0:00:00so in the news this week it seems that he does one of the things that's come up
0:00:04it seems like this is the week I don't know maybe it's just me maybe just what
0:00:07I read this week but it seems like this is the week where everybody is sort of
0:00:10come to the conclusion that Windows 8 is failure
0:00:15yeah I was actually thinking about that too and it's not that it's not that
0:00:20literally nobody is buying it at all
0:00:24not a Vista times a hundred million people have bought or something like
0:00:28that yeah a large number of people but it seems to me that you know this is one
0:00:33of those things where Microsoft s too not just kind of approach expectations
0:00:39but has to far exceed expectations in order to be thought of as really doing
0:00:45well and you know Windows Phone is a is a similar example and I posted about
0:00:50this many times which is you know that's not this is not a place where they can
0:00:54just do okay this is so important to the future of Microsoft that just doing ok
0:01:00is is a massive failure here and in only huge success would be you know is the
0:01:06only acceptable solution there so i i think thats exactly what we're seeing is
0:01:11that it's it is pretty good and it's pretty popular but that's just not good
0:01:15enough especially as you know the PC market itself heads into the into the
0:01:23toilet basically and in the future of what you know what you know if this
0:01:29trend holds up the shift to tablets and mobile devices you know the share of
0:01:35Windows on those devices is you know single-digit or low double-digit
0:01:40that's not going to work for the best for the biggest software company in the
0:01:44world you know they can sure that they have the enterprise business and and all
0:01:49that sort of stuff which which could very well be a large profitable business
0:01:53for Microsoft but hard to see that being as big or as dominant as Windows was you
0:02:00know now more than ten years ago
0:02:03yeah and I i think i kind of I nailed half of it two years ago when they first
0:02:10announced Windows 8
0:02:11wrote a piece about how it's the title but some about how it was a bad idea to
0:02:16compete against the iPad and my argument and I think has proven to be exactly
0:02:21right is that the appeal of the iPad is is largely based on all of the things
0:02:28that it can't do because it makes it so simple and having a system where you
0:02:32have all the complexity of windows and a simple interface over there to the side
0:02:37isn't gonna do it and I think that's proven right now only and that but
0:02:43that's only really half the story which is that Windows 8 wasn't going to be
0:02:47competitive against the iPad in this new space of tablet devices the part that I
0:02:54didn't think about and it just died I just never really occurred to me was
0:02:59that it was going to also proved unpopular as a PC operating system for
0:03:04people using it on desktops and traditional laptops right which actually
0:03:10makes complete sense when you think about it i mean you know my my the
0:03:15reason I still do all my work on a Mac and iOS is that there are certain
0:03:21functions that lend themselves very well having a keyboard and trackpad shifting
0:03:26between many windows at a time being able to go and look at an old email
0:03:30while I'm writing a new email those are things that I OS does very poorly and
0:03:35that the Mac still does extremely well and I certainly wouldn't want to run iOS
0:03:39on my Mac at least not anytime soon so I could see how that would kind of cloud
0:03:44the windows experience to rate now is that metro or what you know what used to
0:03:51be called Metro isn't really something you want on your desktop and all Windows
0:03:56is definitely not something you on your tablet so I just never really thought
0:04:01about that other half of the story and the thing that I keep seeing I've seen a
0:04:04couple of stories this week and I believe it is that a lot of people get
0:04:08it and honestly they have trouble putting their computer to sleep or
0:04:12turning the computer off because they can't figure it out because the only
0:04:15thing they've ever known what to do is go to the start menu
0:04:18you and that's where you go to shut down and it's it's actually that all you know
0:04:22everybody used to make fun of it is how do you shut down Windows computer go to
0:04:26the start menu right which is kind of linguistically counterintuitive but
0:04:31everybody knew to do that and now that the Start menu is gone nobody knows how
0:04:35to help a shot off their computer and that's it right but I understand why
0:04:42because think about the iPad right there how do you shut off the iPad within the
0:04:46software there is no way because it's you know it's this one cohesive it's
0:04:51it's not it's not just operating system it's a device and so they put this big
