00:00:00 ◼ ► he's a nice guy I just hope he has a good voice that's how we use sound to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/0">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► other ppl Marcos gives you a glimpse of what it must be like for people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► the people in it but I didn't say it to the people who hate us this is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/8">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► how we found all nobody hates you John desko not really should look at my email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/12">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► there believe me but ok there's a different dates you incur Xu you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/17">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► realize I know well how are you going to know what the uncertainty about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/22">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► release day and you know like you could be could be any day now or never thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/28">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► it was well I rode up to the are you guys may agree that we should just start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/34">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► editing and copyediting this even though it's not done done like we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/38">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► doing battery tests and getting results and still waiting for education to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/43">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► and stuff I am still waiting for pricing information but like what's there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/48">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► start going through it now so it's it's uploaded and in the process of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/53">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► edited copy edited what there is a bit I'm just gonna get away that mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/57">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► hope they're going to give you a nice small notice about when it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► released but they could just say and here it is shipping now knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/66">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► they'll do it third obviously their plans don't factor in the quality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/72">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► life people writing reviews because that's really know their list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/78">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► you can make a call to one of your like birdies or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► birdies and besides like nobody knows this anyway I type of thing that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/86">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► the price and ship date are the type of things you can change right at the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► minute like you don't need to bring in advance notice for any things they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/97">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► hold that they can keep it you know me it's not all both both muslims are known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/100">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► to such a small group of people sound like he was not given the name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► product which has to be in marketing materials everything that I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► pricing and market shares a little bit but the hard they are any marking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► material is going to be on the App Store so just waiting on you don't leave you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/114">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► sound beaten but were not be nice and say you sound battered but not be it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/121">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► not this is not a fun part like you know we're running tests going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/127">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► screenshots nature of things haven't changed retesting things just no fun you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/132">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► sound like a man who's on the edge of stopping but I feel like every year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/139">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► get to this point and then it ships and then you're fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/142">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► well I every year or something knowing about it and this year I think the not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/145">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► knowing the ship date for the price of stuff like that I don't just tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/153">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► everything's these things so I can tell you but it seems like every other year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/157">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► previously we knew the ship date on the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► well in advance of it happening and who knows maybe we will this year as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/164">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► but we don't buy now is annoying me uncertainty is bad enough I we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/168">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► lot to get through anything else on your view this is gonna be a tough so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/176">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► because next week we're doing the show right after the iPhone in early today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/181">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► after the iPhone event and so I would imagine that next week we're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/185">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► a pretty packed show full of iPhone stuff although I don't know doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/190">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► like I think based on what we've seen so far I don't think if it's it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/195">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► iPhone and and not also iPad / Apple TV / anything else if just the iPhone which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/201">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► I would probably say there's like a 50 50 chance of then I actually don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/208">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► who's going to be any surprises and talk about the fingerprint scanner show who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/213">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► had somehow talked about the scanner have to show only because you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► time for but I do think your point that if there's anything interesting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/223">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► suspect that it will be something like the fingerprint scanner seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/227">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► there's a lot of smoke about the iPhone 5 couleurs I'm calling it the iPhone 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/230">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► champagne and I think that those seem to be pretty much a lock I thought earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/235">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► today on Twitter whether the champagne iPhone would be just a China thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/241">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► Asia think I should say or if it would go everywhere at the time I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/246">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► would be just them now I'm thinking it would probably be everywhere but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► all seems to be pretty much locked as far as far as I'm concerned the only big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/254">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► surprise in my mind would be well maybe not surprised but slightly surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/258">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► thing would be a fingerprint scanner and there's some amount of smoke there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► not a lot on what do you guys think I don't know I will probably mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/266">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► fingerprint scanner that there were something in the in the software I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► believe that that tip that off a reference to it in the hardware stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/274">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► somewhere and I can I was 7 beta something I think we've seen that before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/278">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► having me I can't cite an example but I could spread stuff like that before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/282">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► but I think it kind of makes sense as like something more interesting than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/286">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► passcode lock and and faster you know it's whether it's more secure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/291">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► depends on a lot of things it is highly arguable but it's at least more comedian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/297">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► like I don't I don't use passcode lock my phone no I only do if I am traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/301">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► and I feel susceptible to my phone being lost like it WBC I typically do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/306">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► because I don't trust fellow conference goers but because there's a gazillion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/312">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► iPhones in a square mile and it wouldn't surprise me if somebody accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/315">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► but generally speaking I do not have a lock on mine either I think early for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/320">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► security though there's always the argument security like if if you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/324">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► gonna clear password on a post-it notes ticket air monitor you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/330">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► better off having lower passer requirements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/334">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► remember it this is the kind of thing like I don't use a passcode lock because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/338">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► it would slow me down too much when I have to unlock the phone if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/341">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► something with a fingerprint scanner where it's really fast unlock based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/345">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► the fingerprint on the home button I might do that while the killing of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/349">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► or two ways on the fingerprint scan they could do the guests are members but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/354">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► Mac OS nine had a voice password thing for it to take user accounts where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/358">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► would say something and then type in your password you would say the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/365">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► thing about you in that one's the policy of that system which was so impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/368">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► when you first use it you realize that it is on the side of letting you win so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/374">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► if anyone says anything remotely similar to what you said in a similar Voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/379">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► so it's very comfortable and easy for you to use but the security is perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/384">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► slightly better than nothing but not much right and the other way to go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/390">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► it is to err on the side of not letting people it so that the fingerprint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/394">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► scanner works like 50% 40% of the time but it never let someone else and accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/401">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► your finger and based on that the fingerprint technology thing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/405">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► think it can be all that reliable so they have to make one of those choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► like it's not gonna work I don't think given ninety percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► time so they have to decide are we just going to say okay well ninety percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/416">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► the time it gets to enter your passcode but 10% of time you can enter your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/420">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► passcode anyway there's little frustration factor they like my body put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► my finger on their cause this time it didn't work for me to enter the passcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► maybe it doesn't take much people to say if it doesn't work almost a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/429">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► percent of time just gonna try passcode every single time and not bother with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► fingerprint thing and the other way to do it is to be like Marco who don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/436">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► the passcode and just say well if if your fingers closed and looks kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/440">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► close to let you win maybe we'll let someone else and sometimes but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/445">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► so that's what I'm going to watch for it this thing has a fingerprint