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Hello and welcome to episode six hundred and twenty of the Connected Podcast.
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This episode is brought to you by our fine sponsors, Fitbud and Revenue.
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My name is Mike Hurley.
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I'm just like one of you, and I have the pleasure of introducing the
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keynote chairman, his highness Federico Vicci.
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Hello Federico.
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Hello, Mike.
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How are you?
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Hello, hello.
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I'm I'm feeling great.
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Feeling great.
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Tired but good.
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Yes, we're all tired.
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Uh including our annual chairman, Stephen Hackett, who I assume is also tired.
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Are you tired, Stephen?
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I I am tired.
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I was looking at timery and I clocked twelve hours yesterday.
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I I had to stop time tracking because it just made me feel bad
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about myself.
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Keynote days are always hectic.
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And of course we have uh iOS and Mac OS, etcetera, coming out on
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So we're all rushing around, you know, you're doing screenshots, I'm screenshots.
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John is probably starting his Golden Gate review.
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Um John is almost done with his Golden Gate review.
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That's good.
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Any minute now, he's gonna get going.
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He's gonna get going.
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Power through the weekend.
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I can't wait to install Golden Gate.
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I'm super excited to install Golden Gate.
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Yeah, that's why I like I don't mess around with Macbeth's, like I just
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don't want that in my life.
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And I'm really excited to to install Golden Gate on Monday.
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You know it's actually you know you should have been on the beta.
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It's actually been more stable than Tahoe throughout the entire But I just it's
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a it's aggro I don't want in my life.
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And and I like to be excited about something for just in general.
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I like to be excited about a new operating system, right?
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Because like I've been using iOS the whole time and then Monday will come
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around and then I'd be like, well I've used iOS the whole time.
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But now I'll get macOS, so that'd be nice and new for me.
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Although I am also excited for app updates.
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Like app updates gonna start coming in and we're gonna see how good or
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bad Siri AI is at dealing with third party apps, which I'm excited about.
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Super, super exciting.
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Lots of stuff going on.
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But it is September.
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You know what that means.
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It is childhood cancer awareness month.
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And each September, those of us in the relay community and and our friends
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and people people out in the Apple world, uh, we come together to support
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Saint Jude Children's Research Hospital.
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And this childhood cancer awareness month, we are on our way to passing five
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million dollars raised as a community since 2019, which is absolutely amazing to me
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that we are are very close to that number.
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Uh so what does that number mean?
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What does that money do?
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Where does it go?
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Um well Saint Jude treats children from around the world without regard of where
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they're from, what they look like, what they believe, whether or not they can
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They treat them for free.
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And the research they do at the hospital, their campus here in Memphis is
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shared around the world.
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So you don't even have to be at St.
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Jude to benefit from Saint Jude.
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I got an email last week from somebody whose niece had a cancer diagnosis
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and she was treated elsewhere in the US.
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But the doctors told them, Hey, this research, like this protocol we're using was
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put together in conjunction with Saint Jude, which is absolutely incredible.
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They share that research around the world.
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Jude opened in 1962, back then childhood cancer was largely considered incurable.
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But since then, St.
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Jude has helped push push the overall survival rate in the US from 20%
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And they're not going to stop until no child dies from cancer.
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Every child deserves a chance to live their best life and celebrate everything every
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And that's what this campaign is all about.
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Mike, we've got some stuff scheduled for September and the end of the month.
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What do we have going on?
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Well one of the big things is not in September.
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It's in new September, extended September, which is Friday, October second, uh, which is
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the podcast a thon for Saint Jude.
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Uh it is gonna be Friday, October second from twelve PM Eastern to twelve
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Eastern on the Relay YouTube channel.
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We're all gonna be getting together.
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We've got an incredible theme this year.
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Loads of tons of stuff going on.
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We're gonna be hanging out for twelve hours and we're gonna be live streaming
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from the campus at Saint Jude.
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We will be closing out the fundraiser this year.
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Uh we're gonna be having a ton of fun playing a bunch of games
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and generally being foolish uh for helping raise money uh for Saint Jude.
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Sorry, it's gonna be awesome.
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Be sure to check it out.
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So please join us, go to Saint Jude.org/slash relay and you can donate.
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You can also set up a community fundraiser and raise money amongst your sphere
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of influence and you get access to a bunch of cool incentives if you
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You can also make a gift through a donor-advised fund and there's information on
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the page about employer matching.
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A lot of companies will match what you donate.
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And there's directions there about how to go about that.
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Um, it's great way to make your donation go further.
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So go to Saintju.org slash relay and check it out.
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And from the bottom of our hearts, thank you.
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Should we do the thing?
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We should do the thing.
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That's time.
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Some people are here for whether they like it or not.
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People are here for the thing.
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Some people are here begrudgingly for it.
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Um but but by and large they are here for it.
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The thing is me reading a document.
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The Rickies is a game that connected hosts play before Apple keynotes and at
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the beginning of a new year to predict future events.
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It's made up of three rounds.
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Each host makes two regular picks, followed by a risky pick.
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The Rickies, by design, values winning.
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Winners only shall advance.
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Gotta be good.
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There are two types of rookies.
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Today we are scoring our keynote Rikis.
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The winner is named the keynote chairman.
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That's current Federico.
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And this position is up for grabs today because we're scoring again.
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Hosts are introduced at the top of each episode according to our current titles.
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If you hold both positions, so keynote and annual, you're Ricky Benchman.
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And after the Rickies, we're going to play a game called the Flexies.
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The two games are separate, but they are related.
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Please stand for the reading of the rules.
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Each host gets to make two regular picks by default.
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Correct regular picks are awarded one point.
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The language used for regular picks must be finalized and agreed upon during recording.
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If a host loses first place via a coin flip, they earn a bonus
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pick for the next rookies.
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All bonus regular picks are worth half a point.
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And we're cashing in a bunch of those today, because this is a new
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Ricky picks have a more complex scoring system.
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Each host must make a pick with three supporting details.
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If you get all three details correct, you earn two points.
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Two details correct earn you one point.
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One detail correct, you earn zero points.
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And if you get three details wrong, all of them wrong, you lose a
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And points are only awarded based on the details, not the overall pick.
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Picks made for keynote rookies cannot be re-reused by the host who made them
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for the next keynote.
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All hosts are allowed to reuse picks previously made by others.
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For keynote rookies, the scoring window starts when the livestream begins and closes when
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the picks are scored, which is right now.
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Any information used in scoring must be publicly verifiable at the time of recording.
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Scoring is completed during recording and cannot be modified once an episode is complete.
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And the event of a tie, diced by PCalc, must be used in relay
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mode to pick a winner.
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In the case of a three way tie, Hosts all make their calls at
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the same time, with flipping continuing until the winner is named.
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Jason Snell previously had a lifetime ban on flipping any coins in relation to
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the Rickies.
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However, he attended and graduated CoinFlip University during the 2024 podcaston, so now he
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can flip a coin, albeit under direct supervision.
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The order of picks is set by previous performance.
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The winner of the previous associated game goes first, the previous loser goes last.
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Winners will be close will be recognized during the closing ceremonies.
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Past results can be seen at rickys.co and rikies.net.
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These sites also have pages about managing your own scorekeeping in your personal home.
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You may be seated.
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Could we create some kind of like personal scorekeeping hub?
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I I guess they are the personal school keeping hubs, right?
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I mean I think if you have a room in your house you want
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to dedicate to it, that could be your hub.
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Uh maybe a a mantle over your bed.
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Lots of good things.
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Would you have a little bit of an issue in the rules that we're
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gonna need to deal with next time that I discovered only while reading.
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But we will deal with that next time.
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Don't just be like there's an issue and then just don't share it.
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What's the issue?
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If If a host loses first place via coin flip, they earn a bonus
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regular pick in the next Rickies.
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That reads like you have to use it the next time.
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But the way we're operating right now is that you can use it whenever
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you want within the year.
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Oh, different.
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They're different types of bonus picks, man.
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Coin flip happens next time.
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Other ones, choose them.
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But how do you earn those other bonus picks?
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You know how.
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Do I know how?
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It's by having gotten things right in the annual.
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You just read it.
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I don't Oh yeah, I did.
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Okay, never mind.
