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117: ‘I Touched Ron Johnson’, With Guest John Moltz


00:00:00   indeed you did you actually need the eye patch or was that just for you want to [TS]

00:00:03   help I needed a not like because it was like a gross hole in my eye that needed [TS]

00:00:12   to be covered up on those kind of red but it was never like gross silica sole [TS]

00:00:16   wasn't caused me and it wasn't for the call log I needed it because the vision [TS]

00:00:22   that I was so weird and that there is no other way that I could see like to read [TS]

00:00:30   or watch TV because my brain couldn't yet to destructive it was way too [TS]

00:00:36   disruptive so I used an eyepatch for at least a month reading and watching TV [TS]

00:00:41   and then I started by like now using it for TV and now I don't use it for [TS]

00:00:47   anything but it's weird like if I close my good I i cant read my computer at all [TS]

00:00:52   but that's partly because of the highest just not good but it's also the case [TS]

00:00:58   that my prescription is no longer valid so I actually have an appointment going [TS]

00:01:02   soon to get a new prescription for that bad I but right now like his record the [TS]

00:01:08   show I'm wearing my glasses and the lands in my glasses is as interesting [TS]

00:01:14   glenda my glasses is I don't even know is this interesting it's it's [TS]

00:01:24   fascinating I mean we can we talk about baseball where kids long story short [TS]

00:01:32   really what what started the whole saga for me was that last year the vision in [TS]

00:01:37   my left I started getting [TS]

00:01:39   I thought blurry and I just thought it meant that I needed a new prescription [TS]

00:01:43   and I was also having trouble reading with my left eye which I attributed to [TS]

00:01:48   being 41 and I thought well I'm going presbyopia need reading glasses but only [TS]

00:01:53   from my left eye and I talked to my regular optometrists and the just was [TS]

00:01:57   really can't go for like bifocals or whatever you know you want to call them [TS]

00:02:03   until both sides need them that your brain doesn't really process it right if [TS]

00:02:06   one doesn't am i right I still didn't to he said really you know it I know it's a [TS]

00:02:11   pain but you'd be better off his reading with you know let me ride i dominated [TS]

00:02:16   you read and so I did and introduced into a got a new prescription and it was [TS]

00:02:21   a lot stronger and for years and years and years I mean like really I mean [TS]

00:02:24   honestly scientists are wearing glasses by left and right eyes had more or less [TS]

00:02:28   the same prescription like usually my right eye was a little bit better [TS]

00:02:32   meaning it it didn't need quite a stronger prescription but from us in my [TS]

00:02:37   thirties they were identical and I like when I wear contact lenses I didn't even [TS]

00:02:41   have to keep track of left and right I had the exact same lens for both eyes so [TS]

00:02:46   that's that's the sweet spot [TS]

00:02:48   golden years I use I had that for a while but me being able to see so last [TS]

00:02:56   year my left eye prescription got a lot stronger am i right I actually got [TS]

00:03:00   better he said that sometimes happens when you get to be 40 so I actually got [TS]

00:03:04   a new prescription where the lens in my right eye was actually a weaker [TS]

00:03:07   prescription then what I'd been using but they left I got stronger and in the [TS]

00:03:13   months went on and I realized you know a few months after having been torn and [TS]

00:03:18   being kind of pleased with the you know corrected version that by December my [TS]

00:03:25   leftovers everything was blurry can't distance was buried close up asbury just [TS]

00:03:28   wasn't good [TS]

00:03:30   and so does seem like a mystery and nobody couldn't figure it out like even [TS]

00:03:34   making that I got a new stronger prescription and it was really strong [TS]

00:03:38   like worry seemly strong because it would gotten so much worse since July [TS]

00:03:41   and turned out had a cataract which was really hard to diagnose because it [TS]

00:03:48   couldn't really see it and 41 is super crazy super young to have a cataract so [TS]

00:03:55   wasn't even on the list of things that they suspected [TS]

00:03:59   but like Indiana Jones years exactly my right eye has no signs of a cataract [TS]

00:04:07   which is also most people don't get cataracts until they're in their sixties [TS]

00:04:11   or seventies and like fifty-five is considered young for cataracts but the [TS]

00:04:16   younger you are when you get a cataract the faster it worsens with so being [TS]

00:04:22   super crazy young 41 to have a contract which is why I like my vision went from [TS]

00:04:27   this kind of his maybe I need new glasses too wow I don't see so good luck [TS]

00:04:31   or severe cataract surgery is routine it is like going to the dentist supposedly [TS]

00:04:37   those terrifying to me and the retina detachment was it was like a botched [TS]

00:04:43   surgery or something like that happened a week later but it's like a one in a [TS]

00:04:46   thousand complication from any sort of I surgery that once anything goes in the [TS]

00:04:51   front of your eyes [TS]

00:04:52   the lands in the very front and right now he's also in the back but anytime [TS]

00:04:57   anything gets switched around in there there is a small chance that little bit [TS]

00:05:00   of the fluid and get behind the retina and come up there so I had the stuff [TS]

00:05:07   they do with eyes just seems insane to me crazy seems like to me after a [TS]

00:05:11   psychopath to like I think all surgeons sorta have to be a little bit like a [TS]

00:05:15   psychopath like a little bit did sort of it I do i mean it have to be a little [TS]

00:05:18   bit detached from humanity 22222 have that did not be repulsed by the idea of [TS]

00:05:26   cutting open somebody even know you know you know you have to have this rigorous [TS]

00:05:29   logical mind you know you're doing good for the person by doing this thing that [TS]

00:05:33   your instincts tell you is is not good [TS]

00:05:37   joining that's the you know for people who've been wondering how in the world I [TS]

00:05:40   had to record it was had cataract surgery which was in fact successfully [TS]

00:05:46   good lens implanted put in to replace the cloudy cataract lens is in perfect [TS]

00:05:50   shape it's just that like 1000 or one in five hundred years you know some really [TS]

00:05:55   really 99% small number of people have cataract surgery then have it rendered [TS]

00:06:01   and it turns out I was one of them so anyway that is also my glasses from my [TS]

00:06:08   left eye are so weird because they were really really strong because at the time [TS]

00:06:12   we were trying to counteract the cataract [TS]

00:06:16   anyway but I have been I have been nearsighted since grade school basically [TS]

00:06:22   now now in the last five years started so not only am I gonna need a pretty [TS]

00:06:31   soon probably have some sort of do they make bifocals they do I think they do or [TS]

00:06:40   don't work so good but they're kinda weird so I guess I'll just everything [TS]

00:06:44   you do weird things they do weird things were they they will give you the two [TS]

00:06:49   different contacts one for each eye and let 1 I'd be kinda when I see close home [TS]

00:06:53   when I see far and you leave the office and you think this is horrible but if [TS]

00:06:58   you give it a week your brain kinda it kicks in but there's a long story short [TS]

00:07:03   is that nothing once you get into the record it but once you're in that [TS]

00:07:07   situation we doing stuff like that you just never just see you know even though [TS]

00:07:14   I've been days are over here sighted since teenagers to with contacts to meet [TS]

00:07:21   contact lenses were magical up until I was 41 years old where I would I i never [TS]

00:07:26   had any discomfort with them I always found them to be like you spent thirty [TS]

00:07:31   seconds in the morning and 30 seconds at night and all this on your eyes are just [TS]

00:07:34   perfect and I could see everything clothes and everything far and it was [TS]

00:07:38   like 20 20 vision in both eyes but they didn't but he didn't used to be so good [TS]

00:07:44   until they came up with disposable ones [TS]

00:07:48   originally had hard contact lenses which where I got a nightmare and then after [TS]

00:07:54   that they came over the plastic with soft plastic ones you were supposed to [TS]

00:07:59   just like you got one pair is best to keep them and you're supposed to do this [TS]

00:08:03   like crazy [TS]

00:08:05   complicated maintenance yeah I members and never and never they never got [TS]

00:08:10   completely clean and I was always get them [TS]

00:08:13   like I infections I was when I had a hard lenses I might when i was just [TS]

00:08:18   wondering all the time so I would do I think I would like to take one out and [TS]

00:08:23   so I would walk around it must make contact [TS]

00:08:27   see really well on the 1901 yeah that's probably like you being just ever so [TS]

00:08:32   slightly older than me because I just the hard ones but when I first started [TS]

00:08:36   wearing them as a teenager i believe i staff to one place six months at a time [TS]

00:08:39   and at the end of the cycle it then I should say was a little little bit but [TS]

00:08:48   anyway it's you know it's all the other thing to about the retina detachment is [TS]

00:08:52   it seems to be like a serious it's a sports injury like it takes literally [TS]

00:08:58   takes like six months to a year to completely recover and it's only been [TS]

00:09:02   two months for me and it is getting better it's you know it definitely is [TS]

00:09:11   improving but it's very very slow gradual we should start a pool on what [TS]

00:09:15   was going to happen to you next year and now you're I was maybe it wasn't my time [TS]

00:09:22   is my middle finger knows my middle finger what is your middle finger yeah [TS]

00:09:29   really I thought he was just as the bandage was the race the bracelet look [TS]

00:09:34   like they might be taking your phone [TS]

00:09:38   someone had a bad weather really did [TS]

00:09:47   so I'll talk to composites will see what will get a pool going to be something I [TS]

00:09:56   yeah I I went to a doctor though and had a full check-up because I thought you [TS]

00:10:00   know this is actually I think I had to because I think they weren't gonna dudes [TS]

00:10:05   there is some kind of surgery I was gonna have needed it but I've checked in [TS]

00:10:12   everything so in that regard I was all I had such a bad run I was a betting on [TS]

00:10:17   Fri Dec 21 a.m. the watch and I keep yeah yeah it's where that's hard to [TS]

00:10:29   breathe a sigh people asked me and I know that they mean well and I don't [TS]

00:10:32   want to bring everybody down and complain but it is it just requires a [TS]

00:10:37   long explanation and the problems with my vision are actually very hard to [TS]

00:10:40   explain to cause I'm always just assume that we have bad vision everything [TS]

00:10:43   cloudy or not cloudy blurry or not blurry and it's not blurry this it's [TS]

00:10:49   like it's so hard to explain that division out of my left eye is like [TS]

00:10:55   distorted is the word but the way it's distorted is sort of like I did I need [TS]

00:11:04   corrective lenses to help focus to get the picture right but like if I take my [TS]

00:11:07   glasses I have no lens on certain close distance because I can see in focus but [TS]

00:11:15   the image is distorted in weird ways like the best I could the best analogy [TS]

00:11:20   can think of is think of a movie projector InFocus but it's projecting [TS]

00:11:24   onto stucco wall like a really don't look perfectly round very sharp n like a [TS]

00:11:40   scratchy there's like it there's an image editing tools like that there's [TS]

00:11:45   some do some shopping in Pixelmator there's some things you can do to ya [TS]

00:11:49   like almost like stained glass for ya [TS]

00:11:53   you know and but it's you know it is definitely improving but it is improving [TS]

00:11:58   at a very slow pace that it's it's hard to tell [TS]

00:12:01   day-to-day basis you know that I can imagine that it's sort of like if you [TS]

00:12:05   have I got him as Adam Wainwright the picture for the st. Louis Cardinals [TS]

00:12:13   Wainwright had torn Achilles tendon in his ankle the other day which is [TS]

00:12:19   terrible injury terrible terrible injuries to his Achilles is torn like a [TS]

00:12:23   full year to recover I'm sure that you know he's probably already had the [TS]

00:12:27   surgery and it's like I'm sure like two months from now he's still gonna be 10 [TS]

00:12:30   months away from being covered so you know his ankle still gonna feel like [TS]

00:12:35   shared a week later it's going to be improved but it's still going to feel [TS]

00:12:40   like shit you know and I feel like that's what my vision is like this point [TS]

00:12:43   but also the legacy of an Achilles tendon [TS]

00:12:47   you know he's gonna he's expected be able to pitch again like the unfortunate [TS]

00:12:51   do that on every time but the unfortunate truth is I'm never really [TS]

00:12:54   gonna see right under my left eye but on the other hand on the other hand I am [TS]

00:13:02   right I dominate I wasn't going to talk about this but it's funny I do get have [TS]

00:13:08   so ever since I brought it up in made it public at all I've been inundated with [TS]

00:13:11   emails and stuff like that from all of them very very genuinely concerned [TS]

00:13:16   wishing you the best in the grand scheme of having serious vision issues I'm [TS]

00:13:24   incredibly lucky because I'm right eye dominant in my right eye is still 2020 [TS]

00:13:30   with corrected vision and shows no sign of character their best explanation for [TS]

00:13:36   why I gotta cataracts a young is probably that I had some kind of injury [TS]

00:13:39   could have they said it could have been like as a teenager playing basketball or [TS]

00:13:42   something [TS]

00:13:43   some kind of trauma that damaged the tissue around the lens and it just you [TS]

00:13:47   know takes a long time but the fact that I was so yummy to probably wasn't like [TS]

00:13:51   age-related it so it's very unlikely even if I do eventually get dinner and I [TS]

00:13:59   you know I can go to a specialist you know who would be like super duper extra [TS]

00:14:05   careful with the cataract surgery [TS]

00:14:07   knowing that I have you know obviously at some kind of tendency towards threat [TS]

00:14:12   issue and there's no reason to expect that I would you know suffered another [TS]

00:14:16   99.9% chance of success [TS]

00:14:20   you know that I've been on the wrong side of that again so you know and so [TS]

00:14:24   being 2020 in the dominant I it's it's funny because that's the other thing too [TS]

00:14:28   about my vision as i recover from the thing like two months later my brain is [TS]

00:14:32   clearly getting way way better just sort of ignoring mister left I you know him [TS]

00:14:44   like he's like you know it is no longer is no longer part of the team yeah it's [TS]

00:14:50   like they're well no he is but it's like it's ok that he's done not really [TS]

00:14:56   contributing so much you know I tell you it was weird thing though it's like it [TS]

00:15:04   and it is a sign that I'm getting better it is combination of the I getting [TS]

00:15:07   better and and again my surgery was just a week and a half ago to follow up and [TS]

00:15:12   he said he was very pleased and doctor he's he's great he's literally like [TS]

00:15:20   maybe one of the best retina surgeons in the world so I'm super lucky to have but [TS]

00:15:28   he's also very very clinical ladies went into surgery was a division never gonna [TS]

00:15:35   be the same again [TS]

00:15:38   he's been very very easy to set realistic various under promise over [TS]

00:15:42   over delivers sort of doctor and he said he's very very pleased with what I [TS]

00:15:48   that's what you want to do they'll be good as new and they come out they're [TS]

00:15:57   not come out and it's better than you expected that's great but it's worse [TS]

00:16:01   than it's been weird like I said it's a relatively slow pace of improvement but [TS]

00:16:08   it's still only been eight weeks and it's been this weird graph flight what [TS]

00:16:13   better just keeping the iPad over the left eye and just being one eyed with a [TS]

00:16:19   twenty 20 I we're trying to make the best out of this mixed picture and it's [TS]

00:16:25   been weird at first I using the iPad from most everything I even took it [TS]

00:16:29   supermarket stuff cuz it was just the vision of the left I was just the gas [TS]

00:16:37   bubble made it even made it was effectively blind you know it's like [TS]

00:16:42   when you finally understood what it meant to be where you're not blind like [TS]

00:16:46   everything looks black your you see color and stuff like that but it's [TS]

00:16:49   completely and utterly useless at any distance but having an ocular only [TS]

