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90: ‘Jamming More RAM in for Free’, With John Moltz


00:00:00   no seriously do you do you do you wear polarized sunglasses I have sunglasses [TS]

00:00:04   only I don't think they're polarized caused by I buy the cheapest ones [TS]

00:00:08   possible [TS]

00:00:09   because I sit on them and I lose them and so I gave up by a nice once horrors [TS]

00:00:13   Asian I know I'm not an optician are not in optics but the basic idea is sound [TS]

00:00:19   kinda crazy and you know what the hell they were there they're like blind like [TS]

00:00:23   horizontal blinds on the lenses there there knowing that they did you can see [TS]

00:00:27   them with the naked eye but the ideas that make sure glasses like blind [TS]

00:00:32   without reducing visibility it reduces glare like for example like people who [TS]

00:00:39   work on the water like fishermen loved polarized sunglasses because it cuts [TS]

00:00:46   down on glare from the water but you know if you have polarized sunglasses or [TS]

00:00:52   not because if you look at your iPhone it or any kind of looks different [TS]

00:00:57   it looks crazy it's raining again I do then I do yes I do you do have I must [TS]

00:01:04   cause my family [TS]

00:01:06   the first the first time I noticed that I thought that it was something wrong [TS]

00:01:09   with the phone [TS]

00:01:11   and then I realized I but yeah that's exactly it's exactly how how this came [TS]

00:01:19   to my mind I actually would happen is out I had Marco Arment on the show last [TS]

00:01:24   week and I heard an episode of his show weeks ago where he was talking about the [TS]

00:01:30   Warby Parker glasses and sunglasses and said he likes polarized sunglasses and I [TS]

00:01:37   thought in a million listening to the show that's crazy how can someone uses [TS]

00:01:42   an iPhone all the time as I presume market does used polarized sunglasses [TS]

00:01:46   like to meet the debate between whether you get polarized sunglasses or not is [TS]

00:01:50   over now that we carry iPhones with this all over the place looks bad on your [TS]

00:01:54   iPhone makes your iPhone the crazy I makes it look to me it makes it look [TS]

00:01:59   unreadable i I could not bear to use my iPhone with sunglasses and yet I have my [TS]

00:02:04   sunglasses on and and daytime and I wanted to talk tomorrow about it but we [TS]

00:02:13   ran short of time because we did quick show so I didn't get to bring it up to [TS]

00:02:17   him is the effect the same in the casino I would bet given that given all the [TS]

00:02:25   video poker machines I'm sure they go where you would be most likely be using [TS]

00:02:30   them well and then further confusion the casinos you know if you start seeing [TS]

00:02:36   wavy lines and glasses are here last time I saw this guy next to me smokin [TS]

00:02:51   you just never know what is causing the wavy lines but anyway that's me today [TS]

00:02:59   that reminded me that they're bringing up with you because I didn't bring up [TS]

00:03:05   with Marco is that a couple weeks ago I had me sold first original iPod out the [TS]

00:03:12   one with the wheel that actually spun just a name for old time sake and [TS]

00:03:16   I think it was it was like yeah I just gotta get out posted a picture on [TS]

00:03:22   Instagram couple hundred likes it's a beautiful device it really is it looks [TS]

00:03:27   ancient now because it's so crazy because there's a bigger hard drive but [TS]

00:03:31   yeah but I had it out and it was in my office here next to my desk thanks to [TS]

00:03:37   next to a window in the sunshine and amusing here before she ran out for an [TS]

00:03:42   errand and why did you leave this because it's hers not mine actually I [TS]

00:03:46   said she got mad at me when I posted to Instagram I made it look and say [TS]

00:03:51   anything on Instagram she says that mine workers and their huge actor image [TS]

00:03:59   sleeping on the couch or three night but then she got mad at me because I R acted [TS]

00:04:05   because I left it out in the Sun for a couple of weeks and I looked at it and I [TS]

00:04:09   was it didn't really look weird to me and that these sunglasses cuz it [TS]

00:04:16   actually made it made the original iPod with her son with her polarized [TS]

00:04:21   sunglasses and made it look as though it had a color screen like you know like a [TS]

00:04:26   rainbow yeah yeah I got what I would have known that I actually would have [TS]

00:04:31   been did to me if you borrow your wives original 2001 iPod and literally racket [TS]

00:04:37   it wasn't you it still works as the thing that amazing find a firewire cable [TS]

00:04:41   if I'd actually directed that would justify your your ok going blind as long [TS]

00:04:48   as you can [TS]

00:04:49   continue to look at yer killin vinyl long-term slaves you can continue to [TS]

00:04:54   look at your iPhone with crystal clarity clarity right now I don't think non [TS]

00:04:58   polarized on polarized whatever the word is normal [TS]

00:05:01   sunglasses are driving me blind I think it just have to put up with a little bit [TS]

00:05:07   more glare [TS]

00:05:09   actually ham you might be in the same situation where similar vintage I am [TS]

00:05:18   having trouble starting starting to get my left eye now my right eye which I [TS]

00:05:27   don't know if it's better or worse I got it I got it all through my body called [TS]

00:05:33   is it I looked it up a little bit scared I had to I had to buy and to finally buy [TS]

00:05:39   a pair of cheaters reading glasses [TS]

00:05:43   just like cheap grocery store ones how do they work [TS]

00:05:46   what does it what do they do just makes it easier see things close to him how [TS]

00:05:50   did I thought the same thing that's what classes [TS]

00:06:01   reader classes do you can see I'm really well informed about yeah we should [TS]

00:06:08   really be having this conversation by Lizzie so what you wear contacts I do so [TS]

00:06:18   I think that's when I think that long range but I think I need to do is a need [TS]

00:06:21   to get some kind of parent classes they take around with me want to read yeah [TS]

00:06:27   it's a problem in restaurants now in low light situations trying to return to [TS]

00:06:33   menus and I know I know now my parents went through and why they so he seems to [TS]

00:06:42   anoint glasses on and no sympathy for my dad when you went through that all right [TS]

00:06:48   I remember my dad got his first pair by my dad wears glasses and has his entire [TS]

00:06:56   adult life i believe i dont i dont have seen a picture of my dad without glasses [TS]

00:07:01   on since he was a teenager I remember when he got by vocals and he really was [TS]

00:07:08   struggling with them because it we really have to like hold things in a [TS]

00:07:10   weird angle and I had no sympathy for making fun of them [TS]

00:07:20   yeah I gotta arrogance of youth what's it called presbyopia presbyterian [TS]

00:07:36   presbyopia usually occurs beginning around 8:40 when people experience [TS]

00:07:41   blurred vision near vision when reading sewing or working at the computer before [TS]

00:07:47   I did and she started wearing she'd never won classes vision was perfect [TS]

00:07:51   which I always found irritating to begin with and then she also kept saying [TS]

00:07:55   things like I think it'd be kinda cool wear glasses I think it look good in [TS]

00:07:59   glasses you're not going out and getting like blamed glasses look like just a bit [TS]

00:08:06   but then she got the reader glasses and like the french fries go in with those [TS]

00:08:15   classes like [TS]

00:08:21   librarian name names 500 99.9% sure he'd show but he was wearing glasses one day [TS]

00:08:40   in high school and grade and you know the guy you know makes fun of someone I [TS]

00:08:48   actually had to start wearing glasses in high school I also got contacts and most [TS]

00:08:52   of the time I didn't look different but I just did you know about you but I [TS]

00:09:01   within a day or two it turned out that he didn't have prescription glasses he [TS]

00:09:04   he he should be literally said I think they make me look smart and then we just [TS]

00:09:11   tore into him i mean it's like off to the races because of a sudden instead of [TS]

00:09:15   making fun of somebody for having you know legitimate probable life had bad I [TS]

00:09:21   said since 4th grade so you know I don't hear it you know I had to live with this [TS]

00:09:27   pain for a long time [TS]

00:09:29   you're gonna just wear them because you think they like did I have told this [TS]

00:09:32   story before this is one of the this may be the funniest thing ever happened to [TS]

00:09:36   me in my life and I think I've told this story on the show before better but it [TS]

00:09:40   was years ago so I'm not reaction it was sixth grade and his kid Wayne on the [TS]

00:09:46   train and I got sent down to the nurse together for the annual kids go down to [TS]

00:09:52   buy two and checked right and you don't know why they send you to buy two I [TS]

00:09:58   don't think the nurse was very good with children so she couldn't have and the [TS]

00:10:04   lights are real low in the room because it's set up for exams and there's a [TS]

00:10:08   chair to wait and it's about halfway between there's a piece of tape on the [TS]

00:10:12   ground standard i chart and she said you know who wants to go first and I took a [TS]

00:10:20   seat I'm halfway to the sign and I thought this would be so easy to cheat [TS]

00:10:25   because my brain works is you know I'm halfway there I can just memorize the [TS]

00:10:31   bottom line I saw as something about you know why why wouldn't they [TS]

00:10:38   you know proctor this exam a little bit more in the meantime in member how these [TS]

00:10:44   two do it they did like have you have you read and it was the same thing every [TS]

00:10:47   year to see which line you can read cover the other I do with the other eye [TS]

00:10:51   and then they are asked to give us a pair of glasses and they were there they [TS]

00:10:56   look like Warby Parkers now they're like I guess you know they're like what looks [TS]

00:11:00   cool now black chunky glasses but like in the eighties they were the worst [TS]

00:11:03   glasses and a real thick and it was the same parent they just put them on and [TS]

00:11:09   then what do you see what I put them on the scene nothing like the whole world [TS]

00:11:16   and you know this is the 636 grade same score six years so it's like the 6th [TS]

00:11:20   time I've done this and I'm sitting there bored listening and she's out what [TS]

00:11:25   about this row what about this room and doing can't see any of the Rose he [TS]

00:11:30   couldn't even see the big hit the top started giggling and then that she had [TS]

00:11:37   to cover his there I and it was the same thing you couldn't read it and how it [TS]

00:11:50   goes what if you try these on she gives him this pair of glasses everybody had [TS]

00:11:56   the track he goes oh wow and I just died I just fell out of my chair laughing at [TS]

00:12:06   the plane has not seen the the board three years and then nurse turns me she [TS]

00:12:16   was do you think something and I said he had had good parents you know I think [TS]

00:12:28   his mom is even a nurse nurses kids are always been like he didn't have health [TS]

00:12:32   care anything I did just like never he never really and somehow I don't know if [TS]

00:12:39   he had had a really bad year between 5th and 6th grade if he'd been absent the [TS]

00:12:43   year before when they did the same thing but last two days later doing comes in [TS]

00:12:55   thanks got glasses he doesn't have to wear them which is pretty pretty good [TS]

00:13:02   just smiled but is it distance or close distance and mana first first pair that [TS]

00:13:10   he got where was this Spiderman glasses a picture him with those they were they [TS]

00:13:17   were and they were asked if they were very subtly spider-man the case was was [TS]

00:13:21   kind of spider-man depth but the the glasses themselves look like sort of war [TS]

00:13:25   because they just had a little spider web on the [TS]

00:13:30   on the things on the side I thought those kids Jonas's school wearing [TS]

00:13:37   glasses then when I was a kid when I was a kid it it just seemed pretty rare [TS]

00:13:42   there are now she's pretty common I can't wait to see what happened to these [TS]

00:13:47   kids you know they say that stand in the way from hours a day as bad guys can [TS]

00:13:55   imagine how much worse it [TS]

00:13:57   kids can you imagine corrective surgery cuz i feel like im with us like we were [TS]

00:14:03   even when we were playing video games and arcade or something the parties were [TS]

00:14:08   so fuzzy focus closely that was good for us and you can afford to play for you [TS]

00:14:14   know as long as they can now do think that whenever they people complain about [TS]

00:14:23   the in-app purchases to realize how much it costs me to play video I worked as a [TS]

00:14:28   teenager I worked in a man managed by spent I spent everything you pick the [TS]

00:14:35   place had the key to the place you left without a paycheck every week but I had [TS]

00:14:43   to keep the place and so on Saturday night my friends and was closed and we [TS]

