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00:00:31   februari 2015 welcome back everybody to [TS]

00:00:35   be uncomfortable i am your host Jason [TS]

00:00:37   Steele we're here I'm convening another [TS]

00:00:39   meeting of the old movie club or Movie [TS]

00:00:42   Club the big and mean it [TS]

00:00:45   our topic today will be two films from [TS]

00:00:50   alfred hitchcock this has been pitched [TS]

00:00:53   to me as the underappreciated Hitchcock [TS]

00:00:56   segment we're going to be talking about [TS]

00:00:57   1943 shadow of a doubt and 1940s rope [TS]

00:01:01   and I i will introduce my panelists now [TS]

00:01:06   David lower hello [TS]

00:01:07   gucci me Monty ashley i only watch these [TS]

00:01:11   movies to demonstrate that I could [TS]

00:01:13   commit a perfect murder [TS]

00:01:15   it didn't work now I find a lot of holes [TS]

00:01:19   in all these laws will eventually since [TS]

00:01:21   she just confessed in a podcast like [TS]

00:01:24   tragic flaw indeed and Enoch oh hello hi [TS]

00:01:28   there I i I'm gonna be a bit late coming [TS]

00:01:30   in here because i'm selling a newspaper [TS]

00:01:32   to a suspiciously portly gentleman whose [TS]

00:01:35   back is turned to the camera open up [TS]

00:01:37   he's already left i'm ok now you look [TS]

00:01:40   familiar [TS]

00:01:41   I don't I couldn't go to play these it [TS]

00:01:42   was just through so quickly that I [TS]

00:01:44   couldn't place it could really see his [TS]

00:01:45   face and a moron hello [TS]

00:01:48   no one will convict me for killing all [TS]

00:01:50   of you that's probably accurate [TS]

00:01:53   well Steve let's also out there who [TS]

00:01:55   could forget Steve let's I can't imagine [TS]

00:01:57   a person could forget Steve lot when [TS]

00:01:59   you're using our theme song for the old [TS]

00:02:01   movie club its reward movie clubs young [TS]

00:02:04   not really a theme or a song not the [TS]

00:02:07   theme song for the old movie it is [TS]

00:02:09   anyway [TS]

00:02:10   and the instigator of this whole thing [TS]

00:02:12   is Philip Michaels can you explain your [TS]

00:02:15   thinking in this that the concept that [TS]

00:02:18   you you you chose for us with these two [TS]

00:02:20   films i would be happy to jason i think [TS]

00:02:22   when you mention alfred hitchcock of the [TS]

00:02:25   movies that most rapidly spring to mind [TS]

00:02:28   are your psychos and your North by [TS]

00:02:30   Northwest and maybe your rear windows or [TS]

00:02:34   if you're if you're really a film snoot [TS]

00:02:38   of vertigo or or even the birds but for [TS]

00:02:43   my money basically the movies at high [TS]

00:02:45   anxiety [TS]

00:02:46   yes what what well I'll of North by [TS]

00:02:49   Northwest I think that's a really good [TS]

00:02:51   movie i think some of Hitchcock's best [TS]

00:02:53   work is some of his earlier stuff and I [TS]

00:02:56   think it often gets overlooked for one [TS]

00:02:58   reason or another and I I i wanted to 2a [TS]

00:03:01   bring these movies one of which is my [TS]

00:03:04   favorite Hitchcock movie and the other [TS]

00:03:06   of which is I i think is really a neat [TS]

00:03:08   neat bit of film film trickery that I i [TS]

00:03:13   think we can talk about all right should [TS]

00:03:16   we start with then with shadow of a [TS]

00:03:18   doubt from 1943 and not a spoiler alert [TS]

00:03:21   this is my favorite Hitchcock uh-oh [TS]

00:03:24   you've ruined the rest of the podcast [TS]

00:03:25   yeah books and if you--if interviews [TS]

00:03:29   with alfred hitchcock ER to be believed [TS]

00:03:31   this was his favorite movie of all truth [TS]

00:03:33   singing that man is a liar [TS]

00:03:35   yeah haha sell shadow of a doubt as he [TS]

00:03:38   said it's a 1943 and it is filmed in a [TS]

00:03:43   place very very near to where Jason [TS]

00:03:45   Meyer podcasting tonight Santa Rosa [TS]

00:03:47   California but i get i get ahead of [TS]

00:03:49   myself the movie opens up in what is [TS]

00:03:53   some sort of urban hellscape I assume [TS]

00:03:55   it's Philadelphia it enslaves numerous [TS]

00:03:57   Heller hellscape is when I got it it has [TS]

00:04:00   that whole eastcoast life is [TS]

00:04:03   deteriorating vibe and it looks rather [TS]

00:04:06   newcastle s Caswell oh yeah exactly [TS]

00:04:09   uh-huh i had a direct a kazoo parade to [TS]

00:04:12   walk through in the Alliance a shout out [TS]

00:04:15   to earlier and yes that's right that's [TS]

00:04:17   some old movie club continuity their [TS]

00:04:19   catalog the right people get it [TS]

00:04:21   up and they want to appreciate it but [TS]

00:04:23   they'll get it I don't appreciate a nice [TS]

00:04:26   set it good [TS]

00:04:27   Joseph copy this line of a bad then ma [TS]

00:04:31   indeed all right [TS]

00:04:33   as it turns out some some dudes are [TS]

00:04:36   looking for him and and he looks to be a [TS]

00:04:39   cat and a spot of trouble so he loots [TS]

00:04:42   that the two guys that are looking for [TS]

00:04:43   him and sends a telegram to his family [TS]

00:04:45   in santa rosa california that he's gonna [TS]

00:04:47   come out for a visit [TS]

00:04:48   meanwhile at that same time in santa [TS]

00:04:50   rosa california uh the family who is a [TS]

00:04:54   represented by Teresa Wright who plays [TS]

00:04:58   also a young lady named Charlie I should [TS]

00:05:01   mention the joseph cotten is uncle [TS]

00:05:03   Charlie so they have that connection you [TS]

00:05:05   see and also they may be the only two [TS]

00:05:07   intelligent people in their entire fam [TS]

00:05:09   well we'll get to that I think later in [TS]

00:05:11   the whole town of Santa Rosa yes it's [TS]

00:05:13   it's not a very bright family haha so [TS]

00:05:17   Teresa Wright is a bit down in the dumps [TS]

00:05:20   she's feeling that there in Iraq and [TS]

00:05:22   then she gets on the idea to invite [TS]

00:05:24   uncle Charlie out for a visit [TS]

00:05:25   Oh uncle Charlie sent a telegram that [TS]

00:05:27   he's coming yeah they have a connection [TS]

00:05:30   you see and uncle Charlie arrives and [TS]

00:05:34   almost immediately the time I stop you [TS]

00:05:37   for a moment as I enjoy the line i enjoy [TS]

00:05:39   the exchange between the lady at the [TS]

00:05:41   telegraph company and any young Charlie [TS]

00:05:43   where she says have you ever thought [TS]

00:05:45   about telepathy and the old ladies like [TS]

00:05:47   to look at these my business I don't [TS]

00:05:49   believe it [TS]

00:05:49   yeah yeah I wanted to what struck me was [TS]

00:05:52   the fact we are your ass lady seemed [TS]

00:05:53   genuinely worried about her business [TS]

00:05:55   model for a second there like a white [TS]

00:05:57   wait wait you can communicate with [TS]

00:05:58   outliers was going to bubble was never [TS]

00:06:00   gonna burst [TS]

00:06:02   it's over but for telegrams anyhow so [TS]

00:06:04   uncle Charlie arrives in town and almost [TS]

00:06:06   immediately both the viewer and Teresa [TS]

00:06:09   Wright can spot there's something not [TS]

00:06:11   quite right but he's he's got some [TS]

00:06:14   secrets he does some very weird things [TS]

00:06:17   he's snatching newspapers out of peoples [TS]

00:06:19   and dismissed [TS]

00:06:20   he's giving out gifts with other [TS]

00:06:21   people's names engraved on that and he [TS]

00:06:25   talks about how elderly women should [TS]

00:06:27   probably be choked just on principle [TS]

00:06:29   well we're getting ahead for getting [TS]

00:06:31   ahead of ourselves and a lot of fun at [TS]

00:06:32   dinner parties [TS]

00:06:33   yes [TS]

00:06:34   so also I that moment of like hey it's [TS]

00:06:37   joseph cotten I remember him from such [TS]

00:06:40   movies as as the third man and citizen [TS]

00:06:43   came and I now suspect him of everything [TS]

00:06:46   right except in those movies like he's [TS]

00:06:50   yes he's a nice guy and and here he [TS]

00:06:53   shows up and he's East he immediately [TS]

00:06:55   gives off a creepy vibe and and the [TS]

00:06:57   first time I ever saw this movie instead [TS]

00:06:58   of talking to be ok because Joseph [TS]

00:07:00   gotten a nice guy [TS]

00:07:02   no he's not thank you know he's very bad [TS]

00:07:05   at being a nice guy in this that [TS]

00:07:06   newspaper here and again [TS]

00:07:08   yeah well trying to cover his tracks and [TS]

00:07:10   all it doesn't make everybody in the [TS]

00:07:12   house say hey look what uncle Charlie [TS]

00:07:14   did to that newspaper you stole a page [TS]

00:07:16   hey everybody he ripped up dad's [TS]

00:07:18   newspaper dad's gonna be upset even [TS]

00:07:20   before that like when he shows up at the [TS]

00:07:21   station and he let everybody else carry [TS]

00:07:23   his bags from even like the little kids [TS]

00:07:25   are like carrying his bags like I'm just [TS]

00:07:26   gonna stand back here i'm not you know [TS]

00:07:27   if you pretend to be sick to first right [TS]

00:07:29   ladies getting off the green he looks [TS]

00:07:31   all feeble and then he's like spring [TS]

00:07:33   along and sauntering and then he's like [TS]

00:07:35   yes children carry my heavy bags for [TS]

00:07:37   being the newspapers cost the equivalent [TS]

00:07:39   of about six hundred dollars in 1940's [TS]

00:07:42   that must be unbelievably anal about [TS]

00:07:44   that newspaper the kids are terrified [TS]

00:07:46   remember the back then if you missed out [TS]

00:07:48   on that paper that's only gonna be [TS]

00:07:50   another four hours wait until the next [TS]

00:07:51   10 dare take the comics Clarence will [TS]

00:07:55   fly into a murderous rage and see how I [TS]

00:07:59   i assume that everyone's Oh uncle [TS]

00:08:01   Charlie he's always playing tricks and [TS]

00:08:03   stunts that's why why you have that so [TS]

00:08:05   two gentlemen show up and they're [TS]

00:08:07   they're pretending to do a survey of the [TS]

00:08:09   fat American family [TS]

00:08:11   it basically the FBI in those days has [TS]

00:08:14   has no no skillet subterfuge and more [TS]

00:08:18   recently with suppressed because it's [TS]

00:08:20   quite clear that they are there solely [TS]

00:08:22   to check up on Uncle Charlie they had as [TS]

00:08:24   much skill as they needed [TS]

00:08:26   yes good just for this is very much a [TS]

00:08:28   hey your shoelace is untied kind of [TS]

00:08:30   people you need to deal with their on [TS]

00:08:33   behalf of money girion prince who's got [TS]

00:08:35   a bank account for him where we're at [TS]

00:08:37   the point where uh-uh FBI man a square [TS]

00:08:43   jaw breaks the nineties [TS]

00:08:44   just so that's fo marks i honestly [TS]

00:08:47   thought for a moment he was a postmark [TS]

00:08:49   he's just had that sort of wave the air [TS]

00:08:51   yeah he knows a long torso breaks the [TS]

00:08:54   news to Charlie that I thought he was at [TS]

00:08:56   Martin after several good punches to the [TS]

00:08:58   face that her uncle might actually be a [TS]

00:09:02   murderer [TS]

00:09:04   yes and not just any murder but a serial [TS]

00:09:08   killer who goes around like women widows [TS]

00:09:11   and taking their money and then leaving [TS]

00:09:13   him for dead and it's either it's either [TS]

00:09:16   him or another guy in the east coast so [TS]

00:09:18   they're they're following him so that's [TS]

00:09:20   like week 11 of American Idol we know [TS]

00:09:22   it's gonna be one of these to stay tuned [TS]

00:09:24   after the break to find out feel good [TS]

00:09:26   about the crime-fighting of 1943 they're [TS]

00:09:28   like we got it narrowed down to two guys [TS]

00:09:30   who has been murdering everybody what is [TS]

00:09:33   the evidence is there someone is like [TS]

00:09:34   Schrodinger's cat evidence somewhere [TS]

00:09:36   that it's like it's definitely one of [TS]

00:09:38   these two guys the things that will one [TS]

00:09:39   later on is that they have the same [TS]

00:09:41   initials is the thing like when they [TS]

00:09:43   when they talk later on about like the [TS]

00:09:44   guy they captured his initials are also [TS]

00:09:46   like co-owned so Mike apparently he left [TS]

00:09:48   like a monogrammed handkerchief is [TS]

00:09:50   significant rock and there's nothing I i [TS]

00:09:52   believe this is what we call in the [TS]

00:09:53   business MacGuffin just keep moving [TS]

00:09:56   along but apparently the way it works is [TS]

00:09:58   that as soon as one suspect is dead all [TS]

00:10:00   of the others are exhausted yeah well my [TS]

00:10:02   top yeah well I realized realized this [TS]

00:10:05   was j edgar Hoover's FBI so first step [TS]

00:10:07   eliminate all the Protestants really [TS]

00:10:10   narrows the suspect pulled down if [TS]

00:10:12   they're positive they know which one of [TS]

00:10:13   these two guys I feel like they could [TS]

00:10:15   have turned up their investigation a [TS]

00:10:17   little more than without the older may [TS]

00:10:20   long fake survey said that doesn't that [TS]

00:10:24   does indicate their entire manpower on [TS]

00:10:26   this case was four guys can split them [TS]

00:10:28   into two guys that way two guys the [TS]

00:10:30   other way [TS]

00:10:31   probably not enlisting the help of an 18 [TS]

00:10:33   year old ladies you mean operative is it [TS]

00:10:37   is also about law enforcement strategic [TS]

00:10:40   resell em now young charlie is beginning [TS]

00:10:43   to have her suspicions about Uncle [TS]

00:10:45   Charlie who is getting creepier and [TS]

00:10:47   creepier with every sea and it is not a [TS]

00:10:50   lot for a room for him to go there is [TS]

00:10:52   not good pretty creepy and also those [TS]

00:10:54   two are flirting with each other yeah [TS]

00:10:56   what you see is what the weird and [TS]

00:10:58   uncomfortable sexual tension [TS]

00:11:00   well I think that's quite intentional on [TS]

00:11:02   num Hitchcock's part and speaking of [TS]

00:11:03   movies that Teresa Wright would go on to [TS]

00:11:06   make she later made a movie with joseph [TS]

00:11:08   cotten which he could place my fabulous [TS]

00:11:11   yeah um but yeah I know basically a [TS]

00:11:16   uncle Charlie starts off at the ceiling [TS]

00:11:18   of creepy and then like high recovery [TS]

00:11:20   that burrow through the ceiling [TS]

00:11:22   I don't have you would happen and [TS]

00:11:24   because Andy mentioned already that the [TS]

00:11:28   monologue that on the uncle Charlie [TS]

00:11:31   gives about widows is is is it is quite [TS]

00:11:36   delightful one of my favorite bits of [TS]

00:11:38   dialogue in any Hitchcock movie uh [TS]

00:11:40   because it and and what did the wives do [TS]

00:11:43   these useless women you see them in the [TS]

00:11:45   hotel's the best hotels every day by the [TS]

00:11:47   thousands drinking their money eating [TS]

00:11:49   their monthly notices money at the [TS]

00:11:51   bridge they not did night smelling of [TS]

00:11:54   money proud of their jewelry but if [TS]

00:11:55   nothing else horrible faded fat greedy [TS]

00:11:58   women are they are the human are they [TS]

00:12:01   fat we had an amazing animals and what [TS]

00:12:04   happens to animals when they get too fat [TS]

00:12:06   too old and and and and the context of [TS]

00:12:09   this is he supposed to give a speech to [TS]

00:12:11   the local women's clothing and Trump his [TS]

00:12:14   mother uncle Charlie sister sister but I [TS]

00:12:16   hope you don't give that speech to the [TS]

00:12:18   club was good yeah he's really great [TS]