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Maybe I skipped that paragraph when I read it.
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Yeah, I think here's the problem, Steven.
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You, me and all the listeners, no one's listening to the part where you
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read the rules anymore.
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That's why it's its own chapter.
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So people can skip it.
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Like it we just read it last week.
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No one's listening now.
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For a while I I w when I was editing the show, I would
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reuse the chapter.
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Just like I would just copy it out of last week's and put it
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But anyways, now we can start
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I guess I'm up.
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I said the new foldable iPhone does not have face ID.
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Yeah, it's um it's touch ID and Apple Watch Unlock, which I am really
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curious about.
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Because like my first reaction was, Oh yeah, it's gonna be touch ID, inconvenient.
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Sure, they showed off like the placement of the thumb and they thought about
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it and it should be fine.
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But still, over the past nine years we've gotten used to having face ID,
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which is just so convenient, right?
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Compared to touch ID.
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But then in the press release they mentioned and also I think in the
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video they said, Oh, you can also unlock it with your Apple Watch.
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Now if that's
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and good enough, I probably like, is that actually gonna be better than face
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Because there's latency.
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Well, and also I I mentioned this before.
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I've turned this back on again because I wanted to get the experience of
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unless they've changed it.
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On the on the m on the Mac, you mean?
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No, on my f on my iPhone.
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You can do it on the iPhone.
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Yeah, they added this was a COVID thing.
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They added this to deal this is one of the ways they did Mars
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Mac first time.
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So I turned it back on again because I was I wanted to just
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get a feeling for how often it happens to me.
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Because it does, right?
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Like your uh face ID fails or whatever and then and it tries to
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Now the thing with the with with the face ID phones is the watch
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unlock only ever occurs after a failed face ID, right?
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Like it i it can't find your face for whatever reason, so it will
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Now, if that's the case with the touch ID, it's like it's not an
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elegant experience because it takes time to happen.
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It's not like a media.
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Now they may have kind of re
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like organized the authentication method here that makes it faster, right?
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Because they're calling it out specifically.
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So maybe the iPhone Duo calls out to your watch more frequently and quicker
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as a way to to unlock.
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But at least with the current iPhones, like the seventeen Pro, like it is
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not a elegant experience for the Apple Watch unlock because the better one is
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So I we'll see how beneficial that is or not, but I guarantee you
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it's not gonna be as seamless as you want it to be no matter
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what happens.
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'Cause what you want is face ID and this ain't that.
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I I'm realizing now that I have a problem with all of these COVID
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I have completely forgotten about them.
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Like there's a It was a weird time.
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That was a strange time.
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There was a lot of weird stuff in technology going on.
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Like someone remind I was watching a listening to or watching a podcast recently
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and they they referenced the contact tracing thing.
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I had this moment a couple of weeks ago myself.
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Which that wasn't what they called was that what they called it at first
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contact tracing?
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Exposure notifications.
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Exposure notifications.
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No, I think exposure notifications is what it ended up being called because contact
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tracing made people think that everyone was being spied on.
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And it I somebody made this in reference to the idea of like Apple
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in the EU, I think.
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Because like I I think this was a time when like Apple tried to
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do this thing in collaboration with Google and governments got annoyed at them.
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But they were like, hey, we're just trying to do this thing, and it
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ended up being like a whole big mess.
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So there you go.
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Can we just take a quick pause for one minute because there's an alarm
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going on in the hallway?
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And I want to go turn it off.
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It's just someone's left a door open and it's it will probably go on
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for the entire show if I don't know.
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Yeah, that's what you think.
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We'll just we're just gonna hang out here.
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That's true.
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Maybe there's an alien.
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Federico, did you say anything about left handed use?
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It's weird, right?
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The only thing that gives me hope is that iOS does have support for
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flipping the UI.
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For example, when you use an Arabic language, I think.
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Um, they can shift to not just the text, but the entire iOS interface
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from Um like in the opposite direction.
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And um so in theory,
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it should be possible.
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Uh I don't know if if they've done it in time for the duo.
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We're talking about left handed people not being able to buy this phone.
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I still don't think that maybe this is the problem people think it's gonna
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be of anyway.
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Are we in the show?
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No, we're just here.
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We'd never stop.
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So like me leaving was not like a moment that everybody stops for a
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No, we start we were talking about left handed iPhone duo usage.
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That's a very strange way to produce a podcast.
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That's like I'm like, all right, can you remind tell me what happened?
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Fair enough.
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That's what we're doing.
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All right, my round one pick.
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The foldable is called the iPhone Ultra.
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There's been some discussion this week about what a future folding iPhone would be
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I'm putting a flag in the ground here, today, on September second, twenty twenty
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Bold, the iPhone Ultra, period.
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That is a very confident man.
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His name is Stephen Hackett, and he wrote this blog post on his website
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five hundred and twelve pixels
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on September the second, twenty twenty five.
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Why with a friend?
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French accent.
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Oh yes, yes.
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Olympic cells.
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I thought I would I thought I'd fancy it up a little bit.
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Stephen, how are you feeling?
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That's very good.
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You were so confident, man.
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I never wrote that.
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That's Oh did you not?
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I mean I've got it right here.
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In fact you you updated it yesterday, so That's not true.
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Uh would you would you also would you also read uh what a certain
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uh someone on this program said in January twenty twenty six?
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Where would I find that?
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It's further down in the document.
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His first detail of his Ricky for the annual
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is called the
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And you guys tried to make me change my mind so much.
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Y well one of you did.
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Probably still.
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When was this?
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I feel like you've created you've created this situation.
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This was in January and I had to fight, you know, for it.
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Wait, so hang on a minute.
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You're you're suggesting in the pick that you made, we tried to convince you
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of something we thought was wrong.
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I'm sure you did.
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At least in my mind that's how it went.
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But no, uh I mean obviously Steven it's not called the Ultra.
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And I'm just honestly like I mean beyond the the you know, the contest
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and the points, we'll get to that next year.
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I'm just kind of amazed that I pulled that name out of nowhere.
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No, nine months ago.
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We're in September.
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Um very happy with myself, actually.
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Um, I don't know.
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It's a great name.
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Uh, you know, for all the reasons that I said nine months ago, it's
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three letters it's short, it conveys the idea, it's two things in one.
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Um obviously in hindsight it goes well with Neo, you know, ne got Neo,
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Duo, you know, it's got a whole Sort of naming style thing going on.
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I think it's a lovely name.
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It is a good name.
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It's great name.
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I agree, it's a great name.
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A good name.
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I'm looking I'm currently looking through the transcript of that episode.
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Um and I've just I wanna play maybe from here.
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Can I do that?
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Yeah, let's see.
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'Cause basically there's been a lot of back and forth, right?
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There's conversation about other products.
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PowerBook Duo, uh MagSafe duo, Mac mini core duo.
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These are all coming up in the transcript.
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And it's come around to somebody says, Federico, good pull, I've come around to
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And I just want to see who this is, because whoever this is, Federico,
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this is the person that truly uh backs you.
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So should we see who that was?
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I think I think it's you, Mike.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, it's me, man.
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So Federic Albos always on your side.
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Steven's doing ultra over there.
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Who knows what he's doing?
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Thank you, Mike.
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Thank you, Mike.
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Appreciate it.
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But but just think how sick it would have been if I was right.
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No, because it wasn't that unique.
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So many people were calling it Ultra.
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I I think even back then, like in in January, uh maybe if you
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would have said it in January, that might have been like Pretty cool.
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Like January of twenty five?
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Yeah, because when w when did you write this article?
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September of twenty five.
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September of twenty five.
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Oh, I mean, yeah, January of twenty five.
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That would have been pretty, soon.
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That was going back some way, huh?
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What if I'd yeah.
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What if I'd written it in twenty seventeen?
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I mean, look, if in twenty seventeen you had even called you said Apple
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will make it a folding iPhone, it's called the iPhone Ultra, I would be
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very impressed even though it wasn't true.
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Maybe use your time travel powers for good, you know, not just I'm just
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happy that they didn't.
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I would have been so insufferable if they would have called it the ultra
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that I think we've All one really, like 'cause nobody has to hear me
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You were being a cry baby about it.
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I was gonna really complain about it because I would have been very upset.