00:14:48   were just go down and open it up and clit lock the door was your favorite [TS]

00:14:54   video game arcade [TS]

00:14:57   my favorite all-time in that one or not was temple's [TS]

00:15:00   that's a good game I love all the points do all the vector vector art yeah yeah [TS]

00:15:08   those are all good yeah Star Wars yeah Star Wars one battle zone battles and I [TS]

00:15:16   guess I asked her if she was vector graphics to never really thought about [TS]

00:15:19   that but now they think about the way that I think it was yeah there were a [TS]

00:15:25   number of asteroids reports that were pretty yeah I remember my favor [TS]

00:15:31   neighborhood arcade growing up [TS]

00:15:34   had to buy honor always a favorite and you are coming through that's that Dino [TS]

00:15:42   Dan benjamin and I talked at length about your coming years ago [TS]

00:15:46   show he was a big game I don't cause I miss that is now it wont that whole [TS]

00:15:53   fighter named came a little bit after my time [TS]

00:15:57   er come true like one of the first ones you google it after the show and you'll [TS]

00:16:02   see from the graphics quality was it was like Street Fighter yeah it was a lot [TS]

00:16:10   more like pac-man graphics even had like that I know is made by the same company [TS]

00:16:17   is pacman had that same exact same score fun same basic idea that were you fight [TS]

00:16:26   with two guys fight side-by-side but it was it was older older version I'll take [TS]

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00:19:02   sign up please so we crossed off the list so far polarized sunglasses and yes [TS]

00:19:10   arcade arcade games and presbyopia [TS]

00:19:17   well here's the weird thing I didn't know this is so it with my left eye if I [TS]

00:19:23   close my right I actually really to be honest I can't read my iphone if it's [TS]

00:19:28   just with my lifetime I close my left eye I can read with my right eye just [TS]

00:19:33   like I've always done before and for some odd reason with both eyes open it [TS]

00:19:38   looks even better I don't know how that works even though my left I can't focus [TS]

00:19:43   it somehow looks better in my head with both eyes open but obviously of it just [TS]

00:19:50   happened to my left eye in the past year probably whatever is whatever mechanism [TS]

00:19:59   it is in there that lets you focus both long distance and short-range it's like [TS]

00:20:08   one loose like the Millennium Falcon III had no idea but I thought to have with [TS]

00:20:21   the thing is is that a distant my left eye was also a little blurry I just need [TS]

00:20:27   a new prescription and so I went to the eye doctor and got any right or left I [TS]

00:20:31   got a little worse since last year you need new prescription here you go [TS]

00:20:35   here's a sample contact lens try this out tried it out and close distance [TS]

00:20:40   stuff got worse way worse and I was I so I went back and it takes a lot for me to [TS]

00:20:46   go back to a doctor I didn't I just thought everything was blurry in and I [TS]

00:20:51   got this new thing and after today I see great distance with his new contact land [TS]

00:20:54   but like reading is worse and I doctor looks i mean he's like yeah it works [TS]

00:21:03   nearsighted prescription is the worst day makes the the inability to close [TS]

00:21:12   level right now I'm so all they have to choose between [TS]

00:21:17   what I want to be able to see ya pretty sad as I did at this point and any [TS]

00:21:27   any native culture where that's all just piled some sticks around then just left [TS]

00:21:32   me there continued on without me [TS]

00:21:37   marker passed away peacefully without being eaten by the animals so here I am [TS]

00:21:49   41 thank you for you on and I have always felt I felt so good for years [TS]

00:21:57   that their jitters to a plan under jitters 143 still the starting shortstop [TS]

00:22:02   for the New York Yankees he's retiring after this year I cannot however much [TS]

00:22:09   better you know physical condition Derek Jeter has always been in me as being a [TS]

00:22:15   world-class athlete and me being a guy sits in a chair the difference in age 40 [TS]

00:22:25   41 as profound he's still the starting shortstop for the yankees and I can't [TS]

00:22:30   read my phone really feel like this is the beginning of the part where you just [TS]

00:22:38   everything you die distorts yeah I'm turning in age this year so I decided I [TS]

00:22:46   was ever gonna get back in shape or get in shape he was kind he was 10 years ago [TS]

00:22:51   started start yes I need to start a long time ago but now you know for sure and [TS]

00:22:56   started exercising again and and I went to the doctor and I had everything and I [TS]

00:23:01   mean everything done what you did have every possible every possible test is [TS]

00:23:06   being run some of them some of them will take months to complete a special [TS]

00:23:13   episode of the talk show with a camera that nobody wants to be a very special [TS]

00:23:21   doesn't want to be there [TS]

00:23:23   nobody I don't want to be there their listeners definitely don't want to hear [TS]

00:23:33   about the guy who asked doctor if you could check of his a Darth Vader up his [TS]

00:23:36   ass but I don't want to just honestly I'm just going to write down here ya SNL [TS]

00:23:50   Darth Vader Star Wars doctors is fun [TS]

00:23:56   ya speaka Star Wars x-wing which is what everybody's saying about even though [TS]

00:24:03   that sounds like a great cause a truly great I think it's awesome I love it [TS]

00:24:20   yeah I think that these teachers were there to shoot among these practical [TS]

00:24:25   said and I know that they said you know it was a thing they said when they [TS]

00:24:29   announced they're gonna do episode 7 and they're gonna change Abrams directing [TS]

00:24:34   and even set right up front we're gonna you know we're gonna die a little back [TS]

00:24:38   on the computer graphics and dial it back up a little bit on the practical [TS]

00:24:42   special effects but actions speak louder than words and just seen something like [TS]

00:24:46   a real fall life-size X-wing is awesome and I remember story when we were kids [TS]

00:24:54   and I don't know if it was after all three movies just after you know [TS]

00:24:59   somewhere in the run when Star Wars was the original story in a magazine about a [TS]

00:25:05   guy you know and they built you know practical sized [TS]

00:25:09   swings and might even like it like nineteen you know after the 77 1977 [TS]

00:25:14   original and some guy in california and put in his backyard he liked you know [TS]

00:25:20   there is a guy who had like a life-size X-wing his backyard and I as a kid all I [TS]

00:25:28   can think is that is the coolest thing I've ever heard and I if I had [TS]

00:25:32   that I would go in and sit in the X-wing everyday now as an adult hello back and [TS]

00:25:37   I think I can see being stupid enough to buy if I had a backyard they could fit [TS]

00:25:45   and I could see being stupid enough to pay someone to put it there and then the [TS]

00:25:49   next day I would wake up and then what I last night [TS]

00:25:59   summit did a couple years ago maybe a little bit more [TS]

00:26:02   there was a project going on to build a full size Millennium Falcon I saw that [TS]

00:26:08   they really built in the forest or someplace can't remember where they were [TS]

00:26:12   doing it but they had like they'd bought some land and they were building a [TS]

00:26:17   full-size morning fog I wonder what did they do with like full-size millennium [TS]

00:26:23   the real full-size Millennium Falcon they built back in 77 I presume they [TS]

00:26:30   kept around for the next two movies and so that the one you saw an empire was [TS]

00:26:34   the same one was I'm not sure was there ever really a full size one built [TS]

00:26:38   because they might have just done the door and down the rest of the map I [TS]

00:26:45   think sure there's there's something pretty big in this scene where you know [TS]

00:26:50   they're loading up I don't know if it's truly full size and articulated from [TS]

00:26:58   every angle but but the one in most isley where you know they're getting on [TS]

00:27:04   the ship and a race against time because the storm troopers are setting up but [TS]

00:27:14   that's a prediction clearly a pretty big pretty big physical thing there and I [TS]

00:27:20   think about it like when there is shooting off the Minox inside the [TS]

00:27:24   dinosaur in the asteroid in the next movie and ending on hot there's a pretty [TS]

00:27:29   big 12 is up there fixing yeah there's a big and I may not be articulated on all [TS]

00:27:35   sides I don't know but visually the Millennium Falcon was represented by [TS]

00:27:40   several models and external and internal sets for Star Wars a partial exterior [TS]

00:27:45   set was constructed in the set to rest as docking bay 94 and the Death Star [TS]

00:27:50   hanger [TS]

00:27:53   or do you think they were they not able to move that and then they they they [TS]

00:27:58   changed the most isley docking bay to become the Death Star that would be cool [TS]

00:28:03   maybe I'll bet that maybe this is a sign that says it would be just as docking [TS]

00:28:09   bay 94 that was the one of the most likely right yeah it's just a partial [TS]

00:28:14   exteriors so shiny new actually I think it's pretty cool yeah I'm kinda I'm kind [TS]

00:28:23   of pro these movies I know some people are concerned I think a lot of people [TS]

00:28:29   our age have a subscribe to end its a sensible Maxim but the fool me once [TS]

00:28:37   shame on you fool me twice shame on me and so they are not going to get excited [TS]

00:28:42   about the new trilogy until well after it comes out no way no how no chance [TS]

00:28:48   that is not gonna be better [TS]

00:28:50   than the last three and the last three left such a bad taste in my mouth [TS]

00:28:55   i'm happy to have pretty much anything I got confused by your sense because of [TS]

00:29:01   the two negatives but I said there's no chance that it's not going to be better [TS]

00:29:06   which means it has to you and what you're trying to say yes to be better [TS]

00:29:09   has to be better [TS]

00:29:10   yes I think that I agree larry kasdan involved on the screenplay Abrams is [TS]

00:29:19   good you know I think abrams worst movies better than than those yes I [TS]

00:29:25   we've said this before I've said this numerous times over Star Wars comes up [TS]

00:29:28   on the show though you have to understand that for like our kids [TS]

00:29:31   generation [TS]

00:29:33   the they're all blur together my son Jonah still has no idea which ones are [TS]

00:29:37   the old ones in the know how can you not tell the difference [TS]

00:29:41   three movies that are very very different and that when I was your age [TS]

00:29:45   we thought Return of the Jedi was the bad one and now we think that was a [TS]

00:29:50   great movie [TS]

00:29:54   thanks lou has not seen the prequels [TS]

00:29:58   I am i yeah I mean he's not is he loved the Clone Wars TV series and he's seen [TS]

00:30:07   the first three movies and then I was like an X files like if you want to we [TS]

00:30:13   can watch movies like now [TS]

00:30:15   you in Syria John Siracusa are like the founder yeah but for a while it was it [TS]

00:30:19   was a very when he was really kind of into the woods into the movies [TS]

00:30:23   themselves for a while before he got into the the Clone Wars show and I think [TS]

00:30:28   at that point he has hit was he asked a lot of questions about the other three [TS]

00:30:32   movies and I was like wow we don't have them exist I worry I worry about those [TS]

00:30:49   movies because they came from the same guy and it's not talking about getting [TS]

00:30:53   older and you know and there's there's I don't know who this is I'm not a doctor [TS]

00:30:58   but they say that like you know I for every few years every single cell in [TS]

00:31:03   your body dies in his replace throughout the cycle so like I don't know within [TS]

00:31:09   like 10 years every cell in your brain has died and been replaced [TS]

00:31:13   you know and hopefully you know they they have any kind of memories that last [TS]

00:31:18   longer than that is that way she gets stored as I'm going out I've got a [TS]

00:31:26   memory of big dog in 1984 and in the news [TS]

00:31:30   iran comes in and goes I got it I got right but I don't know if there is [TS]

00:31:36   something nice job enjoy your retirement there is something that happened to [TS]

00:31:39   george lucas as he got older that is just very MEA he might be a seems like a [TS]

00:31:45   very nice man [TS]

00:31:46   and you know he's had a very happy life but as an artist the guy that the guy [TS]

00:31:51   who made thx 1138 eventually made the Phantom Menace is just mind-boggling and [TS]

00:31:58   that it wasn't because I like a work for hire you know you know gotta do it for [TS]

00:32:03   the money at stake he funded the whole thing I'm so lucky he's set everything [TS]

00:32:11   up and that's why it was so that to me is is why those movies are so profoundly [TS]

00:32:16   disappointing was that he always impressed me that in a very different [TS]

00:32:22   way than like Stanley Kubrick that he he was a guy who wanted to do things his [TS]

