40: A Look At Mail In Cyberdog
00:00:00
◼
►
so in the news this week it seems that he does one of the things that's come up
[TS]
00:00:04
◼
►
it seems like this is the week I don't know maybe it's just me maybe just what
[TS]
00:00:07
◼
►
I read this week but it seems like this is the week where everybody is sort of
[TS]
00:00:10
◼
►
come to the conclusion that Windows 8 is failure
[TS]
00:00:15
◼
►
yeah I was actually thinking about that too and it's not that it's not that
[TS]
00:00:20
◼
►
literally nobody is buying it at all
[TS]
00:00:24
◼
►
not a Vista times a hundred million people have bought or something like
[TS]
00:00:28
◼
►
that yeah a large number of people but it seems to me that you know this is one
[TS]
00:00:33
◼
►
of those things where Microsoft s too not just kind of approach expectations
[TS]
00:00:39
◼
►
but has to far exceed expectations in order to be thought of as really doing
[TS]
00:00:45
◼
►
well and you know Windows Phone is a is a similar example and I posted about
[TS]
00:00:50
◼
►
this many times which is you know that's not this is not a place where they can
[TS]
00:00:54
◼
►
just do okay this is so important to the future of Microsoft that just doing ok
[TS]
00:01:00
◼
►
is is a massive failure here and in only huge success would be you know is the
[TS]
00:01:06
◼
►
only acceptable solution there so i i think thats exactly what we're seeing is
[TS]
00:01:11
◼
►
that it's it is pretty good and it's pretty popular but that's just not good
[TS]
00:01:15
◼
►
enough especially as you know the PC market itself heads into the into the
[TS]
00:01:23
◼
►
toilet basically and in the future of what you know what you know if this
[TS]
00:01:29
◼
►
trend holds up the shift to tablets and mobile devices you know the share of
[TS]
00:01:35
◼
►
Windows on those devices is you know single-digit or low double-digit
[TS]
00:01:40
◼
►
that's not going to work for the best for the biggest software company in the
[TS]
00:01:44
◼
►
world you know they can sure that they have the enterprise business and and all
[TS]
00:01:49
◼
►
that sort of stuff which which could very well be a large profitable business
[TS]
00:01:53
◼
►
for Microsoft but hard to see that being as big or as dominant as Windows was you
[TS]
00:02:00
◼
►
know now more than ten years ago
[TS]
00:02:03
◼
►
yeah and I i think i kind of I nailed half of it two years ago when they first
[TS]
00:02:10
◼
►
announced Windows 8
[TS]
00:02:11
◼
►
wrote a piece about how it's the title but some about how it was a bad idea to
[TS]
00:02:16
◼
►
compete against the iPad and my argument and I think has proven to be exactly
[TS]
00:02:21
◼
►
right is that the appeal of the iPad is is largely based on all of the things
[TS]
00:02:28
◼
►
that it can't do because it makes it so simple and having a system where you
[TS]
00:02:32
◼
►
have all the complexity of windows and a simple interface over there to the side
[TS]
00:02:37
◼
►
isn't gonna do it and I think that's proven right now only and that but
[TS]
00:02:43
◼
►
that's only really half the story which is that Windows 8 wasn't going to be
[TS]
00:02:47
◼
►
competitive against the iPad in this new space of tablet devices the part that I
[TS]
00:02:54
◼
►
didn't think about and it just died I just never really occurred to me was
[TS]
00:02:59
◼
►
that it was going to also proved unpopular as a PC operating system for
[TS]
00:03:04
◼
►
people using it on desktops and traditional laptops right which actually
[TS]
00:03:10
◼
►
makes complete sense when you think about it i mean you know my my the
[TS]
00:03:15
◼
►
reason I still do all my work on a Mac and iOS is that there are certain
[TS]
00:03:21
◼
►
functions that lend themselves very well having a keyboard and trackpad shifting
[TS]
00:03:26
◼
►
between many windows at a time being able to go and look at an old email
[TS]
00:03:30
◼
►
while I'm writing a new email those are things that I OS does very poorly and
[TS]
00:03:35
◼
►
that the Mac still does extremely well and I certainly wouldn't want to run iOS
[TS]
00:03:39
◼
►
on my Mac at least not anytime soon so I could see how that would kind of cloud
[TS]
00:03:44
◼
►
the windows experience to rate now is that metro or what you know what used to
[TS]
00:03:51
◼
►
be called Metro isn't really something you want on your desktop and all Windows
[TS]
00:03:56
◼
►
is definitely not something you on your tablet so I just never really thought
[TS]
00:04:01
◼
►
about that other half of the story and the thing that I keep seeing I've seen a
[TS]
00:04:04
◼
►
couple of stories this week and I believe it is that a lot of people get
[TS]
00:04:08
◼
►
it and honestly they have trouble putting their computer to sleep or
[TS]
00:04:12
◼
►
turning the computer off because they can't figure it out because the only
[TS]
00:04:15
◼
►
thing they've ever known what to do is go to the start menu
[TS]
00:04:18
◼
►
you and that's where you go to shut down and it's it's actually that all you know
[TS]
00:04:22
◼
►
everybody used to make fun of it is how do you shut down Windows computer go to
[TS]
00:04:26
◼
►
the start menu right which is kind of linguistically counterintuitive but
[TS]
00:04:31
◼
►
everybody knew to do that and now that the Start menu is gone nobody knows how
[TS]
00:04:35
◼
►
to help a shot off their computer and that's it right but I understand why
[TS]
00:04:42
◼
►
because think about the iPad right there how do you shut off the iPad within the
[TS]
00:04:46
◼
►
software there is no way because it's you know it's this one cohesive it's
[TS]
00:04:51
◼
►
it's not it's not just operating system it's a device and so they put this big
[TS]
00:04:56
◼
►
obvious power button up in the corner and thats you just tap that but if you
[TS]
00:05:05
◼
►
just put it in your purse without turning it off and then her style me but
[TS]
00:05:09
◼
►
that was me national yeah so you actually can do that though if you just
[TS]
00:05:20
◼
►
put your iPad in your purse or whatever without turning it off it will shut off
[TS]
00:05:25
◼
►
in a couple minutes it will it will mean unless I guess unless you leave it lets
[TS]
00:05:29
◼
►
you leave it streaming Netflix little oriental accidentally do stuff like call
[TS]
00:05:36
◼
►
me or something but I used to call it the pants style in fact there's there
[TS]
00:05:41
◼
►
was like my pride of age 25 I think when I was working at forbes was saying the
[TS]
00:05:46
◼
►
term pants dial on CBS Radio that was confused enemies but right pants is
[TS]
00:05:55
◼
►
obviously one of the one of the best words in the English language because
[TS]
00:05:59
◼
►
nobody will argue that is anything you know it's even vaguely scandalous but
[TS]
00:06:03
◼
►
there is something vaguely inappropriate about it it's funny it just sounds and
[TS]
00:06:08
◼
►
looks funny it's a great word senses that Letterman's production company
[TS]
00:06:12
◼
►
Worldwide Pants the greatest in the history of the universe like that
[TS]
00:06:21
◼
►
the other I guess the flip side of this thing with Windows 8 is this is it
[TS]
00:06:30
◼
►
official this is the thing I'm not a hundred percent on it has Microsoft
[TS]
00:06:33
◼
►
officially come out and said that the Start menu is coming back there are no I
[TS]
00:06:38
◼
►
haven't hit following that it seems as though people you know in the know like
[TS]
00:06:42
◼
►
Mary Jo Foley and and other you know really well sourced Microsoft reporters
[TS]
00:06:48
◼
►
are saying it and it seems like you can bet money on it but that there's going
[TS]
00:06:52
◼
►
to be one of a kind of Windows blue and i know i think they did officially said
[TS]
00:06:58
◼
►
it's slated for later this calendar year it's going to come out sometime in 2013
[TS]
00:07:01
◼
►
but that is going to have a preference that and I guess OEM can turn it on by
[TS]
00:07:08
◼
►
default to boot to the traditional Windows look on if that's appropriate
[TS]
00:07:13
◼
►
for your device is this like a service pack or something like that I mean yeah
[TS]
00:07:17
◼
►
I think it's in between you know I don't think I think you know it doesn't really
[TS]
00:07:23
◼
►
fit and you know it's like an in-between update its not like a point one update
[TS]
00:07:28
◼
►
but it's not like a major new version of Windows Update you know it's a big
[TS]
00:07:32
◼
►
service com service packs anymore and it kind of got away from that but that that
[TS]
00:07:37
◼
►
song with the the cover band thing ruined it I don't know the Vista sp1
[TS]
00:07:42
◼
►
song constantly Bruce Springsteen cover band well I think that makes sense I
[TS]
00:07:52
◼
►
mean if if people are saying hey look we you know we don't really care that much
[TS]
00:07:56
◼
►
about how Windows works but don't take away our start button I think that maybe
[TS]
00:08:01
◼
►
a fair compromise I mean the idea that Windows 8 is going to be some fast
[TS]
00:08:07
◼
►
change in how Windows works and how people think of it obviously is not
[TS]
00:08:13
◼
►
going to the ideal plans and also isn't the guy who kind of design all the stuff
[TS]
00:08:21
◼
►
gone anyway so why not so you know perfect opportunity for Microsoft ago
[TS]
00:08:26
◼
►
alright well those guys are gone we're gonna we're gonna fix windows and make
[TS]
00:08:30
◼
►
it the way that that you and I both love it or something like that
[TS]
00:08:33
◼
►
yeah you know you never know though from the outside you know who knows maybe
[TS]
00:08:39
◼
►
Sinofsky actually didn't wasn't endorsing the idea of making everybody
[TS]
00:08:45
◼
►
see Metro as their default look you never know maybe in Austin argument and
[TS]
00:08:50
◼
►
maybe that's partially why he left you know but you get the feeling that it
[TS]
00:08:53
◼
►
probably was his idea cuz he you know his reputation had a lot of control over
[TS]
00:08:57
◼
►
it I really like your old idea which was that they should have made something
[TS]
00:09:01
◼
►
that you know that maybe even only booted on a Mac at first and just new OS
[TS]
00:09:06
◼
►
that you know the people could get excited about it didn't have all the
