00:00:00 ◼ ► well as it happens I'm on my way up to the moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► are you by any chance going up you're basically yes as a matter of fact I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► it is there any particular reason why you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/8">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► well I hope you don't think I'm too inquisitive but perhaps you can clear up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/12">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► the mystery about what's going on I'm sorry but I'm not sure I know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/17">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► well it's just for the past two weeks there have been some extremely odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/23">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► things happening at Clearview clearly yes well for one thing whenever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► phone the base all you get is recording which repeat the phone lines are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/32">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► well I suppose they've been having a bit of trouble with some of the equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► yes well at first we thought that was the expertise has been going on for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/40">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► past 10 days you mean you haven't been able to get any one of the base for 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/45">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► days that's right I see two days ago when a rocket buses was denied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/49">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► permission for an emergency landing at previous how did they manage to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/55">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► without any communication previous Control came on the air just long enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/60">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► to transmit their refusal well that does sound very odd I'm afraid there's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/64">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► denying them in permission to land was a direct violation of the IAS convention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/71">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► and yes well I hope the crew got back safely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/75">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► fortunately they did well I'm glad about that doctor at the region impressing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/78">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► an appointment reticent to discuss may I ask you a straightforward question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/84">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► certainly quite frankly we have some very reliable intelligence reports that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/88">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► a quite serious epidemic has broken out at Clearview something apparently of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/94">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► unknown origin is this in fact what has happened I'm sorry doctor smiles love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/99">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► but I'm really not at liberty to discuss this epidemic could you please bring to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/106">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► our based we should be given all the facts are just my life and not permitted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/111">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► so I'm here in Chicago who are partners world headquarters with my good friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/119">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► last night we went to see a screening of 2001 a Space Odyssey the Music Box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/130">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► Theatre Music Box Theatre seventy millimeter print a couple years ago we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/137">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► were there there was a new a new printer this movie that came out and we thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/144">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► we were going to go see it was a different folder sort of scratched up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/147">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► seventeen we were gonna go we went through the what are our dinner at Ohio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/152">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► State University because we had heard that they had the new print and as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/157">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► as it was sold out it was great to see it projected large but as soon as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► started rolling there is a ticking artifact the left side channel of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/165">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► audio in the first section of the film as soon as we heard that taking we knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/170">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► that we were watching that same old print so if you go to see 2001 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/174">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► seventy millimeter premium know you got the rape women the picture is absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/179">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► gorgeous and there's no crazy audio thing on the list right and in addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/183">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► to the fact that we didn't have any audio error last night there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/187">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► digital audio right thing was not the the analog audio decided that we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/191">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► lucky enough to meet to chat with the projectionist last night during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► intermission how's that your mission in a film so called and he said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/202">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► originally the seventy million prints were released with an optical audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/207">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► track that ran alongside the picture and that after that they used a strip of MAG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/211">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► like magnetic tape that ran along picture but then now all that's a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/220">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► time to pictures time code and its slaves basically a CD player which has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/225">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► but you know even though the audit was perfectly clear it is an old track and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/232">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► believe that it's mono and I also know we also noticed that there's very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/239">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► bottom and they're very little based on the track and I think that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/244">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► true of most of the films of that era we're sort of spoiled now by you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/247">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► transformers and everything else these chest-thumping subwoofer later exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/253">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► exactly although it did sound great and they did it again no bottom and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/259">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► no bueno had been based in addition to a truly truly magnificent picture quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/265">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► yeah it was you know I see my father took me to see 2001 I can't figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/272">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► exactly what it was but it was soon after came out I would put me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► eight years old so little girl died but and I remember being enthralled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/282">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► confused by the film but this was certainly the best representation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/287">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► film I've ever seen and we were sitting in the second row