scanners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/450">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► which one of those two policy so they can I guess I took their possibility is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/453">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► that it's it's magic and it works a hundred percent of the time and an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► is enough to make that choice or close two hundred percent but for some reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► I find that unlikely that it if you think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/463">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► my thought I have an average sized hand in my thumb is considerably bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/467">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► the home button so what happens if I use like the tip of my thumb in one moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/471">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► unlock the phone but then I use kind of the heel of my thumb the next time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/476">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► there some sort of scanner that I have to get some training process I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► go through in order to scan my entire thumbprint just seems so not a polite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/485">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► get all my thought process on the fingerprint scanner Apple has yet to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/490">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► produce an iOS device with the home button and the home button doesn't fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/495">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► some percentage of the time that's large enough for us to all have heard of or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/500">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► experienced a failed home but that's true have you never heard of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/504">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► experience at home button no I have on previous models but I think I before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/509">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► was really bad for that but I think the forest might have improved it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► the five I believe che believe the five like made it metal bats they keep making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/519">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► a better like they're improving it but I have heard of people with five specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/523">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► home runs and not another seems like it's their fault and shoddy workmanship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/526">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► it's just like it too but you press all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/530">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► you know it's good I don't know what the percentages in american 99.5% of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/534">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► home runs are fine after the first year and you know point five percent fail but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/539">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► that's a button does nothing except a button to expect a higher percentage at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/543">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► a vase about and that is a button and although by the way also some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/549">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► fingerprint scanner that that's why I miss 21 ruling out the idea that it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/552">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► work reliably nothin Apple how to make those choices of which way to go with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/557">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► I mean I think it's an interesting premise but like you I'm very dubious as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/560">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► to how they can execute well on it but just like mark was saying earlier I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/567">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► don't use a lock passcode lock my phone I find it to be annoying when I do use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/571">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► it at conferences whatever the case may be and the thought of a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/577">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► thumbprint scanner really does sound excellent to me but it also has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/581">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► other weird noises that come with it like for example what if Aarons phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/586">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► in the kitchen all the iPads and whatnots are upstairs we're sitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/591">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► the couch and she wants to look at look up something real quick if I handle my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/595">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► phone what did she do i mean logically I would assume she would have to enter my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/599">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► passcode which of course I would have shared with her but like how does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► work and that gets to be a little dicey and and what is the fall back like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► were saying earlier my son doesn't unlock it is the passcode I know it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/610">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► seems doable always work but I'm assuming it will always be an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/613">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► employees work all right I'm saying like would that be your fallback if you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/618">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► scan scan your thumb and it stands to reason it would be but it just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/622">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► like you're saying before just seems like it would be annoying if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/626">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► yeah that's you know it wouldn't surprise me if if you know john you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/631">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► exactly right that it it would just be like a quick shortcut to get out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/637">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► a quick alternative to internet passcode but it would still might even still show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► the passcode screen but hasn't had another important fact similar to Syria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/648">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► in that high winds kind of feature so even if you only even if someone bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/653">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► an iphone four US order in Syria came out and only you serious like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/658">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► two or three days to show people and play with people I think got their value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/663">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► out of Syria like they got a cool new phone you can talk to and they played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/669">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► with it and more entertained by it and eventually became bored because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/673">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► doesn't work reliably enough and they don't doesn't fit into their workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/676">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► but I think a lot of them are not bitter about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/679">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► like they still rely for the really nice phone and they got that extra bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/682">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► enjoyment out of it and it was exciting and interesting and new and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/686">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► fingerprint scanner could fill that role for the iPhone 5s around end up calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/689">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► it you know man series of mess every time seriously it's it's been out now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/694">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► for what two full years just a bit is still attract every time I try to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/700">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► Siri which isn't that often I I used to use it a lot but it just kept failing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/708">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► often back when it first came out and that you know you're just doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/713">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► wrong things like failing to be recognized and timing out having server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► issues it was just really slow down my use of it and then eventually stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/720">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► for a while and I've been trying it over the last couple of months I just once a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/725">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► week I'll try something and it fails about half the time and so I'm just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/730">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► it's so discouraging though I can't believe after all this time it still has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/735">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► yeah I mean I use it sporadically I think I would love myself in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► category of who this is Chinese fancy when I first got my for us and I used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/745">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► more but not a lot now I find myself only using Siri to set timers so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/750">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► we're like cooking or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► at or if I'm trying to send a text message while driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► dictated to Siri and hope that what I say and Aaron who members is remotely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/760">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► similar to the words that came out of my mouth and I would agree that syria not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/767">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► only is it bad but I would say it's gotten worse because I actually a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/772">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► up until the last month or two and I feel like it's a total crapshoot now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/777">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► yeah that's right so what else will be new so we saying yes to Champaign I from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/782">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► oh i mean i i think im not only champagne there's also that new kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/786">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► lighter gray color with the black but the black glass that also I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/792">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► actually there's there's four proposed colors and somebody had a video of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► four of them lined up for the shells so it's it's the the dark black and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/800">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► white and silver that we have now and then there is the champagne one which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/806">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► I'm sure everyone probably seen by now and then there's also a lighter like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/810">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► light black that makes sense and it's it's closer to aluminum color but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/816">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► still has the black accent which can be nice cuz honestly the black when I even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/824">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► saw this last year when when the five was new the black i think is to talk you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/828">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► don't really get a lot of that like nice metal quality for me because it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/833">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► looks like just one big black slab doesn't like the difference between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/837">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► black glass and the metal backing is not a big enough color differences like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/841">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► contrast there so I don't actually think the black looks like it also does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/846">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► age well because firstly along the chamfered edges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/849">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► the black anodized coating flakes off on on those corners on those edges and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/853">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► you see a lot of the underlying metal so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► for the next thing I couldn't quite tell them I love my wife has prohibited that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/862">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► in advance but she's right well she wants it and just about the same but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/866">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► thinking about that medium gray colors looking pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► honestly because I think it'll age better and I think I think it'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/876">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► look cool again the blacks as the detail the black ass gets lost because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/879">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► it's too dark I wonder people are going to have iphone 5 CNN not just because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/885">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► the colors but maybe maybe I'm the only one I guess what you're seeing you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/891">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► see