00:12:21   speechifying I'm workshopping a few open [TS]

00:12:23   legs tonight for you used to see the [TS]

00:12:25   roses greatest orators of all time by [TS]

00:12:28   contrast my favorite dialogue in the [TS]

00:12:29   movie is say I've never had a wristwatch [TS]

00:12:32   the fellows at the bank will think I'm [TS]

00:12:34   quite a sport it's evidenced by the fact [TS]

00:12:37   that doesn't know how to put it on and [TS]

00:12:40   try z fumbles with ya that anyhow uh [TS]

00:12:42   everyone uh in santa rosa just embraces [TS]

00:12:46   uncle Charlie to their beliefs because [TS]

00:12:47   because he is the most wonderful thing [TS]

00:12:49   which I i think is again and a very [TS]

00:12:51   intentional thing that Hitchcock did [TS]

00:12:53   because that the terror in this movie is [TS]

00:12:56   what if you know something horrible [TS]

00:12:59   about someone that you previously loved [TS]

00:13:03   and admired and no one believes you [TS]

00:13:05   everybody like yeah yeah because you [TS]

00:13:07   never said anything to any [TS]

00:13:09   buddy so at as we've mentioned there are [TS]

00:13:12   two suspects and charlie is consumed [TS]

00:13:15   uncle Charlie he needs to leave town and [TS]

00:13:18   the and he's about to bolt and then all [TS]

00:13:20   of a sudden word comes over the radio [TS]

00:13:21   that suspect number two has a fled from [TS]

00:13:24   the FBI and run into a propeller blade [TS]

00:13:26   and was closing the case then offered [TS]

00:13:30   his cock master of plot not to [TS]

00:13:32   foreshadow but if you're if you're a [TS]

00:13:34   serial murderer i suggest watching out [TS]

00:13:36   for various forms of transportation that [TS]

00:13:38   just like your undoing it yeah and if [TS]

00:13:40   it's down to you and one other guy find [TS]

00:13:42   any other guy take care of the other guy [TS]

00:13:44   as we've mentioned Hume Cronyn is in [TS]

00:13:46   this movie as the as the next door [TS]

00:13:48   neighbor who has a fascination with true [TS]

00:13:50   crime and murders and he literally says [TS]

00:13:54   at that point when the news comes up [TS]

00:13:55   over the radio [TS]

00:13:56   well I guess that wraps up this case and [TS]

00:13:59   it's not like the rick moranis of this [TS]

00:14:01   i'm fascinated by the human Cronin's [TS]

00:14:03   character and also his relationship with [TS]

00:14:05   the dad where they have these [TS]

00:14:07   conversations of how they will kill how [TS]

00:14:09   I will kill you [TS]

00:14:11   I get away with it this way it makes [TS]

00:14:12   perfect sense though because he murders [TS]

00:14:14   the dad who then goes on to become [TS]

00:14:15   Clarence the angel so it all worked out [TS]

00:14:18   with the nineteen-forties it was the [TS]

00:14:21   love that could not speak its name [TS]

00:14:22   they're great though I think they're my [TS]

00:14:23   favorite part of the whole help although [TS]

00:14:24   how freaky was it to see I actually had [TS]

00:14:27   to like look up his age he was 32 years [TS]

00:14:29   old my God he's like a young Hume Cronyn [TS]

00:14:32   I didn't know they even made through [TS]

00:14:33   that I had never seen a non raise any [TS]

00:14:35   human Cronin i'm going to show you [TS]

00:14:37   exactly what he has kind of a like a [TS]

00:14:39   henry winkler meets val kilmer thing [TS]

00:14:41   going to be like just just a dash of [TS]

00:14:44   Crispin Glover throne energy i even more [TS]

00:14:46   than a dashi may have a whole cup of [TS]

00:14:48   Crispin Glover through it was a weird [TS]

00:14:50   weird character that's that's a pretty [TS]

00:14:52   strong just get Andy magnet right there [TS]

00:14:55   um Cronin is the uncomfortable neighbor [TS]

00:14:58   who really likes talking about killing [TS]

00:15:00   PTF now it shows up it always shows up [TS]

00:15:03   or like in the middle entertainer [TS]

00:15:04   because he's a lonely man yeah he'll [TS]

00:15:08   just walk into the house at dinnertime [TS]

00:15:09   it's my god he does all he has his [TS]

00:15:11   mother and his murders [TS]

00:15:13   that's a key plot point yea cantonese is [TS]

00:15:16   lowest le yeah the way i read that [TS]

00:15:18   character to as I kept sort of expecting [TS]

00:15:20   that he would be blamed for a for a [TS]

00:15:22   murder [TS]

00:15:23   down the down the line because you know [TS]

00:15:24   we always talk about murders me super [TS]

00:15:26   creepy and kind of a weirdo [TS]

00:15:28   he had an outbreak has happened to swing [TS]

00:15:30   by with a basket of poison mushrooms [TS]

00:15:31   just to explain how easy it would be to [TS]

00:15:33   slip these on the people's food also i [TS]

00:15:35   love the part where he poisons coffee [TS]

00:15:36   with soda that's yeah oh yeah that was [TS]

00:15:39   that was some great bending I don't get [TS]

00:15:40   the mushrooms are poison that he brings [TS]

00:15:41   over i think he just brings them as an [TS]

00:15:43   example of much yes you can discuss [TS]

00:15:45   poisoned by agents see these mushrooms [TS]

00:15:48   because if i had not brought the visual [TS]

00:15:50   aid you would had no idea what I was [TS]

00:15:52   talking about [TS]

00:15:53   he's a prop comic uncle Charlie just [TS]

00:15:55   bounds up the stairs joyful that he's [TS]

00:15:57   off the hook up and then he turns around [TS]

00:16:00   and looks at young Charlie and realize [TS]

00:16:02   oh god she knows i have to totally kill [TS]

00:16:04   her yeah and so the remainder of the [TS]

00:16:07   movie which at this point we've got like [TS]

00:16:08   20 minutes half an hour left is just [TS]

00:16:11   basically him trying to kill his niece [TS]

00:16:13   over and over again and being really bad [TS]

00:16:15   at it a couple things one is i love the [TS]

00:16:17   scene where he's on the stairs their [TS]

00:16:18   first there are a lot of staircases in [TS]

00:16:20   this BS this movie is is this in case in [TS]

00:16:22   the house in the back staircase that [TS]

00:16:24   same i think it's all yes I and then [TS]

00:16:26   he's full staircase staircase staircase [TS]

00:16:30   yes i love the scene where Joseph Cotten [TS]

00:16:32   gets to the top of the stairs and he [TS]

00:16:33   just stops and you're still looking at [TS]

00:16:34   his back you know you and and and he's [TS]

00:16:37   just standing there and that's that [TS]

00:16:38   realization that she's down there in the [TS]

00:16:40   doorway looking at him and that this is [TS]

00:16:42   going to be a problem and that's just a [TS]

00:16:44   fantastic fantastic seen the other thing [TS]

00:16:47   i want to mention is that the you will [TS]

00:16:49   talk about movies we often talk about [TS]

00:16:50   pacing and I I don't want to say this in [TS]

00:16:53   a negative way I what I would let me [TS]

00:16:56   phrase it this way if there were a [TS]

00:16:57   modern retelling of this film we would [TS]

00:17:01   get to the he's going to try to kill her [TS]

00:17:02   repeatedly like 10 minutes in and then [TS]

00:17:05   it would go on for two hours and that's [TS]

00:17:07   not what happens in this movie there's [TS]

00:17:08   like an hour of setup before we even get [TS]

00:17:12   close to realizing where this movie is [TS]

00:17:15   going to end up whereas a modern movie [TS]

00:17:17   with just the whole movie would just be [TS]

00:17:19   like final destination except it's [TS]

00:17:22   Charlie trying to kill Charlie Charlie [TS]

00:17:25   versus Charlie ok [TS]

00:17:27   that could be what we call anyway so I [TS]

00:17:28   appreciated that it was sort of it [TS]

00:17:29   escalates to this moment and then we get [TS]

00:17:31   this sort of frenzied last half hour [TS]

00:17:33   where [TS]

00:17:34   there's the back-and-forth of him trying [TS]

00:17:36   to kill her and I think in a way that's [TS]

00:17:39   why this is Hitchcock's favorite movie [TS]

00:17:40   because it it is it is the slow build to [TS]

00:17:43   perfection [TS]

00:17:44   where where it builds and builds and [TS]

00:17:47   builds and the tension increases [TS]

00:17:49   throughout the movie until until the [TS]

00:17:52   last act which is basically yeah things [TS]

00:17:55   are happening and so there you go [TS]

00:17:57   I mean there's that whole wonderful [TS]

00:17:59   conversation about basically what is an [TS]

00:18:01   earworm that goes for about five minutes [TS]

00:18:03   early on because she can't get the song [TS]

00:18:05   out of your head and then I think songs [TS]

00:18:07   like that transfer from head-to-head and [TS]

00:18:09   if I hum it long enough you'll think [TS]

00:18:11   what it is and then he has to distract [TS]

00:18:13   them before anyone realizes it's the [TS]

00:18:14   merry widow you so who's who started off [TS]

00:18:17   humming The Merry Widow I i missed on [TS]

00:18:19   who it was that initiate that young [TS]

00:18:21   charter yeah because there was another [TS]

00:18:23   day telepathy thing [TS]

00:18:24   yeah even you think you're the clever [TS]

00:18:27   little girl who knows something [TS]

00:18:29   there's so much you don't know so much [TS]

00:18:31   what do you know really you're just an [TS]

00:18:33   ordinary girl limited an ordinary little [TS]

00:18:35   town you wake up every morning if your [TS]

00:18:37   life and you know perfectly well that [TS]

00:18:38   there's nothing in the world to trouble [TS]

00:18:40   you [TS]

00:18:40   you go through your ordinary little date [TS]

00:18:42   night you sleep you're troubled ordinary [TS]

00:18:44   little sleep filled with peaceful stupid [TS]

00:18:46   dreams and I brought you nightmares [TS]

00:18:49   Uncle Chuck broke the movie meter with [TS]

00:18:51   that dialogue he at me [TS]

00:18:54   that's a culturally to his beloved nice [TS]

00:18:56   moments was when he was seven and he [TS]

00:18:58   started talking that way that it was [TS]

00:19:00   really creepy he tries to knock her down [TS]

00:19:01   the stairs he tries to as asphyxiate ER [TS]

00:19:04   in a in a garage with the door slams [TS]

00:19:07   shut and she's stuck in there without [TS]

00:19:08   which almost works [TS]

00:19:10   yeah look are you know about human krone [TS]

00:19:12   and saves the day destination doesn't [TS]

00:19:14   rescuer just goes and tells everyone [TS]

00:19:16   else that this was there when she wasn't [TS]

00:19:19   did that seem like a red herring anybody [TS]

00:19:21   else I almost felt as though [TS]

00:19:23   oh they're going to indicate that he's [TS]

00:19:25   actually the detective because no he [TS]

00:19:26   didn't just happen to be walking by he [TS]

00:19:28   was actually casing and keeping an eye [TS]

00:19:30   on things and I was pretty surprised to [TS]

00:19:32   find that no he was just being human [TS]

00:19:34   Cronin I think they did that because it [TS]

00:19:36   creates the stagecraft where uncle [TS]

00:19:38   Charlie can put the keys back in the car [TS]

00:19:40   and and make it look like it wasn't a [TS]

00:19:42   total setup [TS]

00:19:43   yeah because otherwise you say well how [TS]

00:19:46   did this happen [TS]

00:19:47   well someone was trying to kill her [TS]

00:19:49   obviously was here it looks just like an [TS]

00:19:51   accident uncle Charlie is the first into [TS]

00:19:53   the into the garage which she is in that [TS]

00:19:56   scene although he's got to get back [TS]

00:19:58   first before anybody else doesn't kick [TS]

00:20:00   the thing out from under the door [TS]

00:20:01   you know right to carry it off as kind [TS]

00:20:03   of a problem with a plan and I i think [TS]

00:20:07   the only I don't think was that specific [TS]

00:20:09   i think it was just because everybody [TS]

00:20:11   else is inside the house when you're [TS]

00:20:12   writing the screenplay oh well how did [TS]

00:20:14   they find me easy he's also turned [TS]

00:20:15   cranked up the radio but coincidentally [TS]

00:20:18   two seconds into and news from knows [TS]

00:20:21   from from washington state as hard for [TS]

00:20:23   the cliq hey let's listen to some really [TS]

00:20:25   loud music now why is it a lot of [TS]

00:20:27   Charlie okies you like a nice you don't [TS]

00:20:29   get the base until you crank it out [TS]

00:20:30   which is actual line i think that it was [TS]

00:20:32   like okay who do we have that's not in [TS]

00:20:34   the house right now as a screenwriter [TS]

00:20:35   Unicron ok whatever mobile just say he [TS]

00:20:38   happened to be passing by there may have [TS]

00:20:41   been humans suggestion i noticed i'm not [TS]

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00:22:42   the reason that Charlie why I mean I I [TS]

00:22:45   take the point that everybody likes him [TS]

00:22:47   he's giving a speech or he's about to go [TS]

00:22:49   when he tries a killer he's get going to [TS]

00:22:51   go give a speech that's going to go down [TS]

00:22:52   as one of the finest speeches in santa [TS]

00:22:54   rosa history a minister says so Jason [TS]

00:22:56   yeah this now you guys are right near [TS]

00:22:59   santa rosa houses that speech stack up i [TS]

00:23:02   sent over history [TS]

00:23:04   I'm gonna have to check i just i think [TS]

00:23:05   there's a plaque somewhere about Grayson [TS]

00:23:08   Rosa home of the legendary 1947 speech [TS]

00:23:11   by to the Unitarian you know by uncle [TS]

00:23:12   Charlie I think Charles Schulz gave a [TS]

00:23:14   speech a few years later that went over [TS]

00:23:16   well but other than that it was known to [TS]

00:23:18   Charlie they said no no your talk of [TS]

00:23:21   peanuts interesting mr. Schultz but [TS]

00:23:24   unless you mentioned phat weezy very [TS]

00:23:27   without yeah i took my point is that [TS]

00:23:29   young charlie is the thing that he's got [TS]

00:23:32   over her that prevents her from telling [TS]

00:23:34   anybody this you know it's not until the [TS]

00:23:37   very very end that he's even well-liked [TS]

00:23:39   in the town it's that it would break her [TS]

00:23:42   mother's heart which is why i wanted to [TS]

00:23:45   mention this because her mother is an [TS]

00:23:47   idiot you know what else might break [TS]

00:23:51   mom's heart when daughter dies mascot [TS]

00:23:54   char math breaks her heart into it to [TS]

00:23:58   his credit he does this really my [TS]

00:23:59   sinister speed say well you could talk [TS]

00:24:01   but you know you're ill ruin your mother [TS]

00:24:03   and hey what about your dad's job at the [TS]

00:24:05   bank you'll probably get fired from that [TS]

00:24:06   your whole family's gonna be ruined only [TS]

00:24:08   going to do is just not say anything and [TS]

00:24:10   your family will still be perfectly fine [TS]

00:24:11   you know periodically i'll try to kill [TS]

00:24:13   you but you [TS]

00:24:14   no you can ignore that it was just in [TS]

00:24:17   this motley crew of like mental [TS]

00:24:19   negatives you have to like maintain this [TS]

00:24:21   this girl is so into the one person the [TS]

00:24:23   cast who has a good head on her [TS]

00:24:24   shoulders [TS]

00:24:25   you wouldn't want your father to lose [TS]

00:24:27   that job just when everybody decided he [TS]

00:24:28   was quite a sport [TS]

00:24:29   yeah I start asking how how how can i [TS]

00:24:33   was talking a small wheel like him go [TS]

00:24:34   for the pocket wristwatch of all things [TS]

00:24:36   anyway I I her mother drives me nuts [TS]

00:24:40   because she is just it is not a really [TS]

00:24:43   great performance it is not our or [TS]

00:24:45   character it's a difficult character to [TS]

00:24:47   watch she's flighty and silly and [TS]

00:24:51   pointless and I mean it gets across the [TS]

00:24:55   fact that she'll be completely destroyed [TS]

00:24:57   because she loves her she loves her [TS]

00:24:59   brother so much that but yeah it's um I [TS]

00:25:02   don't like that character at all [TS]

00:25:04   yeah we don't hear about how she drove [TS]

00:25:05   into a streetcar three times and are you [TS]