0:04:56obvious power button up in the corner and thats you just tap that but if you
0:05:05just put it in your purse without turning it off and then her style me but
0:05:09that was me national yeah so you actually can do that though if you just
0:05:20put your iPad in your purse or whatever without turning it off it will shut off
0:05:25in a couple minutes it will it will mean unless I guess unless you leave it lets
0:05:29you leave it streaming Netflix little oriental accidentally do stuff like call
0:05:36me or something but I used to call it the pants style in fact there's there
0:05:41was like my pride of age 25 I think when I was working at forbes was saying the
0:05:46term pants dial on CBS Radio that was confused enemies but right pants is
0:05:55obviously one of the one of the best words in the English language because
0:05:59nobody will argue that is anything you know it's even vaguely scandalous but
0:06:03there is something vaguely inappropriate about it it's funny it just sounds and
0:06:08looks funny it's a great word senses that Letterman's production company
0:06:12Worldwide Pants the greatest in the history of the universe like that
0:06:21the other I guess the flip side of this thing with Windows 8 is this is it
0:06:30official this is the thing I'm not a hundred percent on it has Microsoft
0:06:33officially come out and said that the Start menu is coming back there are no I
0:06:38haven't hit following that it seems as though people you know in the know like
0:06:42Mary Jo Foley and and other you know really well sourced Microsoft reporters
0:06:48are saying it and it seems like you can bet money on it but that there's going
0:06:52to be one of a kind of Windows blue and i know i think they did officially said
0:06:58it's slated for later this calendar year it's going to come out sometime in 2013
0:07:01but that is going to have a preference that and I guess OEM can turn it on by
0:07:08default to boot to the traditional Windows look on if that's appropriate
0:07:13for your device is this like a service pack or something like that I mean yeah
0:07:17I think it's in between you know I don't think I think you know it doesn't really
0:07:23fit and you know it's like an in-between update its not like a point one update
0:07:28but it's not like a major new version of Windows Update you know it's a big
0:07:32service com service packs anymore and it kind of got away from that but that that
0:07:37song with the the cover band thing ruined it I don't know the Vista sp1
0:07:42song constantly Bruce Springsteen cover band well I think that makes sense I
0:07:52mean if if people are saying hey look we you know we don't really care that much
0:07:56about how Windows works but don't take away our start button I think that maybe
0:08:01a fair compromise I mean the idea that Windows 8 is going to be some fast
0:08:07change in how Windows works and how people think of it obviously is not
0:08:13going to the ideal plans and also isn't the guy who kind of design all the stuff
0:08:21gone anyway so why not so you know perfect opportunity for Microsoft ago
0:08:26alright well those guys are gone we're gonna we're gonna fix windows and make
0:08:30it the way that that you and I both love it or something like that
0:08:33yeah you know you never know though from the outside you know who knows maybe
0:08:39Sinofsky actually didn't wasn't endorsing the idea of making everybody
0:08:45see Metro as their default look you never know maybe in Austin argument and
0:08:50maybe that's partially why he left you know but you get the feeling that it
0:08:53probably was his idea cuz he you know his reputation had a lot of control over
0:08:57it I really like your old idea which was that they should have made something
0:09:01that you know that maybe even only booted on a Mac at first and just new OS
0:09:06that you know the people could get excited about it didn't have all the
0:09:09baggage and that would be a way for them to to really move forward without having
0:09:14to support you know thirty years of stuff and it seems like it could have
0:09:19been cool you know I maybe I would have even install it where it's windows 8 I
0:09:24just have no curiosity about it at all and it seems like the surface is
0:09:29basically you know they copied the wrong iPad seems like something that would
0:09:35have been may be interesting a few years ago but I my old idea I came up with
0:09:42this with my friend Jason Hoffman is the Yankees CTO at Joint years ago I mean I
0:09:48think the time to do it would have been years ago like around 2008 or so but it
0:09:52was it was all stemming from that picture that picture that was widely
0:09:56circulated at the college class it was like a college lecturer and 97% of the
0:10:03kids in the room had a Mac notebook in front of them and there's I one poor kid
0:10:07enough run with it or something like that
