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36: A Weird One

 

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00:00:07   telephone you know every we're bringing all d like the traditions of the crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/7">TS</a>]

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00:00:17   with Skype it should be like I am you don't begin every I am conversation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/17">TS</a>]

00:00:21   people that you know it's like a greeting or something or hello welfare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/21">TS</a>]

00:00:25   and you start and I am conversation with whitey question mark for us now for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/25">TS</a>]

00:00:30   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/30">TS</a>]

00:00:31   didn't know that anybody we did that to me I would be like what are you doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/31">TS</a>]

00:00:35   it's terrible it's like people saying hello but it's worth I here's worst NYT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/35">TS</a>]

00:00:40   your name with a question mark that is the worst way to begin and I am covers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/40">TS</a>]

00:00:45   now disagree has to be white no question mark is the worst trust me I've had them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/45">TS</a>]

00:00:50   all done to make up for white even if I would see because it's been up against a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/50">TS</a>]

00:00:53   white is like yes it's terrible but it's better than Casey like what what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/53">TS</a>]

00:00:59   gas you know who your I am mukasey I i mean is it so much the same as you there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/59">TS</a>]

00:01:05   but the case it's like case is this Casey now it's Casey I'm expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/65">TS</a>]

00:01:12   something from you and i cant believe im not getting it we want to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/72">TS</a>]

00:01:18   vendor doing wanna just dive straight into the review because I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20   let's just say screw the event let's talk about their way home on there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/80">TS</a>]

00:01:24   lot in the event though I i think we should do this more timely review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/84">TS</a>]

00:01:28   reviews not going anywhere in the review is part of the event because one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/88">TS</a>]

00:01:32   things that talk about an event is never explained so like I think we should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/92">TS</a>]

00:01:35   the event and I say this even though I've only seen half an infant but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/95">TS</a>]

00:01:40   marlys note that I think we can fit both we we we have a long show let let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/100">TS</a>]

00:01:45   be honest this is gonna be a long show let's talk about the review you wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/105">TS</a>]

00:01:50   cue the piano background music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53   we were starting with the event we just agreed to buy sorry I said review I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/113">TS</a>]

00:01:58   to them I'm tired to go going on you came here having a cup of coffee or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/118">TS</a>]

00:02:04   whiskey or does he have a John for god sakes all I have is water maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/124">TS</a>]

00:02:09   the problem maybe you need a straight shooter alright let me try this all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/129">TS</a>]

00:02:16   again so why don't we talk about the event and now market you can cue the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/136">TS</a>]

00:02:20   silly piano music so what what did you think John of the parts of you saw but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/140">TS</a>]

00:02:26   either one of you are both of you see the whole of it yes we actually live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/146">TS</a>]

00:02:31   streaming out live we we did a no spoilers policy between ourselves at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/151">TS</a>]

00:02:36   track that day and yesterday it was right and we we didn't check Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/156">TS</a>]

00:02:43   anything I don't even check my email I i cant find my phone vibrate in my pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46   ones I didn't even check the identification I just didn't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49   like just can't be anything important and in the car on the way back we doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/169">TS</a>]

00:02:54   we'd already prescribed to the keynote podcast on our phones so that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/174">TS</a>]

00:02:58   wouldn't have to go Apple's website or find it find the seed we downloaded the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/178">TS</a>]

00:03:02   the flight the recording of it from the keynote read on the way back on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/182">TS</a>]

00:03:08   drive back to work on this five hour drive downloaded the video of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/188">TS</a>]

00:03:13   watched it and streamed over the car speakers so yes so I didn't see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/193">TS</a>]

00:03:17   first two thirds the video at that point is I happen to be driving at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/197">TS</a>]

00:03:21   and then underscore didn't see the iPad portion of the video because he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/201">TS</a>]

00:03:25   driving afterwards but I did rewatch the whole thing this evening and finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/205">TS</a>]

00:03:30   your entire review and read the blog post about the review so I did a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/210">TS</a>]

00:03:35   prep for the podcast it's not supposed to have any prep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   clarify for listeners by the way when they said they were at the track they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/218">TS</a>]

00:03:41   weren't betting on horses in case in case anyone suspected that that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/221">TS</a>]

00:03:46   most likely explanation of a phrase from me and Casey you know the idle rich to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/226">TS</a>]

00:03:51   track the ponies yes so we all did see it in some capacity alright so I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/231">TS</a>]

00:03:58   his part of the reason I missed most of it is because it is that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/238">TS</a>]

00:04:02   available today I had to stop watching stop listening and start doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/242">TS</a>]

00:04:06   the things I knew I need to do right now really quickly to her out were you at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/246">TS</a>]

00:04:10   home or at work when this was going on I was a look and see new enough to plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/250">TS</a>]

00:04:14   for the inevitable possibility that you might have a busy afternoon now so we r [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/254">TS</a>]

00:04:21   you like it was one of those things where you're like they may or may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   work this afternoon or did you just say like two weeks there week ago I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/263">TS</a>]

00:04:27   Tuesday afternoon nominee that off because stuff's gonna go crazy well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/267">TS</a>]

00:04:32   meant to just be a late lunch because like ours actually held the review they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/272">TS</a>]

00:04:38   held it until the event was over exactly what Apple does in terms of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41   know things will go on sale to the event is over store doesn't come back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/281">TS</a>]

00:04:45   whatever so that the review was ready to go within minutes of everything was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/285">TS</a>]

