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  the incomparable number 237 mar 2015 we [TS]

  began this journey in june of 2011 when [TS]

  we watched a fine fine film called Star [TS]

  Wars sometimes called star wars episode [TS]

  for a new hope we conclude it now having [TS]

  watched what is at least for now the [TS]

  sixth and final star wars feature film [TS]

  star wars episode 3 colon revenge of the [TS]

  sith i believe i got the colon in the [TS]

  right place that time I've gotten it [TS]

  wrong everything holding is all over [TS]

  this movie [TS]

  yeah so 2005 fine a film that exists for [TS]

  only this is it we're here we're going [TS]

  to talk about Star Wars Episode three [TS]

  and then say no more about the prequels [TS]

  evermore joining me on this journey as [TS]

  many many of them have been here for the [TS]

  entire journey and i will introduce them [TS]

  first [TS]

  John siracusa hello want to go Jason go [TS]

  serenity Caldwell hi there this is the [TS]

  way Liberty dies Jason dan more'n hello [TS]

  thus if they were avenging not good to [TS]

  be here are one of our stalwart prequels [TS]

  visitors Steve lots [TS]

  what up my youngs this is where the fun [TS]

  begins [TS]

  this is this having fun begins I'm smart [TS]

  and fun and then sort of semi [TS]

  constipated semi Pete away [TS]

  well you know Steve you're so beautiful [TS]

  but that's only because you're in love [TS]

  this is the message of a treat [TS]

  wait no that's a better movie and also [TS]

  joining us is andy not co hello i just [TS]

  wanted to make sure it was really dead [TS]

  that's why I needed watch this is very [TS]

  very end [TS]

  kill it with fire and we're tired of the [TS]

  bodies and the headstones not just the [TS]

  headstones nuke it from orbit the only [TS]

  way to be sure ma so episode sorry [TS]

  revenge of the sith I think we should [TS]

  start as we always do by asking if [TS]

  anybody has any opening statements [TS]

  John in fact i do probably perhaps be [TS]

  the last star wars opening statement cuz [TS]

  i am I gonna have an opening statement [TS]

  about episode 7 of course you will like [TS]

  it will record right after we watch it I [TS]

  don't know if all I did I did the math I [TS]

  think we're probably gonna have to do [TS]

  like 10 episodes about episode 17 span [TS]

  of about we may do daily episodes in [TS]

  December one of the might just be drawn [TS]

  Syracuse's opening statements episode [TS]

  just like that one and then we'll move [TS]

  on to the conversation later but I enjoy [TS]

  having a newsreel 4 episode center this [TS]

  is your daily news rail update of [TS]

  episode 7 this is what John siracusa [TS]

  feels about this on day five day yes [TS]

  it's just like these movies we've [TS]

  existed for so long that it [TS]

  yeah I can have opening statements about [TS]

  them because I've had a long time to [TS]

  think about behind about episode 7 but [TS]

  anyway here we go for this one so the [TS]

  final movies in a trilogy they usually [TS]

  have a couple of advantages I mean most [TS]

  obviously you're anxious to find out how [TS]

  it all ends right [TS]

  episode 3 of course is undercut here by [TS]

  being part of a prequel trilogy we all [TS]

  know how it's gonna end we know who [TS]

  lives we know dies we know where [TS]

  everybody ends up so that's kind of a [TS]

  bummer for drama and this movie [TS]

  ah the last movie trilogy also usually [TS]

  benefits from having the audience be [TS]

  familiar with and have some affection [TS]

  for the characters episodes freeze [TS]

  undercut here by the previous two movies [TS]

  sort of failing to make these characters [TS]

  into real people that we actually care [TS]

  about i think this is also compounded by [TS]

  the first movie using a child actor for [TS]

  Anakin I which means we've only really [TS]

  had one movie with this version of [TS]

  mannequin and also by the way thing [TS]

  about this its kind of damning that the [TS]

  child Anakin and the adult Anakin seem [TS]

  like such completely separate characters [TS]

  like I don't even connect them at all in [TS]

  my mind and I don't like either one of [TS]

  them anyway [TS]

  well there's a connection ya know that [TS]

  episode 3 has none of these advantages [TS]

  that a final movie series usually has [TS]

  and after two movies of treading water [TS]

  on the question that should be [TS]

  motivating the entire prequel trilogy [TS]

  that is how did the good man whose looks [TS]

  father become Darth Vader it can be [TS]

  really hard for one movie 2 / to provide [TS]

  a convincing answer that even the best [TS]

  case and given this is the same group of [TS]

  people who brought us the first two [TS]

  prequels this is not the best-case [TS]

  that's worst-case [TS]

  as I said in the episode to podcast i [TS]

  initially held out hope that episode 2 [TS]

  would sort of learned from the lessons [TS]

  of episode 1 and take them to heart and [TS]

  rise above episode 12 actually be a [TS]

  semi-decent movie by the end of episode [TS]

  2 i'd lost all hope and had begun to [TS]

  think of the next movie and in series [TS]

  under the title in which it is [TS]

  permanently filed away in my mind [TS]

  star wars episode 3 let's get this over [TS]

  with [TS]

  so is it true that basically episode 3 [TS]

  is legless armless on a lava flow while [TS]

  you hold out your hand and beg for it [TS]

  one last time to turn away from the [TS]

  darkside with episode 3 was not supposed [TS]

  to be the chosen I knew it would not be [TS]

  chosen what I knew from the very [TS]

  beginning I am picturing John yelling [TS]

  that though we were friends we were [TS]

  brothers [TS]

  hi Jason I've got an opening stage [TS]

  alright Oh minor openings i know i'm [TS]

  breaking tradition here but I'm gonna do [TS]

  it because here's the thing that drives [TS]

  me absolutely insane about episode 3 is [TS]

  that there are hints of a potentially [TS]

  good movie here which is to say well now [TS]

  hear me out [TS]

  opening statement sorry I'm please play [TS]

  the opening statement gambit here where [TS]

  we can't stop her she is placed over the [TS]

  night I know everybody's gonna talk over [TS]

  me for like the second half pound is [TS]

  happening now I'm taking it now [TS]

  alright so the first two movies are crap [TS]

  in all bought wide variety of different [TS]

  ways that we have spoken up here but if [TS]

  each of the first two movies there are [TS]

  never scenes where I'm like yeah that [TS]

  almost kind of works pretty much every [TS]

  scene in the first two movies I'm like [TS]

  no this is just this is just terrible [TS]

  there's no there are no there's no [TS]

  potential redeeming factor here the the [TS]

  thing that drives me crazy about episode [TS]

  3 especially watch re-watching it i [TS]

  rewatched it tonight after having two [TS]

  thirds of the clone wars under my belt [TS]

  the clone wars animated series is that [TS]

  there is the potential for power here in [TS]

  seeing how the Republic Falls not even [TS]

  seeing how Anakin becomes Darth Vader [TS]

  but in seeing how the Republic falls in [TS]

  seeing how Palpatine basically engulfs [TS]

  the entirety of the Senate and to a [TS]

  certain extent seeing how Anakin false [TS]

  and there are little bits like there are [TS]

  there are bits of shining light in this [TS]

  mood [TS]

  except as soon as the the door starts to [TS]

  open and you were like maybe I'm in a [TS]

  good movie [TS]

  it shuts closed and spent like there are [TS]

  specific scenes which i'll probably [TS]

  mentioned when once we go through the [TS]

  the film where I'm like oh this actually [TS]

  has some emotional impact [TS]

  oh I'm actually am i invested in this [TS]

  movie here am i actually feeling [TS]

  emotions and then as soon as I i get [TS]

  that sort of glimmer of like oh I'm [TS]

  actually invested in this movie the [TS]

  movie reminds me just happy it is again [TS]

  and that drives me so crazy I like oh I [TS]

  can actually feel passion for know maybe [TS]

  no maybe know and right at the end [TS]

  no no not want interested in but side [TS]

  note to people who listen to the show [TS]

  life we are opening the no drinking game [TS]

  so you take one shot or one beer every [TS]

  time someone makes the no joke have a [TS]

  lot of boosting but yeah i am i'm so [TS]

  glad that i have a giant bottle of [TS]

  whiskey here [TS]

  ya know i am no social yeah alright so [TS]

  in in conclusion I everytime i watch [TS]

  episode 3i get more and more frustrated [TS]

  because there could have been a good [TS]

  movie here they did learn a couple of [TS]

  things from episode 1 episode 2 there [TS]

  are scenes in here that almost works [TS]

  there is one scene that I think actually [TS]

  is perfectly sold in otherwise terribly [TS]

  crappy movie and it just it infuriates [TS]

  me especially when we have something as [TS]

  good as the clone wars basically now [TS]

  proceeding it all right any other [TS]

  opening statements [TS]

  yeah i got a quick 1i think i said at [TS]

  the tail end of the episode to podcast [TS]

  that you should be excited for episode 3 [TS]

  because this is the good one in case [TS]

  that wasn't abundantly clear that was [TS]

  just a joke and ok there is no good one [TS]

  and if you accidentally thought that I [TS]

  was serious and there was a good one and [TS]

  you went and watched this film thinking [TS]

  that perhaps that you would be in for a [TS]

  decent film i am deeply and hardly sorry [TS]

  ru ru revising your previous remarks [TS]

  about episode 3 i'm clarifying is [TS]

  obvious but sometimes you know it [TS]

  entirely clear when I'm not being [TS]

  serious so sorry folks [TS]

  yeah dan I was gonna mention so I i saw [TS]

  this movie in the theater in 2005 which [TS]

  I realizes is now 10 years ago I have [TS]

  not seen it since then I'll and I know a [TS]

  lot at the time as people have alluded [TS]

  to it was kind of help that like alright [TS]

  maybe this one will finally be good if [TS]

  anybody again like Steve said if anybody [TS]

  is laboring under that misapprehension I [TS]

  would contend perhaps they have not seen [TS]

  this movie in a while [TS]

  in some ways episode 1 you know has the [TS]

  the harshest time of it because it was [TS]

  the one that was expected by this point [TS]

  in the prequel trilogy the bar has been [TS]

  set so episode 1i thinking in contrast [TS]

  with episodes two and three in some ways [TS]

  doesn't do is badly you know in the with [TS]

  the benefit of hindsight because without [TS]

  all that hype building it up over all [TS]

  those years it's merely a really crappy [TS]

  movie as opposed to being like a [TS]

  travesty episode 3 I don't think [TS]

  necessarily has that it was not helped [TS]

  in any way by that because you know by [TS]

  the time it came out weird experience to [TS]

  really crappy movies so if i had to pick [TS]

  one of all three these movies to be the [TS]

  best I would actually stabbed myself [TS]

  because that is preferable none of these [TS]

  are good so i will wrong argument i will [TS]

  just say that I agree that the clone [TS]

  wars TV show it shows a great example of [TS]

  how this same automatic story could be [TS]

  told much better and I'm will be glad to [TS]

  see the end of this entire trilogy and [TS]

  look forward to wiping the slate clean [TS]

  i also have an opening statement oh my [TS]

  god everybody this is the opening [TS]

  statement partisan will include [TS]

  conversation but this is the opening [TS]

  statement episode will record that a [TS]

  lady please go ahead Andy well I just as [TS]

  a teaser for a comment that might come [TS]

  later in the show i have one very real [TS]

  reason to be grateful to episode 3 but [TS]

  let's leave that as a teaser for her for [TS]

  later I will say that I semi enjoyed [TS]

  episode 1 because i thought it had a [TS]

  really great ending not just the fact [TS]

  that it ended and [TS]

  knowing that there's going to be two [TS]

  more movies after this and this is just [TS]

  setting the stage I had faith through [TS]

  episode 2 saying that well this is its [TS]

  episode 2 so it is the middle part of [TS]

  the trilogy it has to carry a lot of [TS]

  water for the entire trilogy and set up [TS]

  the finale the finale there i'm reminded [TS]

  of a of a joke from pdq bach if you're [TS]

  familiar with pdq bach that's a cake for [TS]

  real composer who keeps pretending to [TS]

  keep discovering lost works from a [TS]

  really bad baroque composer and he says [TS]

  every time we discover a new piece by [TS]

  pdq bach it's always with a great sense [TS]

  of anticipation because we feel like [TS]

  this new piece can't possibly be as bad [TS]

  as the others that we found and [TS]

  nonetheless and so but it becomes it and [TS]

  there's a ton of this is a point in the [TS]

  car crash where you're just gonna have [TS]

  to find some good to say that well I've [TS]

  never had an airbag deployed before it [TS]

  might be an interesting experience to [TS]

  talk about later you may as well by the [TS]

  third ticket i don't think it was as bad [TS]

  as I I'm like damn like I think this is [TS]

  must be the third time I've seen the [TS]

  movie lifetime which is incredible to [TS]

  for me to say about a Star Wars movie [TS]

  it's not as bad as five years of hearing [TS]

  people talk about the movie has set me [TS]

  up for but it was still pretty not great [TS]

  just add one thing the Andes point about [TS]

  like not even see a long time I just [TS]

  realize i saw episode one in the theater [TS]

  in the first 24 hours more time and more [TS]

  times than I've seen this intense [TS]

  telling its tellin ya it is i can't i [TS]

  can't remember anything like I could [TS]

  remember half the scenes from this movie [TS]

  and that should tell you something that [TS]

  I remember the I've only seen this movie [TS]

  this is the third or second and a half [TS]

  time I've seen this movie because I [TS]

  attempted to watch this [TS]

