The Talk Show

110: ‘Rats in the Lobby’, With Guest Merlin Mann

 

  is still there are you know what I did at you sound so much better than i did I [TS]

  plugged it into a different USB port who I gotta think this is part of the last [TS]

  episode all recorded using this old there are you gonna go to the new iMac [TS]

  now well yeah I guess I should i shouldnt why don't I don't know [TS]

  yeah the air is powerful enough to do that that's probably why the show sounds [TS]

  like should know I you know and I actually know that this this old MacBook [TS]

  Air that I've used by I do it because I'm in some ways I'm a seminal and I [TS]

  think I've recorded like every episode of the talk show for I don't know at [TS]

  least the last 34 years using that air so I want to keep doing yeah I mean you [TS]

  said no not at all but you said not too long ago how baseball is baseball fans [TS]

  there are people who are into the numbers of people who are into the story [TS]

  and your story guy right right and then you know the MacBook Airs gotta get a [TS]

  story when I stopped using my road I was pretty nervous because I was like I've [TS]

  been using this since forty three folders Mac break weekly like you know [TS]

  it's so done it I'm just changing to a better mike lee with that matter it [TS]

  shouldn't but I felt like a little bit disloyal oh it what did you switch to do [TS]

  couple things I'm using assure [TS]

  7 be no gotta it's super annoying so I gotta go through a this Presonus thing I [TS]

  want that I think Marcos tell me about that yeah I don't want to do that you [TS]

  know I think I just too much rock music I when people have these conversations [TS]

  about stuff i just i just don't hear it I don't hear what they're talking about [TS]

  makes me feel like a charlatan I i mean I can notice in production values like [TS]

  win like the public radio show with a budget sounds different than three guys [TS]

  talking about Linux not like I don't notice that much about mics and stuff do [TS]

  you know I don't you listen to the podcast metals into a lot goes into [TS]

  enough but when I do I'm listening with your buds so [TS]

  and I you know I don't think in a lot of times I would say easily eighty-five [TS]

  percent of the time I'm listening to podcasts walking through the city so [TS]

  there's so much noise you know is that the quality of the Miami now you know [TS]

  why I understand why people make it sound as good as they can but I could [TS]

  never hear the difference between Mike did you get a delivery drivers license [TS]

  to remember it was on an episode of the talk show with Dan and you had the [TS]

  holiday party it's my favorite episode of the talk show and how they took your [TS]

  license away I don't remember that it was the holiday season to remember and I [TS]

  don't remember why they take away so I made out to remember ever get so many [TS]

  points Ryan I had seen you refused to go to traffic school and and and you know [TS]

  the dance credit he he he played the entire episode straight it was really [TS]

  funny how that was a good that was a HRE HRE and I got should write that down for [TS]

  the show and i got I think most people got it but I definitely got a fair [TS]

  amount of email from listeners who are telling me hey you know maybe you ought [TS]

  to get some help you know that's not funny it's not funny racking up all [TS]

  those points you know that hurts the government there I you know you're going [TS]

  to learn you know crossing the street kid Jesus Christ you know I am so tired [TS]

  words and discussed up saying things it's just give up and just gonna make [TS]

  grants and maybe a little but you know no matter what you say last night on the [TS]

  Twitter about how I wish Netflix streaming five seasons match the five [TS]

  good seasons match how I wish they would have without the laugh track me [TS]

  responses from people on the one hand telling me how Palin that's physically [TS]

  impossible since it's hard to hold it and in other people's [TS]

  the DVD truck so that I know that I was just it's it's just the federal common [TS]

  it's it's ok everything's gonna be fine you must get that bike to the 10th power [TS]

  especially when you're being jokey about whatever sports technology you must you [TS]

  must get so many responses from people I can never predict though like I'll post [TS]

  some kind of you know absurd to eat and I think I gotta get so many people who [TS]

  take this seriously and then there's nothing and then I throw one out the [TS]

  many worried about and everybody is absolutely no way to know I make I make [TS]

  a lot of news related your mother jokes and every time I expect incredible blow [TS]

  back nothing that's right that's awesome and they won't crack of a match having a [TS]

  laugh track and like the gallery rises one but it's good what was the deal with [TS]

  matches left right away I recall it is season one there was no laugh track and [TS]

  it was a ratings it was it was precipitous that it was like the ratings [TS]

  were so bad that it was on the border of not coming back for another season and [TS]

  that they wanted to one of the changes they made between season 1 season two is [TS]

  they added a laugh track [TS]

  yeah I don't I remember having read and most people who enjoy them a show it's a [TS]

  pretty hot topic because you can on the DVDs I don't own the DVDs I hate DVDs I [TS]

  hate physical media to my house i mean i three at the court of last resort I [TS]

  gotta get all the James Bond films like everybody you know about $100 blu-ray [TS]

  package I got that I got the godfather and then I got a Dora something like [TS]

  that but that's about it and yeah they had an alternate track where you can [TS]

  have the audio without the laugh track I don't remember exactly how it happened [TS]

  except I mean think about the time was at 72 73 something like that where every [TS]

  every like three camera sitcom had a live audience can you get your own [TS]

  families and stuff [TS]

  and I think you know it probably seemed a little dead two people and some of the [TS]

  humor is prob was probably a little bit dry it's just it suddenly became not [TS]

  very dry and there's a very obvious left on it I just I really hate laugh tracks [TS]

  they just did they drive me crazy and you can actually go and you know if you [TS]

  know where to go I know you don't do these things but you can find copies of [TS]

  it and it is actually a pretty different experience you go watch my favorite [TS]

  episode Abyssinia henry the one where Henry leaves that episode it's the end [TS]

  of season 3 I'm sure I'm sure he dies he gets shot out of the air and it's the [TS]

  Epson right before trap proper leaves at the end of the season it's an amazing [TS]

  scene at the end where radar walks into the operating room in and read the [TS]

  notice that Henry's dad incredibly moving and watching that episode without [TS]

  the laugh track is it is a different thing cuz it's one of the great episodes [TS]

  of TV and you know you know it's good baby in a way that people at that time [TS]

  wouldn't know it's good if you little insulting to have to put all that on its [TS]

  super loud like on some shows like 90 shows where the laugh track got so loud [TS]

  but yeah but it it always felt to me even as a kid and and growing up in an [TS]

  era when all sitcoms had live tracks or as live studio audience and they even [TS]

  want to live studio audience you know that they were the elaborate pretty loud [TS]

  sometimes it always seemed incongruous because it clearly was not shot in front [TS]

  of a live studio audience of his shot on real you know the soundstage yeah you [TS]

  know like you know in that his magical shooting outdoors there's not people I'm [TS]

  preachers there right and the production values were always such a mean clearly [TS]

  in hindsight I mean everybody knew was a smash hit [TS]

  eventually became a smash hit you know a couple of seasons and it was you know [TS]

  like it was always a good I think it was always like number one or number two [TS]

  with sixty minutes you know it's always like a fight which was going to be the [TS]

  top-rated show the weekend [TS]

  minutes I was a juggernaut member that was just like almost always it was it [TS]

  was sixty minutes or something else for a little while I was always number one [TS]

  or number two it felt like your civic obligation is an American with some [TS]

  Sunday night at 7 yeah everybody who you know from seven to seventy would sit [TS]

  down and watch 60 minutes [TS]

  yeah it's funny that match is nasty I don't mean it to be but it's funny the [TS]

  three of the stars of that show left because they wanted a better deal or [TS]

  they wanted more attention you know Wayne Rogers as trapper McLean Stevenson [TS]

  you know he was done with it and later on Larry Linville I decided he was done [TS]

  at the Frank Burns character and you know I never found anything approaching [TS]

  that again it's such a bummer replace Frank Burns Winchester right yeah he was [TS]

  and he was there was tough the tough long as we can tell when chester was [TS]

  actually a good surged yes we knew frank with you know there is a good show it is [TS]

  interesting it's interesting in so many ways it was a good movie that started it [TS]

  and then they didn't have any of the character you know any of the same [TS]

  actors from the movie coming out here Berghoff was hurt in the movie [TS]

  radar radar and the first season is much closer in the kind of anarchic spirit [TS]

  the first two to the film but you know like anything though I think they kind [TS]

  of the started this great thing was a great episode [TS]

  rights to his dad called dear dad I remember that one time but it's really [TS]

  good from like I know for second season and but then they did like they had like [TS]

  deer peg and then they had dear father Mulcahy writing eventually Allan Arbus [TS]

  member the psychiatrist he's writing to Sigmund Freud at some point like click [TS]

  open letter got really bananas but it's a good show I mean it was it was really [TS]

  up its time but by the end it was just was so insufferable even a flaming [TS]

  liberal [TS]

  I can watch that show it's such a pantomime you know politics haven't seen [TS]

  it I remember petering out toward the end and I remember the last episode was [TS]

  the chicken just committed there something that echoes the chicken [TS]

  chicken I don't know I was always obsessiveness another lifelong obsession [TS]

  obsession for me Mike Minor one is final episodes of shows I watch the last [TS]

  episode of a show that I've never even launched just to see how you know I like [TS]

  the last episode yeah and I watched measure you know I watched it i watch [TS]

  the reruns you know a staple in our household bike flipping through the [TS]

  stations waiting for dinner to be ready everybody could agree with watch mash [TS]

  and the reruns her like 530 or something like that so as you know and the rerun [TS]

  to restore on while the show is still wrapping up and absolutely yeah and I [TS]

  think their last episode for a long time was the highest rated like nine Super [TS]

  Bowl type yeah definitely what it was like a national and everybody what the [TS]

  hell is that how does it play now [TS]

  like watching any of those episodes with Jamie Farr's character what was his name [TS]

  clear how could I forget that so clear for anybody who isn't familiar cleaner [TS]

  was played by Jamie Farr and he did not want to serve in the army this was [TS]

  drafted it was drafted with these kids and he knew that there was something [TS]

  that you could get if you are mentally unsound to serve in the army [TS]

  you can get a section eight or something section 84 section eight so how do you [TS]

  convince the army that you're crazy you just like carmen miranda is closed right [TS]

  so he wore women's women's clothing all the time and you know didn't work [TS]

  everybody was a stick was but he never let up on it so he still has a job [TS]

  that's a threat he showed up dressing interested in using pretty good nurse [TS]

  that's part of the problem you should undermine the basic ask what you're [TS]

  doing [TS]

  or do the minute such as bananas way that it's clear that you're crazy you [TS]

  know I'm saying you know it's it's ok I think the earlier seasons are far better [TS]

