The Accidental Tech Podcast

40: The Compliance Shark

 

  winds made didn't but I had a backup I used time machine is this show I guess [TS]

  hard to join you have some if you don't you should do last week we talked about [TS]

  Cisco VPN and price software and all that stuff and those trying to like [TS]

  telling a story from my life with a broader point about enterprise software [TS]

  but the specifics of it were mostly got responses to one of the big response was [TS]

  hey do you need that new version of the Cisco VPN software because even though [TS]

  you couldn't get it is you don't have service contractor would ever hear [TS]

  various places we can get it you want me to email it to you if you do a search [TS]

  for this you'll find there's something so far so a lot of people wear nice and [TS]

  offering me this piece of software which I know if it's like a date is that [TS]

  illegal software company is that a properly so far probably but anyway [TS]

  thank everyone for their offers I did not taking on any one up on their offer [TS]

  design as I think I said at the end of the segment last week the final result [TS]

  of that was that it was partly my fault for not reading the message and that [TS]

  even if I could get the software didn't matter because I was had to wait for my [TS]

  department approved for use like it has to be this new version has to be [TS]

  approved for use with all the other stuff they do in the morning to [TS]

  proofread use they will put it up on their download thing to go through the [TS]

  job outlook for we are restoring my even if I can get the software which I [TS]

  totally could if I wanted to Google for the things that people tell me too cool [TS]

  for whatever when do me any good because it's against RIT department's policy to [TS]

  install it so I'm just now patiently waiting so thanks for all the help it I [TS]

  don't need right now and the second bid is from the missing any Connect Twitter [TS]

  account course there is I don't know why I didn't think this weekend saw this is [TS]

  specifically bein sober product would have a twitter company does any conduct [TS]

  Twitter account responded a few times to me and one of the things they said was [TS]

  that about Cisco being clues about 10.9 said that Cisco had announced this issue [TS]

  publicly and reported Apple prior to the release and a couple of other people [TS]

  said that [TS]

  there was some networking related change really late in the in the beta period [TS]

  like me right before jim the corner lot of people off guard so apparently if you [TS]

  are following the right places I wasn't following you would have known that they [TS]

  were going to be incompatible with nine and they weren't ready so ecology Cisco [TS]

  for saying that they did not know that ending was coming obviously they did [TS]

  they had an issue that I would happily just didn't get their stuff working the [TS]

  entire militant I released they did get it working couple weeks afterwards and [TS]

  now I'm just waiting on my department however long that will take some time [TS]

  though is better was fun and I do the real thing I found as a lot of people [TS]

  are recommending third-party Cisco VPN comparable clients one thing I think you [TS]

  some people are confused about is it the built-in Oosten VPN works with some [TS]

  Cisco VPN server used to have a Cisco VPN that the Dalton work with now is [TS]

  great as I know software to install 0 us work so that added a box of working 1087 [TS]

  but this new Cisco product one doesn't work with the built in VPN so a lot of [TS]

  people saying here's how you can decrypt this filing get the right things to [TS]

  enter into the OS bpm preference I had already done that already had figured [TS]

  out all that something is working but they upgraded site created for every [TS]

  change to any texts which doesn't work with the built in Japan but there are [TS]

  third-party products that you can buy not from Cisco there were probably work [TS]

  with cisco anyconnect one of them was called open connects like an open source [TS]

  project or whatever they look like little bit too much work for me to try [TS]

  and stall no one is called Shimo which I checked out I could not get it to work [TS]

  and I didn't want to fight with it because if I fail to get it to work [TS]

  three times in a row get locked out which I did you call someone on the [TS]

  phone sometime I like my thing for me so I'm just gonna stick with the cisco [TS]

  anyconnect vpn wait for my work to approved for use and then upgrade [TS]

  everything and continue my life right now we also had a great bit of follow-up [TS]

  from a guy named Jared who asks I'm wondering what you may perceive as it [TS]

  market for better enterprise software and other two big question but is there [TS]

  a place for a smaller company whose focus is enterprise software to come in [TS]

  and disrupt one of the big guys with something vastly better without the name [TS]

  recognition I've been fighting with enterprise accounting [TS]

  in seriously considering writing my own to try and combat the insanity that is [TS]

  most accounting software but I'll be fighting an uphill battle would love to [TS]

  hear your thoughts so I picked this is something I want to talk about because [TS]

  my first job out of college was actually at a small enterprise software company [TS]

  trying to disrupt a bigger enterprise software market and so I learned a lot [TS]

  of there and and most of what I learned was just because I was I was you know a [TS]

  smartass college kid just out of school and taking a new everything entering the [TS]

  workforce and I was working with a bunch of way smarter people than me who are [TS]

  way better programmers and had much more wisdom accumulated among them and so I [TS]

  got my butt kicked pretty severely in the best possible way during that first [TS]

  year too just like learning how to be a real professionals offer developers that [TS]

  have just some college kid has a program part of that growing up process is that [TS]

  I think every programmer when they leave college is very likely to be the kind of [TS]

  person and I certainly was who looks at anything else and says well that's [TS]

  stupid why they do it that way why don't they just do XYZ like you think [TS]

  everything simple problem you think everyone else is an idiot and obviously [TS]

  the reason why this sucks is because they're all stupid end I know better and [TS]

  I can walk in there and and and take over you know or I or I would do it [TS]

  better and so I I had a look at this market from that point of view not [TS]

  saying that scared to view it probably has more experience than that but that [TS]

  was certainly my point of view and I learned the hard way why enterprise [TS]

  software is so hard and and it really is it it's not as simple as well [TS]

  crappy programmers write it because they didn't want to work on consumer stuff [TS]

  it's not that at all it's also not that that the developers of enterprise [TS]

  software are just you know they don't care about dinner freeze or or they [TS]

  don't care about it isn't that all its that gap rice market is really really [TS]

  complicated and it's not nearly as easy as a consumer market to enter so one of [TS]

  the biggest reasons is just the buyers when you think about that [TS]

  culture of a company in case you mentioned a little bit last episode with [TS]

  with meetings and people wanting to be heard and wanting to do not get fired be [TS]

  relevant one of the biggest problems is that it you know if you've heard the [TS]

  phrase nobody ever got fired for buying IBM and its if you if you think about [TS]

  like if you're a big business buying a bigger price offer products and you're [TS]

  the you're the i-team and here you are the CIO whatever they do you know [TS]

  something like that I don't know enough about these terms but but let's let's [TS]

  call it the Eid manager if you install some crazy email system from a start-up [TS]

  and the guy before you was running lotus notes which is horrible for the users [TS]

  it's horrendous for the users but it's like you know quote under president will [TS]

  know nobody ever got fired for installing Lotus Notes although they [TS]

  probably should [TS]

  which by the way lotus's on by IBM yeah I know that extra funny but I don't [TS]

  think there's always that that way but anyway doesn't matter if you if you [TS]

  develop your whole companies you know budget for Category X and all this [TS]

  effort to install and everything and it turns out to kind of suck for you if [TS]

  that's a really well known thing like microsoft office or in like the Exchange [TS]

  server like no one's gonna know is going to fire you for that because that was a [TS]

  reasonable decision to make if you go buy some kind of crazy startup thing and [TS]

  that doesn't work very well are people just don't like it that's on you and so [TS]

  there's a lot of pressure just from the situation you're in there was a lot of [TS]

  pressure to go with the big established things it's also a very human intensive [TS]

  sales process there's a article four ever gonna have to learn to enjoy on [TS]

  software about software present probably going to like 10 times over the last [TS]

  five years is but one of the things he mentions is that there's really not a [TS]

  lot of software between $1,000 and $15,000 because once you get above a [TS]

  certain price threshold you have to start like flying a sales force out to [TS]

  meet with potential customers and play golf with them and schmooze with them [TS]

  and go out there like to support everything and and so it [TS]

  it becomes a much more expensive proposition for you the software vendor [TS]

  to even sell software to big enterprises so you have to charge a massive amount [TS]

  that same process of the dead that big sales process Mesa so that you basically [TS]

  have to have a very large sales force and a dedicated sales force to fly out [TS]

  and meet with people all the time if you want to sell at a price offer any any [TS]

  meaningful volume you can't for the most part you can just like have a website [TS]

  and download button and and that's it like much of the software you gotta [TS]

  fight people out to meet with them for months [TS]

  etcetera and then once you get the software built [TS]

  let let's say you actually sell to them or you can close then you have to deal [TS]

  with their requirements [TS]

  this is one of the reasons why any price offer is so expensive and why there's [TS]

  not a whole lot of choices for a lot of the stuff their enterprise staff has to [TS]

  work at much larger scales and much higher reliability than a lot of [TS]

  consumer software you know you might you might designer at thinking that you know [TS]

  what's the maximum number of database records I'm going to have to handle on [TS]

  this app you know what is it may be a million and then you find out that you [TS]

  know your customer has to import 15 million records a year from the last [TS]

  thirty years from their ancient system that was running on mainframe that you [TS]

  know some contractors built in the eighties you like it was it that it that [TS]

  kind of upscale that you're operating hours so many companies you also have [TS]

  all these needs like what john was saying last week you have security you [TS]

  need your regulatory need you have logging and auditing and fine-grained [TS]

  access control and groups and permissions and all these things that [TS]

  are so often required by enterprise customers that that's you know consumers [TS]

  to visit need most that stuff or can get away with a smaller scale version of [TS]

  that or less and less official version of things like that dude also know you [TS]

  might have requirements to certain industries about like they might want to [TS]

  know how you run your company then they might want to have security audits of [TS]

  your company quality audits of things like things like Six Sigma [TS]

  quality certifications to fight that I don't know about to say more stuff like [TS]

  that they might they might put the burden on you to say well for us to buy [TS]

  your software we have to have these organizations or regulatory bodies like [TS]

  verify that you that your company is legit and secured a lot like PCI [TS]

  compliant and payment industry that kind of thing I interject real quick [TS]

  yeah as somebody who is either work for beginner prizes as a consultant or I [TS]

  also spent some time at a huge company that wasn't software company that was a [TS]

  huge company nevertheless in this is absolutely true and a lot of times [TS]

  you'll have really progressive in really smart developers put in I touched on [TS]

  this last episode put in a situation where because of all the requirements [TS]

  put on them about code reviews and about even the version control you use like in [TS]

  a pass job I had to use the rational suite where I couldn't check in code [TS]

  unless I associated it with a task in the bug / work tracking part of that [TS]

  same tool so I couldn't make a change the code unless I was tagging it in [TS]

  associating it with something that somebody else more important than me [TS]

  told me to do and that's extremely extremely frustrating and the other [TS]

  thing is with big companies they typically been around long enough that [TS]

  they have screwed up in every possible way and the answer to screwing up when [TS]

  you're in a big company is to make procedure so you don't do that exact [TS]

  thing again and so now you have a million in five procedures marker your [TS]

  testing on this six Sigman blah blah blah even million five procedures in [TS]

  place to avoid you pretty much getting work done with any sort of urgency or [TS]

  speed and it it's very very difficult very frustrating [TS]

  you're absolutely right and then and end the sales process is also weird because [TS]

  first mother's analyst reports these things are so big and so much money at [TS]

  stake [TS]

  one of the things analysts are paid to do is tell companies what kind of any [TS]

  price offer they should be buying and the analyst game at that scale is is [TS]

  kind of a scam you you as a software vendor basically have to pay a massive [TS]

  sums of money to [TS]

  become members are clients of the analyst firms and then they'll start [TS]

  recommending you and it's not it's not ever actually said that way but that's [TS]

  kind of how it works in practice and so there's a lot of companies that not only [TS]

  by what some analysts tell them to buy and so you have to kind of get in that [TS]

  game it's a very expensive game to get into an and then even when you go and [TS]

