100: ‘People Are Gay All the Time’, With John Moltz

0:00:00get the feeling that maybe a semitism fully baked occasionally so yes I went

0:00:08back in a fight with my input I think it's the amendment also restarted did

0:00:13but still exactly as you just you just recorded a show 22 efforts ago and

0:00:21everything and and what happened back in but that shouldn't happen I i I really

0:00:31cannot explain now there's a new Skype 7 a.m. town over justly keep one machine

0:00:38and pristine working condition and never unplug anything or restart it that's

0:00:45sort of what I do with my macbook air like I haven't upgraded it to yosemite

0:00:49country in like old man conservative you know like if it ain't broke don't fix it

0:00:55with this machine and it's dole you know and I don't update new versions of Skype

0:01:00and it still gives me problems you know like trying to be real conservative

0:01:04about what I do with the software on this particular machine doesn't seem to

0:01:09make a very little discipline is your answer you run it on and stuff yeah I

0:01:26it's been very complicated been complicated last few months because I've

0:01:31had I had from Apple and this wasn't just a special treat for John Gruber

0:01:38think it was a lot of us got it they gave us review unit to WBC MacBook Pro

0:01:47with comedy already installed as they actually wanted us to start using lied

0:01:52about it yeah

0:01:55serious I had needed he might be needed five but you know they gave him they

0:02:06give him an iPhone and reviews in a TPB he got an iPhone sex so that he not to

0:02:15review the events expert so he could write about continuity features which is

0:02:21really really really awesome that he you know there's a big help to him you know

0:02:24they've been very helpful stuff like that but that machine is gone now have

0:02:30done down the two machines in new 13 inch MacBook Pro and I've already again

0:02:35I started life just got it like a month ago it started on your 72 never seen

0:02:40anything but my old MacBook Air I just keep minus one had to get my wife needed

0:02:46the machine they had to make sure I got it before you simply came on everything

0:02:50because she would freak

0:02:54just might be the change in operating system now we've had this discussion

0:03:01before too but she doesn't like it either like you walk by later my phone

0:03:04over in like they'll be like a badge 57 out do you update your apps

0:03:15automatically do you have the App Store said see i dont have it said to update

0:03:19automatically but I do like like OCD like every time there's update I'd

0:03:25install them but the reason I don't do it automatically as I wanna know when

0:03:28there's no wonder I like to read the release notes probably safer and just in

0:03:34case you know I can't remember the last time that I've had like an app that I

0:03:40didn't want to update been years you know just in case there's like you know

0:03:45some kind of you know regression in a nap yeah it happened

0:03:53right like the equivalent of like what they did with pages and iWork suite on

0:03:59Mac you know going from nine to whatever they call the new ones and I mean

0:04:04basically some of those just because of the way the App Store work in the

0:04:07process because normally developers would just roll back something that was

0:04:13there is a collection of her something they can't do that they have to resubmit

0:04:19it you know I noticed someone talking about pages I I am i big complaint and

0:04:29the thing that I could not stand about the update 2 pages in particular is that

0:04:34for the few things I use word processing like for example with sponsors sometimes

0:04:39you know if I send them an invoice I have a page template and it's really

0:04:42nice I've got a nice typography on it and for years now maybe even 10 years

0:04:48Mac OS tennishead wonderful built in system-level typography so that I can

0:04:53open type font that has small caps and alternate dinner the figures the old

0:05:02style figures were the numbers dropped below the baseline or sometimes go above

0:05:06the baseline and you can

0:05:08system wide open Text Editor Free Text you know just the symbols

0:05:14replacement for simple text go to find panel open the typography panel and you

0:05:18get this wonderful typography controls my template all set up with you know

0:05:24small caps for certain things and stuff like that and pages the new version of

0:05:28pages last year 2013 version dropped support for all of that in the name of

0:05:33compatibility with iOS which doesn't have any of those typography features

0:05:37anymore so I stuck with the patron pages in particular I stuck with 2009 version

0:05:42like numbers I i dont know why I don't know what the you know I'm such as

0:05:46simple simpleton using a spreadsheet that I didn't notice anything worse in

0:05:53numbers I use the new version in numbers but I use the old version of pages but I

0:05:57notice with the latest version of pages it's it is so complicated

0:06:01I they had like an update with your sanity and I'm hoping that the

0:06:06typography stuff is back and it's not create a new document and pages and you

0:06:12have a fight that has true small-caps not like the fake fake fake small caps

0:06:16but real small caps there's no way did to turn text into small caps in the new

0:06:21version but if you open and pages 09 document in a new version of pages and

0:06:28you already have small caps it now

0:06:30still supports it doesn't make it go away so it and it seems like what you

0:06:37can do it doesn't get into it seems like what you can do is you can open a new

0:06:43version pages you can switch to text it and make your text in you know use the

0:06:48advanced typography its features copy and paste it go back two pages and paste

0:06:53works as weird so so it's really really like you know it I guess seems like

0:07:01they're making some kind of progress on that front but it's actually more

0:07:04complicated than it was a year ago when the simple it was just a simple answer

0:07:07no you can use this feature

0:07:12it's like there's nothing to do with iMovie years ago

0:07:15yeah yeah when they switched from being a sort of very basic traditional

0:07:21non-linear video editor to do whatever I was even seen that guy is Randy obelisk

0:07:33still there you know I may not be there anymore

0:07:39very good questions I heard something about him possibly leaving not like I

0:07:44have any you know that he was in trouble but sort of you know that he'd been

0:07:48there had been burned out you know that you know you know just had been their

0:07:53own major major software projects for years and years and he may not be there

0:07:57I'm not sure to good question anybody knows liberties you can tell me and then

0:08:00doing a function really listens to show you know you'd be surprised but have not

0:08:08checked alright I actually got it very nice email from somebody at Comcast it

0:08:18was actually very very nice email somebody is you know seems to be a true

0:08:21fan of the show and they said that they were they were half laughing and crying

0:08:24for hours but fired they TV guys had a good a good bit about how he was not the

0:08:36guy who was I would I want to hear from as I want to hear from the guy who made

0:08:39that graphic I want to hear the story of how the traffic now that ATP guys had a

0:08:48good bit about the way that the iWorks apps feature wise you know when

0:08:54comparing contrast that with Microsoft which you know never takes fans away if

0:08:59there's ever in advance you know if we were never gained advanced typography

0:09:02features you can bank on it that it's never gonna lose them in the future and

0:09:09any other thing that they brought up in this to me is so crazy it cannot believe

0:09:13that it's true and I didn't even know it i have it like Mark to do more research

0:09:18on it

0:09:19linking up from Darren fireball that apparently the new version of

0:09:23of at least pages but maybe it's the whole iWork suite no longer reads

0:09:27documents iwerks documents that are older than the versions created by the

0:09:3209 versions really so like yes I like pages like that the oldest Pages

0:09:39document you can open now in the current version of pages is from pages 09

0:09:43anything created with a version of pages earlier than pages 09 will no longer

0:09:47open in pages which is as crazy as I was about to delete the old version in the

0:09:5409 version supports that stuff in a folder I was thinking I can just get rid

0:09:59of that iWork 09 folder is not now known as crazy or at the very least and it

0:10:05sounds like such such busy work but you really like the sensible idea you know

0:10:11what you really need to do is find every single iwerks document that you have an

0:10:15open it costs like if make sure see if you have seriously this is what you we

0:10:23would have to do what we will have to do is open up every version and any

0:10:27documentation fine that's older than 09 and make sure it's saved as 09 at the

0:10:32very least to go back I'm sure got some someplace but I probably can't find them

0:10:36right now try it but I will make sure to add a note and put that in the show

0:10:42notes and I have a link where everybody but I got away from it but it's so crazy

0:10:46and that you know they they rightly pointed out that that is exactly like

0:10:52where Microsoft is so great because they you does not like you know that word

0:10:59today

0:11:00go by the latest version of Microsoft Word you know it opens

0:11:051.0 don't know what I would you bet against just right click like if you set

0:11:17up like a 1984 like PC running like da Stu and like the first version of

0:11:24Microsoft Word four-dot I don't even know what maybe dogs came out later 1984

0:11:29whatever the first year that das one you know . at Microsoft Word document save

0:11:34it I guarantee you that that document will open with four fidelity in today's

0:11:38microsoft word did you work did you use the word back now I was always a Mac

0:11:47right man okay okay yeah yeah I used word until six where they screwed

0:11:55everything up and then yeah and I started using wordperfect

0:12:02my wife and his word perfect for years even like long after it had been

0:12:08basically forgotten I don't even know if I ever even used word perfect and it was

0:12:16pretty was for some thing was it was always popular wordperfect was huge in

0:12:21the legal community I think I remember correctly for some reason and then word

0:12:25was leaked everywhere else

0:12:28and it was a big was a big problem for a lot of thinking that's kinda what drove

0:12:34a lot of people to switch to PCs because they're using Word and they had to

0:12:41switch to world anyway and various other using wordperfect and they had to switch

0:12:45to Mac and they had to switch to world anyway and so they're like well I must

0:12:49switch I gotta buy a license so I'm just gonna go by MPC one thing from that era

0:12:56was that there were no demos for commercial software and the commercial

0:13:02software was very exams so you really our only options where to pirate it

0:13:07spend a significant amount of money like probably I'm guessing you know like a

0:13:14word perfect for Mac was probably like $149 oh that was like the student

0:13:19license maybe even a hundred and that's like nineteen ninety dollars you know

0:13:27not just a liddo it's not long enough ago that inflation has some you know

0:13:32some of you still use the old you can exchange you take that down in exchange

0:13:38for gold government now I was always a Mac rate I'm a great man and part of it

0:13:47maybe was just that I don't think I had to pay for it because it drexel we we

0:13:51had like a university-wide site license for everything from Clarus and you could

0:13:57just go to the student center and get my first like first couple of years like

0:14:02their early nineties 9192 you'd go to the student center with blank floppies

0:14:07and there was a machine where you just put them in and it would one-by-one you

0:14:12know you tell one you know the whole Clara sweep you know yet what else there

0:14:17but you know like Mac right something I we had excelled though it wasn'ta Clara

0:14:22spreadsheet at the time and we had like like a university-wide site license for

0:14:27Excel too and you would just go there with all you have to do is bring your

0:14:31own poppies poppies and you get like officially licensed install disks for

0:14:36cell like right now I always like I can remember not getting getting an

0:14:43officially licensed yeah crazy it is absolutely crazy which was like one

0:14:55point for four megabytes if it was double density high density right there

0:15:03was the original lobbies however 401 Syracuse's Syracuse L is me on this cuz

0:15:12I've whenever we go retro on the show I always say that they started at eight

0:15:16hundred know they're like 1984 smacks had 400 K

0:15:213.5 inch floppy these and then and then 801 804 called double density and high

0:15:30density

0:15:32you could take even though you could take a double density the 800 K one and

0:15:40if you punched a hole in the corner you could that the the floppy driver treated

0:15:46as a high-density want because there was like for backwards compatibility the way

0:15:53that they did it was

0:15:57the high-density the ones you know one point four megabyte capacity with the

0:16:01exact same form factor as the 800 K ones so you could put it in the same drive

0:16:05but the way the drive would recognize that it was high density is that the

0:16:10high-density once had a hole in the corner and if you took like it was the

0:16:16dead people may I don't know if you could use a hole punch but there was a

0:16:20good thing that people made you could buy that you would punch a hole in 800 K

0:16:24desk and then the driver treated as a high-density one even though like the

0:16:30manufacturer hadn't made it for that like that he'll lose you see we were

0:16:35with her are dating back then the sailors floppy sometimes a little bit

0:16:41now that's that's how the world works and you can fit you had to be able to

0:16:48fit in a pond one I guess you get their installers for big bigger software where

0:16:55the software would run across multiple discs and it would be like a zip file or

0:17:01the equivalent that was spread across multiple yeah right I remember that

0:17:06could use story you stuff it spread them across multiple tasks done story but

