00:00:00 ◼ ► we're sorry can you remember the last time I did a live talk show i think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/0">TS</a>]
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00:00:46 ◼ ► interrupted the show and had them reopen the bars a car and they apparently did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/46">TS</a>]
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00:00:57 ◼ ► can be a problem in Ireland are still open right michael dobbs good to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/57">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► there is a tornado warning this is actually not it is totally true is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/65">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► totally true I'm told ya it's just how common or tornadoes first time that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/71">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► who's got a flight tonight I don't think they were driving me crazy if the thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/83">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► is a dramatic and you are solid but it was like every time I was looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/107">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► what you know and I could see you and I can tell that you totally screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/111">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► did not lose I use it as you call it losing the thread I did not but I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/128">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► you ever seen anybody lose the interesting to me it's what I give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/133">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► talk its have a series points and I do I do this thing now where I do write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/146">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► whole thing out in some form we're just read it but it never had just to get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/150">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► the thoughts that I have these bullet points and its I know that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► connection and the parties really weren't oh shit what's my next point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/159">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► I know what my next point but have I said I made all the jokes I want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/166">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► I did forget one Geoghan is as great as having the talk show here I can do it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/174">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► the one joke I wanted to make and I thought it literally like 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/180">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► before I was going to go on at all that is perfect it's perfect job was towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/184">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► the end of my talk I was talking about my problems with the word uncompromising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/189">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► and I wanted to say is I was gonna steal Michaels dick and say we're not you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/194">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► uncompromising I hear I don't know what the fuck I believe it to very good at is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/201">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► one of the things that we need to actually talk Apple at the conference my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/210">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► god right let's do that it's actually do it it's not news news I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/217">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► maybe like 10 days ago but it it's been an airplane stuff but Ron Johnson former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/222">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► head of Apple Retail left like two years ago became the CEO of JCPenney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/227">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► department us' department store chain I got fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/234">TS</a>]
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00:04:03 ◼ ► audience members they probably don't see store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/243">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► nothing in particular no yeah exactly so nothing particularly noteworthy about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/249">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► suffering because the price war and run into and then nowhere near as cheap as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/254">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► wal-mart and doesn't look at is is more upscale but not truly upscale not like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/263">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► don't know which change you guys know but like Macy's and Bloomingdale's or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► nordstrom's you guys probably don't know but North sounds like the best not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/274">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► a game between like they didn't know if they were discounted in know if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► nice the other big thing that they did and they were almost famous for in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/282">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► retailing I missus defied learned after Ron Johnson to the job at the JCPenney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/288">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► had in all seriousness like two hundred and seventy-five sale like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/292">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► so that's practically every single week day there'd be a new sale where this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/300">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► 40 percent off and that's 30% off and that the only people who effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/304">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► shop there were people who are like looking for bartenders so what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/309">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► think I have some questions why why do you think he left to go there in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/315">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► first place I don't i didnt work with ramen I was really really smart guy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/320">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► I need my story I tell myself it's just like you kind of like built in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/325">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► retail giant stores like time to go do something something different right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/329">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► there was no scuttlebutt about like him as a problem there he was like he was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/335">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► a lot of dance when Apple team like Greece will transition and JCPenney also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/339">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► probably a lot of people know but biographical your job career wise before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/347">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► Apple he was at Target which was very successful so he was really wasn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/358">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► the success of Apple it was like to street retail successes target and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/363">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► apple and then it was just like I mean we were talking about this before is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/368">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► like what happened right is one of my theories that he didn't have the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/372">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► that was going to walk people into the stores JCPenney what do you know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/378">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► if you know anything about it was like what is the thing you go to an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/382">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► store if you want to do whatever it was he didn't have that thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/385">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► compelling thing to get you walk in the front door so I was one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/389">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► that I just screwed right out of the gate with you don't have that can cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/393">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► then I think you could say that that Apple Retail stories all starts from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/398">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► that foundation here's what we have these great products that we're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/403">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► proud of people want and will build everything else around that go into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/408">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► Apple