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Um but at least the phone has mag saved, so I don't have to
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complain about that.
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Yeah my first round pick is John Tonus introduces the folding iPhone by saying
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we have one more thing.
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He was so excited, right?
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He was just like, oh and he did it on the Steve Jobs stage
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Pretty nice.
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Pretty nice.
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We talked a lot more about John Turnus in the pro show.
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If you're a member, you can listen to that or you can become a
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member and listen to it.
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It's just seven bucks a month.
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But uh he did a really good job, and I think Apple did a
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good job in here with like the right nods to legacy and customs and
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that sort of thing.
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I think it was very well handled.
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Without it f it didn't feel cringy or corny, like it felt authentic.
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was warranting.
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Like it warranted it.
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I think I I don't remember what it was now, but like I know
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Tim Cook did one once and it was like, What are you doing?
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Oh, Apple Music.
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We spoke about it, right?
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Apple Music was a one more thing.
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The worst one more thing.
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And and then Drake came out.
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Wasn't wasn't that the moment?
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Yeah, it was like an hour long.
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And then Drake came out on stage with an apple jacket.
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That's right.
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Nanny Q uh kissed the sky.
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No time for keynote.
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What a time.
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Different keynote.
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This is the one Eddy Q danced in at the laptop.
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They were really filling for time in that keynote.
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He blew the kiss to the dead Steve Jobs the first time they were
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on the Steve Jobs.
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I will never forget it.
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It wasn't it wasn't oh good okay.
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Which would have been the iPhone ten event.
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That does make more sense because it really holding on it's many years later
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and he's still like Yeah, okay.
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Good good one.
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Okay, at the end of round one, Federico has one point, Mike has one
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point, and I have zero points.
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Okay, round two.
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Uh there is no telephoto camera in the foldable.
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Main camera and ultra-wide.
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It's uh I read today that it's basically the same camera uh as the
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seventeen E, which uh you know
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I mean, I know that I will suffer.
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I know that I hey maybe I will become one of those people with
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with two iPhones and use the the iPhone handoff feature if my carrier supports
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it in Italy.
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What what do you what do you mean the same camera as the seventeen
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Isn't it the same camera?
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Uh where did I see this?
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Uh what's it called?
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iPhone Duo Mac rumors maybe iPhone Duo, same camera as
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seventeen E.
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iPhone two hours ago.
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iPhone Duo as similar main camera to seventeen.
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According to Apple's text page,
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well, so it's not a match, but it's pretty similar.
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Not even to the seventeen?
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No, the seventeen E.
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Seventeen Centini.
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It's uh, you know, numbers, whatever it means.
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Like stop one point six, you know, twenty-six Twenty six millimeters.
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But this whole thing with the numbers in the camera has gotten out of
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I mean, yeah, I understand why.
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If you know what it means, more power to you, you you must love
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these numbers.
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Um to me, this is the same problem.
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I th so let me let me just say this.
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They should make a consumer version of this that it's like good, better, best.
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Like use simple terms, simple words, icons, I don't know, symbols, whatever to indicate
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like I don't wanna read like a bunch of algebra if I wanna take
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a good picture with my iPhone, you know, because I don't know whatever this
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Obviously, I wanna take great photos, but I'm not a photographer.
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It reminds me of the problem that companies like OpenAI have, for example.
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When they need to show you all these settings, all these configuration flags.
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And I think that they are landing in a pretty good spot.
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Like if you are a power user, like I can open codecs in my
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terminal and I can, you know, I can understand all the terminology.
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I can understand all the options.
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In Chat GPT, for regular people, they simplify it.
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It's the same technology, but it's presented in a consumer-friendly way.
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This the camera It it's getting out of hand for regular people.
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Like you show you show somebody.
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Yeah, but I think you just made the example though, right?
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That like what uh the things that open AI show, I don't
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But that's but that's what I mean.
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I uh but like in the same way that y there are camera professionals
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that understand what they're saying, but Yes, but Apple is only is only designing
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That's my problem.
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Like you open the camera app and it's like it's a bunch of numbers,
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a bunch of symbols.
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Like I I have no idea what that weird F stands for.
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I mean, it I had a similar thing where they were showing the example
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photos and and it's like, Look how good this one is because of this
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and I'm like, Yes, sure.
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It does look like a great photo, but like I don't know why it's
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a good photo.
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But I also accept though that that part's not for me.
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It's just not for me.
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I cannot believe that I'm saying this, but Bear with me, like they should
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put like you know how in Chat GPT or in Cloud whatever the you
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have like the reasoning slider
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and it's like like light, medium, smart, uh extra intelligent.
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Well something like that.
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No the way to show it.
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It's it's a photo.
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Just show what it would be with a different set set of settings.
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That UI gets out of hand in a hurry.
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Like no a UI.
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Like show me in the keynote this is what the image is with this
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and this is what the image is now because of we've added this and
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Maybe look look it look, it's a tough problem because because like I understand
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why you're doing this.
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You want to show that the iPhone can be a serious camera.
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And you need to you need to prove your worth to professionals who know
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if you are a fraud or not, right?
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And so you need to speak their language.
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But there is also the realistic situation, which is that this video and this
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product is not for camera professionals, right?
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Like it is actually for everyone, but they spend a lot of time with
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this camera jargon.
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Which is hard to follow.
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And it's yes.
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I mean it's not actually a professional camera.
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It's just a camera that professionals can use.
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Is it necessary that when I tap on the one X and two X
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buttons on my phone?
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Actually, no, just the one X.
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I see twenty-four millimeters, twenty-eight millimeters, th thirty five millimeters.
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Like what's well but at least when you do that though, you see something
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Like that's the benefit there.
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So it's like it doesn't really matter what the label is, if you get
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an indication of what it's doing.
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You see that it is doing like minimal zooms in each of those kind
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of uh uh uh uh things.
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If it just gave you like a drop down, right?
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It's like just choose one of these.
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So that would be a nightmare UI, I think.
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But like at least that is it's why it's like in the phone itself,
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when you use these things, it is more understandable if you can see that
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something is occurring.
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I think it becomes difficult in the keynote when they're like throwing these numbers
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at you and they have these like info boxes on the right hand side,
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Which give a bunch of readouts.
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And it's like I I can't really do anything with this information.
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There are people that absolutely are excited about it, but like this this part
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of the marketing story I think gets really lost.
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But there is also a scenario where it's like well, that is the exact
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point that they like they they don't want to give you comparisons because like
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how different is it?
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Can the regular person even see the difference anyway?
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Like and that's probably how they end up in this point.
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So I mean twenty seven does add the control customization, but I agree with
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you, most people don't know what those controls do.
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Yeah it's like great, give me the controls, but like I don't know how
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to use them.
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Like I I don't know what they're what they do.
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What if in the camera app a little character came out, like maybe shaped
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like a paper clip so you could see through him.
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It's like, Hey, it looks like you're trying to take a macro photo.
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Let's do this.
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Just don't Apple you can have that one for free.
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Should vibe code it.
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Make your own camera app.
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Could be camera.
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Uh number two, round two, my pick.
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The Apple Watch series twelve includes a ceramic option.
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I'm the board.
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I got it immediately.
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White, obviously.
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But it's not white.
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It's like creamy Yeah off white.
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Steven, yeah there is a whole spectrum of white.
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Like you've painted houses before.
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Like you know.
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White is not white.
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There's like a thousand white very fascinating comment coming from you, Stephen, of all
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With all the computers that you've collected over the years, you know that there's
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I just I I wanted to love it and I I want to see
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it in person.
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I really do.
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Maybe in person I'll fall in love with it.
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But the the other color, like the blue navy, it is not for me,
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but I like the way that it looks.
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I think See, I never would have thought you would have wanted the white
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Oh man, back in the day, back when I was young and cool, stainless
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steel apple watch white band.
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That was my look for years.
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Yeah, but yeah, but I'm talking about a white Apple Watch not a white
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Yeah, but I just but it's, you know, maximum I it's something and it's
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something different, right?
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Like I usually bounce between iPhone colors so it feels new, right?
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I'm just trying to feel something.
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Yeah, no, I got it.