0:17:16anyway I found my son was playing with the old computers they've got liner and

0:17:21order and there we've gotta get a performer 6400 and we came down in the

0:17:29basement of came across a box full of things like I was like what are these

0:17:33authors that we should try this and so do this meticulous process because I was

0:17:39like ok we get the symptoms does it played into the the 6400 we start the

0:17:466400 up and there's a password on it and i cant member with the pastors and so ok

0:17:53that's fine there's a way around that and the way is something else you can

0:17:57get

0:17:58you can get in and just delete this is the high-security on Nos she could just

0:18:03delete a file in the assistance during the system for going to delete a file

0:18:12and restart that's fine but you gotta start with something else for that model

0:18:16won't start a floppy disks yet start off a CD Drive with the CD Drive was broken

0:18:20in the 64 hundreds and I don't know why I get this compulsion to do this but I

0:18:27like I gotta solve this problem now and I just saw this problem I guess table 8

0:18:32solving this problem so I pull the drive the hard drive 500 and I take it up and

0:18:39I put it in my my PowerMac g4 PowerMac as an extra drive start up the lead to

0:18:46fight he'll take it back down put it back in the 6400 and as I'm putting it

0:18:52back in the 6400 and reconnecting everything I have the Zip Drive sitting

0:18:57on top of the 6400 and to stand in the basement of this cement floor and I

0:19:02knocked the drive off on a break this if I went through this huge prizes and in

0:19:09the end I just read the thing that I was trying to connect them looking at some

0:19:19in the market for a new drive now I was like I did look on ebay and it's like

0:19:24fifteen 15 20 bucks to get it holds up criminals like at the point where

0:19:30actually came to shelling out money but my time is worthless but my money is not

0:19:33easily heard you easily per ten times that you easily burn hundreds of dollars

0:19:43I imagine if it was like somebody commissioned to write an article that

0:19:51would take it out and then he said and it paid $15 right but but when it came

0:19:58to find actually give somebody 15 bucks for an older so actually I actually had

0:20:06to use word recently speaking of the price of word and you know that being

0:20:12able to get a license because you could just get up like the office 360 license

0:20:18for you can pay by the month end its like seven bucks a month or something

0:20:22like that for just the regular version for the Mac version there is no link

0:20:29enterprise stuff there's no access I saw that this weekend at the you know the

0:20:36news you know the big news story this week from Microsoft was within the last

0:20:41week but that they've made the the mobile versions of The Office apps

0:20:47freidy's like pretty much no stranger the basic functionality of it yes but

0:20:54its reach you know read read right before it was that you could read

0:20:58documents but you couldn't and now you can you can't do track changes and

0:21:05probably a couple of some of the stuff in the big one I think that people often

0:21:09use track changes and to pay for it and that santa came out with Android

0:21:16versions to that story is interesting I think so I mean I think differently and

0:21:25said they were going to do that

0:21:29and there was some assembly I saw somebody reach we did ok and executive

0:21:35from Google saying can't wait for Microsoft Office Mobile is the official

0:21:41office companion optimized for your Android phone you can access view and

0:21:46edit your Microsoft Word Excel I'm guessing that yeah yeah they have

0:21:51entered versions it seems you know that and again you know it's this weird with

0:21:59Microsoft Word it was the same boat as with Apple with would have done if the

0:22:05old CEO is still there but it does seem there but it does seem though that this

0:22:12is a bomber had to go for this type of thing like and makes you wonder how

0:22:23different Microsoft position in mobile might have been if they had known as ago

0:22:27right like what if they had done it in 2009 at least Friday west face it by 10

0:22:362009 Android wasn't good as a sip platform wasn't good enough for stuff

0:22:40like that at least for the iPhone they had done it then and then in 2010 when

0:22:49the iPad came out they would have already been on iOS and that could have

0:22:53you know if the iPad had debuted in a world where there's already a functional

0:22:59microsoft office we could have really changed their you know their status

0:23:07overall in the post-pc world really with so much because the office the office

0:23:14products are really tied into a way that people work as much as they used to be

0:23:21so much of our things that we produce are for the web and office after night

0:23:29applications not really used for production well for us that's true and I

0:23:35suspect it's true for a lot of the people who listen to like our shows but

0:23:40I might might test for what goes on in the real world is always the snooping I

0:23:44do and airports you know not snooping but you know looking over what it what's

0:23:49this guy you know as I go to the bathroom on the plane just look at what

0:23:52they do and I've noticed a lot of mentioned this before but I see it over

0:23:58and over again I noticed a lot of business people who you know just

0:24:02judging by their attire and judging by the fact that they've PCs and that a lot

0:24:08of times ICIC PowerPoint and Excel CIC laugh a lot of Excel and I also see a

0:24:14lot of Outlook email you know where windows look and then I see them like

0:24:23you know an hour and a half into the flight they fold up the laptop and then

0:24:28they take on an iPad I see it over and over and over

0:24:32right it's like they've got they want to you know they want to get caught up on

0:24:36their email or they're working on a thing and Excel and as soon as they're

0:24:42done with it then you know when it's time to relax they go to an iPad yeah

0:24:46sure they're not just popping the keyboard after service you know what

0:24:52it's funny I I can make fun of the surface but i've i've seen more and more

0:24:57of them in the AM it's no longer and Luke well I don't think of something

0:25:02great but it's not it's not close its I see more of them that I see people using

0:25:12Windows Phones and again maybe maybe it's just easier to notice because

0:25:17people if I see someone using the surface it's pretty easy to identify it

0:25:21as a surface and it's it's kind of hard to tell what phone somebody's using

0:25:26usually tell right from the back without seeing the screen you can usually tell

0:25:33iPhone or not i phone but if it's not iPhone who down those internet you can

0:25:38see the screen but on the other hand if you can't see the screen Windows Phone

0:25:42is so distinctive you I was I think it's pretty easy and I don't see many of them

0:25:48I see a lot more surface tablet

0:25:52see the whole thing where that election night

0:26:00paid to use services and then right just sorta like pretty much exactly like

0:26:06they've done with the NFL or two where everybody they've they've carpet bombed

0:26:13all the NFL studio teams you know let's go back have time is good here the

0:26:20halftime report and everybody in the studio has surfaced in front of them and

0:26:25CNN shots are you could tell that their their surfaces were weird being used my

0:26:32pet its first and everybody loves the kickstand right makes a great stand for

0:26:40I am really do mean this I i think is a good marketing move that's actually

0:26:44worse it was overall overall net effect of that campaign did was was actually

0:26:50worse cuz I think there were more people noticed you know who caught on to the

0:26:55you know they were actually propping up I'm mad tangle then who noticed you know

0:27:00from TV like hey it looks like a Microsoft Surface it's actually worse I

0:27:06think it actually hurts their their efforts because it makes it seem like

0:27:09their products a joke I'm actually in the market might be in the market for a

0:27:15PC cuz my son who likes to play games and has his most of his buddies for PC

0:27:23users he's got like this identification thing now he wants to get a PC

0:27:28and like some of the stuff is actually a little bit easier to manage because some

0:27:35of the IPC because

0:27:38the instant star their specific installers that are written for Windows

0:27:41instead of

0:27:43other clients and whether list

0:27:47America on the Mac and Linux so so the kids and it's a weird problem to have to

0:27:55be in this in that market because I can't figure out what I have no idea

0:28:00what to get

0:28:01late trying to find a laptop a Windows laptop that is we have with my with my

0:28:07Mac standard it's really difficult there's nothing of the same quality

0:28:14at least not in the same kind of price range most of the stuff is plastic and

0:28:20the higher end stuff like there's the razor blade is supposed to be a great

0:28:23gaming laptop PC but he wants a laptop

0:28:28yeah yeah well I think he should have a laptop yeah he likes to him and he was

0:28:33right and you know you'd like to take it with him when we travel and stuff like

0:28:39that so but the race starts at 1900 parks and I'm not gonna give you know

0:28:45he's going to spill like $1,800 $1,900 for start starting price for a razor

0:28:51blade nice-looking computer it's like it's like a black looks like I say that

0:28:58I just realized that I said that like I was totally offended I just believed I'd

0:29:02like $3500 on my MacBook Pro which I don't drink out because I know that it's

0:29:09an excellent machine and it's made of aluminum and that's an assist from Apple

0:29:14and its really nice and I just assumed that the nicest PC there is impossible I

0:29:20realized that there was a very pious man now I can totally don't like a 10 year

0:29:28old 1919 her laptop and then the other ones are the alien the Alienware gaming

0:29:35laptops but they start 11 like $1100 and another big clunky so it wouldn't you

0:29:45know this experiment is going to take or not you don't think though that when you

0:29:55reboot into Windows boot camp boot camp is not the solution

0:30:00well he needs a new machine cuz he's using an old old MacBook Pro 2010 and

0:30:08he's been he's been in a pretty well and the truth is I mean among you know what

0:30:16there's video editing i mean there's a few things that that work was really

0:30:20pushing machine these days but gaming there's always going to me as always I

0:30:26mean until the end of our lives it's going to you know there's never going to

0:30:28be a decrease in pushing the limits of computing you know any gain for your old

0:30:35computer in a game in ancient combine that with the fact that MacBooks aren't

0:30:41exactly known for being optimized for gaming in the first place winner brand

0:30:45new and you can really you know yeah I mean so I can get you know I could get

0:30:50$700 Lenovo that has a nice video card in it i mean it the thing is made out of

0:30:58plastic the outside is terrible but it comes with eight gigs of ram and it's

0:31:03got a good video card in it

0:31:04well let's come back to take a break because it ties into something else

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0:34:52thanks to Squarespace alright so to me that your your story about not knowing

0:34:59what what to get for hang for a PC is I feel the exact same way and I feel like

0:35:06it's just one of those it's it's a chasm between Apple people PC people that only

0:35:14widened over the years to me one of the great things about being all in on the

0:35:19Apple platform is that it's so easy to know what the best thing you know if I

0:35:24want the best iPad I know to get the iPad 2 and you know just decide which

0:35:30color I want whether I want cellular and you know how much storage unit it

0:35:35whereas if I want the best Android tablet who knows what it is like the

0:35:39best Windows gaming PC who knows

0:35:43yeah I mean there's some things said there are a few manufacturers that

0:35:48specialize in that kind of thing but you know you go to the nobles site too and I

0:35:54mean any kind of leaning towards Lenovo just because they've heard that they're

0:36:00OK is as opposed to some of the rest of them it seems like a lot of violence

0:36:03really had decreased quality over the years and a bunch of people going out of

0:36:08business people have bought and the dizzying array of options they are

0:36:16presented with four just laptops is on just Lenovo site is ridiculous and I

0:36:23can't make heads or tails any of this stuff and there's a section

0:36:27there is a it's like a matrix it's like a product matrix of different numbers

0:36:34and within those numbers they'll say what's good for homeland good ones could

0:36:38for giving one's good for business but I don't know but then you have to get

0:36:45through those numbers in life I mean either gaming is the only one that makes

0:36:52sense because gaming means it's going to have high-powered graphics if it if

0:36:57they're being honest in saying this one is good for gaming that it's got to be

0:37:00it means it's good good graphics or at least gaming optimized graphics because

0:37:06you know it's you know you could have like a Mac Pro my dad very powerful

0:37:13graphics but it's probably a more you know the drivers are more optimized

0:37:17towards professional applications than gaming whereas a gaming PC you know what

0:37:21i mean to me you know it's set up for all the stuff on Steam to be optimized

0:37:26dunno but what's the difference in a machine it's good for him and good for

0:37:30business I guess that home is mostly just considered email and web surfing

0:37:35and watching this I don't know and businesses businesses somebody else is

0:37:41paying for us so this is a more expensive computer see I don't know I

0:37:47kinda feel like it's such an artificial distinction that it dates back to the

0:37:51back to what we were talking with like word 506 like 1989 and 90 when like