  I'll recommend you put you in the right boxes or something [TS]

  compliance is like that to have been through a lot of compliance things and [TS]

  those are basically like extortion schemes that the company will come your [TS]

  parent company to come to tell you whether you are compliant with something [TS]

  whether it be PCI are a million other acronyms stand is that you have to [TS]

  comply with and they'll tell you which things you are non-compliant about and [TS]

  then they will sell you consulting services to make you compliant and after [TS]

  you pay this this very same company the money to help remediate hear your [TS]

  failures to comply then they will give you a certification and everybody had [TS]

  like once you get that critical mass of like oh everybody in the ex industry is [TS]

  that why certification compliance just to be a player because you know people [TS]

  start putting on each other's requirements in this market talked about [TS]

  the requirements once everyone starts putting on their requirements and I [TS]

  realized I have to be on it the the culture of companies that build up [TS]

  around allowing companies to get that compliance as sort of little Kampala [TS]

  it's like it's kind of like saying with over the startup so passing money back [TS]

  and forth to each other into the venture capital money around the structural [TS]

  profitable companies and their passing money back and forth to these middlemen [TS]

  who give them the compliance so that they can take to sell to people in the [TS]

  little people who can't afford to play the compliance game you know i mean a [TS]

  lot of complaints things start with the right intentions especially government [TS]

  compliance like in general have some you know good intentions to begin with and [TS]

  then they were just sort of people finding little nooks and crannies of [TS]

  profit where they can like sort of live as the big sucker fish on the on the [TS]

  government shocker on the compliance arkansas week we have found a little [TS]

  area we can be profitable by helping other companies comply with these stupid [TS]

  things [TS]

  it's not it's not a pleasant place to be this the whole enterprise environment [TS]

  have talked about it on castro's I think this this whole environment to be [TS]

  described all these different things about that are weird and terrible people [TS]

  have to do it eventually produces companies that are not able to compete [TS]

  like in in the short-term and medium-term reproduce companies can [TS]

  crush other companies but in the long term it [TS]

  resigns you to death because once you're completely ossified procedures and [TS]

  compliance and all that other stuff and you are the king of your mountain with [TS]

  these other big companies that are all playing the same game and you've [TS]

  defeated the mall is like two or three of you left when you think you're the [TS]

  winner [TS]

  some other level 3 memo comes up and the comment comes in he died and the [TS]

  Fremantle like that's the there's the evolutionary process and just came back [TS]

  to this question from Jared about like what do you think about some small [TS]

  coming disrupting stuff like that this happens this is happening all the time [TS]

  this constant turnover of like the little company comes the big companies [TS]

  in the coming you know a giant behemoth can't do anything and then they die in [TS]

  the next one comes that's always taking place in the enterprise market a lot of [TS]

  companies that are you know a lot of places they're small I think one of our [TS]

  past sponsors with the internet software it's so easy to make a product that any [TS]

  users want to use more than one of the things that they're forced to use the [TS]

  trick is for those companies either be so incredibly desirable that the [TS]

  important people on that's like the iPhone approach where like doesn't have [TS]

  that COO has an iPhone the CTR is an iPhone although she loves I could have [TS]

  iPhones I T Department you're gonna make iPhones work with our never own carried [TS]

  on here a blackberry just make it work like that's one way to go in there and [TS]

  that's sort of like a you know from the top down approach and the other one is [TS]

  the bottom-up approach we're in our company at least like we have SharePoint [TS]

  which case you can tell us all about how wonderful that is [TS]

  and we all hated it's terrible and people just the individual people not [TS]

  developers for just a regular everybody anybody in the company's sales people [TS]

  matters everybody just started using their own drop boxing out to me are [TS]

  making shared Dropbox accounts but like you know just random names then sharing [TS]

  the most older people because it was easier to share files to Dropbox but [TS]

  that's not complying with all our compliance stuff so it's like whoa you [TS]

  can't be using Dropbox we have all these requirements data to be in houses to be [TS]

  encrypted but you know I will block and what we're switching to now is box.net [TS]

  which is like a secure Dropbox type of thing let's use cell phones and stuff [TS]

  like that that's kinda like the Eagle approach where you take a product that [TS]

  uses really like but they may not have enough of the requirements to get into [TS]

  an enterprise and you you go from the consumer side you say what if we just [TS]

  had just enough features in compliance to get us into not all enterprises not [TS]

  even the biggest enterprises but now we're nowhere player in like the small [TS]

  to medium business type of thing where we take a product that everybody love [TS]

  with the iPhone take the iPhone that everybody loves and don't make it into a [TS]

  blackberry but making it had given enough enterprise features of the remote [TS]

  wipe the little bit of a management service service you don't bend over [TS]

  backwards for approximating into true enterprise software you merely take a [TS]

  really desirable product to consumers love and you do what it takes to get in [TS]

  the door and that's a bottom-up approach and Dropbox or business announcement as [TS]

  well so now like everyone's kind of doing that where you can get into the [TS]

  enterprise without the fleet sales people without being like will do [TS]

  anything for you and the big support contracts and stuff like that by just [TS]

  taking successful consumer product you know people using any way sort of on the [TS]

  sly or illegally quote-unquote and just do what it takes to get in the door of a [TS]

  couple of businesses I think that is a viable strategy for disruption will see [TS]

  you know thirty years from now what the state of file sharing within large [TS]

  enterprises looks like I was talking at work with with somebody today just today [TS]

  actually and he was saying that he was talking to big banks some conference [TS]

  while ago that must have been fun well you would think not but actually I guess [TS]

  it was very interesting and my coworker was saying he was talking to [TS]

  I guess like a director of innovation or something like that a big bank and in [TS]

  this particular gentleman said you know I don't fear the other big banks and i [TS]

  genuinely don't know which bank it was but for the sake of conversation let's [TS]

  say was Bank of America and the guy from Bank of America said I don't fear [TS]

  Capital One and I don't feel fear Wells Fargo you know who I fear the little [TS]

  startups because they can move so much faster than we can and there's nothing I [TS]

  can do about that in that makes me think of say square in squares never going to [TS]

  replace a Bank of America but square is my go-to mechanism for giving money to [TS]

  friends in Psalms more than like $10 or whatever I would have my wallet and if I [TS]

  have to pay a friend that i dont see on a regular basis because he did me a [TS]

  favor or or I bought something from them secondhand or whatever the case may be [TS]

  you know when I do I use square cash and in it's that sort of disruption like [TS]

  each use that word and probably misusing it but that's sort of air quote [TS]

  disruption that i think is scary to think Jared spot on in and saying you [TS]

  know maybe that's possible and if you did you make a great product [TS]

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  end the follow-up train and it vaguely relates to her pics which is going to [TS]

  really make everyone excited the to Windows Phone users came out of the [TS]

  woodwork over the last week to complain about the fact that I called it Windows [TS]

  Phone series 7 Mobile series phone to Metro not metro phone and to be honest [TS]

  writes well to be honest I mean I think they're right and I got some tweets from [TS]

  Arby and an email from Chris and where they they took issue with what I was [TS]

  saying and to some degree I think they were right and so let me read a quote [TS]

  from this email which I never actually got blessing to read from but whatever [TS]

  they they were talking about among other things and we saw this mother people's [TS]

  well thats not drive apparently is kind of ever picks forward Windows Phone [TS]

  pictures and so this is Chris who emailed me when I jumped from iOS [TS]

  Windows Phone because was just too gaudy in 2010 I got something very very nice [TS]

  indefinite photo backups I just looked at my SkyDrive inside that I got heat [TS]

  that I've got 8581 [TS]

  photos backed up that's many photos I've taken for just over three years on my [TS]

  phone that however pics debacle that that whole does or doesn't iCloud backup [TS]

  more than 1,000 photos we don't have that problem all four percent of us and [TS]

  so it is worth noting that this is a really really cool thing I didn't look [TS]

  into it anymore than than these emails and tweets are we got but that's that's [TS]

  what I wanted from Apple and it seems that Microsoft can do and perhaps they [TS]

  can do it because they have four percent of the users like chris said but it is [TS]

  very compelling and it is very interesting and and I should give [TS]

  Microsoft some credit for that so my apologies to the Windows Phone users of [TS]

  the world and I appreciate you guys pointing that out I think about all this [TS]

  is that even though it seems like they're being magnanimous and doing this [TS]

  out of the goodness of their part to help you keep your photo safe and maybe [TS]

  make you more satisfied with your Windows Phone new Google phone or [TS]

  whatever it is also a former platform blocking because I'm sure say every one [TS]

  of these you know say Microsoft Google and Apple all protect all your photos [TS]

  forever which one of those companies if any gives you away to switch platforms [TS]

  that I've decided I don't like Windows Phone them are now going to try and [TS]

  Android phone Android Google Nexus whatever number they're up two and then [TS]

  use it then you think hey wait a second [TS]

  all my pictures are on Microsoft's SkyDrive when I buy my new Google phone [TS]

  and you know set it up and I get we're all gonna be how am I going to see them [TS]

  as Microsoft going to bend over backwards to say oh it's easy you can [TS]

  just export all your photos here and put them in there do you assume that all the [TS]

  photos in your SkyDrive also exist on your local disk is Amira Dropbox style [TS]

  are you have back up something like this this silo effect I mean it's good for [TS]

  all the individual companies and I would think out of all the companies Google is [TS]

  the most likely to give you a way to get it out because they're pretty good thus [TS]

  far about giving you some sort of gigantic give me my dad out and [TS]

  proprietary format but certainly Apple is not good about that and I imagine [TS]

  Microsoft would not be either that's something I wouldn't even talk about [TS]

  last time I assume we snap our fingers and everybody provides a way to protect [TS]

  our data including our photos forever in the cloud and blah blah blah now now [TS]

  we're all locked and even further to the platform [TS]

  they were using probably yeah that's one of the reasons why I think it's wise [TS]

  when you're when you're looking at how you gonna do something like this it's [TS]

  wise to to break that hard link with one of these major platform vendors who's [TS]

  going to have all these different you know strategy barriers there probably [TS]

  are act I think it's better to go as something either either self-managed [TS]

  where you know it's all your stuff like a hard drive and transporter and drop [TS]

  off stuff like that or go something like ever picks which is a service that is [TS]

  kind of neutral and and unlikely to be bought actually I guess they say they [TS]

  stay in business fine but then once they get acquired kind of like how Facebook's [TS]

  recent Facebook bought Instagram and everything you thought you were using [TS]

  this independence everything that's part of the Facebook Empire like that's [TS]

  something you have something you have to watch later said the nice thing none of [TS]

  these things are going to be your solution for everything responsibility [TS]

  to have all these different things and then with one of them goes away [TS]

  gets acquired starts behaving in a way you don't like or whatever then you swap [TS]

  it out for what you are like you know you just never gonna be all set for [TS]

  every you're always going to have to keep an eye on these things and decide [TS]

  when some service or vendor is is now crossed the line into something you [TS]

  don't like us which exactly so totally changing topics John [TS]

  I assume you have been following the reviews of the ps4 an expert on I [TS]

  haven't even actually read the reviews I've read so much about both of them [TS]

  beforehand it's almost like now that people actually have them what are they [TS]

  going to say that that I didn't already know about it but the one thing that we [TS]

  all didn't know about any of these things is how many people are going to [TS]

  buy them and now for the ps4 at very least we do have sales numbers proudly [TS]

  announced by Sony itself they said that they sold a million of these in the [TS]

  first 24 hours in North America alone and that doesn't sound like a lot [TS]

  compared to how many iPhones on the first day was like nine million the [TS]

  first weekend or something for the 5s but in the world of game consoles I put [TS]

  a link into this economist story which I think it's nice grass about it [TS]

  are some interesting grass anyway but in the world of game consoles those numbers [TS]

  are actually pretty good [TS]

  the PlayStation 4 sold more consoles in its first 24 hours than any other [TS]

  previous council so that I think its first week or maybe its first month it's [TS]

  really big opening day numbers and the reason I bring this up is because they [TS]

  had a conversation about Nintendo a couple months ago I was talking about [TS]

