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0:00:41continuing our 90 hours of coverage of

0:00:43Star Wars Episode 7 the force awakens

0:00:45i'm jason l i'm joined by three people

0:00:48who are going to help me break down the

0:00:50second teaser trailer for Star Wars

0:00:52Episode 7 and we promise to keep it

0:00:56under 10 hours joining be to break it

0:00:59all down

0:01:00I wouldn't do without him it's john

0:01:02siracusa hello I'm ready again Jason I'm

0:01:05are these things they get a release

0:01:07I I know what you I don't probably more

0:01:09probably don't act like that first one

0:01:11was it that was I felt like we had done

0:01:13everything and then they gonna make a

0:01:15movie too

0:01:16well this is official teaser to which

0:01:17means presumably there's also going to

0:01:19be a trailer

0:01:20wow yeah yeah that's what you heard

0:01:24coming to us live from a moving vehicle

0:01:25at serenity Caldwell hello hello I'm

0:01:29really excited to actually get to talk

0:01:31about Oh what star wars new new Star

0:01:35Wars although i think seriously the

0:01:37first time I couldn't talk it was

0:01:39because i was in a moving vehicle as

0:01:40well except this one this time I have a

0:01:43lot of mikes so I guess that makes a

0:01:45little dinner you refuse to be

0:01:47constrained by space and time this time

0:01:49correct i am in my tiredness bar

0:01:52yes so so if if she sounds strange it at

0:01:55any point that is why but will we will

0:01:57make the best of it

0:01:58likewise in the true spirit of flash

0:02:00casting coming to us from a strange

0:02:02location on an iphone from the star wars

0:02:05celebration itself or at least nearby

0:02:07it's a it's our our roving Star Wars

0:02:10correspondent Dan Morgan hi Dan

0:02:12hello Jason pleasure to be with you it's

0:02:16a it's good it's good to have you here

0:02:18you got to you got to see this all in

0:02:19person today didn't you

0:02:20I get it was pretty pretty freaking

0:02:23awesome as Oscar Isaac might say yeah

0:02:25yeah so that was that was quite the

0:02:27treat that I didn't have to come back

0:02:28then and we watched the trailer couple

0:02:30times on my iPad because I missed a lot

0:02:33of stuff with all the screaming I can

0:02:36understand that that was my screaming by

0:02:38the way just listen to the not to that

0:02:39died so I i want to ask about the ground

0:02:43rules here

0:02:44I know that they mentioned a few tiny

0:02:47little tidbits in the panel today that

0:02:49they aren't in the trailer

0:02:51John should we pretend that they didn't

0:02:54do that or what don't want to know those

0:02:57things okay

0:02:57more specifically they they discuss the

0:03:00location of the desert planet that

0:03:02appears in the trailer

0:03:04Arrakis yeah well I mean I planet

0:03:07I I thought they confirmed whether or

0:03:08whether or not or or not it's Tatooine

0:03:11do you care

0:03:12I probably did it instrumental to our

0:03:15conversation that this be revealed what

0:03:17I'm going to take one for the team but I

0:03:18feel like now I don't know otherwise I i

0:03:21get what i'm going to say is we just we

0:03:22should probably refer to it as that

0:03:24desert planet then since it's in

0:03:26determining whether this is tattooing or

0:03:28not from John's perspective even though

0:03:30the rest of us know all right the desert

0:03:33planet we will call it because it's

0:03:35probably all doesn't really last time we

0:03:36talked and warranties and just assumed

0:03:39it was yeah yeah we can continue to talk

0:03:42about in that way if that makes you feel

0:03:44comfortable

0:03:45yeah well they asked they asked JJ

0:03:47Abrams definitively if it is tattooing

0:03:50and we got a definitive answer so rather

0:03:53than you know I I don't wanna I don't

0:03:55want to spoil you on it so I figured we

0:03:56should just say that everybody else to

0:03:58host the definitive answer and we're

0:04:00just gonna dance around it

0:04:02well for everybody else to the Internet

0:04:04yes if you still don't know you can

0:04:06check the internet yea i meant much

0:04:08information is available on the Internet

0:04:10alright so so let's see how do we do

0:04:15this on Thanksgiving morning I their

0:04:17frame by frame

0:04:18I i like the fact that as soon as the

0:04:20trailer dropped we got a lot of demand

0:04:22for many many hours of frame-by-frame

0:04:26analysis so let's start at the beginning

0:04:29which is a it does a sandy desert planet

0:04:33with a vehicle streaking along is who is

0:04:36writing it we don't know it could be

0:04:38Luke Skywalker on a landspeeder it could

0:04:40be Captain Kirk on his motorbike from

0:04:42Star Trek it looks like the refrigerator

0:04:44car from the first season yeah I think

0:04:46that's what it is i would agree that

0:04:48that it's Daisy Ridley riding the

0:04:50refrigerator car that we saw that this

0:04:52is immediately following that when she

0:04:53takes off right could be a water heater

0:04:55to be anything could be anything really

0:04:58yeah and the thing in the foreground

0:04:59originally when I saw the trailer very

0:05:01small i misread it as like again think

0:05:05its Tatooine at like one of those

0:05:07moisture vaporators that had tipped over

0:05:09but of course on second viewing I

0:05:10realize it's actually an x-wing I took

0:05:13me until the home doing to realize that

0:05:15because the tube replays in the in the

0:05:17main auditorium there I was not focused

0:05:19on that at all

0:05:20yeah I when watching on my iPad later

0:05:22was like oh that's totally x-wing that's

0:05:24half buried in say an old-fashioned

0:05:26x-wing there are many yet crashing

0:05:29vehicles this trailer

0:05:30yeah you might have missed the crashed

0:05:33x-wing in the foreground owing to the

0:05:35fact that there is a crashed star

0:05:37destroyer in the background

0:05:40Shh so awesome

0:05:43the most beautiful matte painting when i

0:05:45watch trailer with my son and I asked

0:05:47him what what things stood out there

0:05:49were at our guitars we're talking about

0:05:50the Star Destroyer and he said well

0:05:53maybe in the battle at the end of Return

0:05:55of the Jedi some of the start of stores

0:05:57crashed and i said well if they crash

0:05:59they wouldn't have crashed on Tatooine

0:06:01was that was far away from where the

0:06:03battles taking place but now but

0:06:06presumably there may have been other

0:06:07battles we don't have a nice LOL you

0:06:08don't get there's this the Empire was

0:06:11defeated all over the galaxy in this

0:06:13battle so you know as we see from later

0:06:16in the trailer sometime is fast so

0:06:19presumably there will be more battles

0:06:21also just just to throw it out there

0:06:24the destruction of the death star could

0:06:26have rain down fiery death on the moon

0:06:28of Endor transforming it into a desert

0:06:30planet yet possible entirely possible

0:06:33presence speculation have a lot of sad

0:06:36he walks a lot of city wok music we had

0:06:39a whole forest we're so excited that we

0:06:40won and then all of our foliage was

0:06:42destroyed only the desert he walks

0:06:44survived the villains of episode

0:06:46generally actually are actually fairly

0:06:47walks elbows are jobless the job was in

0:06:51the desert

0:06:51yeah they have the same language they

0:06:53will say obtaining routine that's true

0:06:55kini that's that's a good point the the

0:06:58I do think it's impressive looking at

0:07:00the start crashed our destroyer that

0:07:03that it must have been coming in fairly

0:07:05slow right because otherwise it would

0:07:07have broken into a million pieces so

0:07:09that somebody in the chatroom just

0:07:11that good job Star Destroyer pilot you

0:07:14did kind of as good as we could expect I

0:07:17guess I've been like a long slow slide

0:07:19yeah or could have actually kind of just

0:07:22landed and slowly sunk into the sand and

0:07:24fall into disrepair

0:07:25maybe it's one of those things maybe a

0:07:26day this Star Destroyer that landed on

0:07:29this planet to refuel or something and

0:07:31either got taken over or abandoned it's

0:07:34just yeah

0:07:35unka hunk of abandoned metal i was going

0:07:38to say that thing that stood out to me

0:07:39about it was that my only link we only

0:07:43ever get star destroyers really in space

0:07:45where the relative scale is very

0:07:48different even in the first movie where

0:07:49we get the scale against the spaceship

0:07:51I guess the Tennessee for we get a you

0:07:54know only in relative to like other

0:07:55objects that might be in space so seeing

0:07:57it relative to like the ground is

0:08:00actually makes it to my mind that much

0:08:02more impressive how large it is behind

0:08:05big sand dunes very large maybe it's

0:08:09really close to us i don't like well

0:08:10there's some heat him some haze right

0:08:12that there is a maid to get that to get

0:08:14the the distance right there there's no

0:08:16haze to the x-wing but there's a lot of

0:08:18hay is back behind to the Star Destroyer

0:08:19can we just talk for a second about how

0:08:22beautiful I'm sure it's a cgi matte

0:08:24painting but just how gorgeous that

0:08:26initial shot is because i want that for

0:08:29my desktop and I haven't wanted a star

0:08:31wars photo for my desktop probably since

0:08:34I got my Ralph McQuarrie like my those

0:08:37paintings but that initial opening image

0:08:40is just so evocative of Star Wars it

0:08:43makes me so happy and it's evocative of

0:08:45an after Star Wars like because that's

0:08:47what the series is about it like if you

0:08:50think about you know the prequels are

0:08:51whatever right and then you've got the

0:08:53the main star wars movies and those are

0:08:55about a battle and things are dirty in

0:08:58the future but there's a lot of battle

0:09:00you don't get a lot of aftermath this is

0:09:02kind of one big story about a war and

0:09:04this is so clearly son of like it's the

0:09:06reconstruction error like after war o

0:09:09people are still around but a bunch of

0:09:10crap is broken and it's hanging around

0:09:12to remind you

0:09:13oh yeah there was a war was a good

0:09:15choice of words John because i believe

0:09:16they announced that the first novel that

0:09:18light sort of the new novel that's

0:09:20rebooting the

0:09:22you know star wars books is called

0:09:23aftermath yeah Chuck win big step though

0:09:27yeah I have fallout seems to be sort of

0:09:28the theme here right like that there's

0:09:30you know as John saying like in this was

0:09:32in the same way that this is a

0:09:34university has always been used and

0:09:36weathered you know there is an element

0:09:38of is going to continue to be so and JJ

0:09:41from spread distress that why i like

0:09:42that you know in terms of looking at the

0:09:45universe one of the things he loves

0:09:46about the original movies how they

0:09:48looked so whether it lived in man his

0:09:51love for practical effects which got him

0:09:53a lot of applause from the audience

0:09:54there what else anything else we want to

0:09:57talk about about the about the this this

0:10:00shot the CIA it is i mean i didn't have

0:10:03that Captain Kirk moment because there

0:10:05is a similar shot in JJ Abrams 2009 star

0:10:08trek and which is fine i like that the

0:10:11the refrigerator cars have been along

0:10:13and we've got this the sense of fallout

0:10:15that there was a big war between the

0:10:17Empire and there and the Rebel Alliance

0:10:18and you know it

0:10:20war is messy and there's just there's

0:10:21potentially just junk laying around from

0:10:24when the war was over and the shot do

0:10:27you think of is this then assembling the

0:10:28enterprise on earth yeah whether there's

0:10:31that there's that whole sequence that's

0:10:32his like Luke Skywalker moment in star

0:10:35trek 2009 when when when when he's

0:10:37riding his motorcycle and there's the

0:10:39dust trail and then he pulls up and sees

0:10:42the enterprise there yeah although i

0:10:44think the composition here i really

0:10:45enjoyed the pan reveal because it does

0:10:48take ok we're focusing on this little

0:10:50thing that's flying across there in it

0:10:51ok there's a thing in the view ok the

0:10:53x-wing ok there's a giant star to star

0:10:55there so it's really i think it's a

0:10:57beautiful shot just in its kinetic

0:10:58motion to as we sort of gradually reveal

0:11:01this whole scenery

0:11:03yeah the dune that's right next to the

0:11:06Star Destroyer is the same shade as a

0:11:07starter story so just click the doing

0:11:09just literally changing color and then

0:11:11the doing as like a big Craig Lee spot

0:11:13and like that's no dune it's a spaceship

0:11:16yeah all right let's move on what

0:11:21whenever we hear things go black we hear

0:11:23Luke Skywalker say the force is strong

0:11:26and in in my family my father has it and

0:11:30we see instant done

0:11:32a burned-out brick Darth Vader mask

0:11:36thinking red he was at you know and

0:11:41seeing a couple times again rewatching

0:11:42it on the smaller screen it's like a

0:11:45missile is like a presentation going on

0:11:48here oh yeah it's being presented use it

0:11:50on a pedestal sorry I'm it's a it's a

0:11:52presentation thing that we're were you

0:11:56know it's a great like a crane shot or

0:11:58something or it's or its being yes

0:12:00something isn't presented yeah it's not

0:12:02that it was dug up it was like it it's

0:12:04being stored somewhere i feel like i'm

0:12:06like almost like a museum piece

0:12:07yeah my question is they you know did

0:12:12they burn it and then take it out of the

0:12:13fire and now it's made of tough stuff

0:12:15off

0:12:15well I mean I don't know if it's even on

0:12:18a pedestal or for looking kind of like

0:12:20secret Luke Skywalker cave with momentum

0:12:23with mementos and he just happens to its

0:12:25shaped himself a steel pedestal for for

0:12:30the mementos of his life

0:12:31it could just be a small table and end

0:12:34table that looks great on an empty right

0:12:37it's a it's a conversation starter i

0:12:38really had together

0:12:41so tell me about the mask well my dad

0:12:45everybody has their chocolate my dad

0:12:47board or this mask when he killed a lot

0:12:49of people and they died in it wanted to

0:12:51rule the galaxy with me as father and

0:12:53son that didn't work out but in the end

0:12:54we can we patched things I burned his

0:12:56body and then when that the fire went

0:13:00out we retrieved them burn mask

0:13:03I think it's more likely that this is

0:13:05evil people retrieved it was a totem of

0:13:08the dark side of the force and somebody

0:13:10said either sign of that of your crazy

0:13:13planet Syria it being and/or you know it

0:13:19is that it is a very evil looking at

0:13:21table so it was from the darkside ikea

0:13:23not the light and instructions are

0:13:26really inscrutable and they always make

0:13:29it take out one screw

0:13:30I know they don't like it that if I

0:13:33wondered if this was like giving just

0:13:36you know we saw the shot in conjunction

0:13:37with Luke's voiceover but i also have

0:13:39the impression that let me was holding

0:13:41on to for some reason we hear Luke

0:13:44Skywalker and he's saying something

0:13:45that's

0:13:46not new it also gives us into the fact

0:13:49that i feel like the events of the these

0:13:52movies are tied so strongly to the

0:13:54events of the previous movie like it's

0:13:55not just you know we saw a lot of new

0:13:57characters obviously the first teaser we

0:13:59see a lot here but it also implies you

0:14:02know there's a really close I to be the

0:14:04sort of the sky walker family right like

0:14:06that is still very active here right

0:14:09we're not leaving all that behind and

0:14:10moving on just to focus on like entirely

0:14:13new character

0:14:14yeah this is the suggestion here is very

0:14:16strong but by quoting this dialogue what

0:14:18Luke is doing is talking to somebody in

0:14:21his family who is strong with the force

0:14:23question is probably is it his family or

0:14:28is it latest family

0:14:29I'm inclined to believe it looks

0:14:33yeah like that was another question I

0:14:34just got to my son who is he talking to

0:14:36when he says that because he's talking

0:14:37to somebody

0:14:38presumably who I and and then uh my son

0:14:42said well it's obvious it's obviously

0:14:44Luke's child and I said well looks

0:14:46traveled who's the mother and he hadn't

0:14:48thought of that and he didn't really

0:14:49have an answer and I don't know either

0:14:50because I don't know anything about to

0:14:51be but it's it sounds like he's giving

0:14:54his is sort of you know now it's my now

0:14:56it's the time when you learn about the

0:14:57facts of life one of them axes you

0:14:59probably got the force so I mean 30

0:15:01years on in 30 years on he probably made

0:15:03met somebody nice and settled down and

0:15:05had a kid so you know I think there's a

0:15:06lot of opportunity in there for him to

0:15:08have plant leucas layer are brother and

0:15:10sister so Luke's Family we can't say

0:15:11Luke's Family and last family they're

0:15:13the same family there are you don't

0:15:15necessarily feel like our the idea

0:15:17layers children

0:15:18yeah what's interesting to me because

0:15:21obviously the entire EU has been thrown

0:15:24out officially and it's not canon

0:15:26anymore but you know as someone who

0:15:28deeply deeply red and love you there are

0:15:33you know latest latest family played a

0:15:35pretty big role in that and in terms of

0:15:38the romances we have seen in the

0:15:40original trilogy it's not out of its not

0:15:44out of the question that we might be

0:15:46talking about last daughter or son but I

0:15:51I do feel like it's an interesting

0:15:52choice to have you

0:15:54deliver it but then again looks the Jedi

0:15:56Master so i don't know i'm i'm so

0:15:59conflicted so many conflicting emotions

0:16:02yes I mean we don't see him here either

0:16:04but I you know I think we probably will

0:16:06get them we're gonna salt in the trailer

0:16:09that's a question that's an open

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0:17:44uncomfortable so we move to the next

