00:00:00 ◼ ► there's a review that keeps happening I think the person like updates it in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/0">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► way or I don't know what they do but they asked the title is something along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► the lines of nine casi casi cy download option one star and i have in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/10">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► you would like one star and it basically says I can't handle Casey and I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/17">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► fast forward every time he talks we already do offer a nine Cassie download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/21">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► option it's the nine Casey download option there that's not coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/26">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► feature already implemented last episode we talked about the time capsule and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/31">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► that is or is not a acceptable way of backing things up in in John's lamented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/38">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► how network-based Time Machine backups are really crummy and the time capsule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/44">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► is a piece of junk and blah blah blah and somebody whose name I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/49">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► rediscover hold on let me fill the state air by mumbling cried out to come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/54">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► to it any clearer fire it was whatevers in the follow-up yeah somebody posted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/59">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► blog post and the title is time capsule back up versus Siracusa so immediately I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/66">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► subsection of that post several weeks / months ago my internal SSD suddenly died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/76">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► completely I hadn't made a clone backup or manually off-loaded the data since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/81">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► the morning I'd been working on them had many irretrievable projects that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► lost except for the time capsule back up from thirty minutes before I went in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/88">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► SSDI SSI and warranty when I got back a week later I booted up the new drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/93">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► with a connected to the time capsule and asked if I wanted to restore from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/97">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► comp time capsule and I said yes and went to bed when I woke up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/101">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► morning my baby was back the beauty of the time capsule is its fire and forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► usability that are in some loyalty and i'm quoting and Casey was right my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/107">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► I've just quit the podcast on in our would drop this Mike if it wasn't so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/114">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► darn expensive and chained to your desk and on a mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/118">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► been around for a long time like that products been around for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/122">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► in the beginning it got a bad reputation because Network Time Machine backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/126">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► were terrible mostly for software reasons so right away out of the gate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/131">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► was like don't buy time capsule because it doesn't work and how much of that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► the time capsules faltan how much of that was the network protocol error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► using Time Machine when I know but I get a bad rap but even after they fix the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/141">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► protocol I've heard from many many many people over the many years the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/146">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► capsules been out and the story is not being good so I'm sure this person had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/150">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► good experience and work finally doesn't work at all i mean they keep selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► them right but in the grand scheme of things and all the feedback I received [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/158">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► over the many many years it's decidedly negative for this product for both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/162">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► hardware and software reasons and it's better now than it was but I would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► not recommend anybody buy one and that was nuclear Zen fire on Twitter like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/170">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► Marco said whose first name is Michael and that's all we know so thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/174">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► Michael for sending that in and for once in my life saying that I was right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/178">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► john was wrong that's very exciting day was wrong about it does so you john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/182">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► Syracuse alright so how do you want to tackle the was only in the fall upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/190">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► sorry I didn't really happen this week newswise it's really a mean bombers not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/193">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► things in there this coming along one so buckle up kids let's start with bomber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/205">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► quick I think I think I don't know you know we we've joked a lot about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/211">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► bomber has been performing pretty badly in a number of ways for four years but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/220">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► in fact as Ben Thompson the guy who writes trajectory show notes he he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/227">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► pretty awesome writer and thinker these days and he he actually spent some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/235">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► Microsoft he's kind of weird how it works and he made a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► counterpoint to this week said basically that Steve Ballmer actually did a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/243">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► good job with what he was kind of hired to do which is take the ship that Bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/248">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► Gates you know kind of built when he was at the head and just keep it going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/254">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► who decides that's when he was hired to do well you know we can argue with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/261">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► but he did a part of his job extremely well which is he kept Microsoft going he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/265">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► made the more profitable he made them get more success in various business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/271">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► roles and and enterprise rules which is a massive part of the business so he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/277">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► a lot of that well but he failed to do was push into any new markets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/282">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► recognize the recognized new markets that he had to push into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/290">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► and almost almost all of his new initiatives that he was that that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/294">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► tried to do over the years that were not related to the business and profits I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/300">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► almost almost everything he turns you on the product side was mostly a failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/304">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► but it's kinda hard to say you know the board let him keep his job all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/310">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► years because he was doing I guess well enough for on the business and profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/315">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► side of things so it's not like you know he wasn't necessarily like a complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/321">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► buffoon all this time I would say the board is more to blame for keeping him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/328">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► in that long when it was obvious that a lot of major product direction changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/334">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► were necessary I can't believe you're defending farmers like the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/339">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► you could like any defensive bomber has to come down to defending short term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/342">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► thing over the long term it's like yeah and long-term screw the company but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/347">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► know he wasn't that bad like really the board's fault for not firing him I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/350">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► the board does share some of this plan but bottom line is you know if we look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/355">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► back and I'm Steve Ballmer's 10 years Microsoft CEO is going to be he was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/359">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► guy in charge of microsoft lost like they were they were the big dog they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/363">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► became not the big dog he oversaw that and during the whole time it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/367">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► he likes I don't like him the total defense like he didn't see some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► things but as you said every every time something was coming it was a threat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► then he tried to counter it with his company and its products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/377">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► turn up he felt like the only good thing that could be attributed to his watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/381">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► the Xbox and even that is not you know that you had to say like milk and a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/385">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► product area they were successful in maybe not totally financially successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/390">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► but there are now a player you know a major player in the market and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/395">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► saying something right but every other initiatives like that just missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► everything like so in the micro level saying well he was good at tuning their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/402">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► current businesses and he kept the money going and he grew the company did all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/406">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► this year but this is a matter like you know what matters is like whether what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/409">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► is your legacy what have you done to you you took control company that was on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/414">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► of the world and you leave a company that's practically irrelevant and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► how you have to measure you know how good a job to do and no it's not not if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/420">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► you're out of your shareholder all you need to measure is are you getting more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► money and look at look at their stock price over his tenure to it is not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► looking for a little while looking to grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/431">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► you know when to come to our stock price and what is it now and that's after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/436">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► Apple getting slaughtered and the stock market so he didn't think he did any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/441">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► good for anybody except the people who knew well enough to sell when you gettin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/444">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► was good the stock rising stacking forever but anyway doesn't like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/449">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► don't think your job as CEO is not to just try to boost the stock price so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/453">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► people can invest in bailout like if you care about the company and surely he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/457">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► does because he was there from the beginning riders you care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► company you want to make sure that your life's work is to build this company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/463">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► leave it you know better than you found it right and i think thats what he cared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/467">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► about and that's what we should care about what we measure someone is a CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► not whether that's like saying we're gonna measure someone's presidency by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/473">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► how many of their friends they got rich with contracts but government contracts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/477">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► during that tenure there is like well yeah you just hold these for the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► company country and Latta recognition a starter boy while he was president he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/482">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► got so many of his friends awesome government contracts all got rich that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/487">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► not how you measure things no it's not how you measure present you mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► president or governor government by is the populations quality of life at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/494">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► as good if not better than it was before that government came to office and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/500">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► similarly well similarly with corporation its are they making