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00:17:09 ◼ ► the most older people because it was easier to share files to Dropbox but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/1029">TS</a>]
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00:17:16 ◼ ► can't be using Dropbox we have all these requirements data to be in houses to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/1036">TS</a>]
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00:31:49 ◼ ► to be a television experience with the Kinect built in all the stuff we you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/1909">TS</a>]
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00:32:19 ◼ ► dedicated gaming hardware think you have the economist thing open those charts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/1939">TS</a>]
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00:32:40 ◼ ► I don't know how they can offer these numbers are probably the Wikipedia page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/1960">TS</a>]
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00:32:59 ◼ ► into games or don't fall the industry you might think that was the time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► these three consoles existed and if your friends house he always went over if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► thought that generation was pretty much evenly split between like Xbox and ps2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► and only with the GameCube are you might say oh I had a game Cuban and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/1993">TS</a>]
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00:33:21 ◼ ► clear that was the ps2 generation Xbox and GameCube also existed US products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2001">TS</a>]
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00:33:30 ◼ ► generation with the Wii ps3 xbox 360 and you can see the we just shooting up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► a rocket ship and then coming down like a rocket ship but still massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► dominant in a generation because the ps3 and 360 or just this little lumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► underneath and even though they had a more longevity in the way they could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► come back from a slow but just unbelievable and it's a model rocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► trajectory yeah but the day but deal clue that we dominated that generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► may have had a big fall but it went up twice as high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► actually I think a poll numbers from Wikipedia for that to see what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► thought we was a hundred million ps3 ended up being around eighty million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► Xbox 360 end up being 76 90 said that is because the Wii sales just dropped off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► in the ps3 xbox kept chipping away like the longer I generation and one on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► catch up but it was a blowout in the beginning and middle and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► hilarious its generation trust they have here you know that that gray area of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► says f cast which I guess is the hip way to say forecast they trying to forecast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► in the future in 20 starts as an area where they're forecasting into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► future but the eighth generation charges all the F cast stone it's hit all four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► there's one data point that's not right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► has been out for a little while and the ps4 has been out for a day and has box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► one is that out so that said let's just make stuff up the future of this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► will be and they drove bunch of lines and they showed that will you be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► small that's probably a safe bet and then they show the Xbox on ps4 the ps4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► you know being higher but all of none of those lines come close to reaching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► pics of the Wii ps2 like they're having that the ps4 top out around like 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► million you know I guess a year or two from now I don't know where they come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► with these numbers but let's look at the previous generation it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► they're basically assuming that the ps4 is gonna sell bad as well as the ps3 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► the Xbox wanna be worse than 360 right but I think I would disagree with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► because I think if you look at this generation it's very clear as you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► like the that Sony is really targeting like gamers this is a gaming machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► we're not going to do a whole lot of other multimedia things are not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► be a TV passed through with you know all this other stuff at the Expo is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► they're really just trying to be a really good game machine and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► I think they're gonna they're probably going to do a lot better this time than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► Microsoft will and I think they're probably gonna sell a lot more units [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► than and what's in this of casts on this graph yeah and i said im pass podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► that I think of our son talk show talked about this remember that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► that damn I promise like the tender better hope that is a mark for dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► gaming over because they can't they're they're doomed if there's not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► they can't do anything but dedicated gaming hardware and I think I said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► think there is at least one more generation of dedicated gaming or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► whether there will be a viable for my generation is it that time none of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► things were out yet except that we you and even know what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► well I said I think late maybe dedication hard does go away and we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► play this on our phones wirelessly to our TV is our little Apple TV star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► parker whatever but not this generation we are at least one more generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► what we know as actual game consoles whether they have fancy other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► functionality as well and the reason I think that is because the last console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► generation was like 70 years long which is pretty long for console generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► especially at the pace things you know develop in the electronics industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► these days and so there's a whole generation of kids who grew up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► these consoles who have never seen a new console looks like they start playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► when they were 78 or 9 years old and now they're like a teenager and during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► college or maybe they're in their early to mid 22 something they've grown up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► their entire life with just one game console or like 11 generation of game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► consoles there at that age with a have a job they don't have any in spend on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► except for like you know entertainment going to the movies are buying video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► games and buying game consoles going out like they don't have a mortgage or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► family or whatever these people are absolutely positively ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► experience the thrill and excitement that people my age of experience many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► times over a new game console generation and maybe they heard from the old fogies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► like us like oh and the Nintendo 64 game out marriage blew our minds and the SNES [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► it was so amazing at the plate JRPGs in like you know they didn't they've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► had that the whole life has just been this magic your whole life like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► computer that you played with your eight were still playing with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► computer when you were 16 that feels like just way longer than the ages of 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► to 16 then you know the same eight years for an adult it this they are ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► buy it did not surprise me that a million of them went out and bought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► ps4 and a one because these people who play the ps3 and maybe their older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► brothers ps2 and ps1 but they have never been through a console launch so no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► don't I think the Xbox 1 launch will also go pretty well you know so so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► so good for the idea of there being available for dedicated gaming hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► but I'm not sure that these 1,000,000 buyers who bought in day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► represent anything more than the most enthusiastic gamers I'm not sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► they like if you look at the grass is it gonna be something like that we graph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► where it goes up really steeply and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► takes a turn and I don't know if this kind of sales pace can be sustained I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► think the ps4 is a great product and I think that at the very least everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► who bought a 360 or ps3 would be perfectly has satisfied with the ps4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► Xbox 1 I'm just not sure how many of them think that this is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2335">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► they need to go out and buy so I'm keeping my eye on this to see not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► like a great opening day sounds like it was a negative result like no not vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► on day one that would be a terrible terrible sign but having to be such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► overwhelmingly positive result like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► biggest first day sales of the new console ever in the history of anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► that is nearly neutral I think it doesn't preclude the idea that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► sales will taper off and never get up to levels of the ps2 or that we in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► generations yeah I think they were there was a really good quote that I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► to relay from CNN tech review today that that basically he has his hands on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► exponent and ps4 and so we can you compare them and stuff and first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► I think it's really interesting to see the he took side-by-side videos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► screenshots so you can see the differences in the same game ported to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► both systems and and the gravel difference between the two and meant my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► the ps4 version looks way better but on the real SP she says the UN early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► adopter of a next gen console is rarely a fun thing literally all of my friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► are an Xbox 360 or ps3 is being online multiplayer people I know is pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► out of the question for at least a year or so and it's the part that was most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► interesting the long sign up from both platforms is reasonable but could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► lot better having just played Grand Theft Auto IV and the Last of Us I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► going to need more than CoD or NBA 2k 142 really draw me into the Xbox wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► ps4 this is the story goes that any new console launch and and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► that's you know I haven't heard of any must have game should for all three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► consoles I mean John how's the way you do then that front like Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► actually is usually does pretty good about system selling games they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► really dropped the ball on the Wii U but even they had more games out of the gate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► like there's the reason one of the reasons I don't have a ps4 yet is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► because there were no launch titles that I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► the title which is very often the case in on right about this he's old enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► to have lived through many console launches and it's gotten worse now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► the console makers are on the hook to do not necessarily produce a platform like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► iOS or Android but they're on the hook to provide network services social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► networking digital downloads fancy features all these consoles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► launching without the full complement of features that were promised and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► the previous keynote speeches David posor in particular and all the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► they did launch with all the features they wouldn't want more comments 2 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► like it's the long game it's not like an iPad Apple releases new iPad it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► be damn good business turnover is coming out there's not going to be another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► console for like six seven eight years maybe longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► this is a long game for these guys and out of the gate their software platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► suck they'll have the features of them want that they don't have they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► work right the ones that are there like all these things of the hardware capable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► of you know it just like the ps4 doesn't even have a standby mode like it where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► you don't have that turn the entire life you gotta turn totally often it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► boo totally up which is like this then you have all these companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► presentation saying oh the ps4 is going to have an auxiliary ship to keep it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► doing the sucking up doesn't do any of that stuff out of the gate so anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► who's buying this council stuff especially if you are an early adopter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► of the ps3 or 360 is used to this has been the ps3 launch the software is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► horrendous like you can even download games in the background and the 360 has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► begun to many major revisions to all the people buying this I think especially on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► day one they realize I'm getting a day one console is going to be a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► crap its hits not going to work right but this exact same hardware 34 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► are now boy it'll really be singing they won't happen to any upgrade they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► buy a new video card that want to do anything sup reply software updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► presume that will come down faster and people using the ps4 have said that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► gotta download software updates much better than it used to all that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► said I like you're getting up before the main the main thing about this is ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► fine it's it's gonna be buggy it's gonna be awesome pictures that I was promised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► I'm assuming they'll come later but as long as it has game exit I really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► to play an amazing next-generation graphics with next-generation features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► in the new controller whatever I'll buy it and I don't think the PlayStation 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► has any of those games at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► and that's not a very strong lunch and they sold a million systems in 24 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► without any system selling games there is no merit 64 for the ps4 it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► even want for Last Guardian for the crazy people like me like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► nothing there is no launch title out there that people say I wasn't gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► a ps4 but once I saw I had game X I had to get it and that's my guess also still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► positive sign negative negative sign for the ps4 is game library but I think with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► these sales numbers and the