00:00:00 ◼ ► High home shovelled So how's things. Good good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► I'm with the show notes I don't know what we're talking about we're talking about your kid around the mills here of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► have more in a moment. I don't think that's true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/9">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► Together said Dad Dario a good reference for Casey to get trying to lead him in gently. That is a better future. Boom. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/12">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► So right Sam It seems man down the gentle slope is here right up on it by what I've seen Back to the future a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/25">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► and I don't remember that at all as much as Casey. Yeah I am what I think would happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/37">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► I am three hundred ninety seven tweets behind and I've declared bankruptcy like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/43">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► or five times of the last three days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/47">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► Yeah I think this might be the turning point in your life for a number of things not least of which will be that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/48">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► may no longer be able to be a Twitter completionist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► Well I've already been slowly embracing not being a Twitter completionist but I think that that is long gone now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/61">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► I know I mentioned do it to kids to say and I'm actually not that sleepy but I don't know what data is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/68">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► I barely remember who you two are and I don't remember if we talk about Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/78">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► or Microsoft on this pod cast so you have that sleepy and I mean our time it is because it's been a blur. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/82">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► It's been I mean and it's a wonderful awesome. I'm so thankful for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► Blurr Butler nevertheless you know only eighteen more years of already started to count that as you know parenthood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/93">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► totally ends when they go to college you definitely worry about them as do their laundry or best case scenario. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/101">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► So yeah yeah right there is a best case scenario is screw you dad I hate you I'm leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/106">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► and you can never talk to me again. Now goes off to college on a scholarship family holidays and he goes off to get. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/112">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► And they have kids and get a job and live the American dream of the white picket fence and blah blah blah right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/120">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► So you say that but consider that because we just had a baby. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/126">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► Aaron's mom is downstairs pinch hitting for me so I can talk to you two knuckleheads. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/131">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► Which by the way in your to your defense neither of you were pressuring me to do this tonight such so make a point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/136">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► But anyways and then I've seen my parents and her dad probably four times in three days or something like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/142">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► So yeah it's we you say that it ends after eighteen years but it doesn't have to train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/148">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► or the other alternative is your son becomes a very important general in the the water wars that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/154">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► when he's an adult. Is that your conspiracy theory of choice John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/160">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► Now does I like the ecological disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► and it'll be like Mad Max But instead of fighting over gasoline it'll be fighting over water because the earth will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/166">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► destroyed. Cool Well that sounds fun. I'm glad we brought him into the world for that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/171">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► I wonder if like I'm pretty good now isn't it. I did you miss. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/177">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► Obviously you must have because this is this wonderful conversation this is most important. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/182">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► This is definitely worth you having taken literally only two days and thirty minutes of paternity leave. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/188">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► Well the thing is I don't want this show to turn into a total shock and I know you two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/194">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► and I know you'll turn it into one if you don't have me guiding you along I mean you'll get through one item a follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/199">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► up and that's just no fun. Oh yeah I mean that the question came up on some podcast I did Forever Ago I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/204">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► Somebody asked like you know if if this would be for the show just and when I went John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/212">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► and I were both on fire by five of their own shows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► Someone once suggested somewhere publicly you know should be you know should me and John team up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/219">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► and I believe my response at the time was it would never work we would need some kind of third person to like help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/226">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► guide us along because the two of us would just talk forever and it would never end it would be very very boring. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/232">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► So here you are indeed Hi everybody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► Actually I have that clip easily available because I heard it somebody called my attention for ever ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/240">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► Yeah and I saved it because I thought it was extremely pression tough it was billed and analyzed over twenty five. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/246">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► and John Syracuse on the same show if you weren't there at all it would be terrible to be both his ramble on forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/256">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► because we're definitely the commentator type. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/262">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► And there'd be nobody drive us like like you drive us really well and know there will be somebody there to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/265">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► and they were both of us there I think we both have so much to say that I think it wouldn't work like they would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/273">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► be no room for the host because they get to be talking so much about so much stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/282">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► and not willing to like yield the floor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► Ever that the host wouldn't have any time to to get a word in and therefore be almost absent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/289">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► when I can even listen others anymore. What bill now is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► Yeah like I'm I'm very critical of my own past work though analyze it the first time I ever did any kind of pod casting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/300">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► Like I didn't have a show before that anywhere so I mean as as much as I am aware of my own flaws today especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/307">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► since I edit the show I read here my own flaws over and over again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/315">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► The old ones are even worse in every possible way like because I was so mad I was so new at it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/319">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► A lot of my personal flaws were were more honorable or more frequent than they are now and I and I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/324">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► and most listeners probably don't notice and don't care but I notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► and it's it makes it very hard for me to listen to it. Plus I was just an idiot. What I mean was very exacting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/335">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► Sure no one of us explain like what the what's going on K.C. For the people who don't follow us on Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/344">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► John you're in charge of explaining things no cases and trying to explain. Didn't lose a job right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/350">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► His job is still the funny things guy. They explaining Ratso. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/358">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► So Erin and I have finally or really Aaron has delivered our little baby boy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/362">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► We had referred to him as sprout during his during her pregnancy because we didn't have a name even after his born we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/368">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► didn't have a name when we had narrowed it down to a couple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► And and we weren't really sure which one we were going to use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/378">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► And so he was due on the sixth of November we're recording this on hollowing because we're nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/381">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► and don't go out to parties I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/389">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► or she had him Wednesday morning at five thirty in the morning he was eighty pounds six ounces twenty inches long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/393">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► Every nurse that came to visit us said oh he's a big boy who dared feel thinking yourself. Oh so what does that mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/399">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► But in any case his name is Declan James Lewis. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/408">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► We are extraordinarily overjoyed to have him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/412">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► and I I cannot even begin to put into words how unbelievable it is to see this little thing that we created especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/415">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► after it took us so darn long to get him here. And we'll put a link in the show notes about that to explain. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/429">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► But suffice to say it took us about three years to conceive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/435">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► And so to actually have Declan in your hands it's just the most amazing thing in the world he he finally he finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/438">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► came out and I pretty much went fetal not literally but pretty close. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/447">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► And so the two of us were bawling it was I'm sure this is the same for everyone but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/452">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► But yeah it was it was we were rock we were an absolute wreck but he is healthy she is healthy we're all adjusting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/458">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► We got home from the hospital earlier today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/465">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► And so because I'm a masochist I wanted to record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/468">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► and get this out of the way so I'm not stressing about how I'm holding up the works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/471">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► And we actually slept OK the last couple days we had the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/475">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► Spittle nursery take him during the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/480">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► and then bring him in whenever he wanted food so we didn't have them give him a formula [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/481">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► or anything because we're trying to breast feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► and so we slept on reasonably well ask me tomorrow morning how that works out now that word. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/489">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► But life is excellent life is super good I'm super super thankful super appreciative. I don't know what to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/496">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► FREAKING OUT and IN AND mean that the best possible way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/504">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► Oh so this is your first you haven't even had your first night home yet correct. Oh tonight the for oh boy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/508">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► Well congratulations first of all before you before you encounter tonight let's keep this happy so the congratulations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/515">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► really meant we couldn't be happy for you I mean happy for him even John like you know the listeners might not know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/523">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► much John loves kids this is true this is not a lie and like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/529">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► when John is is presented with a child he basically gets like giddy and is extremely awesome with the kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/533">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► and loves the kid and I was not over so I there are no that's true that's absolutely true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/539">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► I like cute kids and kids that are nice and light. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/543">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► I'm not one of those people who just loves kids all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► but once you have your own kids the fear of children goes away so you don't feel like you're going to like break them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/549">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► or whatever and then you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/554">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► when you see anybody else's kid especially a kid to have someone of your familiar with there you feel like you ought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/558">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► be able to play with them just like they're your kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► but you can't because so that's why every time I feel Adam which is Marcos and I want to pick him up and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/564">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► and he cries and just terrible but it is still in all fairness he cries and ever anybody picks him up including us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/569">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► Yeah it's not it is not a picking up a bad job I do not talking all the time like you just want to pick him up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/577">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► when they're little like as now my kids are getting so big that it's hard to carry them around even though I still do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/583">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► you know a little the little pint sized kids like there are two or three you just want to scoop them up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/589">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► Yeah I did seriously imagine like an eighty year old grandma and her reaction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/593">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► Into a little baby and that's John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► and I mean a complimentary in a complimentary way I don't mean that nasty way at all he does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/602">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► John is an eighty year old grandmother noted so his eyes just get all super bright and shiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/606">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► and it's not working out yet I can verify that is not an exaggeration John will deny this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/611">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► but that that actually is how excited he is. That's a reaction to dogs to be fair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/616">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► Man So yes oh I don't know what we're talking about tonight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► Probably going to start snoring even though I just told you I'm not tired. Just in general but have fun tomorrow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/628">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► Adrenaline will carry him for a couple more days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► Yeah no I mean for us at least like the first night was a transition because you know it's the first time where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/636">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► is no one else to take the baby to let you sleep cases jobs take the baby. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/646">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► Well the case you can't feed the baby and I don't know that's why his job to take the baby so you can sleep well OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/652">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► but it's been a while babies waking up but I don't exactly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► So yeah I mean it is point you know that this is like you know case he just needs to try to be as useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/660">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► but he's at this point you're relegated to a few not very useful tasks because like you just you can't like most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/666">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► time that they do except it's going to be defeated. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► There's not much you can do yet to help out you know except just be supportive not your head of the game if the babies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/676">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► are waking up because that means the baby slept at some point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/682">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► That's right you know it's funny I feel like Declan's putting us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/685">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► or setting us up for the well relatively long troll actually given that he's two days old it's an extremely long troll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/689">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► because we're talking about eighty percent of his life but anyway he's actually been very sleepy for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/695">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► and so getting used to a baby that actually sleeps quite a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/700">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► and we almost have to wake him up to feed him a lot of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/705">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► and I bet you anything that that's just like the oh new and you worked so hard for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/709">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► and I'm going to make you think I'm nice and then in the next. They are too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/716">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► Perhaps tonight I'm in after all and I'm waking up all the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/720">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► Some very newborn babies sometimes are sleepier than you would expect think that they sort of come to life the next few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/724">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► But if you had a baby who was a really bad favorite You've probably heard by now you know you'll find out if you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/730">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► to us all tomorrow. But so far it sounds like you know everything and everything is average. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/736">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► Everything is going the way it's supposed to I think you're doing fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/742">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► Yeah I mean next Wednesday night will come really soon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► Like you you will be surprised how how like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/750">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► when we had to record a next episode it's going to just bring you like oh my god it's time for that already. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/753">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► So here you are going back to work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► Speaking of No I actually was going to share that just because I think I would get questions so my work gives me a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/760">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► of paternity leave and then I've saved up two weeks of vacation on top of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/767">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► So what I think I'm to do is without a shadow of a doubt I'm taking off all next week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/772">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► I think I'm probably going to take off the week after maybe maybe go back one day but I doubt it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/776">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► but the third week I'm thinking I might actually stretch that and do you know maybe like a two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/784">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► or three day week that third week and then to a three day week of work that is that third week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/789">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► and then take another couple days the following week and you know kind of ease myself back into it will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/794">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► and so you go like you've got grandparents helping you out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/799">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► Yes So Aaron's parents are both in Richmond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/802">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► and are super helpful I mean Aaron's one of five kids so they've been around the block a couple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/806">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► and my parents are retired which is also super helpful because Aaron's parents are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/811">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► and they live outside Charlottesville about forty five minutes away so the good news is during the weekdays I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/817">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► easily gilts my parents into coming down to help and then on the evenings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/823">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► and weekends I can have Aaron's parents help me this is the first grandchild on both sides. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/828">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► So he's going to be spoiled as hell no matter what I do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/834">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► Now did you was it difficult to pick a name to try to avoid bliss puns. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/840">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► Yes And so actually it's funny you say that because the way we came upon the name was my two siblings are Adam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/845">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► and Brady and then Casey then blank and then Aaron because it's A.B.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/853">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► and so we we were so daunted by how to pick a name that we needed some really ridiculous yet useful way of narrowing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/860">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► but I only needed twenty five letters of the alphabet by saying we're going to start with D. Because A B. C. D. E. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/872">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► and That's just kind of cutesy and I think it's cool. So then it was well worth the crap because you can't use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/877">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► I mean Richard isn't our name but you couldn't use Dick because dickless doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► and you couldn't use a whole bunch other names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► and actually one of the things I've been worried about is I hope I didn't set Declan up for a really awful like second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/890">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► through eighth grade stretch by Declan turning into Dak turning into a dick. Now he's hard dickless. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/898">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► We'll see there's going to be seven other deck on this class an hour about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/906">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► I hope not that's actually one of the one of the other names we were really considering which I'm not going to share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/909">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► because I don't have half the Internet say to me oh you should use the other name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/913">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► But one of the ones we considered we felt we we eliminated because it's become super popular these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/917">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► and I am not one hundred percent convinced that Declan isn't also political in that category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/925">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► Well whatever we're committed now it's all right does that mean that they're popular because people name them name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/931">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► their kids right the way it goes not every going in Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/937">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► and to be fair having a really unusual name in school is not necessarily a social event actually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/941">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► Yeah I was like there's like three or four other johns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► and I mean all the girls were named Jennifer it worked out fine so my secret had a cannon as they call it for Declan is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/949">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► De Lorean plus McLaren equals Declan. The car thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/956">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► Yeah it's funny because my little brother in law who he thinks he's like the king of movie trivia and really isn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/961">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► I'm actually much better movie trivia than he is so that should give you a rough estimate as to where he