0:17:46scene and it is a fiery something

0:17:49there's some some members coming off of

0:17:51off of something fiery r2d2 is sitting

0:17:54looking at the fiery thing and a hooded

0:17:57figure with a metal hand

0:17:59and places it on r2d2 could this be Luke

0:18:03Skywalker I think that's the implication

0:18:05could be anybody could be anybody

0:18:07I am I choose to believe ninety-nine

0:18:10percent that it is luke skywalker

0:18:12because i love the idea of lucan are to

0:18:16being that you know with again wizened

0:18:19old Jedi Lucas become a recluse of sorts

0:18:22and is hanging out with his droid buddy

0:18:26in the middle of the swamp essential but

0:18:28why why doesn't he have ye have a middle

0:18:30and that's what I want like it in the

0:18:31skin fell off over the years he always

0:18:33had a metal and it's just white heat if

0:18:36you think you've never prayed he seems

0:18:38like he's not became a recluse right

0:18:40like a cartoon looks a little beat up to

0:18:41right yeah if he decided to run away

0:18:44from the world for whatever reason he

0:18:47wouldn't exactly have access to back to

0:18:48tanks and fancy medical droids of course

0:18:51the creepy internet you know sort of

0:18:53suggestion there also is that it if he

0:18:55starts to also look a lot more like

0:18:56anakin you know with the creepy metal

0:18:58hand so there's a you know looking a

0:19:01certain amount of darth vader and as

0:19:02we've just seen in the previous shot ya

0:19:05know I the reason I thought it wasn't

0:19:06Luke is because his arm looks skinny

0:19:08yeah he does what he is going to come

0:19:10down to that looks like a 18 to 24 year

0:19:13old not like you know it looks like a

0:19:16young man a young man's arm and you

0:19:18can't tell from that you have something

0:19:19about the hood dark hood and light

0:19:21sleeve mismatch to i also thought was a

0:19:23lot if you want to get a picky

0:19:25why stop now well I mean the dark hood

0:19:28symbolizing the dark side of the rest

0:19:31more like will be wide dark dark local

0:19:33light shirt it's the mixture of the two

0:19:36I don't know how this fashion could've

0:19:38changed in 30 years i don't know i like

0:19:40the idea that potentially Luke you know

0:19:43isn't wearing the he's embraced his

0:19:46robot arm numbness and there's no way

0:19:49just one more assignment just closer to

0:19:52his father if that if that is Luke it's

0:19:55just kind of like in a galaxy like that

0:19:57he's I mean look at his shirts dirty

0:19:58everything's dirty it's just like well

0:20:00the skin started to fall off after a

0:20:01while and I didn't want to go back into

0:20:03most Eisley or wherever to get fixed and

0:20:05so living out in the woods as many years

0:20:07guess what all the skin is gone but

0:20:09and you can see my robot and barely

0:20:11possible but like I said that arm looks

0:20:13skinny to me and like he looks like kind

0:20:14of like he's doing like a Vulcan

0:20:15mind-meld with it was through their

0:20:17supposed to be either pat him gently but

0:20:18it's like is he going to fix something

0:20:20inside his brain magically which made me

0:20:23wonder if there was like a if it could

0:20:25be like a feeling trying to get

0:20:26information out of our to that was sort

0:20:28of the thing I felt like the first time

0:20:29I saw because I agree didn't look at the

0:20:31movie looked a little threatening right

0:20:33and so he's by a campfire I guess

0:20:35something that gives off members at

0:20:36first I thought he might've been a lava

0:20:38planet but I'm like no those that love

0:20:39doesn't give up members i don't think i

0:20:41was so 2000 John I know just trying to

0:20:45you know identify the planets yeah it's

0:20:47a fun it's a fire of some kind whether

0:20:49it's a campfire or not I can't see any

0:20:50s'mores there but it's not your type of

0:20:53campfire I'm sad that I can't really

0:20:56walk it right this second because of the

0:20:57information driving because what i

0:20:59thought i mean i watch the trailer for

0:21:00probably 15 times this afternoon maybe

0:21:04more

0:21:04I and it seemed very sweet like very

0:21:07much like a sweet gesture to me not a

0:21:09sinister gesture but maybe maybe I just

0:21:11can't see anything involving our to you

0:21:13as a sinister scene but uh we'll see

0:21:16i'll i have to go back and re-watch it

0:21:18out i think the trailer implies that

0:21:20this is Luke but it might not be but I

0:21:22think the trailer is absolutely trying

0:21:24to imply it right when we mentioned my

0:21:26father we see Darth Vader when we when

0:21:27we mention submission me

0:21:30we see this hand we mention this sister

0:21:31we see what looks like a woman handing a

0:21:34lightsaber to somebody in the next scene

0:21:36right I handing over a lightsaber

0:21:39ok so i have a climate issue which is it

0:21:43this looks to my eyes to be Anakin's

0:21:46original white and the blue cat in star

0:21:48wars empire strikes back with lots are

0:21:51tumbling into the gas clouds of best

0:21:53bitter want some senior think so

0:21:56somebody went down and coming I guess I

0:21:59have to find my lightsaber on these

0:22:01things

0:22:02the force is strong with that lightsaber

0:22:06no I am I am 99.5 percent short that is

0:22:09in fact that looks kind of Anakin's

0:22:12original lightsaber and Luke's

0:22:14lightsaber for a new hope

0:22:17yeah either that one or 10 or its want

0:22:20to say matters it is identical but all

0:22:23lightsabers are not all lightsabers are

0:22:25unique in theory according to you know I

0:22:28get you

0:22:29so I guess it could all you know maybe

0:22:30they just make identical lightsabers now

0:22:32about that said mom I mean I don't think

0:22:35they would do

0:22:35there's no reason they were making

0:22:36identical problem is it was like rebuilt

0:22:38for nostalgic reasons it does look

0:22:39pretty shiny but now that's the one

0:22:40having built both that lightsaber and

0:22:42Darth Vader's lightsaber out of Lego I

0:22:44spend a while studying them and i'm

0:22:46pretty sure that's so then the question

0:22:47becomes of course why why is that

0:22:51lightsaber here and why is that why is a

0:22:53female hand again apparently to wait

0:22:56another few minutes I'll hands so the

0:22:58question is like is either one of the

0:22:59sets of hands Carrie Fisher I can't

0:23:01really tell

0:23:02I don't think the one-handed an office

0:23:04Carrie Fisher the one receiving it might

0:23:06be but it's hard to say that seems like

0:23:08the suggestion again based on the

0:23:10framing and based on the voiceover but

0:23:12you know we've been it's unclear right

0:23:16they deliberately or not she's wearing

0:23:18of some sort

0:23:19they deliberately are not like you know

0:23:20panting up to her face obviously so

0:23:22we're left with some position

0:23:24alright anything more to say about

0:23:25handing over a lightsaber well there's

0:23:27significant 72 and i won't go into

0:23:29details you know miners they may be

0:23:31mentioned during the panel today but

0:23:34like it does look as though me like

0:23:36something is being you know turned over

0:23:38almost like it was found maybe I don't

0:23:41know maybe it was on it maybe was on an

0:23:43end table 8 x coordinate is helping

0:23:45interesting look at Walker's private at

0:23:47predator captive strange oddities now I

0:23:50you know the one thing i will say that

0:23:52really got me excited

0:23:53those are definitely female hands and

0:23:55there's something really exciting about

0:23:57seeing women hands and lightsabers

0:24:00because that's not we really haven't

0:24:02seen female Jedi or aside from you know

0:24:04in animation so the drama and stuff

0:24:09potential female Jedi gets me very

0:24:11excited they were in the prequels don't

0:24:13agree with this but yes but not much is

0:24:15not much to do

0:24:16that's not to think about it yeah I'm

0:24:18I'm excluding the prequels because to me

0:24:20honestly I'm I'm ready to forget they

0:24:23haven't

0:24:23we've done those podcasts and looks like

0:24:27there might be two runs in the

0:24:27background there it's kind of hard to

0:24:29tell

0:24:29look sir droids are just focus yeah and

0:24:32like so even though we can't see the

0:24:34people's faces you get the impression of

0:24:35the person who's receiving the

0:24:37lightsaber is looking down at it like

0:24:39you know there's an angle that maybe

0:24:42they're not just hand each others like I

0:24:43found the end table put it away like

0:24:44it's you know like like dances like a

0:24:46handoff of like there's no ever wanted

0:24:49you to have this or we found this or

0:24:50whatever yeah one that's also it's sort

0:24:52of painting up like this is a a smaller

0:24:54person giving it to a much taller person

0:24:56so although I again the context of the

0:24:58trailer would have you believe this is

0:25:00Princess Leia handing her father's

0:25:02lightsaber to the next generation

0:25:05it could very easily be something

0:25:06completely different and i'll point out

0:25:08that although it looks it looks like

0:25:10these are these are women's hands

0:25:12potentially gwendoline christie is in

0:25:15this movie and she's tall and yeah maybe

0:25:18that's her receiving it because the

0:25:19person receiving it is much taller than

0:25:21the person giving it i was thinking the

0:25:22person receiving it was later and that

0:25:25could be the person giving you a

0:25:26seahorse even could be seated small

0:25:28houses but i thought i could do I agreed

0:25:31with a person receives a PLA there is a

0:25:33lot of focus also on the obviously again

0:25:36we're focused on a lightsaber here are

0:25:37action sort of moves with that

0:25:39so once again with the weight is given

0:25:41to an object rather than to a character

0:25:43literally what you're saying that the

0:25:46droid is enough object not a character

0:25:48I'm saying that it's a it is not a

0:25:51person it is a you know it is a it's not

0:25:55a princess not a flesh-and-blood person

0:25:57that the handing off does look like it's

0:26:00an alien too by the way in one frame you

0:26:02can see that that that looks like it's

0:26:04an orange alien with a funny face

0:26:06justice suntan i'm on that unknown name

0:26:10distant planet right at hand look you

0:26:12two

0:26:13yeah like this to me knuckles your hands

0:26:16will look like that's too someday but we

0:26:18did we did find my lightsaber in the

0:26:20best burnout floating zone and our

0:26:23submarine came back with this then okay

0:26:27and then you have the power to this

0:26:29Christmas boom and we get lightsabers

0:26:33are not like super x-wings again zooming

0:26:36across the water

0:26:37a very different shot this time from the

0:26:38one that we saw in the first teaser

0:26:40where we were kind of watching them from

0:26:41the side and now we're right in front of

0:26:43them

0:26:44that was the morning this is after the

0:26:46successful mission is this beautiful i

0:26:49love them them kicking up water although

0:26:50have imagined you're like out fishing

0:26:52one day and you're just like that area

0:26:55fishing fish and then the and suddenly

0:26:57this weekend x-wing blue those stupid

0:27:00x-wing blue angels always lie and kids

0:27:03yeah yeah nice nice weeks there it's a

0:27:06great another great sort of like

0:27:07movement shot again you know we talked

0:27:09about this in the first podcast about

0:27:11the trailers you know but so many space

0:27:13battles of course in the original

0:27:14trilogy taking place in you know in the

0:27:16blackness of space because it's a lot

0:27:18easier to Matt shots against them and so

0:27:20seeing x-wings flying through the

0:27:22atmosphere is still quite a treat

0:27:24yeah it's all it's aight x-wings in the

0:27:28shot by my count it seems alright and

0:27:33then making trouble and upsetting the

0:27:35fish and oscar isaac is like an night is

0:27:39going woohoo

0:27:41he seems pretty happy but not yet be

0:27:42that's not what he's saying oh we still

0:27:46have our red black sort of you know

0:27:49helmet motif going on the recognizable

0:27:52rebel symbol some more about shan his

0:27:54little toilets jacket there but like you

0:27:57know so much again like so much what we

0:27:59saw seem so to you know take directly to

0:28:01the original trilogy so you guys are

0:28:05bigger ship nerds that I am how much

0:28:08different is are these models of X way

0:28:11from our return of the jedi they have

0:28:14split engines like the engines are

0:28:17semicircles rather than full circles

0:28:19which they tie believe are in the

0:28:22original trilogy so like they look then

0:28:25we talked about this a little bit on the

0:28:26first broadcasted they look a little bit

0:28:28more like the realms McCrory concept art

0:28:32which I know they drew heavily from we

0:28:34also have split wings biggest so unlike

0:28:36a regular x-wing where when the wings

0:28:38are closed you see two wings a top wing

0:28:40like a top piece of bread and a bottom

0:28:42like about a piece of bread in this

0:28:43situation on these x-wings when they