and that was the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/294">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► place to be for house family can I think the film film has been part of a seventy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/298">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► millimeter festival that they're running and I think every seat for every show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/305">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► sold out right away pretty cool so I don't think anybody who ever go see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/309">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► movie you come out of it and you do exactly what I was saying I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/320">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► do we start talking about whether we were with my 12 year old line yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/323">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► so we couldn't help his first question is what I actually like I really thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/328">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► that Spencer had a truly fabulous interpretation of the last shot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/334">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► Superman floating over the earth and I know he was kinda half joking but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/341">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► actually think that you know that to me is the basic gist of the story as I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/347">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► is that four million years ago whoever these whoever this is with behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/352">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► mindless used to model it turn our ape-like ancestors in the men that junk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/357">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► how do we turn from apes two men it was with their help and mom and that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/364">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► four million years later through the same people's help Dave Bowman has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/370">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► become the first whatever's next after us going from humans to whichever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/376">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► greater than humans day bowman's the first one is yes and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/382">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► Spencer is a person with that theory but that's the best I can make of either you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/387">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► know it the more I learn about the film and the more I see it the less I care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/392">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► about what the actual specific meaning of that last reel of film is you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/396">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► takes it so interesting me all the details in the middle section of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/404">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► Jupiter discovery section all the details of everything takes forever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► it's you see every little bit of everything and then we make a huge job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/412">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► you know obviously the most famous caught in cinema history between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/419">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► bone in the spaceship and I jump and then you know jumped on that flits can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/423">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► acid-induced sort of color sex and it really is right there's these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/427">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► fantastic believes in the movie there's the one where you did jump cut from four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/434">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► million years ago to 40 years in the future I mean I still think of it as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/438">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► future you know it's eleven years after right but over the past 12 years now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/444">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► then that last real is another jump like that where I mean who knows when or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/453">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► where you are but the other thing that really strike struck me last night I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/457">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► mean I again is super obvious but up until that last real up until you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/462">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► I I think of it like I always thought he was going through hyperspace or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► something that's where he's going to wherever the people who made the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/472">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► are right but at that moment the movie shifts from two hours or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/476">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► being extremely almost identically scientific like both in from the caveman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/484">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► stuff through the space stuff you know this sort of almost extraordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/490">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► precision and an attempt to do everything as realistically as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/495">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► to a final reel which every single second of it who knows if anybody's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/501">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► realize it completely and there is an embodiment ad is it the wormhole fruit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/510">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► centers other theory was when the very old man wakes up in the end he said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/524">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► sort of a conventional hollywood way to approach it if you have a chance to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/529">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► this print and we understand that this will be the print that circulate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/534">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► circulating so I would certainly encourage you to have a chance to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/538">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► to see it it the first time I ever saw the film where things started to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/542">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► and I don't mean that like as an insult to the film obviously it's special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/551">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► effects and it's from 1968 but the you mentioned last night I think the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/556">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► thing the 3d model stuff like of the discovery still holds up really well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/564">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► some of the scenes are actually 2d photo realistic paintings or photographs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/569">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► are moved across another 2d surface and the fidelity of the picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/578">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► last night it was a little bit put the light of it looked flat yeah not bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/583">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► glad so it sort of is sort of interesting to see a projected that such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/593">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► a different thing than to see even the DVD on your big screen flat screen at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/599">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► home whenever so and some of the stuff honestly I really don't think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/603">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► just me being there Norma's fan of the movie special effects seemed still look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/607">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► as good as anything you ever gonna see because it looks absolutely real