store their famously this is well known as a build-up to museums right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/414">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► talked about this last load built up a museums are big huge wide open spaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/419">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► butcher block table it's everything is about being honoring the product right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/424">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► and walking in there is this museum to the art building up there and see how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/428">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► you do that when you don't actually have that product you got like to show off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► thats seems like one of the things he was struggling with target is is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/435">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► the opposite direction i think is targets like the sort of story go to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/444">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► everything right target you from paper towels to you know a new basketball I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/448">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► mean even so groceries and stuff there now and so it's sort of the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► problem they don't have to focus on anything but I feel like Jesse pennies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/459">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► when they close the various parts that they don't have any unique thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/462">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► the same terror levi's there you can get the other one but whatever he was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► I mean do you think you had a good game and no I don't I feel like I i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/472">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► what happened to really weird and they weren't doing is true I mean and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/477">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► you know eventually you've gotta pull the plug on a CEO change but I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/481">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► thing that's so bizarre is that they fired and replaced him with the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/486">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► was there before so like you know effectively their board it wasn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/491">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► we are at work will hire you when I hired him two years ago we're gonna try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/495">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► we're gonna buy into your radical ideas to really change this company because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/502">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► need change because we're not doing that and in two years later they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/506">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► let's go back to where we were right which day no such state of South right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/509">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► we like our old sub as well i mean the stock was down like what fifty-one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/515">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► percent or something like that I mean so disaster right but still it's like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/521">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► long they take apple to get back to you I'm happy state it was in ninety-seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/524">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► and 2002 the game along right that's a very good comparison like how long does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/529">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► it take to turn around a big company that's gotten itself in the deep rut and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/536">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► apples are graded example so two years after Steve Jobs came back with 99 right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/541">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► so there's still two years away from the iPod no iTunes I mean effectively were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/546">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► just selling max that were blue instead a page right i mean you know Pakistan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/555">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► was still two years out it was in the works but you know it's the branding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/560">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► campaign think different thing was going to say it up i mean this is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/564">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► that was amazing to me that Apple as you go in like a 97 video Q&A after one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/568">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► the events after one of the events and he sits down and he answers questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/575">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► and their hostile Hasan opened I ask me whatever you want and ends at the toll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/582">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► at heart an hour and a half answering questions and if you go from now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/593">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► look at that taught you know all of the things he was thinking about going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/598">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► networked like a cloud of the sort of thing he was really sketching it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/601">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► then did it for the next ten years but it really took that long to get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/606">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► it's an amazing talk because you said you know I can't believe he's talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/610">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► about this in 1997 because he's describing you know like iPad and iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/614">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► today but it really took that long to get there and and you know I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/619">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► JCPenney is not exactly an apples to oranges comparison with apple computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/624">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► right sorry but obviously it's a very different business but I still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/629">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► though that a lot of those things that take so long it takes long in any case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/635">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► you know and and brand awareness is definitely one of them you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► that's the thing that JCPenney was fighting with this idea that no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/643">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► really was nobody's favorite store right now and to change that I think two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/647">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► now that I think it's interesting but they were going to get someone got to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/651">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► that the old CEO is a political battle that someone would you like a frank back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/657">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► the old stuff that makes you think I have no idea could be told him but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/662">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► makes me think that there was somebody you never run a Ron Johnson there in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/667">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► so here's a question i've gotten from a surprising number of readers by email I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/671">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► don't know how to answer because i dont game but you might have to do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/677">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► there's any chance now that run Johnson would go back to Apple AAPL actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/683">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► doesn't have a retail chief right now I have no insider knowledge but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/686">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► makes total sense given the exit seemed like it was clean and in battle or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/691">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► sort of stalling so but it seemed like it was clean so given that the other guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/695">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► to find out it seems like it would be a surprise right and I do think in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/704">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► is unusual for someone like once you go to CEO once your title is CEO it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/708">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► pretty rare that you're ever gonna get another idol other than maybe chairman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► or something you know you don't go back to being senior VP except Apple's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/718">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► of a weird company where I feel like a plan or didn't so successful that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/724">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► senior vice presidents are sort of on par with CEOs of companies would make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/728">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► wouldn't surprise me but again as a what is why did you leave in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► was a big challenge to Apple retail right now it's everywhere right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/736">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► know what is that next to go and do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/744">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► let me take a break and wanna thank the first of our sponsors and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/749">TS</a>]