0:10:10and it was you know I forget with just you know some random University in the
0:10:16middle of the country and it was in any kind of there is no particular reason
0:10:19why it should be the Apple centric and now it was yeah it wasn't anything like
0:10:25that was just like you know I can 101 and kids taking lecture notes you know
0:10:29and it just showed how overwhelmingly popular Apple notebooks have become an
0:10:35RA deal was that what Microsoft should do is they should just put together put
0:10:41one guy in charge
0:10:42let him pick a hundred engineers take a hundred engineers go off and be like you
0:10:47know like the Mac team was in nineteen eighty-four put a pirate flag up and
0:10:51make their own new operating system and do whatever they want they want to start
0:10:56with Linux instead of the Windows kernel let him do it you know do whatever you
0:11:00want
0:11:01under the hood for compatibility they could use something like VMware you know
0:11:06that type of thing Microsoft even has something like that and let it run
0:11:09Windows in an emulation layer you know like classic classic Mac OS was if you
0:11:15wanna meet their Microsoft they can do whatever they want with Windows right
0:11:18situation want to put Windows compatibility thing let him do it if you
0:11:22want
0:11:23but go you know go blue sky and tell everybody wants you really see it that
0:11:28this is not the new version of Windows this is a new thing we're still
0:11:31developing Windows Windows is on its own track there's you know Windows the next
0:11:36version is coming right out we're you know we're just working on the future of
0:11:40this thing and then the brilliant yet brilliant idea I think would have been
0:11:43if if as a beta you said and as the beta it only runs on Macs just because then
0:11:49you have this small target of hardware to to to support any idea would be to
0:11:57try to get people who you know young people and curious people to you know
0:12:02play around with it I think the opportunity for that was over because
0:12:07this point if a Mac can be the best computer to run Windows why can't a Mac
0:12:13also be the best PC right now that's exactly true and I you know there was
0:12:17just that polio other week that came out where somebody you know I forget it was
0:12:20but it wasn't like a Mac publication it was a good some PPC publication but that
0:12:24you know that Max hands down we're like the best Windows machines you can have
0:12:32the best the best experience running Windows 8 is on a Mac or MacBook or
0:12:36something like that she never even had the time I say the time for that his
0:12:40passes because a new operating system that runs on PCs is chasing the wrong
0:12:46chasing the wrong train you know you got it you know the future is with these
0:12:51post-pc things and the opportunities gone for that sort of
0:12:55backdoor try to get Apple people to switch and go back because you can't as
0:13:01far as I know I don't think you could make an operating system that ran on
0:13:04iPads you know it's to their too tightly coupled with the hardware firmware and
0:13:10stuff like that and the operating system is hardly the you know the the main
0:13:15advantage there it's the way that the operating system in the content
0:13:19ecosystem and all those things work together now it's not just that you can
0:13:23replace the OSI mean to some just to the advantage of some companies a facebook
0:13:28is using you know the fact that they don't have to replace Android to jump
0:13:34onto those phones but yeah I mean I would even if I could install Windows 8
0:13:40on my iPad I don't think I would it just doesn't seem like something I want to do
0:13:44like the curiosity just isn't there but if they had done something all new 3 45
0:13:52years ago I would have jumped on it at least it to play with it
0:13:56yeah actually wanted to ask you about something
0:14:01ok I know we want you want to talk to me about Netflix will do that in a bit but
0:14:04I i've been thinking about something that is is kind of bigger picture and
0:14:09you know for the last several weeks I've been thinking like all write a post
0:14:14about this someday but I just don't have time I'm too busy with city notes now my
0:14:18travel startup so I think I've been thinking about is you know this is kind
0:14:27of the big picture with Apple which is why are people why has Apple done so
0:14:32well over the last few years and what what can we learn from that would help
0:14:37us determine whether it's going to continue to do so well over the last
0:14:41over the next several years and there are several reasons why people continue
0:14:46to buy Apple stuff you know for people like you and I have used Macs forward
0:14:51for the last ten fifteen twenty years it's because we know them well and we
0:14:56you know and we've used the marlboro lights in world oil to them to some
0:15:01people it's the quality of products
