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00:00:31 ◼   ► februari 2015 welcome back everybody to [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► be uncomfortable i am your host Jason [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► Steele we're here I'm convening another [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► meeting of the old movie club or Movie [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► Club the big and mean it [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► our topic today will be two films from [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► alfred hitchcock this has been pitched [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► to me as the underappreciated Hitchcock [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► segment we're going to be talking about [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► 1943 shadow of a doubt and 1940s rope [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► and I i will introduce my panelists now [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► David lower hello [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► gucci me Monty ashley i only watch these [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► movies to demonstrate that I could [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► commit a perfect murder [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► it didn't work now I find a lot of holes [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► in all these laws will eventually since [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► she just confessed in a podcast like [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► tragic flaw indeed and Enoch oh hello hi [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► there I i I'm gonna be a bit late coming [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► in here because i'm selling a newspaper [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► to a suspiciously portly gentleman whose [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► back is turned to the camera open up [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► he's already left i'm ok now you look [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► familiar [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► I don't I couldn't go to play these it [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► was just through so quickly that I [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► couldn't place it could really see his [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► face and a moron hello [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► no one will convict me for killing all [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► of you that's probably accurate [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► well Steve let's also out there who [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► could forget Steve let's I can't imagine [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► a person could forget Steve lot when [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► you're using our theme song for the old [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► movie club its reward movie clubs young [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► not really a theme or a song not the [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► theme song for the old movie it is [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► anyway [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► and the instigator of this whole thing [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► is Philip Michaels can you explain your [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► thinking in this that the concept that [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► you you you chose for us with these two [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► films i would be happy to jason i think [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► when you mention alfred hitchcock of the [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► movies that most rapidly spring to mind [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► are your psychos and your North by [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► Northwest and maybe your rear windows or [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► if you're if you're really a film snoot [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► of vertigo or or even the birds but for [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► my money basically the movies at high [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► anxiety [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► yes what what well I'll of North by [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► Northwest I think that's a really good [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► movie i think some of Hitchcock's best [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► work is some of his earlier stuff and I [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► think it often gets overlooked for one [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► reason or another and I I i wanted to 2a [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► bring these movies one of which is my [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► favorite Hitchcock movie and the other [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► of which is I i think is really a neat [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► neat bit of film film trickery that I i [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► think we can talk about all right should [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► we start with then with shadow of a [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► doubt from 1943 and not a spoiler alert [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► this is my favorite Hitchcock uh-oh [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► you've ruined the rest of the podcast [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► yeah books and if you--if interviews [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► with alfred hitchcock ER to be believed [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► this was his favorite movie of all truth [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► singing that man is a liar [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► yeah haha sell shadow of a doubt as he [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► said it's a 1943 and it is filmed in a [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► place very very near to where Jason [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► Meyer podcasting tonight Santa Rosa [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► California but i get i get ahead of [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► myself the movie opens up in what is [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► some sort of urban hellscape I assume [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► it's Philadelphia it enslaves numerous [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► Heller hellscape is when I got it it has [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► that whole eastcoast life is [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► deteriorating vibe and it looks rather [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► newcastle s Caswell oh yeah exactly [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► uh-huh i had a direct a kazoo parade to [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► walk through in the Alliance a shout out [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► to earlier and yes that's right that's [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► some old movie club continuity their [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► catalog the right people get it [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► up and they want to appreciate it but [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► they'll get it I don't appreciate a nice [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► set it good [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► Joseph copy this line of a bad then ma [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► indeed all right [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► as it turns out some some dudes are [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► looking for him and and he looks to be a [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► cat and a spot of trouble so he loots [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► that the two guys that are looking for [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► him and sends a telegram to his family [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► in santa rosa california that he's gonna [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► come out for a visit [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► meanwhile at that same time in santa [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► rosa california uh the family who is a [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► represented by Teresa Wright who plays [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► also a young lady named Charlie I should [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► mention the joseph cotten is uncle [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► Charlie so they have that connection you [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► see and also they may be the only two [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► intelligent people in their entire fam [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► well we'll get to that I think later in [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► the whole town of Santa Rosa yes it's [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► it's not a very bright family haha so [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► Teresa Wright is a bit down in the dumps [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► she's feeling that there in Iraq and [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► then she gets on the idea to invite [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► uncle Charlie out for a visit [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► Oh uncle Charlie sent a telegram that [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► he's coming yeah they have a connection [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► you see and uncle Charlie arrives and [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► almost immediately the time I stop you [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► for a moment as I enjoy the line i enjoy [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► the exchange between the lady at the [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► telegraph company and any young Charlie [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► where she says have you ever thought [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► about telepathy and the old ladies like [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► to look at these my business I don't [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► believe it [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► yeah yeah I wanted to what struck me was [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► the fact we are your ass lady seemed [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► genuinely worried about her business [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► model for a second there like a white [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► wait wait you can communicate with [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► outliers was going to bubble was never [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► gonna burst [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► it's over but for telegrams anyhow so [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► uncle Charlie arrives in town and almost [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► immediately both the viewer and Teresa [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► Wright can spot there's something not [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► quite right but he's he's got some [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► secrets he does some very weird things [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► he's snatching newspapers out of peoples [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► and dismissed [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► he's giving out gifts with other [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► people's names engraved on that and he [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► talks about how elderly women should [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► probably be choked just on principle [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► well we're getting ahead for getting [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► ahead of ourselves and a lot of fun at [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► dinner parties [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► yes [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► so also I that moment of like hey it's [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► joseph cotten I remember him from such [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► movies as as the third man and citizen [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► came and I now suspect him of everything [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► right except in those movies like he's [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► yes he's a nice guy and and here he [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► shows up and he's East he immediately [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► gives off a creepy vibe and and the [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► first time I ever saw this movie instead [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► of talking to be ok because Joseph [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► gotten a nice guy [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► no he's not thank you know he's very bad [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► at being a nice guy in this that [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► newspaper here and again [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► yeah well trying to cover his tracks and [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► all it doesn't make everybody in the [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► house say hey look what uncle Charlie [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► did to that newspaper you stole a page [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► hey everybody he ripped up dad's [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► newspaper dad's gonna be upset even [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► before that like when he shows up at the [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► station and he let everybody else carry [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► his bags from even like the little kids [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► are like carrying his bags like I'm just [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► gonna stand back here i'm not you know [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► if you pretend to be sick to first right [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► ladies getting off the green he looks [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► all feeble and then he's like spring [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► along and sauntering and then he's like [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► yes children carry my heavy bags for [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► being the newspapers cost the equivalent [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► of about six hundred dollars in 1940's [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► that must be unbelievably anal about [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► that newspaper the kids are terrified [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► remember the back then if you missed out [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► on that paper that's only gonna be [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► another four hours wait until the next [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► 10 dare take the comics Clarence will [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► fly into a murderous rage and see how I [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► i assume that everyone's Oh uncle [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► Charlie he's always playing tricks and [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► stunts that's why why you have that so [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► two gentlemen show up and they're [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► they're pretending to do a survey of the [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► fat American family [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► it basically the FBI in those days has [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► has no no skillet subterfuge and more [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► recently with suppressed because it's [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► quite clear that they are there solely [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► to check up on Uncle Charlie they had as [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► much skill as they needed [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► yes good just for this is very much a [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► hey your shoelace is untied kind of [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► people you need to deal with their on [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► behalf of money girion prince who's got [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► a bank account for him where we're at [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► the point where uh-uh FBI man a square [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► jaw breaks the nineties [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► just so that's fo marks i honestly [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► thought for a moment he was a postmark [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► he's just had that sort of wave the air [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► yeah he knows a long torso breaks the [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► news to Charlie that I thought he was at [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► Martin after several good punches to the [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► face that her uncle might actually be a [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► murderer [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► yes and not just any murder but a serial [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► killer who goes around like women widows [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► and taking their money and then leaving [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► him for dead and it's either it's either [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► him or another guy in the east coast so [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► they're they're following him so that's [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► like week 11 of American Idol we know [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► it's gonna be one of these to stay tuned [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► after the break to find out feel good [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► about the crime-fighting of 1943 they're [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► like we got it narrowed down to two guys [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► who has been murdering everybody what is [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► the evidence is there someone is like [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► Schrodinger's cat evidence somewhere [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► that it's like it's definitely one of [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► these two guys the things that will one [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► later on is that they have the same [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► initials is the thing like when they [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► when they talk later on about like the [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► guy they captured his initials are also [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► like co-owned so Mike apparently he left [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► like a monogrammed handkerchief is [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► significant rock and there's nothing I i [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► believe this is what we call in the [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► business MacGuffin just keep moving [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► along but apparently the way it works is [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► that as soon as one suspect is dead all [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► of the others are exhausted yeah well my [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► top yeah well I realized realized this [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► was j edgar Hoover's FBI so first step [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► eliminate all the Protestants really [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► narrows the suspect pulled down if [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► they're positive they know which one of [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► these two guys I feel like they could [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► have turned up their investigation a [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► little more than without the older may [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► long fake survey said that doesn't that [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► does indicate their entire manpower on [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► this case was four guys can split them [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► into two guys that way two guys the [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► other way [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► probably not enlisting the help of an 18 [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► year old ladies you mean operative is it [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► is also about law enforcement strategic [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► resell em now young charlie is beginning [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► to have her suspicions about Uncle [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► Charlie who is getting creepier and [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► creepier with every sea and it is not a [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► lot for a room for him to go there is [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► not good pretty creepy and also those [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► two are flirting with each other yeah [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► what you see is what the weird and [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► uncomfortable sexual tension [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► well I think that's quite intentional on [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► num Hitchcock's part and speaking of [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► movies that Teresa Wright would go on to [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► make she later made a movie with joseph [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► cotten which he could place my fabulous [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► yeah um but yeah I know basically a [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► uncle Charlie starts off at the ceiling [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► of creepy and then like high recovery [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► that burrow through the ceiling [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► I don't have you would happen and [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► because Andy mentioned already that the [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► monologue that on the uncle Charlie [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► gives about widows is is is it is quite [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► delightful one of my favorite bits of [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► dialogue in any Hitchcock movie uh [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► because it and and what did the wives do [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► these useless women you see them in the [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► hotel's the best hotels every day by the [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► thousands drinking their money eating [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► their monthly notices money at the [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► bridge they not did night smelling of [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► money proud of their jewelry but if [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► nothing else horrible faded fat greedy [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► women are they are the human are they [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► fat we had an amazing animals and what [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► happens to animals when they get too fat [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► too old and and and and the context of [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► this is he supposed to give a speech to [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► the local women's clothing and Trump his [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► mother uncle Charlie sister sister but I [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► hope you don't give that speech to the [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► club was good yeah he's really great [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► speechifying I'm workshopping a few open [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► legs tonight for you used to see the [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► roses greatest orators of all time by [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► contrast my favorite dialogue in the [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► movie is say I've never had a wristwatch [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► the fellows at the bank will think I'm [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► quite a sport it's evidenced by the fact [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► that doesn't know how to put it on and [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► try z fumbles with ya that anyhow uh [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► everyone uh in santa rosa just embraces [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► uncle Charlie to their beliefs because [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► because he is the most wonderful thing [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► which I i think is again and a very [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► intentional thing that Hitchcock did [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► because that the terror in this movie is [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► what if you know something horrible [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► about someone that you previously loved [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► and admired and no one believes you [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► everybody like yeah yeah because you [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► never said anything to any [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► buddy so at as we've mentioned there are [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► two suspects and charlie is consumed [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► uncle Charlie he needs to leave town and [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► the and he's about to bolt and then all [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► of a sudden word comes over the radio [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► that suspect number two has a fled from [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► the FBI and run into a propeller blade [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► and was closing the case then offered [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► his cock master of plot not to [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► foreshadow but if you're if you're a [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► serial murderer i suggest watching out [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► for various forms of transportation that [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► just like your undoing it yeah and if [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► it's down to you and one other guy find [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► any other guy take care of the other guy [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► as we've mentioned Hume Cronyn is in [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► this movie as the as the next door [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► neighbor who has a fascination with true [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► crime and murders and he literally says [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► at that point when the news comes up [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► over the radio [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► well I guess that wraps up this case and [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► it's not like the rick moranis of this [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► i'm fascinated by the human Cronin's [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► character and also his relationship with [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► the dad where they have these [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► conversations of how they will kill how [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► I will kill you [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► I get away with it this way it makes [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► perfect sense though because he murders [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► the dad who then goes on to become [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► Clarence the angel so it all worked out [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► with the nineteen-forties it was the [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► love that could not speak its name [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► they're great though I think they're my [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► favorite part of the whole help although [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► how freaky was it to see I actually had [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► to like look up his age he was 32 years [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► old my God he's like a young Hume Cronyn [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► I didn't know they even made through [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► that I had never seen a non raise any [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► human Cronin i'm going to show you [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► exactly what he has kind of a like a [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► henry winkler meets val kilmer thing [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► going to be like just just a dash of [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► Crispin Glover throne energy i even more [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► than a dashi may have a whole cup of [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► Crispin