00:04:49   ready to go within minutes of them announcing the price and that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/289">TS</a>]

00:04:54   available today and then it was just a matter of holding it until the event is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/294">TS</a>]

00:04:57   over and then it goes up so that's really all talk of my day at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/297">TS</a>]

00:05:01   and then after work it was just a deluge of emails tweets and everything else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/301">TS</a>]

00:05:07   you know so it was it was a full day but the actual publishing like I was powered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/307">TS</a>]

00:05:12   by a parent I had everything ready to go for everything that was announced that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/312">TS</a>]

00:05:16   was not surprised by anything everything worked as well as could be expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   maybe a shower to her now we can go through the blow by blow of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/318">TS</a>]

00:05:23   different moving parts and how it went there this year than last year but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/323">TS</a>]

00:05:26   think that's that's more of a meta topic now I don't know if you wanna get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/326">TS</a>]

00:05:31   this at this moment but what did you have any of the pricing options already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/331">TS</a>]

00:05:36   in the review or did you just have a big blank space I have something ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/336">TS</a>]

00:05:40   publish which said the prices and no I mean that's what I pushed up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/340">TS</a>]

00:05:44   iBookstore with with the diversion there was ready to go at any moment you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/344">TS</a>]

00:05:50   say yes I can publish his right now I just basically did have information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53   about the price didn't even didn't assert that any price was depressed just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/353">TS</a>]

00:05:57   don't know what it is but I think it's going to be this bottle block and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/357">TS</a>]

00:06:00   that version had a graph of the price and instead of the graph going down 204 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/360">TS</a>]

00:06:06   10.9 there was a light gray line going down to zero with a question mark on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/366">TS</a>]

00:06:10   graphs to 120 I guess but the text said we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/370">TS</a>]

00:06:15   and so I had the free version already go free pace pace pace pace based on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/375">TS</a>]

00:06:19   know upload and there there weren't so I did a very good job of steering us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/379">TS</a>]

00:06:24   review we didn't want to talk about so about the event I think it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/384">TS</a>]

00:06:29   interesting that was just me or did all the speakers seem a little bit sloppier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/389">TS</a>]

00:06:35   than usual I completely agree why people saying that and I'm only up to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/395">TS</a>]

00:06:40   point whose throat was a little crazy but I'm up to that point they seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/400">TS</a>]

00:06:45   fine like not I don't think they're author game as much as everyone said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/405">TS</a>]

00:06:50   think it's not that they were off because they are we stumble over stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   it was that the the atmosphere in the room was hard to tell me you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/412">TS</a>]

00:06:56   there so we really talk to someone who was actually there but the atmosphere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59   the room seemed like there wasn't any like electricity in terms of excitement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/419">TS</a>]

00:07:04   about anything and the presenters weren't able to muster enthusiasm about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/424">TS</a>]

00:07:08   the announcements and the audience wasn't feeling it back to them so just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11   kind of like going through the motions of announcing things quickly through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/431">TS</a>]

00:07:15   slides or whatever but it didn't it wasn't I don't blame the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/435">TS</a>]

00:07:19   presented its just I mean maybe there was not like for example imagine if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/439">TS</a>]

00:07:26   Mac Pro had not been outside WWC it would have been a very different vibe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/446">TS</a>]

00:07:30   that room with the exact same announcements you know I mean just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   because I care nothing there was a surprise really tiny blonde right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/452">TS</a>]

00:07:36   yeah pretty much everything if if everyone took their best guess as to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/456">TS</a>]

00:07:39   what was going to be announced that was exactly what was announced and not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/459">TS</a>]

00:07:43   really nothing more than that was like alright everyone's best guesses you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/463">TS</a>]

00:07:47   what do you think it is and then it was just that it really hurts you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50   have parts of the event that ever that you've told people that before you told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/470">TS</a>]

00:07:54   people at Mavericks were gonna go through it again you've told you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   this Mac Pro which is also where to go through it again and even stuff like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/476">TS</a>]

00:08:00   new MacBook Pros well we are and how long it has been a computer so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/480">TS</a>]

00:08:05   Haswell excitement of well look at this battery life is already there like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/485">TS</a>]

00:08:09   was so little that it was new and and those ones are you going over stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/489">TS</a>]

00:08:12   everybody already knows that you yourself told them previously that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15   kills the energy I think of the presentation but so far and watching I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/495">TS</a>]

00:08:20   don't think it was bad and just kind of like like the products they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/500">TS</a>]

00:08:23   announcing i'm looking at the price but this is a good price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/503">TS</a>]

00:08:26   and now looking at the video this video the Mac Pros be made this is a cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29   video like all thumbs up all around but having known so much before and so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/509">TS</a>]

00:08:34   of having been announced beforehand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   really undercuts the excitement yeah it was weird to that like you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/516">TS</a>]

00:08:42   spent so much time on the iOS 7 you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/522">TS</a>]

00:08:45   video about their design philosophy looks ok that's nice but we've seen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/525">TS</a>]

00:08:49   like twice or three times already used in the iPhone event also come back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/529">TS</a>]

00:08:54   the video it's a nice video it's good to be back how many times can use it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57   be like showing the i mean going where they kind of got her that they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/537">TS</a>]

00:09:01   think different a lot of that kind of works because it was more abstract and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/541">TS</a>]

00:09:05   this is more concrete it seems more tied Iowa seven and got the words that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/545">TS</a>]