stands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/969">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► but anyway he reminded me that Richard Gere's character in the movie The Jackal was named Declan which I'd completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/975">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► forgotten about that's actually my my memory of the movie although I haven't seen in ten fifteen years is that it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/981">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► pretty good movie all told and I think Jack Black was in it like a semi-serious role if memory serves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/988">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► So you know and so yeah it's amazing it's the most amazing thing the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/992">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► and it's weird because I mean you were kind of alluding to this John I never liked carrying babies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/998">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► I mean I think I picked Marco up on earth like I had a mother is very small trade only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► or are you just put it out of pocket so we can see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► Anyway I picked Adam up a couple times I think but every time I'm like I'm a gunman drop my gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► and drop a mom I got him and drop him and when it's your own kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► or at least in my experience all it's all of that it just goes away and it's just this is what I have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► and it sounds so cliche and silly but it really is the way it was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► and I'm so much more confident making decisions about him not to say it's all on me of course Aaron's really doing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► the work and I'm staying credit for it but you know figuring out a diaper is a sleepy whatever the case may be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► It's become so much more naturally once you're there in I still can't even really believe I'm a dad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► Like that's the most wild thing in the world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► Yeah it's I'm so happy for you to see you going through this to see you enjoying all of this so I'm just so happy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► you and I are and I think the entire Internet is happy for you Aaron. Yeah I really appreciate it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► Actually the outpouring has been absolutely ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► and I cannot think everyone enough if you happen to listen to my other show analog you'll know that I'm trying to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► to terms with not replying or favoring everything under the sun and so on. I haven't done that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1074">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► I continue to not do that but it's been absolutely incredible all the support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► and I know I speak for Aaron in saying I really appreciate it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► and I think anybody who has any sense whatsoever especially anybody who is a parent will totally understand if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► necessarily have time to respond to every single outpouring message of tweet an e-mail right now literally two days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► after you had a baby. You get two things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► Do these guns worry over this baby the first one is already got the list I thought I was a sleep deprived to do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► since you tried so hard to have this baby like as you had difficulty doing the show not your pretty you will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► appreciate it more than people who didn't have a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► Right and that appreciation will carry you through the hard times. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► Like that'll give you a little rocket boost for one is difficult because you always have that kind of in the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► your mind like how hard you work for this and how much you want it over and over and I think that really will help. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1135">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► and the second thing is like now you are you're being indoctrinated into a club of people who know how difficult it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► and you will now face a struggle that all of us face which is do not lord it over other people because of noxious. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► But no actually it's funny you say that because you know a lot of our friends have already had kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► and so we always try to deny to be very understanding when you know something you have cancelled at the last minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► or or if somebody was really particular about oh I can't do that because it's nap time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► or because it's within three hours of nap time or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► and so it it never I never understood if we try to be understanding of what I'm really curious to see is how often we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► play those cards now that now that they're in our deck you know well we just can't do that because Declan is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► nap sometime between now and three days from now. So now we can't I'm sorry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► and sometimes it's the truth that's the beauty of it is that the other person will tell Yeah yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1194">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► Usually I think it's the truth. I mean for us it is rather the truth they have and showered in three days right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► No but you know but soon you will you know you will you will know firsthand like you know if when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► when you know somebody who doesn't really know about you know how kids how life with kids works they will be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► surprised when you tell them that you really can't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► and meet them for dinner you know half hour away on a random weeknight you know out of the blue for fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► and it's like really you know like that you'll see like the assumptions that people make before their parents about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► life of of being a parent if they even think about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► Just by nature of it being such a such a huge change in life the assumptions people make about how it is usually are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► You're not you're not choosing to like reject certain social events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► and not go out certain things you're not rejecting that because you want to be uptight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► You're rejecting it because you actually would prefer doing things your normal way to going out because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► consequences of going out are worse and it's not worth it if that makes any sense at all. Yeah yeah definitely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► And it's funny the things that that I made like I don't know if I should say medical declarations about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► but for example the nursery in the house is I don't know ten fifteen paces away from where our bedroom is and Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► and I kept saying to each other in the first day you know the first thing we would say is Well you know I think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► going to keep him in the nursery from the get go so he doesn't get too attached to some really you know get this idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► that he's always going to be next to us blah blah blah and the next thing we would say leading up to tonight was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► And when we started talking briefly about what the sleeping arrangements were Tonight the first thing I asked why. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1313">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► Can we easily get the pack and play upstairs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► The second thing I asked was well actually when we just drop the Caspar Inn to Declan's room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► So we're already all these promises we made ourselves like oh we're going to go out to dinner in the first month like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► all pretty much all bets are off already we've had him for two days had no plan survives contact with the baby. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► It's true but anyway so yeah thank you everyone you guys especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► but everyone for being so supportive for being so interested in error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► or at least feigning interest in a way that I don't realize you're full of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► So it's been it's been a wild ride it's going to continue to be a wild ride I'm sure you guys will periodic we ask. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► If for no other reason than to laugh about what we're going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► and then I will get to hopefully some amount of pleasure into a into a hearing you tell the story of Army baby number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► two which come to think of it I don't think we talked about so congratulations to you as well. Thank you thank you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► That's happening in the spring but this is to write about you will leave that for later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► Well tonight is about other things too so we should probably do the follow up. All right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► It's also though about hover for this next two minutes or so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► Hover is the best way to hover is the best way to buy managed to maintain its cover as it of a megastar that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► suck basically. That's my slogan not theirs but I think they should really take it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► You look when you're looking for you know a name for your project or you want to name for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► or for funny purposes. Generally speaking you know you go to a mega star. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► You search for what you need to browse the list you find something anything that is available which is increasingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► difficult unless you go to one of the crazy new teal D's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► and then you go through some kind of horrible shopping cart where you know you guys say no to a bunch of add on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► services and you got to you know uncheck the box that says please spare me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► and check the box that says please don't spam and try to figure out exactly their wording there and everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► and then you know uncheck a bunch of recurring annual subscription. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► Sound really vague that no one should say no to like I would like the freedom package please other seventy five dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► a year but what is that do I get all this crazy stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► So many record stores do however enter this market to basically be the opposite of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► So hover is run by people who like other people who don't want to hurt them and know them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► and it's just run by good people it is a very very sure that respects people so if you go check out you go to hover. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► You search for what you want the search is extremely good it's fast it searches all the crazy T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► and it shows you everything available it does like some like language parsing a bit so that if you don't have quite if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► they don't have quite what you want it can kind of show like alternate wordings are slight variations that might that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► Will you go to buy something and you check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► and you're done like there is no crazy add on step there's no crazy up sellings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► or crazy cross promotional crap used by the name you pay for it easily and you have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► and they do offer some add on services that are paid things like you know email hosting and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1498">TS</a>]