pipeline of games we don't worry about there not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► being a lot of games with ps4 but it was not a Nintendo style launched we're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► only reason people buy the system is because there's one game on at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► absolutely at the play so you know I think everyone involved in this process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► understands that this is this is not a sprint it's a marathon and I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► know that we will be finishing that marathon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► yeah i i really not positive on my outlook of the Wii U's future I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2634">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► do think that this is going to be a ps4 damage generation and and the Expo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► going to be you know second place probably probably you know half the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► volume of the ps4 overtime and I don't think the Wii U is going to show up much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► in the chart I give the Xbox more I don't think that is going to be doubled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► but if you ask me again after the Xbox 1 I'll talk about it again in a year like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/2660">TS</a>]
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00:55:27 ◼ ► quantities maybe they had to get a lot of them out in time and day maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► either there's a bad batch of screens in the first big chunk of the lt1 they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► manufactured or they just have to get some amount of time that they lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► their standards of the lt1 either way it kind of sucks but it also not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► unusual aqui por saying I had tons of people run the test on the first gen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► iPad Mini and it it WAY worse and it's it's a more on the edges but it's it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► way worse than that paid to head waivers retention so this actually is not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► totally unique thing to just the new many it's actually a lot of products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► that we've never noticed before so it's not that big of a deal I think other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► people have made a much bigger deal out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► wood and wanted to on the underwriter MacBook Pros it wasn't like they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► like screens five children will tell me if I'm going or what is like from LG and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► Samsung in like the LG ones had a much worse than the Samsung screens yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► I actually have one of the bad ones which is why I made that test a year ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► in the first place that's the whole reason I mean that test was because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► read about that in a forum and no wonder how much as I made a little test to test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► it and mine failed but what you are you describing with like you know be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► exceed in regular use I've never had that problem with this may be mine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► not as bad as as the worst but whatever brand it was that was the bad screen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► do have that brand of screen in the neck approach you can tell in software so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► do have that screen but not it isn't that bad and that's what about me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► little bit is that like from the first read MacBook Pros like you ok finds your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► first read the device like this going to be growing pains or whatever you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► sorted out and presumably they did but like this point out they should know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► seems like let's do it attention testing as part of the qualifications of vendors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► or screens like maybe the maybe I would have to think the only reason they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► do this either because they don't take the issue seriously enough yet which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► think they should or because what choice do they have like this one vendor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► passes all that has a flying colors wherever that happens to be but one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► vendor cannot provide them the capacity need to meet the holiday season so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► forced to go over the second does evander which has forced a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► attention problems simply because no one else can provide them the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► screens that they need and that strikes me as plausible but either way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► disappointing to me that immature tension was an issue continues to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► issue and frequently when the situation where one manufactured goods according [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► to a good screen the other one you know the bad screen and consumers have no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► to tell and obviously it is possible to make without pretension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► but not everyone gets it and that that's kind of like the bad old days of of dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3476">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► pixels where I was terrified by my 22 inch Apple Cinema Display because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► dead pixels and sure enough I had like three dead pixels which was not within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► the replacement threshold and I just had to spend you know three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► consciously not looking at the one pixel of stuck on white and red and I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► exactly where they are I could pick them online right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► like that that bothers me obviously bothers me way more than above normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► people understand that but Apple needs to get on the ball that because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► forgive them their first generation product maybe their secondary number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► this point they need to make it like you know they just say look this is our aim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► of it with color gamut and liked viewing angles and stuff they just have to draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► a hard line if they possibly can so much attention deficit stop I'm sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► very similar to the to the dead pixel thing where you know it's not that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► not that they will tolerate no image retention it's that they have some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► of threshold and I mean this is dead pixels I think they they don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► I've ever seen a dead pixel on an Apple device now we've come out of the dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► pixel like at this point I think if you had even a single and you'll probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► get a replacement but there were years where they had you know if its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► three-year than three inches each other or whatever but the thing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► intention is this like the good manufacturer in the bad ones like know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► why can't they all be the good when I have accepted like this is the best we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► can do but obviously these 11 vendor can do way better than the other one and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► half to just because that one vendor coming off screens but I wish that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► vendor would buy the other one they all could be a good one in a year like if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► we'd if for us to get the retina many this year we had to accept crap like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► this I think but see the thing is like that's when the first run a macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► process like okay they haven't had sort of but surely year from now when we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► on the same page but no we just keep going through this again and again which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► i think is is the retina MacBook Pro screen I guess their business thing I G [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3585">TS</a>]