money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/505">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► and specifically are they making money for the people who own portions of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/510">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► corporation I mean I agree with you to me was a smart but in the end of the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/513">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► did he or did he not please the shareholders and make the money because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/519">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► arguably that is the only measure that really matters that mattered almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/522">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► matters almost not at all that's that's not what matters certainly not Mr Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/528">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► Ballmer it's not what matters to anyone probably including Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/532">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► shareholders because if if shareholders as shareholders are not just just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/536">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► to die in their money on a big weekend they also care about the long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/539">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► health of the company because you're buying shares like flip them in like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/543">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► days or something you know it's a train in 15 seconds if you buy them you care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/548">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► about the long-term health of the company because you're gonna buy hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► and hopefully they go up and sell later you don't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/556">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► and Steve Ballmer did not make that happen is not making that happen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/561">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► that's why I think this is a terrible measure of like a terrible way to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► at things and it's it's really not i mean just look at the reason the board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► didn't fire me even they didn't look at it that way even the board of directors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/572">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► who think they're surely their care about shareholder value and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► that they kept him around because of personal relationships and thinking he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► was going to nothing as he said most of the right things like he saw the threat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/582">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► he tried to position the company to counter them he fielded products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/586">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► are competitive with them as they all flopped right so it's not like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/590">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► totally oblivious he just he just didn't execute and it just you know he was slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/594">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► he was wrong and he was just you know everything he did have problems but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/597">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► think it's time to go I'm glad he's gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► somebody could have no mercy yes but people could have been a lot better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/607">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► his worst problem you can look at his various feelings mean one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/612">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► obviously you know not getting very well into most new markets especially in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/618">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► consumer space one of them was just that he was so embarrassing in public so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/623">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► often I mean that I can really he really made himself and the company look stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/627">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► on a very frequent basis and I think though you know you can look at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/632">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► Microsoft has done and not done in the last roughly twelve years thirteen or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/638">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► fourteen years you know since since around 2002 now and it's very obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/643">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► that Microsoft's greatest enemy has been itself not anybody else not Apple not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/648">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► Google its its greatest enemy has been itself and Microsoft is always even from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/655">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► before bomber been infamous for infighting and having the having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/661">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► divisions special office versus windows you have is these ridiculous you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/666">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► fighting groups that would really hurt the products that came out and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/671">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► company but it seems like with bomber that al-qaida even worse like he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/675">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► famously had the stack ranking system for the entire company all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/678">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► performance reports in its like that that predates predicts embassy does it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/682">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► around for a long time ok it's it's possible that terrible for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/689">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► in my right but you know it seems like bombers greatest failure over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/693">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► has really been like not fixing or making that worse or even making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/698">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► worse you know Microsoft could do a lot of things they have a lot of smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/705">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► people there they have a lot of resources I mean they they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/709">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► ridiculous R&D budget they have ridiculous staff they had a lot of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/712">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► stuff happens within Microsoft but so little of it ends up making it into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/717">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► products because it's just it's just slaughtered by the process and the and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/721">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► the bureaucracy and the people on the strategy tax and the complexity maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/726">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► this giant reorganization he was trying to do work she must Microsoft watchers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/732">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► think is a pretty bad idea and it's probably would actually finally got him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► fired maybe this is actually his attempt to fix that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► aspirational sidebar wishes this is the company that Microsoft was but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/743">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► and you know whatever it has like that's a great vision but explain to me how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/747">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► can get from where you walk to there because that's a big gap and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► get there you know Microsoft kind of Delegates Xerox PARC panic selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/755">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► copiers and they have less money and they made this research center in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► dream lots of interesting research and they make nothing out of you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/764">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► took the idea did not become the power and the personal computing world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/767">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► could have been a Microsoft had all this money from the PC business and they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/772">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► into R&D in like they're out there with the you know Microsoft menu for Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► computing and how they were doing tablets way before anyone thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► entry and tablets and smartphones you know there are no windows on phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/783">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► there they were doing all these things like it was all there for the taking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/787">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► they just they just didn't the next Xerox like they were fielding $10,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/790">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► Alto computers announced by but it was closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► you know like they kept making tablets and Windows type convertible tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/798">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► things and smartphones and just all of them are not good enough and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/803">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► were there first and they have the R&D and they had the tech amid lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/807">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► interesting things but they could not get a good product out of it that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/810">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► failure of the company's other companies came along and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► and their lunch but they were you know they snatch defeat from the jaws of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/816">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► victory that all the money in the world they aren't in the world all the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► tech there were looking in the right places like sometimes a look at our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► interactive TV with their own place to look and MSNBC was shot outside shimon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/826">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► we have too much money I guess but they were looking in the right places mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/830">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► 10 tablet computing the just didn't get there and I thought from the show gang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/835">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► was his post about bomber straitjacket was really interesting and and you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/841">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► guys kind of alluded to this earlier in that ok so now bomber has said we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/845">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► going to go all Apple and reorg the company and a moment's gone so now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/851">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► somebody else is gonna have to come in and either say oh just kidding or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/856">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► they're gonna have to roll with this decision the bomber made and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/863">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► tough spot to an argument being the CEO of a company that big even when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/867">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► doing all this stuff when they're doing not so well as worse and doing it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/870">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► you're using somebody else's playbook that you may not be buying into sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► worst of all new CEO has to play but that's the thing about being you CEO yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/878">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► embarrassingly into the about-face but not that bad because a new guy comes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/884">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► like that's the new guy comes in that people expect him to like well now he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/888">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► really done to clean house or whatever and so your first move being reversing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/892">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► all your predecessors move happens all the time like that's that's part of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/897">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► the power moves like asserting yourself so I don't think it's as big of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/900">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► straight jacket is that post implied it into the problem was getting at is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/904">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► like let's assume that this shape the bomber wants to make Microsoft is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/908">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► better shape than it is now and I think most of us agree that the shape it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/913">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► now is terrible and the new ship looks like Apple and Apple seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/916">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► successful in doing the things that microsoft says it wants to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► devices and services company or whatever it was like yeah okay that's good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/923">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► you know how do you get there from here and it's it's not so much the year tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/928">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► into bombers plan is that if you also agree that Microsoft should be that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/931">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► of company and it should eventually look like this now it's time you to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► out how to get it to some layout the goal like we should be more like a plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► about here but reading too much into it as I i don't i don't know why you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/943">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► kicked out was was was the reorganization his idea and he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► kicked out with the realization the board's idea he just got to announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/952">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► before he got kicked out like this so many things we don't know about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/955">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► details here but once a new guy comes in all bets are off to do anything he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/958">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► to get like that HBU what's-his-name certain aap yeah but he came into HP and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/963">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► likes it was like we're not gonna make personal computers anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/970">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► over to his house old Palmer him in like 15 rapid-fire drastic decisions and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/974">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► got booted out and then like half of them got reversed and you're not looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/979">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► for that kind of disaster here I think it's just like one thing and do the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/983">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► guys