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00:26:00 ◼ ► Like the British go to hover dot com and enter offer code Congratulations Casey to go. Percent off your first order. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► Once again going to hover dot com or hover dot com to think how you pronounce it and in to promote promo code. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► Congratulations Casey all one word. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► but anyway that's at graduations Casey thanks a lot to hover for sponsoring the show so quick story related to her I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► know that that was a little bit of a read but I think this is worth sharing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► When I told Marco and John that Declan was born all was well you know we exchanged a few messages about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► and then I believe as Marcos said to me all right here's what you need to do you need to buy Declan List dot com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► and you need to get the Declan lists Twitter handle immediately before anyone else does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► and so I'm sitting in the hospital on a hospital wife I doing exactly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► and market would you like to guess where I registered Dekel most dot com Go Daddy. Now it was that Hava. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► Oh was it hover or was it hover. Actually was however I'm seeing so you're infecting K.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► With your inability to pronounce that the British way they would tell you instead of trying to do it for Israel it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► true right. Marco speaking of things that you are either creating or buying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► What's the story with your IMAX retina five K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► Whatever whatever the business forever ordering system is apparently not that reliable so I have between zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► and three of them arriving I've only gotten ship notices for two which is the correct number that we ordered so we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► see how many arrive I've been charged for three but I think to get refunded automatically it two or to Jewish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► and anyway they're on a boat or a plane or probably a plane. I think about it might be too slow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► So yeah I'm pretty sure they're on a plane between Japan and Alaska right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► We got a drop in a clip at the Lonely Island song which you don't even know what that is in fact I would be surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► if John no one knows what that is. Nope Adam Samberg thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► Yeah good job John I'm pretty much you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► and I was already jump in the fall because I was I was already to segue from baby talk to the first item in the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► Well I skip one as I say and the same way that Katie is bonded to his child it turns out that the glass is laminated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► This is fall from a different pod cast I was originally a pretty bitter that I thought I thought of Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► and I were talking about talk show about the about the IMAX screen and talk about how it wasn't laminated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► but it totally is I was thinking of the Thunderball display which is the same size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► but you know into the lap of fashion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► They opted to IMAX to have the nice laminated scream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► but did not want to get the car bult displays at least not the one I have anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► No you're right and that also is not that recent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► They have to be IMAX to have the laminated and lower glare screens like two years ago. Yeah yeah so anyway I'm a five K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► The screen is laminated. They go visit shows on her fault we have to do it here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► We're going to die you know for what it's worth that episode with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► and John Gruber is really really good I really enjoy the talk show always but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► but some of the guests are just always without question just amazing in having the two Johns together. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► Always a good time always worth listening even though you guys ramble on even longer than we do sometimes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► Yeah I also I listened every episode of the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► and I gotta say John your episodes I think are consistently my best my favorites. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► He hopes to get some just like smart speed for Gerber though because on the show to be shorter in fact the one you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► with Gruber a long time ago that was one of my one of my like top three test files like when I was making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► when I was making smart speed that was what played most of the time it was the one where you open up saying you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► had to get here as it was a good imitation Oh I see. Yeah thanks. When I had to do to get this to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1794">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► What do you have to do. Reboot into my super duper clown. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► Right so we also got a lot of feedback myself especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► when we all got it about the unlimited plan because we was on the show that I talked about how I still have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► grandfathered eight hundred eighty unlimited plan and I don't remember if you guys had said oh that's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► or if the chat room had said oh that's crazy but somebody did. And look who's smart now because as the F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► Is said you know one nine hundred eighty if you're going to make it unlimited and then severely throttle after three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► or five gigs of data I don't remember what it is. Well screw you we're going to sue you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► And gosh only knows if anything will come of it probably not but I do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► For this small stretch of time until this lawsuit is concluded I get to feel smug about it. That's really exciting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► Yeah I think ultimately the most likely outcome of this is either nothing will change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► or they will just end those plans probably. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► But there's nothing like they are not obligated to keep offering that plan every month but they're doing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► They chose to grab other people and let them continue indefinitely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► Presumably because they figured it would do less harm that way to their reputation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► and to their customer relationships but if it comes down to offering real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► and throttled unlimited like that please your second sponsor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► when it comes down to real unfair unlimited speeds they're not going to offer that they're good and these plans. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► Yeah but like I said for a brief moment in time I can feel smug. So John tell us about E.C.C. RAM please. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► I think I mentioned when you were talking about whether I want my mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► and how I still feel better about having like server class components and in particular E.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► RAM because we have just so much RAM these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► and the error rates of RAM you know have not decreased at the same rate that capacity is increased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► and so the more RAM you get the more likely you're going to have these one bit errors not you know or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1915">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Erika commemorate helps prove that reliability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► and I was like well maybe sit on my head like that I think I am then you know getting fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► and going to the same thing getting pure kernel panics because the memory is helping or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► and you know who knows. But a couple people sent me this blog post I think I got this link from a scuzzy originally. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► and he works I think in the data centers for Amazon so you know like those Google people all those people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► fleets of hardware are like you know for example back blade giving hard drive reliability numbers you can get some good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► good if you just have a tremendous amount of hardware and then you just start tracking everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► And so up at Langley shows people can read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► and decide you know the numbers are still small like how how many how many errors do you get in RAM how much data do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► you have to shove in and out of RAM before you get any errors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► But even one error bothers me and so easy RAM is not that expensive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► The main problem is that Intel I think still only puts you know controllers and everything for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► and there are sort of more expensive chipsets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► but inherently there's nothing about it that makes it so that it wouldn't be economically feasible to put in cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► stuff of Intel just didn't you know sort of segment their line according to this quote unquote enterprise future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► But I thought it was interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► It makes me feel slightly more justified in my still probably irrational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► and unfounded belief that easy RAM is something that I need in my life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► Yeah I mean if you see Ram like you know if I've said this before like I have always kind of felt that macros were more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► reliable than than the other Macs I have never owned and I am active for a while so we had one in our house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► but I've never actually owned I'm at fault and use it full time myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► but I have had a I had a lot a laptop so low that the laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► and they always just kind of feel like you know there's always a conclusion all kernel panegyric even though you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► failures to wake from sleep in everything and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► Macros I've never seen that kind of problem before and I say the radical panic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► but they've been much more rare you know on the order of like may be made easier to want to year than laptops it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► more like you know one to three years and we're not talking big numbers here but it's enough that it matters. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► You know if you do something really important or if they if they cause you to lose data. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► But all that being said like I don't know because I haven't had a non macro Apple desktop before I don't know how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► of that is just because their laptops like you know like the power management stuff that you know transitioning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► nicely even everything like that something that a laptop has to go through much more than a desktop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► And there is in those different thermal boundaries and there are different thermal limits and so by that a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► and and different component tolerances and a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► and granted you know the all of Apple's desktops at the macro use a lot of laptop components like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► They're both full of bugs that the low end of each of those the one point four gigahertz crappy models are just macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► cares really and so it is a lot of the same components now you know between labs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► and stuff so I don't know you know I guess you know ask me in a year you know how much of a province ends up being I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► Probably not enough to change which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► when you're using just for that reason it's so hard to pinpoint the cause of those things ugh. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► Right software could be like that because Argo I saw it gives people an idea of like well what could be a trivial D.Z. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► Around like that just to give like a little summary of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► and his big measuring measure of all these machines had about a third of their machines had at least one correctable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► RAM error per year so that's not they're not big numbers right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► You're not really it's not the difference between constantly crashing and I like most. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► I imagine most of the problems I actually have a laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► and other things have to do with software bugs can I mean components that are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2152">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► You know put under more stress because they have more heat involved just more stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► and they're already you know in the past like when you get a time out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► when you have a wife for example that these all why via bluetooth and everything and you know my mac pro does not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► or has to do things but anyway it's so hard to know what your tribute these are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► but I know that I prize been reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► and that's why I'm sort of got this to do about I was like something in a similar class. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► Going forward they would just make me feel better. So Mark are you planning on getting rid of your trash can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► If the five K. or All three of your five K.'s never show up. What's the intention there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► Yemen to sell it I mean it would be really stupid not to eliminate it would you know that I have no use for a for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► a big expensive death time that I'm not using. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► I've been thinking about maybe getting a mac mini for like a backup server kind of needs but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► and by the way I every time I try can figure out a price out a MacMini in Apple store you know it just makes me angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2214">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► because it's like here's computed five hundred dollars but only if you get a terrible and like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► If you get a MacMini worth owning it's a thousand dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► and they go well at this point should be looking at a MacBook Air So it's so nicely designed to push you up the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► and the new the new mac Mini's have even less upgradeable than the previous ones that you know even a long upgrade the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► RAM It's now solder on to the board and the disks are very hard to get to and you can see like you can't get an S.S.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► With the low end C.P.U. You have to go the high end C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► It's just there are so many little restrictions in place to make sure that if you get a MacMini for less than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► hundred dollars it's going to be a total piece of crap. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► That aside I mean this macro is probably still worth a few thousand dollars at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► and so it's it would be stupid of me to keep this around for you know file sorting tasks I mean I be better off selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► it and taking a third of the money and buying a Mac. Many with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Now you're going to keep it around for like a month or two to see how you feel about the five K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► or Are you going to immediately unload it. Well it has fourteen days to win me back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► You know if for some reason the five K. Is horrible and I return it then I will go back to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► But based on the reviews I mean everyone get these five K.'s seems to be loving them like I have not found a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► complaints about them the I was a little worried about heat and fan noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► and from what I can gather what everyone's saying is that you can hear the fan if you're like playing a three D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► Game with Sean that may be relevant to you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► but if you if you're just doing other things even if you're stressed even if you're stressing the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► Securing handbrake as long as you're not stressing the C.P.U. and The G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► Everyone's basically saying it's effectively inaudible so I'll see when he gets here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2326">TS</a>]