Glover through it was a weird [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► weird character that's that's a pretty [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► strong just get Andy magnet right there [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► um Cronin is the uncomfortable neighbor [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► who really likes talking about killing [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► PTF now it shows up it always shows up [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► or like in the middle entertainer [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► because he's a lonely man yeah he'll [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► just walk into the house at dinnertime [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► it's my god he does all he has his [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► mother and his murders [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► that's a key plot point yea cantonese is [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► lowest le yeah the way i read that [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► character to as I kept sort of expecting [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► that he would be blamed for a for a [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► murder [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► down the down the line because you know [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► we always talk about murders me super [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► creepy and kind of a weirdo [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► he had an outbreak has happened to swing [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► by with a basket of poison mushrooms [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► just to explain how easy it would be to [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► slip these on the people's food also i [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► love the part where he poisons coffee [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► with soda that's yeah oh yeah that was [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► that was some great bending I don't get [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► the mushrooms are poison that he brings [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► over i think he just brings them as an [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► example of much yes you can discuss [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► poisoned by agents see these mushrooms [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► because if i had not brought the visual [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► aid you would had no idea what I was [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► talking about [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► he's a prop comic uncle Charlie just [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► bounds up the stairs joyful that he's [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► off the hook up and then he turns around [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► and looks at young Charlie and realize [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► oh god she knows i have to totally kill [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► her yeah and so the remainder of the [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► movie which at this point we've got like [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► 20 minutes half an hour left is just [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► basically him trying to kill his niece [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► over and over again and being really bad [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► at it a couple things one is i love the [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► scene where he's on the stairs their [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► first there are a lot of staircases in [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► this BS this movie is is this in case in [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► the house in the back staircase that [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► same i think it's all yes I and then [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► he's full staircase staircase staircase [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► yes i love the scene where Joseph Cotten [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► gets to the top of the stairs and he [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► just stops and you're still looking at [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► his back you know you and and and he's [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► just standing there and that's that [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► realization that she's down there in the [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► doorway looking at him and that this is [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► going to be a problem and that's just a [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► fantastic fantastic seen the other thing [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► i want to mention is that the you will [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► talk about movies we often talk about [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► pacing and I I don't want to say this in [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► a negative way I what I would let me [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► phrase it this way if there were a [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► modern retelling of this film we would [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► get to the he's going to try to kill her [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► repeatedly like 10 minutes in and then [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► it would go on for two hours and that's [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► not what happens in this movie there's [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► like an hour of setup before we even get [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► close to realizing where this movie is [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► going to end up whereas a modern movie [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► with just the whole movie would just be [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► like final destination except it's [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► Charlie trying to kill Charlie Charlie [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► versus Charlie ok [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► that could be what we call anyway so I [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► appreciated that it was sort of it [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► escalates to this moment and then we get [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► this sort of frenzied last half hour [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► where [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► there's the back-and-forth of him trying [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► to kill her and I think in a way that's [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► why this is Hitchcock's favorite movie [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► because it it is it is the slow build to [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► perfection [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► where where it builds and builds and [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► builds and the tension increases [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► throughout the movie until until the [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► last act which is basically yeah things [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► are happening and so there you go [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► I mean there's that whole wonderful [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► conversation about basically what is an [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► earworm that goes for about five minutes [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► early on because she can't get the song [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► out of your head and then I think songs [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► like that transfer from head-to-head and [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► if I hum it long enough you'll think [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► what it is and then he has to distract [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► them before anyone realizes it's the [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► merry widow you so who's who started off [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► humming The Merry Widow I i missed on [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► who it was that initiate that young [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► charter yeah because there was another [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► day telepathy thing [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► yeah even you think you're the clever [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► little girl who knows something [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► there's so much you don't know so much [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► what do you know really you're just an [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► ordinary girl limited an ordinary little [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► town you wake up every morning if your [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► life and you know perfectly well that [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► there's nothing in the world to trouble [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► you go through your ordinary little date [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► night you sleep you're troubled ordinary [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► little sleep filled with peaceful stupid [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► dreams and I brought you nightmares [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► Uncle Chuck broke the movie meter with [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► that dialogue he at me [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► that's a culturally to his beloved nice [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► moments was when he was seven and he [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► started talking that way that it was [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► really creepy he tries to knock her down [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► the stairs he tries to as asphyxiate ER [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► in a in a garage with the door slams [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► shut and she's stuck in there without [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► which almost works [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► yeah look are you know about human krone [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► and saves the day destination doesn't [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► rescuer just goes and tells everyone [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► else that this was there when she wasn't [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► did that seem like a red herring anybody [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► else I almost felt as though [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► oh they're going to indicate that he's [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► actually the detective because no he [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► didn't just happen to be walking by he [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► was actually casing and keeping an eye [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► on things and I was pretty surprised to [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► find that no he was just being human [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► Cronin I think they did that because it [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► creates the stagecraft where uncle [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► Charlie can put the keys back in the car [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► and and make it look like it wasn't a [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► total setup [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► yeah because otherwise you say well how [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► did this happen [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► well someone was trying to kill her [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► obviously was here it looks just like an [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► accident uncle Charlie is the first into [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► the into the garage which she is in that [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► scene although he's got to get back [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► first before anybody else doesn't kick [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► the thing out from under the door [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► you know right to carry it off as kind [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► of a problem with a plan and I i think [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► the only I don't think was that specific [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► i think it was just because everybody [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► else is inside the house when you're [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► writing the screenplay oh well how did [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► they find me easy he's also turned [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► cranked up the radio but coincidentally [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► two seconds into and news from knows [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► from from washington state as hard for [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► the cliq hey let's listen to some really [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► loud music now why is it a lot of [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► Charlie okies you like a nice you don't [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► get the base until you crank it out [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► which is actual line i think that it was [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► like okay who do we have that's not in [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► the house right now as a screenwriter [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► Unicron ok whatever mobile just say he [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► happened to be passing by there may have [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► been humans suggestion i noticed i'm not [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► in the scene guys [TS]