0:15:03but I think there's also a population and I don't know how big it is but
0:15:07people who you know if you look at those great a simple charts of the the growth
0:15:12of the iPad being so much faster than the growth of the iPhone which was so
0:15:17much faster than the growth of the iPod and Mac and it's it's the people who've
0:15:21joined Apple the most recently that's maybe the biggest population and and I
0:15:26wonder how loyal they'll be and I wonder if what attracted them to Apple is not
0:15:31necessarily the quality or the legacy but just that its new and and cool and
0:15:39you know how sustainable is that and that's kind of what I've been wondering
0:15:43is you know that people often say all Apple needs a disruptive new product or
0:15:47or a new product category or something like that and then the response of them
0:15:51is well we got to in the last in the last five years and three in the last
0:15:55decade i mean that's asking a lot to have another one so quickly after that
0:16:00but but maybe that's what people are looking for they're looking for that new
0:16:04that sense of newness and and not to say that Apple's necessarily in a fetish
0:16:09state but that people maybe aren't so tied to the experience for the quality
0:16:16but they are attracted to that sense of newness and I was curious what you
0:16:20thought about that is a good question I mean I think you know traditionally
0:16:25Apple's customers have been exceedingly loyal almost extraordinary so and and I
0:16:30think you can easily make the case that it's their customer loyalty that saved
0:16:36them at their low point in the mid nineties when you know before the next
0:16:42acquisition and etcetera it was the loyalty of the people who remained that
0:16:46saved them because there was you know enough people to buy oh you know a
0:16:51million or so max quarter for a few years until they turn the ship around
0:16:55you know which was not that big a number compared to the whole PC industry but
0:17:00you know a million two thousand or so dollar computers per quarter is enough
0:17:05money to keep apple you know alive
0:17:08and now when they're selling about 40 30 40 50 million iOS devices a quarter
0:17:18something like fifty fifty five million iOS + iPod so price sixty million
0:17:25quarter roughly and you know obviously that fluctuates with the holiday quarter
0:17:29and with a big you know it combined with the fact that the holiday quarter has
0:17:34now seems to be the new device quarter so it fluctuates but that's huge and
0:17:40that's really at a radically different number than the million or so max that
0:17:45they used to sell order how how loyal are those people that's a good question
0:17:52I don't know I think that they're probably pretty loyal I think they're
0:17:58more loyal than those in most companies customers and last loyal then the the
0:18:06traditional Mac user base like I think it's because if you look at all of these
0:18:12devices Apple has ever sold I would not be surprised if something crazy like 90%
0:18:18of them have been sold in the last five years I just made that number up but
0:18:22that would I think it probably does work out like that really do even in the last
0:18:27ten years or something like that or or something like that I think it's heavily
0:18:32front-loaded in the last couple of years and the other thing too especially in
0:18:37the last five years the at you know the iPhone to iPad era is really the first
0:18:42time when you would think most of their customers have multiple devices because
0:18:47before the iPhone you know there were certainly professional people who had
0:18:53but the desktop Mac and the Mac Book you know go back
0:18:57PowerBook and iBook for every you know however far back you go but you know
0:19:03normal people usually only have one computer I mean that's you know
0:19:07computers you know especially with a further back in time you go the more
0:19:10expensive they were right and so now i think is the you know I wouldn't have a
0:19:15quite right and a proforma right where you would replace one and it would be on
0:19:21use it for as many years as you could
0:19:24whereas now I think that there's sort of an expectation that the typical Apple
0:19:31user has both an iPad and iPhone and if they do by you know if they do switch
0:19:37from Windows they're gonna buy a Macbook right if you look at the trailer at the
0:19:42airport it's a it's a MacBook and an iPad and iPhone sitting on top of each
0:19:46other which theoretically you know especially if I club does its job should
0:19:52force loyalty you know not force it but you know should encourage loyalty and
0:19:59that was one of the things that people thought about the App Store that all I
0:20:02got my phone I'm not gonna switch away you know because you know if I get
0:20:09Android then I won't have any of my apps or something like that but it's funny I