00:09:09   reading everything that is just kind of like you can't I hope they don't show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/549">TS</a>]

00:09:13   that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/553">TS</a>]

00:09:14   yeah I think they've driven into the ground but also a lot of the time was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/554">TS</a>]

00:09:19   was videos and fairly boring demos it seemed like they did have a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/559">TS</a>]

00:09:25   announce but the pacing seemed a little bit slow to me and I know it's always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/565">TS</a>]

00:09:29   little bit slow is mainly for the press and you know it's Tim Cook talking but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/569">TS</a>]

00:09:32   still like the pacing of the whole thing seemed especially slow this time and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/572">TS</a>]

00:09:38   seemed it seemed like they were less prepared maybe they had rehearsed less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/578">TS</a>]

00:09:42   than usual and they were less comfortable again here at that part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/582">TS</a>]

00:09:46   it was kind of a lack of excitement because they weren't really announcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/586">TS</a>]

00:09:49   anything surprising lead radically new but part of it was also I think like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/589">TS</a>]

00:09:57   almost seemed like they were a little more uptight maybe because like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/597">TS</a>]

00:10:02   they would when they would stumble over what was obviously a scripted line that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/602">TS</a>]

00:10:05   was made to sound unscripted rather than just rolling with the mistake they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/605">TS</a>]

00:10:09   they would like go back and Andrey say what they were supposed to say the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/609">TS</a>]

00:10:13   time they were just retry the film one night and I thought the same thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/613">TS</a>]

00:10:18   was kind of awkward I felt very stiff to me and a lot like watching a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/618">TS</a>]

00:10:23   uptick you at this point although one thing that I noticed about you say went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/623">TS</a>]

00:10:27   slow I thought a lot of the demos especially the software demos that I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/627">TS</a>]

00:10:30   seen playing up to the point of GarageBand seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/630">TS</a>]

00:10:35   rushed and in the way that because if you're used to the Steve Jobs era he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/635">TS</a>]

00:10:39   would have done the same presentation but he would affect like either one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/639">TS</a>]

00:10:42   application or like a couple of features of two applications and just spent what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/642">TS</a>]

00:10:48   seems like way too long if you look at the Starbucks members they've done to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/648">TS</a>]

00:10:51   get obsessed with like imagine he had picked like the slow motion feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/651">TS</a>]

00:10:55   movie or the drums or something he would do this in depth demos of some obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/655">TS</a>]

00:10:59   feature they liked his fancy he would be there but the thing is if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/659">TS</a>]

00:11:03   the clock nike's going to sit there and play with the slow motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/663">TS</a>]

00:11:06   five minutes are you kidding me but it was he was so obviously so jazzed about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/666">TS</a>]

00:11:11   this feature that he was showing it was almost like watching a kid was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   really excited about that I gotta show you might check this thing out and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/673">TS</a>]

00:11:17   enthusiasm as corny as it might be like you could connect with it and he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/677">TS</a>]

00:11:23   go in depth about someone near future in this it seemed like we got these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/683">TS</a>]

00:11:27   look at this in this this and this is the one that tried to go in depth look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30   you can use drummers in like this is not cool but when he says it's not cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/690">TS</a>]

00:11:34   Steve Jobs be like closing his eyes getting into and going you know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/694">TS</a>]

00:11:37   like market funds on and it like he would really get into it and you may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/697">TS</a>]

00:11:45   be into it but you could say you were convinced this steve Jobs was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/705">TS</a>]

00:11:49   into like whatever was like look at the wood on these cases you know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/709">TS</a>]

00:11:56   was missing because these people were just like go through the features show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/716">TS</a>]

00:11:59   them one after the other maybe a little and evidence but none of them again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02   spark that Eq [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/722">TS</a>]

00:12:03   have been able to convince me that they are obsessively in love with any aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/723">TS</a>]

00:12:09   of these programs yet I thought the I thought the Q demo was rough it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/729">TS</a>]

00:12:14   it was something that was supposed to be cute and funny but was neither cutesy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/734">TS</a>]

00:12:19   North funny like with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/739">TS</a>]

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00:24:32   since they didn't announce Retina Display is maybe I will take that extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:37   money and throw it into micro it's nice that they went standard 12 gigs on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:45   RAM the Mac Pro for so far they were Mac Pro has until this point had three good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:51   standard which is embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:52   well the 12 gigs in like sixteen is that the nice round number we all wanted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:57   they give you twelve just to make you feel inferior like a legacy of the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:00   what's the configuration to get 12 gigs in the dams for us maybe but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1500">TS</a>]