0:28:45close one

0:28:46part of the Rings the front half of the

0:28:47wing and one part of the back at but

0:28:49it's one layer thing

0:28:50yeah yeah okay it's easier to see that

0:28:52after they're like the flyover I like

0:28:54the super seventies plastic box on Oscar

0:28:58Isaac so yes there with the big plastic

0:29:00but ass

0:29:01it's like a like a Nintendo cartridge

0:29:03has been attached to his chest right

0:29:05enjoy that it actually doesn't do

0:29:07anything even in the star wars universe

0:29:08is just there for like continuity he's

0:29:11going to organ computer in the back has

0:29:12got plastic tubes like all nine yards

0:29:14ya gonna do how I i know i get to talk

0:29:19in that first trailer thing so i just

0:29:20have to shut make it brief shoutout for

0:29:23just how real this movie looks Bob and I

0:29:26know that was one of JJ Abrams big goals

0:29:30is to you know sort of return us to the

0:29:32the tangible aspect of the star wars

0:29:35universe and every single shot i see

0:29:38including of course droids which i'm

0:29:40sure we will talk about later on I just

0:29:43get me so it fills me with a joy for

0:29:47star wars that i really haven't had a

0:29:49long time because the prequels felt so

0:29:52plasticky right they didn't it didn't

0:29:55feel like you could walk into that world

0:29:57anywhere up whereas i feel like this

0:30:01this version of Star Wars JJ Abrams Star

0:30:04Wars feels so lived in and it feels

0:30:06outdoorsy more like it doesn't feel

0:30:08soundstage like a lot of the prequels I

0:30:10mean if you do it in a soundstage and

0:30:12you can make a lookout Doors you win

0:30:14like I don't care if you actually do it

0:30:15on location but you have to like if it

0:30:17looks if i look at it and say that's a

0:30:19sound stage with green screens you

0:30:21failed and so much of a likely said I

0:30:24outdoorsy John after we talked to him

0:30:25for a while at the bonfire see ya ya ya

0:30:28can be like an inversion to start where

0:30:30else if that's on a soundstage I don't

0:30:32care as long as I think it's outside but

0:30:34so much of the prequels was like did not

0:30:36look like it was outside the lighting

0:30:38was off

0:30:38I you know it's not like you can see

0:30:40Matt lines or green screen or anything

0:30:42but you could just tell like that's

0:30:43clearly not uh you know that they don't

0:30:46you have not convinced me to their

0:30:47outdoors even though you're trying to

0:30:49tell me their address you have not

0:30:50convinced me that was outside the window

0:30:51is that right

0:30:52shiny it's the matrix right it's all the

0:30:55whiting wasn't there yet nice rented you

0:30:57know JJ Abrams talked a little bit today

0:30:58about

0:30:58like wanting everything to look like you

0:31:01know you can easily mentioned that very

0:31:03fact like the lighting looks good here

0:31:04if he did a very good job of talking

0:31:06about what he liked about the original

0:31:08without saying explicitly this is what

0:31:09went wrong with the prequels but it felt

0:31:12very much like that was the kind exactly

0:31:13what he was saying

0:31:15yeah it's hard to do like when you have

0:31:17you know is a fine line here at you have

0:31:19an indoor scene and there's a window and

0:31:21outside the window is outdoors and it's

0:31:23not really an important part of the

0:31:24scene but if you don't make the outside

0:31:26of the window looks like the actual

0:31:27outdoors the whole thing feels

0:31:28claustrophobic and you feel like you

0:31:30feel like you're just in like you know

0:31:31the truman show where it's like there's

0:31:32a movie showing outside your window

0:31:34really you're inside deep inside

0:31:35something you know it just feels too

0:31:38confined

0:31:39it's funny to me because I feel I still

0:31:41feel like you know looking back the

0:31:43prequels momentarily

0:31:45the only thing that feels real about the

0:31:48prequels to be are some of the

0:31:50Palestines on Naboo and some of the

0:31:52summer cottage on the zoo because that

0:31:55actually was shot on location and shot

0:31:57outdoors and featured real buildings

0:31:59well but at some of the Tatooine stuff

0:32:01and in episode one especially to mission

0:32:03and my piano and you if they have less

0:32:05challenging scenario so first of all I

0:32:07think the entire pod race which of

0:32:08course happens nowhere but in a computer

0:32:10for the most part or with tiny models

0:32:12that are shot on a set that for the most

0:32:14part feels like it's outdoors

0:32:15alright well you know but like you think

0:32:17it was much easier senior like well

0:32:19we're gonna have these people sitting on

0:32:20a couch in Khorasan and they're on a

0:32:22balcony or this big open window you can

0:32:24get away like going up in an escalator

0:32:26or elevator

0:32:28yeah i didn't i didn't feel like any of

0:32:30the things out the windows were really

0:32:31there I felt like it was a movie playing

0:32:32behind them and it just it kills it you

0:32:34can get away with in the pod racing

0:32:35because it's fast and blurry well it's

0:32:38very bright

0:32:39it's real lighting and it's nothing like

0:32:41anything that's really like we all can

0:32:43identify we've all seen people sitting

0:32:45on a couch

0:32:46very few of us have seen actual Padre

0:32:47cysts right like it's I think it's

0:32:50easier to sell a desert and bright

0:32:52someone that it is to sell a movie

0:32:53Twilight sitting behind peoples then you

0:32:55have to match the lighting of like well

0:32:56it was moody Twilight outside and

0:32:58Coruscant

0:32:59how would the light look on people's

0:33:00faces indoors and then just does a

0:33:02slight mismatch and that's all it takes

0:33:04so I'm i also wanted to point out that

0:33:06the i like i like the outdoorsy stuff

0:33:09JJ Abrams said today

0:33:12not a spoiler but that they are looking

0:33:14at an assembly of the whole movie

0:33:16without this without the CGI and he said

0:33:20the great thing about it is you know

0:33:21what's going on and that's because

0:33:24there's so much real stuff in it and

0:33:26again the implication there is if you're

0:33:28shooting on a virtual set all you have

0:33:31is people in front of a green screen and

0:33:33you don't know what you're seeing and

0:33:34that little shy playing charades right

0:33:36your actors don't have anything to react

0:33:38to exactly and that's why I like a lord

0:33:40of the rings they had Andy Serkis

0:33:42they're wearing the little funny

0:33:43jumpsuit with the ping-pong balls the

0:33:44even though they're gonna totally erase

0:33:46him and that's just what he wears John

0:33:48geez that's why he wasn't wearing the

0:33:50ping-pong balls but anywhere wearing the

0:33:52jumpsuit it's like why is even in this

0:33:53scene is to give them something to act

0:33:55off of to say it roughly it's gonna look

0:33:57like this guy

0:33:58yes speaking of things that act up can

0:34:00we talk about mediate yet no not yet

0:34:04nope we don't get worried that we we're

0:34:06gonna go in order here so hold on next

0:34:08scene next scene we have a we have

0:34:11apparently our villain and this and this

0:34:15villain is care is this is our friend

0:34:18with the with the lightsaber with the

0:34:21two little scarred lightsaber is coming

0:34:23off of it the villain villain is wearing

0:34:26a dark cloak but not white a white shirt

0:34:29and has a am a ski mask on and is

0:34:32swiping is swiping very rapidly along

0:34:34with sparks by the way swiping a bonfire

0:34:38to is a bonfire stormtrooper and a

0:34:41bonfire stormtrooper and a and a tent

0:34:45and a lightsaber without like when you

0:34:47said swiping very vigorously Jason

0:34:48because you made it sound like he was

0:34:49using an iphone yeah swipe that he's

0:34:51trying to unlock his lights in with all

0:34:53these masks and you know like they have

0:34:55a hooded figures who are also wearing

0:34:57masks they look kind of robotic and

0:34:58wearing shiny gloves are getting a big

0:35:00destiny vibe off this guy haha

0:35:03is hunter class obviously now warlock

0:35:06please

0:35:07oh no look at the mud look at the ball

0:35:10I don't know it's hard anyways yeah he's

0:35:12got a light saber and he's hitting

0:35:14something and he seems upset and by the

0:35:16way this is the same bonfire e-type

0:35:18scene because you've got the embers yeah

0:35:20looks like a TV in the background and a

0:35:22stormtrooper behind him so it looks like

0:35:23kind of the same setting where we just

0:35:26are two and the weird creepy hand

0:35:27yeah there's a lot of bonfire your

0:35:29rising on aren't you could be I that is

0:35:33a very short scene it's followed

0:35:34immediately by a shot of daisy ridley

0:35:36and John boyega and bb/9 running / roll

0:35:41with her BB BB BB is equal

0:35:44yeah you before BB king BB King you

0:35:48really want John boyega are all running

0:35:50went out that every single shot of John

0:35:52boyega we have in this trailer and the

0:35:54last trailer he's always running routes

0:35:56but he'll African yeah he's it's like a

0:35:58bad day for him so far

0:36:00I gotta love that he's like c-3po of

0:36:03this movie

0:36:04can I just liked it you know we work

0:36:07this is a I you know we it's not giving

0:36:09anything away say that he is eight main

0:36:11character you know I and he's because

0:36:13he's been featured very heavily and all

0:36:15of this is punchy face we see in the

0:36:17first light and and I like to think the

0:36:19fact that like we're all used to having

0:36:20characters were hyper competent great

0:36:21everything he just seems like he's

0:36:23freaked out on him and I really enjoy

0:36:25these sweaty he's put upon he's scared

0:36:28he's running away from explosions just

0:36:31like you know he should not get out of

0:36:33bed that morning yeah in this so in this

0:36:35second at-bat we she's gotta a stick of

0:36:39some kind

0:36:40he's he's just running with a leather

0:36:42jacket and and bb-8 is rolling himself

0:36:45away as eight from a an explosion that

0:36:47keeps getting worse because it tie

0:36:49fighter a single time I fighter is a

0:36:52strafing wherever they're running away

0:36:54from on sandy planet and the fighter as

0:36:56usual has lousy game yesterday little

0:37:00shooting at the enemy shooting at the

0:37:02building they're running out of its

0:37:03shooting at them then it's got really

0:37:04bad aim shooting at that building maybe

0:37:06the TIE fighter like piles I've got an

0:37:08upgrade in the last 30 years

0:37:09yeah you see something like it looks

0:37:11like a bunch of disks buried in the

0:37:12background

0:37:13it's not supposed to be but look how

0:37:14Jeff shield generator yeah Empire is

0:37:17just a hunk of junk buried in the ground

0:37:19and there's some other people off to the

0:37:20left also running away from this

0:37:21explosion Bismarck State Building yeah

0:37:25the building has been recently evacuated

0:37:26because explosion caused tie fighters

0:37:28are coming to blown up

0:37:29yes I really wanted to make our adorable

0:37:32little ball droid roll away from

0:37:35explosions

0:37:36yeah and so you know this is something

0:37:37where r 2 unless he uses his little

0:37:39prequel jetpacks like he's not going to

0:37:41be able to keep up with people running

0:37:43away from an explosion but the ball

0:37:44droid

0:37:45no problem sand ball droid handles and

0:37:47bb-8 handle sandwich and generally also

0:37:49a in inline of him being upset about

0:37:51things about halfway through this little

0:37:53clip when the the latest firing from the

0:37:57TIE fighter smacks and there's a second

0:37:59explosion he does an extra screen mid

0:38:02screen because uh yeah he's definitely

0:38:06having a rough day bad data and the

0:38:07woman running see she's you know seems

0:38:10much more together

0:38:11I don't have time to mention she's

0:38:12carrying the big bass clarinet or

0:38:14whatever she's got no she just for

0:38:16running away with the bank statement but

0:38:18not really

0:38:19tusken raider staff to you later staffed

0:38:22not wait those are curved on the end

0:38:25table like an acorn Lightcap usually

0:38:27right is looking better because i saw i

0:38:29saw plastic and I was gonna say just and

0:38:32wondered once you go to the Star Wars

0:38:33convention or something and she by the

0:38:36way she is wearing a total Luke

0:38:39Skywalker e Tatooine a new hope outfit

0:38:41here

0:38:42oh yeah yeah yeahs to the wraps

0:38:45yeah it's the long flowing she she has

0:38:47only she has a light color to me that I

0:38:49want to be the only difference is they

0:38:51want to show a little bit more skin so

0:38:52she's her sleeves don't connect all the

0:38:54way up to the you know the inner park so

0:38:56it's a little bit reviewing on her than

0:38:58it was on Luke because the other point

0:39:00Portman's terrible outfit from yes

0:39:03exactly an idea let's get this could be

0:39:06a stylistic choice was that an

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0:40:34BB BB 8 when it is in the shot so if you