there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/613">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► some shots where the camera is sort of stationary and space outer space and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/618">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► discovery is passing over it and it it looks and only you can never be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/624">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► surpassed because it really looks like what it would look like if you put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► seventy millimeter camera in outer space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/632">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► a real discovery and fluid over the camera and every fly by the camera of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/635">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► every space ship since 1968 owes its existence to that particular opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/643">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► scene and a lot of the interiors opening scene of the discovery of the Jupiter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/648">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► sex in the interiors really hold up like just remarkably well just in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/654">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► does that feel like it this could be a real pod bay station starship and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/660">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► just feels absolutely we can actually focus wardrobe is sort of right back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/667">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► style right now everything is like very contemporary yeah I do you know I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/671">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► we gotta get on them to to Barry Lyndon extremely I would be there would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/679">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► great pic cuz I that's another member I would just love to see it on the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/683">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► screen of all of the other films I think that would be the one just talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/687">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► seeing a projected that would be the next protected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/692">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► I was at that Kubrick exhibit in Amsterdam and that just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/696">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► interesting it's now in LA and I and it seemed as if they had this big space at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/700">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► the new film museum right on the water they're really rebuilding and it each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/707">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► the space was divided up by the movie so there was one section that was dr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/711">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► Strangelove and it was another section of was 2001 and there was another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/715">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► section that was passed but that really cool thing was they were showing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/719">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► projection of long sequences from the film on large screens in each of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/724">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► sections but the sections of the exhibit were not separated from each other so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/730">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► while you were watching Alex in clockwork you could hear how the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/734">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► side of the room and you could hear work in monthly talking to the russian Prime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/740">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► premier from strangelove it had it was like your head it was like the net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/746">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► effect of it was like maybe what it might have been to be like you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► you had all these ideas floating around in your head and one time there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/754">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► great app for that exhibit two videos de VC nao yeah and it's got two photos I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/759">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► never never seen anywhere before that impacts photos are in that episode even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/763">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► in the exhibit interests yes anybody out there is an interesting Kubrick and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/767">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► you're not you're probably already stopped the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/771">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► you gotta go to the Apple App Store just search for Kubrick and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/774">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► actually just the name of the app can you but it's it's like a great people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/779">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► get really coffee-table book is really there is another thing just a random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/784">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► thing that stuck out to me I said I mentioned this to you last night after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/789">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► the film but I'd never thought about it before but it really stuck out to me was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/792">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► in the caveman sequence in the pre-history sequence there's a scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/797">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► where a cheetah is up on like a liberal little small cliff above the the tribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/802">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► and pounces on the tax one of the tribes people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/811">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► and I don't know how they shot that because I realized it's and it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/815">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► all my stuff you know with cuts it was like 11 shot I believe I think you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/820">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► it jumped a cut when the Tigers jumped and then the rest of it is just hold on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/825">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► a shot I got kind of a long shot of guy guy but he's never been fighting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/830">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► cheetah and and everybody knows that there was it was people in suits doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/845">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► so they have like a guy in a suit fighting against the front projector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/850">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► glass screen showing the go hard desert like and you know I noticed it seemed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/856">TS</a>]
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00:14:27 ◼ ► effects you know they just one of the Oscar nominated films as a boy the tiger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/867">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► in a boat for god sakes maybe it didn't occur to me that that can't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/870">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► attacking that guy but the thing that it could mean that Sheen is that the color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/876">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► correction was often its relative to the scenes before and after it and it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/880">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► me so I can see this movie too many times but it made me think I bet I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/885">TS</a>]