00:16:56   having one eye that you know everybody knows that you don't have any depth [TS]

00:16:59   perception both without both eyes but experiencing it all day was crazy like I [TS]

00:17:07   just bump into things had to be like super to really turn me into an old man [TS]

00:17:12   because I had to be like super careful every time I put the glass down on a [TS]

00:17:15   table stuff like that I mean I was constantly spilling stuff I would go and [TS]

00:17:21   take like a picture of orange juice and try to put myself on shoes and I was [TS]

00:17:25   completely concentrating over-the-counter crazy and it's gotten [TS]

00:17:33   better than that now I don't know where the iPad for anything even though [TS]

00:17:36   the left eyes and light company green but even though it even though the [TS]

00:17:41   vision is bad your depth perception is yeah that's the thing is that having the [TS]

00:17:45   left I can't rip the left eye is absolutely so it is doing something [TS]

00:17:49   yeah yeah and I can do things like throw something up in the air and catches the [TS]

00:17:54   eye can see [TS]

00:17:56   get that sort of depth perception so you're juggling careers no babies and [TS]

00:18:04   jeans back at it is nothing going on and I guess is better than having any way [TS]

00:18:17   everybody out there with me to touch thank you thank you so much I really do [TS]

00:18:20   appreciate it I don't mean to be too down about it you know it's it's you [TS]

00:18:25   know it's not a good situation but could be so much worse and I really do still [TS]

00:18:30   have tremendously good vision so it's all things considered it is getting [TS]

00:18:35   better at this point as of this week and this is sort of knew it would be the [TS]

00:18:40   last thing I said it's the effect of my combined both eyes open vision is sort [TS]

00:18:47   of as though there's like like vapors in the air like maybe like what it would [TS]

00:18:56   look like maybe not in real life cuz I guess you know I can you have a gas oven [TS]

00:19:01   and you know what what it would look like a cartoon if there was a gas leak [TS]

00:19:06   like everything is clear and I can see stuff but it just looks like if I was [TS]

00:19:12   within like three feet of you it would just look to me like there were it looks [TS]

00:19:16   to me like there's just a little bit of waviness in the air between late you you [TS]

00:19:21   look normal but it looks like there's wavy papers in the air in the desert on [TS]

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00:22:48   see it still took it up man so what's going on this week I just got my watch [TS]

00:23:05   yesterday so that's interesting actually like right now the top of the jurors [TS]

00:23:13   earlier watch itself but it's almost like when people are getting up and when [TS]

00:23:16   they were promised them yeah I don't mind mine came early when I meet my wife [TS]

00:23:22   ordered it for me because I was at camp with my son so which is a whole other [TS]

00:23:29   story but she ordered it for me and she ordered it like seriously four minutes [TS]

00:23:33   after 12 is when she pushed button and my date my initial date range was [TS]

00:23:43   between May 13th between force [TS]

00:23:47   based on that purchase time which to me seems ludicrous but I guess that was [TS]

00:23:54   what the level of availability was particularly for the design space great [TS]

00:24:00   sport one which I think was a fairly heavily purchase was 4242 right so we [TS]

00:24:10   clearly again Apple isn't talking about this and they never will but it seems [TS]

00:24:15   very cool ear by looking at like Twitter and any kind of forums MacRumors people [TS]

00:24:22   are talking about this [TS]

00:24:23   that there's a definite pattern to which watch you ordered which strap it has and [TS]

00:24:29   which ones are being made and shipping out so we did we bought 31 trainee 114 [TS]

00:24:37   Jonas you know it's ridiculous [TS]

00:24:41   created watch but he's a good kid and he hasn't done anything I write it off to [TS]

00:24:49   you know who work expense cause I'm fascinated by the fact that he's [TS]

00:24:53   fascinated by it so I ordered the expense of black link bracelet the space [TS]

00:25:02   black ok ok Amy got thirty eight millimeter Milanese 2012 Jonas is that [TS]

00:25:14   38 millimeters face black as far as I can tell we ordered them boom boom boom [TS]

00:25:19   for us it was 3 a.m. but it was right when those store when live and we used [TS]

00:25:24   the iPhone app people who are smart and really smart way to really thought that [TS]

00:25:30   it made a difference to be like like 30 seconds instead of a minute in the [TS]

00:25:34   smartest way to do which I wasn't smart enough to do is to save a favorite and [TS]

00:25:39   you were like three it was like three taps was like three taps and a touch [TS]

00:25:43   tidy and you're done for me it was like for taps it was like I want this so I [TS]

00:25:54   greedily [TS]

00:25:55   ordered my own first so my mind was ordered at like one minute in within 45 [TS]

00:26:03   seconds then I ordered Amy's and then I got Jonas's but all three orders were [TS]

00:26:07   placed within three minutes it was like 303 and all three orders and I also got [TS]

00:26:12   myself a sport don't ban the black sport pants 42 millimeters and Amy wanted a [TS]

00:26:19   black sport band 38 millimeters so I got those two and I think those orders [TS]

00:26:25   replaced you know I don't know within five minutes I was done with all of it [TS]

00:26:28   but I were to disband separately the only thing that shipped for it to us so [TS]

00:26:32   far as he means 30 none of the individual I thought the bands would [TS]

00:26:37   just come you know seems like the tease rate yea right you get the band's first [TS]

00:26:42   and then and i know that she's definitely got the Chargers first people [TS]

00:26:47   who ordered a second charger definitely got them yeah I saw those on Twitter cuz [TS]

00:26:52   that's retirement plan again [TS]

00:26:54   tormenting the review unit from Apple suicide watch list but it seems like it [TS]

00:27:02   as a basic rule the black sport band is somehow and low production across the [TS]

00:27:07   board whether you bought stand-alone bands or whether you gotta watch with a [TS]

00:27:11   black band and it's interesting and I you know obviously black right but [TS]

00:27:17   you're right no I got it yesterday so we came a lot earlier than they said it was [TS]

00:27:22   gonna come came well at least two weeks earlier but no i didnt I did not get it [TS]

00:27:30   I didn't get into five days after they were supposed to be delivered [TS]

00:27:34   yeah I saw somebody else are coupled device winner who gots ta all the steel [TS]

00:27:38   watch but with the black band you know like as the built-in configuration [TS]

00:27:42   who got there's like yesterday or today and it seems like they were the exact [TS]

00:27:47   same boat as you [TS]

00:27:49   where they were promised you know like May 13th or something like that and [TS]

00:27:52   karen is came but no word on any of our the ones I think I checked earlier today [TS]

00:27:57   but no known you know but it seems as though it isn't even it hardly even [TS]

00:28:01   worth checking because it's like by the time the status changes on the order [TS]

00:28:06   it's like on a truck from FedEx it yeah yeah your door but that's about what [TS]

00:28:11   happened to me I think I got I got an email before I was chased him staying [TS]

00:28:16   fairly regularly but I got an email before I noticed it on the website [TS]

00:28:20   changed it said it was it would be there the next day [TS]

00:28:26   yeah for amy is it was cuz I've got my AMEX on Apple pay and I am not really a [TS]

00:28:36   notification we can even talk about like how many notifications you get what you [TS]

00:28:40   know and I feel like the watch is really making people think about what [TS]

00:28:45   notifications they get for what but one of my favorite features is if you have [TS]

00:28:51   your Amex in Apple pay on your phone every time your Amex gets charged you [TS]

00:28:57   get a notification telling you who charged it and for how much and I don't [TS]

00:29:03   know why but I really enjoy that you know and and 99% of the time it's ten [TS]

00:29:09   seconds after I just charge something but I kind of find it reassuring like I [TS]

00:29:17   don't know I don't know that I've ever been ripped off a restaurant where I [TS]

00:29:21   have signed a bill for you know $87 and injured more than that you know just [TS]

00:29:29   hand you put it down handed you go and I can I never liked go back at the end of [TS]

00:29:34   the month and look at my [TS]

00:29:36   bill I used to do that until he came to it just became too much to do and I was [TS]

00:29:42   never finding anything right but I love the fact that I'll go outside and [TS]

00:29:46   walking home and i got a buzz and I look down and it says you know that the [TS]

00:29:51   restaurant is charged me $87 and its Russian my head cuz I just signed the [TS]

00:29:54   bill and I know that that's exactly what it should be and with Amy's watch it was [TS]

00:30:01   like I got it was late at night at seven o'clock at night [TS]

00:30:04   build $600 and it's like the next morning at 10 o'clock ding-dong it is so [TS]

00:30:11   I guess I don't have to check I guess I'll just get the AMEX alert you know [TS]

00:30:15   when when the next watch ships but it does seem like it seems like I mean I [TS]

00:30:20   guess there's some people who who haven't gotten theirs at the beginning [TS]

00:30:25   of their promised window but as far as I can tell nobody has missed their [TS]

00:30:29   promised window [TS]

00:30:33   well what about those ones that the developer ones or the developer ones I [TS]

00:30:39   thought it was kind of weird to begin with but I thought I saw some of them [TS]

00:30:43   say that they had not gotten despite ordering them but did they get them [TS]

00:30:48   yesterday I don't know was whiskas ordered one of those and I create member [TS]

00:30:56   what they what the promise was the promise was promised delivery by the [TS]

00:30:59   28th or promise shipping by the 28th but Wilkinson get his on the 28th but he did [TS]

00:31:04   get in on the 29th ok ok I don't know but it's the whole story of those [TS]

00:31:11   watches seems crazy though because there's obviously so [TS]

00:31:14   resource-constrained and after they knew that they you know that they were so [TS]

00:31:19   constrained on these that was when they made the offer and included like I think [TS]

00:31:24   that they must just be a message silver ones with blues straps that was what it [TS]

00:31:31   was all you could get right to the developer one right and that to me [TS]

00:31:36   contributes to the idea that whatever the reason whether you know [TS]

00:31:41   like factory a is supposed to be making black sport bands factory be is making [TS]

00:31:48   blue ones and green lines and you know factory a labor problems or an [TS]

00:31:53   electrical shortage or you know maybe like whatever the chemicals are they mix [TS]

00:31:57   to make the black they couldn't get enough of them but they could get plenty [TS]

00:32:00   of the ones for blue or white or whatever but it definitely seemed to me [TS]

00:32:04   like they you know could not make those bands in equal numbers and the fact that [TS]

00:32:08   they only offered the developer ones and blue yeah exactly my seem to be that [TS]

00:32:15   that you know they can make as many of the blue ones as they wanted it also [TS]

00:32:18   makes me think that it's the band the band in particular might be part of the [TS]

00:32:24   constraints you know because it's there's no matter which sport watch you [TS]

00:32:31   go to buy its like you can just get one right you just know there's no color [TS]

00:32:38   combinations where you can just go to apple.com and get one sent to you like [TS]

00:32:43   everybody's says June if you but no matter what you want to buy right now [TS]

00:32:46   today it's about looking at the least the black sport man says get it in may [TS]

00:32:54   be able to ship it doesn't say anything more including the watcher just the [TS]

00:33:02   sport now just the sport band yeah so I don't know I don't know until mention me [TS]

00:33:09   know he said something about the fact that they were able to catch up a little [TS]

00:33:14   bit over the weekend [TS]

00:33:17   yeah they were able to ship more than they thought that they found some under [TS]

00:33:21   a table or something [TS]

00:33:22   ship some faster than what date said initially indicated yeah and I i know [TS]

00:33:31   that there and I know that a lot of it is for competitive reasons and I think [TS]

00:33:34   part of it is for pride reasons that they just don't want to talk about the [TS]

00:33:37   problems I mean like trig sample I mean remember [TS]

00:33:40   the the the white first white iPhone [TS]

00:33:43   didn't ship for nine months oh yeah yeah that was weird that was like when there [TS]

00:33:49   was like a manufacturing thing right now and they clearly it was like something [TS]

00:33:54   was bleeding through the camera was affected because light was bleeding [TS]

00:33:59   through the white plastic it was like somehow they could make them obviously [TS]

00:34:05   they could make them not at scale because they had demo units that people [TS]

00:34:08   saw you know people knew people who are today but for some reason they could not [TS]

00:34:12   produce the white ones at scale the scale needed to sell them but I was it [TS]

00:34:17   was seriously like nine months it was I close to being like I mentioned it on [TS]

00:34:24   the show years ago Amy ordered that phone and she wanted to get a white one [TS]

00:34:29   and it got to the point where I seem to remember if we cancel dinner what what [TS]

00:34:34   we did because it got to the point where it was like even if she got it was going [TS]

00:34:37   to be close it was clearly going to be closed next to the next iPhone I think [TS]

00:34:41   that's what she's doing she cancelled and just so you know I'm actually just [TS]

00:34:45   go away [TS]

00:34:45   get the next one because it's ridiculous so I think there's also a little promise [TS]

00:34:52   like that and at the scale of like the first month it's to be expected that [TS]

00:34:57   there's gonna be some kind of weird problem like we didn't expected but the [TS]

00:35:01   black sport band is really hard to make they keep coming out really dark gray [TS]

00:35:05   and that's you know that's not acceptable they're supposed to be black [TS]

00:35:08   or [TS]

00:35:09   you know they're not been the enough or something so nice to feel good I haven't [TS]

00:35:20   worn by worn leather and actually my last one is now but mostly you know [TS]

00:35:28   forever so I was kind of slightly concerned about how it would feel but [TS]

00:35:33   it's pretty good that's like maybe the single most common thing that we did it [TS]

00:35:39   mean as people open their watches they're like wow you were right [TS]

00:35:43   sport band is really is nice [TS]

00:35:46   or you know my favorite version is well I thought you were full of shit when you [TS]

00:35:50   talked about how nice and is but you're right it's it's really really heard from [TS]

00:35:57   people who went to the trials to the same thing they really I really you know [TS]

00:36:01   I could not believe that you were going on and on and on but sports fan in your [TS]

00:36:04   review and then went to the Apple store and I thought it was the nicest feeling [TS]

00:36:08   of all of them including super expensive ones of you and you had watches with [TS]

00:36:14   metal bands before yeah i dont wanna watch with a metal bracelet for years if [TS]

00:36:20   you are right as I did that I did it for a while ago when I first started wearing [TS]

00:36:25   like a nice watch the kids watch and I found there had to be a problem not [TS]

00:36:34   really my interests are not care less but they're not like I was no way I am [TS]

00:36:41   NOT yeah I'm not I know I know I don't know there must be part of the design [TS]

00:36:50   know the gross part of being linked bracelet designer when you go and test [TS]

00:36:57   like a a stable of stream leisure suit men that they work with [TS]

00:37:04   come on over and then they like certain measuring how many hairs come out or [TS]

00:37:10   something like that [TS]

00:37:11   like Paul never murder and animals or the other guys run run run their own now [TS]

00:37:18   watch been testing testing 12 the other thing before we move on just talking [TS]

00:37:26   about the watches shipping the story that broke yesterday The Wall Street [TS]

00:37:29   Journal report that I think to summarize that Apple has it discovered a serious [TS]

00:37:36   production problem with the tactic engine and behind the scenes they had [TS]

00:37:40   commissioned two different factories to make them one in China and one in Japan [TS]

00:37:45   and that the ones from the company in China had a defect or not I don't think [TS]

00:37:52   it was all of them but that too many of them way too many of them had a defect [TS]

00:37:55   such that after so many years it would stop working and at the 12 in Japan [TS]

00:38:02   don't have this problem but that means they only have half as many tactic [TS]

00:38:05   engines as their guest they tend to have that they didn't say what percentage of [TS]