  TV shows it always takes a few episodes or a seasoned to find their legs and [TS]

  then you know things tend to go for a while I make an image of any kind [TS]

  yeah but it's you know like like like like this very day last night was a [TS]

  record yesterday was the day Jon Stewart announced that he was going to step down [TS]

  from the Daily Show and then it's like he said something during the show did [TS]

  you watch out watching it was like now when you say I think he said he's been [TS]

  doing it for seventeen years did I was watching me and I was like I can't be [TS]

  and I was like an hour and then on my golf course he's going to step down [TS]

  show four days a week Thurs and i know i mean talking to you in particular [TS]

  hodgman and Rob Corddry about it people I know who been on that show and work [TS]

  with him all say the same thing which is that the first is very nice guy and you [TS]

  know he's a good guy but also that he is one of the parties is the hardest [TS]

  working person in the building so when hodgman go on there he would have a kind [TS]

  of a prepared bit and then I mean you know he's not to use the showrunner but [TS]

  he he was involved in every right up until like he was making everybody in [TS]

  the room [TS]

  better on every episode imagine doing that for over 15 years that would take [TS]

  out of you and I think that I am ordering groceries and in this case [TS]

  doing everything I think it's very clear too that he you know [TS]

  and it didn't sports ball turns his he was a good passer basketball like he was [TS]

  not concerned obviously he's the host of the show he's you know the one who does [TS]

  the whole first half single-handedly an on-air Lee's obviously with the [TS]

  operators but as soon as anybody else is on whether it's a bit at the desk like [TS]

  hodgman thing or anything else it he is so a hundred percent concentrated on [TS]

  making that other person look as good as they possibly can and make sure that [TS]

  they get as many of the laughs as they possibly can I totally agree and I mean [TS]

  we conduct our hero like the paragon of that I mean Carson was so good [TS]

  ever that was that was reynolds over whether that was some grandmother that [TS]

  had done something crazy he was so generous I mean I think even if he [TS]

  wasn't loving quarter would be the one who can step in ago where to go to [TS]

  commercial but sometimes you know given a hand signal but he was i mean he was [TS]

  there and fully committed to whatever was happening and wanted to make that [TS]

  person everybody yeah exactly so I I was surprised I have to say like just to [TS]

  commit to the whole a tight shuffling I was a little surprised when Letterman [TS]

  announced his retirement that Jon Stewart didn't get that maybe he didn't [TS]

  want it you know if he was thinking about stepping down from this you know [TS]

  and a daily basis maybe I didn't want you know he didn't want to do it I was [TS]

  not the Jon Stewart would be an excellent you know like letterman show [TS]

  host yeah yeah yeah I agree and you know it's funny to think about like what the [TS]

  world was likely Letterman started and it will be impossible to explain to [TS]

  somebody today probably in the same way that Steve Allen [TS]

  us the ability to get old guy but Steve Allen show broke the mold I mean there's [TS]

  never been anybody on TV quite like Steve Allen who was so kind of you know [TS]

  cultural and and witty and smart but also so with you such crazy stunts and [TS]

  that had a huge influence on [TS]

  and then later comes along and you know they had that crazy deal with Carson [TS]

  this right like there is they had a very they had a guy from Carson's production [TS]

  team there who basically made sure that the rules are you can't book anybody [TS]

  who's a Chinese regulars you know johnny is the first bite of any of these [TS]

  particular Apple's there's all kinds of rules but that was constraint that he [TS]

  worked on larry bud melman or he brought in Chris Elliott and that made the show [TS]

  so much more fun and so much weirder than if that awkward young David [TS]

  Letterman was trying to interview you know I think most famously there were [TS]

  restrictions on the length of the monologue and all because that's the [TS]

  only thing yeah I was Johnny's thing and so on the old Letterman Show Letterman [TS]

  would come out and do three jokes and they were so perfunctory like the tube [TS]

  it was almost like his complete disdain for the model he would just come out and [TS]

  do three really clipped perfunctory jokes and then it was on to the desk and [TS]

  the rest of the part that made it part that made a funny every night was how [TS]

  terrible he made it seem like he thought it was like that was a terrible joke [TS]

  adjusting his tie and that's what made it funny right so they took the [TS]

  restrictions from Carson productions on the monologue and and I think eventually [TS]

  like I think once it's settled in and it was very clear I don't think it took [TS]

  long for Carson and his people to realize that Letterman was no threat to [TS]

  Carson like there was no way that Letterman was ever going to steal his [TS]

  job right right like he's just not that type of person and he was fine you know [TS]

  I think famously he wanted it and when it went up when the time came in when [TS]

  johnnie retired but he was never going to backstab if his ratings head you know [TS]

  if I could never seen anything like completely grateful he tells the story [TS]

  and I guess the first time he was on a cold over to the couch like he he [TS]

  honestly he still sounds like a kid like a moving moment that was for him to get [TS]

  to do that so i think that eventually I don't think it took long where if if he [TS]

  had wanted to do longer monologues I don't really think that the problem is [TS]

  gonna ring in the course of people were gonna say [TS]

  you know you were supposed to two-minute monologue and you did to 30 last night [TS]

  but I think that they just embrace the that anti monologue you know that there [TS]

  just became part of the signatures show we had beaten to death but I think about [TS]

  the stuff that I remember when I would hear somebody was going to be on I would [TS]

  get so excited and certainly there's famous scenes where they drew Barrymore [TS]

  acting all crazy or Crispin Glover was all those are famous but what you really [TS]

  remember from the first three years I mean you you remember people like Harvey [TS]

  Pekar you remember people like charles grodin I remember you remember people [TS]

  being on there who like out Jeff I love just like he would be seen [TS]

  twenty-pound but steak you know and that's what made the show and then like [TS]

  the Prince of fluids and all that stuff that was the product of that privation [TS]

  is what made the show good lasted as long as it had been just another show ep [TS]

  car hadn't thought about him and maybe twenty years so it was a bit like it was [TS]

  on Carson or lettering you got that it was kind of a bit but are genuinely seem [TS]

  to hate and hate the idea of being on the ship right and was just a miserable [TS]

  person quite frankly it was not very attractive either so it wasn't really [TS]

  like people like looking at him and so I think any normal talk show and be like I [TS]

  don't know who booked him but they're fired and make sure we never have it [TS]

  back again whereas the letterman people like let's have this guy back on every [TS]

  couple out absolutely and was therefore I mean I think Jeff Altman is you know [TS]

  one of his great repeat guests I mean he would he loved having jeff hoffman on [TS]

  partly cuz I think you know I have to tell you if you don't already know this [TS]

  I'm craving some of this from a podcast if you heard the podcast the Carson [TS]

  podcast know you should know about this is a show this guy in LA does this can [TS]

  be in LA it's called the course and podcast podcast is him interviewing [TS]

  people who have some kind of an interesting relationship with the carson [TS]

  show show [TS]

  was great so people like Jeff Altman people like you know by Stein you know [TS]

  Super Dave just all kinds of people and then and then like George Carlin's [TS]

  daughter was on but it's it's a great insight into what you and I know which [TS]

  is like what an inscrutable person he was everybody says the same thing it was [TS]

  great was the greatest on you ever have but nobody is a two or three people who [TS]

  ever felt the illegitimate we knew johnny carson yeah you read the [TS]

  biography that is that we talked about that at one time we talked about that [TS]

  PBS show that was great the PBS masters that was terrific [TS]

  that was the best again and they didn't really tried to get to the person you [TS]

  know i mean they acknowledged it and they talked to so many so many people it [TS]

  was such a great thing to PBS master think it was just kind of like like [TS]

  Citizen Kane where everybody like new you know had the same regard for this [TS]

  purpose but never really felt like they knew what made him tick you know so you [TS]

  know how much of that podcast it's it's pretty good [TS]

  the book something I mean look it up here [TS]

  biography Henry sounds like he you know he dropped the show hehe ok there we go [TS]

  and he would never talk before the show they would be just a little bit right [TS]

  now just nobody would not talk to the guess he would get the car in driveway [TS]

  was it henry pushkin book is uncomfortable to me because clearly it's [TS]

  a betrayal of trust like there's no way he should be telling story is it is [TS]

  unauthorized oh yeah I mean how could it be authorizing course instead but I mean [TS]

  I don't think his family would and I think if you would ask johnnie while he [TS]

  was alive would you like henry bushkin to you know right above us [TS]

  certainly not right but on the other hand he did write it so you know but I [TS]

  kind of felt I did I felt lonely time but there's some crazy stories in there [TS]

  there's one story where it was [TS]

  wife or it was just a girlfriend I think it might have been his wife and he [TS]

  johnnie thought is one of his earlier wives this is when the show is still in [TS]

  New York and he lived in New York he figured out his wife was running around [TS]

  on him and he wanted to break into the apartment it was her apartment he was [TS]

  paying for it she said itself it's got to be leon paying for it so it illegal [TS]

  for breaking in and he got henry bush's took his lawyer with them and like two [TS]

  guys who could only really be described as stuff's blogs and like this and says [TS]

  in the book that the one guy even had a gun tucked in his belt and they go over [TS]

  there and like break into the place in trying to find evidence that she was [TS]

  running around on him but you know it's like stories again you don't pay your [TS]

  lawyer to write a book about that's why he take a look at his lawyer that wrote [TS]

  the book that's that's the cricket man you know it's a good read it's a good [TS]

  quick read but its requesting for the library right now this is a guy you know [TS]

  we needed some money I think [TS]

  sure but it was you know but he but I guess the thing i woulda made me think [TS]

  about it is that he was obviously was more than just his lawyer that he became [TS]

  as close friend is anybody could to him they played tennis together they were [TS]

  both tennis not and they used to travel to I remember the Johnny did this summer [TS]

  break to watch tennis on TV sometimes but johnnie would always like four years [TS]

  had an annual trip he would go to Wimbledon and henry bushkin and his wife [TS]

  went with them it was like Johnny and his wife and his wife every year for [TS]

  like 15 years they went to England for like two or three weeks so when they [TS]

  were definitely close but even then even being that close that you vacationed [TS]

  with Johnny Carson for a couple of weeks every year at a he's still clearly [TS]

  didn't really know and I think Pat McCormick the comment publicly mchugh I [TS]

  think it worked on the show and was on a lot also was another [TS]

  but even in interviews of the biggest but it's a lot like when you hear people [TS]

  talk about sinatra you know where they're also mister sinatra and like [TS]

  this deference like a come back from the grave and get you act like this dish [TS]

  still a lot of deference to join me in the end desire to keep his legacy [TS]

  you know clean extent possible yeah I must feel i mean you know not having [TS]

  never seen a guy in person but my impression is maybe that like he just [TS]

  had was like a one in a one billion freak where the real Johnny Carson was [TS]

  the one who was on for 60 minutes in front of a camera sitting at a desk like [TS]

  that really was him and that it was the other 23 hours of his life where there [TS]

  was no yeah I mean he's a he's a comic book character right i mean you know [TS]

  where Bruce Wayne is the secret I you know what i mean it's like batman is the [TS]

  real guy in some ways and Brianne yeah exactly right and I feel like jet that [TS]

  might have been Johnny Carson and I feel like you know that's what made him so [TS]

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  then the ones I likely would have to be the virtual fake real-world constraints [TS]

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  are as I get more and more cynical about everything and a little bit more frisky [TS]

  about things like privacy let me just say stuff coming down the lane like [TS]

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  information about the police activity safety I mean anything that you you [TS]

  couldn't care less for any neighborhood etc but in your neighborhood you really [TS]

  care and it's like I went in I saw one time I called the cops about something [TS]

  and I could find that on the website it was really really cool but I think they [TS]

  contracted to be in only a few contracted as in like she can suck down [TS]

  to be just in a few cities now is cropping up my wife got me to get on [TS]

  this one in our neighborhood just it's [TS]

  so it's one of those things where you you sign up and you gotta like give them [TS]

  tons of information they were your phone number they want to send a postcard your [TS]

  house to verify that you are you fine and then they automatically put your [TS]

  address on the website and in every page or on their our call to action and [TS]

  popups telling you to go invite more people it asked you to like you know [TS]

  bring in all of your on the one hand they're real careful when making sure [TS]

  who you are but then it's one of those paths kind of thing where they like how [TS]

  do you uninstall you bring in all your contacts in your Facebook people just [TS]

  like I am increasingly super uncomfortable with that as a business [TS]

  model it's gross as soon as they asked me for it I closed the window I [TS]

  immediately think well that's their business model yeah yeah and I mean [TS]

  there's some kind of things like Google I mean like opening that Google App [TS]

  especially when I'm outta town as a town last week it's the kind of blows my mind [TS]

  how smart Google is I know their Google boat but like they if there's anybody [TS]

  out there who is providing value for the nonsense they do you gotta give credit [TS]

  like his ass if you're traveling to there's the temperature hey here's your [TS]

  flight the just came in via this by email at that kind of stuff you know I [TS]

  wish there were better with the privacy stuff in some ways but that's a real [TS]

  value they've done something very innovative to be able to do that its [TS]

  scale but you can just be on some of these websites we just tell that they're [TS]

  young it's a new company and all about building the user base and then [TS]

  leveraging as much personal information as possible and that's kind of a boring [TS]

  thing to get into but I find that I find that really kind of gross and [TS]

  frustrating enough of my stuff is out there I don't need to go sign up for [TS]

  free services are gonna do that did you see there was an article I forget the [TS]

  guys name couple weeks ago [TS]

  the tradeoff between if you if you give Google everything they want to know [TS]

  about you and buy into their stuff you get a tremendous experience out of it [TS]

  but if you've got an Android phone and you use the whole ecosystem in the [TS]

  absolute right like you know and like you said like and it definitely works I [TS]

  mean I don't buy into this is certainly come a long way right but its cool stuff [TS]

  like if you're using Gmail and you let you know then then you get your flight [TS]

  stuff into your Gmail and then they already know your flight because they [TS]

  already parsed the email from your airline that says you're doing it and [TS]

  then your today view already has like you said how's the weather for San [TS]