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00:22:42 ◼   ► the reason that Charlie why I mean I I [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► take the point that everybody likes him [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► he's giving a speech or he's about to go [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► when he tries a killer he's get going to [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► go give a speech that's going to go down [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► as one of the finest speeches in santa [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► rosa history a minister says so Jason [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► yeah this now you guys are right near [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► santa rosa houses that speech stack up i [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► sent over history [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► I'm gonna have to check i just i think [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► there's a plaque somewhere about Grayson [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► Rosa home of the legendary 1947 speech [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► by to the Unitarian you know by uncle [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► Charlie I think Charles Schulz gave a [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► speech a few years later that went over [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► well but other than that it was known to [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► Charlie they said no no your talk of [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► peanuts interesting mr. Schultz but [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► unless you mentioned phat weezy very [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► without yeah i took my point is that [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► young charlie is the thing that he's got [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► over her that prevents her from telling [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► anybody this you know it's not until the [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► very very end that he's even well-liked [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► in the town it's that it would break her [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► mother's heart which is why i wanted to [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► mention this because her mother is an [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► idiot you know what else might break [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► mom's heart when daughter dies mascot [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► char math breaks her heart into it to [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► his credit he does this really my [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► sinister speed say well you could talk [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► but you know you're ill ruin your mother [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► and hey what about your dad's job at the [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► bank you'll probably get fired from that [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► your whole family's gonna be ruined only [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► going to do is just not say anything and [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► your family will still be perfectly fine [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► you know periodically i'll try to kill [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► you but you [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► no you can ignore that it was just in [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► this motley crew of like mental [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► negatives you have to like maintain this [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► this girl is so into the one person the [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► cast who has a good head on her [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► shoulders [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► you wouldn't want your father to lose [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► that job just when everybody decided he [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► was quite a sport [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► yeah I start asking how how how can i [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► was talking a small wheel like him go [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► for the pocket wristwatch of all things [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► anyway I I her mother drives me nuts [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► because she is just it is not a really [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► great performance it is not our or [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► character it's a difficult character to [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► watch she's flighty and silly and [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► pointless and I mean it gets across the [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► fact that she'll be completely destroyed [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► because she loves her she loves her [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► brother so much that but yeah it's um I [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► don't like that character at all [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► yeah we don't hear about how she drove [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► into a streetcar three times and are you [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► but I think the lightness is quite [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► intentional so that so that it's driven [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► home that young Charlie's between a rock [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► and a hard place yes I just don't like I [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► I get why that character exist in that [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► way i just don't really like that I i [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► found that are really incredibly great [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► character [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► it did have the effect of making me [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► think the two charlies are like i said [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► at the top of the show the smartest [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► people the sharpest people in this [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► family by far i can see why they feel [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► they have a connection because you know [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► they're not sporting a new watch at the [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► bank or doing whatever the heck it is [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► that the mom is doing which is and the [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► mom has that one moment of clarity right [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► after the attempted murder in the garage [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► where she's trying to piece it together [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► in your oh you're so closer to 0 we [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► asked you to think you have to agree [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► with you on how she's extremely [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► irritating but I do know that the scene [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► where uh where the detectives are still [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► trying to pull off their whole service [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► commentary was regretting it because [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► there's a 45-minute discussion about the [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► proper time to break eggs and cake yeah [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► you don't want to miss it hilarious that [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► isn't like I can't cream the butter [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► after I've broken the hay know let's [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► let's linger on this though it is like a [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► Monty Python cielo daughter documentary [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► weekend for a documentary today [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► come on [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► yeah I don't know you can't photograph [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► that Chad so we got the new sub clip [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► cover over it but you're welcome to go [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► film me as I wick egg in the remake [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► cherry jones would play that part doing [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► anything right the x-jet so uncle [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► Charlie goes to give a speech [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► yeah greatest coach ever leaving young [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► Charlie behind since she nearly [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► asphyxiated so why not you can't go to [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► south and she nicely manipulates the [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► situation this is the moment where she [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► gets the upper hand on him she makes it [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► so he has to go give the speech and she [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► because he tried to kill her gets to [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► stay behind unguarded in the house and [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► go through his things and try to find [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► incriminating evidence it's a really [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► really nice moment where she yeah she [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► maneuvers him and he knows she's doing [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► it and there's nothing he can do about [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► it and the incriminating evidence as it [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► turns out is this ring that he gave her [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► earlier in the movie and that that he [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► then [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► well she gave it back to him because she [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► was disgusted give it back or did she [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► just leave it at the library and it went [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► in the library lost and found I feel [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► better okay left it at the bar your you [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► know and uh the ring has the engravings [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► of one of the different window victims [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► I guess I i was thinking charlie you [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► know Uncle Charlie's really great [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► shopping on a budget because it turns [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► out that you can you can give away [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► almost anything after you murdered [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► somebody [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► uh-huh one and that the the ring thing [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► one of the things i love about this i [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► mean because i love the exposition news [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► network on the radio the newspaper that [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► she finds at the library is so [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► beautifully written it's not at all like [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► a newspaper not be written but it tells [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► you everything you need to know [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► including the only victim whose initials [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► match the ring [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► none of the other victims we never learn [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► anything else about any of them and the [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► movie lingers on it for so long because [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► you're expected to read every order oreo [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► do that that's why you have to subscribe [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► to the plot advancement Tribune that's [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► right because it moves things right [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► along [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► yes we learn for all of her intellect [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► Nancy is apparently a very slow reader [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► can we also keep some praise upon that [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► wonderful actress who played the part of [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► the waitress who that who was it was it [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► was in her class in high school never [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► left out [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► oh I can that's a real die that's a real [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► emerald gee I can always tell that's not [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► looking at it I don't even have to put [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► it aside and have to ask you if it's [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► real she had dirt on someone at the [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► studio [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► yeah either that or you're was her [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► acting coach don't mind me [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► I enjoy whatever duh now she was that [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► was again I think that's a beautiful [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► small town touch ya somethin yes [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► rear-ended broken-down she's a sort of [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► character that Bruce Springsteen sings [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► about in songs i like the librarians I [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► can't let you in i got a ride ology only [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► five minutes and then you get the sense [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► that this is like one of the smartest [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► kids in town and she's always the [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► library is Michael okay Charlie for you [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► but if I let you in all those other [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► hordes of people trying to get into the [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► library after hours will have to be let [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► in [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► no I like 1i let one of you in I'm gonna [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► have to let our right fine you got five [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► minutes to get him I'm just kidding [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► nobody else comes to the ones nobody [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► else ever been to this library also have [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► to just Charlie I have a friend who's a [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► librarian and he easiest the librarian [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► is