00:38:13   them from one source reliable right and now that had to shift their plans so [TS]

00:38:18   that they're going to get all of them from this company in Japan but it's [TS]

00:38:22   gonna take awhile because the Japanese maker you know wasn't prepared to make [TS]

00:38:26   them [TS]

00:38:27   and the Wall Street Journal story made it sound as though that's the answer to [TS]

00:38:34   why the watch is seemingly taking awhile to 24 supply to meet demand [TS]

00:38:43   i'd I think they're right about the tapping and they say I mean I'm just [TS]

00:38:46   seems pretty clear that they've got a source at least as source the Chinese [TS]

00:38:50   company and probably the Japanese 12 [TS]

00:38:56   I don't think that came from Apple I'm almost certain it did not cause I don't [TS]

00:38:59   think Apple wants anything like that to come out I think it came from the supply [TS]

00:39:07   chain but I don't know that it's the only one I do cuz I don't understand 0 [TS]

00:39:11   for example why haven't I stand alone [TS]

00:39:14   bands shipped yet like I think there's you know that even the banter taking I [TS]

00:39:19   think I am guessing like if you're Jeff Williams or Tim Cook and you read the [TS]

00:39:24   story in The Journal that says well there's one problem its tactic engine [TS]

00:39:27   and it's this one thing like that that they're just rolling their eyes like oh [TS]

00:39:31   god if only if only that was the only problem you know so you say you said [TS]

00:39:39   that you got one that had a bad review you write a review unit that I got the [TS]

00:39:47   first day I thought at first I tried it on and you know and you know of a [TS]

00:39:55   briefing with Apple people and you know they should make sure everything's [TS]

00:39:58   alright and and everything was working and it definitely was getting taps but I [TS]

00:40:03   remember thinking at first [TS]

00:40:05   wow the taps don't seem strong enough I have to play with the settings on that [TS]

00:40:09   because it doesn't feel like I remembered feeling that I didn't go to [TS]

00:40:13   the event March caused the iPhone but it back in September when I tried one of [TS]

00:40:17   the things on it was playing the demo loop which is identical or very close to [TS]

00:40:23   the demolition and stores I remember the taps feeling a lot stronger [TS]

00:40:27   but I thought well I play with the settings and I played with the settings [TS]

00:40:31   and never really seemed strong enough and I'm by the night time it seemed to [TS]

00:40:36   me like it was that this is working right I made to you know it's already [TS]

00:40:40   too late but in the morning I'm gonna have to look into this cause I'm sure I [TS]

00:40:44   suspect I really and it made me think I was crazy because I always in the back [TS]

00:40:48   of my head I always thought that maybe the review unit said they give people [TS]

00:40:51   were like super units they like you know I wouldn't put it past Apple that they [TS]

00:40:56   would go like when they give you a ring someone like me [TS]

00:41:00   poker anybody who gets is reviewing its that they like cherry pick Lake you know [TS]

00:41:06   they open up the phone and they like this is perfect as you know this is [TS]

00:41:10   beyond are you know measures of quality for what we ship out everybody but you [TS]

00:41:15   know this is the best of the best but apparently you know I'm not and I do [TS]

00:41:19   remember when I got my review you know watch that it was like the box and [TS]

00:41:23   everything was all sealed up which doesn't mean that they did so feel it [TS]

00:41:27   you know but it was definitely sealed but I think it was just like a watch [TS]

00:41:32   that came out of the early production runs and it sounds exactly like what the [TS]

00:41:37   journal describe where it worked I'm not quite sure I could be miss remembering [TS]

00:41:42   that it was too weak the first day that may or may not just be me not being used [TS]

00:41:45   to it or not having the link bracelet tight enough to venture took out one [TS]

00:41:50   extra link of the link bracelet them what I had the first day and I think [TS]

00:41:53   that was part of it like it's a lot more comfortable to me you know I think it [TS]

00:41:57   was to lose the first date but without question the second day by like eleven [TS]

00:42:02   o'clock in the morning it it just wasn't happening at all and it sounds an awful [TS]

00:42:07   lot like what they're describing which is I think hard to test because it seems [TS]

00:42:12   like the sort of failure where any kind of test you did thats just like hook it [TS]

00:42:16   up [TS]

00:42:17   see if it taps see if you know get a notification see if it taps ok good to [TS]

00:42:21   go then it's you know that's a problem like it was like a dead unit it was a [TS]

00:42:26   unit that failed [TS]

00:42:27   well that's interesting to know i mean to see if that because that to me [TS]

00:42:35   implies like maybe they'll be issues over longer-term right like are there [TS]

00:42:40   any that are gonna fail after 30 days or a year i mean you know six months to a [TS]

00:42:46   year [TS]

00:42:46   yeah I heard from at least one reader who I know definitely trust whose [TS]

00:42:53   support Apple sport watch definitely had a dead tactic unit took it in the Apple [TS]

00:42:58   Store and geniuses you know you know had hadn't heard it and he said like [TS]

00:43:02   emphasized you know they were like wow that was the first one you know first [TS]

00:43:06   time they've heard of this problem but they verified definitely wasn't tapping [TS]

00:43:11   and gave him a replacement is replacing him which I thought was interesting to [TS]

00:43:15   see how do they do that it was just the watch so they took his straps off just [TS]

00:43:19   give them a new watch put in it which I think me know knows what they're going [TS]

00:43:23   to do once supply isn't so constrained but it makes a lot of sense to me that [TS]

00:43:28   he'd story got delivered a certain number of just plain watches without any [TS]

00:43:31   straps for anybody and I you know like I wrote yesterday and seems like nobody's [TS]

00:43:37   behind this out of control other than the Drudge Report [TS]

00:43:40   it like I don't think it's drew the line at a couple people put out like recode [TS]

00:43:47   and a few others that none of the units left the factory because it seems pretty [TS]

00:43:52   clear that I got one as a review and somebody else to write somebody else to [TS]

00:43:57   do but it seems incredibly rare because it does not it seems to me like the sort [TS]

00:44:02   of thing we're even if like 100 people had the problem you know it would be [TS]

00:44:06   like the bengay yeah like I don't think one out of a hundred iPhone sixes band I [TS]

00:44:11   was way less than that and you can see that even if it's like half of one [TS]

00:44:15   percent or you know whatever 1000 how quickly something like that can escalate [TS]

00:44:19   so I think it was great I could crazy odd coincidence that I got one except [TS]

00:44:26   maybe it's not so crazy because the review unit went out so much earlier and [TS]

00:44:31   so maybe they want it hadn't caught it and yeah that's exactly what I'm [TS]

00:44:35   thinking yeah you know but it's interesting I didn't realize that they [TS]

00:44:42   would still mean I just assume that all the stuff comes from china now has come [TS]

00:44:46   surprise that there's they're getting some of these parts from Japan to yeah I [TS]

00:44:52   did think that was interesting to surprise her cuz you know I know that [TS]

00:44:56   the japanese to make an awful lot of stuff you know that there it's you know [TS]

00:45:01   made in Japan is still a big thing for a lot of consumer electronics yea though I [TS]

00:45:06   guess I didn't know how much of that was really that we do like Apple in [TS]

00:45:13   Cupertino but it's really made in China yeah I'm assuming I'm assuming the [TS]

00:45:19   Japanese from China's [TS]

00:45:22   yeah I don't know its components to see that's the thing I would think that [TS]

00:45:27   maybe ok maybe they're doing the final assembly in Japan right getting most of [TS]

00:45:31   the components from Chinese writers but who knows I don't know but yeah topic [TS]

00:45:36   engines coming from Japan least for now I don't know anything else on the [TS]

00:45:44   shipping was funny that the UPS guy asked me what color I got that when they [TS]

00:45:54   know they know what's going on they get their finger on the pulse of products [TS]

00:46:01   coming out you know what I guess I guess the other thing I wanted to me than it [TS]

00:46:04   was with Tim Cook stuck comment on the analyst call about you know the the [TS]

00:46:09   demand I do think I always say this and I think people just don't give them [TS]

00:46:14   credit they're they're tight-lipped famous but what they do say is usually [TS]

00:46:21   very true [TS]

00:46:22   like they don't you know it's worth listening to the words even if you think [TS]

00:46:28   it's a little bit and I feel like Tim Cook's comment about any time you may [TS]

00:46:32   comment is quoted to paraphrase but anytime you make the first generation of [TS]

00:46:36   a new product you expect things like this and I think things plural is [TS]

00:46:42   important because I really don't think it's I think it's just an I think it's [TS]

00:46:46   just a nightmare shipping these things first time [TS]

00:46:49   but it really does make you wonder how good they've gotten at making phones [TS]

00:46:56   because of how the ridiculous number of iPhone 6 explosives that a ship right [TS]

00:47:01   away you know like immediately on day one how many yeah I mean that's why I [TS]

00:47:08   was so surprised that when my wife ordered at four minutes past midnight [TS]

00:47:11   that she still was gonna be like yeah in like a month away I i think that I think [TS]

00:47:17   I think you're not alone and I think john wants your reasonable man and a [TS]

00:47:20   patient man and I think some of our friends out there are not as reasonably [TS]

00:47:25   patient but I do think that that has fueled the frustration that people have [TS]

00:47:33   the date on out there watching you know yeah it's like I'm sure that there's [TS]

00:47:40   parts of iPhone 6 in six-plus that you know obviously our cameras are new and [TS]

00:47:45   touch ideas proved it a new touch sensor even compared to the five ass you know [TS]

00:47:50   so there's new component but it's like component even if they're new they're [TS]

00:47:54   the type of thing that they know how to make and they know how to source quality [TS]

00:47:59   whereas you know women who even knows I mean they did just like there's no other [TS]

00:48:04   dingus and universally watched digital crowd right maybe that's hard to make [TS]

00:48:09   but it's a relatively yeah I got my house right now it seems like that would [TS]

00:48:20   have to take him at his word that this is to be expected you know and if [TS]

00:48:25   there's anything that they blew it was that same emphasizing that April 24th [TS]

00:48:33   date rape rabies I think they would be able to line up if they didn't get one [TS]

00:48:39   free order and they would line up with store it is possible it possible that [TS]

00:48:44   that was their plan at the time and maybe the stamping engine thing really [TS]

00:48:49   does sound like me be there for at least a while they're only gonna be able to [TS]

00:48:53   make half as many as expected to and you know and that they just as a rough [TS]

00:48:59   ballpark maybe the half that they decided to make all went to the pre [TS]

00:49:06   orders and the half that they were maybe gonna put in retail stores were the ones [TS]

00:49:11   like well sorry enjoyed you know you know well you know i mean a lot of [TS]

00:49:17   people blaming into large for this which is battling its alright just baffling to [TS]

00:49:21   me to it doesn't make any sense everybody should blame Jeff Williams [TS]

00:49:25   yeah exactly why I hate to say it I really do because I know there's gotta [TS]

00:49:30   be somebody out there listens to the show's got the blame in July angle but I [TS]

00:49:34   really do think it's sort of like a misogynist now besides he might be the [TS]

00:49:40   wrong word but a bias against women like I don't I really do think that there's [TS]

00:49:44   some some of the tweets I've seen or heard be like held responsible I've seen [TS]

00:49:48   people seriously like not like spit coming out of their mouths raging mad at [TS]

00:49:52   like seemingly dead serious you say that she should be fired over this which is [TS]

00:49:57   crazy to me and I really do I hate to say it cuz I don't like to try not to [TS]

00:50:02   like me jerk see biases like that but I really don't think they'd be doing that [TS]

00:50:06   if you know Ron Johnson and I don't quite think it's just because she's a [TS]

00:50:11   woman I think it's this combination of her being a woman from the fashion world [TS]

00:50:17   and the people who are blaming her arse are the people who also think that Apple [TS]

00:50:22   is making a misstep by stepping away from the more technological company in [TS]

00:50:28   more of a fashion company has also just let such as new and it's the first [TS]

00:50:32   launch right from her first big product launch that she's right but it's like i [TS]

00:50:39   don't think that the problem was no is not set up in the stars that's not a [TS]

00:50:45   retail employees she forgot to fill out a form [TS]

00:50:49   like you know I guess she doesn't want any for the retail stores I guess she [TS]

00:50:56   thinks there's no time and so does megan's she knows what she's doing [TS]

00:51:02   yeah so I guess you know I don't let that go and then would see there's no [TS]

00:51:06   watches in the stores on 24th I can't believe that there are people who I mean [TS]

00:51:15   there are no there are no watches for them to put the stores and they can't [TS]

00:51:19   even there can't even fill online orders yet right they can't fulfill the orders [TS]

00:51:26   and there are no watches for the store so I'm not quite sure what it once was [TS]

00:51:30   it went exactly she's right and its entire and I've seen people say when [TS]

00:51:34   they never should have said April 24 but it's entirely possible that when they [TS]

00:51:38   said April 24 back on march 9 that they thought they could do it and that it [TS]

00:51:44   changed so you know she's now responsible for testing the testing [TS]

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00:53:08   here's the thing I know it sounds so crazy to buy a mattress online because [TS]

00:53:13   you don't even get to touch it or whatever you know let alone jump on it [TS]

00:53:17   or whatever you do in the stores they have a risk-free trial and return policy [TS]

00:53:21   they give you a hundred days so you go there by the size you want it shows up [TS]

00:53:27   at her house in this crazy compressed vacuum sealed box which is a big box is [TS]

00:53:33   probably the biggest package that I've gotten delivered to my house on long [TS]

00:53:37   time but crazy small for a mattress into the room again listen to me you take it [TS]

00:53:44   to the room where you want it and then you open the box according to their [TS]

00:53:49   instructions and mattress it is crazy [TS]

00:53:54   their mattresses are made in America they are american-made really really [TS]

00:54:00   high quality stuff and the prices so much lower than stuff you see in the [TS]

00:54:04   mattress retail stores which is really really a cartel you know if you haven't [TS]

00:54:10   Chopra mattress in years it is so crazy cuz you go to store a and even if you [TS]

00:54:13   look at the same brand like sealy or whatever and you write down prices and [TS]

00:54:18   you say well I think I like that when you write down the name of the model and [TS]

00:54:21   you go to the next door so you can see what the prices they don't have there is [TS]

00:54:24   no model with the same name like each store that they sell mattresses to they [TS]

00:54:28   give customer names to the mattresses so that you can take a specifically the [TS]

00:54:32   whole product line of all the major mattresses are made so that you can't [TS]

00:54:37   price compare and then there's all these websites of course third party websites [TS]

00:54:41   that help you product compare [TS]

00:54:42   like the Posturepedic flip it EB is like the Rubik's Cube think you see from this [TS]

00:54:51   store or whatever the names are really good matches but it makes it possible [TS]

00:54:56   here's the deal you go to Casper and just simple one style of mattress you [TS]

00:55:01   pick the size and the prices are great 500 bucks for a twin size mattress 950 [TS]

00:55:07   bucks for king size mattress [TS]

00:55:09   compare that to the industry prices for a good and it's just outstanding Wales [TS]

00:55:14   under you cannot buy a good king size mattress for under a thousand bucks [TS]

00:55:17   where to go to find out more [TS]

00:55:20   WWW dot casper sleep dot com CA SPER casper sleep dot com slash talk show [TS]

00:55:29   know that just / talk show you that URL and you'll save 50 bucks I will not tell [TS]

00:55:35   your mom to get her mother's day but go there check it out if you need a [TS]

