20:28 ◼ ► need to pray announcer and need is a probably poor choice of words but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► everything you might want to pronounce we know that you're working on an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1231">TS</a>]
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00:20:37 ◼ ► really need to know any more than that and I think I echo what your what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1237">TS</a>]
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00:24:49 ◼ ► like you know they seem like where do these people come from or when they must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► have been toiling on this in obscurity for like years they said they'd been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► Microsoft platforms for eight years so I think that's where they came from his is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► the day started out there and then and now the branch and I was that makes some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► sense because Mike how in the world do you ever accomplished that in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► reasonable time for any you know I have no idea and more like an apple do stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► they just don't care about anyone but themselves they themselves paying taxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► God and sorta kinda speaking paying taxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► the other thing I want to bring at least briefly talked about is Tim Cook at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► last night I believed at the time recording which is Tuesday night so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► there were a couple of interesting things that came of this and to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► honest conversation may be fairly short but one of the things that I thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► really awesome was the way he talked about how Apple used their job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► him said we think that the customer pays sauce to make certain choices on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► instead of going in and I've seen some settings on these phones were here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► your deep into the bowels of the thing choosing this and that me other than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► other than that I don't think that's what most customers more just someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► that yes supports but is that a mainstream customer when I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► so I thought that was about as good a way as any that i've ever heard somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► sum up the way Apple approaches products and I know when I talk to a lot of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► developer friends particularly the local ones that works a.net or other languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► they all get very angry about the fact that they don't have a lot of control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► over iOS devices and that's why a lot of museums or advices and I i keep coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► back to you know five ten years ago maybe ten years ago I would have much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► preferred an Android device because I could fiddle with it and tweak it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► turn it into something honestly kind of awful but now I just want stuff to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► and I want Apple to make those choices for me and I and again I thought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► was just an unbelievably good and short way of summing it up I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► you guys thought about it I was getting nervous when I hear Tim Cook saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► product related thanks not that I think like leaving his house he speaks with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► company that's fine and everything but that I'm IIS my picture of him in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► head is not like that's not his strength like I would much rather see him when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► starts talking about something like why they don't have a large line of phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► and all the different things but international business and manufacturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► I'm confident that he's an expert in those areas but in these other areas I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► feel like here's doing what a lot of other invite normal CEO's do which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► really saying the result of discussions with the lower level experts in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► company or a tier below him we're here below them you know I don't I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► like it does sound like oh you know it sounds like a summary of previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► discussions and i dont if you left it out to ten cook what things would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► allowed to be insulting someone things wouldn't be I feel like you make bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► decisions in one direction or another and you know they would would have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► few seconds but there'll be the wrong settings are here and no settings mats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► untenable just ask mark up or he would have too many settings and not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► style settings hold separate topics like it you know the reason and we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► about this because it's not easy you can just give her like are you should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► no settings are are you should have its you setting as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► you have to have just the exact right settings you have to know it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► like a gut feeling or whatever what are the right settings that what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► important what isn't because we all know that you know the settings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► application can make or break it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► doesn't mean you have to have a lot of them but if you don't know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► doing a lot of them it's like well everyone needs to change something can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► change things I want to change that's pretty terrible right but by the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► token if you put in the wrong settings only three seconds into the wrong ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► it's like man this absolutely perfect if I could only do accent doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► be effortless name could be something important like it totally breaks away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► worker's application because it doesn't you know I can't change this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► behavior and then it drives me insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► the application is no good for you and everyone got one of those you can so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► that everybody so like that's the art of it figuring out for the most people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► the top five most important things that should be settings because neither [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► decision is clearly right thing to do and that's what I know within that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► sort of an arch more than anything else on here like I'm a jury type person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► giving a pat answer like oh they pay us to make decisions for them and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► some people want settings but most people don't let people applaud