The Talk Show

172: ‘Holiday Party’, With Special Guest Merlin Mann

 

  and a heck of a day I had a very [TS]

  interesting 30 hours yesterday morning [TS]

  we woke up early and you had jury duty [TS]

  at superior court [TS]

  wow yeah yeah I'm on voting day I only [TS]

  found out finally yesterday that i'm [TS]

  registered under two addresses and [TS]

  basically that's why I get called [TS]

  constantly and i'm gerry crack i always [TS]

  get called i always get picked and no [TS]

  matter what i say they're like ahead [TS]

  it's great we could really use you so [TS]

  and it in this case Superior Court oh my [TS]

  god what's going to be long story short [TS]

  we get up early [TS]

  three of us go to the polling station my [TS]

  daughter drops in the ballot Hillary [TS]

  Clinton I go to jury duty i narrowly [TS]

  narrowly avoid a multi-month attempted [TS]

  murder a jury duty junk John Gruber I'm [TS]

  literally rocking in my seat and making [TS]

  this noise who I i won't drag this out [TS]

  but basically i pleaded hardship even [TS]

  though they said they're probably not [TS]

  gonna let us off for that is Stanley got [TS]

  deferred I walk up six street when he [TS]

  was 16 I am I I you know what it I am [TS]

  oddly familiar with six street and film [TS]

  you don't you don't c 63 you don't [TS]

  forget six-string okay lock up 63 and it [TS]

  is it's it's like godspeed you black [TS]

  emperor song it's just a lot of people [TS]

  with stores and amputations I saw [TS]

  sobbing man pooping on the street [TS]

  there's a lot of screaming and dogs and [TS]

  it's basically it's like the end of the [TS]

  world and that was my morning up to [TS]

  about 11 30 so then I just went home and [TS]

  started rocking at home I couldn't even [TS]

  play threes [TS]

  I'm just rockin point who because I'm [TS]

  already i'm home i'm sorry monopolizing [TS]

  your show but I've been them I don't [TS]

  make a big deal about it because I think [TS]

  it's unseemly it was a bad start it was [TS]

  a bad start to a bad day and I hope that [TS]

  it would those would all be good good [TS]

  portents that but that was my morning [TS]

  and then [TS]

  yeah there would how you feel you have a [TS]

  good day [TS]

  no there's nothing I think you and I owe [TS]

  it to the world we owe it to America [TS]

  we're gonna we're going to do this show [TS]

  and we're going to do a show for [TS]

  everybody okay you don't want to be an [TS]

  apple fan [TS]

  are you with me so far I'm so with you [TS]

  you give you can get notes [TS]

  we're gonna get notes because we're [TS]

  gonna miss some people [TS]

  well we're trying to scoop up everybody [TS]

  we're trying to work we're where we I [TS]

  don't know we've got the scoop [TS]

  we're coming in for everybody [TS]

  are you having a holiday party there at [TS]

  all haha holiday party [TS]

  Merlin we're coming in where we're [TS]

  coming in with the scoop for coming in [TS]

  for everybody [TS]

  yeah I don't try to pick everybody up [TS]

  yeah okay and we're gonna miss some [TS]

  people there's no doubt about it there's [TS]

  no way maybe you can get every person [TS]

  that you for annular right and I we're [TS]

  gonna miss some people yeah this is an [TS]

  epidemic diet in my opinion this is the [TS]

  most special episode of this podcast [TS]

  I've ever recorded [TS]

  I've recorded many Star Wars that was [TS]

  your reason that still your record [TS]

  holder yeah oh of course its star wars [TS]

  episodes are around 8 episode 8 hours [TS]

  long [TS]

  ok and you know mean we've had [TS]

  I mean we've been Harrison Ford on we [TS]

  value our camel on he seems a lot nicer [TS]

  than I expected [TS]

  Carrie Fisher I mean some very special [TS]

  guests [TS]

  yeah for those episodes nothing is going [TS]

  to compare to this episode of the show [TS]

  and out i will tell you sure no no [TS]

  pressure well there was only 13 we're [TS]

  trying to scoop up everybody which we're [TS]

  gonna miss some people [TS]

  well I will tell you this i am i'm going [TS]

  to be honest open kimono I'm opening the [TS]

  kimono here [TS]

  I'm not happy with the election results [TS]

  I think I honestly fear for the state of [TS]

  Western democracy [TS]

  yeah I absolutely positively had too [TS]

  much to drink last night huh [TS]

  and when I woke up this morning I [TS]

  thought there's only one person i can [TS]

  ask to be on my show today and it's [TS]

  Merlin net below and i will say this you [TS]

  know I reached out to you for this very [TS]

  special emergency pacific right because [TS]

  I'll tell you what I i am in general I [TS]

  try I try to go once a week and once we [TS]

  would have put me like a couple of days [TS]

  before the election and a couple of days [TS]

  ago I was too pre-election obsessed and [TS]

  I thought nobody wants to hear be able [TS]

  to create pre-election obsessed John [TS]

  Gruber I talk about the keyboard on the [TS]

  new macbook pro right i mean who the [TS]

  fuck cares about the goddamn key travel [TS]

  on the macbook pro two or three days [TS]

  before the end of Western civilization [TS]

  and so I thought I can't do it I [TS]

  probably should have I should have just [TS]

  done like a regular show just called [TS]

  multiple again you know I mean have you [TS]

  know could you also you as a person you [TS]

  enjoy you enjoy winning franchise with a [TS]

  story [TS]

  oh I do I and one thing I've learned [TS]

  from you and share with a lot of people [TS]

  is that distinction you made one time I [TS]

  think on this program talking about how [TS]

  there's numbers people in in baseball [TS]

  and there's story people have you know [TS]

  with regard to fans and I still actually [TS]

  I still think about that a lot and it [TS]

  did have an effect on how I think about [TS]

  sports as a thing but i'm not trying to [TS]

  take the piss I mean you you like you [TS]

  know you like the like the Yankees you [TS]

  like with Cowboys right yeah you like [TS]

  you like these teams with a storied past [TS]

  who are going to win so it makes sense [TS]

  for you to wait until the inevitable win [TS]

  that to be able to talk about it in a [TS]

  way that's I don't know for celebratory [TS]

  I mean why be jittery on air because it [TS]

  all seemed like it was going in the [TS]

  right direction [TS]

  mostly mostly I mean this is that mean I [TS]

  don't even know where to begin [TS]

  I know I I tell you this I we got last [TS]

  night and I early on early on i started [TS]

  tweeting less because you know what I [TS]

  started thinking like you know what i [TS]

  like to do and I think people who you [TS]

  know certainly people who listen to the [TS]

  show but people follow me on twitter [TS]

  certainly know like to tweet during [TS]

  sporting events I care about and it is a [TS]

  similar feeling in my stomach when [TS]

  there's like a sporting event I care [TS]

  about and and election I care about but [TS]

  then there's the difference and the [TS]

  difference is that sports don't mean [TS]

  anything that and that's kind of the fun [TS]

  part about sports and I know that [TS]

  there's everything everything that [TS]

  everything that's wonderful about sports [TS]

  is what the fan brings to it right you [TS]

  can choose to bring all different kinds [TS]

  of history and expectations and import [TS]

  but like you you get to pick what you're [TS]

  going to be very emotional about and you [TS]

  get the kind of on some rational level [TS]

  you get to decide why those steaks are [TS]

  important right like if six months ago [TS]

  you you something happened and and you [TS]

  had a terrible head injury and you went [TS]

  into a coma but you're a terrific [TS]

  baseball fan and you don't wake up until [TS]

  like the middle of next year and AH you [TS]

  wake up and you're like who won the [TS]

  world series and somebody tells you well [TS]

  it was the Cubs the the the state of the [TS]

  world outside the word see you BS Cubs [TS]

  it is actually not any different [TS]

  right and if they said oh my god it was [TS]

  the Cleveland Indians or almost on me [TS]

  not rightfully hear this but a lot of [TS]

  people say that was probably one of the [TS]

  definitely better world series games [TS]

  with some people put that in like the [TS]

  top 50 ya know there's the people who [TS]

  would put in your top five games [TS]

  I mean it was an amazing game but the [TS]

  truth of the matter is that outside of [TS]

  the baseball park it it doesn't really [TS]

  matter and that is so I i do i woke up [TS]

  yesterday and I thought you know what [TS]

  this feels like when the Yankees are in [TS]

  the World Series [TS]

  I feel like I've got that feeling i care [TS]

  i can't sleep I'm jittery except i know [TS]

  that this time it cares and it in one [TS]

  regard it makes me say this is why [TS]

  sports are great and in the other regard [TS]

  it makes me say this is why a lot of [TS]

  smart people don't give two craps about [TS]

  sports because sports are actually [TS]

  nonsense and I I kind of feel like this [TS]

  election brings out and focus [TS]

  yeah there's i mean i-i don't like [TS]

  getting involved in a lot of political I [TS]

  don't like talking about politics and [TS]

  public i have had my feelings about all [TS]

  kinds of stuff in life and who knows [TS]

  maybe it's time for me to talk more [TS]

  about it but I I feel like generally [TS]

  speaking the cost-benefit analysis on [TS]

  having a strong public opinion that's [TS]

  unambiguous and you argue about it a lot [TS]

  and you encourage people just to you [TS]

  know pick or continue fights with you [TS]

  that's just that's not my personality [TS]

  it's not how I want to live it's not who [TS]

  I want to be but that doesn't mean they [TS]

  don't have those strong opinions so I'm [TS]

  my cards on the table and I'm that guy [TS]

  I'm that guy that used to say get rid of [TS]

  all your news tabs like stop following [TS]

  stuff the time attention right but i [TS]

  have started listening to probably half [TS]

  a dozen podcast about politics this [TS]

  election year [TS]

  some of which come out every day or [TS]

  twice or three times a week I've been in [TS]

  utterly steeped in that but at [TS]

  everything and almost every step of the [TS]

  way even even when things are not [TS]

  looking great for the Democratic [TS]

  candidate there is still this part of me [TS]

  that said this is I think I understand [TS]

  enough about the bones of this country [TS]

  to know how this will end up and on top [TS]

  of that I see enough stuff from [TS]

  different sources of data that tells me [TS]

  it'll turn out okay is this gonna be the [TS]

  best selection ever know but like I [TS]

  swear to Christ like even up until [TS]

  yesterday that confidence in American [TS]

  the American bones is I think i mighta [TS]

  got it wrong and so that's a cavity when [TS]

  we were texting this morning that's kind [TS]

  of where I am I'm not angry at I'm not [TS]

  to finger pointing [TS]

  I'm not even to abject terror yet i'm [TS]

  still stuck at sitting there in my [TS]

  living room with my family last line my [TS]

  daughter was literally under a blanket [TS]

  she put your plugs in and went under a [TS]

  blanket to read wimpy kid because she [TS]

  couldn't take it anymore [TS]

  yeah and I love is a good books over [TS]

  there better than you think but watching [TS]

  watching watching that little drip drip [TS]

  drip and then seeing a state flip to [TS]

  read it first when we walked up a [TS]

  picture but school I could do I said hey [TS]

  look you know there's he's got three on [TS]

  the board already don't worry people [TS]

  knew he was going to get those those are [TS]

  not giant electoral States we talked she [TS]

  knows about this from school but anyway [TS]

  I don't mean to prattle on but like I'm [TS]

  here today because I'm not even to where [TS]

  i know i'm going to end up i'm still I'm [TS]

  just stunned by how wrong I was and how [TS]

  poorly i saw and i think i'm going to be [TS]

  processing that for at least a few days [TS]

  is just the the engine of the boards [TS]

  like shocked and surprised it sounds [TS]

  silly now I just doesn't listen to [TS]

  keeping a 1600 which is up so I like a [TS]

  lot and they're just they're just like [TS]

  we got every single bit of this wrong [TS]

  and we feel bad that we told you not to [TS]

  wet the bed and we you know it's that [TS]

  now I'm just didn't and [TS]

  babbling but i'm just i'm sitting here [TS]

  and I'm just I'm just I'm stunned with [TS]

  how much i got wrong I'll eventually try [TS]

  to figure out what I got wrong but at [TS]

  this point it's just an unconscionably [TS]

  large amount of assumptions that I had a [TS]

  fairly decent level of confidence and [TS]

  that there is that I'm going to have to [TS]

  just rethink the whole bunch of things [TS]

  that make me very uncomfortable [TS]

  I you know and and I is it not for like [TS]

  it but let's make sure everybody feels [TS]

  included sake it but for hey everybody [TS]

  is sick of the divisive stuff is why i [TS]

  would love and I think you agree that [TS]

  this episode of the show should not be [TS]

  like hey Hilary should have one Donald [TS]

  Trump is an asshole I I don't want to [TS]

  divide people because I mean it's [TS]

  everybody's had enough of that and the [TS]

  time for that not not least because [TS]

  Democrats are the second the second most [TS]

  surprise party today right [TS]

  i agree i really i really believe I [TS]

  think so too [TS]

  right i don't think they this is i don't [TS]

  think most people in their hearts really [TS]

  believe this will go this i do i I agree [TS]

  and I honestly think if we want to just [TS]

  for a moment get a little political that [TS]

  done deal but seriously yet Donald [TS]

  Trump's win is not a Republican when [TS]

  it's a trump win it what what he is and [TS]

  what he represents and what drove his [TS]

  victory has almost nothing to do with [TS]

  the Republican Party I but I i would [TS]

  like for this episode of the show to be [TS]

  for everybody and I will just tell you [TS]

  that I my son who is not i wouldn't [TS]

  think is political because he's he's 12 [TS]

  years old [TS]

  you know i mean it's it's he's way too [TS]

  young to be political [TS]

  before we send him to bed last night [TS]

  we're watching the results it they were [TS]

  not you know they were obviously heading [TS]

  towards where we are and he said that [TS]

  his stomach felt bad and I i mean it it [TS]

  killed me because what am I going to say [TS]

  to one you know I mean it's like yeah [TS]

  okay i mean i think i think maybe less [TS]

  wise to get older kids kids pick up a [TS]

  lot from the people around them [TS]

  particularly parents doesn't mean [TS]

  they're gonna listen to put on their [TS]

  shoes but they can read a lot of the [TS]

  emotional temperature and very much [TS]

  pressure in the room and I think and [TS]

  we've talked a lot about the selection [TS]

  at home a lot a lot a lot and but i [TS]

  think the difference here is it it's not [TS]

  that my team didn't win [TS]

  it's that maybe I just don't understand [TS]

  baseball anymore right and right that's [TS]

  that's a very different kind of thing to [TS]

  process and I think that's apart from [TS]

  the pack 5 were both crying a little bit [TS]

  which is never fun to do in front of [TS]

  your kid it's um I think there was [TS]

  definitely a sense that this was [TS]

  something very much different and it's [TS]

  not actually SAT and watched a bunch of [TS]

  presidential elections but it felt like [TS]

  the stakes were higher than we had any [TS]

  idea [TS]

  yeah that is that does that and then God [TS]

  would want to name you say today about [TS]

  me [TS]

  could you share what happened at his [TS]

  school well I mean one thing was that we [TS]

  got a letter from the principal of the [TS]

  school they have the school wherever [TS]

  they call the guy but I mean and they [TS]

  suit you know we got like an actual [TS]

  email that said like the rhetoric of the [TS]

  the guy who won the presidential [TS]

  election is still no longer accepted at [TS]

  our school which is like when did you [TS]

  get the creepy coil letter in October [TS]

  yes we got that we have two people on [TS]

  letter and I remember thinking oh my god [TS]