going to say yes I agree with that vision for gonna try to get there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/986">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► that poor sucker is you know gonna have to do the hard work but it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/990">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► straight jacket if he comes in and says no but changed my mind gonna become like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► IBM and be consulting company then he'll do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/996">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► p.m. the other series of interesting thoughts I saw about this was another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► friend of the show Craig Hockenberry tweeted about how I'm gonna put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► what he said which was although brief very eloquent but he said you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► Microsoft needs now is a lugar's and as the child of a nearly lifelong IBM er i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1014">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► can tell you that IBM was in a really rough spot for a fair bit of time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► then came in and basically said you know we're gonna shake everything up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► we're really gonna cut the fat and you're just going to deal with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► because I have to save the company and now iBM is not the biggest company in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► the world but certainly one of the biggest company in companies in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► world it's doing by most measures very very well and so now we're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► wondering okay well that's nice we know we need some of the looks and smells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► like her sister but how do you find that person who don't you think he saved IBM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► we all know that the Deville the village had to be destroyed to save it like IBM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► the corporate entity to making it into a profitable business again but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► destroyed the old IBM to do that like the old IBM was gone this is the new IBM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► because he decided to the old IBM had no place in the world I get a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► were lost but that like lots of you know IBM creator of the personal computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► you know like that that's not the IBM had said that they are more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► services company and that's that's how he was able to make them successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► that's not what I'm used to be so in some ways IBM was reincarnated under his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► leadership which I'm sure Microsoft lawyers have fun going Microsoft is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► lifeless corpse and owners interested it right but I don't think people if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► looking for Microsoft to return to its former glory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► you don't want someone like that coming in transforming the company into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► something you don't recognize anymore even if the new thing is successful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► that's fair I think that's very fair it's I just thought it was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► interesting point parallel and I think you're both right I think that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► could stand to have a gersner but maybe that's not what they really want right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► now maybe they don't want to get their brand trademark nice well I like Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► said you know they want to forestall they want like we we want to look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► Apple we gonna be like Apple want to be like a cross between Apple and Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► have like Google's online services like the Windows Azure stop or never because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► it still has good technique good products but just a shame when any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► company tech companies you know going down the tubes like there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► always good stuff in it right so there are good things things are recommending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► Windows Phone is like you know it's not actually a bad product at all right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► just that an Xbox again you know a product that is something that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► something right so you're looking for someone to say take all these things get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► rid of the bad things but keep us as a company the kind of company that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► the Xbox the kind of company that makes Windows Azure the kind of countries make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► Windows Phone like we can do all these things were smart and capable people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► just make all those things successful now please and so if you want someone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► do that and you're looking for someone with experience making kind of like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► make devices by the software that runs mobile software and services like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► could do worse than a four star like figure someone who has experience in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► another company that is successful doing exactly the thing that you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► here's a weird idea what if Microsoft completely as at the consumer space so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► the way to say look could be Xbox would be spots into its own company which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► a big problem for Microsoft is making it profitable that would be spun off or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► sold but probably spun off the rest of Microsoft would become a lot like IBM in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► that it would be focused on business computing and consulting and enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► their consumer stuff is where all the losses appear to be happening in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► market share and relevance and and probably in profits pretty soon you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► the problem I forget who tweeted as I'm sorry somebody if all of which we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► the problem Microsoft has is that nobody's paying for software anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► the direction while cooperation corporations are well yes they are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► look at you know Windows and Office as Microsoft's too big cash cows look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► how to think about how that might be collapsing in the near future events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► happening we see it happen but it certainly seems like the best days are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► behind it and so what if what if Microsoft's future really is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► completely exiting consumer stuff and and only being enterprise focused you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► know high-end office needs all that you know basically if your office would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► an Exchange server or would use SharePoint and that's the kind of that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► the kind of customer Microsoft wants to keep those are not there good products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► thanks share for his terrible just terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► those are not like my great grand you those things approach to make money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► no one else wants to be in the business maybe like you know ASAP or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► those are not the best products right there probably the most successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► competitor if they have the most upside probably because that's what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► looking for is like water upside like to be think enterprise software looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► this craft has a bright future and that you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► you know grow the company by selling more than four money like the trend is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► in the other direction getting rid of that stuff using simpler things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► switching to Google you know integrating with non Microsoft products like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► they're squeezing every ounce of money out of that ass like that last bastion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► and they've defended it well and bomber has you know your goose that try to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► it produces much money as possible and they have some good things on the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► services-based the kind of transition to but if anyone is looking like the crown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► jewels of Microsoft I mean I don't know if they were picked that enterprises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► types offer in any way like you could make it actually I would really consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► you have no idea how much as SharePoint licenses and how many I mean for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► last 45 years my life I have more often than not been working on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► SharePoint which is why I'm bitter and jaded but it's it's popular to extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► popular and as you know exchanges I mean those are not cheap platforms and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► you get an Exchange server or a SharePoint Server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► gonna be doing that on Windows Server 2008 you're going to be using sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► server and it did it spreads quick and it's profitable it's gotta be but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► don't think this is a bright future in sign that kind of software to businesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► well no one uses it because it's good you know this because it's good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► desired enter into the center price offers on about what's good there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► these other factors involved and Microsoft is pretty good at those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► factors and there's no sign that's going to go away they're already in there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► there are you getting disrupted at the low end used to be everybody had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► exchanged but now you probably don't have exchanged if you are a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► company you get away with having like a glue or something like that or use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► Google or something like and you know what about sharing like we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► SharePoint all these things but in our office we use Google Hangouts we use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► Dropbox share things because the enterprise software so terrible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► we're pretty big company I need to be still pay for all the medical stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► like it's being even from all sides like the super duper high and Microsoft plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► there anymore and that's kind of like verified territory anyway but a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► custom systems for that and then at the low end microsoft office costly many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► miles is a little web services and even in companies that pay for these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► to people who are in the companies are choosing to use something else it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► the way I phones made it into the enterprise nobody wanted them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► had a strangle hold on to their great serving US customers but people didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► want to use them they wanted to use iPhones and that's that's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► with the enterprise business that it's it's surrounded on all sides by other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► things I wanted to launch of people don't want to use your product like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► that's what's that ages ago about what defines enterprise software you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► enterprise entanglements and we want to get involved enterprise business and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► enterprise software by definition is when the person buying your product is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► underpriced offer that caused that totally defines the entire shape of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► product because they're saying how do I how I'm going to get these guys to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► for my software and making this offer better is not how you get there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► they're not going to be the ones to use it on campus but all i care is does is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► make my life easier than I T manager and so your product necessarily become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► shaped into this thing that I T Madras love and who cares if anyone else likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► it because they have no choice right and that is evolutionary dead end for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► software as far as i'm concern so let me take a quick break right now and i wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► talk about another angle of this Microsoft discussion but because we're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► half hour and limit a quick break and thank our first sponsor it is word box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► warbucks a simple yet powerful text editor for iOS and this is pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► we've had a long history with with arranging the spot because they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► initially wanted to release this term the dev centered outage that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► scheduled so we had to bump them and they were the nicest guys in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► dealing with them and and and moving around so I want to thank them for first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► of all their flexibility how nice they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► chance to see this app and I gotta say a word boxes beautiful it is an absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► beautiful appt go to Word docs appt dot com to see them talking about so it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► it's a it's a text editor it has auto saving a magical scroll button you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► move the cursor ever you want really easily it supports multi markdown it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► supports test test text expander touch excuse me it is all cloud-based use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► Dropbox it's really it it has so many features I can't believe this came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► of nowhere folder support it has dropped there sharing Dropbox backgrounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► import export to HTML or PDF from mark down there there are so many smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► apps that I think this could very easily replace word count emailing it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► it's really fantastic and what I like most about it is the UI design I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► this this not only fits right at home on iOS 7 I think but it's it's just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► beautiful and you can get it right now for iOS 62 it's it's really a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► clean modern design there's there's no luck quotes cure morphism around it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► it's a very clean modern and remember like the day before everybody sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► keynote or even that morning I think it was there is a company called for esky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► that everyone thought had blown have blown a missive about iOS 7 supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► third-party keyboards because he had made their own keyboard well weird box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► supports Levski built in I believe it's their launch partner I believe it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► first after has pledged his support so you can use the school warbucks