00:25:07   but I think the lightness is quite [TS]

00:25:10   intentional so that so that it's driven [TS]

00:25:12   home that young Charlie's between a rock [TS]

00:25:16   and a hard place yes I just don't like I [TS]

00:25:17   I get why that character exist in that [TS]

00:25:20   way i just don't really like that I i [TS]

00:25:22   found that are really incredibly great [TS]

00:25:24   character [TS]

00:25:25   it did have the effect of making me [TS]

00:25:26   think the two charlies are like i said [TS]

00:25:28   at the top of the show the smartest [TS]

00:25:31   people the sharpest people in this [TS]

00:25:32   family by far i can see why they feel [TS]

00:25:35   they have a connection because you know [TS]

00:25:38   they're not sporting a new watch at the [TS]

00:25:40   bank or doing whatever the heck it is [TS]

00:25:42   that the mom is doing which is and the [TS]

00:25:45   mom has that one moment of clarity right [TS]

00:25:46   after the attempted murder in the garage [TS]

00:25:49   where she's trying to piece it together [TS]

00:25:52   in your oh you're so closer to 0 we [TS]

00:25:56   asked you to think you have to agree [TS]

00:25:58   with you on how she's extremely [TS]

00:25:59   irritating but I do know that the scene [TS]

00:26:01   where uh where the detectives are still [TS]

00:26:05   trying to pull off their whole service [TS]

00:26:06   commentary was regretting it because [TS]

00:26:08   there's a 45-minute discussion about the [TS]

00:26:11   proper time to break eggs and cake yeah [TS]

00:26:14   you don't want to miss it hilarious that [TS]

00:26:15   isn't like I can't cream the butter [TS]

00:26:17   after I've broken the hay know let's [TS]

00:26:19   let's linger on this though it is like a [TS]

00:26:21   Monty Python cielo daughter documentary [TS]

00:26:24   weekend for a documentary today [TS]

00:26:27   come on [TS]

00:26:27   yeah I don't know you can't photograph [TS]

00:26:29   that Chad so we got the new sub clip [TS]

00:26:31   cover over it but you're welcome to go [TS]

00:26:33   film me as I wick egg in the remake [TS]

00:26:36   cherry jones would play that part doing [TS]

00:26:39   anything right the x-jet so uncle [TS]

00:26:42   Charlie goes to give a speech [TS]

00:26:43   yeah greatest coach ever leaving young [TS]

00:26:46   Charlie behind since she nearly [TS]

00:26:47   asphyxiated so why not you can't go to [TS]

00:26:49   south and she nicely manipulates the [TS]

00:26:52   situation this is the moment where she [TS]

00:26:53   gets the upper hand on him she makes it [TS]

00:26:55   so he has to go give the speech and she [TS]

00:26:57   because he tried to kill her gets to [TS]

00:26:59   stay behind unguarded in the house and [TS]

00:27:01   go through his things and try to find [TS]

00:27:03   incriminating evidence it's a really [TS]

00:27:04   really nice moment where she yeah she [TS]

00:27:07   maneuvers him and he knows she's doing [TS]

00:27:09   it and there's nothing he can do about [TS]

00:27:11   it and the incriminating evidence as it [TS]

00:27:13   turns out is this ring that he gave her [TS]

00:27:15   earlier in the movie and that that he [TS]

00:27:18   then [TS]

00:27:18   well she gave it back to him because she [TS]

00:27:21   was disgusted give it back or did she [TS]

00:27:22   just leave it at the library and it went [TS]

00:27:24   in the library lost and found I feel [TS]

00:27:26   better okay left it at the bar your you [TS]

00:27:28   know and uh the ring has the engravings [TS]

00:27:33   of one of the different window victims [TS]

00:27:37   I guess I i was thinking charlie you [TS]

00:27:39   know Uncle Charlie's really great [TS]

00:27:40   shopping on a budget because it turns [TS]

00:27:43   out that you can you can give away [TS]

00:27:44   almost anything after you murdered [TS]

00:27:45   somebody [TS]

00:27:46   uh-huh one and that the the ring thing [TS]

00:27:49   one of the things i love about this i [TS]

00:27:51   mean because i love the exposition news [TS]

00:27:52   network on the radio the newspaper that [TS]

00:27:55   she finds at the library is so [TS]

00:27:57   beautifully written it's not at all like [TS]

00:28:00   a newspaper not be written but it tells [TS]

00:28:02   you everything you need to know [TS]

00:28:04   including the only victim whose initials [TS]

00:28:08   match the ring [TS]

00:28:09   none of the other victims we never learn [TS]

00:28:11   anything else about any of them and the [TS]

00:28:13   movie lingers on it for so long because [TS]

00:28:15   you're expected to read every order oreo [TS]

00:28:17   do that that's why you have to subscribe [TS]

00:28:19   to the plot advancement Tribune that's [TS]

00:28:22   right because it moves things right [TS]

00:28:24   along [TS]

00:28:24   yes we learn for all of her intellect [TS]

00:28:26   Nancy is apparently a very slow reader [TS]

00:28:29   can we also keep some praise upon that [TS]

00:28:32   wonderful actress who played the part of [TS]

00:28:34   the waitress who that who was it was it [TS]

00:28:37   was in her class in high school never [TS]

00:28:39   left out [TS]

00:28:40   oh I can that's a real die that's a real [TS]

00:28:43   emerald gee I can always tell that's not [TS]

00:28:45   looking at it I don't even have to put [TS]

00:28:47   it aside and have to ask you if it's [TS]

00:28:49   real she had dirt on someone at the [TS]

00:28:51   studio [TS]

00:28:52   yeah either that or you're was her [TS]

00:28:54   acting coach don't mind me [TS]

00:28:58   I enjoy whatever duh now she was that [TS]

00:29:00   was again I think that's a beautiful [TS]

00:29:02   small town touch ya somethin yes [TS]

00:29:04   rear-ended broken-down she's a sort of [TS]

00:29:06   character that Bruce Springsteen sings [TS]

00:29:08   about in songs i like the librarians I [TS]

00:29:11   can't let you in i got a ride ology only [TS]

00:29:13   five minutes and then you get the sense [TS]

00:29:15   that this is like one of the smartest [TS]

00:29:16   kids in town and she's always the [TS]

00:29:18   library is Michael okay Charlie for you [TS]

00:29:20   but if I let you in all those other [TS]

00:29:22   hordes of people trying to get into the [TS]

00:29:23   library after hours will have to be let [TS]

00:29:25   in [TS]

00:29:26   no I like 1i let one of you in I'm gonna [TS]

00:29:28   have to let our right fine you got five [TS]

00:29:30   minutes to get him I'm just kidding [TS]

00:29:32   nobody else comes to the ones nobody [TS]

00:29:33   else ever been to this library also have [TS]

00:29:35   to just Charlie I have a friend who's a [TS]

00:29:37   librarian and he easiest the librarian [TS]

00:29:40   is the secret hero of them [TS]

00:29:42   it's the little kid that's always [TS]

00:29:44   reading ivanhoe that's in the library [TS]

00:29:46   all the time yeah we have been talking [TS]

00:29:47   about and how she's the Greek chorus of [TS]

00:29:49   this movie even getting really good shot [TS]

00:29:51   struck what time the library closes what [TS]

00:29:53   did you do should know how much as you [TS]

00:29:55   should [TS]

00:29:56   that that would be Chekhov's library [TS]

00:29:58   hours if you mention the library hours [TS]

00:30:00   it has to come back [TS]

00:30:01   she's got the smart little sister who is [TS]

00:30:03   always commenting on the action that is [TS]

00:30:05   happening in the movie which is I'm [TS]

00:30:07   Ellie cousin Oliver I like to think of a [TS]

00:30:09   complete with less uncle Charlie [TS]

00:30:11   finishes his speech speech ever greatest [TS]

00:30:14   speech ever [TS]

00:30:15   there's a party downstairs and that and [TS]

00:30:19   we're all invited [TS]

00:30:20   yeah we are all invited the Episcopalian [TS]

00:30:23   his ministers there and is often nothing [TS]

00:30:25   for me and my wife thanks I that's very [TS]

00:30:28   forward of the minutes but the rest of [TS]

00:30:30   you should get loaded [TS]

00:30:31   yeah pretend like we're not here ok well [TS]

00:30:34   we won't see um because the clergy don't [TS]

00:30:36   drink [TS]

00:30:37   apparently anyhow two hours it's at this [TS]

00:30:40   point that young Charlie soccer is down [TS]

00:30:42   to chill [TS]

00:30:42   down the stairs prominently displaying [TS]

00:30:45   the ring that she is yes which is when [TS]

00:30:48   Uncle Charlie says well the house and I [TS]

00:30:52   hate to break it did you break it to you [TS]

00:30:54   like yeah just gotta pick up the town [TS]

00:30:55   widow and i'll be out here huh you don't [TS]

00:30:59   want to leave town without a window that [TS]

00:31:00   so yeah like that's gonna drag it was [TS]

00:31:04   careless like milano cookies you may as [TS]

00:31:06   well eat consume all the ones in that [TS]

00:31:08   little layer and they take it out get [TS]

00:31:10   what you see more widows goodness grand [TS]

00:31:12   I mean you can't just one exactly the [TS]

00:31:15   next day Charlie uncle Charlie is [TS]

00:31:17   boarding the train out of town stupidly [TS]

00:31:20   now he invites the kids to come on the [TS]

00:31:22   train to see them off stupidly Charlie [TS]

00:31:24   gets on the train with them [TS]

00:31:26   yeah that this is the one really dumb [TS]

00:31:29   things that the Charlie does movie not [TS]

00:31:33   well I i really think so this is the one [TS]

00:31:35   thing where he can't come on Charlie [TS]

00:31:37   you're you're in full possession of the [TS]

00:31:39   facts and you get on the train with your [TS]

00:31:41   your murderous uncle and so yeah but [TS]

00:31:43   she's protecting the kids the kids [TS]

00:31:45   yeah I guess so and he does the matador [TS]

00:31:47   thing where you like let the kids run [TS]

00:31:49   along and it's like stop and then i'm [TS]

00:31:51   not sure why she protects the kids [TS]

00:31:53   because they're both horrible and really [TS]

00:31:55   hard with anyone missed them know how [TS]

00:31:58   many dads gonna be more concerned with [TS]

00:32:00   his newspaper i'm not sure that the dad [TS]

00:32:02   and mom would even notice they were gone [TS]

00:32:03   for a couple of months while the mother [TS]

00:32:05   certainly would but there's some little [TS]

00:32:07   ones around here is my newspapers so [TS]

00:32:10   much straighter now that they're wait a [TS]

00:32:12   minute the kids are missing my brother [TS]

00:32:13   is gone we left again I cannot stand it [TS]

00:32:17   why don't care it's like I don't do the [TS]

00:32:19   hot children with my brother is gone but [TS]

00:32:23   human Cronin is there ya go whoo crowd [TS]

00:32:27   they're using you know if I i put some [TS]

00:32:29   baking powder in that cake instead of [TS]

00:32:31   soda will be like always it uncle [TS]

00:32:34   Charlie makes it so that the train is [TS]

00:32:35   pulling out and Charlie's still on the [TS]

00:32:37   train because it becomes quite prepared [TS]

00:32:39   he's gonna throw her off the during just [TS]

00:32:41   as soon as it gets up to speed but [TS]

00:32:43   there's a struggle on young Charlie [TS]

00:32:46   manages to grab onto a solid handle and [TS]

00:32:50   uncle Charlie staggers off in fosston [TS]

00:32:52   front of it [TS]

00:32:53   oncoming train badly timed oncoming [TS]

00:32:55   train [TS]

00:32:56   bad luck for uncle Charlie there and [TS]

00:32:58   he's dead [TS]

00:33:00   yep that the entire town turns out to [TS]

00:33:02   mourn him I young Charlie stands outside [TS]

00:33:05   with FBI agent dark square jaw and and [TS]

00:33:09   she says basically yeah he was terrible [TS]

00:33:13   and he's dead now and you're the only [TS]

00:33:15   one who knows how terribly was and and [TS]

00:33:18   that's the end of the no no and that and [TS]

00:33:20   then I can't believe we didn't mention [TS]

00:33:23   at one point before the attempt on her [TS]

00:33:25   life to love directional square just [TS]

00:33:29   announces that he's in love with her [TS]

00:33:31   yeah and it's known her for roughly two [TS]

00:33:33   I don't want to go back to Washington [TS]

00:33:35   you'll see me back but i'm not going to [TS]

00:33:37   be here on business being an FBI agent [TS]

00:33:39   is boring [TS]

00:33:40   I just assume that's par for the course [TS]

00:33:41   because this is in 1943 movie where [TS]

00:33:44   heaven forfend there's a weave is going [TS]

00:33:47   to marry you know exactly just comes out [TS]

00:33:49   of nowhere although i do like the fact [TS]

00:33:51   that he professed his love for her and [TS]

00:33:52   she and she's like well you know never [TS]

00:33:54   nice but I don't know and then but but [TS]

00:33:58   then this is what happens when she is [TS]

00:34:00   there alone and can call the cops he's [TS]

00:34:04   nowhere to be found [TS]

00:34:05   because he's I don't know he's not in [TS]

00:34:07   fresno at that hotel but he said he was [TS]

00:34:09   going to be at he's got a girl in every [TS]

00:34:11   town where he investigates murder yeah [TS]

00:34:13   but it again it's creepy because she's [TS]

00:34:16   theoretically and he again seems like [TS]

00:34:18   he's in his mid to late thirties so well [TS]

00:34:20   that's the standard it was before do it [TS]

00:34:22   existed you know near death at that [TS]

00:34:25   point from some reasonable that the [TS]

00:34:29   black death I think I'm bad humors [TS]

00:34:32   ticket oh we're touching on the thing [TS]

00:34:33   that I that I love the most about this [TS]

00:34:35   movie though as opposed to later [TS]

00:34:37   Hitchcock is that Charlie Teresa Wright [TS]

00:34:40   is really in charge of her own destiny [TS]

00:34:43   and in charge of her own salvation [TS]

00:34:44   whereas later Hitchcock movies that the [TS]

00:34:47   treatment of women is kind of a tough [TS]

00:34:50   ball because but your psychos in your [TS]

00:34:53   birds are basically Grace Kelly didn't [TS]

00:34:55   love me show you must suffer to be angry [TS]

00:34:58   whereas in this one square jaw can't [TS]

00:35:02   save her she has to save herself and she [TS]

00:35:04   she is the agent of her own [TS]

00:35:07   rescue she she she figures out how to [TS]

00:35:10   trap uncle Charlie and and and i really [TS]

00:35:13   like that I think it's unusual among [TS]

00:35:15   Hitchcock pictures particularly among [TS]

00:35:17   the better-known Hitchcock pictures it [TS]

00:35:20   Hitchcock brunettes fare better than [TS]

00:35:21   Hitchcock blondes well absolutely [TS]

00:35:24   yeah we reach the end of the of the [TS]

00:35:26   synopsis what am I i obviously [TS]

00:35:28   interrupted feel about 90 times I to get [TS]

00:35:31   their of so what I want to ask before we [TS]

00:35:35   you know move on to our next movie we [TS]

00:35:36   should talk what we think about this [TS]

00:35:39   movie as a whole we can we can point out [TS]

00:35:40   some of the amusing things about it but [TS]

00:35:42   what did what did you all think of the [TS]

00:35:45   movie all all told Steve what about you [TS]

00:35:48   I'm kind of two minds about it I you [TS]

00:35:50   know the direction was great i really [TS]

00:35:52   like the use of shadow in a lot of [TS]

00:35:54   places since this movie has shadow in [TS]

00:35:56   the title you have shadows in the film [TS]

00:35:58   naturally I thought it was nicely tense [TS]

00:36:01   and you know it ratcheted up pretty much [TS]

00:36:05   throughout which I enjoyed I felt like [TS]

00:36:07   the plot though could have been a lot [TS]

00:36:08   better and I'm i'm going to blame it on [TS]

00:36:10   Thornton Wilder because it was forced to [TS]

00:36:12   read our town twice and twice about it I [TS]

00:36:14   i feel like the film would have been a [TS]

00:36:17   lot more effective if there had been [TS]

00:36:19   some question as to Uncle Charlie's [TS]

00:36:21   guilt and we weren't intimately aware [TS]

00:36:23   early on that he was you know a murder [TS]

00:36:26   he could still be creepy but he doesn't [TS]