[TS]
00:09:09
◼
►
baggage and that would be a way for them to to really move forward without having
[TS]
00:09:14
◼
►
to support you know thirty years of stuff and it seems like it could have
[TS]
00:09:19
◼
►
been cool you know I maybe I would have even install it where it's windows 8 I
[TS]
00:09:24
◼
►
just have no curiosity about it at all and it seems like the surface is
[TS]
00:09:29
◼
►
basically you know they copied the wrong iPad seems like something that would
[TS]
00:09:35
◼
►
have been may be interesting a few years ago but I my old idea I came up with
[TS]
00:09:42
◼
►
this with my friend Jason Hoffman is the Yankees CTO at Joint years ago I mean I
[TS]
00:09:48
◼
►
think the time to do it would have been years ago like around 2008 or so but it
[TS]
00:09:52
◼
►
was it was all stemming from that picture that picture that was widely
[TS]
00:09:56
◼
►
circulated at the college class it was like a college lecturer and 97% of the
[TS]
00:10:03
◼
►
kids in the room had a Mac notebook in front of them and there's I one poor kid
[TS]
00:10:07
◼
►
enough run with it or something like that
[TS]
00:10:10
◼
►
and it was you know I forget with just you know some random University in the
[TS]
00:10:16
◼
►
middle of the country and it was in any kind of there is no particular reason
[TS]
00:10:19
◼
►
why it should be the Apple centric and now it was yeah it wasn't anything like
[TS]
00:10:25
◼
►
that was just like you know I can 101 and kids taking lecture notes you know
[TS]
00:10:29
◼
►
and it just showed how overwhelmingly popular Apple notebooks have become an
[TS]
00:10:35
◼
►
RA deal was that what Microsoft should do is they should just put together put
[TS]
00:10:41
◼
►
one guy in charge
[TS]
00:10:42
◼
►
let him pick a hundred engineers take a hundred engineers go off and be like you
[TS]
00:10:47
◼
►
know like the Mac team was in nineteen eighty-four put a pirate flag up and
[TS]
00:10:51
◼
►
make their own new operating system and do whatever they want they want to start
[TS]
00:10:56
◼
►
with Linux instead of the Windows kernel let him do it you know do whatever you
[TS]
00:11:01
◼
►
under the hood for compatibility they could use something like VMware you know
[TS]
00:11:06
◼
►
that type of thing Microsoft even has something like that and let it run
[TS]
00:11:09
◼
►
Windows in an emulation layer you know like classic classic Mac OS was if you
[TS]
00:11:15
◼
►
wanna meet their Microsoft they can do whatever they want with Windows right
[TS]
00:11:18
◼
►
situation want to put Windows compatibility thing let him do it if you
[TS]
00:11:23
◼
►
but go you know go blue sky and tell everybody wants you really see it that
[TS]
00:11:28
◼
►
this is not the new version of Windows this is a new thing we're still
[TS]
00:11:31
◼
►
developing Windows Windows is on its own track there's you know Windows the next
[TS]
00:11:36
◼
►
version is coming right out we're you know we're just working on the future of
[TS]
00:11:40
◼
►
this thing and then the brilliant yet brilliant idea I think would have been
[TS]
00:11:43
◼
►
if if as a beta you said and as the beta it only runs on Macs just because then
[TS]
00:11:49
◼
►
you have this small target of hardware to to to support any idea would be to
[TS]
00:11:57
◼
►
try to get people who you know young people and curious people to you know
[TS]
00:12:02
◼
►
play around with it I think the opportunity for that was over because
[TS]
00:12:07
◼
►
this point if a Mac can be the best computer to run Windows why can't a Mac
[TS]
00:12:13
◼
►
also be the best PC right now that's exactly true and I you know there was
[TS]
00:12:17
◼
►
just that polio other week that came out where somebody you know I forget it was
[TS]
00:12:20
◼
►
but it wasn't like a Mac publication it was a good some PPC publication but that
[TS]
00:12:24
◼
►
you know that Max hands down we're like the best Windows machines you can have
[TS]
00:12:32
◼
►
the best the best experience running Windows 8 is on a Mac or MacBook or
[TS]
00:12:36
◼
►
something like that she never even had the time I say the time for that his
[TS]
00:12:40
◼
►
passes because a new operating system that runs on PCs is chasing the wrong
[TS]
00:12:46
◼
►
chasing the wrong train you know you got it you know the future is with these
[TS]
00:12:51
◼
►
post-pc things and the opportunities gone for that sort of
[TS]
00:12:55
◼
►
backdoor try to get Apple people to switch and go back because you can't as
[TS]
00:13:01
◼
►
far as I know I don't think you could make an operating system that ran on
[TS]
00:13:04
◼
►
iPads you know it's to their too tightly coupled with the hardware firmware and
[TS]
00:13:10
◼
►
stuff like that and the operating system is hardly the you know the the main
[TS]
00:13:15
◼
►
advantage there it's the way that the operating system in the content
[TS]
00:13:19
◼
►
ecosystem and all those things work together now it's not just that you can
[TS]
00:13:23
◼
►
replace the OSI mean to some just to the advantage of some companies a facebook
[TS]
00:13:28
◼
►
is using you know the fact that they don't have to replace Android to jump
[TS]
00:13:34
◼
►
onto those phones but yeah I mean I would even if I could install Windows 8
[TS]
00:13:40
◼
►
on my iPad I don't think I would it just doesn't seem like something I want to do
[TS]
00:13:44
◼
►
like the curiosity just isn't there but if they had done something all new 3 45
[TS]
00:13:52
◼
►
years ago I would have jumped on it at least it to play with it
[TS]
00:13:56
◼
►
yeah actually wanted to ask you about something
[TS]
00:14:01
◼
►
ok I know we want you want to talk to me about Netflix will do that in a bit but
[TS]
00:14:04
◼
►
I i've been thinking about something that is is kind of bigger picture and
[TS]
00:14:09
◼
►
you know for the last several weeks I've been thinking like all write a post
[TS]
00:14:14
◼
►
about this someday but I just don't have time I'm too busy with city notes now my
[TS]
00:14:18
◼
►
travel startup so I think I've been thinking about is you know this is kind
[TS]
00:14:27
◼
►
of the big picture with Apple which is why are people why has Apple done so
[TS]
00:14:32
◼
►
well over the last few years and what what can we learn from that would help
[TS]
00:14:37
◼
►
us determine whether it's going to continue to do so well over the last
[TS]
00:14:41
◼
►
over the next several years and there are several reasons why people continue
[TS]
00:14:46
◼
►
to buy Apple stuff you know for people like you and I have used Macs forward
[TS]
00:14:51
◼
►
for the last ten fifteen twenty years it's because we know them well and we
[TS]
00:14:56
◼
►
you know and we've used the marlboro lights in world oil to them to some
[TS]
00:15:01
◼
►
people it's the quality of products
[TS]
00:15:03
◼
►
but I think there's also a population and I don't know how big it is but
[TS]
00:15:07
◼
►
people who you know if you look at those great a simple charts of the the growth
[TS]
00:15:12
◼
►
of the iPad being so much faster than the growth of the iPhone which was so
[TS]
00:15:17
◼
►
much faster than the growth of the iPod and Mac and it's it's the people who've
[TS]
00:15:21
◼
►
joined Apple the most recently that's maybe the biggest population and and I
[TS]
00:15:26
◼
►
wonder how loyal they'll be and I wonder if what attracted them to Apple is not
[TS]
00:15:31
◼
►
necessarily the quality or the legacy but just that its new and and cool and
[TS]
00:15:39
◼
►
you know how sustainable is that and that's kind of what I've been wondering
[TS]
00:15:43
◼
►
is you know that people often say all Apple needs a disruptive new product or
[TS]
00:15:47
◼
►
or a new product category or something like that and then the response of them
[TS]
00:15:51
◼
►
is well we got to in the last in the last five years and three in the last
[TS]
00:15:55
◼
►
decade i mean that's asking a lot to have another one so quickly after that
[TS]
00:16:00
◼
►
but but maybe that's what people are looking for they're looking for that new
[TS]
00:16:04
◼
►
that sense of newness and and not to say that Apple's necessarily in a fetish
[TS]
00:16:09
◼
►
state but that people maybe aren't so tied to the experience for the quality
[TS]
00:16:16
◼
►
but they are attracted to that sense of newness and I was curious what you
[TS]
00:16:20
◼
►
thought about that is a good question I mean I think you know traditionally
[TS]
00:16:25
◼
►
Apple's customers have been exceedingly loyal almost extraordinary so and and I
[TS]
00:16:30
◼
►
think you can easily make the case that it's their customer loyalty that saved
[TS]
00:16:36
◼
►
them at their low point in the mid nineties when you know before the next
[TS]
00:16:42
◼
►
acquisition and etcetera it was the loyalty of the people who remained that
[TS]
00:16:46
◼
►
saved them because there was you know enough people to buy oh you know a
[TS]
00:16:51
◼
►
million or so max quarter for a few years until they turn the ship around
[TS]
00:16:55
◼
►
you know which was not that big a number compared to the whole PC industry but
[TS]
00:17:00
◼
►
you know a million two thousand or so dollar computers per quarter is enough
[TS]
00:17:05
◼
►
money to keep apple you know alive
[TS]
00:17:08
◼
►
and now when they're selling about 40 30 40 50 million iOS devices a quarter
[TS]
00:17:18
◼
►
something like fifty fifty five million iOS + iPod so price sixty million
[TS]
00:17:25
◼
►
quarter roughly and you know obviously that fluctuates with the holiday quarter
[TS]
00:17:29
◼
►
and with a big you know it combined with the fact that the holiday quarter has
[TS]
00:17:34
◼
►
now seems to be the new device quarter so it fluctuates but that's huge and
[TS]
00:17:40
◼
►
that's really at a radically different number than the million or so max that
[TS]
00:17:45
◼
►
they used to sell order how how loyal are those people that's a good question
[TS]
00:17:52
◼
►
I don't know I think that they're probably pretty loyal I think they're
[TS]
00:17:58
◼
►
more loyal than those in most companies customers and last loyal then the the