  I know how busy are principal is and i [TS]

  can't believe that she had to take any [TS]

  amount of time from her day to [TS]

  acknowledge that there was such a thing [TS]

  as creepy clowns and then to feel the [TS]

  need or the maybe the mandate maybe came [TS]

  down from you have the unified school [TS]

  district but she there was something she [TS]

  had to say [TS]

  so a couple of things i'm not going to [TS]

  do today because I need to email [TS]

  everybody about creepy clowns and you're [TS]

  like wow thats you know just FYI for my [TS]

  purposes you don't need to keep on the [TS]

  creepy clown Pete I I trust you down the [TS]

  strength to just take care of that but [TS]

  that's something that the that your kids [TS]

  principal felting you to do on that note [TS]

  on that note you guys no fracture [TS]

  let me take a break and tell you about [TS]

  our first friend and we're gonna laugh [TS]

  all laugh because you're gonna have a [TS]

  holiday party i feel like i should have [TS]

  one too [TS]

  that's just that's just one you just [TS]

  need me to show my kids school in two [TS]

  hours just a little bit drunk back that [TS]

  everything's gonna be fine [TS]

  that is just sleepy today today's host a [TS]

  talk show this Harry Carey hey hey hey [TS]

  now seriously I mean we're laughing [TS]

  because we're crying but I want to tell [TS]

  you about art [TS]

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  they've just launched [TS]

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  to sort of take the lead foot off the [TS]

  gas pedal a little possum that's [TS]

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  was i got a catalog [TS]

  I don't even know what I just bought [TS]

  that put me on the list but it came [TS]

  addressed to me i got a catalog for a [TS]

  Radio Flyer now you know radio flyer [TS]

  right I got the same thing that the with [TS]

  the test line with the Tesla yeah what [TS]

  are we on how do we get this [TS]

  I you know what me maybe it's the show I [TS]

  don't know they send this end it all [TS]

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  we've got to move with their with a [TS]

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  like riding in a Tesla like a fake Tesla [TS]

  radio flyer uh you know o.o wagon kids [TS]

  love Tesla's well I and I thought about [TS]

  taking a picture of it and making a joke [TS]

  i couldn't make a joke i couldn't figure [TS]

  out the joke because it's like what you [TS]

  got a joke about like zero emissions [TS]

  it's like a self-driving yeah it's like [TS]

  a zero-emissions it's not a oh it's not [TS]

  actually a joke it's like that's [TS]

  actually kinda cool [TS]

  yeah I couldn't figure out joke we get a [TS]

  lot of catalogs John we get a lot of [TS]

  political things we had we have because [TS]

  i'm checking out a hundred and [TS]

  seventy-five ballot initiatives God on [TS]

  the John the board of elections had to [TS]

  provide guidance on how to fold your [TS]

  ballot to put in the envelope so that [TS]

  you didn't end up spending like eleven [TS]

  dollars on postage they had guidance on [TS]

  I think they have a QuickTime movies [TS]

  what crazy days we had to we had to we [TS]

  don't call ballot initiatives here in [TS]

  Pennsylvania we call them what I forget [TS]

  what we call them but it's not like [TS]

  California but we had two things to vote [TS]

  on that were sort of the the sort of [TS]

  thing that I don't think you should be [TS]

  deciding by direct democracy i think [TS]

  that this is exactly why we have right a [TS]

  legislature so one of them was should we [TS]

  raise in Pennsylvania like many states a [TS]

  surprising number of states if if you [TS]

  just google it if you're a state judge [TS]

  if you're you know you when you when you [TS]

  reach the age of 70 it's a mandatory [TS]

  retirement maracas and and that's that's [TS]

  probably it's probably pretty old law [TS]

  well I'll time Wendy and seventy was [TS]

  kind of a big deal [TS]

  I seems like a non on the ballot was a [TS]

  an initiative I don't know what you call [TS]

  it but whatever they call it here in PA [TS]

  to raise the AIDS 275 and and we got and [TS]

  I said that's so weirdly just slightly [TS]

  less carpetright like it's not to get [TS]

  rid of it i think you have any 600k [TS]

  that'll fix it done [TS]

  it's exactly what i thought what I saw [TS]

  it was like you know you want to get rid [TS]

  of this age thing [TS]

  yes or no I can kind of see that but [TS]

  like 70 to 75 it's like what [TS]

  where do these numbers come from but we [TS]

  got we got a thing because we're [TS]

  registered we happen to be registered [TS]

  Democrat I don't think people are [TS]

  surprised to hear me say that huh [TS]

  interesting but we got something from [TS]

  our local Democratic word with a a [TS]

  suggested ballot like here's how we [TS]

  think you should vote you know here's [TS]

  everything that up you know here's who [TS]

  you should vote for and you know i mean [TS]

  this is like President you know you [TS]

  should vote for Hillary Clinton you know [TS]

  senator Katie McGinty that's you know [TS]

  our senator who's running against this [TS]

  dipshit that bad to me I and and so on [TS]

  as it goes down the ballot but then it [TS]

  gets down to these ballot initiatives we [TS]

  only had two and and on the one that [TS]

  said you know she raised the mandatory [TS]

  retirement age for judges from 70 to 75 [TS]

  it said vote no in other words don't [TS]

  raise the retirement age it's that vote [TS]

  no [TS]

  oh that confusing language ah it's [TS]

  already hard enough to get rid of bad [TS]

  judges that's good said what I swear to [TS]

  God murder mami get up it doesn't [TS]

  someone have to approve these things [TS]

  that you just get to like paste it up [TS]

  and it just goes in whatever you have to [TS]

  say well the next best thing was that [TS]

  the the next question was should the [TS]

  city philadelphia rays 485 million [TS]

  dollars in debt to finance [TS]

  infrastructure [TS]

  government and the answer on on what [TS]

  how should you vote it was it was blank [TS]

  units it was born forgot to fill it in [TS]

  I forgot to forget about it [TS]

  highways if a dicks oh gosh we had a lot [TS]

  should people be allowed to sleep in [TS]

  tents on the sidewalk [TS]

  uh-uh i would vote no I Woodrow no i [TS]

  don't hear it's very controversial Dave [TS]

  don't have anywhere else to sleep well [TS]

  done to division street and it's okay [TS]

  that's like one long KOAT under highway [TS]

  you gotta you got the old the grocery [TS]

  tax postponed but i think they should do [TS]

  here's what I think they should do you [TS]

  know and we're trying to adjust to be [TS]

  clear we're trying to scoop everybody in [TS]

  here we're going to meet a few people [TS]

  but I think it's really important that [TS]

  we try to really find some answers so [TS]

  yeah i'm i'm giving you an honest answer [TS]

  I really honestly think I think they [TS]

  should drive buses special buses around [TS]

  city and you find anybody sleeping on [TS]

  the sidewalk in the tent is the scoop [TS]

  them up in the bus and and where they go [TS]

  where they go after that but unless they [TS]

  love to get off [TS]

  I think you got off wherever they want [TS]

  to do what we see in the next 40 years [TS]

  because whenever they wake up they can [TS]

  get off if they want and it's gonna be [TS]

  tremendous they can get off wherever [TS]

  they want [TS]

  ok but at ok ok so the bus comes along [TS]

  these ideas group of the 10 people do [TS]

  and I this is and and i'll tell you what [TS]

  this is an opinion that i would not have [TS]

  had if I haven't sped a lot of time in [TS]

  downtown San Francisco over the last 10 [TS]

  years [TS]

  yeah but i'll just tell you that there [TS]

  are people sleeping on the sidewalks in [TS]

  San Francisco [TS]

  whoo-hoo make the city and unpleasant [TS]

  place to be there are people living on [TS]

  this it's important these are not people [TS]

  who take a nap as people who don't have [TS]

  anywhere else to go [TS]

  yeah and I am I you know where mom we're [TS]

  trying to have fun [TS]

  I'm not trying to make light of ya of of [TS]

  a desperate situation but but but people [TS]

  already right on the public transit you [TS]

  know you ready [TS]

  public transit you gotta you gotta have [TS]

  a fairly comfortable place to be [TS]

  yeah but I you know most of you know [TS]

  what I'm suggesting that would be a bus [TS]

  that has a toilet [TS]

  oh nice okay obviously you got you [TS]

  basically you've got they've got like a [TS]

  stadium restroom on wheel every time we [TS]

  have shower facilities at all would [TS]

  maybe like a small library could you [TS]

  could you get the boy i would like all [TS]

  of those things i would vote for a [TS]

  little plus you get a nice google bus i [TS]

  would vote for all of those things i [TS]

  would vote for the shower facility i [TS]

  would vote for the small library and I [TS]

  would honestly i would vote for the tax [TS]

  increase that would pay for it honestly [TS]

  yeah I I do feel like that would make [TS]

  for a better City well if you'd never [TS]

  find a house you should come out here [TS]

  too soon too soon [TS]

  there's an awful lot of people and again [TS]

  i'm not trying to rub it in anybody's [TS]

  face i'm not trying to say who you know [TS]

  I voted for hillary clinton i think a [TS]

  lot of people listen to this probably [TS]

  voted for hillary clinton's I'm not [TS]

  trying to say she should've won [TS]

  you know my trying to rub in anybody's [TS]

  face if you voted for the other guy but [TS]

  there's an awful lot of people who voted [TS]

  for Donald Trump who I would really like [TS]

  for them to spend a day at like third [TS]

  and market in San Francisco [TS]

  yeah just stand on the corner for 12 [TS]

  hours now I yeah yeah that mean that [TS]

  kind I don't know that that gets at that [TS]

  gets that a lot of the problems you look [TS]

  at that i'm going to go into this but [TS]

  did you look at that Washington Post [TS]

  demographic break but yes i did way [TS]

  oh this is gonna be interesting few [TS]

  years because basically this isn't [TS]

  pretty cool [TS]

  nothing to find the link now I sent us [TS]

  here I got I got it now I'll put it that [TS]

  day [TS]

  yeah they essentially and I think these [TS]

  are exit polls so I you know take it [TS]

  with a grain of salt but basically they [TS]

  go in and do a full demographic [TS]

  breakdown you know starting starting [TS]

  with the basic numbers [TS]

  then going through gender race education [TS]

  party age and I think it's a pretty good [TS]

  infographic that really tells a hell of [TS]

  a story that I think many of us need to [TS]

  really digest i love the fact that so [TS]

  basically that they've got am like a lot [TS]

  of a line of like so you say like for [TS]

  example of a sex is a gender some woke [TS]

  um so how many what what what percentage [TS]

  voted blue right and then that's and I [TS]

  think that's reflected so basically area [TS]

  the circle is based on the size of the [TS]

  demographic group and percentage of [TS]

  votes obtained you actually kind of [TS]

  three different very interesting data [TS]

  points you get the who did what you get [TS]

  the how that went [TS]

  and then you get the like what [TS]

  percentage of the total amount do they [TS]

  represent and therein is quite a story [TS]

  I it it's it it's a fascinating thing to [TS]

  scroll through because I it there's days [TS]

  it it works on a couple of dimensions [TS]

  where the circles are the size of the [TS]

  group so I don't like the total like [TS]

  number like the per capita like how many [TS]

  people are involved right right [TS]

  it's like you see how far apart the two [TS]

  groups are but the size of the circles [TS]

  let you know [TS]

  well you know I mean like aa sex men [TS]

  versus women [TS]

  yeah well the groups are obviously [TS]

  humongous because you know it's almost [TS]

  everybody is either a man or woman and [TS]

  the race one where it's we know how did [TS]

  white people vote how to black people [TS]

  vote it shows you how many of the people [TS]

  who actually voted are white or black or [TS]

  Hispanic etc etc [TS]

  and so you hear these numbers like you [TS]

  hear that you know here's the numbers [TS]

  for the this is from the page you're [TS]

  saying and we'll put in the show notes [TS]

  but the black vote went eighty percent [TS]

  to the Democrats eight percent to Donald [TS]

  Trump 2% to Gary dingus or whatever his [TS]

  name is [TS]

  yeah but the size of that circle right [TS]

  let you know [TS]

  ain't that big right Yusei like 8088 [TS]

  well holy hell that's a blowout and then [TS]

  you see the size vehicle hire a pi is [TS]

  always around running exactly its as [TS]

  it's a really interesting infographic in [TS]

  my opinion it [TS]

  it explains the election in a way that [TS]

  feels true to me and it not obviously [TS]

  not in a way that is like true like oh [TS]

  this is the truth i want to hear because [TS]

  the election did not turn out the way [TS]

  that I wanted but sometimes when i get [TS]

  real worked up and take pictures of my [TS]

  TV and so I just sent you an image from [TS]

  last night at the great state of [TS]

  Pennsylvania in which you live and at [TS]

  the point this was taken on if you got [TS]

  that in your messages i gotta time this [TS]

  was a look at that break down so they're [TS]

  breaking down voting for the two parties [TS]

  have our presidential candidates by city [TS]

  suburbs and rural nap City 7324 Clinton [TS]

  suburbs 40-percent dead-even rural [TS]

  seventy-two percent from that that's I [TS]

  remember I remember all the way back to [TS]

  nineteen ninety-two and it was I mean [TS]

  how old was I then she's Christ I was [TS]

  only [TS]

  Jesus Christ is that the first I think [TS]

  that was the first election i could vote [TS]

  in yeah [TS]

  wow I I was like you know freshman in [TS]

  college but I remember hearing james [TS]

  carville on TV and at the time James [TS]

  Carville was like the the horse [TS]

  whisperer and Bill Clinton's ear you [TS]

  know like yeah you know he's the guy [TS]

  telling them what to do and james [TS]

  carville described Pennsylvania as [TS]

  Philadelphia on one side pittsburgh on [TS]

  the other and alabama in the middle and [TS]

  as a lifelong pennsylvanian I was like [TS]

  oh yeah that's exactly what it is and as [TS]

  a college kid who had just moved from [TS]

  that sort of Alabama middle to one of [TS]

  the city's all right the one of the [TS]

  sides of the state [TS]