0:37:58business would want like a networking card like it was a card that you

0:38:03actually had to install in the back of the computer so you can plug Ethernet or

0:38:06something like that and in Ethernet card was couple hundred bucks and it was

0:38:10expensive and there's no way you'd want that at home because nobody had eaten at

0:38:14all and so there where you know like physical differences between what you'd

0:38:20want the business environment in a home environment whereas the distinction is

0:38:25meaningless today I mean there's a reason why Apple doesn't have business

0:38:28vs home distinctions in any other products

0:38:32yeah right there's no business iPhone

0:38:35business you know how my phone and in fact it's the fact that they didn't do

0:38:40that and they don't have any such distinctions is what's driven this whole

0:38:44you know I think revolutionary bring your own device to work thing that's

0:38:50really gotten you know gaining momentum in like the biggest and most buttoned up

0:38:56corporate environment I really think that whole good better best thing that

0:39:02they did rounds 2009 that's not even started earlier in the wind up too late

0:39:122003 or something like that then they drop it was brilliant and I think they

0:39:18should I frankly think they should still do that I think they do internally but

0:39:22it's it's a little bit blurry r you know it's well and the other thing they did

0:39:30was they had good better and best but then had just had the simple four-way

0:39:34product matrix of pro not pro portable not portable and there was so there was

0:39:43the not pro portable was the iBook and the pro portable was the MacBook or i

0:39:49guess its powerbook then you know iMac was the night Pro desktop and the

0:39:55paramedic however now I was gonna say macro a PowerMac was the Pro desktop and

0:40:03then within each one was good better best yeah so it's a little bit more

0:40:07complicated now but not too much I don't really have no idea what to do next year

0:40:12the iPhone well shelf that lets cuz i think thats a deep conversation we

0:40:21should return to it but I don't think it's hard to go in and buy a Macbook

0:40:25today I think you know you know what would you rather do would you rather you

0:40:30know I think I would get more complex maybe more complex if the rumored retina

0:40:35MacBook Airs are coming as you know

0:40:39in the early months of next year which i think is probably true I think if the

0:40:44iMac has gone right now I think the MacBook Airs probably next and I think

0:40:49suddenly suddenly that becomes a little tougher decision to make but it's a

0:40:53transition right and if anything it's only going to steer more people towards

0:40:57spending a little less and getting the retina MacBook Air and set of the retina

0:41:03MacBook Pro 13 inch MacBook Pro you know which i think would save people money

0:41:09instead of making people pay more but it's still right now today though it's a

0:41:13very easy decision as I do you want the really nice machine and yet it's gonna

0:41:18be a little thicker and heavier or do you want the cheaper lighter one which

0:41:22is there it was pretty easy I know I'm getting my wife machine was actually

0:41:30relatively simple because she's gotta monitors on an external monitor so she

0:41:36didn't need a huge screen so ten-inch and definitely the air obviously and

0:41:44then it was just storage space and she got a fairly big iPhoto library so she

0:41:49knew she couldn't take though 28 gave her drugs and i was thinkin ok if you

0:41:57want to get a machine now it's really make sense to get a king's ransom for

0:42:00so that was it yeah yeah no other really know any other considerations whatsoever

0:42:10yeah and I'm not you know and I'm sure that on the flip side it's like what

0:42:13drives like this conversation of what how great it is that we don't have too

0:42:16many choices to make

0:42:18is exactly what drives PC sure PC fans knots and the think that Android fans

0:42:24right as I think they're the same people you know I think that you know that

0:42:29people who most liked the fact that they can configure the gym built can still

0:42:34build their own PCs for the desktop are the sort of people who think it's

0:42:39wonderful that there are so many Android phones

0:42:43to choose from my thing was that I'm seriously thinking about like in the

0:42:49next couple of weeks probably like maybe like maybe like for the month of

0:42:52december 2 tried you know I haven't done it in like two years is given greater

0:42:57shot try living for two weeks with an Android phone and so I asked around

0:43:03waiting for the next 60 ship which I almost certainly knew I wasn't going to

0:43:07want because it's so huge it came out in the reviews came out yesterday a lot of

0:43:14them are really really badly just to pull skis you know had pictures from it

0:43:19and the heat thinks that the cameras actually worse than last year's Nexus 5

0:43:23both of them are way worse than the iPhone camera it's a really shitty

0:43:28camera and that to me is a deal breaker right there but it's just basic question

0:43:35to twitter twitter followers is okay let's say I want to give Android

0:43:39lollipop the new 5.0 version of Android which I do think from the outside not

0:43:44having used it looks like the first one first version of Android ever that's

0:43:48pretty well designed right that's why I want to try it and I have no interest in

0:43:53trying Android four-point anything on any phone because I know that I don't

0:43:57like it I know I've used it I've spent enough time with 204 devices I know I

0:44:01don't like the design so it has to be 5.0 which which phone check and it's

0:44:07there's no clear like this is the best one to get yeah yeah more or less it

0:44:12comes down to the two most popular answers were the Nexus 5 which is the

0:44:16year old Nexus phone and the Moto X Moto X is more expensive cost me 500 bucks

0:44:24each sino HTC now because it hates PCs and made which did get some votes and

0:44:32most of the people who voted for it said it's easily the best build quality of

0:44:38any Android phone but all HTC has promised for the image is that it'll get

0:44:43lollipop within the next 90 days which probably means 89 days

0:44:49yeah I've talked about my Nexus 7 on the show before and it's it's the original

0:44:58one and so the other day because lollipop just came out well maybe I can

0:45:04see if I can get a lollipop on that device because it wasn't included in the

0:45:10in the beta program originally was traded back in the summer and it was not

0:45:15one of the devices that you could install the early release on and and and

0:45:21still there is no release for that device and how old is that which was

0:45:25very confusing so that's where that came out two years ago

0:45:31two and a half years ago because it came out the summer before the many and it's

0:45:44just it's just a little odd to me that lollipop is quote out but it's not they

0:45:49haven't created an apparently they're going to create a build for it but they

0:45:52haven't done no good at stuff like that let's you know it's from Google to

0:45:58Google

0:46:00cool device they're not that I my broad impression Google overall I was talking

0:46:10about this the other day but that it's like one of those outages and I know

0:46:16it's you know it's obviously not mathematically true but you know the

0:46:21first ninety percent of the effort takes have your time and the other 10% takes

0:46:27the other 90% of your time

0:46:28yeah it's that last 10% always is is not really 10% to really more like half

0:46:36of anything any big project and Google is really bad going into that you know

0:46:44and to me that like that like the hard part and for all the grapes people have

0:46:48about you know like iowa new versions of iOS running poorly on the oldest

0:46:54supported phones tab or iPad at least they do run and it's a lot more effort

0:47:01to make that happen then I think people give it credit for

0:47:05yeah and you know Google just punch on all that usually I mean I'd see or

0:47:10Android pretty much every day every year like they've never really had a really

0:47:15good sport even for their Nexus devices more than a year old

0:47:19yeah because it's hard it's really really hard and they just don't even try

0:47:25but the consensus seems to be that if I want the best like the state of the art

0:47:31and great experience today

0:47:33get a Moto X the new moto acts as they kept the name is Amy routier it's

0:47:41interesting and everybody seems to agree with it to the consensus is that the

0:47:47best build quality too good keynote competitive camera and Motorola's

0:47:56extension it's not just a pure you know like the way that the Nexus has the pure

0:48:01Google Android experience like Android 5.0 with nothing you know unadulterated

0:48:06moto axes version is pretty close to stock and the only thing they really do

0:48:14is they had their own applications says system apps he can't delete but they

0:48:18don't change the system itself you know like the notification center looks like

0:48:23the pure Android notification center you know stuff yeah it's a lot more it's

0:48:29it's really really close to stock Android with a few Motorola sprinkles as

0:48:34opposed to the HTC and

0:48:36and Samsung Wave sort of getting in at the system level and I would love to

0:48:42treasure me I would too I don't know how you can get your hands on either from

0:48:49what I've read I suspect that while it would be fun to use its probably crappy

0:48:54enough that you would want to blow a couple hundred bucks on it because you

0:48:57know what I love to see what the users p.m. what the what the software's like

0:49:02substantially different from the looks of it yet very very custom yeah I don't

0:49:13know what's going to having people keep talking about all accounts because jimmy

0:49:16is going worldwide now and I don't know what's gonna happen if they come the

0:49:21United States I don't think yeah I don't think they ever will come to any I don't

0:49:27think they're ever going to come to a country with strong IP o's rain I really

0:49:31done they're gonna stick I think they can they can grow they have a lot of

0:49:36room to grow just staying in Asian countries where there is the way that

0:49:42they operate in a way that they so shamelessly copied stuff that I just

0:49:45don't see how they're gonna just don't see how they could do it

0:49:50yeah I wouldn't think that I will be there five minutes before they get

0:49:55slapped with a suit well and let's come back when we come back let's talk about

0:50:04your thing before about the Apple do with the iPhone next year

0:50:09ok so remember that but I'll take a break here

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0:55:31I can look at is as hard now so next year's iPhones I had a lot of people

0:55:36talking about this is what we're gonna do with the four in size

0:55:42thinking yeah because I see a lot of a lot of people have been publishing their

0:55:48whatever like months months with the iPhone 6 plus or minus with the iPhone 6

0:55:53every since early like him I like the device

0:55:57well enough about a six and but but I mostly what was that like about it is

0:56:03the extra features as opposed to the larger screen if I could I would

0:56:08actually go back to the Florange I would too I in fact I did it for two weeks I

0:56:14went back just to see you know what I thought I actually took my sim card out

0:56:18and went back to my 5s for 24 weeks and really liked it but ultimately went back

0:56:27to the six because I can definitely tell I can absolutely Pepsi challenge the

0:56:33superior photos especially indoors possible that outdoors in sunlight I

0:56:39couldn't Pepsi challenge the photos but indoors I can definitely do it so much

0:56:44less noise and brighter writer exposures and really low light on the sex that

0:56:53it's that alone almost makes it seals the deal I also can tell and this is

0:57:00something I didn't like when I wrote my review of it that I didn't notice and

0:57:03it's a sort of thing that it why I wish that I could always take six weeks to

0:57:07rate these reviews like a used to before I got the review unit as opposed to

0:57:11doing it in like one week but I can the first week with it the two new phones I

0:57:15noticed that the screens are nice but I didn't notice that they were actually

0:57:18nicer than the 5s like ya later and there's that whole that the big thing I

0:57:26was obsessed with the first week was the increase in pixels per inch on the six

0:57:30place that they went to this 1920 by 1080 resolution runs it three acts right

0:57:40now but on the fly they scale it down to like this weird 2.7 X scaling factor and

0:57:47I spent the whole week like you know take my glasses on taking them off

0:57:51squinting real close trying to see if I could see you know the scaling and AM

0:57:56excited and it really the six plus really does look nicer to me like you

0:57:59get really close to it and text looks better because there's more pixels per

0:58:03inch even though they're scaling and it's not true three acts it really does

0:58:06look better than two acts and the regular 6 has the same 326 pixels per

0:58:12inch as the five ass i didnt notice in the first week with the phone cuz I was

0:58:16obsessed with just the pixels per inch and their six had the same pixels per

0:58:19inch for the 5s and I didn't really bother looking at it too much but now lo

0:58:23these almost what two months later and with me having gone back to the 5s for

0:58:29two weeks and now back to the sex I can really noticed that the six you know the

0:58:36fact that had the same pixels per inch side is so much as a really nice

0:58:39improvement to the screen and it and know that they talked about the fact

0:58:43that they added a polarizing filter or a new polarizing filter so it looks better

0:58:47with polarized sunglasses but I think something to do with that

0:58:52also the screen is even closer to the glass than before it's even know that I

0:58:59raved about it endlessly when they first went right now with the iPhone 4 that it

0:59:04really looked like the the pixels are closer to the glass but now it's so much

0:59:08closer to that it makes like my iPhone 5 look like the screen is too far behind