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00:12:49 ◼ ► new app status now I showed you this and this is the truth you guys I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/769">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► actually think I'm full of it or not but I showed this to you before I knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/774">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► they were sponsoring the show and well first I said oh they did tests for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/777">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► so yeah that's sort of what is everybody knows I a long time ago patent published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/784">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► a blog post where they showed their little internal in their office this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/790">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► status borden it showed like bug counts as unread messages in this report states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/793">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► right really cool and of course it's panic so is beautiful everybody loved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/798">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► when they had the brilliant ideas and we made this and realize it was making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/803">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► product and we did and it's great new iPad app that lets you make your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/806">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► status ports and it's sort of like Lego like widgets where you can just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/810">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► these precise things like one of them you can hook up to an email account or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/816">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► one of them you can hook up to a Twitter feed you have to come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/820">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► you can get obvious stuff like weather stuff like that and it's extensible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/824">TS</a>]
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00:14:00 ◼ ► coding and work but the preset stuff alone is going on that so we've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/840">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► about the the eye right product have sort of you you have the idea actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/846">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► identify a beautiful product in outside of Apple which companies do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/851">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► have the ability to like build quality products obviously panic is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/856">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► but what are the other ones you like whoa it's almost like when you finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/861">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► you can customize and maybe that's what you want to do is set up an iPad and run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/867">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► it but it also does airplay video out see you that's not a TV show that the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/885">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► you can hook it up to a giant sixty-foot plasma thing in your office or your home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/892">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► or whatever and have you know totally cool absolutely in the App Store you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/897">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► their website panic dot com slash status board I'll bet if you just go to panic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/905">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► not comin home page there's a big probably really cool animation to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/911">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► me sick it's 10 bucks in the app story and it is amazing amazing deal who else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/916">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► who has that hi laurin trigger yet learned richter definitely not the guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/923">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► letter press refresh you hire is there anyway I was worried that he's building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/928">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► a team you know how the top by guys right and then there's obviously he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/939">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► super strongly opinionated but they know like they have their athletic in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/950">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► head and they know they know and when they've got it right to shortlist put me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/957">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah iContact iContact ya names out at sea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/966">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► you see I would say only group makes great software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/978">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► no I'm neither makes great software but I don't look at it like when we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/983">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► about the I it's it's it's a certain look at it and to me on the group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/986">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► software does not jump out and that way it's great for software doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/990">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► that like final degree of Polish you know the panic guys it's like cables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/994">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► like it's working on that one round corners like just a great director yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/999">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► yes yes yes so is a good example and i think thats exactly and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► this is the lingo that Michael and I used talking about the eye and so is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► great example where they had kaleidoscope and then what else did so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► fast versions right the version control at all and that is all that super that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► actually a super panicky thing to do is panic even though they make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► friendly very very attractive AB some of them are super nerdy like FTP app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► working on FTP absence like 1997 super nerdy thing file transferred as UNIX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► servers right and they let's do it really really pretty versions is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► example of that sort of thing let's take one of the nerdiest technologies in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► world version control and let's make it really look at it and you look at other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► GUI version control apps I mean I mean I'm not saying they're bad but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► they look like command line up brought to light tower is it is a great app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► that's another one that is the same sort of approach but the sofa guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► interesting because what struck me was and I think they're still on the hunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► but but the guys who've the acquisitions that Facebook has made over the last two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► years or so have largely been specifically about what you and I called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► the I Mike Mattison the push pop press guys made it is exactly like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► you can tell that they had a lot to do with the Facebook home thing is Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► mattresses thing is this version too but he really wants he really thinks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► whole touch screen thing should have a few buttons as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► and so the Facebook thing doesn't have any buttons like it's actually interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► you think about it like no no it doesn't you just drag your little avatar around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► me maybe that counts is about them but you don't just happen everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► motion stuff but I do think that that but but I actually think that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1123">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► sort of some of the stress inside the only group when he was there because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► was a co-founder and he was there for a long time but I feel like he wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► go and that's delicious directions visually this exuberant visual design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► and it didn't fit with the rest of the way the only group wanted to make stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► which is a little bit more straightforward exuberant is the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► that comes to go back to a political backed out but here's the other thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► want to talk to you about so there'd been no product releases from Apple this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► yeah this is the one that April 14 April for what is what is actually this two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► things that worry me there's April 14th and nothing has come out there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► but the other one that worries me is the buzz machine about the next thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► whatever that might be talking about either i mean there's the watch but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► was kinda goes watch ok maybe but it's like to me there's a dearth of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► gossip going on right now that worries me what do you think I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► think it's definitely curious I think part of it is they really do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► generally I think want to have stuff on a somewhat annual schedule and they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► having a new version of the iPhone every year last three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1252">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► first one the original event was at the end of February but it can come out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► the first week of May four years in a row and roughly March but what they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► last year was they had this we're going where they did 16 months after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► previous one and I do feel that at a certain level it's just as simple as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► well in general would like it to be annual but when we're ready we're ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► you know and if the one phone took 18 months and threw them off this June [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► schedule well so be it we're gonna wait to get it right and if they also could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► do and new generation iPad just six months later after the other one where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► they're not going to wait wait wait because you know their competitors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► done away but in hindsight as we keep going and there's been no new iPad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► margin makes me think that one of the reasons they put that iPad with the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► dock connector out last year a new is going to be on the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► blogger yeah I don't know it seems it's it's it's it's it's curious to me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► the other way that I have is it's the thing that they have to prove to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► entire planet they have to be able to do that new thing without steven has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► everything that's come out it's been derivative of an existing saying whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► it's a mini is clearly came from the game plan that first new leg on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► right but until you see that it was kind of like I do think it's a coincidence I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► just think it's coincidental timing but I think it's very bad timing for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► that they've hit this dry patch but maybe just a part where nothing is ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► yet at a time where perception was out in the world there is an awful lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► see they can't do it without incident I do think it's a coincidence but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► it's really unfortunate one because I feel like now is when they realize a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1374">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► a week ago I carry a part in the March within just what the doctor ordered for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► the company do you think we were here is a question do you think now that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► gotten through April and it doesn't look like anything's coming in April who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► knows maybe got an email saying I don't think so where's Jim Jim 108 here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► talking Apple do you think that we've gotten through and clearly the iPad new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► iPad coming out in the schedule the last few years with a sneak it in in May [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► before WWDC or is it like if not now wait for WWE is talking about cuz we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► collectively have these long conversations at like it somehow I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► how it leads to other people but like little bit since it's coming out and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► start having this conversation W three days now and I have any conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► about right so that that tree buzz generating think whether it's deliberate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► or not doesn't currently exist so to me that means there's nothing imminent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► that's gonna be then maybe they're just maybe like he was talking about on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► whatever he was on sixty minutes maybe he's really clamped down and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► liked it down which would be amazeballs but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► but I do your word and that would be great but you know i mean bigger it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► would be the first time for everything else there's it's not the news been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► an explicitly we sort of built together the picture over the like two months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► before it actually arrived well it could be up to tell whether the tabloids a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► good example beware somehow it was I think it was it was the timing of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► that Steve Jobs was on a medical leave of absence and came back in the summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► and it was just somehow everybody at apple just sort of knew that Steve's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1495">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► back and what he's doing is the tablet right he's committed to it and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► from summer until February and that's when they shipped it was the iPad so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► nobody knew exactly what it looked like there were no screenshots that leaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► the hardware leads yet nobody really knows everybody you know is it going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► be going to be this size is gonna be this size is going to be picked is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► to be then nobody really knows that they did keep that under wraps but the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► that they're working on a tablet was no I mean that everything exactly we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► like some approximation of what it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► and right now we're talking about wages and I think I thought to the white thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► to watch thing I I don't really think that it might just be like to joke like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► somebody at Apple is obviously told a few reporters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► Bloomberg somebody was a greater sources close to the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► 200 hundred johnnie over 200 engineers working on a watch and it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► hundred engineers are really really think it so maybe like a joke to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► Samsung to make watching pink and black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► you know like Tim Cook is like talking to him and they're like what