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00:39:04 ◼ ► and so on and so forth but you can kind of get a feel for the quality of the sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► and it sounds not surprisingly very similar to what it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► when you really crank up the fans on a laptop you know I mean think of the sort of it's a thin package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► It's got that kind of I couldn't tell her like the asymmetrical fan kind of like fuzzy instead of like the the wine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► that you get from a from a small symmetrical high was a pretty big fans and so there's just one fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► and it's in the back behind the stand as roots big right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► but it's not nearly as big as like the macros I mean there's not enough room for a fan I think I have been looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► and to see if anybody has any any information on this fan like I was agreement before I ordered I fix it shows you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► it looks like but no one seems to say it has a symmetrical blitz. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► I can find information on Apple's site anywhere else so I'm pretty sure it doesn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► But the big difference between the MacPro fan and that fan. It's the same reason you know you can get X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2396">TS</a>]
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00:40:08 ◼ ► Trying to bring bring air into the little slits or whatever the bottom of it I am agen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► and shot it through a bunch of tubes or whatever so the macro is all nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► and opened up plenty of plenty of power this is not the knowledge is not working well for you know what I mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► Yeah I mean literally I have never heard my macro fan ever like it matter what I do with this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► and I don't play three games so I don't think I've ever stressed the G.P.U. Use and the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► Is at the same time but I like doing just pure C.P.U. Maxing out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► I've never ever heard of an honest broker and I don't I don't expect an actor match that that level of awesomeness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2439">TS</a>]
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00:40:53 ◼ ► Yeah I saw one I went to the Apple store to check one out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► and remember that I don't have any retina Macs in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► and I gotta say that screen is beautiful it is it is absolutely the screen I would want in a mythical revised on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► thunderbolt display which as we've talked about many times in the past is going to happen for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► but I'm personally not a desktop kind of guy and so as much as I think that screen is beautiful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► Not going to be buying an IMAX anytime soon but it is pretty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► I was actually about one hundred feet from an Apple store yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► and didn't go in because I didn't want like I want my new the first one I see and I know that stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► and I know it's already coming like my little wait until it's going to get here Monday or Tuesday. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2492">TS</a>]
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00:42:00 ◼ ► Simulators run by default at one X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► and so it like a Retina i Pad doesn't even fit on your monitor most of the time searching isn't a laptop even even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2524">TS</a>]
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00:42:30 ◼ ► and three to to artificially shrink them if you do I mean the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2550">TS</a>]
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00:42:40 ◼ ► good reason to have retina screens because it just it just makes it so much easier to to see what you need on screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► the way it will actually look on a device that makes sense. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► I mean I saw a screenshot that underscore David Smith pre-buy sim essentially the same one of him writing the i Pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► simulator I think in landscape and having X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► Code adjacent to it all on the same stream not using like spaces or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► and there was still plenty room left over and I've done enough i OS development to know that's a big deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► So I'm excited for you as much as it makes me grumble that you you should hand the trash can so quickly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2590">TS</a>]
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00:43:27 ◼ ► of money on this computer that I thought I was going to have for a while expecting that I'd be able to get desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2607">TS</a>]
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00:43:37 ◼ ► Came out like nine months later like me that's I guess ten months later that is not a great feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2617">TS</a>]
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00:43:53 ◼ ► least most of the way I will see though. Now that's impressive. We have a little bit more follow up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2633">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► But before we get to that since I think it may take a minute. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2640">TS</a>]
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00:46:18 ◼ ► of our most active projects were good and we had a backup of our e-mail store from the previous evening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► but our local copy of our support files archives and financial data was found wanting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► We are architects and by law we have to keep everything we do for seven years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► and Bakley saved our business if it wasn't for the fact that back police force of the fact that we could get everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► back from back places service downloads or drives in the mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► or whatever then I can that I honestly believe that we would have had to shut the doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2802">TS</a>]
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00:46:51 ◼ ► So yeah that's the honest to goodness hand on heart that is pretty much for being I mean email we got so like Marco it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► said Get back ways get some sort of online backup they can save your bacon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2819">TS</a>]
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00:47:09 ◼ ► and masses of that that is not its own back up that you know like those things serve to reduce down time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► and phonology is Hyperion stuff like that you know things like I want to expand this drive volume without you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► erasing everything you know so you can get convenience from raid but RAID is not a backup. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► That's what red stands for RAID stance or it is not a backup that's why it's spelled All right a idee Exactly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► Just don't just don't as a geek what the eye is for every day everyone is going to mouth about the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► definitions of the i's foreign rate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► Right so a couple of the things that we should hit in follow up there's a couple quick ones and one not so quick. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► First I've tried Apple Pay. It is magical. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► I have used it twice both times for at McDonald's I don't care if you think that's gross because I like Nick. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2873">TS</a>]
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00:48:10 ◼ ► using the you know Phone pay thinks I didn't want to say how I use Apple pay because I figured that they would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► So I made it worse by using like hand wavy general isms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► but eventually I realized they were near field communication isn't just near field communication it's like you stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► your darn phone on top of the reader communication. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► And once I got the phone a lot closer it prompted me to pay and it worked no problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► And then last night I used it again in order to get a chocolate milk shake for air and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► when I was returning from home to the hospital. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► But it is pretty awesome and I'm really stoked to use it in pretty much any store I could possibly use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► And another quick one. Some lunch Shaolin men on Twitter. Let me see if I can find their actual name and night. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2933">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► Magnus apparently went away as he had told us that there is perhaps a way to do upgrade pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► or bundles to use bundles to do upgrade pricing in the App Store. I don't know if you guys have any thoughts on that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► We talked about that like that you know some of the birds that idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► and we talk about how terrible it would be because it's not it's like yeah you can kind of get a good price in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► but trying to explain to people like I know you just want to get a cheaper way to get the next version of the program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► but you really have to do is buy the bottle looks like two programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► but you'll both subtract the amount that you paid for the other one which is not the same as the amount that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► currently of yourself or in the store and like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► It's all this convoluted system and you know Mark in particular thought it was a bad idea I also agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► but the bottom line is we thought someone would try to do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► If Apple didn't stop them and this is I think a screenshot from a German apps that are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/2995">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► But anyway apparently someone has tried to do it is doing it and Apple hasn't stopped them yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► and I'm sure people are very confused by it because all they want is one program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3004">TS</a>]
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00:50:23 ◼ ► it's a new version and then there are so many like so many problems in practice with with this arrangement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► and trying to trying to have a great pricing into this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► This system was clearly not made to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► and the more you try to wedge upgrade pricing into that system the more it's going to hurt your support costs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► Your reviews are really stupid your customers I think it's worth looking at our friends a super top bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3042">TS</a>]
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00:50:53 ◼ ► Before that they just released their new update and it's a separate after had to do that for various reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3053">TS</a>]
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00:51:04 ◼ ► and you get you know like I don't know fifty articles to week to read and drama. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► Some might that some try limits to it and then you got to pay and and so they do have the pricing with purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► and just see if you have your version installed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► It's not like you know as secure you know I'm sure you could fake it pretty easily or hack your way around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3077">TS</a>]
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00:51:31 ◼ ► and figure out your monetization some other way like that's a user approach for that purpose. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3091">TS</a>]
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00:51:40 ◼ ► It sucks when an app is paid up front and they download it and it sucks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► Like it's one of the reasons why you know that generates a lot of customer hostility it generates people you know makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► people lose faith in the App Store. It makes a lot of one star reviews. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► Not to say that you know free apps don't have that but if you can avoid making your app paid up front you should. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3114">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► An apple is never going to make it easy for you to have upgrade pricing or or you know automatic free trials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► or anything like that like they're never going to make that easy. The way forward is free app with some kind of trial. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3126">TS</a>]
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00:52:20 ◼ ► The other unread thing was very cool I mean it was a little goofy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3140">TS</a>]