  Francisco because that's where I imply I just gotta pop up yesterday it's like [TS]

  this shirt that you ordered for a short order from a kid like it just shipped [TS]

  via FedEx number that's actually pretty useful yeah that's pretty awesome so i [TS]

  mean but it it it's like you said though like I'm a little wary of it but at [TS]

  least with Google [TS]

  exchanges very clear its ok you're gonna give up some of your privacy and they're [TS]

  going to start going to send you targeted ads and that makes me a little [TS]

  uncomfortable but an exchange there's there's a very clear value proposition [TS]

  oh it's you know we know so you know we're gonna give you stuff that you need [TS]

  to know that your weather and reminders of things that you didn't even ask to be [TS]

  reminded of but they would need to and I think that's pretty interesting whereas [TS]

  with a lot of these startups it's like they want the information you know [TS]

  they're going to sell out as I have no idea why would why would I give this to [TS]

  you right right right right yeah absolutely end anyway it's probably get [TS]

  into but you know then you look at something like uber where did you see [TS]

  the thing where [TS]

  they had their lost and found databases like them protected spreadsheet on the [TS]

  people's names and phone numbers and it no I did not like wow that's pretty [TS]

  rough the sharing economy thing is is super interesting to me because I I'm [TS]

  kind of surprised really I'm very surprised the stuff has gotten as far as [TS]

  it has a USB 10 years ago let me live in a neighborhood where it's very difficult [TS]

  to get a cab anytime and I've cursed the cab companies forever because they don't [TS]

  give a fig they don't need to they can just drive you know up and down Polk [TS]

  Street and make all the money in the world drive to the airport there's no [TS]

  mean that's how it works and in a city but I never would have guessed that they [TS]

  would get away with that here you know what i mean it's such a strong kind of [TS]

  Uniontown some ways such a strong town for like people who are protected [TS]

  you know interest like with the medallions and stuff has got as far as [TS]

  it has I am too I didn't know I didn't realize that and I summit wheat and I we [TS]

  could do if there was an article like lift start just started here in Philly [TS]

  and the article about left with about how the whole thing like all the Hoover [TS]

  although prison Philly are illegal they're not supposed to be operating in [TS]

  Philly will have news to me I've been using over in Philly for like two years [TS]

  I had no idea it just seems like one low-level government functionary could [TS]

  walk into that office to show off the lights but like so they can mean black [TS]

  cars are obviously legal but not based on it or not through the air regulated I [TS]

  mean I guess I don't know what it is but there's something like we have to [TS]

  practice now too so we have the you know amateur cabdriver some very interesting [TS]

  people and their whole thing was about how left in a lift Scott the the pink [TS]

  mustaches on the large which makes them so easy to identify so because they're [TS]

  illegal like that but it's not enforced by the police it's enforced by the [TS]

  Parking Authority the long arm of the Parking Authority right but I've read [TS]

  stories I don't have these are true but I've heard anecdotes but people are Lake [TS]

  get in now put your put back in the truck were friends we've known each [TS]

  other since college [TS]

  you know the lived experiences still a little little on the bubble yeah I'm not [TS]

  comfortable with it [TS]

  yeah yeah yeah I'm not either but you know I hear the paper we could go about [TS]

  how I mean I find this totally plausible [TS]

  drivers are making like something like on average ten dollars an hour or more [TS]

  in taxi drivers under diaspora of people leaving his taxi companies to go work [TS]

  for it [TS]

  yeah I have done that and when I first started using the bird was in San [TS]

  Francisco because you know those early days when it was new and I don't know [TS]

  where that and maybe that was the only place where they were operating but I [TS]

  remember thinking wow this sounds weird right [TS]

  the sound weird but I'll try it and a member like first couple of times I got [TS]

  the number I would ask the driver as a city how do you like this deal like this [TS]

  and to have never never was the answer anything other than I love it [TS]

  this is you know this is great oh absolutely [TS]

  and whereas if I get a cab ride that's the story elsewhere but a recent last [TS]

  month I got a cab ride home from a gig and the entire time the guy had his [TS]

  right arm on the seat turning around facing me the entire trip screaming [TS]

  anti-war activists entire ride like three sheets to the wind just trying to [TS]

  put my headphones on and not and he really wasn't talked about over and it's [TS]

  been drawn I tried using that happens you know [TS]

  curb you have that they're now I don't introduce an appt with the san Francisco [TS]

  is the go-to app for ordering a cab in Andover like way I try to three times [TS]

  and waiting 10 minutes I've never even got a response that account but even be [TS]

  available but just because I live out in kind of a crazy part of town so I mean [TS]

  it's it's I don't love you can either in the kind of seemed like dicks I mean [TS]

  there's some pretty crazy decisions going here's what we've got this is our [TS]

  new thing is 215 get a cab ok it's it's clearly like [TS]

  the various cab companies have colluded to get a min included in a legal way but [TS]

  it's time yeah it's it's it's it's in response to its is no doubt about it is [TS]

  in response to get plastered all over all of their at all of their vehicles [TS]

  the thing that's funny to me those who wait to get the app right [TS]

  get the app in the App have the app afford occurs do you need a cab cuz you [TS]

  drunk and in an alley somewhere like what you do is download an app like you [TS]

  need to have it on your phone already in its a new thing but they've come up with [TS]

  the name is phone number like it's still dat gotta go over you know [TS]

  quarter give you a quarter I got a call to get the cash you can just imagine the [TS]

  meeting with the app it's got to be the phone number it's their their their [TS]

  website is 215 get a cab DR number of mine in early 2000 when you know the [TS]

  dot-com had already started the doc coming retail dot com dot com and always [TS]

  clearly like things were a little rocky but there are more more places that we [TS]

  wanted to look like an e-business and I think a lot of a basically just like the [TS]

  CGI reproach scripted sensibly your fax machine going to fill out a form did not [TS]

  have any sense that anything electronic what's happening at all like today where [TS]

  you can I track things and stuff like that I think it used to be pretty rube [TS]

  goldberg to starting to like the idea that I think it was probably was true [TS]

  that a lot of places where you could order online [TS]

  it would generate a fax now if you want a lot of food online does is print [TS]

  something out I mean obviously that's that's the installed base you know it's [TS]

  just something unless the cash register [TS]

  should I buy back scenes well if we talk if we end up I was telling a friend of [TS]

  mine what are nominal topic for today was very excited about and my friend [TS]

  respondents say you were gonna get so much might as well jamming all in one [TS]

  episode yeah vaccines so the thing that got me about vaccines with it being back [TS]

  in the news again is is like it everywhere in outright it solve its [TS]

  percolate up to like the national consciousness and it's on the news every [TS]

  day now and I was like why why all of a sudden this is not a new thing I mean [TS]

  this is a state only a story if there's a controversy right that's the thing I [TS]

  don't just go these people are dumbasses will have to say well there's still a [TS]

  couple scientists haven't definitely decided on this its and I realized it's [TS]

  obvious it's all because actual people got actual measles Disneyland and I [TS]

  didn't really put it i saw this story and I thought well of course there did [TS]

  because there's a bunch of dopes who aren't getting there do so many people [TS]

  getting their kids immunized of course there's an outbreak of I wasn't so I was [TS]

  so on surprised that there was an outbreak of measles at Disneyland that I [TS]

  it seems like a perfect place for there to be a measles outbreak given the [TS]

  conditions I couldn't believe that it was news you know whereas it's clearly [TS]

  is like the eyeopener people God you don't you don't get your kids it seems [TS]

  like that's a big part of the conversation is holy shit if millions of [TS]

  people don't immunize their kids these kids can get measles like that seems to [TS]

  be our national conversation is really frustrating it's yeah I saw an [TS]

  interesting poll on by by age whether you support mandatory immunization and [TS]

  it drops off so precipitously it's like 70 year olds it's like almost universal [TS]

  support sixty year old very high [TS]

  5040 kind of like when you get your forties and thirties its lower and talk [TS]

  to kids in their twenties and it's like they do you know take fifteen percent [TS]

  support mandatory that doesn't mean that they don't think people should do it [TS]

  they're just saying should be managed but I think that the reason that it [TS]

  ain't like reading to your kid that's where it's a good idea but we have to do [TS]

  that have to do that I don't have to give me the reason it's a specific [TS]

  though is so obvious it's because older people remember what it's like when your [TS]

  neighbor had polio right there may be made to the depression and watched a [TS]

  neighbor a one-sided them lose three kids or a sibling even write my [TS]

  grandmother to flew in the I think around world war one right so they've so [TS]

  high and they can always so scientists come out with just a shot that makes [TS]

  your arm sore for a day and then you'll never get polio of course a subordinate [TS]

  yeah I don't know I i'm quite right so hard to grow as a person John I'm trying [TS]

  really hard to to be sympathetic and understand everybody's position but it's [TS]

  what we talked two years ago about the things you told me this poll that [TS]

  something was was a percentage of people who were a thoroughly convinced that [TS]

  Obama is not eligible to be President even late late late in that linda in [TS]

  that rumor it was still a 40% or something ridiculous of people and it's [TS]

  like there's the thing is there is you know there's been reading this book [TS]

  apparently mention every podcast called other was given security by Alan Watts [TS]

  and he makes a distinction that book that really really hit me in faith and [TS]

  belief which I found very persuasive with the idea that you know faith is a [TS]

  thing that we all have our sight unseen things that we there's some part of us [TS]

  to have faith that the discussion or whatever [TS]

  which is really different from belief his belief is kind of a more dangerous [TS]

  thing is belief is where you know there's not really that much to even [TS]

  discuss like I've decided that this is how things are and nothing is gonna talk [TS]

  me out of this because now become part of Who I am now I am a person who [TS]

  believes this about vaccines we're pleased about Obama and you know that [TS]

  can become very internalize you and I probably have things like that not even [TS]

  aware of but that's the dangerous part and there's no about what we do liberals [TS]

  to understand is there's no way they're never going to be enough info graphics [TS]

  and diagrams [TS]

  horrifying maps to convince people of anything different [TS]

  Jesus Christ we had george W bush in the White House three years people believe [TS]

  anything but one of the things that's interesting about the whole immunization [TS]

  things race and for anybody who do have enough listeners I'm sure that there's [TS]

  got to be some of you who just two computers [TS]

  stick to computers have children chosen not to immunize I didn't one of the [TS]

  things that's all I want to be a big person I want to be as I don't be [TS]

  insulted but I didn't have his fasting about it is that it it has no [TS]

  traditional political divide its not a liberal thing or a Republican thing or a [TS]

  conservative thing or a rural thing it's like all over the map it's you know it [TS]

  when a poll I saw one poll that was exactly 50 50 were like they talked to [TS]

  her know however full sample size number of parents who chose not to immunize [TS]

  their children and who did you vote for in the last election and it was like 50 [TS]

  50 split really do you think the reasons why they differ for different with agree [TS]

  on the reason why they decide not to do that I you know I don't know but I [TS]

  remember one of the big reasons that it really caught on was I remember reading [TS]

  the article it was Robert F Kennedy junior wrote like a feature magazine [TS]

  linked article on earth is for the Atlantic or one of those magazines like [TS]

  that you know back when there was that one ingredient in the you know that they [TS]

  were thought to be worried about that [TS]

  Jonas was around that date and it was at the height of it [TS]

  it was I think when Jonas was just turned eleven so I think when Jonas was [TS]

  getting this his first year [TS]

  immunizations was before I think it was before that one paper in Britain had [TS]

  been developed over the last set right I think it was before so it was definitely [TS]

  you know it was a thing and I know we were little you know why I didn't really [TS]

  put dreams into a but you know I was it was I just remember it being a thing we [TS]

  talked about we we ask we ask a lot of questions for sure and they were very [TS]

  sober about it in action on the patient like you have to be with a new parent [TS]

  does he know we pretty much knew words can have the one kids like we don't get [TS]

  a lot of shots at this to speak and we it was important to us to know that kind [TS]

  of stuff I don't feel dumb for asking those questions because they were very [TS]

  they were the doctor was very straightforward about it's the same [TS]

  thing that people understand which is like there's risks to everything in life [TS]

  but we can tell you is the risks associated with vaccinations are nothing [TS]

  compared with D very demonstrable risk of not yet as an individual I think [TS]

  there is a risk analysis cost benefit it's it's it's not even a right and then [TS]