  Nintendo I did a post on her blog article didn't intend to run Crysis show [TS]

  notes and one of the things I said it was that if the market for dedicated [TS]

  gaming hardware goes away then intended is probably in big trouble because I [TS]

  don't think Nintendo has the ability to put out a full-fledged platform like for [TS]

  applications and everything in the style of iOS or Android doesn't seem like [TS]

  that's in the country you know it's just something that companies not able to do [TS]

  it and to be fair very few companies are able to do that [TS]

  who is able to produce a platform for mobile desktop or anything [TS]

  many companies have tried and most of them have failed and we've got Windows [TS]

  Phone barely Android and we've got a question on the desktop we've got [TS]

  Windows to Mac and you know maybe Linux of your own throw that in there and dead [TS]

  bodies of all the past companies that have tried from you know Palm OS two [TS]

  Amiga to OS two and all you know BOS all these things the company's couldn't do [TS]

  it so I don't think Nintendo is a platform company I think their their [TS]

  survival depends on their being a market for digital gaming hardware out of the [TS]

  next generation consoles PlayStation 4 is be most dedicated gaming hardware the [TS]

  Xbox one tries to be like we do television stuff and you can do Skype [TS]

  with your friends and you can overlay a web browser on top of your game on top [TS]

  of you know it is trying to get to edit HDMI input for crying out loud is trying [TS]

  to be a television experience with the Kinect built in all the stuff we you [TS]

  don't know quite what that is I guess you could call it a dedicated game [TS]

  consoles well but it's actually very strange with the the handheld tablet [TS]

  thing and everything like that the PlayStation forest straight up the [TS]

  middle of the box that has controllers plugs into your TV but the game disc and [TS]

  play the game [TS]

  with the controller on the TV very straightforward and so what does the [TS]

  very big opening day sales of the PlayStation 4 say about the viability [TS]

  dedicated gaming hardware think you have the economist thing open those charts I [TS]

  don't but I can I don't do my homework I got it yeah I think it's charter [TS]

  interesting for a couple of reasons this shows that generations of game consoles [TS]

  I don't know how they can offer these numbers are probably the Wikipedia page [TS]

  for the sixth generation is listed as the ps2 GameCube and Xbox 720 we ps3 [TS]

  Xbox 360 and the eighth is ps4 Xbox when and where you guys off the charts of 206 [TS]

  generation and you can see how massive the ps2 dominated like if you're not [TS]

  into games or don't fall the industry you might think that was the time when [TS]

  these three consoles existed and if your friends house he always went over if [TS]

  they had an Xbox Xbox [TS]

  thought that generation was pretty much evenly split between like Xbox and ps2 [TS]

  and only with the GameCube are you might say oh I had a game Cuban and it's all [TS]

  about as many as the ps2 and Xbox right now you look at his grass and it's very [TS]

  clear that was the ps2 generation Xbox and GameCube also existed US products [TS]

  more or less it's not you know it was a block and then you look at the seventh [TS]

  generation with the Wii ps3 xbox 360 and you can see the we just shooting up like [TS]

  a rocket ship and then coming down like a rocket ship but still massively [TS]

  dominant in a generation because the ps3 and 360 or just this little lumps [TS]

  underneath and even though they had a more longevity in the way they could not [TS]

  come back from a slow but just unbelievable and it's a model rocket [TS]

  trajectory yeah but the day but deal clue that we dominated that generation [TS]

  may have had a big fall but it went up twice as high [TS]

  actually I think a poll numbers from Wikipedia for that to see what they [TS]

  thought we was a hundred million ps3 ended up being around eighty million [TS]

  Xbox 360 end up being 76 90 said that is because the Wii sales just dropped off [TS]

  in the ps3 xbox kept chipping away like the longer I generation and one on the [TS]

  more the ps3 and 360 was started [TS]

  catch up but it was a blowout in the beginning and middle and then the [TS]

  hilarious its generation trust they have here you know that that gray area of [TS]

  says f cast which I guess is the hip way to say forecast they trying to forecast [TS]

  in the future in 20 starts as an area where they're forecasting into the [TS]

  future but the eighth generation charges all the F cast stone it's hit all four [TS]

  there's one data point that's not right [TS]

  has been out for a little while and the ps4 has been out for a day and has box [TS]

  one is that out so that said let's just make stuff up the future of this thing [TS]

  will be and they drove bunch of lines and they showed that will you be in [TS]

  small that's probably a safe bet and then they show the Xbox on ps4 the ps4 [TS]

  you know being higher but all of none of those lines come close to reaching the [TS]

  pics of the Wii ps2 like they're having that the ps4 top out around like 15 [TS]

  million you know I guess a year or two from now I don't know where they come up [TS]

  with these numbers but let's look at the previous generation it looks like [TS]

  they're basically assuming that the ps4 is gonna sell bad as well as the ps3 and [TS]

  the Xbox wanna be worse than 360 right but I think I would disagree with that [TS]

  because I think if you look at this generation it's very clear as you said [TS]

  like the that Sony is really targeting like gamers this is a gaming machine [TS]

  we're not going to do a whole lot of other multimedia things are not going to [TS]

  be a TV passed through with you know all this other stuff at the Expo is doing [TS]

  they're really just trying to be a really good game machine and so I think [TS]

  I think they're gonna they're probably going to do a lot better this time than [TS]

  Microsoft will and I think they're probably gonna sell a lot more units [TS]

  than and what's in this of casts on this graph yeah and i said im pass podcast [TS]

  that I think of our son talk show talked about this remember that you know that [TS]

  that damn I promise like the tender better hope that is a mark for dedicated [TS]

  gaming over because they can't they're they're doomed if there's not because [TS]

  they can't do anything but dedicated gaming hardware and I think I said I [TS]

  think there is at least one more generation of dedicated gaming or [TS]

  whether there will be a viable for my generation is it that time none of these [TS]

  things were out yet except that we you and even know what they're doing [TS]

  well I said I think late maybe dedication hard does go away and we all [TS]

  play this on our phones wirelessly to our TV is our little Apple TV star [TS]

  parker whatever but not this generation we are at least one more generation of [TS]

  what we know as actual game consoles whether they have fancy other [TS]

  functionality as well and the reason I think that is because the last console [TS]

  generation was like 70 years long which is pretty long for console generation [TS]

  especially at the pace things you know develop in the electronics industry [TS]

  these days and so there's a whole generation of kids who grew up with [TS]

  these consoles who have never seen a new console looks like they start playing [TS]

  when they were 78 or 9 years old and now they're like a teenager and during [TS]

  college or maybe they're in their early to mid 22 something they've grown up [TS]

  their entire life with just one game console or like 11 generation of game [TS]

  consoles there at that age with a have a job they don't have any in spend on [TS]

  except for like you know entertainment going to the movies are buying video [TS]

  games and buying game consoles going out like they don't have a mortgage or [TS]

  family or whatever these people are absolutely positively ready to [TS]

  experience the thrill and excitement that people my age of experience many [TS]

  times over a new game console generation and maybe they heard from the old fogies [TS]

  like us like oh and the Nintendo 64 game out marriage blew our minds and the SNES [TS]

  it was so amazing at the plate JRPGs in like you know they didn't they've never [TS]

  had that the whole life has just been this magic your whole life like the [TS]

  computer that you played with your eight were still playing with the same [TS]

  computer when you were 16 that feels like just way longer than the ages of 8 [TS]

  to 16 then you know the same eight years for an adult it this they are ready to [TS]

  buy it did not surprise me that a million of them went out and bought the [TS]

  ps4 and a one because these people who play the ps3 and maybe their older [TS]

  brothers ps2 and ps1 but they have never been through a console launch so no you [TS]

  don't I think the Xbox 1 launch will also go pretty well you know so so far [TS]

  so good for the idea of there being available for dedicated gaming hardware [TS]

  but I'm not sure that these 1,000,000 buyers who bought in day one [TS]

  represent anything more than the most enthusiastic gamers I'm not sure that [TS]

  they like if you look at the grass is it gonna be something like that we graph [TS]

  where it goes up really steeply and then [TS]

  takes a turn and I don't know if this kind of sales pace can be sustained I [TS]

  think the ps4 is a great product and I think that at the very least everybody [TS]

  who bought a 360 or ps3 would be perfectly has satisfied with the ps4 [TS]

  Xbox 1 I'm just not sure how many of them think that this is something that [TS]

  they need to go out and buy so I'm keeping my eye on this to see not just [TS]

  like a great opening day sounds like it was a negative result like no not vote [TS]

  on day one that would be a terrible terrible sign but having to be such an [TS]

  overwhelmingly positive result like wow [TS]

  biggest first day sales of the new console ever in the history of anything [TS]

  that is nearly neutral I think it doesn't preclude the idea that these [TS]

  sales will taper off and never get up to levels of the ps2 or that we in the past [TS]

  generations yeah I think they were there was a really good quote that I wanted to [TS]

  to relay from CNN tech review today that that basically he has his hands on an [TS]

  exponent and ps4 and so we can you compare them and stuff and first of all [TS]

  I think it's really interesting to see the he took side-by-side videos and [TS]

  screenshots so you can see the differences in the same game ported to [TS]

  both systems and and the gravel difference between the two and meant my [TS]

  the ps4 version looks way better but on the real SP she says the UN early [TS]

  adopter of a next gen console is rarely a fun thing literally all of my friends [TS]

  are an Xbox 360 or ps3 is being online multiplayer people I know is pretty much [TS]

  out of the question for at least a year or so and it's the part that was most [TS]

  interesting the long sign up from both platforms is reasonable but could be a [TS]

  lot better having just played Grand Theft Auto IV and the Last of Us I'm [TS]

  going to need more than CoD or NBA 2k 142 really draw me into the Xbox wanna [TS]

  ps4 this is the story goes that any new console launch and and I think that's [TS]

  that's you know I haven't heard of any must have game should for all three [TS]

  consoles I mean John how's the way you do then that front like Nintendo [TS]

  actually is usually does pretty good about system selling games they've [TS]

  really dropped the ball on the Wii U but even they had more games out of the gate [TS]

  like there's the reason one of the reasons I don't have a ps4 yet is [TS]

  because there were no launch titles that I said [TS]

  the title which is very often the case in on right about this he's old enough [TS]

  to have lived through many console launches and it's gotten worse now that [TS]

  the console makers are on the hook to do not necessarily produce a platform like [TS]

  iOS or Android but they're on the hook to provide network services social [TS]

  networking digital downloads fancy features all these consoles are [TS]

  launching without the full complement of features that were promised and all the [TS]

  the previous keynote speeches David posor in particular and all the music [TS]

  they did launch with all the features they wouldn't want more comments 2 years [TS]

  like it's the long game it's not like an iPad Apple releases new iPad it better [TS]

  be damn good business turnover is coming out there's not going to be another [TS]

  console for like six seven eight years maybe longer [TS]

  this is a long game for these guys and out of the gate their software platforms [TS]

  suck they'll have the features of them want that they don't have they don't [TS]

  work right the ones that are there like all these things of the hardware capable [TS]

  of you know it just like the ps4 doesn't even have a standby mode like it where [TS]

  you don't have that turn the entire life you gotta turn totally often it's got a [TS]

  boo totally up which is like this then you have all these companies [TS]

  presentation saying oh the ps4 is going to have an auxiliary ship to keep it on [TS]

  doing the sucking up doesn't do any of that stuff out of the gate so anybody [TS]

  who's buying this council stuff especially if you are an early adopter [TS]

  of the ps3 or 360 is used to this has been the ps3 launch the software is [TS]

  horrendous like you can even download games in the background and the 360 has [TS]

  begun to many major revisions to all the people buying this I think especially on [TS]

  day one they realize I'm getting a day one console is going to be a piece of [TS]

  crap its hits not going to work right but this exact same hardware 34 years [TS]

  are now boy it'll really be singing they won't happen to any upgrade they want to [TS]

  buy a new video card that want to do anything sup reply software updates [TS]

  presume that will come down faster and people using the ps4 have said that they [TS]

  gotta download software updates much better than it used to all that being [TS]

  said I like you're getting up before the main the main thing about this is ok [TS]

  fine it's it's gonna be buggy it's gonna be awesome pictures that I was promised [TS]