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00:59:55 ◼ ► low-power Retina screen is what lets you have these devices but you could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► have them with the old radar screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► took too much power for the backlights right so I guess I'll go back and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► maybe I given the passenger side forgot they just changed green technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► maybe maybe this is the sorting out your the sorting out generation or two for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► this new LCD screen technology I really the moral stories I really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► ok there was also an email about this there was there is a test that was why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► the couple of days ago from I believe display mate there they had a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► that that measures and benchmarks display quality and and they ran their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► tests on all the modern tiny red metabolism have the iPad Mini read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► Google Nexus One Nexus 7 I think the new Nexus 7 and I don't want to say the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► Kindle HDX and that was it and they came away saying that there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► Panera right and and basically that he can to kenneth was the best friend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► bring this up last week yes and it uses a hold of it uses like low temperature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► Apple couldn't as an option too many units right and its that's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► like you know that you can make a better at a little better display but it's free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► probably can't make it at Apple's value and that's that's the problem they face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► authorities component decisions like they they never used led and and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► there's a few things that they can't really use it if you'll tissues that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► they just have to make so many of these things that being said though I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► little disappointed like seeing seen a test result seeing like the color gamut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► kinda sucks on the mini tool I gets the iPad Air Display has a much better color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► gamut the many has especially in the red zone a little bit muted and a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► inaccurate and and that I think was disappointed to see that being said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► again in regular user to have noticed that all I probably never will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► Apple has to be on the cutting edge but they can't be on the cutting cutting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► edge when your values lol gambles on our lower any way you can you can afford to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► be on the super like Apple could have gone so display at the top you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► feel like sailors every time but those are out like a year ago like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► it's not like they didn't exist at all well there to New known can make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► and big enough volume so I can't ever be on the cutting cutting edge they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► wait until and I think I think they're barely making it into like can we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► screens to go to do it support our holiday park land this year I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► low-temperature polysilicon stops it's like you know maybe next year right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► assisted forever but there's been no oh let's set aside all that plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► requirements for power viewing angle color gamut longevity that's awesome in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► the same reason I had seven-inch tablets they were written two years ago from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► companies like and I'll be right now because you know they couldn't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► can't go until that's the price of being as big as Apple is they can press push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► the cutting edge and they can be like the first one to have really high volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► was this great SEC technology but they can't be the very very first anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► unless they do something like they seem to be doing with that big courts factory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► in Arizona or whatever it where nobody has the capacity to make you know court [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► coated glass screens or whatever we're going to we're going to be the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► company that has a capacity we're gonna pay half a billion dollars to make our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► own factory that we don't know what we paid for most of it and they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► exclusively build stuff for us and that's how we will be that's how we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► get the events new technology and get in the volumes we need before anyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/3808">TS</a>]
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01:07:00 ◼ ► my Verizon service from my first gen iPad Mini to my new iPad Mini in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4020">TS</a>]
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01:08:12 ◼ ► is there is no automatic pushing you up into a new plan which is awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► however Apple negotiated that it was genius but it probably steve Jobs was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4097">TS</a>]
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01:08:25 ◼ ► one gig plan from Verizon something once used that one day it'll start warning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4105">TS</a>]
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01:09:03 ◼ ► chat says as far as he understands they throttle to dialogue is what he said he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4143">TS</a>]
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01:09:32 ◼ ► heavier than the iPad Mini I had previously which was not else he and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► should also note that a friend at work got an iPad air which was not else he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4177">TS</a>]
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01:10:12 ◼ ► they felt like they were the same darn weight and that was a really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► testament to how the enlight the iPad areas because I swear to you it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4216">TS</a>]
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01:10:25 ◼ ► chip has an iPad doesn't see ya yet her first new iPad she kept using my hand me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4225">TS</a>]
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01:10:39 ◼ ► you know looking at these two devices again I think I'll echo what everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4239">TS</a>]
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01:10:46 ◼ ► of them and you you're basically just buying for screen size you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► there is that that very minor performance difference i I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► anybody would notice it in practice to be honest you know you're really buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► into what screen size do you like better and and you can one way you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► make an easy decision to just buy whatever reason before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► so if you if you were using a 1st gen Mini and you really got used to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► size and you really do you really want you look at porn billion everything the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► air is probably gonna feel too big for you and so you should just get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► many if you're if you're gonna upgrade get the red no one but if you're coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► from a full-sized iPad and you don't necessarily need to get smaller and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► do things that benefit from bigger screen like watching video or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► drawing and sketching out within a certain games to think that that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► benefit from a bigger screen then by all means get the air because you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4294">TS</a>]
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01:11:43 ◼ ► no downside except that it's a little bit bigger physically inside there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► is a wait difference but you know in practice the the bigger difference is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► that this is a much larger rectangle ahead so you know when you hold its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► gonna it's gonna you know it's gonna have different forces you hold it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► you're going up in bed like the Academy will be easier to hold for long periods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4321">TS</a>]