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00:25:21   pricing either and we also we don't know CPU person that obviously have a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:25   say but CPUs probably more than anybody cares so I'm not gonna do it all here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:29   I'm going to blog post but the the short version is the base CPU the fork or 3.7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:36   that is any 516 20 it's a $300 CPU it is not a high-end CPU it does not terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:43   very easily and very far it it's probably a pretty crappy CPU its 370 do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:50   think it's gonna turbo to I mean it's hard to keep pressing while I looked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   it turbos to 3.9 only with only one core activate it he read intel's we r turbo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:59   numbers where it's like number / numbers of numbers it's it's 30 than a too so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:03   it's like it does not it hard the terms at all but if you look at most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:09   CPU option so I looked up you know you can figure out by elimination exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12   with models these are so you can look at other stats and so it's basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:17   Holy 516 X limits the 16 twenty-fifty eighty and then the 2697 as that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:23   high on the 12 core and these all turbo to roughly the same 3.9 gigahertz and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:29   you look at like how they'd had a ramp up they all have pretty much like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:33   same range like it's because they all have the same TDP they didn't go high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:37   enough to have the W chips like for a while but last you see on families have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:43   had these special models ending in w4 workstations and they've used more power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:47   and run faster and like the current 2010 macro that I have to 3.33 six core is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:53   one of those chips they can't use those I guess they can't call the extra heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:57   so they're not using them that would have been nice I wish they were and DTV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:02   12 core high-end won the Department telecast $2,600 so I'm guessing that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:09   be like a $5,000 option on the Mac Pro and what's funny is that it determines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:14   it all so that's not likely to be a very fast ship for almost anything except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:19   extremely paralyzes tasks the best option is probably gonna be the eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:24   core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:25   but what's what's sad is that the Accord they picked the 516 ATV to its a $1,700 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:32   chip that might be like you know 2500 $3,000 option for $300 more from Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:39   there's a better one that uses the same power at the 26 and 27 use the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:44   power same heat higher speed all around and I don't know why they're offering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:50   that I'm kinda sad about that but otherwise overall these are reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:56   options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:56   same cache sizes on us to yeah exactly the same I believe 25 mins ago I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1676">TS</a>]

00:28:01   go for the GOP CPU and trade that they can try their money for SSD cause I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1681">TS</a>]

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00:28:16   the quote-unquote low-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   like it's probably gonna be fun like people are people running you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   thought I seventy most of the gaming world so I think there's a on even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1702">TS</a>]

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00:28:30   turbos faster and i imagining I don't think so I don't have the full charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1710">TS</a>]

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00:28:38   is up 3.7 that is the base appeal but it really it's like you're stuck at 317 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:42   like you don't get there is the six core in the middle scored only until prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:47   only at just under 600 so Apple might offer that for an extra 10 thousand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:53   that's that is gonna be substantially faster but not not buy a massive like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:57   future prices actually gave it was it was you know $3,000 for the for the four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:03   core and $4,000 for the six core right oh I forgot they did tell us that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:09   CPU 600 bucks rather sad CPU is a $300 upgrade their charging a thousand for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:16   so that's all it also has a higher on GPUs in that configuration makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1756">TS</a>]

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00:29:31   configurator goes up what you know how these prices actually are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34   thinking though so as you mentioned a second ago they didn't launch retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:38   displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:38   external desktop size retina displays and actually thinking I might skip this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:43   generation because there's a new Xeon generation on Intel's roadmap coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:46   in one year it's the Haswell EP liner is that's that's scheduled to come out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:52   in third quarter of 2014 and it's not likely to be a massive approves likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:58   be another eight ten percent maybe a performance that same process size and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:03   everything so it's not going to be a huge huge jump but they're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:08   gonna get the Mac Pros in a year or roughly a year and so maybe I might wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1808">TS</a>]

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00:30:17   worked out the version 1 budget as we are new architecture you know who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1817">TS</a>]

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00:32:55   terrible name it is it is a horrible named I mean I think we can all agree on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:58   that but it it's interesting that they're they're pushing really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:04   get everyone talking about the new full sized iPad again like that is the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:09   products for this fall the the retina many is great and it probably gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:14   when we all buy but what Apple wants us to think about obviously from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17   presentation Apple wants us to think about the big one again and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:21   probably no scheduled it probably is because it has WAY bigger margin that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:24   a much higher price product that has most of the same hardware the small one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:28   now so it you know I think you can look at that you can say this is obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:33   just I'm trying to you know boost boost the attention better more profitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36   product but I saw some of the hands on reports from some of the reporters who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:41   were there at the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   say that it really is like surprisingly small the the the low weight is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:48   nice and a lot of them say it's like you know it's actually in a very competitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:53   with the many in and they might even prefer it and that's really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:57   that Apple might have actually succeeded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:00   in getting everyone to buy the big one again probably not I'm guessing the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:05   will still remain the most popular one but I think it's possible I still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:09   the mini was popular because it was cheap first and small second yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:13   very possible and so on that note the many was updated there's now a written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:21   in many at $400 and the old many sticks around for 30 bucks less than $300 and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:29   think its last time but close enough anyway what I like a lot about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:34   retina many years it has the a seven so the retina many and the iPad airboat had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:39   the exact same CPU a seventh and debates that have all the same internal hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:42   except the the iPad air has the bigger screen so you're you're literally just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:47   think you're isn't that right he was paying an extra $100 just for the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:51   screen that right and the bigger battery goes that's behind it right that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:55   so do we know retina many battery life numbers between 0 railroad number thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2095">TS</a>]

00:35:03   I'm curious to see you know when when the full size 11 when they had to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:09   massive battery and it produced a lot more heat I'm curious to know if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:14   retina iPad Mini rather we'll have that same problem so here's one unambiguously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2114">TS</a>]

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00:35:27   of two bad things about that better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2127">TS</a>]

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00:35:34   that works out of practice but to get lost the beautiful original Smart Cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:38   with the middle him instead it's got that flabby twisty iPad Mini Smart Cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2138">TS</a>]

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00:35:47   yeah but the medellin scratch the laptop next to it in the bag don't just leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2147">TS</a>]

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00:35:56   with your keys know about you but you could put a Smart Cover iPad next to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2156">TS</a>]