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00:14:53 ◼ ► maybe the lighting was incorrect but the fact was that they needed the action so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/893">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► they had to do what they could with the color correction to make it sort of fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/898">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► with the scene that came before and after I i agree with that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/901">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► there is something off about the lady I love to see where the leopard turns into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/905">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► the camera and the front projection light is reflected in his eyes from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/909">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► that's like which probably wouldn't happen in need to know in a way let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/914">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► talk about one other thing is to see a lot of see that you've got a good big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► laughs in the movie always gets a big laugh when you see the movie it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► zero-gravity toilet instructions right on the pan-am shuttle yeah that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/925">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► way it would put it on ya that he's going to the spaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/932">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► species and its like paragraphs and paragraphs of text and I believe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/938">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► all real texas not late lorem ipsum dolar and that comes up and he he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/943">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► put looking at it he's like puzzled by it and I sort of think that that scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/948">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► is like maybe only seen the film that actually doesn't fit that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/953">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► they're just as again because as you said he's been he's been flying around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/957">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► the galaxy for a long time he's been on the ship before I if I'm hard to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/964">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► he had had to go to the bathroom before right and secondly if everyone who ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/968">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► flew on these ships used a zero-gravity toilet with they have to have like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/974">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► of these instruction me it's clearly a joke for the contemporary audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/979">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► watching the film which is really very little of that is that the stewardesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/985">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► I think all mister discuss their not really played it to write a stewardess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/990">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► shoes which have some velcro on the bottom to keep her from to allow her to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/994">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► it's a grip shoes on the side and for me that and it looked cool its own sake of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► the gate is looking thing but to me that was another thing like thing for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► audience because if everybody wore those shoes you wouldn't put groups you it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► doesn't stay tennis shoes I'm going to get my shoes you know it doesn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► know like so it was sort of a way to give out to scientific information was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► almost as though they they did like it was almost the equivalent of putting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► graphic on-screen within our oh you know like a pop up ground that like labels it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► explains it or like you do in you know like some kind of folks will will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► Lake like your dick tracey comics Road withdraw like a little arrow to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► watch and say to a wrist radio writer as well as proof of how smart we are about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► the future you know and I do kinda miss Panama now after seeing it again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► know is there any more pain a merely they were gonna be the ones that made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► to the major but they didn't yes we we don't really do that is still good right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► it was my belly and what it was but many interesting great time I do I so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► scenes that I love but did the CNN help to me is one of my favorites so when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1074">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► do what we did a reader here for the opening and there's something about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► way that the guy who plays Haywood Lloyd I don't know I know he's never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► anything but he's he's so deadpan in terms of obviously knows but he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► under plane is not overplaying it is just dont face about it and he's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► know he's not tight-lipped about it really seems like exactly the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► guy who you want and the government to trust with the single greatest secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► yeah it really does seem like the perfect guy yeah and then he does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► presentation later he doesn't really say anything to anyone right you know he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► perfect government trying to figure they still really the only guy who knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► the hell is going on even in the presentation yeah yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► yeah he's just trying to keep them in line right sort of they get it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► like just like a formality like it just just just good manners I'm not gonna not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► address you but I'm not going to tell you anything we need to address it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► you have to keep up the charade epidemic but it's a beautiful kubrick in thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► too is that you she said that the scene was myself in the Hilton and he end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► the end of that scene that we just kind of went through is where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► he accuses void of hiding the fact that they're just happened to mechanically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► base and then later he makes the presentation and he talked about what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► going on the basis of the end of the presentation shows and that's why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► so important that we keep up the appearance of an epidemic and base so at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► the moment when we first saw Floyd we didn't know why he thought about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► idea of an epidemic and later we find out what a cool caddy is because she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► orchestrated this entire cover story it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► exposition Bay Cuba because we know as little as the people in this scene we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► are like the russians in the first scene and in the second thing of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► presentation we are like the ignorant other officials from the garage area so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► it's nice we learn as characters in the film learn sort of like David hey we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► got one over on us too and then there's the you pointed out that on the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► shuttle the smaller one that goes from the space station to cuevas where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► they're wearing actually gotten on suits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► sandwiches and the guys I great presentation yeah you really fucked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► the true but he didn't do anything unless for some authors beachy gave that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► we didn't see i dont well maybe but I don't think I think it was in reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► to that presentation and I think he was just trying to be complementary to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► clearly you know to the highest-ranking guy that he's he's probably ever gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► encounters yeah but that guy you what was going