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00:01:50 ◼ ► that it has entered the picture he sent it back to me and he did an amazing job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/110">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► extended not only the the deck edges but also the dog because he knows what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/114">TS</a>]
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00:02:17 ◼ ► looking right the dialog box is still move and the icons on the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/137">TS</a>]
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00:02:25 ◼ ► that I can see it then addressed me not so I'm still in reduce motion land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/145">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► despite the fact that I don't like the crossroads yes what he say that so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/149">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► friend Chris Harris who I believe both you got some mad he works for the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/154">TS</a>]
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00:03:05 ◼ ► extend and that was the first time I'd seen any instance of Content Aware Fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/185">TS</a>]
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00:03:29 ◼ ► and then I guess something happened with links and Mavericks is a huge on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/209">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► thing we talked about a couple shows maybe way back to the beginning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/215">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► remembering which podcast was on I mentioned that I had little folder or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/221">TS</a>]
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00:03:50 ◼ ► each new version of OS 10 and I have to make those notes before I know the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/230">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► of the OS would be and I was guessing for the name them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► there and and for 10.9 I made a link sold out why an axe and not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/237">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► because I thought that would be the name of the next big cat think I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/245">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► thought like working to go from a lion and you know you're not online seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► kinda lame but as i grateful they're done you know it can possibly be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► capital was a cat that should be links and spiro links and then of course is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/254">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► called mary has a big cats but this past week I did get a tip that Apple was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/259">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► the very least investigating the word links if they were to go with cat names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/266">TS</a>]
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00:04:47 ◼ ► could be I think we talked about this and other recent talk show more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/287">TS</a>]
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00:04:55 ◼ ► it could have been a 10.9 name and I would have been perfectly happy with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► but we're on to the place in california's that's why it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/298">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► because the show notes the only entry is OS 10 10.9 ly an axe and I assumed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/303">TS</a>]
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00:06:02 ◼ ► chat to correct me Bradley chambers came on the prompt to talk about photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/362">TS</a>]
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00:06:10 ◼ ► and said Oh you should really try to ever pics it's it's really good bond so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/370">TS</a>]
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00:06:29 ◼ ► certainly there's some things we can talk about here in the show notes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/389">TS</a>]
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00:06:43 ◼ ► with all my pictures to give me a little more security and all paranoid Neville [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► these multiple backs of my pictures but the thing about every picture is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/406">TS</a>]
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00:06:53 ◼ ► they are so didn't wanna like own the pictures it was like will pull them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/413">TS</a>]
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00:07:15 ◼ ► where that I had access to all my pictures from any device that could run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/435">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► a web browser and there was a nice I was up as well so the some picture on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/440">TS</a>]
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00:07:33 ◼ ► iPhoto library something whatever pics gave me access from anywhere to all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/453">TS</a>]
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00:07:43 ◼ ► relatives if they wanted all I need to do to print throw all this picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/463">TS</a>]
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00:07:52 ◼ ► about everything now they're gonna like this is the way and search company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/472">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► should should do photo mansion whether it's Google or Microsoft or Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/476">TS</a>]
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00:08:02 ◼ ► photo stuff but they don't have as many hooks into Apple's applications right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/482">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► you don't have to worry about your photos they're all in the cloud will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/486">TS</a>]
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00:08:35 ◼ ► don't like even if they didn't store them but somehow gave me a magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► access to data from everywhere but like you know telling through my own computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/519">TS</a>]
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00:08:54 ◼ ► an email like a visit what happened a year ago today two years ago as a three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/534">TS</a>]
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00:09:02 ◼ ► three years ago to be able to have kids to take pictures in the young take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/542">TS</a>]
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00:10:09 ◼ ► a year photos and then you can pull my curly in you know sell your soul in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/609">TS</a>]
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00:10:29 ◼ ► flashback emails from as much as like 10 or 12 or whatever years ago it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/629">TS</a>]
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00:10:50 ◼ ► is going away but the the point in driving out is that the flashback emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/650">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► even as someone who doesn't have kids and you had mentioned being able to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/654">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► to your pictures from basically anywhere and not unlike Mike I was one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/660">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► people who had a camera roll three gazillion pictures in the reason I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/665">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► that even though I had gotten them off my phone and onto my computer I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/669">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► wanted to be able to show a friend or someone I just met or family member a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/674">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► picture if I felt the need so for example if I'm talking about when Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/681">TS</a>]
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00:11:34 ◼ ► to be able to show someone those pictures and whatever pics I could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/694">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► that and I didn't have to have a camera roll that was three thousand pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/698">TS</a>]