  I want to say in 2007 when I was stuck [TS]

  in ithaca for a summer and i had i watch [TS]

  the entirety of the matrix trilogy and [TS]

  I'm like you know what I'm gonna I'm [TS]

  gonna get through the prequels haha [TS]

  I've recalibrated my sensor 20 by seeing [TS]

  the entire matrix trilogy i can now [TS]

  reevaluate was just like you know at the [TS]

  matrix trilogy deeply flawed but you [TS]

  know at least washable when you're stuck [TS]

  in a basement [TS]

  were you thinking that was something [TS]

  that was impact on my back in the box to [TS]

  dip their did your father or the mob [TS]

  some money or something [TS]

  unlike the prequels the matrix trilogy [TS]

  does contain a good movie [TS]

  yeah it does contain one good movie and [TS]

  one-half arguably but yeah yeah yeah so [TS]

  there's you know I'm like I have nowhere [TS]

  else to go my car's broken i'm just [TS]

  gonna I'm gonna watch terrible movies i [TS]

  could not get through 10 minutes of this [TS]

  film the only way I got through it [TS]

  tonight was by watching it 2x speed [TS]

  which by the way I actually recommend if [TS]

  you're ever going to watch the prequels [TS]

  again [TS]

  interesting I to have an opening remark [TS]

  I know it's kyle i thought this would be [TS]

  totally crazy for the hosts have an [TS]

  opening statement then everybody did an [TS]

  opening statement [TS]

  John siracusa has started a tradition [TS]

  apparently my own statement i like damn [TS]

  i want to say i have only seen this [TS]

  movie before yesterday only seen it once [TS]

  i saw it in the theater actually saw it [TS]

  in the theater in boston massachusetts [TS]

  where i was before the last I want to [TS]

  say macworld expo I don't know if the [TS]

  2005 macworld expo was the last one in [TS]

  Boston but anyway I was there for that [TS]

  and I had a free day and episode 3 came [TS]

  out so I watched it and then never [TS]

  watched it again and i think that is I [TS]

  don't know whether it's a commentary on [TS]

  the movie or on the prequels being kind [TS]

  of this obligatory thing that leads to [TS]

  like why I gotta see em all but then [TS]

  once they're done I don't need to see [TS]

  them again but I've revisited episode 1 [TS]

  and even episode 2 cents a few times [TS]

  episode 3 never I don't know what that [TS]

  means my big statement we will [TS]

  definitely talk about this some more is [TS]

  i want to mention the plight of the [TS]

  character of darth vader i refer you to [TS]

  Darth Vader as the character from the [TS]

  original trilogy not the character of [TS]

  Anakin Skywalker who assumes the the [TS]

  name Darth Vader midway through episode [TS]

  3 we constantly assigned that [TS]

  from apparently out of a hat I will you [TS]

  know Taranis that was Vader's the name [TS]

  midi-chlorians told him terrenas and [TS]

  Plagueis and I insidious so insidious [TS]

  and the rest were taken so the next one [TS]

  in the dimness like thesaurus is data I [TS]

  guess is there a Darth gumdrop over [TS]

  there or did they just always just go to [TS]

  that same section of the dictionary drop [TS]

  was not the most successful set it turns [TS]

  out he darted bad stuff Lance yeah yeah [TS]

  Darth fighting guy so I mentioned Darth [TS]

  Vader because I feel like one of the [TS]

  core problems with that I have with this [TS]

  movie and with the entire prequel [TS]

  trilogy is it's hard for me to connect [TS]

  the Darth Vader we see in the original [TS]

  trilogy with this character in this [TS]

  character [TS]

  not only does not end up in a place that [TS]

  I feel really connects to where Darth [TS]

  Vader is in the in the original trilogy [TS]

  but more to the point I feel like the [TS]

  fall of Anakin Skywalker does not map to [TS]

  who at who either Darth Vader is in the [TS]

  original trilogy or who I choose to [TS]

  believe Darth Vader is in the original [TS]

  trilogy and I think that's a fundamental [TS]

  problem with the prequels that is the [TS]

  fundamental problem with episode 3 so [TS]

  that's my kingdom by which you mean he's [TS]

  not played by James Earl Jones sir james [TS]

  earl jones in there [TS]

  I just I i will I think we'll talk about [TS]

  it more but I feel like mannequins [TS]

  descent as we go through it is not [TS]

  fitting of where Darth Vader ends up [TS]

  because it's really dumb [TS]

  it's that it's not sensible in anyway [TS]

  doctor is oscillating and evil and [TS]

  Anakin Skywalker is just kind of a chump [TS]

  but i will say as evil as as Vader is in [TS]

  the original trilogy i had not [TS]

  envisioned him slicing of a bunch of [TS]

  kids in the prequel trilogy [TS]

  well that's to show that he's really [TS]

  evil Steve otherwise you would know I [TS]

  don't like I would like to think that [TS]

  Anakin makes a series of terrible [TS]

  choices to take the cheap and easy way [TS]

  towards whatever as opposed to know he [TS]

  was just easily use very easily [TS]

  bamboozled by the sucker [TS]

  he's a sucker it is not that bright no [TS]

  yeah that's right [TS]

  typing the chosen answer but not that [TS]

  bright you know in spaceballs when [TS]

  they're like [TS]

  because good is dumb it turns out the [TS]

  evil is also is dumb [TS]

  alright should we should we recap this [TS]

  movie should i watch likes him off [TS]

  already home [TS]

  war war that's my heart like to what are [TS]

  you doing I was right huh [TS]

  absolutely nothing say it again least it [TS]

  doesn't say taxation this time riding [TS]

  anyone living or less than making access [TS]

  ID make it let me scroll exciting what's [TS]

  its water it's time we go to war [TS]

  negotiations sure nothing is more [TS]

  exciting than ! and we get one right off [TS]

  the bat heated debate you gotta give it [TS]

  to him [TS]

  they got they got the X ! in that I i [TS]

  was going to say about this the thing [TS]

  that bugs me about this is like one of [TS]

  the like second lines or something is [TS]

  there are heroes on both sides like know [TS]

  there are there are there that earlier [TS]

  of the war the other side is evil the [TS]

  evil side doesn't get heroes those are [TS]

  called villains George their villainous [TS]

  right like they did they got off with [TS]

  the war and then immediately sabotage [TS]

  themselves with their heroes on both [TS]

  sides like wait what [TS]

  like can't we just have a single black [TS]

  and cool where everyone is awesome [TS]

  watching this to get the sense that like [TS]

  some of the people working on this we're [TS]

  working off the script with the salmon [TS]

  pages and the other people working on [TS]

  this off the script the blue pages and [TS]

  the people working out the script with [TS]

  yellow pages [TS]

  it's a bit jumbled isn't it yeah but it [TS]

  might give you something for me is our [TS]

  is is the script does this scroll think [TS]

  that the people reading the scroll don't [TS]

  know that Palpatine is Darth Sidious [TS]

  don't move the whole trilogy is kinda [TS]

  predicated on that and get the whole [TS]

  trilogy is predicated on people not [TS]

  really realizing that which is [TS]

  transparent from the beginning right but [TS]

  like it was a third movie and they're [TS]

  saying like opacity Chancellor Palpatine [TS]

  was get like we're following is it isn't [TS]

  a scroll talking to the audience we know [TS]

  that he city is like why are you [TS]

  pretending to make any sense well that's [TS]

  the weird thing that you can learn from [TS]

  those the clone wars thing not to drink [TS]

  drank too much of that into it but like [TS]

  nobody else aside from like Count Dooku [TS]

  knows the dark cities and Chancellor [TS]

  Palpatine are the same person so like [TS]

  General Grievous in theory does not know [TS]

  that which would make that interesting [TS]

  but it's not communicated the movie [TS]

  anywhere it is not nor nor are we really [TS]

  dealing with the fact like Palpatine in [TS]

  this movie and Palpatine throughout the [TS]

  clone wars could have been perceived as [TS]

  you know that Jedi mind trick that you [TS]

  see in the original series where the [TS]

  weak-willed can be controlled by [TS]

  somebody with a stronger mind turns out [TS]

  that's Palpatine's big power is that he [TS]

  can control people who should not [TS]

  otherwise be able to fall under the [TS]

  control of Jedi mind tricks and if you [TS]

  assume that a lot of things seem more [TS]

  interesting that was work a lot better [TS]

  yeah they were disgusting or if you [TS]

  could do that to the audience I didn't [TS]

  have to invent whole cloth that's that's [TS]

  such a sign of a movie that's not [TS]

  working when you find yourself writing a [TS]

  better movie in its place [TS]

  yeah that was doing that so often during [TS]

  this movie [TS]

  yes and that's what frustrates me so the [TS]

  cross suffers from a lot of the same [TS]

  problem as the rest of the writing in [TS]

  this script which i will call [TS]

  declarative sentence disease which is to [TS]

  say every single line of dialogue is I [TS]

  want this this is that that is this and [TS]

  it's like all right so we don't know how [TS]

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  the uncomfortable okay back to star wars [TS]

  i am excited to have another big villain [TS]

  introduced in the crawl that we neither [TS]

  know nor care i'm doing better movie [TS]

  interview indeed had also why did the [TS]

  droids into a droid leader he's only [TS]

  partially dried Steve not behind no [TS]

  natural yeah I know yeah I'll its [TS]

  organic which is also unclear his [TS]

  wheezing lungs his heart and his I [TS]

  George why does this robot have [TS]

  emphysema you tellin you would you know [TS]

  that if you saw the clone wars animated [TS]

  series [TS]

  yeah how do we watch every inch counts [TS]

  the clone wars animated series it was [TS]

  clearly made by better people in this [TS]

  film [TS]

  it's okay that we don't know why he [TS]

  wheezes I said we didn't know why Darth [TS]

  Vader result breathing and as master new [TS]

  hope we're behind with it is confusing [TS]

  because it's like is he a droid or a [TS]

  cyborg or a person because why would a [TS]

  drawing why would a droid cop there's a [TS]

  difference between breathing and [TS]

  coughing and there's there is a bit [TS]

  let's go to that the larger the larger [TS]

  point is that like with Count Dooku we [TS]

  are introduced to a major villain in the [TS]

  movie with the kraal which is stupid and [TS]

  that also we have the the inciting [TS]

  action of the movie is the kidnapping of [TS]

  the Chancellor which also of course [TS]

  happens in text in the crawl rather than [TS]

  seeing him so this kind of keys into the [TS]

  word that comes to my mind most when [TS]

  thinking about this movie and that is [TS]

  unearned which is to say all these [TS]

  things that happen are under and so for [TS]

  example we get like the Jedi showing up [TS]

  to rescue Palpatine and [TS]

  services like general Kenobi we meet [TS]

  again we're like we don't know anything [TS]

  about like we have no context for that [TS]

  whatsoever like that does not exist so [TS]

  that they're trying to bring up the sort [TS]

  of like Oh they've had this game of cat [TS]

  and mouse and they're like these [TS]

  antagonists and embassies and it's like [TS]

  but that's honored because we don't know [TS]

  anything about that were just told that [TS]

  it exists and in some cases not even [TS]

  told that exists left to infer it so [TS]

  there's a lot of clumsiness because a [TS]

  lot of stuff that you were sort of [TS]

  assumed to have known things this this [TS]

  movie has a problem with having a lot of [TS]

  texts no subtext and then like all this [TS]

  stuff it assumes you know which is not [TS]

  subtext it's like getting back to my [TS]

  opening statement where like if you if [TS]

  you had two movies is the last movie [TS]

  you've got to care about these [TS]

  characters but you can't have an opening [TS]

  a movie that opens with a set piece with [TS]

  the battle unless it's involving hey [TS]

  it's your old friends again like I mean [TS]

  opening return the Jedi it's your old [TS]

  friends in the trying to get hot why do [TS]

  you care about hot because there was two [TS]

  other movies why do you care what ppl [TS]

  rescuing because there's two other [TS]

  movies like as opposed to oh it's these [TS]

  two fools right like it like that huh [TS]

  you get any it's not such a bad idea to [TS]

  have an opening set piece with a space [TS]

  battle but if it opens and you're like [TS]

  final care about any people in space but [TS]

  I don't care about what they're doing i [TS]

  don't care about what's at stake [TS]

  I don't care about like it's just it's [TS]

  so hard to make a good third movie when [TS]

  the first two were so terrible [TS]

  unless you're gonna somehow make me love [TS]

  these characters like you have to start [TS]

  your starting from zero which is [TS]

  terrible how can you start the third [TS]

  movie from zero yeah and so here not to [TS]

  talk about the clone wars too much but i [TS]

  but i am going to bring it up because I [TS]

  feel like it's relevant to this movie I [TS]

  do kind of feel that a lot of what was [TS]

  done in the Clone Wars was Lucasfilm and [TS]

  probably Lucas to a lesser extent [TS]

  realizing hey we have the potential for [TS]

  like interesting things to happen in [TS]

  this movie but we don't have anything [TS]

  set up but no one cares [TS]

  there's no there's no conflict there's [TS]

  no real resolution there's no excitement [TS]

  so how about we fill in five seasons of [TS]

  backstory to make people actually care [TS]

  about those characters and like I really [TS]

  do think there's a difference watching [TS]

  the third film with knowledge of all of [TS]

  the things that happen in the Clone Wars [TS]

  and watching the film as most of us did [TS]

  in the theater when the clone wars [TS]

  didn't exist because i like I I feel [TS]

  like a lot of things like oh shoot [TS]

  ok let's say you want to make the order [TS]