  I you know especially when it comes to your kid I think it's it's almost human [TS]

  instinct at least in our modern world where we're we're very as parents were [TS]

  very selfish about our children that we want will do anything for orkut and you [TS]

  know it if you could prove that your kid might be better off without as an [TS]

  individual would be better off without him in this nation's versus the whole [TS]

  civic responsibility the herd herd advantage of getting everybody immunized [TS]

  I can see it and I think that's the basic thinking that's going on behind [TS]

  the people who chose not to immunize their children that their they value you [TS]

  know that they believe some kind of bad things can happen [TS]

  from the right and regardless of what it means for the sticky idea that's a very [TS]

  durable idea whether or not it's true or accurate I can certainly understand why [TS]

  it's something that that I mean I don't agree with it but I get why that's [TS]

  something that people feel is a big risk you know but think about this i mean [TS]

  this is something I think we all have a feeling I have a lot in common with [TS]

  other people which is in I've grown so I'm skeptical so cynical about all the [TS]

  turns out announcements about what's dangerous and you know there's been [TS]

  numerous you know articles over the years talking about the crazy history of [TS]

  stuff like the the food pyramid read the USDA Food Pyramid [TS]

  the food pyramid like in the seventies make sure you have tons and tons of [TS]

  bread and you know what I mean [TS]

  and it was very much apparently very much formed by these different [TS]

  industries not to be like another something but your body was never meant [TS]

  to handle this much corn my god that was supposed to jam this much corn into [TS]

  their whole it's nuts and they want a pacific Golf at the enemy ok so quit [TS]

  eating eggs alright so let's have snack wells sorry we sit around and eat [TS]

  fat-free brownies with three cups of sugar in it oh wait a minute now it [TS]

  turns out sugar is actually any and so forth [TS]

  look no further back than last decade look at sucking water bottles did you [TS]

  follow this at all what used to be [TS]

  you're like oh you're killing the environment with all these cups so for [TS]

  god sakes go out and buy a Nalgene bottle and you had to have another [TS]

  bottle bottle this stupid plastic bottles oh no guess what turns out that [TS]

  waits oh my gosh you're going to die because you doing the right thing by [TS]

  this kind of an apple saying maybe those aluminum ones to be used to replace [TS]

  ineligible is about you know when the trouble is it doesn't it kind of doesn't [TS]

  matter what is actually true accurate accurate or known what matters is we are [TS]

  scared to herself and her kids and we're always gonna try and how the most recent [TS]

  information that we can find out what we should do about it [TS]

  plastic in the microwave anymore like what you put in the microwave thing out [TS]

  of my makeup cold to warm something up on that fucking monster [TS]

  I remember coaching Little League couple years ago I i do I am familiar with the [TS]

  whole water bottle and I had something to do with Ali's [TS]

  I know baby boomer baby bottles and phthalates I it's like a made me feel [TS]

  like time traveling dad from the nineteen fifties you know I'm just [TS]

  trying to make sure none of these kids get hit in the mouth with a baseball [TS]

  right number one I don't want anybody getting hit in the head with a baseball [TS]

  it's a constant fear you've got twelve kids and at some point at least two of [TS]

  the 12 invariably are not paying attention to the game and therefore at [TS]

  risk of getting hit in the head with a baseball which is bad so it's you know [TS]

  everything we can all agree on that every game is two hours of non-stop 95% [TS]

  of my attention is don't let any of these kids get hit by a baseball than 5% [TS]

  of my attention is lets you know trying to score some runs and get some outs and [TS]

  maybe win the game and in the meantime there's this whole thing with the other [TS]

  all the other I'm not just moms moms and dads and are all talking about the [TS]

  bottle that bottles [TS]

  everybody's an expert and I'm just like just give the kids they have water i [TS]

  dont know when I was a kid we just we just had to finish each game with like [TS]

  50 of those little [TS]

  sure the people in the water cups conical paper cup on the field [TS]

  totally totally and I mean you know it is funny given like how you and I [TS]

  already come from kind of a paper generation in so many ways we're [TS]

  probably the last generation that has a chance of doing better than I but for a [TS]

  while anyway but you know I mention this alot but like some of my I'm not okay [TS]

  guys I'm not advocating for this but I have such a really think about this one [TS]

  time just having this memory of our old green Pontiac my dad made a driving [TS]

  around smoking but with the windows down and he's like standing on the seat like [TS]

  to stick your head out the window you just gotta be kidding me to even have [TS]

  seat belts [TS]

  you know and now today doesn't do anything without a helmet and that's [TS]

  that's on me and I want to protect her head [TS]

  said that it is it is pretty in it is pretty wild how many people managed to [TS]

  survive that now at the same time trying to explain to the best of my ability [TS]

  how would the world population isn't how it works for us and make it like ok with [TS]

  things like what [TS]

  117 people so that they can you guess whether keeps going up and answer well [TS]

  you know one of them is when I mean that is get together what happens to babies [TS]

  and babies grow up in a bit what happens they have like three kids and kids think [TS]

  it is like to our credit I think people die of less completely preventable [TS]

  random shit then when I was a kid I I got to stipulate thank God for seatbelts [TS]

  they've made the roads safer the cars are safer it all saver everybody knew [TS]

  somebody that it died in a car accident when I was a kid is just the thing it [TS]

  was cancer and car accidents killed and lung disease like killed everybody and [TS]

  they're all at least partially preventable [TS]

  huge toy huge swath of car accidents are preventable blindness about there's the [TS]

  whole if you seen the footage you had to add that the difference in the crumple [TS]

  zones of an old car new car it's it's almost farcical yeah no man's driver's [TS]

  movies I still think about it I've never unbuckled a dead man my mom my mom [TS]

  Pontiac dealership he took it to a mechanic and said look we bought this [TS]

  $1,000 car and it beeps when we sit in and if we don't put on the seat belts [TS]

  can turn that off he said yes I just leave it to you leave it like that and [TS]

  all the time my sister and I were not allowed to use the sheep because we [TS]

  would mess them up [TS]

  as you know you like they wouldn't retract right anymore you know you [TS]

  getting around pretty basic the way that it would retract you can I get off the [TS]

  runner like off the spool and it wouldn't go back and write some point [TS]

  one of us had gotten one of the ones in the backseat twisted in the you know the [TS]

  the actual belt was twisted in the what would you call a little cartridge kind [TS]

  of the cartridge that would slide to make you mean they were really primitive [TS]

  they didn't snap into place very well it was very easy when feeding it back it [TS]

  would be like a like a roller blind getting slightly off track at the [TS]

  beginning way off track but at a lot do anything that similar to it anymore [TS]

  our airplane seatbelts but it was a lot but the buckling connection was a lot [TS]

  more primitive had the way that you could slide on the belt but we got it [TS]

  twisted up and it took a long time to fix it and so from then on we weren't [TS]

  allowed to use it took her 15 minutes to get him untangled so then that was it [TS]

  felt what do you what do you think's gonna happen with the vaccine stuff do [TS]

  you think it'll take a generation or a detective and generation or does it take [TS]

  a measles 911 like what what do you think will change and how in the next [TS]

  however many years I've been thinking about I don't think there's any way to [TS]

  go back on it and you know it [TS]

  part of it is what we were saying couple minutes ago where you can't you come out [TS]

  like they've done studies said that you got them with the most factual [TS]

  statistical approach out of this relative safety of immunizations and the [TS]

  fact that you know the heart how horrible it is you know measles can can [TS]

  make you blind killed people they said I just 446 people a day die from measles [TS]

  around the plant something like that around the world and given these facts [TS]

  and the people who don't want to maximize their kids get the facts and [TS]

  they come out of it more than I did hear that you're faster slippery things and I [TS]

  mean if somebody that you didn't trust let's be honest to somebody you didn't [TS]

  trust that you considered to be a mouthpiece for an organization some kind [TS]

  of like like the Laramie cigarettes guys on The Simpsons [TS]

  if somebody came to you with some information you knew that they were [TS]

  compromised even they gave you a day presenters facts you wouldn't listen to [TS]

  them or you probably wouldn't go look at the primary research right you know I'm [TS]

  the same way I know what I believe I know what I think is BS it's just that [TS]

  it's talk about it every time that link-up book don't think of an elephant [TS]

  if you have you have a certain mental model for how reality works and what [TS]

  relationships are and how you determine what's real and that over riser [TS]

  supersedes new information like bank to right I mean I mean the way that you [TS]

  conduct yourself in the world for me n 30 some years whatever is likely have [TS]

  such I totally buy that you know and what your family believes and what the [TS]

  people around you believe church believe it's constantly being reinforced because [TS]

  that's part of your tribe that's what your tribe believes and there's no [TS]

  reason not to I mean we've all got trouble things like the stupid the [TS]

  Dallas Cowboys you got problems your own that's part of the problem though is [TS]

  that there is there is a sort of tribal behavior where the kids who are not [TS]

  immunized tend to be clustered because it spreads and you become friends like [TS]

  super buddy buddy with any other parents at school but you talk to them and you [TS]

  know like it becomes a good thing we're like now I forget what it the [TS]

  percentages in Marin County but it's just ridiculous [TS]

  got a lot of weird outliers were in also has used to have far as I know that [TS]

  improbably high rate of breast cancer and I met in his ways to come up with [TS]

  with why that is that don't involve you know high power lines or something it [TS]

  could be that they're getting detection better or something I don't know but the [TS]

  camera thing I remember Scott Simpson said something made me laugh along time [TS]

  ago when he had a kid and I didn't at the time have a kid he had backpack in [TS]

  the hard days he says something like this to kind is like two kinds of [TS]

  parents like there's the helicopter parents that there are more protective [TS]

  than me and I hate them and then there's the parent certainly careless with their [TS]

  kids and I hate them to like the way you evaluate everything is based on what you [TS]

  think everybody else is permissive [TS]

  or district asshole their kids an assholee [TS]

  guys choose and then there's the kiddies you know recognize that these parents [TS]

  there may be executed two minutes he's come on get it it's a jungle gym let the [TS]

  kids play oh my god I can't believe you let him get on the jet which are even do [TS]

  with what we want to talk about later Lee with movies like I cannot believe [TS]

  they let their kids watch that or I can't believe that they don't want to [TS]

  let him watch Harry Potter you know oh this is this is what makes it a text [TS]

  about this morning and we're not getting into it just now that you know the way [TS]

  to phrase this my daughter will come back to this list like it's it's not [TS]

  just a matter of like you know me I like I like facet I like this problem [TS]

  enticing I like to sing it seems obvious and figuring out how to actually a mess [TS]

  and so like with kids in media it's not just like what you show your kids it's [TS]

  like it's like well what kind of stuff do you show your particular kid at what [TS]

  point in their life in what context etcetera etcetera etcetera [TS]

  because we all know every kids really different I mean anybody with two kids [TS]

  to 10 people who say Google this kind of company Apple's this kind of company if [TS]

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  harry's user now to be honest but when I going there to get like a fit some [TS]

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  URL it just went nowhere and then the week before was the one where they had [TS]

  the ASCII art of a guy flipping table that said Amazon upside down but with [TS]

  those crazy Unicode characters they're happy holidays right which only made [TS]

  sense which is cool because it only made sense if you knew the backstory [TS]

  relationship they had that they had started woot the same guys who did woot [TS]

  and they sold them as I read that story I think I think I did it it sounds like [TS]

  it was not ideal yeah I was like Amazon bought them and they didn't do well they [TS]

  weren't happy it into my game is on cared and the founder had breakfast with [TS]