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00:52:27 ◼ ► Scheme in it a problem in accounts back and forth between the apps a couple once or twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► but the fact that they pulled it off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► Well that's super top is the one that did it or one of the ones that did it isn't surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► but the fact that they pulled it off was very impressive as an apple approved it was impressive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► And yeah that too but it was very cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3163">TS</a>]
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00:53:05 ◼ ► but then have you know that my purchase of that other ones attractive from a sense of panic has a bundle now to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3185">TS</a>]
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00:54:27 ◼ ► and it's basically a support cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► or like anger against angry customers who you can't get in contact with leaving bad comments on your bundle saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3269">TS</a>]
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00:54:43 ◼ ► Well we're running out of things to complain about that Apple has done so in terms of apps or policies so why not this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► So what I want to quickly mention as well that we talked last episode about a tweet that Michael Gurr which had written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3291">TS</a>]
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00:55:15 ◼ ► explain what is required for each the different kinds of continuity so we'll put those in the show notes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3315">TS</a>]
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00:55:35 ◼ ► but exclude devices with the A five system on a chip because they're slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3335">TS</a>]
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00:56:13 ◼ ► The problem is it's also not supported on the six devices so metal can require i Phone five S. and Up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3373">TS</a>]
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00:56:24 ◼ ► and The i Pad four which is annoying because the A six is a pretty good chip it's a pretty big jump over the A five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3384">TS</a>]
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00:57:24 ◼ ► or whatever like that that it's actually the Seems to be used not only the apple not actively trying to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3444">TS</a>]
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00:57:32 ◼ ► and came up with a way to exclude those devices that they might you know smack you down with the hammer of the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► and I think these are in the shower somewhere a couple people sent us links to screenshots of things they bought on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► when they launch them on their sort of unsupported device like technically support a sort of the App Store is concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► yeah you can totally buy them is that I surrender and fine when you launch it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► It just doesn't have a graphic that says sorry you can't run those in this device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► and those that have apps that I feel like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► Maybe apps or of you didn't test this on every possible hardware and has no idea of this happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► and of Apple knew about that absolutely pulled from the store because I can't imagine Apple letting you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► basically sell an application because Apple had a rule that like if your application doesn't meet a minimum threshold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► of usefulness like the I am rich Apple probably get directed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► and get rejected these days that doesn't go in the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► and this app if you run into like an i Pad Mini just puts up a graphic that says sorry you can't play this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► and it's like after you download it and whether it's free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► or not that is something that I imagine Apple would not approve of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► So there's another place where developers have a problem in how Howard how do I develop my products how do I formulated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3512">TS</a>]
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01:00:56 ◼ ► So we should probably talk at least a little bit about the after show from the last episode which was talking about gay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► And there's a couple of links that we want to share with you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► and I'm guessing John you were the one that added these. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► Yeah I think you know I got most of the things I wanted to put out in the last week so if you haven't we didn't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► about all the things that I link to but if you go back to last week shows and look billing system good stuff there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► and then shortly after the show either this came out after the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► or at least I read it after the show there was one more that I thought was good they got passed around a lot it's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► It's weird because it's from a movie reviewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3693">TS</a>]
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01:01:41 ◼ ► It's film a Chris Hulk as in film critic Hulk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► and he Simonson here you know is right as if it's the Hulk writing movie reviews sort of talking like cave men like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► this like they're like Hulk talks or whatever and it's all in caps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► and then prevents a lot of people from reading anything. Right because it's all in caps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► So there are two before I discuss what he actually wrote about gay marriage. There are two things you will need one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► There is a fire there are many ways that you can you know you can just go in and if your web developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► and a stranger in the letter get really easily but the fire truck is actually making sense. Case for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► So if you're going to try to read this don't try to read in all caps you'll probably go blind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► Look into the details of our first that's one link in the second link is an interview with the guy or not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► There's an interview now I think this is writing about him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► but asking him questions about why do you do this why do you write your movie reviews in all caps as if you're the Hulk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► was the point about it seems like it's annoying you're reducing your readership is it a gimmick whatever's on service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► you can read that explain why he does this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► I read the explanation I understand the purpose behind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3765">TS</a>]
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01:02:56 ◼ ► All right so anyway the actual article he wrote here this is from a perspective of sort of despair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3776">TS</a>]
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01:03:16 ◼ ► people are smashing together and not understanding each other and there are bad outcomes and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► and it doesn't bode well for the future and so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► and so if you if you're looking to read something to try to understand the people who find the whole movement sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► the whole phenomenon upsetting right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► Like they're not so much a cheerleader for one side or the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► but they think game again has been incredibly damaging and they try and they try to explain why. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► I mean he's he's against gamer get as everyone is at this point I believe you know I don't most of the mainstream media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► has come down pretty hard on the side of being against Camaguey But this is not like it's not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3835">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► Cheerleading for like we need to get those gamer guys I think it is a very very understanding and empathetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► and if you can get into the headspace of the people who are viewing this sort of not entirely from the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► but more like I don't know it's super long. We should just give it a try and read it. Don't movie reviews are similar. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► Very long very rambling very emotional. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► I find them interesting sometimes even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► when I disagree with them so if you are if you are still feel like you feel like there's something of substance to game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► or gate and you don't understand why people are upset about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► and it's a little game where you have to try to turn into a sentence case before you get to read it without going crazy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► So that's it I didn't know and I go into it too far but the perchance even attempt to read this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► No I don't know if I can answer for question because it's really you have an excuse not to play the baby card thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► up to my cat so I have a new baby so I've no time for that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► I was totally busy can read it to you totally meant to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► but anyway no honest to goodness I really do intend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► and now that I know that there's a way to take away the all caps I probably will but I looked at the link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► and I looked at the all caps and I was like no I can't do this and I honestly couldn't be sure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► Like with the many things that he writes as one of the major complaints is like it's long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► and doesn't seem like a needs to be about a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► but there is there's a certain charm to maybe reading one of those things you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► Anyway I want to talk around on my butt if morning because Man I wish I wish he were actually wrote this in the source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► code in regular case and then just use C.S.S. Text transform to make an uppercase on display. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► Then you just copy it out and as easy as way to change the lower case it just you know there's a sense of elegance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► but that the extension will try to sense cases for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3955">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► Getting really all caps doesn't change the sort of you know Hulk right like this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► You know like that it won't add it to the articles bag and they won't you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► So there's there's always going to be a little bit of that Hulk flavor to it but he slips in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► and out of that he can maintain that character. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► I found over the long haul and in the middle of things just us writing regular senses that happened in all caps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► Can we get Jonathan Coulton to sing this to us. Maybe that would be easier. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► Long song and still be better to right away finally done with follow up. I think we are yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► We're never done a follow up. Fair point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► So sort of tangentially related no with regard to people being on I don't made fun of losing the word I think trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► think of it anyway. Persecuted some people being persecuted that shouldn't be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► Tim Cook came out to day is that right is officially came out as being gay and wrote a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► and reasonably short piece about it and about why why he's saying it and what it's all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► and I definitely recommend reading it it is not in all caps it is written like you know like a regular human should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► read write it it is not written like a superhero and it's a really really wonderful wonderful article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► and I can't recommend it enough or put a link in the show notes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► Yeah I'm I'm really happy he did this I mean a lot of people have to have assumed he was gay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► and you know just never said anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► and you know because it's not you know it's not other people's place to say really you know like if you didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► be out you know that's that's his choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► and it's really it's it's sad really in our society it's sad that this matters but the fact is it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► but it's sad that this is major news. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► Ideally you know your sexual orientation you know the sexual intuition of the C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► Of a big company shouldn't matter any more than like you know how they like their steak cooked like who cares like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► that's not relevant to his job at all that is not relevant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► Too that his public persona you know liked the role he used to play in public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► and what the public needs to know about him his sexual orientation is not at all relevant but the fact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► and he writes this in the essay that the fact is it does still matter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► Because society as a whole is still nowhere near even even mainstream let alone full acceptance of homosexuality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► and various other you know States and identities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► and not to mention there's a gender identity because so many many things were still a behind on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► So the fact is it is still very significant that he is coming out in public because that is that is still a risk in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► lot to a lot of people and that is still significant and I tell you I wish I wish he didn't have to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► but I see why he wanted to do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► Yeah that's that this type of issue you know people who make sort of the comment that like like you just said oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► but that doesn't that shouldn't matter it's irrelevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► and the fact that he's writing an article about it to declare this is just such be ask is Why is he emphasizing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► really not important like it should just be if you just be you know sort of unspoken is no need you need you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► to throw this in my face you know or just saying like by by talking about it and by emphasizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► and you're actually making the issue worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► and really we should just all be equal in something like this is very similar to the sexism issue in that events like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► If you view it in isolation as a by saying this you're drawing attention to the issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► and you're just making it so you're never going to be said. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► You keep trying to show yourself as being different and so on it's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► but like viewing anything like that during you know any event or any action in isolation and then trying to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4190">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► Apply logic to him saying therefore this you know this is a logical to be doing this are you sure the making sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► because it's happening in the context of a world where we know that there is prejudice against gay people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► There are laws on the books that are you know that you can be fired for saying you're gay likes that like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► that's the word of this is taking place in it which is why you know why isn't there a this is why I have to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► because it's the context of the world that I live in that I have to do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► Nobody is writing an article that a one page article on Business Week is getting this kind of coverage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► and saying I had to come out and tell you now that actually I am married. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► We know how the context is that we do not live in a society where being married is something that can get you fired. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► Something that can make people hurt is against you you know there are not huge groups of people who are just against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► married people that we could live that society does not as arbitrary as you know trying to get a job as a married woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► who's thirty I didn't say women that's for the the woman issue like the women issue the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► when people say like anything that happens that you know have a sexism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► and also I call that as a magnet as ball blood like it's happening and racism exactly the same in isolation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► You're crazy you know sort of pseudo rationalist logic works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► but this event this person this action this thing is happening in the context of a society where you know where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► country the step slavery where there's massive institutional racism where millennia of oppression of women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► and that is the context in which this action taking place and you have to view the things in context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► and I think people have a reasonable time with this because people understand for the most part of this point I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► the context of you know being gay like they know gay people have been you know oppressed and discriminated against. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► We know we're in the active process of trying to get our laws straight on this with marriage equality right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► You know just in the same way in the civil rights movement like I could see that this was bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► and now it's getting better when this transition that the problem is when you get it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► It's your wages or you think that has already come and gone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► It's not a problem anymore like racism or you think it's never been a problem like sexism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► or like us just the way things are you can remember no one is alive who is around you know for women who were getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► suffrage anyway. I am also sad mostly sad that he felt like he had to keep this part of them hidden for so long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► Not that I thought that is relevant to his job in any way other than making him empathetic to other people who are also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► marginalized but there is just can you imagine being him being like it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► when Steve Jobs dog just a tremendously powerful person in a successful company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► and yet feeling like you had to not so much keep it secret secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► but basically this is part of me that I know I can't I can't talk about because there may be damaging consequences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► damaging consequences for the company that I work for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► For my career for you know for like imagine if you had come out as soon as he was named C.E.O. or Just before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► Like how that would you know that they could mess up our transition you know it's like it's such a shame that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► the case is that that's the world that we live in that this had to be a carefully controlled thing where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► and by the way speaking of carefully controlled in typical Apple fashion I think you did an amazing job in terms of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► letting anyone else dictate the story not sort of getting outed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► or pressured into answering questions about his private life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► or anything like that even though this is sort of been a persistent sort of you know rumor for a long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► Press was mostly good about squashing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► and saying it's not this is not something that you should be discussing the tech press because it's not a tech issue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► He came out on his own terms the way he wanted to and in a way that shows why he's such a great Apple C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► Because like he controlled the messaging and and just the timing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► and everything to be like you know after after the transition from Steve Jobs after the Apple Watch announcement didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► know and asking if. Apple can ever make another great product and it's just you know I have a lot of feelings about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► I'm excited that he's out I'm happy that he is providing an example you know to more marginalized people to say you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► be whatever you want to be in life there are there is no glass ceiling that should be preventing you from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► and becoming you know whatever you want to be first on all the way there are like the same way Barack Obama's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► kids growing up in a world where there is a president who looks like them a long way to go on all fronts in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► things. No gay presidents no woman president no atheist presidents or trolling never happened in any of our lifetimes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► But you know every little bit helps right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► Oh yeah I mean like that's like you know before he came out it was like he was in a position of power you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► wasn't he wasn't not coming out publicly because he was afraid if I do I always assumed that he was not coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► publicly because he didn't think that should be relevant to his job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► and so he was choosing you know that from the position of power from the position of being in control. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► But but but also because he knew this is the thing that did it that some people don't like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► Again he wasn't saying he's going to come out I'm going to come out as a left handed nobody cares like literally nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► cares a left handed but he knows that there are people who do care that he's gay which is terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► but he that is the context in which that is it is being made and you can keep saying like oh it's about my privacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► and it's like not coming out to say you have bad vision like no one knows you wear glasses or contacts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► and secondly a health matter is like private information available to question do you wear glasses. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► That's private information sorry warm reveal that people think you are crazy because there is no context in which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► wearing glasses is mingled anybody like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► when people throw those issues of like welts privative ration should not to say they were your health information like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► your eyesight is more private than your sexual orientation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► The only reason we think sexual orientation is privatised so many people in institutions the laws that are prejudiced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4553">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► But that is that is the maddening thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► and that's why I think you can't an ever hear of people making those comparisons in the direction of like context it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► You know you can look at this from from the way of like you know well what you said in a more powerful message never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► addressing this issue in public and just being who he was and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4577">TS</a>]
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01:18:37 ◼ ► It's not going to appears that this is some kind of political move some kind of like you know move for Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4717">TS</a>]
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01:18:47 ◼ ► Moves like this it just seems over and over again man Tim Cook is so fricken good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4727">TS</a>]
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01:19:15 ◼ ► No question I'm still sore about the sixteen sixty four storage but that's fair. Yeah that's fair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4755">TS</a>]
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01:19:25 ◼ ► or The lands on him because he had because they're grown so there's you know there's still room for improvement. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4765">TS</a>]
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01:19:40 ◼ ► and Tim Cook I can only speculate at this point like Well Apple did a thing I don't like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4780">TS</a>]
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01:21:09 ◼ ► products every week but you have to get things like that to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4869">TS</a>]
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01:21:47 ◼ ► Thanks Bloodsworth responses this week Hava Bachleda Lynda dot com and we will see you next week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4907">TS</a>]
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01:22:06 ◼ ► John thank you for giving me as I said to that list and it will save Microsoft banned for next week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/4926">TS</a>]
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01:24:53 ◼ ► going to get the five K. Back I'm going to cruise with us for another year with the program. See what happens. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5093">TS</a>]
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01:27:22 ◼ ► How many pictures I've taken of Declan and to be fair I'm shooting in RAW and j peg which is also probably silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5242">TS</a>]
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01:27:58 ◼ ► so I am so screwed. There the photographer's pictures were smaller each. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► Yeah that's true but I'm so stressed about my wedding photographer took pictures on film. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5282">TS</a>]
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01:28:19 ◼ ► That's another are my photo library. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5299">TS</a>]
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01:28:51 ◼ ► Prefer wedding photos like high quality thought of the even though this film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5331">TS</a>]
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01:29:05 ◼ ► Tapes that we'd like to get transferred but like I'm not crazy but it is like you know milling them off to somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5345">TS</a>]
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01:29:15 ◼ ► and percent of all individually. So Season titles so I had to give you a photographic Tip two tips. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► Number one the secret to good photography is lots of babytalk. Yeah well still won't get there. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► Even if you will you will need to take a lot of pictures to get one great one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► and that's fine that's what every photographer does that you don't talk about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5377">TS</a>]
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01:29:44 ◼ ► Capturing motion while Declan is not doing a lot of motion. Yeah because kids move very very quickly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5384">TS</a>]