my ipod touch and I've got that what is it called kind of plastic TPA is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/895">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► called CPU GPU I think it's a kind of plastic it's like not squishy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/900">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► rubber but also not hard like regular plastic it's a little bit creepy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/906">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► that's why I like my case I why I wanted to be like curve and comfortable but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► little bit creepy and I can't tell what the back of the 5 C's made out of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/914">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► some kind of plastic but if it's made of TPU or something sometime and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/918">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► guessing it's not like it looks more comfortable in my hand that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/922">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► wondering if you look at them much faster fancy or expensive looking five a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/926">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► serb whenever but holding a five see is more comfortable it feels more secure in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/931">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► my hand and feel it's you don't have sharp edges it's more durable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/937">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► resilient to nicks and scratches and stuff like that were forced to be slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/941">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► and you know maybe not as good a phone and I wonder about that I wonder if like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/945">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► anybody out there will come home with their 5s and feel little twinge of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/952">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► disappointment that they didn't get to bring home the green curve comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/957">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► when they liked the people in the know are all pretty much saying for certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/962">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► that the five see is literally just an iPhone 5's internals probably even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/967">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► same camera if I had to guess that's kind of style when they can do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/973">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► this so it's basically an iPhone 5 but a rather than just pushing the iPhone 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/977">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► down there supposedly getting rid of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► and replacing the old model this year with this new edition of the internals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/985">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► with this new casing around it and so if that's the case it's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/991">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► pretty good funny iphone 5 still really good even with iOS 7 stuff it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/996">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► still a very very good phone and you know when you think about what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► actually selling they don't as far as I know nobody's going to break it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► may be forced to do you found a way to like figure out with margins and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► like what the breakdown is between the different iPhone models that are sold at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► a time like how many cell relative to each other from just just looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► least the public and what people buy just anecdotally its it always seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► like the the cheaper like last year two years ago miles of iPhones have sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► extremely well so what if what if the iPhone 5 seed since the iPhone 5 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► still so good by by most standards of the phones today what if the five see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► kind of makes it official that the lower end model / last year's model is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► the default model similar to what the iPad Mini did to the iPad what the iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► mini iPod Nano does the iPod you know you have the highest premium model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► that's going to 5s this year and then you know then you have the one that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► people buy and previously that was last year's model this time maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► going to five see ya there will be a change in iPhone buying because up until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► this point what Apple has told us is that the most popular model is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► like whatever the fanciest one is like the way you don't give you break down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► most of the time they will confirm that like most people are buying iPhone 5's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► or something to that effect because of the best and you know they're still kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► of selling I am thing and I would not be surprised at all if come some earnings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► call when someone tries to get this information out of them they say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► most people are buying five C's are they sold more five seasons than five houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► but I think the five see might be a better conceived physical product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► because they've gone through all these iterations of you know the glass back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► the 3G with the big bubble plastic back and the original with plastic bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► like they've gone around and around trying to find something with a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► bounce something so beautiful object and I think the before for us form factor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► this the most attractive is like a piece of sculpture and also one that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► most daring utilitarian and you know fun and comfortable to you is to recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► the most the time you're holding this thing your hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► checking into your purse or pocket or whatever which one strikes the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► balance and maybe that's gonna end up being the five see I think it depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► what kind of plastic windows and stuff but I don't think the five is now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► speech by get either so maybe you're right maybe the 25 becomes the the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► 4 of the exact on the phone line and this this thing becomes the mini and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► then it becomes the biggest I am sure Apple be perfectly happy with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► because as far as they're concerned they're selling your cheaper version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► last year's phone and tell them I mean and I agree with you by the way I i i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► think that the best feeling I found in my hand was the 3G / 3G s because it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► that nice curve and it was plastics hose is felt very secure in the hand very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► well you're an iPod Touch person every iPhone is too big to sound like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► that like you try to look for what what is the sweet spot between making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► something too thin and two in like the 3G you know was was very large and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► like a little bit overly large yet felt comfortable but didn't feel comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► and the other aspects of your life when you shove it into your pocket now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► so really quickly just you put the rumor mill to bed if there is a five seed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► let's say that it's very very cheap on contract John Siracusa will you finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► get an iPhone because it will be very cheap on countries like Apple is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► adding Apple's not responsible for the price of an iPhone you know the carriers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► are the price of the phone is so small compared to that because to paying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► you know of a rising calling and data plan for two years of life that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► phone price like Apple AAPL has little control over whether i buy an iPhone at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► all to the carriers you're the only person in the world who buys a phone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► subsidized environment and actually does that computation for the kids because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► they can't you know like some teenager on tonight on the like do you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► much they cost like go get a job delivering pizzas and then you can pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► for their plan you can play you know I will eventually reach that point I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► waiting them out they're good they're lowering their prices and you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► wife's car once I get like a family plan twice now something suddenly lower the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► family plan price you know I just re-upped my real campaign made that term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► come into existence I don't know but apparently it is perpetrated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► consciousness anyway I just paid again from my stupid foot long time I am and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► bought two years worth because it was $150 for two years for the services not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► so I think about the next time you give you $70 Verizon bill now what if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► could find a decent prepay data plan that supports the iPhone and to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► honest that may exist already know I have no idea but would you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► although our previous sponsor Tang they they seem to imply on the Arabian state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► director and a website that they expected the iPhone pretty soon you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► people think I'm a cheapskate and don't care but nice things by not having an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► iPhone but the fact is that I am prima donna and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► demand very best things that I can happen when mister going entirely i dont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► wanna get them for eyes and partially because I live kind of in a cell phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► dead area and Freising has the best coverage around where I am and also has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► the best coverage of my house looks like I'm not going to let you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► Verizon network that's a realistic at the church so much money because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► know look we have cell towers over the place and you don't so I'm basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► slave to Verizon because of the physical realities of where the cell towers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► where I live really still true I'm the opposite with AT&T that AT&T coverage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► everywhere fairly mediocre if that's a word but Verizon covers everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► ok except my house where there's no coverage so I still can't use varies I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► really haven't had bad experience with 18 last year to my mind when I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► 3G S which I got one is brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► that was pretty ugly as soon as you got off the beaten path and i got an AT&T [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► and by the time I got the 40 S things were pretty good for the most part now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► it's very rare that I have a situation that I don't have pretty good if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► excellent coverage now to be fair I'm not off in off what I would call the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► beaten path but I mean I've traveled quite a bit over the last couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► and I've never been in a situation that I can recall that somebody standing near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► me with the rise and phone without an issue when I had my at&t phone and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► was a piece of crap and Marco has the same problem that I do you live too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► close to rich people in case the problem is that I passed and I'm like a block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► from your house I know I love to near Richmond just not held the problem is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► area near a school Chestnut Hill that hotel local telco has a lower density of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► cell towers than elsewhere because no one set out in the backyard in there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► rich people and what it produces is like you can see when you want to be line on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► the T you go past Chestnut Hill and there is no signal like you know for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► and so that's bad and I'm assuming you have the same problem is what you get up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► into Batman Bruce Wayne Manor territory near their house and so service gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► body actually don't have that problem in fact our town hall has cell towers right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► on and we can almost see it directly from our house I just on the horizon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► terror there but the problem we have is that the area around here is very hilly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► and as anybody who lives near hills or mountains can tell you they are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► much radio waves worst enemies so it's it's it's very very spotty coverage up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► here for foremost radio things AT&T happens to cover it well possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► because it is intent on top of our town hall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► plus the the remaining four but the the way in which GSM and CDMA signals were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► little isn't it a little better for landscapes on GSM but little from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► four buildings or something like that I'm reaching bad things are forgotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► years ago think that's now absolute with LTE that doesn't matter as much does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► matter is mostly the frequencies I believe anyway we really should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► talking talking about know john as you do is you actually not talking as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► know I was we're not talking right let's wrap up the iPhone top because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► going to be talking with us all next week and is there anything else I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► don't have anything else I just want to make sure you and John both had a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► unless unless you actually think it's going to be something non iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► released I didn't throw this out there I have this is like the fourth hand from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► some random person that has no provenance anywhere but something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► someone mentioned today and I just remembered his way out of the blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► applications for Apple TV I saw there was somebody mentioned I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► whether it was like you know one of our bloggers people that were friends with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► our macro or something somebody mentioned that like the Apple TV SDK was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► apparently like almost done for the BBC that they heard in the push to cancel or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► whatever I don't know what thoughts on that was like you know in the recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► months they've been the whole bunch of new icons that have appeared on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► Apple TV right different channel partners and so like when I look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► those in like ok well as Apple writing all those apps or is there some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► pro SDK and shipping off to its various partners like Disney and ESPN something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► they're writing those apps and then like maybe not too much of a stretch to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► look instead of just appearing on your Apple TV every time you do a software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► update how about some kind of you know crappy sort of Apple TV store where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► can choose which icons you want and maybe hooking up with some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► payment subscription thing and let people subscribe to Netflix through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► Apple TV and subscribe to Kullu and you know that type of thing we're quite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► App Store we're all thinking of like oh and now there's going to be angry birds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► into in trouble with little five-way controller and that stupid and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► the new amazing Apple TV there are things I was just kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► regularizing the current ongoing system of adding icons to our home screens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► making us turn them off parental controls because we can't control them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► any other way so there's a couple thoughts are firstly earlier today and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► don't remember where I saw it there was a report that somebody had snoops like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► delivery information or something I forget where exactly what specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► said but they said something along the lines of Apple's been receiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► shipments that were labeled for the purposes of customs set-top boxes yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► and so they were starting they were trying to extrapolate that oh maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► these were like no demo units are for first-run units from from China where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► they're being built the other thing I should point out is my understanding of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► Apple TV apps as they are today is that they're they're all quasi web based so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► for example the plaques app which masqueraded as the trailer zap it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► like this weird hack reset your computer to be a proxy and then when you go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► the trailers app on the Apple TV it would intercept that it would show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► information from Plex Media Manager for capex B&C anyways that was all like XML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► and HTML CSS and so on and so forth from what I'm told so I don't think that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► even if there is an SDK I think it's more a lot the initial iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► which was not native it was just hit me I make a web app in for letting you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► that much I don't see this happening yet and I don't know I mean you know Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► Cook hinted earlier this year I think it was maybe it the All Things D conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► or on various earnings calls or whatever else to look into a number of occasions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► pretty strong chance that we would see something that's basically a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► category of thing from Apple this fall is not the five see though I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► the five see matters that much I mean in the grand scheme of things in it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► iPhone yet the five see is gonna be probable for Apple they're gonna make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► killing on the iPhone their most popular product and they're gonna sell about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► Lotus five seas but at the implication that he gave in these statements was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► about hearsay and the geek in the chatroom it says it was a direct quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► new product categories and so I don't know that to me is the implication there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► is worth talking about the kind of thing like you know like the water the TV or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► we are one of these one of these new things we'll talk about that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► the application now you know maybe he had a loose definition of that maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► Mac Pro that they announced in June after he said this may be the Mac Pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► considered a new product category is a new title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► yeah I mean I wouldn't get one but maybe he does you know it it could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► just that but I'm betting not I'm betting or something else and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► it's the watch things like you know doesn't return about one event to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► September 10th is still time for an October it meant to them to announce how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► about the Mac Pro which we know they're going to you know they said they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► gonna announce there's time to produce and i watch things like they have there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► are possibilities out there is just that I questioning ok well what's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► on September 10th and that seems like it's just gonna be a phone that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► to sleep the suggestion from an injured in the chatroom that the new category is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► now I don't know what they're gonna do with events this fall I mean obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► they're not going to cram everything into September 10th event that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► very likely to just be iPhones very unlike anything else at all it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► be a fun probably iOS 7 you know the official announcement here it's done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► it comes out in you know today / a week's you know whatever whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► case may be and they're not going to have a fence for every release like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► the new MacBook Pros come out and they happened to just be you know i Haswell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► update may be able to you know it it just that and it's not also like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► know Retina Display desktops with the Mac Pro all together in one big event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► they wouldn't do an event for just like a CPU update to a laptop you know so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► can but they still have iPads they still have the Mac Pro they still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► potentially a new category whatever that means so I don't know if it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► we're in for more than we expect you know sinking that night and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► thinking you know they were a lot of the chatter before WWDC was how quiet Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► had been and if you think about it there hasn't really been much now yes I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► seven was a radical visual departure from what we've seen in the past but by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► and large there were some very cool new API's but nothing earth-shattering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► there's no se Syria API for example so there's still not a lot of activity for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► a year I mean on the one on the one hand you could say there's been a lot to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► there's not a lot and so so I wonder if they're just gonna cram everything into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► everything is coming maybe a watch maybe a new Apple TV maybe something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► we're not even dreaming up a what if what if they're so smug and just sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► so quietly on their laurels waiting for the next three or four three months or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► so in the beginning in 2014 to just knock all of our socks off cos it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► strikes me as an apple thing to do I don't think they say the two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► we're talking about four categories are television thing and things you wear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► I can't imagine both those things being ready for the holiday season even one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► them being ready the holiday season still questionable but it seems like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► do both amazing new television product and amazing thing that you we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► probably on your wrist before the holidays not just because they may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► be ready but it would do we do with distract from one to like you want one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► of them to be the big push you wouldn't want to dilute the message of either one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► of those things as impressive as well imagined by having them out sometime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► that one thing that also tipped me off that the timing of this is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► weird is Chris Parker's departure from you like it so you know you sure you saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► that Chris Parker is a really nice guy who works at Apple if you've ever gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► to the BBC you almost definitely seen him give the what's new and you like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► talk he's a guy with long straight blonde hair and he's very energetic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► is also in talks so I follow him on Twitter nice guy in the world and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► dog is adorable and he and his dog adorable together anyway he was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► something important I don't really know exactly what on the UIKit team for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► last 45 years some very long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► pretty much since you like it has been a public thing and he announced about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► month ago few weeks ago he announced that he had he was leaving the UIKit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► team to go work on something else within apple that he couldn't talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► was that the implication was that it was new and exciting so given his experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► on the UIKit team I assume that this means like going to work on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► else that may be in the same vein or the same kind of thing like a UI level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2035">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► framework / AP I / developer tool and so that would correspond pretty nicely too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► if there is a watch or a TV SDK then that would be that would make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► however not be released this fall that be way too soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► are things R Jones in the chat said earlier that Tim Cook had said there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► would be new stuff in the fall and in 2014 everything you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► corroborates ourself it's with that makes a question is what's what's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► fall that that would be considered possibly a new category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► mean like maybe the first generation of the quote watch is basically an iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► Nano that can show notifications in your phone on it or lose sight of what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► important here guys maverick ship date except you throw me a bone you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► have been today's gonna be all about phones and the 525 seeing colors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► then let the and just go on by the members gonna shipment on such date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► thank you goodnight John Surtees it one day at another hotel right now that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► fear that just gonna wake up one morning and will be on the App Store be a Friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► night and it'll be on the App Store immediately available for sale for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► price developers will never have received the gym you know or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► sending developers get a gem but still no date and price just you know we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► the GMP three weeks and then it arrives in the store one morning with a price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► you know how can I get a book into the end of the book stories I don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► price until it arrives I asked you well I mean you could argue do you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► need to know the price for the for the content of your review I already wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► about it but my best guess is the price you could delete the whole section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► variable that you can assign a web service call different paragraphs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► text if it's free kick for costs $0.99 published paragraph it'll be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► markowitz reminds me we should take note to you and i discussed the Siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► rescue plan if this happens and how I'm getting to you and we're getting to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► in time to stop him from doing something stupid like and get us to him quickly at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2176">TS</a>]