we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► another factor here in simpson's using it to make watches and then they like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► really kind of thing and then when the stories came out to everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► talking about and and news is you know i watch Techmeme top stories about it bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► i watch is in any way to really were story I'm not making enough where it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► like so many Google was walking on watches to their very smart watches out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► of this rumor that Apple is I really don't think it's wearing a watch right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► what do you think the single biggest problem with the whole idea of a balloon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► launches you go into a real watched or there are like one side mens watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► other side ladies watches and there's a reason for that right why what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► happening to you don't go out and buy a lady's iPods and iPads right they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► products that make products that appeal to everybody and see how you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► with a watch me before I don't think they are really good at building fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► items and I think they any company could build something which would be universal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► appeal to so maybe I'm just like the imagination to imagine a universal watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► but you agree though that they'd only do 10 yeah I've never done this before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► my other theory on is that it's just the new iPod Nano maybe it comes with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► wrist strap could be a problem I see with this is the display technology as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► do wear a watch but that's because I want to glance at my wrist and I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► see the time immediately right now and I do not want to turn down so I the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► that people where the old iPod Nano is a watch kinda cool looks cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► would drive me nuts so you gotta hit a button to turn it off but like a bright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► colorful LCD screen will suck the battery right can't leave it on so then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► like the pebble guys are using you can treat it like you know what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► there I can see the interesting things being on the screen but it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► more complex and thats should be simple case that I haven't yet imagined I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► imagine that if there really is smoke to this fire it's it may well be at thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► you put on your risk but is not a watch right right right stop thinking of it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► a watch in terms of race and there's tons of opportunities we also run apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► rights we many awesome I'm emails will have the product that they've had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► longest run without a release macro exactly this is our audience right these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► are guys around in Xcode and 17 display right and it actually matters so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► you know I looked it up before the show started the last Mac Pro was released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► and 2001 been 12 years give or take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► right when I think its 2009 2008 and had like upgrade last year there was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► but it's still the same ideas to the cheese grater it's so much better you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► look at an hour after you looking like the American like that is but it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► expandability people who I remember and this is what I will when I really get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► touch with the demand for the the Mac Pro is when I'm hanging out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► developers truly truly line if they say they came out with the top of the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► Intel best chips intel has best fastest thing they could make tomorrow not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► really fast enough is it really a true truth about writing code in doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► certain really you know Photoshop and stuff like that I remember at WWDC last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► year people coming up to me and they'd be like hey Johnny do you think I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► even buy one in certain countries in Europe anymore right because did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► you guys are going out there is a new law that passed about what is it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► right but it's all there is no longer compliant with the laws for making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► computers in the EU and demanded yes I do you think it's the thing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► about it is it's there so into what they've learned with the iPhone and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► iPad you can even see them back in the areas of simplicity you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► have to configure it and it hurts like is right and that that that world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1915">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► something that they're not modeling for a model for everything you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► it's perfect right just go with it so I'm sure that there's a lot of people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► be very clear about that I used to run part of the Pakistan 17 so we love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► take her stuff but it's not it's this is in his worries people as it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► not as much to go on and that's moving away from that and I think it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► shows how even though Apple you know by market cap is biggest company world's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► second biggest doing really well as an incredible head count even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► subtract all the retail people big big company it's gotten bad but they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► run like most big companies where there's these glow divisions within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► company and any other company or the way people would think out will be run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► there'd be somebody who runs the Mac Pro division and the Mac Pro division would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► only make macros and so they're going to keep coming out with them on a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► basis because that's the whole you know if they don't they're they're gonna lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► their jobs and there isn't anybody like that of Apple and its like they've only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► got so much attention and their attention is clearly not on Mac Pro yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► there's demand out there but I would buy a new Mac Pro right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► let me just take a break right now me thank our second sponsor for the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/1996">TS</a>]
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00:33:58 ◼ ► dogged code who here has written code to do credit card processing who here wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► who hear whatever want to write code to do grow our process and nobody over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2043">TS</a>]
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00:34:17 ◼ ► they do all the compliance with all the crazy laws they have to do when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► doing credit cards and it really just couldn't be easier and the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► they have is a huge selection of great template that you can choose from two to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► set the look of your site it is so much easier to get started with a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► looking website today than likely mean you were installing Perl scripts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► movable type in 2002 and you can customize it all too so if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► know code you can set it all up just by clicking and looking into figuring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► out and you can just look at it visually and if you do no code you can customize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► everything so my thanks to Squarespace for sponsoring the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2093">TS</a>]