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Federico, are you aware of the little there's a little uh there is actually
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a a I don't know why they're doing it this way, but there is
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a cus there is an option you're supposed to choose, but they don't make
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it clear with the band choice.
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Do you know what I'm talking about?
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Did you see his text message that he had to step away for a
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No, obviously not.
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Okay, now it's me and you now it's our turn to do it.
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I hate this.
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This is not a good way to make a podcast.
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You just keep look letting people leave and the conversations carry on.
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That's how the real world is, man.
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You're talking to somebody at a party and then you sort of float over
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and talk to somebody else.
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Listeners, I apologize 'cause I've asked this question and then in a minute when
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Federico returns, we're gonna ask it again.
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Federico, there is a choice that you're supposed to make with the with the
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Apple Watch.
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Do you know what this choice is and did you make it?
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I think I know what you mean.
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You're supposed to get a specific watch band so that you get the ceramic
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Did you I don't
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I don't know.
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So the sand sport band has a ceramic piece.
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That's what I got.
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Yeah me too.
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I I didn't know and I found out during upgrade.
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But it's like this was the obvious choice for me because what I wanted
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was to emulate the old one where it came with the white sport band
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with the ceramic pin.
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I think I did right.
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Hold on, hold on.
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Uh this is the one to go for if you're gonna go for sports.
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Apple store.
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Sport band send, yes.
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It was obviously the best one.
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It is, yeah.
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It's it's the best choice.
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I I'm looking forward to going to the Apple store to look at other
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bands 'Cause like I'm not really a sport band wearer anymore, so I want
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to look at some other stuff that they've got and see what else works
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But like I this was the band that I had to get if I
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was gonna gonna get this one.
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The uh mini skews of the ceramic have been pushed out to October now.
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And I even if I wanted one, which I I I want to see
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it, but uh I can't have it for pickup at my Apple store.
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The closest Apple store that it will let me pick up and store at
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all is like three hours away.
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Maybe it saved you them.
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Maybe maybe maybe it did.
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Um I did buy Mary a watch, but the aluminum one.
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Which I'm actually excited about.
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She likes just like the silver aluminum, like the the simple look.
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But she always gouges the screens in hers.
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And right now is like a huge I I d I cannot believe the
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screen's not broken.
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She's tough on stuff.
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I mean she's, you know she's a teacher.
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She works out.
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She does all these things.
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Uh anyway, so I haven't told her, but I got her a series twelve.
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Cause the aluminum now has the ceramic shield two on the front.
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So I think it'll hold up much better for her.
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Which is a great addition to the aluminum because for forever, if you wanted
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the aluminum due to price or weight, because it's way lighter than the others,
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you were stuck with the ion glass, which wasn't as robust.
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And now you kind of get the best of everything.
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If the aluminum, checks the boxes for you.
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Is it my turn?
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At least one iPhone has a variable aperture camera.
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So there was some late rumors that this was only gonna come to the
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pro phone, uh, but it's actually the Pro Max, I should say, but it's
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it's on both.
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And so I mean trusted to see.
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Like this is one of these things where like I keep trying to understand
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what variable aperture would do and every time I learn it, I say it
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and then someone corrects me.
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Um, and so I'll just wait I'll just wait and see uh what it's
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But I'm hoping that it will just provide me with better photos um which
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is a problem, right?
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Like if the the Pro Max provides better photos, just makes the the duo
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more complicated as a as a device to try and make the one that
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you want in your life.
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Um, but I'm also in like really infused by the battery life claims, right?
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That the iPhone I don't think we haven't got this anywhere in the pics,
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I could just say this now.
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I don't think anyone spoke about battery life.
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That the eighteen pro has as good a battery as the seventeen pro Max.
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That is awesome.
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Like super good.
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So yeah, uh colors.
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Should we talk about the colors now?
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Of the oh no, that's coming up.
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That's coming up.
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I do have some real time I do some real time follow-up just to
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save myself.
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Zoe points out the titanium and ceramics still have the sapphire crystal, so it
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is different glass still, but the aluminums is much better than it was.
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That's trying to get to.
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I apologize.
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Variable aperture.
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The aperture varies.
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It was it was a good program.
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I like that there's just like a little moving thing inside of the I
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think that's fun.
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Like there's just there's just some stuff going on in the camera, like it's
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moving around.
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I feel like that's interesting.
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Can't um I can't wait for the eye fix it tear down of that
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and like see those little things move around Yeah.
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Gonna be awesome.
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Um at the end of round two, Federico has two points.
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I have one point.
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Mike has two points.
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Taking it home.
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let's count them up.
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So Steven and I we had two bonus picks each mic had one.
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Um I said we do not see the base model iPhone eighteen.
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Nowhere to be seen in fact.
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Uh but we know how much it's gonna cost.
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Yeah, they did that they did the thing that they've been doing for the
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past couple of years where doing the keynote they only mentioned the eighteen pro
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and at the very end they said you're eighteen pro and eighteen pro max.
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I th I remember the first time they did this, they cut like we
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were confused confused and and when you're thinking like uh what's happening to the
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pro max pro galaxy like no nothing is happening to the pro max they
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just m say 18 pro and mention the bigger model at the end yeah
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um yeah but yeah so realistically they're saving the eighteen, eighteen E and Air
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Two for the spring, which makes sense, you know.
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And until then they're all a hundred dollars more.
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I mean it could have been worse.
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I mean sure it's it's a hundred dollars.
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And it goes I saw that it goes it go it goes way up.
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Like the price hike goes way up the more storage.
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But you pay more the more you will get.
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Like I saw somewhere if you purchase the two terabyte model, it's like $300
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Yeah, so yeah, uh, you know.
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But also, hey, if you buy the two terabyte phone, you're a photographer, you're
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happy about the aperture and f stops and whatever.
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I think look, I think if you were buying a two terabyte iPhone, I
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don't think this is if you were already spending that money before,
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the fact that it's increased by more, like, I'm just going to assume that
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most people can't do it.
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Let's assume that if you let's assume that if you regularly buy a two
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terabyte iPhone on an annual basis, you you have the disposable income to make
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I think it's a reasonable assumption.
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And I think that that's how they've scaled it.
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I mean it's it's interesting that both the pro and the regular phone start
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at a hundred dollars more, but I think that that is just a sign
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of what people are buying.
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People are buying one of those instead it's gone up by a hundred.
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And I think all things considered $100 is a good price increase.
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We're gonna have to have had one.
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It's a number that makes sense.
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And the watches stayed the same.
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Um, and we'll get to to my bonus pick here, but when the prices
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were the same they called it out.
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Like I noticed several times they were like, and it's the same price as
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the previous one.
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Um I don't envy any company dealing with Ramageddon, that's for sure.
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Um, so Frederick, are you pick up a half point there.
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My first bonus pick, the ceramic Apple Watch Series 12 starts at $7.99, $100
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more than the Series 11 titanium.
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So a couple of things happened here.
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One people reminded us that the first ceramic watch was like many hundreds of
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dollars more than the than the it was a series.
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And then uh I missed it by a hundred bucks.
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So it's two $200 more than the titanium.
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It's $8.99 for the 42 millimeter and 949 for the 46 millimeter.
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So you can you can spend some money on an Apple Watch.
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Um, but I I was a little short of the goal.
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I did spend some money on an Apple watch.
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But I but I really want it and so put my money where my
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heart is, and that is a ceramic Apple Watch.
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Uh my bonus my singular bonus pick, which I didn't, is the starting price
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of the eighteen pro is higher than the seventeen pro.
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A hundred bucks.
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That's higher.
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I also said there is a new color on the iPhone 18 Pro line.
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Fumble of the year, right here.
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How can you go from the 17 pros colours
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to these where it's like is that blue?
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Who could tell?
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And by the way, red, you know, it's like what are we doing?
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Like what I don't like it.
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I don't like the colors.
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They're not good.
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They brought the black one in, which is I actually appreciate that.
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Like it looks nice if you if I were like that.
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If I were buying one, I would do black.
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But if I were.
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You're not buying this phone?
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You what you what were you thinking?
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What up staying on the action air?
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I had no idea how to say burgundy in Italian.
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I had to look it up.
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How do you say it?
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That's a completely different thing.
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That's not even class.
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Is that how you said wine then?
