00:00:00 ◼ ► I want to see you discipline your kids John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► No you don't you know your wife you'll see how ineffectual I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► when we meet in person with my kids sometime in the future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/6">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► Do you use the I'm really disappointed in you approach or don't care. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/10">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► OK you'll learn that you are the least impressive intimidating thick just they get used to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/14">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► What happens in so many respects they look up to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/24">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► and the things that you do have such a profound effect on so many other ways strangers are much better able to control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► and discipline them until they get used to the strangers and they're scared to have a school year and just ask Aaron. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/32">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► The beginning of the year they're intimidated by you you're an authoritarian at the end of the year the badly behaved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/37">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► kids just like I know that person and they just are given off. OK so let's do some follow up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/42">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► So let's talk about i Tunes on Windows and this was something that I did not know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/49">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► So John you've got an interesting tweet in the last week or so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► Yeah and obviously none of us know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► but I think on Windows because how many of us I think the last time I even saw it turns on Windows is probably like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/59">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► my Windows X.P. Boot camp partition it probably made me install on some point and I've probably X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/63">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► but anyway chucker tweeted that Windows has a bunch of cocoa crap in it apparently there's an obscene D.L.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/70">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► and A core video to think or video business failure that you remember of course video is an object of the F.B.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/77">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► I've never even heard of it I mean their quick time care but I mean like what you're talking about like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/85">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► and actually beyond just i Tunes for windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/89">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► when they need safari for windows there was also a bunch of the stuff they poured over like the whole text system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/92">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► Yeah which is which is why Safari rendered fonts on Windows the way Macs render fonts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/97">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► Yeah so anyway I tend to run as has been progressing and obviously it's not stuck in the bad old days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/102">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► when it was I mean it was originally based off those like libraries that they had ported for a quick time for Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/108">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► but it has always expanded since then. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► From what I we've heard from various people who still use i Tunes on Windows despite it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/115">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► Foundations being you know based partly on cocoa Objective C. Stuff it is still not a good app on Windows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/120">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► So but it's an excellent app on the math people do not say that either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/127">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► I mean obviously I see all the feedback that agrees with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/131">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► but I don't what have you guys been seeing of like toward Twitter feedback an e-mail feedback about i Tunes I'd say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/134">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► saw probably two thirds in favor of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► and one third in our camp roughly would you say the same Arca I didn't really see much about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/142">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► or that my Twitter stream isn't filled with other things recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► but I think I you know I think another point to bring up here which isn't directly related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/151">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► but I think is relevant the way Apple software works on Windows first with Quick Time player back in the early days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/160">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► and then now that with i Tunes I want safari. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► It angers so many windows people I know they used to be one because it doesn't it doesn't work the way Windows software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/169">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► works it is not a good platform citizen it is not native. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► It is like you know an Apple Apple is dropped poorly on to Windows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/178">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► It's always like this giant pile of hacks and windows people hate them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/183">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► They absolutely hate and Geeks hate them and I think that actually contributes a lot to P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/187">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► Users hatred of Apple sometimes because like you know the geeks have seen quick time player for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/191">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► and all the crap it did and all the weird stuff it installed in the system tray thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/198">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► and all this you know that's all the extensions it took and it was it was a really bad citizen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/203">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► Sorry for Windows didn't catch on for many reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/208">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► but that is one of the many reasons that it didn't catch on to give a toll it looks like a weird gross very Who knows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/211">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► Far for the mac somehow made to virtualize on Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► and they finally can the thing I was a couple years back that they stop developing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/219">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► Yeah I think I was about two years ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► Yeah I mean it which is a shame because Web Kit on Windows is definitely a viable thing to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/226">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► Chrome is popular and windows and chrome is not particularly windows like it is more Windows like and Safari was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/230">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► but it just goes to show that Apple could have had it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/236">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► Viable browser on Windows if they weren't so married to making it look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► and act as close as possible as the mac version right down to the crazy text rendering that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/243">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► when this people hate it because it would use Clear Type it would use the mac fun rendering which look wrong to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/247">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► everybody who uses Windows. All right. Lightning cables. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/253">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► Apparently this is becoming the fall of the never ends we have some more into the clarification and damage causes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/258">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► Never did talk about warranties last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/267">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► and I said you know if you have a lightning cable that's better something bring in the Apple Store maybe you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/268">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► I'm wrong but I didn't say what I hoped was clear it apparently wasn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/274">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► If you have something with bunny rabbit devices that goes wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► and it's still under warranty you can get a warranty replacement. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/282">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► Now in the case of cables it's still a gray area where if you brand something that was clearly chewed by a cat you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/286">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► you are you know the mercy of the Apple genius that they want to be nice because I think like damage caused by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/291">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► or suddenly you know I could drop your i Phone in the water unless you had that special Apple Care Plus that gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/298">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► There you know there are nuances to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/305">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► but in general if you're within the warranty period yes by all means bring it in you'll almost certainly get something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/308">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► that what I was talking about is if you're not in the warranty period and you still have a broken cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/312">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► and you feel I should have broken after you know a year and a half you can bring that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/316">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► and we got some feedback here from Jim who said the genius of the genius at the apple bar you know what I mean that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/322">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► standard rule is that you should bring it in before it fully splits like before the casing splits open because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/333">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► reluctant to replace it once it is split so it's better to take an early stake in if it looks like it's wearing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/339">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► or whatever but then that's just one what one person said lots of other people said hey I bought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/343">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► and it was totally mangled they gave me a new one or both of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/347">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► and I was like five years old no problem gave me no you know lots of people saying they got new ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/350">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► and it's not a big deal I don't think anyone wrote in to say they had they took it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/354">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► A cable that was damaged and got turned away and you would think you would hear a couple of stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/360">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► but they were it seems like if you have a damaged cable to go to the Apple store if you're under warranty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/365">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► or if you're nice or both You'll probably get a new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► and for the damage caused all manner of people speculated about what might be causing it like ours aren't broken every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/372">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► else is our and we talk about pulling it out by the cable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► Another common thing cited by a lot of people responding to us who a lot of people attributed this advice travel teens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/382">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► as well is don't use your Iowa's device while it's plugged in you know to the charger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/389">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► or whatever because obviously protection strain on the thing and I think one person I would hit save the tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/393">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► but I didn't one person said they had taken to using their i Pad with a lightning cable plugged in the bottom with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/398">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► i Pad resting on the lightning cables so I can you know in portrait orientation resting on the lighting cable that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/405">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► not you know that's exactly what people like us are thinking like what are these children to their Cable who they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/410">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► arresting people when they read their book don't do that that's not that's terrible for the cable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/416">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► Yeah yeah I just turned upside down you better want to research now into yet another beer and as you can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/421">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► and not every app supports that right because that's our intention that assets actually explicitly support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/428">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► and how about Cindy Shetty shooting. Yeah good job I'm glad you tried to pronounce that one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/434">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► See I'm assuming said you're right about cable sheep being quote Johnny Ive situation well sort of tell me about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/441">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► was a couple weeks ago saying you know it could be I was mostly joking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/447">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► but I'm saying it could be one of those situations where the string really looks nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/451">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► when it doesn't look like a traditional strain relief like the little you know concentric rings or ridges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/455">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► or whatever instead of cables is of a smooth for the thicker sleeve over the connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/460">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► and we've got a link to a Reddit thread were some of that used to work for Apple claims that that is exactly the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/466">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► but the basis of this claims of making these claims I can tell is not particularly Saudis as the saying industrial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/472">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► design run. Everything at Apple and he find a totally plausible that you know he says they just resign. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/479">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► Hartman hates how much strain really looks like a power adapter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/486">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► They would much prefer to have a nice clean transition between the cable and the plug but it's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/489">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► and that is I'm sure the engineering division gave every reason a robust range of relief should look like the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/493">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► rings and I'm sure they got overwritten. So it's kind of like hearsay and speculation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/498">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► Slightly more support because this person used the work of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► and he's claiming to know that the industrial design department itself little ring pattern type thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/507">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► I don't know when I was reading this thing I was looking down on my headphones that are in my head now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/512">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► and they just happened to have a strain relief thing of the cable going into the headphone part. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/516">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► It looks like Apple is it because Sony's engineers hate the little rings too I think that thicker sleeve type thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/521">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► a vaguely plausible technique for strain relief. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► It's just not a sturdy is the ring thing because the Rings you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/530">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► when you bend at the Rings knock into each other and make sort of a smooth curve. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/534">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► But anyway I'm sure most of the doing here this is not new information then they know how many lightning cables are out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/538">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► there you know how many replacements they have to hand out. If it's a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/544">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► They will you know address it by either continuing to give out free cables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/548">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► or maybe the next version will build a stronger will say yes whatever it's worth I have a large quantity of headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/552">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► within eyesight right now and I just took a look around as you were describing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/560">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► and none of them have the little like Gap ridge pattern. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► All of them just have little cuts at best similar to the apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/567">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► And maybe it's like an expectation of like how much you know people don't expect to be yanking on the cable that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/572">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► into your headphones right. You know even if you're dancing around your head phone cables. I mean I don't like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/577">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► It's an expectation of you know what is what does a typical usage look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/583">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► and I think Apple appears to have misjudged the stress and strain of typical usage of lightning cables. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/588">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► If our feedback is to be believed you need now kind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/595">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► Sort of speaking of lightning cables Frank generally wrote in to you to say that you were slightly incorrect about an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/600">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► assertion you made regarding the cables. Tell me more about this information was correct it was incomplete. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/608">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► I said knowing how to orient an apple U.S.B. Connectors to look for the logo the logo faces up.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/613">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► If it's a horizontal connector an Apple device that is true that is also true for non-U.S. Apple U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/620">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► Devices the logo facing up thing is a part of the U.S.B. Standard. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/626">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► So of course that doesn't mean that everybody does it because there are plenty of vaguely compliant U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/630">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► Devices out there on the market as we all know sometimes they don't even fit in the plugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/635">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► or they said they were going without the U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► Standard not an Apple standard in fact I wonder if Apple is actually in violation of the standard because it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/642">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► embossed the little U.S.B. Logo just sort of prints it on their. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/647">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► I don't know I didn't actually read the thing in the Standard to see if it demands that it be in boss versus a printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/651">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► thing. But but there you go it's not just Apple that will work for you everywhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► Excellent men were cruising to this follow up I was just a little bit more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/661">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► There is a mac that is sold with an optical drive a lot of listeners came out of the woodwork to tell us that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/666">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► thirteen inch MacBook Pro non retina just the thirteen inch MacBook Pro is still a thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/673">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► It still has a platter hard drive and it still has a onboard Super Drive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/679">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► And actually I just noticed it's labeled in the specifications page as an eight X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/685">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► Super Drive which just made me remember do you remember back in the days when they were just CD burners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/690">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► and there were like fifty two X. CD readers and they were like eight X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/696">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► Burners and all man you thought you were so cool when you had like a fifty two X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/700">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► Reader and you could you know load whatever you know when Commander three wax too old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/705">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► but you know I'm driving at you know one of these old CD based games in no time in the loading times for instance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/709">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► Well John doesn't remember this but you remember this Marco I assume. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/716">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► The days well the loading times were an instant because first you hear the CD spin up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/720">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► and then spin a further they're all the needs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/724">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► So everything would just freeze on your computer while this happened because I think I think this would be for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/730">TS</a>]
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00:15:08 ◼ ► and your choices are probably that MacBook Pro The Macmini the i Pod Classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/908">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► or the IMAX the MacMini come about there was an option they were a spinning disk like a hard drive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/914">TS</a>]
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00:17:28 ◼ ► in the chat says two and a half in the twenty one inch IMAX and three and a half in the twenty seven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► Well interesting you have failed me for the last time chat room. I'm sure that's a pop culture reference I'm missing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1052">TS</a>]
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00:21:30 ◼ ► I'd love to hear John's thoughts on the Tivo Romeo O.T. A who it's good for and why and is it worth it given the fee. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► Now I know nothing about Tivo so John can you start by explaining to me what makes the Tivo Romeo ot a different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► other Chivas do you know that it's not pronounced Attah. We do not want to go at that. So it's not out yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► If I read a preview on C.N.N. That's the only information I have about this thing.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1313">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► That old Romeo's they're bringing for the current line of Tivo D.V.R. Go hard drive and it's going to C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► It will record television that comes into your house like the name says get over the air that the capital T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► Yes it gets over the air broadcast and it doesn't take in cable through either cable card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► or any I get it gets kind of innovation from an antenna over the air and that's all it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► and it's interesting because I think this is the first Tivo since way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► when since you know I may be the first version I don't remember the first series too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► and I've always had a hook at the cable so I don't remember what the old over the air analog stuff was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► but this one does not take cable input and it's only fifty bucks for the box and it's little tiny box. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► It has a small hard drive fifty bucks you wouldn't expect much of the five hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► but our driver doesn't actually hold that much high def video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► I guess for tuners which is nice because it used to be fourteen as was the top of the line so they're making some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► progress there and making the technology go down market and it costs fifteen dollars a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► and I think from looking at the scene at Oracle I don't think there's a lifetime thing or other T.V. Shows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► If you don't want to pay a monthly fee for the Tivo service you can just pay some upfront [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► and if you plan on keeping it and using it for more than X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► Number of years you can do the math and figure out what makes more sense for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► I always buy the lifetime stuff with my Tivo because I use them until they die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► and that haven't actually died yet so I use them until I buy a new Tivo. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► I use them until I have got my money's worth out of the lifetime service frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► but I don't think there's any life time services for developing So yes it's super cheap. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1420">TS</a>]