00:55:40   mattress or really interesting mothers day gift boxes crazy small it's crazy [TS]

00:55:46   small but big yeah I mean it's a big bucks but it's not the size of a match [TS]

00:55:52   we got ours the funny thing we got ours we weren't home and as it was and I [TS]

00:56:01   wouldn't have ordered it if I was ordering and we're on vacation over the [TS]

00:56:04   summer and what it was like they wanted to send one to me because you know they [TS]

00:56:09   want me to have one because of the economy talking about it you know a lot [TS]

00:56:12   more genuine of have actually I can vouch that the thing is actually a good [TS]

00:56:15   mattress [TS]

00:56:16   so they sent out what we're on vacation and my neighbor sign for it not knowing [TS]

00:56:23   we were on vacation and he had a hold that box for 10 days the worst possible [TS]

00:56:31   timing it's a big box for a pressure washer delivered the other day and it [TS]

00:56:39   was boxes but things are crazy that's what else is going on to see this thing [TS]

00:56:49   where another thing going back to the earnings report where Tim Cook said [TS]

00:56:56   something about you know that he had never never seen one of those component [TS]

00:57:00   breakdowns you know these guys they break open a product and then they [TS]

00:57:05   itemize everything they see inside and then they tell you that it costs you [TS]

00:57:09   know $67 to make an iPhone and that Apple's profit margins are you know 400% [TS]

00:57:15   he said he's never seen one that was accurate and I believe again [TS]

00:57:20   yeah which I wouldn't be again I take him at his word that they're not they're [TS]

00:57:24   not believable and I quit pondering fireball countdown to I supplies saying [TS]

00:57:31   that Apple would cost $67 in 321 and lo and behold today I surprise came out [TS]

00:57:38   with a thing that said Applewhite I was off by a little they said a cost $83 to [TS]

00:57:43   make and that it is that is just technology is is that I think so I [TS]

00:57:48   believe that is so even know on the analyst conference call which I believe [TS]

00:57:57   you know there are like the things that Tim Cook and the CFO [TS]

00:58:05   now it's not like a proxy I can't pronounce that well you know I am pretty [TS]

00:58:16   sure that they are literally like on the hook for the things that they say those [TS]

00:58:22   are like you know there's SEC guidelines regarding what they say and so usually [TS]

00:58:28   there evasive and if they say something that's true it's like it sort of has to [TS]

00:58:31   be true and they even said that the margins on Apple watch at least next [TS]

00:58:37   quarter they're only guiding for the next quarter and so it could be you know [TS]

00:58:41   this could be steered by first-generation initial product runs [TS]

00:58:44   they emphasize first connect this coming quarter the profit margins on Apple [TS]

00:58:49   watch will be lower than usual [TS]

00:58:51   company's product line and that includes all Apple watches including you know [TS]

00:58:56   this is assuming edition is going to sell in this relatively small numbers [TS]

00:59:01   but even in 08 $900,000 stainless steel ones which presumably you're gonna have [TS]

00:59:08   higher margins and 350 and 400 dollars for months that the margins are gonna be [TS]

00:59:14   lower [TS]

00:59:14   well i supply says that most profitable the highest mark-up of any Apple product [TS]

00:59:22   8180 $1.20 is off the top two phases admit that it does not include logistics [TS]

00:59:30   amortized capital expenses overhead SG&A selling general ministries Indies where [TS]

00:59:37   IP licensing and other very well for the supply chain such as electronics water [TS]

00:59:43   so I mean off you know it's basically it's the it's like those things are you [TS]

00:59:51   human body is made up of like $5 chemicals its yet technically that's [TS]

00:59:57   true but you cannot become human body if you go by $5 chemical I've seen some [TS]

01:00:06   websites over they claim [TS]

01:00:07   no its not all but there's also oh I see the story little bit that eighty $1.20 [TS]

01:00:21   they also add in the total cost to produce the watch is eighty $3.70 when [TS]

01:00:28   the $2 50 you per unit manufacturing expenses at it and so $2.50 to [TS]

01:00:35   manufacture and support this all the time to do this for many products [TS]

01:00:45   yeah but I don't always find them kind of an interesting I but I can't help but [TS]

01:00:53   think that with the Apple products in particular they know that there's like [TS]

01:00:57   what's the word [TS]

01:01:03   the public has a sense that Apple is ripping us off and then again I you and [TS]

01:01:09   I think I've talked to several times that like they play into it sometimes [TS]

01:01:13   like when they charge $80 for the USB dongle for the new man fucks sake that [TS]

01:01:20   play because it's actually true that you know they're they're RAM prices and like [TS]

01:01:28   if you want to upgrade the hard drive on a new MacBook something like that all [TS]

01:01:33   those all that stuff is nowhere near although they've gotten better on the [TS]

01:01:37   hard drive better but they've also at the same time they've locked down the [TS]

01:01:41   fed like you you know you can't do it yourself anymore you know where is used [TS]

01:01:45   to like I used to know my Mac and say ok well im just gonna skimp on the RAM and [TS]

01:01:50   hard drive and you know I can upgrade the RAM hard drive I've always been a [TS]

01:01:55   lazy and I've never never liked snapping ramen place has never ever ever has felt [TS]

01:02:02   he wasn't breaking every time I've ever done it it always felt hungry and I [TS]

01:02:07   don't do it I never did enough to really get good at it you know like I know that [TS]

01:02:11   there are some people who like like you working I T and your work at a company [TS]

01:02:16   and you do you set up a lot of new PCs and you always buy the Rams separate or [TS]

01:02:20   something like that when you get good at napping RAM in and out and you know what [TS]

01:02:24   it feels like that every time I bought a new Mac and then by the Rams separately [TS]

01:02:29   in which I would do because the prices were soaring Nicholas Lee better and you [TS]

01:02:34   never got enough RAM and the default configuration I did it but it always [TS]

01:02:38   every single time I buy a new Mac I think maybe this time I'll let Apple go [TS]

01:02:43   there and compare the prices I be like no way it's gotten better but but they [TS]

01:02:50   do play into it and and I remember you and I talking about it even said like [TS]

01:02:53   look you know it's easy for us to spend Apple's money and say they should just [TS]

01:02:58   you know [TS]

01:02:59   give people thanks but I think when they had the lightning adapter thing like [TS]

01:03:03   they should have just had buckets of those lightning to 30 pin and just given [TS]

01:03:07   him to people in the store just so you know people come in and say hey you know [TS]

01:03:11   my husband has the old phone I've got the new phone in our cables to pick up [TS]

01:03:15   here have a couple of these just something cheap very cheap for Goodwill [TS]

01:03:19   right whereas their answer was well give us $29.90 people have that Apple does do [TS]

01:03:29   certain things that play into it and i feel like i supplies whole thing with [TS]

01:03:32   these press releases is just catered to hit that perception you know that Apple [TS]

01:03:39   is ripping us off and it's like I definitely think that the USB adapter [TS]

01:03:45   for the MacBook and does not cost $80 or even close to it I think there's a [TS]

01:03:49   pretty stiff markup on that I do not think that white sport costs 83 in this [TS]

01:04:02   yeah in this venture BP's that you a link to this part perhaps the most [TS]

01:04:11   interesting component prices the analysis in this analysis is that of the [TS]

01:04:16   battery $0.80 IHS is estimate is correct it seems that Apple spent a laughably [TS]

01:04:22   small amount of money on the one-component the scenes to hinder the [TS]

01:04:25   capabilities of the watch the most ok well let says nothing about what the [TS]

01:04:30   other options were assuming that if they had spent more on the battery then they [TS]

01:04:36   would have gotten more battery well there may not be another option and [TS]

01:04:40   they're certainly may not be another option in that that size I write it [TS]

01:04:47   appeals to its its just jokingly written right like the even the people who buy [TS]

01:04:53   then write a story about it then you know the only people who even buy into [TS]

01:04:58   it are people who are such facile thinkers that they're subject to like [TS]

01:05:02   analysis like that who knows you know and I don't know anything maybe maybe it [TS]

01:05:07   literally is a decent component to put that battery in there but there's that [TS]

01:05:12   doesn't mean that it's it's not like there's empty space that they've left go [TS]

01:05:18   you know it's not like it's been a buck 60 instead two days of battery life diet [TS]

01:05:25   like yeah I just died out that that was given their already you know they [TS]

01:05:33   already seem concerned about the battery life [TS]

01:05:35   initially from the beginning and they wouldn't mention it and they were saying [TS]

01:05:39   OK we carefully saying that they're setting this up so that will give you a [TS]

01:05:45   day's worth of battery I think if they had an option for a bigger better they [TS]

01:05:49   probably would have gone for it for a better battery for the extra extra $0.20 [TS]

01:05:58   right I still I do find it like unlikely that it's in a decent component because [TS]

01:06:07   I've bought watch batteries before and like regular watch batteries the ones [TS]

01:06:13   that like you put the Casio or like at IMAX cost a couple bucks and I know that [TS]

01:06:20   when you're buying it scale you can get like you know different them going into [TS]

01:06:25   the hardware store and buy one [TS]

01:06:27   watch battery but that's a large battery that runs like a totally low powered [TS]

01:06:33   machine and this is about her that runs like an iOS computer so I I really doubt [TS]

01:06:39   that it does get me get me every day I supply is such a pet peeve of mine and I [TS]

01:06:46   know that I should just let it go but I can't train see if the check engine is [TS]

01:06:54   on here someplace [TS]

01:06:56   touch each other because there's a i mean that's not a standard component you [TS]

01:07:09   just pick up there are obviously there are not buckets of those things lying [TS]

01:07:15   around someplace because their supply is constrained because a bunch of bad ones [TS]

01:07:20   so how do you estimate something that was probably built pretty much [TS]

01:07:27   specifically for this watch I I honestly have no idea idea I think that they [TS]

01:07:32   don't even try it out here anyway [TS]

01:07:36   touch screen I and every time I wrote about this in mind for years after I [TS]

01:07:49   read about it or podcast about it I always get some feedback we try to [TS]

01:07:53   preemptively cut you off hopefully those who you were doing this I haven't [TS]

01:07:57   started emailing me already [TS]

01:07:58   their response is usually from people who like rebuy cider listen to the show [TS]

01:08:03   nuance and it's not just need to know the cost $40 million I like my readers [TS]

01:08:11   and listeners are smart but they they always emphasized the word they're not [TS]

01:08:15   they're not trying to say that it takes into account you know the factory to [TS]

01:08:21   build these things reassemble it and you know they're just saying they're [TS]

01:08:24   literally just saying what the component costs and they're not trying to you know [TS]

01:08:29   to put research and development into it and they're not you know that it is fair [TS]

01:08:34   but I think even if you take all that under consideration it still clearly [TS]

01:08:39   isn't because I just there's no way to match the fact that they're saying that [TS]

01:08:44   this is the highest margin product Apple makes with Apple saying a public analyst [TS]

01:08:50   call that it's going to have a lower than at the lowest said lower than the [TS]

01:08:55   company's so it it cannot be true that the low end they're saying that the [TS]

01:09:00   lowest the lowest priced Apple watch [TS]

01:09:03   well I could be Gemini guess it could be true if you factor in those things that [TS]

01:09:07   they did you know obviously not factoring in logistics and the capital [TS]

01:09:13   expenses and things like that I just don't see how this is in any way other [TS]

01:09:19   than people trying to break you know and and see this perception and nobody ever [TS]

01:09:28   talks about supply breakdown of the samsung galaxy s sex I don't see I do [TS]

01:09:36   not see the topic thing called out anywhere here so it must be embedded in [TS]

01:09:41   one of these categories which is just to me because it's a brand new things you [TS]

01:09:46   can't I mean obviously is making an estimate by then then you don't know I [TS]

01:09:55   didn't think to them before the episode airs but I said two stories and [TS]

01:10:02   pensioners but that probably means every time I say that I but I did write a note [TS]

01:10:09   under speaking of components I saw that very tenet Sony reported the results and [TS]

01:10:15   their companies doing pretty good and they're expecting the year to be really [TS]

01:10:20   good but the thing that holding them back they're losing money on phones and [TS]

01:10:26   the just a diverse areas maybe it's time for Sony to start making cell phones [TS]

01:10:30   because they're losing money on in the company of things we're succeeding i [TS]

01:10:34   play stations doing pretty well and they're just not time to give up the [TS]

01:10:41   ghost on found [TS]

01:10:42   and I thought it was interesting because the other story I saw was their part of [TS]

01:10:48   their results is that they are making sony's making 20 bucks a unit on iphone [TS]

01:10:53   6 and the galaxy s sex because both of them using Sony cameras and I'm not [TS]

01:11:00   quite sure if it's the whole thing the lands in the 10th but some part of these [TS]

01:11:05   phones that have these damn these super great high-end camera phones are using [TS]

01:11:12   Sony optics and I don't know it's really really interesting to me it's only at [TS]

01:11:17   its best you know and i have you know I've always been a fan estonian I know [TS]

01:11:21   steve Jobs was a lot of people are just because to me sonya is one of those [TS]

01:11:25   companies in the same way that Apple does with a sweat the details and stuff [TS]

01:11:31   like that and I think it's so interesting because I saw also that [TS]

01:11:34   cannon had some really bad results quarterly results [TS]

01:11:38   you know because camera sales are so down and I thought you know is really [TS]

01:11:41   interesting because Sony even though they make their own phones is it was [TS]

01:11:46   interested in making camera parts for would-be competitors like Apple and [TS]

01:11:53   Samsung and Canon which doesn't make phones doesn't have any kind of business [TS]

01:11:59   yeah and I know that maybe that's not really a sign of Sony having the bill is [TS]

01:12:10   only executives having the foresight to be like that maybe it's just a sign of [TS]

01:12:14   how divided Sony is as a conglomerate that maybe the people and make the best [TS]

01:12:20   that imaging sided [TS]

01:12:24   but either way it's good for the company at some point you know the buck stops [TS]

01:12:29   here and sony has a company is doing something pretty smart to stay relevant [TS]

01:12:34   in a world where people are buying Sony phones and people are using the phones [TS]

01:12:41   they are buying from Samsung and Apple to take their pictures that they're [TS]

01:12:45   getting a piece of it yeah I don't really remember the making cameras [TS]

01:12:51   well they do now though because they have a day both days of a brand name [TS]

01:12:55   they bought Minolta Minolta doesn't exist a couple of years and they [TS]

01:13:03   actually make like the Sony cameras are actually excellent they they're really [TS]

01:13:08   cutting edge stuff they make good SL ours and they are mirrorless ones you [TS]

01:13:14   know these new ones that are like basically in layman's terms a really [TS]

01:13:18   good camera that doesn't work anything like an SLR doesn't have any kind of [TS]

01:13:23   clicking here so its silence some of theirs are just amazing really really [TS]

01:13:28   groundbreaking stuff I can't think of the last project and frankly it's so [TS]

01:13:38   funny because you know after owning them throughout the season [TS]

01:13:41   well into the nineties it's so funny because I feel like the one of those [TS]

01:13:46   like anachronism that it's getting ready to pop army mirrored SLR cameras digital [TS]

01:13:52   SLR ours you know like in a way that like smoking in a restaurant like you [TS]

01:13:58   just can't even imagine it stands out to me like this you see it the only people [TS]

01:14:02   who really use them anymore I should say only but I really notice it is news [TS]

01:14:07   media like super professional high end news media so like [TS]

01:14:11   President Obama comes out the Rose Garden to talk about you know the news [TS]