0:40:37want to talk about about it you do that

0:40:39now

0:40:40okay well not not to spoil anything for

0:40:44John but i think he knows this already

0:40:47it's a physical prop yeah they said that

0:40:49during the first trailer they have it on

0:40:51rolling around on stage today I do have

0:40:54some pictures of it rolling around on

0:40:55stage that's pretty crazy i have copious

0:40:58video because oh my gosh if they don't

0:41:01figure out a way to market him into the

0:41:03most adorable christmas toy i will cry I

0:41:06I think Star Wars has got your marketing

0:41:09taken care of cable disaster was asking

0:41:12about that on Twitter today and about

0:41:14the possible way could work and

0:41:15eventually through his tweets i saw that

0:41:17like there's some toy company did fear

0:41:19of it

0:41:19yeah that that has pioneered the

0:41:21technology to make toys like this and

0:41:23they use that same thing to make the

0:41:24price still say when I see the one in

0:41:27the original teaser where it's bouncing

0:41:28along real fast but the thing bouncing

0:41:30on it oh yeah it still looks a little

0:41:31bit CGH to me but like the physical

0:41:34wanna it's kind of like where you know

0:41:36the original movies they had multiple

0:41:37are to some remote controls

0:41:39the Kenny Baker was in and everything

0:41:41like i imagine that there are many shots

0:41:43with the practical deviate in them and

0:41:46their other shots for a hero cg like

0:41:48this one for instance it could be seeing

0:41:49you on his way in the background is

0:41:51blurry yet wouldn't have bothered to try

0:41:53to get the droid like I don't know how

0:41:55fast toilet can move is what i'm getting

0:41:56at it but ya wanna hit up boo super fast

0:42:00i will fit

0:42:00yeah interesting tidbit kathleen kennedy

0:42:02mentioned that Robert Iger himself after

0:42:05his company apparently for the body

0:42:07well there was a story reported last

0:42:08October that Sphero said it would be

0:42:11partnering with Disney star wars

0:42:13franchise to make a new toy

0:42:16so there you guys what yeah there's the

0:42:19answer and then it looks like there's a

0:42:21there's like a magnetic connection for

0:42:23the for the head unit electromagnets

0:42:26yeah although it does yeah it does move

0:42:28a lot slower on stage and you could tell

0:42:29like it whirled around pretty well but

0:42:31every once awhile look like I'm never

0:42:32like on the verge of falling for ya like

0:42:35I don't have my theory on how it worked

0:42:37having seen the two second clip of the

0:42:39physical one rolling around on twitter i

0:42:41was that it's not involving magnets that

0:42:44basically the thing on top is on top of

0:42:46a bunch of wheels that would they can

0:42:48roll in various directions and basically

0:42:50the ball on the bottom is easy to make a

0:42:51ball that self-propelled right we know

0:42:52how to do that with internal you know

0:42:54motors and weights and stuff and then a

0:42:56thing on top simply races to stay atop

0:42:59the ball is in which direction the ball

0:43:01is moving and correcting for it and so

0:43:03that puts a limit on the speed because

0:43:04you suddenly make the ball starts to

0:43:05move very quickly in the head can't

0:43:07react fast enough to help local toppling

0:43:08off like that it's not actually

0:43:10connected there know Maggie's holding on

0:43:11the only thing holding it on is gravity

0:43:13and little tiny wheels and motors that

0:43:15keep it a top of thing

0:43:16yeah based on what cable because I was

0:43:18following that threat as well i think

0:43:21the the original MIT project the cable

0:43:24found was using electromagnets and

0:43:26basically a balancing rod inside the

0:43:29actual actual ball so I I don't know I I

0:43:35tend to believe that it is at least

0:43:37magnetic in nature based on what the

0:43:40based on the footage I saw of it rolling

0:43:43around on stage the problem of thing

0:43:45that with the magnets is like I mean I i

0:43:47guess if you had just the shell of the

0:43:50ball rotating but the internal magnet

0:43:52always stays point straight up number

0:43:53two how the ball rolls you know domain

0:43:55like what is yeah I don't know what I'm

0:43:58trying to think what's i'm thinking of

0:43:59it the way that you know like when

0:44:01you're a kid you play with like magnets

0:44:04shavings and you put the magnet

0:44:05underneath the paper and as you move the

0:44:07paper from side-to-side the magnet

0:44:09shavings move from side to side i have

0:44:11to assume that they have a magnet like

0:44:13on a tray of some kind and then the tray

0:44:15is robot robotically controlled so that

0:44:18basically the idea being that as they

0:44:20should tell the train to go left the

0:44:22magnet goes laughter than the ball head

0:44:25rotates lamps and such are i'm trying to

0:44:28think about what economic the builds a

0:44:29toy and the thing that makes it you know

0:44:33electromagnets that's power and

0:44:34everything but on the other hand to do

0:44:36it the way I described requires fairly

0:44:38fast and sophisticated computers to

0:44:40react to the ball so maybe that would

0:44:42only be practical for the actual prop so

0:44:44yeah we will all get these toys &

0:44:46finance community involvement find out

0:44:48what ya many BBS die different word

0:44:51android but now i really like what toys

0:44:54aside i do want to be v8 but i really

0:44:58love the design of his droid i know a

0:45:00lot of people made fun of him for being

0:45:02a little bit of soccer ball in the first

0:45:04and the first trailer up but I

0:45:06especially watching him on that on the

0:45:10keynote today and watching the second

0:45:12trailer it's such a different like we we

0:45:16seeing the ad astra max and we've gotten

0:45:19so used to ask the maximum gotten so

0:45:21used two protocol droids on that this is

0:45:23a very different it's very different

0:45:25type of movement and they seem to have

0:45:27discovered that you know even with a

0:45:29circular with a circular droid you can

0:45:32still do the same kind of expressive

0:45:33movement and maybe even more so that

0:45:36then we were able to do with the r2 and

0:45:39with c-3po and all the other models and

0:45:42I'm there you know there are a couple

0:45:43shots here and there which I guess we'll

0:45:45talk to we get there but it really it

0:45:47really feels like they've managed to

0:45:49give bb-8 a personality of his own

0:45:51without having to make him in our to

0:45:53stand in and without having you know

0:45:57while he's not replacing the droids we

0:46:01know and love he's his own his own

0:46:02creature and I think I think

0:46:06he's going to be a fan favorite pretty

0:46:08close pretty quickly he's already kind

0:46:10of which is way into my heart he's a

0:46:12scrapper your droid for a time when

0:46:14there is less you know there's less

0:46:16organization it seems like even you know

0:46:17you have all the rebels were scrappy in

0:46:19the Empire was very organized but still

0:46:21the rebels had some you know they had a

0:46:22thing going whereas this we keep seeing

0:46:24these individual characters running away

0:46:27from explosions and dry like they don't

0:46:28look organized and they would have

0:46:30destroyed because like this is the

0:46:31little person with dried he goes around

0:46:32with them and it's a much more sort of

0:46:34ragtag bunch of individuals and trying

0:46:36to make their way in the world then they

0:46:38don't look like they're part of any

0:46:40organized resistance or anything right

0:46:42goes to the same point about John boyega

0:46:44again once like not sort of being on top

0:46:46of my main question about bb-8 is what

0:46:50is his actual droid functionality like

0:46:52what was he built for he is obviously a

0:46:55giant like soccer referee or is the

0:46:58answer ya don't come don't get the

0:47:00referee so there's a quick cut from this

0:47:05era fade and then we cut to the RR

0:47:09villain again

0:47:10who's this friend is your name saying I

0:47:12ran this is your namesake el pelo red

0:47:15color and the bad guy

0:47:17yes it's the same guy with the with it

0:47:19with that mask and that and that and

0:47:21that a at a lightsaber didn't know

0:47:24anybody played kotor right fielder

0:47:27Publius yeah i don't i don't know i

0:47:30don't know how much of that we want to

0:47:32get it too if anything I don't know

0:47:34anything about that but i want to

0:47:35mention i just say that the mask is very

0:47:38interesting very yeah it looks a lot

0:47:41like a lot of the baby there have been a

0:47:42number of video games with sort of dark

0:47:44jedi sith would have you in them and

0:47:46they almost invariably seem to have some

0:47:49creepy going on the face region

0:47:50well I'm Darth Vader email or you had a

0:47:53mask right artists started that is a

0:47:54trend was trend the fashion statement

0:47:57what is it about six lords and having an

0:47:59inability to breathe properly wash

0:48:01allergies the dark side of the force

0:48:03makes you very susceptible to sunburn

0:48:05so you have to protect yourself with a

0:48:07dark cloak and a mask their their arm so

0:48:10here we've got people that look like

0:48:12prisoners or refugees or something being

0:48:14held at gunpoint by some stormtroopers

0:48:17in the background there are various fire

0:48:18is going

0:48:19on including more embers and we have cut

0:48:22kylo Ren our villain spin around with

0:48:24his lightsaber and reach out with a

0:48:26grasping hand right like it like it

0:48:29they were supposed to be attending to

0:48:30these prisoners / refugee / whatever and

0:48:33suddenly notices there's something

0:48:34coming from the direction that the

0:48:35camera is coming from and he turns

0:48:37around quickly and with his lightsaber

0:48:39up with his little force and poking out

0:48:41and and then this is it actually is the

0:48:44camera is the problem is it out and wait

0:48:46for being filmed for the office

0:48:48no autographs no autographs sorry I know

0:48:51it's not a baller or is it a droid I

0:48:53can't tell

0:48:54please do not pass myself he's a working

0:48:57set i love the new empire logo

0:49:01I don't obviously i don't know if it's

0:49:02the empire but the the logos been

0:49:04changed in some interesting ways that

0:49:06the higher design firm to try to freshen

0:49:08it

0:49:08yeah so the next in the next shot

0:49:10whatever is left of the Empire and and I

0:49:12think so this the next shot has a whole

0:49:15bunch of Stormtroopers I'd like a big

0:49:18podium above with a whole bunch of

0:49:20people on it including on dude

0:49:22sometimes your black right and this red

0:49:24and this read it and they're on a nice i

0:49:27see location are others no hard hard as

0:49:31I icy snowy location and and a there's a

0:49:34red banner with this black symbol on it

0:49:38that is almost to the symbol of of

0:49:42Greendale Community College from

0:49:44community but not quite varied the

0:49:47background right and admit button

0:49:48brothers a stripper to you can 15 is

0:49:52where things got a little skirt

0:49:53oh yeah there is a snowtrooper back

0:49:55there and that all the way in the back

0:49:56you're a good spot turbolasers on the

0:49:59side there from new hope you got the new