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00:22:51 ◼ ► instead ever picks gonna try to ride the middle day there they chose to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► something that's very expensive to scale they chose something that it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► likely and maybe this is there I don't think it was ever likely to have booming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► explosive growth because the market for it is not everyone who ever takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► pictures needs this man is driven to do this it's really only people who care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1391">TS</a>]
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00:23:20 ◼ ► this and that is not a big market you know relative to something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► Instagram and end this I mean to give you some idea like Tumblr like three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1404">TS</a>]
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00:23:36 ◼ ► picks had 400 terabytes or so if there if there are three bill is correct and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► so obviously they were scaling at a store example that's insane this was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1423">TS</a>]
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00:23:54 ◼ ► we always photostream kind of worked this way and it doesn't it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1434">TS</a>]
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00:24:04 ◼ ► upload all your photos to assemble store all of them forever that you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► potentially hundreds of gigs for people or or even terabytes 44 people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► that's not that uncommon of a case but Apple could absorb that easily like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► company will be profitable with their income stream with three times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► number of subscribers and remember like they're doing premium as they take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► freemen of the equation even more class to be profitable $50 a year Apple just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► add $30 year spread across all its profitable product lines like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► wouldn't even notice that and who knows how much money they're already spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► to do photostream it seems like you know i feel like im like Apple with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► margins in their profits and what they're already doing could easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► absorb this business a six-person start up with a freemium model where they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► 55,000 customers but only you know 70,000 are paying can't absorb it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► then they can they came closer they are one more funding round which they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► have gotten that they might have gotten the time around they had started this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► company ten years ago released harder to get funding that caused people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► see you know Instagram or something and if they don't like math funding them no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1508">TS</a>]
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00:25:17 ◼ ► needed to get tons of VC money to pay these ridiculous costs like they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► paying tons and tons and tons of money as people upload massive photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► if the whole point your services include everything in her shot like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► first start using it then your storage needs don't grow slowly over time as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► people accumulate new photos your storage needs spike up at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► i mean the whole thing was a very very expensive business to run not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► considering the staff which staffing hasn't seen them in like the staff costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► of my best of kumar they have like five or six people so if you took away ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► percent of their storage cause they would be fine it's the freemium guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► that killed them because they said hey sign for free upload your photos and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► know that the people who are paying that that was a sustainable business it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► if it was paid $50 bill so are all your photos because you know people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► variable size authority but they apparently had figured out a model where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► they can store all your photos and be profitable as a six-person company with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► like seven thousand subscribers here's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► $50 for a year of Amazon stories by you about 20 gigs maybe you know by the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► they're getting into their bulk pricing may be talking 25 or 30 gigs so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► everyone everybody I mean maybe that's the average that sounds a little low to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► me that for anybody who would use a service like this that sounds like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► should 26 in a year they were doing I'm pretty sure they're doing lossy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► compression though so they could find ice compression did this report draws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► that matter the line that that that makes it like five times but it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► that was that I was thinking about going in the middle road like they had they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► had a thing for the thought this could be for everybody but they weren't story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► draws and they were doing you know if I can prob lossy compression thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► things to professional photographers would never accept and depressing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► think was priced like that it's like $50 year there's not a thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► professional photographers it's a thing for everybody responds access all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► pictures from everywhere and wants to know they're safe and if you type person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► as well you're not save my rose my pictures are really safe this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► this is not the the service fee right so they were they had they had a Miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► balance of their business model and their funding but and they made mistakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► but it's not entirely crazy because I think this same company like a set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► the same company in 10 years ago and that BC environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► are not to use it as a crash but like at this point I think it's getting harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► VC funding for a company in the state of this thing was whereas when you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► the midst of a run up our bubble people like oh my god you have actually paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► customers and you you know you have a product of people like here take our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► money but now they're like paying customers that means you're never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► grow that fast and yeah people like your product but who cares not know thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► will pass like it's the curse of its business model if you didn't take money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► from anybody then you would be on you know the the Instagram that thing is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► have no revenue we don't take money from anybody well not this Brandon you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► if that was the case then they're using number would be impressive and it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► a no then you then you have the potential for explosive growth so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► were in this is an unfortunate situation and I think about it as I get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► feeling that the vultures surrounding them both of these and other companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► were like why would we ever by a company when we just wait for you to run out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► money and then school of the technology which is seems to have been what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► happened