[TS]
00:18:06
◼
►
traditional Mac user base like I think it's because if you look at all of these
[TS]
00:18:12
◼
►
devices Apple has ever sold I would not be surprised if something crazy like 90%
[TS]
00:18:18
◼
►
of them have been sold in the last five years I just made that number up but
[TS]
00:18:22
◼
►
that would I think it probably does work out like that really do even in the last
[TS]
00:18:27
◼
►
ten years or something like that or or something like that I think it's heavily
[TS]
00:18:32
◼
►
front-loaded in the last couple of years and the other thing too especially in
[TS]
00:18:37
◼
►
the last five years the at you know the iPhone to iPad era is really the first
[TS]
00:18:42
◼
►
time when you would think most of their customers have multiple devices because
[TS]
00:18:47
◼
►
before the iPhone you know there were certainly professional people who had
[TS]
00:18:53
◼
►
but the desktop Mac and the Mac Book you know go back
[TS]
00:18:57
◼
►
PowerBook and iBook for every you know however far back you go but you know
[TS]
00:19:03
◼
►
normal people usually only have one computer I mean that's you know
[TS]
00:19:07
◼
►
computers you know especially with a further back in time you go the more
[TS]
00:19:10
◼
►
expensive they were right and so now i think is the you know I wouldn't have a
[TS]
00:19:15
◼
►
quite right and a proforma right where you would replace one and it would be on
[TS]
00:19:21
◼
►
use it for as many years as you could
[TS]
00:19:24
◼
►
whereas now I think that there's sort of an expectation that the typical Apple
[TS]
00:19:31
◼
►
user has both an iPad and iPhone and if they do by you know if they do switch
[TS]
00:19:37
◼
►
from Windows they're gonna buy a Macbook right if you look at the trailer at the
[TS]
00:19:42
◼
►
airport it's a it's a MacBook and an iPad and iPhone sitting on top of each
[TS]
00:19:46
◼
►
other which theoretically you know especially if I club does its job should
[TS]
00:19:52
◼
►
force loyalty you know not force it but you know should encourage loyalty and
[TS]
00:19:59
◼
►
that was one of the things that people thought about the App Store that all I
[TS]
00:20:02
◼
►
got my phone I'm not gonna switch away you know because you know if I get
[TS]
00:20:09
◼
►
Android then I won't have any of my apps or something like that but it's funny I
[TS]
00:20:13
◼
►
was sitting in a bar with a with a good old friend of mine who you know it a PC
[TS]
00:20:18
◼
►
and high school and probably has a Mac date as Mac now and as an iPhone he's
[TS]
00:20:23
◼
►
like i think im to get rid of this iPhone and get a Samsung and I'm like
[TS]
00:20:26
◼
►
why would you do that I don't know yeah you know there was most of the people I
[TS]
00:20:34
◼
►
would guess that had windows in the PC era where it didn't have windows because
[TS]
00:20:39
◼
►
they thought it was great
[TS]
00:20:40
◼
►
or because they loved it they just had windows because it was what you know is
[TS]
00:20:44
◼
►
what you would get some of them you know for app compatibility or office or a lot
[TS]
00:20:50
◼
►
of it I think was the the cost Windows PCs row is much cheaper but now you know
[TS]
00:20:56
◼
►
he likes his iPhone got no problems with it but it's like maybe I'll get a
[TS]
00:21:01
◼
►
simpson I don't know why I just thought that was interesting it and a lot of the
[TS]
00:21:06
◼
►
people who have bought Apple stuff again you know if it's something crazy like 75
[TS]
00:21:10
◼
►
to 90 percent who who were first time Apple customers in the last five to 10
[TS]
00:21:16
◼
►
you know what if what if they drift a little I don't know now that that's out
[TS]
00:21:21
◼
►
there are certainly more people on the planet left who have not become Apple
[TS]
00:21:25
◼
►
customers left and those who have so and that's why you see all the stuff that
[TS]
00:21:29
◼
►
they are doing in China and and no maybe not so successfully in other places like
[TS]
00:21:35
◼
►
India but but I know that's something I was thinking about it I was tryna come
[TS]
00:21:40
◼
►
up with a you know with a post to do it kept getting to log in my head just talk
[TS]
00:21:46
◼
►
about it then I have to write anything I did a lot and I think that there is a
[TS]
00:21:51
◼
►
big difference with the App Store versus what Windows software was at the heyday
[TS]
00:21:57
◼
►
of windows monopoly which is that at that point there was a real
[TS]
00:22:01
◼
►
compatibility problem where you know just take the office stuff well you know
[TS]
00:22:06
◼
►
if you had you know . doc files and Excel files it was really really hard to
[TS]
00:22:15
◼
►
get by if you had to expect get them somebody who you work with was going to
[TS]
00:22:20
◼
►
give you one and you had to use the tracking changes thing in word or
[TS]
00:22:24
◼
►
whatever it was almost impossible when still might really be effectively
[TS]
00:22:28
◼
►
impossible even today to get by using anything other than word you really
[TS]
00:22:35
◼
►
needed it was that was the software that we used to have that would convert PC
[TS]
00:22:41
◼
►
files to Mac files I forgot the name of it I know but it never worked good no I
[TS]
00:22:46
◼
►
mean it would work enough that you could read it but it didn't work well enough
[TS]
00:22:49
◼
►
to seamlessly interchanging go back and forth you know without Apple the Mac
[TS]
00:22:58
◼
►
floppy drives could read PC discs and write them but the PC once couldn't read
[TS]
00:23:03
◼
►
and write Mac disk so I was even operating for a while using my Mac with
[TS]
00:23:08
◼
►
PC formatted floppy disks just so I could get them to a friend at school or
[TS]
00:23:13
◼
►
something like that that was so it wasn't just said that the office
[TS]
00:23:17
◼
►
wouldn't run on the Mac it was that you needed for me conversion software and
[TS]
00:23:23
◼
►
the right format of a floppy disk
[TS]
00:23:25
◼
►
to transfer that file whereas now days you know you just throw it on Dropbox
[TS]
00:23:29
◼
►
sir you know a lot of its even just web based there are no files are you know
[TS]
00:23:34
◼
►
jpegs are very cross platform right like software as a whole has moved to being
[TS]
00:23:42
◼
►
just friends to services and formats that are standard and all just come in
[TS]
00:23:48
◼
►
over the air by HTTP right i mean it's like if you switch to Android you still
[TS]
00:23:53
◼
►
can get Instagram and you're still gonna get your Facebook and Twitter and you
[TS]
00:23:57
◼
►
can still hook up your email and you're still going to browse the same web and
[TS]
00:24:02
◼
►
you know I don't think I mean I think that you know the software as a whole
[TS]
00:24:08
◼
►
list all janky
[TS]
00:24:10
◼
►
it's nowhere near as nice but you don't really miss out you know you can just if
[TS]
00:24:16
◼
►
you just if you like if your friend dropped his iPhone in the toilet
[TS]
00:24:20
◼
►
you know make the decision tomorrow and he just as I can help them just gonna go
[TS]
00:24:24
◼
►
with the Samsung it's you know there's not it's not like when you switch from a
[TS]
00:24:29
◼
►
Mac to a PC and you've got this huge hassle of moving over 60 gigabyte hard
[TS]
00:24:33
◼
►
drive and all these files in learning about how the four you know you don't
[TS]
00:24:36
◼
►
have to worry about any that you just you know it distorted go with it and
[TS]
00:24:40
◼
►
just assume that most of your shit is in the cloud anyway and you know and not to
[TS]
00:24:45
◼
►
disparage anyone but I kind of assumed that most people don't necessarily
[TS]
00:24:49
◼
►
notice or care that much of the difference in the software giant penis
[TS]
00:24:54
◼
►
to begin with that certainly didn't really hold windows back I think that
[TS]
00:24:59
◼
►
they notice it but I don't think it's the deal breaker that it is for picky
[TS]
00:25:02
◼
►
people like us right yeah I think that they notice it but that's just not a
[TS]
00:25:07
◼
►
deal breaker same thing with build quality of the funds I think everybody
[TS]
00:25:11
◼
►
can kinda tell that like a sista Samsung in particular because for example
[TS]
00:25:15
◼
►
everybody you know it's you know we're seeing a really weird things I think
[TS]
00:25:20
◼
►
we'll see how the results go but everybody seems to acknowledge that just
[TS]
00:25:24
◼
►
leave the iPhone out of it take the whole Apple vs Android politics out of
[TS]
00:25:28
◼
►
it everybody seems to acknowledge that the best Android phone on the market
[TS]
00:25:31
◼
►
today is the HTC One that is a better hardware
[TS]
00:25:35
◼
►
it looks certainly looks way nicer it's a very they do they're very beautiful
[TS]
00:25:39
◼
►
devices and even the software looks better it's just seems you know it just
[TS]
00:25:43
◼
►
seems much more tasteful design and it's not south
[TS]
00:25:47
◼
►
you know it does it seem like Samsung is still gonna win because the dynamics of
[TS]
00:25:52
◼
►
that are not being better alone is not enough to see almost seems to be in the
[TS]
00:26:00
◼
►
position Apple used to be in a long time ago where they're designing better stuff
[TS]
00:26:05
◼
►
but they're not just not gaining traction yeah although unlike Apple I
[TS]
00:26:10
◼
►
don't think it's something that they can easily take themselves out of 10 for
[TS]
00:26:15
◼
►
Apple they know they made it work well and so it gets back to your question of
[TS]
00:26:20
◼
►
how loyal the people I maybe loyalties the wrong way to think about it and I
[TS]
00:26:24
◼
►
think that I think the traditional problem that Apple used to have was that
[TS]
00:26:29
◼
►
people just didn't even consider buying back it just didn't enter their brains
[TS]
00:26:35
◼
►
they just didn't have the mindshare this mass market you know people even
[TS]
00:26:40
◼
►
considering it and I've said this before and I've still never been able to find
[TS]
00:26:44
◼
►
the URL to it but it was a long time ago it was in the nineties and so I think it
[TS]
00:26:48
◼
►
was even Apple maybe even commissioned the survey but it was you know an exact
[TS]
00:26:53
◼
►