  I was like yeah that's exactly right [TS]

  that is totally right [TS]

  scott simpson always used to say the [TS]

  same thing he comes from a very rural [TS]

  community he felt absolutely no [TS]

  allegiance to either of those two cities [TS]

  yes I got familiar I believe Scott is [TS]

  from lancaster or in near lancaster hi [TS]

  I didn't remember yeah I remember seeing [TS]

  his in a Christian rock band company of [TS]

  praise team is co really not like a stir [TS]

  it's close enough and it is everybody i [TS]

  know from Pennsylvania and it's actually [TS]

  one of those things where it's like it [TS]

  doesn't matter if you're a Democrat [TS]

  Republican you you hear that you're like [TS]

  oh yeah that sounds right right it does [TS]

  it even if you're like pro Trump if [TS]

  you're the guy you know somebody from [TS]

  Pennsylvania who voted for Trump yeah [TS]

  that sounds right it's you know dirty [TS]

  liberals on Pittsburgh in' and [TS]

  Philadelphia and good people in the [TS]

  middle right and it's absolutely [TS]

  striking it's at you know the picture [TS]

  you just sent me is amazing the there [TS]

  was that time last night where it was [TS]

  trying to do the translation on time but [TS]

  it was past my daughter's bed time that [TS]

  was at the point of like Hello [TS]

  oh you know what I should not have been [TS]

  looking at is that stupid New York Times [TS]

  little speedometer that all that was the [TS]

  death of me that it really it was for me [TS]

  to ever as soon as clear as Clinton it [TS]

  was clearly i'll say some names i guess [TS]

  because Clinton 82 for a really long [TS]

  time they're like boo [TS]

  it's a little bit and you get to 5050 [TS]

  what and by the time is getting up at [TS]

  one point then it's a greater than 95 [TS]

  for the Republican candidate right and [TS]

  at that was around the time when so i [TS]

  was going back and forth between CNN and [TS]

  CBS cbss John Dickerson who is flatly [TS]

  the best he he was so good i'm not sure [TS]

  I wish I you know what in hindsight onto [TS]

  got it wouldn't change the result which [TS]

  you know obviously the only thing that [TS]

  really matters but in hindsight I wish [TS]

  that I had CBS on I i watched MSNBC ok [TS]

  at you know what it was that was the [TS]

  worst decision I could've made on cuz [TS]

  they were those are happy talk about it [TS]

  would be okay or no it was it was more [TS]

  like a I don't know it was something [TS]

  about the the attitude they were taking [TS]

  to the results that that really got me [TS]

  where what I really want was just a [TS]

  total pro who didn't have you know i'll [TS]

  bet i didn't watch CBS but you know I'll [TS]

  bet John Dickerson was exactly where it [TS]

  was it was it was a pretty good crew bit [TS]

  but when i flip back and forth and [TS]

  sometimes CBS we go to local coverage [TS]

  and i was like please don't tell me [TS]

  about legal marijuana I need to see [TS]

  what's happening with us national race [TS]

  however CNN and it seems like fuck right [TS]

  away by the way you guys had any [TS]

  marijuana now congratulations you can [TS]

  have your twenties right I'm the people [TS]

  in New Jersey others like it [TS]

  we're having the the most important in [TS]

  my opinion the most important [TS]

  presidential election in our lifetimes [TS]

  and and then after the time was spent on [TS]

  do the people in New Jersey get medical [TS]

  marijuana [TS]

  well ok so one nice thing is i think [TS]

  they're finally getting their hands [TS]

  around how to deal with those giant [TS]

  touchscreens that's still kind of funny [TS]

  to watch them struggle with oh my god on [TS]

  MSNBC it was a whole horrible because [TS]

  they keep hitting the wrong thing I [TS]

  don't know in the guy kept complaining [TS]

  about it on air [TS]

  he was like goddamn this machine i don't [TS]

  think they get time to practice like [TS]

  nearly as much as like if you could see [TS]

  your local preferred happily with with [TS]

  with doing the weather report like that [TS]

  that is a person who has been dealing [TS]

  with a green screen and understands how [TS]

  to rescue their arms in this case the [TS]

  flying all over the place but what's the [TS]

  point in the evening when they got to [TS]

  where it was like okay well this is how [TS]

  it's looking and this is right before it [TS]

  went to Florida like pretty conclusively [TS]

  yeah but he's going in it was it was all [TS]

  a lie I i was felt like it was all we [TS]

  could do is not say other still a chance [TS]

  but he kept exhume and weighing on [TS]

  broward and say well you know this could [TS]

  still be proud and zooming in further [TS]

  than saying when you compare that to [TS]

  2012 and then you go back to keep going [TS]

  to this these two counties in Michigan [TS]

  saying that Detroit the story could [TS]

  still be Detroit there could be like a [TS]

  hundred fifty thousand people in Detroit [TS]

  the show up in a minute and I'll yeah [TS]

  that could be it [TS]

  Detroit trying to hold that that was [TS]

  that was a little bit of the MSNBC [TS]

  experience too [TS]

  yeah it was it was it was almost yeah [TS]

  that's that's sort of a mirror because I [TS]

  mean like you across the board and we [TS]

  were I'm sure eventually gonna get to [TS]

  our friend from South by Southwest but [TS]

  um but there was a little bit of this [TS]

  sort of you know what we're watching it [TS]

  and where we were we came into it [TS]

  optimistic we really did you know I mean [TS]

  and and you know I don't think we're [TS]

  unrealistic I didn't know everybody you [TS]

  know sort of expected Hillary Clinton [TS]

  win we went into it without at least [TS]

  expected something within a normal range [TS]

  but I was like you went into your [TS]

  kitchen right to make cupcakes and kept [TS]

  producing monitor lizard don't [TS]

  understand what's happening right what [TS]

  did and there I think they're struggling [TS]

  with because they're going they can't [TS]

  just say what the fuck is going on here [TS]

  what the flock you can't you can't say [TS]

  that on the TV Merlin [TS]

  they gotta go like well Detroit could be [TS]

  there could be i have a lot of you know [TS]

  under performing with you know [TS]

  get-out-the-vote a news alert that with [TS]

  that is so true where I i honestly think [TS]

  that that again I'm laughing because I i [TS]

  am a white male with a job so you know [TS]

  that I I i can afford to laugh but a you [TS]

  know I'm crying on the inside because i [TS]

  really do think that i'm not making [TS]

  light of this election I i know i don't [TS]

  think that's right i don't i don't think [TS]

  that's coming across right i hope so i [TS]

  just want to amp mm for size it as many [TS]

  times as i can but i really do think [TS]

  watching it live last night there was [TS]

  there was this sort of like like we [TS]

  can't say what the fuck [TS]

  so therefore because we can't say what [TS]

  the fuck were going to say stuff that [TS]

  doesn't make any sense where they're [TS]

  gonna get we have to we have to utilize [TS]

  the other words that are in the parlance [TS]

  for our business that don't get even [TS]

  wear how what the fuck me this is right [TS]

  and so they were saying things like hey [TS]

  Hillary Clinton is down by 300,000 votes [TS]

  in Florida but she might make up eighty [TS]

  thousand votes in broward county so and [TS]

  you're like wait you just said she's [TS]

  down by three hundred thousand and she [TS]

  maybe if everything goes right in [TS]

  broward county might make up 80,000 I [TS]

  you realize that's not even close to [TS]

  making up the difference now this man I [TS]

  don't think internet is what you know [TS]

  was concentrating all the way in and I [TS]

  don't even bother to go to Wisconsin is [TS]

  that so in the bag it's not even gonna [TS]

  be a problem right and i would turn to a [TS]

  man I would say I am I miss hearing this [TS]

  doesn't make any sense [TS]

  and by the time I turned to her I i [TS]

  would look and then all of a sudden [TS]

  they're talking about Wisconsin wait [TS]

  wait [TS]

  put that man that guy with the glasses [TS]

  back on and have him explain to me how [TS]

  making up eighty thousand votes and in [TS]

  this you know how doesn't them and [TS]

  and.and they were on MSNBC they were [TS]

  going through these contortions about [TS]

  you know what they can call and when [TS]

  they can call it whatever and I was like [TS]

  saying to Amy I was like wait a minute [TS]

  if you're saying she is down by three [TS]

  hundred thousand and the most she can [TS]

  make up as a bee [TS]

  what in the world is the difference [TS]

  where you can say we can call this and I [TS]

  might just call it just fucking call the [TS]

  goddamn thing you know I mean and and [TS]

  here we are 24 hours later we've got [TS]

  these results we see the results you [TS]

  know and she didn't win for why couldn't [TS]

  they call it when she was definitively [TS]

  like best-case scenario down by two [TS]

  hundred twenty thousand votes [TS]

  i I don't understand is that this is a [TS]

  phenomena in like when you're a little [TS]

  kid I have to tell you I just remember [TS]

  my talked about this before talking [TS]

  about TV but I always hated election [TS]

  nights as a kid it was so boring all the [TS]

  shows get preempted and their parents [TS]

  would sit there and watch this [TS]

  incredibly boring thing you hear about [TS]

  like Who your new alderman is yay like [TS]

  where's happy days i can bring it and so [TS]

  you know I knew this excruciating for my [TS]

  daughter but I was like you know I think [TS]

  we've kind of told this is a pretty big [TS]

  deal and we're I won't get too personal [TS]

  but like we had a lot of personal stake [TS]

  all three of us had a lot of personal [TS]

  stake in this [TS]

  yes even my nine-year-old daughter maybe [TS]

  especially my nine-year-old daughter a [TS]

  lot of stake in this and so that made it [TS]

  really difficult but um there's you you [TS]

  learn as you get a little bit older like [TS]

  when you first see the map when you're a [TS]

  little kid you go what what like Oh [TS]

  Texas well [TS]

  Texas is a big State and it's a big deal [TS]

  because there are a lot of electoral [TS]

  votes but you know all those little [TS]

  States you see running down the side [TS]

  because it too small to identify some of [TS]

  those are end up being really important [TS]

  in other words the amount the amount of [TS]

  red or blue on the map you learn to like [TS]

  look at the numbers rather than the [TS]

  pretty colors because that that's the [TS]

  story right you know I'm saying like a [TS]

  smart person understands that you can [TS]

  for example has recently 2016 you can [TS]

  win but the most votes and still not win [TS]

  the election because that's not how the [TS]

  electoral college works and i can [TS]

  understand that my wife and I understand [TS]

  that so you know you start seeing more [TS]

  and more thereof the [TS]

  red pop up and then they go to somewhere [TS]

  like Michigan and all the sudden I felt [TS]

  like I was seven years old again I was [TS]

  like there's so much red on there and [TS]

  they keep zooming in on these three [TS]

  little blue areas but like it was very [TS]

  profound to me you didn't have to undo [TS]

  that idea because the colors are not [TS]

  lining up the shapes without fucking up [TS]

  and the numbers where we're not lining [TS]

  up [TS]

  yeah I and that was that was every night [TS]

  that's why I want to locate this a [TS]

  little bit in last night because over [TS]

  the period of about 90 minutes the world [TS]

  started to feel a little bit different [TS]

  and at least a little bit different and [TS]

  then it started to feel different [TS]

  faster and faster and my breath was [TS]

  taken away at several points that i do [TS]

  out [TS]

  I mean we're three hours time shifted [TS]

  from you it but we were watching the [TS]

  same thing at the same time and that is [TS]

  exactly how I felt [TS]

  exactly exactly I couldn't put it any [TS]

  better especially and again like you [TS]

  were saying with these was a [TS]

  county-by-county results in Michigan [TS]

  I you know I was just like what the you [TS]

  know how can this be [TS]

  how how can we how can we put how can [TS]

  Hillary Clinton possibly win looking at [TS]

  this right all right man but also some [TS]

  2015 part of your brain is spinning [TS]

  because the 2015 part of your brain goes [TS]

  well even if there's three people in [TS]

  that County how did three people in that [TS]

  County choose to vote for the Republican [TS]

  candidate right in my 2059 which I still [TS]

  had just celebrated part of my brain is [TS]

  and that's again now now i have a [TS]

  different mind today but that that was [TS]

  part of the cognitive dissonance for me [TS]

  was even like looking straight numbers [TS]

  and having having my ipad pro sideways [TS]

  with multiple tabs open plus the side [TS]

  screen and like an idiot like a monster [TS]

  i'm looking at all this data and then [TS]

  drilling down and New York Times [TS]

  actually pretty good coverage on this [TS]

  where you could go in and like drill [TS]

  down into specific areas and see for [TS]

  yourself what was going on and you could [TS]

  just look at the numbers and the other [TS]

  thing we told her kid I think this is a [TS]

  good thing is like understand this is a [TS]

  multivariate thing like there's a [TS]

  certain number of electoral votes next [TS]

  aight the state is comprised of counties [TS]

  each of those counties are reporting in [TS]

  different ways at different times and [TS]

  shame on CNN for the amount of like 1% [TS]

  reporting the special news only that [TS]

  they had it was so gross but you can go [TS]

  in and this this is a thing that [TS]

  happened though and I guess this happens [TS]

  everybody when their side is not winning [TS]

  is that you start seeing that number go [TS]

  up and you see sixty percent reported [TS]

  you see 70-percent reporting you start [TS]

  wondering how many more votes really [TS]

  could be there in a box somewhere in [TS]

  portland that will pull this out and [TS]

  then like you're describing you're [TS]

  describing I think you're very very [TS]

  aptly describing that feeling of oh my [TS]

  god just say it because I see it I see [TS]

  it but I see I don't believe it I see it [TS]

  why are you just saying it because oh my [TS]

  god another one just turned red why is [TS]

  someone not saying what's really [TS]

  happening here and i really in my heart [TS]

  believe that at least some I know [TS]

  they're trying to be journalistically [TS]

  canny and trying to be fair and trying [TS]

  to do not freak out but I I honestly i [TS]

  would bet you I bet you were going to [TS]

  hear a lot about a lot of things and I [TS]

  bet one of things were going to hear is [TS]

  how many people just can't believe what [TS]

  happened on numerous levels the the [TS]

  unsewn the the failures or shortcomings [TS]

  of everything from our own perception to [TS]

  how we learn about what people think to [TS]

  tell we choose to believe anybody else [TS]

  could see the world I mean I feel like I [TS]

  don't know I feel like I've just come [TS]

  out of a culture something I'm just like [TS]

  I I don't know what I even think anymore [TS]

  i mean i know what I think I know how i [TS]

  feel i'm here to talk to you about how I [TS]

  feel but like I'm i don't i don't know [TS]

  what to trust about my bringing it was [TS]

  it was very frustrating i thought last [TS]

  night because I really wanted what I [TS]

  want is somebody who is like somebody [TS]

  who knows his much shit about the [TS]

  goddamn new macbook pros as i do i want [TS]

  them somebody who knows that much about [TS]

  the elections to tell me what the hell [TS]

  is going on and I felt like I wasn't [TS]

  getting it and I mean I felt like I was [TS]

  getting people who were as loosely as [TS]

  informed as i was going like I don't [TS]

  know this seems kind of crazy this is [TS]

  unexpected [TS]

  it's like that and i'm looking at the [TS]

  numbers on screen [TS]

  i'm thinking like why won't somebody [TS]

  just tell me Florida is already lost [TS]

  like it it was at the point it was it [TS]

  was at least two hours after the point [TS]

  where me as a non-expert was looking at [TS]