  I'm assuming they'll come later but as long as it has game exit I really want [TS]

  to play an amazing next-generation graphics with next-generation features [TS]

  in the new controller whatever I'll buy it and I don't think the PlayStation 4 [TS]

  has any of those games at this point [TS]

  and that's not a very strong lunch and they sold a million systems in 24 hours [TS]

  without any system selling games there is no merit 64 for the ps4 it didn't [TS]

  even want for Last Guardian for the crazy people like me like there's [TS]

  nothing there is no launch title out there that people say I wasn't gonna get [TS]

  a ps4 but once I saw I had game X I had to get it and that's my guess also still [TS]

  positive sign negative negative sign for the ps4 is game library but I think with [TS]

  these sales numbers and the pipeline of games we don't worry about there not [TS]

  being a lot of games with ps4 but it was not a Nintendo style launched we're the [TS]

  only reason people buy the system is because there's one game on at the [TS]

  absolutely at the play so you know I think everyone involved in this process [TS]

  understands that this is this is not a sprint it's a marathon and I don't even [TS]

  know that we will be finishing that marathon [TS]

  yeah i i really not positive on my outlook of the Wii U's future I really [TS]

  do think that this is going to be a ps4 damage generation and and the Expo is [TS]

  going to be you know second place probably probably you know half the [TS]

  volume of the ps4 overtime and I don't think the Wii U is going to show up much [TS]

  in the chart I give the Xbox more I don't think that is going to be doubled [TS]

  but if you ask me again after the Xbox 1 I'll talk about it again in a year like [TS]

  as they do the thing about the Xbox one is it's a good game machine and also XY [TS]

  and Z and and Microsoft does online and software stack so much better than Sony [TS]

  and that is increasingly important I don't you know it's tough stuff the [TS]

  handicapped this because they're they're very complimentary there's not a lot of [TS]

  overlap in their strengths Microsoft is so strong in the areas that Sony is so [TS]

  weak and vice versa so you know what to say and and these days [TS]

  system selling games are hard to come by with Xbox halo is the reason Xbox exists [TS]

  at all the Halo franchise did not exist I don't think Microsoft would have been [TS]

  willing to put that much money into the console and Sony had lots of systems [TS]

  Final Fantasy seven and all that stuff that made sony Sony but nowadays like [TS]

  this launch titles you know that you see it like [TS]

  IIS gonna kill zone is everyone's got their their one exclusive first person [TS]

  shooter but is that even the most popular first-person shooter what are [TS]

  called duty and all the other you know things that our multi-platform sports [TS]

  franchises are a multi-platform grand theft auto [TS]

  like so many things a multi-platform and even when you get an exclusive all that [TS]

  means is it'll be on your platform in a year or six months or whatever like [TS]

  that's what it's like the only things that are exclusive exclusive our first [TS]

  party games you know which I don't think you can have it was at this point on up [TS]

  hello hello and having 343 studios or whatever do it and bunches often destiny [TS]

  which is multi-platform by the way [TS]

  sony has its own little party in-house things and you know stuff like grand [TS]

  juries most of the intent of course their entire business is built on first [TS]

  party those are never available anywhere and that's like the only reason anyone [TS]

  anymore because the hardware software synergy can get this offer any well so [TS]

  that continues to be in 10 those hope for success or sponsor and then I have a [TS]

  little bit more about Tendo afterwards to wrap up the second I'm actually [TS]

  really upset that Sony killed the Wipeout studio so there's not going to [TS]

  be a wipeout for ps4 games that was about I probably would have thought [TS]

  about that so much I love about it is the only game on the ps3 anyway our next [TS]

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  web very keen to buy something that previously you don't like oh I always [TS]

  have to buy those in person because of reasons XYZ unlike fast-forwarding fifty [TS]

  years in the future and instead of just having a website where you can build [TS]

  your own custom ring out of like pick this book The Jam tix the accent thing [TS]

  but the metal color pick the design and I start building your own thing like i [TS]

  guess i territories like why can't I just 3d print anything that I want to go [TS]

  to website and and they replicated machine will make me you know to Euro [TS]

  gray hot or whatever it is not ask for a creeping up on that and I think that [TS]

  that sales process of sitting in front of a computer including a bunch of [TS]

  buttons and seeing some nicely rendered graphics update with the thing is that [TS]

  you're you're potentially manufacturing or having manufactured on your behalf is [TS]

  so much nicer than driving to a store and you know talking to salespeople and [TS]

  going from store to store in sitting in traffic just sitting in a website and [TS]

  clicking buttons until you get what you [TS]

  it's much nicer and so we're creeping up on the replicator machines although [TS]

  there may be a web interface instead of a voice interface in a box on the wall [TS]

  John you said you had some more stuff about video games [TS]

  yeah I want one final bid on Nintendo and they're asked their their prospects [TS]

  there was some rumors there's always room in 10 2009 and founder these are [TS]

  but just made me think of as rumors well I don't intend on making an Android [TS]

  tablet or whatever I think these three months and they're resurfacing that's [TS]

  ridiculous and every everyone always wants to hear you know in 10 days making [TS]

  out for iOS new tenants gonna do this rendering all these things are intended [TS]

  problem is that they're not a real platform and they don't have one they [TS]

  can't make one therefore they have to like joined one you know instead of [TS]

  doing their own thing and the reason I bring this up is because there is an [TS]

  aspect of it they can make the people who wrote those stories [TS]

  claim victory later like it's not as crazy as it sounds because Nintendo [TS]

  devices do need some kind of operating system you know these days because they [TS]

  don't just it's not just a cartridge in like a Nintendo is just like the [TS]

  cartridge they do other things there is sort of like an OS type player and if [TS]

  you intend to decide that it's better to use Android as its OS instead of using [TS]

  now is there sort of embedded OS and their sake of maintaining and developing [TS]

  into they just want to be seen and read that's fine but that is an entirely [TS]

  separate question from whether or not their devices will suddenly become quote [TS]

  unquote Android devices whether you'll be able to run Android apps for the [TS]

  Android ecosystem even to the degree that the candles are like the Kindle is [TS]

  like our Android in name only barely but they can run applications that are built [TS]

  for Android or close to it right they're not entirely walled off and my take on [TS]

  this is for all we know for all the average person knows I know better most [TS]

  gamers do as well but for all the average person knows the Wii U and 3ds [TS]

  could be running Android right now [TS]

  like it would make no difference in them 10 s it runs under the covers has no [TS]

  bearing on what it feels like to use the device you know i mean and actually I [TS]

  was trying to look a lot like one of those things run I was reminded that [TS]

  they would you agree not the way you but we're on something called iOS [TS]

  capitalized in front of the OS I think it predate the iPhone maybe it does is [TS]

  it a Cisco router other iOS right now it's the same time to things like it's [TS]

  their firmware is not the OS iOS firmware the controls I O and stuff like [TS]

  that I just thought that was funny but the rumors of Nintendo Android stuff [TS]

  keep that in mind because if someday down the road someone says oh my god [TS]

  confirmed Nintendo is going to Android I don't think it's about time around [TS]

  possibly for them to use Android as part of billion their products but I don't [TS]

  think they would ever say the word Android and that you would ever know [TS]

  they were under the covers to have nothing to do with their actual business [TS]

  strategy and had everything to do with just internal implementation details of [TS]

  their software stack and they probably wouldn't be selling their games on the [TS]

  Android Marketplace [TS]

  known as that's a whole different thing and that's something else that people [TS]

  want but don't get too tied up into you know what people are using under the [TS]

  covers Google is moving to Linux I hear and read is based on Linux you know [TS]

  you're going to use Java but they call a Dalek these are all implementation [TS]

  details that have little to do with their business yet so I got a retina [TS]

  iPad Mini and I'm very excited about it has terrible burning image retention or [TS]

  whatever you call it tension and I'm choosing not to care because I'm not [TS]

  Marco [TS]

  to be fair I have also chosen not to care because I went to the mall and [TS]

  waited in the Apple Store for 40 minutes for them to get to me even though it was [TS]

  ten in the morning I even took a picture to show how empty the store was like [TS]

  they were there was very few people there but I waited for 40 minutes plus a [TS]

  trip to the mall you know overall I spent an hour and a half of my life [TS]

  trading in my old iPad for training in the one I just bought with this image [TS]

  pension problem for another one that also has an important problem and it was [TS]

  the only one there had to stop and let you know what you know I'll just take [TS]

  this I'm going to choose not to not care anymore [TS]

  have you found a way to get the screen manufacturer the firmware some crazy [TS]

  things are no no I I wasn't able to me nobody told me anything I didn't poke [TS]

  around I have chosen to not care because in day-to-day use you don't really [TS]

  notice it [TS]

  the tension in general on LCDs it can be very noticeable when it gets really bad [TS]

  it can be like you'll still see like the Safari address bar when you get from [TS]

  Safari letting an element though is there in reality on on the many as I [TS]

  don't think it's bad enough to cause that for most people certainly know if [TS]

  if you do is look if you're in one app that has the centerpiece on at 404 510 [TS]

  minutes and a new switch to an all white screen like you'd probably see that but [TS]

  in reality that doesn't come up very often for me and I think for most people [TS]

  I saw it all the time on the sum of the first gen 15 inch Retina MacBook Pros [TS]

  the ones with the bad screens and I don't know something about the Mac like [TS]

  having a Windows environment where certain elements like the Dockers you [TS]

  know the menu bar or a text window it's in the background and the switch to [TS]

  another apt that has a bunch of any documents you see the text from the [TS]

  previous text window would not be able to do that I am assuming like you tested [TS]

  on the Apple Store are you taking pictures like look at these demo units [TS]

  they totally don't have any image retention whatsoever I tested Diana [TS]

  testing all for that they had on on the iPad table all four of them passed the [TS]

  test none of them had any attention at all however they were also all for wi-fi [TS]

  models I'm hearing mostly from people who are saying that their LTE ones have [TS]

  the problem and so it really does seem like the LT ones were made in small [TS]

  quantities maybe they had to get a lot of them out in time and day maybe they [TS]

  either there's a bad batch of screens in the first big chunk of the lt1 they [TS]

  manufactured or they just have to get some amount of time that they lower [TS]

  their standards of the lt1 either way it kind of sucks but it also not that [TS]

  unusual aqui por saying I had tons of people run the test on the first gen [TS]

  iPad Mini and it it WAY worse and it's it's a more on the edges but it's it was [TS]

  way worse than that paid to head waivers retention so this actually is not like a [TS]

  totally unique thing to just the new many it's actually a lot of products [TS]

  that we've never noticed before so it's not that big of a deal I think other [TS]

  people have made a much bigger deal out of it [TS]

  wood and wanted to on the underwriter MacBook Pros it wasn't like they had [TS]

  like screens five children will tell me if I'm going or what is like from LG and [TS]