00:36:27   necessarily have to be so obviously it [TS]

00:36:29   would be guilty of crimes but not [TS]

00:36:31   horrible murders and material and your [TS]

00:36:34   you kind of hope that he is and then [TS]

00:36:35   later on it would be interesting if [TS]

00:36:38   there was some question as to whether he [TS]

00:36:39   was really responsible for the accidents [TS]

00:36:41   that keep me falling young Charlie but [TS]

00:36:43   again it's made abundantly clear that [TS]

00:36:46   he's the one who you know locks her into [TS]

00:36:48   the garage so I felt like it that could [TS]

00:36:50   have made things a lot more interesting [TS]

00:36:51   i can end that is a byproduct of 1943 [TS]

00:36:54   probably probably it's probably just a [TS]

00:36:57   they didn't want to make it to complex [TS]

00:36:59   since you know the audiences were less [TS]

00:37:01   jaded and it by other problem is is that [TS]

00:37:05   it defies belief for me that anyone in [TS]

00:37:08   town would not become suspicious of a [TS]

00:37:09   guy who routinely launches into [TS]

00:37:11   diatribes about horrible that feel [TS]

00:37:13   greedy women and [TS]

00:37:14   our table and almost you know starts [TS]

00:37:17   starts accusing the father of [TS]

00:37:20   embezzlement loudly at the bank [TS]

00:37:22   yeah as though it's in a joking manner [TS]

00:37:24   and does something similar to the bank [TS]

00:37:27   president so I couldn't help but notice [TS]

00:37:29   gosh she really enjoys miming strangling [TS]

00:37:32   thing is that they were not wrong hands [TS]

00:37:36   I think a lot of that is it is thrown in [TS]

00:37:40   basically too well uncle Charlie he [TS]

00:37:43   tells he has his jokes and and it's also [TS]

00:37:47   told from the perspective of young [TS]

00:37:49   Charlie where where she's seen these [TS]

00:37:51   things through the eyes of a god he's [TS]

00:37:53   really a box during these these are [TS]

00:37:55   jokes these are terrible things [TS]

00:37:57   why can't you people see i also find [TS]

00:38:00   Charlie to be kind of a drip right [TS]

00:38:02   nobody's no no no we're gonna find the [TS]

00:38:06   only dripping this movie is FBI agent x [TS]

00:38:08   squared and then she's a drip in the [TS]

00:38:10   opening so gay which are I think young [TS]

00:38:12   Charlie's first scene is so depressing [TS]

00:38:14   haha [TS]

00:38:15   there's nothing interesting in this town [TS]

00:38:17   with all in a roxy is like you know [TS]

00:38:19   granted stereo typical teenager [TS]

00:38:21   uh-huh well but 18 come on 18 time to [TS]

00:38:24   begin over that note nobody teenager or [TS]

00:38:28   not who is remotely intelligent isn't [TS]

00:38:30   going to rat out Charlie after the first [TS]

00:38:32   or second time he's tried to kill her [TS]

00:38:34   yes I just I find that hard to believe [TS]

00:38:36   as well yeah but nobody would believe [TS]

00:38:38   that's something right like oh yeah sure [TS]

00:38:39   he cracked the state you know cut the [TS]

00:38:41   stairs that why wouldn't a believer and [TS]

00:38:43   why wouldn't she at least making a [TS]

00:38:44   because everybody loves uncle Charlie [TS]

00:38:47   I'm I don't think that's true though yet [TS]

00:38:49   you gave the best speech ever in santa [TS]

00:38:50   rosa concerned that's the whole thing I [TS]

00:38:52   think defies belief me I enjoyed the [TS]

00:38:54   movie let me just say that I i think [TS]

00:38:57   overall it was the the direction and the [TS]

00:38:59   tension were enough to carry it for me [TS]

00:39:01   but you know i would like to see the [TS]

00:39:04   plot be a little deeper and and less [TS]

00:39:07   obviously false to my to my eyes anyway [TS]

00:39:11   well I think we've learned that uncle [TS]

00:39:12   Charlie is the only monster here and he [TS]

00:39:16   wanted to go next [TS]

00:39:17   I just right yeah I i agree with all [TS]

00:39:19   that i think i like the movie I is I [TS]

00:39:22   thought that was a classic example of a [TS]

00:39:25   movie where [TS]

00:39:26   you love all the pieces of this you just [TS]

00:39:29   wish the pieces fit together a little [TS]

00:39:31   bit more cleanly first edit in addition [TS]

00:39:34   to the examples that are even cited when [TS]

00:39:37   the you know [TS]

00:39:38   assistant inspector Fred Mertz like [TS]

00:39:41   takes Charlie sighs and now we're [TS]

00:39:43   closing in on them so you know if he's [TS]

00:39:45   gonna run away heels he's only gonna [TS]

00:39:47   have a few hours to do that so I want to [TS]

00:39:49   tell you about this because you know [TS]

00:39:51   I've just been hit in the head with a [TS]

00:39:53   coconut see and i forgot that I'm [TS]

00:39:55   actually trying to capture him [TS]

00:39:56   I'm about to I'm probably be hit by [TS]

00:39:58   another coconut to remember that I'm [TS]

00:40:00   supposed to be catching so you really [TS]

00:40:02   should go and warn him right away I'm [TS]

00:40:03   this is when I started thinking that oh [TS]

00:40:05   so is this a double-cross is there are [TS]

00:40:08   these not actual investigators there are [TS]

00:40:11   actually the killers or associates of [TS]

00:40:13   the killers and when you turns out that [TS]

00:40:15   wasn't that was just know kind of a [TS]

00:40:18   character doing dumb things that are [TS]

00:40:20   contrary to their own purpose [TS]

00:40:21   you're under oh ok i really wish that [TS]

00:40:23   someone had circled that that page of [TS]

00:40:26   the script and put a big red ? on it and [TS]

00:40:28   handed it back to hitch [TS]

00:40:29   all right Monty what do you think I [TS]

00:40:32   thought it was a gorgeously shot movie [TS]

00:40:33   like Steve said the shadows are great [TS]

00:40:36   there's one scene on the top of the [TS]

00:40:39   staircase where for no real reason [TS]

00:40:42   they're just this amazing cabinet of dr. [TS]

00:40:45   Caligari lighting going on the back wall [TS]

00:40:47   and i also like to I think Charlie's on [TS]

00:40:50   the phone and we're supposed to be given [TS]

00:40:53   the impression that the phone calls have [TS]

00:40:55   been going on for a while it's just fade [TS]

00:40:57   to black [TS]

00:40:57   they back up with Cameron farther back [TS]

00:40:59   and in a completely random spot an angle [TS]

00:41:02   and that happens a couple of time [TS]

00:41:03   whether that was really effective [TS]

00:41:05   I'm not sure whether this was a joke on [TS]

00:41:07   purpose but remember that newspaper [TS]

00:41:10   we're talking about when Charlie says [TS]

00:41:12   going to fold a house heat air makes to [TS]

00:41:15   tears in the paper starts to fold we cut [TS]

00:41:18   away to the kid and then three seconds [TS]

00:41:21   later there's this amazing paper mache [TS]

00:41:23   and again he's good over there [TS]

00:41:28   there are six papers delivered every [TS]

00:41:30   single day they had they so much time so [TS]

00:41:32   much of this material to figure out of [TS]

00:41:34   clever things with he's got the strong [TS]

00:41:36   strangling hands [TS]

00:41:37   they're good at origami the newspaper [TS]

00:41:39   industry was different than money [TS]

00:41:41   I guess simplest most of the sales were [TS]

00:41:43   for manufacturers of pirate hats paper [TS]

00:41:45   houses boats i mostly like the movie i [TS]

00:41:48   do have a lot of concerns about mostly [TS]

00:41:50   just that newspaper scene because he's [TS]

00:41:54   so bad at covering his tracks [TS]

00:41:57   I'm not a baby uncle Charlie well that [TS]

00:41:59   combined with his rants about how [TS]

00:42:01   windows are bad and should die i think [TS]

00:42:03   our to decide if you wanted to keep it [TS]

00:42:05   on the down low but nobody noticed that [TS]

00:42:07   with the newspaper even these idiots [TS]

00:42:09   were like what are you doing hiding [TS]

00:42:11   something [TS]

00:42:12   hey there's a page missing you missing a [TS]

00:42:13   page that newspaper [TS]

00:42:15   hey everybody its gonna flip out early [TS]

00:42:17   had this paper and there's a painting [TS]

00:42:19   this thing folded nice and dad won't [TS]

00:42:21   notice actually there's a really good [TS]

00:42:22   chance that dad was only 26 pages in [TS]

00:42:24   this newspaper [TS]

00:42:25   it's a very small this week McNamara's [TS]

00:42:27   missing well that's across is that that [TS]

00:42:30   he is an uncontrollable maniac right i [TS]

00:42:32   mean he can't he can't stop his urges [TS]

00:42:35   he's going to kill the widows and tear [TS]

00:42:38   newspapers that's what he's going to do [TS]

00:42:40   and you know other widows yeah I liked [TS]

00:42:44   it yeah yeah good David what about you [TS]

00:42:47   I mean I've like this 14 years I I can [TS]

00:42:51   you know i love look visually and love [TS]

00:42:55   you know again the shadows the [TS]

00:42:57   staircases i love the fact that usually [TS]

00:43:01   Hitchcock lets you see characters think [TS]

00:43:03   so you know you see just gotten thinking [TS]

00:43:06   on the staircase for a minute you see [TS]

00:43:08   the you know in the beginning when he [TS]

00:43:10   just walks right past the the guys [TS]

00:43:12   waiting on the street corner for him and [TS]

00:43:15   and you see them think for a minute ago [TS]

00:43:17   is that the guy we should follow let's [TS]

00:43:19   follow and you know so heat so he lets [TS]

00:43:22   you see the characters think for a [TS]

00:43:24   minute [TS]

00:43:24   they may not all be capable of thinking [TS]

00:43:26   but still you know and one things that I [TS]

00:43:31   i noticed this time through who the [TS]

00:43:35   parallels between the Charlie's in the [TS]

00:43:37   beginning the first time we see both of [TS]

00:43:39   them they're lying in bed and they're [TS]

00:43:42   just when someone else is talking to [TS]

00:43:43   them and drawing things out of them and [TS]

00:43:46   as the movie goes on you know you know [TS]

00:43:49   she makes the point of [TS]

00:43:50   oh I I was that's why I was named for [TS]

00:43:53   right and we have something in common [TS]

00:43:55   and I can sense things that you keep [TS]

00:43:57   secret and I know things about you know [TS]

00:43:59   we have this connection and and we know [TS]

00:44:02   through the movie they diverge but in [TS]

00:44:05   the beginning it's very clear that there [TS]

00:44:07   they have this bond so that i think is [TS]

00:44:09   also part of why she doesn't she takes [TS]

00:44:12   so long to come to recesses and more and [TS]

00:44:15   more about you [TS]

00:44:16   i like it like a lot of these folks I i [TS]

00:44:19   really enjoyed the execution of it it's [TS]

00:44:21   a great-looking film I think Joseph [TS]

00:44:22   Cotten entries right both to awesome in [TS]

00:44:25   this movie that is fantastic for [TS]

00:44:26   especially just got a new appears [TS]

00:44:28   between the like charming debonair [TS]

00:44:31   dashing fellow and really scarily [TS]

00:44:33   psychotic guy because there's some good [TS]

00:44:36   scenes you know especially like when she [TS]

00:44:38   digs out the piece of newspaper from his [TS]

00:44:41   jacket and we get the you know trademark [TS]

00:44:43   Hitchcock POV seymour really you know [TS]

00:44:45   where the camera and we're looking at [TS]

00:44:46   him and you see this entire face sort of [TS]

00:44:47   collapse and you get angry and starts [TS]

00:44:49   yelling you know and ask the audience [TS]

00:44:51   essentially at that point is where the [TS]

00:44:52   stand-in he does such a good job of [TS]

00:44:54   going back and forth just [TS]

00:44:55   instantaneously between being terrifying [TS]

00:44:58   and supercharged like maybe a little [TS]

00:45:00   sleet charming but like you know [TS]

00:45:02   friendly and jovial and so II and even [TS]

00:45:07   the other characters i think if you even [TS]

00:45:08   if they don't seem to quite fit and they [TS]

00:45:10   are a little ridiculous at times I still [TS]

00:45:12   enjoy most of them i really like a [TS]

00:45:15   hundred traverse as the father just [TS]

00:45:18   because he's got a very matter-of-fact [TS]

00:45:19   way of talking about think I just enjoy [TS]

00:45:21   i really enjoy his inhuman Cronin's [TS]

00:45:23   discussions of the murder it's just [TS]

00:45:26   they're just so delightfully charming [TS]

00:45:27   because it is this whole idea of this is [TS]

00:45:29   it's a boring little town nothing ever [TS]

00:45:32   happens here you know and and all the [TS]

00:45:34   people are nice and and picturesque in [TS]

00:45:36   the the family surveys come around [TS]

00:45:38   because they want the typical American [TS]

00:45:39   family and yet always talking about [TS]

00:45:41   murder and terrible things all the time [TS]

00:45:43   and I think it's just you know it's a [TS]

00:45:45   great commentary i love it [TS]

00:45:47   all right fill up i guess i need to fill [TS]

00:45:49   in the blanks here and say I liked it I [TS]

00:45:51   liked some of the comments here I I sort [TS]

00:45:55   of see this and think it could have been [TS]

00:45:57   even better if and maybe you know it was [TS]

00:45:59   just of the time and it was going to be [TS]

00:46:01   what it was going to be but I I feel [TS]

00:46:03   like your moments where it could have [TS]

00:46:04   even better at doing the things that did [TS]

00:46:06   well and yeah the mom really annoyed be [TS]

00:46:08   and i found the FB hi to be amusingly [TS]

00:46:12   incompetent especially when you throw in [TS]

00:46:14   the declaration of love that happens [TS]

00:46:15   later in the film i love you Charlie [TS]

00:46:16   that was just a few terrible bizarre i [TS]

00:46:19   was like falling in love with all of my [TS]

00:46:21   cut [TS]

00:46:22   but this is this film is about the leads [TS]

00:46:24   and they're great [TS]

00:46:25   so that's all I think Phil what you [TS]

00:46:26   bring it home well as I said I I laid my [TS]

00:46:29   cards on the table early i think this is [TS]

00:46:31   Hitchcock's best movie i love the the [TS]

00:46:34   small-town elements of it and as as I [TS]

00:46:37   think even this film's harshest critics [TS]

00:46:39   will point out i think Joseph Cotten and [TS]

00:46:41   and uh Teresa Wright do a do a fantastic [TS]

00:46:45   job playing off each other in it it [TS]

00:46:49   really is a fantastic movie i think in [TS]

00:46:52   many respects and I I i do love how the [TS]

00:46:54   tension builds throughout I got a couple [TS]

00:46:57   of favorite lines i gotta throw out [TS]

00:46:58   there before we move on I like the line [TS]

00:47:00   where and is hopping on the sidewalk and [TS]

00:47:02   she says proudly to the detective I [TS]

00:47:04   brought my mother's back three times in [TS]

00:47:06   his response is not bad [TS]

00:47:08   step on a crack break your mother's back [TS]

00:47:10   yep i just really like it's just your [TS]

00:47:12   father's way of relaxing for the [TS]

00:47:14   discussion about murder [TS]

00:47:16   yeah the other line i wanted to mention [TS]

00:47:18   was at the end where they're discussing [TS]

00:47:20   what transpired the detective and young [TS]

00:47:22   Charlie and the did Dirk square job [TS]

00:47:25   states that the world seems to go crazy [TS]

00:47:27   every now and then like your uncle [TS]

00:47:29   Charlie fact real tactful Graham realtek [TS]

00:47:33   one line that entertained me not for the [TS]

00:47:36   shallow reason you think was wine for [TS]

00:47:39   dinner sounds so gay [TS]

00:47:41   no it's not because of that just because [TS]

00:47:44   what else are you drinking wine yeah [TS]

00:47:46   that was that was that was that [TS]

00:47:48   yes did not not just the the use of [TS]

00:47:50   words then and now but for the idea of [TS]

00:47:53   like normally we just eat cardboard and [TS]

00:47:56   drink tap water we drink our wine [TS]

00:47:58   starting at eleven o'clock in the [TS]

00:48:00   morning i feel it's true for most of the [TS]

00:48:02   members of this family [TS]

00:48:03   I'm not talking about murder i'm talking [TS]