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00:38:30 ◼ ► hide functionality that really should be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2310">TS</a>]
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00:40:35 ◼ ► what else you wanna talk about we have a laundry list of things do we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► confections to talk about how the App Store sucks or do we want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► Nokia I don't know how I'm feeling a lot of these topics are going to be pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► boring I mean the cat thing like ok who can who cares like which mountain or ski [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► lodge in intel uses for the next chip code-named like it does it really matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2459">TS</a>]
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00:41:30 ◼ ► synergy but with ecology at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2490">TS</a>]
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00:41:57 ◼ ► Marco and you can feel free to interrupt me when you're ready Marco had tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► about hey I wanna get a new network attached storage to get a job of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► and I remember this was going on red round of you to PDC because I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► talking about it in line with you for one of the presentations in Presidio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► come to find out that somebody from Synology caught wind of this and offered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► to San Marco a Synology network attached storage box and that was extremely kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► of them and then decided you know what we don't want to just be that awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2547">TS</a>]
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00:42:40 ◼ ► gotten the same Synology box they were even even doubled down on awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2560">TS</a>]
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00:42:56 ◼ ► talking about them because we want to not because they told us we have to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2576">TS</a>]
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00:43:09 ◼ ► go ahead I'll preface it by saying that I haven't had a network attached storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► boxes for except for the transporter which the transporter guys sent us they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2594">TS</a>]
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00:44:27 ◼ ► similar degree like Dropbox did we're now you have this new sort of third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2667">TS</a>]
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00:45:26 ◼ ► because like the transport are expected to work on a plan to look like a plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► looks like a little tiny bit as big as a potted plant that's cute little vertical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► things like a little computerized garden gnome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► like I was adorable at home it's 1 2.5 inch drive in there so I'm not expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2736">TS</a>]
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00:45:46 ◼ ► PC thing everyone got his I was asking him like you know fans however the fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2746">TS</a>]
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00:45:54 ◼ ► the closet like I didn't have high expectations for this thing I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2754">TS</a>]
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00:46:04 ◼ ► and big it's heavy and it feels like it costs much more chances does have metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2764">TS</a>]
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00:46:14 ◼ ► stuff with a hard drives took it out of the box and like the instructions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► come with it like two sentences long like plug into power plug into your net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► go to your computer and type find out Synology dot com or whatever into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► web browser like it was just a host name the time do you represent then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► somehow finds your network attached storage and network and there it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► like alright well just mounted is like a single volume a single massive volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► which is like a great area that's not what I want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► know what am I gonna do with this thing like having you know twenty-four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► terabyte of storage just sitting there on my desktop network attached is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► useful to me so I fired up the new software interface this thing which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► expected to look like an apple router and is like that web page you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► web server looks like some disgusting thing or whatever but I don't care Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► fine if it looks gross like that that's fine I just want to be able to first I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► was like oh my god maybe I didn't understand what this thing is maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► just gives you like you know put all this together in some kind of raid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► arrangement or something and you can choose a traitor and maybe just shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► as one of them but I don't want to use it like that I wanna divvied up into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► different pieces in slices and I shouldn't have worried because their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► interests to have its a web interface but and it doesn't look like an apple a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► banana look kind of like a Linux on the desktop kind of interface influenced by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► the original Apple aqua stuff but it is perfectly serviceable it works the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► you expect him a little windows you can drag around and stuff and you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► anything with this thing like just by clicking around you can do this thing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► into any possible arrangement of every any difference tragic car volumes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► different pieces they could appear has different volumes amounting to apply a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► user account supply quotas or maybe just a little tired but I was impressed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► the flexibility of this thing and my main problem now is just too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► possibilities I don't know how is it so much space and I have I am so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► schemes in like that I wanna do it so I spent like the first week just slicing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► these discs up into different pieces and then reform at the moment slight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► increase life and then trying this out installing applications do all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► and the whole time by the way this thing is in my basement and has two gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► fans in the back of it that are amazingly quiet not quite enough that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► would everyone in the room with me but still pretty darn amazingly quiet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► fact that comes out of the box like one of the web interface thought you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► gonna find this quiet I found every options think it's quiet and cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► emoticons shipping quiet mode and it's like well the whole reason I put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► my basement so I switched to cool mode and it is not that much noisier I came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► about the same way so I have a thing down the basement about six feet off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► ground on top of something with you know cat6 cable ran to the back of it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► put my transported down there to an uppity ups down there also off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► ground so like my basement flood waters to get sixty high before it takes my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► network attached storage offline or in which case you have lots of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► yeah and I've been on a flooding here anyway so this is really changed my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► like that I have this unseen magical stories it's always on know I can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► it accessible from the web because of course the boxes that features well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► I'm mightily impressed with this and I would not hesitate to suggest this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► product for anyone who wants network attached storage because and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► that I've asked to do including Network Time Machine backup from two separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► max that's the great thing about the deadline or mountain lion let you add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► the second disc to Time Machine I just said why the hell not an added added is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► the second time machine destination for all the computers in my house and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► they're back up to their local time we had any also backup network one and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► was my first estimate can you back up for million styles off my Mac Pro two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► never time she answer is yes no maybe we'll flip out when it runs out of space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► because it does that when it's not your regular dosing that's not really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► fault of the this analogy but it has done everything I've asked to do and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► very impressed by it I give it to big thumbs up I will say also before before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► I had this analogy last year when I was when I was using a laptop inside of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► profile time I had a Mac Mini running Leopard or lion server and using Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► Machine that way like with the USB disk into the Mac Mini with Time Machine or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► through Apple server over the network to my laptop and it was incredibly slow to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► back up to look things up to restore files it was just ungodly slow with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► Synology with the Mac Pro obviously there's a lot of different factors here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► this aren't external to it although you can plug in USB drives to it but I in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► this case I didn't it's just WAY faster I would say Time Machine both backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► and restores and browses from a macro to a Synology are just as fast perceptibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► to me at least just as fast as your local disk but time is in itself is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► still incredibly slow and terrible protocol just doing it to a local to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► disk inside my Mac Pro its low because doing all sorts of terrible things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► one of the things I did do with this is try to see what kind of speed that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► getting from it and you know and I'm able jumbo frames which I hadn't done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► before because I had never had a reason to analysis on a reason to enable jumbo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► frames and I was happy to learn that all night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► switches between me and the next support jumbo for him so I turned it on and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► was getting over a hundred megabytes a second just in a writing like big media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► files which case to this thing so I'm totally satisfied with the speed of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► course time machine is still slow as balls but it's not it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► obviously not the fault of the hardware anything between disc entirely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► software thing which i'm willing to live with but it's not so slow that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► it seems like a time machine to an internal see some say it's it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► the same like it wasn't even i mean i i haven't done a massively story about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► few files off here and there and doing that really just feels the same as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► always did using an internal three and a half hours driving the Metro the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► the one thing that I planned poorly about risk like when I knew that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► coming I ran and other cable from my computer through these various holes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► have you know that with a hand everything my own sort of you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► have