127: ‘A Sack Full of Plucked Feathers’, With Guest John Moltz

0:00:00did you hear something just go bing no good as the new setup working great it

0:00:11comes with all these denials selective held set up this is my old setup was

0:00:16just a mic and then add a USB and USB goes in your computer and that is

0:00:21there's there's nothing else like a year this one has here's the box right here

0:00:35at San onyx blackjack premium to buy two USB recording interface from Mackay it's

0:00:44got a bunch of these dials and stuff you know look serious I mean it makes me

0:00:48feel very professional

0:00:49it's a very nice piece of equipment but I've got all these dials to turn

0:00:54Marco told me how to set it up he just sent me a picture into said just turn on

0:00:58the dials do this

0:00:59yeah so I did alright man that thing wow really you the one that made out with us

0:01:12160 like all of them has all this one is $125 two inputs something for the

0:01:24monitor and then looks like you're bad you're bad interfaces of the day week or

0:01:33whatever looks like it looks like an Access database gone wrong are you

0:01:40sending it by Sky Breeze ending in

0:01:42ICIC that it's shown up if I had just done with Marquez said in this edition

0:01:54of my door I would adjust it would have been very cinematic it would've been one

0:02:01of those things where would have opened you know you open the cardboard box from

0:02:04Amazon and then I would have seen this and then it just set the box down he is

0:02:11what ya I just started driving just drive right to the Atlantic Coast

0:02:17blackjack you yeah yeah I got this I just that's more manageable you know

0:02:28what that to me it looks like it might as well be this this it's five more

0:02:34dollars that used to have five more dollars than I can handle is five times

0:02:39as complicated as what youre is before I don't know if it's because I'm getting

0:02:46older I don't know I think maybe it's a little bit of column a little bit of

0:02:50column be like I don't think I've ever been very smart about dealing with

0:02:54complex interfaces but you know the album music stuff you know and and and

0:03:01iCloud photo librarian stuff I need I needed to be one day I like you know I

0:03:07like one down right but you say I sound good so we'll take it

0:03:13yeah yeah I think so what I now you've got crackerjack years right I am NOT

0:03:21know I've actually been strongly I bought a couple of Bluetooth headphones

0:03:29when I got the Apple watch ya and was gonna write up a thing about it but I

0:03:34just don't feel like I can do it because neither one of them is good

0:03:39which ones do I get really cheap and that's the thing is I feel like I should

0:03:45try 131 so that's it

0:03:53don't buy once there's thirty we don't feel like it's great advice I don't know

0:03:59if you remember I would join us journalist on a few weeks ago back in

0:04:05april we both about the same ones he's beat went which are overpriced

0:04:09great whatever to what does work ok yeah I think so that thing was is that we

0:04:19both were complaining about latency and then it was follow up a week or two

0:04:23later some kind listener of the show was a dude you gotta get the firmware update

0:04:27and I'm like firmware update for headphones I mean what the hell happened

0:04:31is the honest to god truth to go to beat audio and you tell them you got the

0:04:34beats whatever they're called Bluetooth and then you you get a download and it

0:04:41once you got once I got the download and install that it really did it I wouldn't

0:04:44say it fixed the latency because I'm still you know I'm used to the juror

0:04:48latency of wired had fun but it's the latency after installing the software

0:04:53update on these on these beats was like what you would expect from Bluetooth

0:04:58headphones you know it's like a fraction of a second liens he but it's reasonable

0:05:03one of these would not wouldn't with shipping and the other one was and i

0:05:11wanna running and the other one was rattling well I do think I Marco tweeted

0:05:19yesterday asked if anybody running iOS 9 beta is experiencing like some skips and

0:05:26fall out with Bluetooth had fun and I hadn't really thought about it but i i

0:05:32think I was I think I am and it's so it's it's like the beauty of you switch

0:05:37to bluetooth headphones is that now you're susceptible the software bugs and

0:05:41regressions break we've taken to see we've taken a look at it we've taken

0:05:47this thing that worked perfectly since before we were born right like 1970

0:05:53whatever would we were born where you know for use 68 whatever

0:05:57that is you know their headphones you plug the man and then you hear what

0:06:01you're supposed to hear and it works till you step on the headphones and now

0:06:06we've replaced it with something that when you upgrade your operating system

0:06:09maybe your headphones don't work so he did you know well now I have a new pair

0:06:25of them wearing as we speak right now because this thing has that big

0:06:31yeah and so I Marco say to him right now Marco told me I had it you know you say

0:06:35you have an adapter for sure I do but god oh you know who the hell knows where

0:06:40it is and he goes well then you should get new headphones too so i got now now

0:06:43wearing a pair of Marco approved headphones as well but thanks to

0:06:48cleaning out my basement I know exactly where my adapter is really you do you or

0:06:54him I said it's one of those big coiled you know it's a long cable and it's one

0:07:00of those springing cables through so I can walk around cuz you know back in the

0:07:06day you want to listen to music and walk around the room and do so what can I do

0:07:10that that was what was that was bluetooth headphones back then it was a

0:07:14truly cable is a good move your stereo are you still need to move around and it

0:07:21wasn't like he could put it in your pocket was the other thing before that I

0:07:29put my headphones for that kind of Jack for there was before the water came out

0:07:32yeah nice big fat had fun right so anyway yeah rather than by a $2 adapter

0:07:38about $200 pair

0:07:41but but in my defense my my headphones I had been wearing were they still work so

0:07:51I can't say that there you know somewhere

0:07:53depression-era grandparents are coming out of the grave to kill but they still

0:07:59work but there they date back to to light when I was doing the show it damn

0:08:04Benjamin I mean they're pretty old and and the the leather on the thing that

0:08:07goes over yet to solve peeling off whether it's quote-unquote leather yeah

0:08:13it's all right and so like every time I record a show now or do I get these new

0:08:19headphones little darlings are flowing well I was done with the show the first

0:08:22thing I would do would be like to shake my shake by Harry flakes of leather ad

0:08:26out so I thought why not splurging get into serious you're worth it

0:08:33deserve it and here's a year two years to rate this version of the shower this

0:08:44shows up gotta be up to three years now right cause this is episode 127 yeah

0:08:50three years old

0:08:54everything sold

0:08:58so what else is going on to do you have talked about music on 2009 oh well you

0:09:07know what do we should talk about that I talked about it with our own poll and

0:09:11and it was the day that jim has posted his well I lost 3 700 songs and then the

0:09:19show went into editing I think we're gonna win but it wasn't gonna air for

0:09:25like four days and in the meantime he got called an apple and erode follow-up

0:09:29and so was his call but he takes some of the music stuff out cuz it's not really

0:09:35you know it's a danger of recording a podcast as opposed to live broadcasting

0:09:40I thought it was funny but he took some of that but we could talk about what the

0:09:45hell he took out but have you with your experience been like anything like his

0:09:51work I have hardly done anything with it that's the thing yeah we were on

0:09:55vacation when it first came out and I signed up for it so who knows maybe my

0:10:00music is gone I don't know I haven't looked but I said I signed up for it you

0:10:07know cuz it's free for a couple of months and I wanted to try the radio

0:10:12stuff out which is new to me i mean you know the old guys never tried to

0:10:18streaming stuff I guess I've tried Spotify but it didn't really stick for

0:10:23me and I tried to radio but I don't know I haven't really done anything it seems

0:10:30like all my music is still there but I am terribly confused though because I'm

0:10:34I'm I'm another one of these people were I do pay for iTunes Match I do have

0:10:39thousands of songs that I ripped from CDs but now I've got the Apple music

0:10:45what about you

0:10:48yeah I didn't count my songs before a joint service so I have no way of

0:10:55knowing if anything is missing or not actually as far as I can tell I mean

0:11:01other than going back and looking for specific songs but they're not gonna do

0:11:04so I have not I can't say that I've experienced any losses things that I

0:11:11brought to the table in the gyms host was that I had a mean I had used it and

0:11:19kinda liked it I mean it was like listening to the curated playlists and

0:11:23like listen to the radio stuff and then I kind just forgot about it a little bit

0:11:29and that's kind of the way I've been using streaming services anyway it is

0:11:35I'm I had these playlists that I make music that I own and I usually end up

0:11:40listening to those and then when I get bored with it was I'll go undue

0:11:44discovery through some streaming service basically just say okay there's some of

0:11:49the songs I like me some other stuff like this stuff and then usually what I

0:11:53do is I got my body just under 10 years old so I kinda glad you know I gone into

0:12:02that other third phase again where I was just listen to things that I owned and

0:12:05then jim's post reminded me of music is out there and they went back and I tried

0:12:10again and I still i mean I agree that the the interface is kind of confusing

0:12:14like I really don't quite understand the difference between some of the tabs but

0:12:18I do like it for music discovery quite a bit I think the playlists are good and I