0:50:01storm trooper design which is

0:50:03interesting and it like that it is it

0:50:06almost start circling back to the

0:50:08prequel trooper design because it's

0:50:10smooth over it is less tubular and less

0:50:12lumpy and more sort of like it

0:50:16Abby you try to maps like the technology

0:50:19looking different for a purpose but this

0:50:20almost looks like they restyled it like

0:50:23when you restore a car for the new model

0:50:24year

0:50:25yeah new empire and reselling it yet to

0:50:28touch on colts old styles they do look

0:50:31kind of duck face

0:50:32but I kind of enjoy that spit smoothies

0:50:35in this spring empire but they actually

0:50:39it's a little weird because the rest of

0:50:41the the rest of the universe feels so as

0:50:44you were describing before like broken

0:50:45and lived in whereas i feel like with

0:50:49this is a structure for uniforms feel

0:50:53very very shiny

0:50:55yeah that's the aesthetic they're

0:50:56clearly going for with for the the evil

0:50:59guys later we see another black shiny I

0:51:00their guns are shining their outfits are

0:51:02shiny they are shiny

0:51:03I mean even even that they're the

0:51:05strangely colored typewriter is shinier

0:51:08than normal like are still waiting out

0:51:10there still in this big hunk of junk

0:51:12thing with all the Canterbury lasers and

0:51:13some snow but that they themselves are

0:51:16trying to look as prim and proper and

0:51:18Chinese possible and and a tip for the

0:51:21Empire really don't have any kind of

0:51:23meetings with the giant red banner

0:51:25behind you because it tells me that

0:51:26snazzy ish

0:51:27yeah well be hard to pull that off and

0:51:29still be good

0:51:30that's what they're going for I i like

0:51:32the implication here that this is the

0:51:35thread in the movie is that the Empire

0:51:36has got new stuff they're back this

0:51:38whatever this is new empire splinter

0:51:41group trying to come back

0:51:42are they are breaking out you might say

0:51:44but they they might be striking back and

0:51:46when a bit they've bought some new armor

0:51:48and they've got a new flag horses

0:51:51awakening

0:51:52yeah so that that a that's that but I I

0:51:55that is intriguing right because um that

0:51:58is one of the questions like I thought

0:51:59we beat the empire but nope nope there's

0:52:01stormtroopers and there's like they got

0:52:03a meeting and made that someone's gonna

0:52:04give a speech and that's not good right

0:52:08dr. prison honest yeah they got their

0:52:10new ships and everything yeah we'll see

0:52:12that in a second

0:52:13no good we dissolve two-shot of I guess

0:52:19that's is that Daisy Ridley again I

0:52:21believe it yet and she's looking up and

0:52:25that's really all that happens in that

0:52:26shot is that she looks up nice lighting

0:52:29is very pretty that's what happens that

0:52:30shot

0:52:31yeah she's not she's not a drinking milk

0:52:34and she's also sweaty and dirty

0:52:36yeah yep and she looks up perhaps to see

0:52:40two Tie Fighters scooping downward

0:52:44different seen through the through the

0:52:46clouds totally different see this

0:52:47trailer logic right the trailer logic is

0:52:49she looks up and tie fighters come down

0:52:51even though it's totally not connected

0:52:53and one of them goes through a cloud

0:52:55because they're showing off for some

0:52:58yeah because TIE fighters because TIE

0:53:00fighters they could be embers from a

0:53:02bonfire we don't know they have the tie

0:53:04fighters looks crappy or two like I

0:53:06don't know if it's the same model

0:53:07performance they look thinner and

0:53:08spindly are in the same way the new

0:53:10x-wings look a little bit like that the

0:53:12wind the wings are thinned out and of

0:53:13course the reverse color it makes and it

0:53:15gives these sort of same ships x-wing

0:53:18fighters a very different look even

0:53:19though they may vary only in small ways

0:53:21then then things get really interesting

0:53:25so the next scene is as a longer seen

0:53:28and it and it's on a on a spaceship

0:53:31perhaps a Star Destroyer there is a open

0:53:34to space with a magnetic barrier behind

0:53:36at the far end of this Bay there are a

0:53:39whole bunch of TIE fighters lined up and

0:53:41then there are stormtroopers that are

0:53:43shooting at a thai fighter that is

0:53:44taking off

0:53:45perhaps whoever is taking this tie

0:53:48fighter is doing so in an unauthorized

0:53:49fashion and it's firing back at these at

0:53:53the other Thai fighters in the

0:53:54stormtroopers that at least one

0:53:55stormtrooper goes flying like an

0:53:57upside-down

0:53:59yep they're making their escape in this

0:54:02tie fighter it's what it looks like they

0:54:03got their commandeer to tie fighter and

0:54:05in the fighter Bay and they're shooting

0:54:07their way out

0:54:08yeah there's another you can just see

0:54:09the back of another ship with

0:54:11like-for-like diagonal engines which i

0:54:13think will see in a subsequent shot up

0:54:15the Scout shuttlecraft or whatever yeah

0:54:17bad news for that guy I don't think he's

0:54:19I think he's gonna need some serious

0:54:21physical therapy trooper we cut to

0:54:24another storm trooper oh but what's

0:54:27what's this that storm trooper takes off

0:54:28his helmet and it is John boyega he's

0:54:31really sweaty and upset and she's so so

0:54:36again like trailer logic were meant to

0:54:37believe that somehow connected to the

0:54:39previous scene right where is it may or

0:54:41may not be i will note that when you

0:54:43slow down and same thing off his helmet

0:54:45there's like a bloody handprint on it

0:54:47yeah bloody or muddy or whatever the

0:54:50point is his outfit is not shiny it's a

0:54:52mess it's like he's been down the

0:54:53garbage chute or something o.o outfit is

0:54:56a man

0:54:57he takes off the helmet he's a mess

0:54:58underneath the helmet that's why you

0:55:00don't wear white guys it shows all the

0:55:01dirt yep

0:55:02yeah clearly the design for a more

0:55:05orderly universe and again like the two

0:55:07times we've seen him and his

0:55:08stormtrooper outfit he has taken off his

0:55:10helmet and been exasperated blow that

0:55:12helmet so the question is is he a

0:55:14stormtrooper is he pretending to be a

0:55:16stormtrooper is he in a somewhat

0:55:18unwilling stormtrooper on a little short

0:55:21for a stormtrooper stormtroopers that

0:55:23had a change of heart a planted spy like

0:55:25we don't know he seems to be not very

0:55:27good at it because he's always very

0:55:28startled and and cannot keeping his

0:55:31outfit clean and just all strapped up

0:55:33like most stormtroopers me know where

0:55:35they're not getting very calm under

0:55:38pressure guys when they don't shoot well

0:55:40I really like the way that the TIE

0:55:43fighter kind of hovers off-kilter on

0:55:45that deck infect the whole shot again is

0:55:46kinda off kilter the deck is slanted you

0:55:49know we gotta watch out for the cameras

0:55:51tilted as it tracks along the edge Abram

0:55:53style

0:55:54yep yep the Dutch angle makes everything

0:55:57a little bit more confusing at first and

0:56:01it's skewed so boyega upset and then the

0:56:06next shot we have a we have a fade and a

0:56:08quick cut to outside outer space there

0:56:11is that ship that we saw in the bay

0:56:12moving toward a Star Destroyer along

0:56:16with three other models so it's four

0:56:18models of our four ships of the same

0:56:20model along with one of those bird one

0:56:23of those by watching the taller to pray

0:56:25upside down one of those big wingy

0:56:28things is going toward it and the stars

0:56:30very they're going towards is not a new

0:56:32hope model star destroyer but that's the

0:56:34one it's not cs2 at the bottom look bit

0:56:37of it sticks out more than the top and

0:56:39bridges set back a little bit

0:56:41you can't tell like this bigger mound

0:56:43before the bridge so it's like this is

0:56:45difficult to place in the timeline is

0:56:46this like just a leftover star destroyer

0:56:49from the the Jedi or is this like the

0:56:53new model but it's not quite as fancy as

0:56:55the old ones were it's hard to say the

0:56:57the little shop craft look a lot like

0:56:59prequel ships in the little stubby

0:57:01dorsal fin wing and the

0:57:03engines on an angle and the batwing

0:57:05thing looks like nothing we've seen

0:57:07before

0:57:07yeah it's a weird the car looks like a

0:57:09shuttle without the third without the

0:57:11third thing yeah but looks it but it

0:57:13looks to me like is how they like to

0:57:15give in the prequels the Sith their own

0:57:18story and your ships reads like a city

0:57:20signature ships perhaps our villains

0:57:23ya know it totally ran trend that yeah I

0:57:27had the exact same thought you did which

0:57:28it looks like one of the like one of the

0:57:29shuttles that got it stop

0:57:31little wing taken off but it's got

0:57:34everything taken off it's flat and the

0:57:36but it's got two little engines and it's

0:57:37flat it's like it's it is but I don't

0:57:40want you can see the front of it so hard

0:57:41to tell but anyway the texture on the

0:57:42fact that it's all dark and craggy

0:57:44looking at it makes me think it's a bad

0:57:46guy

0:57:47custom bad guy ship which everybody

0:57:48every decent guy has that it's like

0:57:50Darth Vader started off with a little

0:57:51curvy little curvy TIE fighter like I

0:57:54want one of those gotta have your

0:57:56bespoke evil ship

0:57:57well well then so we dissolve to a

0:58:00chroma speaking foreign trooper well

0:58:03he's black and chrome we gotta keep

0:58:06though you don't let just anybody wear a

0:58:07cape right you might get caught it

0:58:08painted red and black cape yeah that is

0:58:11not regulation people it's got a rifle

0:58:13yeah anyway and he's standing in front

0:58:15of our little capsule-shaped lights from

0:58:17New Hope sort of Death Star kind of

0:58:19lights but then also the rocks to the

0:58:21left

0:58:22yeah which is weird and some lights that

0:58:24look very nineteen seventies on the

0:58:25right there to data this stormtrooper is

0:58:29significantly taller

0:58:31yes Matt you know shiny black i'm going

0:58:35to go out on a limb and say that this is

0:58:37one of christie's character could be

0:58:39because come on that would be awesome

0:58:42because she's very she would have a

0:58:45fashionable cape like that you think it

0:58:47could be yeah actually I really like I

0:58:51adore gwendoline christie and i have no

0:58:54idea who she's playing in this movie

0:58:55other than that she's cashed in this

0:58:57movie up but I'm kind of hoping that

0:59:00she's playing that guy or like a

0:59:03lieutenant because she plays you know

0:59:05she plays conflicted good person so well

0:59:08i'm getting from that I feel like she

0:59:11really could sink your teeth it did

0:59:13scary scary bad bad lieutenant also with

0:59:18you know what we're lacking a barrage a

0:59:20type character thanks to the EU being

0:59:23destroyed i kinda want it i would love

0:59:25to see what in evil you know

0:59:28not here not even may be evil but like

0:59:30what somebody who's working for the

0:59:32Empire whose you know female and also a

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1:01:21Squarespace build it beautiful well this