0:20:13was sitting in a bar with a with a good old friend of mine who you know it a PC
0:20:18and high school and probably has a Mac date as Mac now and as an iPhone he's
0:20:23like i think im to get rid of this iPhone and get a Samsung and I'm like
0:20:26why would you do that I don't know yeah you know there was most of the people I
0:20:34would guess that had windows in the PC era where it didn't have windows because
0:20:39they thought it was great
0:20:40or because they loved it they just had windows because it was what you know is
0:20:44what you would get some of them you know for app compatibility or office or a lot
0:20:50of it I think was the the cost Windows PCs row is much cheaper but now you know
0:20:56he likes his iPhone got no problems with it but it's like maybe I'll get a
0:21:01simpson I don't know why I just thought that was interesting it and a lot of the
0:21:06people who have bought Apple stuff again you know if it's something crazy like 75
0:21:10to 90 percent who who were first time Apple customers in the last five to 10
0:21:15years
0:21:16you know what if what if they drift a little I don't know now that that's out
0:21:21there are certainly more people on the planet left who have not become Apple
0:21:25customers left and those who have so and that's why you see all the stuff that
0:21:29they are doing in China and and no maybe not so successfully in other places like
0:21:35India but but I know that's something I was thinking about it I was tryna come
0:21:40up with a you know with a post to do it kept getting to log in my head just talk
0:21:46about it then I have to write anything I did a lot and I think that there is a
0:21:51big difference with the App Store versus what Windows software was at the heyday
0:21:57of windows monopoly which is that at that point there was a real
0:22:01compatibility problem where you know just take the office stuff well you know
0:22:06if you had you know . doc files and Excel files it was really really hard to
0:22:15get by if you had to expect get them somebody who you work with was going to
0:22:20give you one and you had to use the tracking changes thing in word or
0:22:24whatever it was almost impossible when still might really be effectively
0:22:28impossible even today to get by using anything other than word you really
0:22:35needed it was that was the software that we used to have that would convert PC
0:22:41files to Mac files I forgot the name of it I know but it never worked good no I
0:22:46mean it would work enough that you could read it but it didn't work well enough
0:22:49to seamlessly interchanging go back and forth you know without Apple the Mac
0:22:58floppy drives could read PC discs and write them but the PC once couldn't read
0:23:03and write Mac disk so I was even operating for a while using my Mac with
0:23:08PC formatted floppy disks just so I could get them to a friend at school or
0:23:13something like that that was so it wasn't just said that the office
0:23:17wouldn't run on the Mac it was that you needed for me conversion software and
0:23:23the right format of a floppy disk
0:23:25to transfer that file whereas now days you know you just throw it on Dropbox
0:23:29sir you know a lot of its even just web based there are no files are you know
0:23:34jpegs are very cross platform right like software as a whole has moved to being
0:23:42just friends to services and formats that are standard and all just come in
0:23:48over the air by HTTP right i mean it's like if you switch to Android you still
0:23:53can get Instagram and you're still gonna get your Facebook and Twitter and you
0:23:57can still hook up your email and you're still going to browse the same web and
0:24:02you know I don't think I mean I think that you know the software as a whole
0:24:08list all janky
0:24:10it's nowhere near as nice but you don't really miss out you know you can just if
0:24:16you just if you like if your friend dropped his iPhone in the toilet
0:24:20you know make the decision tomorrow and he just as I can help them just gonna go
0:24:24with the Samsung it's you know there's not it's not like when you switch from a
0:24:29Mac to a PC and you've got this huge hassle of moving over 60 gigabyte hard
0:24:33drive and all these files in learning about how the four you know you don't
0:24:36have to worry about any that you just you know it distorted go with it and
0:24:40just assume that most of your shit is in the cloud anyway and you know and not to
0:24:45disparage anyone but I kind of assumed that most people don't necessarily
0:24:49notice or care that much of the difference in the software giant penis
0:24:54to begin with that certainly didn't really hold windows back I think that
0:24:59they notice it but I don't think it's the deal breaker that it is for picky
0:25:02people like us right yeah I think that they notice it but that's just not a