01:14:16   of the day what do you hear you hear this machine gunfire of photos and you [TS]

01:14:22   never heard in the old days pre digital because there was no point when you were [TS]

01:14:28   only could put 36 images on a roll of film of shooting all 36 images in a [TS]

01:14:33   second right like you know that you know the old way of shooting I'm sure they [TS]

01:14:40   shot a lot of film I'm sure that like the newspaper reporters for the major [TS]

01:14:44   newspapers the photographers I'm sure they shot not that the reporters [TS]

01:14:48   photographers shot a lot of images compared to like what a consumer would [TS]

01:14:51   do but they wouldn't just hold the button down and let it shoot it has [TS]

01:14:54   occurred whereas now they do they just shoot shoot shoot shoot to get whatever [TS]

01:14:58   image and the noise really started to starting to bother me because I can [TS]

01:15:05   nobody else in the world uses these cameras that make noise anymore I can go [TS]

01:15:08   to school events you don't hear peoples cameras clicking anymore [TS]

01:15:11   everybody's cameras are dropped at Doral so I noticed it I know so when I watch [TS]

01:15:17   that weird baseball game yesterday the Orioles game so he didn't see me later [TS]

01:15:24   on during fireball ball to see Baltimore as is having a lot of protests over the [TS]

01:15:30   police treatment [TS]

01:15:33   the citizens of Baltimore so good summary yes so protests in street [TS]

01:15:39   protests got a little ugly over the weekend and it was a baseball game [TS]

01:15:44   Baltimore where where the fans had a hard time getting out of the stadium [TS]

01:15:47   because they the fans existing the ballpark were right there with the [TS]

01:15:51   protests where it was night time it was scary and it also I don't know if they [TS]

01:15:56   had this was going on at the same time as that but they also made several times [TS]

01:16:01   they shut down the public transportation [TS]

01:16:03   yeah I saw that too which is so leaving a ball game and there's no public [TS]

01:16:10   transportation around yeah well it would be that I mean there's thousands and [TS]

01:16:15   thousands of people who come to the game in their cars in Philly but I i some [TS]

01:16:20   huge proportion of every game is taking the subway home if they shut down the [TS]

01:16:24   subways would be a nightmare and at Camden Yards probably even better [TS]

01:16:29   located in Philly we we keep our ballparks way down at the end of the [TS]

01:16:33   city like everybody has to go somewhere like you know I know it would be if if [TS]

01:16:38   public transportation be sit down shut down for whatever reason like a flood or [TS]

01:16:43   a protest or a strike even if it was just like us you know public [TS]

01:16:48   transportation workers strike [TS]

01:16:50   I could see and maybe they wouldn't have had enough notice they wouldn't cancel [TS]

01:16:53   the game but I could see how they might have to so I could see that anyway [TS]

01:16:56   whether well-intentioned they played played a baseball game professional [TS]

01:17:02   baseball game yesterday without the public in the stadium so there is nobody [TS]

01:17:06   there for the team and a couple of employees and I guess the scouts from [TS]

01:17:11   other teams really show up so they were you know an empty ballpark that fits [TS]

01:17:15   fifty some 51,000 people had nobody in it and why I watch the game for anything [TS]

01:17:22   or to discuss to see how weird it was super weird and you could hear this [TS]

01:17:27   I can't imagine what it's like playing the game I can't either I mean not only [TS]

01:17:38   is there you're losing the enthusiasm of the crowd but then you have all these [TS]

01:17:45   noises that you never heard before [TS]

01:17:47   yeah I never really paid attention to anyway right [TS]

01:17:51   like you know I don't know like your mustard I haven't seen enough I saw a [TS]

01:17:58   lot of people writing about what we have with us but until I go to the players [TS]

01:18:01   talking about whether it was tough you know like to keep their concentrate you [TS]

01:18:05   know they give it did it feel real wouldn't but it seems like a practice [TS]

01:18:12   but I just everything in like a regular stadium when do you know even if you're [TS]

01:18:16   not a popular team but the Baltimore Orioles pretty popular and they usually [TS]

01:18:20   have good really good crowd great friends no matter what brand camera you [TS]

01:18:25   have if you're like a professional photographer know but your camera isn't [TS]

01:18:28   making noise it bothers people but like in that game was like I think if you're [TS]

01:18:34   a professional photography ensure sports photographer you've kind of got to be an [TS]

01:18:39   extrovert to some degree where you're walking around with this big camera a [TS]

01:18:42   big obtrusive landing or taking people's pictures and you're used to you know [TS]

01:18:47   asking their names so you can get their name or whatever and the right to use [TS]

01:18:50   the image you know and I'm a little bit more of an introvert I don't wanna you [TS]

01:18:53   know [TS]

01:18:56   I could I would have it would have been unbearable to me to be like behind home [TS]

01:19:00   plate clicking my camera knowing that like the pitcher and hitter [TS]

01:19:05   would have driven me nuts and it didn't matter and it's like that's just [TS]

01:19:09   baseball right because something bad is going to happen for one of them guys [TS]

01:19:13   gonna make an out and it's bad for the header or the guy is so someone can [TS]

01:19:17   someone can blame you but when matter what happened at every at bat I would be [TS]

01:19:20   like that was me right leg I made the guy who wrote bad pitch made the guy [TS]

01:19:26   strikeout and it's getting a pair of technical reason why they couldn't use [TS]

01:19:36   mirrorless cameras that you just push the button like your iPhone now we [TS]

01:19:42   actually had film developed recently for the first time in 15 years probably [TS]

01:19:49   twelve years because one of the things that they suggested taking to the camp [TS]

01:19:56   is waterproof cameras so Karen bought a couple of disposable waterproof cameras [TS]

01:20:06   which are still based so it's funny getting pictures back and particularly [TS]

01:20:15   pictures that were taken by an eleven year old the results yet there's a [TS]

01:20:20   couple of good there's a couple of good ones but you know he's got two rolls of [TS]

01:20:23   film and a lot of emergency in the air to ground there's a tree I've said this [TS]

01:20:32   reduce your family photos grown up now when I wouldn't say a lot i mean we [TS]

01:20:38   should we take a fair number but nobody was I got into I got into cameras junior [TS]

01:20:45   high school I wish I was probably I wish I don't know why I didn't have honest to [TS]

01:20:50   god don't know why didn't I even got super involved in the student newspaper [TS]

01:20:53   at Rexall [TS]

01:20:54   nineties and never got involved in photography and have no idea why didn't [TS]

01:20:58   I would have had a dark dark I could have blown their papers funds on [TS]

01:21:04   development and yeah I did that as I did we take a class or a summer thing and we [TS]

01:21:18   did it we did I got into them for a couple I gotta I did get my first like I [TS]

01:21:25   did start getting into photography right after college and I immediately denied [TS]

01:21:29   it when I was a student newspapers they needed me always always are desperate [TS]

01:21:36   need of decent photographs I'm an enemy good though i mean i just i don't have a [TS]

01:21:43   very good I and my wife and I just as much better eyes she she can take better [TS]

01:21:47   pictures but you know I learned a lot and it was kind of cool to be able to do [TS]

01:21:52   that but I miss my Pentax [TS]

01:21:57   fully manual camera got stolen Pentax K 10 i've seen that yeah yeah yeah and [TS]

01:22:08   yeah it for a long time those those are highly coveted because they were used a [TS]

01:22:13   lot in Clin in photography classes because they were fully manual right and [TS]

01:22:18   they know that thing was a prick and tax always had it shouldn't talk about them [TS]

01:22:25   in the past tense but all the member Pentax always had a good reputation for [TS]

01:22:31   that the controls were nice to know what you'd want like if you if you wanted to [TS]

01:22:39   change the aperture you'd want to do it this way and that's how they did it [TS]

01:22:43   you know the things he turned out good feel like I still have them when I got [TS]

01:22:48   his replacement which was an enemy with a couple sitting on the shelf my family [TS]

01:22:54   was not a photography family which is probably why I just didn't get the [TS]

01:22:57   interest we joke like Amy's family was sort of the same way [TS]

01:23:01   we joke and it's really no exaggeration that there are rolls of film from the [TS]

01:23:06   early eighties that's under undeveloped know but you know like 24 exposures and [TS]

01:23:14   they start the Jersey Shore on a summer vacation and in the end with me and my [TS]

01:23:19   sister opening Christmas presents you know it is like they would we would take [TS]

01:23:26   the camera on vacation and then you know shoot a couple photos at the beach and [TS]

01:23:31   but the whole role and then next thing you know it's Christmas morning in santa [TS]

01:23:36   came and it say hey get the camera so they say have a roll of film that's [TS]

01:23:42   undeveloped used to because films are coming different speeds and sometimes in [TS]

01:23:50   kuwait color and so you would sometimes take out a roll of film that was not [TS]

01:23:57   finished rolling back up into the into the thing without rolling in all the way [TS]

01:24:02   remember right on it how many pictures you taken and then you give you could [TS]

01:24:07   put it back in later and go past that to to use up the rest of the role as I have [TS]

01:24:13   one of those lying around I think it I think it is even been lying around like [TS]

01:24:19   long before I switch to digital so is probably from like the early nineties or [TS]

01:24:25   something like that I have no idea what's on it [TS]

01:24:27   not still not all development it was it was the worst even and when I got into [TS]

01:24:36   shooting film it you know I wasn't you know me water money runs my hands I mean [TS]

01:24:41   I was never afraid you know if the day's events I wanted to photograph i SAT 20 [TS]

01:24:47   exposures I think too much of a care about well let's take for pictures of I [TS]

01:24:53   don't know [TS]

01:24:54   but you do you did have that sense there a time you press the shutter you were [TS]

01:24:58   spending like spending money spending some kind of $0.25 $0.25 $0.25 even if [TS]

01:25:05   it's just like an undeveloped drugstore whatever ya right and I remember I used [TS]

01:25:12   to shoot Kodak I loved Kodak tri-x acts and I wasn't again I was super super you [TS]

01:25:20   know casually in the film photography I mean Anders so many people know way way [TS]

01:25:26   more about black and white film to me but Triax to me was needed because it [TS]

01:25:29   was super friendly to a not so good photographer had a wide range it was ISO [TS]

01:25:34   400 so you could use him pretty low light and it just tended to have this [TS]

01:25:38   high contrast black and white look that I really really liked and it's so funny [TS]

01:25:44   to me in the years since I think about it to just pop tracks in my camera go [TS]

01:25:49   out and shoot photos and again I don't really have a great I don't think [TS]

01:25:53   there's any chance that I was ever going to pressure you know I'm lucky if I got [TS]

01:25:58   to 24 if I got two or three interesting shots and never was really good at [TS]

01:26:03   looking at the real world around me and color and trying to figure out what [TS]

01:26:06   would look good in high-contrast by the way then you just take it to place and [TS]

01:26:11   then they give you twenty four things and be like many photos look so cool and [TS]

01:26:16   if you know like people's faces it would be like you know the right mix of light [TS]

01:26:21   and dark and then knowing in hindsight when you take colorful photographs and [TS]

01:26:26   go into Photoshop or anything how tricky it is to make a really cool high [TS]

01:26:29   contrast black and white mix whereas the film it just happened it just you know [TS]

01:26:34   automatic [TS]

01:26:39   you buy a white man are you sure you color I was not his black eye for a long [TS]

01:26:44   time and I mostly for a long period of us I was just so from that point where I [TS]

01:26:51   took that class in high school through at least three college I think I shot [TS]

01:26:56   all and then when I went to Japan so I guess like my junior college I wanted to [TS]

01:27:03   shoot color while it was there so that's probably about when I switch but then [TS]

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01:29:28   of stuff in there they always want to host of the show to pick a book which [TS]

01:29:34   has got it I was gonna ask but this time is such good timing [TS]

01:29:38   is no brainer totally easy no-brainer becoming Steve Jobs the evolution of a [TS]

01:29:43   reckless upstart into a visionary leader that's the book that came out a few [TS]

01:29:47   weeks ago I think a march by Brent Schlender and Rick dats deli and I've [TS]

01:29:54   been writing about it on during fireball few times I interviewed those guys on [TS]

01:29:58   stage in new york talk about [TS]

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01:30:00   last month I just think it's not a perfect book it is not and I know they [TS]

01:30:05   didn't snow and a few other people have brought up some of the things and some [TS]

01:30:08   of the things are just the Caribbean caught with like a technical editor [TS]

01:30:11   cause it's just stupid stuff I get in the name of certain max wrong certain [TS]

01:30:15   technical details like these guys are doing business writers and their writing [TS]

01:30:19   about Apple as a business and are not writing about it from the get all the [TS]

01:30:22   details right and I know people like me it is annoying Lycia stupid technical [TS]

01:30:27   error in there I get annoyed when people don't you know capitalize macworld right [TS]

01:30:32   now I think the day capitalize macro they they can't right so I know I know [TS]

01:30:38   but seriously the book is like 99% great and has some really really good original [TS]

01:30:43   stuff that nobody else has ever had and has a really neat personal touch and has [TS]

01:30:49   a long term view and jobs as business life because French lender had been [TS]

01:30:56   writing about them in talking about a min and part of his life and visit him [TS]

01:31:00   in his home every couple years for decades it's a tremendous i think is [TS]

01:31:07   great [TS]

01:31:07   personally it's an unabridged audiobook 16 hours 21 minutes so you're not [TS]

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01:31:32   slash the talk show as CNN's homepage though the main page they have the [TS]

01:31:37   martian which is a really good but they're just finished reading my son and [TS]

01:31:43   he's you know he likes he's not crazy or reading novels for some reason he really [TS]

01:31:49   likes reading nonfiction and tends to do that so we're trying to get him in the [TS]

01:31:54   novels in the way I come into this was told him to his loss wearing it and [TS]

01:31:59   there is there's a lot of swearing in it and but it's very funny and there's no [TS]

01:32:05   there's no dad violence there's no crazy sexual situations in a there's a lot of [TS]

01:32:11   hard science [TS]

01:32:13   shin and some swearing that he's so we plowed through that together and really [TS]

01:32:19   enjoyed that so it's a really good hard science fiction about a manned mission [TS]

01:32:23   to Mars yes she gets got stuck and it's becoming a movie I think coming on the [TS]

01:32:28   call I'm not mistaken with Matt Damon there you go I saw him at the immersion [TS]

01:32:34   I saw him stranded on a plan already well as getting typecast he's a much [TS]

01:32:42   nicer guy in this one [TS]

01:32:46   they've got the game of Thrones stuff anyway thanks to RW entire life [TS]

01:32:52   sorry what else is going on with us we got to talk about things other than the [TS]

01:33:02   other day we do both links that you sent me although the code goes into earnings [TS]

01:33:06   where the iPad so Apple reported earnings and iPhone is going nuts [TS]

01:33:16   they're seriously it's it's it's insane how often can you say but it's seriously [TS]

01:33:21   it's probably the single most popular and successful product in the history of [TS]

01:33:27   modern manufacturing in some people can't use that as a club because they [TS]

01:33:33   say that Apple's iPhone company now and that's the big problem because if [TS]

01:33:39   something happens the iPhone like something is just gonna happen to the [TS]

01:33:42   iPhone then they'll be in big trouble so look out well I do you know there was a [TS]

01:33:48   New York Times ride [TS]

01:33:49   wanna put in the show because it was so stupid it was like an apple stay on top [TS]

01:33:54   forever Apple can't stay on top forever just ask IBM and it was a stupid stupid [TS]