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It's a it's a French region.
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Yeah, yeah, it's a place in France.
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But it's also a wine.
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Yeah, the wine the wine region.
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But like so if you were drinking that in Italy you would call it
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was it Borgogna?
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Like Bologna?
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V let's say Vino uh Borgogna Vino della Borgogna, yes.
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Oh, and I guess it's red.
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Oh, I get it.
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Oh, now I get it.
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Oh, I get it now.
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Federico's like these two completely separate things, you know, it's like they called it
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Burgundy and they chose this color.
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Like not all thinking they're my own.
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How could it be related?
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Are you getting it?
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This is not disappearing.
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By the way, Federico glaciers, they're kinda blue, you know?
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Now I get now I got it.
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Now I got it.
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Space black, you know.
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Silver, obviously.
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Uh silver, like the metal
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Imagine that.
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Imagine that.
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The glacier could have been so much more.
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So much more.
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If they were gonna go with they should have just lent in on the
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blue more, like I think.
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I I it's weird to me that they went 'cause last year they had
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like two colours and they were very saturated colours, right?
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So that you like the orange and the blue.
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They were very bold colors.
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And I just find it a shame that they went very bold again.
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In a color I don't like, which is the problem.
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I d I'm I'm not a fan of the burgundy.
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And then the blue is just like
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it f honestly feels like what they used to do rather than what they
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have been like what it felt like they'd started to do so.
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I'm just a little bit disappointed.
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It it does feel like a bit of a step back.
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Okay, my second bonus pick.
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The iPhone Air is not updated.
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We'll see it in the spring, hopefully.
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It it it you know, and they didn't say anything about them, right?
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They said, Oh, we've updated our whole line.
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It's like, well, just the price.
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Um, I am curious if we will see this at all in their quarterly
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I don't think we will.
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One, the pro phones sell more on the front end, right?
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Because they're the enthusiasts.
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And you're selling a two thousand dollar phone, Which will obviously move the the
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the earnings more than an A.
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Stephen the iPhone Air is not affecting the earnings.
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I meant the like the the not updating the mainline phone.
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I forgot to do something yesterday, which is look up the Italian prices of
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the iPhone Duo.
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Oh do it live.
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I know it's bad in Australia.
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I've seen some complaints.
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Is it Um okay, starting with the two fifty-six version, that would be two
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thousand three hundred and sixty-nine euros.
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Then two thousand six hundred and nineteen.
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The one terabyte, three thousand one hundred and nineteen, and the two terabyte, this
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is just heartbreaking, three thousand eight hundred and sixty-nine Euros.
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That is four thousand four hundred and ninety-seven dollars.
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I think I just got a heart attack.
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That's yeah brutal.
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I mean, it's not that different in the UK either.
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So the the the two terabyte is three thousand one hundred and ninety nine
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pounds, which is four thousand three hundred dollars.
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I mean we have sales taxes.
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Mike, you could fly to New York and buy this phone for less money.
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You are correct.
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Actually, yes.
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I could I could I could in fact do that.
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Except obviously I pay the customs.
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You know what I mean?
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I obviously I pay the taxes when I come home.
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You just have it in your pocket.
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You have it in your pocket.
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You don't tell anybody.
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both times I've been to your country, I've just walked in.
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Like no one's checking anything.
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Well, you don't need to pay the taxes because you don't live here.
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You'll be fine.
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Well, I'm not gonna get the two terabyte iPhone duo anyways.
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No, no one needs it.
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Um things have taken a turn in the scoring.
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Federico, after the regular picks and bonus picks, has three points.
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For the first time, two and a half points.
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Uh if anything, I am a trailblazer.
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Um, and I'm I'm I'm I'm in the game.
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I mean you're in the game just because you can't be eliminated, you know?
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That could happen.
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Um and I I will I will say I like the half points.
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My little system I've used for keeping score within a paper notebook is not
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really conducive to half points.
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I gotta figure that out, but we're getting there.
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Um If only there were digital scorecards.
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If only there was some sort of way to make software.
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But But it's literally possible.
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Or if there were websites.
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Or well, okay, so um I didn't want to say it, but Ricky's dot
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co has this wrong.
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It actually makes bonus points worth one bonus picks worth one point.
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No, it's bonus points around bonus rounds.
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That sounds right.
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No, it's not.
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That sounds right.
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Didn't you say they the they are the the the Oh no, it was
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I think websites of record, but that was nine to five Mac and Mac
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That was from a previous uh previous iteration.
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Previous thing.
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We gotta move to risky picks.
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As a reminder, you're not scored on the pick, you're scored on the details.
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Drop the beat.
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I said Wow, Steven.
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Oh I don't know.
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Look, it's proud of that or not.
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What do you think?
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Oh, it's do you think he wishes he didn't say it?
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But like now he can't remove it.
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You know Did you guys see that there was like a DJ set at
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Apple Park yes?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Um disclosure of what?
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Do you know the DJ?
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You cannot undo your previous I am you take money from the DJ?
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Is big DJ paying you, Mike?
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Can we do something, Mike, about this?
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I'm not sure we can because he is recording the call and and stuff
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So there's not really much we can do to get rid of that.
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Any anyway big anyway comma.
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The foldables software goes beyond simple open and closed states.
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Condition one.
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There will be support for quote unquote tabletop mode with specific UIs for it.
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So yes, that that's a yes.
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It's in every single example that they showed off.
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Number two, users can peek through at one side of the inner display by
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slightly opening the device.
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Um yes, and like I mean obviously Apple didn't so d this could have
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been debated, I I think this condition to an extent.
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Let's put a pin in this for you know for uh Okay.
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In a minute.
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Um number three.
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Standby will support a tent mode when the iPhone is charging.
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Uh not only when the iPhone is charging, but also when it's charging.
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So yes, they shut off standby, uh completely rethought standby for uh basically this
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hands-free kind of usage.
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Um I think the coolest shot of that was the alarm clock where the
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inside screen like glows orange.
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However, who is putting their phone on their bedside table and not charging it?
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Also sitting it on their side on its side.
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I have a cat.
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No You kn you know, Mike, sometimes this happens to me uh that like
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I realize that I'm falling asleep with my phone and it just Yeah, but
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that's fine.
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But this person has arranged their phone into a tenth.
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Maybe you are maybe maybe you are a very functional half sleeper or something.
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Could be I don't know.
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So the condition number two.
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Uh users can peek through at one side of the inner display by slyly
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opening the device.
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I mean the whole thing that is going viral now is the animation that
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Apple has designed.
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I think because of that animation, you get this point.
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Yeah that's what I think.
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This is partly because I need to admit to something.
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I am obsessed by this animation.
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Oh, it's so good.
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For 24 hours, it is all I can think about.
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And I I d cannot stop watching videos on Instagram of people opening these
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I am obsessed by it.
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It's one of the most impressive things I've ever seen from like a little
00:52:28
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It's unbelievable.
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And I have a theory about some of the thinking that went into how
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they modeled this the look of it.
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What it reminds me of is eyesight.
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It reminds me of the eyesight thing in the Vision Pro.
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That like blurriness of the way that the eyes look, it's got a similar
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kind of look to it.
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Like when you open it.
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It cuts it kinda goes a weird blur and like anyway, this is not
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that's not an important thing.
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But nevertheless, I am just like I cannot stop thinking about this animation.
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It's w it's so impressive.
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If if you think about it, it's the most uh skewomorphic thing that Apple
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has done in a while.
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Um it looks like magic.
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It looks it actually looks like magic.
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It's unbelievable.
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I got this funny text from OTJ today.
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Um where is it?
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Let me scroll up.
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I already feel bad for him, you know?
00:53:20
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He sent me a link
00:53:23
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uh about this animation
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and he said exactly why Apple was never going to reverse course on liquid
00:53:31
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I mean yeah that's it.
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Like that's the whole thing.
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Well I will take it a step forward.
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So the entire UI of the duo in general.
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Like the entire thing that I wrote about last year, about liquid glass, like
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set aside the glass.
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Just think of just think about the liquid and think about how it's minimizing
00:53:50
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Without that UI, there's no iPhone duo.
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And the movement.
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The fact that you know like your tab bars become buttons and they go
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over to the right hand side.