  66 that much bigger betrayal skipping [TS]

  you know just minor spoilers here [TS]

  hey how about we make it commander cody [TS]

  that sets everything off just with [TS]

  people when you're watching this the [TS]

  first time you're like that that whose [TS]

  to the commander cody i don't care i'm [TS]

  sorry I'm swearing like left and right [TS]

  here but I feel like it's important but [TS]

  yeah like this will make a great special [TS]

  edition later I was kind of okay with [TS]

  some of these appearances of some of [TS]

  these characters because you can get too [TS]

  bogged down by saying well everything [TS]

  has to have a four-page long backstory [TS]

  to it the the with one of these darts [TS]

  really all you need you just need dougie [TS]

  mcbadbat guy he's the guy is gonna fight [TS]

  these obi-wan making sure that he's got [TS]

  something distracted so he can't be with [TS]

  Anakin a time when he's going to be very [TS]

  very vulnerable [TS]

  I don't really I i think it was a clumsy [TS]

  thing to have so we meet again for the [TS]

  last time for the first time but it's [TS]

  like really that characters all about [TS]

  well what if we make one if we have like [TS]

  of say mostly robotic sixth floor that's [TS]

  got like eight arms and 41 attachments [TS]

  for his lightsabers and they'll go all [TS]

  spinny and stabby sold don't waste time [TS]

  on total give me his bro I don't need to [TS]

  know what school he went from just show [TS]

  me the spin east and west of the biggest [TS]

  problem for things that are left out is [TS]

  the same one that was for episode 2 [TS]

  which is that there's this supposed [TS]

  report and this Brotherhood Brotherhood [TS]

  between obi-wan and Anakin and they're [TS]

  all these great adventures they've gone [TS]

  on and and fixes that Anakin's got no be [TS]

  one out of and we hear about him and [TS]

  they sound really cool but we don't get [TS]

  to see that we can see them talk about [TS]

  it in like short little clips i sat on [TS]

  couch is a lot we saw that there were [TS]

  here on the couch together we weren't [TS]

  around someone's talking but I remember [TS]

  that was two movies are those were good [TS]

  times [TS]

  those are great tile that couch on 02 [TS]

  reticular doesn't count that one that [TS]

  was an ottoman [TS]

  so basically this is about the the [TS]

  corruption mannequin and occasional [TS]

  seating [TS]

  yeah well we go back to the what made [TS]

  the original trilogy successful the [TS]

  original trilogy had many of these same [TS]

  problems where it's like we don't you [TS]

  know we we are too assuming that these [TS]

  people have these adventures and these [TS]

  people are fighting you know the [TS]

  rebellion in between movies and all this [TS]

  crazy stuff has happened [TS]

  but the report on screen is so good that [TS]

  we believe it [TS]

  the difference is that interesting [TS]

  things happened in those movies to know [TS]

  interesting things happen in these they [TS]

  were not sitting on the couch [TS]

  they did not get eaten or attacked by a [TS]

  wampa all of the interesting things [TS]

  happen when we left the theater and went [TS]

  away for a year [TS]

  yeah and when a movie is working you [TS]

  don't notice these things it's really [TS]

  between working and not working sir [TS]

  although again with a third movie in a [TS]

  in a in a series as John said you can [TS]

  use the momentum that you've built up to [TS]

  do shorthand to get PE audience invested [TS]

  and you had a moment if Penn that's the [TS]

  problem here is that we General Grievous [TS]

  is a blank Count Dooku at least we [TS]

  remember him from the last movie but [TS]

  he's he's barely did anything in the [TS]

  last minute he doesn't last long enough [TS]

  and he doesn't last long in this movie [TS]

  and there's this other coughing robot [TS]

  that's happening with lots of collected [TS]

  lightsabers [TS]

  um and so and so we don't see ya we we [TS]

  don't have any of that momentum to use [TS]

  here which is which is part of the [TS]

  problem plus plus we know they're going [TS]

  to rescue the bad guy [TS]

  which means we know that this is all [TS]

  addition the others don't need that the [TS]

  funding the root problem of George Lucas [TS]

  decided this was entirely going to be a [TS]

  story about how Palpatine conned [TS]

  everybody from the first you know ten [TS]

  minutes of the Phantom Menace referring [TS]

  to Palpatine essentially setting this [TS]

  thing up this is the problem is that [TS]

  it's all a sham and so as if you are I'm [TS]

  like what you have it going to go save [TS]

  Palpatine but it's always set up so you [TS]

  know I I don't even have a rooting [TS]

  interest like I do it like yeah they're [TS]

  gonna say hon that's good we like on [TS]

  it's like oh they're gonna go say [TS]

  Palpatine because its ground it's a [TS]

  fundamentally the problem with this is [TS]

  fundamentally lazy because it's relying [TS]

  on the fact that we are you guys all of [TS]

  the episodes 4 5 & 6 right we're gonna [TS]

  tell you the untold stories of how all [TS]

  that came around but it turns out that [TS]

  we're just going to connect the dots in [TS]

  the most linear on surprising way that [TS]

  we can think of just to get word [TS]

  literally here to get from point A [TS]

  Anakin Skywalker's a little kid to point [TS]

  B Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader there [TS]

  are no surprises thrown him but and [TS]

  there's no there's no sense of it like [TS]

  everyone in it [TS]

  this has to be a dunce like for it to [TS]

  work is you just it doesn't make any [TS]

  sense everyone has to look stupid [TS]

  there's nothing clever going on and does [TS]

  after the fact that you know during it [TS]

  doesn't feel true after the fact if you [TS]

  examine it doesn't make any sense like [TS]

  it is the worst that's why you know [TS]

  jason said that he has difficulty [TS]

  connecting this Vader with the the video [TS]

  from the original trilogy in some ways [TS]

  that's a blessing that I these movies [TS]

  don't connect for me in any way but it [TS]

  just shows like you haven't actually [TS]

  explained how we got there those movies [TS]

  start [TS]

  everything is in place in those movies [TS]

  is not explained by these three movies [TS]

  323 was ended by extrapolate far from [TS]

  these movies it does not look like the [TS]

  original trilogy like it just doesn't [TS]

  look like that doesn't make any sense i [TS]

  think these guys are all losers [TS]

  everybody's stupid the Jedi are stupid [TS]

  it Palpatine like well they're not [TS]

  they're not necessarily stupid that the [TS]

  weather one of the many failings of this [TS]

  trilogy is that they never make you [TS]

  think about how brilliant this plan to [TS]

  basically get rid of the public and [TS]

  established the Empire is my rear yeah [TS]

  the idea the idea that i'm going to [TS]

  slowly gained power i'm going to [TS]

  basically create my own set of troops [TS]

  are we are going to be like the heroes [TS]

  to defend everybody people are going to [TS]

  think that we've got these Jedi that are [TS]

  actually commanding these troops were [TS]

  actually we're just dispersing the Jedi [TS]

  to make sure that they're gonna be [TS]

  overwhelmed by 3230 clone troopers when [TS]

  I need to get them all out of the way to [TS]

  protect against this guy I admit this is [TS]

  a case of your bored watching this [TS]

  terrible movies you're writing a better [TS]

  movie in its place but it was [TS]

  potentially a really good plan [TS]

  they just never because they were rather [TS]

  much rather will have us and have us [TS]

  believe that Anakin is this money I teen [TS]

  tiger beat like chosen it's so tragic [TS]

  and dusky that he's been tearing this [TS]

  way to save the life of his love like no [TS]

  that's I don't buy that either the [TS]

  problem is that to Lucas in this [TS]

  particular connect the dots game what's [TS]

  important to him is the dots and not the [TS]

  connections between them we have to have [TS]

  the gym locker dot in this months ago to [TS]

  show pakistan in the political science i [TS]

  would say which you know like i said it [TS]

  is one of the root problem here is that [TS]

  is that it in fact as political science [TS]

  it's bad political science because what [TS]

  he's really doing is telling the rise of [TS]

  Hitler allegory the idea with all of [TS]

  these rises of dictators is everybody [TS]

  goes along with it because it's a [TS]

  gradual slide it is the parable of the [TS]

  frog and the gradually boiling pot of [TS]

  water you know the what ends up [TS]

  opening is you turn around one day and [TS]

  you realize oh my god we turned into an [TS]

  empire but that's not what happens this [TS]

  because that first that wouldn't be very [TS]

  exciting series of science fiction [TS]

  action movies I suppose it would be [TS]

  boring political science but this is [TS]

  already boring political science so what [TS]

  we get is taxation again if you would [TS]

  ask me at the beginning what's the [TS]

  trilogy going to be about I'd be like [TS]

  it's going to be about a kid who's [TS]

  brilliant and he's gonna end and as the [TS]

  lead the light of the Jedi is fading and [TS]

  the light of the of the the Emperor he [TS]

  is on the rise [TS]

  he's torn between these two the fading [TS]

  good guys and the rising bad guys and he [TS]

  make some bad decisions that end him in [TS]

  a really deep dark place because along [TS]

  with the whole galaxy right [TS]

  instead what we get as well it's really [TS]

  a story about a dictator tricking [TS]

  everybody so that he can rise to power [TS]

  that is really what George Lucas thinks [TS]

  these movies are about when I would our [TS]

  take a step further and argue that that [TS]

  you know even if that's what you thought [TS]

  the movies were gonna be out about [TS]

  Anakin's fall i would argue that they [TS]

  shouldn't have been i think because it's [TS]

  really well as we're going to see later [TS]

  on in this movie it becomes really hard [TS]

  especially in a Star Wars movie which [TS]

  even if it gets dark is still supposed [TS]

  to be sort of an adventure rights that's [TS]

  really precise with a character who is [TS]

  going to do terrible things really the [TS]

  story in my mind and he's totally right [TS]

  you're writing a better story to go [TS]

  along should be about obi-wan breads [TS]

  well it's kind it's the counter a [TS]

  counterpoint of obi-wan and Anakin right [TS]

  is ideally the story here is that one of [TS]

  them is this person who is who has [TS]

  always dreamed of being a Jedi but the [TS]

  Jedi are fading out which is part of my [TS]

  problem with this by the way is that in [TS]

  the original trilogy you get the sense [TS]

  that the Jedi have been fading away [TS]

  where it's like well no it was more of a [TS]

  lightsaber away in about 10 minutes [TS]

  already more or less forgotten about the [TS]

  Jedi by the time of episode 4 had ever [TS]

  as we've covered this before that [TS]

  everyone just forgot that i never seen [TS]

  anyone has never seen what is this crazy [TS]

  religion you're talking about the Jedi [TS]

  are not allowed to be spoken of they [TS]

  were and they were expunged in the [TS]

  program's exactly and then a [TS]

  counterpoint is obi-wan who's basically [TS]

  soldiering one and and yard I suppose [TS]

  soldiering on everything's falling apart [TS]

  what is the last thing we have in the [TS]

  last thing we have is to get us set up [TS]

  for these kids [TS]

  and that and sort of like I have to [TS]

  retreat everything is sad but I'm going [TS]

  to find a way through so that there's a [TS]

  glimmer of hope for the future a new [TS]

  hope in the future right and that's not [TS]

  what we get but the problem is that [TS]

  fundamentally what happens is that every [TS]

  single important thing that goes on [TS]

  every single piece of important [TS]

  character development happens to Steve's [TS]

  point about not connecting the dots [TS]

  the problem is that the rationale for [TS]

  every single thing from Anakin's fall to [TS]

  the fall of the republic is it happened [TS]

  because the script said so well right [TS]

  there's no there is no connection there [TS]

  is nothing there and it is to a [TS]

  tangential point about the people forget [TS]

  about Jedi was he usually used to watch [TS]

  a recent episode of Star Wars rebels [TS]

  which is quite entertaining and people [TS]

  are talking about Jedi like ah yeah [TS]

  those guys are fairy tales I'm like it's [TS]

  been 15 years just misses like if you [TS]

  forgot about like oh yeah [TS]

  SEAL Team six right those guys are just [TS]

  a myth that happened ten years ago where [TS]

  the Jedi secret to agents [TS]

  well if you weren't involved in a border [TS]

  dispute I could see how you would not [TS]

  have run out of the bed there enough [TS]

  well I mean if you think about it if [TS]

  you're talking about outer rim planets [TS]

  right you've probably never seen a Jedi [TS]

  again unless there's apparently they [TS]

  need the internet there could be no [TS]

  they're considered the mythical the [TS]

  mythical saviors of the galaxy right and [TS]

  then if you also put the Jedi in the [TS]