01:34:00   article because it didn't even say that the whole article could be replaced with [TS]

01:34:04   what goes up must come down and I don't know that there's anybody who's arguing [TS]

01:34:08   that Apple will remain the biggest company forever because I mean the heat [TS]

01:34:14   death of the universe is [TS]

01:34:16   imminent right i mean something's gonna happen eventually tell me give me [TS]

01:34:20   something it was like a lot of people pointed to me on Twitter I can't wait [TS]

01:34:24   for the clam chowder on this but it's actually clam chowder proof because he [TS]

01:34:27   didn't say anything that could ever be disproven he didn't say five years from [TS]

01:34:30   some day five years from now Apple will not be the biggest company or 10 years [TS]

01:34:33   left on my trip Chowdhry sixty days that's you know that's a good point out [TS]

01:34:43   that that let's hear it for trip Chowdhry least putting a line in the [TS]

01:34:47   sand heat his trip Chowdhry thing was a year ago that Apple had to be as a whole [TS]

01:34:55   lot of them actually but I think the one thing he needed to come out with a [TS]

01:34:59   bigger phone within 60 days yes they were going to permanent decline and his [TS]

01:35:06   sixty-day period by at least five or six months and all seemed to be doing ok [TS]

01:35:12   yeah that is least again give it to him he was incredibly wrong terribly [TS]

01:35:18   sensationalist shamelessly making a statement in my opinion he probably has [TS]

01:35:25   brain damage or you know a substance problem or he knew exactly what he was [TS]

01:35:31   saying and just knew that it would get quoted [TS]

01:35:33   which is my theory is that a lot of these guys like him and Rob Enderle and [TS]

01:35:37   everybody is with these guys and my answer is I think the answer is what [TS]

01:35:41   they're good at is they're good at getting your name out there being quoted [TS]

01:35:45   because and then that leads to consulting because people say Rob [TS]

01:35:49   Enderle I've seen you on TV and I've seen you quoted in The New York Times [TS]

01:35:52   you must be smart I was hired in for a big surprise never yeah you know I met [TS]

01:36:00   him tenderly almost all well I met him almost [TS]

01:36:07   ok I don't think I don't think I could do it when I was in San Francisco have [TS]

01:36:14   not told this is a good story house in San Francisco last September for the [TS]

01:36:18   iPhone event i believe it was the iPhone might have been the iPad in October but [TS]

01:36:24   I was out for the next day [TS]

01:36:29   t-mobile had an event right there in San Francisco right there on Market Street I [TS]

01:36:34   think you and I have been there at the bar that looks like an old news channel [TS]

01:36:39   newspaper you know like five at late edition or something that early edition [TS]

01:36:45   familiar to me see if there's a bar in San Francisco called early edition or [TS]

01:36:52   maybe there was charged in San Francisco tend to have a gr8 but they rented the [TS]

01:36:58   whole place out early edition local edition local edition yeah local edition [TS]

01:37:03   so anybody is interested in those its 691 Market Street so they tmobile rented [TS]

01:37:10   out local addition to pretty big bar for a cocktail bar and John Deere what you [TS]

01:37:20   know is announcing I think I don't know but the new unlimited plan or something [TS]

01:37:24   then they invited me and I never would have gone in a thousand years except for [TS]

01:37:27   the fact that I was already in San Francisco to changing my travel plans so [TS]

01:37:30   that's good I don't know you know the real you know somebody who covers stuff [TS]

01:37:35   like this and I'll go and it had a fun time but while I was standing in line [TS]

01:37:39   with I realize Rob Enderle was right behind me the person behind me I was [TS]

01:37:44   talking to [TS]

01:37:45   Africa I was talking to from the Burj somebody on the verge was right in front [TS]

01:37:52   of me [TS]

01:37:53   dieter Bohn was right in front of me and I was talking to him we're talking about [TS]

01:37:56   the phone you know I found and I realize Rob Enderle was right behind me and I [TS]

01:38:00   really thought about introducing myself but I think I could pull it off but my [TS]

01:38:04   worry was that maybe he has no idea why I didn't have to do in it it wasn't like [TS]

01:38:11   I got real shy and and just totally chickened out and I am willing to face [TS]

01:38:16   up call him a jackass but it would I'd couldn't figure out a way to do it [TS]

01:38:25   without playing both sides of the table of me like I'm always so for example I [TS]

01:38:32   always ran into this when I go into an Apple Retail Store is a lot of times I [TS]

01:38:36   go in and the people who helped me when they realize who I am they they [TS]

01:38:41   acknowledged oh I love your site I get obviously trained in the Apple Store is [TS]

01:38:47   that it's a funny thing I'm not a celebrity but an Apple store they're [TS]

01:38:52   trained that if you recognize somebody don't make a deal so I gave her true [TS]

01:38:57   like the mayor comes in they're supposed to treat them so they never [TS]

01:39:01   uncomfortable you know but other times it is clear that the person who's [TS]

01:39:05   checking out has no idea which is totally cool I don't care I don't want [TS]

01:39:10   to be better but sometimes it comes up I i buy it [TS]

01:39:20   Jonas's an impression here instead of ordering it online I bought Jonas's [TS]

01:39:28   macbook air on in the retail store and as I was getting close to Christmas a [TS]

01:39:37   couldn't trust their shipping so I went to buy it and the guy I was about this [TS]

01:39:43   and [TS]

01:39:45   comic book price of corrected cos he was playing Minecraft sorry I'm gonna buy [TS]

01:39:50   MacBook Pro and I knew exactly what I knew they had it and I said as well by [TS]

01:39:54   in the guys sorry gimme well what do you do you know what are you going to use it [TS]

01:39:57   for and I didn't want to tell just just just giving about them because it was [TS]

01:40:05   about Apple it does seem to me like you know if I said that then it would be [TS]

01:40:12   like I'm implying you're supposed to know I am and I don't think you're [TS]

01:40:15   supposed to know but anyway I can figure out how to do it and early and play both [TS]

01:40:19   sides of the street where it would be like we finally meet him he's not [TS]

01:40:26   expecting to have that but on the other hand I wouldn't be for you I wouldn't be [TS]

01:40:31   surprised if he has no idea never heard him he never heard of it because I think [TS]

01:40:34   he's you know he's so much on the line when I focused on getting quoted by like [TS]

01:40:38   the new york times and stuff like that you know my little things doesn't just [TS]

01:40:44   Lizzie lives in a completely different world yes exactly [TS]

01:40:46   PC world so you know I and our movements like for example also have never met him [TS]

01:40:58   but at the same Windows guy [TS]

01:41:09   father I'd never met almost met him last year when I was out at Microsoft build [TS]

01:41:14   conference I said was at the same like after party and I thought about going [TS]

01:41:19   everybody's real crowded and he was talking to somebody like I i didnt i [TS]

01:41:23   wouldnt hesitate to introduce myself to him and I've linked to him sometimes [TS]

01:41:27   complimentary sometimes I but a lot of times over the years I have linked him [TS]

01:41:31   you know [TS]

01:41:32   disagreement but say sure but I wouldn't hesitate introduced myself to him but I [TS]

01:41:37   know that he knows who I am so that at least the context I don't think that [TS]

01:41:45   every post he makes shows this but he releases a guy who I know its part yes [TS]

01:41:51   yeah I totally where it will end early I didn't know what the deal is I kinda [TS]

01:41:59   regret that I regret that I think the way to play it in hindsight would have [TS]

01:42:04   been to just over emphasize the humble part and just assume there is no idea I [TS]

01:42:09   am stronger by radar say but then why my introducing him that's then I can get [TS]

01:42:17   over is if I play it like that like as though I don't expect him to know who I [TS]

01:42:22   am then I don't see the point of introducing myself to is really the [TS]

01:42:25   point would be so this is the solution to my wife and I have come up to come up [TS]

01:42:30   with in situations like that is just a touch the person so we went away with [TS]

01:42:38   Tyler Zeller one time and any intermission they come out and a lot of [TS]

01:42:44   at least they used to and they just like the mill around a lot and talk to people [TS]

01:42:49   and and she's like we weren't friends are likely to talk to me like I'm [TS]

01:42:55   running the state when I guess I don't have nothing to say to the Penn Jillette [TS]

01:43:00   and I'm sitting on touch him since he just walks up to her and she just like [TS]

01:43:09   the arm and then just walks like he's talking to somebody you look at her so [TS]

01:43:17   like years later I'm at Macworld Conference and I C ryan Johnson on the [TS]

01:43:23   floor [TS]

01:43:28   executives retail I was with a friend who just walked up two runs on some same [TS]

01:43:36   thing exact same thing you talked to some guy who doesn't like me [TS]

01:43:42   just like john you've told me a lot of weird stories are told they must know [TS]

01:43:51   crazy it's crazy that you walk away without expecting like I really thought [TS]

01:43:56   you were gonna say like you put your hand on the shoulder and wait for them [TS]

01:43:59   to look at you and then now you just like it's the best thing though it's [TS]

01:44:03   like i've really got nothing I mean I might be interested but I don't you know [TS]

01:44:08   I don't know how to how to approach that I don't know what am i stupid website I [TS]

01:44:14   mean I don't know if I'm an idiot I talk to me so plus I prolly read something [TS]

01:44:26   like ours my second thought though is that it's a sign that you married right [TS]

01:44:35   this is that the method that's what you do in those situations you just touch [TS]

01:44:41   the person you've made you may contact that's needed more and more people [TS]

01:44:51   should consider making fools of themselves so I found most successful [TS]

01:45:05   product in history [TS]

01:45:07   Mac is doing better but it's like you know it looks like a successful product [TS]

01:45:14   in a very established category which is exactly what it is we're doing well is [TS]

01:45:18   very very stable and growth while sloping upward which is what a company [TS]

01:45:22   wants to see its sloping upward at a very very gentle slope as well but while [TS]

01:45:28   the rest of that that category is going down so you're going down so if the most [TS]

01:45:34   impressive thing perhaps about the Mac it's slow compared to zero but its slope [TS]

01:45:40   compared to the PC industry as a whole which always confuses me too because [TS]

01:45:44   there's that PC industry as a whole including apple or is it does it [TS]

01:45:50   does it mean Windows PCs because Apple sells enough max now where should fix [TS]

01:45:57   the curve yeah I don't know but anyway they say the industry is in decline in [TS]

01:46:02   Mac is good and then there's the iPad which has a very very weird and quite [TS]

01:46:08   frankly if you like the iPad or if you own Apple stock or whatever you know [TS]

01:46:16   worrisome perhaps because it declined and I will put this in motion I just [TS]

01:46:23   linked to it under incredible before we start requiring that dr. drying had a [TS]

01:46:28   really good post about how to visualize this you know and he pointed out that [TS]

01:46:32   way every did the simple way of pointing out where you just show this quarter [TS]

01:46:37   that square that quarter this quarter that quarter and unit sales is disguises [TS]

01:46:42   the trends because it's so skewed by the holiday quarter's which are even more [TS]

01:46:48   skewed for the iPad the last few years because that's also the quarter when the [TS]

01:46:53   new ones come out two reasons for there to be a burst and iPad sales new iPads [TS]

01:46:57   come out and people buy them for the holidays and ever since they switched to [TS]

01:47:02   an October that's the same quarter so that one quarter a year so he's using [TS]

01:47:08   moving averages to show the quarters trailing four quarters average which is [TS]

01:47:16   a common thing in financial yeah it's not a way to modeling it's not a way to [TS]

01:47:21   make it look good or bad it's a way to make it do to make the trek the actual [TS]

01:47:26   underlying trend visible like I would say that the easy way of doing it isn't [TS]

01:47:32   making it look good or bad it just is sort of noisy Apple's Way which he [TS]

01:47:38   points out which is the only show cumulative sales is let's face it sort [TS]

01:47:42   of a euphemistic charged as cumulative always goes up in this you know this [TS]

01:47:49   moving average type thing you can really see that there is not just at the to [TS]

01:47:54   flatten but that they're actually in decline but that said till it's a [TS]

01:48:01   product that sold 13 million units not exactly a failure and is that is the [TS]

01:48:09   tablet market down as well as well it is and there is a reader alcatraz quoted as [TS]

01:48:18   I thought it would have been trying to word it myself and I can't say it any [TS]

01:48:21   better than this but his exploration was and I didn't link to me but I've had [TS]

01:48:26   this thing that there's a there's a sort of durability explanation that people [TS]

01:48:30   have bought iPad and they're still using the one that they already had and I'm [TS]

01:48:35   not trying to justify my trying to spin it in any way but I'm just trying to [TS]

01:48:39   explain but I do think that's true and i know this first hand from Mike family [TS]

01:48:43   members who have relatively old iPad everything other than the original iPad [TS]

01:48:47   is a totally credible iPad today the original which my dad who uses because [TS]

01:48:52   he spend anything on anything but suffers because I really really hard to [TS]

01:49:00   use it ever get that I still remember my father but i pad 2 which is a long time [TS]

01:49:11   ago at 2 2011 device is fundamentally the same internal specs as the current [TS]

01:49:18   $249 iPad Mini nine Retina screen it's the same a wet for processor whatever [TS]

01:49:26   was a 6850 [TS]

01:49:27   sold processors same lower amount of RAM it so it's effectively a 2011 iPad 2 [TS]

01:49:35   which was expensive is the same as the $249 iPad you can go in today by saying [TS]

01:49:42   that it's a great experience I'm guessing it's not a great experience but [TS]

01:49:46   it's still there [TS]

01:49:48   Bailey Dr drank it depends on what you're using my white house has one that [TS]

01:49:56   we bought when they came out and she mostly as a zapper reading which of [TS]

01:50:01   course that's perfectly fine but she you know all those adventures in place of [TS]

01:50:06   you a few simple games she's not she's not playing you know like Unreal Engine [TS]

01:50:11   right now playing anything that's heavy duty graphical [TS]

01:50:17   I have never even looked at shelters in Manchuria I came here I just like the [TS]

01:50:24   third time on a podcast a nice week they've heard somebody mentioned it [TS]

01:50:27   things that like you just assume everybody knows ATP guys talk about is [TS]

01:50:33   you know again to take a game what kind of game is it it's like to play but now [TS]

01:50:47   there is a flat hebrew is that it's women the birds like they go over hills [TS]

01:50:54   it's a bit like it's a bit like that except instead of pressing to go down [TS]

01:51:05   you pressed to meet jumps so you're in your snowboarder and you have to do all [TS]

01:51:09   these different kinds of jumps and jump over things and also like pick up things [TS]

01:51:14   and then escaped from someone's chasing you but it's good it's visually very [TS]

01:51:22   nice music is nice [TS]

01:51:31   anyway one of his in an update today brings post he quotes a reader of his [TS]

01:51:36   band packard thinks its durability explanation to try and sort of said the [TS]

01:51:42   store ability is not so not that is not brushing off earlier and this guy says [TS]

01:51:47   that the Mac and COS drags argument is why does not apply to the Maxwell and [TS]

01:51:52   discusses the Mac has been around long enough for there to be substantial [TS]

01:51:55   numbers of owners at every stage of ownership in other words a brand new one [TS]

01:51:59   they medium aged one middle aged 14 they haven't called back that's ready to be [TS]

01:52:05   replaced and I would also see to the max been around long enough that ownership [TS]

01:52:10   is evenly distributed among people idiots like me buy new stuff every [TS]

01:52:16   couple years and people like my dad who will use an iMac until it breaks and [TS]