have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► try out the new keyboard and see you know so see finally like an alternative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► keyboard and iOS and and what that means an end and what that could bring us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► and how good it is so really cool app code word box gonna word box at dot com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► or simply search the App Store forward box it still it's they want the cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► light blue icon with tw in the circle in the middle of it but it's easier to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► on the screenshots and video it's really cool thanks a lot to word box.com sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► word box.com for sponsoring the show and once again check out where box thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► Gary from now and it fits right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► I mean it really does look good so if you're markdown person should check it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► out I'm really impressed by the design of this rainy night I know I said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► before and I'll say it again it's why I love they they have this awesome see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► screenshots that is awesome black slide up Action menu we're like it like crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► the whole screen all the buttons are the big circles kinda like the idea of seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► dialer phone dialer really really cool and i was very impressive design the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► prevalence of applications that do something other than the OS to falter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► defaults are inadequate I keep hoping for the release will they really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► every time I have to do anything involving the cursor and a standard I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► was tax bills every month every third party app that implement their own thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► we just kind of good with this kind of like a lab trying all sorts of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► techniques in terms of swiping and tapping and like my big complaint is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► wait how long do I like press and hold it such an important part of interacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► with tax and selection is an Iowa man by the fault but I don't like waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► anymore and whose it was it the UK see someone recently just installed iOS I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► know you did as well casey and then was complaining about the market planning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► how long the animations take it wasn't recently installed it but I complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► yeah like I still have my last time you used was W ABC right so but when i doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► so I fully expect to agree with everything you said your gonna hit and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► cant do it defaults write her how to get rid of the animations like account yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► another reason you said you make another point yeah one more idea here to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► how do you think you know rather do you think there is a way that Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► could regain growth and and a foothold at all and especially could they grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► market share again in the world of mobile smartphones and tablets like do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► you see a way that that could happen honestly I kind of don't I totally do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► but like the company things have to get worse before they get better buckle up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► like there in half to lose a lot of weight a lot of money a lot of person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► out of projects lot of products like but you know it's like when jobs came back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► he can like everything basically into the whole company is considering the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► iMac right and then the next generation OS project and its gonna take like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► tries for us to get right everything else is new and unopened icon you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► everything just like I doubt anyone is going to come to do that but they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► because if you want pick your product if you want the Xbox Live CD view on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► Windows Phone to succeed whatever it is that you want to be your thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► applied in the future and I would say like Windows Phone tablets and Xbox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► any television related things like that that set of consumer products probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► as much brighter future than their other consumer products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► those can be made it like their clothes like you know Windows 8 is terrible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► policy reasons not so much tech reasons and as you said in past shows they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► the first ones to the new athletic so they have like the right people in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► of design their thing there's just that you know all the other crap they do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► all the stupid entanglement have to have a desktop mode on the surface and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► know like they're just they're their own worse enemy and I i think they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► turn this company around and pick a few of those great products and make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► successful the cost will be almost everything else they do but I don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► know that work for Apple but there there's a very different that was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► different scenario that was first of all Apple is way worse shape then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► microsoft has announced its easier to do crazy things when you're about to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► bankrupt in exactly 14 not at all Microsoft is actually doing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► financially they're doing all right there they're doing pretty well I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► that has to get worse before it gets better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► right but see that's why don't I don't see that strategy working for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► the reasons like I wrote this piece forever ago about microsoft apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► respective customer cultures this is back when Windows it hadn't come out yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► but I think it was being shown off and i was i was speculating at the time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► Microsoft customers generally don't like being told what to do and so they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► probably resist Windows 8 if the new interface was mandatory and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► couldn't just turn it off and just always a desktop again and that turn out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► to be correct that I guess I did release it that way people did hit it and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► with that whatever code named Blue Mountain whatever it is this father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► going to reverse that you know i i think Microsoft the reason why people buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► microsoft products is because the products let the people do whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► want their computers and they don't really get there early her kill anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► they hardly ever restrict anything it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► not open in the sense of stahlman but it's open in the sense of capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► and settings and stuff like that what people do what they want but if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► like reading a toddler never telling them no bullshit so that's what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► doing with their business and like it's it's terrible I get back on that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► have a good to have someone about what you know what's wrong with Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► their biggest problem is that when they had all the power in the world they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► didn't use it to subjugate the masses like we are on top of the world windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► ninety-five has a letter introducing into the greatest thing in the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► world everybody loves Microsoft we do everything that was the time to put you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► know so I guess what our new things not even have a desktop it's all gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► like whenever they're crazy idea was because in that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► you know you like oh my god I don't think you're right they would all go I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► don't like this on my desktop back but if you didn't give them the option that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► Microsoft could i SAT there was armed soldiers and say what you gonna do go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► Linux on the desktop buy a Mac Mini is ridiculous options they have the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► to turn their whole user base as sort of Apple did because the Apple faithful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► were like you know we love Apple they're about to go back up to buy anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► make to your computer I guess like operating system and steam unusually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► slow and has crazy bunch of its kind of cool at like you know they had a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► small tiny amount of power and the truth is something larger but Microsoft was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► top of the world and they could have they should have taken that opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► to turn the ship now they're like weekend an injured like Windows 8 we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► have some ideas for new interface but please don't hurt us and that's it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► know I think they have more power than they thought he did I think when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► would have been more successful they had really commit the company to it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► you're right at this point like people do have other options and maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► don't have enough power to you know to say everything all windows it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► this and then I T would have been like that everybody at startup plans to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► convert to Apple doesn't want their business they can't use Linux so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► they're big mistake is catering to their customers to the Rio and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► really is desired by their customers not to have things changed because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► that's what leadership is it's telling people know this is the way things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► going to be in the future no you can't have the old way back you can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► all the time but the certain turning points it's time to do that if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► do that ever you would just be left with your cranky customers who will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► really be satisfied and you were doing dealing base and we are counting on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► situation to her people selling mainframes or whatever regis keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► selling mainframes they keep making demands knows mainframe people want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► mainframe features and eventually real you selling 23 people and the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► and the entire US industries moved on and your three customers are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► crying about something alright but the problem is when Microsoft caters to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► large degree to enterprise enterprise is always a big slow-moving Kennedy and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► you're answering to the enterprise they're never gonna want new they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► gonna want new only when they have to have it because that means I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► spend money from their tight budgets to buy new and so as long as they have they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► they're concerned at all with what the enterprise things I don't think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► much that can be done in a kind of comes back to our conversation earlier so how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► do you make Microsoft better I almost wonder if it is you got I think maybe if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► you just spin off the consumer business however you define that and say you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► do your thing and don't give a crap about the enterprise do what you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► is right and in the enterprise folks can do that the boring stuff that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► ITV you guys need and they don't need to be as much as mobile in the sense of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► July guess I should say and they can they can continue to do the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► over and over until they eventually weather-related I but say it's a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► tell the enterprise people tough luck you're getting what we give you and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► say alright no screen Microsoft you didn't listen to us you're not giving us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► what we want what they do after that all rights line megadoses fine with all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► business what are you guys gonna be instead and then they're gonna be like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► guess well liked by Google services like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► wherever they run to their their kind of a poison pill say Microsoft pulls out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► enterprises beer caning we're stopping Siebel Server were stopping you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► exchange gonna keep on Windows Azure that's like forward-looking network type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► the same thing you can't have anymore canceling all those products but but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► wait now 55 go to go to someone else for the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► whoever gets all that business is now tied down by that crap in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► customers so Google about those businesses it would you know unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► really really strong less google also help blind anyone who these enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► customers went to would be dragged down by them it's like he's dragging you down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► to the pit of irrelevance right we need to see this roadmap going forward he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► can't change things now we're big important customer how many millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► dollars to be giving every year and it takes a strong company to be able to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► Microsoft can do it and if whoever they go to like I don't know who they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► go to the go-to are you know have fun with them ASAP or sum up some new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► company would rise up to take their money you do not want those customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► those customers are not good for a successful business and if you lose them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► or intentionally piss them off and abandon them they're gonna have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► somewhere and chances are good they're gonna go to your competitors and screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► them and then you'll be free to say like Apple you know me like Apple got out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► the business for the most part except maybe a little of education and it let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► them go forward and do what they want without worrying about how they mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► with the united enterprise did a little