  Jews situation for making a world war [TS]

  two allegory do it like no I'm serious [TS]

  like you put them you put them into the [TS]

  slot into the the Jedi do slot and you [TS]

  think about it haha yes you should stop [TS]

  that presentation please the terms jus [TS]

  days haha [TS]

  boo alright alright you take that [TS]

  hypothesis the Empire is probably like [TS]

  we don't want to hear about Jedi's we [TS]

  don't want Jedi's mentioned we don't so [TS]

  if you grew up in that area you're not [TS]

  going to talk about Jedi's you're not [TS]

  going to hear about Jedi's because it's [TS]

  basically a taboo topic the topic what [TS]

  you get arrested are but even taboo [TS]

  topics people know about them they know [TS]

  they don't they know right engineers is [TS]

  not long enough [TS]

  they're not legends at that point right [TS]

  there there there there memory that that [TS]

  people talk about and it's but it's not [TS]

  like faded they eventually would fade [TS]

  into a legend but again that would be [TS]

  after 50 years or fifteen hundred years [TS]

  later that's one thing 15 years later [TS]

  like I'm pretty sure people even on the [TS]

  farm that the Galaxy would still believe [TS]

  that those are actual things that [TS]

  existed somewhere and John you mentioned [TS]

  on the talk show [TS]

  star wars episode about this at this [TS]

  point that when Han Solo is talking to [TS]

  obi-wan and Luke he's like talking about [TS]

  the Jedi like they're just a rumor of a [TS]

  crazy thing that happened a hundred [TS]

  years ago he's been all over the galaxy [TS]

  seen a lot of strange things he's never [TS]

  seen anything that convince them to jedi [TS]

  the force even exist as a thing like I [TS]

  mean he was alive when the Jedi were [TS]

  around here you know they had a whole [TS]

  big temple on the the the main planet of [TS]

  the Empire right big building has never [TS]

  seen anything you donate conference room [TS]

  he said he said I deniers a force desire [TS]

  huh is a really effective disinformation [TS]

  campaign [TS]

  oh and we don't want to start with me we [TS]

  can't root for the guy we feel you know [TS]

  what he's gonna do terrible things I [TS]

  think you can you just have to [TS]

  understand why he's doing the terrible [TS]

  things like that whole thing it's if [TS]

  your main character is going to do [TS]

  terrible things is going to end up [TS]

  becoming evil you want to feel like boy [TS]

  that's terrible but I kind of see wire [TS]

  where he was coming from my name is [TS]

  bringing up the Godfather me that's all [TS]

  sorts of horrible things like that of [TS]

  this is the dumbest person in the [TS]

  universe right because you have to be [TS]

  like you he makes bad choices but you [TS]

  could totally understand where he's at [TS]

  emotionally and why what it like it's a [TS]

  difficult choice like it and then in [TS]

  this movie you watchin is like no sane [TS]

  person would make that choice and so you [TS]

  can't empathize with them at all and so [TS]

  now it's not that you're singing do bad [TS]

  things you've seen him do bad things [TS]

  inexplicably you're like lizards just [TS]

  nuts [TS]

  the shortcut it to write because the [TS]

  murder of small children is like I was [TS]

  nothing more evil in the murder of small [TS]

  children that will convert everybody's [TS]

  evil there's no real reason to do that [TS]

  they couldn't kick puppies i kept copies [TS]

  and kids would come on the screen here [TS]

  to stop them but this puts a hybrid evil [TS]

  now i'm turning Darth Vader for some [TS]

  reason yeah let me let me kill some kids [TS]

  that makes sense [TS]

  Young's or worse of all of all the [TS]

  people in that temple you want to go [TS]

  against people who are your age where [TS]

  justice skilled and trained if there's [TS]

  some sort of apprentice Jedi's for about [TS]

  half your height one-third your weight [TS]

  and barely are trusted with a sword [TS]

  that's if I gotta kill Jedi's that's [TS]

  what I'm going first [TS]

  ok Europe understand Jedi so those [TS]

  babies are traders that traders the [TS]

  Republic Andy yeah those kids know about [TS]

  politics we you know what the little [TS]

  dudes running around chopping at your [TS]

  knees while you're fighting the [TS]

  pls those kids were definitely old [TS]

  enough to vote by the way less they put [TS]

  the park they park their bikes in your [TS]

  parking spot no matter how many times [TS]

  you tell them not to [TS]

  did you see that teenage Jedi fighting [TS]

  off all those clone troopers it needed [TS]

  to die he gave me lip to add a real [TS]

  attitude i believe that was George [TS]

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  crawl all over an hour and we've got [TS]

  into the crawl ok we could cover we've [TS]

  got covered a lot here i just i'm gonna [TS]

  i'm gonna mention some things that [TS]

  happened and then we can go from there [TS]

  the again Palpatine's kidnapped [TS]

  off-screen we do see early x-wings & Tie [TS]

  Fighters and I wanted to use that as a [TS]

  jumping off point to briefly discuss the [TS]

  fact that there is an attempt made by [TS]

  somebody in the art department [TS]

  to tie this movie in yeah with a new [TS]

  hope this this is very clear that they [TS]

  are trying very hard so we get early [TS]

  ships that look very much like x-wing [TS]

  shifts that look like Thai fighters but [TS]

  aren't quite there yet we see there are [TS]

  cinnamon rolls on the side of padma his [TS]

  head that are very ladylike and then [TS]

  later in the movie we see Jimmy Smith's [TS]

  traveling on a ship with white interior [TS]

  that looks very much like the ship at [TS]

  the beginning of a new hope so [TS]

  there are instead i think it is is it [TS]

  officially the same ship had to be [TS]

  formulated yeah because it's captain [TS]

  Antilles alright because they give the [TS]

  gifts c-3po to him and have him have [TS]

  have my just remember that there's a [TS]

  bunch of those things i noticed subtler [TS]

  indeed the displays in the jedis [TS]

  fighters look exactly like the display [TS]

  in Darth Vader's TIE fighter in episode [TS]

  4 the little circular like targeting [TS]

  thing is not yeah same display as well [TS]

  so they tried but it's kinda ham-fisted [TS]

  in some places [TS]

  well i don't know i like it in the same [TS]

  way that i really like the music in [TS]

  these movies i think the the designs for [TS]

  the things are actually really good i [TS]

  like the designs of the protostar [TS]

  stories like the pro-x wings that the [TS]

  Jedi fighters are little bit dorky it [TS]

  kind of see what there is but like at I [TS]

  think the sort of Mecca designs to use [TS]

  the animator man in the entire prequels [TS]

  for the most part are pretty good i mean [TS]

  i don't really like the droids from the [TS]

  prequels I don't really like most of the [TS]

  robots but the ships are all pretty good [TS]

  ships are pretty good work to make an [TS]

  uncool starship it was really [TS]

  interesting to see how they will do what [TS]

  computer displays knowing that they have [TS]

  to make it look that that like this was [TS]

  20 years before the technology that we [TS]

  saw 1977 if i was able to exactly like [TS]

  we have we have to do captain we have to [TS]

  do Nixie tubes somehow in here and make [TS]

  it look like it's a real thing i love [TS]

  the evolution somewhere out there is [TS]

  like no no these these multi-purpose LCD [TS]

  displays these are the most useful way [TS]

  display information Lincoln lights [TS]

  arranged in a console CRT's should [TS]

  really evolved from LCD that much harder [TS]

  when you think about my drift there's a [TS]

  terrible war i'm sure LCD panels are in [TS]

  short supply [TS]

  they just have to use old technology [TS]

  maybe later fruit stuff for you you just [TS]

  buy one of these old panels hooked up to [TS]

  two Raspberry Pi the first time through [TS]

  and maybe the second movie too [TS]

  it was all about look what we can do [TS]

  state-of-the-art [TS]

  this movie it definitely feels like the [TS]

  in the art direction like John said in [TS]

  the art direction this movie is about [TS]

  hinting at the original trilogy and [TS]

  hinting especially episode for that day [TS]

  there is an effort made by yeah i think [TS]

  it's cool i think it's cool that [TS]

  suddenly you're like hey wait a second [TS]

  he's flying a ship that looks kind of [TS]

  like Darth Vader's TIE fighter and those [TS]

  look like x-wings and-and-and there [TS]

  there's the superstructure of the death [TS]

  star but I actually really liked the the [TS]

  the freighter which is which I guess you [TS]

  are the the the the ship that antilles [TS]

  is on and and yeah Jimmy spits is on and [TS]

  i like that because it's like hey we're [TS]

  back where we started right I i like [TS]

  seeing that it's the same problem as [TS]

  Darth Vader where it's all shoved into [TS]

  the last movie though like we didn't [TS]

  build towards their like we got there [TS]

  are moving more like oh crap well forgot [TS]

  to mention these connect that's the [TS]

  that's the whole movie is this which is [TS]

  like oh jeez we squandered 10 movies and [TS]

  now we gotta put it all in here all [TS]

  right this is the last season of lost [TS]

  squished into 12 an hour and 20 minutes [TS]

  i thought i was going to say like just [TS]

  gonna say was like George George Lucas's [TS]

  term paper is due the next games play [TS]

  crap I gotta finish this all three hours [TS]

  he didn't say craft and he said no [TS]

  jugular was that you will see the do we [TS]

  see the proto Empire Imperial uniforms [TS]

  anywhere else but the last scene because [TS]

  that definitely fill out of nowhere and [TS]

  almost on the Taylor said quick because [TS]

  it becomes outfits whipped up we need [TS]

  them for the final scene i know i'm like [TS]

  you guys have epaulets and everything [TS]

  else I'm like that whole planet of the [TS]

  healers putting together outfits through [TS]

  the time he does cuz Palpatine has the [TS]

  Imperial Guards the red guys are like [TS]

  ready to go you know if we wanted to ask [TS]

  Dexter jettster about a planet full of [TS]

  taylor's new learners they probably [TS]

  wouldn't that's right as anyone I think [TS]

  I can you don't admire Palpatine's [TS]

  plotting not only does he raise that [TS]

  clone army but he does have new uniforms [TS]

  ready to go so small himself that man is [TS]

  what is it is like opening a restaurant [TS]

  you do a soft launch just to get the [TS]

  bugs out and then you open the doors for [TS]

  these for the reefer the galaxy alright [TS]

  we're wearing these great things now yes [TS]

  yes all right he's got the appetizers [TS]

  got the people to where the boss [TS]

  Marnie alright you gonna tell us what [TS]

  these Chiclets on our chests actually [TS]

  mean or no it's it's tough here that's [TS]

  all uniforms [TS]

  it's a style thing that that was I i [TS]

  remember i distinctly remember in the [TS]

  theater watching episode 3 and let the [TS]

  point where I kind of gave up on the [TS]

  movie was oh so not only are we seeing [TS]

  wookies we are absolutely seeing [TS]

  Chewbacca is just and it's not like this [TS]

  not as though that he just like [TS]

  accidentally showed up in episode 4 with [TS]

  no connection at the ok that is I don't [TS]

  think to the audience [TS]

  I have a note to that and the effect it [TS]

  to that effect which reads Chewbacca [TS]

  medio de this sounds like somebody's [TS]

  fanfiction yeah did you did you know [TS]

  that apparently in an earlier draft of [TS]

  the movie they were supposed to be a [TS]

  ten-year-old Han Solo as well on issues [TS]

  on consumers sorry cousin because you [TS]

  have a lot of sense it's it's like it's [TS]

  really so at some point like they wanted [TS]

  to come up with a master list of [TS]

  everything we liked about the Holy [TS]

  trilogy and decided to throw sand on [TS]

  every gear in those mechanisms it's [TS]

  important [TS]

  well into the wookies they avoided [TS]

  ruining the wookies until this film and [TS]

  management's thanks guys [TS]

  the Braves a brave warrior race there [TS]

  was another among the last fall away i [TS]

  agree that i like the ship design in [TS]

  this movie [TS]

  what I dislike is the way that we are [TS]

  introduced to the ship designs which is [TS]

  that at the beginning of every single [TS]

  scene there's a cgi establishing shot of [TS]

  some sort of landscape and we get to see [TS]

  this ship swoop in from the side and we [TS]

  have a close-up at 44 sometimes as much [TS]

  as 35 minutes i actually I'm not 35 35 [TS]

  seconds [TS]

  don't you got like that like 35 minutes [TS]

  that I actually went through all the 50 [TS]

  chapter stops on my DVD and of those [TS]

  5022 of them start off with one of these [TS]

  sweeping cgi shots [TS]

  well it just goes to the same point [TS]

  about laziness this entire movie is lazy [TS]

  from step one the shots are very static [TS]

  they're the same all the dialogue is [TS]

  very much the same like it's just they [TS]

  just they just kind of pounded it out [TS]

  Michael weekend but the shots they do [TS]

  nothing but show off the visual effects [TS]

  and get me started about the fight [TS]

  choreography fight choreography is [TS]

  terrible yet to your point about visual [TS]

  effects and is that watching i watch [TS]

  this movie to X and O man when you watch [TS]

  something into x2 [TS]

  see frames-per-second you know what else [TS]

  is 60 frames per second video cutscenes [TS]

  specifically in video anything in this [TS]

  office so the vast majority of this [TS]

  movie already you know that the cjis is [TS]

  if he will you play it back at 60 frames [TS]

  per second you can really tell what's [TS]

  what's terrible cgi and what little bits [TS]

  are real people and that kind of blends [TS]

  together is the worst part of that is [TS]

  the the clone troopers like there's no [TS]

  reason yeah for all those clone troopers [TS]

  to BCG you can put a guy in a plastic [TS]

  suit we have met technology actually [TS]

  looks pretty darn good especially when [TS]

  like you don't even see that it's just a [TS]

  torso in the background and it's the [TS]