00:36:02   the flat side of a laptop in a skinny laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2162">TS</a>]

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00:36:10   that is padded so that it doesn't damage other items on their jostling around I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2170">TS</a>]

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00:36:18   favorite things about the iPad 3 that I used to just so just at work so nicely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2178">TS</a>]

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00:36:37   their big the big case they put around that looking at the picture looks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:40   same kind of the same design as existing big case in those big cases of terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2200">TS</a>]

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00:36:48   that he would just the front but never seen the full-back case there sooner in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2208">TS</a>]

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00:36:57   one-member the iPad one case that was a disaster like everyone got it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2217">TS</a>]

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00:37:18   just in the big 12 make more people are by the big one but they didn't put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2238">TS</a>]

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00:37:57   Apple store in that a sign out front said no more iPhone prices today come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2277">TS</a>]

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00:38:05   them millions of them like they're not like they can make any of them but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:10   have no idea which part is that making it so they can so that those scientists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:14   are going up at Apple stores weeks after lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   and had it could be a part that has never been in a product before it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2296">TS</a>]

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00:38:24   case just a bunch of aluminum and the a 71 that's already going to many of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2304">TS</a>]

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00:38:32   going to get either the new iPads and if so which one after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:40   I didn't watch the event on my wife to be there but she knew of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:43   you came to me and said I want too many he wants the right number so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:47   think she's getting one but that clearly that sales she just got a 50 fancy 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:53   gig on her so she can wait you know I would love to have the new iPad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2333">TS</a>]

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00:39:02   not adhere to just wait for the product that you want like I went the first iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:07   I got was the iPad 3 because it was the first read that one is a new Renault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2347">TS</a>]

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00:39:15   ways that it wouldn't have been with my wife got the iPad 2 and iPad you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:20   want to you know I'm waiting for right now I did and I've been very happy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2360">TS</a>]

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00:39:29   it's not the product you want to buy just because their weight if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:33   possibly wait your thing with not getting the first iPad Mini I i went the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:38   opposite direction got the first iPad Mini and I think it ruin the iPad for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2378">TS</a>]

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00:41:59   I'm going to get any new ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:02   asked me to remind me of this in like a month if I were to get one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2522">TS</a>]

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00:44:07   my son play with their iPad 2 in the play games on it do things or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2647">TS</a>]

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00:44:44   original iPad Mini is all the exact same hardware same screen resolution just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:48   smaller dimensions from smaller physical screen and it all the same stuff for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2688">TS</a>]

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00:45:30   sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2730">TS</a>]

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00:45:43   things the exact same hardware except ones bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:47   exact same price that would be kind of 50 bucks dropped 700 bucks off Italy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2747">TS</a>]

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00:46:00   but it's just a thing like there's two there's to divide like even if they drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2760">TS</a>]

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00:46:07   because they're still today selling the iPhone for us and the end the iPad Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2767">TS</a>]

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00:46:47   hardware one's bigger a hundred bucks more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2809">TS</a>]

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00:47:01   script to the spill or whatever they have to to say which device they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/2821">TS</a>]

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00:51:53   that I have that being said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   alluded to earlier t-mobile announced some really interesting cellular pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3115">TS</a>]

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00:52:08   day or week passes at reasonable capacities it was not ridiculous that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:13   really good for travel exactly but the only problem is if I'm reading things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:17   right it's I believe it's only on their 4G network which is basically in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:21   metropolitan areas and that's it so it is a pretty big trade off it's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:25   cheaper but it may not be as available especially in the case of something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:29   Verizon but I would definitely look into that and just like Marcus and evaluate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3149">TS</a>]

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00:52:40   now either t-mobile or Verizon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   if your iPad never leave your house than wifi only is probably fine but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:46   bring it with you either you know every day on your commute or she bring it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:50   trips you no more than 20 times a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3170">TS</a>]

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00:52:58   other stuff with it if you want to end the battery life and you're just having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:01   an awesome you can use it like pretty much all day but you can also get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:06   just changes the way you use it when you just like a phone when you always know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:10   that it's always online rather than having to like go on your phone turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:14   tethering on have your iPod connect your phone to tether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:17   it's when you whenever you add those steps it reduces the likelihood they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:22   gonna pull out and check it and you can use it for something and so you like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3202">TS</a>]

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00:53:31   it doesn't you're the only thing I would say those I am Not sure if t-mobile does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:36   tethering with these plans they very well may I just I really don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:40   would dramatically change my enthusiasm for tmobile because half the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:44   would want and acellular app ipad is in order to tether just like you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:48   saying you want to move on to the Mavericks stuff yeah I'd like to briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:54   start by making an observation and then I will leave the floor too especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3234">TS</a>]

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00:54:08   about 50 more minutes 20 minutes you can fit in there right so are you gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:13   an audio book release no I'm not I mean like you can make Pakistan redo web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:17   pages you know like it's part of this part it's part of the OS they don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:20   me to do that for you but it's not the same you have to be a member of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:24   audible read it has to be in the author's voice to really have maximum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27   effect if I read something that I wrote it just makes me about the writing isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:31   like that just doesn't it takes a certain skill to read you know to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:38   the written word is different than just speaking are giving a speech or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:42   like that it's very different and not not in my skill set that's funny you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:46   that the market because earlier as I was reading the review it I thought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:50   myself I wonder if we could take like recordings of need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3290">TS</a>]