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00:23:51 ◼ ► Who is a good forum why I think it may be a good for Tivo the company because it's a way to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1431">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► At fifty dollars it will trip people into buying because it's like oh it's so cheap. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► You know that I'm a cord cutter I don't have cable service or whatever but I like to watch my local sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► or whatever something else that I can get in a convenient way to get a fifty dollar box or hook it up to my T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► I'll be able to record local sports games begin to use the same Tivo interfaces on the big fancy boxes which as we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► the last show doesn't use Flash anymore it isn't horrendously slow which is nice and you know and they don't either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► or figure they'll just you know stomach the fifteen dollars a month for a couple months to see if they like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► and the reason I think this is good for Tivo is because once you get used to that experience like especially with cord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► cutters who used to you know firing up the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► or Watching some of their around their i Pad Tivo is super convenient like once you hook it up to your television you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► stop using your television the way you used to and you get used to the convenience of having a built in D.V.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► Right there like it's a screen you go to when you want to watch television and there's all your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► and you say why did the same thing with my Apple T.V. or I do the same thing with H.B.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► GO I guess you know the chemistry of that or shared password order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► but in my experience having used all these different kinds of ways to get video Tivo is the most like old T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► or You said then if any television turn on and they're you know points out of the T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► and There's your stuff and there's no booting and there's no launching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► and there's no waiting for it to wake from sleep in there's no doing any of the stuff even if it's not a fast sender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► because the world is a convincing sort of replacement for your television. That changes the way you watch T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► and The reason I say this is good for Tivo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► and not for people buying this thing is because once you get used to this you're going to want to watch all your T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► This way or any of any television that you watch on a television set. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► I really feel like a bunch people get used to watching a television like that that are going to turn on look for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► show they want to watch and remember oh yeah I have to watch that on an Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► and I got to switch inputs and go over to the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► and then wait for the Apple hooey to wake from sleep in the little thing around. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► Hold on and then you've got to get back to a top level thing going to the app they want and then again i Tunes there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► It's just it is you know it's not it's not a nice experience is Tivo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► and a tiny hard drive not going to hold that much stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► and fifteen dollars a month is just brutal so I can't imagine someone I would not recommend this box to anybody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► If someone wants to record television that comes into their house in real time to time shift it for later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► I would recommend they get the user cable company D.V.R. If they want to get something super cheap and terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► A lot many people tell me they like their cable but I way it can be an expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► or they get a good Tivo I think this is like the thin edge of a wedge for TIVO just trying to say you know we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► that if we're going to get our interface in front of people they will realize that it's a nicer way to watch television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► than almost any of the other alternatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► and I agree with them it is better I watch most of my television on Tivo if I can help it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► It is nicer than all the other ways I have to watch television. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► It's a shame this doesn't include the streaming stuff I don't know why cheaping out or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► but like the fancy Tivo as have you can watch stuff you can transfer stuff to your i Pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► and then take your i Pad like on a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► or watch something you pull if you Tivo you can watch it by streaming it over the network from your Tivo to yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► although the bandwidth required to do that with H.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► Video is very terrible I've done it a couple times but doesn't look great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► but they don't have those features built into the city dollar box you can buy the other much more expensive boxes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► a Tivo stream or something that adds capability. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► ALWAYS a reason not to get this of the I box I don't recommend it for anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► but I do recommend if you have any interest and D.V.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► Us maybe care here's what I reckon is where you want to spend fifteen you know I saw a book so to two months for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► fifteen dollars a month service plus if you know as for the thing you just might try it out if you like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► I recommend getting a good Tivo if you don't like it now your out box so what. Not a big deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► That's basically I have to say about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► when I first saw this announcement whenever it was yesterday whatever it was at first I was like wow this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► thought about and then I realized first of all in the fifteen dollars a month is wild. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► and also compared to an entire cable subscription that people are paying compared to what some cable companies charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► to rent their stuff that might seem reasonable but compared to what cord cutters are used to that's a lot of money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► So I'm a quote cable cutter. I cancelled my cable service in like two thousand and six. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► Realizing that I was just not using it enough and I would rather spend that you know eighty bucks a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► or whatever was the difference elsewhere and now that I've gone this long without traditional T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► and You know so I get most of my show either through Netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► or buy them on i Tunes I have to Pirates of occasionally that I can't get any other way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► It's very rare now it's almost always i Tunes in the flicks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► None of these methods have commercials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► and none of these methods have like you know the broadcast stream the cross promotion crap you know starting a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► off all this all this crazy stuff that you deal with with T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► Sometimes or all the time and so when I watch regular T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► Like you know a family house or there's some like that when I watch regular T.V. It's it is terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► Like I know I reckon this is a massive problem that disclaimer aside like it is a terrible experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► and it's I look at that and I it's like oh make using Windows like I can't believe I ever thought that was normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► and so I look at something like this and if if you were kind of person who is not who is not a cord cutter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► but you're thinking about cutting the cord and you you were looking at this as possibly a way to do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► Great that sounds you know that sounds like a reasonable idea. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► If you if you already been a cord cutter though I think this will be a lot like going back to visit your high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► after you graduate if you going to feel like this is not a good idea. Now this is not like watching regular T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► You don't have to see the commercials and everything I mean you do still to skip them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► but it's not as bad as like the reason you were everything is sort of this is because there's something you're missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► and I know I have to think that it's the local sports basically one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► but this is far right because everything else you can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► Get or everything else requires cable because you know I go I want to I don't want to be a wash network T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► I don't know maybe this is for someone who only watches network T.V. But the reason they have a D.V.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► Because you want to watch shows right now you don't want to wait for even twenty four hours. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► You just don't want to wait for them to appear on Hulu or Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► or Whatever they're going to hear or you know even H.B.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► Go you don't to be locked out of Game of Thrones because everyone slams H.B.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► GO because they try to broadcast simultaneously and it doesn't work right. I never had that problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► I watch Game of Thrones exactly when it airs. It's part of me that I pay for H.B.O. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► So it's either because you want to watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► Now if you're super intelligent have a lot of disposable income [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► or because there's something you literally can't get any place else like local sports because there's a local T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► Blackout and all sorts of crap like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► and so that's that's that's the market for this thing I just think even those people are going to be like Jesus Is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► really worth I mean do you really have cable again maybe these days you can't get it. Maybe this is still cheaper. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► Like if you desperately want to see local sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► or you can't be there for me you don't want to miss a single second of your favorite team right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► Maybe this is the cheapest option. What else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► Because the cheapest you can get a cable like it is a give me the most basic of all basic cable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► You know like it was I mention a cable company's D.V.R. but Then I realized if you got a cable company's D.V.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► You have to pay for cable and how cheaply can you pay for cable. Probably more expensive than this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► Yeah be obese a cable is usually about fifteen bucks a month. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► The use of a time even at all the fees and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► and it's pretty hard to get those kind of plans these fifteen dollars I would guess are like you couldn't get any cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► television with any signal over your house of less than like forty dollars a month. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► That's standard cable done talking about basic There is almost always a level below standard. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► They don't really advertise very much but you can ask for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► This is a level I had growing up which basically has the networks plus C O W G N N A couple other you know not not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► a great selection. The problem I see with this is that it is you know compared to a cord cutter's pay for things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► This is not expensive but it's mid priced I would say you know compared to everything else it's it's also though. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1912">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Actually worse than that a real standard cable package and if you if you have any T.L.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► and you get enough reception like you can get most of the value of this for free you're just not getting the D.V.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► Well yeah you know you're not going in the commercials all you're paying for is the commercials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► and in times shifting but that's like that's worthwhile speaking of you know that's the worst watching live T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► when You can skip commercials like that is the real bottom event like the best you can do is mute during commercials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► like that is really going back to Windows to use your analogy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► That's cool that the DAs have having to skip commercials. It's not so bad and depending I think it's the N.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► Shows don't even have them a commercial break for them without cable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► I don't like I think if you like the experience of being able to time shift and being able to see the shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► when you want to see them without having to wait another day or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► and frankly the reliability of you know of knowing that you're not going to get locked out of H.B.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► Go and you're not going to stream problems or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► or you're not to be subject to stupid I a species you know throttling your Netflix ban with all sorts of other terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► things that are going on D.V.R. Is like this are still the most reliable way to get Tivo when you to get T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► when You want it but I just think this is not a very good Tivo because it's so expensive monthly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► and if you like this like save save more money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► I mean you can literally save more like you had to the math is that if you keep this thing to three years it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► most expensive device Tivo sells because it's so much cheaper to just get one of the more expensive Tivo than to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► lifetime subscription and keep it for more than three years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► You know what I don't understand is if you were a cord cutter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► Oftentimes I would imagine it's because you don't want to spend the money on something that you may not either enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► that much or use that much or what have you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► And so if you're in that mindset where you're either I don't mean frugal dismissively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► but I can think of a better word so for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► All in or whatever whatever the reason is your cost sensitive and then you're done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► Then people saying well actually now that you saved money by cutting the cord Why don't you pay us fifteen dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► month for something that really doesn't have that much benefit other than maybe skipping commercials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► and maybe doing a little bit of time shifting but to me if I'm in that mindset of I'm trying to save money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► and that's my priority then obviously through the damn commercials it's really not that big a deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► You can't go back to seeing through commercials. Just you just can't all I do it I have a D.V.