the secret hero of them [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► it's the little kid that's always [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► reading ivanhoe that's in the library [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► all the time yeah we have been talking [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► about and how she's the Greek chorus of [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► this movie even getting really good shot [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► struck what time the library closes what [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► did you do should know how much as you [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► should [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► that that would be Chekhov's library [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► hours if you mention the library hours [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► it has to come back [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► she's got the smart little sister who is [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► always commenting on the action that is [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► happening in the movie which is I'm [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► Ellie cousin Oliver I like to think of a [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► complete with less uncle Charlie [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► finishes his speech speech ever greatest [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► speech ever [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► there's a party downstairs and that and [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► we're all invited [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► yeah we are all invited the Episcopalian [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► his ministers there and is often nothing [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► for me and my wife thanks I that's very [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► forward of the minutes but the rest of [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► you should get loaded [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► yeah pretend like we're not here ok well [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► we won't see um because the clergy don't [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► drink [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► apparently anyhow two hours it's at this [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► point that young Charlie soccer is down [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► to chill [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► down the stairs prominently displaying [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► the ring that she is yes which is when [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► Uncle Charlie says well the house and I [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► hate to break it did you break it to you [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► like yeah just gotta pick up the town [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► widow and i'll be out here huh you don't [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► want to leave town without a window that [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► so yeah like that's gonna drag it was [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► careless like milano cookies you may as [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► well eat consume all the ones in that [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► little layer and they take it out get [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► what you see more widows goodness grand [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► I mean you can't just one exactly the [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► next day Charlie uncle Charlie is [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► boarding the train out of town stupidly [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► now he invites the kids to come on the [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► train to see them off stupidly Charlie [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► gets on the train with them [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► yeah that this is the one really dumb [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► things that the Charlie does movie not [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► well I i really think so this is the one [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► thing where he can't come on Charlie [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► you're you're in full possession of the [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► facts and you get on the train with your [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► your murderous uncle and so yeah but [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► she's protecting the kids the kids [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► yeah I guess so and he does the matador [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► thing where you like let the kids run [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► along and it's like stop and then i'm [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► not sure why she protects the kids [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► because they're both horrible and really [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► hard with anyone missed them know how [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► many dads gonna be more concerned with [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► his newspaper i'm not sure that the dad [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► and mom would even notice they were gone [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► for a couple of months while the mother [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► certainly would but there's some little [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► ones around here is my newspapers so [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► much straighter now that they're wait a [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► minute the kids are missing my brother [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► is gone we left again I cannot stand it [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► why don't care it's like I don't do the [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► hot children with my brother is gone but [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► human Cronin is there ya go whoo crowd [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► they're using you know if I i put some [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► baking powder in that cake instead of [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► soda will be like always it uncle [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► Charlie makes it so that the train is [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► pulling out and Charlie's still on the [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► train because it becomes quite prepared [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► he's gonna throw her off the during just [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► as soon as it gets up to speed but [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► there's a struggle on young Charlie [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► manages to grab onto a solid handle and [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► uncle Charlie staggers off in fosston [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► front of it [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► oncoming train badly timed oncoming [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► train [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► bad luck for uncle Charlie there and [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► he's dead [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► yep that the entire town turns out to [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► mourn him I young Charlie stands outside [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► with FBI agent dark square jaw and and [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► she says basically yeah he was terrible [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► and he's dead now and you're the only [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► one who knows how terribly was and and [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► that's the end of the no no and that and [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► then I can't believe we didn't mention [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► at one point before the attempt on her [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► life to love directional square just [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► announces that he's in love with her [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► yeah and it's known her for roughly two [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► I don't want to go back to Washington [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► you'll see me back but i'm not going to [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► be here on business being an FBI agent [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► is boring [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► I just assume that's par for the course [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► because this is in 1943 movie where [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► heaven forfend there's a weave is going [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► to marry you know exactly just comes out [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► of nowhere although i do like the fact [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► that he professed his love for her and [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► she and she's like well you know never [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► nice but I don't know and then but but [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► then this is what happens when she is [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► there alone and can call the cops he's [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► nowhere to be found [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► because he's I don't know he's not in [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► fresno at that hotel but he said he was [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► going to be at he's got a girl in every [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► town where he investigates murder yeah [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► but it again it's creepy because she's [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► theoretically and he again seems like [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► he's in his mid to late thirties so well [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► that's the standard it was before do it [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► existed you know near death at that [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► point from some reasonable that the [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► black death I think I'm bad humors [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► ticket oh we're touching on the thing [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► that I that I love the most about this [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► movie though as opposed to later [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► Hitchcock is that Charlie Teresa Wright [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► is really in charge of her own destiny [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► and in charge of her own salvation [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► whereas later Hitchcock movies that the [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► treatment of women is kind of a tough [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► ball because but your psychos in your [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► birds are basically Grace Kelly didn't [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► love me show you must suffer to be angry [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► whereas in this one square jaw can't [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► save her she has to save herself and she [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► she is the agent of her own [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► rescue she she she figures out how to [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► trap uncle Charlie and and and i really [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► like that I think it's unusual among [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► Hitchcock pictures particularly among [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► the better-known Hitchcock pictures it [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► Hitchcock brunettes fare better than [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► Hitchcock blondes well absolutely [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► yeah we reach the end of the of the [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► synopsis what am I i obviously [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► interrupted feel about 90 times I to get [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► their of so what I want to ask before we [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► you know move on to our next movie we [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► should talk what we think about this [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► movie as a whole we can we can point out [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► some of the amusing things about it but [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► what did what did you all think of the [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► movie all all told Steve what about you [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► I'm kind of two minds about it I you [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► know the direction was great i really [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► like the use of shadow in a lot of [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► places since this movie has shadow in [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► the title you have shadows in the film [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► naturally I thought it was nicely tense [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► and you know it ratcheted up pretty much [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► throughout which I enjoyed I felt like [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► the plot though could have been a lot [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► better and I'm i'm going to blame it on [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► Thornton Wilder because it was forced to [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► read our town twice and twice about it I [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► i feel like the film would have been a [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► lot more effective if there had been [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► some question as to Uncle Charlie's [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► guilt and we weren't intimately aware [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► early on that he was you know a murder [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► he could still be creepy but he doesn't [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► necessarily have to be so obviously it [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► would be guilty of crimes but not [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► horrible murders and material and your [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► you kind of hope that he is and then [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► later on it would be interesting if [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► there