numbers don't really matter but the gist of it was though that in the in the
[TS]
00:26:58
◼
►
personal computer market meaning not not the enterprise people buying computers
[TS]
00:27:02
◼
►
for themselves
[TS]
00:27:04
◼
►
I was like like 90% of all consumers never even considered buying a Mac and
[TS]
00:27:13
◼
►
of the 10 percent who did half of them did buy a Mac and that was like where
[TS]
00:27:18
◼
►
Apple's 5 percent market share came from was that like so they only have like
[TS]
00:27:22
◼
►
five percent market share but it was fifty percent of the people who even
[TS]
00:27:27
◼
►
considered by a Mac and they just could not break through and get more people to
[TS]
00:27:31
◼
►
even think about it and clearly you know that's no longer problem for them
[TS]
00:27:36
◼
►
and that's why their market share has has done so well and so I don't know
[TS]
00:27:42
◼
►
that loyalties it I think that the reason I think the reason that Apple is
[TS]
00:27:45
◼
►
in pretty good shape for the that say the next five years is that at the very
[TS]
00:27:50
◼
►
least almost anybody in the markets where they're strong like North America
[TS]
00:27:58
◼
►
and Western Europe if you're in the market for a new cell phone in the
[TS]
00:28:06
◼
►
market for a tablet or at least gonna think about an iPhone or iPad right
[TS]
00:28:11
◼
►
there's a level of awareness that's that's different now but you know is
[TS]
00:28:16
◼
►
that is that fashion or is that you know legitimate awareness of a product I
[TS]
00:28:23
◼
►
don't know why it seems like there could be an element of a fashion involved
[TS]
00:28:28
◼
►
where people got iPods and Macs because they were cool or because you know
[TS]
00:28:34
◼
►
people are using them I don't know I don't know I don't think it's gonna be a
[TS]
00:28:41
◼
►
significant upheaval or anything like that but I do question you know just how
[TS]
00:28:49
◼
►
kind of tight and everyone is right and there is like the stickiness today and
[TS]
00:28:55
◼
►
and you know the the the equivalent of like you know where people were tied the
[TS]
00:29:00
◼
►
windows in the long ago days because you had to have word had to have Excel you
[TS]
00:29:03
◼
►
needed something I could read these puppies you needed a computer that could
[TS]
00:29:07
◼
►
hook up to exchange in your office and so it had to be windows like it's not
[TS]
00:29:12
◼
►
the operating system anymore that's people are tied to but they're tied to
[TS]
00:29:15
◼
►
things like their gmail account right because nobody who has twenty thousand
[TS]
00:29:20
◼
►
emails in Gmail and who enjoys using Gmail is gonna switch to something else
[TS]
00:29:24
◼
►
so they're only going to use their only alibi device that Gmail works well how
[TS]
00:29:31
◼
►
sticky is iCloud for people like that like I don't think the App Store's the
[TS]
00:29:35
◼
►
sticky thing I think I cloud is the thing that needs to be sticky
[TS]
00:29:38
◼
►
people need to be addicted to having their photos in photostream the same way
[TS]
00:29:44
◼
►
that you can type in your Twitter and Instagram credentials on any you know
[TS]
00:29:48
◼
►
anything
[TS]
00:29:49
◼
►
days and have you know your whole history there in front of you that
[TS]
00:29:53
◼
►
should be the goal for iCloud and you know as as has been well documented I
[TS]
00:30:00
◼
►
would say that's going questionably so far I sent you a link though if you see
[TS]
00:30:05
◼
►
it yeah I do so this this is something that I like you said Apple had this
[TS]
00:30:10
◼
►
thing called the Mac advocate program where this is from 1997 you would go on
[TS]
00:30:16
◼
►
their website and sign up for these CD roms and they would send it to you for
[TS]
00:30:22
◼
►
free I think I ordered the maximum which was like 10 of course I still have like
[TS]
00:30:26
◼
►
seven of them left and they were pretty amazing they were full of Apple
[TS]
00:30:32
◼
►
propaganda ranging from this video of Guy Kawasaki welcoming you and he's
[TS]
00:30:39
◼
►
basically they weren't hyper cards but they kind of seemed like them almost
[TS]
00:30:44
◼
►
PowerPoint presentations about why are you can convince your friends to buy a
[TS]
00:30:48
◼
►
Mac graphics are hilarious like really cheesy stock videos maybe you should run
[TS]
00:30:54
◼
►
the show notes that there is such a thing but I recently found this when I
[TS]
00:31:00
◼
►
went back home to Chicago and and I booted up my sister's old blue iMac and
[TS]
00:31:07
◼
►
took a bunch of screenshots of it and posted it last year so this is pretty
[TS]
00:31:11
◼
►
great stuff on here and all the Apple commercials and it'll of course the
[TS]
00:31:16
◼
►
video busted here's bill gates talking about the Mac how awesome it is this is
[TS]
00:31:22
◼
►
the best thing the very best again as a look at the new but this is great this
[TS]
00:31:25
◼
►
it's a slide this is why Apple is the best choice
[TS]
00:31:28
◼
►
ease of use and it's true that it was you could make you should have been able
[TS]
00:31:34
◼
►
to make an ease of use argument but their their example
[TS]
00:31:37
◼
►
is it simple to increase the performance of software applications by selecting
[TS]
00:31:41
◼
►
more memory right from the desktop and it's that old thing if people are going
[TS]
00:31:46
◼
►
to believe this if they didn't use the classic Mac OS but what you would do is
[TS]
00:31:50
◼
►
select the app in the Finder do get info and part of the info panel for the app
[TS]
00:31:55
◼
►
was memory requirements and there is a suggested size from that at a minimum
[TS]
00:31:59
◼
►
size in a preferred size and you can edit the minimum and preferred size and
[TS]
00:32:04
◼
►
that was how much RAM the application got like when you launch the app it got
[TS]
00:32:09
◼
►
as much RAM as you the user assigned to it which is it's insane to think that
[TS]
00:32:16
◼
►
that's how the Mac used to work and it's even more insane it's quadrupling in
[TS]
00:32:21
◼
►
saying that Apple was advertising that is a feature in 1997
[TS]
00:32:28
◼
►
go in and get Photoshop more RAM and takes them away from wordperfect her or
[TS]
00:32:32
◼
►
whatever it was it really good apps I can I think Photoshop is on but I know
[TS]
00:32:37
◼
►
BBEdit BBEdit is part of the reason to be it was so brilliant was BBEdit you
[TS]
00:32:42
◼
►
didn't give more memory BBEdit somehow was smart enough to be able to allocate
[TS]
00:32:45
◼
►
memory on its own
[TS]
00:32:47
◼
►
on the fly from the system heap so it actually was bad to give BBEdit more
[TS]
00:32:52
◼
►
just let BBEdit have its default which was really low and then it would open it
[TS]
00:32:57
◼
►
would it would grab more memory on its own and let go of it when you close big
[TS]
00:33:00
◼
►
documents and I think photoshop work like that too but one of them and it was
[TS]
00:33:05
◼
►
either Photoshop I think our quark also had a separate memory section in its own
[TS]
00:33:09
◼
►
preferences file where you could set some of that stuff was photoshopping it
[TS]
00:33:15
◼
►
was with the scratch disk space to
[TS]
00:33:17
◼
►
but this is great looks like someone went nuts with power tools or something
[TS]
00:33:22
◼
►
yeah forty percent of people surfing the net using a Mac and great like 3d
[TS]
00:33:28
◼
►
graphic anyway this is something I think it's hard to believe that these graphics
[TS]
00:33:33
◼
►
came out about yeah and this was like and I had there there was a follow-up is
[TS]
00:33:38
◼
►
like a second disc but it wasn't really wasn't as good as it's actually kind of
[TS]
00:33:42
◼
►
cheesy like it's it's pretty funny and this was after jobs came back to things
[TS]
00:33:48
◼
►
they did look at mail in cyber dog yeah I mean I hate to laugh at Cyberduck
[TS]
00:33:54
◼
►
because the whole show on cyber dog Bieber should some day but it never
[TS]
00:34:00
◼
►
really shit like nobody ever really got to use cyber dog I never never used it
[TS]
00:34:06
◼
►
in fact I'd forgotten about it until I saw this I remember cyber dog as like
[TS]
00:34:14
◼
►
you know it at the time may be one of the worst things
[TS]
00:34:18
◼
►
you know who knows if Apple to suffers again going forward it probably won't be
[TS]
00:34:24
◼
►
in any way a mirror of what happened Apple in the nineties but one of the
[TS]
00:34:27
◼
►
many problems without bond in the nineties was that they would repeatedly
[TS]
00:34:31
◼
►
hype something that was supposed to come a year later and never actually came it
[TS]
00:34:38
◼
►
was never you know thanks to paraphrase Yoda you know never your mind on where
[TS]
00:34:45
◼
►
you are whatever the hell you to tell salute you know it was never about what
[TS]
00:34:48
◼
►
Apple actually had for you to use and buy right now
[TS]
00:34:51
◼
►
was always like this great new operating system Telligent you know our cyber dogs
[TS]
00:34:57
◼
►
we're gonna write revolutionize email and web browsing but not yet gonna come
[TS]
00:35:00
◼
►
next year and in the meantime you know you've got this web browser that's
[TS]
00:35:05
◼
►
nowhere near as good as you know what you can get on Windows right well and
[TS]
00:35:12
◼
►
that's kind of where they seem to have done a 180 and now kind of lead the
[TS]
00:35:16
◼
►
world it not over over hyping stuff and not announcing stuff until it's ready
[TS]
00:35:20
◼
►
whereas pretty much everyone else is still
[TS]
00:35:24
◼
►
especially at the video game guys like their six levels of of teasing before
[TS]
00:35:28
◼
►
you get to before they ship video game console that kind of stuff which seems a
[TS]
00:35:34
◼
►
little ridiculous but it does let me take a break and me thank our first
[TS]
00:35:38
◼
►
sponsor our first sponsor is mail route
[TS]
00:35:43
◼
►
email is still just mentioned in email still the number one form of business
[TS]
00:35:48
◼
►
and personal communication on the internet and according to them and I
[TS]
00:35:54
◼
►
believe this ninety percent of every single email sent on the internet as
[TS]
00:35:58
◼
►
spam I wouldn't be surprised that it's higher so male round now this is a team