00:53:58
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Like like all of this was needed for them to be able to produce
00:54:03
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But how do we love to complain about Liquid Glass?
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But but I also feel like we all knew that though anyway, right?
00:54:09
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Like I think we all knew that they would gonna be doing a big
00:54:13
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redesign partly to support this product, but people just didn't like it.
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And I would just like to say, one of us did not complain about
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liquid glass.
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I have do not c I've I've never had a problem with it.
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I had the o I think the only positive review on Liquid Glass last
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Well, if I would have written my thoughts down, it would have been b
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Actually I did.
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Uh I did I did write 'em down.
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I wrote something on my blog about how much I liked it when everyone
00:54:37
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was upset about it.
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Uh anyway, what was I saying?
00:54:41
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So in addition to the animation, that is absolutely beautiful, whatever they're doing, uh,
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there's also the fact that you can replicate this yourself if you are a
00:54:52
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And you want to enable uh this kind of functionality.
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Uh there's a couple of things.
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Uh the system can monitor the state of the hinge, and there's a continuous
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angle API, which is exactly what I said uh last week these code references
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that were found all the way back in june they're actually developer sessions that
00:55:14
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you can watch now on the Apple website which are really good.
00:55:17
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They're really good.
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Yeah they show off these funny examples like you can you can put together
00:55:22
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like a little guitar playing app and you do you do like you use
00:55:26
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the two screens to do like the whammy effect of the guitar.
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Like it's really funny.
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And but but that's what you can do.
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You can have your app react.
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To the state of the foldable device and the uh sort of the proportion,
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whatever you want to call it, the angle of the two screens.
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So I think I think we are about to enter a really fun era
00:55:49
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of some developers having fun with this idea.
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Um, especially when you come, I think it's gonna be like um it's this
00:55:58
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killer recipe, I think this very moment of this brand new device and vibe
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I think there's gonna be an explosion of silly apps for the iPhone duo.
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And I'm gonna and I'm gonna get all of them.
00:56:11
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To be honest.
00:56:12
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You'll be pitched all of them, you'll download all of them, and you'll try
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Uh so I wanna note at this moment that not only has Federico clean
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I think this is probably the highest scoring performance in Ricky's history.
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Five points because of the bonus picks.
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So bravo, Federico.
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I mean, you really, really desperately wanted to retain that title, it seems.
00:56:39
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I mean I'm glad I s looking down at my flexes, I'm glad I
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switched it.
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I'll say shame for the passion, but you know, I say, you know, I
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don't know what to say about such a thing.
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Some some uh we can't go any further without talking about
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Apples cases for this thing or case, I guess, looks absolutely bananas.
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Um the folio has a kickstand.
00:57:09
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Federica, how excited are you?
00:57:11
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I am incredibly excited but also do not understand the product that they are
00:57:19
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Why do they include the the cover for the front screen?
00:57:23
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It's like a s it's like a smart cover for an iPad kind of
00:57:27
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thing it's just like it's covers screen.
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I don't know why they're doing this either.
00:57:29
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And I've just seen sell me the back part with the kickstand.
00:57:34
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Yeah, I've seen some videos and like it is a whole case.
00:57:37
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It has a an expandable part in the middle between these two, which is
00:57:41
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So the the plastic case is two pieces and you put one on the
00:57:44
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front and one on the back.
00:57:45
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The folio case has a kind of expanding spine in the middle of the
00:57:49
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two um that like retracts and expands as you open and close the phone.
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Uh and you're supposed to just like f flip the thing round to the
00:57:58
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back when you're using the the front screen.
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It's a it is a peculiar product, I think.
00:58:03
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Also it's tech woven.
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Tech Woven lives on.
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Uh I expect there will be lots of uh lots of lots of kickstand
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like products uh that will be available on the worker.
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I think this is a caseless phone though, like the air is.
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Good luck everybody.
00:58:25
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So I showed my wife the duo video last night.
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Like to just get her opinion on things, right?
00:58:32
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Like colors and and uh features and whatnot.
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And I fully expected to show her the duo thing and her to tell
00:58:39
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me that it was stupid and that no one needed no one needs it.
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That no one needs a phone that's really an iPad.
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And the opposite occurred.
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She was like, This is really cool.
00:58:50
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And now she she winced at the price.
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But then she was like, Well, if you don't buy an iPad and you
00:58:56
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just have one device, like, pretty cool.
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And so not what I expected.
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She's not interested in it for her, but I think when I get one
00:59:06
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in next month that she will definitely want to spend some time with it.
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Really surprised me.
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Really surprised me.
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Yeah, you said about the iPad.
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None of you reacted to the TikTok that I sent you.
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Well, I wanted to save it for the show, actually.
00:59:19
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I'm glad you brought it up.
00:59:21
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So Uh so Apple's back at it and they posted a TikTok and it
00:59:25
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is just a like a it is it is just a table with a
00:59:29
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meal on it and a candle and there's uh an iPhone sitting on one
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side and an iPad mini sitting on the other side and it says iPhone
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Duo, the making of
00:59:41
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It's the whole thing.
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And it's just the candles just moving.
00:59:45
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There's some music playing.
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Man, I r I respect the TikTok marketing team at Apple so much.
00:59:52
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It's brilliant.
00:59:53
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It's brilliant.
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They're doing the thing.
00:59:58
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Okay, so Federico, clean sweep, five points.
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Now it's my turn.
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Apple introduces a new expanded home initiative.
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A home pod with a display is introduced at $249.
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The Apple TV is updated with a remote that supports FindMy.
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Apple talks about improved threat support.
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Okay, that's all wrong.
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So you reckon they're gonna have another event?
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I I think if there were Macs, I think you could see Macs, iPad's
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I think that's definitely possible.
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I was wondering like
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do they have another event where they show off Max home stuff and the
01:00:39
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iPhone Duo again?
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Could be hey it's shipping or if it's afterwards like hey there's been out
01:00:47
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maybe like here's some third party developer experiences that have been produced for the
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for the product, da da da da da.
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You know, because it's coming out in a month, right?
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And so I could see that.
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'Cause I just I feel like this home stuff is like it's out there.
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It's like right there.
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Okay, so my mine was the folding phone has touch ID.
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That's congratulations to me, I got it right.
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Um, but also offers a new version of face ID powered by just cameras.
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Apple says this is powered by Apple Intelligence and is a beta.
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They publish information it shows it's whatever.
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None of it's right.
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Um look, I was very confident this wasn't the case.
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But like if I was right though, you know?
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It would have been so good.
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And sometimes you've just gotta you gotta shoot your shot with these.
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And I did, and I failed spectacularly.
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But my other pick wouldn't got me any points either, so you know.
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so that means at the end of the Rickies,
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Federico has five points.
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one and a half points.
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I have half a point.
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Congratulations.
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I'm just happy not to lose because I've been on a bit of a
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losing streak.
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So Yeah, no, I got I got I got I got killed.
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I'm first place loser, you know?
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That's right.
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That's it's a good way of thinking about it.
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I'm happy with that.
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So uh congratulations Federico.
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Your streak continues.
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Absolutely mad lad.
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Yeah, it feels good.
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Uh I I don't think I ever And with this new format, I I
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never got like the all the three conditions
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So yeah, that that feels nice.
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My as w as the keynote went on, I was like, you know, I
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watch these things with this document open.
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It's like, oh, oh God, there's so much green next to Federico's name.
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So yeah, your annual pick is looking good too.
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Um you got two of the three.
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yeah, because it's yeah yeah uh Federico.
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Yeah it might happen, right?
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It might happen.
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It might actually happen.
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I know someone who doesn't want it to be an event.
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You could be the benchman again.
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I may ac uh where where can we hold on?
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Uh annual twenty twenty six.
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I may actually have a shot.
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Of the consolidated all total title?
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All all the four titles.
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You could that that would be unprecedented, right?
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That's never happened.
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I mean uh I I can already grade one of my flexi.
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I cannot believe that I I'm sorry that I'm skipping ahead.
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I got a flexi for the annual twenty twenty six predictions, a case option
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for iPhone Duo made by Apple as a kickstand.
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I mean what good
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Anyway, we'll we'll see in general.
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I'm looking forward to that.