bit like oh ok will change your iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► to work a little better with the enterprise but they are not focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► that customer they don't do and enterprise wants anyone tonight he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► to deal with Apple they do not do it with a large company wants them to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► and I think Apple is freer and more successful for it you know it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► right but also consider what if Microsoft holding Apple card in they try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► to get these words out in a way that makes sense if microsoft said screw you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► enterprise and then what if a different Microsoft product the new version sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► server the new version of Exchange that breaks all the old exchange but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► better in every way what if that's what's the new thing is so they self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► cannibalize is that so terrible is that what it will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► that's not terrible but like you have to you have to go into with a new attitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► right you have to go into it was like the additive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► they were breaking everything I know you don't like it and we hope you like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► new products but be going forward yet know the rules have changed you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► get to dictate what we want we are not going to hold backward compatibility for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► ever and ever and ever to make you feel better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► like you have to take more power in that relationship which is different they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► haven't been able to do it and that's why I think it's so much poison to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► these is your customers because they do pay you tons and tons of money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► jeez these customers are paying us tons of money we have to pay attention about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► what otherwise would like us to institutional business do you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► customer's always right do with the customer wants and you end up making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► products beholden to these customers who you know these buyers who are not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► actually use your products and it starts taking that same shape again so you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► to it's very difficult to serve those businesses while still trying to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► product that's good that that the people who are buying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► you know the actual users who are not actually buying it like I don't know of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► any companies ever been successful doing that Apple solution was just like final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► exit a business that's the solution if someone's out if this I'm company out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► there serving enterprising government while also making awesome products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► the users like feel free to write us tell us about it as a Lotus Notes I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► everything you just said I think supports the theory of that Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► should probably split itself into consumer and enterprise a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► companies are set for majorly separate divisions to the point where they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► have totally separate product lines because you know it's think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► they're trying to show of corporate windows on the desktop at home and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► laptops on consumer stuff has always kind of had problems you know back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► you know Windows 2000 and T five when when that was supposed to be the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► unifying release and it was so hard to tell you that they had to push off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► beginner finally still in his XP and Windows meet him out you know it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► was clear back then there was very very hard to match these two worlds together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► of consumer and and enterprise at four on a technical level and then I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► now we're seeing a lot of them the problem the product level where and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► on the on the company level we're seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► Microsoft is not doing a very good job of balancing these two things especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► when it comes to their consumer device side you see like the surface versus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► surface Pro is to separate products office having its own giant pile of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► politics and conflict and issues in that world you see Microsoft not being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► to politically and strategically release office for iOS or Android you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► see these these pretty big problems that are really hurting Microsoft big-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► imagine this imagine Microsoft spins out a new consumer company they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2515">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► responsible for Xbox whatever Zune still has left basically they're responsible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► for Xbox plus tablets and phones Scott Forstall CEO of that company then their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► regular everything else the entire enterprise and service out of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► business all the server software windows for PCs office all of that is a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► separate company that you know has somebody like bomber but good at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► head of that why isn't why is that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► why why is that worse than what they have now likewise the consumer side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► making any money there's no money to be made on I don't think that's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► I got a technical problem is that like all those things you just described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► share some upcoming technology that would be very difficult like legally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► speaking he did you that up a diversion whatever you like it when i picture out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2575">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► of my mind when i picture is a rocket ship going up into space and stage 1 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► the enterprise business and it it's expands its fuel separate and tumbles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► back into the atmosphere and stage two and three is like the consumer products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► and I was like who is going to volunteer to be on the stage one that fire stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► and then runs out of fuel then tumbled into the ocean enterprise business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► they're the biggest rocket right behind the most you'll have the most power but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► inevitably they're gonna run the ocean like I would not if I was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► and they were giving up the company along those lines I would wonder how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► many people would raise their hands to be on their part or to invest in another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► part of whatever like it's like this is the future business and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► current / dying business and you know that's that's a tough sell to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► current one is the one that pays dividends and makes reliable money every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► year and and the consumer as the shrink when I think those two things can exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► within the same company just has to be changed and I think existing within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► same company gives you the biggest benefit but that's like using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► booster rocket and not and not like this analogy is failing now but I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► jettisoning it like keeping it with you live you phone but you're gonna like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► it's kind of like what Apple did with like the Mac Mac we have to get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► thing back on track we have to make one to steal so people will buy it while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► we're doing that let's work on the next stuff and we're gonna try a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► of things in the one of them stuck with the iPod it's like kodak is this more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► breathing room or can we gotta work on the next thing right so it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► Mac was like the office like cash cow but like it was the only thing they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► a job one was make sure I keep making money and Microsoft are you got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► covered right that can power your company while you work on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► things and when you work on things and the other two successful like the MCA's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► faded away and slide dwindled it's been growing long everything else is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► growing such a smaller rate than everything else that looks like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► unimportant but it's their right so you can use that enterprise business as your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► platform that will keep you safe in the black long enough for you to work on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► next big thing and if you hit the next big thing that part that's been helped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► helping you stay safe in the black back of a successful business too and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► still growing and also improving so I think probably keeping the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► together but just you know organizing it running it differently is probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► better strategy than splitting up splitting up I don't see good things for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► the enterprise company and I see also some crazy issues in terms of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► entanglement get worse when you have to have something like cross-licensing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► agreement or you know coordinated development to maintain compatibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► between enterprise windows in consumer windows and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► you know think it is is that I feel like we've been beaten up Microsoft a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► today and I think it's easy to kick somebody when they're down but I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► speak for all of us win in saying that I'm actually very hopeful for Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► and I was thinking about it you guys made the point earlier that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► Microsoft is really early on tablets they were really early on smartphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► well maybe they weren't that smart but they were certainly more than just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► feature phones and so during those days it was like they had they had good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► timing and they had decent vision but never really executed you know they saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► the smart phones were thing and they saw it arguably before a lot of other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► did but I never really did it well now with say Windows Phone 8 they had pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► good vision and pretty good execution but the timing was terrible in so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► wonder if for whatever the next big thing is the next mobile maybe its TV as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► everyone's been saying but I doubt it but whatever the next thing is maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► they won't get all three of those timing vision and execution right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► maybe that will really turn around and you could argue that maybe as jurors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► that thing I'm not saying that is but there you could pose the argument that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► maybe others that thing and I'm really hopeful that maybe one of these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► I'll get all three right at the same time because it would be better for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► of us even diehard Apple users when Microsoft is competitive in good well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2814">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► going back a second to the question asked after the last break and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► almost time for the next one but you know my question here let's let's ignore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► the question of whether the company got split up or not because that obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► is a rat hole in it for the purpose of this doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► imagine what would an ideal Microsoft product launch look like today in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► the phone and tablet area in the general mobile devices area which is where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► growth is in which is what slowly eating PCs actually not even that slowly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► know where's Microsoft's place in this market I'm kinda thinking they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► have one because here's the thing let's say they release of real windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► Windows Phone seven and 8 and Windows II were both pretty good near neither of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► them were great but they were both pretty good especially for you know 440 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► Microsoft release in the last decade they were they were really good you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► you can look at basically the last few things Microsoft did on the other major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► platforms Windows 7 was very well received [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► Windows Phone 7 Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 those were all very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► well-received critically but in the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► 2007 I think that well but but the rest of it especially the mobile area has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► really done pretty terribly what could they do it if they really something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► was really really great let's let's let's say windows 8 on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► surface you know let's say that was a really great lunch let's say they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► got the surface down to 300 bucks at launch and it was price competitive is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► when it's when it launched it wasn't but let's say it let's say they got there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► what could they release that would give them substantial growth and market share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► in this market I don't think I don't think there is anything they could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► because Apple has the premium and locked up tight google has everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► locked up tight I don't really see room for a third party here doing similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► kinds of things and and maybe do some totally different than what is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► tried a little bit with Windows 8 and and some of the surface PC crossover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► stuff but that didn't work that well either case it was right that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► was the timing issues like if you even get the execution of the timing or both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► and this was a timing issue they released adequate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► products with some interesting things about them that I recommend them