0:12:26generally find something that I want to keep that I started listening to it for

0:12:32any extended period of time and then the other thing I recently just tried the

0:12:38time before al is picking a song and then saying tell you to make a channel

0:12:43off thats on which I think works really well so as far as for using it for music

0:12:50discovery I really kind of like it and then the other thing that I like about

0:12:54it is because I do so many playlists because I manage my playlists myself it

0:13:00will sink those to the cloud now so I don't have to sink back and forth

0:13:04between my phone and macro my music is on to get the playlist honor yes I don't

0:13:12even listen there's really just what do you do you just pick songs are you want

0:13:20it wasn't immediately I don't know

0:13:22I don't really listen to a lot of music is the is the realization that I am to

0:13:28you I am really looking forward to it I wanna get it in my car somehow things I

0:13:40need like a new car I guess is that what you get is I have died because I have my

0:13:44phone in my car I have in my car

0:13:46yeah well I can put my phone in my car but I can't really hope my phone up to

0:13:50my car

0:13:51ok well used them I just need a new stereo well again when I get $200 but

0:14:00you don't necessarily have to go out and buy a new car again be a lot easier had

0:14:08the money I need to get out because they are so we're gonna have to buy a new car

0:14:16here's sign the cosine she's just the only name on it but I thought the do you

0:14:44get your license back why did I i

0:14:53I think it's such an ambitious undertaking the whole Apple music thing

0:14:56and I totally understand the I you know the one foot on the shore one foot on

0:15:04the boat

0:15:05you know it's kind of hard to make this shift from being a download focused

0:15:09service that you don't want to just pull the plug on and that you still want to

0:15:13support so if people do just wanna buy albums you can still do it to this news

0:15:18streaming thing you know I told you realize how complex this is and I agree

0:15:24with you there on the content side I think they nailed it I think you know

0:15:28from everything I've heard people really like these stations

0:15:31the ones that are you human curated people really believe in like beets one

0:15:35yeah which I'm not but I don't i can i can i mean to me that's like that was

0:15:40the whole purpose of this music draws this was to get away from that kind of

0:15:45thing I kinda wanna hear somebody talking you know it's not for me but I'm

0:15:50kind of amazed that so many people seem to like yeah I to me I think it's sort

0:15:55of trying to be when MTV was in the eighties

0:15:59you know here's what everybody's listening to you know where everybody is

0:16:03people who care about new music but you know me like when we were in the

0:16:08eighties there was just one MTV and like you know the top 10 countdown everyday

0:16:14at five o'clock whatever time it came on weird play everything from Motley Crue

0:16:19to Madonna to you know Lionel Richie you know they're worried it wasn't really

0:16:25segregated by genres you know it was just here is popular music everything

0:16:30from heavy metal to dance music or whatever you want to call it and you

0:16:36know here's what's new and I feel like that's sort of what they're trying to do

0:16:39with beat one yeah but on the flip side you know somebody has to make an app

0:16:47that presents all this and I do think it's kind of complicated and the other

0:16:53complaints that I've heard from some people and you know maybe it's just the

0:16:56nature of the sort of people who like to read my stuff you know that it's picky

0:17:03people but the thing that seems to drive some people really crazy is that if you

0:17:07don't sign up for our music and you do not even interested in it

0:17:11the new music app is Blake there's tabs that just don't apply to you anymore you

0:17:19know and the other thing I I know that people have complained about it when you

0:17:25do sign up rebel music it puts my music last minute abs raid and I thought that

0:17:33was sort of a weird thing to complain about it's sort of like you know is the

0:17:37is the rightmost tab the least important to have I don't know but I brought up to

0:17:41my wife and she Amy agreed she was like I

0:17:44to meet she thought that implies you know that's the least important thing

0:17:47where is it really like it might be you know depending on the size of your music

0:17:52library you might have like 40 or 50 gigabytes of music and it's all stuffed

0:17:57into one tab in the lower right

0:17:59yeah I mean the nice things one of the improvements that I found was going in

0:18:05you can turn off connect and restrictions I think it's sort of it you

0:18:15know it's like like he did you don't want kids did you want your kid to have

0:18:19the iPod Touch but you don't your kid to see you like to musicians wearing or

0:18:22something like that I don't know I guess that's what that's worth but you can

0:18:25turn off connect and then when you turn off connect it puts the playlist stabbed

0:18:29in the spot where connectors so that was kind of nice that actually made a lot

0:18:34better since I you know you so much and you don't really plan you don't really

0:18:43connected and i screw you never leave the house so why would any connect I

0:18:50haven't really heard one of the things I haven't really heard anybody follow up

0:18:54on like his connect working is it is our people using it is it taking off is it

0:18:59really is it is it is it paying all over again and nobody's using it or is it

0:19:04somewhere in between

0:19:07yeah I haven't seen anybody talk about it really no not since it came out it

0:19:13just it seems like it's like blogs for the artists in a way I mean they just

0:19:20seem to posts where they are posted pictures and maybe a little commentary

0:19:27but I didn't find it very interesting or useful at this point anyway did state

0:19:37win something about like saying that they were they were gonna bring more to

0:19:40it later but at this point I was not really it's just not the kind of thing

0:19:44that I'm interested in

0:19:47so are you in iTunes Match customer no I haven't been so that makes it better I

0:19:56feel like that's the point I feel like less of a problem now are the perfect

0:20:00storm of the problem and it never worked well I don't know I think I was to see

0:20:06this one of things I don't know if it's a couple I just tell the story again

0:20:09we're anywhere where I to family plan there but I don't have many gigabytes of

0:20:19music but she's she's got enough music where it's like her total it's pretty

0:20:23big and it's like she could never seen her whole library to her phone and nice

0:20:30know otherwise it would fill up so she got 228 gigabyte iPhone and now she can

0:20:37sing all libraries and have tons

0:20:39you know it's one of those things where I think with the 64 gigabyte phone

0:20:43combined with like a photo librarian stuff it would be tight and with 228

0:20:49then she has plenty of room including every single song she has in her iTunes

0:20:53library which is when she was so that if she can you know get in the mood to

0:20:57listen to something she can listen to it and I don't know where she's had like

0:21:02jeffries oldman work with cloud services it's like I would like setting up and it

0:21:08would say that you know she wants it all there she doesn't have to stream it she

0:21:12doesn't want the cloud icon she want all the music on the phone because she paid

0:21:16for the giant 228 you about phone and it looks like it's all there and then it's

0:21:21there and then you know couple months ago she came back from the gym and she's

0:21:25mad at me because all of her music is in the cloud and I'm I got a campy and I

0:21:33look at her music app and everything in the cloud and I can't explain it I don't

0:21:41understand so the way it was before music yes music so the way I fixed it

0:21:46for as I just turned her turned off my cloud match iTunes Match whatever it's

0:21:51called

0:21:52and just woke her up by USB cable to a Mac and just synced it like the 2007 hey

0:21:57you know just dropped iTunes said think all of the music all of our playlists

0:22:02and i said i fixture iTunes cloud and she said thank you and I now she thinks

0:22:09that I didn't cloud works perfectly well wasn't it wasn't the whole thing with

0:22:14match that you could just you just sign up once and it would match your Lee

0:22:18previous catalog and then you basically give you rides everything that you got

0:22:24from her and whatever and then when you don't have just then he just can cancel

0:22:29your subscription after the funeral for the second year in a really needed it

0:22:33unless you want it in her situation she was one of the clouds so she would

0:22:38really ask that first year having need nineteen right but there was supposed to

0:22:43be a way that you could just say but I also want all my music on the device you

0:22:47know yeah yeah I don't want to have to put down by then anyway and that is that

0:22:52is definitely currently the one thing that I find completely fiddly I don't

0:22:56quite understand yet is because I like having it all on the device to partially

0:23:01because I have a Sonos and I won't play no place like home soon as there has to

0:23:05be on the device at least until they get music which they said they're going to

0:23:10be doing but if I wanna play something on the Sooners that has to be on my

0:23:14phone

0:23:17you know I have to have something I've never physically someplace obviously

0:23:21can't play it from Apple's cloud because there's nothing about Apple's so and

0:23:28just trying to do that often before tells me but I think it's got a little

0:23:33bit easier with an update the recently did because I think maybe I just knew it

0:23:37was there before and I just missed it but now you can go into like a playlist

0:23:42and just say make this entire playlist available offline I don't know should

0:23:49download all the music so my suggestion my suggestion that and it was just a

0:23:55flipping off and maybe I'm just waving my hands here and there's good reasons

0:24:00for it but my suggestion tossed out there is why not make it an all new app

0:24:05just have an album Music app and then if you sign up for a pop music used Apple

0:24:10music app and it streams all the radio and the thing I'm thinking just loosely