because it's like you don't need the company and you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► invest in the company of you don't think it's gonna be the next Instagram if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► think technologies just anxious wait sit back and wait and then after it all goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► down I bet you can get the technology involved it's true you know I I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► firstly real-time follow someone in the child who lost you name it was posted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► tweet from one of the gentleman that works never pick saying we use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► perceptually lossless five X compression you're right about that john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► perceptually loss means lossy it's like personally spoke but you know the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► that I really take issue with us on the market said a few minutes ago which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► you know this isn't for everyone and i actually strongly disagree I think ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► picks in principle was maybe not literally for everyone but was for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► normal human being that shoots pictures with any device that they don't wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► lose which is to say almost everyone I mean we don't have kids but if we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► to lose some of the pictures we've taken vacations of family gatherings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► goofin off at BWW in South Carolina if we lost those pictures I'd be devastated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► and after pics was such an easy and recently a cheap way of getting yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► a backup in John I completely agree with what you said a while back that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► just one leg in a chair that holds up all of your all of your pictures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► make sure they're safe but it was it it's a very easy way to do that and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► you think about it I don't think most people that I know use a crash plan or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► back please or anything like that and so getting all of your pictures into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► cloud is such an improvement over having no backup or just having time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► which by the way most people I know don't use either in so I agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► guys that you know this probably was doomed and Marco your analogy while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► ridiculous is actually fairly accurate but on the other side of the coin I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► strongly disagree that this wasn't for everyone it may not appeal to everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► it's not it's not it's not for everyone in this sense the Markham as it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► that everyone can benefit from this because they can it's that it's not of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► interest to everyone which i think is totally true like rush to it right if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► you wanted if you for everyone doesn't mean like if I were a difference to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► this day we get benefit everyone would get benefit from the question is is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► a type of product that if you talk to describe to anyone they are merely says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► oh yeah I totally would like that and yeah here's a few dollars and yes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► was definitely no because this type of thing that people don't really know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► they need and it's also the type of thing that we've been conditioned by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► sort of modern computing platforms to assume is a platform level concern my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► car doesn't take care of that for me it doesn't Google take care of that for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► and it really properly should be a platform levinson which is why I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► saying someone should I ever picks because it's like you know is the type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► of third party thing we like whoever my platform vendor is should be providing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► some way for me to do this weather is paying for iCloud storage or you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► part of my really expensive phone or as part of my Google account they get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► their personal information or would like it should be a platform level concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► and so people aren't going to say I'll pay extra 50 bucks to this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► this thing that yeah I make it valuable but it's not something that the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► people who really bothered by the crazy people like us who think about backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► and stuff and that's the terrible thing about every basis most people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► think they need this at all even though they do and if you gave it to them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► free they would probably enjoy it but they're not going to go out and buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► and if you have something people are going to go out and buy you basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► have a business that's quote unquote not for everyone because everyone does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► come to you to buy it and it's a subtle distinction but it's an important one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► when you're sitting there waiting for the customers to arrive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► also I want to address 22 quick follow-up here one the idea that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► should just do this for everyone it is to put it bluntly it is not that easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► because Apple is so big and the number of iOS devices being used in having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► Photoshop them is so large that like s3 isn't big enough for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► like that's the kind of scalar talking about their too big for s3 and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► doing something like this on Apple scale is such a completely different ball game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► then doing it on the scale of a new web service with with you know 10,000 50,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► whenever users this is it's not even close to the same game number two the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► idea that a startup is only worth it is worth a lot less once they've made any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► money at all is mostly not true in practice in practice growth matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► above above everything even if you aren't making a whole lot of money right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► now if you are getting user growth trafficker of the tension growth but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► especially user growth that papers over everything that's what the entire VC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► road as is based on is just the stock market is the potential for future money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► and if you've made some money now but it it's been disappointing but your user of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► this totally through the roof that doesn't mean you're worthless it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► you didn't try to write business plan yet arrived revenue plan yet but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► doesn't mean there isn't one if you have user growth PCs will give you money . [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► yeah but like the easiest way to get that explosive growth in to make people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► believe that there's going to be explosive growth is to not charge any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2034">TS</a>]
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00:34:02 ◼ ► all the people who have computers as soon as you charge any money for anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2042">TS</a>]
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00:45:56 ◼ ► of photos to a lot of people just don't have a fast enough connection to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► in a reasonable time its online back that's a problem for a lot of people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2759">TS</a>]