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Yeah, that's that's I hope you can do it.
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I really hope you can do it.
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That would be brilliant.
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Case option for the iPhone doer made by Apple has kicked saying it's perfect
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The Flexies is a game held after each edition of the Rickies.
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It consists of a series of additional picks in relation to the upcoming Apple
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event or year.
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Scoring is completed separately from the main game, but like the Rikkies, the order
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of picks is set by the results of the previous game and ties will
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be broken using dice by PCalc.
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Please lie down as the rules are read.
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Host must make a minimum of five flexi picks.
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Each correct pick is awarded with one point.
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Wrong picks do not remove any points, and no partial points may be awarded.
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The winner is determined by comparing the percentage of correct flexies made by each
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The winner can use their chosen title as long as they are the winner.
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Federico shall be known as Prince Flexi and is known as King Flexi when
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having both won the keynote and annual games.
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Mike has chosen Duke of Fuxington and Archduke Fuxington.
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I am the Attorney General of Flexi, and I use the title Secretary of
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Deflex when necessary.
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Loser of the Flexies must compensate the winner of the Flexies by donating to
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a charity of the winner's choice.
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The amount of the donation is twenty-five dollars per wrong flexi made by the
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The money must be donated on air.
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If someone holds all four titles, they are allowed to choose their own.
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You may be seated.
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I get to go first.
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John Turnus is in a dark t-shirt.
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Does a long sleeve shirt count?
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Can you describe a t shirt to me, please?
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I mean you can have a long sleeve tee.
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I think it's kinda like a sweater kind of thing.
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Oh what wait wait, a sweat the t shirt or just the sweater?
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Uh uh uh John Turner's announcing.
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No, it's not a t shirt.
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It's chilly in the Bay Area.
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It's also like it's burgundy, which I've just realized going back, which is quite
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funny, which I guess is dark.
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You know, that's a wine.
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Oh, that was good, Steven.
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I was afraid I was gonna slide into Russian by the end, you know.
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I mean, it wasn't really that good.
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But I don't know but you know, like but it was a new accent.
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It was just something else we're trying out.
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I'm a man of the world.
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The Apple Watch Ultra Four has a new sensor not found on the series
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I don't think so, right?
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I'm excited about all the new sensors.
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A lot more heart rate data.
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A lot more data.
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And hey, listens to you.
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I think we're probably gonna come back to that.
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Not not this week, but maybe soon.
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The folding phone comes in one color other than black or white.
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I I mean this is just this is the issue for me of draft
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and Rickies.
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They're like separate but related games.
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That's right.
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So it's like in the draft we counted it as monotone.
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Yeah, it's because Jason's colorblind and No, I it's like No, you gave it
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It may as well be black.
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All I all I've listened to all week, 'cause I try to have um
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what I call mental purity in these things.
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All I listened to of upgrade was the score.
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Have a listen to anything else.
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I just wanted to know who won 'cause I didn't really keep up.
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So mental purity.
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I mean I just mental purity, interesting.
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I just watched a bunch of videos this morning.
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I did watch some hands-on.
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Um wait, so not was so did they not go into your mental mind?
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Well, is it MKBHD is not operating at the level we are in terms
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of analysis of Apple products.
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It's not as nuanced.
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That's all I'm saying.
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Like in K really is a real name.
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That's a thing to say, I suppose.
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I don't know if I agree, but uh the HomePod or HomePod Mini is
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There are no new AirPods announced.
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AirPods five.
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That was a surprise.
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And they did the thing that I so they all have ANC now, which
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But it's twenty dollar difference between the two, and the better one has volume
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controls on the stem and wireless charging in the case.
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Like they're still needlessly separate operating these things.
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Just have one set of AirPods.
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Yeah, but do you want them to make the price more expensive?
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I mean I guess the base price is still is still better.
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I don't I think that's the reason, right?
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Otherwise they would do it.
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But I I think that like
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those things do cost money, I'm sure, right?
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So it's like
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separate them out.
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Are you what do you two both use for AirPods at the moment?
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You use the current pros.
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Steven, what are you using?
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Like AirPods 1 or something.
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AirPods Pro Two.
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So you are on Pro Why didn't Would you go to these?
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We just talked about this.
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No, the three the Pro Three didn't really work for me.
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Uh when did we talk about it?
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Didn't talk about the show recently?
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I mean, yeah, but I don't remember the ex You the amount of times
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you have changed the AirPods that you That's not true at all.
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I went from the AirPods to the AirPods 2 to the pros to the
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Very linear.
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During none of those times you have not bought and returned a pair of
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I know, I tried the three pros and I didn't they didn't work for
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So this is what I'm saying.
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So I can't remember.
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Like I can't remember what you're doing.
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You don't have a spreadsheet?
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Not for that.
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Um I wanna try I'm gonna try and I ordered a pair to see
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what they're see what they like because I feel like that might be pretty
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good for you, right?
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Could be because I'm definitely aware that I'm borrowed time in Pro Two Land.
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My last three were my alternates for my risky pick.
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Turnus introduces himself as quote the new CEO.
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Did not do that.
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No, he was introduced as the guy.
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That's pretty cool.
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Pretty cool.
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Pretty cool.
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I am the new CEO.
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Look, in hindsight, this is the guy.
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In hindsight, you know, it's 2020.
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Number seven, they show photos of Tim.
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Nope, we got living, breathing, moving Tim.
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If you think about it, what is video but thirty pictures per second?
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So literally got the guy fast driving a car and then, you know, walking
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towards the camera and say
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Was that Tim in the car, you think?
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I think it's supposed to be Wasn't that implied?
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I I just thought he was the narrator.
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No, I think it was it was him and then he was fast driving
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the car to Apple Park.
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Yeah, 'cause he like drives into the garage and then you see him walk
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That no, I mean that makes sense.
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I I didn't put that together.
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Um that makes a lot of sense.
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my last one, they explained Tim's not going anywhere.
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Well they actually kinda did the opposite, right?
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Where he's like he walks off into the sunset kind of thing and he's
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like I you don't want me anymore.
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See ya Yeah.
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And then the memorium plays again.
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So I have been extremely consistent on today's episode.
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I have scored the lowest possible score without scoring zero.
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And so that's pretty good.
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I have one out of eight.
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That's pretty impressive.
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For twelve point five percent.
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Not I'm just gonna get my credit card out now.
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So um Federico, some of yours are ungraded still because I'm not quite sure.
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Yeah, because it's uh this uh this kind of stuff all always comes back
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to bite me because there's no way to verify.
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Anyway, number one, there is no action button on the foldable.
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This is heartbreaking to me.
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It is they kept camera control.
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No know what they should know what they should do here?
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You just have a s you like you use camera control as an action
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Yesterday during upgrades Zoe into Scorp was like, Mike, you should just vibe code
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a camera app
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to do to to set up the shortcut you want, which is a really
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Like just make an app and it's a camera and uh I could just
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it can just set off a shortcut.
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That's all I wanted to do.
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Oh my god, yes.
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That's number two.
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Both iPhone eighteen pro models have a smaller dynamic island than their predecessors.
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Oh, how wild is it that the camera the selfie cameras under the screen.
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I know, right?
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But it's a terrible camera though.
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I don't know if you've seen any like MKBHD's video, he shared some video
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from the camera.
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It is real bad.
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Like it's fine for a FaceTime camera.
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Like it's fine.
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Um there's a reason other people have tried this and moved away from it.
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Um what are we number three?
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So There will be fold state automation triggers in shortcuts.
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There's no way to know.
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And obviously, nobody going to the hands-on event is gonna open shortcuts and check
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for automation triggers, right?
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Um number four, the new fold this is actually wrong.
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The new foldable iPhone ships with a brand new multitasking system that lets you
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have independent docks on the outer and inner display with fewer or more icons.
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No, they just showed you a dock with four apps and it just it's
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on the side and that's it.
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This should have been my risky, and then I changed my mind and obviously
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I went for the clean sweep.
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Um number five, there's no way to verify at least a portion of this.
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Uh I'm just gonna say that it's wrong.
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You can drag apps into view from either the dock, like on an iPad,
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or spotlight from the dynamic island.
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I think they only show that you can drag from the home screen.