several cable going through this every time I do it I never bothered to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► like put a lead in there so I can put things back and forth anyway I did a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► cable unstable that all up to the rafters and got it all into the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► corner of the house where the next up is and then when the nasdaq put down then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► realize this is for land ports like I could've I should have run three more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► wires was a big mistake and now I couldn't be re-run one cable to my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► to the switches his iMac I could also run another cable directly to the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► of my television and I want to stream because of course this thing is a deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► on a server and it does video streaming everything so would have a gigabit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► tonight to and from a Mac but it also have a separate gigabit interface to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► from my entertainment center who want to stream movies and I want those movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► 122 keynote transfer 200 megabytes a second kind of a reason for ports in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► I kinda forgot not running more wire but that's not the fault of an ass and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► would it supports connection bonding so if you switch supports that you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► can I believe bond all four of the parts together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► yeah I've got two ports in the back of my Mac Pro and the new Mac Pro do as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► well so I filed under those injuries can you do that first time ever tried I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► on a Mac Pro is the only method has multiple Ethernet ports that would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► a lot of sense yeah it's ok so what do you think so I too had never had network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► attached storage before the fall transporter which clearly serves of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► wildly different purpose then ecology and previous you getting the Synology I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► had the most ridiculous set up half USB external enclosures and while they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► all like USB external enclosures but that's more like one or two were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► connected to the to my Airport Extreme one or two were hard lined into one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► my max in the so this way my to max could could back themselves up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► entire machine it was ridiculous I'm actually fairly embarrassed at how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► ridiculous so I get this ecology and I did it up so what's the particular ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► we got where the 18 13 plusses which are kind of the Big Daddy models if you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► which again thank you so much for sending them in so I took the first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► physical drives us was mostly Marcos recommendation took first two drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► made them one single volume and that would be Time Machine backups for Mighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► Max and errands Mac and I took the other six and say do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► Synology hybrid raid whatever magic thing to make it one gigantic volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► with one redundant drive and and that becomes expendable it's very similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► how drugs work where they called the SHR for high-percentage period and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► very similar was worried that you can pull one drive out and replace it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► bigger one and then it'll rebuild the array and expanded the reason I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► by now if you don't mind Casey the reason I recommended that he split up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► like that is that the hybrid RAID volumes are very big and very spendable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► but also very slow and when you think about how work it's similar to how RAID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► five works where every access every reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► right requires all of the disks near a to read and write before it's done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► so you can imagine it reality that actually slower than like one disc in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► a kind of performance or is it especially in right as it's a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► song rights and so you know the USSR vol four me like I was a little nervous to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► have eight discs all reading and writing constantly with the exact same things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► was nervous for both the speed of that and also the lifetime of those discs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► being already written to exactly the same amount and and for everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► just a day earlier because none of them like this crazy ass editions are great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► additions whatever the stupid things that drive manufacturers to these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► to return my money out of us so that's why i like Time Machine is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► different access pattern then everything else time machine is very frequent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► should be fast so i did i do two discs in raid 0 which I know is crazy but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► a backup and it's not even my only backup to disk in 30 our time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► for us and the reason why we have to do it that way is because I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► whether this is a limitation of just the psychology management interface or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► underlying component they're using that's probably a BSD thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► emulates I machine but you can only have one time machine share on a psychology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► of one's so if you want multiple computers back up to 12 2008 all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3414">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► have to have them all go to the same share then you can manage their space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► with user quotas but we will see how that works in practice anyway so I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► you know the two radios for that and then I have four discs in SHR for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► my general like a big file storage and media serving it's about that and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► two bays and D for future expansion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► so so yet cases are crazy no no not also minus fully loaded so I have the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► like you had said to 10 and then the other six is one gigantic drive a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► things that and let me pick up a little clipboard taking us on a few things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► I that I wanted to point out about them about the Synology firstly it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► actually suite of iOS apps you can download one of them is just a general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► manager so if you expose it to the internet you can't which by the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► can get your own and install and so on so forth anyways if you expose it via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► the internet you can manage it remotely via the web you can manage your money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► this iOS app also the Synology itself has kind of a package manager and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► can actually install different packages one of the packages I installed was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► download manager in so that'll let me download if I wanted to download a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► torrent or if I have a newsgroup account to download newsgroup things I can or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► even just do like a double you get for intensive purposes all of that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► done on this Knology and there's a separate iOS app for that has a Plex on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► the Synology so if all of your media is on the psychology which all mine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► then it would then it can expose at the plaques in and I think I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► earlier in the show that plexus really need media manager let's see what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► there are smaller versions of the Synology so like I said we were we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► lucky enough to get the Big Daddy ones but there are smaller ones that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► fewer drives and I believe all of this line of Scientology's also support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► getting like daughter boxes for lack of a better word expansion box right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► you could load a bunch of drives in there in the future if you decide you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► need to and that's why you don't have to pay the price for this whole big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► upfront and you could get one of the smaller ones an add-on if you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► find you need to USB disks that you have a bus powered one terabyte drive that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► I wanted to just go to throw down in the basement and I got an extra one terabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► of portable storage that just you know attached to the thing although you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► as far as I can tell when you mount USB Drive you don't have all the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► you can't make great volumes out of them and stuff like that like its a portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► attended right as far as I know so we have the 1830 s 1813 plus all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► numbers that end in three years I think are the most recent revisions right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► 1813 there's also the 1513 same thing but instead of a paisa as five but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► think otherwise it's it's effectively identical and has the abilities if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► don't need eight days I would say the 15 13 plusses probably want to look at and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► is even there's even a given to baby models down to low and I don't I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► they have like less processing power cuz they have to be so cheap so i i'd not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► sure if they would be able to do all these exact same things but the but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► the five billion AP Moller pretty great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► some of the chat rooms asking whether they thought it was worth it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► price and I was it worth it for us we got for free but the price is a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► maybe that was what was keeping me away from buying one of these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► expensive and you look at them you like I can just buy a PC for that price but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► then the reason I wasn't buying a PC for that price was well my PC then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► probably saw like Linux on there and deal with lawyer management and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► you gonna put the drives and they gonna be all internal and how easy it is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► get done and maybe you should buy like a shuttle PC where you can get them in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► out and eventually you end up sort of cobbling together your own ass like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► to yourself and ask if you arrive back at the things he is providing for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► already done software hardware everything included 10 I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► just pulled the trigger on the before like that is that to me is worth the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► the downside for me as UNIX nerd is that don't go into this expecting that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► you going to get is a Linux PC with logical volume management and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► that like you can get a show you can ssh into it but whatever is going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► processors on but it is not a full fledged Linux PC that you just go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► to sleep operate in there it's gonna have all your Linux user land that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► expected and you can be able to just install your own stuff from rpms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► just treated like it's like I have a lick pussy and also have announced what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► you have is an ass and it is totally design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► from top to bottom to be network attached storage and not designed from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► top to bottom for you to just have an interactive user she'll use it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► your little place the USS agent to instead he can install it comes back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► you can install Perl from their packaging and it's not like you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► all that stuff but it doesn't come out of the box but that so if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► expecting like a Linux home server that you're going to be using interactive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► least Michelle people wanted that except for me maybe this is not that thing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► is an ass and although you can make it a kind of like a Linux machine it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► of like swimming as the tide do that so you like I went in there for example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► condescension cron jobs to do stuff instead of going through the GUI but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► don't think crime D was on there maybe was a very clear once I like a shell to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► give you reason even like basher let alone you know my career Shelties yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► you can solve the SH you can install bash against all these things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► they're not there to begin with a single tu tu not set of cron jobs but to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► like