  Lucas digital you know a sort of [TS]

  changing history after the fact diseases [TS]

  like I like to see him but it'd be [TS]

  better if we had a clone trooper in the [TS]

  background sure we could just put a male [TS]

  he could have had a guy standing over [TS]

  the sink now what well Adam and post [TS]

  with the end like it is just it they [TS]

  look so bad what's damning John is that [TS]

  even worse you can go back to the real [TS]

  original trilogy and find places where [TS]

  all those stormtroopers exist in matte [TS]

  paintings and they still look better [TS]

  management because they're just too darn [TS]

  close like there-there close-up [TS]

  background filler but your eye is drawn [TS]

  to them because you you get shiny not [TS]

  right and it's like it's just it's not a [TS]

  giant ship it's not a huge fist of a [TS]

  city you can't build it's a guy wearing [TS]

  plastic just go to a con and pull out [TS]

  one of the cosplayers are bare [TS]

  ya know they're all so yeah so the early [TS]

  x-wings are there that the piloted by [TS]

  clone clone troopers so we get our Lara [TS]

  are Jango Fett actor gets to continue or [TS]

  his face digital compositing only [TS]

  african place in this movie yet police [TS]

  screens within green screens Anakin and [TS]

  obi-wan scrape off some droid bugs I [TS]

  thought that was a interesting i've seen [TS]

  right there's a scene where three of [TS]

  them are worrying about how to get the [TS]

  things off like our to both of them are [TS]

  like looking over at ob one ship and I'm [TS]

  like well why are they not watching [TS]

  where they're going there in the middle [TS]

  of a dogfight there in this big battle [TS]

  but apparently there's no danger don't [TS]

  you know flying is for droids flying is [TS]

  for droids they don't need to actually [TS]

  pay attention to where they're going no [TS]

  they're too busy scripting off the bugs [TS]

  you want to talk about as tragedy are [TS]

  you know the one reason why we really [TS]

  don't care about these these characters [TS]

  at all is our five who is you know [TS]

  supposedly OB ones closest [TS]

  right companion we've seen him with our [TS]

  54 most movies are five gets killed the [TS]

  first meets a tragic [TS]

  yeah his trash can come and even won't [TS]

  be one just says oh well I hope he has a [TS]

  mac know what care for you if you love [TS]

  your astromech droid back him up daily [TS]

  yeah he hates that robot let's just be [TS]

  honest here I hope you have a backup [TS]

  want to talk to him for all of episode 2 [TS]

  he has now is no dispute exposition to [TS]

  which just means he'll have to talk less [TS]

  so you so like there's a point at which [TS]

  you just intentionally drop your iphone [TS]

  4s in the toilet because you really want [TS]

  the iphone 6 so the other thing I kind [TS]

  of informatics seen that again is [TS]

  totally inferred and not spelled out is [TS]

  are we supposed to get the idea that [TS]

  Anakin has basically been promoted to [TS]

  early because the Jedi are being pressed [TS]

  into service and he's like you know we [TS]

  sort of later on with his whole argument [TS]

  about not becoming a master get this [TS]

  idea that like yeah he's really good and [TS]

  everything but it also is it supposed to [TS]

  feel like oh man they promoted him too [TS]

  fast because he we really need more Jedi [TS]

  because we're fighting this big war was [TS]

  not chosen one thing like he's supposed [TS]

  to this first movie had some BS about [TS]

  chosen on you i guess we have to like [TS]

  promote a minor is the main character we [TS]

  have to promote him know it's the [TS]

  Chancellor the Chancellor is somehow [TS]

  screwing with our minds and forcing us [TS]

  to do this and we feel kind of kind of [TS]

  bad i guess i guess we have to do this [TS]

  so they landed me in the little landing [TS]

  Bay thing which has got the magnetic [TS]

  shields on my way gonna start going out [TS]

  yeah I'm saying about the space battle [TS]

  we have that in the interest of [TS]

  continuity we do have a scene where [TS]

  Anakin avoid some missiles by spinning [TS]

  it turns out that actually was a good [TS]

  track payoff a payoff and and is somehow [TS]

  the Trade Federation hasn't really [TS]

  upgraded its droids in all the years [TS]

  that it's been doing stuff either didn't [TS]

  really learn from its yeah but that's [TS]

  not the problem with this [TS]

  they're still dominant after they land [TS]

  and horses the the lesson we should have [TS]

  learned from especially episode 1 is it [TS]

  a week enemies are boring it's a replay [TS]

  of episode guide say they go in there [TS]

  and start slicing and dicing those [TS]

  droids like okay yeah we get it there [TS]

  weekend amis they're not a threat to you [TS]

  my notes just same more droid saber [TS]

  father that's it's just like oh these [TS]

  guys they're stupid and a waste of [TS]

  everyone's time [TS]

  that's the latest reason I the same [TS]

  thing battle droids are still use [TS]

  listen includes our Father like it's the [TS]

  same it's just let's put these two giant [TS]

  armies here with no steaks because out [TS]

  those guys are robots and those guys are [TS]

  clones who really cares about anything [TS]

  that you would even think their arms [TS]

  would be getting tired of it by this [TS]

  point that hire help to go could you [TS]

  just mow down these droids because like [TS]

  really they're not a threat but it's [TS]

  just my arm is getting so tired from [TS]

  these drugs and have just really a lot [TS]

  of work i love that line from obi-wan [TS]

  about the clones they're doing their job [TS]

  so we can do ours and their job is to [TS]

  explode basic job is to die without [TS]

  honor we see them a Klingon voice it [TS]

  sounds like you need to say that the [TS]

  Klingon voice there is no honor and [TS]

  dying is a close they are going to die [TS]

  with no honor the owners they're cloners [TS]

  all these cloners we gotta put another [TS]

  order in for more korean food loners [TS]

  best corners and so we got some elevator [TS]

  shenanigans there's lots of really [TS]

  exciting stuff involving elevators and [TS]

  that's what I look for in a Star Wars [TS]

  movie is some elevator and many [TS]

  elevators they blow the top off it goes [TS]

  down it comes back up i find it [TS]

  interesting that the one new trade [TS]

  federation do they introduced is no [TS]

  longer in Asian stereotype but a surfer [TS]

  dude I guess there's nothing they can do [TS]

  about nute Gunray at this moment they [TS]

  sure i'm gonna throw any more new [TS]

  insulting Asian characters into no I [TS]

  library i wrote down how come r2 d2 [TS]

  needs a comlink he's a joy i wrote that [TS]

  to why does are you having my radio in [TS]

  parentheses for stupid comedy moments [TS]

  later [TS]

  yeah all those rockets and oil injectors [TS]

  that he uses but why why he's a robot [TS]

  why does he have a human walkie-talkie [TS]

  we didn't complain about this in episode [TS]

  4 really need to close down the garbage [TS]

  mashers yes because they give him [TS]

  see-three-pee-oh as a hand 3pl Threepio [TS]

  doesn't have a comlink although he [TS]

  really should be showed against Michelle [TS]

  because of organs he doesn't because [TS]

  need very little difference is they're [TS]

  using the Death Star's communication [TS]

  system so that they might not be wired [TS]

  up to that this is like they're trying [TS]

  to be in touch with each other and they [TS]

  give our two of walkie-talkie it just [TS]

  seems weird to me no cellphones a long [TS]

  time ago in a galaxy far far [TS]

  ok it's pretty cool at all of those [TS]

  decks of heavy metal don't actually [TS]

  interrupt the signal of the walking out [TS]

  dessert initially wanted Jackie spaces [TS]

  your phone too because like part of the [TS]

  joke is like he's supposed to be holding [TS]

  the thing and he's got it on speaker or [TS]

  something [TS]

  then the voice comes in other choices [TS]

  here him right just real offense to in [TS]

  this film is they make are too and they [TS]

  make our to the joke like what exactly [TS]

  yes I know although i will say the scene [TS]

  where he does the guys in oil and then [TS]

  set them on fire was actually kind of [TS]

  bomb [TS]

  I oh yeah i agree although the slap [TS]

  stickiness of it did not need to be [TS]

  there no but I felt like God you setting [TS]

  guys on fire [TS]

  that's amazing magic happen all the time [TS]

  flexible metals and but yeah you know [TS]

  everybody figured okay we've established [TS]

  that he can reject liquids and he has a [TS]

  rocket [TS]

  so let's do this it's clever its clever [TS]

  but he had to jason's point this entire [TS]

  sequence does feel like a replay of the [TS]

  episode 1 bit down to the look battle [TS]

  droids oh look destroyers look we're [TS]

  running around at SuperSpeed like you [TS]

  know basically or many times from c-3po [TS]

  but now I just a different Jedi and [TS]

  we're still sort of negotiators I i [TS]

  think they mean this to be like hey [TS]

  aren't you getting that episode 1 [TS]

  feeling it's like we've come all the way [TS]

  back around and so don't wanna get it [TS]

  could well I going now known as it won [TS]

  again we get to see mr. mr. Dooku again [TS]

  briefly before he's beheaded i want to [TS]

  point out that in the background this is [TS]

  one of those like we we have so much [TS]

  power on our computing platforms now [TS]

  that we can do anything they literally [TS]

  while the entire showdown is happening [TS]

  with with Dooku and General Grievous and [TS]

  the Jedi there is the most insane space [TS]

  battle happening behind them that we [TS]

  don't care about but it's really [TS]

  literally like hey guys what if we took [TS]

  the insane space battle from Return of [TS]

  the Jedi and just have the background [TS]

  where nobody cared about [TS]

  can I can I file something under plot [TS]

  points that make absolutely no sense and [TS]

  therefore no reason files getting [TS]

  awfully full it's a big it's a big way [TS]

  to find the scene it does not exist for [TS]

  any reason tel L Anakin's jumped outside [TS]

  the elevator right and he jumps back [TS]

  down and you know everyone goes to hit [TS]

  him with the lightsaber and that goes oh [TS]

  it's you [TS]

  yeah and it's like a who else is gonna [TS]

  be your freaking Jedi you should know [TS]

  when your pal shows up on your power is [TS]

  totally useless and there's no reason [TS]

  for to be there there's it serves 0 [TS]

  purpose it's not be like it's sort of [TS]

  camaraderie like oh these times [TS]

  have together and her wacky and then [TS]

  we're going to transition right into [TS]

  while you're unconscious I'm gonna kill [TS]

  this guy [TS]

  yeah also I'm not to mention obi-wan [TS]

  unconscious but i'm pretty sure that [TS]

  debt crushes his legs and then totally [TS]

  fine i do ya later [TS]

  no baby just gently pins him down a [TS]

  column of Rock crushes legs in the [TS]

  previous film I mean they came pretty [TS]

  bad luck with lakes is robo let's say [TS]

  one thing one thing I like in this first [TS]

  segment is Dooku's crazy what what the [TS]

  what are you doing [TS]

  krazee-eyez 22 Palpatine well [TS]

  Christopher Lee gives another really [TS]

  game performance here however brief [TS]

  which just serves to highlight the fact [TS]

  that we only see him for like 30 seconds [TS]

  in either film and he's the one guy that [TS]

  manages to survive through two films as [TS]

  a villain my note for that it's [TS]

  Christopher Lee may be the only actor [TS]

  who showed up for this scene [TS]

  yeah yes hello again i will say that if [TS]

  you if you add a cgi hand of Palpatine [TS]

  waving his hand in front of an occasion [TS]

  where he's like remember what your what [TS]

  you told me about your mother in the [TS]

  sand people you know this is is not the [TS]

  Jedi way [TS]

  that's okay Anakin all of a sudden he's [TS]

  crazy like pseudo super-creepy speech [TS]

  makes a lot more sense [TS]

  well he doesn't even do that speech in [TS]

  this point this point he's like easy [TS]

  he's got to go on the ropes got the [TS]

  lightsabers bias neck and Anakin goes I [TS]

  shouldn't and the convincing argument [TS]

  that brings them over to did the fact [TS]

  that he should kill this guy is [TS]

  populations do it like this it like a [TS]

  while but I've been convinced by the [TS]

  power of your no he doesn't just say do [TS]

  it he says do it [TS]

  yes videos voice he's putting he's [TS]

  putting his Jedi his evil Darth surface [TS]

  evils of powers to the test no he just [TS]

  wanted him to have a mountain dew [TS]

  yeah that's what they do and i can do [TS]

  what i do is my question really is Dooku [TS]

  was so surprised like doing out and [TS]

  brought you around that's all took what [TS]

  if i said i don't do it now you're not [TS]

  getting that's the rest of the movie do [TS]

  it don't do it don't do it [TS]

  going to have to say you're making this [TS]

  a whole lot less fun for me it's just [TS]

  too easy [TS]

  also does anyone else think like when [TS]

  they walk in and you see Palpatine like [TS]

  sitting in that chair it's like this is [TS]

  kind of attended to folk episode on your [TS]

  person understands look like as well [TS]

  gotten and yet nobody can caught on to [TS]

  the fact that he's the bad guy he's [TS]

  sitting in the bad guy chair [TS]

  yeah I don't understand how every single [TS]

  one of these Sith dudes can sense the [TS]

  great fear and anger and Anakin yet all [TS]

  of his Jedi that's completely oblivious [TS]

  to all guy seems cool [TS]

  yeah that's just something that you get [TS]

  on the dark side is the ability to sense [TS]

  fear and anger [TS]

  yeah I [TS]

  yeah I [TS]

  and yoda can do it in theory search your [TS]

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  the ship has hit at one point and [TS]

  actually like Falls where I had that [TS]

  moment of of the gravity questions which [TS]

  like this [TS]

  in space how is it to think about grab [TS]

  how is it falling and when they tilt the [TS]

  ship everybody tells off the gravity is [TS]

  often [TS]

  yeah but the falling it's like it's [TS]

  falling out of the sky which doesn't [TS]

  make any sense because it's a spaceship [TS]

  and i know i know but i still I i was so [TS]

  far out of it at this point that I was [TS]

  just like what what is even what is even [TS]

  happening here [TS]