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01:12:11 ◼ ► get whatever whatever size classroom before you can probably stay in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4331">TS</a>]
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01:12:20 ◼ ► do is go to a store and try them both and see how you feel but if I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4340">TS</a>]
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01:12:32 ◼ ► performance deficit between the air and the many that you mentioned that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► probably can't tell what is it like seven percent or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► they just a clock speed its 1.3 vs 1.5 gigahertz but there's also the thermal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► issues again Antec didn't awesome graph of this where the CPUs in all day seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4365">TS</a>]
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01:12:57 ◼ ► throttling behavior where they can work it really awesome speed for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► minute or two max load and they start throwing down for heat reasons and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► the iPad air has the highest ceiling for that air can work at full speed for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► longest and then when it does throttle doesn't throttle down as far as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► of us even though they all have roughly the same CPU just a hair has like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► know a more formal Mastercool and everything so I was going to recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► that are going to put in the show no its not only because of the actual iPad air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► testing but he snuck in there and in the media of you too I think what he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► gonna be a lot more information about the 87 CPU and I was excited to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► like this something some advantage to actually knowing less about this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► concrete level because obviously those guys who were attacking know so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► more about the individual part numbers and you know the supply chains and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► the other vendors are doing stuff like that and I remember reading one of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4433">TS</a>]
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01:14:02 ◼ ► speculating didn't know at that point like Apple to release any information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► that in any specs and no one had cut the top off the ship yet so we had to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► of guessed it like what you know apple claims to XP don't do some benchmarks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► and sure enough it is like to expand and what's making that happen or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► and I'm pretty sure we talked about it as well and I don't know all the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► of all these chips are ever likely to have to XP you're not going to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► we talked about obviously 64 bit which may make you go slower all things being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► equal and then the other thing was like oh so how they getting to experience not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► to be too costly or whatever and me know nothing about the details of this said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4474">TS</a>]
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01:14:42 ◼ ► know to be the same chip running faster and small tweaks you need actual more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► hardware to do stuff and not on his side knowing more about the details so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4487">TS</a>]
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01:15:25 ◼ ► point and like the 87 really is you know your desktop classroom in terms of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► within the number of executions use the machine you know out of water being out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► of orale que no desktop machine isn't it really is such a huge leap into a sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4535">TS</a>]
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01:15:43 ◼ ► laptop into a phone for crying out loud and you know this iPad air article and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► explain how they did like the cut the memory bus within half they do all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► they have four megabytes it on and I S room serving as soon as a sort of an l3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► like this they had that look we're gonna cut the memory bandwidth than half but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4563">TS</a>]
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01:16:09 ◼ ► put this huge SRAM thing here and we'll do this for power savings instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► doing simultaneously fetching from DRAM and from the l3 the check out three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► first everything out there than they do a second request for a deer and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► you're making a desktop CPU would never do that but you have to make compromises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► for power so they basically found a way to wedge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► twice as wide machine into the same thing and by making it worse than a six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► in many different measures but overall being twice as fast as an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► balancing act when you look at what they did with this thing because it did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4599">TS</a>]
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01:16:45 ◼ ► it was just really really why's tradeoffs to give them from the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► looks like an impossibility machine that's twice as fast as the clock speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► in the same power seems like it should be possible I see where they compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► and if I know how to take it just right I can show you benchmark with the ASICS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► crushes the a seven but no real applications ever gonna do that comes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► and I'm tech site and scientific progress in general yeah it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► amazing when you look at the live now that we know we've had the whole fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► lineup revealed for us it's pretty amazing that the a seven is in all three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► of these products that end and it basically the same it's almost the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► performance in all three and you know when you look at now when the iPhone 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► has come out we were all like that's that was a bigger jump than we expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► is now looking at it you would expect that to be only in the iPad air and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► the iPad Mini should have had like a dive shrunk a six and then the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► should have had an A seven that was you know much lower clocked the new iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4668">TS</a>]
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01:17:57 ◼ ► high-end iPad chip in all three devices with very minor differences and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4677">TS</a>]
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01:18:06 ◼ ► and minor clock speed deficits and that's it exactly what it's like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4686">TS</a>]
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01:18:32 ◼ ► acquired PSNI they're talking about doing their own silicon or the rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4712">TS</a>]
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01:18:46 ◼ ► diversions they can achieve from everyone else's ARM chips like they we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► start seeing all the custom stuff they're doing you know last year with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4730">TS</a>]