0:24:17maybe I'm being stupid somehow maybe I'm overlooking something and yes if you

0:24:21have an iTunes library of songs that you already own that app could just see

0:24:25those songs and show them to you but it would never try to delete delete them or

0:24:29do anything

0:24:30magic with them and then you have two apps and if you don't want Apple could

0:24:36just keep using iTunes yeah which would play your music and iTunes could be i

0:24:41didnt and an apple music could be this app that much like the new photos from a

0:24:47cap is like a clean slate both in terms of like the interface it presents and in

0:24:55terms of the online banking stuff that it's supposed to do and there are a

0:25:01bunch of people like reactions are you know a lot of the stuff I write often

0:25:04gets polarized reactions but this was so completely polarized blew me away we're

0:25:10like it seemed like half the people responding to that were like yes exactly

0:25:14you know this is exactly what I should have done and the other half where

0:25:18you're an idiot you're completely missing the fact that the entire

0:25:22but here's what's funny I kind of agree with both sides obviously I agree that

0:25:27says this sounds like an interesting idea and the people this AM an idiot

0:25:29which is like half the the reaction we're saying the entire point of this is

0:25:34to have all of your music and one up you know one was the the slogan it WBC was

0:25:39one thought about music and I see the appeal of that but my my response to

0:25:46that response I guess is one thought about music sounds good it sounds like a

0:25:51good idea but I'm saying if you look at the actual software specially iTunes on

0:25:55Mac OS Windows which is probably the same it it's it's just it more

0:26:03complicated now than it ever has been and we've been complaining about how

0:26:06complicated it is four years

0:26:09at least since like the iPhone came out right i mean sometime around that era is

0:26:15when people started complaining that iTunes is getting you know too much I

0:26:19shoulders and now with Apple music in there to its more than ever it's all of

0:26:24the store it still has you can still buy it I S apps in iTunes so it's all the

0:26:32music store the entire iOS App Store but not the Mac App Store all of your music

0:26:39that you own and now it's got all of that music stuff that you subscribe to

0:26:43to me that's an awful lot that you're asking what happened to do

0:26:48yeah it does it's easy to say that cuz we don't know the real reasons why they

0:27:02actually won a particularly right but at this point it's just right and I want to

0:27:08tell you

0:27:08unwieldy rate Marco mentioned it to in his post that you know the season to

0:27:13think of a lot of reasons why they didn't go that route why they made it

0:27:16fully considered it and decided not to go that route and I am NOT saying they

0:27:20should have I'm just twice in this as an idea of maybe they could have and maybe

0:27:25things will be better

0:27:27the one thought that occurs to me about it is it might have taken a lot longer I

0:27:32mean look how long

0:27:33photos for Mac took it was announced that WWDC last year and they even said

0:27:39when they announced it would be early 2015 I think they said early 2015 or at

0:27:45least they they said it you know not coming soon and it still didn't ship it

0:27:50didn't come out of beta until late April or May I mean it was very close to a

0:27:54year after they announced it at the BBC 2014 before photos from Mac shipped not

0:28:00as a beta for Mac it it absolutely takes longer to start over even if your goal

0:28:07is to have a simpler less complicated interface so maybe that's the main

0:28:13reason that it's always easier

0:28:15to just keep tacking onto iTunes then take the time to start something no one

0:28:25of these opinion pieces or someone says that Apple's the new Microsoft which i

0:28:31think is ridiculous but this is like one instance where a kind of does apply at

0:28:37iTunes does seem like it's just become so overburdened with added features that

0:28:43is likely office was back in the early two thousands

0:28:48well it is is a general rule the idea that you just keep taking into this one

0:28:53is sort of the Microsoft in loose you know general terms that sort of a

0:28:58Microsoft Way of doing things and not the Apple way of doing things

0:29:02yeah and they've never gotten it had never gotten rid of anything it seems

0:29:08like you know we used to go through the through that throughout the 2012 movie

0:29:12and things like that where they would take something in the deadly blow it up

0:29:15and start all over again and you lose things but it often you'd end up with

0:29:22their app and in this instance they just don't seem to be doing at all what about

0:29:29they still have to they still have podcasts in iTunes I know and I West

0:29:36that see that's another at a perfect example rights on iOS they they yes oh

0:29:40and iOS they they created entirely separate podcast app and on the whole

0:29:46it's it's what matters anyway because I mean I know from the stats from the show

0:29:51that most people listen to podcasts on their phone there some kind of mobile

0:29:56device you know make sense but it's crazy that on the desktop they still

0:30:00have podcasts in there too right

0:30:04it's a maybe that's another sign of the Mac as a second-class citizen iowa's

0:30:08that they don't make a stand-alone utility with a client is the biggest

0:30:13usage by client yes well for me it's overcast but there's a little bit of

0:30:25selection bias there

0:30:26yes without question is because you know during forward Darren fireball readers

0:30:32and listeners of the show are way more likely to see even know I've heard of

0:30:38overcast let alone you know be smart enough taxes and somebody sent me after

0:30:47I tweeted I think I tweeted that I treated the stats that I get from

0:30:54SoundCloud which israel is the idea for this and they had they said that they're

0:31:00like the producer unlike a general interest

0:31:02podcast seemed pretty popular as you know something like twenty or thirty

0:31:08thousand downloads per episode and for them

0:31:14overcast was way down i mean it wasn't even close it was even it was even

0:31:18behind other clients just because it hasn't been out as long but yeah but i

0:31:25dont get it I'm trying to look it up here

0:31:28stats it it doesn't say podcast for iOS it's called like it's the background

0:31:37process that does the downloading ok so you probably can't tell the difference

0:31:46between that apple core media yeah it was the difference between that and well

0:31:54we all know you know but then it says so here's my here's my stats for the

0:32:01previous episode with Jason's episode

0:32:08so for the RSS version which is just about everybody overcast its 29,000

0:32:15apple corer media iPhone which I take to mean the podcast app on iPhone about

0:32:2317,000 then there's iTunes which is 4500 and I think that's iTunes on the Mac

0:32:29Apple Corps media iPad so it's interesting how do you get a broken out

0:32:35between iPhone and iPad is 2700 mozilla is 2400 and I think Mozilla means see

0:32:43this is where I guess I think it means anybody listened in any browser because

0:32:47you know like every browser says that they're like Mozilla because there's no

0:32:54freakin way that Mozilla would come in the real actual come in ahead of Safari

0:32:59and then downcast at a respectable 1900 pocket casts 1700 instant cast castro

0:33:09and then weigh down it two hundred poor old apple core media for iPod very sad

0:33:21not many and I think I would have said OJ year ago to joke that one of them was

0:33:26John Siracusa but now he's got three now so I do have good stats like that it's

0:33:33interesting but to me it's crazy that they still stick podcasts in iTunes and

0:33:45I wonder if some of it is just about put it in a different app now that people go

0:33:49not open the other after we leave for like a new service like music well and I

0:33:56guess and a guest it so that there's you know i mean they're called I i even date

0:34:01with this or blog and I always forget but you know it's funny that we call

0:34:04them podcasts but nobody listens on iPods anymore everybody listens

0:34:09I found some stuff but if you do listen to it on your iPod and it's not an iPod

0:34:17Touch it's you know like an iPod iPod then I guess you still need the sink it

0:34:21from iTunes so I guess I guess I understand why they haven't taken it out

0:34:27for people who need to sync to an iPod but for anybody just wants to listen to

0:34:31it I really think it ought to be a standalone app even on the Mac that you

0:34:35know works just like the IRS podcast app yeah but what do I know maybe that's

0:34:46next keeping that in the App Store for healthy be someday they'll come let me

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0:39:39about the high road the other days just thinking about a pop music and the

0:39:45problems people are having and the comp my problem seems to me like everything's

0:39:48working for me it's just that I'm confused about how it's supposed to work

0:39:52compare and contrast with the new iCloud photo library which I was more worried

0:40:00about because I care much more about my photos that I do my music and I have

0:40:06backups of everything I've got stuff but i just i don't know I just worried that

0:40:11it wasn't going to work and you know I backed up my phone beforehand so that if

0:40:17if I turned on this thing and it erased my photo library on my phone I could

0:40:22just restore the phone to where I was before I turned it off I did you know I

0:40:26backed up my back back to my phone turn this thing on

0:40:30you know couple weeks ago whenever and it you know again everybody had the same

0:40:36sort of first reaction if you have thousands of photos I think I've got

0:40:39like seventeen or eighteen thousand photos total from my old iPhoto library

0:40:46and what I took on the phone it did take awhile for them to sink initially I

0:40:51don't know couple of days something like that and then but lo and behold like you

0:40:57know maybe like a day or two two days after I signed up for this thing and

0:41:01turned it on and all my devices all my devices have all my photos and when I