00:32:26   own way outside the studio system you know I was thought it was cool everybody [TS]

00:32:30   knew you know he wasn't Los Angeles based he was in Northern California [TS]

00:32:33   nobody else was up there making movies and then he he created this amazing [TS]

00:32:39   franchise that and and set up the licensing and such a way that he got all [TS]

00:32:43   the money from it so that he would never have to go to the studios from money to [TS]

00:32:47   make a movie again he could just wanted to and then he made used it to make [TS]

00:32:52   Howard the Duck in the Phantom Menace [TS]

00:32:58   yeah yeah I mean he had known the answer to either themself [TS]

00:33:01   towered the doctor at his grandparents house and i got really a couple of how [TS]

00:33:07   did that happen I don't know what it was like he was there [TS]

00:33:11   babysat for the weekend we watch for the weekend in our way and Netflix or [TS]

00:33:17   something like that let's watch that I tried to explain to him that it was from [TS]

00:33:23   the guy who invented store owners and you wouldn't believe me [TS]

00:33:29   a half an hour in which both talk about Apple eventually yeah a financial [TS]

00:33:34   results came out today [TS]

00:33:35   you know well today for us not today for the people of this entry into this later [TS]

00:33:41   come out till thursday or some people should listen live [TS]

00:33:47   should i do that you know the ATP guys have that it is helpful as I'm listening [TS]

00:33:57   to ATP and they either make a mistake can think of something that they don't [TS]

00:34:02   have to interrupt themselves and Google it they just keep their eye on the chat [TS]

00:34:06   and say you know it's kind of amazing and it sort of reminds me of like the [TS]

00:34:12   podcast equivalent of like on a light on and live TV the way the anger always has [TS]

00:34:17   your piece and a director somebody off stage can tell them things you know so [TS]

00:34:22   that caused it so that the person whose on-air doesn't have to interrupt the [TS]

00:34:27   shadow [TS]

00:34:28   like it works remember having it with the old talk show in 10 Benjamin for a [TS]

00:34:33   while not a long stretch but for some stretch we had like an IRC channel or [TS]

00:34:37   something like that and it was occasionally helpful I don't think I [TS]

00:34:41   could do it though because I think the reason it works for ATP guys is that [TS]

00:34:44   they required on a very regular schedule where every Wednesday night at nine I [TS]

00:34:52   don't think I've ever recorded two episodes of the show same day I can I [TS]

00:34:59   can the ones that I've been on you up at midnight but it's only midnight out [TS]

00:35:09   there you go [TS]

00:35:10   remember why I remember being disappointed I was disappointed when I [TS]

00:35:20   found out that like the tonight show wasn't life [TS]

00:35:23   yeah although I [TS]

00:35:27   growing up I mean greater New York [TS]

00:35:30   life was lived yes yes which was great [TS]

00:35:35   that was that was a crazy it was great to see them crack up and [TS]

00:35:40   those rules the moments that you remembered [TS]

00:35:45   but that was basically [TS]

00:35:48   there are like that nobody's live in the tonight show used to be live on the east [TS]

00:35:57   coast and then I think at some point in the sixties they switched or maybe it [TS]

00:36:02   was when they moved to California in the seventies when they moved from New York [TS]

00:36:05   to California in the seventies maybe that's when they switched and it just [TS]

00:36:13   felt like a bit of it she right but then I started thinking of it is more like [TS]

00:36:17   knowing like a magician's magic trick at first it ruins the illusion and anything [TS]

00:36:22   hey this is pretty cool these people they're clearly pretending they don't [TS]

00:36:25   lie they don't tell you it's live but they're acting as though it's late at [TS]

00:36:28   night somehow that was ever going to and went to a show on NBC and its like it [TS]

00:36:40   was like at four o'clock in the afternoon or something not right now but [TS]

00:36:44   a big tits but they kinda I mean they cheat he does he does like a time that [TS]

00:36:50   it's you know to stay up until eleven o'clock right or like like like an [TS]

00:36:58   election nato make jokes like as though he knows who won the election [TS]

00:37:04   so financial results came in that's what we were on I hardly really looked at and [TS]

00:37:17   it seemed like they were more or less kind of sort of in line not shocking [TS]

00:37:21   financially good iPhones pretty good a little bit I found a little higher than [TS]

00:37:27   expected [TS]

00:37:28   yeah margins are still grade higher than expected and that was that's been a [TS]

00:37:34   thing like that that during the rundown of the stock like the great 2013 Apple [TS]

00:37:41   depression was always about the margin that the margins are collapse they can't [TS]

00:37:46   you know and and part of it was because they had a run for a couple of maybe [TS]

00:37:52   even number year where they had insanely high margins and I think maybe who knows [TS]

00:37:57   if it will how much of it was just remember when they bought all the LEDs [TS]

00:38:01   LCD screens and a bunch of RAM in advance it was like somehow like that [TS]

00:38:07   that paid off huge and they had like 40 something percent margins for a while [TS]

00:38:11   and part of it was just that that was a fluke in terms of being high and they [TS]

00:38:16   kept saying it was a fluke [TS]

00:38:17   you know this is all you know we'll take the money but this is a surprise that [TS]

00:38:21   normally that they should not be this high and then part of it was just you [TS]

00:38:26   know bad luck that it down a little bit but then I know there was a lot of [TS]

00:38:30   speculation for a while that the margins were gonna compress yeah but now [TS]

00:38:40   the only it's like the only [TS]

00:38:43   question is the iPads are down again yeah i pad down here oh well it's two [TS]

00:38:48   things I think it and I think they maybe they're related I don't know iPad is [TS]

00:38:53   down 10% year-over-year 49 produced 2000 really well max are up 18 percent and [TS]

00:39:01   the max 18 percent is even more impressive because according to most [TS]

00:39:06   like IDC in other people who track the whole industry the industry as a whole [TS]

00:39:10   is still down 2 percent for the same quarter so in an industry where like [TS]

00:39:16   Windows PCs or I guess including the Mac including all Mac and Windows Windows [TS]

00:39:22   Windows PCs must be worse if the matter further right and I think that's kind of [TS]

00:39:30   surprising because I feel like a couple of years ago when the iPad 2011 2012 [TS]

00:39:35   when I pad was early days and and was clearly a hit I think there everybody [TS]

00:39:41   was including me was sort of thinking about how how is this as the iPad gets [TS]

00:39:46   more powerful and more popular and more familiar how is that can affect Mac [TS]

00:39:51   laptop sales probably you know be like a sort of slow decline and it seems like [TS]

00:39:56   that the other way around I don't know yeah yeah that's it's interesting I [TS]

00:40:02   don't know exactly where I think some of the negativity about Windows machine [TS]

00:40:09   sales as well as aid yeah it's just not the often those kinds of upgrades drive [TS]

00:40:16   sales in effect this time because everybody hates it I had really just [TS]

00:40:22   don't think if you went back late 2011 and early days as tablets and mobile [TS]

00:40:27   phones [TS]

00:40:28   gangbusters I just don't think I would have believed that come 2014 the Mac [TS]

00:40:33   woods Dolci ATM I why does my heart [TS]

00:40:38   well you know it's great to see them active yeah I like that ad did you like [TS]

00:40:45   that the Yeah Yeah Yeah I liked it a lot [TS]

00:40:49   yeah and I noticed them in like that that little flash of the old I come the [TS]

00:40:53   old logos great [TS]

00:40:55   the old logo came up [TS]

00:40:57   I so this is a new commercial that Apple they call it a short film it happens to [TS]

00:41:01   be exactly thirty seconds long but I don't know you'll see it on TV money in [TS]

00:41:09   between two predicaments of a show in between commercials to broadcast thirty [TS]

00:41:16   seconds short film about one of their products they're not gonna do it then [TS]

00:41:25   who is if you haven't seen it it's just 30 seconds of almost like stop motion [TS]

00:41:31   animation but it's just a whole bunch own very very quick cuts I think maybe [TS]

00:41:38   less than a second each MacBook and MacBook Airs switch to [TS]

00:41:49   thought that the whole thing holes and was about that was about the air ok that [TS]

00:41:55   has a MacBook everybody's maybe it's two different sizes and MacBook Airs but [TS]

00:42:00   with you know all sorts of custom stickers decorating the Apple logo case [TS]

00:42:07   they never show the screen it's always just the Apple logo some of them I've [TS]

00:42:12   seen before [TS]

00:42:13   some of them pretty clever but then I noticed the one about halfway through [TS]

00:42:17   its like pixel art version of the old six color Apple logo that you put over [TS]

00:42:24   the Apple logo on the MacBook and then when they met when the Apple logo lights [TS]

00:42:28   up it lights up the decal I saw that one at first I thought oh cool I haven't [TS]

00:42:34   seen you know that's a neat way to sneak the old apple logo into an ad but then [TS]

00:42:38   at the very end of the ad very quickly cycle through different styles of the [TS]

00:42:43   Apple logo not on a Macbook just the Apple logo included in the old six color [TS]

00:42:48   amal ago and I found that really interesting that some pushback I wrote [TS]

00:42:53   about it and I said something whether they say it's a pretty well [TS]

00:43:00   I rode people have been decorating a laptop stickers and decals ever since [TS]

00:43:05   they became consumer products didn't see many stickers on them and it cost $5,000 [TS]

00:43:10   first time I tried to buy a PowerBook of $6,000 gonna happen and I don't think we [TS]

00:43:18   need to commission a demographic survey to state that younger people are more [TS]

00:43:22   likely to do this than older people no coincidence that the spot is debuting [TS]

00:43:25   and back-to-school season in the old days Apple didn't have to worry about [TS]

00:43:31   conformance just owning a Mac major stand out from the crowd but what [TS]

00:43:35   happened now when everyone you know has a MacBook and every MacBook looks the [TS]

00:43:39   same something like this commercial is what happened some people push for a [TS]

00:43:45   country like everybody you know as a Macbook and it's obviously something [TS]

00:43:50   like that doesn't literally mean everybody but I that's the case and a [TS]

00:43:54   lot of schools that there are you know whether it's high school or college [TS]

00:43:59   where it seems like everybody you know I'm seeing those pictures you see those [TS]

00:44:05   pictures like lecture halls yeah I mean that's been happening for years before [TS]

00:44:10   these market changes happened in the PC market where where PC started falling [TS]

00:44:16   and apple and Max are rising and I think it's you know that when younger [TS]

00:44:22   teenagers and college students and even more profound so yet take every word [TS]

00:44:28   every one with a grain of salt but if it seems like most of your friends all have [TS]

00:44:32   MacBooks all MacBooks especially from the back look exactly the same you know [TS]

00:44:37   their pro they're all just aluminum with white logo i mean i think is a cool luck [TS]

00:44:43   but you know as a kid that's there's a sort of resistance to that sort of [TS]

00:44:49   confinement yeah [TS]

00:44:52   I'm not a fan of the plastic covers for plastic covers and wants to put a cover [TS]

00:44:58   on my iPhone but I just as I feel like I'm gonna drop that but i dont on a [TS]

00:45:02   Macbook I don't [TS]

00:45:05   like the plastic yeah and I don't think the other thing shells shells yeah the [TS]

00:45:11   other thing that's interesting about that commercial is it shows a bunch of [TS]

00:45:14   them that are beaten up literally dented scratched well used and that pretty [TS]

00:45:21   interesting to my knowledge I think Matthew Bender you know I don't think [TS]

00:45:25   Apple's ever advertised with you know well-worn well but they've talked about [TS]

00:45:34   it before like johnnie I've at least hasn't knows you know those videos he [TS]

00:45:38   shoots from the white University lives in the guy who runs the matrix matrix [TS]

00:45:48   you know that that they choose these materials for how they where you know [TS]

00:45:55   and it should be like a pair of you know good pair of boots blue jeans or [TS]

00:46:00   something like that [TS]

00:46:01   look better but they don't show it like that but I do think there's a truth to [TS]

00:46:06   it you know and I think that especially when you know i phone is different cuz [TS]

00:46:10   it's got class and can you know that the glass all things are offered I don't use [TS]