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01:19:41 ◼ ► putting on RAM like every single one of the it's just a replay of the history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► the desktop CPUs before we go back back back in time like back to you know 386 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► 486 Pentium like we're seeing in mobile the exact same evolutionary so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► only enhance crazily constrained power envelope so all the tricks you're seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► here like used to be at that moment when John Stokes was doing all these articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► about power PC vs Intel like and you know I came out with Intel's new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► instruction said they were doing like predication where they would ask you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► instruction streams the same time the discard the results of one basement like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► that always interesting ideas and then pan out someone did and we went through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► this whole evolution to see how much you know how much instruction level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► parallelism can you extractor regular programs that are compiled by how wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► can you make machine before a point of diminishing returns in the multi car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► then cash grants in like we did it already and then we had to reset the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► clock ok there's a risk machine is in order it sucks but if it's on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► and then we have to go back through the exact same evolutionary cycle hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► you know with the knowledge of hindsight like oh we know exactly how to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► nafta because jumping right to the 87 that takes into account like oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4851">TS</a>]
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01:21:02 ◼ ► know the current generation that has stuff inside that we just can't fit into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► a foreign power just waiting there we know how to do it like it will make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► software faster we can clock at higher it will be its pretty branch fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► will be better you'll have a higher cash hit rate we have all these are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► things you just can't put him on the phone and so we're just waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► patiently right and hopefully we will get back up to the point you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► it seems like desktop CPUs like that's not where the money is anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► people aren't interesting advancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► so we have to wait for the mobile CPUs and the process that makes them two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► catches up to sort of where we are instead of their own desktop and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► can start making sort of forward progress in the absolute around sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4896">TS</a>]
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01:21:43 ◼ ► they're up to where they were just like given unlimited money and power budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► how fast can a nigga CPU for crazy supercomputing stop assuming anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► besides the government and the NSA are available to buy from us it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► disappointing me to see the replay of that in the mobile space is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4916">TS</a>]
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01:22:02 ◼ ► interesting to know as with the night love of the Mac Pro and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► always interested with the let's see how fast we can really go type of cancer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► not merely let's see how small can really go with stuff that we already did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► it as top five ten years ago so on a final note Sean here the year having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► some disc woes care to share I had them this was like a couple of weeks ago just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► forgot to talk about it being at the bottom of my notes this is boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► stories not that long but it's a nice mark the end so I was running discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► it on my wife's boot drive and a MacBook Air which the necessity and why was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► doing that cuz that's one of the things that I do everything alright it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► called this crusade in Disk Utility go to the first attempt whatever but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► know it's like fsck whatever you want to call it check your files system that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► structures to make sure they know where everything is on display keep track of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► you know which are allocated to which files which parts are allocated how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► of these blocks are available here to keep track of all the information and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► that information gets out of sync because they just sucks so I run this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► periodically you know I didn't know you thought that yeah and I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► many other one of you run on your discs are in Disk Utility on your desk with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► any regularity ever just for no reason no now totally should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► and that's what they liked what I brought this up on one of my first shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► about filesystems I said just tried this code you must first find there is any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► problems like ok well if you think that go in and look at 10 under stress it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► and see if it finds any areas you find any errors that mean something screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► up in the past and eventually those areas accumulate you'll be sad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► all directories or will go away and bad things will happen maybe it'll never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► happen he may be a new computer before that happens you could be fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► things are going wrong on your disk you may not know about its the worst kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► ironic periodically I think everybody should too and I ran it and found errors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► very often just lying there is a repair but you can repairable and your boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► drive you can repair the boot drive you can leave your thought you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► reboot when I Drive so great you know don't command are reboot into recovery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► mode or whoever it is and then you can repair on your booty even though you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► still booting from the same this was the recovery partition anyway I prepare and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► repair fails and when that happens like you try to use Disk Utility and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► well there are problems with this guy couldn't repair your choices are limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► that point you can buy a third party products can be apparently diskWarrior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► something many third-party products can repair things Disk Utility can't repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► so if that if you already have one of those or if you're desperately want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► every parent I would recommend that I had an old version 2 scorer but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► have enough they wanted to pay for it again I said we'll find the disk utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► carry para no big deal I'll restore from Time Machine right so before I restore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5084">TS</a>]