on right now is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► guys at Clearview so they clearly the two people who aren't a fan of the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► the well they certainly would have hit pause by now read the complaint and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► really is that the film is tedious its TV is deliberately that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► racial there's yeah there's there's extended sequences of people doing truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► mundane things and the point of it it's almost like a deliberation on what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► mundane aspects of the future going to be almost like a painstakingly detailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► we've thought of every single thing we're gonna show it to you yeah and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► in the pacing of it it doesn't always puts me in a certain mindset where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► doesn't Jones me out yeah and and dads and moms breathing through the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1313">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► thing has sort of the Zen sort of a quantity quality too late when he opens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► please give you the explosive bolts to get back into the discovery when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► opened that hand crank door it takes for ever like he just turned it in turns it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► in turns it and turned it and we're waiting we're waiting we're waiting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► the tension is building and building a billion it's just beautiful the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► film as I mean the whole middle section at film is the most anti science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► there's like in the time it took him to open that door in most science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► films civilizations will have borne lived and died in the same time it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► to open the door to new generations of weapons will be countered that weapons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► it would have been shown to 10 minutes ago exactly it is a movie but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► alright movie is now is a lot different than it was in 1968 and most of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► over everything I would say one of the little ideas about it is that it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► a g-rated movie and surely the only G-rated movies Stanley Kubrick ever made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► yeah which i think is a little weird because I just seems to me like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► murderous robot may BPG already I mean 44 people get murdered yeah including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► Frank pool who'd I think kind of gives more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1408">TS</a>]
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00:23:36 ◼ ► than drowning right just to be in a suit knowing that you've been cut you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► had a couple seconds there before he died revenue while going to die and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► gonna float away into truly oblivion and of course the actual act expires on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1425">TS</a>]
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00:23:57 ◼ ► little thing except for the most crucial moment and that really the film that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► happens offering frame and the murder of the three crew members who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► hibernating hibernating is is something to yeah I did it was a murderers row but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► it would have been PG-thirteen but it's a dream it's a little difficult right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► and I do think that might be why they see it that way because how physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► instantiation isn't a robot isn't that a humanoid types III PLO thing is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► just a presence on the ship camera that you know he's a series of red cameras at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► a voice like you know if you want to think about it is almost like he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1474">TS</a>]
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00:24:44 ◼ ► made in the marching at us with lasers you know what I mean not turning off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1484">TS</a>]
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00:25:02 ◼ ► what Dave Bowman does then is never explained he doesn't say anything cuz he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► did only person he would talk to would be how many clearing those against it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1511">TS</a>]
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00:25:19 ◼ ► hollywood movies where he never does like a chick's ass fisted how and swears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1519">TS</a>]
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00:25:29 ◼ ► something like that you know I'm not gonna let him I'm not gonna let him go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► like that i mean clearly news dad and doing a reason he went to get him as out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► of respect for his friend in yeah I wasn't like he thought he had any hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► of saving his life he just you know he went out to retrieve his body and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► you know it's minutes long and I wonder how long that it seems is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► things I would be surprised if somebody told me it was actually twenty minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► maybe 20 minutes before he gets down the steps gets into a tiny leaves until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► time you blow through the explosive bolts to get back and that's a long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► again glacial and quiet sort of a sequence you know like even when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► blows the bowls didn't even hear the explosion attorneys like the middle east [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► Scotland idea is based on your screen like there's no sound of the explosion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► killed me sound comes as he closed the door in Harrisburg to rush back into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1583">TS</a>]
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00:26:48 ◼ ► the silence really pops the silence it's it's like you know a great visual in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1608">TS</a>]
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00:28:21 ◼ ► unsure whether it's how is malfunctioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1701">TS</a>]
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00:29:40 ◼ ► the room at the way floors and Dave Bowman and the changing of time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1780">TS</a>]
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00:29:53 ◼ ► there so that's the primordial ooze from which or something that you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1793">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► make science fiction will be held a double feature the coffee would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► six hours I could stand up everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► Spencer I don't know what kind of state of mind by then do that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1816">TS</a>]
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00:30:42 ◼ ► blogs online stores galleries on a single platform you login and you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► get to choose which parts of those things you want for your site you simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► start you start with one of their designs you can start with 18 their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1854">TS</a>]
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00:31:05 ◼ ► of thing and you have a website that looks great on every device because one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► of the things Squarespace has an all of their templates is that responsive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► design where the same thing on the same URL is optimized for the iPad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► optimized for iPhone or smartphone and looks great on a big desktop monitor all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► Squarespace accounts come with their award winning 24 7 technical support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► their cloud hosting they take care of all the hosting needs a new domain name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1889">TS</a>]