  Jeff Bezos pesos and you know what's going on and on about whatever he's like [TS]

  look can I ask you a question is why did you buy and it was like he just stared [TS]

  at his breakfast and there was like this 1 weird thing on his breakfast platter [TS]

  some weird vegetable he was like your thing was like this this piece of weird [TS]

  let us I didn't understand so I wanted to buy it I think get it so i just want [TS]

  to buy a psycho [TS]

  seems like he tires he seems he said the whole story of the Amazon the fire phone [TS]

  it's just nuts [TS]

  yeah that was some great reporting Africa talked about this on the show [TS]

  just wandering probable but Austin Carr wrote that for Fast Company and really [TS]

  really top notch like if you want to be alone the lack of actual reporting that [TS]

  goes on today went to great counter example cuz he really did the legwork [TS]

  clearly got people who worked on that phone to talk and pieces but sounds like [TS]

  busy bees owes his passion project he drove in with both feet and I think [TS]

  micro-managed but he like he had would not he would not go off his decisions at [TS]

  any point right like he lose very decisive about exactly how this is gonna [TS]

  work it wasn't yeah yeah I think long story short what how did the fire phone [TS]

  come to be a long story short based on Austin cars reporting it was something [TS]

  to the effect of we should do a phone if we do a phone should it should either be [TS]

  really cheap or it should be if it's not really cheap then it has to compete with [TS]

  the iPhone 3G it's gotta do 3d right that was like so then the next up basis [TS]

  as I will I want to compete with the iPhone and cause I think he wanted to [TS]

  make a funny he would actually use right so like what's the point of like them [TS]

  making a cheap phone if they themselves are also going to use iPhones they [TS]

  wanted to go higher and then the next step in the logical chain as well then [TS]

  we have to have a hawk right there has to be something if we're gonna sell a [TS]

  phone that's like for 500 bucks there has to be something that is compelling [TS]

  about it and Bezos latched onto this 3d thing you know everybody knows the basic [TS]

  3d interface that using accelerometers and four cameras on the front you know [TS]

  that it can it without any special glasses and make a fake 3d effect on the [TS]

  flat surface of the phone [TS]

  and there was like no budging him off the dads you know that's like our Siri [TS]

  that's our hook that we can advertise everybody's going on up for it and there [TS]

  was apparently a lot of internal skepticism that this would have any [TS]

  actual appeal [TS]

  well what's the point it's a neat just a lot of the people seem to think well it [TS]

  is a neat trick but what is the point and then the phone shipped and everybody [TS]

  said well it's a neat trick but what's the point but he stuck with it right [TS]

  really proud of a lot of cardboard boxes ahead said from the wildfire phone that [TS]

  was so is the first time I got an Amazon box it that that on the tape what [TS]

  somebody set them on fire phone I thought the same thing I thought the [TS]

  same things every you know and I thought it was believable for me because [TS]

  nobody's ever sent me a phone like no company but like I do get some equipment [TS]

  to try [TS]

  program back in the day now I was in some have gotten I got the G one from [TS]

  Google HTC was nice enough to send me that I remember that that was fun and I [TS]

  was in this thing or spring just they're sending bloggers like new phones every [TS]

  few months like in the days before Americans there was around the time of [TS]

  the iPhone and I finally got this totally crazy looking one where it had [TS]

  screens on both sides and was kind of meant to look like an iPhone but you do [TS]

  stuff you need to flip the phone around and use different keyboards and a touch [TS]

  screen is totally crazy but it's not outlandish that somebody would send me [TS]

  if I find that's what I thought it was it was a box it was a box it was about [TS]

  the size that a phone my coming out as I cannot believe somebody sent me her [TS]

  phone and opened it up it was Saturday toothpaste [TS]

  all right to do it well and then we'll do it is the other way but I want to go [TS]

  to circle back on the vaccination well not taxation to particular but to me [TS]

  it's it's a product of the Internet age this is why I'ma little pessimistic [TS]

  about it getting fixed because I think pre-internet you just wasn't enough [TS]

  information for people to do that [TS]

  like you know your best source of information on the health of your kid [TS]

  was what your pediatrician pediatrician said we recommend these immunizations on [TS]

  the schedule for all you know your way and then maybe you may rely on your [TS]

  family too right [TS]

  yeah like that and you hear about brand loyalty and how people who are pampers [TS]

  you know the mom used camper said they use papers and we're Heinz ketchup [TS]

  family and so forth again I think a lot of people especially young and [TS]

  impressionable age having a kid take a lot of that from the family was here are [TS]

  you kidding me you know you know and and Linda died because she wasn't vaccinated [TS]

  question about your kids and it's you know that now though you know I'm not [TS]

  that I'm not trying to say the pre-internet that nobody questioned [TS]

  their doctor of course I mean [TS]

  second opinion is part of our vernacular you know of course people might question [TS]

  the doctor especially if you know the recommendations [TS]

  surgery or something like that but now it's so easy for people to just find [TS]

  what they want to find where she couldn't do that before and there's that [TS]

  stencil its spray-painted stenciled all you know you can't go without saying it [TS]

  bc it everywhere this the same stop making stupid people famous right which [TS]

  is trying but it's true it is absolutely the problem of the modern age that we've [TS]

  made a lot of stupid people very famous and not so filled WebMD [TS]

  I don't think any of us can say we've never looked at WebMD we're pretty sure [TS]

  we have cancer like you know there is also the Internet has empowered us to [TS]

  believe that we we can learn a lot I guess is kind of what you're already [TS]

  saying but you know now we feel it is resource in the same way that we may not [TS]

  go spend several weeks at the library [TS]

  you know looking at carcinoma now today like will keep funds keep looking until [TS]

  we find the thing that makes sense to us [TS]

  yeah and you know again the worst thing you can possibly do when you have some [TS]

  kind of health problems google it and it's of course the first thing that we [TS]

  all do you can't help but do it but it's the worst thing you can do it because [TS]

  it's just gonna it now you have whatever your problem is and that you've got [TS]

  terrible anxiety about it because you've proven that you have to know something [TS]

  in curable if you've got into a doctor's office with the printout no I have not I [TS]

  do not like that no 5 not saying I wouldn't though I'm not saying I [TS]

  wouldn't understand how da me doing a lot of research I could see her being a [TS]

  very well informed you know with kid stuff very well-informed parent on that [TS]

  stuff yeah I think she's very serious I performed you know I you know right now [TS]

  she's gotta get up in like you know she's like Marsh Marshall dealing with [TS]

  that thing she does she really does know an awful lot about what I'm again I [TS]

  don't think she'd be the first time that she does not know more than are [TS]

  dumbasses allergist does but she certainly knows how she is too but I do [TS]

  think that that I don't know I feel like that's a big part of the problem of the [TS]

  modern age is that you gonna be you know there's a there's a it easy for anybody [TS]

  to have a soapbox and get more than just the people who can you know the old days [TS]

  if you're a lunatic only the people within earshot could hear you now and [TS]

  yeah it's funny there's all these little setting aside the dark web in the dark [TS]

  matter whatever is this one funny sort of sorts of information has been around [TS]

  for a long time but still remains largely hidden from plain sight which is [TS]

  forums or for us I guess yeah there are so many places with you google for [TS]

  certain kinds of information all kinds of certain kinds of information you are [TS]

  very likely to end and I just somebody suggested for example yesterday I was [TS]

  talking yesterday I'm back to work talk about how I try not to drink too much [TS]

  coffee you know I don't want to be spazzy in somebody had recommended [TS]

  tell the enemy or something like that which is like a green tea extract or [TS]

  something and so I went in and I googled it and like so many results on forums [TS]

  where people are like saying the most outlandish things but like I kept [TS]

  reading it I I immediately felt like you know I gotta take it with a grain of [TS]

  salt but I still kept reading looking for somebody who sounded like they know [TS]

  what they're talking about and I have no way of knowing if anybody knows what to [TS]

  talk about but it's a common thing you thought I find it is I'm getting older [TS]

  and I find that I'm getting a lot more sensitive to things like having drank [TS]

  too much coffee and I don't think I don't think it's like I think it's [TS]

  actually more like a self-awareness though then like not that I used to be [TS]

  able to metabolize more it's that I would drink too much coffee and wouldn't [TS]

  even notice [TS]

  whereas now I'm like wow my brain is bananas right now I A I talked about [TS]

  this a lot on the show and I i mean I have to be very circumspect about [TS]

  something like that sounds unbelievable to me know which is that I have to be [TS]

  very careful about how much caffeine or stimulants in general I put my body [TS]

  after about 12 or one because they say the half way for like that your body [TS]

  like eight hours and that's not true for me I just be late if I copy it to be [TS]

  laying there in bed with my heart beating and so and also the other places [TS]

  as I feel good don't always get the same positive effects that I used to get it [TS]

  but I definitely still get all the negative effects me where I don't use to [TS]

  be like I am young and virile and I can have Thai food and coffee at 11 at night [TS]

  and now today like I did this just a terrible idea for me so yeah sensitivity [TS]

  for real [TS]

  yeah there's lots of stuff like that boots to make the same amount of coffee [TS]

  every day and I think it's the right dose for me but then like I you side [TS]

  only do any more like sometimes I just get bored at four in the afternoon [TS]

  think we'll have another you know my whole life that's exactly what I would [TS]

  do see eat at three o'clock and I'm like coffee I'll go make one make one cup [TS]

  with their oppress and then you know taste a little better and and then I'm [TS]

  you know I'd like 6 p.m. Mike wait I've been trying to read this [TS]

  800 word article and instead I've got twenty other types I won't really wanted [TS]

  to read this article what happened to that this morning at my god that's [TS]

  freaking comfrey I should not have had that extra coffee this morning ahead and [TS]

  two cups of coffee and i sat down to read the entire Wikipedia page on the [TS]

  history of the MPAA rating system which is the same that hard it is pretty [TS]

  standard English I got like I got like two headings in and was like let's ride [TS]

  bikes I can't even concentrate I'm slightly perhaps but alright let me do [TS]

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  here's the idea what you want to do you you because it was actually your idea at [TS]

  first no yeah well the basic idea not to turn it into a parenting podcast but [TS]

  it's the overarching dilemma of what movies do you like your kid watch like [TS]

  what age where you balances and I have found it to be you know from the get go [TS]

  right from when he was Jonas was old enough to discuss it in front of a TV [TS]

  vexing dilemma and I'd ever moving target I totally and I never anticipated [TS]

  being difficult I just always thought before I had a kid that at any given [TS]

  moment you could give me any movie or TV show and I can instantly tell you [TS]

  whether it was appropriate but it ends up being I think devilishly tricky well [TS]

  exactly right so I mean the only thing I would want to establish is that you know [TS]

  we went to college and stuff we understand that there are things like [TS]

  ratings I think that the part that makes this so challenging is how different [TS]

  every kid is in terms of what they are sensitive to what's likely to be [TS]

  problematic [TS]

  or you know cause troubles and nightmares it's it's not as simple I i [TS]

  would i would I possibly it's not nearly as simple as just think I'm gonna trust [TS]

  the MPAA is there plenty of G-rated movies with stuff into the [TS]

  three-year-old some three year olds write a given three-year-old should not [TS]

  see end of the parents know that Lake you know it's really good to avoid that [TS]

  I mean when it comes up a lot of like scary music genre which is called scary [TS]

  music cellos were going into the woods some kids can watch somebody be [TS]

  decapitated freaked out my daughter things jumping into and out of frame [TS]

  completely freaked her out real oh yeah you know I can like a horror movie kind [TS]

  of thing yeah like in the background pops up even in any kind of movie no [TS]

  matter how innocuous it can kind of freaked her out so yeah exactly it's [TS]

  it's not the thing is it's in there on the other hand there are some kids wear [TS]

  like if you fast-forward through this one scene or this other scene they would [TS]

  be totally fine watching some pg-13 movies and it's just a it's why I think [TS]

  it's absurd we both have some horror stories about terrible decisions but [TS]

  also suggest I think it's interesting to talk about cuz I think everybody wants [TS]

  to look like the real smart about it and almost everybody who let their kids [TS]

  watch movies about it was way back in the mix wrong [TS]

  yeah and I give you one example from from Jonas when he was young and we we [TS]

  are outside the grand scheme of things we're relatively permissive and I always [TS]

  have but I don't I do and because I use a shake my head when you would tell me [TS]

  things that you would let him do it now I do the same stuff I but also I really [TS]

  feel like a big part of that was knowing what he was good with him he was good I [TS]

  think with relatively advanced [TS]

  violence in movies you know he watched Star Wars very very young and you know I [TS]

  don't think that there i watch it when I was in kindergarten to that was my [TS]

  thinking I know I was in kindergarten I came out I turned out alright but I [TS]

  remember it you never know that there's always little things have one of the we [TS]

  we let him watch the Pirates of the Caribbean movies at a very early age and [TS]