  I i have note that the saber duel that [TS]

  we get around here felt especially fake [TS]

  to me like it was a series of one [TS]

  individuals in front of a green screen [TS]

  differently is not up more that's [TS]

  alright Angie a non-zero terrible stunt [TS]

  double for Christopher Lee a problem [TS]

  with this the fighting here as is the [TS]

  problem with most of the other fight [TS]

  scenes in this movie is that they're all [TS]

  shot in kind of medium shots a lot of [TS]

  times and a lot of time there [TS]

  back-and-forth shots so that's really [TS]

  all there is no it's not scale but 19 [TS]

  scale like there's definitely no scale [TS]

  but like there's no tracking there's no [TS]

  it's not like oh yeah there it's totally [TS]

  disjointed and so the having a stunt [TS]

  double I'm sure was problematic for [TS]

  shooting this in terms of having a [TS]

  composite Christopher Lee face and [TS]

  working me into like oh yes now let's [TS]

  have a close-up to show that he really [TS]

  is here fighting him in my other mother [TS]

  weird thing is Anakin's like my powers [TS]

  have doubled since the last time we've [TS]

  been like that even mean like by what [TS]

  scale like everybody ok wednesday he [TS]

  went to destiny status comments look at [TS]

  all [TS]

  they have deployed the wilhelm scream by [TS]

  this will help scream have 1545 what are [TS]

  tired and they also have the the Jedi [TS]

  get caught in the ratio thing which [TS]

  seems a little opp to me because like [TS]

  they're this is giant giant world that [TS]

  they have with all sorts of things and [TS]

  then all of a sudden something cg effect [TS]

  comes out of nowhere and they're like [TS]

  well this Trump's my lightsaber my force [TS]

  power is like why don't they make [TS]

  everything out of ratio then you could [TS]

  win this war [TS]

  also let's count how many times they say [TS]

  ray shield in a 37 my god yeah that was [TS]

  my plan to protect the ratio owners [TS]

  shields [TS]

  don't worry I didn't know that they had [TS]

  rain shields [TS]

  why is it that like after how many [TS]

  people have to lose a hand in a [TS]

  lightsaber battle before he said well [TS]

  what if I just work got 'let's I want to [TS]

  force we got let's what are you gonna [TS]

  make the godless out-of-home more [TS]

  lightsabers ratio is not something i [TS]

  like that obi-wan says when they get [TS]

  trapped [TS]

  how did this happen were smarter than [TS]

  this he responds like the script isn't [TS]

  you know show no evidence of that and [TS]

  that's why I got John took the words [TS]

  right out of my notes [TS]

  he's not starting over like there's a [TS]

  good at the very end of this work [TS]

  General Grievous has a right nice piece [TS]

  of on-the-nose dialogue where he says [TS]

  time to abandon the ship and then [TS]

  abandoned the ship [TS]

  thank you tell us what you want [TS]

  everybody in this movie I think you're [TS]

  gonna scream you're saying look at his [TS]

  writing style it's like if only movies [TS]

  were actually made this way like where [TS]

  you just write down what you want to [TS]

  happen we'll get to that later in the [TS]

  love scenes but like if that we provide [TS]

  us the way riding work for you just [TS]

  write and now there is a scene where [TS]

  there is an escape i'm doing a person [TS]

  says I'm going to escape and then the [TS]

  people say he has escaped it's the old [TS]

  rhetorical trick of like telling what [TS]

  you're gonna tell him tell him what you [TS]

  told this work in Charlie Chaplin films [TS]

  i do want to say that the running down [TS]

  the elevator shaft thing is is a little [TS]

  difficult for physics reasons but this [TS]

  is one of those shining moments where [TS]

  you watchin you go you know that's [TS]

  actually pretty neat that's a fun [TS]

  sequence there so so very rare in this [TS]

  film but what doesn't work is the the [TS]

  meeting with general grievous where [TS]

  animals is generally shorter than expect [TS]

  you're shorter than I expected [TS]

  is that supposed to be an insult and if [TS]

  so why he thinks it is because he says [TS]

  Jedi scum or maybe he just like saying [TS]

  Jedi scum O'Byrne he's hunched over [TS]

  maybe it's all that because all hunched [TS]

  over from one place window crushing him [TS]

  and the animated club are serious i also [TS]

  like that he happens to have two [TS]

  available lightsaber pockets just like [TS]

  we're just ready they're just just to [TS]

  the perfect number you will be not a [TS]

  tailor planet they can just add more [TS]

  pockets at any time so he's got four [TS]

  lightsaber in arms [TS]

  yeah sure that's your palate Palpatine's [TS]

  Taylor is tailored the planet boilers [TS]

  boilers haberdasher on this thing that [TS]

  the thing that really upsets me in this [TS]

  is that all the sudden we've gone from [TS]

  daring rescue of Chancellor Palpatine 20 [TS]

  be one being like have a job to do [TS]

  Anakin try not to upset him it's you [TS]

  know we're gonna go back to disk [TS]

  diplomacy [TS]

  hey you know he grieves said the [TS]

  negotiators are here so i guess it's [TS]

  time to play negotiators that at least [TS]

  until we execute our daring escape [TS]

  yes please don't upset him with this [TS]

  meaningless insult that makes absolutely [TS]

  no sense at least he has those cool cool [TS]

  more droids that have the little purple [TS]

  stick things those guys are awesome [TS]

  you know they're tough because they take [TS]

  15 seconds to destroy instead of the [TS]

  usual three right no yeah the second [TS]

  that their own dedicated sound effect at [TS]

  least they have little buzzy things at [TS]

  the end which are shown to be somewhat [TS]

  of a match for lightsaber like you can [TS]

  clash with the lightsaber with him as [TS]

  opposed to just being sliced in half [TS]

  like butter like every other things like [TS]

  there was contact with absolutely what [TS]

  is the head off of them and they still [TS]

  work the UH the the ship crashes and we [TS]

  get quick whip watch we get another [TS]

  happy landing go James Bond lines to [TS]

  points1 that to go with the wise the [TS]

  ship sinking what is blowing grievances [TS]

  cloak when he's outside shifts i didn't [TS]

  figure that one base [TS]

  yeah i think the gas coming out of the [TS]

  ship the solar we all style it's a force [TS]

  that binds the entire source so if [TS]

  you're a droid ish kind of guy i [TS]

  actually thought that was kind of clever [TS]

  it's like well i can i can just go out [TS]

  in space so I'm just gonna break the [TS]

  windshield here you guys will suffocate [TS]

  and i'll just be climbing around our [TS]

  psychological though so if you're gonna [TS]

  have anybody do that maybe not a great [TS]

  item especially not a guy with emphysema [TS]

  he's got breathing problems already i [TS]

  know i know but wait a minute we see [TS]

  later that he has no lungs so I still [TS]

  have a problem with the head and I balls [TS]

  with a frozen wizard if you have know if [TS]

  we're gonna go to that route [TS]

  why is the ship even designed for people [TS]

  to walk around in if you just have [TS]

  robots if you can make robots Fighting's [TS]

  youtube and watch channel to check the [TS]

  ship [TS]

  yeah it's extra and its surplus they and [TS]

  and to the point Jason about the another [TS]

  happy landing [TS]

  I think a Jedi have only two modes [TS]

  literal and deadpan or attempted man [TS]

  that's the only line deliveries that [TS]

  either of them having this entire movie [TS]

  i would like to know when our to learn [TS]

  to say he who he does it twice he [TS]

  doesn't during the fight with the droids [TS]

  it sounds sort of michael jackson i [TS]

  think it's an okcupid he's been trying [TS]

  to enlarge little Annie going on yeah it [TS]

  be all so how did the fire ships know [TS]

  that they're good guys crashing the bad [TS]

  guys ship and why did you find other [TS]

  fire shit the fire ships are confusing [TS]

  is someone's idea i mean happy lands [TS]

  have the ship like it's I don't know [TS]

  and again it anything like that like a [TS]

  daring and narrow escape or anything all [TS]

  of that relies on you caring about the [TS]

  characters and being invested in what's [TS]

  happening to them and it doesn't matter [TS]

  how well you execute something like the [TS]

  elevator scene or some [TS]

  like the crash scene if you're if you're [TS]

  not on board with the movie you're just [TS]

  like yeah yeah but if you are on board [TS]

  the same scene can be super exciting [TS]

  because you really care about the people [TS]

  right but the laziness keeps coming [TS]

  through here the thing that got me was [TS]

  so we have this big fight [TS]

  it's apparently over chorus and the next [TS]

  day after his crash the ship it's like [TS]

  everything's been mopped up we're all [TS]

  good there's no fight happening yet [TS]

  another happy day of course it [TS]

  what the hell presumably the Chancellor [TS]

  has been kidnapped from corisande [TS]

  there's gotta be some maybe my room no [TS]

  no stakes everything is predestined well [TS]

  but it's all applauded by the Emperor [TS]

  and he knows this is where he's going to [TS]

  live so he doesn't want them to make a [TS]

  mess though he does it all just [TS]

  somewhere else [TS]

  uh we get padma a here populations has [TS]

  done is all this action secret stuff is [TS]

  brace yourselves ya think that the good [TS]

  times yes [TS]

  not a damn thing happens for over 30 [TS]

  minutes bad times they are coming you [TS]

  you'll be begging for ships shooting [TS]

  each other you don't care yeah here [TS]

  comes Padma she's got the she's got the [TS]

  princess leia buns [TS]

  she says she says transition and any I'm [TS]

  pregnant by the way my note here is [TS]

  every time she calls him Annie I think [TS]

  about that episode one kid and get to [TS]

  super creeped out help it [TS]

  and as for pregnancy apparently the Jedi [TS]

  Academy believe in abstinence only [TS]

  education because great Jedi can't thank [TS]

  you figure out how to do not they also [TS]

  give to alter sounds on on in the end [TS]

  their reproductive technology saw in the [TS]

  lead planet of the star republic / and [TS]

  pocketing tell that its twin television [TS]

  and she was kid they just like the [TS]

  mystery of it they you know keep it a [TS]

  mystery and she goes from all I've got [TS]

  some wonderful news to looking terrified [TS]

  and being like what are we going to do [TS]

  so maybe you know either have her be [TS]

  happy about it or have her be worried [TS]

  about it but the constant fluctuations I [TS]

  don't know if they're gonna blame that [TS]

  on hormones or whatever but it's weird [TS]

  also does anyone route room does anyone [TS]

  actually remember the fact that they're [TS]

  supposed to be secret spouses because it [TS]

  doesn't seem like she kind of like that [TS]

  behind or too high too high that's the [TS]

  thing i didn't notice it until this is [TS]

  this viewing the movie which maybe is my [TS]

  second or third i don't i think i've [TS]

  seen it before but like it by the end of [TS]

  the movies like wait a second are we [TS]

  supposed to believe like I've everyone [TS]

  is the end we talk about what we want [TS]

  goes Anakin's it's Anakin's baby [TS]

  did you think was the father like this [TS]

  he was showing everyone knows she's [TS]

  pregnant we just wanna say anything [TS]

  about maybe she's just putting on weight [TS]

  you didn't like what is this i don't [TS]

  even understand like the premise of the [TS]

  movie we supposed to believe that people [TS]

  don't notice she's pregnant or they do [TS]

  notice but they don't think we'll be [TS]

  rude to ask who the father is so we'll [TS]

  be the ones like at the end and it was [TS]

  charging me like you know she was [TS]

  pregnant [TS]

  who did you think was the father you [TS]

  just that's why Jar Jar stop talking [TS]

  yes and that's a fundamental problem of [TS]

  this movie is it's an entirely unclear [TS]

  from one scene to the next who else in [TS]

  the cast is supposed to have what [TS]

  information like who's supposed to know [TS]

  that Palpatine is bad or not bad who's [TS]

  supposed to know that Anakin and padmé [TS]

  here together or not together that that [TS]

  it's his childlike none of that is given [TS]

  any context is she hiding her pregnancy [TS]

  is gonna do people see that she's [TS]

  showing she's staying in her room [TS]

  combing her hair the whole time to hide [TS]

  it like I don't think she is in her room [TS]

  a lot actually i would not have [TS]

  remembered that their wedding with their [TS]

  like marriage was supposed to be a [TS]

  secret had it not been for watching the [TS]

  clone wars series again where it is once [TS]

  again handled way better than it's [TS]

  handled here I had that moment of like [TS]

  oh right [TS]

  secret wedding um I want to make a note [TS]

  here and say I understand like jarred [TS]

  loose a charger doesn't say anything [TS]

  he's on this movie they realize okay [TS]

  he's a liability we're not going to use [TS]

  charger here natalie portman oh she [TS]

  wasted and she is completely I mean it's [TS]

  not like such performances with three [TS]

  shadow of her former so the other [TS]

  Murphy's character like where is that [TS]

  pad me where is the one who had a gun [TS]

  who is like you know leading the charge [TS]

  daring and instead she combs her hair [TS]

  like she doesn't stay in a room is kinda [TS]

  nice just character assassination of the [TS]

  height is not only is a waste of Natalie [TS]

  Portman but Padme as a character is [TS]

  completely destroyed by this movie she [TS]

  is no she is a 0 in this movie is [TS]

  ridiculous and she was pretty damn close [TS]

  to zero in the previous movie right but [TS]

  it's worse at least she could shoot but [TS]

  she was a woman of action she did think [TS]

  she was she she was living with her and [TS]

  the gun leading the charge and going [TS]

  into like she wanted to get things done [TS]

  she wanted to make change politically [TS]

  she had ambitions she was an important [TS]

  person chef Angie she just stays in the [TS]

  room and her biggest concern is about [TS]

  like house Anakin feeling that's it yep [TS]

  she's she never leaves the room with the [TS]

  exception of getting on the ship to go [TS]

  find Anakin [TS]

  for this entire movie and again this is [TS]

  a place where that actually could have [TS]

  been explained in the movie as as soon [TS]

  as I figured out found out I'm pregnant [TS]