1:01:23is the which actor I don't know actors

1:01:25names which actor on I'm getting brianna

1:01:27brianna is tall because i was gonna I

1:01:31was looking at the shape of like this is

1:01:32like a woman my main impression seeing

1:01:34this for the seven frames this person

1:01:36walks towards us

1:01:37this person is walking with swagger like

1:01:39this person is is a confident it

1:01:42confident in their abilities kind of bad

1:01:45guy mean yes there's the Cape

1:01:46yes the shininess by the way this person

1:01:48walks is with attitude and with purpose

1:01:51well what are the opposite of how John

1:01:52bio work sorry I want car so what we'll

1:01:55do the rationale behind having a shiny

1:01:57stormtrooper uniform is this like

1:01:58special forces elite stormtrooper yeah

1:02:01it's like what you got to be again to

1:02:03get the cape and the shiny outfit feel

1:02:05like you need to be pretty badass

1:02:06no nothing says badass like a cape town

1:02:10is the shininess and the smoothness is

1:02:12the stylist that

1:02:13but like this is still functional the

1:02:14only thing that's not quite functional

1:02:16that looks more ceremonial is the Cape

1:02:17part of it but everything else like

1:02:19having the color coordinated weapons

1:02:20with matches your belt matches your

1:02:22shoulder pads it is it's like a dress

1:02:25because it's like a dress uniform

1:02:27somebody pointed out that this isn't

1:02:28chrome its space grey space black horse

1:02:31got it does it does look like shiny

1:02:33black their own bits but then the light

1:02:35I think the main helmet it's more like

1:02:37the mac pro which jason yeah that's true

1:02:40back problems darker place star gray i

1:02:44dissolve to bb-8 leaves bb-8 leaning out

1:02:50into a corridor to peak recognized for a

1:02:54taurus yes this quarter look familiar

1:02:57huh

1:03:00delightful debi the Millennium Falcon I

1:03:03mean a lot of ships a lot of you know

1:03:04relationships that didn't have the

1:03:07similar interiors but yeah it's looking

1:03:09pretty Falcon ish that's all we always

1:03:12say fade away as its peak of what it

1:03:14what is BBB HC we don't know it's fading

1:03:17out before we can tell you a lot of

1:03:19beautiful little poke around the corner

1:03:20I i do love that yeah that that's a

1:03:22really nice

1:03:23there's a personality that's good

1:03:25personality work there as an easier move

1:03:27for him to do that are too because our

1:03:28to whenever they had that PQ has a tilt

1:03:30entire cylinder ya body and try not to

1:03:32think about what is it was doing they

1:03:34talk very specifically about how how

1:03:36they considered the the two people I

1:03:39think who controlled bb-8 remotely I

1:03:42mean they they talked about them

1:03:43performing him very much like a

1:03:45puppeteer would perform something so

1:03:47right now i think that i think that was

1:03:48the consideration here is that there is

1:03:50you know this is a performance by a

1:03:52couple of people of getting this droid

1:03:54body to do what it does so absolutely

1:03:57it's a cute shot i like it a lot lot of

1:03:59personality in those eight frames fade

1:04:02in on we got Daisy Ridley again with her

1:04:06tattoo in this outfit she's looking

1:04:09off-screen at perhaps John boyega who is

1:04:14super sweaty and there's like around

1:04:17covered with dirt covered with dirt and

1:04:19sweat and there's sort of smoky stuff

1:04:21happening in the background and she

1:04:23offers him her

1:04:24and come with me if you want to live

1:04:26yeah that's right and he looks at it

1:04:27like um and then he looks at her and

1:04:29says okay and and reaches up and grabs

1:04:33her arm and she helps pull them up here

1:04:36goes nothing

1:04:36yeah that's I i get the sense that this

1:04:38is a a momentous moment right it's a big

1:04:41moment in the story that this is

1:04:43starting to help him

1:04:45yeah that's right it's like a these two

1:04:47characters are gonna are gonna hang

1:04:50together feet and help each other out

1:04:52that's right again again John boyega

1:04:55looking kind of a at lost super unkempt

1:04:58and unhappy ya mouth open today once

1:05:03again this guy yeah is it is you get the

1:05:06sense that john-boy is going well in

1:05:07that in the first trailer where we saw

1:05:08him pop up in the desert right I this is

1:05:13I suspect this is all part of the same

1:05:15extremely bad day that he has Charlie

1:05:18goes very bad day started a bad start

1:05:22the day with a clean stormtrooper

1:05:24uniform nice and shiny and white and be

1:05:26wind up like in the sand somewhere all

1:05:29sweaty and it looks like it's been

1:05:30destroyed by bombs like the buildings

1:05:32are all mess behind him that happen

1:05:34looks like a battle taking place back to

1:05:36my original theory where John by a guy

1:05:38is Threepio this astrology is the tin

1:05:43dog

1:05:43no i don't think so i don't think so i

1:05:46think he's I think he's a key i think

1:05:47the dynamic is going to be amusingly

1:05:49different here where we where we get the

1:05:50two of these characters are teaming up

1:05:53but we'll see

1:05:54oh I think he's gonna be a major

1:05:56character I just mean in terms of its

1:05:58side in terms of his but like look on

1:06:01life he's gonna complete complaining it

1:06:03will be the one who tells you the odds

1:06:05exactly john-boy will tell us the odds

1:06:09and in whatever his do we know what his

1:06:12character name is we do don't we

1:06:13we do same thin okay uh next shot okay

1:06:19here we go next shot desert landscape I

1:06:23believe perhaps this is the chase

1:06:25between the Millennium Falcon and the

1:06:27TIE fighters that we saw another part of

1:06:30in a trailer

1:06:31unless there's more than one unless

1:06:33there's more than one the Millennium

1:06:34Falcon is being chased by a TIE fighter

1:06:36the TIE fighter is shooting at

1:06:38it it is making a turn over the sand so

1:06:40close in fact that it appears to push

1:06:42through the sand and not and fly past

1:06:47the camera because why not send you can

1:06:49just push sand out of the way sandy

1:06:51sandy and built up there

1:06:53yeah they're going fast they blow blow

1:06:55through that sand fly past the camera

1:06:58and cut to a into an engine into the

1:07:02engine of a crash Star Destroyer on this

1:07:05world that can't tell if that's a Star

1:07:07Destroyer at least I can't tell if it's

1:07:09the first of all it doesn't look like

1:07:10it's the same one we saw before because

1:07:11it still takes angle wrong angle and

1:07:13maybe so the bridge there's no bridge

1:07:15but it does appear to be a cruiser of

1:07:16something larger than partnership and it

1:07:18has three large engines as the one to

1:07:21the left of it apparently could be a

1:07:23superstar two-story actually honestly

1:07:25yeah yeah I thought it was a super star

1:07:28destroyer that in the original shot

1:07:29actually

1:07:30and then we get a really good another JJ

1:07:33Abrams like pull in really fast on the

1:07:37action which is a very very JM shot and

1:07:40help handheld camera battlestar

1:07:41galactica type movie exactly it's the

1:07:43reply

1:07:44Kathy maybe handheld camera the camera

1:07:46man realizes he needs to get closer so

1:07:49he flips the zoom and we shoot in to see

1:07:52the the Millennium Falcon sort of

1:07:56disappearing into the darkness of the

1:07:58tube of the of the wrecked engine with

1:08:01the TIE fighter right behind it and then

1:08:03quick putt to tie fighter pilot with red

1:08:07stripes could just be the same scary

1:08:10chrome black stormtrooper we saw earlier

1:08:12maybe pretty different mask looks

1:08:14different masses will absolutely but

1:08:15maybe this is the pilot helmet but

1:08:17anyway it's black black and shiny with

1:08:19chrome bits it looks a lot like the old

1:08:21typewriter masks but just again once

1:08:23again as with the stormtroopers like

1:08:25it's got like a it's a novel take on it

1:08:27and the red thing on that they will get

1:08:29your random yeah on one houses the only

1:08:32one they don't want to lose our toes

1:08:35exhaust port or something so it's it's

1:08:37flying and then wewe cut back outside

1:08:39and we've got the Millennium Falcon

1:08:41fleeing the shots of the TIE fighter

1:08:44goes over a little bit of structure of

1:08:49the inside the

1:08:51the Star Destroyer and their the TIE

1:08:54fighter shot explodes it we fly into the

1:08:56explosion oh god no very very return of

1:08:59the jedi like and that's putting going

1:09:01to into the death star base to the

1:09:02superstructure yeah so maybe they knock

1:09:06off the radar again

1:09:07yeah and and then that's it that's the

1:09:10end of the trailer there's nothing else

1:09:12yeah that's definitely not a final state

1:09:14and then cut to black and any thoughts

1:09:15about this anymore thoughts about this

1:09:17whole sequence of the TIE fighter in the

1:09:19Millennium Falcon it's really exciting

1:09:21and I laughed at the callback even if

1:09:22it's not the same star destroy the idea

1:09:24that hey there's a Star Destroyer what

1:09:26what if we flew into a crash Star

1:09:28Destroyer maybe they'd be crazy to

1:09:30follow us the best thing about the

1:09:33Millennium Falcon is if any ship was

1:09:35going to decide that the main way that

1:09:37it would get himself out of jams is to

1:09:38fly through tight spaces don't take the

1:09:40ones shaped like a gigantic pizza with

1:09:42stuff sticking out like it is not well

1:09:44that's not what it looks like and it's

1:09:47aired in it its wide but it's flat

1:09:50I'm I don't like it what it would do is

1:09:52it with lower your tie fighters into

1:09:54these tiny spaces and the typewriter is

1:09:56smaller in every dimension in the ship

1:09:58and then just do sheer piloting skill

1:10:00and the luck of finding crevices that

1:10:02are very long and skinny it would just

1:10:04go through like a line peace and Tetris

1:10:06and just everything will blow up behind

1:10:07it was shooting at the end like that

1:10:10beautiful thing about how utterly

1:10:12beautiful those those air fights are

1:10:15John why that's why it's exciting

1:10:17because it is so improbable to see this

1:10:19ship go make these moves

1:10:21John what you missed what you have

1:10:24missed is the hours they have spent

1:10:26painstakingly setting up courses that

1:10:27are specifically designed to facilitate

1:10:29the mountain locking crowds boy

1:10:31so anyway it goes to black not much else

1:10:33happens after that

1:10:35wait a second we we hear a voice that

1:10:39seems familiar say Chewie we're home as

1:10:43we fade up on Ibaka and hand solo I

1:10:48here's I think we've seen these people

1:10:51before in this exact shot if nothing

1:10:54else that and so on seems very gravely

1:10:57like Harrison Ford himself the actor is

1:10:59very gravely yelled age more so than

1:11:01mark

1:11:01maleny sounds very graphically here and

1:11:04the reason they do it in black and hear

1:11:05his voice you like well that's

1:11:07recognizably Harrison Ford's voice right

1:11:09and he's saying chewy is recognizably

1:11:11Han Solo's voice yeah but they don't

1:11:13they haven't shown you them yet that's

1:11:15still black and when they fade in on it

1:11:17chewy and this is a question from

1:11:19Twitter yes more or less looks the same

1:11:21and dancing was asking how old they look

1:11:24at how long the bookies live wikipedia

1:11:26says they live for severe they live for

1:11:27hundreds of years and and therefore

1:11:29they're not like guinea pigs or

1:11:31something they live they live much

1:11:32longer than people because i had that

1:11:34first thought is why is chewy not grey

1:11:36and somebody said well he's not human

1:11:37you know maybe they will keep your turn

1:11:40gray it's possible my dog turned white

1:11:41but my cat lived for 20 years and never

1:11:43turned white

1:11:45then again right if they're very

1:11:47long-lived and then somebody else

1:11:48suggested he may use just for wookies

1:11:50yeah and but it's he has a very thick

1:11:53glossy coat he looks like himself

1:11:55maybe he's been taking care of himself

1:11:57and Harrison Ford is not well I'm saying

1:11:59is that lumpy didn't look like he was

1:12:00taking care of himself down but someone

1:12:02must be very hundreds and hundreds of

1:12:04years old I i want to say a couple

1:12:06things one which is I'm glad that

1:12:08Harrison Ford is not you know not being

1:12:10a absurdly made up to look you know

1:12:12they're embracing his age which i think

1:12:14is smart I think that's the only way the

1:12:16only way to go here

1:12:18he's good evening just for men advisory

1:12:20councils he looks good for his age but

1:12:22there's no question that is that you

1:12:23know older he's probably like this is

1:12:26scruffy-looking nerf herder

1:12:27right exactly he's still true to that

1:12:28character i think which is fantastic

1:12:30I mean still wonderful yeah and I like

1:12:33that this shot deliberately echoes the

1:12:36sort of classic shot of Han and Chewie

1:12:39standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the

1:12:41guns out I didn't recognize realize

1:12:42until I think one of the again watchin

1:12:45on the iPad that he had sold was

1:12:47pointing his gun at the camera

1:12:49yeah it's what kind of page in because

1:12:51you wearing a dark jacket there but they

1:12:52both got the guns up at the ready

1:12:54there's probably release

1:12:55yep yeah they're clearly standing the

1:12:57most fat book everybody looks like it

1:12:58might have gotten some modifications

1:13:00that we just got some new greebles but I

1:13:02yeah but clearly standing on one the

1:13:04Millennium Falcon to ya and so Hans

1:13:07outfit is not the same out for the

1:13:09reunion but when you first see it it is

1:13:11it is black on white and it echoes the

1:13:15old outfit

1:13:15but it is a different outfit that is

1:13:17dirty and has rumbled and he hasn't the

1:13:18laundry in a while and it makes services

1:13:20you know the same hairstylist had but

1:13:22it's kind of you know shoveled it makes

1:13:25sense that he's had he's bought new

1:13:26clothes at some point in the last 30

1:13:28years so Lana took all the other ones

1:13:31yeah it was i justyou know Harrison

1:13:35Ford's been a lot of stuff and yet in