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So that's it makes me feel like you can do this, but they just
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I think it's probably gonna work from Spotlight, but they didn't it yeah they
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didn't show it.
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Um number six, the foldable supports drag and drop for content between apps in
01:15:52
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This was in the in the keynote video.
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It was a demo.
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And number seven, Siri AI is demoed again.
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I liked the demo.
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Like I think they showed a bunch of additional useful things that you can
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number eight, Siri AI on the foldable can open two apps at once.
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I think it's gonna work, but there's no way to verify.
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I think you can ask Siri AI to open this and it's gonna do
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I assume that on the duo you can say open safarian notes, it'll do
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it, but I don't have a duo.
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So But we don't know.
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They they did bring the at pairing, and I think it's pretty clever the
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way they do it, where you use like the center of the screen.
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Um to glue them together.
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And so that that's cool that that's there.
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Like I feel like they I'm again, we haven't used it, but I feel
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like they did a pretty good job at like taking what w what you
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would want from iPad OS to something like this, right?
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It's simpler than iPad OS.
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In fact, in some ways it's like iPad OS was like three years ago
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or something.
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But I think in practice it's gonna work pretty well.
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That brings me to four out of eight.
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Even I can do that.
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That's fifty percent.
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You're right.
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All right, so here we go.
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Number one, Turnus does not wear Nike shoes.
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He's not wearing Nike shoes.
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Turnus does the majority of the folding phone presentation.
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So this is marked as red, but it's like, how do you define majority?
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I don't I don't think it was.
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Is that it's not the majority against other people or against time itself?
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You mentioned the folding phone presentation.
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But during that part of the keynote he absolutely is doing the majority of
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Compared to anybody else.
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Like he spends more time than any other singular person.
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No, he doesn't.
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They have craig, they have jaws, they have to get it.
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Barely in it.
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Barely come on.
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Entire minutes of them talking about the stuff.
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And he did way more No, I fine, whatever, I'm gonna argue.
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I don't care enough.
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The uh the folding iPhone allows two iPhone size apps side by side, not
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That's correct.
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The A twenty is a two nanometer chip.
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That is correct.
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We see a video showing the folding phone going through durability testing.
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We didn't we got a lot of information about it, but we we didn't
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But they did the whole thing, like the opening scene was like on the
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beach and sand famously kills folding phones.
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I just thought that was a a a touch.
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That was funny.
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I could see where they were going with that.
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Like it which was it's pretty funny.
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So my next one is John Turner Swalks Out on Stage Live.
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It wasn't live.
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Yeah, I know.
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Uh then Turner it's the the other ones in everyone on the stage, so
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like whatever, it doesn't matter, they're all wrong.
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We don't even need to hear 'em.
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Do we even need to hear them?
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I don't even think so.
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I read mine.
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Turner says how much of an honor it's taken when I was CEO and
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it feels to be on the stage.
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There's live audience in attendance that we see.
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Three out of eight.
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And it's defined C, you know, like
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Three out of eight.
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Three out of eight.
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What's the percentage of that?
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Thirty seven and a half percent.
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So Federico won both.
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Mike got second in both, and I got last in both.
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How much money do you owe to St.
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It's quite a lot of money.
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It is twenty-five dollars per wrong pick.
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Didn't we increase that?
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Or was there like a threat of increasing?
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We have talked about increasing it to thirty dollars.
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Is now the time.
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I mean it's still not in line with inflation.
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I mean, so twenty five dollars, I had seven wrong picks, is a hundred
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and seventy five dollars.
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If we do thirty times seven, it's two hundred and ten.
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Do it for the kids man.
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What do you think the inflation number is though?
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Okay, so well what we can look this up actually.
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Hang on, hang on.
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There's an inflation calculator.
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Uh but we need to s like when did we set twenty five as
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the uh probably in like twenty twenty.
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Let me see how far it goes back.
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See how far back the bill of fluxies goes.
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WWE C 2020 is the first time that is noted as $25.
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In 2020, I purchased an item for twenty five dollars, then how much would
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it be in twenty twenty six?
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Thirty two dollars and twenty six cents.
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All right, so thirty.
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I think thirty is a good
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So that's two hundred and ten dollars
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to Saintju dot org slash relay.
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Two hundred and ten dollars.
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I would like a sticker pack and digital bundle, please.
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Oh, they sound really good.
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The stickers are awesome.
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I'm donating like a normal person.
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So anyone So everyone can get access to sticker packs and digital bundles.
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Donate more than a hundred dollars.
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And the digital bundle is a bunch of wallpapers and an amazing macOS screensaver.
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And you can make this donation without having to lose the game publicly in
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front of thousands of people.
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That's right.
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Um, right now we are voting on Jason's cowboy name.
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So I'm voting for the one that I like more.
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Which is the losing one?
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Jason Heads or Snails.
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Yeah, it's losing by like six grand.
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It's my email address.
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You know, you're least putting your intent in, you know?
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Steven, the loser is my display name.
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Continue to donation.
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Okay, filling that out.
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I'm not reading you my address on on the website.
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Just keep going.
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Credit card.
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Read that one.
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What number does your credit card start with?
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I'm not saying that.
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What do you think people are gonna do with that one number?
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Uh well let me What's the first one?
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Social uh social engineering.
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Uh it's a four.
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Yeah, this is gonna be like a twelve year con from me where every
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year I just ask Steven for one more number.
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Okay, I've I've given two hundred and ten dollars to St.
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Jude, and we are updating the f I'm updating the bill of flexies right
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now from thir from twenty-five dollars to thirty dollars.
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There we go.
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That's any uh any closing Thoughts or remarks on the event?
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It was a good event.
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It was a good event.
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Very exciting.
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Really want to do a it's gonna be a long month and a half.
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Oh uh is anyone pre-ordering anything?
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Obviously, me and Federico, we both bought the ceramic.
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Apple Watch already.
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Well, I mean no, but I mean like on Saturday.
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Neither of you are getting the Pro phone.
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Why would I?
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Duo all the way.
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I am going to order a profile because I am not convinced that I
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will want the duo to be my my FM.
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I think that's um I think that makes sense.
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Are you gonna trade in the orange one or what?
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So uh today I just wanted to see what I could get and it's
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like this is not eligible, so I need to deal with that another time.
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Oh, because you have an American phone.
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Yeah, but also do you remember I did the whole thing where it's they
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replaced it with an American phone?
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Um so I don't know if I could trade it in.
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Uh but I'm planning to do something.
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I'm gonna trade something in before the duo.
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And like I may trade in the I have like a fifteen pro that
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I use for my camera and then maybe the seventeen pro becomes my camera.
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And I do that.
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So I keep the orange because like I love it.
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And also the it's a seventeen it's a fifteen pro max, which is just
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like annoying to deal with.
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So I might I might change it out to the to the seventeen pro
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and trade that one in instead.
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Well, next time we'll talk about some of those decisions, I guess.
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Well, it's only me.
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I'm the only one.
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Maybe one of us will
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hit the thing.
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Yes, the thing is that d you know, we're we're all uh we're all
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fic fickle in our own ways sometimes.
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So it would not surprise me if between now and Saturday one of you
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got a bit nervous and just placed an order.
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If you want to find stuff to about the things we spoke about, you
01:24:47
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know, topics and stuff, uh there Uh they were in the show notes.
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Yes, topics and stuff.
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Relay.fm slash connected.
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You want to find stuff for the things that we talk about.
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It's what we do, yes.
01:24:58
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There's link in the show notes to leave us feedback and there's a link
01:25:00
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to join and get connected pro, which is the longer and ad-free version of
01:25:04
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the show we do each and every week.
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Lots more stuff.
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Wallpapers, Discord access.
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Uh check out Federico's website, maxstories.net.
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Y'all did a bunch of great coverage the last couple of days of the
01:25:21
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Apple event.
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So go read all that.
01:25:23
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You can find Mike across a bunch of shows here on Relay, and you
01:25:26
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can find his blog at theenthusiast.net.
01:25:30
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You can find my writing at 512pixels.net.
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And uh I'm gonna be unconnected next week.
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So stay tuned for that.
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I'd like to thank our sponsors this week, FitBodden Revenue Cat.
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Until next time, guys, say goodbye.
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Adi Videchi.