00:48:04   about me killing her and her giving me [TS]

00:48:06   the incomparable also sponsored this [TS]

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00:49:52   speaking a murder [TS]

00:49:53   let's talk about road adapted by human [TS]

00:49:56   crewman yeah there's your connection [TS]

00:49:58   take the plan adapted for the screen for [TS]

00:50:02   his good friend out there is a [TS]

00:50:03   connection between these two [TS]

00:50:05   yes interesting yes so people who were [TS]

00:50:07   in it's a wonderful less automatic [TS]

00:50:08   connection to him crown and who is pitch [TS]

00:50:12   cocks music apparently there's not to be [TS]

00:50:16   much plot recap here because there's no [TS]

00:50:18   plot this is the this is a the bottle [TS]

00:50:21   episode of Hitchcock movies yes [TS]

00:50:23   you want to spend one of two one of two [TS]

00:50:25   lifeboat being the iphone is the other [TS]

00:50:28   one it's a Colombo that's exactly what i [TS]

00:50:30   thought this is sunshine colombo yeah he [TS]

00:50:32   even walks out and then comes back in [TS]

00:50:35   yeah yeah yeah she's I hate to bother [TS]

00:50:38   you but one watching one more thing I [TS]

00:50:41   forgot to mention I was 11 my life that [TS]

00:50:45   i forgot to mention that you've [TS]

00:50:46   misinterpreted my lectures about the [TS]

00:50:48   inhumanity of man and heavy right to [TS]

00:50:50   kill admit I didn't really mean it like [TS]

00:50:52   that i feel really bad i hate to but I [TS]

00:50:55   need to check the trunk now I got used [TS]

00:50:56   to have a chest just like this it could [TS]

00:50:59   I look inside this chest because it [TS]

00:51:01   would be shuttered members for me as a [TS]

00:51:03   child I should play with this catch [TS]

00:51:06   I know mrs. never comes to these kind of [TS]

00:51:09   party i know i said everybody should be [TS]

00:51:10   murdered but I didn't mean everybody [TS]

00:51:12   should be murdered [TS]

00:51:13   I don't feel like I have to recap it [TS]

00:51:16   yeah we're done [TS]

00:51:17   so it's a baby basically Brandon and [TS]

00:51:20   Phillip are our two are are are a gay [TS]

00:51:24   couple good friends good friends so they [TS]

00:51:27   are an accessory little bit this is I [TS]

00:51:29   love em it's never discussed but it's [TS]

00:51:31   just they're having students some [TS]

00:51:32   reading on this movie and it talks about [TS]

00:51:34   well the homosexual subtext I scraped [TS]

00:51:36   out some subjects [TS]

00:51:38   oh no it is not i gotta be honest I did [TS]

00:51:42   not I did not get that initially in fact [TS]

00:51:45   the only reason the only because they're [TS]

00:51:46   fresh out of college they could very [TS]

00:51:48   easily be respect and just bury and is [TS]

00:51:51   talking about how he previously dated [TS]

00:51:52   Janet the oh oh yeah yeah so anyway [TS]

00:51:57   they're they're very they're a couple [TS]

00:51:58   and they have this apartment in there [TS]

00:52:00   they've planned to some amazing apart [TS]

00:52:02   and when we first see them they are [TS]

00:52:03   strangling somebody to death [TS]

00:52:05   this is the thing if you're complaining [TS]

00:52:07   about shadow of a doubt is boy they [TS]

00:52:09   really didn't leave much in the way of [TS]

00:52:10   doubt as to what their uncle Charlie's [TS]

00:52:12   but they don't have this will know this [TS]

00:52:15   because this is colombo that's the whole [TS]

00:52:17   point of this movie that opening shot [TS]

00:52:18   right as soon as the soon as the credits [TS]

00:52:21   and they are strengthening their 330 [TS]

00:52:23   incidentally david i-i love how idyllic [TS]

00:52:26   the music is during the opening credits [TS]

00:52:28   like the opening credits music yes it [TS]

00:52:30   sounds like this is going to be a lovely [TS]

00:52:31   piano Rob through mr. shadow of a doubt [TS]

00:52:35   to but it's getting late [TS]

00:52:36   he's here because that gigantic dramatic [TS]

00:52:39   title card that says rope in the crazy [TS]

00:52:41   fog comes up and then this string swell [TS]

00:52:43   and it's sort of a lovely lilt no it [TS]

00:52:46   doesn't go dark until we pan into you [TS]

00:52:48   know the apartment essentially it's like [TS]

00:52:50   although the curtains are drawn that's a [TS]

00:52:51   little we all god somebody's being [TS]

00:52:53   strangled right now has somehow [TS]

00:52:55   streaming as he's being strangled which [TS]

00:52:57   is a bit odd I thought yeah [TS]

00:52:59   yes so so the the conceited this movie [TS]

00:53:02   is that the entire film other than the [TS]

00:53:05   opening shot where there's a there's a [TS]

00:53:06   cut if robert zemeckis had been directed [TS]

00:53:09   miss it would have gone through that [TS]

00:53:10   window and through those curtains and [TS]

00:53:12   all the way in but Hitchcock just cuts [TS]

00:53:14   from me from the outside to the inside [TS]

00:53:16   but we spend the entire time in this [TS]

00:53:19   apartment the entire film is there it is [TS]

00:53:21   the bottle episode but but not just the [TS]

00:53:24   location but the fact that these are [TS]

00:53:26   continuous takes each goes for about 10 [TS]

00:53:28   minutes and then we we linger for a [TS]

00:53:30   moment to ponder the back of somebody's [TS]

00:53:32   can assume into somebody's jacket yeah [TS]

00:53:34   there are several cuts though which is [TS]

00:53:36   we always strange me because I think [TS]

00:53:38   they go unnoticed refuse because it you [TS]

00:53:40   kind of went out but there are several [TS]

00:53:41   just like jump cuts yet are slow [TS]

00:53:44   charging but but purposeful in the [TS]

00:53:46   replacement like i said i think those [TS]

00:53:48   actually probably are better than the [TS]

00:53:49   zoom into the jacket shot yeah I don't [TS]

00:53:51   like a turd in a punch but the gimmick [TS]

00:53:53   cuts are super distracting to me because [TS]

00:53:55   I spent the whole movie watching for [TS]

00:53:57   them the jump cuts are because they had [TS]

00:53:59   to physically change the real story is [TS]

00:54:01   in the projectors so he he said I don't [TS]

00:54:03   need to cover those they have to change [TS]

00:54:05   them anyway so Brandt Brandon Phillips I [TS]

00:54:08   have committed what they what they hope [TS]

00:54:10   is the perfect murder for certain values [TS]

00:54:13   of murderers as as John doll who plays [TS]

00:54:15   Brandon says over and over and we pause [TS]

00:54:19   here and examine how this could possibly [TS]

00:54:21   be the perfect murder when they have [TS]

00:54:23   absolutely no plan other than kill the [TS]

00:54:25   guy [TS]

00:54:26   well you take advantage of the country [TS]

00:54:27   and cook in Connecticut and then you [TS]

00:54:29   just dump his body in the lake and never [TS]

00:54:31   know I i think their arguments they have [TS]

00:54:33   no motive that they have they have no [TS]

00:54:35   motive also also they've got they've [TS]

00:54:37   phoned from the done a fake phone call [TS]

00:54:39   from the city to say that [TS]

00:54:41   hi I'm David I'm definitely alive and [TS]

00:54:43   i'll definitely see you three hours [TS]

00:54:45   later went to disguise where they are i [TS]

00:54:47   think there's a lot of this plot we [TS]

00:54:48   haven't we [TS]

00:54:49   get the sea but I think the best thing [TS]

00:54:51   would be completely completely [TS]

00:54:52   appropriate this guy's arrogance is just [TS]

00:54:54   that it's perfect is that I've seen I've [TS]

00:54:56   looked small angles and only Son my [TS]

00:54:58   genius could ya that's what happened [TS]

00:55:00   with Leopold and Loeb is there yeah they [TS]

00:55:02   had the perfect murder and it fell apart [TS]

00:55:04   immediately even for that if if even if [TS]

00:55:08   it had the initial part had worked out [TS]

00:55:10   it's so unbelievably poor of a plan [TS]

00:55:12   there's no way they could possibly have [TS]

00:55:14   gotten away with it it's absurd yeah [TS]

00:55:15   they're basically Batman villains one of [TS]

00:55:17   the closest friends GI who are we going [TS]

00:55:19   to question they go out of their way to [TS]

00:55:21   invite people to the scene of the crime [TS]

00:55:22   people that are looking for the person [TS]

00:55:25   who's dead [TS]

00:55:26   that's for arrogance that's the showing [TS]

00:55:28   off this is the crux of the movie that's [TS]

00:55:30   not a mistake that is here here it was a [TS]

00:55:33   mistake i said it was like being a [TS]

00:55:34   Batman villain take a look at the kind [TS]

00:55:35   of people were dealing with here that [TS]

00:55:37   it's not enough that they would just [TS]

00:55:38   simply kill somebody for stored they [TS]

00:55:40   would also want to make sure that if [TS]

00:55:42   that they know that [TS]

00:55:43   oh my god we actually had the body out [TS]

00:55:45   in the middle of the room and nobody [TS]

00:55:47   knew it aren't we brilliant yes this [TS]

00:55:49   this is an rands dead poets society [TS]

00:55:51   let's put let's put candles on it let [TS]

00:55:54   surface lid on it let's invite the [TS]

00:55:57   parents to the party give the dad the [TS]

00:56:01   murder weapon exactly arguing [TS]

00:56:03   surprisingly loud voice about the murder [TS]

00:56:05   in full view day uh they shove poor poor [TS]

00:56:10   David's body into a trunk and then [TS]

00:56:12   decide hey we're gonna have a dinner [TS]

00:56:14   party let's serve dinner on the trunk [TS]

00:56:15   and as jason says they put the [TS]

00:56:17   candelabras up there and they've invited [TS]

00:56:20   David's father and what turns out to be [TS]

00:56:23   his Dowager aunt I guess they've invited [TS]

00:56:26   David's girlfriend invited the former [TS]

00:56:29   boyfriend of David's girlfriend and most [TS]

00:56:32   importantly they've invited the beloved [TS]

00:56:34   a headmaster from their prep school who [TS]

00:56:37   is played by Jimmy Stewart to attend the [TS]

00:56:40   party as well and Jimmy's that was their [TS]

00:56:44   first mistake never bring Jimmy story [TS]

00:56:46   ya ever bring Jimmy Stewart to any party [TS]

00:56:49   well did you love David because you know [TS]

00:56:51   I understand you have to kill him that [TS]

00:56:53   haha call back to earlier that's his [TS]

00:56:57   deep cut I spent much of the movie [TS]

00:56:58   confusing John doll for [TS]

00:57:00   young Jimmy Stewart I i think the it's [TS]

00:57:03   interesting the day and they talk about [TS]

00:57:04   him as a potential co-conspirator and [TS]

00:57:07   then right at but uh but uh who's the I [TS]

00:57:11   who's the idea man is that is that [TS]

00:57:13   Brandon Brandon is bringing yeah [TS]

00:57:15   Brandon's the idea man Brandon's like I [TS]

00:57:17   he wouldn't have the guts to pull it off [TS]

00:57:19   you know we he believes in it from an [TS]

00:57:22   idea standpoint but not he couldn't [TS]

00:57:24   actually do it but i like that they have [TS]

00:57:26   this fantasy that that Jimmy Stewart is [TS]

00:57:29   one of them or almost one of them and [TS]

00:57:32   they invite him sort of glee of like oh [TS]

00:57:35   he gets to be part of this thing the [TS]

00:57:37   idea sort of germinated in long [TS]

00:57:38   discussions they had with him and he was [TS]

00:57:40   there housemaster right so now that [TS]

00:57:42   they're his ideas that they're putting [TS]

00:57:44   into practice here I did they get sad [TS]

00:57:46   that poor Farley Granger is always [TS]

00:57:47   getting talked into murdering people [TS]

00:57:48   actually know you know once is an [TS]

00:57:52   accident by strangers on the train yes [TS]

00:57:58   that's but that's the other genius of [TS]

00:58:00   love just how this is constructed where [TS]

00:58:01   you feel as though it's not unjust [TS]

00:58:04   enough for this guy to plot a murder [TS]

00:58:06   committed murder just for fun and then [TS]

00:58:08   again have the dinner party with the [TS]

00:58:10   body of the open [TS]

00:58:11   he also is getting this big rise out of [TS]

00:58:13   i have basically talked and browbeat [TS]

00:58:15   this person into being my accomplice in [TS]

00:58:17   this murder even though he has apps he [TS]

00:58:19   does not share my belief system that [TS]

00:58:21   people should die for my amusement [TS]

00:58:23   I mean there's there's a little bit of a [TS]

00:58:24   corollary between him and uncle Charlie [TS]

00:58:27   I think from shadow of a doubt like both [TS]

00:58:28   of whom kind of seem to believe that [TS]

00:58:29   they are above above morals no I don't [TS]

00:58:33   know I i feel as though you're Charlie's [TS]

00:58:35   just seriously bent whereas this person [TS]

00:58:38   is just such as as a psychopathic [TS]

00:58:40   behavior and so yeah he's really [TS]

00:58:41   grounded [TS]

00:58:42   well he's on his way he's younger me as [TS]

00:58:45   if there's a there's a difference [TS]

00:58:46   between like the deserts of seeing the [TS]

00:58:48   entire world is pray [TS]

00:58:50   meaning that i'm a killing stalking [TS]

00:58:52   beast that kills furfrou but if if [TS]

00:58:54   you've got something that costs eighty [TS]

00:58:56   dollars and I need that a dar think [TS]

00:58:57   you're dead because that's what's power [TS]

00:58:59   value human life it's another thing to [TS]

00:59:01   simply say im bored I think I'll kill [TS]

00:59:03   that person because the internet was [TS]

00:59:04   attended the whole experiment the whole [TS]

00:59:06   like rationale given by jimmy stewart is [TS]

00:59:08   are talking about murder is justifiable [TS]

00:59:10   way of what you want you want to get [TS]

00:59:11   into the restaurant you [TS]

00:59:13   get theater tickets like I think that [TS]

00:59:14   the there is a overriding philosophy [TS]

00:59:17   thereof you know it feels like [TS]

00:59:18   everybody's stupid should be he should [TS]

00:59:20   be able to kill anybody stupid that he [TS]

00:59:21   wants to like he may not be at uncle [TS]

00:59:23   Charlie levels yet of thinking the whole [TS]

00:59:25   world's a joke but like if he kept going [TS]

00:59:27   for a while he would definitely end up [TS]

00:59:29   there [TS]

00:59:29   well I mean that's part of why he's [TS]

00:59:31   invited the the former boyfriend of the [TS]

00:59:34   girl friend is like well if we get David [TS]

00:59:35   out of the way they're actually a better [TS]

00:59:37   couple you know we'll we'll shove them [TS]

00:59:39   back together and it's it's all social [TS]

00:59:42   engineering [TS]

00:59:43   although I mean not there anything that [TS]

00:59:44   he cares about right like he doesn't [TS]

00:59:46   actually care about the happiness of [TS]

00:59:47   either of those people right you just [TS]

00:59:49   want to be manipulative exactly i think [TS]

00:59:51   that might have been part of his plan [TS]

00:59:52   though to cover for what why isn't David [TS]

00:59:54   hero well he must have known that I was [TS]

00:59:56   gonna be here so we just decided not to [TS]

00:59:58   come that too or that you did [TS]

00:59:58   come that too or that you did [TS]

01:00:00   invite him because you just want to [TS]

01:00:01   manipulate us into like being feeling [TS]

01:00:03   awkward about the fact that we used to [TS]

01:00:05   be in a relationship [TS]

01:00:06   my favorite thing in this is probably [TS]

01:00:08   the scene where and you know this [TS]

01:00:11   happens at several points where the [TS]

01:00:12   cameras view is not where the action is [TS]

01:00:15   yeah or at least not when attacking not [TS]

01:00:18   where the talking is and it is an animal [TS]

01:00:20   and the bettin it happened several times [TS]

01:00:21   the best one is as we very slowly watch [TS]

01:00:25   the housekeeper's still cleaning up the [TS]

01:00:29   stronger because she's going to take all [TS]

01:00:30   the stuff off of the trunk and then open [TS]

01:00:32   the trunk and put all the books in the [TS]

