00:00:01 ◼ ► They can avoid it. Now you can have you can have your minutes in the sun here. How can I even know what this is about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► Neither one of you remember back in the day when I used to do an after net broadcast when we went live. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/11">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► You don't do that anymore do you. Now I'm done and while I don't even post the show links to happen anymore right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/20">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► Well with that in mind do you want to ask me how many people were complaining about me not doing up to now broadcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/25">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► You know actually it would not surprise me if there were one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/34">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► or two people who did because it seemed like the kind of person who ever received an apt broadcast probably feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/38">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► entitled to keep receiving after night broadcasts. Actually no it's my recollection not a single soul said anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/44">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► Sorry that's the truth and also an equally explainable trying to test. Well that's too bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/52">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► Oh yeah the thing I logged into once yeah I logged in ones I followed everywhere anyone I could find define using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/60">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► Fairport we have it we have accounts I don't I think I did post on Tyre a poster reply to someone some in some areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/67">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► and I replied but I don't know what's going on on that side and all that is one of my username and I didn't get that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/73">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► I got sort of pretty well I got my username couldn't get Marc Of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/81">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► but I got my I got my current at least I got my username and found some people to follow and my current well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/85">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► and now what I've followed some people want to follow and what do I put here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/91">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► and you can you can do the kind of leverage media it's kind of like having between Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/97">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► and Tumblr you can do kind of a rich media thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/100">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► or combined thing it is doesn't seem to be any kind of reasonable post limiter in it like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► but it's like I don't really know what to put there because I use Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/107">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► I hang out on Twitter the people I talk to are on Twitter it's exact same problem I have that are not even at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/114">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► Which is which was not it wasn't that nobody was there because a lot of people were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/120">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► and I was the same thing L.O.L. Lots of people are on L.-O. Officially. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/124">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► But the question is like when I have a thought that I want to post or when I have a question I want to ask. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/127">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► If you put it on both then it's kind of awkward for people who follow you in both places the kind of annoying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/134">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► And if you're only going to put on one place chances are Twitter is the better place for it for most purposes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/140">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► doesn't really solve the problem of how do you split yourself between these two services like if Elo had come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/146">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► when Twitter was pissing us all off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► and after that came out it would have had a better chance after Net was a decent idea at the right time for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/155">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► part that was not executed that well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/164">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► And then you know the motivation for it kind of faded away because Twitter like is always going to be shifting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/167">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► directions that we don't like. You know Twitter Twitters moves are going to be like the kids these days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/173">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► For us it's good like what they're going to just keep doing things that push it in a direction because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/179">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► basically Facebook and Twitter both extremely envy the other and in ways that make both products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/184">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► and so I think you know if Twitter is going to keep adopting like the worse things about Facebook Twitter is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/194">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► do it in a way it's going to be like the bull in the frog thing like they're going to do like little things here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/202">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► and there on the way it's not going to be like one massive change. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/207">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► It's going to make all of us run fleeing I think five years from now what Twitter is would be nearly unrecognizable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/211">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► But it's going to be done that way over you know in a gradual way it can be done over that span so that we slowly won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/221">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► And so there's never going to be this one event that kicks all of us off or drives us all to go. Sway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/231">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► It's just something else to go like we're all going to leave at once the whole party is moving over to the bar down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/240">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► block like there's not going to be like one event that pushes us all and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/245">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► and if you are the bar down the block at that point you know you could benefit hugely from that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/251">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► and chances are you're going to lose a bunch of people on the one the way to other things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/259">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► when Napster was shut down everyone didn't just go to one thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/264">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► There was like five different things you know there's always happens whenever any kind of like community major social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/267">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► site like when when something goes away the people kind of scatter and fragments over different places. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/272">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► So as long as we want to keep talking to the people that we're talking to on Twitter we're going to be keeping using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/278">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► Twitter for that and know the service and the chants you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/283">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► when you take copyrighted material like they call the you know piracy or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/287">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► but it's not really theft in the digital realm because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/291">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► when you download an item the person who gave it to you STILL HAS IT LIKE IT'S NOT displacement in a digital bit they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/295">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► copied everything so right like it's a different type. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► Well in social networking I think the phenomenon of the yellow You know you your knowledge of what's all the some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/306">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► the party to the bar down the block when anything like L.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► Comes along even though we're not we have the baseline dissatisfaction with Twitter that's kind of always simmering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/316">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► there. We don't all leave Twitter but we do is we all go to the bar down the block. But we also stay in Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/322">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► So it's like you know it's like when you take a digital bits or whatever the original person still has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/329">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► and we're still on Twitter but we're also we all run over to Ella and then we get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/333">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► and it's like this empty white room and it's kind of boring and we try to get a username and Emily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/337">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► but we never left Twitter so it's like the digital equivalent of a call to the bar and we all do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/344">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► I think every time something new comes up like well it's kind of like Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► but not Twitter someone asked me on Twitter right now what is it what is it that is supposed to be appealing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/351">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► yellow I said it's kind of like Twitter. But not Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► That's the appeal of all these things I would love something that's kind of like Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/360">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► but isn't Twitter just sort of pisses me off and pay the X. Y. and Z. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/364">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► And so we all think whatever we do for ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► and we go over to not only go over to a maybe that that is well go over to L O or net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/369">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► or whatever because it looks if you squint it looks kind of like Twitter and we all don't like Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/377">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► and maybe this will be the next when we get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/383">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► and it's like you know I mean you write it like if there was a big event that actually kicked us out physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/384">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► speaking so we couldn't we had to leave Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► But even then even if we got all pesky little keep our Twitter account to keep using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/391">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► and we're going to keep using it until something else is out there that makes us want to move to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/395">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► I don't think we're ever ever going to be a time where we leave Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► and start using something else in one fell swoop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► Yeah you know we're always going to stay on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/408">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► and be they'll be some kind of transition because we just never make it over the hump during the transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/411">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► There was conversations happening there that a lot of people that we knew it just you know we also still stayed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/417">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► and Ellen also has the problems of like they seem to get really popular really quickly before they were quite ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/423">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► it. Not in a scaling way I mean I don't know if they had challenges their Twitter to do so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/431">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► Well that's true but but in the way that they like they don't have a mobile app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/435">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► Their web app is just barely functional. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/441">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► Yeah they don't have any apps that's one of the reasons I'm not using it at all where is the app for my mac Where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/444">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► the app for my i Pod It's like well I don't I'm not going to that Web site I mean that's like if you if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/449">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► launching any kind of like social product today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► and you don't have at least an i Phone app you're dead in the water like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/459">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► That's where people go like launching in the web browser might seem like a good idea to some web nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/464">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► but the fact is the web browser is no longer the preeminent platform for this sort of thing the i Phone app is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/470">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► and it's the work of the Web browser the works for a like if you're whole if you're going to be anything like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/475">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► First whole thing is a text box that holds a small amount text in a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/480">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► and then underneath it a big list of other blurbs of texts like it's doing that in a web page is not optimal it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/483">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► practically designed for mobile like it's it is the mobile Facebook like get rid of everything today one text field in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/491">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► a box and you put some words in there not a lot of them and you press a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/498">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► and then you scroll through this big giant table you like Twitter is made for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/501">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► Well yeah that's true but you're saying that you wouldn't want to go to the Web site but don't you use the G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/505">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► Mail web interface rather than like mail or airmail the G. Mail is massive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/511">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► Emails are not one hundred forty characters they're organized in complicated ways not just a big linear timeline they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/516">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► require actions and filing and replies like that email is not Twitter No it's not Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/522">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► but I don't want to struck me odd that you immediately you know snow on the Web site and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/528">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► and it's also because like you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/535">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► and you want to dedicated to a place to do this thing I ever than I I saw because they could take some of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/536">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► but on the mac I don't want to dedicated entire browser tab to never mandatory Web site is just not nice these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/543">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► and well I don't like it anyway so it will do what it never was nice I mean let's be honest it was nice there like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/550">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► was like all the things you're talking about Twitter doing that we don't like a lot of the manifest in the web site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/556">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► with the crazy lines between post trying to show that I guess just I just want a big linear time ordered stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/561">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► and that's that's when you get I was divisive that's what I get in my little back up that I used and everything's good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/567">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► Like their business model their appeal I think the reason why people are actually using it is because it's a new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/574">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► that's kind of like Twitter and everyone wants to establish their username there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/583">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► We put a whole bunch and so anyone actually using it because I'm not trying to like you know be funny or anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/587">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► I've seen two or three posts on Elo that have been linked probably on Twitter and that's about it and I walked into it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/592">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► Like we were saying earlier wants to grab my username and like set the bare minimum of profile information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/600">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► and I literally have not logged in sense. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/605">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► Yeah I'm the exact same way I left email notifications on so just in case some people are trying to contact me you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/608">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► that email about and that happened once and I replied but that's it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/614">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► and that's I think the best hope of drawing people in is like you know those notifications are on by default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/618">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► but you know and you know their whole their whole appeal is supposed to be that they're never going to have ads right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/623">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► That's that's what they're saying we're never going to have ADD You know we're going to somehow fund ourself through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/629">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► basically like donations and Kickstarter like things from like that I don't know the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/634">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► but I don't see that working and they have V.C. Funded or not they may say whatever they say but in reality there V.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/638">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► Funded right and the thing is like a company can say whatever it wants at the beginning and you can you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/645">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► and you can meet I'm not saying they're planning on lying to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/651">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► or that they're planning on changing direction later I'm not saying that the people today can can think and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/654">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► and do whatever they want but the fact is this can always change in the future at any time in the future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/661">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► Maybe the founders aren't aren't there anymore maybe someone else takes over the company. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/668">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► L O if it even started to take off we would not really be getting anywhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/672">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► Compared to where we are on Twitter because Twitter is a lot of great things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/678">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► but its main downsides for like the good of society basically its main downsides are that it's centralized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/683">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► and secondarily it used to have a lot of big scaling problems of those really mostly a thing of the past now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/691">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► Now if we go to L O L It will have the exact same scaling challenges if it actually gets enough people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/697">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► They're going to face all the same things we're going to start from start start again from zero to get in from like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/705">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► thousand five hundred then at the end if they if they actually manage to have a big mass of people using it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/710">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► And it can replace Twitter for us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► We still have one centralized company controlling this medium and Twitter has shown this really is its own medium. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/722">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► But it's unfortunately medium tied to its network and you know as you saw like with tent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/730">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► or whatever the whatever it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/736">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► and they rename it over that is cupcake you know that it OK I think it's OK whatever that whatever that is or was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/737">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► Decentralizing this is hard it's a hard problem but ello is not solving that problem neither was apt. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/746">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► NET these these companies they're starting just like a new Twitter it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/752">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► and it's going to have in the best case scenario if they if they succeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/756">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► and actually make these things it's going to go through all the same challenges Twitter has gone through with scaling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/761">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► and growing the community and moderation or lack thereof and spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/765">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► and abuse all those there's those are all going to hit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► and at the end we're still going to have this one centralized company that controls all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/773">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► Oh seem like they're nice and customer friendly now but started Twitter when they started and that was a long time ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/781">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► Most of those people have moved on and it's a very different company with very different needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/789">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► and different stakeholders now and a different controlling party really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/793">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► and so that that can happen to any company like this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► What we need to be designing is an alternative that can satisfy the roles the Twitter service for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/801">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► but in a way that is a decentralized protocol a standard is not one central server that does all this work that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/809">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► owned by a private company is a protocol like email or D.M.'s like that's what we need. You know whether it's R.S.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/816">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► Based I don't really care about imitation details. Dave Winer can have his R.S.S. World if you want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/823">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► That's fine I don't care how it works but that's the kind of thing we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/828">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► and I know I know people are saying people in terror tell me I know that's what tent slash cupcake. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/834">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► Was or is it didn't take off and maybe it's because it was at the same time it out at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/840">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► and so it was like it was too competitive I don't know. And there are a lot of problems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/845">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► There's a lot of challenges in developing that sort of thing with especially with things like identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/850">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► and discover ability of other people on the network. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► But that's that is the kind of solution we need to the Twitter being kind of a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/857">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► It's not to say to build another company up to this point it's to eliminate the need for these companies for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/864">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► I just don't see how we're going to get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/873">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► and I say that because Twitter's really good at grabbing all walks of life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/876">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► It started with the super nerds and then it's ending it's ended it's carrying on through you know superstars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/883">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► And I'm not trying to say that that like popular musicians are popular actors or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/892">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► or whatever are not intelligent but they value very different things than the nerds do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/897">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► and it's taken a very a series of very specific decisions by Twitter the company in order to make Twitter the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/901">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► to be something that appeals kind of to everyone and yes Leon the nerds like me and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/909">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► and we all grumble about things that they do but in the end of the day as he said before this is the popular bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/914">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► and what's weird about Twitter is it's a very I can think of better word than democratic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/919">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► or unifying perhaps everyone is kind of sort of on the same page on Twitter Yeah you know I may have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/925">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► or less followers and other people like I have a lot less followers and you too for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/930">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► but really anyone can pretty much talk to anyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/934">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► and that's not something you see in a bar it's not something you see in regular society and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/938">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► and to have a regular schmo deal with something that's decentralized that doesn't have a real easy onboarding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/943">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► experience that isn't something like the web that is so deeply deeply rooted in the Internet that it's it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/951">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► It's gotten past the fact that it's kind of weird onboarding in your L's are funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/960">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► and what is dot com really mean etc I just don't see how it scientists cupcake whatever we're calling it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/964">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► I don't see how it could get there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/970">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► Well look at it look at email I think email is is a great example of how this kind of thing could happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/971">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► So email is exactly what we're talking about it is a decentralized social network that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/979">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► and it has a Discover bill the challenges it has problems with spam and abuse. But we've managed to make it all work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/985">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► It isn't like we don't have this like panacea of dictum where everybody has their own domain name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/992">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► and everyone's you know everyone owns their legal identity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/998">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► No we have a lot of people like that but then we also have like G. Mail and Yahoo Mail and M.S.N. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► Mail these like massive conglomerates that let anybody create an email account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► and a lot of people are fine just doing that any and that is very centralized within that service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► but it's still in our operated everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► and none of the services are ever going to get powerful enough to control the medium. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► I hope Google but it doesn't have to be like total decentralize like you know Bitcoin poor kind of stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► Of like every nerd has their own thing or rather every nerd's required to have their own thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► and every user is required to be a nerd. It doesn't have to be that way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► It can be more like the way email does work which is the nerds can get their identities in their own domain if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► want them and everyone else can go to some central provider this is really isn't this exactly what tents did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► Everyone else can go to that can go to like you know a couple of the big popular providers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► and get some kind of fraternity and I worry about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► Yeah that's a tent thingy of cases problem of how how do you get something like tent which has existed for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► or a cupcake not Iowa which is the actual domain name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► I did get that sketch on I think the best shot in the current environment is for something I don't know the technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► details of cupcake guy or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► but for something like that to not actually be the product so if you can imagine presence of bitcoin that it caught on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► better because it had a better user interface or whatever or some some kind of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► Sort of peer to peer concert network consensus based protocol for doing something that ends up being very valuable too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► to a lot of people like whether it's you know I mean other than people trying to launder money right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► I'm taking monetary things just because Bitcoin is an obvious example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► but like the purpose of the system was like well this is kind of a weird thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► but actually people totally use it as a way to transfer money from each other without a central mediating authority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► with consensus spacing or whatever like I mean obviously we know how Bitcoin is and that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► but I would something like that where someone builds an underlying infrastructure for this is what you need for this if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► you don't have a central server you need some way for for it to be more or less peer to peer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► but for there to be consensus of everybody about what is the nature of the timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► and how do we agree that the that this is the time line and that it has been poisoned with fake things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► and you really said Twitter serves that role and essential I think Twitter determines what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► and isn't a tweet to get permalink throw things also stuff it's not like email where you can be store and forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► and you have your own private repositories and you can delete them it'll be gone you know doesn't have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► or else you need some kind of centralized way to figure out where where the you know what's it called tweets where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► tweets are one of the euro of which we can approve the street was really made verified checkmarks all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► but you don't want to have a central authority so that's kind of a bit going does with the you know it's weird Pash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► bakes consensus thing but you know it's peer to peer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► but a large mesh network where no one noticed that they tend to Congress has more federated with islands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► and there could be very large islands the equipment to Hotmail and G. Mail rever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► but not built for anything having to do with Twitter merely built for some other thing that has a readily explainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► highly lucrative reason for being that causes it to come into very common use and to be built out everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► and for every operating system to have it built in and have a client in every platform and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► And then like it can all come tumbling down. I'm kind of like but going May right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► when that was being distributed everywhere because lots of people making money using this network the infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► People said hey you know what else we can do it on this network we can send it a little message to talk about whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► it is we're doing transferring the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► or whatever other even of the gaming thing massively online peer to peer multiplayer gaming you know whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► infrastructure is at some point they'll say you know you can use the same mental infrastructure to send tiny little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► Kind of I guess I must take you back on you know on the voice network for cell phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► and that is the only way we're going to get a Twitter like thing I think because it has to be like sort of snuck in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► behind some other thing that that pays for the pays for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► and is the tractor to pull this massive really complicated infrastructure to spread it across all devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► and the entire network and then some and shoving little messages there and then have the other thing probably implode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► or whatever and what you're left with is like oh well now we have all these clients and all these servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► And for this you know this peer to peer network with no centralized authority to authentically exchange small messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► and what it is that I mean maybe you know that I was trying to take away my massive centralized as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► but anyway that that I think is the best the best case scenario the most likely scenario because I just don't see a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► like Casey where something whose origin is in I want to be a Twitter like thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► but I'm distributed I don't see how that ever gets to critical mass without being pulled behind something as sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► Complicating this problem like the way social sites grow is kind of random it's kind of like you know it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► fashion it's like you know what what's going to succeed and fail. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► You can you can increase your chances decrease your chances with the choices you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► but ultimately it's kind of random what ends up being picked up and taking off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► and it has a lot to do with things like like you know who goes there what exactly when it comes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► when someone hears about it like we're all talking about tent like it's already dead we don't even know because at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► moment the tent was launched we looked at it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► It didn't solve our problems at that moment so we moved on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► and I disliked in my last message from five months ago I think I squatted on either lists or K.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► Lists on hand and just like L.L. Never looked back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► What I do want to ask you guys this is a gender genuine question has there been any sort of services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► or protocols like email like R.S.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► That have a resume significantly after say the late ninety's when the when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► when the Internet as we know it today kind of took off from thinking like Bit Torrent as a protocol that's taken off to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► a degree but it's still a little bit on the silly side. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► But there's been no Twitter there's Facebook I guess that's still centralized Is there anything that bit the bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► torrent and Bitcoin combine kind of Bit Torrent it's tracked us piracy right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► That's the thing like no I want to deal with this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► but if it means you can get free stuff then you know so that spread you can get a bittorrent client for everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► or other they have the tracker problem looks like it's like kind of centralized exactly so that is not distributed Bitcoin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► The tractor there was like laundering money or buying drugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► or whatever like you know a way to exchange money between parties who don't trust each other right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► And you know speculative you know trying to get rich quick by you know like there was a tractor behind behind bitcoin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► as well and that is like Bit Torrent in that it had a tractor to pull it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► and also what I was talking about where there's no central authority are does have the consensus problems of like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► anyone gets more than fifty one percent more than half of the computing power you can theory poising the block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► and also that you know the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► or big long Glenn Fleishman was it new disruptors I think it was a talk show maybe was a talk show via trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► explain any way they can it's not it's it's a little bit to wrap your head around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► but for the most part like it's not a great system for what I was describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► but it's like Bit Torrent Plus this other thing and I feel like there's something else out there if it's not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1434">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► Piracy or buying drugs or laundering money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► So maybe it's porn maybe games right some other tractor is going to pull whatever the next iteration of this is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► I don't think either one of those is sufficient to be an infrastructure for a centralized where like Bing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► but it proves that if you have a big tractor you can make the craziest weirdest most unfriendly protocols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► and stop spread everywhere I mean you're making good hardware fervor bit going to right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► and you just need a tractor that is not like Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► and then you need that to be successful long enough for someone to say hey we can put messages infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► and then you're off to the races because someone else has done the hard work for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1471">TS</a>]
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00:25:38 ◼ ► There's like some things are kind of embargoed I think but they have a video of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1538">TS</a>]
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00:25:55 ◼ ► and it all gooey stuff that you can also get in there if you want you can inject a Java Script you inject. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► Now you have full control of our site so it's on Squarespace I've done a number of shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► and square space my wife has on Squarespace. It's really there's a lot of reasons for this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1563">TS</a>]
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00:26:15 ◼ ► Square space is all this giant platform with C.D.'s and everything evidence optimize. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► They take care of ASIO for you it is incredible all the stuff you get. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► They have commerce you can build a store you can sell things you can have a blog you can a portfolio it so much stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1583">TS</a>]
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00:26:44 ◼ ► I like when someone else takes care of fashion for me and because I'm not a fashionable person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► and Squarespace you can always you can keep your site looking amazingly trendy and up to date. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► If you use a pick a new theme every every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► or two because the heading of the new always new themes that just look awesome you can look at the while that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1617">TS</a>]
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00:27:42 ◼ ► Once again square space a better web starts with your website. I'm reading the sponsor read tonight on parchment paper. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► Our printer ran out of regular paper earlier this afternoon was that after ran out of paper when I was there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► Yeah when you were here I put in at the last like clump of. Regular paper I could find. Now that's gone too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► As a legal paper comes in clumps my wife and I came to realize that this evening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► when I was discussing our lack of paper that we've been saving all this we have like resume paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► and parchment paper from from back when these things mattered. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► And it's the cheesy stuff it's like imagine if you had a resume if you have a resume paper. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► when in the rest of your life you will ever be applying for a job where a paper resume would even be accepted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► Secondly if you actually found one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► and applied for it with a paper resume imagine how it would look if you say if you gave this like this blue paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► that's all this blue parchment paper that has a big Southworth watermark across the middle of it is crap possible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► That would be a big upgrade from what actually happens which I have experience is what actually happens in the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► If you're lucky you applied to a job directly through some crazy web site if you're unlucky you end up going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► recruiter Either way no matter how you format your resume they will demand it be formatted in some other way couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► possibly pasting blocks of text into multiple text areas on a web page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► and that will go through seven different systems so that by the time you said down in front of someone what they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► have done is printed from their web browser or whatever interface they see your resume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► and it would've come out as an unholy mess badly wrapped overly formatted like it would just it wouldn't look like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► resume had been put through a blender and that is what they have in their hand in front of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► when they're looking over quote unquote your resume bears no resemblance whatsoever to whatever your resume began so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► actually it would be a huge upgrade for them to have a piece of paper in their hand that I printed with my resume from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► the way I like it but that's not the way it happens. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► Yeah exactly when I was left applying for a job that had already started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► and it was like I made this awesomely formatted you know P.D.F. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► Resume and everybody wanted either word or like a plain text paste out of all the key words. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1794">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► but at least they can print the word document the worse is going to go through like a recorder system an H.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► System then comes back out of the printer whether you can tell that the whole used to be worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► or like the web browser put these insane footers in headers and then are they still do release these tiny text now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► but just yeah it's terrible I guess that maybe we're just on our way passing through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► and eventually I'll just be like my resume is on the Web put up on your i Pad while you want do some follow up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► Let's do it. So we had some very interesting emails from Hendrick who is part of pixels on Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► I don't think I'm the most qualified of the three of us to talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► but John I think you were lamenting at the most would you like to cover this particular piece of follow up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► So last week we were discussing a piece of information posted to Twitter as an image of text with no problems that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► could determine and and it was discussed in as a hypothetical if this is true it would be gross. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1851">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► It turns out that is not true what we were talking about was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► when viewing ten video on an i Phone six plus six plus that actually has a precisely ten A.T.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► Pixel screen one hundred twenty by ten eighty does it does the i Phone six Plus blows the movie up to the off screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► three X. Size and then shrink it back down to ten a year does it just show it directly at native Tenney. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► And that's what the image of tech said that it does that scaling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► and I was crazy because it's like you've got the you've got the contents you've got the screen there are actually pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► per pixel perfect map for each other why would you ever pass through any scaling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► and shrinking process all you're doing is destroying information and we went back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► and forth a discussing that none of us know what actually went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► and what turns out is that they do do the crazy hard thing which you're discussing about changing resolutions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► or changing the native output or I don't know what that's how you want to describe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► but the bottom line is that if you show. Ten N.E.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► or if you just make a view of any kind you have the power as a developer on an i Phone six plus to get exactly one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► one pixel accurate rendering of whatever it is you want whether it's an open G.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► View or a video thing or even even Actually I think you can do just that YOU I COULD BE YOU. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► I think it has to be open I think and I don't look at the if it was that native scale thing was that only in G.L.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► View and I don't have to look at that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► But anyway this will provide a link for this in the show not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► but it is an apple dev form see only be able to follow the link if you have a developer account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► but if someone asking some a question like have got some content it's perfect for ten eighty I want to get it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► rendered exactly can I do that and I went back and brought the answer as you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► and so Hendrik did a bunch of experiments to see before finding these guys are going to show this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► and what he did was he played tended to be content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► and it's very difficult to tell by looking at like we said it was going to tell the naked eye whether it's scaling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► but he played like one of those test pattern images with very fine lines they have one pixel lines which is why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► works as he can say is this how it's supposed to look is that an MPEG artifact or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► but the easy way you can tell is he would have to show the player controls which are like you know you I get views [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► and when the U.I. Can views come on top of the image parts that are not covered by the by the U.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► Could views change appearance so they get blurrier or you know that they look different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► when those things go away then it goes back to what we assume is native one to one most of the posted a video of this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► You could try yourself within the video which is a ten P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► Test image or whatever but I mean that was like the hype of the usual practical proof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► and then the more technical proof is in the forums thread where you can see people from Apple saying yes if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► view that one to one pixel you can get it here is how you get it use the A.P.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► As you can use so I would assume that in all cases where Apple can get that one to one like for example playing video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► without any controls over they do but it's interesting that they're able to not only switch but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2035">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► and disappears like Apparently this watching all the time not just from apt to happen within a single happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► when elements of here so it seems like Apple has the various different scaling modes for different views [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► and alignment with the hardware down down to a science here where there they're able to switch at every opportunity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► do whatever is the most efficient and whatever is the best possible choice for the screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► Yet hang out before there's actually cricket in my office I think that's because you can hear it as hops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► when you need him come riding on the rug sleeve you totally ignoring this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► and it for what it's worth I did find the article that the block O. Text came from. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► Actually I think somebody linked it to me and I think I found it but anyways it's the Register dot co dot uk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► Actually I'll just put it in the chat room it was in the show notes for last episode if I had known that origin is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► All right well in the best part is the title of this article on The Register dot co dot uk is Apple i Phone six Plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► gorgeous that's pixel destiny death density Excuse me but it's wasted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► Yeah so that whoever posted that are the register people were confused by the fact that it doesn't matter screenshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► always are taken in the high resolution even when you're you know you can prove to yourself either with your own code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► or with your own sample video that it really is showing a native one to one ten eighty without any scaling up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► or down if you take a screenshot of that it still ends up larger like a screen shot a mechanism blows it up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► I can't find it nice so the night of the video can give give me clean at a point here the same thing that we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► We found cases someone sent Casey a link to the video that that screen there in the text was so hard for a green arrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► for him. Dog This was the crickets. OK The problem is a no longer existing murderer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2150">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► Why do you know what I meant it the same thing if they take in the native resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► but say the higher the point is the file on disk is ends up higher as you want to go into arguments about what stages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► of the gunfire is is it or is it not a living soul. When is it when is it a life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► I mean understand as thinking you'd be drawing where I think they're taking a native resident say what at one point to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► but not say that we're discussing the memory buffers now now we have them argue about whether that well technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► it's not really as they like to see it if people ever wonder why we sometimes believe like these somewhat flippant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► and questions this is why because all we do is get people being completely pedantic while I said he was trolling me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► congratulations Slater old man this show such a trainwreck I love it is your cricket your cricket then now I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► to talk about the cricket. So we're going to go badly. Mistakes were made. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► Well I I did my usual move of just dropping something heavy on it just leaving it there and I'll deal with it later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► That is truly a new level of procrastination. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► What's even worse is that I what I dropped on it was a i Pad two in a one of those like bookcases that was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► nearest thing that was big enough and flat enough to do what I wanted to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► And gosh darn it people like me it's a tiff I hope you didn't if you're listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► and hope you didn't need your old i Pad two case anymore because it's going to be sacrificed for another. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► It should be clean of all easily. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► Yeah I hope she makes you clean the guts off of it and I have found a use for an i Pad two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► I'm not even drinking and this is the best man to do we want to actually try to come back to this if you will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2274">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► No it's so I actually I actually put the test video on my six plus to see how you know how noticeable is this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► in the in the last episode. Almost everything I said was wrong I was. I had said both. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► You won't notice the quality difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► and there's no way Apple went to the trouble of making this work because who cares it doesn't matter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► They probably just double scale it and so it turns out they didn't go to the trouble makers where they did care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► and on the test video showing a test pattern the quality difference is noticeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► and not you know I don't think it would be noticeable in regular video watching. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► I don't think anybody would ever notice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► But if you want to test video you know when it when it's full screen you see it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► Unskilled and if you tap the screen to show the bars you see it get scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► and everything kind of will the the lines the way it like alternates one pixel black one pixel white in these in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2332">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► lines. That way you can see if it gets blurred a lot it just turns gray. It's very clear like this which is obvious. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► but I guess I still don't think it's worth the effort to just do it for this I think the way they did it was clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► for Open G.L. That makes more sense like they can bypass a scale or for Open G.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► To have direct access to the pixels that makes a lot of sense I totally understand why that is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► and I guess I didn't think of that as as a potential reason why else this would have to exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► when I was saying this would be where the good I still maintain that while you can see the difference in the test video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► I don't think it matters for video playback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► and the interesting thing is as pointed out by Hendrik as I seem to confirm with experimentation if you put an opaque [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► U.I. Could view on top it does not scale. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► I don't know they don't need to do it ever need to composite it so that like I said they're taking every opportunity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► say do we really have to go up and then down again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► And if every single view on top of your open jail view is opaque The answer is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2395">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► No you don't I can still go direct to screen so I was going to write to screen with the U.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► I mean I suppose I would want to I guess even if you had like a three X. Image either as part of your U.