0:41:05take a photo with my phone by the time I go to my Mac even if I'm just sitting at

0:41:10my desk and I go to the photos out there it is it's right there at the bottom of

0:41:14my you know all your photos it is

0:41:20you know for people who say Apple never gets cloud services writer something

0:41:25like this I would say the photos things seems like an example where they did

0:41:29have you tried it I have not right now because just because I was afraid of

0:41:39that initial sync process taking so long in also just the fact that I felt like I

0:41:46was gonna have to read the storage space because I didn't think I was gonna be my

0:41:50libraries and library but that's always been my problem is that I just have too

0:41:57many pictures in a lot of crap and should be thrown away but i dont wanna

0:42:00go through that process of going through every single thing and internet for what

0:42:05you go on Wednesday so I have not done yet and you know we did I guess I

0:42:15blogged about yesterday in a couple people on Twitter you know obviously

0:42:19it's not working for a hundred percent of all people there's some you know I

0:42:22don't know does anything ever work front of all people I don't know but it seems

0:42:26to me like there are a lot fewer people encountering problems with my club photo

0:42:30library then there are people encountering problems with the music and

0:42:35conceptually to me it is very very simple it's all of your photos and all

0:42:40of your eyebrows across all your devices in the future you know you have two

0:42:44options

0:42:45download the originals to this device whether it's a Mac or iOS thing and that

0:42:48means you get the original image that was taken from the camera or optimize

0:42:53and this is this if there's something that's a little and wavy it's what does

0:42:57this optimized photo storage mean you know somehow means you don't get on this

0:43:04device you don't get the full res versions will iCloud will resize them to

0:43:10you know make sense on your device so I guess you get smaller ones on your phone

0:43:14and bigger ones

0:43:15back but in either case if you turn on optimized storage you're not going to

0:43:19get the original image

0:43:23their complaint I've seen on Twitter from people is that even with optimized

0:43:27photo storage on it still takes up too much space that it's taking up 10 or 20

0:43:31gigabytes on people's phones and they don't have that much space maybe because

0:43:36they bought a 16 gigabyte founder twenty or thirty two or something like that

0:43:40which is a reasonable complaint but then if you have a guest their argument would

0:43:45be that if you have us a space constructed device during your entire

0:43:49photo library even optimized is not a good idea for that device is I don't

0:43:56know what the solution would be I guess I guess Apple couldn't theory store even

0:44:01tinier thumbnails or something you know I'm not quite sure isn't that would be

0:44:07kugel serving the Google service was down real I guess because it may be that

0:44:14just is their web based roots showing because you know something like Flickr

0:44:19or any kind of web based photos stored service it is the idea that it even

0:44:24could download all your photos doesn't even make sense because there's no way

0:44:27to get five megabytes of local storage or whatever the limit is for a website

0:44:32with local storage that's stored in there as well there is OK SMI my labor

0:44:42is almost 50 gigs your iPhoto library my photos library ok you have upgraded to

0:44:53photos I've ever to photos yes how many times turned on how many how many

0:44:59pictures 8516 it's the big things yeah probably yeah

0:45:10the videos to yeah yeah yeah yeah they call it photos but it's it's it's just

0:45:15like photos on your iPhone it really mean anything you shop with the camera

0:45:21yea certainly very nice to have but I just don't feel like paying for an extra

0:45:28is now well what do you saw on the three tier yeah I'm still in the area

0:45:41gonna work but that raises a good point though that it's twofold would be which

0:45:48was why is the free tier still just 5 gigabytes for this company with 200

0:45:57again and it seems like it always comes up when you're on the show it's like

0:46:00let's paint him coaxed into an end to so we'll put it will put in our standard to

0:46:06claim disclaimer that we understand we're not trying to say we're

0:46:09know-it-alls and we know more than Apple how to spend money but you know and that

0:46:14the way that you accumulate two hundred billion dollars in cash is by you know

0:46:19maybe not

0:46:21willy nilly on every idea that too it is on a podcast say that you should spend

0:46:26money I'm just saying it seems to me though given what other companies with

0:46:32less money than Apple offer for free storage

0:46:37it just seems to me like maybe Apple could be a little bit more competitive

0:46:42in that regard as to how big the free tier is and that it would be in their

0:46:45interests in terms of getting more people to use this you know that the

0:46:51photo sinking which I think they've put a lot of work into and would like people

0:46:55to use it in the flip side would be the 16 Gigabyte devices yeah

0:47:05because even if you know and and this was like when I asked Phil Schiller on

0:47:10stage last month

0:47:12part of his answer defending the 16 Gigabyte devices is that more and more

0:47:17of people storage is cloud-based but even if you know as as these people

0:47:22responding me on Twitter pointing out even if you turn on optimized photo

0:47:25storage if you have a lot of photos it's still consumes a lawful lot of storage

0:47:33on your device or at least awful lot if you have a 16 gigabyte device yeah if

0:47:40you have a 16 gigabyte device you basically don't own rooms where it's

0:47:46really it's just and I lived with a four gig iPhone for two years

0:47:53well I think it makes sense this is one of the differences between music and

0:47:56photos if you just use the streaming for Apple music I guess it makes a lot of

0:48:00sense on a 16 gigabyte device right that you don't have anything stored locally

0:48:04almost nothing that it really is just cashed and you're listening to the you

0:48:10know the beat when radio station or something like that that's fantastic

0:48:13right that you can listen to a wide variety of music you can search for

0:48:17music you can get the urge to listen to a certain artists and as long as you've

0:48:22got the bandwidth of you you know you know why fire enough space on your

0:48:26cellular plan you can just listen to it without worrying about the storage but

0:48:32with the photos even again there's just no way to to to participate in this if

0:48:37you have a lot of photos in your library without using some significant degree of

0:48:40local storage and 16 gigabytes just is is pretty brutally short for that

0:48:48they don't really sell any degree from them or do they not new but they but not

0:48:57not top tier but if you go and buy like an iPhone 5 seed it's only a guess it's

0:49:02still yeah absolutely I guess so yes 0 for all my concern that song by an

0:49:14unlikely if there's a mine now if there's a by now and next button next on

0:49:23the website I guess yes technically it is but I think your only choice yeah

0:49:33your only choice if you buy a 55 today is to get any good and you know it's

0:49:40just the way they work so if they don't move the baseline for the brand new top

0:49:45tiers success and success plus which again I'm just getting that what they're

0:49:50gonna do in September if they don't move the base line up to 32 then I don't know

0:49:55what they're gonna do you know if they keep the storage tiers the same it seems

0:49:59like all the storage tiers will be the same and then the mid tier one is still

0:50:03gonna be only 16 gigabytes and low and one might still only be eight gigabytes

0:50:08of it seems completely crazy I mean the good news is that they have have done

0:50:18the work to make iOS 9 require a lot less storage space initially to upgrade

0:50:25which is it was definitely mean they've pretty much flat out said it was a

0:50:29problem at WMC

0:50:31privacy but for a lot of this stuff it really is you couldn't even upgrade your

0:50:37phone right and it's like it really it really starts to do it with especially I

0:50:44think with the camera stuff really starts to directly conflict where it's

0:50:48like how can they brag about how nice the camera is and how

0:50:52how high the quality is a video store about four pictures right

0:51:01take one panoramic photo burst mode up to two images now I know we talked I

0:51:11think we've talked about this before but would you would you go back to Florence

0:51:15that's a great question I in theory I would in fact I just spent almost a week

0:51:28using my four inch iPhone 5 ask because I had Apple iOS nine on it and I put my

0:51:35sim card in it you know actually try I have since gone and upgraded made my

0:51:39regular iPhone 6 to the latest iOS beta because it's that it I at least remain

0:51:46don't you know you go to switch to the highest bidder in your phone dies don't

0:51:50don't complain to me but for me at least it is it seems at least a solid as I so

0:51:56why not and I really really like San Francisco fun tonight it's good for

0:52:00testing and stuff but I spent a week using it on my 5s before aid took the

0:52:05plunge with my phone sex and I really really liked it really really love I

0:52:12love the size and I know that the screen is smaller and you know rocketing

0:52:17towards needing reading glasses so I appreciate the bigger screen size but

0:52:22just as something to carry around I i i would do it but the big butt is here's

0:52:28here's how I think they're gonna do the phones this year and I don't think it's

0:52:31hard to predict I think they'll come out with iPhone 6 as an iPhone 6 plus and

0:52:38they will be exactly at the prices of the current iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 place

0:52:44and it will have a new a nine system-on-a-chip instead of the eight

0:52:49and 11 new camera in both

0:52:53I guess when people say the rumors that there's gonna be a a rose gold option

0:53:01that makes sense to me and you know just like when they first went to the iPhone

0:53:055 s was when they added the gold just so this is something that looks like them