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00:31:44 ◼ ► even give you a free domain name the new thing they have this is the new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► has disintegrated store and its they caught Squarespace scholars and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► have a fully integrated door to your website and start accepting payments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► like everything else in Squarespace literally in just minutes you can sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► anything you can add a store and you get to set up what type of object you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► selling really easy store management and great options for payment I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► the inner stripe that's our primary and everybody nice tribe is just the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► way to do online cars so I mean they really took something that's a huge pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► as I mean in gym and I both know this setting up an online store and and made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► it really really easy so check them out the the URL is square space.com / the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► talk-show square space.com / the talk show that way don't know you're coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► here from the show but check them out especially if you've got something even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► think about setting up an online store that's news to check out what they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► to offer before you make a mistake and go somewhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► yeah I mean just brand new brand new and it's a whole suite of e-commerce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► features that are loaded into account so it looks cool overnight around a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► bit they're sponsoring the deck to like other smart companies very smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► companies let's talk about the deck so when I love we've been going since about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► 2002 was kind of in its infancy and then really started getting going in 2009 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► it kinda it really is a small text ads service as a sort of a proof of concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► and originally just 39 google.com and then after that I got through about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► so I think 2009 was when we might have run a little at the end of 2008 to 2009 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► would have been the first year the deck here we are in 13 years or older I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► thought it was going to be sitting in my office I can say what I remember was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2032">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► first launched with you and 37 signals and and tell them that is correct you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► are correct and you guys do boxing I think yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► 2006 and 2007 2008 2007 yes it really sort of calling sides of their enviable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► full-time and prior to that I ran into him time feels like it but prior to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► I've been selling my own totally text ads same spot where the decades are down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► fireball rose more than just text and similar model were sort of like my RSS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► sponsorship still are where 2011 spot a week one sponsor me and you were buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► those fights occasionally for Joel boxing and i dont think Ill just then so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2085">TS</a>]
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00:35:20 ◼ ► the boxing things you sponsor here but I'm gonna go with so I'm gonna start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► Brad yeah and you really hope that by John give you a week and then like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► usually are you want to be in the day I was always convinced it would work and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► believe it was at South by in 2006 where I got it was easy to talk to Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► freedom to because we shared an office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► Jason Newsted think imma do it and then I talked Jeffrey Feltman into it for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► apart and then it ran with us three as the only place where they had appeared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► for a little bit for a while I believe you were MAC store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2157">TS</a>]
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00:36:07 ◼ ► started then it then the group fairly quickly now it's going slowly but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2167">TS</a>]
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00:36:26 ◼ ► that you know that the ads work well for the audience and that is designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2186">TS</a>]
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00:36:36 ◼ ► on your site or Jason Kottke David or weeded there was some concern that our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2196">TS</a>]
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00:36:46 ◼ ► like to be so worried about that yeah and that is definitely true where was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2206">TS</a>]
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00:37:00 ◼ ► 2002 2003 2004 years nobody has your weblog nobody had any kind of ads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► then Google Adsense thing but that was just text and it was all pay per click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► and and that was controversy I mean really was controversial people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► just add like a single Google was like I don't know if completed version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► advertising at all and yeah we're more altruistic back in a young days I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► but at the same time there were always been other websites the scene at the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► york times as the ones that were not personal but but somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► you know I don't call institutionalized yeah news sites had the worst ads I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► ads that are worse than the ones you see today I mean I think like about 10 level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► advertising online was absolutely it at like the bottom right punch the monkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2273">TS</a>]
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00:38:03 ◼ ► there now to go and maybe go see it / turned off I don't know I said maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2283">TS</a>]
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00:38:15 ◼ ► we thought there is probably a better way to do display advertising that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► provide benefits for all three people in the advertising equation and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► three people in the equation I mean the publisher the advertiser and the reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► we feel we felt like we made the decade we can come up with the concept for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► delivering advertiser that would be beneficial to all three of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► that it would work because up until that point it was it wasn't it wasn't fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► with for the advertiser was for the publisher was for the reader whatever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► our content was if we put together a confederation of like-minded sites that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► we just played a single ad from an advertiser that was truly relevant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2334">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► the readership that everybody could benefit and we've never said that if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► head is in the deck we endorse it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► business but it's sort of an implied endorsement since we turn down as all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► the time since we're fairly local five and low tack and reserving a mini the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► debt is not any Brisbane programming thing and we're serving up these ads we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► have very low overhead on the network and so we deliver a lot of impressions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► for a relatively good cause so every a lot of people want to buy on the deck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► the ad from people who want to add some people we have products and services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► that appeal to our audience in a real way not just in a sort of you know I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► unconvinced that an algorithm can ever really choose relevance for advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► to a marketplace country maybe someday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► the other thing that's it's not really a direct concern to people who read sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► that are on the deck people who read during fireballer cocky they don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► understand this and and it doesn't matter but the fact is the deck has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► never paid by the page view ever the fact that was part of the concept of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2406">TS</a>]