1:13:37this just moment you like it's hot solo

1:13:39yeah like it's something about it and

1:13:43like I was so we knew in the first round

1:13:44we said okay they didn't show any of the

1:13:46old actors obviously they're saving them

1:13:47for later and this one they saved it

1:13:48they didn't show anybody except for

1:13:50hunting sure they saved for the end and

1:13:52you know so what we knew they were in

1:13:55this movie it's not a surprise he looks

1:13:57like Han Solo what's the big deal and it

1:13:59caught me by surprise happen to be the

1:14:02emotional impact of this final scene

1:14:04because nothing happens and the line he

1:14:06says is corny and they're in the

1:14:08millennium falcon which we are it looks

1:14:09like they're in the main factor which

1:14:10you already knew it wasn't because they

1:14:11keep showing it

1:14:12so what's the end she looks the same so

1:14:14what's the big deal and I've been

1:14:16thinking about like i watch trailer

1:14:17several times like I said I first time I

1:14:18watch it work

1:14:19I was like tearing up by the end of it

1:14:21had music half of that is the meeting

1:14:23should be like what music which we

1:14:25haven't talked about that right but like

1:14:27they go through several of the more

1:14:29emotional themes those movies but when

1:14:30they brought this the scene in here it's

1:14:32like it

1:14:33yeah I don't know it's like it's it's

1:14:35like morning your use while also

1:14:37revisiting it was saying like this

1:14:39person in these people he met were so

1:14:40important to you

1:14:42they're still alive they still exist in

1:14:44this fictional universe and here they

1:14:45are you look at them and you're looking

1:14:48yourself like I'm not the same person I

1:14:50was but that's still Han Solo right but

1:14:53he's older

1:14:54the Germans have a word for all of that

1:14:55just one word for all of that everything

1:14:57is better i'm sure they do but like but

1:14:59that's that's what it's like it's it's

1:15:01it's not going to have the same impact

1:15:03than anybody who didn't grow up with

1:15:04these characters because you're seeing

1:15:07them that was like 30 years later and

1:15:09it's 30 years later for you to I don't

1:15:11know I'm getting the number of years

1:15:12right but it's just it's old han solo

1:15:15but you when you look at him it's kind

1:15:16of like an old married couple when they

1:15:17look at each other so they see each

1:15:18other as they were on their wedding day

1:15:19I see Han Solo as he always was and that

1:15:23for a second i see Han Solo is he

1:15:24actually is and then

1:15:25he was then as he is and the voice and

1:15:28am just saying the word Chewie Chewie

1:15:29growling it's surprising emotional

1:15:33impact which probably makes no sense to

1:15:35anybody because it's not but not on the

1:15:37page is not in the film it is entirely

1:15:39historical context but these these are

1:15:41these are pivotal characters that were a

1:15:45huge part of some many of our childhood

1:15:47and we haven't seen them if you if you

1:15:51were old enough to watch the movies when

1:15:53they came out we haven't seen them for

1:15:5532 years we haven't seen anything from

1:15:59han Solo and Chewbacca well yeah okay

1:16:02because anything from Chewbacca right

1:16:03we're all agreed on that

1:16:04nope well I don't consider prequels even

1:16:08if we consider the prequels to have

1:16:09existed but he's nothing to you

1:16:11he looks the same it doesn't have the

1:16:13impact and because he doesn't have a

1:16:15human emotive face like he's got a

1:16:17motive body gestures but that is a

1:16:19facial prosthetic you haven't actually

1:16:20his his his dialogue is actually the

1:16:23thing that really got me is when he says

1:16:25the hot it doesn't end on hon saying

1:16:27we're home and ends on Chewie going

1:16:28yeah well it's really it's too easy

1:16:32relationship with on always made to eat

1:16:35interesting right situation with a bunch

1:16:37of rookies and he's just a Wookiee

1:16:38you've got to eat with the characters

1:16:41and he's you know if the same reason why

1:16:44are two working off the characters makes

1:16:46our to a better up a better droid more

1:16:49interesting on screen is that these if

1:16:52these people working together and the

1:16:53longstanding friendship that you got to

1:16:55see resonating off-screen took the words

1:16:58right I'm gonna yeah and these two

1:17:00together because chewy looks the same

1:17:02but Han doesn't like that's that's going

1:17:05to be a big part of how they play in

1:17:06this movie because it's like hey it's

1:17:08the Millennium Falcon looking more or

1:17:09less like it always did hate jewy-lookin

1:17:11more or less like it always did but Han

1:17:12is not looking more or less likely

1:17:13always it but he's back in those places

1:17:14with those people and everything is a

1:17:16little bit more rundown but you kind of

1:17:18look the same but the Falcon is the same

1:17:20and like I don't know that fuckin in

1:17:22that last shot looks pretty beat up

1:17:23interior always did always looking only

1:17:25have been even more so even more so

1:17:27well the india the interior looks like a

1:17:29nice and easy could use a good scrubbing

1:17:31like that's kind of messed up like it

1:17:33i am looking forward to the scene where

1:17:34they pull the sheet off the money in

1:17:36pocket

1:17:37yeah that's a big sure yeah so for all

1:17:39the but like for all the emotional

1:17:41impact of the scene and like it i don't

1:17:44know if any part of this movie will have

1:17:45the impact that just seeing this one

1:17:47scene did because it was just such a

1:17:48shock to my system to see those

1:17:49characters and just like I don't know I

1:17:52don't know how to articulate why it is

1:17:54that like like i said i watch it at work

1:17:56and I was tearing up right

1:17:57I watched like five more times the same

1:17:58thing happens like magic isn't that

1:18:00doesn't make any sense it's like you

1:18:02know it's coming

1:18:03what's the big deal and it's like your

1:18:05body's like nope this is happening just

1:18:06deal with it

1:18:07him and so the the danger if that is

1:18:10that like okay you know you can do that

1:18:12in a trailer trailers are relatively

1:18:14easy they're short or whatever it's some

1:18:16point you have to make a movie and the

1:18:18danger is that in the movie they give on

1:18:23stupid things to say he does stupid

1:18:26things he does things that we think are

1:18:27not in keeping with his character that

1:18:29the actor isn't up to the role anymore

1:18:31so many things can go wrong with older

1:18:33actors reprising the role after this

1:18:35many years under new leadership like I'm

1:18:37fearful like how how terrible but I fear

1:18:40it would i feel if i kind of like how we

1:18:43talk about how we felt about episode 3

1:18:45did terrible things to the character we

1:18:47thought of as darth vader and he's not

1:18:48even like our favor but he's the villain

1:18:49rooting against him

1:18:51terrible things can happen to our

1:18:52beloved characters in these movies and

1:18:54that danger is there John

1:18:57it can't be worse than crystal skull

1:18:59that's true but like somehow at that

1:19:01bothered me less mostly because Temple

1:19:04of Doom is kind of iffy to and like I

1:19:07don't I care about so much more about

1:19:08these like I feel like I had three solid

1:19:10movies where they did not set foot

1:19:12particularly wrong with their core

1:19:14characters and these actors are older

1:19:16and like we were giving a lot like it

1:19:18basically what now realizing is that

1:19:19these people are holding our little you

1:19:22know emotional babies like they have

1:19:23they have our babies right

1:19:25they have all these characters that we

1:19:26love in a way that the prequels did not

1:19:29you know what I mean and it's like like

1:19:32just like don't mess this up please

1:19:35especially there's a lot of things I've

1:19:36seen Harrison Ford and recently

1:19:38not that I'm saying like he has a point

1:19:41for this who said this gene hackman

1:19:44maybe he was saying that when you reach

1:19:45a certain a

1:19:46age you you know it's only asking like

1:19:50how do you how do you act with such

1:19:53gravitas how do you become such a good

1:19:55actor and says you read reach a certain

1:19:57age that you just end up having a

1:19:59certain kind of poise that the rest of

1:20:01the world reads as confidence and good

1:20:03acting but really what it is is just

1:20:04like learning to settle down right and

1:20:07Harrison Ford has that as well to the

1:20:10degree that sometimes in his later

1:20:11movies you kind of felt like he was not

1:20:15into it

1:20:15collecting a paycheck phoning it in not

1:20:18terribly but just kind of like that he

1:20:20had settled he had that poise so much

1:20:22that he poisoned himself right into a

1:20:24nap while and he always seemed flaky you

1:20:27know it's tough because you also have to

1:20:29take a look like his public persona sort

1:20:31of with a grain of salt which is that he

1:20:32never really enjoys talking about Star

1:20:34Wars and he doesn't enjoy doing

1:20:36publicity in general and he seems to

1:20:38have gotten very cranky and so like it

1:20:40you know being exposed to that it's

1:20:42sometimes hard to be like okay is he

1:20:43actually having a good time here or is

1:20:45this just like you know an attempt at

1:20:47acting

1:20:48well I can hear those Expendables movies

1:20:50and stuff like that which I've never

1:20:51seen and I'm assuming you're terrible

1:20:53and it's like he's not doing that for

1:20:55the love of the movies doing it for a

1:20:56quick paycheck is an easy job right and

1:20:58like you want to believe that this is

1:21:00different that he's not going to be that

1:21:02actor in this movie

1:21:03well I have things that give me high

1:21:05help and one of those was despite how

1:21:09terrible in ender's game was a movie I

1:21:11actually thought that his performance in

1:21:13there was was amazing i agree with that

1:21:16that is a highlight recently it's a good

1:21:18performance I like that I like that

1:21:19movie actually quite a bit but it's it

1:21:22he's good in it and i noticed him being

1:21:24good in it

1:21:25yes at the very least he sure as hell

1:21:26not phoning it in no the other thing is

1:21:29that he's smiling in this trailer

1:21:32yeah and I don't think I like you think

1:21:35about parrots you think about Han Solo

1:21:37smiling and you think about the schedule

1:21:40right you think about the like it's the

1:21:42slight twinkle in the eye and he has a

1:21:44little twinkle in design

1:21:46he's got it he's got it yep there that's

1:21:49a lens where ya if you if you

1:21:52there's also a blink and you miss it

1:21:53like he nods kind of at the camera just

1:21:56before it fades to black which is also

1:21:58kind of like this like this store

1:22:00about self-assurance there the cockiness

1:22:02so as a little bit in the Indiana Jones

1:22:04not do and I had as a kid indiana jones

1:22:06and Han Solo blended in my mind such a

1:22:08degree that they might as well have been

1:22:09the same character just in different

1:22:11timelines like Harrison Ford Harrison

1:22:13Ford was essentially get a character of

1:22:14my childhood playing those two roles

1:22:16which had a hell of a lot of similarity

1:22:18one like you know more mature and

1:22:21sophisticated that would be India

1:22:22because he did things that were kind of

1:22:23more adult than han solo but still a

1:22:25continuum of of scoundrels getting

1:22:28themselves out of scrapes you know so i

1:22:30think i think you're Harrison forward to

1:22:32at this age and and that this is the

1:22:36difference between him when he was doing

1:22:37the first set of Indiana Jones movies

1:22:38and Star Wars trilogy then he's like

1:22:43look I'm a working actor I've got a long

1:22:45career ahead of me I don't want to get

1:22:46asked about Han Solo in Indiana Jones

1:22:48all the time i got other movies have you

1:22:49seen the fugitive have you seen here for

1:22:52school having that

1:22:53yeah whenever Jack write a few of the

1:22:54jack ryan movies yeah exactly so now now

1:22:57look you're Harrison Ford and you're

1:23:00getting toward the end of your career

1:23:01and you know that when you die

1:23:05people are going to say han Solo in

1:23:07indiana jones i am Spock movie huh yeah

1:23:09so I feel I feel like he reached a point

1:23:12with the Indiana Jones movies and Star

1:23:14Wars was like sure you know like I like

1:23:16embraced embraced being in them now

1:23:18because he knows he's not he's never

1:23:20gonna run npm that people love him he's

1:23:23never gonna run away from it and people

1:23:24loved him for having those parts so you

1:23:26might as well just kind of go with it

1:23:28and and so I I'm encouraged by that I do

1:23:30however here's my theory because it is

1:23:33you know

1:23:34Chewie we're home and they've got their

1:23:36guns out i assume the next shot is an

1:23:38over-the-shoulder shot reverse angle of

1:23:41Lando wearing like his underpants and

1:23:44newspaper be like oh geez i was gonna

1:23:46give it back to you still wearing his

1:23:47vest and the fact that I was hoping that

1:23:50the Chewie we're home is kind of like

1:23:51more like a honey we're home thing chewy

1:23:53likely looking at this is like them

1:23:57rediscovering the Falcon and you know

1:23:59coming onboard think that with their

1:24:02guns out so they thought maybe they'd

1:24:03have to take the ship or you know they

1:24:05didn't know who would be there but they

1:24:06come in their home i think that the

1:24:08hardening thing here is also you know we

1:24:10don't know what the status of SE han and

1:24:12leia's relationship

1:24:14over the last 30 years they could be

1:24:15together they could not be together

1:24:17you think if they were together as

1:24:18clothes would be a little bit

1:24:20nice-looking she would not want to be

1:24:21seen with that kind of a scoundrel I

1:24:23have some standards get yourself

1:24:24together i'm gonna princess

1:24:26despite that the reassurance that Han

1:24:28and Chewie are still together after 30

1:24:30years are gonna be really married couple

1:24:32right exactly so that I think that it's

1:24:34it's comforting jazz we were talking