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► I do it all the time I can't do it anywhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► Like the other Avengers give you the four tuners if you just watch network T.V. They are a bunch O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► Be able to give us your grandparents or something and all their watches network T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► and I have a couple theory shows that as time conflicts to solve the problem right there and you can too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► You can tune to all four of the O.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► Eight channels you can actually receive and record them all the same you can you can see all of your T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► At the same time. That's a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► It's applying a great feature set to what most people consider a woefully inadequate input. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► But even people who watch network T.V. Shows regularly they probably also watch cable networks at least one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► There's also other things they want to see like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► That's why I'm thinking like this won't appeal to people who like to like T.V. Too much we cancel cable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► It won't kill them and it will appeal to cord cutters because it is both too expensive and not good enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► But they spent in this is hidden like the only reason I think this is an interesting product at all is because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► chose to price it a fifty dollars as the only reason that worth discussing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► Because I think that will get people to try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► and I think Tivo is just hoping that they'll try it will get a little bit of money out of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► They've probably calculated the fifteen dollars a month will make up the part of the thing cost more than fifty bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► to make I'm sure. Right so they will get the money at him from our outrageous monthly fee. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► Maybe a couple of people we will convert to you know I will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► Terrible but I will I will get cable again of my interest too with this instead of whatever it was before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► All right so let's talk about something else. Let's talk about version numbering. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► And today we had a little bit of news in so far as there's a new release from our friends at likeability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► and we're probably going to talk about that in just a few minutes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► But Brian Capps from likability wrote a very interesting and relatively brief post on version numbering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► and I thought it was a really good post because in summary what Brian had said was you know the version numbering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► You really don't need a decimal or even multiple decimals when you're on version three of an app just hypothetically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► It doesn't need to be three dodo. It doesn't need to be three dodo. It can be just plain three. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2215">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► And I just thought I'd never really thought about version numbering this way until I read this post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► and I thought it was a really interesting take on things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► and I would definitely love to hear Marco what your two cents is about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► and how do you handle these sorts of things for overcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► That's a good question so I stress a lot about aversion numbers for Instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► and I I would like you know hold features like I have a big two point two coming out soon I better hold back this good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► Even with overcast like there's a great feature that I that I finally figured out how to do recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► and I thought you know should I actually save this for to point out some mystery point in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► and you know maybe you know get people to pay again for something or something and I thought well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► and I I realized you know that that was a bad idea. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► But various reasons but I think the version numbers need to exist for technical reasons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2272">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► You know that there has to be some kind of identifier for the version for the programmers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► But what you exposed to users and to your marketing efforts is of course up to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► I think it's very important to consider version numbers that you're going to be publicizing as marketing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► It's part of a marketing message and it probably matters less than you think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► or because of a version of one of the three that have semantic meaning to programmers it means that the base version is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► one point No it is not a major update because it isn't one point one it's one point of a point three So it's a minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► update probably mostly bug fixes not a lot of new features if any so that means something to nerds like us it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► You see like if you if you see the version numbers for Facebook or chrome that the Facebook app on i OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► or chrome they're comical they're just meaningless numbers and we you know did make fun of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► and a Facebook like version twelve point oh change log bug fixes. OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► Rumor that Chrome is like at version two hundred seventy three thousand something and it's like you know Kroger's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► and commence the base number and you know the fact is they don't really matter to almost anybody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► The very very few people. Sorry I was correct in the chat room. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► The current version of Chrome is thirty eight point zero point two one two five point two four day of sixty four bit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► Core not of not great for marketing not not a very you know human readable version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► but it doesn't matter if you're going to make a major update. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► Yeah it makes sense to to do you know a new version that that carries meaning to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► and that is how you can base your marketing right like it makes it easier for marketing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► If you cluster together big releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► or big changes into these big like you know whole number releases I think is also that are going to be made which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► believe because some of the first mission is a million to John. One of the kids he reached out to her that much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► So Jon Lester put the infant version one that would post in court [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► and could put this in the show notes I haven't read this post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► but I have a feeling I could figure out what it's about from the title which is does it really matter what version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► Just keep adding features whenever you can and that's not quite what it's about it's actually pretty old posts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► but I went to like a thousand times because it's one of those trends that I think some people have seen coming away I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► mean this is like two thousand and eleven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► Like I've been in favor of N Sync going for a long time but other people are either blind to or are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► or are against because it's different right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► The App Store in some ways is kind of holding us back from this because in the App Store if you want to charge money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► like Markos just alluding to before if you decide you want to charge money for Tweedy you have to you have to market it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► differently like you have today twenty two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► and I suppose to be might not necessarily be a version number it could be like a roman numeral like a sequel of a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► but you are forced to do something marketing wise to differentiate the new version from the old one because you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► charge money for it again because is no upgrade pricing so that is possibly keeping versioning alive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► That and the fact that apps don't auto update that exist to write it I was they still don't know out there by default. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► I don't promise you it wants you to tell them to auto update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► but I don't think it does a by default so I correct anyone thought it was by default. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► If it does but I can never keep track with it I think the mac doesn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► or maybe I was Does not the way I think that's right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► Well the coding Harpo's is about is what chrome did is you have no choice if you run chrome and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► and you ever quit chrome and relaunch it like Evil up to his health. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► It had been quietly downloading in a bid to itself the next time you launch it will install that update. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► Doesn't really bother you too much about it used to be a little bit more intrusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► and give you more options to deferred or maybe say no chrome is going to update it self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► and this I think is exactly the right strategy for web browsers today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2515">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► Because you just want to you don't want to get into a situation where the just all versions of the IS can't get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► off if we drop support for X. People still use it and or we extend support for experiences. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► It's terrible like you need browsers to be up to date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► and so Google's approach is if you are in Chrome we'll shove the current version down your throat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► Just deal with it right and as the infinite versions like do you have chrome. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► It's not what you have yes I have grown what is chrome Chrome was whatever Google says it is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► and it will get good will change over time Inc and Google has no problem will totally change the U.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► Will move menu commands around to drive some people nuts drives me nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► and I'm trying to get us to a bell out of the menu bar for the millionth time that is the correct approach. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► but for the rendering engines like that's the correct approach for the web I wish every browser updated itself like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► Chrome as a web developer because they would have to deal with that anymore because everyone would be infinitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► updated to Chrome thirty seven inch i think it lays stable thirty eight is like the canary thing maybe thirty seven is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► beta thirty six is main point is I don't want to know how does one know you've got chrome then I think then you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2574">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► the latest from and there are you know there's different channels to get you know more bleeding edge crimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► but in general that is a much nicer place to be now is that the appropriate versioning technique for every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► but I think in the future that is a much more viable approach from user's perspective because usually users hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► upgrades they don't want to do them and it's kind of like kind of like autosave where you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► but But what if I wanted to keep the old version I don't want you shoving the new version demo third involve blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► exactly the same thing people say but I want to say that we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► but what if I don't I just want to speculative we make changes I don't want to do our Maggie seven want to manually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► save button but nobody says that about Iowa. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► Nobody says I need a save button a notepad sometimes a speculative type things into my note that I don't need a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► to save it. Don't autosave No it's just something that used to all of us will die. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► Future people think it's crazy that we ever had to push a button to manually update our software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► and just be excepted as the way things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► and at that point you know the version number can just be a random string of letters doesn't matter just the unique can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► be they could be use you you ids for version Oh who cares. Like it's totally pointless. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2636">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► So that's where I think we're going. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► And hemming and hawing over whether it's three point two or three is kind of pointless. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► And if the only thing that matters about versioning now and the app store is like Marco said for marketing purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► and then developers can pick revenue market and believe me nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► but us ever looks at that number that's unlikely text next to Facebook that I read the release notes they just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► if it's all updated by default they just know there's a blue dot next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► and they don't know what that means an attack on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► and it goes away doesn't even get the bleed out of the tunnel it didn't get the you know married out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► and you know like what what Brian's point was in this article was was not the version numbers should go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► but that we should care about the version numbers and presented nicely to people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► and I think that's not I don't think that's that's that's that important like I think you don't present a version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► number to people you present the product name to people and tweet to it a product name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► and is that to a version number who knows who and who cares. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► Right exactly and furthermore like is twenty two still a product name a month after it's out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2695">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► or do you know it is just tweet event tweet to one point oh the first version of tweets I don't know what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► getting getting tangled up in version numbers is something that really only we like I guess continue if you ask a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► random person that they know the version number. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► and you know they have no idea in fact the only reason Marco probably knows a version number is his own apps you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► pretty much tell me what nobody know and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► and we look at the release not like I do manual updates I turned on the little disclosure thing to say with a change so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► I can see that one thing that the bug fixes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► or whatever then like I actually read that I don't know the version numbers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► It's interesting to me that over the last few years it's gotten to be important to consider you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► or else we were just talking about this with Apple earlier and you having clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► and easy to understand your L's has gotten pretty important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► and maybe I'm going to write it what do you think gotten pretty important to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► But I do think this is a recent development in the last few years maybe I'm looking at this through a very Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► but you know in years past especially in the Microsoft community having these god awful your L's with Dot S.P.X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► On the end of it all over the place and just why was nobody but you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► But yeah that's always been Grosso there believe may well have been important from day one on the Web The I agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► you Microsoft has historically not considered that to be the case but we've all been laughing at them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► Well OK and I think it's more than just Microsoft. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► Do you remember when When what was it the exclamation hash that Twitter was doing. Did I get that right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► Yeah yeah that was because they didn't they didn't start their browser didn't support history push state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► and so they had they use this crazy thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► and yeah they were there was like six months where every major Web site started doing the bang hash thing went with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► EXACT of javascript as as I go and everything all encompassing framework for their site it was a very dark time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► That was worse than fifty two actually rom drives on our website just say you know what's Grier you're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► using Brazee have the support history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► but I think I think even I hate supports that you know that you know I do that kind of hacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► or that's why everyone's using Chrome because we could've all been a bit of that center the one I always think of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► or else the joke still has a little daughter here is that I think you know I don't want to pick on the Greek in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► guys over there with like their windows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► The people founded by someone who spent a lot of his formative years in Microsoft and I don't know if it's cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► but can you imagine anybody who is sort of an apple nerd apple into this camp ever like choosing that as a you or L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► Structure even if like forget about your personal web site where you know I can too and everything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► If you're making a product for other people to you you would still be like I don't want people to use my product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► and have the euro look like this but Joe was like Good good to go thumbs up I think he got shamed into changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► and changing the Urals in the software so they're not quite as ugly and I can't even imagine that was an easy change. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2873">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► Like whatever reason it was that way which I I assume the reason it was that way at first was that file names would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► sort in order because this would be for any of us did natural number sorting and it's filed on our database back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► and I assume it's just so they could have a big zero padded number that he wouldn't comment because he's a Windows user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► doesn't sound like he wanted to do like aspirin to have present zero fifty two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► Well I did anyway the point I'm driving at is looking at this from a Windows developer's point of view. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► Rest rest could style your L's got popular I don't know four or five years ago maybe a little more that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► and all of a sudden all the Windows developers Windows web developers were like Oh holy crap we should kind of take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► and so over the last few years it again from my point of view over the last few years it got to be really important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► have really clean your L's and it's interesting to me that that same care are put into your L's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2931">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► Those of us who do native applications just didn't really have a similar amount of care for version numbering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► and I think that Brian's point was just hey we should care about this and this is marketing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► It's it can be important to some users and you should you should give a crap and I think that was mostly his point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► Who most people care about hurting over this I want to share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► and point out the MCAS had a longstanding tradition of the three section version of us are major minor and patronage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► and are major and minor and update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► or whatever like a down to the the old version resources that are in force that the finder would render by reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► but there's always been kind of a convention like back in the Apple days there was a version numbers of letters in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► so you could that you could have D. Releases which was before altho it had a little a in a name and then B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► Would have a visa one point oh you know three year or one point five and sometimes you get an R.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► or An app see thrown in there that it's are all like little idioms and conventions among developers that I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/2994">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► Most users don't have any interaction with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► but I still think there was care it's not like there was a filename extension it was like one point zero point five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► when You know that that was the worst things of the the worst of the year old in the web was where you would expose the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► implementation of the web application through an extension in the U.R.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► As if that had any meaning to anything except for your crappy server software. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► Right like that is the people on the other end of it. Care that it's like a dot asp or dot org dot C.G.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► Like they don't care they don't care what technology used to implement this that that's not entirely true because a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► of people would see slash pages slash something about S.P.X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► and They would immediately say Oh that's your point this is going to suck some of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► and there was nothing like early early proxy servers would be like well I won't catch anything has that C.G.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► In the oral and all sorts of stupid crap like that it's it's it's the same exact thing as fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► and extended anyplace else you are you are overloading your your inlining information into another location because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3054">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► feel like there's no other place to put it only H.T.T.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► There is totally another place to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► and this piece of information doesn't need to put it anywhere because doesn't matter to anybody except for the server. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► So it's just stupid and people should not manage that you're all space as if it's as if it's invisible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► and that the open question of whether that should be visible at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► and we'll talk more about that if you're somebody is released I suppose but have we talked about it once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► when Chrome tried to do that thing to replace the address bar with the thing that doesn't show the address anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► Oh it was the it was with the awesome bar something right and that was Firefox. Now it's like it was like a U.R.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► They call the U.R.L. Chip it was chrome canary That's right yeah. Might still be there I turned it off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► So speaking of look at billet he Marco's anything else you'd like to tell us about these guys as a matter of fact. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► Yes So we had a last minute sponsor drop out in a few occasion this week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► And like literally about an hour before we recorded the show we went to Twitter and said hey anybody want a spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► and our friends a likability jumped at it they were the very first ones through. We want to. We will take it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► And the reason they were they took it is because there are some people looking billet he is three guys to Matthew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► Bishop Brian Capps who we just mentioned wrote the article and Andrew Harrison I've definitely hung out with Matthew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► and Brian a lot. I think in your ears and I saw his Twitter picture inside it looks he looks familiar. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► I'm pretty sure I've met him. Possibly a New York Times I went with the other two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► Anyway Matthew Bishop used to be at the New York Times he's now a tumbler brain caps I believe still is of the New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► Times. I mean from wrong. And Andrew Harrison you have not I seen him somewhere so probably the New York Times. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► These are really great guys and if you follow what they do online you can see that yourself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► If you see their work you can see it even more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► I mean these are the people who actually wrote the New York Times that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► and Matthew now works on the tumblr app like these are really high quality high skilled people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► And I even talked about on debug how if I was if I was going to hire another programmer I would try very hard to hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3173">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► Matthew Bishop our probably couldn't get him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► But this is how good these people are and what they've chosen to do in their free time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► Is a company called like ability and look ability has this after called quote book and quote book version three. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► There's no thought in that there's no zero there's no large number there's no meaningless number book version three was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► released today in the App Store so just by coincidence they released a giant new version. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► It's been eight months in the making. It's a complete redesign and rewrite from the ground up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► And just by coincidence they released that today where is the record and that's why they decided to buy the spot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► So quote Book three is a universal app for i Phone and i Pad that lets you collect quotes that matter to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► You can call it you know lines for movies lines from books song lyrics crazy stuff you hear in real life from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► friends and family even clips from Twitter you can even save tweets directly into it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► All these things are perfect and you can use quote book for all of your quotes are sync via i Cloud. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3235">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► All your devices and I trusted God to to do to do i Cloud right because I know they care a lot and they tested a lot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► You should see the things they sweat about it the details they worry about are stunning like they really have they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► the attention to detail that we wish Apple actually had that we sometimes always has but a lot of times Apple doesn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► They have attention to detail with their stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► So anyway quotes that are saving quote book three to have an author a source a rating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► and tags so you can do all sorts of great organizational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► and search options on these so for example you can say show all quotes about Apple show all quotes from John Syracuse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► That's just one tap in the interface to do stuff like that. The app is localized into four languages. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► It's fully accessible via voice over another accessibility options. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► All the good stuff you expect from high quality after fell apart is so new in version three also they you can now add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3295">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► images and descriptions to authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► and sources you can probably have like you know Little John Syracuse ahead on ON HIS NAME there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► They can even pull information and pictures for your authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► and sources automatically from Wikipedia if you'd like because Pretty cool it this way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► Come on these this kind of feature is like that's just awesome. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► This is what happens when you take people who are extremely talented at what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► and you give them what is inferior a relatively simple database app and this is what this is how they do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► It's pretty crazy. All the Polish they put into this all the all the awesome feature they put into this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► They have really as I said they swear the details like crazy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► More things you can autocomplete author's sources and tags from within the app your contacts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► and your music library so it scans all these data sources on the phone for auto complete information so that as you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► typing error completed it's not doing anything creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► or anything like sending it to anybody it's just a local app uses that i Cloud so be it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► These are good people doing good stuff here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► Let me see what else they can import quotes from your tumblr posts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► and your Facebook profile so you can ask him to start with you can start organizing things you've already posted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► Really great stuff you're good on board experience we talk about those for a whole episode as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► You can then share your quotes after you save them or look them up later you can share them to Facebook Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► or tumbler and day one now already section even works so it will detect quote on your clipboard from my books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► and he will even extraction parse the relevant book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► and author automatically So if you you know hit something my books and i Books a quote switch over to a quote book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► and it will recognize all that stuff for you. Anyway this is really great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► Go to quote book app dot com Once again it is quote book after com download the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► or just search for a quote book one word in the App Store. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► It's five bucks and I can tell you this is worth every penny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► These are you know I was going to say I wish these guys would do even more apps but I'm not a participant of this one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3414">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► It's just man I just want to keep doing this like it's again it's a concept you know the idea of an app to save quotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► and sounds simple but there are so many ways that it could have been done with mediocrity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► And they did such an incredibly awesome job with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► and they have such great values such Freetown it really shows through. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► So anyway thank you very much to look at military response in our show for a quick look at a quote book after come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► or look up cookbook in the App Store where we really appreciate and jump in in the last minute like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► All right we got a question from a listener regarding the pod cast patent troll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► and the question was basically why the crap aren't you three talking about this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► I can't verbalize my feelings about it other than I think it's crummy but I don't know John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► or Mark aware of every one of you added this to the show would you care to explain why you didn't want to talk about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3474">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► Now I put it in there and I think well first to recap what it is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► There is some patent troll out there that personal audio that thinks they have a patent on my i Pod casting basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► if you're doing anything that looks like a podcast we have the patent on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► and you were never thought to do it without our hard work and we deserve to be paid. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► and they're going after lots of the repond cash is one of the ones they went after with Adam Carolla who was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► It's the world's most popular but I guess is very popular anyway and they did a big lawsuit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► and he raised a bunch of money along with the FAFSA help me fight off this patent troll he raised like half a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► dollars he was going to loss it with them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► They decided to drop the suit for whatever reason I think they might have thought that like if they didn't have as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► money as he thought they dropped it in a way that they can file it again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► For a little while look like he was going to try to continue the fight anyway but basically they both bailed out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► They both reserve the right to go back at it again in the future if AFA still trying to get their patent invalidated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3533">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► which this is a sane world should be easy because their patent is dumb in this point in terms of prior arts hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► So the question for the listener is why haven't we talked about this and I think the reason is that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► and we're going to go I talk about patents a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► and basically I'm not in favor of any patents on anything so anything that has to do with patents is kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► and I can argue about this but you know it's all been there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► What's your position as I think patents shouldn't exist next question right so I think that Marco has a similar anti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► patent stance maybe not as severe as mine. No it's the same. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► And so like so that's we're not going to get into the nuances of this type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► and so we all think this patent trolls terrible they think patents are about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► Casey what do you how do you feel about patents. I don't think I have nearly a strong opinion about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► Certainly I don't think software patents should be a thing. I think that's kind of insane. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► Regular patents I haven't really put enough thought into into it to come to any. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► but I don't know that's a very good non-answer I suppose the real reason we haven't talked about it though is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► the patent system is so absurd and ridiculous that there's nothing to talk about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► Like if they decide to come after us we're screwed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► and that's true of anybody because the patent to litigate a patent case cost way more than half a million dollars of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► and actually go through with this case like if they hadn't dropped that he would have needed to raise millions of more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► and usually you don't get your legal fees back because they all have these things take place in some east Texas Texas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► court that's incredibly favorable to patent trolls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► and it's just it's a terrible rigged system that punishes everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► and you know there's there's no point in discussing it like that you know it's like why don't we discuss whether we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► have struck by lightning struck by lightning. We're dead you know there's nothing you can do about it right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► Became but little lightning rods on so the patent system is terrible hopefully we are small enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► and all over come after us if they do we're screwed. We all hate patents the end the interesting thing about this case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3655">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► One of these things about this case is it really what appears to have happened you know the patent is not from somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► familiar with podcasting the patent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► If I remember correctly from a write up on ARS forever ago I believe it was something like some guy was like sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► cassette tapes through the mail. Watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► Yeah it's even it's bogus it within the realm of even if you believe totally in patents you would look at this new bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► like why would they want money for everything just podcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► It's that it was updated I think to not be tapes in the mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► and all like whatever doesn't emit like that's why it doesn't matter to argue about the nuances of this if you believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► patent as a concept shouldn't exist who cares about the nuances like that's why I don't really have any interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► or about this summer like it's just bogus like even if he had exactly come out with it with the entire concept of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► It's stupid because I've never heard of him until he started suing people so obviously I get the idea about getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► from him oh you got it from the person who got a from the person who got a man like I don't care they don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► they don't think they deserve. Any money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► That's not how by why I wish the world worked a little the way our legal system works so we just basically shut up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► Marlice pretty much him because you're right like it is it is pretty much a crap shoot with with you know patent patent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► lawsuit threats from patent trolls or even the term patent trolls thrown around here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► and there's a lot of you know scapegoating and over patent trolls are a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► No not really patent a problem and it doesn't matter who owns them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► Patents themselves are the problem and even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► when used entirely in the way that peoples like storybook version of what they think patents are for protecting some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► small inventor even when used in that exact quote intended way by people who are really making things supposably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► and really need protection even then they don't work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► Even then they're a net loss on society and that story is so rarely even the case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► And all the other times there used are way worse than that but the problem is not trolls. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3774">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► and because of the way our civil legal system is set up in the US You know like if you're attacked by somebody with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► with with an actual filed lawsuit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► or the threat of filing a final lawsuit there's pretty much nothing you can do except comply with whatever settlement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► offer they make you and give the money it's it's really quite quite a racket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► but there's nothing more anybody can really intelligently do because well you do fight it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► and you know lose hundreds of thousands if not more millions it will cost you millions of dollars to win a patent yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► it actually goes like a trial then you're really screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► but even just to begin to fight even just to begin a lawsuit you will lose all of your money you will lose tons of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► you will lose all motivation to work and to do anything. And for what. You know like it's a terrible system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3832">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► It is if anything in this country is a tax on innovation more than the lack of the government health care. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► It's is so incredibly destructive to innovation and is so destructive to small companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► and large companies actually to small companies just feel it more and think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► And so this is a horrible thing however this particular case I don't think I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► and I'm not qualified to talk about because I don't know the much about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► and it's you know I agree with John it's not really any different than any other case I think it would have been great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► And his his people succeeded in invalidating the patent because I believe that's what they were going for like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► wanted to fight it in court and to win the suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► and the reality is part of the court of I mean I don't blame them for selling something like Oh we give you half a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► million dollars He just spent all that money getting to the point now where they can you know get out of it like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► The company reserves the right to file suit again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► but it seems that the company has a side of this is not enough money to be had there whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► But that has an art of the nation I believe is still going forward with the Patent Office itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► and saying you can you can like go to the patent office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► and say we think this patent is invalid you go through this crazy byzantine process to try to get it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► and I think you have to still doing that independent about it Carol and aurally. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► So we can only hope that like the patent troll that Pantra probably have fifty more hands that they can throw out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► but we can only hope that this handrail by raising its head above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► and like picking on somebody with that with a microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► and some publicity has caused the best decide to go after them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► and you know hopefully they get punished for being publicly terrible instead of probably Terrell Cole like a lot just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► for example you know you mean like Nathan Myhrvold Intellectual Ventures. Yeah all those guys. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► Let's Lena let's call it right out there. Yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► Babs you know I forget how much I really hate this stuff until we bring it up again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► and listen to that episode hypercritical or episodes of hypercritical more time to get myself all fired up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3951">TS</a>]
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01:06:24 ◼ ► there's a there's a small organization that my kids involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► and I volunteered to be on the computer web site Committee. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► when I said I want to be in it's going to Oh good we're going to redo the website this year we have a budget of three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► thousand dollars that we're going to we need to pick a new web developer to have them redo our Web site for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► thousand dollars and we're also going to you know we're going to go to Wordpress or we're going to buy a theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► and we're going to have this designer isn't a new theme and everything in the template is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► but I'm like hold up you know give me an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► and I literally in the span of about an hour went to square space took everything off of their old site which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► know it's one of those like you know ten page info sites with a couple of forms here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► or there it's fairly simple you know a little gallery a calendar stuff like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► I took their entire existing site important into square space gave it a whole custom theme took pictures put it up put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► a picture as you know put a header image in everything I did all this in an hour of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► and I said OK rather than rather than spending three thousand dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► and having some developer involved it's going to be custom work it will take forever I guess did all this for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► and we can use that three thousand dollars for any other purpose and to spend ten bucks a month on this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► And needless to say I won that that bid my option one and you know this is this is something that I can set up once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► or they can set it up I could set it up and then just hand it over to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► and they can edit things that mess anything up they can change you know if they want to change the colors they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► change the colors it's no big deal and the best thing is if they want support. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4073">TS</a>]
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01:09:12 ◼ ► So Marco you recently posted a large headphone review is there anything to add about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► That's pretty much self-contained I did I did face a little bit of a problem with with with this review which was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► you to talk about how you're being ridiculous about in your monitors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► No actually the problem I have with this which is really boring and madness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► and too much time on it is where do you put it on the site. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► Because what I've done in the past like I've I've mostly just you know made blog posts here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► and there with you know here's here's what I think of this pair headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► or here's my current recommendations this one I just I decided that I'm going to make it the only page I can update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► continuously because you know blogs always have a problem with like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4194">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► Actually the old content how do you make all content useful How do you how do you deal with all the content out of date. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► You know do you go back and edit and put the headers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► and all that saying this is an out of date go here for an updated version you know like there's all sorts of challenges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► I decided rather than doing all that I'm going to have like one continuous look at a page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► and that was even more boring than I expected so that's pretty much it's all I got. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► That's funny bring it up because when I looked at market. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► Org I noticed that your very long headphone post was very very short but it was a link post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► and so I thought to myself well weird I guess he added some sort of like read more functionality to his to second crack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► because to my knowledge that didn't exist at the time and then I clicked the link post to your own post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► and realized oh you just had this as a singular file or singular U.R.L. Just sitting off the route. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► And and I did notice that and it did take me by surprise that that's how you handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► and then once I saw what you had done it made perfect sense why you had done it that way I don't think it ever because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4256">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► and what I would have done what I can understand the reason he did above what I would have done is made the new posts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► like just as a regular long post and then gone back into all my old headphone posts and put is the very first line. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► This is old you should go look at the new one here something nice that you know that because I don't like the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► updating an old article to say well these you know ten years ago these were this was the head Von this is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► thought of all the new ones that are available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► but this has a lot of google groups because a lot of people cling to it over the years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► So if you engineer from Google you know I don't want you to see that I want you to see my new review. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► I rather leave what I wrote as a sort of historical document at that U.R.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► and Then just have a constantly updated redirect. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► Like not a reader accounts of how they like header at the top says hey you're about to start reading. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► In case you didn't these people totally don't I was today in a Streisand saying I feel like the new trend should be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► people's blogs instead of all the other designs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4317">TS</a>]
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01:12:06 ◼ ► and bigger until all you see in the entire screen is two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► and four because people read things I tried your instructions on how to you know set up my S.Q.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► Voltec surging and it didn't work in like two thousand and four do people do not see dates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► but anyway they will read the first sentence of the review you hope and the first and should be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► This is old the most recent one is here and you had to pay and have to keep going back through those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► and re updating links or whatever you can automate that if you really feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► but that's the way I would have done it. But I understand why you did it the way you did just it just seems weird. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► Sorry but you can do better next time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► Thanks what's worth response was the fracture cookbook three from likability and Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► Now that's a downturn in there with them and you are now getting access to that list and the has a review coming. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4376">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► But like every time I make progress I'd like to try to reassess percentage wise lower percent done you think you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► and I could convert the same number like it's like it's been like seventy percent of the past three weekends like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► about seventy percent done I did like seven thousand words we can look I feel like I'm seventy percent done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► and I just found out that I've been taking my screenshots in the wrong size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► or some of them in the wrong size not that I think many of them anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► I have so much stuff to do I don't know just written for a late October release date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► and then everything should be fine. So what do you do if they release early. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► Would you like rage quit the review even if you were half cooked on it were seventy percent Kono I would get I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► have rushed to get it done even sooner than possible I would probably miss the release and people would have to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► and it would be terrible and you know like takes the time that it takes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► I don't know about this Tivo thing in everyone saying oh it's for sports it's for small not everyone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► People things for sports it doesn't make sense to me. I think you can learn to sports you probably have cable right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► Right they're trying to like it's cord cutters who still want to buy I don't know like fifty dollars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► There's no point to stainless fifty dollars for you would be even more of an interesting product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► but just trying to get a real Tivo you know you want talk about this twitch singers are going to go on for two hours. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► It will cause a lot we can talk about because I don't think I have much to say about do you guys both know it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► Have any of the three of us actually like seen to it I have I I watched like ten seconds of it once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► when what was it something about playing pokémon like some chat room or something was playing poker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► when I go people haven't even seen it in the youtube I've seen of You Tube is one thing as if Twitch is like oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► I've seen to it have you seen to it yes I've gone to the Web site. Have you seen Google. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► Yeah well the into Google is kind of one thing which is you know you're you're right to call me out so I've seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► video game being played live on Twitter I believe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► As one of the poke him on is a poky mana pokey Man's I guess pokey man game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► and he I think was something that went around like a couple months back where it was like an entire chat rooms trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► and play one of the pokey men don't actually get people I was getting I was going to those the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► or something that was a chat room shoot I don't know what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► but a right to fish playing at they have chat rooms playing as many be many different things have played various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► Yeah and so I watch like ten seconds of that and was impossibly bored after those ten seconds and never looked back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► So I think we had an hour show us way back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► and as I just recently caught an isometric I heard them talking about it there was some rumor awhile ago that Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► was going to buy two if you remember that maybe we had a no show no it's briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► but we never talked about it because Google never did buy Twitter was like oh it's a done deal who's going to bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► And they didn't and then you know people thought they might because it made sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► and now I don't even know if the Amazon actually a done deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► I think I mean I don't know I always wait I want to see a press release on the company's Web site. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► That's what I want to see that's when it's confirmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► but this is like you know sources say that whatever Anyway the story about this time of the line which is I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► big story is from from my perspective why hasn't someone bought twitch already because twitch does tremendous traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► in an area that is underserved essentially you know for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► or not which allows you to website where people put a video of them playing video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► and you can carry a lot of the console so I have a button you can press that will stream what you're playing up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► Twitter you can do pre-recorded stuff as I Why or why would you not want to buy this because millions of people watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► I think like some of the sports champions think chantant championship thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4674">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► or seventy million viewers something that huge viewership on this the question I Why why is all this happening on You [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► Tube Well You Tube is a different kind of environment You Tube is for people making like their own little shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► and channels and stuff but You Tube is really harsh are cracking down on copyrighted material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► and you know which is specifically tailored to gamers as integration of the consuls and now in recent weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► or months over a long it's been twitches been started to clamp down on the copyrighted stuff as well like if it hears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► if it does that you know content detection of it detects copyrighted music it will just mute the audio track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► and what's happening is like people are getting their entire videos muted because there's copyrighted music like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► and like just all these problems having machines try to enforce copyright so I don't understand why that's going on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► But like the biggest manoeuvres then is why. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► Why didn't Google buy twitch Why didn't you know like they are a hot commodity they are a place where lots of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4733">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► are going to look at things that isn't well served by an existing properties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► but is in that same vein like this is not like you say oh it's kind like T.V. Even sort of T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► and people who have kids of a certain age you know that kids do watch You Tube just the way they watch T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► Well Twitch is like that for people who are into games only there never really was a T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► Analogue there was never any real T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► Channel you go do you just watch you know hundreds of channels of people playing video games live or recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► So I'm not quite sure that Amazon buying them is good for anybody including Amazon I think Google is a better fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► because I feel like what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► and which should be happening on You Tube And if You Tube is not doing something to make that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► and they need to be in a separate branded site then fine Google should have bought twitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► and made it like as an offshoot of You Tube or tried to roll it into one of whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► but I think what Twitch does is only going to go away or fade if it gets screwed up by like stupid copyright stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► or whatever and I just think it's inevitable it's obviously something that people want to do all of the word. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► It's going to happen with or without which. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► If you people should be interested in those people those people buy games are worth advertising to there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► and they're you know a demographic you don't want to advertise to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► While Amazon by them Google reportedly bid for them and didn't get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► and then Amazon did google so too rich for my blood and just bail out of Amazon outbid them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► These days I don't feel particularly good of an Amazon buying things anymore I used to feel good about Google buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► things and then not so much you know now Amazon I used to feel OK about them buying companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► and now maybe not so much with like the comics ology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► and stuff so I don't know I mean I guess maybe this is better than Facebook buying them I just think it's a shame for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► everybody who's into which is kind of a shame for Twitch. Oprah's only the people involved get a big payday. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► Twitch is not something that I want to regulate which is not something you guys watch at all so it's very younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► demographic but that's why I think like it's the future man doing what Twitch does has a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4855">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► and I just hope Amazon doesn't screw it up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► I have nothing to add to this is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► and there you should be OK See this is one of those things that is really popular that it's not like soccer where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► know understand it's really popular and always has been is just not your thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► but this is like a worldwide really popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► and you just have no interaction with it all I can really say spoke like we don't use Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► but we know Facebook as we know what it's like or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► So if you don't want to get out of touch with the kids you should spend some time in which I have genuinely been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► dreading the thought of Minecraft still being a thing in the years you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► and it's going to be like those games it just gets ported everywhere you know it because it was like it had dated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► graphics a day it was made right so it's not as if it's going to get old and people will like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► Oh it'll it will never die. The probably open source at some point and then you're really screwed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► So it was a World of Warcraft or Minecraft dying First World War Craft definitely that requires humans to maintain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4911">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► Eventually that will become you know unfeasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► or whatever blizzards next big project is will eventually I assume supply revving and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► and I guess they have enough people they could do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► but that requires way more main it's mine graphene just led him to the wild like a virus you don't need any human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► Blizzard needs to pay people you know millions of dollars a year to just keep World of Warcraft keep them in new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► content every year and keep the servers up and running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► and maintained an A in wildly unrelated news I was somewhat stunned that it only took the Internet a week to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► market coffee. Yeah I don't even know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► I thought Marco had already said that site ages ago I didn't I don't try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► and say nice things about your websites Marco but I think Mark OK see if everyone is already L.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► You know you are formatting of that's our God it's terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► but I threw together in like twenty minutes so I didn't hit home is not worth a whole lot of em right back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► or wasn't worth it's worth just enough effort to make the one page that is on that side look reasonable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► The point was to get it to give a few people like ten seconds worth of laughs or giggles or what have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► It's funny people are complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► and moaning about the fact that it's frames because I was too lazy to figure out how to get get how pages to accept it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► Yeah I was framed because it's it's a hover redirect and so I had a cloak the U.R.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► So it's just a big I Frame I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► and getting the layout the way I wanted was a pain in the butt without using tables which I don't think I ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► doing so yet because I suck at C.S.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► I'm freaking terrible to see as I say this is one of those differences like you would have been the person to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► those the city desk heroes because you like to come out I don't care that much to zero like that there is something I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► not saying this did something wrong with you if you were in the majority believe me but like there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5035">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► I know if I was putting up a single page either just a text in that I would be there make sure that Tex was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► exactly where I wanted to be in the font that I wanted to. Well that's because you're extraordinarily critical. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► Well I mean the joke still works if it's marketed a coffee splash pages last troll that is P. X. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► Then the funny thing is I think T.J. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► Lou will probably get the pronunciation wrong and I'm sorry about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► but I believe he was the first person to point out to me in retrospect I should have just had a redirect Starbucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► and I really had a missed opportunity there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► Well that's what I did with bad coffee so I only had a coffee redirect to Starbucks is looking pretty a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► and then I also have overcast coffee and podcast coffee how did you not register Margaux dot coffee. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► Yeah I did that for some reason didn't cross my mind when I was a man that's funny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► Anyway I noticed this the other day this is a week to the day it was last Wednesday and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► and I noticed said market our coffee is available and I thought what could I do with this and it will be my first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► Actually my first thought was hey did you know that Mark and I called you know to say to you Hey Mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► and a coffee is available and then I was like wait a second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► and so yes I think trolling you for years worth twenty five dollars of my money so I will go ahead and register this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► and throw up the world's crappiest single serving site and you did and I did. That's good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► It's funny I'm proud of you for for even doing this joke. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► I only had originally was coffee is stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► and then I felt like that one that didn't have the same ring to it as coffee so he said oh you're so polite even You're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► trolling something I had a domain registered for the flop house for a couple of years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► but I just let it expire in protest because no one would accurately represent the joke I was making on that Web site of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5148">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► but anyway you know my paying twenty five dollars for a year I think I paid for three years maybe four years of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► domain and they had nothing it was nothing but a redirect. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► Like it was the whole point of the domain is like oh if you type this you'll get those regrets are as much fun back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► when if you were in the circle of mac users all the popular mac browsers would first append I think it was already the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► first appended dot com and then Triple W. Dot com or the reverse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► But if you typed anywhere that's what they did before the age of the various awesome bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► and integrated you know searched address bar. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► If you just type the word by itself into your address bar I would try the dot com and or the Triple W. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► Dot com And that was a cool way to navigate but that time is past. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► and they end up with a Google search anyway so you are getting a domain not as much fun as it used to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► Do want to do. Titles real fast before snail steals you from us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► Three people are never know that was about the chat room filming last time chat room. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► When Star Wars was that I want to really really get everyone to hate me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► There's no mention of a chair and stories don't look for and what doesn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► I said there's no mention of the chat room in Star Wars don't know no mention of the chair I'm sorry I know you failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► Oh well I've been since I was in recent years about the same line there was a line in the sim I seem to remember a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► number of Franks back I couldn't even tell you the plot of Empire Strikes Back Darth Vader's mad people doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► people because they're they're doing things wrong and he kills them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQqrcKU/5254">TS</a>]