0:53:11different yeah and you can't say you can tell at a glance this is the new one who

0:53:17knows maybe though even-handed eyes the the aluminum differently go from space

0:53:21greatest piece black or something like that on the black one but just you know

0:53:25just a color difference or something like that then I think one teardown they

0:53:31will have a new phone called the iPhone 6 see which would be I think four inches

0:53:38possibly all new colors compared to the five see I was being so we'll probably

0:53:44the iPod colors that's exactly like instead of that sort of past le pallet

0:53:50may be more of like a bold bolder colors like the new like the new iPods yeah

0:53:56exactly what you mean they come in silver and gold to yeah well but I don't

0:54:01think they would do that with class you don't think they would do those with

0:54:03these are no there are limited but I think colors like those colors yeah but

0:54:11I think it'll be the same type of plastic case that the five C as in you

0:54:15know just just with new colors AAA

0:54:19the camera from the six i phone sex and because the case of sticker you won't

0:54:26have the little nubbins to get a little sit flush it'll be just like an iPhone

0:54:31sex except a four-inch screen and a plastic exterior which is a great phone

0:54:38and I'll be very tempted by a but I suspect by the bigger one because I want

0:54:44the camera really even more than the bastards system-on-a-chip as I want the

0:54:49best camera possible I think I might get it

0:54:54I would be very tempted I think I really just prefer that size and and I held one

0:55:03of those printed 15 see them before but held again recently and I really liked

0:55:13it I just felt really good and in the plastic given the plastic that's a nice

0:55:18plastic and the seams are well put together a nice little phone so I

0:55:23actually think I'm gonna go where you have right now at six so it seemed the

0:55:34same phone just a smaller smaller size in plastic

0:55:4064 so that would be that would be a question for ya I wonder if they do well

0:55:50actually no I think the iPhone 5 at 16:16 32 so what you need is you need

0:56:02Apple to the minimum rate they would have to if they go 32 64 128 then the

0:56:09two tiers for the mid tier one would be 32 and 64 yeah I I could say I could see

0:56:17them doing it I really could and then and then I think the I guess the 50 S

0:56:23moves down to become the the free phone that is a little weird that's where it

0:56:32maybe they keep the five see around you know and have the five see in the

0:56:36sixties it is it is a little weird at the bottom party at the bottom was with

0:56:41was confusing to me what do they do down there they have to have a free phone

0:56:46right and it gets the reason it seems a little weird to have the five SP the

0:56:52free one is without turning it on and without knowing what the specs are of

0:56:56the system on a chip or the camera

0:56:58it just looks like it the more premium device compared to the plastic five see

0:57:03so I don't know they could just do a 5s 5s internals and plastic yeah but what

0:57:10they call it they already have a five see five ccs this is the Apple circa

0:57:221993 would have been done for me to perform at the iPhone perform performace

0:57:316400 CD of course it's called the CD has a compact disc player 640 I CD it has

0:57:46wifi of course we have to put an eye on what do you think

0:57:55do you think you think you're gonna go smaller if I can get 64 I think I will

0:57:59if it if what we're describing is what it is a bit if it's basically iPhone 6

0:58:04internals and a plastic case in the cases are not the current ones the

0:58:10colors are not the current ones they're more like the current iPod ones in the

0:58:15current place see how can I get 64 gigs I will probably go with 666 see i think

0:58:25im sexy and I told you I do and having spent a week with it just now and I've

0:58:31never done that before you know like I usually buy you know nine months into

0:58:34the iPhone cycle I can't go back to the old one cuz it feels too slow but the 5s

0:58:41to meet only hold up and it feels a little bit slower than the six but not

0:58:46much Its a really good found a 5-2 me like probably the best I've ever made

0:58:53like it's hot it's held up passage prime better than any previous phone and I

0:58:58miss that form factor great detriment to that phone to me is that this was the

0:59:02pinnacle

0:59:03from technology and just the way that the sides are flat and the size of it

0:59:10feels to me like I couldn't drop it if I wanted to just it just feels like a

0:59:14probable whereas the six just feels it still feels like it's it's a slippery

0:59:20the bar soap every time you take it out

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1:06:09medellin cartel back in the eighties was a famous is the guys you know hundreds

1:06:17and hundreds of millions of dollars in drug profits and you know couple of

1:06:21years ago they caught him and they locked him up and he busted out of

1:06:24prison and he went on the lam and then you know the us- got involved and last

1:06:32year they caught him again and apparently with what they said was kind

1:06:37of an interesting story it's read it is that the official story was that it was

1:06:41with some intelligence from the United States and then the Mexican national

1:06:46their equivalent of the FBI busted the guy at like a resort hotels in Mexico

1:06:54like light life on the lam was apparently really tough for this guy but

1:07:01there's reports now from other people that it wasn't even the Mexican special

1:07:06place it was us' DEA agents wearing the Mexican Federal Police uniforms just for

1:07:15the optics you know that they do know that it didn't look it doesn't look at

1:07:19the people in Mexico if you us' you know law enforcement agents are running

1:07:23around Mexico but they arrested the guy and aus said let us take this guy

1:07:27extradite him let us charges in the us-

1:07:31I busted out and and as they were arresting them in you know arraigned in

1:07:37whatever they call it the guy swore he stood up and he said you know I'm going

1:07:42to bust out again and the Mexican government said no you know I'm not this

1:07:49time we're putting a supermax prison in unbreakable and I and the other guy

1:07:58broke out again broke out my my joke is that they run the place like Arkham

1:08:02Asylum but there's video in his room there in there in the first place so the

1:08:09story that they said the day after he broke out is that they somebody you know

1:08:13sympathetic to his cause some of the guys from this is you know it's cartel

1:08:17they they started making the building there is a building that was put up a

1:08:22cinder block type you know very very simple structure about a mile outside

1:08:27the prison and then inside this building this they dug a hole and they started

1:08:31digging they dug a tunnel underneath the prison right into his cell and then they

1:08:37cut like a little 20 inch by twenty cents a square hole in the shower in the

1:08:41shower in his cell and so there's video footage is his cell was under

1:08:46twenty-four hours seven days a week

1:08:47surveillance video surveillance they have the footage he just peace in their

1:08:51pacing for a couple of minutes and then he walks over to the bed put on a pair

1:08:55of shoes and he walks into the shower and need and he just disappeared just go

1:09:00down

1:09:01and apparently they're they're they're really good his cartel is sort of has

1:09:08you know like mining level expertise digging these tunnels because apparently

1:09:13that's how they get a lot of the drugs into the united states that they've

1:09:17they've got a good network of tunnels like this but you know it's a mile and a

1:09:24little you know hand and tunnel but but they had like a little track down there

1:09:30pretty cool they have pictures of it you know they've shown the media they they

1:09:33they rigged up like a dirt bike motorcycle on track so he didn't have to

1:09:39call the whole way and they had like lights down there to it you know but

1:09:44then he could just get on this little bite that on a track and then it would

1:09:47just screwed on right out to this building and now and now he's gone

1:09:54related is located in ventilated tunnel nearly a mile but now it appears there's

1:10:01some there's some there's some controversy about it though because

1:10:03apparently they have not let anybody from the media they've let people from

1:10:08the media down into the tunnel and they've let people into his cell and

1:10:12look at the whole that was dug and China flashlight down there but nobody has

1:10:17verified that the tunnel goes all the way from this building right into his

1:10:21cell and there's so the conspiracy theory is that he didn't even have to do

1:10:26that he did that part was fake to there'd be like some kind of cover story

1:10:30but that room getting out but yeah but that the corruption is so bad I was just

1:10:35so many like just waltz them out the front door yet that you know somebody

1:10:39you know decided you know and there's there's a couple people who work in the

1:10:42prison who've been arrested all ready for you know not doing their jobs but

1:10:46that maybe they took it you know maybe he cut them a deal where it's like you

1:10:49know you and your family so much money you know you'll do a couple of years

1:10:53five years but I'll make it worth your while and they did you know and then

1:10:57they made this fake tunnel just have a cover story I don't know either way that

1:11:03I know I like the previous

1:11:08and we think that they made the whole time yeah I do too that's much more much

1:11:14more romantic the other one is disappointing that is just simple

1:11:20corruption I don't mean to laugh I mean it's you know right

1:11:33kill anybody on the way out but somebody oh and the other thing this is the other

1:11:40part that makes it so amusing is that he got into it or some either here or

1:11:47somebody with his official Twitter account got into a bit of a ruckus with

1:11:52donald Trump have you heard this is sleeping so does I guess he busted out

1:12:02and Donald Trump it does fit right into donald trump's narrative that you know

1:12:06that mexico is not to be trusted in you know that there's sort of a criminal

1:12:13element road running while down there whatever I don't know donald Trump shut

1:12:17his mouth off that if he were president you know nobody breaking out of you know