0:59:12the glass and it even makes all of my iPad everything I look at other phone

0:59:17look like the pixels are 22

0:59:18glass and that's really nice but bottom line is it's all about the field in my

0:59:25hand and I like the four-inch feel in my hand I do I use my phone so much of the

0:59:30time they use my phone I really only have one hand rates it's just a

0:59:36humongous issue I can I can't bring myself to get into region bility to use

0:59:42reach ability you know even though my complaint is about not being able to

0:59:47reach staff at the top with my grip it never occurs to me

0:59:52gently Palma right and I have no there's no support at the bottom and I'm

0:59:58reaching across the phone to get to the corner doing it right now which is where

1:00:03my mouth is turning away from the microphone but and then just i know im

1:00:06gonna drop it at some point because it's not a secure hold but reach ability to

1:00:12get there but it doesn't often doesn't fire for me on the first try and so then

1:00:20I'm doing this extra thing that he didn't used to have to do and sometimes

1:00:24it's not working and it's not it's not solving the problem for me

1:00:31definitely I just never occurred to me to use it it's it's part of what I love

1:00:37about iOS is even more than Mac OS 10 to me the system makes such a coherent

1:00:45sense the design of the way that you go in and out about and navigate within and

1:00:50it's like I'm in just whenever I'm using my iPhone I'm just in a certain mental

1:00:55zone and it using reach ability takes me out of that you know because it's not on

1:01:00screen like part of what to me the magic of iOS is that everything is on the

1:01:08screen

1:01:08anything you can do something you can see on the screen and that's a profound

1:01:15decrease in abstraction like that's why I think that the like the hardware back

1:01:27button that Android use even though they draw it on screen now on most phones

1:01:31but the fact that it outside the rules of the system it just never occurs to me

1:01:37and I find it hard to remember that that's you know that the only thing you

1:01:44ever have to do an IRS that's that's hardware related is hit the home button

1:01:49software allows you know and then there's things like volume but their

1:01:53value makes sense that hardware because it's it's not the software you're

1:01:57manipulating its what they actually make sense it's hard workers it's the device

1:02:00that emits the sound and using readability just takes me outside that

1:02:06it feels like it's not on the screen

1:02:10you know if if if somehow I could just swipe my thumb down and the phone would

1:02:16magically know that I'm swiping down to read something I'd probably use it all

1:02:19the time but there is of course no way the phone could read your mind know that

1:02:23you're sweating reachability as opposed to yeah you know if it could go read

1:02:31your mind in theory I mean I know that I'm just saying I would use it all the

1:02:36time I would I would just drag the screen down in you know that the hit the

1:02:40back button but it's a big issue for me I also really really don't like the size

1:02:46of it in my jeans and I keep sexually I really don't notice the difference there

1:02:52I definitely do I think part of it too is that when I read my review in

1:02:56September I was still somewhat shorts weather I might have spent more time

1:03:00with shorts I don't know but that's why I keep I keep targeting the mute switch

1:03:07as I take it in and out of my jeans I also I just don't like it I even like

1:03:15the flat side of the iPhone 5s I kinda like that but I also kinda like the new

1:03:2112 I mean I love the feel like the Smithfield to check that one up to

1:03:26a wash because if there were in the area 4.05% 6 that had this shape I wouldn't

1:03:36be complaining yeah I wouldn't either but I do think my thing is that I

1:03:41noticed after switching back to the 5s for two weeks that it the flat sides

1:03:46make for a nicer iPhone as camera to take a picture it feels more natural in

1:03:54my hands to have my fingers pinching flat side but I'll call it a wash it

1:04:00overall though how easy it is to reach everything with holding the phone in one

1:04:03hand and how big it is in my pocket and it sometimes it seems like so so

1:04:09our friend never morgan's game came out last night

1:04:12space age and downloaded that and you know it's nice having a larger screen

1:04:20play game but I don't think to me it's not enough it's not know I have a night

1:04:27at it it's not nice enough on the phone to make the difference for me no

1:04:33question when you're using it it's you know there are certainly reasons to to

1:04:37prefer bigger screen i mean i i i watch most most of the day in the summer when

1:04:42baseball seasons in and i watch seriously i watch you know I don't know

1:04:46over a hundred yankee games a year the ones I don't watch on TV I usually watch

1:04:50on my iPad but I wound up just for convenience sake sometimes watching them

1:04:55on my phone and obviously watching something that's the equivalent of TV

1:04:59like a ballgame the bigger the screen the better you know even the six places

1:05:02better you know but that's to me isn't important enough to optimize which phone

1:05:08i get if there were a 4.0 inch iPhone 6 3rd size zero hesitation a hundred

1:05:16percent certainty that's the one I would have bought yeah well I think I mean at

1:05:21this point I wanted to try it

1:05:22try to bigger size and see if I liked it better but I've come to the conclusion

1:05:26that they don't it's not even if it is your decision than almost any other in

1:05:33the Apple product line no hesitation I think the iPhone 6 is I don't and I

1:05:38here's the big here's the thing that I think its loss in this is that people

1:05:41who'd love big phones and I know that they'd really do there are people who

1:05:47love the five to six plus you know for whatever reason they seemed to as a

1:05:55group to lump them all together they seem to think just unilaterally big

1:06:01phones are better and you know now that now that the iPhone has bigger screens

1:06:05iPhone users will see what they've been missing out on some years

1:06:08everybody will see it and we'll get to appreciate it I don't doubt that the

1:06:13right but I do I really do think though that there are you know I'm certain now

1:06:18having used it for this but having gone back that you know it's the scale of

1:06:23form factors that people want in phones definitely goes beneath four point seven

1:06:31inches for you know my my my short version is not that the iPhone 6 is too

1:06:37big it's that it's too big to be the smallest iPhone did I not that I'm

1:06:45doubting that there are some people who loved the size and that it's perfect for

1:06:48them so what are they gonna do next year

1:06:51yeah I don't know if they don't update the that the four inch form factor

1:07:01though what I hope they do is is expand the top of the line you know which would

1:07:09be next year I would expect in a nine system-on-a-chip and you know and even

1:07:15better camera I would say well I hope they do is expand to three sizes in a

1:07:21day or whatever they call it you know if it's may I don't know if they're going

1:07:26to stick with this thing where they seems you know if next year's 4.7 inch

1:07:32is the exact same physical sizes and they call it the success and they called

1:07:36the other one the success + and they fit the same cases and maybe they just

1:07:41update the colors of them at all to show that the new ones and introduce I don't

1:07:47know I found six air call it the iPhone 6 share and make it the orange size

1:07:55with like I said what I would hope for is they would have their own and the new

1:08:00camera and all that but oh well I think I'll have a bullpen matter what what i

1:08:07think is more likely is that they would make it do it's sort of like they did

1:08:13the five-seat two years ago and that the for it this is what I think is more

1:08:18likely that the foreign size there will be a new phone but it'll be like the

1:08:24five-seat might be even be plastic and would have the internal specs of these

1:08:33phones this a a 8049

1:08:40and the camera from this phone and it would be $100 lower starting price than

1:08:47the success yeah that sounds more likely to me I think it's way more likely

1:08:51because I think they have to they can't prices they can't make yeah I think you

1:08:57know the screen size alone isn't enough for up to $100 difference right you know

1:09:03that it would be eating into their profit margins too much you know that

1:09:09you know they can't justify it wouldn't cost $100 less to do it so I think it'd

1:09:14be more likely that it would be like the six see the iPhone 6 see and it would be

1:09:20four inches but it would be a year behind on the specs to me the plastic

1:09:24seems to belong at the bottom line no because what happens then I mean you

1:09:27can't you can't then take the 5s and move it down to the free model and have

1:09:32a plastic on the screen sizes the same that's what they did with the pipe they

1:09:40had 24 s 125 C came out at the bottom but that was a different screen size

1:09:49and it doesn't seem like they can push down i mean maybe they could just make a

1:09:53new 25 C so then the bottom two would be both plastic yeah something like that I

1:10:03don't know but that's what I worry that they're going to do and then I worry

1:10:07that on the CPU side I would I probably would just prefer size alone and I'll

1:10:18take the year olds CPU specs and get the small but I very much worried that the

1:10:27camera in next year's iPhone will be so much better again than this year's that

1:10:32yeah even though I'm so impressed this year with this camera I think next

1:10:36year's cameras gonna be so much better that I won't be stuck getting the four

1:10:40point seven in 2010 for the camera even I would take the aid the year old aid

1:10:45because I don't really play a lot of games and stuff like that and it's you

1:10:49know I don't know that that getting an improved a nine would mean that much to

1:10:53me but the camera would I mention this a few episodes ago

1:11:02firm thing about it but I heard a rumor of a rumor from a birdie who knows a

1:11:08party like a distant but that number one it's it's not looking at every single

1:11:14year the cameras gotten better on the iPhone I think except for the first

1:11:18except for the 3G did in 2008 iPhone had the same camera as the original 2007

1:11:26like still didn't shoot video still was really ever since the 3ds every single

1:11:34year the guy from camera has gotten noticeably better like enough better

1:11:38than it was at the camera alone was tempting to be the reason that you

1:11:43upgrade every single year

1:11:45at least if you care about photography and it's so there's no reason to think

1:11:50that's going to stop anyway but that the specific thing I heard is that their

1:11:53next year's camera might be like the biggest camera jump ever that they've

1:11:58got like really yeah that is I don't even know it since this makes but that

1:12:04I've heard that it's it's some kind of weird to lens system like the back

1:12:07camera uses two lenses and I don't know somehow that it takes it up and sell our

1:12:14quality imagery I don't know that well and in some ways that and that's what

1:12:20I've heard but it it can't really mean SLO our quality caused a lot of what

1:12:24makes SLR or and in the digital age for Thirds cameras which are an SLR but you

1:12:31know what it means is big center and a lot of what makes a big cameras with big

1:12:36sensors have better imagery is is physics you know there's risks involved

1:12:42and have to do but that there's something they could do with two lenses

1:12:48I don't just makes the photos if not a technical level SLR quality but at a

1:12:54practical level for consumers taking pictures you know closer to sell ours I

1:13:01don't know but that it's a big enough jump that anybody who cares about the

1:13:04photographer e even if you really want a foreign phone again you're gonna get the

1:13:094.7 yeah I feel like the last two cameras have been plenty of camera for

1:13:15me I'm not as big a camera but as you are and for years it did seem like you

1:13:20ok ok I'm basically taking pictures with this because it's the one that's in my

1:13:26pocket and I don't I don't be like that anymore like it's it's practically

1:13:31speaking caught up to almost everything that I need now is they've gotten so

1:13:36good it's time you know and I'm a guy is you know every every couple of years not

1:13:42every year like every couple years I'll drop $800,000 I really do care about

1:13:48some of that stuff and I really I could just see looking at

1:13:51my you know like my Lightroom archive that every year it's more and more or

1:13:57less and less photos shot with anything other than the iPhone it's always it

1:14:04just gets more and more evenly on vacation and I have the camera camera

1:14:08camera with me and it's like an affiliate look around my neck I just

1:14:11what I do I think I think the cameras when it's going to come down to four me

1:14:17next year unless they do what I really really hope they do is you know but

1:14:22three phones at the top of the would-be when I would love to but I don't think

1:14:27they will agree but I still think I would probably like I would probably go

1:14:32back to stick with the relatively same internals is this phone

1:14:37four-inch screen yeah I think if the camera isn't vastly improved if it's you

1:14:44know i i would be very tempted just to get that from I noticed two in here the

1:14:50other anecdotal thing is like two or three weeks ago there was a little small

1:14:54indeed a conference here in Philly coca love I don't speak out about how I went

1:15:01to it and you know

1:15:02hundred and fifty yards while Estevan you know some friends marco was here

1:15:10Dave Dave Wilkinson

1:15:12here but I mean I met a lot of new people to really get out much so even

1:15:17though the leaving the local people a lot of them are new to me and people