  Samsung in like the LG ones had a much worse than the Samsung screens yeah and [TS]

  I actually have one of the bad ones which is why I made that test a year ago [TS]

  in the first place that's the whole reason I mean that test was because I've [TS]

  read about that in a forum and no wonder how much as I made a little test to test [TS]

  it and mine failed but what you are you describing with like you know be able to [TS]

  exceed in regular use I've never had that problem with this may be mine is [TS]

  not as bad as as the worst but whatever brand it was that was the bad screen I [TS]

  do have that brand of screen in the neck approach you can tell in software so I [TS]

  do have that screen but not it isn't that bad and that's what about me a [TS]

  little bit is that like from the first read MacBook Pros like you ok finds your [TS]

  first read the device like this going to be growing pains or whatever you'll [TS]

  sorted out and presumably they did but like this point out they should know it [TS]

  seems like let's do it attention testing as part of the qualifications of vendors [TS]

  or screens like maybe the maybe I would have to think the only reason they would [TS]

  do this either because they don't take the issue seriously enough yet which i [TS]

  think they should or because what choice do they have like this one vendor that [TS]

  passes all that has a flying colors wherever that happens to be but one [TS]

  vendor cannot provide them the capacity need to meet the holiday season so that [TS]

  forced to go over the second does evander which has forced a major [TS]

  attention problems simply because no one else can provide them the number of [TS]

  screens that they need and that strikes me as plausible but either way it's [TS]

  disappointing to me that immature tension was an issue continues to be an [TS]

  issue and frequently when the situation where one manufactured goods according [TS]

  to a good screen the other one you know the bad screen and consumers have no way [TS]

  to tell and obviously it is possible to make without pretension [TS]

  but not everyone gets it and that that's kind of like the bad old days of of dead [TS]

  pixels where I was terrified by my 22 inch Apple Cinema Display because the [TS]

  dead pixels and sure enough I had like three dead pixels which was not within [TS]

  the replacement threshold and I just had to spend you know three years [TS]

  consciously not looking at the one pixel of stuck on white and red and I knew [TS]

  exactly where they are I could pick them online right now [TS]

  like that that bothers me obviously bothers me way more than above normal [TS]

  people understand that but Apple needs to get on the ball that because I [TS]

  forgive them their first generation product maybe their secondary number [TS]

  this point they need to make it like you know they just say look this is our aim [TS]

  of it with color gamut and liked viewing angles and stuff they just have to draw [TS]

  a hard line if they possibly can so much attention deficit stop I'm sure it's [TS]

  very similar to the to the dead pixel thing where you know it's not that it's [TS]

  not that they will tolerate no image retention it's that they have some kind [TS]

  of threshold and I mean this is dead pixels I think they they don't think [TS]

  I've ever seen a dead pixel on an Apple device now we've come out of the dead [TS]

  pixel like at this point I think if you had even a single and you'll probably [TS]

  get a replacement but there were years where they had you know if its [TS]

  three-year than three inches each other or whatever but the thing with the [TS]

  intention is this like the good manufacturer in the bad ones like know [TS]

  why can't they all be the good when I have accepted like this is the best we [TS]

  can do but obviously these 11 vendor can do way better than the other one and a [TS]

  half to just because that one vendor coming off screens but I wish that one [TS]

  vendor would buy the other one they all could be a good one in a year like if if [TS]

  we'd if for us to get the retina many this year we had to accept crap like [TS]

  this I think but see the thing is like that's when the first run a macro [TS]

  process like okay they haven't had sort of but surely year from now when we get [TS]

  on the same page but no we just keep going through this again and again which [TS]

  i think is is the retina MacBook Pro screen I guess their business thing I G [TS]

  00 D stands are indium gallium zinc oxide where the hell that the new [TS]

  low-power Retina screen is what lets you have these devices but you could not [TS]

  have them with the old radar screens [TS]

  took too much power for the backlights right so I guess I'll go back and I said [TS]

  maybe I given the passenger side forgot they just changed green technology and [TS]

  maybe maybe this is the sorting out your the sorting out generation or two for [TS]

  this new LCD screen technology I really the moral stories I really really [TS]

  matured [TS]

  ok there was also an email about this there was there is a test that was why [TS]

  the couple of days ago from I believe display mate there they had a company [TS]

  that that measures and benchmarks display quality and and they ran their [TS]

  tests on all the modern tiny red metabolism have the iPad Mini read the [TS]

  Google Nexus One Nexus 7 I think the new Nexus 7 and I don't want to say the the [TS]

  Kindle HDX and that was it and they came away saying that there's there's a [TS]

  Panera right and and basically that he can to kenneth was the best friend to [TS]

  bring this up last week yes and it uses a hold of it uses like low temperature [TS]

  polysomes Lt [TS]

  Apple couldn't as an option too many units right and its that's the problem [TS]

  like you know that you can make a better at a little better display but it's free [TS]

  probably can't make it at Apple's value and that's that's the problem they face [TS]

  authorities component decisions like they they never used led and and there's [TS]

  there's a few things that they can't really use it if you'll tissues that [TS]

  they just have to make so many of these things that being said though I am a [TS]

  little disappointed like seeing seen a test result seeing like the color gamut [TS]

  kinda sucks on the mini tool I gets the iPad Air Display has a much better color [TS]

  gamut the many has especially in the red zone a little bit muted and a little bit [TS]

  inaccurate and and that I think was disappointed to see that being said [TS]

  again in regular user to have noticed that all I probably never will [TS]

  Apple has to be on the cutting edge but they can't be on the cutting cutting [TS]

  edge when your values lol gambles on our lower any way you can you can afford to [TS]

  be on the super like Apple could have gone so display at the top you don't [TS]

  feel like sailors every time but those are out like a year ago like it's not [TS]

  it's not like they didn't exist at all well there to New known can make them [TS]

  and big enough volume so I can't ever be on the cutting cutting edge they have to [TS]

  wait until and I think I think they're barely making it into like can we have [TS]

  enough of these these [TS]

  screens to go to do it support our holiday park land this year I think they [TS]

  barely scraped by with that [TS]

  low-temperature polysilicon stops it's like you know maybe next year right and [TS]

  the same you know OLED [TS]

  assisted forever but there's been no oh let's set aside all that plus [TS]

  requirements for power viewing angle color gamut longevity that's awesome in [TS]

  the same reason I had seven-inch tablets they were written two years ago from [TS]

  companies like and I'll be right now because you know they couldn't they [TS]

  can't go until that's the price of being as big as Apple is they can press push [TS]

  the cutting edge and they can be like the first one to have really high volume [TS]

  was this great SEC technology but they can't be the very very first anymore [TS]

  unless they do something like they seem to be doing with that big courts factory [TS]

  in Arizona or whatever it where nobody has the capacity to make you know court [TS]

  coated glass screens or whatever we're going to we're going to be the only [TS]

  company that has a capacity we're gonna pay half a billion dollars to make our [TS]

  own factory that we don't know what we paid for most of it and they will [TS]

  exclusively build stuff for us and that's how we will be that's how we will [TS]

  get the events new technology and get in the volumes we need before anyone else [TS]

  but that's pretty much the only road to being on the very very cutting edge as [TS]

  compared to companies that sell low volumes i mean satire instead of course [TS]

  maybe I do mean so far so there's nothing in Arizona so anyways what you [TS]

  think I'm sorry we still hear the show so I liked it quite a bit so I'm coming [TS]

  from my iPhone 5 bass I had in iPad 3rd gen so the the first of the red eye pads [TS]

  on my iPhone is a teensy I'm stormy unlimited plan thus I cannot tether [TS]

  because AT&T is bunch of jerks I bought a Verizon iPad Mini which is the first [TS]

  time that an LCR head and coincidentally day before yesterday Verizon my Verizon [TS]

  FiOS for the first time in five years [TS]

  conked out and it was a very excellent time to happen LTE iPad so I could get [TS]

  online [TS]

  even despite not having internet connection home I should also know that [TS]

  additionally I went to the tmobile store today and $14.57 because of sales tax [TS]

  I picked up a tmobile sim and plug that into my iPhone mini iPad Mini and was [TS]

  able to get cellular data for free because well if you accept the $10 for [TS]

  the same and so that t-mobile thing that people keep talking about it was easy [TS]

  peasy took a little while the store but I don't know if that was a key sales [TS]

  representative thing or if it's just that it takes a little while to get the [TS]

  stuff squared away but now I have a tmobile sim that'll give me 20 bucks a [TS]

  month for free I have a verizon seem that came with it that I can pay for for [TS]

  data and what was really cool was tried using Verizon sim for a bit and put [TS]

  something like any mags on the same way of phrasing it but I'd used about 80 [TS]

  megs of data on my Verizon same I popped out plugged in the tmobile sim used like [TS]

  hers remakes just prove myself that it worked popped the horizons back in and [TS]

  my cellular usage went back to a team X so I was very pleased to see that the [TS]

  iPad was smart enough to keep the two separate and continue to track the two [TS]

  of them so if you happen to have an iPad and I'll see iPad that is unlocked then [TS]

  you can spend for $10 and get your tmobile sim if you live in the united [TS]

  states get some free data which is pretty awesome fantastic do you do you [TS]

  know do it anyway no does it work on iPads to like i mean probably maybe he [TS]

  wants me it's like iPad 3 many and and an error but and four but that would be [TS]

  a great thing to do like if you have like if you if you could replace an iPad [TS]

  and you're gonna give it to your mom something like that that's a great [TS]

  things just get one of these t-mobile things put it in you know if it's not [TS]

  going to use a lot of data but you at least have the option to have this thing [TS]

  be connected somewhere if you need it or four give it to somebody who's gonna use [TS]

  a pretty likely [TS]

  nixon in the chat says it worked with an iPad 3 with Russ my pets right that's [TS]

  great I agree it is a very cool idea and it worked really well to enter makes [TS]

  obviously isn't a lot of data but it's enough to get you behind the pinch which [TS]

  is which is really fun [TS]

  tastic so I'm pretty pleased with that now the only problem is I have as i've [TS]

  to nano Sams I have no idea what to do in the sense that it it's so tiny and [TS]

  will inevitably lose it but that's ok I was surprised by it when i when i move [TS]

  my Verizon service from my first gen iPad Mini to my new iPad Mini in [TS]

  actually set on the first time when I deactivated it basically said said that [TS]

  it was bringing that seemed like they did I can't even reactivate with that [TS]

  seems to me if I ever want to have to go to Verizon store and buy a new SIM and I [TS]

  don't know that I didn't try reactivating it but that's crappy to the [TS]

  magic smoke escape I don't think I didn't see one but that doesn't mean it [TS]

  wasn't there [TS]

  mission impossible thing oh and by the way where nuclear so and I've been asked [TS]

  I was asked on Twitter earlier today what happens when you run out of your [TS]