  I think that those RPG I don't think they're PG-thirteen and they got some [TS]

  pretty spooky stuff but the point is he didn't mind it no not at all except for [TS]

  one scene which is and I remember which one of them at 10 but there's one scene [TS]

  where a massive in the first one where they're going after the gold that if you [TS]

  stole the gold you became a ghost or every drop of blood and they cut [TS]

  somebody's somebody take a knife and just put a little like a PG-rated cut [TS]

  somebody's here and he just flipped him out and he had like a fit and he was [TS]

  aware of what's wrong with wrong and he just was holding his hand and he said I [TS]

  can feel it I can be lit screaming like it made him feel as though his handed my [TS]

  kid will [TS]

  compulsively I was looking for will automatically like finally turn away [TS]

  from the screen whenever there's blood like you know they can hide or something [TS]

  like that or like glue and its way so we you know you know middle of the day [TS]

  noon you know me working at home you know Joe's 56 years ago and we both [TS]

  looked at each other like we just gave each other's looking oh my god what have [TS]

  we done with the sport child's mind by letting him watch this movie that we [TS]

  should have known he was too young to watch but you just never now and then [TS]

  and then he would be good he wouldn't refuse to watch a movie but I'll tell [TS]

  you what he had it down don't he knew exactly when that scene was coming up [TS]

  and he would run out and he would say you call it pass fast forward fast over [TS]

  patches that any time when they got to the point where interest rates you when [TS]

  buzz has to its beginning in the video game when he has to walk out across the [TS]

  floating discs yeah yeah I said it best over and over I like that one through [TS]

  the broken password forgot its genesis list included the wampa wampa [TS]

  that's a good at another example of a of a jumping into frame thing you know what [TS]

  that's it yeah you know and and they and the suspense right it's the wampa the [TS]

  first time you see him it's the shocker right leg Luke is like looking for [TS]

  comments or whatever it hit the ground and all of a sudden boom the one that [TS]

  jumps in the frame yep mhm makes it terrible noise so you got that right [TS]

  that in the ad that Jonathan like that and Jonas wanted that whole thing skip [TS]

  though because he also could not bear the suspense of Luke [TS]

  a side of beef yeah and not you know it's like the first time he's ever even [TS]

  tried to use the Force to get a lightsaber and it's just sitting there [TS]

  giggling you know it's it's it's like film school 101 you know like how to [TS]

  build a little suspense you know the lightsaber do this them you know perfect [TS]

  of course John Williams score for the moment which furthers the suspense is [TS]

  about one that I was scared of and my kid was scared of what about win [TS]

  in absolute 41 Luke's looking through binoculars and the Tusken Raider [TS]

  no not at all even though it to me it's actually just so it's the same thing [TS]

  right [TS]

  no i didnt bother no talking about the wampa terrifying the Tusken Raider who [TS]

  does the exact same thing you know you know but you get a member talking about [TS]

  how about this and about how his daughter he thought his daughter was [TS]

  still very tensed certain kinds this is a really sweet kid and his relationship [TS]

  things and some people are very sensitive to almost everything in other [TS]

  people it's virtually impossible to tell my daughter has seen some really grizzly [TS]

  shit in movies like she said Deadpool put his head back on at the end of [TS]

  annexin and ensure the whole movie is pretty great a terrible movie but but [TS]

  there are some things were I can't guess ok so for example she's watched a ton of [TS]

  Doctor Who little scared by the Daleks she's watched pretty much almost every [TS]

  Marvel movie except for a few and all the Star Wars movies numerous times but [TS]

  then you know we watch tonight did you ever see that show on Cartoon Network [TS]

  from last year [TS]

  color with a garden wall ever it's kind of like an adventure time you think [TS]

  about these two little boys who are brothers having these like kind of fairy [TS]

  tale adventures can buy with a silly symphonies cartoon feel really great [TS]

  show but it is like a fairy tale kind of show where there's scary stuff that's [TS]

  not exactly explain his kids show it's like it is in the same way to measure [TS]

  time kind of it's kind of a kids show and that is the one stuck with her this [TS]

  creature on their called the beast and I didn't find out for weeks that she was [TS]

  scared honey I am so sorry and mom of course gives me the eyes and is gonna [TS]

  happen but you begin with you guessed I mean like she didn't mind people's faces [TS]

  melting off in Raiders of the Lost Ark but the idea of like a black be this [TS]

  kind of cartoon bear in the forest is terrifying pianos yeah I remember I had [TS]

  a friend growing up [TS]

  who I miss I don't know how but I missed Raiders of the Lost Ark when it was in [TS]

  theaters so I didn't see it but it always bothered me I was about 13 14 I [TS]

  was I was a ok so are 98 1981 so easy but I desperately wanted to see it could [TS]

  understand how mister you know seem like some I could get my dad to take me to it [TS]

  somehow I missed it but then you know there is no chance to see it but I knew [TS]

  the basic story and are are just knew that there was something about it the [TS]

  end everybody's faces in my one friend growing up was like completely freaked [TS]

  out about it like he had gone to see it and came out like crying embarrassed [TS]

  himself his mom you know [TS]

  himself his mom you know [TS]

  him out of the week here just write it wasn't the type of kid does it isn't [TS]

  just that like haha little skin melts off it's a full-on Ray Harryhausen they [TS]

  would like their entire head like it's a horrifying really effective effect yeah [TS]

  yeah but he was freaked out and he was the type of kid who just would not you [TS]

  know it wasn't like sent you wouldn't call me sensitive get you really wet [TS]

  normal boy who's going to see what should be an actress was happen to be [TS]

  his thing yeah I could just touch dinner what about the end you seen the trailer [TS]

  for the movie for Paddington has very little [TS]

  yeah I've seen the trailer ok the trailer I i've heard from friends that [TS]

  the movie is one of those movies where those rare movies with a movies actually [TS]

  way better than the trailer looks very loud here but do you see the trailer is [TS]

  seaweed in the bathroom I guess how many someday my daughter in so much trouble [TS]

  as seen in the bathroom where he's like interacting with what it is to be a [TS]

  berry is in the bathroom and he takes a toothbrush and sticks it in his ear [TS]

  pulls out this giant wad of totally disgusting looking here wax it's a dumb [TS]

  shot it's about three seconds and if I say the word paddington make it freaked [TS]

  out she cannot stop thinking about the disgusting earwax she'll hear nothing [TS]

  about going to see that movie because of this was he with iraq remember she's [TS]

  seen Deadpool put his head but the thing yet it's inexplicable [TS]

  here's the more access in bad parenting is the balance weighing wing the balance [TS]

  of an extreme example lake which you has the kids like a classic introduction to [TS]

  movies age of 15 Mike would you show your kid the third x-men movie if [TS]

  they're five years old she know me I'm gonna go you know what I'm not because [TS]

  it's not a very good movie there is a lot of inside words in it as we say in [TS]

  our house there is some violence in it but you know what it's just not worth it [TS]

  because whatever she sees it is that what because the movie's not that good [TS]

  with you hesitate to show your kid [TS]

  did mystery 20 my gosh now it's got scary things in it a little bit but it's [TS]

  so worth it right so is not part of the balance though it isn't like you make [TS]

  your kids sit there and watch castle freak or something like you're thinking [TS]

  like oh this is a perfect is this the perfect age to introduce this wonderful [TS]

  story to this kit yeah that's a very good point it has to be you know that [TS]

  the quality of the movie factors in his own defense I'm sitting there with her [TS]

  watching the movie like what you know except in the case of Milan 2010 my iPad [TS]

  like I am there watching the movie with her we're talking about the movie not [TS]

  that it's like Harvard or something just to be clear like I I it's got to be a [TS]

  movie I like it's got to be good and it's got to be appropriate given what I [TS]

  can never guess I I totally agree with that i think you know when I was gonna [TS]

  scenery and he saw the Bond movies back when dan and I were talking about it i [TS]

  mean that they're a bunch of them and that was weird on two levels because it [TS]

  also in addition to the fact that it's kind of violent for kid who's probably [TS]

  six or seven at the time there there's the anachronisms right i mean you know I [TS]

  think dan and I spent my half an hour just talk on the pacing and this is this [TS]

  is one that blew me off the water thing in the face of a casino I was I knew [TS]

  this one was gonna be a lecture people are going to think that that that was [TS]

  like a total Merlin euphemism but that you literally sent me a text with a pic [TS]

  next to a picture of gold of James Bond character goldfinger in the fifties and [TS]

  this one I barely barely barely got this one past the censors my wife was pretty [TS]

  iffy about this cuz if it will really worried I will watch the entire movie [TS]

  through again to be sure I definitely have to find time to talk about eighties [TS]

  movies and how weird animals 80 never know when your gonna show up in a crazy [TS]

  but it's really is the best James Bond movie and it's kinda [TS]

  kind of a silly plot but it's not that hard to follow but you know what my main [TS]

  thing was I was like she is going to watch she'll watch up to any takes off [TS]

  this thing and have stocks that's pretty funny [TS]

  like the pacing of this movie by her standards is so glacial there's no way [TS]

  she's gonna watch more than 20 minutes and then it became the movie that she [TS]

  demanded to watch it was completely perplexing watching it they were people [TS]

  are sitting drinking mint juleps and Kentucky and talking about contaminating [TS]

  gold I was blown away so again I had no idea that she really liked it also cuts [TS]

  in the penis she turns we did in 2011 to Jonas was seven when I let him that's [TS]

  the same here with her seven-year I don't think I want a seven is on TV once [TS]

  a year I think the same way I don't know I mean you know one thing to it the [TS]

  violence I know and I know a lot of you know there's a big three there's [TS]

  violence language and sex I mean that's the big three like concerns not smoking [TS]

  eating gets ass mouth but I V us [TS]

  scariness as I would say scariness is probably the top issue because I I [TS]

  really do think that you know like truly scary movie you know can upset a kid for [TS]

  days I do realize I'd absolutely realize that there are some kids a lot of times [TS]

  boys who if they see a movie where there's a lot of like shooting action [TS]

  even in a sort of cartoon away like Star Wars that it gets the kid all amped up [TS]

  and then the kid starts jumping around the house smashing things like you know [TS]

  like I showed her bit sore shoulder YouTube videos of priestly like a pastor [TS]

  Bruce Lee or something like that and she's watched kick everything after that [TS]

  well and/or and worse that you wanted kids wanna kick other kids Jonas's never [TS]

  ever been to jones' very gentle kid and it's anything that he season movie did [TS]

  not alter the behavior in the real world so I mean I think it allowed us to be a [TS]

  little permissive you know that way but I think most kids are actually pretty [TS]

  good that way I think it's kind of rare you know so [TS]

  the violence we've always been a little liberal depend on the violence it [TS]

  depends on i mean you know that thing is there are phrases that I would hear [TS]

  people use before had a child and i would just I would want to strangle the [TS]

  person the phrase a phrase I used to sneer at imitative behavior you know [TS]

  that sometimes in these reviews you'll see well it contains an assesment then [TS]

  imitative behavior meaning you know the three stooges rate that's a good example [TS]

  of you watching the three stooges a private one hit somebody on the head [TS]

  Maggie Simpson with the mallet or whatever but I doubt I think I think [TS]

  there's also this is really where I don't know I'm out on a limb but I think [TS]

  there are differences there's different kinds of violence I think stormtroopers [TS]

  getting bloodless Lee shot with comic book violence is really different from [TS]