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01:24:53 ◼ ► Genius Bar people do run Disk Utility first aid check on your time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► volume before you restore from it because you don't do that you could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► restoring some crazy garbage hunt you drive from your time so I ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► first aid on my Time Machine value and it found errors ok I will repair the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► times in which I can do without rebooting idolatry parent so sorry can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► repair so now I have two discs this utility says Harris on and it can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► repair and not only that now the time of Valium won't mount anymore and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► greyed out in Disk Utility and when I try to repair again it hangs in Disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► Utility and eventually says it too many minutes couldn't unmatched value which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► makes no sense to me because not mounted as far as I can tell and it's great down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► this utility I said alright well finally erase this time machine disk I'll get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► argue that a second it wouldn't even let me erases my car its current unplugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► had tried to put away at this point most people would be screwed back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► first first place like well those areas but it is still working the time of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► hoes by trying to repair with Apple's own disk utility tool that must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► been really far gone right but me being a parent a maniac today I still have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► second time machine volume and ice analogy I super duper clone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► CrashPlan backup so I still have three viable backup so fully liable backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► even though I have not really lost my boot drive but has errors and my Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► Machine volumes total the house because you couldn't even be repaired so what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► decided to have lots of options at this point about the options that most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► don't have what it is I do this point was go with the super duper clone and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► super duper client had been made that recently so I manually copied the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► files that I know been modified since I missed your call was made on to a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► pair partition on the disk then I raced my boot disk and restore the super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► come on by the way I renderscript date on the super duper long before and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► restarted check right always think before you do anything with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► especially in abacus area because the worst thing you want to do is to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► like start spreading corruption around thank you for covering so and then after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► I had restored their next thing I did was ran just rest and I every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► thing I ran all the boys are connected and added fresh backups in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► destinations except for the super duper backup and the second time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► so i didnt do Time Machine backup tool to my local disk I do get a raise too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► many reboots on another machine and did for bankers and everything else around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► his first day on set now I'm back into a stable state where I have multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► backups they're all check out their own sync with each other but I saved to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► the opening just in case there was something going wrong and I waited a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► days after I had done this recovery process see you now is it safe for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► finally tossed my one good one that i think is good that every story one other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► super but one other backup Time Machine volume saying like this is this hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► been touched ever it's perfectly fine and worst case I can fall back on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► everything was fine and eventually I just love those to sync up to so I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5276">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► lessons you get onto this is one backup is very often not enough to say I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► had that time I mean I didn't lose the Buddhist Arizona but their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► repairable area so what was I supposed to do in that case is leaving there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► forever and cross my fingers and hoping to get an accumulator whatever it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► wasn't important now that's nuts I mean for me like I i treat any disk error as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► any anything any kind of a car where to me that that is dead to me that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► it's it's gone but but it's not a hardware this offers like a wrong number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► of hard link counts are you know I don't know the exact details of each of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► plus metadata structure is not a hardware from this important distinction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► of people you know my hard drive is dying is our if you have a hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► problem usually you know it manifests in ways that are not visible in Disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5322">TS</a>]
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01:28:52 ◼ ► terrible noises come from here are drivers mechanical you can detect those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5332">TS</a>]
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01:29:05 ◼ ► have options right and their lesson is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► disc loans and Time Machine stuff like that have different pros and cons when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5348">TS</a>]
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01:29:18 ◼ ► have an online backup disk loans I really like real like super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5358">TS</a>]
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01:29:27 ◼ ► from this is just a plain old copy in fact you can boot from you can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5367">TS</a>]
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01:30:01 ◼ ► feel paranoid so hourly that's not all the time but like many things I i dont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5401">TS</a>]
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01:30:13 ◼ ► internally attached ones I run it more often than mine is also also more likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► to someone like bump out the cable or unplug your laptop from the Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► cable mounting the the the drives that are attached through the through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► firewire think the back of a Thunderbolt Display and all the things that can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► wrong with their system that are less likely to go on my internal SATA drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► but yeah i do it work to make sure my backups are fresh make sure they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5435">TS</a>]
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01:30:44 ◼ ► day to be totally host also checking his hey I'm a fascist and I know where all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5444">TS</a>]
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01:31:11 ◼ ► like quote-unquote disk failures that the disc hardware is fine but your dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► is hosting some way that you might need something like this warrior whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► going to brute-force reconstruct the appropriate metadata if you discount and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5479">TS</a>]
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01:33:11 ◼ ► average you know whatever it takes to fix for you talking about verify disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5591">TS</a>]
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01:33:26 ◼ ► doesn't add anything useful you go to the first date my computer is slow or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5606">TS</a>]
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01:33:34 ◼ ► running on your boot disc while your boot into that disc will just like walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5614">TS</a>]
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01:33:48 ◼ ► gonna run as a parent takes a long anyway so just pick an external drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► and by the way you selected in the sidebar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► it shows like the disk and then in Denton underneath it is like the volumes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► that are on that disc running in on the top disk just text checks the partition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► map sort of you have to select the volume bloated actually check these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► structures on that volume so that the yearly checking the partition map is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► really fast and almost always check out and if it doesn't you got big problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5648">TS</a>]
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01:34:25 ◼ ► sort of the normalized counts of all the structure is sort of like a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► structures and then it will have a number that indicates how many are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► available and how many are there any can reconstruct that count by walking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► tree in finding out how many in writing the number there and that number gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► out of sync somehow as usually not a big deal doesn't like the easiest time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► there are more serious ones getting all the way down to could not repair disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► and by the way it will never amount again say goodbye to it and you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5689">TS</a>]