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01:30:12 ◼ ► more than the body which for someone who's never had a fancy camera that's like Are you kidding me I am spending more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► on a couple pieces of glass than I am the actual camera itself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► Anyway the one of the reasons was because it focuses silly quickly although I haven't really gotten a grip as a grasp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► of how to do to how to do shutter priority on the camera. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► I need to work on that so I crank the shutter speed way the hell up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► or at least I think I do I'm not a very good photographer obviously but the other reason I wanted to get the lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► and we ended up getting and I could tell you what it is but I forget I just know what it goes really really low F. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► Stop. It's like one point four one point you discovered blur. Oh God Boca or whatever it's called be OK each. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► It's my favorite thing in the world. We're going to have everybody telling us how to pronounce. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5456">TS</a>]
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01:31:10 ◼ ► and nobody cares how to pronounce it don't even bother emailing us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► but yeah that that thing my favorite thing in the world. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► or feeling like the market was saying practice figures you know like infants are terrible little pink worms started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► learn to write like they don't like they don't do anything exciting if they do anything that looks cute it's accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► like it's it's gas it's whatever right you what you're gearing up for is honing your skills for when they turn two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► or three and start doing the super cute stuff like intentionally and by then you'll be an old pro at it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► So this is all like a lot of this like batting practice like figure out this figure out your camera figure out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► toggery figure out the best places in your house to take pictures in terms of natural lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► and everything like that and you have plenty of practice and you get one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► or two good shots where the good looks like he's smiling or making a funny face or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5516">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► Looks like a movie star in the thirty's or whatever. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► Generally speaking if you ever use the flash you're probably doing it wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► And yes if you can the more light you can get the better as long as it doesn't come from a flash that's on the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5527">TS</a>]
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01:32:20 ◼ ► Generally speaking now that you're now do you have a wide aperture lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► and you're going to be obsessive player for a while keep in mind that while blurred background does look good in most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► cases your subjection always be completely in focus for the most part I mean yes this is a rule for divers can break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► ones that break the rules but the most common thing that I see and I went through this phase briefly in their noses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► and yeah OK I don't like F. One point for a new prime lens and you have like a centimeter of depth in focus. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► Yeah literally at like just the nose and the rest of the face or just their eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► and their nose a blurry like that looks really annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5576">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► and like the blurriness of the back on the look cool temporarily until you realize oh I can actually see any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► subject except for this one centimeter slice of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► So the mention of like Baron is behind holding the baby OK we're out sorry you're outside my one inch thick you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► Yeah and I think that I'm I am doing that I am guilty of that for sure and some of that is because I really want that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► OK OK folk whatever they pronounce Hava Either way I got to get better about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► but it it's it is really nice to have an actual camera rather than the i Phone as much as I do love the i Phone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► pictures and I got to tell you I am not used to having any sort of physical shutter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► and it is really damn satisfying having that that shutter that machinery move about in your hand as you're clicking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► shutter button whatever the shutter button. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► It's deceivingly satisfying for someone who grew up with physical cameras you know with film cameras. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► Yet my show Micro Four Thirds does it have a viewfinder in a mirror. There's no there's no marriage. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► Mero us so he's not he's not here in America classier years here in the shutter correct. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► OK that's kind of like Marco's car right. Just play the shutter sound for a lot you'll turn that off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► That's that's like the first thing I leave it on because I knew I want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► when the shots go off like I may be again an old person I need to hear that sound right I was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► I just feel like I don't it's like the people I guess is the same as Believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► or not like you go Don I don't understand people who do but for cameras. I mean I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► Same thing I have an established history of cameras that make a noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► when you press a button like they have an established history of of keyboards but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► when the keyboards on the screen it's not close enough whereas the camera's I held that made that noise back in the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► felt like these cameras like they were physical things this is not a camera on a screen like I would never like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► shutter sound on my you know the I.O.'s camera I could do without that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► but I can't believe this is this is a shocking revelation that you leave on an artificial shutter sound effect on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► eye camera that I would never have guessed that I mean doesn't have to be a shutter senators need. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► I think I just need to have something especially as my cameras like have cheap cameras so the slow like it doesn't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► It's not ready to take a picture immediately the flash takes a long time to recharge even without the flash takes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► long time for the image processor to be right like it's not it's not a pro camera I don't have like real cameras so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► need that little clicking as to know when the picture run off and you know when I can take the next one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► So it so what do you what do you have. Now I thought you had like I would we had we had we had a Canon five D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► Mark to from my brother's wedding like he borrowed it from him part of my day not only and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► and I had that for like a couple days surrounding his wedding to take pictures with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► and I shouldn't have done that because it lets you know what a real cameras like you know I you know but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5754">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► We got our first digital camera got argot and I we did have point shoots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► and I'm one of the super zooms which is why I stick to it is kind of like you know a really big zoom lens that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► interchangeable on a camera with a sensor that's not really that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► but you can do you know I want to go to the beach the ocean pictures where the kids are in the waves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► and I'm standing up to my waist in the water I can sell you a picture of them when they're out farther. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► If you're twelve feet tall so super zooms are very versatile like they're not they're not going to take really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► pictures but they are very versatile for situations where you can zoom with your feet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► But just recently with kids I can snag my kid from across the auditorium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► when it's up on stage you know doing something or across a field or at family events forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► and sitting around in the backyard I can grab a closeup of someone who is on the other side of the yard for me it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► really good because it's bright sunlight because the camera you know cameras and the like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► So that's what I've been sticking with the super isms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► and super zooms are getting almost kind of respectable not still not going into like an interchange of a lens camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5813">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► but the recent super zooms especially the new signing on I forgot the model number for it have somewhat decent sensors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► sort of on the level of the Micro Four Thirds things or sometimes even better attached to a non changeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► and that happens that is actually OK actually pretty good you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► So it has served me well well enough anyway especially with a doom's like if you want to see a good childhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► photography follow the meridians and know how to pronounce us man you know enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► and who knows they have about the cute kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► and they take a pose to really cute pictures they have they have a new baby as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► and they they demonstrate how to take good pictures of a baby who is otherwise not very interesting because you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► is sort of a little their baby I think is like three months old now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► and now we start making real faces here the character don't look at her. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5873">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► I'm his baby you know there's a cute baby entire planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► and it's unclear yet that baby's ridiculous your baby like why don't you look like a baby sandwich kills us every time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► Unbelievable as little Pumpkinhead I can't stand it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► We told you every word you both agree this is like the cutest baby in the world. Totally agree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► Oh it's so true it is absolutely true but that you can tell from the sound of your voice that you're just dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► and in the best possible way his adorable he hurts me when I look at him like stoppings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► and then you get the little videos where it is a dancing and everything is adorable. We do titles before I die. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► So cute I don't want to go pass out by pass out I mean get woken up by my screaming baby as soon as I shut my eyes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► He's so cute. It's worth it. I'm not complaining. Babies aren't that cute baby grand I.Q. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► Until they you know they're like oh you know first I deferred months they're just now I'm my first baby was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5933">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► terrible you're still not sound like you have all external sentence reference for his yellow pre-loaded for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► We call our first baby scream a pillar. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► Nope no Powell Anyway if you Google first and sunscreen a pill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► or if it's hard to find since his video clips I wish there was like a clearinghouse for them but anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► Yeah I'm going to tell her it was fitting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► Did you like The Simpsons Movie is right I don't remember but I thought I was OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► and I was not going to actually watch the Simpsons the movie wasn't better than you know a good episode was the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► that was the movie the one pinchy No that was an epic and I was a good one though. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► I've called I Want a lot and she is a good when I write I'm really going to bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► and I go to bed I mean staying up all night so you guys as you wake up all refresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► and happy tomorrow morning think of me I can't even say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► but I actually like a played like you can because we've been there and done that not only that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► but I'm so excited to like not sleep I will take this problem over any of the problems we are running into for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/5992">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► Other thing to carry you over like you tried so hard to have this baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► and that will help Harry over the other thing is you but you can look forward to is like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► There will come a point I mean you're already kind of it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► but I'd like Eventually you will back to work you know if you become more retain and remember like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► when my first child was like two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► or whatever I would just be so excited to come home because I knew that's where my children were like coming home like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► Christmas every time you get there and the kids would be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► or the one kid would be there was seriously it was like I would realize that I was at work I was excited to go home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR_2ajs/6027">TS</a>]