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► Right you would scale that image and you know in the off screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► and then put that in composite together you are not composite of the other just blended together because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► completely opaque. So even though you had a three X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► Three source it would be displayed native you know a scaled native down version of itself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► So I think they did the best you could expect with the hardware that they had on hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► and there was another little piece of information at about this I forget if it was the same person was Hendrik [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► or somebody else but they're talking about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► Why would you ever you know why do you want to take video and then there was a perfectly native fit for the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► and scale it up and scale it back down that it's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► and this bit of a rave is offered for a somewhat related scenario we're not quite in there in the realm of digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► video where if you shoot video in a certain resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► and then the question is why would you ever scale that video up to be a much higher resolution for editing purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► only to scale it back down later for the final product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► or not scale back down like why would you ever wonder that what you know or scale back down not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► or it to the original size is like smaller size the answer was that in this forum both open the shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► and it was that when you scale something up you're making it like blurrier and you're stretching it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► but you're essentially adding information now it's interpreted information based on the information that was there your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► synthesizing information you know that's how the scaling works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► but by synthesizing that additional information it does actually add information to the image. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► Fake information made up information guesses but that information is added so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► when you scale it back down if you don't go all the way back down what you get in the end is an image with more visible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► detail than the one you started with because it made up the details that made up is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► when interplay them so if you take it to Cambridge scallop for Canaan. Well that's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2515">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► Now take it to camera scale to eight K. and Then back down to four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► Will look better than if you just took the two Gammage and scale it up to four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► Because you added all that information and then you shoved the new you made it you know you chunk it back down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► and that was the argument anyway I don't want to be my film adding that the argument in this in this film editing form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► but that's that's an interesting point I don't think it applies to you eyes which are not photographic images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► I can understand how you might say well fake information made up by you know by Kubrick interpellation is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► not have any information at all because it will leave you with a more detailed image. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► Our second sponsor this week is I think they're new to our show. But anyway there are new to us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► It's a studio neat so you probably heard of studio need or at least one of their products. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► They've made a couple of things that I really enjoyed So they started out with the glyph. G L I F. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► They started out as a Kickstarter project I believe that was Kickstarter first I believe that's right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2573">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► and because sort of first anyway started I started out with the glyph which is a tripod mount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► and a stand for i Phones And what's interesting too is that they made this adjustable at this at the outset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► and so because adjustable it already works with the new i Phones including the six plus with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► or without cases which is pretty awesome. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► You know there's a lot of i Phone accessories out there that many of which become effectively worthless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► and unusable once the size of the i Phone changes and they've they've by by foresight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► and probably some luck been able to buck that trend and their stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► and stay useful so you know good on them for that anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► So that's the glyph studio needs tripod mount and stand for i Phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► but we're actually talking about today is that they've moved onto cocktails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► and cocktail related products so this is Katie's wheel house here not the parking lot right you drink in the parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► lot. It does happen before a football game but you would. No about that either. I'm from Ohio I know about that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2636">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► So anyway they need a studio he has moved onto cocktails with the neat ice kit and Katie both you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► and I have neat ice kits so Tom and then the guys a studio there on a mission to convince you that making art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► and cocktails at home is not that hard. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► Cocktails are simple you get a few readily available ingredients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► and you already have access to everything a fancy cocktail bar does except for clear and correctly sized ice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► and then made the neat ice kit the need I think it is a set of tools for creating the right eyes for your at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► cocktails. So Casey can you describe how this works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► Sure so the way this works is you order a kit and it has some foam insulation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► and within that you place this she was that silicone mold and you fill the small with just tap water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► or maybe if you really fancy like stuff out of a pure water filter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► and you put that sort on mold in the foam insulation you put all of it into the freezer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► and you let it sit for around a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► and then a day later what happens is you have this I think it's about two inches wide by two inches long by four inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► deep rectangle not a cube were meant for they were tender their solid you know that. Thank you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► So anyway so you have this basically treaty rectangle and you half of it is really cloudy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► and the top half of it is perfectly perfectly clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► and the reason that happens from what I understand is as the foam insulation keeps the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► and sides insulated the top is exposed to the freezer air in so it freezes from top down and so all the impurities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► Well then they give you a mallet and a chisel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► and you can break this rectangular prism whatever Marco just called it in half of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► Thank you solid and and then you have now a two by two by two perfectly. A clear block of ice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2754">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► It is extremely fussy extremely silly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► It is by most arguments a complete waste of time and every time I have a drink This is exactly what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► and I love it and I but I am so I would I mean we are kind of paid to say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► but Hand on heart this is absolutely true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► I love my need I skate I love it so much that I actually stockpile uncut bricks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► So if for some reason someone comes over unexpectedly or maybe I've just had a very bad day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► and I have plenty of crystal clear big ass ice cubes as they call them in order to put my vodka on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► and I cannot recommend it if it really is fantastic I did a review of it on my website which we may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► or may not remember to put in the show notes but by ten of them because they're awesome. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► I actually ordered one for myself before they sponsored the show just as I thought was interesting and I've. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► They didn't say this but I try to few of the other solutions out there to try to make like fancy I said home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► and none of the other ones were as easy to use as this one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► So anyway each need I scan includes the mold the chisel which is also into the bottle opener right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► A club that doubles as a muddler and a Louis bag and I didn't know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► but apparently Louis bag is a bag you crushed ice it like you put the ice in the bag you hit the bag with your club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► and then out comes crushed ice is that roughly correct. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► Yeah that's the idea so if you had a situation where you have a cocktail that requires a thin but tall glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► and I forget which ones they are off on my head but you could take your big ass crystal clear ice cube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► and then chop it up a couple more times. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► Throw that ice into the Lewis bag use that model or like Marco was talking about bang bang bang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► and crush all that ice and Louis bag and now you've got crystal clear crushed ice instead of a cube right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► Or you can even you can you can crush up the cloudy half of the cube that you have out there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2875">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► As putting your dog bowl like I did but because hops with the dark hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► but the cloudiness he was happy to have ice in his bold regardless of whether it was clear or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► but people care so we can have the cool the cool clear eyes for ourselves anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► The skit also makes an amazing gift for the holidays for weddings. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► I actually ordered one for myself and they also sent me one like two weeks later just because they like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► and so I gave the second one away I read gifted actually but I gave it away to make a great gift. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► So anyway check it out go to Studio neat dot com and use code A.T.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► when You check out to get ten percent off anything in their store. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► Really I love you as they have so many great products. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► Can't recommend them in a studio neat dot com Don't forget coated C.P. Thank you very much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► I could go on forever about stealing and are such nice guys. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► They're awesome like it did even better that they're such nice guys. Well yeah I would still go on and on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► I've met them and they're fantastic they're there that night in person as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► Yeah I would go on and on about the need I could even if they were jerks because it's that wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► but they are also that want to perform. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► Yeah I'm a big fan of their cars or not it's a stylus for i Pads I've got that one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► Yeah it's like I try to have tried a lot of styli for a touch devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► and none of them really work for me as well as the cars are not that I even have the fancy one from paper pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► and I'm not an artist at all and so it doesn't really work for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► but the cars are not it is awesome that it's like it's like a dry erase marker basically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► Like that's it that's the feel has which was the reason they made it so big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► and chunky like that is because that's roughly the precision you have with any of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► and so they made it kind of fit that it made the form of it fit the perception that you actually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► and so it just makes it feel like more right you know I hear you anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► Attempting to make it through the steps and get to a topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► but it's not looking good so far I don't have a now so let's talk about bent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/2994">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► On tests because we haven't done that enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► And it really started with a topic stream that the mark of the movies he derails the to be forgotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► and whatever he was talk about to make sure we get to it even though thoughtful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► Exactly and then to the bingo bore people. It works otherwise we all follow it every week. Nobody wants that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► No we would get to be the same total amount of time with that part of the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► or the end they would just keep going. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► Anyway last night talked about the Consumer Reports test and and I mentioned bunch of stuff that I didn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► and their report apparently was there and either I missed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► or I sort of early version of the report it may be a real blog of the report that didn't quite correctly copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► and paste the content part of your findings from Twitter on your i was device doesn't show the full euro anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► but a way because the reports did test not just how much force does it take to break these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► but also how much force can be applied before what they call defamation which is what I was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► and how much more can you apply before it doesn't spring back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► And so you can see we'll put the link in the show it's again those concerned words as you can see they they just of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► that for the i Phone six and six plus as well so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► And speaking of bending i Phone six and six plus and warranty repairs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► We got some interesting feedback from listener Jared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► and he says I made the mistake of looking at my i Phone six from the side bending from carrying it in my not at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► skinny jeans I was his emphasis. I'm sorry skinny jeans and soo pants bent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► Point is right at the bottom of the lower volume button went to the Apple store yesterday Chicago's Lincoln Lincoln [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► Park which is usually super awesome in accommodating and here's where it's interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► The genius proceeded to tell me that based on an article in scare quotes they had received as of October third that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► bending of the phone only occurs because a lot of pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► or blunt force in the scratches on my case which were because of keys in my pocket by accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► and was an indication that my phone had been mistreated. And they wouldn't cover the bend and warranty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► Thus I would have to pay them three hundred dollars on top of the nine hundred dollars that he already shelled out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► because he says he bought a T. Mobile hundred twenty eight gig non-contract phone so that's a change. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► And it seemed at first that Apple was pretty happy to do a warranty return or exchange on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► I didn't see him though as a Marco said he thought that he thought that if you brought it to an Apple store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► and had a band and it was still under warranty maybe Apple will be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► or playful because because we had heard reports from people who did that yeah they will get one from someone who said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► don't know what it was Twitter feed back but I did read reports like the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► or third day after this story come out this might happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► They were saying people people who ride the Genius Bar and they're like oh yeah you know that shouldn't happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► Here's a new one. And now we've heard not just from Jared But we've heard from a number of people I've seen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► We have at least two feedback emails here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► and I got a couple of tweets to this point as well that it sounds like in the last few days Apple has changed their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► and has issued some kind of directive from above saying they're no longer going to replace phones are being bent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► and I don't know I mean I think we don't know enough about this problem yet to know whether it's actually a real problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► It was sounding at first like it was going to be a big problem and then the Consumer Reports thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► and then it's like oh well it's not really a problem as much maybe probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► but you know we're not going to know for like six months like in six months if half of it half the people you know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► and these people aren't like totally abusive then I think one of the others actually was a bit of a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► Well the third course doesn't give us the information because they test they show a range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► and let me look to they do the five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► and I test as well because we can compare it to is the most recent Apple phone that we may be familiar with the i Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► six was not super weak like the second. Plus we're not the bottom of the barrel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► They were more towards the middle middle low end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► but it wasn't yet so there was same as if you see one you haven't heard lots of stories about they want to make getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► better but it's basically one of the weakest is no one's buying it yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► Well if you see one with a we can attest the six was the second we has the six plus was the third weakest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► and the range is not astronomically hazily I well I was was the i Phone five was considerably stronger. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► It didn't get to form until hundred thirty pounds of pressure versus the six which performs at seventy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► and six plus which to forms ninety so this is a range from seventy two hundred fifty pounds of pressure for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► defamation from best to worst right and to the i Phone six plus is just shy of the middle it's on the low end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► and you know so. But like the scene like ballpark and like is it is a difference. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► That's why I got into I thought about last show which is all right so this these test tells whether to format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► but we don't know what the expected range of pressures that a phone in your pocket get subjected to are both based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► the length of the song which is what I was talking about last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► but also just forget the length of the phone to say uniform form length. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► If it turns out that the pressures in a person's pocket generally peak around one hundred pounds of pressure that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► that Apple's i Phone five was comfortably above that range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► and now the line of phones they've released is below that range. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► and so it could just be this is a threshold like in general you know the worst you're going to feel in a pocket is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► hundred pounds of pressures as long as your phone clears a hundred pounds you're finally we don't know where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► dividing line is what is the expectation of pressure and so the second email from Chris M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► Is sort of a contrast to the previous one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► It says he had a phone that was kept in his left pocket played a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► or a flight so there was no tightness in my pocket nor was it pressing against anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► and cetera not a mark on it took it to the Genius Bar the genius person agreed that it had not been mistreated to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3352">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► I couldn't replace it under warranty because of the aforementioned order from above that they're not doing that anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► Right now we see the numbers of the pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► and never felt any tightness like you think I'm bending themselves not your regular bending your phone like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► bending because pressure is being applied to them it could be that the pressure is applied in such a way that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► distributed across your legs so you don't feel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► but somewhere somehow there's only seventy pounds of pressure being applied to the center of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► That's like best case to do be harder to bend it if you play it's only pounds of pressure to someplace other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► directly in the middle using the edges of the falcon like using a three point press holding the very edges putting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► pressure at that the worst case scenario right. You had to apply more pressure if you were playing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► If the distance from the folk rim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► and the edge of the thing was shorter so somehow pressure is being applied to these phones the thing we're missing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► is the expected what is the environment of the pocket like in terms of pressures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► and if you if you're going to build something to stand those pressures is is this bone just under warranty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3413">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► and that I guess we'll find out like Margo said Experimentally I just like all your friends to be different their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► pockets are all them slightly bent in you know a couple months right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► And you know when a new i Phone comes out when has any kind of like potential physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► or design flaw you don't really know until a few months in like how bad is it like the i Phone five came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► and the edges scuffed up pretty easily and should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► and should lighter color metal underneath you know that it took a lot of figure out that was going to be a thing right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► The i Phone four came out everyone thought interrogate was the big problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► when really the big problem for the proximity sensor in the home until now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► and yet that wasn't the one with a home button always died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► and you know you don't really know if not every i Phone is perfect some a better than others I think with this one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► see I'm actually seeing this table in Consumer Reports. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► Key separation I don't really care about because I don't think like I think the defamation is is the more important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► column the one that people actually more likely to hit and get upset by regular use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► What's interesting two things first of all. All that by the by their measurements. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► The six plus is actually stronger than the six which I think is the opposite of what you probably expect. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► Secondly the the six withstood only almost. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► Only slightly more than half as much force as the i Phone five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► and so that's a pretty big difference to to only be able to withstand roughly half the force that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► substantially weaker and again because this test is synthetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► and you're right it doesn't you know we don't know how this will hold up in practice but that does look like a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► The round numbers make me worry about it a little bit too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► Why is it seven hundred ninety one hundred thirty like is there I don't know if they're just kind of saying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► reflects the imprecision in our experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► and we do my show the exact numbers because that would that would that would show a degree of certainty that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► actually exist in the experiment. I mean there are a lot of variables here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► These devices are not uniform solids like they vary on the inside they have different materials at different points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► and there's the weak points of the volume buttons below strengthening strips in the printed circuit board on one side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► and a battery on the other so there's all sorts of variables going on here so it's not a straight forward test. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► So that's what really matters is the the environment you know the environment these phones are subjected to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► One up there showing similar you know being the weakest in the test and being a phone has been out for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► and then we've heard nothing about bending. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► Makes you think it can't be that terrible because it is going to give people who are going to baby their phones it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► not going to be a she see one owners you know like the Apple ones of the people are going to care about the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► device and getting scratched out as of like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► I know the device is a really nice an appeal to people who like nice things I think the agency makes really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► looking phones but if I had to take entire groups i Phone owners versus eighty one hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► and say of these groups which one will treat their phone face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► or I'm going to pick the I thought I think it attracts a certain kind of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► and so if we haven't heard any major easy ones then yes is it because they haven't sold any of them it's because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► don't get any excitement from telling people they see want to spend I think literacy in a story anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► If it was it was a big deal this is a bit like oh wait you see they can't catch a break to make these great phones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► known themes to buy and now they may want to bend. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► Honestly I don't think that's I think the the things that you just kind of disregarded are pretty big things like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► no one's buying each to see phones in general which is part of the problem ecstasy is having with their business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► and you never hear about like minor physical flaws are minor design flaws of Android phones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► It doesn't happen they're not nearly as high profile there is not nearly as much money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► and attention to be had by pointing out flaws in them. It just doesn't happen like that is not a fair comparison. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► I still think I still think it will get reported though I mean the agency one got reviewed everywhere I've seen them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► practice same people have them like it's not there they're not so rare that you're like I've still never seen anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► using a surface in real life but I've seen plenty of agency ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► and they got reviewed all the main reasons why were they reviewed if no one buys agency. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► It's now wouldn't be a big story wouldn't be in the Wall Street Journal ripened on the sites that we travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► and I think we would have seen it by now if it was a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/3671">TS</a>]
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01:12:53 ◼ ► So there's I feel like this is the first phone where the the stock design of it is just not that compatible with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4373">TS</a>]
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01:13:15 ◼ ► and I'm hearing I'm hearing very similar complaints from a lot of people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4395">TS</a>]
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01:13:36 ◼ ► but that it's not up to up to the usual standards of what we've come to expect from my phone decides. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4416">TS</a>]
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01:13:48 ◼ ► when I was handling it but the glass there is part of the glass in the front of the i Phone six that is not the screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► That's right because the curve part of the screen image is not displayed on the entire car parked at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► the screen stops. The glass keeps going so it doesn't make it clear like to your finger or any part of you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► I'm touching glass now but is this part of the blasted untouched and part of the screen image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► or part of the dies that attacks my touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4449">TS</a>]
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01:14:31 ◼ ► and you look at and tell me that's the case I have every ost of us so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4471">TS</a>]