00:46:14   a case for my phone but I don't blame anybody does because glass whereas you [TS]

00:46:19   know MacBooks are in my experience extremely [TS]

00:46:23   yeah especially as specially since they've switched to SSDs [TS]

00:46:29   yeah I think that you know the aluminum you know I think that it's kinda need i [TS]

00:46:34   think johnnie I've private like that I think he'd like privacy in Siena beat up [TS]

00:46:39   in the morning and that they do think they designed for ya [TS]

00:46:44   uses a very old MacBook Air MacBook Pro thing like physically rough or leg rough [TS]

00:46:57   everything I mean it's gonna end and he seems like he spilled a drink on the [TS]

00:47:04   keyboard and I gotta figure out how to get the keys up to clean cuz it's clear [TS]

00:47:07   sticky now underneath their sticky it's easy clean the top of them but now [TS]

00:47:13   they're attached that I would not type on that thing just a bit of a passive [TS]

00:47:23   aggressive street where he's taken now to showing me some Minecraft mods [TS]

00:47:30   there's there's there's shaders and they they totally changed the way the game is [TS]

00:47:35   rendered and and he says look this one is meant for MacBook MacBook Airs to [TS]

00:47:43   make it look better and still like wow isn't that interesting and then put this [TS]

00:47:49   one is actually all right even though it wasn't meant for an old man but this [TS]

00:47:55   one's any goes well its laggy but it's not as like I do kind of feel bad [TS]

00:48:02   in the sense that somehow I'm proud that he you know cares about frame rate right [TS]

00:48:09   now I get that I get that but we've got a great running gag on our house because [TS]

00:48:14   it's a 32 so it's there's never a tie somebody's always going to win and so [TS]

00:48:20   like one of ours is [TS]

00:48:22   standard def video on the TV and he doesn't really notice doesn't really [TS]

00:48:27   seem to care and Jonas Jonas has been poisoned you expect me to watch this [TS]

00:48:38   notice is the video quality that much maybe it's cuz he's known as glasses but [TS]

00:48:46   he definitely like frame rates or buffering it dry them deserve oh god [TS]

00:48:53   help you if something is buffering and drops below 60 when he had a move to [TS]

00:49:02   another country where they have 60 frames per second so when I was a kid we [TS]

00:49:05   had eight pixels on the screen at a black-and-white TV are Atari 2600 [TS]

00:49:14   literally had a switch you can flip that said you're playing on a blog on my TV [TS]

00:49:18   remember that BMW was like I guess it's you know only choose shades you know my [TS]

00:49:31   first video game console mode for buying anything else on the quarterly finances [TS]

00:49:41   just that they are looking forward to having a big fall recording at a time [TS]

00:49:49   where I have not seen the conference call which is usually were more [TS]

00:49:55   information comes out so they've dropped him [TS]

00:49:58   expected yes anything which you know we're hoping for a kind of expecting to [TS]

00:50:06   win in the other thing I thought was interesting was that [TS]

00:50:09   Tim Cook said that the growth in the iPhone 5 CEO they don't give up don't [TS]

00:50:14   break out how well each iPhone does [TS]

00:50:18   but he said the growth this quarter and the iPhone 5 seat year was higher than [TS]

00:50:23   the growth in either the 405 us [TS]

00:50:27   so right now their words not you know obviously there's no there was no [TS]

00:50:33   previous four seeded compared against but it was that pricing tiers yes yes so [TS]

00:50:39   it was compared to the fore si year ago yes compared to the forest year ago [TS]

00:50:44   correct yeah yeah I think that's interesting especially since there are a [TS]

00:50:47   lot of people who were sort of talk in the five see up as a failure rate how [TS]

00:50:51   that it was that's the air and it's only in arguably a failure in that they don't [TS]

00:50:58   think they didn't sell as many as Apple thought there in cell or maybe they [TS]

00:51:02   didn't sell as many as I thought they would in the first quarter but maybe the [TS]

00:51:06   year as a whole [TS]

00:51:08   yeah I guess it's only nine months or so but it's still like it's like the fourth [TS]

00:51:13   or fifth best-selling phone I I see a lot of them I really do I started [TS]

00:51:17   yesterday you keep seeing more and more [TS]

00:51:19   yeah I think you know I don't think Apple I know from talking to some people [TS]

00:51:26   that they don't they don't they're didn't have a crystal ball they don't [TS]

00:51:29   they didn't know exactly how many like talking to them last year when they [TS]

00:51:32   first announced them and to me the part that stuck out right on day one that I [TS]

00:51:37   think it was $199 $299 was one price review for the exact same price [TS]

00:51:44   carriers subsidize you can get either the 5s or the five see you can get like [TS]

00:51:49   the best five see where the worst 5s I think and I was 19 different I just [TS]

00:51:55   different [TS]

00:51:58   yeah yeah you know and did you know the 5s has 16 gigabytes 5s versus 32 [TS]

00:52:07   gigabyte five see that I could be wrong and I don't even email me but you know [TS]

00:52:12   something like that you get 32 gigabytes privacy or 16 gigabyte 5s at the exact [TS]

00:52:17   same price and I thought that was interesting because that's for some [TS]

00:52:22   people who someone is less informed you know maybe that's a difficult decision [TS]

00:52:26   how did they think that was gonna break out and we don't know you know we really [TS]

00:52:32   don't know [TS]

00:52:32   estimate but you know until we put the stuff out you know we're off [TS]

00:52:36   were always a little surprised by wit which you know the exact configurations [TS]

00:52:42   are better than some consistency Europe but sometimes you can't predict it so I [TS]

00:52:48   think they're probably a little surprised if I have she didn't sell rate [TS]

00:52:53   right off the bad and maybe they're a little surprised that it has legs as [TS]

00:52:57   strong as it does but I think easy explanation you know that it is the one [TS]

00:53:03   that people who are enthusiasts is always going to be the top brand new one [TS]

00:53:10   right that you care about things like that the camera is a little better as an [TS]

00:53:14   extra have stopped of exposure and you care about the fact that they seven is a [TS]

00:53:20   faster CPU I mean every day my life is better every day because my phone run 64 [TS]

00:53:25   bit can't believe there's people out there running and 32 bit so if I had a [TS]

00:53:33   32 bit something I probably couldn't read my phone with either I just kill [TS]

00:53:37   myself but now you know i mean when we think about things like that and then we [TS]

00:53:44   do stupid things like go get online on day 12 by 12 so that we can have it the [TS]

00:53:49   first day that it comes out whereas people who are not like that like just [TS]

00:53:54   buy a phone whenever they're old man breaks or whenever they feel like [TS]

00:53:58   they're old one man that I'm sick of this old phone and then they go in and [TS]

00:54:02   they're like wow i like that pink one that looks cool down and they don't care [TS]

00:54:08   about the fact that the cameras one year old and so of course it makes sense that [TS]

00:54:13   that's the one I do now is make sense that the one [TS]

00:54:18   that would do better year-over-year like us more of a slow burn bright and it [TS]

00:54:25   still looks new looks like a new phone [TS]

00:54:27   whereas I he year ago if you were going to buy the mid tier phone you're getting [TS]

00:54:31   for us and it kind of looked a little older just kinda look like a year old [TS]

00:54:37   from compared to their 50 s where's the five-seat looks just as now just in a [TS]

00:54:42   different style it was another there was a rumor about Wall Street Journal [TS]

00:54:51   that the Apple was ordering [TS]

00:54:54   sixty to eighty million big phones I saw something about this some huge number [TS]

00:55:01   right whereas like they like I think like last year in the fall they sold [TS]

00:55:07   like 50 million and so something like this is a huge spike yeah I saw some [TS]

00:55:12   stuff on Twitter about that words like one rogue report that they're ordering [TS]

00:55:16   eighty million iPhones now means that you know six months from now on every [TS]

00:55:22   port the holiday quarter fell 75 and is gonna be no matter how much higher is [TS]

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00:58:31   big iPhone [TS]

00:58:33   maybe a week or two behind it he peed Siracusa brought up I thought a great [TS]

00:58:41   question [TS]

00:58:41   talking about this they're talking about you know this pervasive rumors that it [TS]

00:58:46   can be too big or iPhone four point seven inch and 5.5 inch how come if [TS]

00:58:53   there's going to be a 5.5 inch iPhone that wire where are the component leaks [TS]

00:58:59   because there's all sorts of component leaks reported for the four point seven [TS]

00:59:03   and they're from people who had like a year ago when they had component leaks [TS]

00:59:09   of things like the gold back of the 5s you know we're pretty much spot on but [TS]

00:59:17   there's no there's so you know before the 4.7 inch new iPhone is seems to be [TS]

00:59:25   tracking exactly on pace leak wise as the last two or three years about from [TS]

00:59:30   which to me it makes it seem like a slam dunk like unless something goes wrong it [TS]

00:59:39   seems like that's that's going to be a new products but there's nothing I [TS]

00:59:43   haven't seen anything like there have been screened have come out for the four [TS]

00:59:46   point seven cases nothing for the 5.5 and then like Reuters have a story last [TS]

00:59:52   week was Reuters business week but one of them had a story that said that that [TS]

00:59:56   the four point seven inch i phone sex is going into production now like me in [TS]

01:00:02   July and the 5.5 inch one is going into production next month meaning August but [TS]

01:00:09   you might think well if it's a month behind then you know maybe the league's [TS]

01:00:15   against are coming soon but leaks for the four point seven inch front came [TS]

01:00:19   more than a month ago started a long time right I started months ago [TS]

01:00:24   mmm course it makes sense that they would pick up if it is entering [TS]

01:00:28   production but I don't know there's something about this 5.5 inch to meet [TS]

01:00:33   the sound isn't gonna happen [TS]

01:00:35   and she's kind of crazy to think that they would have phone comes in three [TS]

01:00:39   sizes [TS]

01:00:41   that seems to just before I knew it seems like it its intended use two at [TS]

01:00:51   the same time since it seems like it would make sure its head explode like [TS]

01:00:54   from a product marketing perspective how do you frame it you know how you frame [TS]

01:00:59   the story like like with the iPad's they've got the same specs same camera [TS]

01:01:06   same you know CPU same pixel dimensions it's just you want bigger smaller and [TS]

01:01:11   you have to pay $120 bucks or whatever the differences for the bigger one and [TS]

01:01:16   somehow seems to make sense in consumers minds a little more to get a better one [TS]

01:01:21   pay less to get a smaller or maybe it doesn't maybe that's why iPad sales are [TS]

01:01:25   down but but somehow comes across as feeling fair whereas if they come out [TS]

01:01:31   with two new iPhones sixes and they're like the same a a system-on-a-chip same [TS]

01:01:37   new and improved camera the same then this and one cost more than the other [TS]

01:01:42   one which one cost more I'd rather have the smart one so what I write it doesn't [TS]

01:01:48   seem to me like you should pay more for a bigger one so I don't I didn't make [TS]

01:01:52   any sense maybe maybe maybe we're in luck maybe this year I don't want to buy [TS]

01:01:56   the most expensive I need a particular because they've approached this so [TS]

01:02:00   slowly and carefully to date ya jumping up to 5.5 inches seems unnecessary and [TS]

01:02:08   you're still there still growing sales I mean it's not like it you know it was [TS]

01:02:13   the iPad maybe we might think okay well sales are falling maybe they need to do [TS]

01:02:17   something else but you know it's not like it's not like they have a pretty [TS]

01:02:21   big problems selling iPhones iPods are only selling record numbers and [TS]

01:02:30   conversely I don't think it makes any sense product marketing wise for if [TS]

01:02:34   there's 241 to be like a deer and one to be the beach here because there's some [TS]

01:02:40   number of people who are going to [TS]

01:02:42   want the other one but one the other specs right somebody is going to say I [TS]

01:02:48   want to top of the line iPhone the top of the line one is the 5.5 inch and the [TS]

01:02:54   mid tier one is 4.7 inch like the five see equivalent class spec wise well I'm [TS]

01:03:00   gonna be upset because i dont wanna 5.5 inch I even spent half an hour being a [TS]

01:03:06   Showtime how I can read my eye I don't want it I don't I rather not be able to [TS]