1:12:21we did see that I didn't understand it

1:12:25chapel was but but then after he shot his mouth off there is an official

1:12:37Twitter account for el chapo that treated it better shut his mouth and

1:12:45back

1:12:46Japanese media intern

1:12:50angrily

1:12:56interesting on a resume

1:13:00social social media manager for I just like they did think I busted out of the

1:13:09second you know they had the most secure prison in all of Mexico for the second

1:13:13time with all this publicity and he gets on Twitter and since starts getting

1:13:18upset Nadal of trouble as bad if anybody out there is listening from campus group

1:13:31highly respectful we are we are and who you know had talked to you for escaping

1:13:38no no no it's implied we don't need any help shop open but i just i just googled

1:13:49this chapo put 200 million dollar bounty for Donald Trump dead

1:13:55well that's from TMZ I don't know if that's true yeah you know if only if it

1:14:01comes straight from his Twitter account can you can you trust has the check mark

1:14:10notified verified chapo what else is going on in a follow-up to follow up on

1:14:27that with Jason snow on the previous episode we had talked about the new

1:14:32pebble time and I complained about the mighty big complaint about the iPod

1:14:39worry that the screen is very very low contrast I couldn't read it and the

1:14:44partner too small and that the the the vibration alert is way too strong and

1:14:50powerful

1:14:53so they came out in the meantime I guess they did listen to my show they put out

1:14:57a software update that gives you a little bit of control over the screen

1:15:01and over the tactic response and so i guess im email from people who like holy

1:15:06cow you just complained about this you know they've fixed it doesn't really fix

1:15:11either of them in my opinion the topic thing maybe a little bit but it still is

1:15:16is tactic thing it seems to be installed the update it does seem like turning

1:15:22that down lessens the feeling like I'm getting an electric shock when it

1:15:25vibrates embarrassed but it still loud I still can hear it and brightness thing

1:15:32isn't doesn't solve any of the problems at all because the brightness is only

1:15:36when the back later on and it is brighter and that can help a little bit

1:15:41but it doesn't help the contrast at all and it doesn't help at all with the lack

1:15:45of contrast when the backlight isn't on at all so I still have to give a thumbs

1:15:52down to the time the SmartWatch market share numbers that came out I guess so

1:16:10yeah that's a that's part of the news from this week we're in the SmartWatch

1:16:16doesn't say specifically Apple Samsung and others and people would think people

1:16:24would be bigger than Samsung but I really have no idea about that Samsung

1:16:28might be helpful but gotta rank somewhere on their they've sold you know

1:16:33the only the only have three Apple Samsung and others so this is a strategy

1:16:38Analytics saying that Apple ones capture 75% global SmartWatch market share and

1:16:46cue to 2015 which doesn't mean it doesn't seem terribly surprising

1:16:55even though even though nobody really knows I know nobody knows so there but

1:17:07nobody wrong on the other hand over to know how many Samsung has ever ship

1:17:11because Samsung stop eating all those numbers for everything not just for

1:17:15watches but first smartphones and stuff to a while ago so you know I think

1:17:22missus with Dan and on our show and why is Apple AAPL the one that seems report

1:17:33all this stuff and nobody else yeah it's always a little funny to me at that

1:17:37Apple which has long had the reputation as being the most secretive companies is

1:17:42the one that you know the most about its sales and stuff like that and now that

1:17:50they're not there's there's still being held to a different standard Amazon

1:17:56doesn't even know what label on access I like the port numbers now sits now and

1:18:08he was tweeting or posting some of the results you know from other companies

1:18:13that posted stuff you know the last week or two

1:18:18interminable is reported its quarterly results and couple other companies 22 he

1:18:23calls them Amazon hurts so among the many charges he made for Apple's

1:18:28quarterly results he made 14 Applewhite sales and it's just has a bunch of

1:18:34quarters with nothing going up but then all I'm going up and with no access to

1:18:40three sales are up I'm since before it was not the first quarter is really the

1:18:49best trained shoot straight up

1:18:57so I haven't really been paying attention what has happened to Apple's

1:19:03stock price since then I know overnight when it first with the first release

1:19:07their results

1:19:11their stock dropped 6 percent overnight it still down although it's not yet

1:19:20returned a little bit well from the way they reported the results

1:19:26yeah so its 122 now before they announced the results of its up around

1:19:36like 130 thirty-two year yeah but it's been sort of flat since about February

1:19:44you know going up and down but getting out of that same range which you know

1:19:53again my financial expert but it it seems to make sense to me that large

1:20:02very large and predictable companies should have a relatively stable stuck

1:20:08like I don't know if it has been and I can laugh because i dont have my money

1:20:16but I and I worry sometimes I was thinking about the other day that I

1:20:21cracked jokes about the volatility of Apple's stock price and I occurred to me

1:20:26that there's probably an awful lot of people who read during fireball listen

1:20:29to the show who is very fun and again and I don't think it's you know I don't

1:20:38think it's the needs over there you know there there are fans of Apple so they

1:20:42put their money in Apple I think it's probably because they're smart people

1:20:46and it's been a good buy for a long time

1:20:49and I think that a reasonable person could reasonably expect that their

1:20:55future is remained break so I just had nothing to do with you know investing in

1:21:01the company's you're a fan it's right and i think that when they when they

1:21:06reveal record-breaking quarterly results and this and the market cap drops fifty

1:21:14billion dollars in after-hours trading it's not very funny at all where we

1:21:21laughing I do think in all seriousness though I think and again I'm not an

1:21:26expert I know I know that you know one of the strategic differences the company

1:21:30has made in this Tim Cook area from the Steve Jobs era is that they've gotten

1:21:35involved in the stock buybacks and the will call when you give money back to

1:21:42the dividends the dividend I don't know maybe not so much but with the stock

1:21:48buybacks they're actually you know it's it's a way to mitigate that because

1:21:53presumably if Apple Smart they've waited until after they announce these results

1:21:59to do more than that you know if they could if they are smart enough to

1:22:04foresee that the that the fact that there's so many people whose

1:22:08expectations were so high that this was considered disappointing even though it

1:22:13broke records you know that's the nice thing about being an apple investor

1:22:18currently is that even if the stock was flat there are other things that make an

1:22:23attractive buy right right you know just sit there and hold it in your gonna more

1:22:28money than you would compare compared to interest rates we're spending it like I

1:22:34do

1:22:40but the five you look at the five-year good you know there's like there was a

1:22:48big there was kind of a run-up in 2012 and then it came back down towards the

1:22:52end but since then it's been climbing fairly steadily yeah if you smooth out

1:22:582012 to 2013 it still goes up but it's you know did in the long run clearly an

1:23:09anomaly yeah yeah boy did we get there we got over the fear that Tim Cook was

1:23:16not the man for the job

1:23:20well it's but but the the the run-up was under Tim Cook to because Jobs died at

1:23:26the end of 2011 I think there was sort of I think there was sort of them I

1:23:30think there was a mania in 2012 where there was holy shit they didn't they

1:23:35didn't just shut the door they didn't just shut the doors it seems like the

1:23:40company is still you know employees are still showing up for work

1:23:44the lights are still on in Cupertino so there is like a mania and they ran it up

1:23:51and then there was the second half of the year which is some of the best clam

1:23:57chowder of all time with the Apple board should fire Tim Cook why is it taking so

1:24:04long for the Apple board that fired him

1:24:06times good times about to get a bit there was a great time to be Tim Cook

1:24:13said he was worried at all

1:24:22al gore's have been written in sounds a little bit more like a bill clinton but

1:24:34still bill clinton's on line 339 reading Business Insider

1:24:47Forbes contributor to the stock is doing well the company is doing yeah I have a

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1:28:47about iCloud you can say what you want about 16 gigabyte funds but you start

1:28:53cracking jokes about molds that your door so if you see in this is a new

1:29:01documentary coming out about Steve Jobs the documentary yeah that was not the

1:29:08only and it seems to me like they are guess it was done I don't even know why

1:29:14the independent movie business seems so complicated because they screened at

1:29:19South by Southwest this year which was March Alex Gibney and I i've seen some

1:29:31of his movies I saw his Scientology movie going clear scientology in the

1:29:35prison of belief which was really highly regarded and I find scientology

1:29:40fascinating it's just such a weird crazy thing like it's a religion religious

1:29:47cult fur which celebrities get letters I well I don't know your door

1:29:47cult fur which celebrities get letters I well I don't know your door

1:30:00you know I used to get a lot of Scientology paraphernalia ever tell you

1:30:05that no well and I was growing up I read a lot of science fiction you want to say

1:30:12i i consumed it differently I was at the word read as much of it graciously a

1:30:19real as much of it as I can get at some point I read some of the books by ron

1:30:27Hubbard Africa at the series I don't know is one of the you know something