1:15:23notice it was that was occurred during that two-week stretch where I went back

1:15:27to my 5s and a lot of people noticed that I was using a 5s and specific they

1:15:31asked and every almost every single person who I talk to about it was like

1:15:37nodding their head in agreement that i've you know and they have a lot of

1:15:41there are people who had this 626 + and all we're thinking the same thing that I

1:15:47love so much about this newfound except that it's bigger yeah

1:15:52so there's definitely and it's not just you and I are not outliers like we may

1:15:56not be the majority like the the split across the product line may not be

1:16:02one-third one-third one-third of they did this but I think that it's I think

1:16:06it's may be close to at least a quarter of people would prefer the foreign size

1:16:09yeah I think so too I mean I talk to me it seems like most of the people that

1:16:14are too

1:16:15actually yes I got a friend who who has signed up in size pants and so he got

1:16:23his six-plus and he feels like he's home is even though he had a for which was

1:16:27waiting you know thinking they're going to make a new they're gonna make one

1:16:31it's better to wait for that and so we got six plus when I came out it's

1:16:37perfect for him but our neighbor of the street was talking before the phone

1:16:43these phones came out she said she said it's gonna be bigger only like I'm

1:16:48getting my mom is on the 3ds keep saying when you get a new phone you need to get

1:16:57a new phone software updates anymore and and then it was like ok well if I can

1:17:03get a huge phone so I guess you should get the five pass and my wife same

1:17:14things like that but the phone is so all the people I know who were in the market

1:17:21right now are not terribly excited about the larger form factor I you know and I

1:17:28think it's I think it's a complicated product marketing problem you know where

1:17:35I think part of it clearly there are people out of sight I mean I know this

1:17:41that there are people who love like your big handed friend who love the six plus

1:17:45and I know that there are people with tiny hands who love the six plus you

1:17:49know there are human and I know you know talking Ben Thompson huge every every

1:17:54woman in Asia yeah

1:17:56has a big dyke phablet size six inch phone and they were all all of them

1:18:02wanted an iPhone we're all waiting for the six plus and and you know it's

1:18:06almost like for some of the people who like to women with really small and that

1:18:10they couldn't use the iPhone for one-handed either so the whole

1:18:12one-handed thing wasn't an issue anyway so you might as well get a bit so I know

1:18:16that it's not just an issue not just appealing to people with large hands

1:18:20it's you know it's across the board

1:18:22some people just use their phone to handle all the time if so why not get

1:18:27the biggest one but it's not just nerdy others I just me like Amy who uses her

1:18:34iPhone very differently from me she's nowhere near she's not on anywhere near

1:18:38as much as I am but she she doesn't like the six eyes either she thinks it's

1:18:43ridiculous she really can't believe that there's a bigger size it's pretty

1:18:50astounding yeah well it you know it's funny it's funny cuz I even had one as a

1:19:00review unit and they use it for a week but at the colo conference you know and

1:19:05everybody had i phone every item out of the time and there were people of course

1:19:08not just the people who you know who are not in agreement with me that the six is

1:19:12too big but there are of course other people who had the six plus you see them

1:19:15with it

1:19:16wow yeah yeah I gotta get my 44 sitting here just feels really good I do I love

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1:23:46about you are saying about having to use word yeah that's what i was gonna ask

1:23:51about that here so here's the deal you have you ever read the book before know

1:23:56so you've written your first book we're part of my first base co-authored and

1:24:03two other final Thurs James Clark and Corey dustman and we have written the

1:24:10visual guide to to mine craft's for peach pit press our good friends at

1:24:15Peachpit press and it's getting started book for four people who were interested

1:24:23in getting into Minecraft or interested in learning more about some things like

1:24:28how to build houses how to use redstone redstone is really an amazing things you

1:24:35haven't gotten into red zone and in my craft and there's a good section on how

1:24:40to use redstone you're laughing because he died laughing cuz I don't know what I

1:24:43think I think redstone is the stuff that joan is called me over one day and he

1:24:48said here watch this and the had a thing and he pulled a lever and then a fuse

1:24:54left led off and confused burned and then he had like a fireworks show

1:24:58ready to go he was probably there's probably some red Sony anything using a

1:25:03lever is probably done anything great the cool thing about it is it it kind of

1:25:08teaches kids teaches it's like it's almost like programming because their

1:25:14gates so you can set up a series of different gates and by using these kids

1:25:18you're basically using its basically the same fundamental theory that is inside

1:25:25every computer logic

1:25:27you know and you know one day came came to me was like I saw this thing on as

1:25:37usual and YouTube and somebody made a an elevator in Minecraft using red zone is

1:25:44like I want to make this thing but I can't figure out which is mostly YouTube

1:25:49videos are created by a lot of them are worried about fourteen year olds or you

1:25:56know people who don't necessarily have the best video production skills and and

1:26:02presentation skills and this guy was better than most but he also got halfway

1:26:07through something up in just likes to try to correct it on the fly so it was

1:26:13pretty aggravating for me having to put this but we got through it we got it

1:26:17done and some of that stuff is in the book my section is the guy got the

1:26:23beginning section which is how to basic game installation and using the

1:26:29interface and then also surviving surviving your first day which if your

1:26:35first for me it was like the the hard part getting into the game was like ok

1:26:40you just get dropped in this world and there are no instructions really

1:26:42whatsoever and it's what am I supposed to do around here what what's Mike with

1:26:49my goal here so I talked about that and then do some basic introduction and like

1:26:55and how to setup a server that section and how to install mods

1:27:00your section is also available as its own stand-alone book yeah all of the

1:27:04section of them are so you know if you go so you can go to be present a common

1:27:10looking like a visual guide to Minecraft and you can get any other sections

1:27:16separately as e-books get the book and we're also doing some video stuff that

1:27:23goes along with that so you buy the books you'll get access to that once

1:27:28it's available via so that's why you bad mouth the 14 year olds who make the

1:27:34you're saying you're saying that the video that accompanied the visual guide

1:27:39to Minecraft are they don't get halfway through and realized that they hadn't

1:27:44set up the right yeah that's right that's right in fact they made me do

1:27:48over some they did a good sign which was so we talked about like computer

1:27:57performance gaming performance on laptops and so I have my regular machine

1:28:03is a 2012 managed care with four megabytes of RAM megabytes EF four

1:28:12megabytes of RAM especially around it's a 1991 little things that you get doc

1:28:22into the hell yeah anyway and I had done some screen capture stuff before

1:28:32ok that's a problem but when you're but it's one thing to do a screen capture

1:28:36stuff of just like web browsing or moving files around in the Finder when

1:28:41you're playing a game and you're also running screen capture you know like a

1:28:44fairly processor intensive games like Minecraft and also trying to run screen

1:28:48capture software it's a problem so the fan was going

1:28:53things are slowing down it and it was it was not working right so I actually had

1:28:57to get banks MacBook Pro has eight gigs of ram and that was the most powerful

1:29:04the most RAM that we had in the house I had to borrow hangs thanks MacBook Pro

1:29:09to actually do the video production for the same how did you get started on this

1:29:16like how did who who is a dummy like me who's been blabbering on the show for

1:29:24months now about being not understand what the hell minecraft is this is why I

1:29:27just started the book I got it last night but it seems to me like at the

1:29:31very least it's going to answer the basic question of what the hell's going

1:29:33on right which is really what I want so I cannot tell you how happy I am

1:29:38this book I i honestly I like the the book of the year for me because i it it

1:29:46is a major part of my life this game because you know I love my son and I'm

1:29:52really errant yeah and I'm really it's like the first time he's really gotten

1:29:56into something computer

1:29:56into something computer

1:30:00he's more into Minecraft anything else is everybody and I want to be a part of

1:30:04that and I almost feel like I feel like I'm the dad who never played sports in

1:30:09my kid wants to play baseball and now you're telling me that you gotta run

1:30:12around these baby I don't even understand you know that's how I feel

1:30:15about Minecraft yeah yeah like the dad who grew up in England and therefore

1:30:20never never heard of baseball you know and now I live in the united states and

1:30:23like it wants to rain

1:30:25yes I did you how did you get involved at this so he admits he says he's got a

1:30:29buddy who got him into Minecraft you know just like a microchip in my car so

1:30:34so he starred play minecraft like couple of years ago now I think and you know

1:30:40and I same thing I just like watched it from afar and then thought they should

1:30:45you know he was looking for someone else to play with and so it's ok I'll start

1:30:48playing but then I had that you know that reaction like that first like I

1:30:51don't know what the heck I'm doing so actually watched a YouTube video that

1:30:55said here's what you should try and do on your first day and and then it we

1:31:02played it for you played it for at least a few months I played it for a year and

1:31:07a half or something like that and last spring I wrote that article for the

1:31:14magazine about right during the base of the moguls of Minecraft YouTube world

1:31:21about a guy stampede diamond mine cart and other people who were making

1:31:29ridiculous amounts of money doing these videos is let's play videos of Minecraft

1:31:34on YouTube

1:31:36trying to get to the edge of the universe I don't know I remember the

1:31:39guys name but yeah just like there's just there's so many people who are

1:31:45making minecraft some of these guys make make very good money doing it and just

1:31:52from the YouTube just from the Utah

1:31:56disorder guide stampede

1:32:00members named after my head just just a carrot

1:32:03he Financial Times was trying to figure out how much he made and they estimated

1:32:11it grosses between 80,000 and eight hundred thousand dollars a month during

1:32:18these videos and Google takes the kind of attitude like 45 percent and then his

1:32:26network that he works with the does promotion for him takes account of that

1:32:31so he's not he's not letting that but still but his operation as an operation

1:32:36between thirty thousand three hundred thousand dollars a month

1:32:40Google takes up much importantly I guess I can something like that I mean range

1:32:5030% seems like the gentleman's cap

1:32:53like you know me like everybody can complain that Apple takes 30% and I know

1:32:59amazon has some things are they take thirty seems like 30 percent is the

1:33:02gentleman's cap for slicing off a top of every dollar that comes through your

1:33:09corporate thing anything more than that seems a little yeah but anyway so cliff

1:33:17colby who is a guy who works at

1:33:20and I have known him for years and we talked two years ago when I was writing

1:33:25crazy rumors we talked about doing a book but I could never get my act

1:33:28together and can figure out what the heck to rate and so who saw that article

1:33:32he's like hey you know I think we should do in Minecraft book and get some other

1:33:37people to do some different sections and be relatively easy to put together so

1:33:42let's do it so he's the one we talked to WWDC when I was down there

1:33:48Francisco which is where there were people is based hands basically wrote it

1:33:56over the summer and into the fall and the video production how big how big is

1:34:02your section I think my sections about forty plus pages forty to fifty pages

1:34:10something like that so it's not not huge no no it's not huge

1:34:16but it takes time so it's an interesting it's an interesting process and all of

1:34:20it you know all of it in Word was not i wud that's one of many more men are used

1:34:28to be ok but they do these people book production companies they they really

1:34:35know all in all not just well we need we just need to agree on a file format that

1:34:43we all can read it's because they're change tracking yeah it's mostly I think

1:34:48the promise the biggest thing is the train change tracking and then after

1:34:52that its formatting stuff I don't because they have all these so they have

1:34:57alter their templates built into Word already so they provided me a template

1:35:04and I typed into the template and then you know I would use they had macros

1:35:11that would do

1:35:12formatting stuff so yeah it's a part serious but I'm curious because I am a

1:35:21writer I have written a lot I think I did a word count exported everything

1:35:29from during fireball before xoxo I didn't actually include this in my talk

1:35:33but caused by talking xoxo was about what it's like to have written during

1:35:36fireball you know how I built it into a business and 12 years or whatever but I

1:35:42was curious cuz Jim could I asked me a couple months ago how much have you

1:35:46written by never counted before so I wrote a script exported everything from

1:35:50the linked list and from my articles and I wrote a script that cut out all of the