0:25:07deal breaker same thing with build quality of the funds I think everybody
0:25:11can kinda tell that like a sista Samsung in particular because for example
0:25:15everybody you know it's you know we're seeing a really weird things I think
0:25:20we'll see how the results go but everybody seems to acknowledge that just
0:25:24leave the iPhone out of it take the whole Apple vs Android politics out of
0:25:28it everybody seems to acknowledge that the best Android phone on the market
0:25:31today is the HTC One that is a better hardware
0:25:35it looks certainly looks way nicer it's a very they do they're very beautiful
0:25:39devices and even the software looks better it's just seems you know it just
0:25:43seems much more tasteful design and it's not south
0:25:47you know it does it seem like Samsung is still gonna win because the dynamics of
0:25:52that are not being better alone is not enough to see almost seems to be in the
0:26:00position Apple used to be in a long time ago where they're designing better stuff
0:26:05but they're not just not gaining traction yeah although unlike Apple I
0:26:10don't think it's something that they can easily take themselves out of 10 for
0:26:15Apple they know they made it work well and so it gets back to your question of
0:26:20how loyal the people I maybe loyalties the wrong way to think about it and I
0:26:24think that I think the traditional problem that Apple used to have was that
0:26:29people just didn't even consider buying back it just didn't enter their brains
0:26:35they just didn't have the mindshare this mass market you know people even
0:26:40considering it and I've said this before and I've still never been able to find
0:26:44the URL to it but it was a long time ago it was in the nineties and so I think it
0:26:48was even Apple maybe even commissioned the survey but it was you know an exact
0:26:53numbers don't really matter but the gist of it was though that in the in the
0:26:58personal computer market meaning not not the enterprise people buying computers
0:27:02for themselves
0:27:04I was like like 90% of all consumers never even considered buying a Mac and
0:27:13of the 10 percent who did half of them did buy a Mac and that was like where
0:27:18Apple's 5 percent market share came from was that like so they only have like
0:27:22five percent market share but it was fifty percent of the people who even
0:27:27considered by a Mac and they just could not break through and get more people to
0:27:31even think about it and clearly you know that's no longer problem for them
0:27:36and that's why their market share has has done so well and so I don't know
0:27:42that loyalties it I think that the reason I think the reason that Apple is
0:27:45in pretty good shape for the that say the next five years is that at the very
0:27:50least almost anybody in the markets where they're strong like North America
0:27:58and Western Europe if you're in the market for a new cell phone in the
0:28:06market for a tablet or at least gonna think about an iPhone or iPad right
0:28:11there's a level of awareness that's that's different now but you know is
0:28:16that is that fashion or is that you know legitimate awareness of a product I
0:28:23don't know why it seems like there could be an element of a fashion involved
0:28:28where people got iPods and Macs because they were cool or because you know
0:28:34people are using them I don't know I don't know I don't think it's gonna be a
0:28:41significant upheaval or anything like that but I do question you know just how
0:28:49kind of tight and everyone is right and there is like the stickiness today and
0:28:55and you know the the the equivalent of like you know where people were tied the
0:29:00windows in the long ago days because you had to have word had to have Excel you
0:29:03needed something I could read these puppies you needed a computer that could
0:29:07hook up to exchange in your office and so it had to be windows like it's not
0:29:12the operating system anymore that's people are tied to but they're tied to
0:29:15things like their gmail account right because nobody who has twenty thousand
0:29:20emails in Gmail and who enjoys using Gmail is gonna switch to something else
0:29:24so they're only going to use their only alibi device that Gmail works well how
0:29:31sticky is iCloud for people like that like I don't think the App Store's the
0:29:35sticky thing I think I cloud is the thing that needs to be sticky
0:29:38people need to be addicted to having their photos in photostream the same way
0:29:44that you can type in your Twitter and Instagram credentials on any you know
0:29:48anything
0:29:49days and have you know your whole history there in front of you that
0:29:53should be the goal for iCloud and you know as as has been well documented I
0:30:00would say that's going questionably so far I sent you a link though if you see
0:30:05it yeah I do so this this is something that I like you said Apple had this