  200 max I don't know to be honest I would assume that they just stopped [TS]

  giving you data I did pay for my $10 credit card just cuz it was easier but I [TS]

  but the gentleman that had rung me up and said you are you paying in cash or [TS]

  credit or debit or whatever so what I'm I bring that up because it seemed to me [TS]

  like during the activation process he never took a credit card for sure and I [TS]

  don't think that me having paid for the $10 credit card is indicative of the [TS]

  fact that they have my credit card information for anything other than that [TS]

  one sale would probably work just like other iPad data plans always have which [TS]

  is there is no automatic pushing you up into a new plan which is awesome and [TS]

  however Apple negotiated that it was genius but it probably steve Jobs was [TS]

  probably involved but you know it what they do is you know what say you buy a [TS]

  one gig plan from Verizon something once used that one day it'll start warning [TS]

  you when you close and then it just cuts off the data when you hit that limit and [TS]

  it says you know go to settings if you wanna buy more and/or you get more like [TS]

  you know on this date the one-month anniversary next month so that's [TS]

  probably how this is gonna work to which is you can just use it and there's no [TS]

  auto billing you can just use it until you hit you can imagine it'll just tell [TS]

  you and stop and you can go buy more if you want or you can just wait that's how [TS]

  I better but I don't know for sure that's exactly what I expected as well [TS]

  but I [TS]

  haven't run into that yet so I can't say that with any sort of authority in the [TS]

  chat says as far as he understands they throttle to dialogue is what he said he [TS]

  wasn't absolutely positive that was the case but but in other words they give [TS]

  you just unbelievably crummy throughput or like Marco said and that's what I [TS]

  would expect they just cut you off entirely but in terms of the screen yo [TS]

  burning burning retention issues aside it's a beautiful screen the iPad is very [TS]

  very nice and it is a little bit heavier I can definitely tell that little bit [TS]

  heavier than the iPad Mini I had previously which was not else he and I [TS]

  should also note that a friend at work got an iPad air which was not else he [TS]

  and I held my LTE iPad Mini and his hair that was not LTE one in each hand and I [TS]

  could tell you I couldn't tell the difference and I looked at Apple's [TS]

  website and the iPad Mini with LTE the retina iPad Mini with LTE is 341 grams [TS]

  the iPad error without LT is four hundred and sixty nine grams which is [TS]

  120 grams but in my hand my hand was not sensitive enough to tell the difference [TS]

  they felt like they were the same darn weight and that was a really great [TS]

  testament to how the enlight the iPad areas because I swear to you it to me [TS]

  anyway it felt the same as the iPad Mini in my hand [TS]

  chip has an iPad doesn't see ya yet her first new iPad she kept using my hand me [TS]

  down she moved from an iPad to do this was a pretty pretty picture but yeah and [TS]

  you know looking at these two devices again I think I'll echo what everyone [TS]

  else has said like other reviewers have said really can't go wrong with either [TS]

  of them and you you're basically just buying for screen size you know that [TS]

  there is that that very minor performance difference i I don't think [TS]

  anybody would notice it in practice to be honest you know you're really buying [TS]

  into what screen size do you like better and and you can one way you can you can [TS]

  make an easy decision to just buy whatever reason before [TS]

  so if you if you were using a 1st gen Mini and you really got used to that [TS]

  size and you really do you really want you look at porn billion everything the [TS]

  air is probably gonna feel too big for you and so you should just get on the [TS]

  many if you're if you're gonna upgrade get the red no one but if you're coming [TS]

  from a full-sized iPad and you don't necessarily need to get smaller and you [TS]

  do things that benefit from bigger screen like watching video or like [TS]

  drawing and sketching out within a certain games to think that that will [TS]

  benefit from a bigger screen then by all means get the air because you know it's [TS]

  it's a substantial improvement from the three and four and there's pretty much [TS]

  no downside except that it's a little bit bigger physically inside there there [TS]

  is a wait difference but you know in practice the the bigger difference is [TS]

  that this is a much larger rectangle ahead so you know when you hold its [TS]

  gonna it's gonna you know it's gonna have different forces you hold it if [TS]

  you're going up in bed like the Academy will be easier to hold for long periods [TS]

  but the reality is whichever one you've been using before I would say used that [TS]

  one [TS]

  get whatever whatever size classroom before you can probably stay in your [TS]

  size class and be perfectly happy and it and you know obviously the best thing to [TS]

  do is go to a store and try them both and see how you feel but if I had to [TS]

  make it make an assumption to recommend without you try anything I'll just say [TS]

  stick within the size class that you already like you know speaking of the [TS]

  performance deficit between the air and the many that you mentioned that you [TS]

  probably can't tell what is it like seven percent or something like that [TS]

  they just a clock speed its 1.3 vs 1.5 gigahertz but there's also the thermal [TS]

  issues again Antec didn't awesome graph of this where the CPUs in all day seven [TS]

  so the iPhone 5s the retina many and the iPad air all have this thermal [TS]

  throttling behavior where they can work it really awesome speed for like a [TS]

  minute or two max load and they start throwing down for heat reasons and so [TS]

  the iPad air has the highest ceiling for that air can work at full speed for the [TS]

  longest and then when it does throttle doesn't throttle down as far as the [TS]

  retina many and the iPhone 5 [TS]

  of us even though they all have roughly the same CPU just a hair has like you [TS]

  know a more formal Mastercool and everything so I was going to recommend [TS]

  that are going to put in the show no its not only because of the actual iPad air [TS]

  testing but he snuck in there and in the media of you too I think what he's not [TS]

  gonna be a lot more information about the 87 CPU and I was excited to see it [TS]

  like this something some advantage to actually knowing less about this stuff [TS]

  concrete level because obviously those guys who were attacking know so much [TS]

  more about the individual part numbers and you know the supply chains and what [TS]

  the other vendors are doing stuff like that and I remember reading one of its [TS]

  with the 5s review when he was talking about the a seven and saying how are [TS]

  speculating didn't know at that point like Apple to release any information [TS]

  that in any specs and no one had cut the top off the ship yet so we had to kind [TS]

  of guessed it like what you know apple claims to XP don't do some benchmarks [TS]

  and sure enough it is like to expand and what's making that happen or whatever [TS]

  and I'm pretty sure we talked about it as well and I don't know all the details [TS]

  of all these chips are ever likely to have to XP you're not going to get that [TS]

  we talked about obviously 64 bit which may make you go slower all things being [TS]

  equal and then the other thing was like oh so how they getting to experience not [TS]

  to be too costly or whatever and me know nothing about the details of this said [TS]

  well it has to be just has to be more execution units I mean you have to you [TS]

  know to be the same chip running faster and small tweaks you need actual more [TS]

  hardware to do stuff and not on his side knowing more about the details so like [TS]

  well it's not going to be like you know it's not going to be double the width or [TS]

  triple that with in terms of execution is as the A six that's crazy a fifteen [TS]

  doesn't have that size I must be something else or whatever and he was [TS]

  cursed with the knowledge of the individual details of how many excusing [TS]

  you these things have which I didn't know off the top of my head [TS]

  and very caused him to make the wrong call biggest turn up on the top of the [TS]

  things like 26 wide machine with like you know you can do simultaneously for [TS]

  injured two floating point where the machine was like three why but you [TS]

  really do like one and a half is it was dependencies on this journey floating [TS]

  point and like the 87 really is you know your desktop classroom in terms of the [TS]

  within the number of executions use the machine you know out of water being out [TS]

  of orale que no desktop machine isn't it really is such a huge leap into a sex [TS]

  that no one expected and I like how could you get that machine into into a [TS]

  laptop into a phone for crying out loud and you know this iPad air article and [TS]

  other things [TS]

  explain how they did like the cut the memory bus within half they do all these [TS]

  they have four megabytes it on and I S room serving as soon as a sort of an l3 [TS]

  like this they had that look we're gonna cut the memory bandwidth than half but [TS]

  we still need to run an iPad Retina screen how we gonna do that well we'll [TS]

  put this huge SRAM thing here and we'll do this for power savings instead of [TS]

  doing simultaneously fetching from DRAM and from the l3 the check out three [TS]

  first everything out there than they do a second request for a deer and if [TS]

  you're making a desktop CPU would never do that but you have to make compromises [TS]

  for power so they basically found a way to wedge [TS]

  twice as wide machine into the same thing and by making it worse than a six [TS]

  in many different measures but overall being twice as fast as an amazing [TS]

  balancing act when you look at what they did with this thing because it did a [TS]

  seemingly impossible thing when you marry details like oh wasn't impossible [TS]

  it was just really really why's tradeoffs to give them from the outside [TS]

  looks like an impossibility machine that's twice as fast as the clock speed [TS]

  in the same power seems like it should be possible I see where they compromise [TS]

  and if I know how to take it just right I can show you benchmark with the ASICS [TS]

  crushes the a seven but no real applications ever gonna do that comes up [TS]

  for Apple and [TS]

  and I'm tech site and scientific progress in general yeah it's pretty [TS]

  amazing when you look at the live now that we know we've had the whole fall [TS]

  lineup revealed for us it's pretty amazing that the a seven is in all three [TS]

  of these products that end and it basically the same it's almost the same [TS]

  performance in all three and you know when you look at now when the iPhone 5 [TS]

  has come out we were all like that's that was a bigger jump than we expected [TS]

  is now looking at it you would expect that to be only in the iPad air and then [TS]

  the iPad Mini should have had like a dive shrunk a six and then the iPhone [TS]

  should have had an A seven that was you know much lower clocked the new iPad [TS]

  that's how you would have expected this to go and reality you have basically the [TS]

  high-end iPad chip in all three devices with very minor differences and that's [TS]

  really impressive ever just just the difference in thermal thermal throttling [TS]

  and minor clock speed deficits and that's it exactly what it's like and [TS]

  it's the same with memory bus the same SRAM seem like it what it comes down to [TS]

  is that the iPhone 5s that CPU has the ability to drive right not screen which [TS]

  is exactly i mean it's it's really really good and this in our start to see [TS]

  every year since the A four when you know like shortly before that they had [TS]

  acquired PSNI they're talking about doing their own silicon or the rumors [TS]

  were at least every year so far we're seeing quite how much it's paying off as [TS]

  they get more and more advanced into the into the kind of different kind of [TS]

  diversions they can achieve from everyone else's ARM chips like they we [TS]

  start seeing all the custom stuff they're doing you know last year with [TS]

  the with the a six-year to see they're they're awesome new core design and now [TS]

  you're seeing his other daughter up the SRAM so bad it's it's really impressive [TS]

  what they're doing and and what's really interesting is that you know why why [TS]

  isn't Samsung doing something like this you know why why aren't the other [TS]

  manufacturers able to match this as as closely it could be that boasts a little [TS]

  bit head like it you know [TS]

  I i would assume the next generation of parts from other people are going to [TS]

  have similar apples as their first like sometimes I forget that effort by two [TS]

  months by six months by eight months by an entire year we'll see but that's a [TS]

  depressing thing about this from from my perspective is that all these things [TS]

  were seeing going from the NRA machine to go out of order making machine wider [TS]

  putting on RAM like every single one of the it's just a replay of the history of [TS]

  the desktop CPUs before we go back back back in time like back to you know 386 [TS]