1:30:31some crazy shit that he wrote late YS that when they made the stupid now I

1:30:36read that one too

1:30:37there was Battlefield Earth which is one novel and then there was another one

1:30:40which is like a series of ten novels and and I didn't I did I didn't think it was

1:30:46good and it was weird it seemed a swearing on not making this up I'm not

1:30:52making this up it seemed weird to me and I was like 10th or 11th grade and it

1:30:56seemed weird to me that the bad guys in this is space opera it was something

1:31:01about aliens and you know most people on earth don't know the aliens are there

1:31:05and then there's a good guys protecting our and there's bad guys from another

1:31:08planet who are trying to take over the earth or something like that and the bad

1:31:12guys are so psychiatrists yeah I thought that was a little weird until you look

1:31:23into town and then suddenly begins right but I guess I guess I like mail ordered

1:31:31the books or something like that was a nice time I started getting scientology

1:31:36stuff in the mail and I i did not ask for that and I didn't even know it was

1:31:43the same guy remember in the eighties there used to be commercials for the

1:31:46Dianetics all the time

1:31:48yeah yeah yeah with exploding and stuff like that you know they sent me some

1:31:55fight and my dad you know it wasn't like an intervention but my dad was like how

1:31:58come all this stuff is coming for you

1:32:00now as I know what I read this guys like you know you know star wars type book

1:32:05and I guess they signed me up you know that I guess dad's advice was don't get

1:32:13into this but anyway give me made a documentary about Scientology that was

1:32:25well-regarded and and I thought I enjoyed it but I didn't think I enjoyed

1:32:31it because I'm interested in the subject but I thought it was a sort of weird

1:32:35documentary but now he's made one about Steve Jobs in this is the one of the

1:32:41Apple executives objected to DQ was the one who tweeted about how was

1:32:51mean-spirited or something like that yeah we knew yeah and I guess he saw it

1:32:57at South by Southwest yeah I guess I hope we thought I hope he's not saying

1:33:00it without having seen it and the preview looks great up the trailer in

1:33:08the in the show notes here I am copying and pasting it right now so I don't

1:33:13forget doing a good job just as a medic no I do think I've been doing a better

1:33:17job of actually putting in a claim to put in Charlotte the trailer looks

1:33:25interesting and it makes it look like it's you know a fair balance look at the

1:33:30guy's life but the poster to me is a little worrisome did you see that have

1:33:37you seen the post sir no I'm not trying to link to know poster is sort of a

1:33:43weird so this is Steve Jobs the man in the machine yes not to be confused with

1:33:51the other popular movie ex machina

1:33:55Steve Jobs build the robot man wearing where's the poster for this movie I

1:34:04don't know gotta find the position the one that's just a space yeah it's like a

1:34:12weird photoshop job that's not what you know its they've they've they've sort of

1:34:18yeah definitely

1:34:19you can find the original image for that and it's like they've made him look

1:34:23sinister I don't know how else to say it but they've sort of sinister

1:34:29me the background black instead of you ladies initiate the shadows and then

1:34:37standing in a room kinda gave Mike devil eyes you know I mean like they've

1:34:42they've had different yeah well he had you know very dark very dark eyes so his

1:34:54eyes wouldn't you know you wouldn't be able to see it looks at you know I mean

1:34:58like if you have dark brown or black guys you don't see that are not the

1:35:04cornea iris like that but it makes it look sort of like that what happened to

1:35:10Anakin Skywalker when he went to the dark side so I'm a little worried I do

1:35:19things like I am going to watch this movie but I did not watch have you ever

1:35:24watch the Ashton Kutcher one I have not seen any of them I did not see this one

1:35:29because I didn't even see pirate cecilia is there really don't have a lot of

1:35:35times for these

1:35:38I mean I would rather ineffectual account and I guess this is this will

1:35:44probably be more factual but you're not going to go see this I don't have plans

1:35:52to go see it reverts to one point I don't know it seems like the thing that

1:36:02I would go see so that's why I don't like it but it seems like they're

1:36:06beating and more power to them because I don't feel like this is a dirty trick

1:36:11but you know the Aaron Sorkin movie is coming out in October this documentary

1:36:16is coming out in September so in a way to sort of don't clearly the documentary

1:36:20is gonna have less you know it's as an independent production it's not going to

1:36:24have the you know the marketing behind it that Aaron Sorkin you know

1:36:29blockbusters stars studded fictional fictionalized fictionalized when you

1:36:35called someone yeah based on a true story book you know thing is gonna have

1:36:39to come out beforehand and you can kind of piggyback you know on the publicity

1:36:44yeah but I'm not quite sure how how is screened at South by Southwest in March

1:36:51and isn't coming out until September I don't know if they have the sort of a

1:36:55pre-release yeah I was out like a rough cut or that you don't know any cute

1:37:02called it mean-spirited but I don't know maybe that doesn't mean that it you know

1:37:06that I don't know why I like the guys previous films enough that I had to give

1:37:11it a shot

1:37:11it seems like you could you could kind of portrayed him in any way you want to

1:37:21show you can portray him in many different ways

1:37:23well there's definitely there's definitely some things about Steve Jobs

1:37:27that weren't great think anybody necessarily denies that but a new future

1:37:37if you choose if you chose to just show those things though it wouldn't

1:37:40necessarily be an accurate picture right so be curious and sounds as though you

1:37:45know

1:37:46you know he's he's gotten some people who used to work for him to to you know

1:37:51do interviews I'm interested to see how recently they worked for like a disaster

1:37:58from the eighties and nineties or has anybody who's worked with them

1:38:02years you know each changed over the years

1:38:09yeah but nobody was ever laid back but I think most of his his worst screaming

1:38:18was probably during the third story well no no I think you're right I think

1:38:25you're right that most of it and the worst rain that but that there were

1:38:31still some good stories from recent years you know of no yelling and

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1:41:37well yeah and it is are you mixed feelings simply because of what you

1:41:43wrote

1:41:44yes okay yeah so I get the I didn't get your what you're alluding to their so

1:41:55where did you where did you read sued Schilling where did it say chillin

1:41:59connection between bond and his enemy that's on their website if you go to

1:42:03double of 7.com and ok so I think I saw it on youtube or something ya know I

1:42:10will put this in addition it I'm trying to remain is boiler free as I can for

1:42:14this although not quite to the degree I'm doing for the Star Wars Star Wars

1:42:18movie I don't I don't even watch the second trailer that's where I'm going I

1:42:26could make you say Star Wars and I'd go now I just got them with the spektr

1:42:40trailer I did go there i read it and I'd whiskas our friend of the show day which

1:42:45is vouched for me that this was not a cause he's got no self-control is

1:42:51absolutely no sense whatsoever so if if they if they released a trailer called

1:42:58the spoiler trailer here's the spoiler trailer it'll spoil everything

1:43:03everything at the Davis case would watch it and then regretted instantly but then

1:43:09he would he would watch he vouched for me that the trailer the second the new

1:43:14trailer for Specter was not not spoilery and I agree with his conclusion having

1:43:18seen it I don't feel like I know the plot of the movie really other than

1:43:22other than what the title alone tells you which is that you know all right

1:43:27specter's yeah right I was bothered by the simulation that there's like some

1:43:35kind of boyhood connection between James Bond actor well this is a maybe I'm

1:43:40wrong about that I don't do not see it does not say boyhood no no

1:43:45right but I don't I got a bad feeling about it

1:43:52indeed I agree that if you're if your position is correct then I so it's not

1:44:06that the best the best email I got from a reader saying hey I don't think we

1:44:11should I got to hit somebody wrote to me forget forget everybody writes me here's

1:44:15here's what made me feel better about it this is my face my fear is that

1:44:19Christoph Waltz is Blofeld now so far so good if they're not saying it they're

1:44:27saying Christoph Waltz is in the film they're saying he's like the leader of

1:44:30spektr if his name is Blofeld fantastic I but they haven't spoiled that I don't

1:44:36know if it is or not everybody is thinking maybe that would be great my

1:44:41worry is that they're gonna say take James Bond blow felder like long-lost

1:44:44brothers or something like that yeah there's something like family

1:44:49relationship or something like that and somebody who reads verifiable said you

1:44:53know I was worried about that too but then I thought about it and realized

1:44:56that there's no way even even if they had the idea to do that they'd realize

1:44:59they couldn't because Austin Powers did that and they would realize they would

1:45:07realize that they've stepped into the realm of parody ready and goofiness

1:45:12because Austin Powers and already done there with doctor Yves

1:45:17so they're worried the worrisome aspect would be if the people making making

1:45:24spektr have anything right and like they're putting the finishing touches on

1:45:31it right now they're doing that the color correction you know double double

1:45:36checking with spelling and all the titles in the credits you know make sure