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00:35:40 ◼ ► sign up they'll say hey you wanna coupon code and they're gonna save you a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► money you type into the talk show for Lexus alright I'm actually done this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2144">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► the last show and I'm out right now but in Word home is where the audience we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► here at that will come from Dublin Ireland with the accent the right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► have to hold down the three key on the keyboard to get it it's very confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► it's Sunday now you know you can just hold down the EU nao posso you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► new thing and the Mac is like the iPad where you can do you like I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► dolly's side of you did you memorize a bunch of keystrokes for some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► weird characters myself here I still remember all the WordPress and WordPress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► that's perfect wordperfect I know I can imagine that that's how is ingrained in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2214">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► the ones that I have are the ones for curly quotes apostrophes in quotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► because it's not a hard programming challenge but it was it took it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► until eight the year 2004 like smart clothes to become like usable and layout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► application so if you did any kind of graphic design you'd never typed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► apostrophes and questioned the shift command control bracket oh yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► used to I used to do it and Twitter now died phone makes it really easy you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► hold the key and then you can slide over and get the curly quote but I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► tape Fairley's in my tweets by hand that way and then tweet but added it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► future and it was like such a hassle it's so much nicer did you take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► yeah we speak together a couple conferences year I've never conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2272">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► yeah it's really time we see exactly have never actually been in a scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► where your house is rooming houses and everybody we've all been and I tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► I can get it you know but everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► you work their place but all the speakers keep emphasizing my god what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► thank you to Paul and determine what a great conference but why the women there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► is something going on here like everybody just says it's great and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► all seem to acknowledge it's great and it really does seem like the attendees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► are happy but what is it I i cant quite I'm not quite sure I see what this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► to do with the I they were talking about earlier which is sort of attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► detail that they have to do is like you know you can sense by the typography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► that they care about its not just thrown together it's like oh this is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► bit but you know it's it's it's that sort of thing that close altogether so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► when you're looking up at like I was commenting on the projector from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► event twenty by forty screen is that right and just like great looks great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► attention to detail that I think it's one thing on the great speakers and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► yeah these figures are great choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► another thing I thought I was blown away by the year over year I know I said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► when I was on stage but that last year was great and the fact that I came back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► is proof that I thought it was good and worth coming back to you but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► can't believe one year over another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► how much improved and I do feel I feel like it suited that level of attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► to detail is suited to the audience of people making apps for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► obsessive-compulsive pixel perfect designs of course we're gonna wanna come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► to the conference where they sent a guide to Japan to find wood to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► logo right everybody here is a great I was really well done these are nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► bhajan any ground real-world house at a conference in the senate go to Japan to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► find little chips would kind of an asshole here seem normal that it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► sense at the time when I get your parents really far away from where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2452">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► badges result was sort of a sensory sort of papers and also if it does seem you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► know it seems perfectly suited to this city the right conference in the rates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► are you feel a little bit of the right nerds like these are people who care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► you know I love being a double so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► by Iran's by yesterday I would remember but what time was it for you and i three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► years now have pondered the idea may be jointly producing a conference oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► yeah don't like talking a lot of drinkin and it's you know there's no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► probably know but it's a great idea right but one of the big ideas we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► done a lot of thinking and talking over where would we have been part of it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► really stems from South by Southwest yes which is the first place we really were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► wright also haven't been back in a few years it's kinda used to be amazing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► be truly amazing was bigger than all but in the early days the web part of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► closed in a spirit you know and and really the same sort of interactions in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► the same sort of friendships are formed from that you know and the same type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► speakers and the same sort of I just saw somebody give it talking in right after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► that a talk that even better but also part of what made South by Southwest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► great with Austin Austin was great yes we talk that up until one idea we had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► almost back to the professional show before we thought about what we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► and we've mentioned this to people I work to do in a tech conference might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► have the biggest and then it's bifurcate right right so we say Michael I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► thinking maybe we were doing in Vegas and then having people are like where do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► I send my money and the other half the grossest thing I've ever why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► do that do it anywhere else have it anywhere else in the world why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► want me to go there it's a fake city city that's the thing about it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► the people first of its really easy to get there any from the state you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► there really easily but I think there's it's just it's built out of the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► of the desert and there's like you know some of our favorite places to speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► just soaking in their culture in Vegas right now it's beautiful and I love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► there but it's like you're like wow this person just threw up on my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► well one of my favorite stories about Vegas and it's a new thing is there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► new breed of panhandlers but people trying to hustle money on the street and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► no no no no no not those guys know but the old one was still there is people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► who are wearing illegal no copyright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► mickey mouse to bed like this really gross looking like really gross like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► clear you know obviously Disney is not selling the real Mickey Mouse costumes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► to people to dress up so it's a it's just like roseanne my eyes are dead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► then you see someone letting they're like little sweet little three-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► girl who is this the same thing in Times Square New York they have these guys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzMzDP4/2693">TS</a>]
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