01:03:15   read my phone then carry something that I don't get it I don't see how they [TS]

01:03:20   could do it you know and then you know let's say that the 5.5 inch better [TS]

01:03:24   camera than four point seven in turn will that I don't make me angry right I [TS]

01:03:30   just don't see it does make it is never made any sense to me like the iPhone I [TS]

01:03:36   don't know how old weight and end and then do they still there for sort of a [TS]

01:03:41   soul or does the [TS]

01:03:43   if they switch to a thing where the new iPhone sex is out and it has now it has [TS]

01:03:51   a four point seven inch screen i dont that that doesn't sound good to me I [TS]

01:03:55   like four inches but I'll try it and it does sound reasonable and it does maybe [TS]

01:03:59   you know as batteries get bigger you know you you know maybe I'll be happy [TS]

01:04:03   with it thank you know what I kinda like having a bigger and you know you know I [TS]

01:04:09   guess maybe maybe i mean and when they get when the five came out it was [TS]

01:04:13   physically smaller than the 40 S right at the screen but in terms of volume was [TS]

01:04:20   actually a smaller and is all I would hope they would do something like that [TS]

01:04:23   yeah it felt like a fair tradeoff yeah we're going to 5.5 is just ridiculous [TS]

01:04:29   I'm not saying know that I i cant believe that other people would want a [TS]

01:04:34   device like that I do I totally understand that some people love them [TS]

01:04:38   and that they you know that there is a sweet spot between you know I don't need [TS]

01:04:43   a tablet and phone I just have this one device I know it's not for me I've seen [TS]

01:04:47   such similar devices I can't imagine carrying them around carrying around my [TS]

01:04:51   pocket everywhere I go I just don't see it I also doubt I do think they're also [TS]

01:04:57   though and and with the discussions note you know joking aside about you know via [TS]

01:05:03   it does raise the question of what is the point of getting a bigger screen is [TS]

01:05:08   it to make everything bigger so that you see the same amount of texts but now [TS]

01:05:13   it's bigger or is it to put more on the screen [TS]

01:05:17   keep the texts the same size and you can have more texts at the same time [TS]

01:05:21   yeah I think the answer is maybe both [TS]

01:05:25   little bit of both right with the settings you know with the colorado is [TS]

01:05:32   one of the other [TS]

01:05:33   depth of text but there's seventy introduced then read on the general text [TS]

01:05:40   size and you can make text bigger system wide [TS]

01:05:44   and maybe you know it always seems to me like when you make it bigger the current [TS]

01:05:50   iPhone takes up too much space maybe with a 5.5 inch fun that would be a [TS]

01:05:55   great option for people with failing eyesight that I can see that is a great [TS]

01:06:00   product but I just don't see how they sell alongside the four point advantage [TS]

01:06:04   at least at the same here just seems like a lot to say that to me [TS]

01:06:12   leaks even though there are leaks coming out I feel like we know less about what [TS]

01:06:16   they're gonna announce iPhone wise then in years many years I can't even [TS]

01:06:22   remember the last time I've had to guess last year about this time we had was [TS]

01:06:29   quite this time certainly by August we had seen [TS]

01:06:33   pricey I'd already written a review now I know we didn't see the privacy did we [TS]

01:06:41   we know but I thought we saw the shells I thought we only saw the five at the [TS]

01:06:45   meadowlands I think we saw the plastic ones we did name required [TS]

01:06:49   they were white yeah but we did see all the colors I think we just like a white [TS]

01:06:54   plastic one yeah I do remember something so we're we're in agreement [TS]

01:07:00   5.5 yet anyway I don't know and then there's people in the the people saying [TS]

01:07:06   the rumors saying that it's a month behind her there might come early next [TS]

01:07:10   year [TS]

01:07:10   why they wouldn't announce that in September then that seems weird that [TS]

01:07:15   they would do that I give it three or four months behind that seems to me like [TS]

01:07:19   that's a non-starter it should either be at the same time and therefore in time [TS]

01:07:27   for the holidays or like six months later you could be due in April or [TS]

01:07:32   something like that yeah but if you know the holidays such a weird blip on their [TS]

01:07:40   quarter you mean you can see it every time they have these you know like today [TS]

01:07:43   every time they do the quarterly financial management at such a weird [TS]

01:07:46   there's such a holiday company [TS]

01:07:51   that it doesn't make sense that they would have something that would debut in [TS]

01:07:54   January and they can announced in September because then people would you [TS]

01:08:00   know the whole Osborne effect that they're not going to want to buy the 4.7 [TS]

01:08:04   inch one until they can see the 5.5 in 20 make a side-by-side comparison or you [TS]

01:08:11   know they can't just have five point you know we are not going to sell it until [TS]

01:08:14   January but we'll put him in the stores so you can see him whenever people love [TS]

01:08:18   them you know what they're gonna did they wait doesn't make any sense you [TS]

01:08:23   know you know show people something unless you can sell it yeah I just don't [TS]

01:08:27   get it something just doesn't doesn't some of those rumors came from Chico I'm [TS]

01:08:32   sure who is held up as one of the really good [TS]

01:08:41   rumor resources and used to work for digital times that works in our ta [TS]

01:08:48   securities when everybody I don't even know if it to hear is but if he got here [TS]

01:08:55   and he's he's got a number of things correct but he's also got a number of [TS]

01:09:03   things completely incorrect because last year he said that the iPhones to be [TS]

01:09:07   announced at WWDC right and and he's the one saying that the the iPhone still a [TS]

01:09:14   big iPhones are delayed in [TS]

01:09:17   won't be coming in may not come until next year I think that if the 5.5 inch [TS]

01:09:22   iPhone is quota is delayed maybe they were working on it maybe it is delayed [TS]

01:09:26   for whatever reason that means it's pushed back here that's what I yeah I [TS]

01:09:32   would think so they're not going to do something to three months after the [TS]

01:09:37   initial so here's here's what I can't wait for that [TS]

01:09:40   imagine this scenario September comes there's a big iPhone event Yerba Buena [TS]

01:09:45   Center is rented out to put up some kind of big colorful poster I fly out there [TS]

01:09:52   we have a big shown dog show dog and pony show ya and the only new iPhone [TS]

01:09:59   announced is 4.75% sex it doesn't matter how awesome that phone is how many [TS]

01:10:08   people are going to say where's my right i mean they can't win situation that [TS]

01:10:17   Apple is in like it if they I don't see how they could do this make sense of how [TS]

01:10:25   they would do both but if they don't do both there's gonna be some number of [TS]

01:10:28   people who are outraged gonna say that they are out of touch you know disappear [TS]

01:10:35   in 60 days [TS]

01:10:41   did they did they disappear after the sixty days I wanted to know someone [TS]

01:10:47   asked on a conference call I guess he trip trip Chowdhry does not get on the [TS]

01:10:55   conference was great it is not the answer [TS]

01:10:58   Kickstarter that I would totally Kickstarter project trip Chowdhry onto [TS]

01:11:06   the every quarter conference call at least for the next four you know will [TS]

01:11:11   pay whatever it costs and we get trip Chowdhry on every get one question on [TS]

01:11:16   every call Jean monsters but right now we're just gonna ask about Apple TV is [TS]

01:11:24   gonna ask a question yeah yeah that's get funded trip Chowdhry [TS]

01:11:31   Crowder here [TS]

01:11:35   penciled in for just appearing in early June when you didn't release and I [TS]

01:11:40   watched thing this is Tim Cook southern accent question now we're still here [TS]

01:11:53   next quarter I don't know how we can keep the lights on the other thing from [TS]

01:12:13   the herd on the little bit of the conference call that I heard before we [TS]

01:12:20   got on the air was that while the iPad sales were down overall they were up [TS]

01:12:26   about fifty percent in countries like China and India which was interesting [TS]

01:12:32   and they were down in [TS]

01:12:35   mature countries developed nations BRIC countries BMI see what is the residual [TS]

01:12:44   Russia India China Brazil Russia India China Brazil Russia India China sounds [TS]

01:12:51   for random countries which is yet although there except that they're both [TS]

01:12:57   all four are enormously populist right right so those those four countries it [TS]

01:13:08   way up and isn't that exactly the the those are exactly the sort of countries [TS]

01:13:13   where I feel like everybody said they would never ever selling iPads well and [TS]

01:13:20   they also are like the sort of countries where everybody was saying last year [TS]

01:13:25   when the five see came out and wasn't cheap you know that everybody saying [TS]

01:13:30   keep iPhone and they came out and it wasn't there was no they had nothing to [TS]

01:13:35   do with the cost it had to do with having the mid tier occupied by a new [TS]

01:13:39   device at the same price points instead of a year old device coming down that's [TS]

01:13:45   all they did nothing to do with the price is about replacing the middle tier [TS]

01:13:50   with a new phone rather than in one that was probably cheaper yeah I think that [TS]

01:13:57   helped helped help their margin right I think yeah I think that there's [TS]

01:14:01   something yeah there's something to that where I think that the the the refined [TS]

01:14:06   aluminum if you know if they had held the past pattern instead of the five see [TS]

01:14:11   the five she wouldn't exist and the iPhone 5 would still be sold at that [TS]

01:14:16   point which is what the five she is in turn which also against we want to [TS]

01:14:23   speculate but i found out i mean i phone 5 CBS which would be an iPhone 5s in a [TS]

01:14:31   plastic case I would like I don't know if they're going to call it a five ccs [TS]

01:14:35   cuz it's starting to get to me the simplest thing is the 25 C drops down to [TS]

01:14:41   50 strips down and you get a 4.7 inch yeah but I kind of feel like the pattern [TS]

01:14:46   a cent last year as they don't wanna sell the [TS]

01:14:49   nice case are you know in the middle in the middle I do I feel like I feel like [TS]

01:14:59   that year was a setup just to get to the point where the plastic cases on the [TS]

01:15:03   bottom level maybe could be either one of the other that's a good question good [TS]

01:15:07   point could be about that they needed to get out one year in advance before it [TS]

01:15:11   could be could be I don't know that not so sure about I know I think it's sort [TS]

01:15:21   of about CMI my guess is that it's sort of about setting your expectations for [TS]

01:15:27   which one will cost more before you even turn them on that you can look at a five [TS]

01:15:33   seed and a five a side by side while the screens are off and I think most people [TS]

01:15:37   would be able to guess which one is more expensive than the other whereas my five [TS]

01:15:43   ask the current five ass pick your favorite color versus the iPhone 6 this [TS]

01:15:49   4.75% sex I don't know that you'll be able to do that right if you you know if [TS]

01:15:56   you just purely like bigger devices against you think this one is nicer but [TS]

01:15:59   you know if you like smaller devices you might think that the 5 S's whereas if [TS]

01:16:05   they put the 5s internals in 2005 see style plastic case then it sets that up [TS]

01:16:10   or not that's good that's one of the things I'll be looking forward to next [TS]

01:16:14   month or September I guess the BRIC countries know I'd I think that [TS]

01:16:20   everybody said last year that they need to sell cheap iPhone for china because [TS]

01:16:24   people in China per capita don't have a lot of money [TS]

01:16:29   emerging markets emerging markets and I think I don't think Apple thinks there [TS]

01:16:35   are such things as emerging markets I really don't think the way they approach [TS]

01:16:39   it is that there's people who can afford my friends and people who can't you know [TS]

01:16:45   and I don't mean to be you know but the fact that the average person in China [TS]

01:16:50   maybe can't afford an iPhone 5 see you probably can't afford iPhone see let's [TS]

01:16:56   face it doesn't mean that there aren't [TS]

01:16:58   millions and millions of people in China who can because there's a billion people [TS]

01:17:03   in China the other thing they did in the spring was sad and eight gigabyte iPhone [TS]

01:17:09   5 see ya that's a little weird I kind of had much to do with it I can't believe [TS]

01:17:19   that the difference from Apple's perspective between eight and 16 [TS]

01:17:22   gigabytes is so much is enough to warrant that it seems my Israeli yeah [TS]

01:17:29   yeah you know and a camera that can shoot high-definition and stuff it's [TS]