1:35:55block quoted material so the blockquote didn't count and it was remarkably even

1:36:01there was a little bit over nine hundred thousand words for both linked list

1:36:05entries in my column entries

1:36:09so it's you know close to looks like maybe like within the next year I'll

1:36:14crossed like the two million words sounds like a lot of words that's a lot

1:36:19of that is a lot of words it really does its own sounds like about it right and

1:36:26the basic I i've Google this many times but the books obviously very great with

1:36:31greatly in length but like the typical length of the book is somewhere around

1:36:35like sixty to eighty thousand words you know or something like that so it's you

1:36:42know like the equivalent of a lot of bucks but but I've never written I've

1:36:47never written anything in my life that's more than maybe four thousand words and

1:36:51I don't know that I can I call you when I was younger I used to think eventually

1:36:55you have to write a book that's if you want to be a writer you gotta gotta read

1:37:00a book but you know I don't know I'm getting pretty old and I haven't written

1:37:04it's really just a min particularly for something like this it's it's just them

1:37:09it's like you're writing a series of articles I wrote a different number of

1:37:15different sections different topics and so each one was its own little thing I

1:37:21also think that I don't want to be too much like the princess and the pea but I

1:37:25don't know that I could bring myself to working with word a real estate and that

1:37:32sounds so my struggles with my hardware of the video production part which is

1:37:36really just my own fault the the word partisan I you know I'm so picky about

1:37:43what I write that I invented a thing that people use I invented markdown

1:37:47specifically because I wasn't happy with what happened before that can imagine

1:37:51writing anything long form not marked it seems like writing and mark down then

1:37:56going into moving in the world would be such a huge pain in the ass

1:38:01it is I tried that at first because once you do it right and it doesn't work

1:38:05because once you have to make edits you can't go back

1:38:13that's actually you know

1:38:14to go back 10 years because I think I think this fall is the 10 year

1:38:20anniversary of markdown 1.0 but the public beta came out in February so

1:38:25we're past 10 years of public marked down but before markdown was marked down

1:38:31it was it was a series of filters I had in BBEdit that we're like one way like I

1:38:42would start by writing marked down like a very prototypical early version of

1:38:46mark down that was mostly just like automatically putting paragraph tags in

1:38:50between blank lines and tell you know asterisks Retalix and some kind of

1:38:57shorthand for links so I would write that way and then I would run my name

1:39:03for it but I would run the script and it would turn it into HTML copy and paste

1:39:08the HTML into movable type but that grew it didn't last long because I would

1:39:15think I was done with the article but then thought of something new I want to

1:39:20go back but it's too late now had already need to Malin I'm stuck writing

1:39:24HTML which is the whole reason I started writing the script in the first place to

1:39:27let me use asterisks and stuff like that and even worse and worse to do it with

1:39:33something that's rich text like yeah where'd ya and I know their pricing

1:39:39there is there some tools out there trying to help you with that process but

1:39:42yeah I gave up and when I had actually started writing in BBEdit with mark down

1:39:51and then when I got to the point where I went I went to move the first section

1:39:56into work I was like ok but if you write your own book you wouldn't have to use

1:40:05right right I don't have to do you know go to someone like Peter patent use

1:40:10their existing process I mean I'm sure that there's obviously a way that I

1:40:13could I get to self-publish my own book at this point

1:40:15I can do pretty well but I mean I would be surprised if David sparks actually

1:40:18written word yeah I should talk to it would actually almost be hypocritical

1:40:28since he's you know he's written a really really good

1:40:32markdown book he uses iBooks Author has recently

1:40:41so what would be the point I should there be no point going forward I

1:40:47wouldn't be surprised I did read his book and it's XIO David sparks Martin

1:40:51book in this show notes but trying to bulk up the show notes I've noticed that

1:40:57a lot of the podcast alike have these copious show notes that are you know

1:41:01that's my value add to the soup I guess then I'm on and i i suffer from podcast

1:41:07Tunisia Susan done recording a podcast I don't even remember what they talked

1:41:11about all I have to listen to it again that's the only way to do it right but

1:41:18I'll try but only to me but i wouldnt be surprised I did read his book The maybe

1:41:21a vague recollection and maybe even included something about how he wrote

1:41:25the book in his production you know yeah and the other person who might notice

1:41:32serenity Caldwell she has very well versed in public I think she knows more

1:41:39about it than anybody who's anybody knows more than serenity I'd like to

1:41:45meet them

1:41:46yeah I remember her her singleton talk from two years ago about the

1:41:50nitty-gritty details of trying to write trying to create an ebook just for like

1:41:55just for like and candles Moby and it was like oh my god what a nightmare

1:42:04yeah it was bad back in the days of special case

1:42:09Internet Explorer and Netscape it's like magic if one uses HTML and one doesn't

1:42:17so anyway anyway I use word right well I've used word by my license now elapsed

1:42:28since I'm writing I don't know that it's later I'll get the license again I don't

1:42:35even know bird looks like these days is it is it the case that does everybody

1:42:38Peachpit Newsmax doesn't matter is it is it is like word at a state where they

1:42:43all use Macs I don't we were so few people that I work with the Peach Pit

1:42:49work left who was really basically putting the deal together you know

1:42:56bringing the people together and then we had sort of a project manager who i

1:42:58think is actually not a peach pit employee someone that they contract with

1:43:05so I'm pretty sure she did not use a Mac but I think class uses a Mac so I don't

1:43:14think it's that they're probably but it's a mixed environment I think I would

1:43:19think that most of the I don't know I don't know actually it seems like a lot

1:43:25of this stuff must end up going to Adobe at some point rate gas I would guess

1:43:33that the book is probably actually laid out with InDesign yeah the print book I

1:43:38don't know it just seemed its but they are you know the other thing I mentioned

1:43:43while we're promoting the book if you go to Peachpit to buy your book they have a

1:43:48really sweet deal where you can get the print version

1:43:53package of ebooks epub which works and I books mobi which work on any of your

1:44:02candles rapper your actual Kindle device and a PDF and they're they're not like

1:44:10DRM during like that they just put a watermark on it that you know is

1:44:13registered to your name so that you know if you share it you would be you

1:44:17wouldn't be tempted to share it publicly publicly shamed

1:44:20well probably taken to prison but which is to me that the best way to do he

1:44:28books you know I know there's other companies like O'Reilly that do that and

1:44:31I know that our friends it take control folks you know that they days then there

1:44:37you know their brains are all cross platform in and no DRM and stuff but

1:44:41that's the best deal in my opinion 2159 $21.59 and you get it all in which is a

1:44:50really good deal and just to be clear we wrap it up that when you go to go to

1:44:54like the iBookstore and search for multi minecraft two books show up trying to

1:45:00help you search for multi minecraft to book show up and one's more expensive

1:45:06than the other

1:45:07that's because the one is more expensive is the one with all three of your

1:45:10contributions and don't buy both because your book is just the introduction

1:45:14section of the yes my my sections the first sexual let's take a break

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1:46:59they want me to talk about it again I mention this last time they wanted to

1:47:02show how do I don't really know much about enterprise I've never worked in

1:47:05the enterprise but this is a big deal this Gartner Magic Quadrant report just

1:47:11earlier this month

1:47:12garner release their 2014 edition of this and it's their Magic Quadrant for

1:47:17social software in the workplace and this is a big deal with corporate

1:47:21environments for the sixth consecutive year ago was listed alongside right

1:47:28alongside tech giants like Microsoft IBM Google VMware Salesforce ASAP all these

1:47:35big companies you know these big huge conglomerate type companies like

1:47:38Salesforce ASAP right alongside them it's a little friends and a clue as

1:47:43their their products don't write up with those guys really does so the Gartner

1:47:49report values things like the size of the vendor partner cause that viability

1:47:53and igloo is praised by Gartner for their responsiveness and customer

1:47:59experience here is an excerpt right from gardeners profile they said feedback

1:48:04from includes reference customers was consistently positive they praised the

1:48:08products quick deployment configuration and customization flexibility with

1:48:13self-service options for non-technical users control over branding and

1:48:18information organization and ease of use they also praised the responsiveness of

1:48:22a clue as an organization so more or less bottom line that's that's gardener

1:48:27verifying and vouching for exactly what what I've been telling you about a glue

1:48:33all along ever since it became a verifiable sponsor easy to use easy to

1:48:38understand it easy for non-technical people to set up the person in charge of

1:48:43the glue internet for your team doesn't have to be a web programmer doesn't to

1:48:48be a system administrator it's just someone who can figure out a really easy

1:48:52to use visual interface for doing this really really great product I think

1:48:58they're growing like gangbusters because it is so much easier and it really is

1:49:02this the sort of internet that you actually use you know all their

1:49:06competitors the stuff like from Microsoft SharePoint all that crap

1:49:09people you if your team uses like there's evidence that shows that what

1:49:13people in your team really do is they don't use it may just pass everything

1:49:16around by email you glue is an internet that your team will actually use and

1:49:21best of all this to me is still amazing it's free to use in perpetuity with up

1:49:26to 10 people so if you attempt person or fewer team is a free product you just

1:49:31use it for free and then after that you can pay very very competitive price

1:49:36producer after that so if you're small team you can use it for free in

1:49:40perpetuity and if you're a bigger team you can start using it try using it see

1:49:44if everything I've said is true for free and then add people after that so where

1:49:50do you go to find out more easy going to www.quikr.com / the talk show all one

1:49:57word include software dot com slash the talk show my thanks Dave

1:50:05as someone who has used corporate intranets you lose is just lately I mean

1:50:12I and I have used as well just as a as a user on my own within the corporate

1:50:16environment but it's such a dirty word that it's really like their home

1:50:21marketing is just based on we know you hear internet and think big pile of crap

1:50:25we're not that that's like rewriting them argue that we know that when you

1:50:32hear that word you think it's it's just so it's so awful this so much corporate

1:50:38software is so bad and this is an instance where its corporate software

1:50:43software that you can use an enterprising stems that is really good

1:50:47player he is speaking of writing long form writing and using markdown you

1:50:56nowhere where it's really taking off and I'm fascinated by it is with screenplay

1:51:03authors

1:51:04movies there's two apps called once called slug line to match which is one

1:51:13of the people behind and then there's high land which is from John august's

1:51:17company I'll and I think started more as I get viewer that's John august

1:51:24companies quote unquote ABS they don't use markdown markdown they use they the

1:51:31John Innes do in a couple other ppl collaborated with like a tiny like 1%

1:51:37sprinkling of a little bit for me

1:51:40couple years ago

1:51:41but they started with markdown and days dad made like a markdown like syntex a

1:51:46call fountain and it uses like the Dodge found file extension optimized

1:51:51specifically for the rules of ice cream place a unibody screenplay looks like

1:51:57there's its kind in years ago I used in nineteen heard around with whatever that

1:52:02heavy duty vinyl

1:52:04final draft final draft yeah yeah and then you know and have also used

1:52:09Scrivener which has some screenplay stuff it you can do you can do that in

1:52:15Scrivener as well

1:52:16final draft is the Microsoft Word of screenplay writing in the 800 pound

1:52:20gorilla on the market it is tons of features in the features help drive it

1:52:24and you know the file format is sort of a standard and people hate it or at

1:52:31least like for the real there's some people who love microsoft word I'm not

1:52:35saying again it's the same thing with the phone sizes I'm not saying that

1:52:38everybody hate Microsoft Word some people love it I'm sure you know there's

1:52:43people who just really get into I'm sure that people who love final draft but for

1:52:47the type of people who don't like word and who would prefer to write a blog

1:52:51post in a simple text editor with markdown if you're like that you don't

1:52:57like writing your screenplay with Final Cut final draft final draft and so

1:53:03instead there's two of these apps are great friends you know it's almost like

1:53:08a friendly competition cuz they collaborated on the file format this dot

1:53:11for fountain file format between them but it's very very marked down like just

1:53:16with some assumptions based on the rules of ice cream place so like the way that