  Hellraiser [TS]

  or like saw I think there is a really big difference in degree and the [TS]

  personal massage it so there are some things in the seventies and eighties [TS]

  movies there is so much completely random weird nudity and sex in seventies [TS]

  and eighties movie especially eighties movies but there's also some extremely [TS]

  personal violence in in these kinds of movies like the idea of my calling [TS]

  somebody with a knife to the throat and cutting them I think that is a different [TS]

  kind of animal than a stormtrooper getting shot personally yeah I do two or [TS]

  even just sticking the guns with especially in the older ones went by and [TS]

  shoot somebody it's practically like shooting a stormtrooper I mean it's like [TS]

  you know like the script discriminant chester was just like a puff of smoke [TS]

  and the guy just you know [TS]

  sharks with lasers it whereas I think the more visceral violence in the more [TS]

  recent ones like the ones you know is a little different [TS]

  oh my gosh oh no no no I mean a lot different yeah yeah I mean I could pull [TS]

  it off [TS]

  what do you think about what do you think about the actual ratings I i still [TS]

  think it was a mistake to introduce the rating pg-13 [TS]

  I find it well it certainly was easier at one time to understand everybody knew [TS]

  what are rated meant are ready you can expect some some serious nudity and [TS]

  simulated sex you could expect some shit and fucks and you can expect we're [TS]

  smoking and drugs in your French Connection that's an R rated movie that [TS]

  was easy to understand now when I like that article 81 10 thread today [TS]

  1984 comes along you've got was a temple do know Temple of Doom gremlins were to [TS]

  move like this is just the gremlins I think I could seagram's for my kid out [TS]

  personally it so it's kind of a weird movie that is weird movie we just [TS]

  rewatched not recently but maybe like last Christmas cuz it's sort of a [TS]

  Christmas movie about a year ago but even even something like a movie we all [TS]

  love it's like Groundhog Day if Groundhog Day had just the smallest bit [TS]

  of editing it would be maybe a canonical family movie it's so close to being a [TS]

  Ghostbusters which Nikki there isn't ghostbusters [TS]

  effect blowjob you gotta remember that member that weird and aggregates the [TS]

  girls blowjob into doing in this movie it's a movie for kids or just you know [TS]

  there's all these news this is still true today I know what the Marvel movies [TS]

  are usually pretty good with the salty language into like the last act and [TS]

  that's when all the facts come out is always like what is the rules they're [TS]

  kind of like a standard for how many are allowed and pg-13 movie yeah I think [TS]

  there's some kind of kinetic they'd like to really look him up in the back to [TS]

  when the closing action but I'm just saying like that's the part that's [TS]

  perplexing is there are like you telling Ghostbusters not right for kids back to [TS]

  the future but their system back back to the future is a great a great family [TS]

  movie The still has some stuff in it that's a little edgy I mean you know [TS]

  he's in his underwear I guess it's not a big deal but you know it straight at [TS]

  home alone I mean kids movie right there with what seemed an iron in the face [TS]

  that's worse than Wolverine I don't know I don't know the violence and home alone [TS]

  is kinda weird cuz it's a no one hand it's kind of gone from the three stooges [TS]

  thing and then the other hand there's like actual acid like walking up the [TS]

  steps in bare feet and you see the nail sticking out of the step and you're like [TS]

  this is the most horrific thing that I've ever seen he has every kid's [TS]

  terrified repairs to terrify contestants from a nail right and he steps on in [TS]

  like a three-inch exposed like now right past it's an interesting movie because [TS]

  it it does the bit like his but sitting Kevin Kevin Kevin mastery of these two [TS]

  buffoon criminals is established cinematically such that you kind of get [TS]

  the sense that the kids gonna come out on top [TS]

  they you know and that therefore his his mastery of of these two criminals the [TS]

  way that he prolongs their stuff it really does kind of in a in a scented [TS]

  too little bit more like torture than a grand genial it's deliberately making [TS]

  this is awful as he can [TS]

  it's less self defense and more towards he's kind of enjoy man actually I think [TS]

  there's a couple of scenes relate one of his you know traps works and he just [TS]

  flat out like high fives and yes I gotta pick that up with a dead leg her fist [TS]

  out in fuller go easy on the patsy I love them but I don't know I'm just [TS]

  saying okay how about this I G thirteen so there I think it was a mistake [TS]

  because I think that the old way was gee that's a kids movie that's for everybody [TS]

  PPG is it's in between and r is for adults and doesn't matter what does [TS]

  matter he says it all [TS]

  pgp he says like your mileage may vary like you know it basically sit almost [TS]

  kind of says like you need to like watch the kids do practical or likely be [TS]

  advised right [TS]

  be advised think about it [TS]

  you know if your kid is younger and if your kid is over 10 it probably probably [TS]

  get yeah you know I don't know but it's again that good to me the hard part is [TS]

  this sense to Shu linked to this website that I i look at a lot and I i I'm [TS]

  somewhat ambivalent about it and yet I find it extremely useful cannot believe [TS]

  I'm saying this is kids in mind [TS]

  yeah very interesting idea they review these movies but it's very funny so none [TS]

  of it is they come up with this these three Lake three numbers numerals but [TS]

  how much sex and nudity is there from 0 to 10 how much violence and gore [TS]

  profanity from 0 to 10 which i think it's a great like you know a fast glantz [TS]

  we're okay we're thinking about these two different movies like which one of [TS]

  these looks better on the face of it and it seems to me that quick sniff test [TS]

  attended you go in and look at the actual page at like how like porn where [TS]

  they describe all the stuff that actually in it [TS]

  no i didnt im looking at lunch spot in the way they describe its hilarious I [TS]

  wanna meet the person who writes this spongebob movie which I absolutely not [TS]

  wanna see sex and nudity get a tattoo machine human men on the beach with [TS]

  their chests many women wear skimpy bikinis and reveal cleavage spandex [TS]

  shorts partially down from a starfish is waste we see the upper buttocks and [TS]

  buttock cleavage [TS]

  going here for more to come husband and his wife attempt to kiss several times [TS]

  different scenes but his mustache makes her and she gags in reflex please see [TS]

  the violence and gore category for more details on the gag but does it read like [TS]

  something like a japanese-made will buy for porn [TS]

  American sniper profanity get to 10 about a hundred and fifteen f words and [TS]

  its derivatives 10 sexual references 32 scatological terms twenty anatomical [TS]

  terms twelve miles obscenities name-calling including such a quitter [TS]

  nuts old man hotbox arrogance also sitting ducks legend [TS]

  why county road down John like [TS]

  count all a hundred and fifteen Fox because clearly anyway how long is the [TS]

  movie even if it's three hours you're you're you're on the 22 hours and 12 [TS]

  minutes so it's a roughly 10 minute right and left unless there's like a [TS]

  burst at the end it's you know I think you don't have to go about two or three [TS]

  movies minutes into this movie and you can just check often on all rights like [TS]

  this like your if you're like the inspector for a hotel like you don't [TS]

  have to count the bus routes in the lobby new dealers check that off just [TS]

  chalk it off you know how to count them you don't have to count 1998 film lock [TS]

  people up families have enjoyed called The Big Lebowski profanity about two [TS]

  hundred and forty effort many scatological references many anatomical [TS]

  references many pundits entities to fixed on a Kabul [TS]

  I I love this but I know that i'm gonna lose a lot of time on this site like oh [TS]

  I know anything like it show it to my wife can't she's a grown ass woman but [TS]

  you know it makes its when you read when you read it in this clinical way and [TS]

  makes it sound so much worse when they say a star fishes swim suit is pulled [TS]

  down reveals buttocks guys at Patrick Fitzpatrick but his goddamn cartoon [TS]

  character it's okay if we see is but I looked up Fantastic Mr Fox which is [TS]

  actually I just watched it I love it so much I thought he called it a link to a [TS]

  picture from it he said its underrated I think it's my favorite with Sanders it's [TS]

  it's it's one of my all-time favorite movies let alone one of our families [TS]

  like these two movies if we can decide on anything it comes to plug it into the [TS]

  Incredibles or mister Fox yeah that's those are those are two good wanted to [TS]

  leave at the top of the key for sex and nudity is only ranked 21 out of 10 which [TS]

  meshes with my memory [TS]

  here's what we've got [TS]

  husband and a wife Justin Fox kiss and hug a teen boy in a team girl Fox for in [TS]

  a couple of scenes I do remember that my lab partner number to a rat refers to a [TS]

  Fox's wife as the quote count are right I yeah I never off a fox wife tells her [TS]

  Fox husband that she is pregnant so that gets counts from 401 on this sex nudity [TS]

  schedule while the man yeah but again you know if this is ok so I just gotta [TS]

  say in this is this is actually really helpful though 'cause like you say this [TS]

  is the rats in the lobby title is like you can see like oh yeah he's not gonna [TS]

  be great to watch with the kids and the wrong now we're gonna skip this one but [TS]

  it is also good you can go through and look for elect the trigger a trigger for [TS]

  your kids twenty seven XQ made this is for profanity 27 exclamations what the [TS]

  cuss cuss words what the cuss cuss word yeah they have the scatological terms [TS]

  glossary [TS]

  F word derivatives which all have little asterisks in the scatological terms [TS]

  religious profanities yelled obscenities friggin would be counted as a mild [TS]

  obscenity derogatory terms wow but you know I still gotta remember this do you [TS]

  remember mid late nineties do you remember a service that was actually [TS]

  kind of like but became Netflix where you could get a knitted movies I think [TS]

  it might have been a somewhat overtly Christian place but she could get like a [TS]

  PGA movie that all of the stuff a certain kind of religious person would [TS]

  find offensive cut out I do remember hearing about it [TS]

  hearing about it I don't know where winter when it did but is not especially [TS]

  in the digital age is a very interesting idea yeah cuz it would be you know you [TS]

  could do without losing for that we just need some basic metadata on like well [TS]

  you know he's going to be so great if you could do it and say you know what my [TS]

  family is observe it and we don't want any guide dams could you just with audio [TS]

  clip out the guidance but leave in the horror violence or whatever else they [TS]

  want to share his passion of the Christ but you know i mean that cuz I gotta say [TS]

  I i'm i'm I find that kinda goes against my values about censorship or something [TS]

  but that's what I'm asking for you know there are some movies I am much more [TS]

  likely to have my daughter watching a hotel room because I know they've been [TS]

  you know edited down they've taken out the Highlander in a hotel room she [TS]

  thought was a riot I would never show that to her at home I never thought [TS]

  about that [TS]

  looking for hotel at the Director's Cut and then there's hilton's cut wow this [TS]

  is an unusual unusual spread on Passion of the Christ sex and nudity profanity [TS]

  someone else and gore full 1000 mile get I've been now looking for movies that I [TS]

  have let Jonas see that they don't even bother to list because of the shining is [TS]

  not lose all come on are you know it's me that I'd let him see it yeah yeah I [TS]

  think that's the only cougar now she's never that was recently that was with ya [TS]

  Clockwork Orange is gonna have to wait but there are some things [TS]

  you know what to tell you but there's a movie that she has been to see some of [TS]

  the book which I told her the entire story and I'm like it's that's why too [TS]

  much personal violence like that the violence in Homs I tell you I don't care [TS]

  I'm sad I love them I thought was a great movie I thought was modified those [TS]

  very well done and i i just i I really liked it and I cannot wait as well as [TS]

  movies like that and costly saying her honey I cannot wait until you're old [TS]

  enough to watch it like that one blade runner up later his employer now yeah [TS]

  thats yeah there's the darryl hanah the republicans doing some pretty bad lately [TS]

  on you got leon there's some pretty bad stuff I would imagine that he's eleven [TS]

  out ruler yeah I'm worried how much how much do they play up that there was a [TS]

  prostitute lol ok afraid it's gonna be imitative behavior [TS]

  well I would get a job but I would say only only within like the last year's [TS]

  should probably rated by must've been released [TS]

  yeah some of them are amazing I'm telling you there's something about [TS]

  eighties movies that seems completely random movies that in my head I think of [TS]

  as being like me because I saw them when I was a young teenager [TS]

  I'm so blown away there's just nowhere in the movie we just watched over [TS]

  Christmas we watched weekend at Bernie's a loved it he absolutely loved it [TS]

  but there were a couple of surprising eighties sort of boobies yeah I don't [TS]

  know how else to describe those in the thing was that it was so egregious [TS]