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00:40:15 ◼ ► advertisers just paid the deck asset be in a run for the month and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► not that we don't give them traffic numbers tell them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► collectively we do this we tend to do this many page views a month or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► but if we happen to do more we do a little last month it's not if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► act right and that's the to me the biggest thing to me that's even bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► than the unobtrusive pneus of the actual physical format of the ad on page is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► that it takes away any sort of impetus to pump up your page views [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► road is no reason and it so you don't see there's nobody I know about the deck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► or takes long articles embrace them into six pages right which is truly just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► just a scam I mean I don't even use that word lightly it's a scam to to get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► that works against nobodies so the pain pay-per-view model that most of the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► of online advertising uses is bad for everybody because it's bad for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► advertiser because they're getting these numbers that don't correlate to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► they correlate to people clicking on web pages so when you go through and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► worst of it now this is the way to thats that sort of bottomed out the slideshow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► right here's twenty twenty ways that Apple could screw up the iWatch yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► you've got a click twenty times and it counts as twenty pages but that's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► good for the advertiser right because each one of those advertisers let's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► this for advertisers in the slide you they're all being charged the full price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► of the page you when it goes without saying that if I'm clicking through to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► 20 pictures in nineteen twenty pages on one page what the more you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► more valuable impression you know if if I'm involved in an article I'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► it fireball I'm reading a post from peanuts with miss or a long thread on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► Metafilter involved in the ad is there if if I pick click through and she 480 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► get four more impressions but are those impressions equal to the same person no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► course it's even worse for the reader I mean nobody ever in history world said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► you know what I like to do as I like to click twenty times to see all 20 ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► you have about Kate Upton pictures I can handle rate and it's it's no good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► the sites themselves because then they're busy themselves with trumped-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► SEO headlines there you know who feels good about taking a nice long article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► that's really a good read and chopping it up in the bits where you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► each one of those times where you make asking readers to click the thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► know that half of them are going to just drop consumer gonna drop away it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► almost heartbreaking to know that you if you've written something that really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► good I get real nice 2000 word piece it's almost heartbreaking to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► two-thirds of the readers only go to the first seven hundred words just close the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► window so it doesn't work for anybody get it like entrenched and it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► that it's the idea of displaying 5 ads on a page and counting them all as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► don't count each of those are somehow for some reason you don't count each of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► those is the fifth of an impression because of all the pressure so I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► maybe were over delivering but you know the dirty little secret of the doctors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► for the right advertiser works very well most of our advertisers Renu advertisers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► that have the service or a product that fits with sort of the mindset of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► affiliates under the deck do very well so we don't have to change all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► advertising on the web we just have to write the equivalent I N started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► equate the ads in any one medium to another like how is a TV commercial like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► a magazine that it's hard to draw the comparison but to me the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► there's five ad on a page you know the washington post or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► and they sell them all as separate page views to me it's like selling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► full-page ad in the newspaper and magazine but putting five ads on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► page right that's a good way to put it but you know what it is I often think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► often they buying a slot on the deck which buys you one slot and that by you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► three percent of all the impressions across all the sites and services in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► network for a calendar month that works out to somewhere between two and three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► million persons but buying that currently does not buying that is mozdok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► into buying a full-page in New York in a magazine is more like a magazine it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► you your ad is by itself that is not it is adjacent to content but it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► adjacent other air and it's very difficult to quantify the results that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► you get for it but if you buy the new yorker your sales go up you probably do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► the ad and you can track who sought in the new yorker will have the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► with the deck so I think the decade's worth anything at all maybe it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► like a full-page magazine ad in a magazine that it is like a TV commercial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► or like a traditional Bay Area I just wish the decade like just take over all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► the pages and the affiliate a decade really big and blot on the continent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► think readers and advertisers and appreciate their yeah like usual of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► JavaScript to make the ad march over the page and you have to shoot it before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► I'll go back to this spot and then a dialogue with his do you really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► leave the thing that I love those ladies join me this paper you don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► the Cliq is you feel like you're in the spammers embrace already lake and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► click no I don't want to leave your saying yes I appreciate your takeover ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► but if you say I want to leave you think maybe they're smart enough to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► the defaulting send you to the Florida property page whatever the advertisers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► something more nefarious Netflix still does pop under ads I don't see them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► don't know why maybe because I don't know what it's like a cat and mouse