was some question as to whether he [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► was really responsible for the accidents [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► that keep me falling young Charlie but [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► again it's made abundantly clear that [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► he's the one who you know locks her into [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► the garage so I felt like it that could [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► have made things a lot more interesting [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► i can end that is a byproduct of 1943 [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► probably probably it's probably just a [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► they didn't want to make it to complex [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► since you know the audiences were less [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► jaded and it by other problem is is that [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► it defies belief for me that anyone in [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► town would not become suspicious of a [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► guy who routinely launches into [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► diatribes about horrible that feel [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► greedy women and [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► our table and almost you know starts [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► starts accusing the father of [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► embezzlement loudly at the bank [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► yeah as though it's in a joking manner [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► and does something similar to the bank [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► president so I couldn't help but notice [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► gosh she really enjoys miming strangling [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► thing is that they were not wrong hands [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► I think a lot of that is it is thrown in [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► basically too well uncle Charlie he [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► tells he has his jokes and and it's also [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► told from the perspective of young [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► Charlie where where she's seen these [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► things through the eyes of a god he's [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► really a box during these these are [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► jokes these are terrible things [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► why can't you people see i also find [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► Charlie to be kind of a drip right [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► nobody's no no no we're gonna find the [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► only dripping this movie is FBI agent x [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► squared and then she's a drip in the [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► opening so gay which are I think young [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► Charlie's first scene is so depressing [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► haha [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► there's nothing interesting in this town [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► with all in a roxy is like you know [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► granted stereo typical teenager [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► uh-huh well but 18 come on 18 time to [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► begin over that note nobody teenager or [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► not who is remotely intelligent isn't [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► going to rat out Charlie after the first [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► or second time he's tried to kill her [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► yes I just I find that hard to believe [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► as well yeah but nobody would believe [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► that's something right like oh yeah sure [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► he cracked the state you know cut the [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► stairs that why wouldn't a believer and [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► why wouldn't she at least making a [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► because everybody loves uncle Charlie [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► I'm I don't think that's true though yet [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► you gave the best speech ever in santa [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► rosa concerned that's the whole thing I [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► think defies belief me I enjoyed the [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► movie let me just say that I i think [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► overall it was the the direction and the [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► tension were enough to carry it for me [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► but you know i would like to see the [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► plot be a little deeper and and less [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► obviously false to my to my eyes anyway [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► well I think we've learned that uncle [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► Charlie is the only monster here and he [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► wanted to go next [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► I just right yeah I i agree with all [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► that i think i like the movie I is I [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► thought that was a classic example of a [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► movie where [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► you love all the pieces of this you just [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► wish the pieces fit together a little [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► bit more cleanly first edit in addition [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► to the examples that are even cited when [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► the you know [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► assistant inspector Fred Mertz like [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► takes Charlie sighs and now we're [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► closing in on them so you know if he's [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► gonna run away heels he's only gonna [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► have a few hours to do that so I want to [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► tell you about this because you know [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► I've just been hit in the head with a [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► coconut see and i forgot that I'm [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► actually trying to capture him [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► I'm about to I'm probably be hit by [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► another coconut to remember that I'm [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► supposed to be catching so you really [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► should go and warn him right away I'm [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► this is when I started thinking that oh [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► so is this a double-cross is there are [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► these not actual investigators there are [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► actually the killers or associates of [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► the killers and when you turns out that [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► wasn't that was just know kind of a [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► character doing dumb things that are [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► contrary to their own purpose [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► you're under oh ok i really wish that [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► someone had circled that that page of [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► the script and put a big red ? on it and [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► handed it back to hitch [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► all right Monty what do you think I [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► thought it was a gorgeously shot movie [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► like Steve said the shadows are great [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► there's one scene on the top of the [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► staircase where for no real reason [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► they're just this amazing cabinet of dr. [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► Caligari lighting going on the back wall [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► and i also like to I think Charlie's on [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► the phone and we're supposed to be given [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► the impression that the phone calls have [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► been going on for a while it's just fade [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► to black [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► they back up with Cameron farther back [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► and in a completely random spot an angle [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► and that happens a couple of time [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► whether that was really effective [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► I'm not sure whether this was a joke on [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► purpose but remember that newspaper [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► we're talking about when Charlie says [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► going to fold a house heat air makes to [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► tears in the paper starts to fold we cut [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► away to the kid and then three seconds [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► later there's this amazing paper mache [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► and again he's good over there [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► there are six papers delivered every [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► single day they had they so much time so [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► much of this material to figure out of [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► clever things with he's got the strong [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► strangling hands [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► they're good at origami the newspaper [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► industry was different than money [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► I guess simplest most of the sales were [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► for manufacturers of pirate hats paper [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► houses boats i mostly like the movie i [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► do have a lot of concerns about mostly [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► just that newspaper scene because he's [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► so bad at covering his tracks [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► I'm not a baby uncle Charlie well that [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► combined with his rants about how [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► windows are bad and should die i think [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► our to decide if you wanted to keep it [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► on the down low but nobody noticed that [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► with the newspaper even these idiots [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► were like what are you doing hiding [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► hey there's a page missing you missing a [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► page that newspaper [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► hey everybody its gonna flip out early [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► had this paper and there's a painting [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► this thing folded nice and dad won't [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► notice actually there's a really good [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► chance that dad was only 26 pages in [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► this newspaper [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► it's a very small this week McNamara's [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► missing well that's across is that that [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► he is an uncontrollable maniac right i [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► mean he can't he can't stop his urges [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► he's going to kill the widows and tear [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► newspapers that's what he's going to do [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► and you know other widows yeah I liked [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► it yeah yeah good David what about you [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► I mean I've like this 14 years I I can [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► you know i love look visually and love [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► you know again the shadows the [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► staircases i love the fact that usually [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► Hitchcock lets you see characters think [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► so you know you see just gotten thinking [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► on the staircase for a minute you see [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► the you know in the beginning when he [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► just walks right past the the guys [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► waiting on the street corner for him and [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► and you see them think for a minute ago [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► is that the guy we should follow let's [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► follow and you know so heat so he lets [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► you see the characters think for a [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► minute [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► they may not all be capable of thinking [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► but still you know and one things that I [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► i noticed this time through who the [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► parallels between the Charlie's in the [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► beginning the first time we see both of [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► them they're lying in bed and they're [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► just when