  I think a lot of things I'm thinking I was by the time you had the actual you [TS]

  know VHS or beta cable and certainly get ready for distribution on TV and if you [TS]

  think about it like a douche I think about but with her but she thought about [TS]

  it we thought about it and then we were like running it through our head so much [TS]

  of it that's good but that you know more later i shud [TS]

  Carl finance candy bar in the pool I don't know when we're gonna have to talk [TS]

  about what abortion is but it's not going to be so that waitress has a baby [TS]

  boy was gonna say about us I think about how how egregious and unnecessary so [TS]

  many the boobies are like you could tell they made it to be easy to cut out the [TS]

  shot of her shirt off what was it like you had to have that in every age movie [TS]

  early eighties movie like stripes [TS]

  you know i mean that are like kind of mostly ok in some ways but there are [TS]

  like super inappropriate in other ways but yeah there's gotta be it doesn't [TS]

  have to be like a scene where there were twenty three-year-old a party with [TS]

  feathered hair and they're either getting hosed down or having a full [TS]

  effect [TS]

  well an awful lot actresses got hosed down nerds in in completely mainstream [TS]

  Bollywood movies in the nineteen eighties car wash to save the orphanage [TS]

  there's no punches are soft right to tell people how do we help people at [TS]

  this John there are new parents out there people having babies they crazy [TS]

  people how do we help people I don't know I feel like you've actually got to [TS]

  have faith in your kids I feel like because I don't know I just remember [TS]

  when I was a kid when I was not allowed to watch certain movies it was a [TS]

  constant source of frustration from a prior I did and we had a neighborhood [TS]

  movie theater and it was so great I think I thought I had to have talked [TS]

  about this on the show something but it's probably years ago probably like [TS]

  Dan but it was I didn't even have to cross the street is cata corner up and [TS]

  around the block from my parents house so I don't even have to cross the street [TS]

  and it was called the majestic and it was an old-time like vaudeville theatre [TS]

  that at some point [TS]

  forties or fifties was turned into a movie theater and it was I connected to [TS]

  the fire companies so they have the building was fire trucks the other half [TS]

  of the movie theater and it was just right out of central casting of old-time [TS]

  matinee movie theater velvet seats while had a balcony a big balcony like around [TS]

  the side and it was run by a family the guy who owned it was mister dieter Peter [TS]

  Dietrich dealer I think and he is by around 50 and his dad was the [TS]

  projections and the ticket taker the front door is dad he must have been 75 [TS]

  but in in tomorrow eyes as I eight nine-year-olds he was ancient he was [TS]

  like older than God he was he was he was older [TS]

  and then the kids his like near do well teenaged son would sometimes be working [TS]

  and it was such a great place could you sometimes get away with it well what you [TS]

  can sometimes get away with is if the kid was behind it had great popcorn like [TS]

  the best popcorn in the universe and they had because it was like a little [TS]

  you know a little movie theater they never got movies when they were new they [TS]

  got movies right after they were new so like Empire Strikes Back would come out [TS]

  and it would play for three months at the multiplex then the majestic for like [TS]

  you know however they wanted and they would sometimes have like two movies at [TS]

  the same time even though it was just you know wasn't a multiplex one screen [TS]

  but like in the afternoon they might show like a kids movie like Peter Pan [TS]

  and at night time there was no john travolta and they would also strip show [TS]

  Rock movies like concert films from movies yeah like they were like just [TS]

  contra movies like The Stones and Led Zeppelin and stuff like that my parents [TS]

  are those are our backyard would get trash TV they're like cut through like [TS]

  and and stuff but it was such a great place but I remember weeks ago as a kid [TS]

  any Saturday where it was winter or if it was raining or whatever we would just [TS]

  go to the majestic we would just go there because it was $1 dollar man [TS]

  apparently mom when my giving them money out of there but every once in a while I [TS]

  remember one time specifically I wasn't allowed to all my friends were going and [TS]

  they didn't give one day when mr Peters he did you should tell you if you had $2 [TS]

  you so that the Saturday matinee was Cujo [TS]

  this whole story is my house and I was not allowed my mom checked I knew she [TS]

  wouldn't let me as I hope I just go to the majestic and she said what play I [TS]

  don't know just let me luck she looks you know in the newspaper of course it [TS]

  is Kujo rated R in Nashua tell you well I don't know I can sometimes go and see [TS]

  what's there [TS]

  yeah and we would often go if they had the same movie two weeks ago we'd go see [TS]

  it twice in a row [TS]

  if we sat in the balcony last time we'll sit up in the front row this time and [TS]

  you know after time on the balcony would disturb them throw popcorn on teenagers [TS]

  who were making out down the back they're like little kids up in the front [TS]

  row little kids on the balcony and like teenagers making out the back row we [TS]

  would try to throw popcorn on the great thing they had video games in the lobby [TS]

  got up a little mini arcade in the lobby and you can play them and he also said [TS]

  that the old man's dad with the projections were the projection booth [TS]

  was up in the balcony and it took him I swear no joke like five minutes to walk [TS]

  up the steps and he was seriously all that he would he was told he would take [TS]

  the steps like left foot and then the right foot would be in the center right [TS]

  foot so it was like a last call for video games like when his dad started [TS]

  going up the steps you knew you had time for you could you could still get one [TS]

  more game without missing a place but I couldn't get into a can get into sea [TS]

  creature and I remember Blue Lagoon I remember missing out on the Blue Lagoon [TS]

  cable or brother but all my friends my friends parents decided they didn't [TS]

  check I think I don't think anybody's was probably around eight or nine at the [TS]

  time I don't think anybody in their right mind would let their eight or nine [TS]

  Realty Cujo but here's the thing to I remember thinking I would be fine I was [TS]

  not I i never once was upset by a movie in my entire life as a kid I was you [TS]

  know I think preternaturally sure I could have I and my friends are Cujo [TS]

  never find including my friend Dave who's the kid who got freaked out by [TS]

  raiders of the lost art he went to see crucial thought it was a cool movie you [TS]

  know what you're in for you know a better story you know now with older [TS]

  kids a lot of the time and I went back from Florida to visit my friend in Ohio [TS]

  that someone was later it was out and they're all older than me and they could [TS]

  pass and I look like it was for never forget we walk up there and they buy the [TS]

  tickets in my hand of God I walked up to the counter [TS]

  I think I was holding an unlit cigarette maybe they giving me to go for Blade [TS]

  Runner told you I was 13 and I really wanted to prevent teenagers like like [TS]

  teenagers did you ever do the thing where you buy a ticket for one you know [TS]

  they tell you and then try to sneak into never never occurred to me it's such [TS]

  that such a smart chick I was scared to do anything I was always scared by beer [TS]

  was scared to go are rated movies I was ever so I was such a good kid I could [TS]

  get like I did not want to disappoint anybody I was scared scared I was a [TS]

  scary like the rise of the multiplex and then once I was old enough money because [TS]

  they're so understaffed got a one kid that walks around us we some popcorn is [TS]

  paying attention to is going in the theaters you go and sit somewhere near [TS]

  an adult you're good to go [TS]

  yeah like I think a bunch of Schwarzenegger's eighties movies were R [TS]

  rated oh yeah all those people up and blowing things up a week you know we [TS]

  were just gonna buy tickets for whatever we thought we could get into and you can [TS]

  always sneak in there is always one guy like you would make sure you had a [TS]

  ticket there was no money in pursuing that now i mean there's money in running [TS]

  and selling you know goobers and pop court there's no money in my I am one [TS]

  time my friend Ethan and I went to multiplex two girls and it wasn't a date [TS]

  wasn't a date but it might have a legacy was a teenage situation over there were [TS]

  girls involved and so I could kind of pretend they may be and we wanted to see [TS]

  an R rated movie about we were it was like 13 anymore or maybe more like 15 or [TS]

  16 and so we did it be a problem and we asked for the R rated movie and she said [TS]

  no idea where I know and she was 17 of course she's a ticket for you know [TS]

  whatever was pgm she's like now on now and my friend and brother had had driven [TS]

  us and dropped us off Mason two or three years older so he was like 17 or 18 and [TS]

  he hadn't gone yet you know we we ran and got him and he he he bought our [TS]

  tickets are you kidding yeah but it was like but I still don't know how that I [TS]

  have no respect for people who buy beer for underage kids the people who buy [TS]

  said the guy drinks a lot but but but somebody buying movie tickets for kids [TS]

  that's pretty cool yeah but I don't know why she felt that she wouldn't fall for [TS]

  our will lose it by the PGA but she somehow fell for apparently once there's [TS]

  a seventeen year old involved you can get anybody in the city I D [TS]

  they they they can't say anything that the law right I think we told her to the [TS]

  parent holding a finger on your nose and my dad says it's ok later damn [TS]

  borderline you know there's again that higher games diehard there so many [TS]

  movies where I'm like you so can't see this yet but I really I cannot wait yeah [TS]

  I remember my was not allowed to read Catcher in the Rye and I don't even know [TS]

  why I wanted to some point I'd you know you know fairly avid reader and my mom [TS]

  hope you know that my mom encouraged it and you know I can buy books we get [TS]

  books at library and at some point I wanted to read Catcher in the Rye her [TS]

  with a coworker and she thought about I could tell she was really thought she [TS]

  was like you know it's a great book I can't wait for you to read it but you're [TS]

  not you're not old enough and I would ask like every six months can recapture [TS]

  I can actually see let me and I forget I don't know how old I was but you know [TS]

  maybe like 12 or 13 and I read it and I was expecting him because it been so set [TS]

  up by her not allow me to yeah I thought it was going to be like to end his [TS]

  country's great stuff being bored to tears I was just a kid walking right [TS]

  shoulder and I wish that's what my mom and said to me I wish she hadn't made [TS]

  she was thinking too much about some of the content and some of the ideas and I [TS]

  really really fundamentally it was more like you you you shouldn't bother [TS]

  reading in a yuan appreciate it if we're talking about it's a truly great book [TS]

  but you're not ready for it well give it to you are going this is it movie wise [TS]

  it's actually rated G [TS]

  content wise is not that bad but I won't let Jones watch 2001 right because I [TS]

  strongly suspect he'll be bored to tears and I don't want to get it or like or I [TS]

  mean watching the tape stuff the being that is so fake [TS]

  I wonder if you think it's like some of it some of the bag the staging looks [TS]

  fake I think the Apes themselves are still expect it that's for sure but now [TS]

  I'm with you that would be something is James Bond her like I was amazed that [TS]

  you can tolerate the pacing to watch goldfinger like three times now it's [TS]

  it's crazy figure they just sit up or just drink module on and on and then [TS]

  they had some discussions about whether they should go in and let you keep doing [TS]

  his thing James Bond in the sallies out of the cell he's in that he's in these [TS]

  in the world's craziest he's hiding under the world's craziest record my god [TS]

  what was the guys name can out of that room so much and everything everytime I [TS]

  watch it when goldfinger leaves to go make his deal with the guy who wants his [TS]

  money back to the same stupid we wanted to play billiards [TS]

  hey I I should go I gotta try to get to the strike to help people here I i mean [TS]

  what do your mileage may vary what we say what we SAT and I don't care what [TS]

  people think we're nuts but like well what would you say as a good piece of [TS]

  advice I would say one is if it if it's a movie you consider a classic you think [TS]

  your kid is almost ready for yourself [TS]

  yeah with them not there and also I would not be afraid to fest over yeah [TS]

  yeah [TS]

  passed passed for Passover yeah yeah you gotta watch it with them [TS]

  yeah I heard that I think we just got into tired this year we have said this [TS]

  is the first year that beautiful Christmas ten 10 years that's just about [TS]

  perfect I don't know I don't know why I had filed away is something to watch [TS]

  news 10 yeah yeah [TS]

  it's always a pleasure we just do this every weekend up without know when it [TS]

  gets to be good for us how I think we should start our own version of this [TS]

  kids in mind and we'll do our own our own version we're not gonna County [TS]

  effort no no women are our sites can be called rats in the lobby and we're just [TS]

  gonna let you know if your kids are just kept skipping that said that's it [TS]