01:00:34   trunk with thereby revealing the dead [TS]

01:00:36   body one of the best suspense moments i [TS]

01:00:38   think in any Hitchcock it's just amazing [TS]

01:00:40   and there's no music and it's just a [TS]

01:00:42   conversation and she walks all the way [TS]

01:00:44   down the hall she's so smitten kitchen [TS]

01:00:47   walks all the way better walks all the [TS]

01:00:48   way down the hall again you know it's [TS]

01:00:50   just it's enjoyed every time she gets a [TS]

01:00:52   little closer your breath catches in [TS]

01:00:53   this conversation happening and you have [TS]

01:00:55   at several points in this film this [TS]

01:00:57   overlapped conversation sorry Robert [TS]

01:00:58   Altman asked in bits and it's like the [TS]

01:01:01   point is not it's a dinner party let [TS]

01:01:02   people are having different [TS]

01:01:04   conversations at different places and [TS]

01:01:06   that's all the hubbub is happening while [TS]

01:01:07   we very slowly watch and that is just [TS]

01:01:09   the realization it starts and it just [TS]

01:01:12   keeps getting worse and worse that she [TS]

01:01:13   is going to open that trunk and it's [TS]

01:01:16   amazing and for people who aren't [TS]

01:01:18   familiar with the scene it's not as [TS]

01:01:19   though all they're just gonna have to [TS]

01:01:20   like lift up the truck it's no it's [TS]

01:01:22   completely set there's a tablecloth on [TS]

01:01:24   it like empty their use plates on their [TS]

01:01:26   candelabra on top of it every single [TS]

01:01:28   layer it's like okay not going to blow [TS]

01:01:30   out the candle state the candelabra way [TS]

01:01:32   walk walk walk walk walk walk away walk [TS]

01:01:34   back and only take all the guys got this [TS]

01:01:37   train I'd take all these empty plates [TS]

01:01:38   walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk [TS]

01:01:40   walk away it yet all the while you are [TS]

01:01:43   rushing to the conclusion so that you [TS]

01:01:45   get there way before she is physically [TS]

01:01:47   able to get to that point and that [TS]

01:01:49   creates some amazing suspense it is a [TS]

01:01:51   fantastic see and the shot ends with the [TS]

01:01:54   shadow of somebody suddenly walking in [TS]

01:01:56   which is really impressive when you [TS]

01:01:58   realize they needed to do special [TS]

01:01:59   lighting just actually cast a shadow on [TS]

01:02:01   the ground shot that got me even before [TS]

01:02:03   that though was actually tweeted up [TS]

01:02:06   because i was just i just love this shot [TS]

01:02:07   so much watching us rewatching in the [TS]

01:02:09   afternoon and those watchin on the iPad [TS]

01:02:12   and just the shot where ever known ever [TS]

01:02:14   since the dinner party's in full swing [TS]

01:02:16   nobody has any suspicion anything's [TS]

01:02:18   going on and then there's a conversation [TS]

01:02:20   that there's a casual shot of jimmy [TS]

01:02:22   stewart and then he just holds on that [TS]

01:02:25   shot for I had time it out more than 20 [TS]

01:02:28   seconds just count yourself right now [TS]

01:02:30   not right now but like think about how [TS]

01:02:33   long 20 seconds really is and imagine [TS]

01:02:35   that it's just that the cameras not [TS]

01:02:37   pulling in it's just a static shot of [TS]

01:02:38   him listening to these two murderers [TS]

01:02:40   talk idly and you sense that there's [TS]

01:02:43   this little thing happening in the back [TS]

01:02:45   of Jimmy stores eyes that's I don't know [TS]

01:02:47   what's wrong but something's very wrong [TS]

01:02:49   here and that's the first things i see a [TS]

01:02:52   thread dangling at the end of this cable [TS]

01:02:53   knit sweater and keep pulling start [TS]

01:02:55   pulling on that thread until this whole [TS]

01:02:57   thing comes apart if I can tip my hand [TS]

01:02:59   here [TS]

01:03:00   the reason i picked this movie is [TS]

01:03:02   because i think it's indicative of [TS]

01:03:05   Hitchcock's approach to a suspense movie [TS]

01:03:07   and I'm going to paraphrase a quote that [TS]

01:03:11   he once said where it basically a good [TS]

01:03:14   suspense movie is the audience knows [TS]

01:03:16   that there's a bomb and that it's gonna [TS]

01:03:19   go off at one o'clock and no one no one [TS]

01:03:22   on the screen knows that it's gonna go [TS]

01:03:24   off at one o'clock and they're talking [TS]

01:03:25   about all these trivial matters and all [TS]

01:03:28   this the stupidity and the audience is [TS]

01:03:30   sitting there going to come are doled [TS]

01:03:32   oh and that and that is basically what [TS]

01:03:36   he doesn't rope and i followed the way I [TS]

01:03:39   heard it and I was gonna say this too is [TS]

01:03:41   that you know if if you show two guys [TS]

01:03:43   having a conversation at the table and [TS]

01:03:45   it's the most boring thing in the world [TS]

01:03:47   and after 10 minutes the table blows up [TS]

01:03:49   you've got a quick shock and all it blew [TS]

01:03:52   up [TS]

01:03:53   but if you start the shot from under the [TS]

01:03:54   table and you see the bomb and then you [TS]

01:03:57   come up you the exact same boring [TS]

01:03:59   conversation but the whole time you like [TS]

01:04:01   get out of the way it's gonna blow yeah [TS]

01:04:04   you know in the most boring thing is is [TS]

01:04:07   exciting of the opening shot of [TS]

01:04:10   touch of evil or some movie yeah exactly [TS]

01:04:12   what the bomb in the car i was thinking [TS]

01:04:14   of inglourious basterds yeah also be out [TS]

01:04:16   with onion floor [TS]

01:04:18   yeah like there's this long conversation [TS]

01:04:19   that doesn't go anywhere but oh god what [TS]

01:04:22   if you look over there [TS]

01:04:23   similar i think when i when i watch this [TS]

01:04:25   for a film class at some point you talk [TS]

01:04:27   about the difference between surprise [TS]

01:04:28   and suspense we're just surprised as you [TS]

01:04:29   know everybody on the screen you know [TS]

01:04:31   it's the jump scaring in a horror movie [TS]

01:04:33   where the killer jumps out with a knife [TS]

01:04:34   right and the people on the screen are [TS]

01:04:36   surprised and you are also surprised the [TS]

01:04:38   audience but now like Phillip saying you [TS]

01:04:40   and the audience have been let in on the [TS]

01:04:42   secret you know something that the [TS]

01:04:43   characters don't and that's where the [TS]

01:04:44   tension starts to exist and that is why [TS]

01:04:47   he's so good at yeah i think because a [TS]

01:04:49   psycho and birds Hitchcock wrongly gets [TS]

01:04:53   painted with the the more movie brush [TS]

01:04:55   and he doesn't do horror movies he does [TS]

01:04:57   he does suspense movies and and really [TS]

01:04:59   does spine movies too [TS]

01:05:01   yeah where where where it's it's tension [TS]

01:05:04   and you know what's gonna happen but the [TS]

01:05:07   characters don't know what's gonna [TS]

01:05:09   happen and and how in the hell are they [TS]

01:05:11   gonna get out of this and that's that [TS]

01:05:12   that that's what makes this movie's [TS]

01:05:14   interesting what do we never see do we [TS]

01:05:17   ever see Jimmy Stewart come in [TS]

01:05:20   no he just appears just appears he's [TS]

01:05:23   coming down the hall when we are [TS]

01:05:24   distract we're distracted elsewhere he's [TS]

01:05:26   been talked about i really like that and [TS]

01:05:28   then and then he suddenly they're not [TS]

01:05:30   all that works so effectively probably [TS]

01:05:32   know season because we know because we [TS]

01:05:35   know that voice and we know that person [TS]

01:05:37   i think that i think that's what makes [TS]

01:05:38   that work but it's great because he's [TS]

01:05:40   the one they've been kind of waiting to [TS]

01:05:41   see and it's also the hammer dropping of [TS]

01:05:43   like here's the complication these other [TS]

01:05:45   people are probably not a problem [TS]

01:05:47   this guy is going to be a problem right [TS]

01:05:49   and they start to get John doll gets [TS]

01:05:51   nervous he freaks out right Brandon [TS]

01:05:52   freaks out like you he starts stuttering [TS]

01:05:54   and Jimmy Stewart notices that Yunis [TS]

01:05:56   stuttering yeah very excited [TS]

01:05:59   yeah I was mad about that line he says [TS]

01:06:01   you always did stutter when you were [TS]

01:06:02   excited if anyone in the world doesn't [TS]

01:06:04   get to make fun of someone stuttering [TS]

01:06:05   it's Jimmy school I just love that it's [TS]

01:06:10   almost full 20 minutes before even [TS]

01:06:12   appear yeah and we keep hearing about [TS]

01:06:14   him and he's the important guests and [TS]

01:06:16   just like Colombo yeah i like to put in [TS]

01:06:19   a good word both for John doll hero [TS]

01:06:22   unfortunate didn't really go on to my [TS]

01:06:23   chels but he's really likes marmol [TS]

01:06:27   Ygritte in this role so psychopath again [TS]

01:06:30   like just disturbed and also i want to [TS]

01:06:33   put in a really good word for drunk [TS]

01:06:35   Farley Granger who is my favorite part [TS]

01:06:37   was nothing just gets increasingly drunk [TS]

01:06:41   as the camera pans away from it goes [TS]

01:06:43   back it was just increasingly [TS]

01:06:44   nonsensical got a John Doe gave me a [TS]

01:06:47   Cumberbatch kind of ya feel that very [TS]

01:06:51   similar kind of kind of feeling there I [TS]

01:06:53   liked him a lot of a reptilian yeah [TS]

01:06:55   and-and-and yet drunk Phillips trunk [TS]

01:06:58   Phillip is awesome and so is drunk [TS]

01:07:00   fairly green happened what increasingly [TS]

01:07:05   out of control and you know and again [TS]

01:07:08   you don't want to take Brandon side but [TS]

01:07:09   you have that moment where you're like I [TS]

01:07:11   love ya [TS]

01:07:12   we want to just pop that's funny but you [TS]

01:07:15   do take you to take brand is I'd almost [TS]

01:07:17   almost up until the point where Jimmy [TS]

01:07:19   Stewart returns and does colombo yeah [TS]

01:07:22   because you're you're wondering how [TS]

01:07:24   these guys gonna get caught and the [TS]

01:07:25   tension there is not I hope somebody [TS]

01:07:27   figures what out what's going on it's [TS]

01:07:29   actually doesn't yeah everything is [TS]

01:07:31   alright and then and then Jimmy Stewart [TS]

01:07:34   turns up again and brandon has a gun and [TS]

01:07:36   you realize that he's in real danger and [TS]

01:07:38   then you're on Stuart side is very much [TS]

01:07:40   like a Colombo also in that you do sort [TS]

01:07:44   of want to root for the killer you want [TS]

01:07:46   him to get away with it because you know [TS]

01:07:47   Colombo is so good and you know he's not [TS]

01:07:49   gonna get away [TS]

01:07:50   yeah okay well yes and no I it it did [TS]

01:07:53   rip it right me of colombo for almost [TS]

01:07:55   exactly that reason but the thing is [TS]

01:07:56   something it's not about finding out who [TS]

01:07:58   the killer is or if you're gonna come to [TS]

01:08:00   justice because you kind of know that [TS]

01:08:02   they're going to get caught it really is [TS]

01:08:04   what are we going to learn about this [TS]

01:08:05   killer over the course of this these [TS]

01:08:09   events especially as the pressure mounts [TS]

01:08:11   and mounts and mounts how are they going [TS]

01:08:13   to react to it are they going to [TS]

01:08:15   increase sometimes some of the Colombo's [TS]

01:08:17   they just increasingly are reason they [TS]

01:08:19   know that ok I'm on borrowed time but i [TS]

01:08:21   can do a few things to maybe by myself [TS]

01:08:24   more time but I know this isn't it is [TS]

01:08:25   inevitable their self-delusion sometimes [TS]

01:08:28   and sometimes i'm going to double down [TS]

01:08:29   on this I but watching watching Philip [TS]

01:08:33   watching Farley Granger just unspool is [TS]

01:08:35   exact [TS]

01:08:36   the reason why you love this but that [TS]

01:08:38   there's something there's so many [TS]

01:08:39   there's so many shots there's so many [TS]

01:08:41   shots you just love about this and some [TS]

01:08:43   of them were just looks so cheeseball if [TS]

01:08:45   they were not being done by a master how [TS]

01:08:48   about he's getting it will have Farley [TS]

01:08:50   Granger playing piano just sort of like [TS]

01:08:52   to bleed off some of the tension and [TS]

01:08:54   look casual and Jimmy Stewart just sort [TS]

01:08:56   of Saunders off and say oh you're such a [TS]

01:08:58   good piano player can't believe that I [TS]

01:09:00   didn't think that we would have a [TS]

01:09:01   metronome and he starts ticking [TS]

01:09:03   yeah which is super distracting if [TS]

01:09:06   you're trying to play piano intro page [TS]

01:09:08   of dialogue something not just the [TS]

01:09:10   slider to get go faster and faster and [TS]

01:09:13   faster and using that Granger is not [TS]

01:09:17   playing faster but he's making more [TS]

01:09:19   mistakes now I like oh you just want to [TS]

01:09:21   rewind and play that back because oh [TS]

01:09:24   good heavens that is brilliant the great [TS]

01:09:26   bit there is when it seems like Jimmy [TS]

01:09:28   Stewart is getting off track and and [TS]

01:09:30   Phillip starts to laugh and the tempo [TS]

01:09:32   slows down and it starts you know [TS]

01:09:34   becoming less and less dissonant and [TS]

01:09:36   then Rupert kind of gets a little closer [TS]

01:09:39   to the truth again and it speeds up [TS]

01:09:40   again and and the whole thing starts a [TS]

01:09:42   new it's just it's a fantastic scene [TS]

01:09:44   when just the choreography of this i [TS]

01:09:47   mean it it was based on stage play and [TS]

01:09:49   it has the feel of a play [TS]

01:09:51   yes film which a lot of movies that are [TS]

01:09:53   adapted darkness [TS]

01:09:54   it is very staging but the thing I love [TS]

01:09:57   about it is just just the sheer [TS]

01:09:58   choreography that had to go into it not [TS]

01:10:00   just that it was the continuous takes [TS]

01:10:03   but you know the walls and the furniture [TS]

01:10:05   sliding in and out having to put the [TS]

01:10:07   furniture back and have the camera one [TS]

01:10:09   really huge cameras of the time yeah [TS]

01:10:12   related on the scenery that just the [TS]

01:10:14   Cyclorama behind it it's not a painting [TS]

01:10:17   you know you've got lights coming on in [TS]

01:10:19   buildings and still only other families [TS]

01:10:21   and our got spun glass clouds that are [TS]

01:10:24   moving through the whole thing and [TS]

01:10:27   apparently he reshot the second half of [TS]

01:10:28   the movie because he wasn't satisfied [TS]

01:10:30   with the sunset [TS]

01:10:31   yeah it's staging but the camera is [TS]

01:10:33   always moving around and going to angles [TS]

01:10:36   with the set [TS]

01:10:37   you clearly could stage it so everybody [TS]

01:10:40   just playing straight out and you should [TS]

01:10:41   like i love lucy and [TS]

01:10:43   right yeah but it i think you get a full [TS]

01:10:46   view I think you get like three and 60° [TS]

01:10:48   at some point where you see just about [TS]

01:10:50   every angle of the room which you don't [TS]

01:10:53   usually get the movie too [TS]

01:10:54   well then you up the difficulty factor [TS]

01:10:56   by insisting on doing eight-minute takes [TS]

01:10:58   forever yeah something goes wrong in [TS]

01:11:00   minutes 6 it's like oh well get another [TS]

01:11:02   real in there let's get going again if [TS]

01:11:04   I'm TV trivia is to be believed you know [TS]

01:11:07   you have like cat camera people being [TS]

01:11:09   having their feet run over by cameras [TS]

01:11:11   and and like he dragged off to screen [TS]

01:11:14   your way from the back so like a civil [TS]

01:11:17   war Hospital in there there's so much [TS]

01:11:19   you don't consider until you start [TS]

01:11:20   thinking about that because I was also [TS]

01:11:22   really probably the same articles you [TS]

01:11:23   were I think I didn't think about that [TS]