  Florida's numbers and thinking this is [TS]

  gone before they said okay [TS]

  Florida is is in the Trump column and [TS]

  I'm like what [TS]

  why did that take two hours that that [TS]

  crazy and so the two you can actually [TS]

  see this in my safari the the two things [TS]

  that it says do you want to visit this [TS]

  site on your iPad the two of those have [TS]

  been 538 in the upshot shot is that a [TS]

  really a really good job of graphically [TS]

  displaying whatever information they had [TS]

  and you know don't don't yell at them [TS]

  they're just reporting the polls but one [TS]

  of my favorite things to look at because [TS]

  I it's very interesting is the how other [TS]

  forecast compare area which I can use [TS]

  I'm sure you've seen so this is not been [TS]

  updated since yesterday but as of [TS]

  yesterday New York Times 85% Democrat [TS]

  538 the the very conservative 538 you [TS]

  know really contact they were very [TS]

  conservative party together they got a [TS]

  lot of heat and the one percent now [TS]

  after having a post 98% Democratic [TS]

  pwnisher that is eighty-nine percent p [TS]

  ec greater than ninety-nine percent down [TS]

  all as the Princeton print ok election [TS]

  something okay [TS]

  oh BTW is predict wise so that I 38 was [TS]

  the most pessimistic 771 percent the [TS]

  Princeton election committee or whatever [TS]

  the hell they're called on San i love [TS]

  the guy and I I'm not doubting the [TS]

  statistical math behind the projection [TS]

  but that was how I slept the last few [TS]

  acts like I also these wordpress [TS]

  everything else you can tell me about [TS]

  today India anything you like we talked [TS]

  about these buttons on the keyboards [TS]

  sure charged Linda at this this happy [TS]

  pointed to my wedge in another librarian [TS]

  service to help with the sponsor I over [TS]

  later i'm going to tell you this is a [TS]

  new sponsor first time together [TS]

  so this is a great and i love it because [TS]

  I love [TS]

  I you know I don't know if you know this [TS]

  or not i spent about a hundred eighty [TS]

  days a year at disney world i love [TS]

  disney and I for the first time ever [TS]

  disney sponsoring the show oh that's so [TS]

  nice thats that's so nice that must take [TS]

  a long time to work out [TS]

  have you heard this though I I this [TS]

  might be new to you that you might not [TS]

  have even heard about this Merlin it's [TS]

  called circle circle with Disney you're [TS]

  not kidding me i'm not kidding you I am [TS]

  not kidding you this is an actual [TS]

  sponsor it really is gosh it's a device [TS]

  called circle and it's a little dingus [TS]

  that's Lord God it is a little think it [TS]

  looks like a looks like a looks like the [TS]

  power adapter that comes with your [TS]

  iphone exactly you plug this into your [TS]

  house [TS]

  it pairs with any Wi-Fi router oh my god [TS]

  that you might want and what you can do [TS]

  is set up a thing so that if you have [TS]

  kids your kids you you can manage their [TS]

  internet access i got this is so boss at [TS]

  its $99 one-time costs but if you use [TS]

  the code the talk show [TS]

  don't forget the the the show you'll [TS]

  save time box it's only $89 and you can [TS]

  get this one-time cost you can get [TS]

  circle go which is like a service you [TS]

  can get it for ten dollars a month 995 I [TS]

  for up to 10 devices but it's only for [TS]

  iOS it's super easy to set up [TS]

  it is there's nothing worse than setting [TS]

  up a complicated networking device and I [TS]

  i mean i've done it was on this table [TS]

  stakes nowadays you've got if you want [TS]

  to if you want to penetrate the market [TS]

  as you like to say you're gonna have to [TS]

  come out with a device that has as [TS]

  little italy you know save the fiddly [TS]

  stuff for coffee let's circle exact [TS]

  content for you know I'm saying exactly [TS]

  if you're going to spend a lot of time [TS]

  with something it might as well be [TS]

  making your coffee circle with Disney [TS]

  let's parents filter content customized [TS]

  what's available [TS]

  customize the time [TS]

  I'm that kids can be on the internet I [TS]

  it it's amazing kids staying up late on [TS]

  their tablet circle with Disney lets you [TS]

  set a bedtime for each kid on this [TS]

  device [TS]

  what about 4g because you think like a [TS]

  you know Wayne out shut off the Wi-Fi my [TS]

  kid just hop on ba LG everybody you know [TS]

  they know they did your kids already [TS]

  have a probably if especially if their [TS]

  teenage years they already have a [TS]

  smartphone and they already have that so [TS]

  that's why they make circle go circle go [TS]

  disney circle go takes all the settings [TS]

  on your kids devices and lets you [TS]

  configure them with your circle with [TS]

  Disney what the I swear to god I'm going [TS]

  to have that word is an MDM encounter I [TS]

  had its busy villages John it's disney [TS]

  magic disney magic this young magik so [TS]

  here you go go to if you've got kids and [TS]

  you want to manage their access to the [TS]

  internet on your wife I'd remember the [TS]

  code the talk show I go to meet circle [TS]

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  like we're going to eat steak or [TS]

  whatever it's like you're meeting [TS]

  somebody like you're reading somebody [TS]

  meet circle dot com and you get free [TS]

  shipping and ten dollars off with that [TS]

  code the talk the talk show [TS]

  it's a great device super easy they sent [TS]

  me 1i i did i send it up it is super [TS]

  easy to set up i mean my kid actually [TS]

  like is I you know just between you [TS]

  yeah maybe sort of a you know not the [TS]

  sharpest tack in room because he he like [TS]

  I don't think he actually like tries to [TS]

  go to anything that we wouldn't approve [TS]

  up [TS]

  mm but i disappoint you a little bit a [TS]

  little bit because I don't want to be a [TS]

  little bit more [TS]

  little bit more [TS]

  ambitious yeah a little bit i would i [TS]

  would think that he would but so you [TS]

  know like we're not really you know it's [TS]

  like that we set it up and it was like [TS]

  super easy to setup they sent me the [TS]

  thing i set it up and it's like do we [TS]

  really need this [TS]

  I don't know because it seems to me like [TS]

  our kid just like comes to us and is [TS]

  like hey a nice you know is it okay if I [TS]

  search google for blah blah blah and now [TS]

  but you know what belt and suspenders [TS]

  have a kid and get yourself a circle [TS]

  exactly that's what I thought exactly [TS]

  deal couldn't be easier to setup it's a [TS]

  beautiful little device so go to meet [TS]

  circle meet circle calm and remember the [TS]

  code the talk show you will save ten [TS]

  bucks and get free shipping [TS]

  there you go just what it's worth [TS]

  for now it appears that meat circle calm [TS]

  with an a is available you know what I'm [TS]

  just gonna go there as a man from san [TS]

  francisco i'm here to tell you if there [TS]

  was a website called meet circle within [TS]

  a about circles of meat got word t [TS]

  pretty good feeling that with 2 e's but [TS]

  not let you see it I could have sworn [TS]

  that was the name of the restaurant [TS]

  where we went the last time I was out [TS]

  there meet circle with you know what [TS]

  that would mean that does actually we're [TS]

  making joke but the action is not a bad [TS]

  name for a lot better think about think [TS]

  about those touristy sushi place you go [TS]

  arrives on a boat and they just count [TS]

  your plates like what if there was a [TS]

  rotating a rotating let's call a [TS]

  carousel a car near carousel that you've [TS]

  got you've gotta meet a meets spinning [TS]

  meet lazy susan [TS]

  yeah right and you can just try all [TS]

  different things it would be kinda like [TS]

  going to like a brazilian steakhouse [TS]

  I have a technology yeah i think it [TS]

  would love that meat circle i gobbled up [TS]

  all right and at the brazilian [TS]

  steakhouse but the the ones i've been to [TS]

  we've got two here in philly we've got a [TS]

  focus shower and we've got a few of the [TS]

  other one is called [TS]

  the other ones better running [TS]

  endorsement from Jack very endorsement [TS]

  but yeah we've got one here the it's [TS]

  costly but it's a lot of fun if you go [TS]

  at lunch you don't get as many varieties [TS]

  and all know the lunch you get screwed [TS]

  right that might make a chicken hearts [TS]

  aching heart so much they desperately [TS]

  want you to come in at all at lunch and [TS]

  would you like more chicken heart yeah [TS]

  and if you call about sunday po yes i [TS]

  know that spanish but still they were [TS]

  good we're good [TS]

  how about some more that tri-tip yeah [TS]

  you maybe you try the chicken heart it's [TS]

  on the sort i did you find it quite soon [TS]

  the tiny little sausages [TS]

  I love the little songs i like the salty [TS]

  my favorite i think is the straight up [TS]

  like salty sirloin alright I at the the [TS]

  other one here in Philadelphia is called [TS]

  Chima kima that's the good one focus [TS]

  shout is a little I don't know little [TS]

  gonna be able to tell you you save like [TS]

  five bucks on the it you know there's [TS]

  always like an all-you-can-eat type deal [TS]

  you don't want you only buy meat on [TS]

  price right [TS]

  oh yeah team is a good run but it for [TS]

  anybody who hasn't been to one of these [TS]

  places the both of them at least here [TS]

  and I've been to focus shout at you know [TS]

  it it's gonna be funny because it might [TS]

  come up again later in the show in [TS]

  austin texas I've been to sell it if you [TS]

  meet a lot of interesting people that [TS]

  you meet a lot lot better if you came in [TS]

  but it's the same feel though where you [TS]

  gal you go into this place and and [TS]

  there's this is you know the cowboys [TS]

  walking around who grill the steak [TS]

  yeah and you have like a little they [TS]

  give everybody a little a little thing [TS]

  like red light green light [TS]

  nobody got though right yeah more steak [TS]

  let's take red and green right so great [TS]

  in green snake if you put it up [TS]

  greenside up the guy cums if the guys [TS]

  coming around with the whatever cut a [TS]

  steak he's made he'll say hate you want [TS]

  some and [TS]

  you say you are usually ask you but if [TS]

  you have it on green they are not [TS]

  legally obligated to ask right they [TS]

  might just give it to you right that is [TS]

  that that's a lot that's a lot of 30 [TS]

  it's called from the Magna Carta they [TS]

  can come right up and for whatever meat [TS]

  suits them on your plate and you have to [TS]

  eat it and and they don't have they [TS]

  don't that you don't say thank you [TS]

  they're just going to literally keep [TS]

  bringing me until you can get your [TS]

  swollen greasy fingers to change avocado [TS]

  that's the truth that is the law of the [TS]

  brazilian steakhouses but if you put [TS]

  right otherwise don't fill up on salad [TS]

  that's the second law second law of the [TS]

  brazilian steakhouse because to a that's [TS]

  how they get you this [TS]

  that's how they get you they want you to [TS]

  fill up on potato salad and shit [TS]

  don't do that because we're gonna bring [TS]

  you a bunch of chicken hearts they [TS]

  always have [TS]

  it's always a it everyone and it doesn't [TS]

  matter what the name of this the the [TS]

  steak houses if it's a Brazilian [TS]

  steakhouse [TS]

  it's always a salad bar where you can go [TS]

  up and go hog wild on the salad the [TS]

  amount of ours has a hot part 2 r's [TS]

  called espetus and boy is it ever good [TS]

  at was called look at a map at buca with [TS]

  your school we got to we got we got that [TS]

  we got for good shall and we got job [TS]

  Dima Dima espetus they got they got a [TS]

  really nice salad bar of some [TS]

  unconventional salad some [TS]

  non-traditional salads and they got a [TS]

  hot bar so if you want black beans and [TS]

  white rice not a problem [TS]

  you go up there get yourself kind of [TS]

  some 50 pea it's really going to go by [TS]

  the bathroom just wash your hands come [TS]

  out get a plate but that's that's rule [TS]

  number two number to a steakhouse club's [TS]

  you don't don't fill up and help bread [TS]

  they're gonna give the cheesy bread fuck [TS]

  that number 3 i'm just layin steakhouse [TS]

  do not fill up on the fucking I'm [TS]

  talking to you daughter big glass of [TS]

  milk [TS]

  that's for meet ya don't fill up on that [TS]

  and the cheesy bread is good that's it [TS]

  is good but that's how they get you [TS]

  that's 3a it's so true it's really [TS]

  disappointing that there's a reason why [TS]

  at like a regular steakhouse where oh [TS]

  where I mean regular meaning you don't [TS]

  get unlimited red light green light me [TS]

  right right that they don't also have a [TS]

  just eat as much as you want at the [TS]

  salad bar salad bar in a exactly right [TS]

  come it's you know it is true you know [TS]

  you said that's how they get you in the [TS]

  end that is for I think for me and you [TS]

  that's how they get you is sort of a [TS]

  catchphrase of like our parents [TS]

  generation for you know it's like that's [TS]

  they would explain the way the system [TS]

  works the single greatest piece of [TS]

  conventional wisdom for everybody [TS]

  older than me of course you're going to [TS]

  7-11 that's how they get over yourself [TS]

  you're gonna get one of those big gulps [TS]

  oh how much that it's a dollar you know [TS]

  that cost a nickel know how to get you [TS]

  nowhere is that right is that right i [TS]

  watch out in his car [TS]

  japanese car that's how they get you I [TS]

  remember somebody telling me that like [TS]

  when you went to 7-11 that you had to be [TS]

  careful how much ice you put in the cup [TS]

  but I san antonio yeah that's right you [TS]

  write that that no matter what size cup [TS]

  you got they'd fill it up with ice and [TS]

  you'd get the same amount of soda even [TS]

  if you've got the 64 ounce which is [TS]

  bullshit like a 64 ounce soda is this is [TS]

  an enormous amount of Sona but there [TS]

  were people who told me in my youth that [TS]

  that that's how they get you if you like [TS]

  the secret menu for cheapskates it's [TS]

  like that if you can get away with a you [TS]

  don't listen so you know when you go to [TS]

  this place you can ask for extra rolls [TS]

  to take home and they have to give it to [TS]

  you [TS]

  so at least we used to run a restaurant [TS]

  and when I was a kid and will be the [TS]

  same people who are very unhappy every [TS]

  weekend would come in and they came [TS]

  there to be unhappy together and and [TS]

  they would come in and they would same [TS]

  people complain about the same things [TS]

  every time there was one couple that [TS]

  always came in always got the same [TS]

  really crappy deuce right by the bar and [TS]

  then they complain about the noise in [TS]

  the bar and then they would steal [TS]

  literally everything off the table to [TS]

  every week they would take all the [TS]

  silverware they would take all this with [TS]

  the salt-and-pepper shakers they would [TS]

  take the sweet low they would take the [TS]

  sugar they would take the flower [TS]

  arrangement and then we have them back [TS]

  the next week and that was the first [TS]

  thing we did Florida we had like a large [TS]

  on I gotta be honest with them have a [TS]

  hard day it you know what I I don't know [TS]

  who else would do this with me Maryland [TS]

  honest well we're not going to scoop up [TS]

  every single person but now you know [TS]