game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► I think between the browsers and the right and people who were trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► circumvent the anti pop up thing but every once and I still see him from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► Netflix and every time I see what I've been unhappy Netflix customer for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► I still am but every time I see a popular from Netflix idea in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► that maybe I should unsubscribe from Netflix just because they're using some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► of the money did too popular which are the words right now working there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► tears networking figures counterproductive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► I didn't know who I don't see no matter how do I have to admit that I used to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► blocking right sure if you are like Squarespace and you have a product or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► service that could benefit by being in front of millions of creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► intelligent curious and good-looking people you should go to the deck and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► give us a holler let me ask about another subject tell me about what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► and I were both in New Zealand so tell me about that we were there we could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► as a recording today Friday February 22nd a week ago we were together in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► serbia Chicago we were in Wellington New Zealand just about this time your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► presentation that's probably about right now though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► time different rights which is my blog right and there's this whole thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► the international dateline you cross over there there there in tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► already well it's like it now is that sort of like the end of 2001 daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► though that our friend or mutual great friend Michael lob had a birthday and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► California the nine airplane from San Francisco I was on the plane with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► we arrived in Wellington New Zealand on the 11 Michael's birthday can't so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► got gypped out of a burglar who are maybe the positive maybe the count right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► now maybe he had to say it doesn't legally bound is being a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► let's talk about the great conference where did you where did you think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► really was I went back I was there two years ago and it was such a long flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► as soon as I came back I thought that was great but never again and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► think it's like the way that you know like child bearing where it hurts in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► women say when they were going to do it again but then you feel like engineered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► to forget it's like the fights but if I remember it was such a great conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► two years ago so I jumped at the chance to go back and I thought the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► that it was man I would have loved to have been hearing and speaking just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► do think it's the best cover diver I believe what I'm conferences and i'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► never do that could never been to maybe only rivaled by 2007 2008 by before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► turned into the monster that took over the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► the thing it's a single track with a small exception it's a single check on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► to talk about 850 people there and everybody sees all the same talks in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► middle of the day there half the people who are more developers go one way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► having to learn more designers go the other way but by and large the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► singletrack conference and I have never been to a conference we're more of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► speaker set and rooted for the other speakers for me that really sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► interesting and well program conference it was that I wanted to see all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► other speakers and not just cuz I knew some of them but because I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► already know now that was sort of interesting and it's in a cool place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► well in terms of cool place it's a very cool place and it's nice it is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► nice treat every speaker but I think we're all from the Northern Hemisphere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► me i'm suppose it depends on where you count Craig modest from being from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/2993">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► disease from san Francisco is one thing but even possible Tokyo yeah but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► really nice to go from mid February northern hemisphere to February South [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► southern hemisphere I guess what is that that's the equivalent of August and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► it's not real hot it was seventy everyday was like 70 and sunny and which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► apparently is not the case and will arrange quite a bit but we didn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► any of that sort of thing where they tell everybody it's windy and rainy all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► the time to keep people away they want to share these days maybe that I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► think the singletrack nature of web stock I mean there's certainly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► single-track conference but a lot of the other single track conferences that I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► to or been to cart significantly smaller do the new one single 10 which is gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► on two years in a row in October in Montreal is about a hundred think 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► years been the hundred and eight hundred and twenty-five people are so and c4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► here in Chicago before that you know I was like a 2006 murder yeah those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► real those are more focused on Apple developers developers but now clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► Mackinac Island School in there is some dirty this website but it was more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► general developer designer broaden your mind a little bit like for example Craig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► publishing the subcompact publishing talking about Marco little bit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► magazine but also sort of general trends it was more like that it was more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► big idea and then let's break it down as opposed to this is how you clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► shopping cart israel's or whatever right and creating its Craig mobs talk is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► probably a perfect example of that where I feel like they did the name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► conference web stock implies its roots which was people making websites you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► know I think this was the seventh year that they ran three and I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► regionally was more specific about designing and building websites and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► they've gotten away from that it i mean that certain part of it but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► Craig stalk exemplified why they're getting away from that because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► not that much of a difference and if you're going to do it online publication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► gonna need web stuff and AB stuff and I did a show of hands in my talks I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► curious cuz I remember two years ago I did the same thing we know what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► people in the audience working on it was overwhelmingly websites web stuff and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► asked how many people are working on apps and I'd say easily over half the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxhpOvA/3159">TS</a>]
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