[TS]
00:36:03
◼
►
that originally created Microsoft Forefront they put together they have a
[TS]
00:36:08
◼
►
great service
[TS]
00:36:10
◼
►
really really need super simple all you do is you point your domains MX records
[TS]
00:36:15
◼
►
if you have your own domain name you point the mail records at mail route and
[TS]
00:36:19
◼
►
now route points it back to you
[TS]
00:36:20
◼
►
takes about a second so your email goes through them first then goes to your
[TS]
00:36:24
◼
►
server takes about a second on average per message so what one second delay on
[TS]
00:36:29
◼
►
your email
[TS]
00:36:29
◼
►
big deal
[TS]
00:36:30
◼
►
you know of any hardware to install any software install all you do is have your
[TS]
00:36:35
◼
►
email go through them first before it goes your server and they take out all
[TS]
00:36:39
◼
►
the spam and it works it is fantastic
[TS]
00:36:44
◼
►
you can go there and check it out see all the details of how they do it they
[TS]
00:36:48
◼
►
have some great write-up about like the greatest thing they do this is it's a
[TS]
00:36:51
◼
►
super clever feature what they do with the greatest thing is a good mail server
[TS]
00:36:58
◼
►
a real mail server one that sends legitimate mail like let's say you're
[TS]
00:37:01
◼
►
the mail server on the one sending email I send mail to you you can say to me hey
[TS]
00:37:06
◼
►
I'm busy right now try again in a minute and a good mail server that sending the
[TS]
00:37:10
◼
►
mail that's normal it handles and says oh ok a minute later send the email
[TS]
00:37:14
◼
►
again they do that for the first time you get an email from any recipient the
[TS]
00:37:19
◼
►
reason it works is that all of these bots that are out there the PCs that
[TS]
00:37:24
◼
►
have been hacked and are in these botnets and they're sending all this
[TS]
00:37:27
◼
►
damn they're not hooked up to handle that they just send the email and keep
[TS]
00:37:31
◼
►
going on so they never handle that sort of thing where the receiving server can
[TS]
00:37:36
◼
►
say hey send this message again in one minute and then I'll take it that alone
[TS]
00:37:41
◼
►
filters out a whole bunch of the junk so if you've got like an email account on
[TS]
00:37:44
◼
►
your own to me that you host that is just like inundated with spam all this
[TS]
00:37:49
◼
►
man coming gotta take a look at me they have a 15 day free trial so you can't
[TS]
00:37:53
◼
►
lose anything
[TS]
00:37:55
◼
►
trying out for 15 days see if it works and if it doesn't you can just switch
[TS]
00:38:01
◼
►
right back and you'll hear no worse for the wear you haven't even lost $1 15 day
[TS]
00:38:05
◼
►
free trial but I think everybody who tries it if you have your own domain if
[TS]
00:38:08
◼
►
you have any kind of spam that's getting through India inbox try mail route and
[TS]
00:38:13
◼
►
it works great
[TS]
00:38:15
◼
►
here's where you go to find out more go to mail route and may I L carro ute
[TS]
00:38:20
◼
►
dotnet / the talk-show mail route dotnet / the talk show queen Oprah 15 day free
[TS]
00:38:29
◼
►
great great service
[TS]
00:38:31
◼
►
do one thing do it well that type of service really really good stuff and I'm
[TS]
00:38:36
◼
►
always fascinated by how few I think there'd be more services like that that
[TS]
00:38:41
◼
►
plugins his mail such an open thing that plugin and you know do a lot of smart
[TS]
00:38:47
◼
►
stuff on the server side and then presented to you in your in your inbox I
[TS]
00:38:54
◼
►
would think so it is crazy can you imagine launching the service today that
[TS]
00:38:58
◼
►
was like that's like email like where anybody who just knows your name can
[TS]
00:39:04
◼
►
just send you stuff it in hindsight it is just kind of insane and it just shows
[TS]
00:39:09
◼
►
how naive you know the the old internet you know from the seventies and eighties
[TS]
00:39:15
◼
►
really was right it would never happen now because the cup that companies are
[TS]
00:39:20
◼
►
you know and so in control of their like how many decades it at eight just to
[TS]
00:39:25
◼
►
open up instant messaging between various services yeah able to aim
[TS]
00:39:31
◼
►
someone on Gmail or something like that I don't know I did the genius of these
[TS]
00:39:36
◼
►
guys and I really encourage everybody's go check it out enriquez it's
[TS]
00:39:39
◼
►
fascinating to see how they describe attacking but I really like to think
[TS]
00:39:43
◼
►
that to me it was a real eye-opener is that they're not just analyzing the
[TS]
00:39:46
◼
►
messages you know and like doing a Bayesian analysis of the content of the
[TS]
00:39:50
◼
►
message to see if it's pam is that they're they're trying to identify the
[TS]
00:39:54
◼
►
machines that are actually sending spam which ended you know it seems like most
[TS]
00:39:59
◼
►
of that spans all coming from these these hacked PCs and that it they know
[TS]
00:40:03
◼
►
they've figured out ways to figure out hey this is not a legitimate mail server
[TS]
00:40:11
◼
►
yes sir I recently got silent I was respectfully staying quiet during their
[TS]
00:40:18
◼
►
so Netflix yeah there was a big story in business week and then on Netflix and
[TS]
00:40:30
◼
►
how well they've been doing and you know it by all accounts not just you know and
[TS]
00:40:34
◼
►
and apples example that the stock market doesn't necessarily tracked actual
[TS]
00:40:38
◼
►
success of the company but Netflix is done really really well in the
[TS]
00:40:42
◼
►
in the time after that the tobacco when they when they know when they first
[TS]
00:40:47
◼
►
tried to dump the mailing disk thing when they try to get out of the disc
[TS]
00:40:53
◼
►
business and spin that often and at stock price tanked and the customers
[TS]
00:40:57
◼
►
relieving and ever since then they're really doing great the stock is way up
[TS]
00:41:02
◼
►
used you know your ships way up there people are signing up so here's the stat
[TS]
00:41:07
◼
►
from business week is that on a normal weeknight Netflix accounts for almost
[TS]
00:41:10
◼
►
one-third of all internet traffic entering North American homes more than
[TS]
00:41:15
◼
►
YouTube Hulu amazon.com HBO Go iTunes in BitTorrent combined who knows about
[TS]
00:41:24
◼
►
actually truly but it's you know I've seen a lot seems you know and it seems
[TS]
00:41:28
◼
►
like it's probably a legit statistic
[TS]
00:41:31
◼
►
yeah I guess I mean maybe BitTorrent surprises me a little but I guess that
[TS]
00:41:36
◼
►
that is always been kind of a an edge activity like not a mainstream thing and
[TS]
00:41:42
◼
►
to me it makes sense I mean that's Netflix is the mainstream long form
[TS]
00:41:48
◼
►
video service on the Internet like you know you'll watch YouTube for a couple
[TS]
00:41:52
◼
►
of minutes and a low bit rate so it doesn't matter how much bandwidth to
[TS]
00:41:57
◼
►
using but Netflix you will watch for hours in high def and you know that
[TS]
00:42:04
◼
►
makes sense to me what else is the bandwidth it's it's not like it's
[TS]
00:42:07
◼
►
possible bandwidth usage period its actual usage so it's not like you know
[TS]
00:42:16
◼
►
the potential capacity of all home internet connections in the country its
[TS]
00:42:21
◼
►
actual downloads so yeah and you know and have another factor too is that
[TS]
00:42:26
◼
►
they've done a really good job of working out partnerships with just about
[TS]
00:42:33
◼
►
anybody who has a set-top box that plugs into a TV right there on Apple TV there
[TS]
00:42:41
◼
►
on I think they're on PlayStation and PlayStation think so they're they're on
[TS]
00:42:48
◼
►
pretty much all those every brand of television every game system I think
[TS]
00:42:53
◼
►
they're even on the
[TS]
00:42:53
◼
►
now right every every tablet every every phone you know basically anything with
[TS]
00:43:01
◼
►
the screen can play netflix which is something that I don't think any other
[TS]
00:43:06
◼
►
service has has approached that level of ubiquity certainly not iTunes because
[TS]
00:43:12
◼
►
Apple won't put it on anything that's not made by Apple and Amazon is not as
[TS]
00:43:18
◼
►
widely distributed so I guess the one that would surprise me as YouTube I
[TS]
00:43:22
◼
►
quite as in you to do more but I think they're trying to but I think it's
[TS]
00:43:29
◼
►
because YouTube people think of YouTube is a place where you go and watch 24
[TS]
00:43:33
◼
►
minute videos you know right
[TS]
00:43:35
◼
►
music videos in cat riding a skateboard and and shit like that whereas nobody
[TS]
00:43:41
◼
►
really thinks I'm gonna go watch a feature film or or a show I mean and
[TS]
00:43:46
◼
►
obviously I think a big part of Netflix's success is thats where people
[TS]
00:43:49
◼
►
go to bend you watch shows you know I'm gonna go get into homefront
[TS]
00:43:56
◼
►
I don't really know pump runs on Netflix but if you do probably is
[TS]
00:44:02
◼
►
you start watching Netflix and that's where these out you know forty
[TS]
00:44:06
◼
►
eight-minute TV show episodes come in and then you watch the next one and then
[TS]
00:44:11
◼
►
the next one so I think that's where I wouldn't be surprised if people watch
[TS]
00:44:15
◼
►
more individual videos from YouTube but that's not as much aggregate video right
[TS]
00:44:22
◼
►
and YouTube is trying to get more into the longer form stuff but not like it's
[TS]
00:44:28
◼
►
their only goal because actually their their business model you know show a
[TS]
00:44:32
◼
►
bunch of ads works better with short form i think im said interrupting a
[TS]
00:44:37
◼
►
movie eight times get someone to watch 24 minute videos or something like that
[TS]
00:44:43
◼
►
and then you could put an add between all of them
[TS]
00:44:45
◼
►
whereas Netflix you know is a subscription-based service they're happy
[TS]
00:44:49
◼
►
to have you watched an unlimited amount of video as long as you're paying near
[TS]
00:44:53
◼
►
eight bucks a month I was skeptical about Netflix when their stars deal
[TS]
00:44:59
◼
►
collapsed as the stars thing was where stars as like this sort of obscure at
[TS]