an ass because there's a GUI interface for all the stuff you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► some reputed job you want to do you know go nuts with it so that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► only caveat I would give this if you want something that's never good touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► storage appliance by this if you want a Linux Home Server bioethics home sir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► if you if you're gonna wanna like really hack it and how and if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► want to do things that it can't do officially and there's a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► weekend officials have a kind of like an App Store type interface a package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► manager interface stuff from you can you can probably brother their site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► somewhere that I would say it you can ssh into it like I I tried installing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► the CrashPlan client directly onto it you can have it back itself to crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► land and because my CrashPlan server here as we discussed previously because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► my CrashPlan near servers terrible thing that but I did get a working interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► was too slow to upload to matter but you know if you're going into that area of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► like installing your own package manager and then installing Java and installing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► your own stuff at that point you might want your PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► like you know a regular Linux PC that happens to have a bunch of drives and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► may be but if what you're looking for is the next then withdrawn that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3835">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► pretty much the way to go yet I had a couple other quick thoughts and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► them actually was about CrashPlan so my two MacBook Pros one of which is works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► one of which is mine and the one that's mine has crashed plan on it and I told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► my Mac I told CrashPlan to look out and look at the Synology and back it up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► big you know what is it fifteen terabyte array whatever it is and it's ok I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► three or four days or something like that because i dont have the problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► you have with crash and burn off all of that is now in CrashPlan I'm not paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► anything extra for it that's all that's all just up there waiting for me which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► is really great and the other thing I wanted to point out was just like jon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► said it really changed my world in i mean that because say for example I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► really like Top Gear my favorite TV show the the British version and so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► all of these episodes of Top Gear stored on literally 15 or 20 DVDs and as john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► braided me about early on in the ATP's existence that really isn't a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► mechanism for keeping all of these files additionally I had you know all of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► wedding pictures on a couple of DVDs and yes I had a couple of backups of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► but all of these things are just sitting on DVDs in various binders a review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► column from straight out of like 99 there now all they've all been sucked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► into the Synology and now in principle I never have to worry about them again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► that is really awesome and on top of that if I want to watch some random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► episode from the fifth season or series of Top Gear I can do that in no time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► whereas before I have to say I thought now I gotta go up to the office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► find the binder full of top your DVDs figure out which one is the one that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► the Top Gear episode of 1812 taking forever now it's all just write their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► own summary it really has been awesome I've never I've always kinda fell about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► wanted a network attached storage but I never felt like it was something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► needed and now I've been completely changed now I must have this in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► so I definitely recommend it even if you don't get the model we have find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► different model that fits your needs by definitely recommended I can't say thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► you enough for the folks at Synology for sending off US one that was extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► kind of them to do that I i'm compelled to this point to remind people because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► no one has yet in this discussion that rate is not a backup solution yes keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► repeating that to yourself as many times as possible like 11 I was giving up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► analogy and I still haven't come to the final set up that i'm gonna do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► mostly I was settling on using is not as a just a box and discs type of thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► close to that we're struggling think of any reason why would supply would set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► any kind of raid situation because none of the stuff that I'm using like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► reason you want rate is because you don't want down time but I'm not in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► type of environment I can be down for a day or two days and it's not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► as long as I don't lose data right so I don't need to I go I gotta put that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► at least a red one because what if one drive fails right all these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► our backups of things already have probably two other hard drives elsewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► in the house plus in the cloud right and for the few things that I have on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► that would only be on solid media files that I'm going to get there on my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► Pro now so they really are backups now but when I get my new Mac Pro with its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► internal storage a lot of only be the Synology and when that happens my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► solution is going to be to set up two volumes on the Synology one of which has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► all my media and one of its has a regular a backup copy of all the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► why would I just do a raid setup because if something goes wrong and accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► delete everything gets corrupted or something bad happened a back up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► something that doesn't change at the same time you change the primary so no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► RAID solution SHR whenever raid 10 raid 6 is going to save you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► accidentally delete all your files because it will delete them across all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► your desk them and you say I want those back so I will say you should have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► backup so I'm gonna end up giving in too many different slices maybe with a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► raid 0 things and they're probably almost no redundancy or data protection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► all my data protection is probably going to be by having a Synology backup to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► and of course timeline and all going to places that I back up so that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► a surprise to me too after all the stuff of thinking about different grades came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► to stuff I tried many of them and every time I look like this is really what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► want and it's one of the few things that made me finally by Carbon Copy Cloner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► which I bought four years ago has been using super duper but super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► doesn't to network dissing carbohydr corner does so I want to have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► volumes on the mass I can have a job that on any of my Mac civil smart copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► one super duper technology intelligently copy you know one of those volumes on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► the other to make a weekly or whatever backup my media drive instead of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► doing around 1850 media 10 thinking that somehow that's protecting him because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► wouldn't be an despite all times we talked about it none of us a try to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4136">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► as yet no still too afraid of it I mean I'm assuming it works fine but I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► this work so well why would I was like what is it that I can't do with it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► way it is installed kernel extension you know back please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► well i guess im already crashed print subscriber and probably just what do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► case you didn't respond to my crash landing but may still use back place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► my local Nikon homicides or agency like you know if you if you wanted to use one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► of the Synology Disk as like a Photoshop scratch disk or something like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► some some disc role where the network protocol overhead might be prohibitively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► slow for it or weird in other ways and you don't need to share it might work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► yeah there's a had the latest version of Scientologist software support for SST [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► some kind of SSD support like an SSD Drive I listened to it yet to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► catching a few other nasa's do this already also it's not the first to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► yeah it works you know similar to how you'd expect it basically not quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► few drive it basically uses an SSD whatever size you stick it in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► they can use it as a treat cash but I don't know in detail how that works and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► i was thinkin about would be for people who like massive aperture libraries or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► something and they use it with the iSCSI interface right and to then they get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► little bit extra performance because they're really you know thrashing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► well the difference though is that if it's it has been using it like fusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► drivers is interesting because it's not just a cash is actually moving blocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► around and saying this block that being actively read and written to now lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► here on the SSD and so economic reads has to be coming rights faster and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► it's ever too if it's kind of like a simple dumb cashing arrangement instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► where the data still lives on the spinning disks SSDs just like a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/4249">TS</a>]
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01:23:33 ◼ ► along with its supposed plan to become kind of like Apple and Google Google all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► yeah I think Ben Thompson the author of city Korea I think his theory is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► probably the correct one which is you know because Microsoft already had Nokia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► / Nakia however it's actually they already had them kind of around their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► finger for a long time for for the last few years ever since it was installed as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► CEO and you know they already had Nokia being their phone maker they are making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► was it exclusively Windows Phone smartphones at this point and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► making what appeared very good hardware for Windows Phone and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► Microsoft already kind of getting the milk for free there but I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► that's the same thing how well it might not be but we got to spend time as to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► why this is necessary is that you know Nokia was by by most people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► smarter than us in this area by most people's assessment is severe financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► problems they they were possibly going bankrupt and there was also some rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► that maybe they were considering just million toward phones just started using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► just just just to get more market share more more money coming in so if either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► of those were about to happen if Nokia's about either go bankrupt or start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► becoming an enter a manufacturer that would give Microsoft a pretty big reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► to help mountain step in there and gets more influence there because if Nokia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► stop making Windows Phones who the heck would you know there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► handful of other manufacturers and make them and they're all terrible like Nokia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► makes the only good ones and Microsoft still you know is is fighting hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► went well they're fighting for Windows Phone to still be a thing and not then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► I'm just gonna give in and start making Office for Android has a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► Nintendo parallels that we don't have time to get to today they're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► do that even if they should the prob not going to so I kind of had