but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► timing was was awful that they're kind of in the sense that people used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► in I'll be used to routinely launch better products but nobody cared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► everybody uses Windows cause I can't read my applications on it cuz you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► right the software uses like there you know it doesn't matter how high does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► matter how good Apple makes up the matter how can anything Apple releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► announcing the care but that's not entirely is just it's just the bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► really hot so who would have thought the solution was to release a TI McIntosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► that will do it like now you know that generated exactly why did generate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► excitement because it was a different color and it looked different like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► fashion you know like they they started you know that they took a different tact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► and got them attention did it did that turn the whole company run no but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► give them little more breathing room right and then the next thing i pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► which ever one tion but that turned out to be a great I did like you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► it's possible just justice really really hard and if you're really late like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► if Apple AAPL can't be the seventh company to release a translucent colored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► computer now good as they had to be the one to make the big splash so Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► was not the first one to visit Apple they were kind of the person with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► windows 8 type of luck but it wasn't it wasn't enough and it was diluted in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► water down but there are you know plenty of areas where Microsoft could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► successful with a new product they just have to reset and I would say even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► Xbox established category could have been a runaway hit if everything had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► gone their way right so say they released a Sony screwed up and do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► they do with the continued to visit is growing up so he screws up and Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► comes out and they do everything right with the new Xbox watching everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► loves them and then they're taking market share from almost everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► they become the on uncontested undisputed platform for triple-a games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► because it does not in the competition for that market is like Nintendo Sony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► and PC space for just you know kind of sort of Microsoft / steam / whatever he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► and stuff like that that is a big market that market makes a lot of money and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► Microsoft could have come out and dominated it that would be a big win for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► them because they're already in the market there are and and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► generational turnover lots of things that happen if they had executed an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► amazingly well if they got lucky in and their competitors didn't execute as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► that would be a big win and all of a sudden you see that you know making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► lot of money for them they could to me like we we we bucks from the lodging and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► that's not how it turned out they ended up doing a whole bunch of things wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► and one of their competitors Tony did not do a lot of things wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► and you know it's it's like it looks like it's going to be a horse race again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► but I don't I don't count them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► assisted it's gonna be really hard and you can't look at what your competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► have already done and try to do it better because you never know what one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► better part you need to do to make it happen like if you look at Apple's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► do they have to do how awesome is the computer that had to reset computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► that's faster than ever been so they had to release one that is more reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► these warrants a different color what would I say a different color when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► like that turned out to be the thing a different color was the thing that got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► the attention and you know turn things around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► obviously I'm making light of it it's much more do you think it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► simple and I like it no one would have predicted that if you had to ask like ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► we're getting killed eerily similar products Microsoft what do we have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► to make people notice US and EU brainstormed it the guy who is coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► with the idea for like everyone like that's not gonna do it because in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► abstract it seems stupid you have to see the concrete iMac to understand what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► is about it you know like it that's that's a difference in vision and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► to be executed well but just the idea of like we're gonna make it appear that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► designed differently physically speaking that doesn't sound like a winning idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► but the execution matters so if you said we're going to make a tablet that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► doubles as a PC I don't even know that the winning idea but certainly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► execution was one arm version and then I can in television with a fan and it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► that you can put the desktop on both of them because they're afraid to go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► you know like the execution was not wearing an undershirt that idea was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► winning but I don't rule out the concept of them feeling a product that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► becomes very popular and makes people to sit up and take notice and with that our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► second sponsor this week is another new iOS app I love I love this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3226">TS</a>]
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00:53:56 ◼ ► it's like photograph but for notes have noted graph and OTO GRA pH and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► pretty cool app it's you know what we talked last episode or two episodes ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► and photostream and stuff like that this is not a graph is a place to keep photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► that you're taking more frightened note-taking purpose and they can be kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► outside of your camera roll so they aren't clogging up your camera roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► because you know you're not really taking like you know a photo of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► label of a wine that you like you don't really need it to be like in your family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► vacation photos like your that's not the purpose that you're taking it for and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► use my camera on my phone all time for this purpose for the purpose of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► reminding me of something that I want to come back to later you know if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► for me it's often a simple as like a picture of where I parked in the parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► garage and I'll take a picture of the nearest signed the letter and number on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► something like that or it can be longer like oh here's you know here's a pure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► light years apart I want to look at here so I saw a store but I want to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► more about it reid Amazon reviews whatever the case may be so no to graph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► isn't at made for this purpose its first of all designed primarily for quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► captures cause obviously when you're in these situations you don't have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► filling slots a navigation so you launch it it's quick captured its it opens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► always ready to take a picture it has all sorts of sharing options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► iCloud syncing with Dropbox Evernote you can email you can message all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► you can take this into account if you want to but you don't have to his whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► organizational system you can create folders and manage all these things one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► of the coolest things about this i think is the UI it's a really opinionated UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► and I like that about it it's it was designed by Iowa seven in mind but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► you take a look at the site it's it's not a graph and OTO GRA pH dotnet / ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► got an autographed net / ATP take a look at that they are you I it's very text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► heavy and it uses this awesome tungsten by Sarah Jones it's so it's a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► professional and it is a very text heavy I S seven principal styled app but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► doesn't look like every other I was about to enter an era where every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► outlooks you know white with Helvetica Neue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► and is you know all this looks different takes a lot of the lessons learned from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► iOS 7 but it has its own style and his cool UI mechanic we're like you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► see the photos in a list of thumb now they have this thing where the list is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► big rectangular sell to a table so then I was usually are and they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► school you are you guys dragged a just a horizontal box up and down the photo to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► pick what part of it you want to be that little skinnier tangle them now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► really cool very cool UI very cool idea and they even have a pretty cool they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► even have a video made by our friend jonathan mann the guy who who made our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► theme song if you go to their website and autographed net / ATT you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► this awesome music video that Johnson man-made for its really cool so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► this is worth checking out I think you should definitely get it right now to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► support them in our show so thanks a lot to know to graph for sponsoring our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3431">TS</a>]
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00:57:22 ◼ ► very much I'm glad you brought up the thumbnail thing because that was why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► agree with everything you said I think the thumbnail thing was the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► interesting bit of the UI that I saw it was a really clever way to make a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► that didn't feel like every other lists that you've ever seen an ILS and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► it is a pretty sight caps you should definitely check it out all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► applications that use like a case they want to show your content as the atom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► like they don't have an item that just looks like a listbox like a thumbnail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► like they want you know for starting pitcher something they want the pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► to be the item I got my photos like this on the Mac way when you have an events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► it picks one of the photos from the events to be that the thing on the photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► to a key feature for any applications does that is there has to be a way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► you to say you know what you picked the wrong picture iPhoto for that event I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► would like to use a different are you know what no to graft actually I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► have crop that differently so I could see like the name of the wine label [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► that's that I took a picture or whatever and that's the key feature it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► what what's the difference that's like a power user future revenues that but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► managed to take so much of a difference and you can move a little rectangle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► pick which are you wanna cropped or about the way people don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► in what is it a night or spacebar lets you see the pictures and in an event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► ascribing to hit the spacebar to pick the one you want the event that is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► of my favorite iPhoto features that actually added in recent years one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► the few facts or something like that is that everyone should do that is not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► is that the best Syracuse Ian future pic that I can possibly think of but we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► what I believe might be the perfect Syracuse Ian topic coming up next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► so what happened intended today how much I think a lot of people making fun of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► this product on the Nintendo 3ds which is not a type of its not a joke like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► name we seems like a big joke to begin with but now the real real name and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► in some ways it's kind of clever but the 3ds is their handheld gaming system with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► a 3d glasses kind of stereoscopic the screen on the top and a touch screen on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► the bottom which is crazy in a strange intend to kind of way but actually after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► a fairly disastrous start has started selling well in this last price and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► now they're making a version of their flagship product and deflection feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► the flagship product right there in the name 3ds was that it's like an intense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► vs but its 3d right so now they made a version of it without the 3d real quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► the 3ds that folds in half dozen not does it as a hinge just like the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3593">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► is the DNS and there's like seven variants of this thing they're out on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► intended was not shy about making different variations big ones small ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► one of the extra cameras you know once as big as your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► yeah and that it's actually not a terrible idea because like the big ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► basically for adult sized hands and not that I play games that I did I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► appreciate the fact that the 22 yes is getting rid of the 3d and 3d has kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► been one of those things where it always amazes me that they ever ship the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► product because it's interesting tak 3d without glasses is a good idea it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► stupid classes it does work as advertised but you