1:53:22in screen play a character named for dialogue as always all caps so if you

1:53:26write in all caps and moats return that it automatically knows that that's a

1:53:32character name and that the next line is dial and you know if you want to put a

1:53:38word that Alex wrapping and asterisks you know just like mark down

1:53:42but it lets you use if you want to you could do something like BB it and just

1:53:47write in a format that is very very readable in its native format and then

1:53:52you processes and outcomes a PDF that looks like a screenplay everything's in

1:53:56Currier all the margins are taking care of and stuff like that and but you could

1:54:01use their apps and you know the slug line and fountain and it

1:54:05format does as you're typing it looks a little bit more screenplay right off the

1:54:11bat instead of you know your text but the file format you're saving underneath

1:54:16is just plain tax and then you know you have that peace of mind like going back

1:54:20to our discussion about iti works out like twenty years from now your

1:54:23screenplay still just a plain text file you don't have to worry that slug line

1:54:27is still an ass you laugh but it's no I know and laughing I'm still laughing

1:54:32about the work thing and the other thing I think the reason that these apps have

1:54:39taken off is even a final draft still sort of a standard like the basic gist

1:54:45though as I can hear if you're a working you know screenplays screenwriter that

1:54:51the canonical format that gets passed around as you submit your work and

1:54:55studios read it or you know even if you're already been hired have to pass a

1:54:59draft is a PDF file so it doesn't matter what you used to write it you generate a

1:55:03PDF and that's what everybody reads and he stops create PDFs that looked like

1:55:08perfect screenplays there's no you know there is no system in place like with

1:55:12word with change tracking and stuff like that that you are obligated to use final

1:55:16draft in a way and maybe some studios have something like that but for the

1:55:20most part it seems like a lot of working screenwriters can just use these apps

1:55:24and miss out on nothing pleases me to no end

1:55:29that something I did you know like 0.000011% input from me that these guys

1:55:37went out and made something inspired by it that is you know really solves a

1:55:41problem

1:55:41screenwriters that markdown solve for me as somebody writing for a blog right do

1:55:49you do you have any 901 dropping names but I mean you know there's gotta be

1:55:57some something as people who are using these apps while John August right I

1:56:02mean I don't know I don't know of anybody bigger than that but you know

1:56:06John August rates

1:56:07you know blockbuster movies I don't know anybody you know of any other to be

1:56:13pretty cool to know that you know which someone you know blockbuster movies are

1:56:17written right there is pretty awesome thing about what else has been in the

1:56:24news

1:56:24you know what it's old news at this point but Merlin and I didn't even

1:56:28mention it last week was Tim Cook coming out as gay yeah that was a guess about

1:56:34two weeks ago now but I thought that was so amazingly well done almost

1:56:41unbelievably how well how how how that played out

1:56:46yeah I mean it's in its think i sat on my website that it's nice for people who

1:56:57might be having trouble you know a guy like Tim Cook is prolly not really

1:57:01having trouble as he gave you know as much trouble as some of the people are

1:57:04having his gay gay people you probably did growing up though

1:57:08yeah the South well I even this leave the south out of it but he's a little

1:57:13bit taller than me he said around 50 and are now simply seems like that maybe a

1:57:21little bit maybe slightly older some way that we could look up

1:57:32how old is Tim Cook ok I told no immediate answer fifty for 24 years old

1:57:46yeah I grew up in suburban Philadelphia you know it is you know what I think

1:57:54relatively speaking with little bit not certainly not socially super liberal but

1:57:59you know it's a little bit more liberal than the south and you know when I grew

1:58:03up being gay was something that just wasn't talked about really just wasn't I

1:58:08don't know when I was a kid it just I didn't really think it was sort of

1:58:13vaguely knew what it meant but it didn't seem like it was anybody seemed like

1:58:17something that like maybe one in 10,000 people I don't know it just seemed very

1:58:23very it just seemed like something that must have been obscure cuz nobody talked

1:58:27about it

1:58:27yeah and I'm sure the adults in knew that it was more common but it was

1:58:32something that was basically not talked about I think people think in that area

1:58:39people didn't talk about it with their kids because they didn't want to give

1:58:42the kids the idea I thought process that I don't know it was in for the kill

1:58:49because then they will become curious about what being gay is in the kid might

1:58:52become gay you know and combine it with you know combine that with the fact that

1:58:59all Christian religions are generally opposed to it you know I grew up in a

1:59:04Catholic family and it you know the Catholic Church considers it a send you

1:59:09know they consider all sorts of skipping church is a sin to you know yes in there

1:59:14obviously bad things and you know that was under that rubric

1:59:19and you know people nobody was game on TV and I don't you mean TV is you know

1:59:25is is not a reflection of America are of culture as a whole but it it informs it

1:59:32right and I what what aspects of culture make it on the TV somehow are like this

1:59:38is the parts of society this is the part of our culture that are ok and nobody

1:59:43was game on TV which meant was not ok you know it was weird it was a bad time

1:59:47I think about this with my son who's the center square guy on wall and Poland on

1:59:55hollywood screen in hindsight early and he was gay is anybody who's ever been

2:00:03gay and I had no idea I honestly as a kid I mean I'm not that old but I

2:00:08honestly thought that he was just flamboyant yeah I did not I did not

2:00:14realize I had no idea just didn't know whereas like I think it's amazing in one

2:00:20generation that like my son is growing up in a world where you know being gay

2:00:25is you know just like having different colored skin it's just some people are

2:00:30that way and you know we see in philadelphia you know people are gay all

2:00:34the time and you know they are friends at his school have you know some of his

2:00:39friends have two months and you know it's not even if he did run as he

2:00:44doesn't even think about it thanks best frank's best friend from growing up in

2:00:49he met this kid when he was one or two maybe it was too but very early on and

2:00:54he's got to moms and we were fortunate to go to their wedding which was not a

2:01:01year ago it's awesome I cannot so happy that the world's Jensen's way but it's

2:01:09you know it's not like that everywhere and it certainly wasn't no

2:01:15yeah and sits in its still not like that for some people and so they think that's

2:01:19why these you know somebody who successfully Kim being able to tell his

2:01:24story is very important

2:01:26Genesis middle school is in fifth grade now they have a club called glow I think

2:01:33this is awesome and stands for gay lesbian or whatever I love that I think

2:01:39that is so awesome because to me that sounds a little goofy it's a little fun

2:01:44but it really sort of expresses the to me the the the modern way of thinking

2:01:50which is hey whatever floats your boat

2:01:51know and everybody you know is different and some people are very different and

2:01:56it's all OK and you know it well fifth-graders called middle school and

2:02:01ok I guess yeah but I thought that such a cool name and it's just to me is the

2:02:08difference between you know his world and my world thirty years ago when I was

2:02:13in fourth grade because there is no way they were going to have a gay let's go

2:02:17clubbing you know and I had Siracusa talked about this I need to pee but with

2:02:24that we've reached a point our culture where where nobody seems to agree that

2:02:34you can't be against gay right it's it's like culturally agreed upon that it's

2:02:42just you know discriminatory makes you a bad person to be against gays but you

2:02:48can still be things like against gay marriage like that still like a

2:02:52culturally acceptable stance to take ya decreasing Lisa decreasing liscio

2:02:59definitely it's you know it's catching up to where racism was yeah I mean

2:03:07people even people who are opposed to gay marriage now how hard time not at

2:03:12least saying that they approve of civil unions and Brian and once you do that

2:03:17you're calling for you

2:03:20right right right when you're driving this difference between religious

2:03:24aspects of marriage and civil aspects of it where but nobody is endorsing a point

2:03:29that religions have to accept just that legally it has to be called the same

2:03:33thing like like the response to nobody really sure somewhere you know obviously

2:03:41on the dark side of Twitter there where people have anonymous accounts at the

2:03:46you know all sorts of the ugliest thoughts that damage can have espoused

2:03:52everything I say I couldn't figure out of it was aight I think it must have

2:03:58been because he was saying

2:04:03Tim Cook is gay so you should switch to Android and if you want I will come to

2:04:08your house and pick up your Apple products and it was written in it wasn't

2:04:15written as a joke it seemed you know like you know like this is it was sort

2:04:20of like there was at least a decent amount of texts where this is an

2:04:24abomination of nature source thing but but reading like the bottom line was the

2:04:30guy was offering to drive your products like the culturally acceptable way to

2:04:42of not just cheer and clap your hands

2:04:48hooks essay is to sort of take us and I saw some of this a fair amount is sort

2:04:57of who cares

2:04:59this isn't you know you know this is why it why why why make this public this is

2:05:04your make your drawing more attention to to to the issue then you know it was

2:05:09totally cool before you actually you know Tim Cook actually wrote the story

2:05:12yyy robust interfaces I mean they wouldn't say it that way but that's sort

2:05:16of how it becomes a crafts are used putting this in my face why are you

2:05:20making me think about

2:05:21things that I don't want to think about and again I'm just written in syracuse

2:05:27here but it's it's true like as a single person in a one-man however powerfully

2:05:33is that it doesn't make that big a difference that he's now publicly out as

2:05:38gay and proud of it than before when he just never spoke about it in public

2:05:42doesn't make that big difference but it doesn't make a difference to me

2:05:47particularly no I mean I think there's a there's a there are a bunch of people

2:05:51you know it makes a difference if you're gay I think it but we don't live you

2:05:56know that we're not all isolated from each other everything is related in

2:06:00context and you know it and it does matter where we were 10 years ago and

2:06:06fifteen years ago right it wasn't that long ago where it was controversial that

2:06:10will grace had to gay characters as you know the the lead the vast over prime

2:06:16time network sitcom right whereas now that you mean it wasn't that long ago

2:06:21but it it wouldn't be an issue now at all right we're coming very fast but

2:06:28we're not there yet

2:06:29right and it really does make a difference that there is a that one of

2:06:35the most powerful leaders in our country is out and proud of being gay right I

2:06:40mean how many how many kids are there right now to teenagers today in this

2:06:45country let alone other countries that are far behind us on this issue socially

2:06:50who are gay and worried or even scared about telling their parents and coming

2:06:57out to the friends you know you know heartbreaking and it's doing issue and

2:07:02to have somebody like Tim Cook saying I am proud of it and consider it a gift

2:07:06from God is its historic I really do think its historic yeah I can't think as

2:07:13I can't think of any other executive Tony obviously follow Apple a closely

2:07:20than any other companies I'm sure that somebody out there is is upset that I

2:07:25don't didn't pay attention

2:07:26there was a guy I don't know there was a guy was like a charge of the bank CEO of

2:07:31a bank but he didn't come out until after he'd resign step down a retired or

2:07:35something like that and said that it was really a day was you know as he was in

2:07:42the ER visits happening now is professional sports right right it's my

2:07:51just a few things that have traditionally at two places that have

2:07:55traditionally been fairly conservative that are now being forced to open up

2:08:02about what's really reality I also thought the other thing it was

2:08:07remarkable not just that he didn't answer but I thought it was such a

2:08:10well-written piece rear ended so short very success and I firmly believe I'm

2:08:17sure that there you know he didn't write it without any help whatsoever editing

2:08:23are you know and from within but I do think that it was his words you know in

2:08:28the same way to me it was like like the Steve Jobs thought on music and Steve

2:08:33Jobs was alone thoughts on flash where you could tell that it was jobs writing

2:08:38it

2:08:39yeah right that there was it wasn't just his name at the bottom of the letter

2:08:42they could like like what we know of Steve Jobs and his obsessions in the way

2:08:46things really came out in those to an early work on essays says yeah and I

2:08:54can't help but think that this this piece is so very Tim Cook in in the way

2:09:02that it's written there's a certain meticulous next to it and the tightness

2:09:06of thought and anywhere where you might be tempted to sort of roll your eyes at

2:09:12the sort of idealism of it I think it's genuine I don't think there's any reason