  486 Pentium like we're seeing in mobile the exact same evolutionary so they're [TS]

  only enhance crazily constrained power envelope so all the tricks you're seeing [TS]

  here like used to be at that moment when John Stokes was doing all these articles [TS]

  about power PC vs Intel like and you know I came out with Intel's new [TS]

  instruction said they were doing like predication where they would ask you to [TS]

  instruction streams the same time the discard the results of one basement like [TS]

  that always interesting ideas and then pan out someone did and we went through [TS]

  this whole evolution to see how much you know how much instruction level [TS]

  parallelism can you extractor regular programs that are compiled by how wide [TS]

  can you make machine before a point of diminishing returns in the multi car and [TS]

  then cash grants in like we did it already and then we had to reset the [TS]

  clock ok there's a risk machine is in order it sucks but if it's on the phone [TS]

  and then we have to go back through the exact same evolutionary cycle hopefully [TS]

  you know with the knowledge of hindsight like oh we know exactly how to make this [TS]

  nafta because jumping right to the 87 that takes into account like oh you know [TS]

  those designers of the people who know how we did on the desktop but there are [TS]

  still so many obvious things that you know you just look at Pelican did you [TS]

  know the current generation that has stuff inside that we just can't fit into [TS]

  a foreign power just waiting there we know how to do it like it will make your [TS]

  software faster we can clock at higher it will be its pretty branch fiction [TS]

  will be better you'll have a higher cash hit rate we have all these are some [TS]

  things you just can't put him on the phone and so we're just waiting [TS]

  patiently right and hopefully we will get back up to the point you know like [TS]

  it seems like desktop CPUs like that's not where the money is anymore and [TS]

  people aren't interesting advancing [TS]

  so we have to wait for the mobile CPUs and the process that makes them two [TS]

  catches up to sort of where we are instead of their own desktop and then we [TS]

  can start making sort of forward progress in the absolute around sort of [TS]

  like whatever I've used in with the Powerade order to help our number [TS]

  they're up to where they were just like given unlimited money and power budget [TS]

  how fast can a nigga CPU for crazy supercomputing stop assuming anyone [TS]

  besides the government and the NSA are available to buy from us it's kind of [TS]

  disappointing me to see the replay of that in the mobile space is kind of [TS]

  exciting to have it in the palm of your hand the other hand I'm always [TS]

  interesting to know as with the night love of the Mac Pro and everything [TS]

  always interested with the let's see how fast we can really go type of cancer and [TS]

  not merely let's see how small can really go with stuff that we already did [TS]

  it as top five ten years ago so on a final note Sean here the year having [TS]

  some disc woes care to share I had them this was like a couple of weeks ago just [TS]

  forgot to talk about it being at the bottom of my notes this is boring [TS]

  stories not that long but it's a nice mark the end so I was running discussed [TS]

  it on my wife's boot drive and a MacBook Air which the necessity and why was I [TS]

  doing that cuz that's one of the things that I do everything alright it's not [TS]

  called this crusade in Disk Utility go to the first attempt whatever but you [TS]

  know it's like fsck whatever you want to call it check your files system that is [TS]

  structures to make sure they know where everything is on display keep track of [TS]

  you know which are allocated to which files which parts are allocated how many [TS]

  of these blocks are available here to keep track of all the information and [TS]

  that information gets out of sync because they just sucks so I run this [TS]

  periodically you know I didn't know you thought that yeah and I don't know how [TS]

  many other one of you run on your discs are in Disk Utility on your desk with [TS]

  any regularity ever just for no reason no now totally should [TS]

  and that's what they liked what I brought this up on one of my first shows [TS]

  about filesystems I said just tried this code you must first find there is any [TS]

  problems like ok well if you think that go in and look at 10 under stress it on [TS]

  and see if it finds any areas you find any errors that mean something screwed [TS]

  up in the past and eventually those areas accumulate you'll be sad because [TS]

  all directories or will go away and bad things will happen maybe it'll never [TS]

  happen he may be a new computer before that happens you could be fine but [TS]

  things are going wrong on your disk you may not know about its the worst kind of [TS]

  ironic periodically I think everybody should too and I ran it and found errors [TS]

  very often just lying there is a repair but you can repairable and your boot [TS]

  drive you can repair the boot drive you can leave your thought you have to [TS]

  reboot when I Drive so great you know don't command are reboot into recovery [TS]

  mode or whoever it is and then you can repair on your booty even though you're [TS]

  still booting from the same this was the recovery partition anyway I prepare and [TS]

  repair fails and when that happens like you try to use Disk Utility and says [TS]

  well there are problems with this guy couldn't repair your choices are limited [TS]

  that point you can buy a third party products can be apparently diskWarrior [TS]

  something many third-party products can repair things Disk Utility can't repair [TS]

  so if that if you already have one of those or if you're desperately want [TS]

  every parent I would recommend that I had an old version 2 scorer but I don't [TS]

  have enough they wanted to pay for it again I said we'll find the disk utility [TS]

  carry para no big deal I'll restore from Time Machine right so before I restore [TS]

  from Time Machine is nothing I think enough people do and how do you know the [TS]

  Genius Bar people do run Disk Utility first aid check on your time machine [TS]

  volume before you restore from it because you don't do that you could be [TS]

  restoring some crazy garbage hunt you drive from your time so I ran [TS]

  first aid on my Time Machine value and it found errors ok I will repair the [TS]

  times in which I can do without rebooting idolatry parent so sorry can't [TS]

  repair so now I have two discs this utility says Harris on and it can't [TS]

  repair and not only that now the time of Valium won't mount anymore and it's [TS]

  greyed out in Disk Utility and when I try to repair again it hangs in Disk [TS]

  Utility and eventually says it too many minutes couldn't unmatched value which [TS]

  makes no sense to me because not mounted as far as I can tell and it's great down [TS]

  this utility I said alright well finally erase this time machine disk I'll get to [TS]

  argue that a second it wouldn't even let me erases my car its current unplugged [TS]

  had tried to put away at this point most people would be screwed back to the [TS]

  first first place like well those areas but it is still working the time of my [TS]

  hoes by trying to repair with Apple's own disk utility tool that must have [TS]

  been really far gone right but me being a parent a maniac today I still have my [TS]

  second time machine volume and ice analogy I super duper clone and [TS]

  CrashPlan backup so I still have three viable backup so fully liable backups [TS]

  even though I have not really lost my boot drive but has errors and my Time [TS]

  Machine volumes total the house because you couldn't even be repaired so what I [TS]

  decided to have lots of options at this point about the options that most people [TS]

  don't have what it is I do this point was go with the super duper clone and I [TS]

  super duper client had been made that recently so I manually copied the few [TS]

  files that I know been modified since I missed your call was made on to a nice [TS]

  pair partition on the disk then I raced my boot disk and restore the super duper [TS]

  come on by the way I renderscript date on the super duper long before and it [TS]

  restarted check right always think before you do anything with them [TS]

  especially in abacus area because the worst thing you want to do is to just [TS]

  like start spreading corruption around thank you for covering so and then after [TS]

  I had restored their next thing I did was ran just rest and I every single [TS]

  thing I ran all the boys are connected and added fresh backups in all [TS]

  destinations except for the super duper backup and the second time [TS]

  so i didnt do Time Machine backup tool to my local disk I do get a raise too [TS]

  many reboots on another machine and did for bankers and everything else around [TS]

  his first day on set now I'm back into a stable state where I have multiple [TS]

  backups they're all check out their own sync with each other but I saved to be [TS]

  the opening just in case there was something going wrong and I waited a few [TS]

  days after I had done this recovery process see you now is it safe for me to [TS]

  finally tossed my one good one that i think is good that every story one other [TS]

  super but one other backup Time Machine volume saying like this is this hasn't [TS]

  been touched ever it's perfectly fine and worst case I can fall back on that [TS]

  everything was fine and eventually I just love those to sync up to so I guess [TS]

  lessons you get onto this is one backup is very often not enough to say I just [TS]

  had that time I mean I didn't lose the Buddhist Arizona but their own [TS]

  repairable area so what was I supposed to do in that case is leaving there [TS]

  forever and cross my fingers and hoping to get an accumulator whatever it was it [TS]

  wasn't important now that's nuts I mean for me like I i treat any disk error as [TS]

  fatal [TS]

  any anything any kind of a car where to me that that is dead to me that's it [TS]

  it's it's gone but but it's not a hardware this offers like a wrong number [TS]

  of hard link counts are you know I don't know the exact details of each of us [TS]

  plus metadata structure is not a hardware from this important distinction [TS]

  of people you know my hard drive is dying is our if you have a hardware [TS]

  problem usually you know it manifests in ways that are not visible in Disk [TS]

  Utility in any meaningful way like I i you know things frees up in your [TS]

  computer nothing happens [TS]

  terrible noises come from here are drivers mechanical you can detect those [TS]

  this is just merely offer corruptions just surf fine right [TS]

  more backups give you more options not just like oh and I'm safe is that you [TS]

  have options right and their lesson is it [TS]

  disc loans and Time Machine stuff like that have different pros and cons when [TS]

  you have more options if you have a time machine one I have a super duper wanna [TS]

  have an online backup disk loans I really like real like super duper [TS]

  because it's simpler and less can go wrong and it's often faster to recover [TS]

  from this is just a plain old copy in fact you can boot from you can be a [TS]

  backup in a second [TS]

  the bootable clone on the other hand time she gives you multiple backup so if [TS]

  you're super duper call was made after something terrible happened it's no good [TS]

  to you because you really want like three weeks ago whatever so I highly [TS]

  recommend having more than one back up more than one type of backup and I also [TS]

  recommend running this chris did not every day a week but just once in a [TS]

  while just to see what's going on there so this whole story started with you [TS]

  collecting to run Disk Utility I do it all the time I do it you know whenever I [TS]

  feel paranoid so hourly that's not all the time but like many things I i dont [TS]

  I i suspect I suspect computers with externally attached drives more than [TS]

  internally attached ones I run it more often than mine is also also more likely [TS]

  to someone like bump out the cable or unplug your laptop from the Thunderbolt [TS]

  cable mounting the the the drives that are attached through the through the [TS]

  firewire think the back of a Thunderbolt Display and all the things that can go [TS]

  wrong with their system that are less likely to go on my internal SATA drives [TS]

  but yeah i do it work to make sure my backups are fresh make sure they're [TS]

  still working [TS]

  make sure I mean just first is the most minimal check its not checking with your [TS]

  day to be totally host also checking his hey I'm a fascist and I know where all [TS]

  the blocks on the discard know which ones are allocated I know which files [TS]

  they belong to know how many of them there are that's all we're asking the [TS]

  past just keep track of that stuff i mean to lose track sometimes not a big [TS]

  deal of it thought there were only you know fifteen 33 blocks here but is [TS]

  actually 1701 like it's not causing today to be done but [TS]

  cumulation of those little areas is eventually what causes software-based [TS]

  like quote-unquote disk failures that the disc hardware is fine but your dad [TS]

  is hosting some way that you might need something like this warrior whatever is [TS]

  going to brute-force reconstruct the appropriate metadata if you discount and [TS]

  writing your directory structure back out I just wish to do any of this but I [TS]

  do so I do you know John I have a pro tip for you [TS]

  ignorance is bliss no no it's not [TS]

  to the point where the crime starts but I had a backup I used time machine wow I [TS]

  think we just found the beginning of the show we have and let's find the end of [TS]

  the show now thanks to our two sponsors Gemvara and ting and we'll see you next [TS]

  week they didn't meet again [TS]

  like if you have literally four million files and like my average disc like my [TS]

  average you know whatever it takes to fix for you talking about verify disk [TS]

  permissions or verify disk permissions I should say then the show please please [TS]

  don't verify permissions I mean that does almost nothing does something [TS]

  doesn't add anything useful you go to the first date my computer is slow or [TS]

  unresponsive should I dot owned are unknown undermine your boot disk now [TS]

  running on your boot disc while your boot into that disc will just like walk [TS]

  away like it's not you know you can run verify it will tell you this errors but [TS]