do have to keep your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► head in a certain position otherwise the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► you get the wrong image in the wrong eyes and it doesn't quite work right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► they shipped with little slider lets you turn down the 3d effect and put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► slaughter all way down and turns it off so they probably have some kind of stats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► and see things are interconnected by how many people using 3ds is that we've sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► had a slider all the way down all the time and probably determined that 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3654">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► feature is not as popular as we thought it was going to be it apparently wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► a big differentiator for people that's not the reason people are buying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► they're buying them they're pretty the slider down to the bottom they leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► it there that is using it like it like a Nintendo DSi and they really diabetes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► make good games so let's make one of these products without three future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► because we can save money and the way they seem to save money with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► product is my bedd content and get to use the word from the auto industry like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► getting rid of 3d charlie is cheaper to have a screen that doesn't do with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► little three things to the left ventricular things on top of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► everything doesn't fold in half and I thought they were because they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► save money in the hands because hinges are expensive electronics and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► moving parts needed to thread you know ribbon cables through them and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► reliability issues and all that other stuff but what I read I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► this is confirmed just read it so maybe we'll know whether it's true or not is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► that it doesn't have to separate screens it as one big screen and they just crop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► out the top and the bottom part that's why does it because it can't be done now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► and once one screen that's larger like if you look at it like the tip top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► the same size so if there's one big rectangular screen this the width of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► top screen they're just hiding part in with the plastic surrounding parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► you know I know how to increase the middle part as well and seems like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► might be more expensive but I can also imagine it being cheaper I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► that's true but that would also explain why the thing doesn't fold in the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► reason it doesn't fall too looks kind of like a tablet form factor like it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► can converse Quinton think of it as kind of like I had many with with white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► candles and controls on the sides but then they put this thing on that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► it look like the top and bottom screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► and all the same 40 bucks retail which is not really that much but it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► significant amount of you think if I could you have a consumer electronics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► product and someone told you ok we want the state-run all the same games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► being good prognostic $40 out of it you like $40 how the hell do I get $40 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► are already using a plastic for the case I can't really get money out for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3776">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► chips and stuff like that it's a few bucks here in their ad I shrink of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► or something maybe who combine some chips and save 40 bucks how we get $40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► value out of this is handled and this is what it took to get $40 out of it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► it's cheaper it plays 3ds games in 2d it may be one big screen underneath the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► covers they move the controls around a little bit I don't think it's as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► ridiculous a product is made out to be I looked at it and that's it especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► the video more Casey put in it he said as a comparison video and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► everyone can make apple quality videos right but look at the size of the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► and how could have simply been too little bag I would buy this for my kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► if he wanted to play handheld games and I think the kids would like it and enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► playing games on it and that's what game machines are supposed to be for anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► antenna would actually make money selling them because they have found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► way to take some value takes them take somebody would take some costs out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► the manufacturing process and lower the price while still making a profit so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► have to give this kind of a tentative thumbs-up I don't know I saw even played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► console video games with any regularity in like 10 years we only have a week in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► the house which is on only occasionally and usually only for rock band John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► judge away I saw the pictures the tds and I saw the ridiculous video for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► two TDs and just the fact that it doesn't have a hinge just looks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► feels wrong to me it just looks like it's clearly something that was designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► originally to have a hinge and now doesn't and the thing that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► confuses me is that now you've taken a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► we think is designed for children in people with perhaps smaller hands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► smaller bodies and now you've made it bigger because it can never fold in half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► but did you know that much bigger like it's still pretty don't I look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► next that little kid who's upset up into his little carrying case it is look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► the video like it's hard when you see it just by itself you think you think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► looks like you know some gigantic like I don't know but might look at look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► next to the toddler putting away it is still small I think it's still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► reasonable size for a kid to put in talking to the backpack to go on a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► trip to have something to play in the car on vacation or something like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► don't think it's certainly not huge but maybe it's me and I just don't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► way it looks like it's supposed to have him to just doesn't like they forgot it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► rather than it rather than they designed it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► say the thing with the moment the hands a lot of a lot of 3ds games like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► shoulder buttons on it as well the space button shoulder buttons and you got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► analog stick candy pattern and also got a stylist for the top to the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► touch screen and some games trying to use like all those controls at once and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► liked it was it was the pilot wings chatroom can tell me kid Icarus whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► they came for the 3ds and Wii for the delayed ago anyway there was one game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3955">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► that didn't end with the required you to use like the styles at the same time as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► the analog stick to the same time the shoulder bond and the game came with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► like a little plastic stand thing because antenna recognized trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► manipulate the machine this manner while also supporting it is actually very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► difficult so find a table used a special plastic stand to profit up in the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► position when you can play a game and that's kind of a failure of like in game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► design and harbor design like it's kind of on gamely to be tried in trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► holding like basically a miniature laptop that folds over and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► clamshell thing while using all these controls over it and sometimes using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► stylus and everything I think the tablet form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► gives a better grip on the overall thing like the fact that is just one big solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► chat room says Kid Icarus Uprising was the game so I think that form factor may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► unfortunately it's probably worse for some games that were designed around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► clamshell factor because some games like Metroid Prime hunters like it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► be very difficult to play that game was designed around the position of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► controls for the folding game with a controller lower down near to the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► screen and now they're sort of split up but I think overall it will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► this one piece instead of having that strange thing at various angles so again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► I don't I don't think this is necessarily loser product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► myself out of them and actually I'm now looking at an image what appears to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► to be the TDS the what was the non 3d one the DSi and 3ds and you're right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4052">TS</a>]
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01:20:25 ◼ ► somebody the only people who never connect with you and your best friend in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► 26 tries to anybody actually ever do that I did I we played Mario Kart Wii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► against friends of ours and this was shortly after mario kart wii came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► and I was on fire and my friend was on a reasonably quick Comcast connection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► it was a total disaster that's not that was the better friend codes for back I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► think the DSi tell me what it was before the week where the friend codes do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► only the bare car we was like that was the improved version now see how much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► know I'm still better like they've been slowly making it slightly better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► more possible to do but they're a long way from being free for all I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► that's probably like the Wii U has a lot of things where people can scroll notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► to each other and they must have like a fleet of people like Amazon Mechanical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► Turk or something like filter out all the paintings drawings and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► someone's gotta be moderated like when you if you go to a certain level and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► die you call up in america again it'll be like you get to see a little message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► from somebody keeps dying that you and it's always something nice like I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► dying here like it's not like curses or vulgar drawings are ever since I must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► would not want that job no definitely not so our friend Ben Thompson who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► talking about at the very top of the show is in the chatroom among banks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► he's asking me my thoughts on the new Microsoft how many words in this title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► the Microsoft ergonomic desktop keyboard it was the successor to the Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4915">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► Natural ergonomic keyboard 4000 Microsoft doesn't have any problems no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► they they have the worst names of any industry especially especially their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► their non critical products like all the side stuff gets terrible names for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► new super mario brothers Wii enough yes so far we should talk about jeff Atwood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► keyboard to this is pretty cool that the code keyboard I saw that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► understand what makes it cool other than some tips which is on the bottom I I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► tell you what makes it cool and what makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► PC users makes it cool is that it's a single person's vision for the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► should be like that is something that I think Apple fans can get behind like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► regardless of what the product is like this is a single person's vision tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► he knew exactly what he wanted and he made that in every aspect of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► presumably exactly how jeff Atwood wanted and so that is there is a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► you know attraction to that and he's really like nerds nerds who like jeff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► Atwood is exactly the kind of guy you wouldn't want to design a keyboard if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► you're a nerd and you may not like what his decisions are but there's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► that Apple fans can totally get behind this like it's it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► project because it is a singular vision but his singular vision is for keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► that looks and behaves like that just not tonight I mean I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► even to margo states because he likes this particular right so this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► split because he didn't want that right now it has been keys with long throws a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► quickie debts are used to like but now I don't know I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► a very light pressure short throws like you know for us I really like so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► not a keyboard that I would ever buyer be interested in I i dont think its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► attractive looking either I think it looks like a PC keyboard because it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► PC or even though you are for the control key I thought I don't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► text on the key caps looks nice you know it's totally does not appeal to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► the idea of it definitely appeals to me and if you want if your interests and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► keyboard case a line with Jeff I went to this is the one to get because some guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► went out there and made something happen that would you know that you could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► have made on your own you would like a good one of these seventeen people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► reserve wanna can really decide what like this guy cut through all the fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► and made the keyboard that he wanted to make it was selling