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01:14:50 ◼ ► phone that was not going to the screen whereas because of the curved edge you're kind of always partially on it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► feel the edge now that that would be your dividing point point for like feeling in your hand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► Am I touching the screen or not is that corner is there like well it's around the corner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► Even though it's not taken to a screen right there you keep your hands out for the curve can can sort of lead you into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► I've had cases on all my i Pod Touch as always I used to always use silicone cases because they were the most grippy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► and that's what I wanted and that I eventually gave up and I couldn't find a good one for my current gen i Pod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► and move to T P U which I like as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► and now Apple is making a silicone case where are they you know five years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► but I'll probably going to try there's a local case of get one of these because I like it to be super grippy for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► but I've just always felt that way I've always felt that all the i Pod touch is very two things for me to use without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► case. So I'd like to go back a minute and explore what happened in your head when you picked up that five S. and I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► and I use her phone probably once every day once every couple days because you know it's the nearest one you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4552">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► And every time I pick up parents phone the first thought I have which is what you said Marco is holy crap. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► This feels so much better in my hand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► I think I actually prefer from in or from a feel point of view I prefer having the flat sides. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► Certainly I can reach everything which is marvelous because I never realized how much I use my i Phone with only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► But the second thought I have is holy crap the screen is a post postage stamp and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► when I was expecting what they came to there what came to be the six I don't think I really was yearning for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► screen real estate and now that I have it which is exactly what everyone said would happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► I really don't like going back but the hardware's so much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► and so I was curious Marco Do you also get that feeling of oh my gosh this is so cramped when you're using the phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► I I mean I haven't used it that much I just I picked it up and you know play with a few things for a minute here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► and there but what I notice is that I think the screen is really tiny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► I think oh my god I can't I can never go back to this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► However then I notice not oh this is feel better not only can I reach everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► but because of those two factors I can actually use it much faster. Like whatever I'm trying to do on the five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► I can do it faster than I can do it on the set and this is even after now being pretty used to the six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► and I think that it's because I can reach everything so much faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► and I wanted more screens that I was I was on the side of people that said please give us bigger screens. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► I think Louis Mansi he tweeted I think it was him he tweeted like I don't know a week ago something all along the lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► of they should have done two different sizes like like I think he said like four point five and five Point Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► and I don't know what the big one you know people who have the big phone like it so maybe five point five. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4675">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► but I think four point five rather than four point seven might have been the better size for the sex. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► I think that would have made it you know a little closer to to the four inch thing that was so easy to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► and reach everything for so many people you know obviously point two inches not a big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► but it is a noticeable difference. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► I don't I don't think we even really know yet the full value of having more screen space on the phones because so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► software can take advantage of it yet. So all this might change in a year when more apps are updated you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► But for now I think it's kind of like the like you know buying the contrasts you T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► In the store when I look at the six and I look at the screen I would much rather like it's more appealing to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► when I actually try to use the phone the five S. I think is more usable for me. Yeah I would agree with that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► It's funny because I don't know if I were to do it all over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► and let's suppose in some hypothetical world I can have the six internals in a five S case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► I'm leaning toward I would choose the I don't know hypothetical i Phone six many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► but it's a tough call what I'm really curious to see and I'd be curious to hear what you guys think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► Do you think that next year Apple will make a i Phone six S. In a four inch form factor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► I'm leaning towards no but I think I want them to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► I think they got a look at the sales numbers though like they don't have to make a decision right away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► Probably have enough sales information like they know you know how well did the forest sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► when we put out the fire how well do the five five sell about the five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► Like if it looks like the five looks like the five S. and Five C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► Are selling a way out of proportion to the numbers we would expect for like last year's phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► They're like OK this shows there is an appetite for the smaller model that like that is disproportionate to like this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4792">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► Every year someone always buys last year's model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► but this year we sold like you know five times as many of last year's model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► and whatever showing is that people who had five rather than upgrade to six is chose to get last year's model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► and like those I think those numbers will be compelling to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► but in the absence of those numbers of it just looks like I was the same as every year a couple deal by last year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► phone and then more people buy the new one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► It seems like if they wanted one in that size with you know if they wanted to keep one in that category they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► maybe done something to besides leaving the five S. and Five things like live there I don't like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► If they come out with three different size phones will we have all freaked out two phones three phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► or less just like they have the manufacturing lines up for those other ones that is going to keep making them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► but once those age out and got a long battle because they saw in the forest somewhere in the world maybe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► Anyway the lesson is they selling three point five inches anymore no they're not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► So like if if their sales patterns match every every other sales pattern that they've done with a bump the size they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► will let the smaller size age out of the sales patterns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► and do not match that phenomenon where they're going to say oh now we have to backfill that with a different phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► Yeah I don't know I I'm with you on that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► I think it will depend like right now for this next year at least or at least right now you can get a five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► Thirty two gig for one fifty on contract and that's a pretty good deal and it's a pretty good phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► and in many respects it's very close to the six you know the going from the five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► To the six is if you if you don't care about the screen size difference. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► In other respects it's a fairly small difference except unfortunately the camera is noticeably better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► I would also I would also add that the battery life. Even a couple weeks in M I six. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► Yes I understand it's a brand new battery Yes I understand the five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► Battery was a year old but I feel like the battery life is noticed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4914">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► Better on my sex than I was which is rated higher than it like apples numbers put it higher right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► I honestly don't know I think I think it's like an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► or two over any you know I was there before like the numbers when you look at them on Apple spec sheet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► Oh the success wildly higher numbers than the five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► but Slightly higher like those hours they're showing even if it's one hire one extra hour feels like an eternity like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► oh my god I still have a whole hour to go on a phone it's amazing you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► So yeah like I said the new battery stuff last time a lot of people can bring the plane about that was to remind people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► that it's the data that advantage is going to be massively exaggerated with your one or two year old phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► but I'm pretty sure Apple actually in the specs shows it as being yes the six gets better battery life a virus if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► have They're both brand new out of the box. I think if enough people either buy the five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► In the next year like Moore's more than however many people usually buy the year old phone and if enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► and you know say next year I wouldn't expect them to bring out a new four inch shown next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4974">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► or next year's cycle all likelihood they'll be like you know the success and the success plus whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► but the year after that when it's time for a likely redesign for it onto your redesign cycle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► I wouldn't surprise me if they if they had a smaller phone as part of that next three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► and so I'm thinking for small Phone fans it's going to be a rough next two years or the next two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► but then there might be something because the thing is like with this it's a screen size like there is not there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► a lot of ways they could have better executed the physical design of this phone that would've made the screen not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► too big to the people who think the screen is too big today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► Like I think the phones debate because there's already like they couldn't really make the phone that much smaller than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► what it is right now and still have the size screen so I think the six is too big for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► Any phone with a four point seven inch screen in the future is likely to be too big for you. I don't think they can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5034">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► Fix this problem with design improvements. Really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► So either the problem will go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► and people will just deal with it because they want the other advantage of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► or those people will start choosing not Apple phones which I'm sure Apple does not want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► So we'll see what happens there I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► So if Apple on either the success or the seven they bring back the four inch form factor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► How do they spin that from a marketing perspective. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► and they say call give it some cool name like i Phone Air i Phone many i Phone then they don't have to spend it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► if they time it right all they'll be doing is making sure that they continue to have a phone of that size now lined up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► because they have phones as I was now lined up now the five C. or The actually go away for the five S. The five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► Goes away and at some point you replace it with your new four inch phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► Like I don't think that requires an explanation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► We're good thanks what two or three sponsored this week Hava studio neat and square space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► and we will see you next week if it's even possible you're saying however even more indirectly even though I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► don't like like you're saying you're forcing the you even more than you were before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► So I call going to be there so no I can't do it just because it's incorrect. That's why you can't do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► Now show is over and it was accidental accidental it was accidental. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► Thank you for not getting anywhere from twenty cents to that list and the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5141">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► There are little more in the screen thing since now we have more time to run the action and that out of work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► So again as I said earlier I want to bigger screen before we had bigger screen I really want this I was hoping to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► However I kind of question the value of of relatively small screen size improvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► or screen size increases under vices that you almost you almost always hold important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► or intuition because you pay a lot in phone size for the diagonal increases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► but you get so little horizontal space with each game like the horizontal size differences very small between these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► three models and I would argue that actually matters a lot more for a lot of things things like reading and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► and you know so a lot of applications. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► You know any kind of you know email kind of stuff you know with matter so much for all these apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► It is so often the limiting factor in how usable something is web pages stuff like that that here on that square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► I can honestly I can see why some crazy person there thought that was a good idea I like it because you really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► you're making you're making the phone so much bigger in ways that only really get you a little bit of verticals space. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► Well you know like you said you are the apps they get updated they have to have the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► and like with a few pixels does matter like suddenly layouts that were not feasible for become feasible due to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► average length the average size of you know post titles Avatar images are really like it like you just need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► software to be out there be that all you're doing is stretching existing i Phone You are like is on the scene that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► when you stretched overcast the i Pad then you're not getting it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5277">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► Value out of those extra pixels but I think there are enough extra pixels that a U.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► Design for them can actually derive value from it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► Maybe but there's there's also the factor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► when you buy making the screen bigger You also had to abandon certain areas of the screen that are no longer easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► reachable in your designs you have enough control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► and save us for this labor because like most of the larger sizes not so you know it hurts you in terms of control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► but it helps you in terms of how much information you put on the screen like the type of thing where if you're so used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► to using an app on the i Pad and you go use the i Phone version you're missing half the U.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► I like Oh yeah they can't show that part of the U.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► Even the landscape mode because they just don't have room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► and just feels like you're looking at the app through like an overlay with a cutout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► and you can only see the table view you can see the sidebar apps that are updated specially for the six plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► but maybe also for the six it may take longer to do that for the six to say like OK we're in a world where I can assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► that you're going to have it actually pixel well but I think that will make a difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► and even of just simple things like you can read more text on a web page at the flick you know that type of thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► See but the thing is it's most obvious to me that the vertical real estate is a big deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► When I go to the messages app on Aaron's phone and yes some of that is horizontal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► But I feel like a lot of the difference is I can see so much more context on my phone as to the last several messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► or in my case the last several gifts that I can't see on Aaron's phone because the screen is vertically a lot shorter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► as well I think the biggest benefit of larger screen is for you know for people who have trouble seeing things on it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► going to a little screen like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► or just using a regular mobile cranking up the tech size both of those things the fact is you have really talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► much exists on both the sexes expose shows like not only we're going to give you a bigger thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► but we're going to make it we're going to allow you to crank it even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► and a large in only increasing proportion of the potential customer base. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5393">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► Has better vision in life is the things they are so right. What else is going on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► Anything else for the after show are we going to wrap this somewhat early game cube controllers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► I was hoping to avoid game to game cube controllers you know we can avoid it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► Now you can have you can have your your minutes in the sun here. How can I even know what this is about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► and I know I know you're really excited about game controllers for some reason you to say I should say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► when I go on gaming podcasts and they can talk about my controller stuff. OK I mean no I'd love to hear it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► So what happened. It looks like they're like they're now for sale again. No there's no hona I don't I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► Oh I see what this is. I understand why you guys of all this stuff. Yes it is a global level and gives us an adapter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► Let's use a game two controllers like Smash Bros is coming out of the fighting game for its alpha three D.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► and for a while we've known that they're going to sell an adapter that lets you use your Game Cube controller with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► and they're selling a special Smash Brothers branded one with a little logo on it specifically for this purpose so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► and then they're going to reissue the game you controls for the logo on it saying We know you love playing smash those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► are the games you control in your game cube Here you go you'll be able to keep doing that on the way you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► and that's kind of like kind of like if we decide about the i Phone being replaced and I go OK with a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► and they're edging out it's time to make a new four inch version. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► And what they did instead was brought back the exactly the five S. and Like give you a way to use your five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► when I was ten. Right all right with I was nine or whatever the two at that point it would be like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► Aren't you going to make a new like I know you like that phone size is good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► Aren't you going to get a new small phone last year that you'd like to control it so much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► We've given up on ever making a better control so we're going to bring back a little bit we're going to sell you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► twenty dollars bill to use your old controller from whatever year that was two thousand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5515">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► Then in one maybe two thousand and two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► Just bring him back we're going to keep we'll keep making them we never really stop making numbers we making them again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► and I think it's OK I'm happy because the news is news now is that not only will you be able to use this game to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► control with Smash Bros which everybody knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► but Apple Apple intent was officially announced that you will be able to use this Game Cube controller data of any game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► that supports the classic controller that we go as a controller pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► and the way you broken trawler which is based like you have a virtual console game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► or some other game like this adapter isn't just the you know the only reason you'd buy the doctors if you have just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► game be adaptable center allow you to your game controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► and all the reasonable scenarios where you expect a Game Cube life controller to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► and I'm very happy about that as I don't like the broken trawler for a variety of reasons but I'm also like this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► This announcement makes me think a Nintendo is a myth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► Admitting that the controller is crappy It's not like it's not shoddily made it's nicely made it looks nice it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5573">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► but there's a reason people prefer the games you control which is inferior in many ways especially the deep game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► controllers a total write off like games you would throw it is not perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► but it is better overall I think in the program throw in the fact the Nintendo is really reissuing this controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► and making an adapter for us as we admit that our friends you know we are Pro Controller has not met with the enthusiasm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► that we hoped it would especially among people who like the games you control are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► and then there are further admitting that we can't do any better or we're not going to try to do any better right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► So over to do is let you use your old controller and that's kind of exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► and depressing at the same time because what you would expect them to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► Like we're expecting with the phones at the small of the popular make me a new four inch phone that is better than my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► old four inch phone that brings along all the things I liked about my four inch phone but is new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► and improved on the things that you respect like how about something it's like a game to it. But has a D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5636">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► or you know fix the shoulder buttons to be more interesting in the game to children who they were a little bit weird I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► So it's happy news said this but all I know is I'm getting this adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► and I oughter already ordered two new Game Cube controllers so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► Question Why are there to us be connectors on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► and more importantly why are they different colors if you have one U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► Connector is not enough for four controllers apparently. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► Who knows but I don't know I mean look at the look at the connectors on it's like this is ancient technology. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► You know before wireless before U.S.B. Controllers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► but you're still not answer my question why the hell would you make one green one black that's hitting you know I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► that because you have to plug one into one board or one of the like they want you to differentiate them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► and one for power for the rumble in our forum both packs my best guess too does the way you only have two U.S.B. Ports. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► I think you know just that I have never played anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► and my best guess is that they don't want you to be a little plug into these adapters. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► Now I just would say that I like the theory in the chat room that one is for power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► and one that you need two connectors to be able to powerful rumbles but who knows. But why make them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► That's content so hitting maybe one has to be in one part of want to be in another I don't know I hope not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► Amen to intend. You don't we can put anything past them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► Well I got I got even ten of credit they're doing what they do best which is they're finding ways to make people buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► large quantities of twenty and thirty dollars censorious. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► Yeah all of it like I was posting on Twitter I was looking for some control of your plans and Game Cube games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► and the Alex take eventually whereas out of these things if you use it long enough I gets loose and sloppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► and so I was looking for some new ones to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► and you can still buy a white one which they made specially for that we are with a longer cord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► and Wells can you buy it. I think I've seen some black one saying RAM but they made them in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5755">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► A variety of colors if you are one of the fancy colors and you want a new in box not used. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► It's extremely hard to find you can really find it like two hundred dollars on e Bay you know new in the box. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► Platinum or spice games you controllers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► or wave bird similar the wireless version version of those things are very expensive if you want the new Like They're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► collector's item to this point so them reissuing them with the Smash Brothers logo on it I didn't want Valens I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► want to Smash Brothers logo on top of that I have and it was also black and boring so I bought a white one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► and then on e Bay I bought a silver one which is supposedly new in the box. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► We'll see if that turns out to be the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► but yeah I would I would really like them to make a new controller that's better than a game controller. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► But so far they have not done that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► All right I feel better for having no control right now I'm playing all your favorite Game Cube games are my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► game. I don't think I ever played any game cube games but I don't mind a flashback to F. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5816">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► A zero on the Super Nintendo recently which I loved. I missed that game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► Yeah that would be you know they were so they could issue a an adapter for any assassin is controllers you can buy them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► online now I know about like they sell they sell any S. and S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► and He has games on there you know the Virtual Console thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► and yet they want you to play them with these variety of remade controllers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► and so that's a case where you would want to know that it's not a game obviously having a pin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRI6hVg/5844">TS</a>]