  I I think it's good that we're here [TS]

  what's going on here to talk about this [TS]

  alright so Amy and I you know this this [TS]

  this is you know this maybe people would [TS]

  listen to the show [TS]

  don't know this my wife Amy and I have [TS]

  people maybe know her on Twitter she's [TS]

  at Amy Jane but we literally were in the [TS]

  same kindergarten class together we we [TS]

  were in school together from [TS]

  kindergarten all the way through 12th [TS]

  grade then we were separated for the [TS]

  college years somehow made it work and [TS]

  and you know here we are now we're [TS]

  married and we're on on Twitter were [TS]

  married on here but we we've often said [TS]

  though it is an amazing thing that we [TS]

  spent our our our like teenage years [TS]

  together because we can tell stories [TS]

  about our teenage years and instead of [TS]

  like oh my god just blacking out rolling [TS]

  your eyes because you're your [TS]

  significant other your your partner is [TS]

  talking about you know being 14 years [TS]

  old you're like oh my god I remember [TS]

  that and you're like I was there and yes [TS]

  that is true so we were a at where we [TS]

  grew up [TS]

  everybody was a member it was a public [TS]

  pool it was it was public but you had to [TS]

  pee like your family had to pay like a [TS]

  hundred bucks a year to get in or [TS]

  something like that so it wasn't like [TS]

  you could just show up but everybody [TS]

  everybody was a member you get like a [TS]

  special badge [TS]

  every year they put out like a new color [TS]

  badge and you'd so it on your swimsuit [TS]

  so so when you showed up at the pool [TS]

  they could see that you you know where a [TS]

  paid member and as a teenager every day [TS]

  every single day in the summer [TS]

  what i would do is i would wake up i [TS]

  would go play basketball because I I was [TS]

  an avid basketball player i would play [TS]

  basketball from like 10 11am told one in [TS]

  the afternoon and then it would just [TS]

  when it when it got just too goddamn hot [TS]

  to keep playing basketball [TS]

  we would head over to the pool and [TS]

  that's where we would go [TS]

  and at the pool there was a snack bar [TS]

  and the snack bar sold a you know like [TS]

  Rick Reese's Peanut Butter Cubs swedish [TS]

  fish and the ending your entire [TS]

  selection of food offerings for Reese's [TS]

  peanut butter cups [TS]

  swedish fish this which were a penny [TS]

  apiece and they'd count them out it [TS]

  would take forever because I'm 233 [TS]

  swedish fish and and head back to the [TS]

  pool with here and there is one before [TS]

  you go back in and they had a soda found [TS]

  and here's what I long story short at [TS]

  some point in my teenagers somebody [TS]

  convinced me that they were they were [TS]

  screwing me over by filling my cup with [TS]

  ice because that's how they get you [TS]

  that's like yeah so I would go over and [TS]

  get my i would say like give me a dr. [TS]

  pepper no ice [TS]

  yeah but never see that coming two [TS]

  points i have two points to make on this [TS]

  number one warm Dr Pepper he's like it [TS]

  is horrible [TS]

  it really you really develop prunus [TS]

  really comes out it you don't realize [TS]

  how pruning dr pepper is until you have [TS]

  it at room temperature and number two it [TS]

  taste like it tastes like some kind of a [TS]

  19th century elixir this is the point [TS]

  but this you're gonna love this Merlin [TS]

  you're gonna love it [TS]

  about two or three weeks after i started [TS]

  ordering my sodas no ice and my friends [TS]

  were doing the same it wasn't just me it [TS]

  was a bunch of us they changed their [TS]

  policy and if you hold your soda no ice [TS]

  they only filled it to one inch below [TS]

  the cup [TS]

  wow so if you said support portion [TS]

  control right so they end and we would [TS]

  say like give me a large dr pepper no [TS]

  ice and they'd only fill it an inch [TS]

  below the rim and the NN you'd be like [TS]

  well wait that's not fill and they'd be [TS]

  like well that's where the ice would [TS]

  that's what were those bars bars with [TS]

  the robot dispensers you know that only [TS]

  like you don't mean like there's some [TS]

  bars now we're when you get a drink [TS]

  it's like it's a robot does it tell ya [TS]

  this is exactly what everyone out for [TS]

  half an ounce or whatever sickening my [TS]

  god see is that then they got you again [TS]

  that's how they got you something well [TS]

  you know what the thing is it is in [TS]

  hindsight one reaffirms the other where [TS]

  on the one hand it tasted terrible [TS]

  because it wasn't cold but on the other [TS]

  hand the fact that they started screwing [TS]

  you on how much Soda it reaffirmed the [TS]

  the initial reason why you did it which [TS]

  was this is how they get you [TS]

  because it wasn't how they got you why [TS]

  would they be screwing you on how much [TS]

  so do they put the cup right huh [TS]

  absolutely absolutely system always wins [TS]

  system always wins and and you know what [TS]

  this is honestly how we wound up with [TS]

  President Trump I mean honestly why I [TS]

  think you draw if you connect with the [TS]

  unassisted billing system if you connect [TS]

  the dots i would say that like 1987 at [TS]

  the Antietam pool [TS]

  uh-huh I and no ice [TS]

  Dr Pepper only being filled one inch [TS]

  below the rim dot here you go 16 [TS]

  president Trump do you agree with me [TS]

  when they finally oh why did I make a [TS]

  mistake as a clear line i mean i don't [TS]

  know when to give it that way i see it i [TS]

  mean this is like I'm thinking of like [TS]

  any kind of a you know document no [TS]

  documentary but a docudrama like you [TS]

  have something like and the band played [TS]

  on ya [TS]

  and the band played on is about the AIDS [TS]

  epidemic but it begins with Matthew [TS]

  Modine deal with the Ebola and that sets [TS]

  us up for the flashback season you know [TS]

  Paul McCartney walks by season based on [TS]

  the window one day you'll be playing [TS]

  that the covering club you know as you [TS]

  know Bob this is what i end up doing [TS]

  right and so in this case a young a [TS]

  young John Gruber hot from basketball [TS]

  Larry one everyday he wants to take a [TS]

  dip by 3 cents for the Swedish Fish and [TS]

  had himself a refreshing cup of dr. [TS]

  pepper and a and now today everybody's [TS]

  at school crying right and I really [TS]

  yeah you put it that way and I do is I [TS]

  see it now it's it's I think it's a [TS]

  direct line [TS]

  no see hows did everybody get so this is [TS]

  going to be a in ellicott so you know [TS]

  it's telling i was listening all these [TS]

  podcasts usually you can get six podcast [TS]

  today in the run-up to this boy was like [TS]

  radio silence this morning there's one [TS]

  NPR politics episode i think they [TS]

  recorded last night there was a pretty [TS]

  short [TS]

  what was the other one 1600 finally came [TS]

  out but so far today [TS]

  no culture gabfest maybe John's busy no [TS]

  no Trump cast still haven't heard [TS]

  election profit makers and it's been [TS]

  like a real create previous serpenti i [TS]

  mean i don't know how many of those [TS]

  things you listen to but I mean I i I'm [TS]

  seeing their flippity flippity flip it [TS]

  like come on overcast let me let me [TS]

  experience my emotions as my hippie girl [TS]

  friend used to say i want to experience [TS]

  my emotions i want to walk through this [TS]

  I I again i'm i'm being more jovial than [TS]

  usual and quite frankly what the holiday [TS]

  see well yeah right quite frankly I [TS]

  might be without taking another sip of [TS]

  any beverage i might be drunk next 72 [TS]

  hours based on how much I drank last [TS]

  night so you know you gave yourself a [TS]

  contact high [TS]

  it's it's you know yeah i know i mean [TS]

  it's table stakes let's just face a [TS]

  complicated time for sure I think it [TS]

  might be enjoyable but here is what I [TS]

  thought I i really did a and i'm going [TS]

  to be deadly serious here and again it's [TS]

  a political it doesn't matter what side [TS]

  you're on [TS]

  but there was a moment yesterday let's [TS]

  say 24 hours ago and and as we record [TS]

  you know [TS]

  no results r in so it wasn't even like [TS]

  oh it looks bad for her [TS]

  looks good for him or whatever right 24 [TS]

  hours ago I thought you know what I [TS]

  should have done a show by now I should [TS]

  have had a new episode [TS]

  I you know I don't have a regular [TS]

  schedule I don't record on a regular [TS]

  schedule and the reason i didn't record [TS]

  a show is either [TS]

  but i can't i'm so distracted by this [TS]

  election [TS]

  I don't want to do a show because it's [TS]

  all I can think about and I realized in [TS]

  hindsight I I should have done a show [TS]

  not from myself but because hey I'll bet [TS]

  tens of thousands of people who listen [TS]

  to my show would love to just distract [TS]

  themselves with me talking about the the [TS]

  goddamn key travel on a new macbook pro [TS]

  like absolutely right [TS]

  like two hours of me talking about what [TS]

  it's like the type on the new macbook [TS]

  pro it in it in my mind was like well [TS]

  what a waste of fucking time but in [TS]

  hindsight I thought like oh that would [TS]

  have been actually would have been great [TS]

  for the people who love this stuff that [TS]

  I do and I should have done it and i [TS]

  woke up today and I thought well now [TS]

  I've got to get Marland yeah it's no I I [TS]

  mean basically it's been a really weird [TS]

  morning and my only thought was that [TS]

  like i said in text you my only plan for [TS]

  this entire day was to try to stay [TS]

  saying and clean the shit out of the car [TS]

  and my whole plan for today was like my [TS]

  wife bike to work today and I was like [TS]

  so I'm gonna clean the car today [TS]

  ok no it's fine so I go out there I got [TS]

  vinegar I got the baking soda i got the [TS]

  menus I got the big back i'm taking it [TS]

  all out to get the whole thing apart and [TS]

  I'm just I'm scrubbing like a crazy [TS]

  person because like need to control a [TS]

  small area i did that yesterday ice [TS]

  Merlin I swear to god you can I mean [TS]

  seriously go [TS]

  DMR right now you can you DM Amy the [TS]

  ashes at the holiday party 20 know she's [TS]

  actually you probably will be soon but [TS]

  she's not a holiday party yet you know [TS]

  the reason he didn't get an invitation [TS]

  is because you asked for an invite for [TS]

  aspirin invite you don't get an [TS]

  invitation know that I I you know my [TS]

  feelings on invites that's rule number [TS]

  five and presents tickets you can never [TS]

  get it but there's no invite not a word [TS]

  I'm saying that I yesterday system [TS]

  that's where they got you could you [TS]

  could actually got DMR and find out you [TS]

  you're not using the car [TS]

  no I what I didn't have high vacuum in [TS]

  their dining room [TS]

  hmm and our kid our kid he loves to eat [TS]

  he loves corn chips eats a lot of tacos [TS]

  it eat you know but he he has he just [TS]

  likes corn chips and there's just [TS]

  there's just a ton of ground up corn [TS]

  chips underneath our dining room table [TS]

  and I thought oh what better [TS]

  why not now let's get an amazing got to [TS]

  get this court shit somebody's gotta get [TS]

  mm my wife came that and it is let's I [TS]

  mean shocker 99 times out of a hundred [TS]

  when somebody you know [TS]

  vacuums up the corn chips it's my wife [TS]

  not me and my wife as I what the fuck [TS]

  are you doing [TS]

  I clean the shit out of our dishes last [TS]

  night I I clean dish they didn't need to [TS]

  clean I I clean the cast-iron pan twice [TS]

  and then this is life hack that you can [TS]

  use kosher salt and you can rub it [TS]

  around in there without without harming [TS]

  it you don't yeah yeah I did that a [TS]

  couple times with kosher salt and this [TS]

  took a turn red [TS]

  that's not the one point to watch Parks [TS]

  and Recreation because my daughter was [TS]

  on the verge and so we watched a very [TS]

  good relevant episode of Parks and Rec [TS]

  where she she nearly wins the election [TS]

  because it's an educational program [TS]

  controlled we got to talk about we got [TS]

  it we got to talk a little bit about [TS]

  about don't you think a little bit about [TS]

  the what we got wrong but you think that [TS]

  means that so much is that too deep we [TS]

  could talk about the keyboard [TS]

  you know i'm not using my dots because [TS]

  i'm on the podcast but i could type of [TS]

  my das that would help now I think we [TS]

  should I think we should put the moves [TS]

  on to travel [TS]

  let us listen this and see that sounds [TS]

  good [TS]

  you want to talk about key through our [TS]

  heart that sounds good [TS]

  sixth rule of brazilian steakhouse [TS]

  wow that I mean obviously that and what [TS]

  kind of cherry that is that could be [TS]

  cherry blue Jerry Brown I don't have to [TS]

  have Jason types very fast [TS]

  for two or three seconds are completely [TS]

  forgot about this election is gonna talk [TS]

  about it but I have seen you know I [TS]

  don't see the relevance [TS]

  I have focused on very interesting but [TS]

  photo we just satisfied with the [TS]

  butterfly switches on my computer [TS]

  yeah I have photographed myself like [TS]

  taking a step you know as the kids kids [TS]

  call myself being with Jason and watch [TS]

  the video of you using an escape [TS]

  yeah if that is ok no we're uh huh you [TS]

  know what I had to have to believe that [TS]

  tweet [TS]

  oh yeah oh because it's a loner [TS]

  oh yeah well and it turns out the [TS]

  embargo is it's not of oh man the [TS]

  embargo still counts even today I'm so [TS]

  ludicrous that anybody is doing anything [TS]

  today doesn't seem crazy anybody is [TS]

  that's exactly what I'm not yesterday [TS]

  what I it turns so long story short I i [TS]

  tweeted a video of me using an escape [TS]

  key on and macbook pro and the embargo [TS]

  is not up on those macbook pros but on [TS]

  the ones that have liked the physical [TS]

  keys [TS]

  it is up and I i just it was yesterday [TS]

  and I was so I just like wouldn't it be [TS]

  you know i mean like this is what i was [TS]

  thinking I was like yeah why not obsess [TS]

  over the Escape key [TS]

  absolutely I would love to spend the [TS]

  next four years thinking about escape [TS]

  keys [TS]

  it just seems like wake me up for years [TS]

  from now when when the next election is [TS]

  over and I'll spend the entire between [TS]

  now and then just dealing with escapees [TS]

  not even are from a friend Marco even [TS]

  said hey you know I would get into [TS]

  sports if i could get that back oh I've [TS]

  been to emails today one email was a 2fa [TS]

  to get into my apple on the web when you [TS]

  sent me the notes for this and the other [TS]

  one was somebody who just sent me an [TS]

  e-mail today I was like what the fuck [TS]

  you send me e-mail today who sends a [TS]

  fucking email the day after the election [TS]