00:45:07
◼
►
least to me is sort of HBO type cable channel where they have like HBO where
[TS]
00:45:13
◼
►
they have feature films and they have original programming but stars has
[TS]
00:45:18
◼
►
feature films and and good ones too they had all the Disney stuff right like a
[TS]
00:45:25
◼
►
big a deep archive of old movies that they had the right exactly like lots and
[TS]
00:45:31
◼
►
lots of old Disney movies actually wrote a post 10 stars movies to stream on
[TS]
00:45:36
◼
►
Netflix before they go away and there was like Scarface Toy Story 3 mallrats
[TS]
00:45:41
◼
►
not like necessarily the newest new releases but still movies that you would
[TS]
00:45:47
◼
►
have heard of before unlike a lot of the stuff but Netflix and what happened it
[TS]
00:45:51
◼
►
was it's it's sort of like a beautiful bit you know everybody loves to complain
[TS]
00:45:55
◼
►
about lawyers but some somewhere there was a lawyer who did this is like like
[TS]
00:46:00
◼
►
lowering at its best
[TS]
00:46:03
◼
►
somebody figured out that stars had worked out a contract with their
[TS]
00:46:07
◼
►
standard contract with all these studios allowed them not just to put these
[TS]
00:46:12
◼
►
things on their cable channel but to also put them on the internet and they
[TS]
00:46:17
◼
►
had no way stars didn't have like absurd anything land and when these contracts
[TS]
00:46:20
◼
►
are written but there it seems like everybody agreed to it because it never
[TS]
00:46:24
◼
►
it nobody actually thought it was going to happen you know it was just like a
[TS]
00:46:28
◼
►
clause in there that they you know among the rights that they have for these
[TS]
00:46:30
◼
►
movies for this time period is the right to put it on the internet and
[TS]
00:46:34
◼
►
furthermore I guess somebody you know figured out I probably had Netflix that
[TS]
00:46:38
◼
►
the contract also didn't are also allowed them to resell those rights or
[TS]
00:46:44
◼
►
two to partner with somebody else to have those rights so Netflix had all of
[TS]
00:46:49
◼
►
his movies not because Netflix worked out the rights to have them through all
[TS]
00:46:54
◼
►
these studios but all they did have a deal with stars to allow them to
[TS]
00:46:58
◼
►
broadcast the movies that started it and so you know this because whenever you
[TS]
00:47:03
◼
►
started those movies there would be a little stars bumper at the beginning of
[TS]
00:47:07
◼
►
it you know that the equivalent of the day HBO and that under down you know
[TS]
00:47:15
◼
►
that the stars equipment was before it so when that when that deal expired and
[TS]
00:47:21
◼
►
that was one year and a half ago when did you write February 2012 so I was
[TS]
00:47:27
◼
►
pretty close so a little bit over a year ago I really thought that puts us in
[TS]
00:47:30
◼
►
trouble because that's when I use Netflix most for almost all of my
[TS]
00:47:34
◼
►
Netflix viewing was movies that they'd had three stars and they don't they
[TS]
00:47:40
◼
►
really don't Netflix does not have a lot of good selection of movies anymore I
[TS]
00:47:45
◼
►
think I don't think at that point they had said that stars was eight percent of
[TS]
00:47:52
◼
►
their viewing so actually was before that so that's a that's adding that
[TS]
00:47:59
◼
►
shows that I'm I was in it was me being in a typical networks user not that
[TS]
00:48:04
◼
►
stars that essential to it you know and I was a little too
[TS]
00:48:08
◼
►
self centered about what what I thought other people were doing on Netflix
[TS]
00:48:14
◼
►
yeah and that's the thing that another thing that folks always did well even
[TS]
00:48:17
◼
►
going back to the DVD days was having this this extremely deep library of
[TS]
00:48:23
◼
►
stuff in effect actually just last week resub scribe two DVDs to get a couple
[TS]
00:48:29
◼
►
things that you still couldn't get anywhere online and try and I get a free
[TS]
00:48:35
◼
►
months I've been getting it just some random stuff sent to me but like some of
[TS]
00:48:38
◼
►
it is very obscure like a documentary about Ron Santo the World Cups player
[TS]
00:48:43
◼
►
that I don't think I'd ever find online but sure enough there it is on DVD and
[TS]
00:48:48
◼
►
Netflix so so but it's interesting they have signed some more so more deals to
[TS]
00:48:55
◼
►
get more stuff but other studios are also going away and and Netflix
[TS]
00:49:02
◼
►
meanwhile is doing its own content as well
[TS]
00:49:05
◼
►
house of cards arrested development and so far they've done quite well with it I
[TS]
00:49:11
◼
►
think I don't know if you watched house of cards I haven't yet I'm definitely
[TS]
00:49:15
◼
►
going to there's a hundred percent chance but I haven't it's it's good I
[TS]
00:49:19
◼
►
mean it's not like I wouldn't I didn't watch The West Wing and not really a Dec
[TS]
00:49:24
◼
►
politics kind of guy but Kevin Spacey's good I mean it's a little weird at the
[TS]
00:49:29
◼
►
beginning but it gets it gets really good and and apparently that got them a
[TS]
00:49:34
◼
►
lot of new subscribers and arrested development probably will too and
[TS]
00:49:39
◼
►
it seems to be that that Netflix is like the same person you know something that
[TS]
00:49:45
◼
►
belongs in every scene household anyone who watches TV should probably have a
[TS]
00:49:49
◼
►
reason to subscribe to Netflix at this point but that's something that's gonna
[TS]
00:49:55
◼
►
last for a long time or not
[TS]
00:49:57
◼
►
yeah and it's an interesting business model because they're not asking a lot i
[TS]
00:50:01
◼
►
mean you know $8 a month is here that's how much of your cus thats nothing but I
[TS]
00:50:11
◼
►
mean it was so you know what youre talking in the ballpark of $100 a year
[TS]
00:50:15
◼
►
which is not nothing but it's certainly nothing compared to what we are used to
[TS]
00:50:19
◼
►
paying for cable for me over $100 a month so I think it is for most people
[TS]
00:50:24
◼
►
and probably watch as much Netflix as cable sometimes maybe not all the time
[TS]
00:50:31
◼
►
but sometimes especially when we're binging through a series or something
[TS]
00:50:34
◼
►
like that so I think they're doing well I think that they're they're on to
[TS]
00:50:39
◼
►
something and i think that the original programming is obviously a big part of
[TS]
00:50:42
◼
►
it but I posted a a chart earlier this week which you linked to and exits funny
[TS]
00:50:48
◼
►
every time I write about AOL the chart showed how basically as AOL has lost
[TS]
00:50:54
◼
►
subscribers over the last 10 years
[TS]
00:50:57
◼
►
netflix has gained them in almost perfect symmetry Netflix is now bigger
[TS]
00:51:03
◼
►
than a while ever was
[TS]
00:51:04
◼
►
but if it's kind of cool chart it's one of my favorite charts visually that I've
[TS]
00:51:09
◼
►
ever made which is kind of showing this looks like a como most of it while
[TS]
00:51:14
◼
►
declining in Netflix growing and a guy who writes for real clear technology one
[TS]
00:51:21
◼
►
of the things I ask in the post was you know what what is what's gonna hurt
[TS]
00:51:26
◼
►
Netflix eventually what's going to cause them to eventually fizzle out if
[TS]
00:51:29
◼
►
anything you know something that's gonna be mobile oriented the Netflix can't do
[TS]
00:51:34
◼
►
or what's going to be and and and the guy had some interesting points one of
[TS]
00:51:41
◼
►
them was the potential for internet providers to
[TS]
00:51:45
◼
►
we talked about how Netflix is maybe a third of the bandwidth used you know if
[TS]
00:51:51
◼
►
if they were to charge for bandwidth by the Gigabyte the way that they do on
[TS]
00:51:55
◼
►
wireless networks you know and all the sudden Netflix cost a lot more than
[TS]
00:52:00
◼
►
eight bucks a month to use that's certainly potentially not good for them
[TS]
00:52:06
◼
►
or another one could be that they would continue to lose contracts for content
[TS]
00:52:12
◼
►
until now
[TS]
00:52:14
◼
►
netflix has been a source of new revenue for a lot of D TV studios who all the
[TS]
00:52:19
◼
►
sudden had a a place where they could make money off their old shows no one's
[TS]
00:52:23
◼
►
gonna pay 40 bucks and iTunes for season one of you know seasons one through five
[TS]
00:52:28
◼
►
of Mad Men but someone will certainly tear through them on Netflix but at some
[TS]
00:52:34
◼
►
point more content owners studios TV networks may kind of figure out oh well
[TS]
00:52:41
◼
►
you know if if there's an audience for this stuff maybe we should own that
[TS]
00:52:44
◼
►
maybe we should have the Warner Brothers I think Warner Brothers is actually
[TS]
00:52:48
◼
►
building their own online subscription-based movie service so I
[TS]
00:52:55
◼
►
don't like about that most people have no idea what the hell studio made
[TS]
00:52:59
◼
►
certain movies like nobody thinks like that nobody thinks let's go watch a
[TS]
00:53:03
◼
►
Warner Brothers movie no wonder I mean I guess you kind of have to do that with
[TS]
00:53:07
◼
►
TV shows like where if you want to watch Game of Thrones you know you gotta go to
[TS]
00:53:12
◼
►
by right but there's only four TV networks writer you know the movie
[TS]
00:53:20
◼
►
studios are there and who who is ever even thought about what movie studio
[TS]
00:53:24
◼
►
owns it besides maybe Disney yes that's why the one that has the most
[TS]
00:53:27
◼
►
recognition but even so even if you know it I think that's why the Netflix is
[TS]
00:53:32
◼
►
doing so well is that you just know all you have to know is go to Netflix open
[TS]
00:53:37
◼
►
up netflix on your Apple TV you're fired up on your Playstation or on your iPad
[TS]
00:53:41
◼
►
or something like that and you can find something and you don't have to worry
[TS]
00:53:44
◼
►
about who made it you know was that warner brothers or was it universal or
[TS]
00:53:48
◼
►
fox or whatever it's just there nobody like that yeah so i dont and then you
[TS]
00:53:55
◼
►
know all those even if they were to do that with they get the distribution
[TS]
00:53:59
◼
►
deals that Netflix has and probably not I mean Apple TV is not going to have at