1:24:36about earlier in terms of relating it to

1:24:38where we left these characters is

1:24:39comforting to know that certain things

1:24:41are constant yeah yeah let's kick them

1:24:43out but you know she was always with her

1:24:45like analysis to heresy didn't recliners

1:24:49smoking cigars yep me and with them

1:24:51saying their home it's like well that

1:24:52where have you been before out that

1:24:54you're not home that you know it's been

1:24:56a long stretch here and during the

1:24:58entire time you weren't home or you

1:25:00weren't on the falken I mean what have

1:25:01you been doing what you been up to what

1:25:04you're playing golf

1:25:05december that's the last that's the last

1:25:09thing December in 3d mug

1:25:12yeah i saw that 3d and imax and like boy

1:25:15just whatever I wonder if they shot in

1:25:173d or if it was like like star trek into

1:25:20darkness where they did a conversion

1:25:22after the fact i hope it's going to be

1:25:25found in 3d that it was shot in and not

1:25:28i don't know JJ Abrams I think likes to

1:25:30likes to shoot it

1:25:31I don't think he accidentally it's a

1:25:34much more complicated rig to do a 3d

1:25:36shoot versus just doing a a a UH 3d

1:25:39conversion of 3d at this point feels

1:25:41like something with studios make you do

1:25:42to you every movie especially tentpole

1:25:45movie but it's like whatever the effects

1:25:48will be really effective III all 3d

1:25:50because those can be rendered with two

1:25:51cameras but the actual live action

1:25:53shooting if it's just shot with a

1:25:54single-camera they will do their

1:25:56conversion thing which is kind of lame

1:25:58so you know chaverim says they shot it

1:26:00in imax obviously there are advertising

1:26:013d and imax so I max just that the is

1:26:05the film format and the aspect ratio or

1:26:07just one of the other choices they shot

1:26:08on 35's close to the stock is the

1:26:11original trilogy as possible which i

1:26:13think i cry

1:26:14yeah i'm not sure if they shot on my

1:26:16next time next time he might have shot

1:26:17some scenes on imax I doubt they shot

1:26:19the whole thing I mean they advertise on

1:26:21exit the end of the trailer so yeah but

1:26:22they're went to movies the first are not

1:26:24shot on imax that are shown on

1:26:26max right but sometimes you do the thing

1:26:28where it's like well we can start on a

1:26:29regular screen but if you want an imax

1:26:31for particular scenes we change the

1:26:33operating yeah films partially in imax

1:26:36unknown how much is what I see here so I

1:26:39don't know there is one end is what

1:26:40Christopher Nolan with the dark knight

1:26:42movies he shot some scenes in imax and

1:26:45then the rest we were in 35 millimeter

1:26:47seems possible you would want to shoot

1:26:49this entire movie in imax I feel like

1:26:50it's kind of a bear i was gonna say

1:26:52before we finish music we should discuss

1:26:53yes which is to say though we get some

1:26:56very familiar themes here in some places

1:26:58the opening sounds very much like some

1:27:00of the cloud city music from Empire i'm

1:27:02going to say that this is pretty as with

1:27:05the first trailer business probably

1:27:06brand-new John Williams music

1:27:07deliberately designed for it maybe the

1:27:10trailer or maybe it's cut from the film

1:27:11at large but i guess at this point it's

1:27:13probably still deliberately composed for

1:27:15the trailer but we get you know a lot

1:27:17more you know the recognizable the force

1:27:19team at the beginning there which is a

1:27:21really nice touch but say it you know

1:27:23fades off and it transitions into a

1:27:25different sort of music then we heard

1:27:26really anyplace else before so and I you

1:27:29know obviously harkening back to the

1:27:31original themes is awesome it's but it's

1:27:33super exciting to hear brand-new John

1:27:36Williams Star Wars music which i think

1:27:38we as we many of us agreed was the best

1:27:41part of the prequels and they do a good

1:27:42job in this trailer like they know they

1:27:45have a few certain emotional cues that

1:27:48we all know from the classic themes and

1:27:49him Jam a lot of them into one trailer

1:27:51with transitions between them that they

1:27:53go smooth with that middle section that

1:27:55has the the new music the sort of the

1:27:56new scary bad things are happening theme

1:27:59transitioning smoothly into the other

1:28:01things that we know it's really good I

1:28:04can't wait to hear more John Williams

1:28:05start with music and i will not read the

1:28:06track listings but I don't do that and

1:28:09and i know i know this is a common a

1:28:11common thing to do with teaser trailers

1:28:14in particular and now we seem two of

1:28:16these nothing on it and because we've

1:28:18gone through this is frame by frame it

1:28:20brings it to the for all the more a

1:28:22large percentage of both of these

1:28:24teasers are black screens

1:28:26yep right because they just do not want

1:28:28to show you anything and they want the

1:28:30trailer to betray length but it's like

1:28:32how few frames of actual movie can we

1:28:33get a trailer and still have betrayal

1:28:35they do have music to fill in the gaps

1:28:37or whatever it's like okay you get seven

1:28:39frames of a draw

1:28:39three frames of the other guy walking

1:28:41with the nice like well I don't know you

1:28:43know JJ Abrams I think I said he really

1:28:45wants to maintain as much secrecy as

1:28:47possible which he did it also during the

1:28:49panel today trying to like you know

1:28:50keeping a tight rein on what people

1:28:51could say the advantage of Star Wars is

1:28:54that you can rely on music I think

1:28:55there's a lot of a lot of trailers to

1:28:58movies that you have to rely on like pop

1:29:00music or something right because the

1:29:01scores don't often carry an entire

1:29:04trailer and we are very dialogue light

1:29:06we have besides Luke's voiceover we have

1:29:09only the hands 0 line so in and that's

1:29:12kind of once again very close to what we

1:29:14had in the first trailer so we've heard

1:29:16next to nothing of dialogue from this

1:29:18movie so far and that was a that was

1:29:20also a tool employed by the prequels

1:29:22where yes the trailers had very little

1:29:25dialogue because if we had heard any a

1:29:27question that we have seen what we were

1:29:28in for they have you know lots of

1:29:31reaction shots lots of landscapes lots

1:29:33of ships and stuff some lightsabers

1:29:36clashing one or two small lines that are

1:29:38so small as to be completely innocuous

1:29:40and was like boy this movie looks great

1:29:42and but this this is doing the same

1:29:44thing obviously we expect the results to

1:29:46be very different in this case but you

1:29:47know being at the theme is a that is

1:29:50using the same tools employed and and at

1:29:52the music in that the scary music middle

1:29:54part that transitions to the I don't

1:29:56know damn well know that the track for

1:29:58the the final bit that's like the pre

1:30:01credits music and some of the movies

1:30:02there is a middle theme there that I

1:30:06know it's you know it's Williams and not

1:30:08you know who put it the key no one's

1:30:12yeah you can imagine what it's got some

1:30:14notes in it where it's building up to

1:30:16that final theme that that is that is

1:30:18the first bits that I've heard that

1:30:20could stand out to me as the signature

1:30:22sort of little musical motif of this

1:30:25movie different from any of the older

1:30:29movies as well there's a little section

1:30:30in the middle there right be right

1:30:31before the BBA pokes his head out

1:30:34we're transitions into the the more

1:30:35familiar music that middle section like

1:30:37when they're they're making the escape

1:30:39and the we assume in the TIE fighter in

1:30:41the hangar bay that little music there I

1:30:43can see as being sort of a core theme

1:30:45for this movie we'll see what would

1:30:48that's my question about it like when

1:30:49they have a dramatic scene or something

1:30:51happening

1:30:51will they have there

1:30:53own equivalents of the themes that we

1:30:54know or will they go back to the themes

1:30:56that we know and lean on them for the

1:30:58dramatic moments I think we'll have a

1:30:59little of both if the prequels are any

1:31:01indication because the prequel did a

1:31:02good job but I'll hardly ever say that

1:31:05the people music did a good job of

1:31:07actually creating new things it and

1:31:09mashing them with the themes that we

1:31:11already knew but establishing motifs

1:31:13that carried over the course of three

1:31:15movies so I think I wouldn't you know I

1:31:18think we'll see a mix of it and I i

1:31:20think we'll probably see the main theme

1:31:22obviously is a big part of the force

1:31:23that was a big part of it but i wouldn't

1:31:24be surprised if vampires got a whole new

1:31:26team to go with their new branding and

1:31:30there's only they did have a whole logo

1:31:31redesign and out yeah exactly so you get

1:31:34Yuki music find a theme music while

1:31:36you're spending the money know it but

1:31:37you gotta go to the people it's like

1:31:38look we know it's gonna be hard to top

1:31:40the imperial march but we have a lot of

1:31:41money so do what you can

1:31:44yeah I'd like that's not a question

1:31:45about this movie is and another thing

1:31:47that didn't feel as Star Wars movies

1:31:48again watching the original movies you

1:31:50just realize how those movies are

1:31:52practically music videos just constantly

1:31:54music big music big music that is like

1:31:57you know that those things where you

1:31:58watch stars without the music and like

1:32:00it just seems like it it's like 18 of

1:32:03the movie that it was like that the

1:32:05music is so dominant in in a way that is

1:32:08not in modern movies and modern movies

1:32:09yeah there's tons of sections that have

1:32:11no music sometimes it's barely any music

1:32:13at all or if there is just like

1:32:14percussion or like it just the Star Wars

1:32:17movies just constantly music in anything

1:32:19with any kind of like the music is half

1:32:21of the movie and that is not the style

1:32:24of for example the JJ from Star Trek is

1:32:26that's not a star trek shot when you

1:32:27just star wars movie I think the thing

1:32:29that they have this great music we hear

1:32:31enough of it in the trailer they need to

1:32:33just lay that under just everything you

1:32:35know every everything that you would

1:32:36expect that music needs to be there and

1:32:38the music needs to be as big an actor in

1:32:41the movie as it was in the original

1:32:42trilogy because it get like watch you

1:32:45know the asteroid chasing an empire with

1:32:47no music you're like now it's just a

1:32:49bunch of potatoes on strings again

1:32:50no it is it is not the same scene so I'm

1:32:53looking forward to that i really hope

1:32:55that the music is really just under

1:32:57everything in this movie I wanted to be

1:32:59like a big glorious music video in space

1:33:02yay

1:33:03yeah well okay there you go everybody 90

1:33:07minutes talking about one minute and 42

1:33:10seconds of trailer for this last final

1:33:13podcast is going to be a long 1i I've

1:33:15said it before I'll say it again i think

1:33:17in december the incomparable is just

1:33:19going to start a telephone where we

1:33:20broadcast spots about Star Wars

1:33:22throughout their yeah for like two weeks

1:33:25straight without a break just endless

1:33:28aspects of Star Wars maybe we'll start a

1:33:31spin-off podcast for those two weeks

1:33:33where it's just all star wars all the

1:33:34time I don't know how we're going to

1:33:36deal with it i'm kinda just not even

1:33:38worried about it right now if you can

1:33:39get a screeners then we go through them

1:33:41frame by frame because we're going to

1:33:42dinner theater multiple times but they

1:33:44were just going to be going based on our

1:33:45memories would really be helpful if we

1:33:47go to the movie frame at a time

1:33:49yeah that we can do that we can do the

1:33:50star wars minute that's exactly although

1:33:53it this radar minutes into it would be

1:33:5590 minutes each

1:33:56oh yeah well that that's like how the

1:33:58flophouse does a bad movie and they're

1:33:59done in 40 minutes with all the whole

1:34:01bunch of extra stuff we do a bad movie

1:34:02and it's two hours long

1:34:03no because austere yeah we're exhausting

1:34:07being an exhaustive and everything else

1:34:09alright but we've done it we've broken

1:34:11it down i'm very excited about this

1:34:13everybody always says oh well you know

1:34:16we were excited about the prequels yeah

1:34:17shut up i'm excited about this

1:34:20leave me be i would like to thank my

1:34:23guests for breaking down teaser trailer

1:34:252 so promise of new trailers to come for

1:34:28more even more analysis

1:34:30dan moore and live from Southern

1:34:32California at the Star Wars Celebration

1:34:33our man on the scene on assignment for

1:34:36the incomparable sure right thank you

1:34:39it's been a pleasure glad you could join

1:34:41us and take time out of your a trip to

1:34:43do so

1:34:44Jason were home all right

1:34:48certainly Caldwell live from a car or

1:34:51something

1:34:52oh I thank you for joining us from your

1:34:56mobile studio

1:34:57how about that how does that sound

1:35:01was that a wookie rhodora my dad can't

1:35:05get a baby 80 that's good

1:35:08tini and John and John siracusa thank

1:35:12you as always from your home where you

1:35:14live with

1:35:15for breaking down the the star wars

1:35:18trailer teaser trailer 2 with me and I

1:35:21was wondering at some point I might have

1:35:22the balance trailers they start having

1:35:23more spoilers but so far so good just a

1:35:26good job but not spoiling me with your

1:35:27teasers good job Shey she was wearing an

1:35:29Apple watch today to the cranials about

1:35:32that that's another podcast and so it to

1:35:35everybody out there

1:35:36thank you for listening to this very

1:35:37special edition of the uncomfortable

1:35:39will be back with something a little

1:35:40more normal next week until then goodbye

1:35:43and may the force be with you right

1:35:45that's the right franchise right yeah

1:35:47yeah

1:35:48boop-boop-boop-boop