that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► like this that's like a platitude it's not you know if I know that's backed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1796">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► the good taste to know which ones to set them that's fine but if it is here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► isolation unlike you know I'm not impressed by that statement but it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► no I don't think you're being mean to Tim Cook but what i think is hard is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► realize early start for me anyways to realize that team may not be the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► that knows that unlike steve but he's smart enough to find the person man or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► woman that can make that call and empower them to do so and I think giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► Jony ive and Craig Federici a little bit more control is evidence of that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► that I think Tim knows that he's not that guy but he won't power the guy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► girl that is that guy or girl that make any sense at all like his he's got it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► unfair to him as he only one guy can be on that stage and it's got to be him so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► he has to speak for the company right i mean we're kind of spoiled by Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► where he could speak about that particular topic like it was reversed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► Steve Johnson Steve Jobs to talk about like supply chains and and inventory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► then you tell he was not talking about something that he was he was merely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► channeling Tim Cook and it's weird to see that reversed now you know when tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► is talking about financial stuff and supply chains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► that's like him talking and the other times it's him representing the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► well i i think first of all I think it's worth pointing out that steve did make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► tons of bad decisions and he did often rely on the people below him arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► with him until he relented and and and sometimes he didn't relent and ship bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► decisions to the public and then head to head to go back on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► so I you know there's that anyway I think china think you're being a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► bit me know me too I think you know you look at this guy talk and I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► halfway through the video I i read the livestream last night as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► happening but the last year does not capture it very well first of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► live stream is generally paraphrase they don't they don't usually say the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► words to the usually can't keep up and and so you know it helps to watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► video to really get an idea of what he said exactly what he said and how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► said it and you look at the sky speak and he has a rock I mean he he is rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► stable rock-solid he was saying with congress like you can't make the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► flinch and I think if he was if he was mainly just repeating things he was told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► her things you had been taught by the by the by the lower down people about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► product costs fees and stuff I don't think he would be quite as Solomon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► talking about the many think I think you'd see him doing a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► misstatements or kind of awkward clumsy handling of the Stevens but he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► do that he is rock solid and so i i think i think he really has internalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► everything he needs to internalize too to be that kind of the CEO of a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► focused company like this i really think that he that he knows a lot more and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► has a lot more responsibilities than given credit for here looking for is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► basically like you know i i don't think he doubts that he's shaken many of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► principles but when it comes down to it as I said the tricky part about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► not this unlike a lot of the economic stuff is not a science it's more of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► art and he's not the one with that gut feeling that is going to drive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► company has he said you know Steve Jobs got too but for the most part in the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► sweeping decisions like we should make a deal computer we should make a music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► player and it should be like this and we should get into phones and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► going to ship until it's good enough for me like in the in the big things his gut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► drove these things so it's one thing to say you know this this abstract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► philosophy of will make decisions for you and choose what needs to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► application and what doesn't and nothing to know that that is also the guy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► got it going to guide big sweeping things like what is Mac OS 10 gonna look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► like the fact that was all crazy and blue and shiny or whatever right place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► at the right thing to do the wrong thing to do i mean your gut can be wrong about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► these things and like he's not the guy with that right that's true even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► he understands the principles and like I said I think it's basically receive jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► who never jobs talked about the economic stuff he's a smart guy he knew all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► principles but when it came down to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► decide like which supply should do what and how much of the flash memory should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► be pretty by and it's a good deal we're gonna be saddled with tons of LCDs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► we don't mediator should wait for this he wasn't the guy to make that call but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► he just understand all the underlying concepts and it's probably true that Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► Cook is much much more solid been talking about top topics that he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► the super duper expert in the jobs was because I dot jobs to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► economics he sounded more like he was somebody merely parroting things that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► learned from other people even though he also probably understood them but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► think the thing that looks favorite during this entire thing and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► i think i to last year's WWDC which I probably came across in the keynote we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► were there we saw a speck on the stage of whatever but you can't feel