01:17:36   like wow that's just seems really I mean I was looking I was looking at Amazon [TS]

01:17:41   had a sale on Kindle Fire last week and was looking at them and think the price [TS]

01:17:47   difference between the I think there was any gigabyte and a 16 gigabyte and the [TS]

01:17:51   price difference between the two is like $20 and even then you go for you that's [TS]

01:17:55   just just because you know the cost difference can I bennett lesson 20 bucks [TS]

01:17:59   but you can't how can you price of $5 partner whatever yeah you know and I [TS]

01:18:06   know RAM is the same way and that's another John Siracusa frequent complaint [TS]

01:18:11   that Apple always short changes the devices on RAM in 05 I think I don't [TS]

01:18:19   know whatever we have we we all wish we had more than one gigabyte of RAM and [TS]

01:18:23   that's that sounds right and that it it comes back to bite in the long run at [TS]

01:18:32   the tail end like when somebody with a four as upgrades 27 and it feels like [TS]

01:18:39   their phones running slow yeah like the number one thing Apple can do that would [TS]

01:18:43   make that better I you know he thinks and i i agree would be if if they had [TS]

01:18:49   doubled the RAM all along like if every single iPhone ship may be excused the [TS]

01:18:55   first generation one because it is crazy I can't believe this thing but it's like [TS]

01:19:01   the last few years of I found it had more like they had gone to a gigabyte in [TS]

01:19:05   the years when they had 512 megabytes and therefore these ones now that have a [TS]

01:19:09   gigabyte had to gigabyte [TS]

01:19:11   it would I think it would give them a lot more headroom down the road for like [TS]

01:19:16   the last supported iOS update they're going to give ya cuz it's sort of a [TS]

01:19:22   no-win situation for them where they cut them off earlier everybody like wow I [TS]

01:19:26   just by the front two years ago an hour they don't get the software update but [TS]

01:19:29   then they get the software update and it makes her phone cool slower because I am [TS]

01:19:33   because it's optimized for the the brand new you know you know the first priority [TS]

01:19:39   is to make it awesome on the top of the line iPhone which has more RAM than they [TS]

01:19:44   get I know you have you get a limited dish in limited edition 256 gigabyte [TS]

01:19:51   iPhone but my wife I believe that the 16 [TS]

01:19:56   we've been eating by on 16th so that the first iPhone 4 gigabytes iPhones [TS]

01:20:03   we were speaking limited editions there was a real limited limited edition and [TS]

01:20:10   and I use that for two years and towards the end it got really painful and I'm in [TS]

01:20:16   the same place now 16 gigabytes [TS]

01:20:20   can't do it anymore and I don't know I just look at some point they jump up I [TS]

01:20:26   could I can [TS]

01:20:27   32 I could definitely get by with 32 died after I don't think I am right now [TS]

01:20:32   I think if I check I think it's somewhere in the forties my phone is [TS]

01:20:39   fucked up to somewhere so I'm using upwards towards the 64 but I could do [TS]

01:20:44   crap like yeah well that's out and that's I had a 32 gig 3G yes and it was [TS]

01:20:50   just like you never came close but Italy during that time period I felt like I [TS]

01:20:56   was looking up movies and stuff and I was watching us so I kept getting 16 gig [TS]

01:21:04   phones after that and and now I finally got to the point where ok now I can get [TS]

01:21:08   stuff on there you know all the stuff that I want that it really need on there [TS]

01:21:11   I will I will point out before I take a final break for a third sponsor I will [TS]

01:21:16   point out the obvious tension between the fact that half an hour ago we were [TS]

01:21:21   singing praises of Apple's 39 percent profit margin and now we're not telling [TS]

01:21:27   them that they should double doubles and blacks in every single model across the [TS]

01:21:34   board [TS]

01:21:35   you know somebody casting [TS]

01:21:40   somebody is sitting there listening and smiling as you cannot have it both [TS]

01:21:45   around 50 million pounds yeah there there there is there is a 30 percent [TS]

01:22:01   sure right right and I but i feel like im looking at new my wife's getting [TS]

01:22:08   close to needing a new MacBook and I'm gonna be there probably next year in and [TS]

01:22:13   I just can't sanction getting a for gigabyte for big gigabytes of memory [TS]

01:22:18   anymore and a hundred and twenty eight gig drive now I think [TS]

01:22:22   I don't know I gotta be more than that [TS]

01:22:25   well for me as I gotta go eat 256 [TS]

01:22:29   you know I don't know it's like the modern web pages when you look in [TS]

01:22:34   activity monitor and you see how each tab now it gets to show you how much RAM [TS]

01:22:39   is using its like crazy not crazy but more than four gigabytes and it just [TS]

01:22:46   seemed again we're getting old for gigabyte of RAM sounds like it still [TS]

01:22:51   sounds to me magical its cuz it's the magical barrier where you need sixty [TS]

01:22:57   four-bit processing for one process to address that much space and I knew about [TS]

01:23:02   that limit but like you know in the nineties or even the 2008 just seemed [TS]

01:23:06   like some beautiful shangri-la of the future would have that much [TS]

01:23:11   meanwhile I'm paying for a megabyte memory chips with my last dollar load up [TS]

01:23:20   an old girls see with sixteen megabytes of RAM and it just seems crazy than our [TS]

01:23:29   saying I can I get by with for you but you know that's right some side some [TS]

01:23:35   point I guess we'll be talking about [TS]

01:23:39   our kids I will say this one last point about it though is that yes that's [TS]

01:23:46   obviously there's some tension there between the profit margins and you know [TS]

01:23:50   the RAM and flash storage every single device but on the other hand we do know [TS]

01:23:56   that Tim Cook in particular and apples in this situation is very very fanatical [TS]

01:24:01   about customer satisfaction and again I'm stripping John circus off your butt [TS]

01:24:07   customer satisfaction is definitely tied to a ramen your device especially one or [TS]

01:24:14   two years down the road so you know it's a multi take one of those three-way [TS]

01:24:20   talks more like if there's one thing that maybe they did they would be [TS]

01:24:24   willing to sacrifice a bit of long-term profit margin just a bit by bit of [TS]

01:24:29   long-term profit margin for customer satisfaction seems like the tape the [TS]

01:24:33   tradeoff that they would they would see is worth it because customer [TS]

01:24:37   satisfaction is a long term investment I think I want to tell you about a brand [TS]

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01:26:05   easy no no coding required pick the component you want drag the component [TS]

01:26:10   you don't want off or if you want to get into the code you can do that too so you [TS]

01:26:17   can get into the code and customize it at that level of you want to want to [TS]

01:26:21   stick to the drag and drop you don't know that stuff do it that way they have [TS]

01:26:25   24 7 support this is a key key feature key feature of Squarespace great tech [TS]

01:26:32   support live chat and email 24 7 know from those who wants to talk to somebody [TS]

01:26:38   on the phone is terrible [TS]

01:26:40   you can get them twenty-four seven live chat and email and they've got help tech [TS]

01:26:46   support locations in New York City Dublin Ireland so it covers like the [TS]

01:26:53   whole western world of live export 24 7 some poor sap is in there on Christmas [TS]

01:27:01   Eve waiting for you to build your Squarespace site amazing plans start at [TS]

01:27:07   just eight bucks a month eight bucks and I talked about Squarespace I'll attempt [TS]

01:27:12   to get a whole website for eight bucks a month and that includes a FREE domain [TS]

01:27:16   name if you sign up for a year [TS]

01:27:18   responsive design on all the template everything looks good on everything [TS]

01:27:22   looks good on tablets and like I said an online store that you can just configure [TS]

01:27:27   the dragon to go to Squarespace dot com even if you are I don't know what the [TS]

01:27:32   difference in the URL and coaches but did you go to Squarespace dot com slash [TS]

01:27:36   ruber GRU BER my life but use the offer code at the checkout Jay G and you get [TS]

01:27:44   10% off whatever it is you something for my thanks to them [TS]

01:27:48   what we're talking about something about iPads iPhones Jimmy more ramen for free [TS]

01:27:55   but it's gotta go up sometime and I feel like we're close to an inflection and [TS]

01:28:06   you can tell you really can take you so you know I hate to say it but the [TS]

01:28:10   devices still are everything is always start yeah you know you know you don't [TS]

01:28:18   see it as much as you used to switch from one app to another and then do [TS]

01:28:21   another and then you go back to Safari and your tabs have to reload because he [TS]

01:28:25   had to give up a DRAM and flash dolla tabs just remembers the URLs and now [TS]

01:28:30   you're in the supermarket and crummy cellular reception area and now you've [TS]

01:28:37   tapped as it happens you know where is if you had double the RAM [TS]

01:28:43   tablet still be there cuz you loaded it before you went to the supermarket I do [TS]

01:28:47   a lot of my reading in the supermarket is there something they do into building [TS]

01:28:50   a supermarket that shields like cellular I don't know if I seems like every time [TS]

01:28:56   I go to the supermarket to get I get a worse connection 100 most girls I don't [TS]

01:29:00   know maybe it's those shelves that they use or something like that [TS]

01:29:04   quince [TS]

01:29:07   absorbing the not a scientist you're not a doctor and I'm gonna sign you know [TS]

01:29:22   there's something I want to customer satisfaction [TS]

01:29:24   talk about and yeah I mean end he mentions that he said customer set again [TS]

01:29:30   this time but they beat that drum throughout that conference call every [TS]

01:29:36   single yeah well I yeah and I think that they see it as a way of of trying to [TS]

01:29:45   prove scientifically [TS]

01:29:47   however my to customer satisfaction survey can be held up signs but it's [TS]

01:29:50   certainly better than just empty words you know that people like Apple products [TS]

01:29:55   on average better than other people like peeling [TS]

01:29:55   on average better than other people like peeling [TS]

01:30:00   products from other companies right which is a long-term advantage it's it's [TS]

01:30:05   not it's a way of saying we're not in a commodity [TS]

01:30:08   you know some big portion of these markets that were in laptop computers [TS]

01:30:14   tablets cell phones is commodities market but we're we're operating is not [TS]

01:30:21   a commodity market and that there's a sizable demand for the nine commoditized [TS]

01:30:27   products at the high end of these markets do you see do you have a lot of [TS]

01:30:32   people who are people you see with Kindle Fire's now I don't see many [TS]

01:30:37   Kindle Fire's I don't that might be a seattle-area thing yeah I can always [TS]

01:30:42   wonder if it's just it's more the area that live in but I see when I also see [TS]

01:30:46   just like a lot of people buying them as cheap tablets for their kids like they [TS]

01:30:52   fix I think they sometimes people think well they think that I should get [TS]

01:30:55   cheapest one because it's just for the kid and then they also think that is [TS]

01:30:59   probably just gonna drop it and yeah i dont wanna dropping an iPad and that's [TS]

01:31:03   interesting I wonder how the decline in Europe year iPad sales already I mean [TS]

01:31:10   already I mean like in the life of the product I i think part of it is that [TS]

01:31:15   people when they get a tablet or see if they keep using it they use it a lot [TS]

01:31:18   longer than they use cellphone and it's more like laptop in terms of replacement [TS]

01:31:24   cycle yeah I guess so [TS]

01:31:26   and and be maybe you know this is a case for the iPad has become too expensive [TS]

01:31:36   that maybe I don't know how many of these other know who else is selling a [TS]

01:31:39   lot of tablets but you know if if people are buying them like you said like four [TS]

01:31:43   kids and stuff like that let's you know a great reason to buy a $250 device [TS]

01:31:48   instead of a $500 advice if you're given it to a kid who you know [TS]

01:31:53   i mean you know look at the way things like a DES are constructed right game [TS]

01:31:59   voice you know they're greater made to be handled by children in ways that iPad [TS]

01:32:05   or not and I don't you know I don't think I better particularly fragile for [TS]

01:32:09   tablets but they do have a glass screen and they're not rugged right side are [TS]

01:32:15   just more expensive don't more expensive to replace right and it's not like iPad [TS]

01:32:19   sales of collapsed it's just a drop but you know it just seems worrisome at a [TS]