1:45:40everybody's got their name spelled right in the credits entered into the editing

1:45:45room

1:45:49this is the plot Austin Powers in here it seems to change before scenes in

1:46:01November to record some of these lines

1:46:04well the trend in the trailer it looks great doesn't it you know basically

1:46:14everything you want to see you know and James Montrealer yeah I also I like the

1:46:20idea that without any kind of single overarching plot that spanned all these

1:46:26films that they're tying together some of the characters from the entire Daniel

1:46:33Craig era you know with mister wait who's played by is named

1:46:38real creepy looking guy just per Christensen he was the the bad guy

1:46:44pulling strings in Casino Royale and then at the end of Casino Royale James

1:46:50Bond shows up at his portion right and then it's you know the the best part of

1:46:57quantum of Solace is that it opens like immediately afterwards and he's got he's

1:47:01got them in the trunk of his car which is really cool it was kind of a cool cuz

1:47:06they never really did that with the bond they never really came together in any

1:47:09way they were all for the most part in a couple of references herein there in the

1:47:16summer for instance has never happened the other guy right but my favorite

1:47:22example of the opposite of that

1:47:24and back in the day when dan and I were you know review and all these movies

1:47:28they they used to recast a day just cast the same actor and totally different

1:47:33roles yeah and so in and you only live twice which was the one word bond goes

1:47:41to Japan sean connery film

1:47:44testers with one after Thunderball and he meets like that mi6 agent told

1:47:53British older British fellow who's you know has been their station guy and

1:47:57Tokyo for a long time and then get is a very nice guy but he says to James

1:48:05Bond's kind of a famous scene he's he's going to make him a drink and he's gonna

1:48:11make you my camera teenies stirred not shaken right and of course that's

1:48:16backwards but connery being a gentleman just says sure you know good you know

1:48:21don't make a fuss don't make a scene and then you know the poor guy before I

1:48:24think before he could even finish the drink he got stabbed

1:48:29anyway it happens that same actor is the guy who plays Blofeld diamonds are

1:48:36forever to movies later so 66 these early seventies the only way you would

1:48:46see the movies became a TV you know yeah you see it again is it came on TV right

1:48:51so why not right we like the guy we know the guy like makeup on and that in him

1:49:03like a week or anything he looked exactly the same except that instead of

1:49:07wearing a kimono he was wearing you know whatever you call those suits that

1:49:11Blofeld Nehru jacket yeah exactly I even posted an easter egg

1:49:23rate from Casino Royale ya gonna point which was the guy who tosses in the car

1:49:32keys in the parking lot as part of the building department car and then he like

1:49:36ran into somebody's car look like held no no no no spelled you go finger that's

1:49:46right yeah and and then the license plate

1:49:53things that because that's what color for a goldish I had no license plate to

1:50:04me was stretching it cause it's why I feel like if they were gonna do it on

1:50:08the license plate maybe it would have been more like the the atomic number for

1:50:11cold or something

1:50:13no I mean it's in Syria that I think the hex color was really stretching it it's

1:50:20not it's not really very goldfish but but his car was gold

1:50:25it was a gold-colored like Lexus or something like that and he doesn't mean

1:50:31it's like the exact same sweater I i to me it's like beyond cool incidents like

1:50:35maybe they weren't actually saying hey this is goldfinger maybe they were just

1:50:39kind of goofing around and it's not really yeah that's what it seems well

1:50:45yeah just a funny thing to put in ya like we have to have a guy who's gonna

1:50:52toss him the keys and we want him to you know he's going to he's going to be a

1:50:58jerk and purposefully back in his car into it so we're gonna make the guy a

1:51:03jerk who just sort of assumed that you know that he's you know the ballet and

1:51:11then once you go down that path of making the guy making goldfinger it's

1:51:16kind of a joke I saw another thing to up I will put it in the show knows somebody

1:51:23I didn't treat this yet but somebody found out so we figured out there

1:51:27there's a in one of the old in Fleming novels and it was her Majesty's Secret

1:51:31Service which was widely regarded as one of the best books that he wrote and

1:51:37that's the one that george hasn't Lazenby played the role and

1:51:45is is polarized outside I it's my least favorite of the classic Bond movies some

1:51:50people love it though but anyway in the novel James Bond has to escape from

1:51:57somewhere and he doesn't have any weapons on him so he uses his role acts

1:52:04as a quote unquote knuckle Buster so it's like brass knuckles so he takes his

1:52:08Rolex off but around his fists and stainless steel Rolex do you know muscle

1:52:16jobs and then even said it was again the novel was like like the next day he

1:52:21liked woke up and the first thing he did was go to Lake jeweler to get a new

1:52:25Rolex because it's it's only it's a somehow it's like described as a key

1:52:29only whites that you can trust to like crack skulls with somebody figured out

1:52:36by free streaming casino route at the very end of Casino Royale in the fight

1:52:41scene in Venice while the building is sinking at some point when James by this

1:52:48fighting those guys there's a scene where it looks like he turned his left

1:52:50wrist upside down as though the way you would take off your watch and then cut

1:52:55immediately but then if you look at all of the punches he throws in the next

1:52:59scene as you can see the Daniel Craig has a watch around is very clear yet

1:53:04very very very thing and so the speculation is that you know but there's

1:53:08also and that's the one with the really really prominent product placement we're

1:53:12on the train where he first meets Vesper Lynd and she's you know what you to know

1:53:19I need he says I am good at poker as I can read people and he reads her and

1:53:24then she tries to read him and she says you know but you have a Rolex and he

1:53:28goes Omega you know which is super super it not only is he wearing an Amiga

1:53:33wristwatch he says it and he says it is though it means that you know it's

1:53:38better there relax its like the best product placement they could ever have

1:53:41the speculation nobody knows it but the speculation is maybe the you know they

1:53:45were going to use it that way and they're making people like you don't we

1:53:49don't want to see the wife getting smashed

1:53:53I think they're not so I think if the only two people shut that down there out

1:53:57of their minds I think that that's it it would have liked even doubled what was

1:54:03already the best watch product placement and bond history but it was a tremendous

1:54:14amount to see those cars destroyed right exactly yeah I mean like Mercedes was a

1:54:21big part of jurrasic world haven't seen any dinner CDs gmail things everywhere

1:54:30in in even when there's one is one I thought was kind of egregious but I like

1:54:38the movie but the kids are the kids run off on their own escape their sort of

1:54:43person watching them and they were often thrown in there too they won't have a

1:54:49good time and she's just like plugging in through the terms of the the part and

1:54:54and so the older kids as they go see something I guess they go see the giant

1:54:59dinosaur thing and then the older kids says to the younger kid go see something

1:55:07else really cool and then they cut immediately to her Mercedes and then you

1:55:13know and like somebody walks in and you know it's sort of thing but it's like

1:55:18they clearly paid for that no way but yeah those things did shoot up and put

1:55:30out by by dinosaurs yeah yeah so who knows maybe it wasn't maybe it was just

1:55:35cut out just just for the sake of cutting out maybe it wasn't even at

1:55:38their request who knows but it was a nice I swear to God I will put it in the

1:55:43show notes but it was it's a nice homage to the original Ian Fleming's source

1:55:48material yeah so and it came about

1:55:54somehow the guy who wrote about it was on a movie blog and he got the tip from

1:55:58a collector who bought the original prop that Daniel Craig war for those scenes

1:56:05it was a replica of whatever Omega Seamaster he was wearing at the time but

1:56:12with US steel band but with a revised the watch itself was like rubber and he

1:56:18bought that original problem

1:56:22drove people it made him he was like I did you know somehow I guess he talked

1:56:26to somebody with the props department but it didn't make any sense that they

1:56:29would even have that prop and then he like went back and watched the movie

1:56:33role closely in like freeze framed and figured out you know where it is used

1:56:40how many movies as he and that's a good question I think I think he's in the 12

1:56:50now I think it's at least one more in that would bring him 25 right yeah yeah

1:57:02yeah

1:57:05which you know and and would also bring him to you know you don't wanna run into

1:57:11the Roger Moore problem where you even even with Hollywood makeup you look just

1:57:16like two old yeah that he's not that old she's a great lady three when you feel

1:57:31really old by the time you like this action scenes were just fruits these

1:57:37guys struggling to move and then all of a sudden he's running I think that was

1:57:44all I think he had to like run up the stairs of the Eiffel Tower it really was

1:57:51like this

1:57:52the add this stunt was just Roger Moore running up a four way to me out

1:58:01was no good for a week after that

1:58:06to his credit he was on the record is that he he wanted to wrap it up

1:58:14afterwards everyone he made in 1881 or something like that and yeah they yeah

1:58:21and just made two more he made two more than anyone in any way that feels like a

1:58:30show I don't have anything else on my list of time no talk about jon boat

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