them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► around that the Tim Cook is has the same enthusiasm and passion and he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► faking it Steve Jobs have these things I think about the time he was he was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► stage talking about like that the blind guy using the iPad to like walk around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► the woods and he's in my season Academy award-winning actor he was not faking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► like the fact that that that made him feel like what he's doing with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► career and life is meaningful write more so than all the stuff they asked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► market share files or whatever he is really you know touched by the idea the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► things he's making your changing the world in a touchy-feely Apple you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► and that that i think is his best asset as CEO Markus second-best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► second to his expertise in the job that he had before he was see is the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► that he really is enthusiastic about the stuff and he's not he's not a bean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► counter and he's not just out there too assertive steer the ship and like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► not just a manager from Andrew sake why you have to come back to where he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► before I you know why you know you don't sell sugar water coming Stephen change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► the world well with Tim too I think we've really seen over the last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► especially we've really seen him just developed this incredible image of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► not only being an absolute rock about everything and you know this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► definitely a guy you want running your company but you can also tell that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► not an idiot on any level like you know like to use of Steve Jobs where the he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► not a bozo at all like you can tell this guy is sharp and knows exactly what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► doing but he's also and he has he's very deliberate in what he does you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► doesn't it doesn't feel like he's like you know there are 38 the law see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► sticks it seems like he's really being a very deliberate about everything he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► but also he projects a very very nice personality when he speaks publicly he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► seems he seems extremely polite well-spoken in personable but still firm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► and strong and so I think he has the perfect image of what you do lawn a CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► of a of an important company to have when he's extremely deliberate in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► way he speaks as well something I wish I could be better about is taking a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► to think about what you were going to say specially in like a one-on-one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► conversation this podcast is little bit different but if you're in a serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► conversation saying remember that I do consultant for a living so say I'm had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► client and they asked me a question my natural inclination is to fire off an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► answer immediately and one thing that I respect deeply about him is that he will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► sit there and allows silence so he can collect his thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► and make sure that his answer is a great one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► not just a good one not just an acceptable one but a great one and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► was a big Steve Jobs and Steve Jobs was just like that that pause and a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► point steve jobs that are you wanted to see pausing together his thoughts or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► now is now is asked of a head game like he's already knows what he's gonna like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► it was a 1998 or whatever he was doing Q&A and the guy pat and they're not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► question about the United question is like it was clear that you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► what you doing here in a bit open doc or something it would never end he just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► pause after that I should time in the video it's like so long are you waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► for their response there I can think of a couple of things to say about Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► just like well compared to save jobs right and with any kind of powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► person speaking publicly like you previously had two choices you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2333">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► guy who really truly believes what he sayin and his earnest about it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► guy who says exactly the right thing but give some kind of hinted he also knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► that it's been good examples being at the top of the stairs the Congressional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► Ethics playing apples business everything and did nothing wrong like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► did exactly what you're supposed to do and i cant decide I actually like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► decide for me I think it's worse to be the guy who really believes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► everything you're telling congress is the 100% straight honest truth like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► know the fact that he never mentioned why then did things overseas and how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► a tax avoidance schemes stuff like that like everything you said was true is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► sort of an errand of omission and I feel more comfortable like Steve Jobs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► doing it he would he would make it clear that everyone knows is BS 'cause ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► watching those its BS congress notice vs Tim Cook know we all know it's like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► of its theater right but sometimes I think that temp the first second or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► I think the team could really believes what he's saying I'm like wait a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► he knows what's really you know he's no dummy we're all in on this or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► but he's so earnestly like oh my god maybe he really believes that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► like now come on here and to me that's worse I would rather have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► like the guy who's in on the sort of shared delusion that were all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► the suspension of disbelief for this theater type thing but then the true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► believer technique is it a second time cook really believes the dead everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► he omitted in discussing the apples various tax shelters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► doesn't exist then we know no trouble I mean this is testament to how incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► Ernest N R's like for a second he can you believe it he really