it so it's really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► very appealing product but I don't think I would ever buy them assuming Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► yeah I i think you know Jeff and the other people involved it like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► mainly on the design concept side they've made a really what appears to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► a haven't tried yet but it appears to be a really good implementation of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► old keyboard but using forever and to a lot of people are looking for you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► lot of people like it it's going to appeal to the people who are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► holding onto IBM Model M m's or who fuck try to find them on eBay because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► like you know it's like the keyboard and if you want the standard key layout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► that's been around forever and you want a really good implementation of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► then this is the one for you cuz it has everything the geek's love it has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► Cherry MX key switches the big lake buena clicky loud ones that are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► quiet her that's an aspect that he won he likes the cookies but didn't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► you know calamitous know is that some of the mix of the chair clear ones are his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► big keyboard post about the color but yes so it's it's a very good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► implementation of the same keeper the parent forever my dream keyboard so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► get this Microsoft many many words ergonomics cult keyboard and so far I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► only had it for half of today so obviously this is not any kind of long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► term impression so far I think it's pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► good but they they chose to use cookies on it and you know just like you boards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► and all that was recently boards it so it's like the short through flattop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► scissor switch on the bottom and it's not machine like the old domes which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5156">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► mean the old membrane one was it's it's not much like that that was the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► the original Natural 4000 the predecessor to get ahead just thus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► machinist crappiest keys and this one has like decent Suzuki's on it I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► say probably as good as as you know any Apple laptop keyboard recently possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► even a little bit little bit better a little bit you know spring air or or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► know firmer I guess so I like the keys so far I haven't type full-time on Asus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► a keyboard in a very long time so I don't know if it's going to be better or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► worse for tensile RSI issues for me but I'm hoping it'll be the same just by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► layout should be alright so we'll see about that but my dream keyboard doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► my dream keyboard the way I envisioned it today is basically is this keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► with jeff Atwood key switches and that as far as I know doesn't exist and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5216">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► everybody always recommend this one keyboard is called truly ergonomic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► paste the link in the chat everybody always recommends this and they say why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► have you tried this oh my god and the reason why haven't tried that is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► of that ridiculously out as I really do not like economic keyboard that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► weird custom layouts and this one is you know as we are glad to go it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► moderate like it's not it doesn't go totally crazy at the Kinesis advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► but it's it's kind of in the middle between regular keyboards and that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► it's very very strange and I don't like those kind of logic is it that involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► a very high learning curve and and it makes it a little bit difficult to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► between different computers and I frequently have to use a laptop here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► there or discs computer here and there are some computer here and there and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► I really like having just one standard keyboard layout at my fingers know are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► I also think the truly ergonomic one doesn't have the right shape it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► see what makes the Microsoft keyboards great is they have this giant hump and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► then curves down from there they had this great negative till where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► keyboard actually tilted slightly away from you in the relatively vertical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► direction from you it's also a way from you so that it's extremely comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► and it and in theory I don't know you know how many studies have proven that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► in theory it should be very very good for our site prevention so Microsoft has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► a has a great way of making those key is those keyboards with the best shape and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► and the most usable layouts but so far its natural four thousand was giant ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► boat with mushy keys and the net the new sculpt ergonomic desktop keyboard his is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► way better looking i mean it's just you could tell he reviewed just like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► initial impressions and it's so obvious like you look at the National 4,000 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► you look at if you do a Dell that he do a google image search for Dell Dimension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► 2005 you'll see that's what PCs look like in 2005 when the National 4,000 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► designed and it looks to the National 4,000 looks just like the PCs in the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► by today's standards it looks ridiculous and not in a good way and so the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► Microsoft sculpt the public is quite good looks nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► the keys feel pretty good I like it better than the Kinesis freestyle to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► format for the last year better than that I think it'll be ok my one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► reservation is on the the key type and it being Suzuki's I'm a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► worried about that the key to getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► any kind of our side benefit us as your keys you can't hit them as hard like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► right point of them as the activities you but that doesn't mean that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► actually don't hit them as hard because people get into the habit of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► pressing as hard as they used to have that price and that's actually hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► especially when you get like you know you're going to get going to get a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► head of steam you may find yourself in the keys as hard as you used to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► hit like your machine keyboard over never used before and that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► habit to try to break I guess that's what I had to do right and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► helped a lot like the the Kinesis freestyle 2004 for about the last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► has extremely light press key switches for the for that reason it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► Suzuki's but's it's very very light Press regular keys and and so I've kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► gotten used to think so we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► and that's one of the reasons I like I'm using a balloon keyboard now since I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► don't type correctly extreme difficulty with any layout changes because like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► you know I'm using the wrong hands on their own kids I'm doing everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► wrong with it so slick keyboards like paralyze me because you know I can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► them but what I try to do is like do everything we can within a standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► layout which means that very likely prices but also like to get it to slip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► away from me like that the Salt Lake stands in the back to torture yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5456">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► like like the more you tilted up the worse it is like so even after four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► thousand for some reason came with those I don't know why they had this big stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► you can put on the front lip that lifts it today to get the negative tilt but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► you don't have to put it on interviews giant stands in the back so you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► set up your perfectly awesome natural keyboard to be terrible for you people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► people expected I know this one the the the clip on front prop thing is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► optional although now it's meant the attacks with much cooler but there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► more rear stands those are just gone so you can set this up as terrible as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► could the other people who have keyboards and their star office trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► to make it level I don't start with that every keyboard including the Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► some kind of Tilton the wrong direction we're like you know if you put a marble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► and it would roll downhill into your lap you wanna try making it level to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► with that and you can do that by propping you can do that but if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► a keyboard tray just tell them that or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► and maybe you don't have to go negative with it but you know small change can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► make a big difference over a long period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5519">TS</a>]
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01:32:09 ◼ ► like a real solid never never never given it more than a week to week hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5529">TS</a>]
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01:32:18 ◼ ► are not compatible with a split keyboard layout and the thing is like it rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5538">TS</a>]
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01:32:32 ◼ ► increasingly terrible cross a rabbit on display keyboard so well this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5552">TS</a>]
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01:33:08 ◼ ► passed the part where I can learn new keyboard layouts are your keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► shapes like typing is really not like I don't think that's my biggest issue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5593">TS</a>]
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01:33:21 ◼ ► bad as it used to be so I'm just going flattering gamekeeper the right height [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5601">TS</a>]
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01:33:30 ◼ ► be allowed the keyboard way too high and tilted up honestly I really do think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► should try this even with DVD case if you need to because I mean obviously you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► probably have a more severe problem I did but like I was starting to get RSI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► like sometimes back when I like about a year into my first job after college I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► was just constantly on the computer and iPad keyboards and the key but I change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5628">TS</a>]
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01:33:58 ◼ ► you probably made that adjustment because that's when I had my problem was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5638">TS</a>]
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01:34:17 ◼ ► only type for certain periods of time and do other things that don't involve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► timing for some portion of your waking hours amazing things happen so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► definitely didn't do that i mean continued not to have a kid not to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► a life for about five years after the hell is no changes no reduction in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► probably an increasing computer use after that you are lucky could not do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► that and no matter what I was using mouse keyboard any shape any anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► because I was a man also my keyboard my heroes used to be way to highlight that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5682">TS</a>]
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01:34:52 ◼ ► lower so that that's where I got my biggest change may be able to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5692">TS</a>]
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01:35:00 ◼ ► up high I would have still been killing myself so are we getting to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► then in the same way that everyone was making t-shirts dry before WBC is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► trendy to make your own keyboard is that gonna be like the next big thing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► think that's something a regular people can do I think you have to think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► have to be jet I would make that happen honestly if I had to make one John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► Siracusa market if I had to make my own keyboard it would probably look a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► like the Apple I would just get the damn function keys away from my number keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► and think of me like I know they want to make this small as possible but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► a little dinky function keys being rather be in some cases no reason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5740">TS</a>]
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01:35:48 ◼ ► collection of Apple extended to the upstairs and that was my that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► keyboard that I used right up until the part the point where I was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► myself and I still like that better like I don't like as much as the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5755">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► extended to but I recognizes his accuser better for me so like maybe they become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► more attractive because now I think about having difficulties it feels good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► but only for a short period of time this does feel worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5769">TS</a>]
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01:36:22 ◼ ► is apparently only control key a us-based I don't have correctly my left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► Ctrl key work started sticking and I tried to repair it and it's like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► taken apart Suzuki's many many times Apple's caps and this was the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5791">TS</a>]
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01:36:43 ◼ ► loosing remember how they went and luckily now they have YouTube videos to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► give you insight but it is a very tricky process anyway I got the key back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► together after cleaning out and it still sucks I got a new keyboard but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► one downside to Suzuki's is can't service them you can like I was proud of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQjnJ9A/5815">TS</a>]
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