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00:54:58   you use and piece together the review just from the recordings that you made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:02   in the process of writing the review you could not because I interleave typing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:07   speaking which you really shouldn't do it is inefficient but that's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:10   way I work in this is nonsense just fragments of sentences bursted out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:15   then I go back and edit things and put in two senses by hand and speaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3315">TS</a>]

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00:55:24   wanted to make a quick observation before we got to that it was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:28   reasons I think was a WBC either this year or in 2012 and I didn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:34   chance to go look it up and figure out exactly what what it was but I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:37   leaving that offend whatever the event was thinking to myself my goodness half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:41   of this event was a big screw you to Google and it might be the one where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:45   they introduced Apple maps which as it turns out wasn't as much as we thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48   but what would ever been to was there was one event where I left thinking my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:53   goodness that was just a big screw you to Google after this event I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:58   similar feeling but it was from Microsoft because it during the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:03   Apple killed while you could argue that Apple killed paid OS upgrades are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:09   paying for your OS in any particular capacity they killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:14   office to some degree by by making the iWork suite free and they killed officer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:22   65 and kind of Google Docs by having I work the I work on iCloud beta or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:28   whatever it's called now granted when I say killed none of these things office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:32   and Google Docs aren't going away but I thought it was really really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:37   that a lot of this was both an implied and in some cases explicit screw you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:42   Microsoft in the explicit case I'm thinking of most most obviously is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:46   they had the picture windows 8 or Windows 8 under whatever was the picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49   of the box for that in the end they said you know this is what the other guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:54   doing and we don't believe in thats we're gonna get free they blew it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57   they blew up the box with all the stuff they at least kept that transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:02   exactly in so I just don't have as much else to say about that I'm curious if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:07   you guys have any thoughts but I just thought it was interesting that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:10   going after Microsoft with this because I was a direction I didn't really expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:13   they going after the old Microsoft with that because like an article in Wired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:19   about this too that quoted me to someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   some of them an email asking for take on this and I sent them a paragraph in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:25   middle of the forest and savanna no idea but I did it mostly because I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:28   exactly what I wanted to say on this topic like the article was just killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:32   the market for POS is simply sensational headline and I sent back a paragraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:37   said this was happening and it's basically it's big it's because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:41   vertical integration if you make the hardware and the software you can decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:45   where you want to take your profit and lazy way to do is be like ok we'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:49   our problem hardware problem software to that's dumb move because if you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:55   shift that profit over just take a little bit you going software and put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:59   into hardware maker software free free is a magical price point there so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:03   like papers and books you can read about the experiments show the magic of free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3483">TS</a>]

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00:58:23   software and and 98 from hardware when your results getting a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:27   of your problem hardware and 0 from software just phenomenal and so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3507">TS</a>]

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00:58:34   sizable as well but it's really hard to give people free hardware especially big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:38   heavy things made of metal and then silicon chips and stuff like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   more expensive so if you have to make a choice where you gonna be your profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:44   really really hard to put all your profit into software give you a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:47   hardware although Amazon is almost kind of doing how to try to give free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:51   everything from the outside the choice is clear it's always been the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:55   money's in the hardware and the software is cheap and out Apple's finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:59   realizing I can make the whole thing we can show up all the profit into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   hardware and software for free and Microsoft couldn't do that before cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:06   they didn't make the hardware and sat on the new Microsoft is we want to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:09   we want to be related to make the hardware and the software and once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:13   Microsoft does that they will finally have the freedom to shift that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:16   Prophet wherever they want and I think they're going to end up in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:19   place you can give people free surface Pro two is or whatever they're selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3559">TS</a>]

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00:59:26   at the bottom and build them but you can make the software free so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:30   microsoft is not like microsoft knows where they're going to say oh we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:33   going to make a run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:34   gonna buy Nokia we're gonna make your own stuff we're making our own Xbox or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:37   whatever you know OS upgrades for Xbox or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:41   $29 for $100 whenever they're free to just get the new you know you update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:45   your software so everyone's going in the direction that direction everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:49   being vertically integrated and Apple to take its wipes now but I think microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:53   is considering the recent market almost there well on their way to becoming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:58   kind of company are ready and able to get some final digs in you know before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:02   everyone arrives at same spot sure I think developers are are gonna read into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:08   this free stuff a lot more than the market will end and I was I would also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:12   say you know with regard to these things like you know quote killing these I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:17   I would say like my my favorite weapon in and worms the old I was a big fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:21   forums that the 2d versions by before they went through in ruin the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:25   thing but my favorite weapon whereas the prod because it's just like put them off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:32   a cliff or something like you you expend the slightest effort possible and cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:35   them you know some could have to happen and so I would say like you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:41   parotid Microsoft and Google with with these are they I don't think they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:47   are killing anybody I don't think it's not that big of a deal to the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:53   what it really is you know these Apple products are appliances Apple want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:59   think I'm thinking that way and Apple want you to just buy the Apple product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:04   and just always have the latest version that's something that Google cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:07   offer on all their stuff on Android and everything good can't offer it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:12   they don't really controlled the ecosystem Microsoft can't offer because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:16   it kind of by their business model in the but the fact is no one with Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:20   phones really ever upgrade anyway even if they can and even PC users don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:26   usually upgrade their arrest usually they get to know us by buying a new PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:29   so they're not really attacking these business models as much as it might seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:35   it would also like you know that I work in in the in the browser stuff and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:41   collaboration features that would have been a really fantastic if Google Docs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:45   didn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:46   but now it's like Apple AAPL is true is really trying to play catch-up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:51   Google Docs and and to date in a very bad job of it we'll see how this is i i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:56   dont have high expectations because their reputation this department is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3716">TS</a>]