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00:46:11 ◼ ► you start getting data caps a fight that you know that's that's all we can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► problem and and as bandwidth increases so will photo size and so will the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► amount of videos people take their bandwidth is already running photos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► video it's a big problem is getting a long time to get the video and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► think porque videos around the corner but 1080p video was already way too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► for him I do but I think photos I think we're already there for photos by I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► think anybody with a photo collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► and anywhere you would call broadband thing is going to take off all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► photos will eventually go up which is not true video so I think I think we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► it's kinda like the bullet passed the point where you could download music on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► Napster but you couldn't download feature length movies we're at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► photos alright if most people don't have brought OJ pics and yes the pictures are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2815">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► getting bigger but I think bandwidth is getting bigger faster Minnesota casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► was LTE nirvana is amazed at speed again something like that for the speed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► he gets on his phone is sufficient for any photo collection of anybody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► been a lot less than a hundred years and you know takes a dozen pictures a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► and night I think I think we've passed the phone around that activity of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► extent of the problem but I would say for Apple they can just call we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► backup your videos is what can they do with videos 1080p is just too much data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► already from you know maybe maybe when they do teach 265 whatever the neck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► standard is i think thats I got the number right that supposed to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► another to access to react compression thing with no loss maybe we start and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► then like LTE becomes common in people's broadband has to at least match out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► you then maybe we start to enter the promo video but like I said if we ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► gonna for cage starts all over again but pictures I think I'm gonna probably top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► out at like 30 40 or 50 megapixels like regular people are never going to want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► more pixels than that and their images because of what you gonna do put on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► side of a building like it's big enough to get 24 by 24 inch printed right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► so I think that will top out and I think we passed that so you know if available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► to start trying to do it now they're not going to wait until then within carrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► and its ok now now that we feel like we can so comfortably doing everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► uploaded whole photo collection an hour now is do they got to start now they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► have started somewhere photostream as just a it's kind of a shame to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► solution they should just try to do the whole thing and you know the boys now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► yeah we've spent quite a bit of trash talking about ever pics I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► because I i know i speak for myself and probably both of you that that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► really bummed that left any other thoughts that real quick before we move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► prob matters in the chatroom thinks that upload bandwidth stop problem I point to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► Casey's phone you had good upload speeds around it wasn't just download the UN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► press load speed on that LTE I forget something to try to look but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2934">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► something to the order of like fifteen 15 which 15 megabits up that's plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► and that's on a phone I can everyone will have a phone wireless upload speeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► home broadband tablets be too terrible I know but like if that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► home broadband by the people who are selling LCE because like everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► already knows they need a cell phone that everyone is eventually get healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► self on and that's a bad for cable companies if they can get their acts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► together to get their upload bandwidth better than people realize they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► faster upload bandwidth from their iPad their iPhone and that's not even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► problem perhaps respect everyone's taking pictures with their iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► it's already on LTE you know there you go you upload bandwidth data compliments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► I mean like it's there's not there's no clear path for this immediately like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► know maybe you know maybe in five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► typical carrier data caps will be two or three times as high who knows maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► you know who knows all data caps artificial those who like that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► the type of thing that can change without people running new copper or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► putting up new cell towers are doing infrastructure things some someone just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► you know changes the number in a spreadsheet and all of a sudden you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► allowed to upload I guess not I feel like that's the type of thing that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► solve it and and sometimes there's also issues with with like radio spectrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► space and crowding of the towers though i mean they're like none of the scales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► particularly gracefully and all of its controlled by companies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► historically have not shown much of a willingness to lower prices over time or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► to give you more overtime you never know what's gonna lead though because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► sometimes it's competition amongst the people providing the service will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► compete with each other all files coming now when you do it you know soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► filed under seal the cable ppl cranked up their their bandwidth and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► you know is that that's one level competition the other level competition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► is if there's something on the net that draws customers customers will you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► will be will be drawn to it like oh I've gotta have Netflix and Netflix doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► able to pick something out of a hat because i dont have enough bandwidth is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► terrible I'm going to find a new ISP assume he has any competition all which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► is another big problem but I'm going to find otherwise even if its wireless or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► WiMAX or whatever the hell is going to be cause I need to watch Netflix and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► then in that case Netflix's the draw so you have forces on both size and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► the forces on the side of competition on service providers are so terrible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► we should be relying on the force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► make this thing on the net the people want and you'll get pissy if