  I'm hiding and you know i'm i'm staying [TS]

  here I've been you know having Jar Jar [TS]

  take your business or my aides take care [TS]

  of business [TS]

  I don't want anybody to find out let's [TS]

  go back to Naboo except we can't leave [TS]

  because there's still blood like they're [TS]

  there could have been so so much solved [TS]

  very quickly without her seeming [TS]

  basically completely helpless [TS]

  yeah and she would have to be confirmed [TS]

  conflicted about that or maybe [TS]

  institution just be there combing your [TS]

  hair and wondering about hob make up the [TS]

  baby's room she would need to be a [TS]

  character you know just very blase about [TS]

  the fact that the Queen will likely kick [TS]

  her out of the Senate if she has a baby [TS]

  so I just get really like glass ceiling [TS]

  that seemed to unenlightened for a cup [TS]

  for a cup for a planet that will elect a [TS]

  fourteen-year-old boy girl as your queen [TS]

  and then like I have a pregnancy that's [TS]

  the that's the good you get knocked up [TS]

  and that's it you're out now up sorry [TS]

  well they have they have they have [TS]

  issues with young women clearly on Naboo [TS]

  clearly also i'm not sure that George [TS]

  Lucas really knows how pregnancy works [TS]

  but this is this is the first time we [TS]

  hear that she's pregnant and the rest of [TS]

  this movie that just really want it [TS]

  takes place over multiple months but I [TS]

  think she's ready to deliver [TS]

  I mean the film itself seems like it [TS]

  takes multiple months but yeah but the [TS]

  action on screen does not and and also [TS]

  in that scene where like so if they're [TS]

  pregnant we go back is coming your hair [TS]

  on the balcony and Anakin is looking at [TS]

  her I like to watch you creepily brush [TS]

  your hair [TS]

  I'm amazed by his ability to look creepy [TS]

  while look at that wife I get the idea [TS]

  of the any mention this the idiot [TS]

  this is the indexer classic story of the [TS]

  she's not pregnant she's having a [TS]

  pregnant except that for plot reasons [TS]

  she's on Khorasan when the right thing [TS]

  to do sort of the classic style would be [TS]

  that she has to go visit her sister in [TS]

  the country on Naboo for about nine [TS]

  months right and then she comes back and [TS]

  she's ok I'm back I feel better now [TS]

  Jason there's war the war ! that you [TS]

  know what if course not was being [TS]

  invaded as we are led to believe in the [TS]

  beginning wouldn't they have evacuated [TS]

  the Senators given that you know the [TS]

  Senators and the Chancellor kind of hold [TS]

  the power and if the Chancellor has been [TS]

  kidnapped then the senator should [TS]

  probably be at [TS]

  deep inside she spends a lot of time on [TS]

  balconies in a giant place that's a huge [TS]

  yes definitely with larger really gonna [TS]

  hide your pregnancy spend a lot of time [TS]

  out of paparazzi we're definitely no [TS]

  droid paparazzi and on top of that let's [TS]

  spend it in night where the entire time [TS]

  is there is there really a scene where [TS]

  she's not in lingerie uncomfortable [TS]

  night we're like she's bringing things [TS]

  with beads and those beads are just [TS]

  going to you pearls there you try to lay [TS]

  down on those you're gonna have big [TS]

  circular marks on your arm when you wake [TS]

  up at some point I was like wait hold on [TS]

  is that address or a nightgown I can't [TS]

  actually tell cuz I thought it was just [TS]

  a dress and she goes to bed nude so [TS]

  maybe she's known i can I don't know so [TS]

  i wrote down the classic dialogue that [TS]

  i'm going to recite hear you I'll help [TS]

  I'll help [TS]

  you're so beautiful it's only because [TS]

  i'm so in love but it's only because i'm [TS]

  so in love with you know you and they [TS]

  might have my notes just say ugh i have [TS]

  Jesus this dialogue written down at this [TS]

  point so love has blinded you [TS]

  yeah well that's not exactly what I [TS]

  meant but it's probably true and seen [TS]

  that's really I think we're getting some [TS]

  insights into why like Lucasfilm was ok [TS]

  with so many people writing like fan [TS]

  fiction and fan fiction movies that's [TS]

  where they got all this dialogue heard [TS]

  someone by him up the Saurus a fan [TS]

  fiction has a way better dialogue in [TS]

  this like what was being established in [TS]

  the scene that they love each other by [TS]

  having the character say i'm so in love [TS]

  with you know i'm so in love with you [TS]

  and i will i will say that it does nail [TS]

  the fanfiction aspect of people bragging [TS]

  about romance and love who have never [TS]

  had a romance or been in love [TS]

  oh my god Anika wakes up at from a bad [TS]

  dream with his metal arm which is just a [TS]

  reminder that he lost his arm and the in [TS]

  the in the intervening time between now [TS]

  and when Luke gets his arm cut off in 20 [TS]

  years the technology improves quite a [TS]

  bit because little ones to a real the [TS]

  one place but they realized we can make [TS]

  this look and uh and he has a [TS]

  premonition that bad things are going to [TS]

  happen with Padme that is a word a [TS]

  premonition i wrote down that he dreams [TS]

  of Star Trek one because it kind of [TS]

  reminded me of yes there's a wormhole [TS]

  it's very it's a very cheap effect for a [TS]

  movie that is otherwise full of very [TS]

  expensive effects and yet it still [TS]

  manages to look really terrible and it's [TS]

  cheap and it's vague like weed [TS]

  on is point i guess it's supposed to try [TS]

  to communicate some kind of emotion [TS]

  rather than a series of events but it's [TS]

  so pivotal to his supposed to turn to [TS]

  the darkside he understand exactly [TS]

  what's going on here and that that he's [TS]

  totally convinced this is going to [TS]

  happen all we see is that she said like [TS]

  it was something else to get to compare [TS]

  to like Empire where Luke has [TS]

  premonitions that we don't see about his [TS]

  friends being in pain and the others [TS]

  like they might die they might not you [TS]

  know he's given a choice like it is is [TS]

  not so concrete that like my entire life [TS]

  is going to hinge on this thing that I [TS]

  absolutely positively sure it's gonna [TS]

  happen exactly this way unless I do [TS]

  something there should be ambiguity that [TS]

  should be like well you know if you [TS]

  leave now help him you could but you [TS]

  know like it's stephen now maybe that [TS]

  you know always in motion but Bob this [TS]

  is just like no totally solid she's [TS]

  gonna die unless I kill children also so [TS]

  many so many of us like think that [TS]

  empires the greatest movie like in the [TS]

  entire series with with good reason but [TS]

  that but that was something always [TS]

  annoyed me that you know it makes a big [TS]

  deal no no look you can't leave now [TS]

  because disaster will happen and your [TS]

  friends are gonna have to die and all [TS]

  this sort of stuff [TS]

  nothing really happens as a consulting [TS]

  bad happens as a consequence of him [TS]

  leaving we learn here that yoga doesn't [TS]

  know what the hell he's talking about he [TS]

  barely survived and Yoda said didn't SI [TS]

  he was saying this is a safe bet the [TS]

  safe bet is to stay here you need to [TS]

  complete your training for the good of [TS]

  the universe it's better for you to stay [TS]

  here let your friends die but Lucas [TS]

  showing his character by saying yes for [TS]

  the good of the universe maybe it's [TS]

  better for me to stay here and [TS]

  potentially let my friends died because [TS]

  it's better for me to get completely [TS]

  trained to save everybody but look shows [TS]

  us not the kind of person i am going to [TS]

  try to help my friends even if it means [TS]

  me almost dying a side note is is that [TS]

  is that instantly as your point about [TS]

  not seeing the divisions mark hamill [TS]

  manages to actually sell that so you [TS]

  know anyone who wants to talk about Mark [TS]

  Hamill not being greatest actor he's not [TS]

  a greatest acted like he manages to make [TS]

  you believe that there is something bad [TS]

  going to happen without us ever seeing [TS]

  it was Hayden Christensen can even make [TS]

  us believe what we've Johnny cine yeah i [TS]

  was sleeping shirtless did you notice [TS]

  let's say you to my metal arm do you [TS]

  like my metal arm pressure have some [TS]

  more fun my golden army visits Yoda for [TS]

  some therapy but Yoda is not a very good [TS]

  therapist [TS]

  no says don't sweat it death happens be [TS]

  happy your wife I don't know about is [TS]

  going [TS]

  you guys that this whole this whole [TS]

  section is deadly scenes of people [TS]

  talking on Khorasan like we're back to [TS]

  like it's flashbacks of like no not the [TS]

  couches not the rooms not the talking [TS]

  not that not the shot of this person [TS]

  shot at this person is just your doom [TS]

  two catches for ever happens for 30 [TS]

  minutes John 30 minutes [TS]

  I i can I can summarize this actually my [TS]

  notes to a pretty great job of [TS]

  summarizing the plot here here let me [TS]

  let me throw some on here [TS]

  political science time we're giving more [TS]

  powers to the Chancellor and it can [TS]

  either be on the council [TS]

  I need you more than you will know haha [TS]

  oh did I say that out loud [TS]

  how can you be on the council and not a [TS]

  master well you know it's you [TS]

  at least they let him get rid of the [TS]

  stupid rat tail and I return I miss I [TS]

  miss puppet Yoda dimension because I I [TS]

  didn't mind some of the CGI Yoda but [TS]

  here I really felt like boy I miss [TS]

  puppet unit that was a different guy [TS]

  than this guy [TS]

  it's not the making but even if you made [TS]

  public you want to say the same lines [TS]

  it's just like these are these are not [TS]

  great and i use of the whole the whole [TS]

  attachment philosophy like I it's hard [TS]

  to watch this and not try to like you [TS]

  know i'm going to psychoanalyze the [TS]

  people who made this movie but like I [TS]

  don't think you can do that I think it's [TS]

  fair correct but i find myself going [TS]

  towards like is this like the Pope the [TS]

  post-divorce Lucas type of you know that [TS]

  all the attachments in your life end up [TS]

  hurting you and it's but like I don't [TS]

  think it is because like that's not the [TS]

  message of the movie that's but it just [TS]

  like that the philosophy espoused by [TS]

  yoga and the prequels does not connect [TS]

  with me in any way we have a philosophy [TS]

  espoused by Yoda and the real story we [TS]

  also get what is an attempt at like I've [TS]

  said before some some complex thoughts [TS]

  about political science and the nature [TS]

  of and the nature of dictatorship and [TS]

  democracy [TS]

  this represents a failure to listen but [TS]

  what you get is that you know the [TS]

  council wants you to spy on the [TS]

  Chancellor it's literally like does he [TS]

  like me does he like like your knife [TS]

  practice yeah don't tell him and and I [TS]

  my note is this is politics as viewed by [TS]

  a child this is a childlike view of [TS]

  politics even if George Lucas wanted to [TS]

  make a movie about political boring [TS]

  political science that's obvious and [TS]

  stupid and nobody wants to see it [TS]

  his grasp I have to i'm just going to [TS]

  say it and I i know this is incredibly [TS]

  mean but his grasp of political science [TS]

  is so simplistic that it makes me wonder [TS]

  is this guy stupid because this is just [TS]

  it is a joke [TS]

  it is an absolute shitshow makes it [TS]

  makes aaron sorkin look like a genius [TS]

  because he does those ridiculous like [TS]

  his things are completely unrealistic [TS]

  like the west wing is like so silly and [TS]

  yet it is closed and it is like a [TS]

  supercharged fantasy version of reality [TS]

  but it but it's so much closer than this [TS]

  because like okay this is not the way it [TS]

  really is but wouldn't it be cool if and [TS]

  this is ok this is obviously really is [TS]

  and it wouldn't be cool if it was just [TS]

  like a cell stupid it's just one another [TS]

  it's just another example start a [TS]

  half-assed attempts to trying to turn [TS]

  something into a valid point and the [TS]

  other point the other place this sort of [TS]

  comes up is I think Anakin has this sort [TS]

  of weird inconsistency and Trust of [TS]

  padmé and we get this half-assed other [TS]

  half-assed attempt of trying to [TS]

  insinuate that maybe he thinks obi-wan [TS]

  and she have something on the side [TS]

  although they never gonna decide what [TS]

  they're doing with that it's never its [TS]

  but it's like it's kind of brought up [TS]

  towards the end it's never even hinted [TS]

  it's not believable at any point that [TS]

  anyone reasonable at all it's literally [TS]

  like a something out of a plot automatic [TS]

  like no jealousy [TS]

  yeah let's put in some jealousy like [TS]

  obi-wan and pawed me might be having an [TS]

  affair really good because he visited [TS]

  once [TS]

  oh yeah well app obi-wan was here wasn't [TS]

  his windsong stays on my mind haha yeah [TS]

  once upon a time an early script of [TS]

  episode three surface and i want to say [TS]

  right after episode 1 but before [TS]

  episodes two and three and that script [TS]

  was all about basically ob1 and Padme [TS]

  coming close to having an affair and [TS]