01:02:00   very bad cases think about his feelings coming out of the Apple maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:03   presentation and in terms of being able to control everyone's versions of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:11   everyone's got a little put in a camp like Google's got its Chromebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:15   Chromebook the whole big deal is like you always have the most recent version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:18   everything in Google Chrome which they offer for lots of different platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:21   same type of deal where Google Chrome is notorious for you know I should like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3741">TS</a>]

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01:02:31   to the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:32   you're gonna have the latest version of Chrome right and Chrome OS is like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:35   entire machine that's like that you have no choice you want latest version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:38   everything no options you just gonna have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40   Android they can't do that with because of carrier crap and that's kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:43   know the whole thing and some similar to Microsoft Xbox I mean I think you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:48   the option not to upgrade but it's like they're not charging you and they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50   strongly encourage you all had a new Xbox out of me I don't know if they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:54   so far so you can connect to live after a certain point you have an upgrade to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:57   latest Xbox and Microsoft console on who should know better than I but everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3777">TS</a>]

01:03:01   who has control of any hardware platform walks to do that thing where it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:05   where they want to keep everyone up to date is just that Apple is like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:08   already there then camped out in that zone for just three decades the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:13   we have the software and they were like they're fighting with one hand tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:16   behind their back trying to start $29 so as 10 upgrades was like why why we doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:21   that we're just responding ourselves and maybe it took Ohio esta to convince them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:25   like oh yeah we can just make it free and add $29.00 to the margins of our max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:30   problem solved so John switching gears for for a minute of the show what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:36   do you think maverick's do you think everyone should install it but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:40   everyone have you installed on your main computers are you using in full time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:44   when you're on your main and work computers in their view which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:47   haven't read I said it like every new version of OS 10 I've been upgraded to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:53   sooner and sooner like after you know usually after publishing review I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:57   maybe by the time you read this I'll be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   house will be on Mavericks unfortunately like a week before Mavericks released my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:04   works which VPN products from one that used to work with the OS 10 built in VPN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:08   21 the required a terrible third-party product and now I'm stuck until the VPN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:13   software but I can't get into the VPN software support and Mavericks and god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:17   knows how long that will be so unfortunately I was not able to execute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:20   my plan to give up the Mavericks and to get my name but it's it's pretty darn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:26   safe like you know it again I say they would you please people back up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:30   stuff like do Rio backup confirmed that its ok maybe due to backup just in case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:34   because if you screw it up then your backup is the only one place your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:37   is due back up sorry and do a couple Google searches of you know you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:42   high res software tends to break it was upgrades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   say you're running PGP whole disk encryption which you shouldn't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   you just should just be using the past tense built-in encryption see if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:50   compatible you running some crazy extension extension or driver like to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:55   to the manufacturer's website send email to support things that has like it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3895">TS</a>]

01:05:00   action week or so to get all these answers but you'll be much happier when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03   you do it's not like you just wait some magical period of time to upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:06   checker software if you just only running back stock AAPL stuff and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:11   from the Mac App Store get upgraded a backup but you'll be fine but yet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:15   seems to really low risk in terms of compatibility right down to the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:19   that it doesn't even eliminated Harbor compatible like it you can run mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:22   lion you can run this so I know the handful my co-workers have already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:30   upgraded in granted in all my coworkers are kinda nerds but some of them are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:36   the kind of nerd said I necessarily would've expected to upgrade nos so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:40   quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:41   not to say they wouldn't do it but just to do it so quickly and I've heard any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:44   negative feedback from any of them back to work today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:48   I have not done it on either my machines yet I will at some point once I get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:55   double sure backups going especially since we just went on this trip I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3955">TS</a>]

01:06:00   to make sure that I kinda get through the processing of all those files and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:03   make sure those are all squared away in more places than just the psychology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:08   then I will probably upgrade like over the weekend or something the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:12   reason to worry about upgrades is not that things are gonna work but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:17   features are added and changed and so that's why you know maybe reading her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:21   view and I know what you're in for a big as the say you really liked the old way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:24   that full screen work crazy person they knew who the new way that it worked is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:29   different and so you upgrading I missed 12 people complained that it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:35   they changed the way the power button works on laptops instead of bring up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:38   little dialogue where you can sleep and all that stuff just heading it sleeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:42   the whole it down to get a dialogue and that seems like a small thing but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:47   a change and it doesn't like it's not like your computer doesn't work anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:50   but people upgrade that's the thing that they'll say I upgrade to measure gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:53   ruin my computer not have to hold down the key to get on top of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:56   accidentally hit because near the leak in my laptop puts me to sleep and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4016">TS</a>]