01:52:23   that the iPad is only did it all for the iPad lots and lots of iPad users are [TS]

01:52:28   still under first iPad and so we haven't gotten you know it'll take years before [TS]

01:52:32   it evens out right people who want to have a new iPad every year or two [TS]

01:52:37   because they're playing online games will be smoothed out compared to people [TS]

01:52:42   who dis read novels on their iPad and played gentle games and whatever the [TS]

01:52:47   long-term replacement cycle of iPads turns out to be were still in the first [TS]

01:52:51   one was still in the first replacement cycle for too many of the variations I [TS]

01:52:54   think that that's true but the only thing though is that Apple kind of [TS]

01:52:59   contributes to this by like you said making the low end model last year's [TS]

01:53:05   model or or in this case the model from several years ago so now you know if [TS]

01:53:11   you're a developer and you wanted code something you would be 190 complained [TS]

01:53:18   about this because they don't want to have to go to these older iPads because [TS]

01:53:24   its powerful anymore but they still but they still feel that need to to do that [TS]

01:53:31   so you know by selling by continuing to sell those older ones with the older [TS]

01:53:38   internals they're making the developers try and still [TS]

01:53:44   make those viable machine yeah I hold myself clearly I'm not that keyed into [TS]

01:53:49   the game industry I would say almost famous is so at this point but it [TS]

01:53:54   doesn't take a gamer to know that games are sort of at the forefront of that [TS]

01:53:58   word games are the sort of apps that most want to take advantage of the [TS]

01:54:03   latest and greatest hardware and things like metal and stuff like that only you [TS]

01:54:09   know only applies to the latest hardware that first game of the new generation [TS]

01:54:14   hardware and Apple works against that in a couple ways not just by selling those [TS]

01:54:19   things but the way the App Store set up an eighth that's not you can to submit [TS]

01:54:23   an app and say it only runs on the iPad air to even if that's the truth and say [TS]

01:54:29   you see these apps and games till Warren in election after putting a warning in [TS]

01:54:34   the description that if you own an iPad Mini whatever you own any of these iPads [TS]

01:54:42   don't don't buy this game [TS]

01:54:44   yeah which is weird thing like that you get mad and the like [TS]

01:54:54   just bought the site and i cant play this game of this ridiculous well and [TS]

01:54:58   then what do they do they give comp comments on the App Store charts a very [TS]

01:55:03   very bad circle it's it just goes to show that there you know obviously not [TS]

01:55:07   going to switch to a bit there is a certain certain beauty to the console [TS]

01:55:12   game model where they just say ok here is a generation product the ps4 and we [TS]

01:55:18   are going to have to sell this thing for five or six years maybe more I think [TS]

01:55:21   maybe the generations are getting a little older but then when you buy a [TS]

01:55:25   game the game just a corner says ps4 and then you know that that game will run as [TS]

01:55:32   it was expected to run on the ps4 the TV and I know yesterday's different models [TS]

01:55:38   in the UK [TS]

01:55:39   I guess ps4 is like that but with previous one some of them had bigger [TS]

01:55:42   hard drive but for the most part of the target so I don't know what do you think [TS]

01:55:49   is going on with type and yeah I mean it's think it said well I think that I [TS]

01:55:55   do think it's the durability to at least a certain degree I think an end and I'm [TS]

01:55:59   a non I don't don't know if durability is the right word I I go back it's like [TS]

01:56:05   a legacy I go back to the way that Apple framed the unveiling in 2010 and you [TS]

01:56:12   know going back to the audible read that wrong with the chair that was on the [TS]

01:56:17   stage at the job site in becoming Steve Jobs they say [TS]

01:56:22   sourcing and I was a little wasn't quite clear that nobody quite set up but they [TS]

01:56:26   made it pretty clear from their reporting that part of the reason for [TS]

01:56:30   the chair was to show the iPad in the context they wanted to show it which was [TS]

01:56:33   sitting back rather than send forward but it was also a concession to jobs as [TS]

01:56:38   physical stamina that you know he couldn't stand for two hours but I do I [TS]

01:56:44   think fundamentally though that there was something to that did they pick the [TS]

01:56:48   right way to frame it which was there was no device on the market that was [TS]

01:56:52   meant for use hand-held sitting back whether you're seeing back in a chair or [TS]

01:56:58   on the couch or laying on the bed or you know and let you know [TS]

01:57:04   see it every time I get on airplanes sitting on airplanes he sitting back [TS]

01:57:07   holding something in your hand which is the traditional form factor of poker [TS]

01:57:11   magazine right compared to something like a laptop that is meant to be laid [TS]

01:57:17   flat on a desk while you sit forward you should see my son is the edge of it [TS]

01:57:25   under a lil lie down on the couch in the front edge of it under his chin i've [TS]

01:57:32   seen that i've seen as well i've seen [TS]

01:57:34   but beyond the form factor was not meant is not conducive to those things in so I [TS]

01:57:42   think there's this enormous untapped market and it also coincided coming [TS]

01:57:49   three years after the iPhone in and almost ten years after the iPod with [TS]

01:57:55   finally you know real sense finally mass market awareness of Apple products you [TS]

01:58:03   know and and and affinity for them that there was this huge untapped market [TS]

01:58:09   because it never been a product that meant to fit and that over inflated the [TS]

01:58:14   early years of iPad sells yeah and I really that was done right it was just [TS]

01:58:22   untapped because like you know the 11 inch air which may be at the time was [TS]

01:58:27   like the closest and had to device just wasn't good in any of those physical [TS]

01:58:32   contacts you know kind of wonder if the if the large screen iPhones will go [TS]

01:58:37   through the same thing that's because there has been there has been so much [TS]

01:58:42   pent up demand for that form factor and getting a bunch of people who have [TS]

01:58:47   switching because they wanted an iPhone along but they wanted a big iPhone and [TS]

01:58:52   now they've got one and it will be interesting to see what happens from [TS]

01:58:56   here on out and I doubt that the health problems serious problems [TS]

01:59:01   iPad like problems but I wonder if the growth I did not quite what it was I do [TS]

01:59:08   that I think that there might be some potential one thing with the with the [TS]

01:59:12   iPhone that remarkable is that they've never had a year over year ninety minute [TS]

01:59:21   drop that I don't even think it ever stayed flat [TS]

01:59:23   every single year has been year increase in sales and for the first couple of [TS]

01:59:30   years now this was truly unsustainable I know that people have said a lot of the [TS]

01:59:34   growth growth is unsustainable has large numbers baba's the first few years each [TS]

01:59:42   successive generation of iphone not only sold more than one before it sold more [TS]

01:59:47   than all previous generations combined I think that was true up until like the [TS]

01:59:51   iPhone 4 or maybe even for us like the iPhone 4 sold more than the original the [TS]

01:59:57   3G and 3G s combined the 3ds it sold more than the original 3G combined in [TS]

02:00:01   the 3ds will you know like a remarkable growth obviously that was not [TS]

02:00:07   sustainable that was that that sort of pace it would very quickly run out of [TS]

02:00:11   people on the planet [TS]

02:00:12   you know would you know but it still is great but I do wonder if you're right [TS]

02:00:17   though that like this so much pent up demand for a quote big iPhone that was [TS]

02:00:23   exactly like that there may be a depressed sales for a few years [TS]

02:00:25   beforehand and now people now they've got it they're happy with it and yeah [TS]

02:00:30   it's still it might take a few cycles [TS]

02:00:33   fully flesh out Ryan NNN maybe in the maybe there's some other thing that's [TS]

02:00:37   all you know come up with the gym and to re-invigorate again [TS]

02:00:43   ya bye bye then everyone will want to go back to school I think that it will I [TS]

02:00:51   think it'll go I think that the first sign will be that the high-end sales [TS]

02:00:59   level off because its going to reach I do think that has to happen eventually [TS]

02:01:04   gotta be getting closer to it and that the growth will come by making more and [TS]

02:01:09   better lower end iPhones to expand the market you know and other countries with [TS]

02:01:15   lower incomes yeah but that which which will overall though it might keep [TS]

02:01:21   growing [TS]

02:01:22   the number of users but it's gonna grow financial implications of it eventually [TS]

02:01:27   yeah but the thing i mean a thing about Apple with the large numbers is that [TS]

02:01:34   they're very good about making sure that if someone's gonna Campbell as their [TS]

02:01:38   sales it's gonna be alright I think that helps protect them from problem you know [TS]

02:01:47   you don't know what happens you know when you when you're focused on so much [TS]

02:01:50   on one products like we are this company and we make this thing and you know hey [TS]

02:01:55   everybody loves our product and you know and then you get to the point where ok [TS]

02:01:58   already has your product [TS]

02:02:00   well then they don't know what to do next and Apple doesn't think that way [TS]

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02:02:28   guy I didn't even know there was such a thing but there is a standard car [TS]

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02:03:00   automatics too dangerous right in there and every car since 1996 has one of [TS]

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02:03:20   their cars on the internet because your phone while driving around so what is it [TS]

02:03:24   do what's the point why would you want to do this you're not a mechanic if you [TS]

02:03:27   were a mechanic you already know about this right we use their free mobile app [TS]

02:03:30   and the mobile app shows you I guess a check engine light comes on [TS]

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02:03:42   exactly what's wrong with your car like check engine light just need to take the [TS]

02:03:46   car to someone who knows what they're doing well now you know exactly what it [TS]

02:03:49   is it could be something that is just complete nonsense right there you can [TS]

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02:04:12   car off the automatic to says the phone ok [TS]

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02:04:19   you don't remember where you parked well you can just check the app in the App [TS]

02:04:22   know this part and it also does some coaching with driving habits tells you [TS]

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02:04:48   motion movement automatic does for your car [TS]

02:04:52   Apple watch for car their fans of the show they remember the old episode with [TS]

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02:05:18   but you go over 70 and it'll give you a little buzz like a slowdown in a [TS]

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02:05:23   to save me a lot of trouble but you can customize that so I returned it 75 but [TS]

02:05:32   then you get a nice warning in serious stuff I am joking around but they have [TS]

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02:06:01   until help arrived help arrives they've got nasty integration so you can do [TS]

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02:08:03   everybody should be built in with this thing that this this is she wakes up and [TS]

02:08:11   looks at the fracture picture right some other states so what else on their [TS]

02:08:20   earnings for the iPad anything China dang gangbusters China and and did you [TS]

02:08:30   see that been barren posted a short yesterday or today can number that shows [TS]

02:08:38   the various market share market shares in in China and apples shoots up in [TS]

02:08:47   jammies should stand so now Apple's App over Jeremy's wow so they're like them [TS]

02:08:52   too long [TS]

02:08:53   thinks it yeah yeah in which is kind of ironic since we had to listen for so [TS]

02:09:03   long about how was doomed to China because it tells me it well and that [TS]

02:09:07   Apple is doomed without a low-cost phone like I feel like the ways that sometimes [TS]

02:09:12   if I lose the forest for the trees with clam chowder it's it's over whether it [TS]

02:09:18   was important or not you know like you know and and to me the need to low-cost [TS]

02:09:24   phone was important because these people they were very serious people who are [TS]

02:09:28   making the argument in the most dire terms possible that the only way the [TS]

02:09:33   iPad or iPhone could continue and and be any meaningful success for the company [TS]

02:09:37   would be if they went after the low-cost market they've already got the high-end [TS]

02:09:41   market they gotta go low or else there do you mean you could fill a book with [TS]

02:09:47   the clam chowder on that and what did they do they have raised the price there [TS]

02:09:51   is the price of the average selling price is like $60 higher year over year [TS]

02:09:56   because the iPhone six-plus starts on $1 higher [TS]

02:10:00   and so many people are buying the iPhone 6 instead of like the mid-range phone so [TS]

02:10:06   that their average selling prices significantly higher not just like you [TS]

02:10:11   know put in a stress test heard it's actually a dollar higher than a year [TS]

02:10:14   it's like 60 bucks a phone higher and and it was like they're never going to [TS]

02:10:21   succeed in China instead they've had unprecedented success in China with [TS]

02:10:28   their most expensive I found over their number one number two way and Samsung [TS]

02:10:39   and Lenovo Sony that URL and paste so I can forget to put it [TS]

02:10:45   sure I i think thats interesting and I think it's I talked to some of these [TS]

02:10:54   years ago and I know it's it's hyperbole cuz it's like the opposite but the gist [TS]

02:11:00   of the argument I heard a few years ago is that there's no such thing as [TS]

02:11:03   emerging markets that that's at least from Apple's perspective there are those [TS]

02:11:08   people who can afford to buy Apple products and there's people who can't [TS]

02:11:12   and yes there the distribution is not the same from country to country but [TS]

02:11:19   that all sorts of other things change from country to country you know and [TS]

02:11:24   that people in Germany by products for different reasons than people in France [TS]

02:11:28   even though Germany and France are like economically peers in terms of like [TS]

02:11:33   income and stuff like that [TS]

02:11:35   but that in Germany I could be you know I could be getting this run this might [TS]

02:11:38   not be right but it's you know like maybe in germany it's like it a lot more [TS]

02:11:42   important that if everybody work with uses this brand that you would use that [TS]

02:11:46   brand to whereas in France it's more of an individualist and maybe if you notice [TS]

02:11:51   that a lot of the people you work with these Apple phone that it be making more [TS]

02:11:54   likely to buy a Samsung phone to be different cuz its cultural difference [TS]

02:11:57   but that the economic differences are just another factor in this incredibly [TS]

02:12:02   different [TS]

02:12:03   difficult matrix of what is going to sell where but that the fact that [TS]

02:12:07   there's billions of people in China and that their overall average income is [TS]

02:12:11   actually pretty low and a lot of them by UE standards it's incredibly low not [TS]

02:12:16   possible for them to buy an iPhone doesn't mean that they need to cater to [TS]

02:12:20   that market to survive and that I think I think the thing I sign again I could [TS]

02:12:25   be wrong but it makes sense to me is that there's more millionaires in China [TS]

02:12:28   than any other country inn or maybe I'm wrong but I bet it if it's not everyone [TS]

02:12:35   is getting pretty close yeah yeah and their middle classes as balloon which is [TS]

02:12:42   one of things they talked about them so that's perfect for ya people that Apple [TS]

02:12:51   Apple sells and I you know I don't think Apple sees the future I think you talk [TS]

02:12:55   to people that you know they make educated guesses but then they look and [TS]

02:12:59   then they had just you know clearly one of the adjustments is clearly that they [TS]

02:13:04   got caught a little flat-footed on the big screen [TS]

02:13:07   trend with smartphones and it actually goes back to what you were talking about [TS]

02:13:12   the first hour of the show on production and how do they produced this amazing [TS]

02:13:18   number of iPhone 16 6 plusses [TS]

02:13:20   assume right out of the gate the first day that they're supposed to be [TS]

02:13:23   available [TS]

02:13:23   well one of the ways they do that is they kind of started the train on that [TS]

02:13:27   like two years ago like this year's iPhone was started two years ago [TS]

02:13:31   you know next year's you know the one that there's a brand new phone or some [TS]

02:13:34   teams somewhere topple starting work on a brand new iPhone right now that's a [TS]

02:13:38   common market for another two years and so if the trend towards big iPhones [TS]

02:13:43   became evident to them too late [TS]

02:13:45   there's no way to catch up quickly because it you know you can tell when [TS]

02:13:50   they decided that they needed to make a bigger iPhone because it was about two [TS]

02:13:53   years before the iPhone 66 bus came out so they definitely follow trends I but I [TS]