0:30:10thing called the Mac advocate program where this is from 1997 you would go on
0:30:16their website and sign up for these CD roms and they would send it to you for
0:30:22free I think I ordered the maximum which was like 10 of course I still have like
0:30:26seven of them left and they were pretty amazing they were full of Apple
0:30:32propaganda ranging from this video of Guy Kawasaki welcoming you and he's
0:30:39basically they weren't hyper cards but they kind of seemed like them almost
0:30:44PowerPoint presentations about why are you can convince your friends to buy a
0:30:48Mac graphics are hilarious like really cheesy stock videos maybe you should run
0:30:54the show notes that there is such a thing but I recently found this when I
0:31:00went back home to Chicago and and I booted up my sister's old blue iMac and
0:31:07took a bunch of screenshots of it and posted it last year so this is pretty
0:31:11great stuff on here and all the Apple commercials and it'll of course the
0:31:16video busted here's bill gates talking about the Mac how awesome it is this is
0:31:22the best thing the very best again as a look at the new but this is great this
0:31:25it's a slide this is why Apple is the best choice
0:31:28ease of use and it's true that it was you could make you should have been able
0:31:34to make an ease of use argument but their their example
0:31:37is it simple to increase the performance of software applications by selecting
0:31:41more memory right from the desktop and it's that old thing if people are going
0:31:46to believe this if they didn't use the classic Mac OS but what you would do is
0:31:50select the app in the Finder do get info and part of the info panel for the app
0:31:55was memory requirements and there is a suggested size from that at a minimum
0:31:59size in a preferred size and you can edit the minimum and preferred size and
0:32:04that was how much RAM the application got like when you launch the app it got
0:32:09as much RAM as you the user assigned to it which is it's insane to think that
0:32:16that's how the Mac used to work and it's even more insane it's quadrupling in
0:32:21saying that Apple was advertising that is a feature in 1997
0:32:28go in and get Photoshop more RAM and takes them away from wordperfect her or
0:32:32whatever it was it really good apps I can I think Photoshop is on but I know
0:32:37BBEdit BBEdit is part of the reason to be it was so brilliant was BBEdit you
0:32:42didn't give more memory BBEdit somehow was smart enough to be able to allocate
0:32:45memory on its own
0:32:47on the fly from the system heap so it actually was bad to give BBEdit more
0:32:52just let BBEdit have its default which was really low and then it would open it
0:32:57would it would grab more memory on its own and let go of it when you close big
0:33:00documents and I think photoshop work like that too but one of them and it was
0:33:05either Photoshop I think our quark also had a separate memory section in its own
0:33:09preferences file where you could set some of that stuff was photoshopping it
0:33:15was with the scratch disk space to
0:33:17but this is great looks like someone went nuts with power tools or something
0:33:22yeah forty percent of people surfing the net using a Mac and great like 3d
0:33:28graphic anyway this is something I think it's hard to believe that these graphics
0:33:33came out about yeah and this was like and I had there there was a follow-up is
0:33:38like a second disc but it wasn't really wasn't as good as it's actually kind of
0:33:42cheesy like it's it's pretty funny and this was after jobs came back to things
0:33:48they did look at mail in cyber dog yeah I mean I hate to laugh at Cyberduck
0:33:54because the whole show on cyber dog Bieber should some day but it never
0:34:00really shit like nobody ever really got to use cyber dog I never never used it
0:34:06in fact I'd forgotten about it until I saw this I remember cyber dog as like
0:34:14you know it at the time may be one of the worst things
0:34:18you know who knows if Apple to suffers again going forward it probably won't be
0:34:24in any way a mirror of what happened Apple in the nineties but one of the
0:34:27many problems without bond in the nineties was that they would repeatedly
0:34:31hype something that was supposed to come a year later and never actually came it
0:34:38was never you know thanks to paraphrase Yoda you know never your mind on where
0:34:45you are whatever the hell you to tell salute you know it was never about what
0:34:48Apple actually had for you to use and buy right now
0:34:51was always like this great new operating system Telligent you know our cyber dogs
0:34:57we're gonna write revolutionize email and web browsing but not yet gonna come
0:35:00next year and in the meantime you know you've got this web browser that's
0:35:05nowhere near as good as you know what you can get on Windows right well and