01:07:00   know that the way too weak to point out some way to disable that was some like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:05   stuff like that is in the real world what people decide to condemn or praise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:10   a release for an ob praising it again if they didn't like the new one if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:15   have multi monitor they like having the menu bar in both places like stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17   that is what people end up becoming attached to it whereas when I'm things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:23   like I was gonna you know how was your computer knowledge you get your work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:26   done stuff like that and that's more of a software compatibility thing but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:29   we have you can see the features some features are different than they are now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:32   online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:33   better not worse it's up to you to decide but they're different find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:36   what those R and see if you like them but I think one of the reasons people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:39   are upgrading is because like you go to any computer with mountain line you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:44   launch the app store it's like a the genome averages out presses button get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:48   it now you know that's the whole point 30 purchased just it's gonna be shoved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:53   in your face and when I was seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:55   and iOS devices and that's that's all part of the plan just very briefly about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4075">TS</a>]

01:08:01   features one of the things that I've been kind of dreading about Mavericks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:05   since I was sitting in the WBC keno is that when on my work computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:10   particularly I like to have three different spaces and one of them is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:15   personal email and web browsing the middle one is work email and I am and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:19   things of that nature and the third one is whatever the actual work I'm doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:24   and I treat each of these three spaces as one contiguous unit across two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:31   monitors so maybe I'll have work email on the on board LCD and I'll have work I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:39   am on a external LCD but that space-based number two I treat is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:45   contiguous unit just spanning two monitors I know that the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:50   maverick streets though the spaces and in mission control and all that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:55   it is no longer there now to independent monitors with two independent situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4135">TS</a>]

01:09:00   going on and I've been dreading that although if I recall correctly you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:04   the review there is a way by which you can turn that off if I really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:08   desperate but that's a great example of something where I already know that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:12   might not be something I like but I i theoretically have a backup plan just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:17   case and the point it's like when you gonna do like you're not going to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:21   especially if you're upgrading it eventually you're gonna get a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:25   mechanism I'll just get used to it sooner rather than later like absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:29   get started on figuring out what you need to do to tweak in this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:32   version to your liking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:33   right instead of just saying on all the same reason both these people on Snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:37   Leopard still they mentioned nikki noted that I also mentioned a few people of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:40   Snow Leopard last good version right because that's just the one they love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:44   and you just got to move on eventually yeah that's why I figure out all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:50   the weekend but it's nice it's nice a knowing what I'm probably not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:55   like about it but it's also nice knowing after having read your view that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4195">TS</a>]

01:10:00   a backup plan available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:01   also I'm very surprised that I have the self control not update immediately if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:07   for no other reason than for the easy access to emoji with whatever that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:13   which Stephen Hawking oh so gently pointed out in his mattress review you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:17   don't need easier access to emerging market and they can have a problem I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:23   that in my urge you to Casey I thought you read it I don't know I saw your I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:29   got a snarky call out in Hackett's review yeah I mean we're late relating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:35   to show for me to be going through my view point by point and we will all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:40   can do more of that next show but like to sum up the little bit and then we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:50   get into more details on future shows but when I'm writing these things I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:55   always looking for some kind of message or theme for the OS and Apple AAPL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4255">TS</a>]

01:11:00   provide something that would like whatever they decide to be pushing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:03   know however they tried to wrap up in a bow the features that happened to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:06   it into this release in this one obviously energy-saving is a big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:09   but what I'm looking for is like historically speaking what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:13   releases this and I would say it's a weird one like that's the theme of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:17   review that goes drug thing that's where it stopped in this like it's odd it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:22   even call it like a transition because there have been transitioned over this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:25   is but it's like a transition between what and what a transition between that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:29   weird line mountain lion forestall I West jealousy you know no clear vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:36   world and then like not on your way to an iOS 7 things it seemed like a Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:42   maybe that's out there in the future is not clear but it's like ok away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:45   where we were but not towards anywhere in particular and it's weird you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:52   aesthetically and like spiritually if you want that way like it's it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:58   a little bit lost in computers which is not to say that so many parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:02   visitors better like the tech partners gets better you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:05   gets more efficient these things get to use less memory things get faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:10   just you know bugs are are removed and subsystems improving you know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:15   about the respect to be better but it's not setting off in some bold new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:19   direction it's kind of like I don't know it's an odd bird and it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:26   the beginning of something new but it doesn't know what that is because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28   stop the cats we start with the place names and it's you know it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:35   like a baby cows there baby deer whenever they get up stand up for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:43   first time in their big long legs during that's that's kind of like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:47   Mavericks is but at the same time has that vibe of like well there's that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:51   there's also like when they didn't go try to like ripped the entire house down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:54   and do something you like it and I was seven so there is a comfort and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:57   familiarity so that theme I hope people who read the review like it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4377">TS</a>]

01:13:03   because you like a certain point and pasting text dumps of like exeter output [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:07   in him to the thing in your life that I've lost the plot now I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:11   what's going on with this review but I hope that runs throughout the review and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:16   I do try to added another layer on top of that which is you know stupid snarky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:23   comment and yes tons and tons of pop culture references and I i feel like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:26   you don't understand any of the pop culture references that it put in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:29   and no one but me like it's gonna get them all because they're all from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:32   personal history I feel like you still get the theme that I'm driving out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:37   shouldn't have to know have watched the same movies and TV shows and read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:40   same book as I have to get what I'm getting it should be there in the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:44   but if everybody else there is the subtext laid on top of it and help the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:47   people who get those to you later references and find little Easter eggs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:50   or whatever that had something to but I never want that to be the only thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:53   and the things I'm adding to it I hope is building on that team not just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:57   oh and by the way like here's a funny thing from a TV show that some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4437">TS</a>]

01:14:02   other related to the theme of this review I've tried to make the records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSONUaY/4442">TS</a>]

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