someone else is talking to [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► them and drawing things out of them and [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► as the movie goes on you know you know [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► she makes the point of [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► oh I I was that's why I was named for [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► right and we have something in common [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► and I can sense things that you keep [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► secret and I know things about you know [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► we have this connection and and we know [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► through the movie they diverge but in [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► the beginning it's very clear that there [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► they have this bond so that i think is [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► also part of why she doesn't she takes [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► so long to come to recesses and more and [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► more about you [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► i like it like a lot of these folks I i [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► really enjoyed the execution of it it's [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► a great-looking film I think Joseph [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► Cotten entries right both to awesome in [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► this movie that is fantastic for [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► especially just got a new appears [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► between the like charming debonair [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► dashing fellow and really scarily [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► psychotic guy because there's some good [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► scenes you know especially like when she [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► digs out the piece of newspaper from his [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► jacket and we get the you know trademark [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► Hitchcock POV seymour really you know [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► where the camera and we're looking at [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► him and you see this entire face sort of [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► collapse and you get angry and starts [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► yelling you know and ask the audience [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► essentially at that point is where the [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► stand-in he does such a good job of [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► going back and forth just [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► instantaneously between being terrifying [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► and supercharged like maybe a little [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► sleet charming but like you know [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► friendly and jovial and so II and even [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► the other characters i think if you even [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► if they don't seem to quite fit and they [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► are a little ridiculous at times I still [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► enjoy most of them i really like a [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► hundred traverse as the father just [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► because he's got a very matter-of-fact [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► way of talking about think I just enjoy [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► i really enjoy his inhuman Cronin's [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► discussions of the murder it's just [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► they're just so delightfully charming [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► because it is this whole idea of this is [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► it's a boring little town nothing ever [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► happens here you know and and all the [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► people are nice and and picturesque in [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► the the family surveys come around [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► because they want the typical American [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► family and yet always talking about [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► murder and terrible things all the time [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► and I think it's just you know it's a [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► great commentary i love it [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► all right fill up i guess i need to fill [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► in the blanks here and say I liked it I [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► liked some of the comments here I I sort [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► of see this and think it could have been [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► even better if and maybe you know it was [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► just of the time and it was going to be [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► what it was going to be but I I feel [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► like your moments where it could have [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► even better at doing the things that did [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► well and yeah the mom really annoyed be [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► and i found the FB hi to be amusingly [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► incompetent especially when you throw in [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► the declaration of love that happens [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► later in the film i love you Charlie [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► that was just a few terrible bizarre i [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► was like falling in love with all of my [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► cut [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► but this is this film is about the leads [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► and they're great [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► so that's all I think Phil what you [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► bring it home well as I said I I laid my [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► cards on the table early i think this is [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► Hitchcock's best movie i love the the [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► small-town elements of it and as as I [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► think even this film's harshest critics [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► will point out i think Joseph Cotten and [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► and uh Teresa Wright do a do a fantastic [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► job playing off each other in it it [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► really is a fantastic movie i think in [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► many respects and I I i do love how the [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► tension builds throughout I got a couple [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► of favorite lines i gotta throw out [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► there before we move on I like the line [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► where and is hopping on the sidewalk and [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► she says proudly to the detective I [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► brought my mother's back three times in [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► his response is not bad [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► step on a crack break your mother's back [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► yep i just really like it's just your [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► father's way of relaxing for the [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► discussion about murder [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► yeah the other line i wanted to mention [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► was at the end where they're discussing [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► what transpired the detective and young [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► Charlie and the did Dirk square job [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► states that the world seems to go crazy [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► every now and then like your uncle [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► Charlie fact real tactful Graham realtek [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► one line that entertained me not for the [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► shallow reason you think was wine for [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► dinner sounds so gay [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► no it's not because of that just because [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► what else are you drinking wine yeah [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► that was that was that was that [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► yes did not not just the the use of [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► words then and now but for the idea of [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► like normally we just eat cardboard and [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► drink tap water we drink our wine [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► starting at eleven o'clock in the [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► morning i feel it's true for most of the [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► members of this family [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► I'm not talking about murder i'm talking [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► about me killing her and her giving me [TS]

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00:49:52 ◼   ► speaking a murder [TS]

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00:49:56 ◼   ► crewman yeah there's your connection [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► take the plan adapted for the screen for [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► his good friend out there is a [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► connection between these two [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► yes interesting yes so people who were [TS]

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00:50:08 ◼   ► connection to him crown and who is pitch [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► cocks music apparently there's not to be [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► much plot recap here because there's no [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► plot this is the this is a the bottle [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► episode of Hitchcock movies yes [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► you want to spend one of two one of two [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► lifeboat being the iphone is the other [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► one it's a Colombo that's exactly what i [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► thought this is sunshine colombo yeah he [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► even walks out and then comes back in [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah she's I hate to bother [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► you but one watching one more thing I [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► forgot to mention I was 11 my life that [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► i forgot to mention that you've [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► misinterpreted my lectures about the [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► inhumanity of man and heavy right to [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► kill admit I didn't really mean it like [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► that i feel really bad i hate to but I [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► need to check the trunk now I got used [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► to have a chest just like this it could [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► I look inside this chest because it [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► would be shuttered members for me as a [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► child I should play with this catch [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► I know mrs. never comes to these kind of [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► party i know i said everybody should be [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► murdered but I didn't mean everybody [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► should be murdered [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► I don't feel like I have to recap it [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► yeah we're done [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► so it's a baby basically Brandon and [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► Phillip are our two are are are a gay [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► couple good friends good friends so they [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► are an accessory little bit this is I [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► love em it's never discussed but it's [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► just they're having students some [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► reading on this movie and it talks about [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► well the homosexual subtext I scraped [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► out some subjects [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► oh no it is not i gotta be honest I did [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► not I did not get that initially in fact [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► the only reason the only because they're [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► fresh out of college they could very [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► easily be respect and just bury and is [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► talking about how he previously dated [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► Janet the oh oh yeah yeah so anyway [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► they're they're very they're a couple [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► and they have this apartment in there [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► they've planned to some amazing apart [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► and when we first see them they are [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► strangling somebody to death [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► this is the thing if you're complaining [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► about shadow of a doubt is boy they [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► really didn't leave much in the way of [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► doubt as to what their uncle Charlie's [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► but they don't have this will know this [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► because this is colombo that's the