believes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► before the Tim Cook Off things deak on topic I do want to point out also that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► lot of people have said no he hasn't really said anything here he didn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► anything to really learn anything and I think that's all crap I I think he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► quite a lot and he said it in the Apple way and in the Tim Cook way but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► he said quite a lot of interesting things that's criminology I mean like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► you go back to I would watch the Steve Jobs when you're all just looking to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► like it never gonna say so so there's reporters who have no idea about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► know just generic reporters like they go through don't seem like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► anything but for people who are following every single you know there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► a bar that comes out of Apple when you ask him you know what do you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► big screens and I guess you resume tomorrow and the first things I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► mounted as well we're not making one yet I mean like best the answer like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► that is the biggest answer ever gonna get anything like even steve Jobs was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► never that open even in his wildest days we're not making one yet but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► now for the future whatever he doesn't say that if they don't have the largest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► falling like in the planning stages are ready and little little things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► they were dropped everywhere about you know timeline of television time lining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► anything with wearable its kinda reminds me of Steve Jobs Wayne like i remember i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► was way before the iPhone like five years I'm sure that when they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► talking with people were asking about PDA that was the big thing to do is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► a PDA like they tried to buy Palmer and spring or something and been rebuffed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► are now set of results secret no remorse and stuff and people kept asking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► PDA is and a certain point you know give answer is no comments have a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► point steve Jobs said to some reporter really believe that phones over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► future of this is going to be making a phone like that and that's why four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► years my friends and I really like you know what is the iPhone coming everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► called the iPhone cases the iMac iPhone coming in then we start to lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► statesman-like never gonna make a phone it's been such a long time but like back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► then like when when you make a statement like that to reporter you might as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► just come out and say exactly what you're doing I guess reporters can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► report on it because it would be you know the heating season really say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► but for people are reading the tea leaves it's all out there on the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► that in his answers I would say specifically he seemed to confirm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► in his hand in the Apple way he seemed to confirm that they are working on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► kind of watch like device that includes multiple types of sensors and search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► multiple functions don't you did you get the impression that wearable stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► think there might be something new that's a really interesting area one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► thing and it has to have multiple sensors and he's he's he's looking at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► place that Nike FuelBand on his wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► he's like describing his product obliquely at that point I mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► not not even a hint that was like beating you over the head we are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► something like a watch that's going to have multiple sites like the entering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► new product categories like and possibly as it seems the people freak out about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2634">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► it like we did with the phone thing at the phone didn't come out like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► years or whatever it was it was some insane amount of seemed like forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► right it doesn't mean that the water is coming out next week like us the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► with the echo chamber of the news like you know what is coming is gonna come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► out any second now but I mines in these things are huge he just read the tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► is this something that I was even looking at because if you would ask them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► about was thinking of making the car his answer would have been not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► the car a space is really interesting I think are made by Apple could be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► interesting and it would have to use multiple sensors know he would say no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► we're not just a different answer right now all it does is tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► something that you wear that you purchased from Apple that's not a clip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► on iPod Shuffle is potentially in the future of this company and tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► nothing about the timeline other than it's probably not a decade from now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► but even on the timeline I think he was pretty clear that we're going to see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► new category from Apple like this fall or early next year that could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► the TV had he not put the kibosh on that in his answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► conference right you know like going there any calls like new category in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► every category TV which is it for a long time as a new category something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► you wear which also been removed and then fast or to the conference get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► both questions is very different answers my car and I guess it's the thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► where was it him that said that nobody wears watches anymore but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► interesting he said the live streams kind of transcribed as quickly but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► he actually said was like for something to work here you first have to convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► people that so incredible that they want to wear it because we're done that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► two guys are wearing watches if we had a room full ten to twenty year olds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► Henry said everybody stand up that has the Watchung I'm not sure anybody