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01:34:57 ◼ ► took I took the day off I put it on hold different computer I i reboot that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► computer eventually got it to raise that disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► I don't know a day without problem was that disk data protection now so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► one has done the funky stuff to me that I can write your having a timeout are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5708">TS</a>]
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01:35:40 ◼ ► capacity and by like one or two of those for the other storage or maybe by two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► them to put them in raids and usually that was you know like today that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► probably three terabyte in the past it's usually like one or two levels down from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► the biggest drive that exist in the market that day I know I never liked by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► well so I i think im deciding to change that policy and now just by the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► because what happens is now I have this drawer full of like one terabyte hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► drives and a bunch of money into the Synology but I don't even have room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► all of the hard drives I have innocent it is like now the problem is that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► you buy anything but the biggest its useful life span can be much shorter I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► keeps it keeps you from using a disk that you think that someone was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► place was showing the hard disk lifetime grafted to see that yes you see what did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5799">TS</a>]
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01:36:47 ◼ ► screwed so like I don't want i don't want to just do it said such a capacity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5807">TS</a>]
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01:36:55 ◼ ► joke because it's too small that's that's a positive force in the ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► of of my spinning storage area like the affair counterpoint I can totally see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5819">TS</a>]
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01:37:10 ◼ ► like I was having some troubles were like you know I would buy like 21 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► terabyte discs to make a really fast RAID array [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► and then like eighteen months later I'll grow that space and need more like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► that sucks yeah well I mean the sizes now I think it's making it harder for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► you outgrow now because like three terabyte is now kind of lead the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► size you can get and it will take you longer to fill that your data needs him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► not tripled since one terabyte drives for the sweet spot rate so now three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► terabyte drives the sweet spot but get away with it for longer but in scenarios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► where you're putting them into a box was gonna be some center right side up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► redundancy but yeah I think it's better to go with the biggest possible capacity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► because like you have built-in hardware redundancy Europe you're putting this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► there you're putting them in her to die like I need space you have to over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5875">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► provision so much for these raids kings of the Drobo type schemes or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► else like that you have to his over provisions base so much and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► advanced you're getting is like it's okay one of you can die even to view can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► dozens of some massively over provision and then yet but I mostly talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► individual drives that are used just as plain old drives internal mic in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► I'm not a multiple times and the opposite of ray died I tend to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► multiple lines for disc instead of multiple discs but I'm new to the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► that holds much disk space on my new titles with details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► compliance shark you did I didn't miss you did maybe I mumbled something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5914">TS</a>]
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01:38:49 ◼ ► context it was it was early on we were talking about like enterprise software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► sucker fish on the shark yeah yeah yeah I might have said you did say it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5932">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► nooks and crannies of profit where they can like sort of live as the big sucker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► fish on the on the government shocker on the compliance arkansas compliance shark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5946">TS</a>]
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01:39:22 ◼ ► these exact location lines of what was around I wanted to make it in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► but it wouldn't have time for me to do next week to be a blog post I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► is a look at look at people who are you are doing trying to get away with using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► an iPad and what there is there's a great post Fraser Speirs mentioned how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► he ever he recorded his podcast and just an iPad and Dan bedrooms talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► Merlin on this week's back to work about possibly going iPad only for himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► when he travels and it's just like people will jump through the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► ridiculous set of hoops to try to cram their life into an iPad only when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► really doesn't serve their needs particularly well like that you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► that but maybe you shouldn't like SimCity 2000 on the Super Nintendo like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► you can you can do that but it's not ideal you probably shouldn't you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► probably use a computer for that I think that's what people when people see me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► using my iPad with a keyboard attachment and little wing standing at WABC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► I I would love to have a macbook air 11 of my iPad it's because they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► an air and they cost a lot of money in there you have an iPad like I'm doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► for cost reasons only in every time there every year Mike next year he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► ran to MacBook Air like it would be so much better for me like I do not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► these two things like it's like the Microsoft Surface like these keyboard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► not attached to the thing as much as I love my iPad that environment is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► for the MacBook Air and my wife takers and i dont have 11 inch so I get by with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6052">TS</a>]
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01:41:01 ◼ ► now you know and they liked it was it was I guess maybe when they was 10 hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► battery life versus three or four people like accident iPad is better for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► but now maybe not the 11 inch but a 13 inch versus the iPad air the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6070">TS</a>]
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01:41:21 ◼ ► injury and you can even though you can get a used air even a buy one from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► refurb store and I get like get the crappiest 11 inch air model anytime the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6086">TS</a>]
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01:41:37 ◼ ► going to use it pretty fairly heavily if you if you guys need something like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► know to to ssh to a bunch of servers with when you're away or to you know run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR0qJls/6100">TS</a>]
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