02:14:00   think overall though they're very very [TS]

02:14:03   going where the puck is going to be by Stan high-end China going lower and [TS]

02:14:08   because it's it's there's so much economic growth there in a country where [TS]

02:14:14   do you see you think long-term that they would they would go further down the [TS]

02:14:17   scale I think eventually has to i think because it's just the inevitable way [TS]

02:14:23   they're all computers eventually really will go good enough I mean just look at [TS]

02:14:27   the MAC like I mean we're talking about on the scale [TS]

02:14:31   released 31 years or so [TS]

02:14:38   three-decade-old product and it's still relatively high end like the cheapest [TS]

02:14:44   Mac you can buy the 899 MacBook Air is pretty expensive compared to PC laptops [TS]

02:14:50   but the idea of an $899 Mac laptop go back fifteen years and that is crazy [TS]

02:14:59   town that's you know I'm talking about all very long scale least five six seven [TS]

02:15:04   years you know that at some point there's gonna have to be new iPhones [TS]

02:15:09   that are at a lower price and there still may be an iPhone programming call [TS]

02:15:13   it whatever you want [TS]

02:15:14   like the MacBook Pro but I think the price on that is going to have to come [TS]

02:15:18   down eventually to write it's it's not going to be and 700 800 900 dollar [TS]

02:15:24   device for you know forever just the way that like higher-end MacBook used to [TS]

02:15:30   cost you know $5,000 $6,000 routinely spent 2500 I mean I think it's like that [TS]

02:15:39   was like for a long time [TS]

02:15:40   power books mostly and I you know again this could be like 10 years things [TS]

02:15:47   easily maybe even morning and the Mac is 30 years old it took a long time for the [TS]

02:15:51   Mac to have a laptop that was really consumer-friendly price but then there's [TS]

02:15:56   so much technology that can still improve battery life can still go you [TS]

02:15:59   know make and Norden you know we wouldn't be nice to have a bad I found a [TS]

02:16:03   need to be charged once a week [TS]

02:16:05   the camera can improve tremendously I mean all sorts of things like that but [TS]

02:16:12   eventually I think it's gotta happen never gonna get better they keep using a [TS]

02:16:17   simple matter how great your iPhone battery would be if they put it they put [TS]

02:16:27   us down there one of those $5 batteries are you buy buckets of white apple last [TS]

02:16:41   thing I can think of is Microsoft a ton of announcements that the building build [TS]

02:16:47   conference which I guess is ongoing as required and in typical everybody but [TS]

02:16:54   Apple fashion they spread them out of there still doing the keynote yeah I [TS]

02:17:02   think I could but I started yesterday morning I thought it was to keep saying [TS]

02:17:07   it's one thing is the same one so highlights is they announced a two [TS]

02:17:17   initiatives one that you can cross compile iOS apps for Windows 10 which i [TS]

02:17:26   think is i think is mainly about games I did not gonna say that but their example [TS]

02:17:32   that was i candy crush saga including in like Objective C it's like so it's like [TS]

02:17:37   a way to rate Windows apps in Objective C which is again I'm not a Coco program [TS]

02:17:44   never have been but I have to go back to the like the next era I mean infamously [TS]

02:17:51   there was a part of the contention like when next was that I thought it with [TS]

02:17:55   that it's only been about Apple but go on to next then again this is all [TS]

02:18:00   detailed it I knew this story but it was detailed in becoming Steve Jobs [TS]

02:18:04   next needed productivity apps and they didn't have the pigments and so the ones [TS]

02:18:08   and they did have were all written for text by you know they were like next [TS]

02:18:13   little island and it was no Microsoft Office for next and they needed it for [TS]

02:18:18   you know whether was for marketing or whether it's for file compatibility and [TS]

02:18:21   Bill Gates quote was developed for a piss on it or something something [TS]

02:18:28   something you have read and kind of bodily function on and on the net [TS]

02:18:34   he had so little interest in doing it and you know and to think that now and [TS]

02:18:40   2015 Microsoft is again it's not quite the same thing is developing you know [TS]

02:18:45   for a while though you know also Microsoft has an awful lot of iOS apps [TS]

02:18:49   that they make and yea and they're still right Mac software stuff like that you [TS]

02:18:55   know the ton ton ton ton of that so it really mean they're much more a cross [TS]

02:19:01   platform company yes definitely but it's just crazy to think that they are [TS]

02:19:05   supporting Objective C which of niche programming languages but the irony to [TS]

02:19:12   that struck me though is that Microsoft is going after mobile developers to [TS]

02:19:17   support objective see exactly when Apple is like 10 months into a long-term push [TS]

02:19:26   to move everybody to a new language swift I wonder if they had that lying [TS]

02:19:31   around I don't know Microsoft just gonna do that now that's the sort of thing [TS]

02:19:37   that they're really really good at I mean it's you know their developer tools [TS]

02:19:40   teams probably the best compiler engineers and then also have a great [TS]

02:19:47   thing one and thing i think is my understanding again it's been a busy [TS]

02:19:52   couple days but my understand with the Android support is that it's more like a [TS]

02:19:55   runtime compared to when you say to me [TS]

02:19:59   runtime compatibility [TS]

02:20:01   on our number one as it gave first and foremost cares about the responsiveness [TS]

02:20:07   gross but then the other to me is in today's world everything I mean what are [TS]

02:20:15   you using this are plugged in I mean everything has wireless now I even got [TS]

02:20:19   them the new MacBook is meant to be used with you say runtime compatibility and I [TS]

02:20:25   hear you can just wash off and running if you turn on the percentage meter you [TS]

02:20:33   can just watch the the ones digit move [TS]

02:20:36   668 got a minute and 20 seconds to play this game i I just and I know that [TS]

02:20:47   they're good they have really good engineers but it just sounds to me like [TS]

02:20:51   a terrible idea [TS]

02:20:53   yeah i i i mean it's all of those used to try and get Apple to do that kind of [TS]

02:21:02   thing to write and just never seemed like a good idea is what you what you [TS]

02:21:07   want is people coding directly for your reply to you as an app which occurred in [TS]

02:21:16   deliberately for somebody else but i mean in terms of like for mobile apps [TS]

02:21:22   this point taken things get I guess well and it also the other thought that [TS]

02:21:28   popped into my head was the same way that Sony is making 20 bucks a pop on [TS]

02:21:33   samsung and iPhone sales with Microsoft while they're losing money on Windows [TS]

02:21:39   phones that they're making and selling with the Nokia thing they bought their [TS]

02:21:43   making high on every hundred phone with all the patent licensing deal forced [TS]

02:21:49   where according to the law [TS]

02:21:51   rightfully so [TS]

02:21:52   you know we can show it to ours but they're making a nice tidy profit every [TS]

02:22:00   year on funds right makes you wonder it was like 10 at one point he said like [TS]

02:22:07   $10 or something crazy like no serious money you know especially given that the [TS]

02:22:14   way that Android is much more about quantity of units rather than quantity [TS]

02:22:22   of you know price per unit [TS]

02:22:25   yeah right like you'd rather have $10 per unit on Android in Western countries [TS]

02:22:32   then have $10 per unit on iPhone sales percentage wears Android you want [TS]

02:22:39   something like that [TS]

02:22:40   $10 you know what could be a lot of money and idea what else I think that [TS]

02:22:46   the hollow lens things really start to look cool cool to begin with it it's [TS]

02:22:51   like the only thing is that it's not a product now and it still has again it's [TS]

02:22:56   still no price no availability date but in the time since they're showing it is [TS]

02:23:01   there showing it again [TS]

02:23:02   well and it doesn't require the backpack anymore right like when they show that [TS]

02:23:06   the last time it had like some kind of a backpack but you know how to piece it [TS]

02:23:13   wasn't just under that is connected to it and and now it's entirely on your [TS]

02:23:17   head like they've made significant gains in terms of you know how practical it [TS]

02:23:24   would actually be again who knows what they're even think about the price but [TS]

02:23:27   and I think it looks really cool and i can totally see wanting it to show my [TS]

02:23:37   big worry is that this Holland is gonna be so totally cool and is so totally not [TS]

02:23:42   going to work with the one behind it really do [TS]

02:23:49   I was going to another friend who has it not just read the detachment but just a [TS]

02:23:53   weird I problem in one i Simpson situation anywhere it's one I just [TS]

02:23:58   doesn't see a Nazi so good ever again and that we're both sort of like been [TS]

02:24:04   looking forward to Lake Dr our whole lives and might be missing out on any [TS]

02:24:08   prospect of good stereo VCR but anyway I think it looks super cool I have to say [TS]

02:24:16   hi to me that is the golden goose in their development by like there's [TS]

02:24:20   something there that could be a hit product well I really hope it is no I [TS]

02:24:24   mean end and like I said I'm glad that they're showing it again and it wasn't [TS]

02:24:27   just something that they tried out to be easily made a big splash and now we're [TS]

02:24:31   just going to kind of forgot about the things I mean even if it's you know who [TS]

02:24:35   knows it's a sometimes you make a cool platform and you never know where it's [TS]

02:24:39   going to go right like the iPhone people use it you know people use iPads in [TS]

02:24:42   hospitals and universities and its divide that and other people used to [TS]

02:24:46   read books and play games and whatever I could see this being that sort of thing [TS]

02:24:50   where some people buy it so they can play Minecraft on their table top which [TS]

02:24:53   really does look cool like the demo that they show it looks amazing I could see [TS]

02:24:57   it like being an amazing gaming device but I can also see it being used in a [TS]

02:25:01   really serious way like in a factory floor so that you know somebody who's [TS]

02:25:05   working assembling something can get this real-time display and I we see [TS]

02:25:09   people probably how can you say that this is cool and all over Google glass [TS]

02:25:14   all the time and it's like i cant we have to explain it it's like the idea of [TS]

02:25:21   a heads up display is it idea and nobody has ever said that Google glass was not [TS]

02:25:26   the idea of a heads up display Google glass was the exact Google glass thing [TS]

02:25:31   that they made which was ridiculous and stupid right and I just know that these [TS]

02:25:37   people they want somebody whether it's Microsoft with this Holland or somebody [TS]

02:25:41   else who's got a secret then and some is gonna make a heads up display that is [TS]

02:25:45   cool and people say it's cool and his Google Google fans are gonna be like you [TS]

02:25:50   know 'cause calling hypocrisy and it's like no you know [TS]

02:25:56   criticizing [TS]

02:25:57   a specific product is not Chris criticizing product category or general [TS]

02:26:01   idea like I think Microsoft has done that have you know it twelve different [TS]

02:26:06   things better than Google glass like they're not making something that [TS]

02:26:09   they're proposing that you're gonna win today that start with that yeah right [TS]

02:26:14   now and I've seen people who said well you know if your Google glass and we're [TS]

02:26:18   aware of if you know like the factory forcing well then if that's your case if [TS]

02:26:22   you're working why not make it bigger why does have this little thing up in [TS]

02:26:26   the corner and why not do like Microsoft's to give yourself a big full [TS]

02:26:29   field of vision to see the apt to have to they've they've written it and its to [TS]

02:26:39   me this is very unlikely but they are universal apps work literally on every [TS]

02:26:44   product they have from desktop PC to a phone and to this hallowed land so like [TS]

02:26:50   if you read like a Twitter client you can have like the same Twitter client [TS]

02:26:54   that runs on your phone and runs on your laptop would also be added holland's on [TS]

02:26:59   you could projected on your wall [TS]

02:27:02   projected on a wall you'd see it on all right it's interesting it's a very edge [TS]

02:27:10   of sort of Xbox he kind of like a new Xbox or thing and how they're they seem [TS]

02:27:17   to be likely when they when they started on the Xbox they bought bungee he loves [TS]

02:27:22   the big centerpiece they're not exactly doing this with Minecraft but they're [TS]

02:27:27   definitely you know they're they're speaking to a whole generation of people [TS]

02:27:32   much younger kids by playing that plane that into this device and i think is [TS]

02:27:42   shown my son that Jonas says he'll want one immediately Jonas has seen it and [TS]

02:27:50   it's Christmas time I told you about the cars at the car show I don't think I [TS]

02:28:03   want to come out of town you know that growing up in an apple focused household [TS]

02:28:12   has also when you see when you see something you know it's a little rain is [TS]

02:28:16   gonna be available shortly [TS]

02:28:18   like the longest one in his lifetime as the watch and the watch that is shipping [TS]

02:28:23   now hopefully you know hopefully shipping is a pretty much 98.9% what [TS]

02:28:32   they showed back in September very very very similar yeah [TS]

02:28:38   he did he did did he get heating get his yet no I did not know and as far as I [TS]

02:28:43   know like I said it's far as I can tell on Twitter I haven't done deep research [TS]

02:28:46   done nobody who ordered 30 8mm space black space grey whatever you call it [TS]

02:28:51   got 142 has but as far as I can tell her Space Gray has not shipped and I can [TS]

02:28:59   definitely well I skipping it in my almost ordered 30 good thing I didn't [TS]

02:29:05   say that we should wrap up but I will say this I have the 42 of 42 and I i [TS]

02:29:12   asked it for the review unit asked me what I want without trying it on it was [TS]

02:29:19   like before I was there for the briefing so I didn't get to I'm sure that if I [TS]

02:29:22   said hey this is ridiculous 38 that they could have nominated me but and i think [TS]

02:29:27   im happy with the decision and honestly it the title back with being the show [TS]

02:29:30   part of it is my site and actually no I find thirty little harder to read well [TS]

02:29:37   that's and that's what I was that's what I was told as I was heavily leaning 38 [TS]

02:29:41   designed my wrists or not and I was really and I've always had smaller [TS]

02:29:46   September you know I'm not have always had smaller sized watches and I didn't [TS]

02:29:53   want something clicky thing because I tried on a friend of my wife says [TS]

02:29:56   Motorola 360 and so I tried on hers and it's nothing like that so huge and so I [TS]

02:30:05   was worried about it but I but I was told like a battery life by being [TS]

02:30:12   concerned and then also green screen sizes actually kinda want something a [TS]

02:30:16   little bit so does it benefit to it anyway and so it went 42 nite but I [TS]

02:30:23   tried Amy's 30 8mm with the Milanese on and it looked perfect looked at just did [TS]

02:30:28   not look dainty didn't like the least bit and i met that's the thing it's not [TS]

02:30:33   the same day I'm watching other than the size of its not like this one doesn't [TS]

02:30:39   have flowers all over these two small though [TS]

02:30:45   really could I wrote about yeah I suppose but if you have really small [TS]

02:30:50   wrists and I was perfectly happy yeah I think 38 is like a regular man size [TS]

02:30:59   watch you know not in the modern world where these watches are really big but I [TS]

02:31:04   going back a long time and that are most women it's going to look like a large [TS]

02:31:08   woman it's a regular man's watch our large woman to watch and 42 is sort of a [TS]

02:31:13   slightly large meant what ya gotta do you see Rundle so good designer to post [TS]

02:31:23   a medium where he complained that it way too small like that's how small watches [TS]

02:31:28   that there's some people with good taste you know but we're used to the the the [TS]

02:31:31   current watch market who who who seriously and I think correctly argue [TS]

02:31:36   that it's too small [TS]

02:31:37   yes some people some people really do like large watching right I honestly [TS]

02:31:42   don't know I don't either I think it's a weird trend i dont yeah but there's [TS]

02:31:50   nobody nobody is arguing about any others on the market today that its too [TS]

02:31:54   small anyway [TS]

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