01:11:25   because these are huge cameras and [TS]

01:11:27   they're huge like transatlantic pipeline [TS]

01:11:29   cables connecting everything up and so [TS]

01:11:31   all these actors have to like being [TS]

01:11:33   stolen from the waist up while they're [TS]

01:11:34   like hopscotching over these moving [TS]

01:11:36   cables 31st the seam I feel like the the [TS]

01:11:40   opening sequence we're looking through [TS]

01:11:42   the curtains is probably a nod to the [TS]

01:11:44   fact that this is basically a stage play [TS]

01:11:46   being yes the current era it doesn't [TS]

01:11:49   actually open but we get the impression [TS]

01:11:50   i think maybe my favorite visual gag in [TS]

01:11:54   the whole movie is you know when they [TS]

01:11:57   open with the side curtains and there's [TS]

01:11:59   that neon sign that is literally right [TS]

01:12:01   on top of there ready to rain yeah and [TS]

01:12:03   and it's just there and and so it's kind [TS]

01:12:06   of this joke of you know here is this [TS]

01:12:07   neon blinking the whole time right this [TS]

01:12:10   neon in the middle now we know why he's [TS]

01:12:12   insane [TS]

01:12:13   well and but then at the end you know [TS]

01:12:15   now it's discovered they found the body [TS]

01:12:17   and and injury Stewart is fired off his [TS]

01:12:20   gun and your people calling the police [TS]

01:12:21   and they all just kind of settle down [TS]

01:12:23   and now because of the darkness and the [TS]

01:12:25   shifting of light it winds up becoming [TS]

01:12:28   police lights right yeah right so for [TS]

01:12:30   chance there's a foreshadow there [TS]

01:12:32   yeah and it's just so nice my perception [TS]

01:12:34   was that the Leon lights were in blue [TS]

01:12:36   until we get to Jimmy Stewart comes back [TS]

01:12:39   to find a cigarette case and that's when [TS]

01:12:42   the lights are now read [TS]

01:12:43   yeah well they're green to red flashing [TS]

01:12:45   yeah they always say I didn't know [TS]

01:12:47   something ready-to-wear that might just [TS]

01:12:48   be my brain see my favorite visual [TS]

01:12:50   flourishes in that movie are the [TS]

01:12:52   different things they do with the road [TS]

01:12:54   there's the scene there yeah well [TS]

01:12:55   disposed in another part of the rope in [TS]

01:12:58   the kitchen while the kitchen door is [TS]

01:12:59   flat agenda enclose yeah he makes a big [TS]

01:13:02   production of dropping in the drawer and [TS]

01:13:05   then there's a scene where it's a [TS]

01:13:07   close-up of the rope because he's tied [TS]

01:13:09   the books that he's going to give [TS]

01:13:10   David's father with it which is really [TS]

01:13:12   sick when you think about it and then uh [TS]

01:13:15   when Jimmy Stewart returns he the the [TS]

01:13:18   camera zooms in on his pocket as he [TS]

01:13:20   pulls the rope slowly out of it 2-2 to [TS]

01:13:23   reveal that he what a sick mofo really [TS]

01:13:28   the Rope should have gotten top building [TS]

01:13:30   in the second let's get the name of the [TS]

01:13:32   movie with the actual character starring [TS]

01:13:36   some rope as soon as himself introducing [TS]

01:13:39   and I one credit you know the one loose [TS]

01:13:41   end I feel like they really didn't have [TS]

01:13:43   that friend sorry that no I was gonna [TS]

01:13:46   say the that was a funny joke not I'm [TS]

01:13:49   afraid I disagree [TS]

01:13:51   don't be naughty that's what you're [TS]

01:13:53   hoping for Phil this is what you bought [TS]

01:13:55   a promised David hat is is left in the [TS]

01:13:58   closet which is kind of an amateur yeah [TS]

01:14:00   it's a perfect Drive shut up and i don't [TS]

01:14:05   have room for you Leopold and Loeb we [TS]

01:14:07   thought they did the perfect crime and [TS]

01:14:08   one of them left his glasses they're all [TS]

01:14:13   criminals not-so-bright premieres every [TS]

01:14:16   phase of this crime is so asinine that [TS]

01:14:18   how anybody even at sociopath could [TS]

01:14:20   think it was a perfect crime defy his [TS]

01:14:22   logic eat it I think that's part of its [TS]

01:14:25   its its elegance in some ways is that it [TS]

01:14:28   is totally it's it's / the moment right [TS]

01:14:31   in like it you know even if they [TS]

01:14:32   premeditate with certain extent it's so [TS]

01:14:34   ridiculous the idea of like it's so [TS]

01:14:35   ridiculous it just might work [TS]

01:14:37   so the thinking is that everybody would [TS]

01:14:39   think now that's far too stupid for [TS]

01:14:40   those two intelligent boys to have try [TS]

01:14:43   well I think it's just no one would ever [TS]

01:14:44   think that they would do right like it [TS]

01:14:46   it's so ridiculous so over-the-top how [TS]

01:14:48   well rather they not even Jimmy Stewart [TS]

01:14:50   believes that they would do a former [TS]

01:14:52   classmate of mine who is now in [TS]

01:14:55   the US Justice Department once said to [TS]

01:14:57   me thank God criminals are so stupid she [TS]

01:15:00   is about the about the staging of it i [TS]

01:15:03   wanted to say that i love that it feels [TS]

01:15:07   it's got its got the dynamic feeling of [TS]

01:15:10   the of a stage play with one difference [TS]

01:15:12   being where the camera goes and that is [TS]

01:15:14   the that is the power that the director [TS]

01:15:16   has over you to point you where you [TS]

01:15:18   should be looking at all times which in [TS]

01:15:21   my mind actually magnifies the effect of [TS]

01:15:23   this I I thought that made it a [TS]

01:15:26   supremely effective because it its it's [TS]

01:15:28   going to a stage play and always looking [TS]

01:15:30   exactly where you need to look and I [TS]

01:15:33   yeah I I i really enjoyed this i thought [TS]

01:15:36   this was actually spectacularly good [TS]

01:15:39   I i like the whole thing quite a lot so [TS]

01:15:43   i get i give it give it a big thumbs up [TS]

01:15:45   I thought it was just incredibly [TS]

01:15:47   effective and intense and I like the [TS]

01:15:49   fact that we were moving around in this [TS]

01:15:51   in this space it was 88 you know it had [TS]

01:15:55   a cinematic element with the with the [TS]

01:15:57   way the cameras moving around but it [TS]

01:15:58   also felt like it was just riveting [TS]

01:15:59   theater and it's not an experience I've [TS]

01:16:02   had in many films so I really appreciate [TS]

01:16:05   it [TS]

01:16:06   I just can't get over how it sits it [TS]

01:16:08   really is like X Games downhill [TS]

01:16:11   snowboarding where it's just see him I'm [TS]

01:16:13   yes yes I could just jump this but why [TS]

01:16:15   not what I just do a backflip while [TS]

01:16:17   you're doing this like i'm gonna i'm [TS]

01:16:19   gonna show you how to our depth i am and [TS]

01:16:22   how absolutely fearless I am that [TS]

01:16:25   anybody else would absolutely snap their [TS]

01:16:28   neck and four places if they try to do [TS]

01:16:30   some of the things that I'm trying to [TS]

01:16:32   get away with here and yet when he does [TS]

01:16:34   it you just viewed you don't even notice [TS]

01:16:36   that the first time particularly and [TS]

01:16:38   then your nose to the second time and [TS]

01:16:40   you think oh I just noticed that [TS]

01:16:42   Oh wasn't that interesting and what [TS]

01:16:46   flare [TS]

01:16:47   yeah I'm right with you here Jason I I [TS]

01:16:48   loved everything about some thought the [TS]

01:16:50   acting was superb [TS]

01:16:52   I i loved this sort of gallows humor [TS]

01:16:54   that popped up [TS]

01:16:55   oh yeah ik frequently there's a line [TS]

01:16:59   where Janet says I hope you knock them [TS]

01:17:00   dead two fellow yeah exactly [TS]

01:17:02   there's another one where she says I [TS]

01:17:04   could really strangle you Brandon [TS]

01:17:06   and you when you're quite a good chicken [TS]

01:17:09   strangling over the chicken is a chicken [TS]

01:17:11   strangling his subjects [TS]

01:17:13   I'm not a chicken strangler and their [TS]

01:17:14   struggle the chicken that's that's the [TS]

01:17:17   equivalent of ripping the newspaper [TS]

01:17:19   right like giving away a little too much [TS]

01:17:21   here we know what is safety word is I [TS]

01:17:23   also like the with the introduction of [TS]

01:17:25   Jimmy Stewart to Nancy when she says did [TS]

01:17:28   he do me justice his responses do you [TS]

01:17:30   deserve justice [TS]

01:17:31   i actually laughed out loud that it was [TS]

01:17:34   hilarious [TS]

01:17:35   there's a lot of really nice details in [TS]

01:17:36   here I like the fact that at the end he [TS]

01:17:39   leaves two bullets in the gun there's [TS]

01:17:41   there's 130 yeah Lenny fires three out [TS]

01:17:44   the window and I thought that was why he [TS]

01:17:46   keeps to in the chamber in case he needs [TS]

01:17:48   one for each of the boys I haven't seen [TS]

01:17:50   this before and that absolutely popped [TS]

01:17:51   up yeah I ran that back to actually [TS]

01:17:53   count on with more shots at fired nice [TS]

01:17:55   everybody left to he's gonna kill both [TS]

01:17:57   yeah if a truck if they give him trouble [TS]

01:18:00   that's what he's gonna do and I really [TS]

01:18:02   like the way that the tables turn when [TS]

01:18:04   Rupert returns because he's so cocksure [TS]

01:18:07   throughout the first the party segment [TS]

01:18:09   and when he comes back and it's he's [TS]

01:18:11   pretty clear on the fact that the guys [TS]

01:18:13   got the gun he now just seems all too [TS]

01:18:15   fallible and he suddenly seems genuinely [TS]

01:18:17   nervous about what he's gotten himself [TS]

01:18:18   into and I think that is just that's [TS]

01:18:20   fantastic [TS]

01:18:21   the desperation with which he's he goes [TS]

01:18:24   to he goes to Jimmy Stewart and tries to [TS]

01:18:26   I've I believe that I can talk him into [TS]

01:18:28   being an accomplice to because oh my god [TS]

01:18:31   we are cut from the same cloth we r we r [TS]

01:18:33   skindred spirits and he will be more [TS]

01:18:35   than happy to help me cover up this [TS]

01:18:37   murder invent a pic department actually [TS]

01:18:40   thought almost up until the very end [TS]

01:18:41   that he might just turn that was the [TS]

01:18:43   question right and didn't think I didn't [TS]

01:18:45   think so but I ok I'd I didn't have the [TS]

01:18:49   same experiences i think in a modern [TS]

01:18:50   film i would have thought that it was [TS]

01:18:52   possible in this with Jimmy Stewart [TS]

01:18:54   being the character is giving Stewart [TS]

01:18:57   he's not a killer clown in this one so [TS]

01:18:59   if there's a turn that I was sort of [TS]

01:19:01   half wondering what's gonna happen is if [TS]

01:19:04   if they if they are kind of the same [TS]

01:19:06   people he would definitely come back not [TS]

01:19:08   necessarily to bring them to justice but [TS]

01:19:10   i know that i could inflict a lot of [TS]

01:19:12   suffering if I just let them quietly try [TS]

01:19:16   to figure out if I know or find just [TS]

01:19:18   simply the [TS]

01:19:19   website just really for my cigarette [TS]

01:19:20   case and oh and the up until the time [TS]

01:19:23   when he just opens the window and sticks [TS]

01:19:26   his hand out there with a gun and fired [TS]

01:19:28   shots into the air which is not the even [TS]

01:19:31   if I thought that ok maybe he's going to [TS]

01:19:32   call people and I would never have [TS]

01:19:34   figured out that he's gonna do the most [TS]

01:19:36   painful way possible yeah which is going [TS]

01:19:39   to be no we're just going to sit out [TS]

01:19:40   here while I've got the gun into bullets [TS]

01:19:42   and you're gonna listen to the commotion [TS]

01:19:43   and are going to listen to police siren [TS]

01:19:45   start to come and they're just gonna be [TS]

01:19:47   so we're gonna try to guess where that [TS]

01:19:49   shot came from [TS]

01:19:50   yeah it's gonna take at least its mark [TS]

01:19:52   too because it because if he tries to [TS]

01:19:54   make for the door there's a chance he [TS]

01:19:55   could still be overpowered by those two [TS]

01:19:57   I mean he's got a bum leg [TS]

01:19:59   there's two of them were younger he's [TS]

01:20:00   ruined the perfection of their crime at [TS]

01:20:02   this point because you know you're not [TS]

01:20:03   you're not getting a truck with a body [TS]

01:20:04   out yet the department under these [TS]

01:20:06   circumstances I so I steve and i have [TS]

01:20:08   professed our approval of this one the [TS]

01:20:11   the rest of you guys wanna want to jump [TS]

01:20:13   in here before we wrap it up I kind of [TS]

01:20:15   find it gimmicky like I spend a lot of [TS]

01:20:19   the time watching the camera thinking oh [TS]

01:20:22   they just had to swap that table in when [TS]

01:20:25   the camera move over there oh here comes [TS]

01:20:27   the hidden cut like camera work is very [TS]

01:20:30   fancy i think it may be too fancy and [TS]

01:20:34   maybe fancy for its own sake for me you [TS]

01:20:37   know i actually got most of the way [TS]

01:20:38   through the movie before I remembered [TS]

01:20:40   that I had read somewhere that it was [TS]

01:20:41   all done in one continuous shot and so [TS]

01:20:43   that didn't distract me I could [TS]

01:20:45   definitely see it doing so and i [TS]

01:20:46   remember that in advance but it wasn't [TS]

01:20:49   so gimmicky to me that it was always [TS]

01:20:51   poking out at me and tell the jacket [TS]

01:20:53   zoom seen and that was kind of reading i [TS]

01:20:55   agree with with Monty that it's it's [TS]

01:20:57   gimmicky but i don't think that attracts [TS]

01:20:59   necessarily from it like if it's the [TS]

01:21:01   kind of thing where I feel like you know [TS]

01:21:03   again like I think and he was saying [TS]

01:21:05   earlier in other hands it would probably [TS]

01:21:07   come off a lot worse but since there's [TS]

01:21:10   chops to sort of back it up here and [TS]

01:21:12   because the action is so electrifying [TS]

01:21:14   and that the actor to do such a great [TS]

01:21:16   job of capturing your attention [TS]

01:21:18   I don't find it as distracting as it [TS]

01:21:20   otherwise would have been I mean I've [TS]

01:21:22   seen rope a number of times now and it [TS]

01:21:24   still manages that scene you know that [TS]

01:21:26   Jason was talking about with the [TS]

01:21:27   housekeeper walking down the hall and [TS]

01:21:30   then all the way back like never [TS]

01:21:31   fails to like put a catching my breath [TS]

01:21:33   just it's so well-executed even having [TS]

01:21:36   seen this movie several times in knowing [TS]

01:21:38   exactly what was gonna happen afterwards [TS]

01:21:40   you still have that moment of like oh [TS]

01:21:42   dear god she's gonna open it in front of [TS]

01:21:43   all these people that would be terrible [TS]

01:21:45   you know and so I think that it's it's [TS]

01:21:48   agree with Phil's you know casting this [TS]

01:21:51   as an underrated movie since I know it [TS]

01:21:52   didn't didn't do very well at the time [TS]

01:21:54   but it is technically I think there's a [TS]

01:21:56   lot of stuff going on here and it just [TS]

01:21:58   shows the breath and range of [TS]

01:22:00   Hitchcock's talent that he can do a [TS]

01:22:02   movie like this as well as a movie like [TS]

01:22:04   you know rear window you could argue is [TS]

01:22:06   gimmicky I think it's his best movie [TS]

01:22:08   that's my favorite of his but you know [TS]

01:22:09   you could certainly argue make an [TS]

01:22:10   argument for the gimmickry of it but he [TS]

01:22:13   key in some ways does really well when [TS]

01:22:15   he has those constraints to work with i [TS]

01:22:16   think it really brings out some of his [TS]

01:22:18   creativity [TS]

01:22:19   yeah I philly you know the reading up on [TS]

01:22:23   this film after I watched it to find out [TS]

01:22:25   that it was it seems to have generally [TS]