  I felt I mean it's the way we used to [TS]

  feel about Christmas [TS]

  it would be like someone's always like a [TS]

  blue be like having like a vacuum [TS]

  salesman your house on Christmas morning [TS]

  but acquire what are you doing [TS]

  don't you live in civil society you [TS]

  don't send somebody an email on a day [TS]

  like today right [TS]

  it's um what are you thinking about how [TS]

  did you how did that even cross your [TS]

  mind to do that i'm just i'm sending [TS]

  texts to my friends and saying are you [TS]

  okay that's what i've been doing all [TS]

  morning is taken away i gotta say are [TS]

  you okay [TS]

  the Sun never even came out here it [TS]

  doesn't here we actually have had we've [TS]

  had about 36 hours of complete darkness [TS]

  that I mean that might be making that up [TS]

  it's actually been a very dreary day he [TS]

  did go read him and yeah [TS]

  the amazing thing and I thought well [TS]

  this is a good sign is yesterday [TS]

  election day it was beautiful it was 62 [TS]

  and sunny it was what a good sign LOL [TS]

  great sign not a cloudy skies [TS]

  everything's coming up no yeah this is [TS]

  gonna be here I'm gonna walk away with [TS]

  it this is aa did you put it to you to [TS]

  return to that because I just need to [TS]

  vent a little more is like even at last [TS]

  night even when it got bad and even when [TS]

  the needle move past the fifty percent [TS]

  that in that 2015 part of my brain said [TS]

  calm the fuck down [TS]

  it's there's no there's no way I mean [TS]

  how late was it before how it was before [TS]

  you started to flip and then how long [TS]

  did it take for you to really say oh [TS]

  shit that's a good point as a very good [TS]

  question i would need they're playing [TS]

  chances and you expected to go back and [TS]

  forth this is how it works electoral [TS]

  math you know what I i started to feel [TS]

  really bad in my stomach when it took so [TS]

  long to call Virginia because I I [TS]

  Florida European authorities you guys [TS]

  big state and replace yeah and talk two [TS]

  time zones like I'm not going on in [TS]

  florida and I I am I'm enough of a [TS]

  political nerd where I kind of I I [TS]

  there's you know [TS]

  I I do feel like this election flipped a [TS]

  lot of the conventional wisdom but the [TS]

  conventional wisdom is based still [TS]

  basically true and it you know the [TS]

  Virginia being so long was like a really [TS]

  bad sign associated you know Hillary [TS]

  Clinton ended up winning Virginia but [TS]

  the fact that it took so long to call it [TS]

  was really wear it it is so i would say [TS]

  at least on the east coast time it was [TS]

  around I don't know around ten o'clock [TS]

  so probably seven o'clock your time [TS]

  where I just thought the fact that [TS]

  they're not willing to call Virginia is [TS]

  a really bad son [TS]

  yeah I think I started to really get to [TS]

  fear a little before that last night you [TS]

  know i do the benefits like where if you [TS]

  go and buy this restaurant school gets [TS]

  money we track you do that so [TS]

  m-mom girls went out to get some okay [TS]

  dokay place pokeball and they were going [TS]

  for a while and like they came back in [TS]

  and I was like this is not good but it [TS]

  was it was a situation where like I you [TS]

  know I follows enough to know here's the [TS]

  battleground states i don't i don't need [TS]

  an infographic to understand the [TS]

  importance of that being somebody who's [TS]

  followed this more closely than I would [TS]

  ever meet in public until today I knew [TS]

  that there's a handful of places that [TS]

  are going to make a difference right [TS]

  anyway I explain this with my kids I [TS]

  mean yeah California's got a lot of [TS]

  electoral votes but say what did they [TS]

  say about companies that's dead so you [TS]

  know don't take pics into the price or [TS]

  built into the price we go into this [TS]

  knowing that there's a really good [TS]

  chance i mean there's a way beyond good [TS]

  chance the California is going to go [TS]

  this way there's a very good there's a [TS]

  you know again a very good chance that [TS]

  say utah is going to go this way etc etc [TS]

  etc so you really focus on it's like [TS]

  we're going to worry about the ponds [TS]

  we're going to worry about the road [TS]

  that's right in front of us here these [TS]

  are the big things and it really kept [TS]

  going ok you know ha ha here we go [TS]

  not gonna have a drink this is going to [TS]

  be fine and I just kept thinking okay [TS]

  this time for a few of these to go from [TS]

  white to blue and I kept thinking is [TS]

  really really feels like it's really [TS]

  time for somebody to go from light blue [TS]

  to like well this seems quite a regular [TS]

  yr more [TS]

  are these not looking to blue and that's [TS]

  where i got to the headspace here and [TS]

  where you're like what is taking so long [TS]

  we thought that was going to be one of [TS]

  the firewall states like what happened [TS]

  with that and I I depth along with a lot [TS]

  of other people watching this that's [TS]

  probably around the time we used to do [TS]

  we have the WTF maybe a loud moment of [TS]

  going like you know what if this is [TS]

  something I was a fundamentally [TS]

  different because it doesn't like it [TS]

  started as an election and turned into a [TS]

  tennis game it was an election there's [TS]

  an election but at the same time there [TS]

  are so many things that we thought to [TS]

  some level of certainty we understood [TS]

  about this and I have to tell me I'm [TS]

  trying to keep coming back to this is [TS]

  where my emotions in my mind are today [TS]

  is I'm still stunned [TS]

  I'm just I'm still stunned with how much [TS]

  i did not understand about what was [TS]

  happening and then you go and you look [TS]

  at the polls and you go and you look at [TS]

  the reporting on all of this and I think [TS]

  it's probably about five times worse for [TS]

  a journalist today you know what I mean [TS]

  like listen to these folks just sit and [TS]

  listen to the NPR podcast this morning [TS]

  and they're just like yeah this is real [TS]

  different than anything we had imagined [TS]

  could happen [TS]

  I so what we don't do we rule we rule [TS]

  out i mean just to get this out of the [TS]

  way because there's certainly some part [TS]

  of your brain that goes huh [TS]

  it's weird like if I were going to make [TS]

  a program that affected the elections if [TS]

  I were going to do some kind of an [TS]

  exploit I would make it look close for a [TS]

  while and then win by a little bit like [TS]

  you're a gambler right buttons are we [TS]

  rolling that out do we feel like that's [TS]

  that's probably not going to get out of [TS]

  the way so we can move on but yeah I [TS]

  don't think that meddling and I don't I [TS]

  don't I don't think so i think it's a [TS]

  totally legit election and I know the [TS]

  problem there there was there was a [TS]

  period between i would say between like [TS]

  eight and ten eastern time last night [TS]

  like we we had MSNBC on before eight but [TS]

  aight was really when we you know we [TS]

  that's just when real results like this [TS]

  one pole start closing and you start [TS]

  being able to say something right so [TS]

  from eight to ten I was kind of rolling [TS]

  my eyes and [TS]

  and I I kind of felt like MSNBC was [TS]

  sandbagging it like to make it look [TS]

  close there was like the Arctic their [TS]

  sandbags a great we're forever like [TS]

  they're milking this this is their last [TS]

  chance [TS]

  yeah we need to make this seem like a [TS]

  horse race up to and then there were [TS]

  kept saying every everyone kept saying [TS]

  how close it was that right watchword of [TS]

  the night [TS]

  this is so much closer than anybody [TS]

  thought and and there was there was an [TS]

  interchange between Rachel Maddow and [TS]

  what's the guy's name is the the guy who [TS]

  started got fired from them big seed at [TS]

  NBC [TS]

  oh that Tom Brokaw now but he got [TS]

  demoted not fired but demoted [TS]

  hello Brian Williams violence that's it [TS]

  yeah there was an in exchange between [TS]

  Brian Williams and rachel maddow where [TS]

  they they they kind of went meta and [TS]

  they were like we're not fucking with [TS]

  you we you know [TS]

  honest to god this is up in the air as [TS]

  as we're making it seem and it was right [TS]

  around that that ten o'clock at night [TS]

  moment where where you know where I [TS]

  thought like the fact that they're not [TS]

  willing to call Virginia yet is like [TS]

  this is something is going on and that [TS]

  you know that's where I thought hey this [TS]

  isn't just you know the TV you know [TS]

  they're they're not just playing this [TS]

  for ratings right right yeah I felt [TS]

  something similar and I CBS did a really [TS]

  good job didn't love every single one of [TS]

  the folks on I think they could have [TS]

  done with fewer than six people and just [TS]

  missed let's talk more but it was it was [TS]

  a very good group but i felt a similar [TS]

  thing a lot of what i was looking at and [TS]

  that's when we were talking earlier [TS]

  about the you know screaming WTF i don't [TS]

  know why i'm suddenly so precious about [TS]

  language but but there there there did [TS]

  get to be this feeling that you're [TS]

  describing of almost like like we need [TS]

  to break the fourth wall for a minute [TS]

  here [TS]

  yeah like we understand that is [TS]

  performed a performance aspect of this i [TS]

  mean a polling site is going to get less [TS]

  traffic if it's a solid 8514 [TS]

  for a year if it's a pretty solid 8514 [TS]

  for a year thats not gonna get as much [TS]

  traffic as something where those numbers [TS]

  are changing around so we get cynical [TS]

  about that we understand clickbait and [TS]

  all that kind of stuff but i agree i [TS]

  think there's a certain pointer maybe I [TS]

  was just inferring this with my own [TS]

  increasingly frazzled mentality but I [TS]

  really felt like they're like they were [TS]

  struggling with it too and so we're [TS]

  avoiding getting getting to this but [TS]

  like you know the poles who everybody [TS]

  and you know and like you you go listen [TS]

  to anybody without oxygen text today [TS]

  like I've listened to the 538 podcast [TS]

  and you know between eight and Harry [TS]

  they're always trying to say like tamp [TS]

  down this like irrational exuberance [TS]

  about what this means and like honestly [TS]

  you know they got burned pretty bad on [TS]

  Trump because at one point he said he's [TS]

  now famous for saying that he thought [TS]

  Trump have killed him saying his name [TS]

  had a less than twenty percent chance of [TS]

  becoming the GOP candidate and that [TS]

  really came back to bite him and I think [TS]

  he clamped down super hard with the [TS]

  model [TS]

  all right listen that show along how [TS]

  they develop the model updates them all [TS]

  what happened with the model but I i [TS]

  think they have all along with trying to [TS]

  tamp that down but I'm i had this really [TS]

  sick feeling where I I i want to hear [TS]

  this but I don't want to hear this I [TS]

  want to hear what they have to say [TS]

  because they were the most conservative [TS]

  and it was still so I SAT you and I [TS]

  haven't seen up the side by side yet I [TS]

  have not seen a side-by-side on how it [TS]

  turned out versus what each polling site [TS]

  modeled but that's going to be a hell of [TS]

  a story like well what parts of that [TS]

  broke down how I breakdown i mean i'd [TS]

  like to think of myself as an empathetic [TS]

  person i'm fond of quoting that old [TS]

  grimoire movie and saying everybody has [TS]

  their reasons like I think I'm a fairly [TS]

  empathetic person about this but i did [TS]

  not realize how deep [TS]

  something was in this election how deep [TS]

  some set of feelings and I think there's [TS]

  a variety of feelings i think just [TS]

  calling it racist or misogynistic is a [TS]

  little short-sighted there's something [TS]

  maybe even deeper than that going on [TS]

  here and I call that way wrong [TS]

  yeah and it's you know it is clearly i [TS]

  mean you know subtract white men [TS]

  and the election is a blowout for four [TS]

  pillar in the model but a lot of white [TS]

  women came out I i just really crazy [TS]

  bright their day and it's weird like [TS]

  what is the difference so why was the [TS]

  white whether your men or women angle so [TS]

  definitive here and not when the black [TS]

  guy was running the last two elections [TS]

  you know I mean like he know yeah you [TS]

  know I mean look at the margin look at [TS]

  the margins look at the margins and [TS]

  again about God listen to me I fucking [TS]

  hate myself i'm at the margins in the [TS]

  battleground states but look at the [TS]

  margins the the 08 12 and and Hillary [TS]

  margins and wilkes-barre [TS]

  I mean I don't that you pronounce it [TS]

  that's one that obama ran away with yeah [TS]

  it's it it will help many points [TS]

  Pennsylvania is gone blue since 92 [TS]

  I think it's crazy it's really really [TS]

  weird and and it's you know turnout was [TS]

  a phenomenal in Philadelphia you know it [TS]

  was you know there were you know I don't [TS]

  know if what you were watching you know [TS]

  you said you were watching CBS and CNN [TS]

  yeah but on on MSNBC that kept cutting [TS]

  to Philadelphia and they were showing [TS]

  like crazy long lines like North [TS]

  Carolina North Carolina you see a line [TS]

  where somebody takes the iphone right [TS]

  the important mode and walks along and [TS]

  you just see several hundred black [TS]

  people waiting to vote you're right [TS]

  clearly part of this one they do and [TS]

  they say like the whole percentage [TS]

  reporting well what if we don't know how [TS]

  many people have actually voted right [TS]

  but then you keep going like maybe maybe [TS]

  this is really gonna pull it out maybe [TS]

  North Carolina is going to be the one I [TS]

  think what they're gonna you know for [TS]

  whatever reason they're going to show I [TS]

  I think the results will show that the [TS]

  turnout in the middle of all these [TS]

  states where you know the rural areas [TS]

  that that that turnout was just [TS]

  phenomenal it and hasn't been even you [TS]

  know with you know you know in the obama [TS]

  election years it you know for whatever [TS]

  reason Trump turn these people out and [TS]

  it's you know I don't get it but it's [TS]

  there on any dashing bit did you and [TS]

  talk about one more thing that you're [TS]

  excited because you want to talk about [TS]