with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► standoff I don't see it ten to twenty year old I mean yeah ok so the guy deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► with data that sounded a lot like they did a survey that sounded like that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► a date that was data that they had looked up already like he wasn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► like that's the kind of thing that steve was just kind of wing from as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► from his gut I think him he was talking as though they were already looking into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► this and he liked the comment about multiple sensors and glasses sucking I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► really think he was pretty clearly telling us there's going to be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► here under siege did do lots of market research jobs like the downplayed it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► was saying they didn't focus your design which is true but underneath example I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► watches anymore is when people were asking about is a producer is a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► iPad is obligated to some sort of reading device or whatever and he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► nobody reads anymore and then he threw out like a couple of statistics in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► only way he would know the statistics up top of his head is from Apple's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► market research they had done in the planning stages for making the iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► Touch iPad which is so clearly in development then it's like by quoting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► statistic that you know is it supposed to be shooting down the the argument of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► the persons they are you should make this thing out nobody read more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► certain people say that no surveys show that people from this age group effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► was throughout unlike you don't know that statistic off the top of your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► if you had not investigated so it's the same time they did do market research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► they continue to do market research to see you know what kind of products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► they're gonna make I don't know if Tim does more of it and Stephen or Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► definite downplayed the idea that the day that you know anything other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► spring from their creativity their big companies to market research I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► they know exactly how many people of what ages wear watches or would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► willing to wear something and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► alright and to that end when he says you know if you have a room full was it ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► twenty year olds or ten to twenty year olds it doesn't think it was ten to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► twenty year old ten to twenty year olds but to be honest it doesn't matter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► point I'm driving out is when he says oh nobody in the ten to twenty year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► range whatever the statistic was wearing a watch is that like a Barney Stinson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► challenge accepted moment or is that him saying no really nobody wants to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► and there's nothing we can do to stop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► well what what he was what he was saying that the theme of what he was saying was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► basically that that if your gonna be able to wear a watch it has to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► really good that like an employment what's on the market now in the villa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► smart watches is not good enough to convince people to wear a watch you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► weren't already and who were nerds like you know people who are buying Google s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► and and so it sounded like it's only what he was saying was a combination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► Google glass is a total flop and I will wear it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► we think there's something to to be had in a in the watch area but nothing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► out there is good enough yet which is typical Apple stuff to stop to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► before they enter market right that's exactly my point is they're saying well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► right now it all sucks but the underlying under your breath comment is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► 0 but we'll show you exactly like men's haps whatever the forties where all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► know you look at the movies all the men on the street in New York City Roller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► hats and then eventually fell out of favor and then nobody had to work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► like it did in fact it would be rude to I had to work to do like a baseball hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/2962">TS</a>]
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01:07:14 ◼ ► today I don't know if I'm ready but especially to the predictions show right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4034">TS</a>]
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01:07:22 ◼ ► cheating to wait for all the while honestly do you think and if you win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4042">TS</a>]
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01:07:48 ◼ ► image of has done notebooks yeah it is an hour that is gonna be announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► they're going to have a little new bad yet we walk out of the macros did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4073">TS</a>]
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01:08:06 ◼ ► MacBook Pro updates with Jenna would at least mention but at least want like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► late slide Phil Schiller mention ya know what I mean like they spent a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4089">TS</a>]
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01:08:18 ◼ ► Briton but certainly it's worth something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► some slides showing how much faster and lower power there another great update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► to our notebook line had a large macros hardware they can be in the clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► acrylic tube outside and you know they just bought an old Mac Pro in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► say we've got around it you know they should do they stick it on Mac Pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► slap a new sticker on the side here that I think I I think we're gonna I guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4122">TS</a>]
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01:12:26 ◼ ► where they are putting their energy and they weren't for example putting it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► a new file system or make him the USPS to improving the virtual memory system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/4348">TS</a>]
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01:27:28 ◼ ► any shell programming in C Si two TDs but why would have to shell programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► we are doing the show is it bad I presidency this one are still alive but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► is it bad that I'm almost enjoying this part of the show more than the axles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoplTw/5259">TS</a>]