01:32:23   time when I think most of us thought that they'd still be going up just [TS]

01:32:26   because more people buying their first album yeah [TS]

01:32:30   it's hard and I you know I always wanna hurt when I did I find it odd that not [TS]

01:32:38   everybody else does but here's an interesting customer satisfaction [TS]

01:32:43   angle and and it's a long term thing is that it's a belief and I i think thats [TS]

01:32:51   applies at the consumer level and at an enterprise level thing but that Apple [TS]

01:33:00   has long had the knock against it that they charge per to higher prices and [TS]

01:33:05   that they you know they're greedy and that they make these obscene profits and [TS]

01:33:09   they charge too much for everything and that their stuff is just too expensive [TS]

01:33:14   right and and some you know there are sometimes in the late nineties early two [TS]

01:33:19   thousands were like you know pound-for-pound maybe the Mac was more [TS]

01:33:23   comfortable Mac was more expensive than comfortable PC but especially in the [TS]

01:33:28   Intel Mac era you know that's a long ago been turned around where it's like [TS]

01:33:33   there's been a lot of times you know to come to to get the same spec I remember [TS]

01:33:37   in the Mac Pros came out last year the new ones I guess I was earlier this year [TS]

01:33:42   you know people try to configure the same type of thing from Dell and it [TS]

01:33:46   wasn't gonna come in a court case I the Mac Pro and it was way more expensive [TS]

01:33:49   right and and laptops to like Wilshere Apple starting laptop price is $8.99 and [TS]

01:33:56   you know there's a lot of companies that sell you know 299 399 PC laptops but to [TS]

01:34:01   get the same specs it actually will cost more and you get a lesser build quality [TS]

01:34:05   not really fair but people have that belief and I think that when they see [TS]

01:34:11   little things they they're viewed through that prism and here's an example [TS]

01:34:16   I was at a family thing couple of weeks ago and somebody [TS]

01:34:21   somebody's barbecuing region compared you know and somebody had mentioned and [TS]

01:34:28   it wasn't in the context of hey I know you you you write about Apple it was [TS]

01:34:33   just people were talking about iPhones and had nothing to do with me being [TS]

01:34:36   present I was just so fly on the wall wasn't you know complain to me about it [TS]

01:34:42   but it was somebody a woman who is complaining because she still had an [TS]

01:34:48   iPhone 4 or for us I don't know which one but had to 30 pin adapter thing but [TS]

01:34:52   her husband had just gotten a new iPhone and his game at the lightning and [TS]

01:34:56   lightning adapter and she was like why did they do that it's just you know and [TS]

01:35:02   she and her her perspective is that they did it only to get them to buy a whole [TS]

01:35:06   bunch of $29 lightning cable and that is a ripoff but her annoyance was real in [TS]

01:35:13   terms of like now like a single charger in the kitchen doesn't work for both and [TS]

01:35:19   it's a short-term problem I just kept my mouth shut [TS]

01:35:23   people wonder like light what is John Gruber do in that situation you know [TS]

01:35:27   what I do I just picked up my beer and I keep my mouth shut and look around and [TS]

01:35:33   make sure that my dad doesn't do some stupid and be like what John knows [TS]

01:35:38   everything about you know I'm like ready to bolt from the chair maybe go join the [TS]

01:35:44   football game or something like that I do not want to get involved I dunno I [TS]

01:35:48   can explain to you now you know that is you know if they don't do it then we're [TS]

01:35:55   stuck with 30 pin adapter is forever and the 30 pin adapter was actually kinda [TS]

01:35:58   gross it was a weirdly unhappily type port people complained about that [TS]

01:36:06   adapter for years but it was weird and has served them when they retire and [TS]

01:36:12   they replaced it with port that is much better in every way than 30 pin and much [TS]

01:36:17   better in every way than micro USB it's dirty it's works up and down which is [TS]

01:36:24   amazing and annoys me even more and I have to deal with USB stuff now [TS]

01:36:30   and you know they can either make a port that better or they can never make a new [TS]

01:36:37   port and apples ways to do something better and within a few years all the [TS]

01:36:41   phones that are in use and all the iPad's erroneous will all be on [TS]

01:36:44   lightning and nobody will have that problem but I do understand it tonight [TS]

01:36:47   but she is you know didn't had never even entered into her the discussion the [TS]

01:36:52   never even occurred to her that the lightning adapter on her husband's phone [TS]

01:36:56   was better [TS]

01:36:57   was better that's the thing that she completely clearly did not see is [TS]

01:37:01   completely messed all she could see was that it was totally different totally [TS]

01:37:04   incompatible and therefore obviously a money grab and the thing that I think [TS]

01:37:10   hurts Apple in that regard I don't think that's even enters Apple's mind at all I [TS]

01:37:15   think whatever profits I think they do make a nice profit on $29 lightning [TS]

01:37:19   adapters are $19 whatever they saw him for but I don't I don't think materially [TS]

01:37:26   the day they add up to you know any significance there [TS]

01:37:31   right but I do think there's a customer satisfaction angle on their experience [TS]

01:37:37   better right [TS]

01:37:38   well but no but that it hurts it when you use a lightning adapter it does help [TS]

01:37:45   your customer satisfaction and I think it you know the only device you have [TS]

01:37:49   instead it then using it instead of micro USB is why Apple's gets better [TS]

01:37:54   scores but I do think there's a negative thing where people think they did this [TS]

01:37:58   just 22 practically steel $29 for me like I feel like maybe it they they [TS]

01:38:06   should rethink their pricing policy on things like extra doctors and their [TS]

01:38:12   margins for over again said it will hurt her problem but I feel like whatever [TS]

01:38:19   damage it would do their profit margins to sell things like lightning adapters [TS]

01:38:24   and you know everything that they sell for $29.50 you know really drop the [TS]

01:38:33   price a lot of those things and sold them closer to cost the goodwill would [TS]

01:38:38   be would be more valuable than whatever it would take to their profit margins is [TS]

01:38:43   my theory now again there might be some guy at apple with a spreadsheet that [TS]

01:38:47   says otherwise shaking his head right round the numbers you're wrong and he [TS]

01:38:54   doesn't even have an office chair he just sits on the throne of hundred [TS]

01:38:57   dollar bill [TS]

01:39:03   billion dollars in cash that mountain of cash for the Joker set fire to it is [TS]

01:39:10   just sitting atop their accountant count and lightning adapter is green eye shade [TS]

01:39:16   things [TS]

01:39:17   but I do I think people have this I notion that Apple is out [TS]

01:39:21   out in nickel and iron and nickel and diming it's not quite nickel and diming [TS]

01:39:26   like I do think people know that they don't you don't you know I think that's [TS]

01:39:31   part of the reason people are switching to Max's that you don't open your Mac [TS]

01:39:34   and getting tagged to buy antivirus and stuff like that [TS]

01:39:37   you open the Mac and they don't ask you to buy anything else so it's not nickel [TS]

01:39:41   and diming it's it's something else but that it's you know that they're they're [TS]

01:39:46   looking for money and that the stuff is way too expensive and I think also its [TS]

01:39:53   may be partly because they know who to blame you know the blame Apple whereas [TS]

01:39:56   in the old days it was notorious that every brand of phone had a different [TS]

01:40:01   custom adapter for power and that if you lost it got on my tears after going to [TS]

01:40:06   the Verizon store eat into everybody's phone and show them your phone model to [TS]

01:40:11   each model yet you can just keep saying I got a Nokia UDUB like yours might here [TS]

01:40:16   is my phone you know and they'd be like oh you need the Xcel 47802 be $50 they [TS]

01:40:24   were crazy expensive or if you wanted to do so you know you get one if you want [TS]

01:40:30   to buy a second one so you can charge your phone where you know and keep your [TS]

01:40:33   other one at home they were super expensive way more expensive than apples [TS]

01:40:37   but I feel like when it's your carrier doing it you just don't even think to [TS]

01:40:40   complain about it cuz you know they're gonna screw where is it I think people [TS]

01:40:44   feel like Apple shouldn't be screwing we had a mean we had collected so many of [TS]

01:40:49   those dock connector cord that I had him lying all over the house so you could [TS]

01:40:55   you could power a phone anywhere and now we're [TS]

01:40:59   at Al and a low point again until a build up my inventory and somebody the [TS]

01:41:04   other night just like a friend who lives up the street so they wanted to borrow [TS]

01:41:09   one of those cables for a week and they can have one of mine you got an extra [TS]

01:41:15   one you can give him yours but I'm not part with any of mine I like him I like [TS]

01:41:23   him that much I one more thing to hear the same Ryan block and yeah I can't I [TS]

01:41:40   couldn't listen to it because it just those kinds of things make me cringe I [TS]

01:41:45   haven't listened to about a million for the same reason [TS]

01:41:48   yeah [TS]

01:41:49   but [TS]

01:41:51   yeah so Ryan block and Veronica Belmont to get married couple years ago and they [TS]

01:41:59   decided to cancel their Comcast service veronica was on the phone is gonna [TS]

01:42:07   that's doing one for the team is calling you know that's that's one of those [TS]

01:42:11   things where where when you're a couple when one of you decide I'll call Comcast [TS]

01:42:16   you know you you don't have to do the dishes and I and she called just to say [TS]

01:42:24   we want to cancel Comcast sir I don't know it doesn't matter I guarantee [TS]

01:42:27   replacing it with FiOS or something like that but number one you know that they [TS]

01:42:32   pose to know what they're doing [TS]

01:42:36   co-founder of Engadget and a host of like more tech TV shows than anybody I [TS]

01:42:44   know probably are making an informed decision to cancel Comcast and she just [TS]

01:42:50   couldn't couldn't get the guide to cancel their service and then had to [TS]

01:42:55   hand the phone over to Ryan and he started recording a call and it's just [TS]

01:42:58   absurd I mean if you can take things like this usually happens you should [TS]

01:43:02   just google Ryan block Veronica Belmont cancel Comcast went viral as this absurd [TS]

01:43:11   the guides the guy was like why do you want slower internet and why won't you [TS]

01:43:18   just cancel my service is trying to understand why you want to get slower [TS]

01:43:23   internet I'm trying to understand why you won't cancel my service and it went [TS]

01:43:33   on and on like 10 minutes long and end the thing that's great is it went viral [TS]

01:43:36   and that is the gradual like addresses like Comcast Chief Operating Officer had [TS]

01:43:43   to address it and say that it was painful to listen to this call I'm not [TS]

01:43:47   surprised that we have been criticized respecting our customers is fundamental [TS]

01:43:52   and we fell short this instance I know these retention cause I guess it's an [TS]

01:43:57   internal memo [TS]

01:43:57   public distribution is retention calls her tough and I have tremendous [TS]

01:44:02   admiration for a retention professionals make it easy for customers to choose to [TS]

01:44:07   stay with Comcast that's so it's actually a number of states [TS]

01:44:14   forget where I read it probably the Verger someplace but didn't wrote about [TS]

01:44:19   the economics behind people's jobs and basically the whole incentive [TS]

01:44:25   compensation packages wrapped up in the number of people that they can convince [TS]

01:44:29   to stay you know I thought that I just bought it from listening to the part of [TS]

01:44:34   the caller heard that the guy was into it enough [TS]

01:44:36   was clearly not just get an hour you know salary was he was invested it was a [TS]

01:44:43   car salesman reversal like it's like a car salesmen [TS]

01:44:49   like they're selling it all over again but it's weird because it's like and car [TS]

01:44:53   salesmen I'm sure you know famous famously shady operators and then all [TS]

01:44:59   sorts of tricks but it's like and I'm sure they take advantage of some people [TS]

01:45:04   who come in naive or who are timid you know tough guys right but it's like if [TS]

01:45:15   we were in a car dealer you and I are going out to buy a convertible to spend [TS]

01:45:19   the summer road trip and we're gonna buy convertibles you and I go in and we [TS]

01:45:24   don't like over here and we start walking out the door and the guy tries [TS]

01:45:27   to keep us from looking at the door we're still walking out the door right [TS]

01:45:30   you can just walk you know shade is a car dealers dealer can be you know you [TS]