they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► get it and if the part of the thing is so all my photos are backed up and safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► because I have a decent ISP or my caps are whatever your reason you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► switch to t-mobile Sprint or whoever the hungry competitors who gives you some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► you know t-mobile doing like the 200 megabytes tree man with it ever despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► the incredible dysfunction in our thing I think if you make a product or service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► out there that everybody wants they'll be pissed if they can't get it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► they'll be pissed at their carry-on that will look for any alternative that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► market opportunity for the people who are currently losing and the market to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► do something so real-time follow-up from myself I just ran speedtest on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3114">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► on LTE and I got 25 megabits down in 15 and told the story at least once or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► twice before but outside again when I bought our house in 2008 I was arguably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► more excited about getting files and I was about owning our first home and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► that point in time the reasonable mack daddy service was fifteen 15 and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► was just 2008 which is just five years ago and on my cellular telephone I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► got 2515 at this point where we're past the point which photo uploads are doable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► over even LTE with the exception of the data caps like we talked about how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► do you like not counting uploading photos but just like regular phone use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► I'd say between one and two gigs and in general month and I don't even know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► to be with you cuz I'm on wifi always but somehow or another I find a way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► has been a doesn't do sell filtering you for the temple I'm not a week there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► no I was gonna say it was like four hundred megs for the months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► our second punch this week is FCM space shuttle this is this is interesting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► this is a new title sponsor for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► FSI m.com as in flight simulator Epsom space shuttle is an iOS and Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► flight simulator that is highly realistic and it's designed to simulate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► specifically the landing of the USS space shuttle in its final descent into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► Kennedy or Edwards Air Force Base when I first saw this as I have a whole app for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► that and then I tried the app it's incredibly detailed I mean they've gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► read the reviews I mean their views back this up and it's not just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► paying us to say this like this is creepy view on the Mac Observer I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► really a flight sim person in general but you can look at people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► flight sim people and you can see what they say about this and they just love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► it simulates various TV special in his new can configure everything you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► challenge yourself you can let me let me turn on a major major turbulence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► I'll do it at night with really cloudy visibility and all simulate the failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► of one of these instruments or you know the my flaps homework or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► that and I'll have to talk to still try to land it well under these challenging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► conditions or you can just do it straight and do it under a perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► clear conditions and try to get it exactly right without running down too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► hard and putting too much force on the landing gear or you know being unsafe or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► or missing the glide path things like that it's really interesting like I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► didn't realize there is a whole world around this stuff until we receive this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► app for your review for the spot and I have to admit I'm terrible at it I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3289">TS</a>]
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00:54:59 ◼ ► is what they call a crash landing which is like that you don't crash but you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► re no wrong enough they've put too much force on certain parts and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► proper and could be unsafe so there there's the crash which I haven't done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► there's the proper land in which I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► and in the middle there's the crash landing which is what I keep getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► it's it's like it's an exercise in precision and just like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► practice and self-control it's really cool the graphics are amazing by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► like this is you know flight sims are always again I don't know that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► about flight sims but I've always noticed that they've always been amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► visuals with with the graphic and everything and this is an exceptionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► play the center right now I Pad it's an iPhone too and I didn't both but I meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► it looks fantastic especially right now iPad so check out F same space shuttle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► its effort dash yes I am you can search in the App Store or you can go to SSIM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3354">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► with or without the dash doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► FSI m.com it's only $4 us- and probably some similar amount elsewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► available for iPhone iPad iPod Touch and Android check out the screenshots check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► out they have videos it's not like an arcade game or anything but if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► flight sims you will like this I think the amazing thing they did about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► that when you get to think about flight seems like that you like all this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► going to be difficult for me I'm not gonna be able to do it is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► too many buttons is gonna be too fidgety the amazing thing about this game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► that you can started and just start playing out don't read a single thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► don't don't don't read the Help don't look at the controls on doing just start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► the game and play it and you can successfully do what you think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► landing until it tells you that it is technically a crash landing as you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► jammed up the space shuttle into the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► way too fast and you'll get a low-scoring you feel bad but the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► is you don't have no idea what do you can immediately pick it up and use it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► the one thing I really like about this game is that I hate games with tilt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► controls but this came when you do the tilt controls and I don't have any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3419">TS</a>]
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01:02:45 ◼ ► features that can be done in a year because then you got a sort of like half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3765">TS</a>]
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01:03:03 ◼ ► could do a really impressive update and in the middle of that a team of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSN9mVc/3783">TS</a>]
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