  I'm very happy to help if I can that's [TS]

  that that's that's the a truly through [TS]

  was there are no sixth and seventh rolls [TS]

  of brazilian steakhouse the ninth rule [TS]

  is you help a buddy with the read every [TS]

  word of god oh god oh it's a new sponsor [TS]

  a brand new company as well maybe you've [TS]

  heard of them i don't know you're juiced [TS]

  in so many artists in have you ever [TS]

  heard of a company called Squarespace [TS]

  squares Squarespace is that with it with [TS]

  an s it with an s Squarespace is you [TS]

  talkin about the single best place to go [TS]

  to have a website portfolio or an online [TS]

  store [TS]

  yeah that's exactly what ok i do you [TS]

  know why yes i do i I've heard of school [TS]

  yet yeah well you're more just in that i [TS]

  am i'm earning more just in yeah ive [TS]

  never heard of this company but you can [TS]

  start building your own website today [TS]

  because the president isn't desserts [TS]

  require credit card it does not but if [TS]

  you how's this code talk show that now [TS]

  they don't have the the it's just talk [TS]

  show but you'll get ten percent off [TS]

  whatever level you end up signing up at [TS]

  but you can sign up for free with no [TS]

  credit card use maybe you could start [TS]

  literally literally building your [TS]

  website today with squarespace going [TS]

  squarespace.com that what you're telling [TS]

  me if you have any notion in your head [TS]

  for hey that should be a website i can [TS]

  make a website that is blank and it [TS]

  could be e like you said a portfolio of [TS]

  your work [TS]

  it could be a store where you sell the [TS]

  crap that you make [TS]

  yeah it could be a blog could be a [TS]

  podcast could be anything [TS]

  yes if you just start by going to [TS]

  squarespace com you are almost certainly [TS]

  will have an easier time doing it then [TS]

  if you do it and any other way [TS]

  ah the siren benefit is there any [TS]

  benefit all signing up for a year I i [TS]

  think you get a free domain if he's your [TS]

  free domain name sign up for your free [TS]

  domain are you looking at this how you [TS]

  looking at my screen [TS]

  yes if I don't sign out around here like [TS]

  way to your home screen like that if you [TS]

  sign up for your dogs in the wrong flus [TS]

  you can get a free domain name [TS]

  ah so literally they cover everything [TS]

  from registering the domain name to the [TS]

  layout of your site the fonts the style [TS]

  the you know is that a portfolio site [TS]

  where you're showing the illustrations [TS]

  you make is that a store where you're [TS]

  selling t-shirts [TS]

  is it a blog is it a all that stuff you [TS]

  can set up visually they have every man [TS]

  what if I'm what if i want developer and [TS]

  I want to get my hands on the actual [TS]

  code is there any way that they have any [TS]

  provision for probably not because [TS]

  it'sit's Squarespace right they would [TS]

  have anything like a platform you would [TS]

  think that they wouldn't you would think [TS]

  it's all just you know you gotta click [TS]

  click click [TS]

  but the truth is Merlin this is amazing [TS]

  if you want to get in there and like you [TS]

  want to like write your own JavaScript [TS]

  code and put it in there you can do it [TS]

  you're actually the right right on the [TS]

  website you can do that right now [TS]

  website you can just get in there and [TS]

  and it insert your own code but the [TS]

  thing is with all these sites if I run [TS]

  into any kind of trouble i'm on my own [TS]

  is that correct [TS]

  it's like so good let's say I run into [TS]

  some kind of trouble maybe maybe I get [TS]

  confused maybe I i follow the wrong [TS]

  tutorial from my John circusy pan and I [TS]

  do my black backslashes the wrong way is [TS]

  there anybody that can help me put it on [TS]

  you would you know what you got what you [TS]

  got what they call it a greedy enumerate [TS]

  i would like to tell you accidentally [TS]

  eating your javascript is there any way [TS]

  that you can call i would like to tell [TS]

  you that you know i would like to say [TS]

  that you are correct because you're on [TS]

  the show and I don't want to embarrass [TS]

  you I would like [TS]

  yes you've got to your socket the truth [TS]

  is though they actually have [TS]

  twenty-four-hour-a-day real-time support [TS]

  you decide call them up and anyway [TS]

  contacting text them [TS]

  yeah but they've got people they [TS]

  position them around the world i [TS]

  literally i'm going to think about it [TS]

  talk to somebody important as anything [TS]

  that yeah me with that they're in [TS]

  portland there in Ireland they position [TS]

  these people strategically around the [TS]

  world so that when you need tech support [TS]

  if you need tech support you can get [TS]

  somebody on the horn [TS]

  it's like the doctor strange portals [TS]

  protecting the globe with these [TS]

  three equidistant points and they put an [TS]

  entire web of support over the earth and [TS]

  that senses away from Dormammu moon [TS]

  exactly that's amazing listen for what's [TS]

  called his name is service again it's [TS]

  called Squarespace an hour i think [TS]

  they're going places [TS]

  I think you're going to hear about him I [TS]

  think you I think I keep in mind if you [TS]

  have a notion for a website go to [TS]

  squarespace com remember the code talk [TS]

  show know that and you'll get ten [TS]

  percent off but you don't think I mean [TS]

  honestly you don't even need ten percent [TS]

  off just even if you forget the code [TS]

  just go there and sign up it it's it's a [TS]

  great service and it could be somebody [TS]

  in your life today who needs this site [TS]

  and they don't know what you do that's [TS]

  the thing ya know you do not want to be [TS]

  in the webmaster business you don't want [TS]

  to make it for preschool for your church [TS]

  group [TS]

  you don't want to be doing that you want [TS]

  to get out of that business where you've [TS]

  got to know the ssh login to be able to [TS]

  know you don't need to do that anymore [TS]

  tell your friends and your family about [TS]

  this site because it's perfect for [TS]

  somebody in your life [TS]

  yeah that's actually I mean you know I'm [TS]

  tongue-in-cheek on this whole thing [TS]

  where you know hard jumping in on this [TS]

  that's actually probably the single best [TS]

  advice about Squarespace is that keep in [TS]

  mind for people who don't listen to [TS]

  shows like the talk show because exactly [TS]

  like if your kids you know [TS]

  preschool or the church or whatever [TS]

  needs a website guaranteed that is a [TS]

  better idea than you jumping in and [TS]

  saying oh yeah I'll you know jump in and [TS]

  you know sh and then start a index dot [TS]

  HTML web you know it [TS]

  forget it just go to squarespace and cut [TS]

  yourself out of it totally traditions ok [TS]

  yourself out of it they're just got to [TS]

  run with that right but it's only true [TS]

  though [TS]

  oh um I think we're gonna get okay yeah [TS]

  i think you will too [TS]

  I am I share your interests in obsession [TS]

  with the whole idea of story [TS]

  let's talk about this i would i'm doing [TS]

  a new show the couple friends of mine [TS]

  were talking last week about that steve [TS]

  jobs lost interview that you can see on [TS]

  netflix and I was realizing i forgive me [TS]

  if you've heard this if you want 25 [TS]

  people listen that show but I i'm very [TS]

  interested in the idea of how Apple and [TS]

  steve jobs and pixar are so interesting [TS]

  the idea of story story about the [TS]

  company story as a as a thing that we [TS]

  create and I wasn't trying to make the [TS]

  case that apple also if you accept the [TS]

  notion that story is an abstraction [TS]

  layer their computers and their devices [TS]

  are stories to their taking out all of [TS]

  the inessential things and telling a [TS]

  great story with the minimum number of [TS]

  components needed to tell the story [TS]

  correctly so I'm thinking a lot about [TS]

  story and now today i'm thinking more [TS]

  about story because I just down i feel [TS]

  like with the with our president-elect [TS]

  right now you describe something earlier [TS]

  well is that is this a victory for him [TS]

  there's a victory for the party is it a [TS]

  defeat of the opposing party it's hard [TS]

  to know right now but the one thing i do [TS]

  feel that I need to learn more about [TS]

  before I try to do anything intelligent [TS]

  rational is to understand what stories [TS]

  he told whether they're true weather [TS]

  good weather accurate weather kind [TS]

  whether they're decent whether they're [TS]

  respectful whatever stories he's telling [TS]

  meant a lot to people and I think [TS]

  different parts of that story many [TS]

  things to different people and a lot of [TS]

  the folks in those red states found a [TS]

  way to overlook 125 terrible things [TS]

  about him because there is something [TS]

  about that story that work for them and [TS]

  the failure of imagination for me as i [TS]

  said here today is that I don't think I [TS]

  got that story well enough and I think [TS]

  like everybody else i missed it i don't [TS]

  know what's gonna change as a result of [TS]

  that but i don't know how i proceeded to [TS]

  do anything intelligently until I [TS]

  understand what I got wrong I don't [TS]

  point a finger [TS]

  I don't want to I don't want to yell at [TS]

  us nine I want to first understand like [TS]

  how i got it wrong and that's that's and [TS]

  I think I didn't get the story right [TS]

  yeah [TS]

  ah so I am of the opinion that in 2011 [TS]

  that you can yell ralph nader that Ralph [TS]

  Nader really fucked that one up [TS]

  and it you don't even want to get my [TS]

  wife you've probably heard doing because [TS]

  i think that one is she has a few hot [TS]

  button issues a hot-button issues and [TS]

  and Ralph Nader in 2000 as one of them [TS]

  is that Ralph Nader really fucked that [TS]

  one up at and I don't feel like this is [TS]

  that at all [TS]

  I i'm with you i don't have any [TS]

  animosity towards the third party [TS]

  candidates towards jill stein or a [TS]

  Joseon activity whatever the guy's name [TS]

  is that the park is connectivity [TS]

  yeah the guy who doesn't know where [TS]

  Aleppo is you know me and impose that [TS]

  brazilian restaurant in Philadelphia you [TS]

  know what that I think that's never [TS]

  that's the doctor is a 12th rule i love [TS]

  if you yellow you always get you get a [TS]

  sec let's get a fresh cut of the house [TS]

  sirloin you're like me and you're gonna [TS]

  heart that I don't fill up on the left [TS]

  this isn't that at all [TS]

  it's very different you know it's you [TS]

  know me you know I tweeted it I I you [TS]

  know what you know I dyed my it comes [TS]

  out on Twitter I tweet a lot looser than [TS]

  I blog and even on this show [TS]

  even you know I I'd you know I'm loser [TS]

  on Twitter then I am anywhere else and I [TS]

  tweeted before the i think it was even [TS]

  before [TS]

  yeah i think it was like two days ago [TS]

  but where where the Trump team had [TS]

  suggested that they're gonna you know [TS]

  point Rudy Giuliani as attorney general [TS]

  and could you could not put those [TS]

  announcements and Gingrich you could not [TS]

  have that in Mad Magazine have any [TS]

  possible and newt gingrich is Secretary [TS]

  of State and you know maybe that's [TS]

  actually you know at this point maybe [TS]

  that's going to come to pass and like [TS]

  you said they're being sounds like [TS]

  something that magazine but honest to [TS]

  god at least a there there's a certain [TS]

  honesty to it you know I mean like I i [TS]

  think it's preposterous i don't agree [TS]

  that I think it's terrible but if it [TS]

  at least they're saying this is how bad [TS]

  it's gonna be you know there are this is [TS]

  how you know you know I say bad but at [TS]

  least you know this is how you know that [TS]

  different [TS]

  how different is going to be mila i [TS]

  think so i think we can fairly say in a [TS]

  non-partisan way things are gonna be a [TS]

  little different for a while [TS]

  yes i do you think that's exactly right [TS]

  but there is an attempt to the video of [TS]

  obama high-fiving little kid dressed [TS]

  like Superman yeah then he fell down he [TS]

  he [TS]

  Superman high-five me fell back like he [TS]

  was really like the force of that little [TS]

  five-year-old kid knocked him over right [TS]

  I don't think it's that much of that [TS]

  anymore yeah now that i'm gonna really [TS]

  really miss that guy [TS]

  sorry I cut you off there now it's you [TS]

  know what I don't know where I was going [TS]

  you can edit this thing put it out on [TS]

  this is gonna help a lot of people I [TS]

  that's exactly what i want is I think [TS]

  you are probably one of the premier [TS]

  brazilian steak podcast that's available [TS]

  today I I don't know all of them [TS]

  the thing is we can scoop up everybody [TS]

  that's the thing we're going to be some [TS]

  people out of the Brazilians I'm you [TS]

  ever had the fried banana and a [TS]

  brazilian steakhouse shit dawg [TS]

  hell yeah it's and it here's what i [TS]

  thought the first time I went I was like [TS]

  yeah I'm not eating a fried banana that [TS]

  sounds like a legit [TS]

  that's the kitchen and that's how they [TS]

  get pretty damn good it's really good [TS]

  and next thing you know you're asking [TS]

  your guy the guy things are asking for [TS]

  more of the top sirloin or the bottom [TS]

  sirloin you know they've won 13 [TS]

  different cuts of steak and then I think [TS]

  you're gonna ask for that and you're [TS]

  like I know bring us another fried [TS]

  banana and they should serve it on the [TS]

  sword though it would be more fun [TS]

  they should banana sore i think i think [TS]

  because though I think the problem is [TS]

  you know that you know it's going to [TS]

  fall right off the store is going to cut [TS]

  right through it [TS]

  I agree you know did you get little [TS]

  tongs on the table when you go i'll [TS]

  always you gotta get the songs because [TS]

  we can participate a little bit i don't [TS]

  think they have to do that but i like [TS]

  the fact that most often they can get [TS]

  this look to go huh [TS]

  and you can grab your tongs and you [TS]

  helped with the rest of the way right [TS]

  they then cut about eighty percent of [TS]

  the way and yes you take your tongs and [TS]

  then they cut the rest of the way [TS]

  you take it a little later little slab [TS]

  of meat now I'm not want brazilian steak [TS]

  so i think america america needs I think [TS]

  that's what America needs America needs [TS]

  a brazilian state that's a really good [TS]

  way the stronger together you know I [TS]

  think it's something we could all use [TS]

  are you on detail you're gonna be okay [TS]

  I mean I mean after the holiday parties [TS]

  over but i mean like do you feel like I [TS]

  know it's probably too early to feel [TS]

  anything to coherently but anything [TS]

  you're you're thinking about going [TS]

  forward [TS]

  all I keep thinking is I i am upset i [TS]

  I've taken this very hard i am [TS]

  politically a very fascinated I've said [TS]

  this before but we're like when i first [TS]

  started thinking you know i should start [TS]

  writing a blog i had this name daring [TS]

  fireball in my pocket and I thought [TS]

  should I write about like Apple and text [TS]

  off or should I read about politics you [TS]

  know and it was it was like a 50-50 call [TS]

  for me in 2001 really was like wow I i [TS]

  really am that invested in this stuff or [TS]

  maybe sports did you ever consider [TS]

  sports sports sports is always up there [TS]

  now I'm not being time only very light [TS]

  I'm it it did but not as much because I [TS]

  didn't feel like it was is underserved I [TS]

  feel like okay and I felt like politics [TS]

  and and tech were underserved by smart [TS]

  commentary [TS]

  well we both we both got we both got [TS]

  lucky and if obviously you're way more [TS]

  successful and I was at this but we were [TS]

  both we had good timing at figuring out [TS]

  a pie slice of the pie slice like who [TS]

  would ever think somebody would want [TS]

  something about Mac productivity like [TS]

  you know most people don't want a mac [TS]

  site most people don't want a [TS]