  I was just run repair on the business there are any errors and texting is [TS]

  gonna run as a parent takes a long anyway so just pick an external drive [TS]

  and by the way you selected in the sidebar [TS]

  it shows like the disk and then in Denton underneath it is like the volumes [TS]

  that are on that disc running in on the top disk just text checks the partition [TS]

  map sort of you have to select the volume bloated actually check these [TS]

  structures on that volume so that the yearly checking the partition map is [TS]

  really fast and almost always check out and if it doesn't you got big problems [TS]

  it doesn't but then running on the individual this takes forever and I [TS]

  think you will find something small like oh incorrect number of these messages [TS]

  are but like they're just my impression is that it's best plus keeps a lot of [TS]

  sort of the normalized counts of all the structure is sort of like a bunch of [TS]

  structures and then it will have a number that indicates how many are [TS]

  available and how many are there any can reconstruct that count by walking the [TS]

  tree in finding out how many in writing the number there and that number gets [TS]

  out of sync somehow as usually not a big deal doesn't like the easiest time but [TS]

  there are more serious ones getting all the way down to could not repair disk [TS]

  and by the way it will never amount again say goodbye to it and you can even [TS]

  erase that one really frustrated make those like what I can erase the disk I [TS]

  took I took the day off I put it on hold different computer I i reboot that [TS]

  computer eventually got it to raise that disc [TS]

  I don't know a day without problem was that disk data protection now so that [TS]

  one has done the funky stuff to me that I can write your having a timeout are [TS]

  used to test the black billet antenna or something but I was becoming a magnet [TS]

  donor in my vast collection of caviar blacks and another closure so while [TS]

  we're on the topic of hard drives I can't imagine this coming up again I [TS]

  recently decided to make a change in my hard drive buying policy my past used to [TS]

  be that I would I would look at the current you know best bang for the buck [TS]

  capacity and by like one or two of those for the other storage or maybe by two of [TS]

  them to put them in raids and usually that was you know like today that that's [TS]

  probably three terabyte in the past it's usually like one or two levels down from [TS]

  the biggest drive that exist in the market that day I know I never liked by [TS]

  the biggest it makes me nervous [TS]

  well so I i think im deciding to change that policy and now just by the biggest [TS]

  because what happens is now I have this drawer full of like one terabyte hard [TS]

  drives and a bunch of money into the Synology but I don't even have room for [TS]

  all of the hard drives I have innocent it is like now the problem is that when [TS]

  you buy anything but the biggest its useful life span can be much shorter I [TS]

  think that's an asset [TS]

  keeps it keeps you from using a disk that you think that someone was that [TS]

  place was showing the hard disk lifetime grafted to see that yes you see what did [TS]

  you see what happened at three years the need of the grass grows and now you're [TS]

  screwed so like I don't want i don't want to just do it said such a capacity [TS]

  I could use it for four years now don't do that like I would rather have it a [TS]

  joke because it's too small that's that's a positive force in the ecosystem [TS]

  of of my spinning storage area like the affair counterpoint I can totally see [TS]

  that I guess so yeah it depends on how how long you want to use it but I mean [TS]

  like I was having some troubles were like you know I would buy like 21 [TS]

  terabyte discs to make a really fast RAID array [TS]

  and then like eighteen months later I'll grow that space and need more like that [TS]

  that sucks yeah well I mean the sizes now I think it's making it harder for [TS]

  you outgrow now because like three terabyte is now kind of lead the biggest [TS]

  size you can get and it will take you longer to fill that your data needs him [TS]

  not tripled since one terabyte drives for the sweet spot rate so now three [TS]

  terabyte drives the sweet spot but get away with it for longer but in scenarios [TS]

  where you're putting them into a box was gonna be some center right side up and [TS]

  redundancy but yeah I think it's better to go with the biggest possible capacity [TS]

  because like you have built-in hardware redundancy Europe you're putting this in [TS]

  there you're putting them in her to die like I need space you have to over [TS]

  provision so much for these raids kings of the Drobo type schemes or anything [TS]

  else like that you have to his over provisions base so much and the only [TS]

  advanced you're getting is like it's okay one of you can die even to view can [TS]

  dozens of some massively over provision and then yet but I mostly talking about [TS]

  individual drives that are used just as plain old drives internal mic in fact [TS]

  I'm not a multiple times and the opposite of ray died I tend to do [TS]

  multiple lines for disc instead of multiple discs but I'm new to the box [TS]

  that holds much disk space on my new titles with details [TS]

  compliance shark you did I didn't miss you did maybe I mumbled something that [TS]

  sounded like you totally said it I'm going to cut it and you'll see what the [TS]

  context it was it was early on we were talking about like enterprise software [TS]

  sucker fish on the shark yeah yeah yeah I might have said you did say it a lot [TS]

  of things [TS]

  nooks and crannies of profit where they can like sort of live as the big sucker [TS]

  fish on the on the government shocker on the compliance arkansas compliance shark [TS]

  compliance shark [TS]

  my favorites was accident left cast let's make up some numbers here and i [TS]

  like it so precise like it's not even like you know like now we know exactly [TS]

  these exact location lines of what was around I wanted to make it in the show [TS]

  but it wouldn't have time for me to do next week to be a blog post I don't know [TS]

  is a look at look at people who are you are doing trying to get away with using [TS]

  an iPad and what there is there's a great post Fraser Speirs mentioned how [TS]

  he ever he recorded his podcast and just an iPad and Dan bedrooms talking to [TS]

  Merlin on this week's back to work about possibly going iPad only for himself [TS]

  when he travels and it's just like people will jump through the most [TS]

  ridiculous set of hoops to try to cram their life into an iPad only when it [TS]

  really doesn't serve their needs particularly well like that you can do [TS]

  that but maybe you shouldn't like SimCity 2000 on the Super Nintendo like [TS]

  you can you can do that but it's not ideal you probably shouldn't you should [TS]

  probably use a computer for that I think that's what people when people see me [TS]

  using my iPad with a keyboard attachment and little wing standing at WABC [TS]

  I I would love to have a macbook air 11 of my iPad it's because they don't have [TS]

  an air and they cost a lot of money in there you have an iPad like I'm doing it [TS]

  for cost reasons only in every time there every year Mike next year he just [TS]

  ran to MacBook Air like it would be so much better for me like I do not want [TS]

  these two things like it's like the Microsoft Surface like these keyboard is [TS]

  not attached to the thing as much as I love my iPad that environment is made [TS]

  for the MacBook Air and my wife takers and i dont have 11 inch so I get by with [TS]

  it but yeah I see people doing it as a virtue it's like there's a pretty late [TS]

  now you know and they liked it was it was I guess maybe when they was 10 hour [TS]

  battery life versus three or four people like accident iPad is better for years [TS]

  but now maybe not the 11 inch but a 13 inch versus the iPad air the battery [TS]

  life so are similar and it is so much better for us for [TS]

  injury and you can even though you can get a used air even a buy one from the [TS]

  refurb store and I get like get the crappiest 11 inch air model anytime the [TS]

  deal has existed from 2010 till now and for a lot of purposes like if you're not [TS]

  going to use it pretty fairly heavily if you if you guys need something like you [TS]

  know to to ssh to a bunch of servers with when you're away or to you know run [TS]

  a couple of minor things like multitasking or a keyboard or a file [TS]

  system you can actually access that helps like I was reading the post from [TS]

  from freezer about how does podcast I was really like how he moves the files [TS]

  around between different apps on the iPad niches sound like such an [TS]

  incredible sure that our first you have to put the stuff I love ya on the small [TS]

  yeah and then there is there is certainly a price argument but I think [TS]

  for people who are that price sensitive they probably are not going to have an [TS]

  iPad at all it's time versus cost like it I got to do it once a year that but [TS]

  if i if I was traveling all the time trying to type up my pants would have [TS]

  long since I like you have to just you know I'm not buying it because she but [TS]

  also because like I don't do that thing that I do WABC [TS]

  only time I ever do it should also include but don't get too is why I got [TS]

  my Logitech keyboard cover for the iPad Mini today I have I had the ultra-slim [TS]

  for the full-size iPad 3 got that and it's actually the the full sized [TS]

  Logitech Keyboard for iPad is very good and I use it a lot on planes and it like [TS]

  it's it's awesome plans like where I normally I bring my giant laptop and [TS]

  sometimes complain if the person in front of you isn't a cleanse their seat [TS]

  then you really have a hard time using it in his laptop and so sometimes my [TS]

  only option is like small things like iPads and I found like if I'm just [TS]

  wanted to like dick around on Twitter and RSS and stuff [TS]

  putting the iPad in the keyboard tray on on the tray table is really really nice [TS]

  on a plane and of course lasts forever and everything else so I I got the than [TS]

  anyone I even read Lex Friedman review but he says they're all terrible [TS]

  but I gotta try to the Apple store I got it anyway and boy it is small it it's [TS]

  it's pretty uncomfortable I i cant imagine using it for heavy typing but [TS]

  it's like it's I gotta for the same reason we're like most of time I used it [TS]

  going to be used as a stand less in a more more than a keyboard and all have [TS]

  to a prototype no 10 or 14 emails on it over the next year it's not gonna be [TS]

  like a ton of typing but it is it is in many ways very similar to the full-size [TS]

  iPad when I get you would think it is very obvious the same device family [TS]

  things are similarly proportion just a smaller size so it's interesting and I i [TS]

  I think though if you're the kind of person who uses the keyboard cover a lot [TS]

  and we want to type on the iPad a lot I think it's a pretty good reason to go [TS]

  with the iPad air over the iPad Mini is the many covered the same size as the [TS]

  many yeah impossible it it that's it is possible how can you type on that one [TS]

  finger in each and backpacked [TS]

  first two or three fingers i gets its you can do it it's not great guests are [TS]

  trying to pick up the keyboard is your thumbs having red Lexus review I'll [TS]

  feelings having read looks as review I thought is gonna be worse and I and my [TS]

  tribe on the Apple store they have gone out and it was it was better than [TS]

  expected so I couldn't even tolerate the one that was the width of the big [TS]

  business in my wife has the largest thing for the big forward you know I've [TS]

  had two and I and that's why I went with the wing standing cuz I wanted a full [TS]

  size keyboard so that the absolute I couldn't even stand one has to be full [TS]

  size like now that I'm best type of them a terrible typist maybe that's why I [TS]

  need have no I have no fallback technique I just know where the keys are [TS]

  in a full-sized keyboard and I use all the wrong things did all the wrong keys [TS]

  and if anything is thrown off a little bit that's it so far efforts I was just [TS]

  looking up at you can get a refurb 11 inch MacBook Air that is the current [TS]

  generation for gigs of RAM 128 gig SSD 850 I would get an LT for that price [TS]

  though [TS]

  like not use but like I would like to have that could ever have an iPad 3 and [TS]

  I still haven't seen an errand person will but again it's what are you doing [TS]

  with it like it like for my from I need on traveling like yeah I have I have the [TS]

  iPad for the iPhone even for casual stuff like that but I couldn't carry [TS]

  just that like I would rather have this because then would lease with dislike [TS]

  yeah I couldn't i couldn't watch ten hours of video at this in all likelihood [TS]

  but I could you know log-in to a server I could run Xcode if I did it to even [TS]

  the screen space but you can do it you know you can run you can run like a [TS]

  full-size text text text me you know you can you can you can multitask you can [TS]

  easily you can have all these different apps opened used for different things [TS]

  whereas like you know if you try to cram that kind of work for an iPad you have [TS]

  to jump through some hoops with some of the things you have to do like yes some [TS]

  people can can do the kind of work to do on an iPad just fine but it just it when [TS]

  I see people trying to like ramen so much additional stuff and just jumping [TS]

  through ridiculous hoops that like really it would be so much easier [TS]

  because do this on a computer using the wrong tool for the job [TS]

  look into the picture that caused the someone posted in the shadow of the many [TS]

  thing with the iPad Mini Cooper pictures on the website make it look like one of [TS]

  those Casio personal organizers said the little the wide keyboard that people [TS]

  that use I guess the gigantic to 2500 pixels wide screen on top of it is not [TS]

  likely but yeah minor difference for online non backlit passive matrix LCD [TS]

  exactly a green background with black [TS]