01:45:35   can just keep your feet and eventually you are out the door and you're not [TS]

01:45:38   listening whereas if you are already hooked up that's the thing you're hooked [TS]

01:45:43   up to auto bill Comcast $100 a month and even if you call your credit card and [TS]

01:45:49   they don't pay them they're gonna put your account collection until they [TS]

01:45:53   officially disconnect you [TS]

01:45:55   your you signed a thing that you're sending them $100 or $150 a month you [TS]

01:46:00   need them to do this and if they won't do it what what can you do this is such [TS]

01:46:06   rotten double-speak and Jackie Chan had posted on Twitter that a reminder that [TS]

01:46:11   and I forget the names of these services but those services that are you get [TS]

01:46:14   people to do a task 300 yeah yeah you can you can actually call that was so if [TS]

01:46:27   you don't want to sit on the phone with you know and it just ties right in with [TS]

01:46:32   me Lincoln to the George Orwell politics and the English language to make it easy [TS]

01:46:39   for customers to choose to stay with Comcast if that's not the most rotten [TS]

01:46:46   doublespeak I've ever heard that is so much more evil than if he just flat out [TS]

01:46:53   said to make it difficult for customers just right is it is exactly it is likes [TS]

01:47:06   likes 3+3 on one side and six on the other is to make it difficult for [TS]

01:47:12   customers to leave contest we have [TS]

01:47:19   I do I live in Comcast country cable 10 and literally our Skype call is getting [TS]

01:47:28   Creek I swear to god you can't make this up here starting this year [TS]

01:47:40   I you know pat myself on the back because we have city provided [TS]

01:47:52   internet service and so [TS]

01:47:55   and I have to use what I do for a land line we in philadelphia have a Comcast [TS]

01:48:03   provided city they literally they have the tallest skyscraper in philadelphia [TS]

01:48:12   is the Comcast Center they have just bought a plot of land a block away and [TS]

01:48:16   they're going to build a new tallest skyscraper your Internet should be super [TS]

01:48:23   fast thanks to them building to a completely non disconnect double [TS]

01:48:31   anyway but a run run run company cases this is terrible and that's it for me [TS]

01:48:41   for this week though I think I did you did you talk about Microsoft laughs no i [TS]

01:48:47   didnt yeah we could do that yeah homes 18,000 people over the next year but 12 [TS]

01:48:55   although most don't count from new Kia now I dunno I'd hate to make jokes about [TS]

01:49:04   Finland I don't wanna make jokes about last because you know there's gotta be [TS]

01:49:08   somebody who's listening to the shows one of them so you know I've lost jobs [TS]

01:49:14   it's not fun I tried to get laid off for years it didn't work it never happens to [TS]

01:49:24   the people want to know the people deserve it [TS]

01:49:27   like we're gonna have some layouts here's the list and then what about [TS]

01:49:34   buyouts maybe get up to early retirements they knew I was ya hides you [TS]

01:49:48   know kinda sad you know yeah you know the kind of needed as a business people [TS]

01:49:55   know and it's you know it's humbling because I think it's not that many years [TS]

01:50:03   ago when the idea of a Microsoft layoff [TS]

01:50:06   unthinkable yeah you know and it's a reminder you know a wake up call [TS]

01:50:11   everybody else you know for companies like Google and Apple and Amazon who are [TS]

01:50:16   you know the big tech companies of the last decade have never had a laugh that [TS]

01:50:23   you know you happen to Microsoft miracle happen anybody had layoffs but never [TS]

01:50:27   like a mass layoff and it hasn't been not a modern ya ya gotta be careful [TS]

01:50:36   about getting fat [TS]

01:50:38   did you read Ben Thompson species on breaking Microsoft up yeah it was a good [TS]

01:50:51   piece [TS]

01:50:52   and i think is gonna happen no I don't think so either because I think it would [TS]

01:50:58   of if that was on the table it would have happened instead of this would have [TS]

01:51:02   happened may be coincident with Satya Nadella taking over you know i mean [TS]

01:51:08   that's an alternate universe where that what do they do post bomber maybe his [TS]

01:51:13   break it up you know whereas now I don't I don't think that they would do that I [TS]

01:51:18   don't know that that is so just to recap his theory as idea is that Microsoft is [TS]

01:51:24   turning into a services company so that the hardware and operating system parts [TS]

01:51:28   should be [TS]

01:51:30   put into a different company and [TS]

01:51:33   run separately yeah it does make sense in oh and there's a certain there's a [TS]

01:51:38   certain what's the word it it just doesn't make sense they're at odds with [TS]

01:51:44   each other where there's a part of Microsoft that sees it as a company that [TS]

01:51:47   provides software 20 ends and now there's a part of the company that sees [TS]

01:51:50   itself as a friend and that's just not compatible and they can kind of yadda [TS]

01:51:56   yadda yadda to make it seem like it's compatible because the revenue and [TS]

01:52:01   profits are still coming in but it just does it have a common sense level it [TS]

01:52:05   just doesn't make sense that they can be providing these software companies to [TS]

01:52:09   make mobile devices and they're gonna make their own mobile devices without [TS]

01:52:14   favoring you know and everybody is trying to it never works you know so [TS]

01:52:18   Google you know it's provides offered OM's with Android and they make their [TS]

01:52:22   own Android devices but very few people use Google's Android devices they've [TS]

01:52:26   never really taken off you know and it's like the Nexus in some alternate world [TS]

01:52:30   where the Nexus phones are huge hits that you know Samsung isn't going to be [TS]

01:52:36   using Android yeah it does its work you know in like go back to the nineties [TS]

01:52:43   when Apple licensed the mac OS it you know just doesn't it didn't work [TS]

01:52:50   yeah so it's an interesting idea but [TS]

01:52:53   I just there's too much institutional [TS]

01:52:56   did you get rid of Windows now I think you know and I don't think it needs [TS]

01:53:02   Windows could be run as his own division but I think that they should stop [TS]

01:53:06   thinking of the Windows division as anything other than legacy just let it [TS]

01:53:09   be what it is and its PC operating system in an ever shrinking market but [TS]

01:53:13   that is huge and is probably going to level off like the shrinkage me know if [TS]

01:53:18   I just said you then IDC for this past quarter is at the PC market shrank 2 [TS]

01:53:22   percent year over year it seems like maybe the bleeding is over you know I [TS]

01:53:25   think it's gonna keep doing Ling and its gonna keep dwindling in terms of the [TS]

01:53:30   overall pie chart of computing devices because it's not just that smart phones [TS]

01:53:35   and tablets are replacing pieces that were adding multiple devices that are [TS]

01:53:40   used to be and that the share of them that are traditional PCs is getting [TS]

01:53:48   smaller [TS]

01:53:48   in addition to the fact that people are buying fewer actual unit of here but you [TS]

01:53:54   know and I think that's the problem [TS]

01:53:55   the whole basic problem with Windows 8 is trying to make this you know trying [TS]

01:53:59   to please two groups that want whereas if they just made a Windows 8 that was a [TS]

01:54:03   2007 here if you have a traditional laptop or a desktop PC here you go [TS]

01:54:10   here's a new version of Windows better than ever and we've got another entirely [TS]

01:54:14   new operating system [TS]

01:54:17   yeah [TS]

01:54:18   but it's weird now it's weird you know their butts his telescope memo was about [TS]

01:54:24   you know we're now company that helps people get things done [TS]

01:54:28   and they still have all this entertainment yeah stuff next they did [TS]

01:54:34   next making TV shows [TS]

01:54:36   yeah they've always has don't they still have the Xbox which does not fit into [TS]

01:54:41   them and it all and I think you know I've had that thought too I've tossed [TS]

01:54:46   out ideas like Netflix commissions TV shows why doesn't Apple Commission TV [TS]

01:54:51   shows for Apple TV and have no new Kevin Spacey show that only on Apple TV but [TS]

01:54:56   you know what their that way lies lack of focus I'm not saying Apple would [TS]

01:55:00   never do that particular thing but you know they certainly can't do all of them [TS]

01:55:04   you know making making TV shows was never with Microsoft is good that I have [TS]

01:55:12   always found that this whole thing that these companies think that they need to [TS]

01:55:16   do everything to be [TS]

01:55:18   counterproductive but yeah well I do think that there's always seem that way [TS]

01:55:25   to me like I was crazy in the nineties when on Microsoft started jointly with [TS]

01:55:30   NBC that MSNBC so what do you do me why would you make a CNN competitor your [TS]

01:55:37   Microsoft you know you know me I can see why somebody would want to make and CNN [TS]

01:55:42   competitor right [TS]

01:55:43   multiple people would but why would Microsoft why you know why do you feel [TS]

01:55:46   like you need everything including a news channel and and you know in the [TS]

01:55:51   whole thing you know now working out that I mean MSNBC define network but [TS]

01:55:57   damage and Microsoft Masson in MS NBC hasn't dude reminders of that forever [TS]

01:56:07   very strange we should kick sorry for us to buy microsoft I did see that there [TS]

01:56:14   you know that their stocks they did quarterly results today to an aid they [TS]

01:56:19   missed but only missed because of Nokia Nokia division did a little bit worse [TS]

01:56:24   than expected and the stock market reacted with no reaction whatsoever [TS]

01:56:29   which i think is right I don't think anybody should have been surprised by [TS]

01:56:33   that right I think common sense prevails and I know before we started recording [TS]

01:56:36   it looked like after hours Apple was about even to I don't know if it's all [TS]

01:56:40   true but that's always kind that's getting weird like having having the [TS]

01:56:45   stock market not panic after hours [TS]

01:56:48   yeah it seems like that the whole whole thing is kinda turned a bit yeah same [TS]

01:56:57   they seem to be a little bit more happy with what's going on display [TS]

01:57:02   yeah I mean the usual the usual suspects are still being jerks but looks like [TS]

01:57:06   it's nice and even taken around 94 bucks you know has been Thompson who is on the [TS]

01:57:16   show the couple weeks ago and I thought you made a very keen observation I've [TS]

01:57:19   never really heard before which is that the stock market rule rewards they got [TS]

01:57:25   feeling that even if you screw up you being accompanied their their evaluation [TS]

01:57:30   process even if you screw up you'll still be in business and that that's [TS]

01:57:35   where Apple got her for years and years where there's just a word used to be [TS]

01:57:39   this consensus that Apple is always on the precipice and one slip away from you [TS]

01:57:46   know the whole house of cards falling under and I feel like they've you know [TS]

01:57:51   none of these dire things have happened like margins collapsing of whatever [TS]

01:57:55   everybody sort of gotten the idea that Apple could screw up you know like they [TS]

01:57:58   could release and iPhone 6 that is not that popular and they are not going to [TS]

01:58:02   go under you know they could have the next I you know the next Mac you come [TS]

01:58:07   out and you know will be good would be good news but it's not going to you know [TS]

01:58:13   it's a house of cards it's gonna fall down to study foundation and only take [TS]

01:58:18   them [TS]

01:58:18   thirty-five years to slow learners [TS]

01:58:25   all right john wants thank you for joining me people can find to get more [TS]

01:58:30   and more at the gate get to get the form of treatment is where they very nice [TS]

01:58:36   website dot net the correct that is correct very nice website done for the [TS]

01:58:43   foremost wants treatment you've got I'm gonna turn this car around turning the [TS]

01:58:50   car around turning this car and great podcast with a couple of guys while [TS]

01:58:58   there's John Armstrong and Lex Friedman Lex Friedman that said I was a tip of my [TS]

01:59:06   tongue like feeling like a seal NOK case and they can get their Twitter you're [TS]

01:59:14   right we should do I wish I wish that I could specify for certain I messaged [TS]

01:59:24   users that just used the last message I was gonna be late for the show it as [TS]

01:59:30   John M so many John to get John Siracusa mean I don't want to see you as John M [TS]

01:59:37   not John M U bolt I'm Rights therein a most everybody basically but it's gotta [TS]

01:59:42   be the same for me with you if i text you wanna see John chiyoda-ku the hell [TS]

01:59:46   is that right now he calls me John G Chris crane chorus of the Johns [TS]