  Productivity side who would want a mac [TS]

  productivity site that's bananas and in [TS]

  your case that there were not that many [TS]

  people out there doing what you're doing [TS]

  but you know the support it's a little [TS]

  more it totally true that but i will [TS]

  tell you and and and [TS]

  like previous elections you know again [TS]

  i'm glad that barack obama won the last [TS]

  2i was despondent and 2000-2004 when [TS]

  when george w bush one but this one to [TS]

  me I there's like I I don't just feel [TS]

  like my side loss i feel a guilt I feel [TS]

  like and I I you know meet you and I are [TS]

  almost identically aged white men [TS]

  straight white men with wives and and a [TS]

  kid you know and our kids are both what [TS]

  roughly ten years old my kids a little [TS]

  older years and a little younger [TS]

  we're almost the same guy we really are [TS]

  and and we make our living on the [TS]

  internet you know and what we've got a [TS]

  good right [TS]

  I I mean there's no denying it you and I [TS]

  have it really good and I really do feel [TS]

  that at at a basic level like I almost [TS]

  it's not even it's not even my right to [TS]

  feel bad about this one because in my [TS]

  people who blew it and that that I did [TS]

  true but there's another part of this [TS]

  that's part of what eats at me is that I [TS]

  have seen and agree with you like we [TS]

  need two white guys talking about [TS]

  anything except like I'm a white guy [TS]

  who's really pull right a lot of stuff [TS]

  to change regardless of like you know [TS]

  whatever applesauce my dick is in like I [TS]

  there's some stuff that means a lot to [TS]

  me and as I have had small and sometimes [TS]

  private little bits of evolution and how [TS]

  I think about the world [TS]

  I got a little myopic and thinking that [TS]

  other people saw the same thing and that [TS]

  they could be thrilled and buoyed to see [TS]

  people who never had a chance to be [TS]

  normal American citizens before get to [TS]

  do things in the last five years nobody [TS]

  could have expected [TS]

  I mean who saw the gay marriage then [TS]

  coming along the way it did well right [TS]

  people did and then it happened and [TS]

  you're like how can you look at that and [TS]

  see anything but joy the different [TS]

  people just got to be the person they [TS]

  want to be America is where you get to [TS]

  be the person that you want to be [TS]

  and that's why I got the hard part but [TS]

  it's even even worse even or especially [TS]

  as a white guy because no i don't have [TS]

  the I don't have the same i'm certainly [TS]

  i'm extremely privileged in so many ways [TS]

  i get to go where I want to go and all [TS]

  that kind of stuff but might my little [TS]

  miniature journey into understanding [TS]

  these little parts of America better and [TS]

  getting to see those people have these [TS]

  exalted moments of victory after years [TS]

  of being told that they aren't actual [TS]

  human being to see so much of that [TS]

  progress in the last five years and now [TS]

  see that in jeopardy hurts my heart in a [TS]

  way that's difficult for me to [TS]

  communicate [TS]

  I I feel exactly the same way I i ah I [TS]

  can't say better had this is why I'm [TS]

  glad you're on the show with me today [TS]

  and I really hope that whatever side of [TS]

  the election people who are listening to [TS]

  this are on that they they they can hear [TS]

  us and sympathize I I mean that I and in [TS]

  a way you know that like I for example i [TS]

  think my wife if if she were with it [TS]

  I don't think she listens know josho [TS]

  yeah so I think she'd be furious if she [TS]

  heard me saying that I'm you know I [TS]

  whichever side of the election because [TS]

  she thinks people who voted the other [TS]

  way or shitbags and she's not really [TS]

  she's not wrong [TS]

  oh no sure she's not wrong he's not [TS]

  wrong i got his time something I got [TS]

  schooled hard-on right by my friends [TS]

  show John siracusa and we were talking [TS]

  about things having to do with the way [TS]

  that women get treated by everybody and [TS]

  I found myself saying this thing that I [TS]

  don't say anymore [TS]

  this is a like less than a year ago but [TS]

  i found myself saying don't these people [TS]

  who are these good gamergate guys don't [TS]

  they realize that they're talking to [TS]

  somebody sister or they're talking to [TS]

  somebody's daughter and John I think [TS]

  very intelligently said hey you know is [TS]

  that really what the hell you want to [TS]

  die on you sure you want to put their [TS]

  importance of their humanity and writes [TS]

  in terms of how they relate to you and I [TS]

  thought about it for months and months [TS]

  and months and then I saw it happening a [TS]

  lot after the pussy grabbing and I [TS]

  thought about it a lot and now I think [TS]

  you have to want these things for people [TS]

  because they're people not because [TS]

  they're people that you've decided are [TS]

  particularly empathetic based on your [TS]

  own feelings and needs and that's where [TS]

  I think I do feel comfortable as I like [TS]

  saying that this is a shitshow because i [TS]

  have i I've gotten to see those [TS]

  victories I see it in my kids class i [TS]

  see it and the girl my kids class in a [TS]

  course I job [TS]

  I mean I you see it it is real this is [TS]

  not an abstract thing about a wall [TS]

  this is about actual human beings who [TS]

  worked extremely hard to make what they [TS]

  can hear and to see that potentially [TS]

  taken away in such a massive way if that [TS]

  doesn't move you you're not wired right [TS]

  i saw a thing we're just yesterday [TS]

  somebody posted on Twitter just manage [TS]

  the thousands of them you know maybe [TS]

  there's a thousand different pictures of [TS]

  the same thing but somebody posted [TS]

  yesterday a picture of a a white guy [TS]

  looked at you know maybe around [TS]

  somewhere around 27 years old white guy [TS]

  at a trump rally the day before the [TS]

  election and he was wearing a shirt that [TS]

  said Hillary is a bitch pound sign Trump [TS]

  so black letters Hillary is a bitch and [TS]

  then the hashtag ever seen red Trump and [TS]

  somebody you know just the observation [TS]

  was can you even imagine you know at how [TS]

  much worse is the misogyny that allows [TS]

  somebody to go out in public with the [TS]

  shirt like that because what would be [TS]

  the equivalent shirt against Obama right [TS]

  nobody would go out wearing a shirt with [TS]

  the n-word on it right i mean the Orang [TS]

  you know I say nobody but and it's you [TS]

  know maybe in this country a 300 million [TS]

  there's one guy who would do it but this [TS]

  this this wasn't like that we have [TS]

  forty-six percent of the population [TS]

  thinking it's okay [TS]

  right exactly there is something very [TS]

  different and there's no there's no [TS]

  there's no cultural prohibition against [TS]

  that that's pushing back to make him go [TS]

  maybe this isn't such a good idea and it [TS]

  makes me feel personally I even before [TS]

  the breeze and again this is like 48 [TS]

  hours ago this before the results but [TS]

  that that one tweet and the guy wearing [TS]

  that shirt that said that it it just [TS]

  emphasizes how I feel like this whole [TS]

  time [TS]

  I feel like I'm i need to step backwards [TS]

  and let other people tell me what is [TS]

  going on rather than observed myself in [TS]

  home you know what I mean like I could [TS]

  do you view we have you have to like [TS]

  shut the fuck up right at the time when [TS]

  somebody is telling you something you [TS]

  need to hear and then increasingly I'm [TS]

  coming around the idea of how important [TS]

  is to speak up when somebody's doing the [TS]

  opposite [TS]

  exactly like I the only time I feel that [TS]

  I didn't need to speak up is to observe [TS]

  like for example to say it is to me [TS]

  literally I'm not exaggerating [TS]

  unacceptable to wear a shirt that says [TS]

  hillary's a bitch [TS]

  it's completely unacceptable it really [TS]

  it to me is as unacceptable as saying [TS]

  obama is the n-word it's that it [TS]

  equivalent yet we're not there is a [TS]

  society so i'm i'm willing to stand up [TS]

  and say that but in terms of you know [TS]

  how we got this election result I I just [TS]

  feel like I [TS]

  feel like I [TS]

  you know I don't know I don't know [TS]

  either huh [TS]

  I tell you what the other thing too and [TS]

  I think we're in the same boat here with [TS]

  like I said like with two kids who at [TS]

  this point like when we first had our [TS]

  kids I felt like they were so far apart [TS]

  made right now i know i know it was like [TS]

  that last night Ellie was pointed some [TS]

  stuff because she was feeling pretty [TS]

  wrap and she found that little bird [TS]

  generous giver and use it if it was like [TS]

  it was like maybe there's like a little [TS]

  baby in a big baby [TS]

  yeah it was like well it's like you know [TS]

  when but it at this point there it feels [TS]

  like they are both quote-unquote about [TS]

  10 years old but then that's a loose [TS]

  approximation I have to say [TS]

  honest to god and and we we don't like [TS]

  it we haven't indoctrinated Jonas with [TS]

  politics we haven't you know it like you [TS]

  know we don't make him talk about it we [TS]

  don't make him think about it he just [TS]

  absorbs what he picks up i have to say [TS]

  he is devastated is absolutely [TS]

  devastated and and the kids a you know [TS]

  again maybe it's because we're in the [TS]

  city and it's an urban environment but [TS]

  the kids today are so open minded kids [TS]

  today like he and I mean he's got like [TS]

  it's it's it's I mean unbelievably [TS]

  different you're my daughter does not [TS]

  need to be school that it's it's ok for [TS]

  gay people to be together [TS]

  I mean it's everywhere it's the teachers [TS]

  at her school [TS]

  it's it's I mean that's where we live [TS]

  this is like these are our friends [TS]

  I these ionic and you would be like [TS]

  saying her you know p shouldn't punch [TS]

  people in the face just because I [TS]

  wearing a blue shirt like yeah of course [TS]

  not like why did you need to tell me [TS]

  that well I just say no it's okay if gay [TS]

  people are I I've said this before [TS]

  iie and I think you listen to my show so [TS]

  you think maybe you've heard it but I i [TS]

  think is the most amazing [TS]

  Jonas school has a club and it's called [TS]

  glow GL 0 W and then and it stands for [TS]

  gay lesbian or whatever and to me it is [TS]

  the greatest it's so much better [TS]

  an LGBT and then you know they keep you [TS]

  know there's q and q IA yeah [TS]

  qi gay lesbian or whatever is to me [TS]

  that's the actual name [TS]

  no it's literally the name it's [TS]

  officially named I'm not making it up [TS]

  I just don't actually wear the efficient [TS]

  happen but nobody but like he doesn't [TS]

  think it's funny air or clever and all [TS]

  that's literally but it it actually is [TS]

  what everybody of his generation seems [TS]

  to think is like wow we have but you [TS]

  know whatever you're into your into what [TS]

  cool you know it's alright what why [TS]

  would that matter to me and it's like me [TS]

  worrying about you having a train car [TS]

  but this election result is such a [TS]

  repudiation of that or whatever part [TS]

  right [TS]

  that'sthat's yeah and inexperience [TS]

  getting and the kids get it [TS]

  the kids do there's no there's no [TS]

  denying it there's a mean and it's it's [TS]

  not just like the video of the Latino [TS]

  girl saying to Hillary Clinton I'm [TS]

  worried that my mom parents are going to [TS]

  be deported and you know Hillary says [TS]

  come here you know I'm gonna do whatever [TS]

  I can [TS]

  it's not it it's all kids it doesn't [TS]

  matter what their background is all kids [TS]

  see it and it really i don't know what [TS]

  to do [TS]

  I'd really done it it's it's the most [TS]

  lost I've ever felt as as a parent [TS]

  yeah i agree with you i mean I it's so [TS]

  early I think it's at a time when you're [TS]

  not sure what's going on you're feeling [TS]

  antsy you know I think the advice to not [TS]

  panic is is a good one I mean it's hard [TS]

  not to but i think on some level you [TS]

  kind of got to just you gotta just feel [TS]

  your way through and now we've gotten [TS]

  through a lot of stuff and we'll go [TS]

  through a lot of stuff in the future me [TS]

  the inspiration to say here except that [TS]

  like you just you've got to keep your [TS]

  cool keep doing the right thing and [TS]

  tried try not to be unkind like right [TS]

  now there's there's a lot of people want [TS]

  after each other and there's a real vibe [TS]

  of telling feels like there's the [TS]

  beginnings of a vibe of finger-pointing [TS]

  and there's a big vibe and you know [TS]

  that's your thing you know [TS]

  Hakuna Matata but like I let's I would [TS]

  feel like if I had [TS]

  one thing to ask let's go easy on that [TS]

  for a while and let's go easy on and [TS]

  tearing each other apart or chanting [TS]

  other people apart and let's maybe just [TS]

  have least couple three days where we [TS]

  don't tell people that they're feeling [TS]

  wronged incorrectly or they're feeling [TS]

  bad wrongly that's let's let people have [TS]

  a time to grieve for whatever it is [TS]

  you're grieving for even if you don't [TS]

  think they deserve it [TS]

  i I'd that's exactly how I feel and I [TS]

  don't want again I don't want to point [TS]

  any fingers [TS]

  I really don't i mean i just want to say [TS]

  keep pushing in the right direction and [TS]

  and forget about it it's so hard because [TS]

  we're at as as mechanical devices human [TS]

  beings are meant to see everything day [TS]

  by day hour by hour moment by moment but [TS]

  the truth is you know in the long term [TS]

  what matters is you know on the years [TS]

  you know the years and decades [TS]

  perspective and just keep pushing in the [TS]

  right direction and it will work out [TS]

  even though this is clearly as setback [TS]

  and what I really do think that it's [TS]

  it's not right at counterproductive to [TS]

  to start pointing fingers [TS]

  well let's check back in after a while I [TS]

  gotta going to pick up my kids to my [TS]

  holiday party holiday party did you get [TS]

  the invitation [TS]

  yeah I've got to be joining you Merlin [TS]

  and where else can we listen to you you [TS]

  are the in my opinion probably the [TS]

  single greatest podcaster it on the [TS]

  Internet [TS]

  we're always you're always saying that [TS]

  no I but I actually mean that you're [TS]

  really you have a good bizarre gift for [TS]

  being really good is our gift declares [TS]

  John Gruber yeah I don't know I just [TS]

  don't fucking know at this point [TS]

  tell me very good branding just go to [TS]

  hot dogs ladies if you want to see me on [TS]

  twitter i'm kinda quiet right now go two [TS]

  hot dogs ladies on twitter you should do [TS]

  you know they should do they should [TS]

  listen to the show i do with the [TS]

  Chancellor acusa to show Jon Stark is [TS]

  called reconcile [TS]

  differences never happen never heard of [TS]

  it that really die femslash rd never had [TS]

  that was this guy John siracusa i don't [TS]

  know i think he might be an Italian I [TS]

  don't know if he's really we're gonna [TS]

  build a big beautiful wall with Napoli [TS]

  and we're gonna make the Italians pay [TS]

  for that spicy meatball that intent [TS]