whole [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► point of this movie that opening shot [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► right as soon as the soon as the credits [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► and they are strengthening their 330 [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► incidentally david i-i love how idyllic [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► the music is during the opening credits [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► like the opening credits music yes it [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► sounds like this is going to be a lovely [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► piano Rob through mr. shadow of a doubt [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► to but it's getting late [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► he's here because that gigantic dramatic [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► title card that says rope in the crazy [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► fog comes up and then this string swell [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► and it's sort of a lovely lilt no it [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► doesn't go dark until we pan into you [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► know the apartment essentially it's like [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► although the curtains are drawn that's a [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► little we all god somebody's being [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► strangled right now has somehow [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► streaming as he's being strangled which [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► is a bit odd I thought yeah [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► yes so so the the conceited this movie [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► is that the entire film other than the [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► opening shot where there's a there's a [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► cut if robert zemeckis had been directed [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► miss it would have gone through that [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► window and through those curtains and [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► all the way in but Hitchcock just cuts [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► from me from the outside to the inside [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► but we spend the entire time in this [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► apartment the entire film is there it is [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► the bottle episode but but not just the [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► location but the fact that these are [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► continuous takes each goes for about 10 [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► minutes and then we we linger for a [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► moment to ponder the back of somebody's [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► can assume into somebody's jacket yeah [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► there are several cuts though which is [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► we always strange me because I think [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► they go unnoticed refuse because it you [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► kind of went out but there are several [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► just like jump cuts yet are slow [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► charging but but purposeful in the [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► replacement like i said i think those [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► actually probably are better than the [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► zoom into the jacket shot yeah I don't [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► like a turd in a punch but the gimmick [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► cuts are super distracting to me because [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► I spent the whole movie watching for [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► them the jump cuts are because they had [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► to physically change the real story is [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► in the projectors so he he said I don't [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► need to cover those they have to change [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► them anyway so Brandt Brandon Phillips I [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► have committed what they what they hope [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► is the perfect murder for certain values [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► of murderers as as John doll who plays [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► Brandon says over and over and we pause [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► here and examine how this could possibly [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► be the perfect murder when they have [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► absolutely no plan other than kill the [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► guy [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► well you take advantage of the country [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► and cook in Connecticut and then you [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► just dump his body in the lake and never [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► know I i think their arguments they have [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► no motive that they have they have no [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► motive also also they've got they've [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► phoned from the done a fake phone call [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► from the city to say that [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► hi I'm David I'm definitely alive and [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► i'll definitely see you three hours [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► later went to disguise where they are i [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► think there's a lot of this plot we [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► haven't we [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► get the sea but I think the best thing [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► would be completely completely [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► appropriate this guy's arrogance is just [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► that it's perfect is that I've seen I've [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► looked small angles and only Son my [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► genius could ya that's what happened [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► with Leopold and Loeb is there yeah they [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► had the perfect murder and it fell apart [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► immediately even for that if if even if [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► it had the initial part had worked out [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► it's so unbelievably poor of a plan [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► there's no way they could possibly have [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► gotten away with it it's absurd yeah [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► they're basically Batman villains one of [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► the closest friends GI who are we going [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► to question they go out of their way to [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► invite people to the scene of the crime [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► people that are looking for the person [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► who's dead [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► that's for arrogance that's the showing [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► off this is the crux of the movie that's [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► not a mistake that is here here it was a [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► mistake i said it was like being a [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► Batman villain take a look at the kind [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► of people were dealing with here that [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► it's not enough that they would just [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► simply kill somebody for stored they [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► would also want to make sure that if [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► that they know that [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► oh my god we actually had the body out [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► in the middle of the room and nobody [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► knew it aren't we brilliant yes this [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► this is an rands dead poets society [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► let's put let's put candles on it let [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► surface lid on it let's invite the [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► parents to the party give the dad the [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► murder weapon exactly arguing [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► surprisingly loud voice about the murder [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► in full view day uh they shove poor poor [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► David's body into a trunk and then [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► decide hey we're gonna have a dinner [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► party let's serve dinner on the trunk [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► and as jason says they put the [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► candelabras up there and they've invited [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► David's father and what turns out to be [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► his Dowager aunt I guess they've invited [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► David's girlfriend invited the former [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► boyfriend of David's girlfriend and most [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► importantly they've invited the beloved [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► a headmaster from their prep school who [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► is played by Jimmy Stewart to attend the [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► party as well and Jimmy's that was their [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► first mistake never bring Jimmy story [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► ya ever bring Jimmy Stewart to any party [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► well did you love David because you know [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► I understand you have to kill him that [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► haha call back to earlier that's his [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► deep cut I spent much of the movie [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► confusing John doll for [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► young Jimmy Stewart I i think the it's [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► interesting the day and they talk about [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► him as a potential co-conspirator and [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► then right at but uh but uh who's the I [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► who's the idea man is that is that [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► Brandon Brandon is bringing yeah [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► Brandon's the idea man Brandon's like I [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► he wouldn't have the guts to pull it off [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► you know we he believes in it from an [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► idea standpoint but not he couldn't [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► actually do it but i like that they have [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► this fantasy that that Jimmy Stewart is [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► one of them or almost one of them and [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► they invite him sort of glee of like oh [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► he gets to be part of this thing the [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► idea sort of germinated in long [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► discussions they had with him and he was [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► there housemaster right so now that [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► they're his ideas that they're putting [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► into practice here I did they get sad [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► that poor Farley Granger is always [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► getting talked into murdering people [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► actually know you know once is an [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► accident by strangers on the train yes [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► that's but that's the other genius of [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► love just how this is constructed where [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► you feel as though it's not unjust [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► enough for this guy to plot a murder [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► committed murder just for fun and then [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► again have the dinner party with the [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► body of the open [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► he also is getting this big rise out of [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► i have basically talked and browbeat [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► this person into being my accomplice in [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► this murder even though he has apps he [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► does not share my belief system that [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► people should die for my amusement [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► I mean there's there's a little bit of a [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► corollary between him and uncle Charlie [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► I think from shadow of a doubt like both [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► of whom kind of seem to believe that [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► they are above above morals no I don't [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► know I i feel as though you're Charlie's [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► just seriously bent whereas this person [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► is just such as as a psychopathic [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► behavior and so yeah he's really [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► grounded [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► well he's on his way he's younger me as [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► if there's a there's a difference [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► between like the deserts of seeing the [TS]