  Anna can basically go to reestablish [TS]

  whether that was real or just like a fan [TS]

  script I have no idea but either way is [TS]

  more believable [TS]

  yeah there was no chemistry between [TS]

  those actors and second movie so no but [TS]

  it's but it's one of those things that [TS]

  like if that was in kit like of some [TS]

  kind of fact it's almost been completely [TS]

  stripped out of this movie and there are [TS]

  hints where could it could have been in [TS]

  this movie but like you said it's it's [TS]

  it's theirs [TS]

  there are no connections here they're [TS]

  just like Oh what about this plot point [TS]

  what about this plot point maybe won't [TS]

  we'll just push this all together and [TS]

  hope that this is a movie works this is [TS]

  the guy I think in some ways this little [TS]

  second section of this movie is [TS]

  the nadir of the love of Star Wars [TS]

  because this is this is George Lucas's [TS]

  big political science payoff and we we [TS]

  know we're going to crank up the action [TS]

  and have to come to the Fallen Vatican [TS]

  so this is the chance so like and it is [TS]

  like half an hour long so we get the at [TS]

  this point it's only been 20 minutes we [TS]

  get the Anakin I think this war is [TS]

  destroying the principles of the [TS]

  Republic what if democracy no longer [TS]

  exists which is completely asinine but [TS]

  he is sort of supposed to be clueless [TS]

  and asinine here my wife turned to me at [TS]

  this point and said what does she see in [TS]

  him [TS]

  there are no answers there people [TS]

  there's no answer for that Palpatine [TS]

  talks to Anakin the Jedi Council want to [TS]

  take control the Republican that's a [TS]

  really reasonable premise I didn't [TS]

  appreciate the line that Palpatine has [TS]

  resist [TS]

  search your feelings you know and Vicki [TS]

  don't you close to be out the opera [TS]

  scene had some things to recommend it [TS]

  though you have the one thing I got a [TS]

  point out about an opera screensaver [TS]

  it's it's it's rags flying around in [TS]

  giant bubbles and I'm gonna be our it's [TS]

  it looks suspiciously like the Diahann [TS]

  Carroll segment from the holidays but [TS]

  the teacher is trying to teach Anakin [TS]

  how reproduction works it's interesting [TS]

  that you say that because at this point [TS]

  he brings out the story of Darth [TS]

  Plagueis quote in France the wise with a [TS]

  name like that you know he's a fine [TS]

  fellow and the point that he makes is he [TS]

  could use the Force to influence the [TS]

  midi-chlorians to create dot life and at [TS]

  this point he looks very pointedly at [TS]

  Anakin on the last word and I believe [TS]

  this is to suggest that she means virgin [TS]

  birth was planted by ass it all along in [TS]

  fact i read an article that said that in [TS]

  a previous version of the screenplay [TS]

  that was then never shot but but it was [TS]

  in one of the last wraps it was stated [TS]

  outright that that the Emperor [TS]

  essentially created Anakin so this is [TS]

  basically i am your father and yeah [TS]

  India's I you gotta love Darth Plagueis [TS]

  but though you know I actually there's [TS]

  one thing in this scene that I really ok [TS]

  so i kinda like the the implication that [TS]

  he created an American i think that's [TS]

  kind of fun i really like the [TS]

  implication where he tells this whole [TS]

  story about how amazing dark Darth [TS]

  Plagueis is he could keep people from [TS]

  dying which is yeah he's trying to play [TS]

  on Anakin's fear [TS]

  that Padma is gonna die but I like it [TS]

  here I like he's hot as apprentice [TS]

  everything he knew and then there's some [TS]

  printers killed him in his sleep [TS]

  haha oh did I mention did I not mention [TS]

  that was me that implication i don't [TS]

  think is the only one who is able to [TS]

  sell these lines like it's just not a [TS]

  well-written scene but it is movie at [TS]

  least in the kind of weird background he [TS]

  is the only actor who who like I feeling [TS]

  McDermott and mcdermott shows up even [TS]

  for everything yeah he is pretty good i [TS]

  have to say i wrote down at one point [TS]

  you know I really like him he he gives [TS]

  it his all in this he really is a good [TS]

  to see real villain he doesn't you know [TS]

  if you just give him better things to [TS]

  say but in this in the scene like the [TS]

  mood and the background and the fact [TS]

  that the two of them are alone there [TS]

  like he tells a stupid story the lines [TS]

  are silly the the one note about the [TS]

  readings here is they did this again and [TS]

  I just I it drives me insane like a [TS]

  Republican says they're playing to [TS]

  betray me and Lucas is a look and [TS]

  Anakin's line is I don't think and then [TS]

  he gets cut off and he does it in the [TS]

  worst possible like the worst possible [TS]

  like I don't think I'd like a net-like [TS]

  you can tell he wasn't going to continue [TS]

  design that was the end of the sentence [TS]

  actually yeah exactly that's what it [TS]

  seemed like [TS]

  and why how can you not do that he did [TS]

  in the first movie there instances that [TS]

  just that's like moviemaking 101like [TS]

  when a character has a line that trails [TS]

  off our they're interrupted you have to [TS]

  make it seem naturalistic you can't have [TS]

  them read the I don't think line and [TS]

  have them stop it just boggles my mind [TS]

  how even everything like there's are [TS]

  important that the best scene in the [TS]

  movie they can manage to blow it by just [TS]

  not something like on a technicality and [TS]

  something so easy to two things about [TS]

  the same 11 line i do like he is good as [TS]

  a point of view which is obviously [TS]

  intended to hearken to obi-wan's faster [TS]

  as you and actually has the benefit of [TS]

  being like in a better movie [TS]

  oh that's kind of what this is about [TS]

  again as John mentioned earlier from my [TS]

  point of view the Jedi are evil [TS]

  Anakin Anakin is good like anakin thinks [TS]

  he's doing something like could we see [TS]

  comments on Aris to say that this at the [TS]

  opera scene in particular any an [TS]

  imaginary a set of prequels that were [TS]

  good this opera scene might actually [TS]

  have it okay if you have you have to [TS]

  explain why Anakin is super interested [TS]

  in the ability to keep people from dying [TS]

  because I because that is that you know [TS]

  this is the glimmer apart this like the [TS]

  glimmer of hope in the depths of despair [TS]

  of of the worst part of this movie [TS]

  why is he not the least bit suspicious [TS]

  about Palpatine knowing any of this [TS]

  stuff is actually got on me is realizing [TS]

  oh yeah let me tell you all about this [TS]

  stuff and he's like that sounds really [TS]

  interesting tell me more [TS]

  again in a better movie we would [TS]

  actually feel the fact that Palpatine [TS]

  has essentially been a father to him to [TS]

  obi-wan's older brother and now he [TS]

  implicitly trust him which we don't get [TS]

  any of this an advocate would need to [TS]

  have a lust for power like he doesn't he [TS]

  never establish Anakin's lust for power [TS]

  like that comes out of nowhere like I [TS]

  want to be in charge and super powerful [TS]

  like the only way you're attracted to [TS]

  somebody who gives you the promise of [TS]

  ultimate power is if you're one of those [TS]

  people who just like is is you know [TS]

  craves power Anakin is mostly just been [TS]

  ineffectual one whiny and not really [TS]

  like going to rule everybody [TS]

  well as we learned earlier Anakin is so [TS]

  dumb that he's actually told the [TS]

  Chancellor of the the Senate or the [TS]

  Republic who it believes not to be evil [TS]

  at this point that he slaughtered a [TS]

  bunch of innocents and people on [TS]

  Tatooine because again if you go back to [TS]

  the idea that Palpatine is his father [TS]

  figure he trusts Palpatine he wants to [TS]

  work with Palpatine and crazy alternate [TS]

  universe better movie this is the you [TS]

  know Palpatine is is given him life [TS]

  lessons when he's worried and confused [TS]

  and doesn't know who to turn to and the [TS]

  Jedi are frustrating him i don't know i [TS]

  remember when i told my dad about all [TS]

  those dead hitchhikers and it didn't go [TS]

  at all like this this this could have [TS]

  been a better in a better movie this [TS]

  would've been such a pivotal scene you [TS]

  think about so many other movies that [TS]

  happen we're in that somewhere in act 3 [TS]

  there is a complete pause to the action [TS]

  maybe even other movies in which there [TS]

  is actually a scene like at the Opera at [TS]

  the theater where this the correct [TS]

  father-figure can talk to the growing in [TS]

  power but still quite impressionable [TS]

  young person to simply say here's my [TS]

  worldview and here is a there are so [TS]

  many opportunities available to you [TS]

  right now I don't want you to be set [TS]

  down the wrong path and i'm going to [TS]

  explain to you what I how I see the [TS]

  world and why i believe the things have [TS]

  to be the way that they have to be [TS]

  and given that this was a situation [TS]

  which [TS]

  the kid is now being told by being used [TS]

  by the senator to say i want you to be [TS]

  sort of my eyes and ears my spy as you [TS]

  will to the Jedi Council but the Jedi [TS]

  saying i want you to be my spy into what [TS]

  the senator is going to this could have [TS]

  been a better written movie with a [TS]

  better actor this could have been one of [TS]

  those things that you just ski on when [TS]

  you're watching a blu-ray you just [TS]

  replay that scene over and over again as [TS]

  it is it's completely squandered because [TS]

  what they want to do is simply say he [TS]

  doesn't want his wife to die and so he's [TS]

  willing to make a deal with the devil in [TS]

  order to make sure his wife doesn't buy [TS]

  which is boring as hell yeah in the [TS]

  magical alternate version of this movie [TS]

  you've got Anakin as a young kid who [TS]

  believes that you know truth and justice [TS]

  in the you know the american way for a [TS]

  better lack of term where you know he [TS]

  doesn't believe he hate slavery he wants [TS]

  everybody to be free he wants you know [TS]

  he has all these grand ideals about what [TS]

  politics should look like and then who [TS]

  are the first two people that he really [TS]

  meets or the first three people that [TS]

  really meets in bonds with he meets a [TS]

  jedi knight who are supposed to and you [TS]

  know I resemble all good and that's good [TS]

  and wonderful universe he meets a queen [TS]

  who is very interested in politics and [TS]

  about doing the right thing and he meets [TS]

  you know the senator later the [TS]

  chancellor who is again extensively [TS]

  believes in the right way to do justice [TS]

  so in theory you could have built a [TS]

  movie on basically these three different [TS]

  viewpoints and how he's basically been [TS]

  tugged and pulled and his view his view [TS]

  has been shaped on this is the right [TS]

  this is what democracy should look like [TS]

  this is this is why democracy is feeling [TS]

  us this is why you know everything's [TS]

  falling apart and you have Palpatine [TS]

  from that idea being like I'm I'm subtly [TS]

  slowly shaping your view of what a good [TS]

  society should be and and why the Jedi [TS]

  are manipulating and destroying my [TS]

  society like there's again there's so [TS]

  much potential here and all of it is [TS]

  completely wasted all the frustration [TS]

  unfortunately all of that would require [TS]

  subtext which this movie lacks yeah yeah [TS]

  well and this is I mean this is a one of [TS]

  the ways that i have a problem i have [TS]

  these two problems i have a problem with [TS]

  Anakin and the light as i mentioned a [TS]

  problem with sort of how he becomes [TS]

  Darth Vader and one of the problems is [TS]

  fundamentally [TS]

  I don't feel like anakin is is I would [TS]

  have liked to have seen that story [TS]

  surrounding exactly what you're talking [TS]

  about that Anakin Anakin is not making a [TS]

  decision to sell his soul to save his [TS]

  his wife like Andy said I I want in [TS]

  Anakin to believe that this is the best [TS]

  path you have genuinely doing what he [TS]

  thinks is right and that he has reasons [TS]

  to think that [TS]

  and although we look at it and go oh you [TS]

  know stupid kid you don't understand you [TS]

  don't you don't understand history [TS]

  you don't realize where this leads but [TS]

  we don't really get that wewe just again [TS]

  if there's the shortcut which is you [TS]

  know a Svengali takes him under his wing [TS]

  and hoodwinks him into doing things and [TS]

  and and that's like when he's tricked it [TS]

  doesn't have the impact of him making [TS]

  those decisions for himself and making [TS]

  those mistakes doesn't have any agencies [TS]

  as far as zombies like a feather in the [TS]

  wind in this movie I like all his [TS]

  decisions are made for him by outside [TS]

  forces and he just sits there and wines [TS]

  or is creepy [TS]

  yeah buddy easy he says he's a chump [TS]

  he's fooled and and again if you then [TS]

  think this is Darth Vader you think oh [TS]

  my god [TS]

  Darth Vader is not a chump who got who [TS]

  got tricked into becoming a Sith Lord [TS]

  and now just sort of has to live with it [TS]

  that's not the darth vader that i have [TS]

  in my mind he has a consistent worldview [TS]

  that says that look you you ruled by the [TS]

  fist and that you can't simply let [TS]

  things happen you have to make things [TS]

  happen and you basically have to do that [TS]

  through fear and intimidation that's a [TS]

  worldview that's not a well i guess i [TS]

  guess this i guess i guess i have this [TS]

  job now and I've but I don't wanna move [TS]

  out of this my factory town so I'm gonna [TS]

  have to be the guy who fires people [TS]

  no no that's not a worldview can you [TS]

  imagine a scene in the original trilogy [TS]

  where the real Darth Vader is told by [TS]

  the Emperor hey go kill some young and [TS]

  he says sure why not [TS]

  and immediately goes and doesn't sure my [TS]

  master [TS]

  alright we're about halfway through this [TS]

  one so come back for our next episode [TS]

  when we will finish at last [TS]

  our journey through the prequels thanks [TS]

  for listening to the uncomfortable we [TS]

  will see you next time [TS]