[TS]
00:54:04
◼
►
least at this point maybe if there's an app platform and Apple TV and I think it
[TS]
00:54:09
◼
►
was three years ago I predicted this year will be the year of the Apple TV
[TS]
00:54:13
◼
►
app store right who knows that I won't be surprised you know I think it's
[TS]
00:54:19
◼
►
coming but there have been so few changes to that software and so many new
[TS]
00:54:26
◼
►
people buying and using it that they gotta do something eventually I think
[TS]
00:54:31
◼
►
we're waiting on a better remote I think it's it's going to be a next generation
[TS]
00:54:35
◼
►
Apple TV was some kind of better I don't know if I can make any prediction about
[TS]
00:54:40
◼
►
what it's going to be but I think something better than an infrared up
[TS]
00:54:44
◼
►
down left right play pause to facilitate more than just play pause apps where the
[TS]
00:54:52
◼
►
best thing is that for whatever reason my tv remote and the Apple TV remote are
[TS]
00:54:57
◼
►
on the same whatever frequency or something so whenever I try whenever I
[TS]
00:55:03
◼
►
go left right on the AppleTV it changes the input on my TV also have to wait and
[TS]
00:55:08
◼
►
infrared is such a hack but I'd love for you know I'd love to see FaceTime on
[TS]
00:55:14
◼
►
there and stuff like that right
[TS]
00:55:15
◼
►
it seems like a natural yeah the insidious part about what Netflix is
[TS]
00:55:21
◼
►
competing against is the way that the interests of internet providers or not
[TS]
00:55:27
◼
►
it was no almost nobody who's an internet provider is really just an
[TS]
00:55:32
◼
►
internet provider there the cable companies right and the cable companies
[TS]
00:55:36
◼
►
don't want to just sell you at $20 a month internet connection they want to
[TS]
00:55:41
◼
►
sell you these you know what are we paying $120 a month you know package
[TS]
00:55:46
◼
►
that has TV and Internet and so it's not in their interest to have people using
[TS]
00:55:52
◼
►
Netflix right getting used to it and thinking all you need is Netflix so that
[TS]
00:55:56
◼
►
you know it's not really I i think that the the complaints from cable companies
[TS]
00:56:01
◼
►
about all we have to charge by the Gigabyte because you know poor us it's
[TS]
00:56:06
◼
►
not really that they have to her that they can't make money doing it it's that
[TS]
00:56:09
◼
►
it busts up their monopoly that lets them charge what I think is you know not
[TS]
00:56:15
◼
►
what the fair market value is for all the video content you get from cable
[TS]
00:56:19
◼
►
right yeah exactly and if if they start to see that you know 25 or even 50%
[TS]
00:56:27
◼
►
someday of video watching is happening over the internet and not over the cable
[TS]
00:56:33
◼
►
you know we overpaid vastly for cable TV we as consumers and the cable companies
[TS]
00:56:40
◼
►
like Comcast Time Warner profit from that but the channels due to right
[TS]
00:56:45
◼
►
there's this year you can google all these stories about how that works for
[TS]
00:56:49
◼
►
you pay your cable bill of $120 a month or whatever you know three dollars goes
[TS]
00:56:54
◼
►
to ESPN and $2 goes CNN and a lot of these flagship channels and eat so even
[TS]
00:57:00
◼
►
if you know your yeah it really I believe it you absolutely have to have
[TS]
00:57:07
◼
►
ESPN because people who watch sports
[TS]
00:57:09
◼
►
absolutely have to happen but and I'm sure that you know that this audience
[TS]
00:57:13
◼
►
you know the the nerds out there listening to this show I'm sure there's
[TS]
00:57:16
◼
►
a ton of them who haven't put ESPN on endeavour in their life because they
[TS]
00:57:21
◼
►
don't they don't watch sports and yet they're paying $5 a month every month 60
[TS]
00:57:26
◼
►
bucks a year
[TS]
00:57:27
◼
►
you know which is almost what you pay for for Netflix right watch what you
[TS]
00:57:32
◼
►
want and you choose to do it and cancel at anytime right obviously the fairway
[TS]
00:57:37
◼
►
to price it would be Alucard and the only people who would pay for ESPN or
[TS]
00:57:40
◼
►
the people watching ESPN but that bus the monopoly and you end up paying
[TS]
00:57:44
◼
►
everybody would end up pain a lot less well but anyone who wanted ESPN would
[TS]
00:57:51
◼
►
have to pay more
[TS]
00:57:53
◼
►
20 bucks a month right exactly because if you know if only a quarter of the
[TS]
00:57:58
◼
►
people are watching ESPN and you they still have to make the same amount of
[TS]
00:58:02
◼
►
money although Peter Kafka wrote the story couple days ago her baby yesterday
[TS]
00:58:05
◼
►
about what would happen this year the circumstance which is basically ESPN
[TS]
00:58:10
◼
►
will go to the sports leagues and say all right well can't pay you a billion
[TS]
00:58:13
◼
►
dollars anymore for for your games anymore so good luck good luck with that
[TS]
00:58:19
◼
►
they would recoup some of their expenses somehow but it would still cost a lot
[TS]
00:58:22
◼
►
more per channel and a lot of the channels we would have let's just go
[TS]
00:58:27
◼
►
which i think is fine actually destruction but there's an awful lot of
[TS]
00:58:32
◼
►
entrenched business interests that are all based on the idea that every
[TS]
00:58:39
◼
►
household is paying 70 80 90 100 $220 a month for cable and that there's this
[TS]
00:58:45
◼
►
big amount of money and that they're not watching it right so when when Fox pays
[TS]
00:58:49
◼
►
four billion dollars a year to broadcast Sunday NFC games it's not because
[TS]
00:58:55
◼
►
everybody watches NFC games but everybody's paying for it right the
[TS]
00:59:03
◼
►
second sponsor and then we'll we'll wrap up the show but our second sponsor is
[TS]
00:59:08
◼
►
great there there's same as last week its transporter you listen to show last
[TS]
00:59:13
◼
►
week transporter is hardware product you buy and its file storage put it on you
[TS]
00:59:19
◼
►
connected to your home network and then it gives you effectively and this is
[TS]
00:59:25
◼
►
their language not mine it's effectively your own private Dropbox so you hook up
[TS]
00:59:30
◼
►
the transporter you can get it with a hard drive or you can buy one without it
[TS]
00:59:34
◼
►
and supplier on 2.5 inch drive put it on your network you sign up with trance
[TS]
00:59:40
◼
►
Porter people with an account and all the account does the cloud part all it
[TS]
00:59:45
◼
►
does is poked a hole through your firewall at home so that you can access
[TS]
00:59:49
◼
►
this thing from everywhere
[TS]
00:59:51
◼
►
your stuff doesn't get stored on their servers it gets stored on the device you
[TS]
00:59:56
◼
►
own and control and its peer-to-peer so you can have two of them and no mirror
[TS]
01:00:02
◼
►
each other and you can have one of them upstairs one of them downstairs you can
[TS]
01:00:05
◼
►
have one in your house when your office you don't want your house one at your
[TS]
01:00:09
◼
►
folks house so that you have a backup so that the whole thing is mirrored between
[TS]
01:00:14
◼
►
the two and it all just goes here to peer and you can share files and folders
[TS]
01:00:21
◼
►
with other people just like with Dropbox you can say here's a shared folder for
[TS]
01:00:25
◼
►
me and Dan and only mean you can see it but it's stored on my file transporter
[TS]
01:00:31
◼
►
and if you haven't filed transporter it would be mirrored on yours as well so
[TS]
01:00:36
◼
►
it'd be faster peace be right there under local network it's a really clever
[TS]
01:00:40
◼
►
idea the big emphasis why would you use this was a big thing as privacy right
[TS]
01:00:43
◼
►
because you control the hardware you know that the only place where your
[TS]
01:00:48
◼
►
stuff is stored on this device that you have in your hands you can see you can
[TS]
01:00:52
◼
►
hold and you can control like I said you can buy one without a drive supply run
[TS]
01:00:58
◼
►
2.5 inch drive 499 or even easier you can just buy one terabyte model $2.99 or
[TS]
01:01:05
◼
►
two terabyte model 399 that's the only costs involved you dared sorta like
[TS]
01:01:11
◼
►
Apple they just want to sell your hardware 199 299 399 401 are two
[TS]
01:01:17
◼
►
terabytes and that's the only thing you pay your account is free and that's all
[TS]
01:01:23
◼
►
there is to it it's really really great
[TS]
01:01:25
◼
►
very great idea and it's from the people who originally made the Drobo this is
[TS]
01:01:31
◼
►
the engineering and design team that made the Drobo and so what that did
[TS]
01:01:34
◼
►
personal file storage now they're doing for distributed cloud file storage I
[TS]
01:01:40
◼
►
encourage you go find out more at filed transporter dot com slash talk that's
[TS]
01:01:46
◼
►
that's the way you came from the show while transporter dot com slash talk and
[TS]
01:01:50
◼
►
find out more and listeners the show you can save 10% on your purchase by using
[TS]
01:01:56
◼
►
the discount code talk all lowercase TLK and save 10% on those prices I just told
[TS]
01:02:03
◼
►
you about it filed transporter dot com slash talk and actually did here last
[TS]
01:02:08
◼
►
week show and I looked at this and I'm in the market for something like this
[TS]
01:02:12
◼
►
right now it sounds interesting to me the biggest thing like you know there's
[TS]
01:02:16
◼
►
there's a couple options there be something like this and then I'll be
[TS]
01:02:19
◼
►
uploading everything to some sort of cloud storage but one of the things hold
[TS]
01:02:24
◼
►
me back from the cloud storage is that it would take me probably a month or two
[TS]
01:02:29
◼
►
months just to upload everything I have over a terabyte of stuff on my computer
[TS]
01:02:33
◼
►
I don't even know if time-warner would let me upload all that somewhere I tried
[TS]
01:02:38
◼
►
so I looked at signing up for a photo sharing a photo library site the other
[TS]
01:02:43
◼
►
day and I realize that I have 400 gigabytes of picture how do you upload
[TS]
01:02:49
◼
►
that somewhere so local and you can kind of pick and choose on demand I need this
[TS]
01:02:55
◼
►
this folder and so the big file transfer would only go on your local network it's
[TS]