to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► theoretically if this is true that kinda had to do this and it might have played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► a role in why Steve Ballmer has been suddenly kicked out like maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► Nokia would only agree to it if if alot became the next Microsoft CEO Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► Ballmer opposed the idea on the board didn't there's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► possibilities here but I think that you know given given we've heard about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► Nokia's financial situation that sounds like a really plausible explanation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► and really if they want to be a company that makes awesome hardware and software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► together there is no getting around then making their own hardware and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► got a taste for with the surface and even with the Zune and of course with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► the Xbox you just can't it's not the same when it's another company doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► like it because that's that's the reason that the better products and apropos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► years even though they were dumping them in the market was that it was all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► house and Apple and Microsoft somehow is like trying to control you know a horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► by pair of rains that were you know like poking some believe the stick they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► try to influence the people who made PCs like please don't put crap we're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► strike strong arm them by requiring you know if you want the Windows logo for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► Windows XP you must include XY and Z you better put a sound chip on your things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► were embarrassed by the PC speaker and you know they had some influence on all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5216">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► the people but it's not the same as when it to you and so they'd see Apple iCal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► spine sure Apple can make a smart because they wanted their insurer Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► doesn't have all these crazy driver and support problems because they make 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► machines they know exactly what they need to support Microsoft second that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► like it's been it's like fighting with one arm tied behind your back and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► they need hardware expertise and this this could have been the perfect storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► like you know what i'm saying that if they didn't say these people all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► beautiful you know Lumia phones would be gone and if you're gonna buy someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► why would you not by the company it's making currently making the best Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► Phone right so it makes sense from all those different perspectives that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► are down in the guild is because they like it is going to be enough to save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► you really gonna make a difference there is another one year you know stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► deals that you had to make and that doesn't end up changing Microsoft anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► it seems like what's what is not let let's say you know in six months from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► now everything's all settled and they they own this massive division from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► tokyo makes other phones and they can finally start releasing the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► generation of Microsoft Lumia phones because they they bought the rights to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► use the trademark Lumia not the trademark Nokia couldn't have to buy all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► of Nokia the only public their phone hardware division [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► so suppose six months are now this is all in place and they release Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► Phone 8.5 or nine point out whatever it is on the new Microsoft Lumia whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► what's different then then compared to what what what does this really change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► what is an able besides just a continuation of the status quo which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► not working well what is an able enabled them to do things that Apple does like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► say the next version of Windows Windows Phone the point seven rounds up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► they want to do something with it and they say okay well this version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► Windows Home only run on this like crazy will only run on such-and-such hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5335">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► and they could even say it will only run on this new hardware in fact we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► to design this new hardware or going to custom pick the GPU and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► system-on-chip animal will build the entire thing as a unit kinda like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► building an Xbox with the hardware and software time together to work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► perfect synergy to give us exactly the GPU Peters we want a clock speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► memories and besides that we need to implement the software stack that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► plan to implement an SOS to make a match set instead of saying we're gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► this OS and this is the driver interface and will try to support your things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► maybe you should pick like they can make an integrated package that doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► to be like we make this over here you make this over there and then we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► meetings to work out an interface is because you never end up with an optimal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► situation like that you want something with low-cost this possible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► performs as well as possible in the small amount of power and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► like the bottom to be matched exactly the same way that Apple does with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► its phones like crazy and like microsoft does with the Xbox with a control the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► entire stack so that i think is is the wind that they're looking for doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5396">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► mean that the companies to pull it off but in theory that was not possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► before and now it definitely is possible it's just up to them to pull it off well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► sort of my recollection of the original Windows Phone seven suspects were that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► the heart respect the specifications were pretty specific to your point they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► weren't as specific as hey guys next door can you build exactly this but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► were pretty darn specific and it wasn't a lot of wiggle room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► but you couldn't you couldn't enter it on like they protect produced the spec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► and said you guys should build this and then they go off and build think and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► they do still have leeway to like pick their own camera battery sizes pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► materials orkut the screen technology and stuff like that like it's an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► designs its not like one team goes off and it says here as I was seven years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► with aspects have to be in the hands off with a paper to the harbor guys and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► built phone it's totally together it's a process moving in lock-step iterating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► over and over again like revising revising instead of always manufacturer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► makes a new s provides spec sheet the says Tehran the Southwest you need this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5456">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► hardware it even if the suspect has no variability it's not the same as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► having been designed all together and going through durations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► that's true but we will see what happens when only time will tell I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► together good pieces that I read personally were both been thompson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► we've heard you talk about one end and there's another that he himself actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► going to the chat which has some talk about the value something which I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► worth arising has some playing in some things going on in the board behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► scenes also a horse's take on it which had a delightfully Casey trolling title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► which I gotta find I think was like who bought whom who is buying home reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► blurb from that so in a way and acquisition of priorities is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► reverse acquisition the acquired is actually quote buying quote the acquire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► the acquired company's priorities and hence processes and resources become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► guiding principles in the acquirer it's what happens when Apple bought next and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► may have happened when Disney bought Pixar and whether or not you buy into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► the theory I thought was really interesting point we forgot the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► important part of course but has been made many many other people online that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► when she when you on the hardware company you don't get a $15 license fee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► for yo ass when they sell the phone like 300 bucks out of the $3,000 cell phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► service you got so you make a lot more when you say that the obvious thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► is going on said here but it's worth mentioning oh yeah that's i mean that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► am sure they wouldn't have even considered the possibility of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► oil but don't make much of a difference if no one buys them so I still think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► the respective finally you can you have a fighting chance of doing what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► does you know or what Samsung goes because even though michael simpson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► well they they don't control it control it but they kinda kinda like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► Samsung has working on their Android us because it's you know it's open source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► and they customize their us to various degrees so they are more masters of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► their feet then Nokia was busy imagine that I don't know what the deal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► pretty sensuous be Microsoft but I know Nokia previously had all the source to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► Windows Phone seven and eight and were able to sort of customized it I i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► I'm pretty sure they weren't allowed customers because they said we want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► to have the Windows Phone experience and don't don't change the UI to be like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► know the Motorola sent Skinner all those things that people do you know so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► it i guess i I can't think of anything less interesting to me at least trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► to figure out any more detail than we talked about trying to figure out what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► going on with Microsoft didn't like the whole value Act thing that sounds really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► interesting when Ben Thompson writes about it I would hate to be trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► more research on it though I can you imagine having to dig through you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► board stuff that it probably is actually I think the board entry part in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► politics part of it is the most impressive most interesting part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► entire deal but has the least are perhaps the most negative bearing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► success of the future companies with interest income like a political person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► like you wonder what happened in kind of Game of Thrones right but the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► interesting that gets the board bodes ill for the future of these companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► because of the stiff this deal is really about like was gonna be CEO and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► backstabbing and acquisitions and whose star is rising and falling in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► corporate ranks that is totally taking their eye off the ball and you do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► want any kind of drama like that or at the very least you want very intense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► very brief job drama leaving you to new regime that you know goes along smoothly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► but this is like a gigantic mess over there and the boardrooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► and I'm so we aren't there sitting through it all I do and with one quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► thing tweet from Japan's reno from few days ago which I think it's nail on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► reality check though you and I as consumers can only win of Microsoft and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► Nokia succeed competition only burns the crucible crucible hotter and pure and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► think that's dead on and we've all said that many times but if this does work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► out it did makes Apple work that much harder and Google work that much harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT02vbo/5707">TS</a>]
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