2:09:17to I think it's genuinely how he feels that he truly feels like a social

2:09:22obligation to our society as a whole

2:09:27to to make things better in in this regard yeah do you think there's a

2:09:33there's a reason now as opposed to earlier I i do I don't know it's it's it

2:09:44seems like the Apple is it a better in a better position currently in terms of

2:09:50public opinion because the stock prices doing better than it was like say your

2:09:53ago I do I think that you know and who knows maybe he really only came to the

2:10:01decision maybe it was something he was thinking about maybe doing for a year

2:10:04two years and and finally thought maybe it just popped into his head maybe you

2:10:08know something in September made him think you know I think I should come out

2:10:12because this this who knows how how long it was planned and I don't know but in

2:10:17hindsight it sure feels perfectly timed yes right like in some way it if he had

2:10:28been out for fifteen years and had been you know had like a longtime partner you

2:10:38know since before there was even legal gay marriage in California who

2:10:41accompanied him to events and therefore you know had been out while he was COO

2:10:47not CEO it certainly would have been his right and nobody would right-minded

2:10:53wouldn't complain about it but it wouldn't have been as big a deal I don't

2:10:56think you know somehow it feels right and the fact that it's a long as it's in

2:11:03Steve Jobs dead three years as somehow it feels like the right amount of time

2:11:10where the tumultuous of of him taking over past it seems like this year we

2:11:16transition period is over even though Tim Cook spent a lot of time almost

2:11:24effectively being see all jobs with sick right there were still you know jobs are

2:11:30still there he still had input into how the products were designed and made and

2:11:35to the point now where no one can reasonably say

2:11:38know that you know the issue that's a good device but it was you know but jobs

2:11:42had his fingers and that's owed him cocaine claimed it as its own right I

2:11:46I've long thought that it even before Jobs was sick or what you know maybe he

2:11:53technically was sick because he had the cancer

2:11:56you know the whole period from when the cancer was first diagnosed until he died

2:12:01a guess he was technically sick the whole time but even when he was feeling

2:12:05well and they thought they had everything in remission I still think

2:12:08that the the delegation of duties I what Tim Cook did Apple versus what Steve

2:12:12Jobs did that Tim Cook was if you just described his duties to someone who

2:12:17didn't know their titles you to where he's the CEO jobs is something else

2:12:23maybe the president or something like that you know used to be a more calm you

2:12:26know when we were kids a lot of companies had like a CEO and President

2:12:29and CEO is more about making company-wide decisions and stuff like

2:12:36that you know about the company and the bureaucracy of the company whereas jobs

2:12:41could even when he was you know healthy was more solely focused on the products

2:12:47and product development but even so I still determined to seem so perfect as

2:12:53you said I think the transition period ended this year stocks stabilized

2:12:58they've they've they haven't released it but they've at least unveiled a wholly

2:13:02the watch which is wholly formed host Steve ghetto and its notes remains to be

2:13:10seen how it's going to you know it isn't out yet but it certainly seems as though

2:13:14there's no you know they're they're not unable to create a new product that gets

2:13:18people talking that's over the stock is back and it just seems like people have

2:13:24finally shut the hell up about

2:13:26when happiness Steve we're still not entirely but it's we've passed it I

2:13:33don't remember a year ago twenty the shower files but there are a lot of

2:13:38people literally calling for Apple's board the fire Tim Cook you know fired

2:13:43him cookies terrible you know when and where passing it is somehow feels right

2:13:50yeah I'm looking forward to the addition of haunted empire has a new book out a

2:14:01shorter shelf when I wrote about it I did I wrote I was like I really feel

2:14:07like they knew it because it really does it part of what I thought was bad but

2:14:12the book is it felt rushed it felt like the editing

2:14:15if it could have been tighter and I can't help but think that they wanted to

2:14:19rush out back in February because they thought it was going to turn around the

2:14:25latest you know I think the writing was on the wall that the book was already

2:14:29gonna get out quickly last thing I think I've had this in my notes as you see

2:14:42this thing yesterday with the Twitter mission statement

2:14:46well and i cant but I think about it as I compared to the Tim Cook essay on you

2:14:56know coming out as gay and proud and how good the writing is I say this is side

2:15:01maybe I value good writing more than most people because I'm a writer I care

2:15:05about it but I can't help it has basic theory in general whether it's something

2:15:08personal like Tim Cook's thing or whether it's something purely business

2:15:12like like a strategy statement that good writing is the result of good thinking

2:15:18and bad writing is usually the result of sloppy thinking incomplete thinking you

2:15:25know that it

2:15:26and here's the twitters strategy statement to reach the largest daily

2:15:33audience in the world by connecting everyone to their world via our

2:15:38information sharing and distribution platform products and be one of the top

2:15:42revenue-generating Internet companies in the in the world and i cant believe more

2:15:50people I didn't jump on it right away about complete that I was the first

2:15:53person I saw to point out that that was not even close to hitting in the length

2:15:57of a tweet it's two hundred and shouldn't your strategy statement and

2:16:06especially if your Twitter it's so that they put it into a longer one of the

2:16:17things called it's so bad it's really bad yeah I really find it worrisome I've

2:16:26had a very worrisome as a platform that I really care about and someone will

2:16:31love but that seems to be floundering at an executive level you know there's just

2:16:36had some more executive shakeup site where there that they've had like three

2:16:41had to product in the last like two years and the last one they just demoted

2:16:47was only there six months it's it's very worrisome in this draft statement

2:16:52doesn't make me feel any better about it it's like every other day about the net

2:16:58neutrality we're like to meet President Obama's statement on it was very clearly

2:17:06written and that there might be room to disagree there might be a reasonable

2:17:10argument against it but I thought that his arguments in favor of it we're very

2:17:14clearly expressed 1234 here's the reasons that we should make sure we keep

2:17:20it keep this sort of not favoring one companies packets over another companies

2:17:25packets on an internet keep it the way it is

2:17:29which has been that all packets are treated equally

2:17:32and the arguments on the other side from the cable companies and the phone

2:17:36providers so obtuse and it's like you can read them and their their words

2:17:42words but damned if I know what damned if I know what the what the meaning is

2:17:51yeah other than the old Senate Live skit with frankenstein and caveman and

2:17:58Frankenstein and yeah they sing Christmas carols

2:18:05like kevin newman who is Frankenstein and he never said was bad I can't help

2:18:20but think that the argument in the face against this net neutrality is more or

2:18:25less a knee jerk frankenstein Ian regulation bad regulation is basically

2:18:31right and I'm not one in favor of red tape and bureaucracy it's not you know I

2:18:37really think you have to see government regulation as as a continuum you know a

2:18:42scale from light graded our current not zero not not binary you know on her off

2:18:48and these companies are regulated already would you know it's not like

2:18:52Comcast doesn't face for some regulations it's the regulations kinda

2:18:56favor consumers and and small companies start-ups are multi-billion dollar

2:19:04stack the deck in favor of Verizon New made who's making eight billion dollars

2:19:09because they need they need yeah and I can't I should the whole cynicism behind

2:19:17that I can't even understand because so there is that the comment that tweet by

2:19:25Ted Cruz yes senator from Texas read the texts you know

2:19:34and he said it's the way the Obamacare for the internet rain rain right and

2:19:42what's not have the internet operate at the speed of government right and I

2:19:47tweeted something back to you know some basic I insulted him and his

2:19:52intelligence and and Josh Saunders is the editor to correctly pointed out that

2:19:59he's the guy graduated magna cum laude from Harvard or something yeah that's

2:20:07right but you know he's actually not an idiot it's just the nasa like he's

2:20:18protecting his buddies at the big cable industry's the aids is like a loud I

2:20:27guess if I ever went to harvard is well with my grades and never really never

2:20:35came up

2:20:36yeah it's definitely not a dummy but he's definitely a cynical because he

2:20:40knows how to communicate at this sort of caveman level of Internet government

2:20:47regulation bad goes no further and you know it's the same people who think that

2:20:56the government should cut back on handouts and not decrease the size of

2:21:01their medicare check sure social security right that it's the other hand

2:21:06out keep government out of my social security the government out of my system

2:21:11like that you ask people if you think the government should stay out of social

2:21:14security and you get like a 60 percent response rate this

2:21:17yes keep them out of social security

2:21:20but anyway I'm deeply worried about Twitter and their yeah yeah I did they

2:21:27thinking about the future that does not make me very happy

2:21:31yeah I can't help but think that the translation from whatever language that

2:21:35is written in the English that the reach the largest daily audience in the world

2:21:38by connecting everyone in the world

2:21:41something something something they want to be more like Facebook is to me what

2:21:47that means because Facebook is more popular that the target of this message

2:21:51was not normal people it was two bankers investment people in you know people

2:21:55who've kept Twitter's stock its I think it last I checked it slightly below

2:22:01where the IPO last year so it hasn't created hasn't tanked but nobody has an

2:22:05IPO and hopes that the stock is flat first year you know and so there is some

2:22:11definite skepticism and that this is a dress that the people who have kept

2:22:15their stock to press and in the meantime Facebook is going up and up and up and

2:22:19to me the translation of this is we're going to somehow try to be more like

2:22:23Facebook whereas to me the whole point of Twitter is that it's sort of an anti

2:22:27Facebook and whether that means that inherently they're always going to be

2:22:31smaller than Facebook financially and user-based wise so be it but at least be

2:22:35true to yourself you know and the whole reason that you had any success at all

2:22:40is that you're not then right there's nothing wrong sometimes a great idea

2:22:46isn't going to be the most successful version of that idea that Twitter i

2:22:50think is genius and his so well designed and so clever in so many ways but maybe

2:22:55the ways that it's genius and simple inherently mean that it can never be as

2:23:00big as Facebook and so be it can still be profitable

2:23:03you know that to me is the the scary part of their strategy statement is that

2:23:10to me is it somehow translates into we're going to wreck what makes twitter

2:23:14twitter

2:23:16well interests addresses nothing about what users liked about her know that

2:23:25seems to be that that to me seems like the thing that you should be doing the

2:23:30things you should be doing primarily in your mission statement and really only

2:23:34in your mission statement and that's what makes them a mission statement and

2:23:40make it makes it reach people and I worked at work in a financial services

2:23:44company back when it was good but when the company was going around the company

2:23:53was good I think it was because of your time by the whole industry 300 you know

2:23:58announced the company they worked at their mission statement was improving

2:24:02financial security for people that's not bad

2:24:05yeah no it was really just like that's where people were in taps into the thing

2:24:11that people are worried about their word about their financial security they want

2:24:13to make sure they can retire and that's what we did was we tried to do anyway

2:24:18it's like back please for your finances I'm not joking right now you could go

2:24:26all right if you feel like your personal your family's personal finances are in

2:24:31good hands in and sound shape for the future and for retirement you feel

2:24:35better you know just drifting off to sleep at night

2:24:38yeah you know as opposed to being wide-eyed you know what I'm going to do

2:24:45anyway we should wrap it up about her yeah white-knuckled and we've already

2:24:53blown it without doubt that we've already left

2:24:55slide

2:24:57someday we're gonna do now

2:25:00someday we're gonna come back hat in hand everything comes out everything you

2:25:12type into the box and just javaScript is turned it into told you so told you I

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2:25:38episode 110 to India as I said one you know I do I remember very clearly you

2:25:50know it's a pleasure to have you back on episode 100 working people go to find

2:25:53out more about your book I will be putting shortly on very nice website net

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2:26:05or my name both similar LTZ it'll come up and how they were your Minecraft

2:26:11playing enjoyments highly recommended for anybody out there and I dunno I just

2:26:15know it cuz everytime I bring up on the show you the email from people in the

2:26:18same boat as me and you were a year ago

2:26:21kid is obsessed with it and yeah what's going on should I be worried and I think

2:26:31the short answer is no it's actually a CHM creative outlet and it is the

2:26:37opposite of like mindlessness it is super engaging and but if your losses I

2:26:42am God by this book so otherwise very nice website that yes thank you thank

2:26:52you

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