01:03:00
◼
►
right there just in your house never goes anywhere outside just from your
[TS]
01:03:03
◼
►
computer to the file transporter and then you can access it from anywhere
[TS]
01:03:06
◼
►
they have I didn't even mention they have iPhone and iPad apps so you can
[TS]
01:03:10
◼
►
just access from anywhere if you wanted to get it you're 400 gigabyte selection
[TS]
01:03:14
◼
►
of trials or for photos or something which I only ever need one or two at a
[TS]
01:03:19
◼
►
time so I'm gonna check this one out one last thing before we end the show here
[TS]
01:03:24
◼
►
is the last time I talked about is a site tweet from you yesterday after your
[TS]
01:03:28
◼
►
training here this was a Patton Oswalt that is but there's somebody in
[TS]
01:03:33
◼
►
Tokyo you said that your your phone got shut your iPhone I presume got got
[TS]
01:03:42
◼
►
terrible battery life in Japan and you think it's because you were roaming on
[TS]
01:03:45
◼
►
3G as opposed to getting LTE
[TS]
01:03:47
◼
►
and I'm really struck a chord when I was in Dublin for the all-conference last
[TS]
01:03:53
◼
►
month third to last month my phone had the worst battery life and I did that
[TS]
01:03:58
◼
►
thing where I gotta have a Verizon iPhone I can just put a a local SIM card
[TS]
01:04:03
◼
►
and I just paid like 20 bucks and got a local SIM card with you know a couple
[TS]
01:04:07
◼
►
hundred megabytes of data so I didn't have to pay any money paid 20 bucks but
[TS]
01:04:11
◼
►
I didn't have to pay any roaming but my battery life in Dublin was shit i mean
[TS]
01:04:16
◼
►
by the end of the day I was just out I mean I was looking around for power
[TS]
01:04:20
◼
►
charges and some and I think it's cuz I was on 3G oh yeah I hindsight since I
[TS]
01:04:26
◼
►
have the iPhone 5 I've been abroad three times I think and what I was in Japan
[TS]
01:04:33
◼
►
hanging out with my friend last december it was terrible it was my iPhone 5 in
[TS]
01:04:41
◼
►
New York laughs when I go to bed I am rarely below 30% usually you know even
[TS]
01:04:50
◼
►
it's plugged in all day it's not plugged in all day it's just it's very efficient
[TS]
01:04:55
◼
►
have a very strong Verizon signal everywhere I go
[TS]
01:04:58
◼
►
you know that my battery is is not even in the top ten complaints about the
[TS]
01:05:03
◼
►
iPhone 5 but when I was in Japan which you know it's funny like for how long
[TS]
01:05:09
◼
►
did we we we kind of made fun of it in the USA for having horrible what
[TS]
01:05:14
◼
►
wireless and now you don't you go to places like Asia and Europe where 44
[TS]
01:05:18
◼
►
ever they were making fun of us then you go there and this isn't actually that
[TS]
01:05:21
◼
►
could you guys talking about but yeah when I was there I would I was the guy
[TS]
01:05:28
◼
►
making random hotel to let me charge my phone
[TS]
01:05:32
◼
►
you know in their lamp cord you know because my phone is dead and I couldn't
[TS]
01:05:38
◼
►
i couldn't get in touch with my friends so and what and when we were in Europe
[TS]
01:05:43
◼
►
to have the same problem in France on this funny was one carrier in
[TS]
01:05:48
◼
►
in the second time I went back and I had a different SIM card from a different
[TS]
01:05:51
◼
►
French carrier the battery life was better so I wonder you know this is me
[TS]
01:05:57
◼
►
making stuff up now I wonder what if there's a specific I guess in France
[TS]
01:06:02
◼
►
would make sense because everything's kind of in the same frequency levels
[TS]
01:06:04
◼
►
there but I wasn't in Japan I was roaming on two different carriers one
[TS]
01:06:10
◼
►
was Softbank which is GSM based in the other was cdma-based and the CDMA was
[TS]
01:06:18
◼
►
the worst like the battery would just die so quickly whereas the GSM one was
[TS]
01:06:22
◼
►
was a little better but even still like nothing like I get home I would have to
[TS]
01:06:28
◼
►
charge it at least twice a day
[TS]
01:06:31
◼
►
fully and at that point and have one of those the new movies so yeah I had but I
[TS]
01:06:40
◼
►
had i didnt have still not have the case for the iPhone 5 I just haven't the
[TS]
01:06:45
◼
►
standalone yes I know what they call the things that you can plug in
[TS]
01:06:51
◼
►
I'm done by K smokey's I think I am 231 you know I just use them right and I
[TS]
01:07:01
◼
►
hate putting it in my phone and stupid thing anyway so even when I did use the
[TS]
01:07:05
◼
►
case I'd carry in my other pocket and I don't put it on I need it but then you
[TS]
01:07:09
◼
►
know it takes up as much space in my pocket is the break thing does the only
[TS]
01:07:12
◼
►
house with the brick thing is that you have to have a cable right like I wish
[TS]
01:07:16
◼
►
that it just had like a little cold out
[TS]
01:07:19
◼
►
lightning plug you know that you could just pulled out and snapping into your
[TS]
01:07:25
◼
►
iPhone but that they don't want to pay Apple for the Lightning thing I guess so
[TS]
01:07:30
◼
►
here's another post that I never did which was I even did a whole photo shoot
[TS]
01:07:35
◼
►
and everything what I want is a lightning to USB stick the size of the
[TS]
01:07:44
◼
►
install rescue disk yeah like ricky is flat as a key and all it is is the USB
[TS]
01:07:54
◼
►
sensors on one side and the lightning bolt lightning lightning connector on
[TS]
01:08:02
◼
►
the other end you can just pass power to it so if you are you could even just go
[TS]
01:08:05
◼
►
to a cash register some store and stick your phone in there for a few minutes
[TS]
01:08:08
◼
►
and in charge of for something like and I would think you would make it out of
[TS]
01:08:12
◼
►
something that's pretty stiff but not super stiff so have been a little bit
[TS]
01:08:16
◼
►
slightly rubbery nasa that you know if your phone is it you know you plug it
[TS]
01:08:21
◼
►
into your MacBook to a phone you could put the phone on the table it wouldn't
[TS]
01:08:25
◼
►
be just picking up in the air and you could snap it off you know just have a
[TS]
01:08:28
◼
►
great great product I would buy that someone Kickstarter that please
[TS]
01:08:35
◼
►
for that but I think that'd be really cool and I did I like I tired to gather
[TS]
01:08:39
◼
►
stuff you know this if I posted a half the stuff that I come up with half my
[TS]
01:08:46
◼
►
memory at all
[TS]
01:08:48
◼
►
was me and Michael lob we both had the MOT breaks like letting other people
[TS]
01:08:53
◼
►
borrow them are fishing them out so that we could use them to recharge their
[TS]
01:08:57
◼
►
phones because the phones are dying so quick so I imagine we're now going to
[TS]
01:09:00
◼
►
hear from you know 75 electrical engineers about exactly this you know
[TS]
01:09:06
◼
►
either were full of it and we're just using our phones more because we're not
[TS]
01:09:09
◼
►
at home or something like that but I really do think that there's something
[TS]
01:09:13
◼
►
there that maybe the 3G network is less efficient its ports polling for a signal
[TS]
01:09:19
◼
►
harder or something like that that's making the battery life force and we
[TS]
01:09:24
◼
►
could have done some research before the show but instead why not let her smart
[TS]
01:09:28
◼
►
readers just tell us to other theory and I could be all wet on this maybe I'm
[TS]
01:09:32
◼
►
just point it right on my ass is May because we have Verizon iPhones the way
[TS]
01:09:36
◼
►
the antennas are tuned when you are on GSM through you know I said maybe it's
[TS]
01:09:43
◼
►
it's not worried you know it's not optimal
[TS]
01:09:46
◼
►
for that I'm trusting and maybe that's why we get worse battery life but I
[TS]
01:09:50
◼
►
remember and it's not remember thinking maybe I am using it more than I am but I
[TS]
01:09:54
◼
►
remember even the day that I spoke at war and I spent like two hours before
[TS]
01:10:00
◼
►
rights folk rehearsing and then I spoke for an hour and then immediately went to
[TS]
01:10:05
◼
►
dinner in the venue so I that was like a four hour period where I was not on the
[TS]
01:10:11
◼
►
phone at all because it's been two hours rehearsing and going over my notes and
[TS]
01:10:16
◼
►
then an hour talking and then like at least an hour at dinner before I even
[TS]
01:10:20
◼
►
like really even took out my phone and did anything with it and I remember
[TS]
01:10:23
◼
►
noting that the battery had gone down significantly in the time I hadn't even
[TS]
01:10:27
◼
►
taken out of my pocket and yeah I don't think I think we're onto something I
[TS]
01:10:33
◼
►
don't know what it is but anybody anybody out there knows what's going on
[TS]
01:10:37
◼
►
let me know and I'll do it what is Siracusa call it a few I do it after you
[TS]
01:10:43
◼
►
next week
[TS]
01:10:44
◼
►
can fix this please fix it and from where people should go and check out the
[TS]
01:10:50
◼
►
city knows what's going on with city necessarily City notes is my travel
[TS]
01:10:55
◼
►
guide start-up City notes that I O is our website we have a freshly updated
[TS]
01:11:01
◼
►
guide to New York City so if your traveling to New York this summer and
[TS]
01:11:06
◼
►
wanna know only the best places to hang out restaurants cafes don't waste your
[TS]
01:11:11
◼
►
time on the uncropped don't waste your time on Yelp or you know God some
[TS]
01:11:15
◼
►
garbage like that
[TS]
01:11:16
◼
►
check out city notes we're gonna be releasing new guides over the next
[TS]
01:11:21
◼
►
several weeks to places like Paris and a separate one for Brooklyn and hopefully
[TS]
01:11:26
◼
►
Tokyo Chicago and LA so fast it's kind of my full-time job now I'm pretty much
[TS]
01:11:33
◼
►
winding down my time on split up at the moment and really pushing hard on this
[TS]
01:11:38
◼
►
so check it out at City notes . I O or or follow us on Twitter its city notes
[TS]
01:11:45
◼
►
travel has someone is squatting on city now
[TS]
01:11:48
◼
►
I hate that yeah well that's great everybody should check it out we've
[TS]
01:11:52
◼
►
talked about it before couple months ago but it's really worth your time it's a
[TS]
01:11:55
◼
►
great really really great stuff thankyou down from her thank you
[TS]