01:22:27   not gotten very good reviews and even [TS]

01:22:29   revisited it you know decades later it [TS]

01:22:31   didn't really get very good reviews also [TS]

01:22:33   that Hitchcock said that he thought it [TS]

01:22:35   was a failed experiment and that it was [TS]

01:22:36   essentially unseen force York's a decade [TS]

01:22:40   least favorite movie that he did with [TS]

01:22:42   Hitchcock he'd done enjoy this movie and [TS]

01:22:44   so I read all this after having watched [TS]

01:22:46   it and I thought wow everybody's wrong [TS]

01:22:50   yeah and maybe it's because it's 2015 [TS]

01:22:54   now and and it's not 1948 but it from [TS]

01:22:58   the perspective of somebody watching it [TS]

01:22:59   for the first time in 2015 [TS]

01:23:01   like I thought it was kinda terrific so [TS]

01:23:03   I felt like it was fresh in a way that i [TS]

01:23:05   have not experienced in awhile i've not [TS]

01:23:08   seen a film like this it's I mean it's [TS]

01:23:10   very the the language is very arch like [TS]

01:23:13   at the Broadway writing at the time and [TS]

01:23:15   I mean that's the only thing for me is [TS]

01:23:17   that I can conserve see the the stilted [TS]

01:23:20   language and that pulls me out of it a [TS]

01:23:21   little bit but I don't mind because the [TS]

01:23:23   tension is so good and and the yeah and [TS]

01:23:26   again it's it's like a really good [TS]

01:23:28   colombo like that I've seen it maybe [TS]

01:23:30   eight or nine times the dialogue the [TS]

01:23:33   dialogue is brackets can really take you [TS]

01:23:36   out of the movie if you pay too much [TS]

01:23:38   attention to it which is a weird thing [TS]

01:23:40   to say and the camera work in the movie [TS]

01:23:42   can really take you out of it [TS]

01:23:44   if you're focused on the camera work but [TS]

01:23:46   i really like the the tension of it i [TS]

01:23:50   like that it is the very definition of [TS]

01:23:52   suspense and I really think there's [TS]

01:23:55   something to be said we have this vision [TS]

01:23:57   of Jimmy Stewart as this clean-cut [TS]

01:24:00   all-american guy and in this movie is a [TS]

01:24:02   complete dick [TS]

01:24:03   yeah and I i really like movies where [TS]

01:24:08   Jimmy Stewart plays a dick anatomy after [TS]

01:24:11   the Thin Man anatomy of a murder at the [TS]

01:24:13   naked spur at these these are really [TS]

01:24:15   enjoyable movies which I i would [TS]

01:24:18   recommend even though he solves the [TS]

01:24:19   crime I mean what he's really saying is [TS]

01:24:21   hey I may I may have written about how [TS]

01:24:24   you should go ahead and kill people [TS]

01:24:25   without feeling bad but I didn't mean [TS]

01:24:27   for you to do it i mean it's not it is a [TS]

01:24:30   new host reaction he has because he's a [TS]

01:24:33   jerk [TS]

01:24:34   once and it's that he's realized that [TS]

01:24:35   this was all a huge mistake if you know [TS]

01:24:38   this this cause everything in his life [TS]

01:24:40   into question it is the dark version of [TS]

01:24:42   the Marshall McLuhan cameo and Annie [TS]

01:24:44   haha no might work this 1i i thought was [TS]

01:24:48   aces I really you know I think you hit [TS]

01:24:50   it out of the park with with these Phil [TS]

01:24:52   good i might be the best thing that I've [TS]

01:24:54   seen on old movie club [TS]

01:24:56   well yeah I i agree i don't have to [TS]

01:24:59   correct that I think I enjoyed rope more [TS]

01:25:01   than I've enjoyed any of the selections [TS]

01:25:03   an old movie club so far like when we [TS]

01:25:05   were done I turned to my turn to Lauren [TS]

01:25:07   I was like that was terrific and I don't [TS]

01:25:09   know usually it's like well that's [TS]

01:25:11   another rule moving the books [TS]

01:25:12   well Addison has kiss me deadly but [TS]

01:25:15   people didn't bring this time I like the [TS]

01:25:18   fact that it's compact they get it all [TS]

01:25:20   done in an hour and 20 and we've seen [TS]

01:25:22   some films that are a little stretched [TS]

01:25:23   out just what you guys are saying you [TS]

01:25:26   like row better than singing in the rain [TS]

01:25:28   or duck soup [TS]

01:25:30   well that's crazy talk about duck soup i [TS]

01:25:32   cant yeah I know jack duck soup i just [TS]

01:25:34   watched all the time and you know I I [TS]

01:25:36   wouldn't say that is already said that [TS]

01:25:38   he doesn't like singing I don't like [TS]

01:25:40   singing because we're watching their [TS]

01:25:42   excrement our soul should yeah i think i [TS]

01:25:46   would probably it's that's that's a [TS]

01:25:48   tough call money I've got to say both [TS]

01:25:50   all three of those are I think quite [TS]

01:25:52   great movies I like singing in the rain [TS]

01:25:54   a lot i think i probably would we watch [TS]

01:25:56   this [TS]

01:25:57   first before I rewatching the others [TS]

01:25:58   sick so I so I've said that a shadow of [TS]

01:26:02   a doubt is my favorite and and more and [TS]

01:26:03   said that I think rear window is his [TS]

01:26:06   favorite Hitchcock movie did [TS]

01:26:07   does anyone else have a favorite [TS]

01:26:09   Hitchcock they want to throw out there [TS]

01:26:10   but I actually like the 39 steps a whole [TS]

01:26:14   lot of the 39 steps I i really enjoy the [TS]

01:26:16   movie [TS]

01:26:17   I we we could discuss that now but i [TS]

01:26:19   think this podcast with last five hours [TS]

01:26:21   indeed he started to throw out super fun [TS]

01:26:24   like North by Northwest but more action [TS]

01:26:27   yeah and harder to understand yeah I i [TS]

01:26:31   love North by Northwest just because but [TS]

01:26:36   I love fun what you love [TS]

01:26:38   find anything crazy well I've seen all [TS]

01:26:40   of for Hitchcock movies including these [TS]

01:26:42   two and i gotta say i'm a psycho guy but [TS]

01:26:46   that's you know that's just a second [TS]

01:26:48   house it's charts [TS]

01:26:49   secondly I think it i think the the [TS]

01:26:51   great thing about psycho is there or the [TS]

01:26:53   things i like about it is the is so much [TS]

01:26:55   of the stuff that doesn't have to do [TS]

01:26:56   with the everybody boils down to the [TS]

01:26:58   shower scene or you know the Norman [TS]

01:27:00   Bates reveal sort of at the end and [TS]

01:27:02   there is so much more going on in that [TS]

01:27:04   yes it's a fascinating movie I i just [TS]

01:27:07   cannot have seen a number of times for [TS]

01:27:09   film classes and things like that it's [TS]

01:27:10   just everytime i watch it a secret [TS]

01:27:12   there's so much stuff going on here that [TS]

01:27:13   you don't even pay attention to its all [TS]

01:27:15   these different movies and one and I [TS]

01:27:17   think some of the best stuff happens [TS]

01:27:18   with so great even turns up [TS]

01:27:20   well as I mean if it is essentially a [TS]

01:27:22   psychotic movie is a movie that has a [TS]

01:27:24   psychotic break because it starts in one [TS]

01:27:25   place and go someplace cold never ended [TS]

01:27:28   well that's not really my father going [TS]

01:27:30   to see psycho in the theater was one of [TS]

01:27:32   his like I mean to this day one of his [TS]

01:27:34   favorite film going experiences because [TS]

01:27:36   nobody said anything nobody knew what it [TS]

01:27:39   was about nobody boiled it [TS]

01:27:41   yeah you get 20 minutes into the movie [TS]

01:27:43   and suddenly wait a minute you just [TS]

01:27:45   killed the main character [TS]

01:27:47   what the hell's going on huh you could [TS]

01:27:49   argue that's gimmicky to but it like [TS]

01:27:50   again and different in different hands [TS]

01:27:52   that might not that might have been a [TS]

01:27:54   terrible movie but Hitchcock can pull it [TS]

01:27:56   off [TS]

01:27:56   I'm gonna go with the understand by the [TS]

01:27:59   way and say that I think we're window is [TS]

01:28:00   my favorite peanuts [TS]

01:28:02   it's not a classy answer but I actually [TS]

01:28:05   really like Alfred Hitchcock Presents [TS]

01:28:06   there are not a lot of [TS]

01:28:08   respected directors that have a theme [TS]

01:28:10   song that come from their comics / [TS]

01:28:13   mccobb anthology television show [TS]

01:28:17   I respect that about him and there are a [TS]

01:28:18   lot of good episodes that Samsung people [TS]

01:28:20   still remember to yeah my favorite [TS]

01:28:24   probably has to be dial M for murder [TS]

01:28:26   oh because you're my love as I like [TS]

01:28:29   psycho but the problem with it is that [TS]

01:28:31   for me I see it once and then I see it [TS]

01:28:34   twice and there's really I have to I [TS]

01:28:36   have to be enjoying only like the craft [TS]

01:28:38   of it there really nothing else I can [TS]

01:28:40   really save her [TS]

01:28:41   what I love about dial M for murder is [TS]

01:28:43   Ray Milland the greatest to me the [TS]

01:28:45   greatest Hitchcock murderer ever because [TS]

01:28:48   he is so clever and he's showing so much [TS]

01:28:51   agility he has what is legitimately a [TS]

01:28:53   really really good well-thought-out plan [TS]

01:28:56   and then something throws a monkey [TS]

01:28:58   wrench in it and instead of like oh my [TS]

01:29:00   god I got cover this up its wait a [TS]

01:29:01   minute this could be even better and [TS]

01:29:04   this really is the classic case of I [TS]

01:29:05   kind of hope he gets away with it [TS]

01:29:08   yeah because he's he deserves the win in [TS]

01:29:11   that sense and the other great thing is [TS]

01:29:12   that the inspector who is this little [TS]

01:29:14   running around expect our it's back to [TS]

01:29:17   talk to them for yall already like [TS]

01:29:19   Rockets did you stab silly bunny sudden [TS]

01:29:22   that you already had one key sound but [TS]

01:29:25   really watching rainbow laughter watch [TS]

01:29:27   ray milland do that to do that the movie [TS]

01:29:30   once every month for the rest of my life [TS]

01:29:32   and never get bored with it i also have [TS]

01:29:35   thought was lucky enough to see a 3d [TS]

01:29:37   screening of this game you're speaking [TS]

01:29:39   of gimmicky yeah okay but what about of [TS]

01:29:41   you don't have to see it in 3di I was on [TS]

01:29:44   3d like maybe the tenth time I saw an [TS]

01:29:47   obvious the shots that they set up for [TS]

01:29:49   3d USA for the 3d you want all three [TS]

01:29:52   dimensions happen but it's made maybe [TS]

01:29:55   that's also the benefit of having had [TS]

01:29:56   the opportunity to see it does i didn't [TS]

01:29:58   think was terribly gimmicky whenever [TS]

01:30:00   when I started like in flat land but [TS]

01:30:03   when i saw it in the UU basic you have [TS]

01:30:05   two of two projections in the in the in [TS]

01:30:07   the lighthouse you're wearing like not [TS]

01:30:09   red green glasses your we can see things [TS]

01:30:11   in true color and you have this moment [TS]

01:30:13   where you know that there's something [TS]

01:30:16   between you and the thing you want to [TS]

01:30:18   see at the entire audience leans to the [TS]

01:30:20   left [TS]

01:30:21   see around that lamp so i can see the [TS]

01:30:23   person who just entered that's like okay [TS]

01:30:25   this guy knew how to deal with 3d yeah [TS]

01:30:28   so to counteract this positivity 44 [TS]

01:30:31   listeners out there who wanna like dive [TS]

01:30:34   into the Hitchcock cool let me steer you [TS]

01:30:36   away from three movies I don't watch the [TS]

01:30:40   wrong man don't watch the trouble with [TS]

01:30:43   harry and for God's sake don't watch the [TS]

01:30:45   birds who I like the birds with special [TS]

01:30:49   effects do not hold up better it's got [TS]

01:30:51   some great scenes that all the birds on [TS]

01:30:53   the jungle fever still just a great as [TS]

01:30:55   they doing there anyways there want a [TS]

01:30:57   steak sink it [TS]

01:30:58   watch two minutes of the bird it's not [TS]

01:31:00   that way family plot [TS]

01:31:03   not so much now to cap I don't like to [TS]

01:31:06   catch a thief i know a lot of people dad [TS]

01:31:08   if I something black and something [TS]

01:31:10   lacking in it for me that it should be [TS]

01:31:12   better than it is it has my favorite [TS]

01:31:14   Hitchcock cameo but aside from that [TS]

01:31:17   though I do watch notorious yeah which [TS]

01:31:21   is fantastic [TS]

01:31:22   no I completely forgot about Rebecca a [TS]

01:31:24   new answers that you guys alright [TS]

01:31:25   because I like second floor we are seven [TS]

01:31:28   areas very good yes foreign [TS]

01:31:30   correspondents very good i just watched [TS]

01:31:31   that recently I like I want and if you [TS]

01:31:33   like if you want Farley Granger and rope [TS]

01:31:36   you love them and strength strangers on [TS]

01:31:38   a train [TS]

01:31:39   great movie this is another stupid plan [TS]

01:31:41   by the way [TS]

01:31:42   yeah that crisscross thank god they're [TS]

01:31:46   so stupid has my friend once it's got [TS]

01:31:48   nothing on putting soda in your in your [TS]

01:31:50   coffee with the also to poison trick [TS]

01:31:54   alright well i think has been a [TS]

01:31:55   successful edition of the old movie club [TS]

01:31:58   well we can't have that happen again no [TS]

01:31:59   no pic heard terrible things but nobody [TS]

01:32:02   should watch for a theme magic its host [TS]

01:32:04   oh you've plotted the perfect cat [TS]

01:32:07   interesting [TS]

01:32:08   nobody look in the trunk did I mention [TS]

01:32:12   that i've had something to drink I hope [TS]

01:32:14   nobody looks at the trial already [TS]

01:32:16   disposed of my recording so i had the [TS]

01:32:18   table laid out and then they said you [TS]

01:32:20   can't Sherman on the table and they made [TS]

01:32:22   me all bring everything over the trunk [TS]

01:32:24   for no reason reason he added that the [TS]

01:32:27   podcast get Jackson you got it so that [TS]

01:32:30   the crime was [TS]

01:32:31   headed out something like sometimes you [TS]

01:32:37   gotta kill the podcast you love your [TS]

01:32:40   plan all along [TS]

01:32:42   hmm ok I'd like to thank my guests for [TS]

01:32:44   joining me on another edition of the old [TS]

01:32:46   movie club money actually thanks for [TS]

01:32:48   being here thank you I didn't kill [TS]

01:32:50   anybody [TS]

01:32:51   no not yet i did Laura thank you thank [TS]

01:32:54   you and unlike rope I'm glad that this [TS]

01:32:57   David was here for the whole thing and [TS]

01:32:59   leave [TS]

01:33:00   hey yes that's right go back in your [TS]

01:33:02   trunk now sir [TS]

01:33:03   yeah well kandi not go thank you very [TS]

01:33:06   much [TS]

01:33:07   I admit that I did it but the real [TS]

01:33:09   criminal is the society that made me Dan [TS]

01:33:11   Morgan thanks for being here i had [TS]

01:33:14   equipped and then they went off the [TS]

01:33:15   rails pleasure to be here now I hope [TS]

01:33:17   there wasn't another train coming in the [TS]

01:33:19   other direction when you're just gonna [TS]

01:33:21   have you guys it was gonna be out the [TS]

01:33:22   coffee you guys were all drinking I [TS]

01:33:24   don't know [TS]

01:33:24   and Steve let's thank you know you [TS]

01:33:27   standing here I'm going to get myself a [TS]

01:33:29   bottle of beer and for putting this all [TS]

01:33:33   together Phil Michaels thank you with [TS]

01:33:35   hope you've enjoyed our evening of tales [TS]

01:33:38   of murder and now here's some sponsors [TS]

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01:33:45   that's the word jimmy stewart i've ever [TS]

01:33:47   had just be hosted by dr. evil always [TS]

01:33:51   yeah and for the comfortable I've been [TS]

01:33:54   your hostess and snow will see you next [TS]

01:33:56   time [TS]