0:35:12that's kind of where they seem to have done a 180 and now kind of lead the
0:35:16world it not over over hyping stuff and not announcing stuff until it's ready
0:35:20whereas pretty much everyone else is still
0:35:24especially at the video game guys like their six levels of of teasing before
0:35:28you get to before they ship video game console that kind of stuff which seems a
0:35:34little ridiculous but it does let me take a break and me thank our first
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0:35:43email is still just mentioned in email still the number one form of business
0:35:48and personal communication on the internet and according to them and I
0:35:54believe this ninety percent of every single email sent on the internet as
0:35:58spam I wouldn't be surprised that it's higher so male round now this is a team
0:36:03that originally created Microsoft Forefront they put together they have a
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0:36:10really really need super simple all you do is you point your domains MX records
0:36:15if you have your own domain name you point the mail records at mail route and
0:36:19now route points it back to you
0:36:20takes about a second so your email goes through them first then goes to your
0:36:24server takes about a second on average per message so what one second delay on
0:36:29your email
0:36:29big deal
0:36:30you know of any hardware to install any software install all you do is have your
0:36:35email go through them first before it goes your server and they take out all
0:36:39the spam and it works it is fantastic
0:36:44you can go there and check it out see all the details of how they do it they
0:36:48have some great write-up about like the greatest thing they do this is it's a
0:36:51super clever feature what they do with the greatest thing is a good mail server
0:36:58a real mail server one that sends legitimate mail like let's say you're
0:37:01the mail server on the one sending email I send mail to you you can say to me hey
0:37:06I'm busy right now try again in a minute and a good mail server that sending the
0:37:10mail that's normal it handles and says oh ok a minute later send the email
0:37:14again they do that for the first time you get an email from any recipient the
0:37:19reason it works is that all of these bots that are out there the PCs that
0:37:24have been hacked and are in these botnets and they're sending all this
0:37:27damn they're not hooked up to handle that they just send the email and keep
0:37:31going on so they never handle that sort of thing where the receiving server can
0:37:36say hey send this message again in one minute and then I'll take it that alone
0:37:41filters out a whole bunch of the junk so if you've got like an email account on
0:37:44your own to me that you host that is just like inundated with spam all this
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0:38:31do one thing do it well that type of service really really good stuff and I'm
0:38:36always fascinated by how few I think there'd be more services like that that
0:38:41plugins his mail such an open thing that plugin and you know do a lot of smart
0:38:47stuff on the server side and then presented to you in your in your inbox I
0:38:54would think so it is crazy can you imagine launching the service today that
0:38:58was like that's like email like where anybody who just knows your name can
0:39:04just send you stuff it in hindsight it is just kind of insane and it just shows
0:39:09how naive you know the the old internet you know from the seventies and eighties
0:39:15really was right it would never happen now because the cup that companies are
0:39:20you know and so in control of their like how many decades it at eight just to
0:39:25open up instant messaging between various services yeah able to aim
0:39:31someone on Gmail or something like that I don't know I did the genius of these
0:39:36guys and I really encourage everybody's go check it out enriquez it's
0:39:39fascinating to see how they describe attacking but I really like to think
0:39:43that to me it was a real eye-opener is that they're not just analyzing the
0:39:46messages you know and like doing a Bayesian analysis of the content of the
0:39:50message to see if it's pam is that they're they're trying to identify the
0:39:54machines that are actually sending spam which ended you know it seems like most
0:39:59of that spans all coming from these these hacked PCs and that it they know
0:40:03they've figured out ways to figure out hey this is not a legitimate mail server
0:40:11yes sir I recently got silent I was respectfully staying quiet during their
0:40:18so Netflix yeah there was a big story in business week and then on Netflix and
0:40:30how well they've been doing and you know it by all accounts not just you know and
0:40:34and apples example that the stock market doesn't necessarily tracked actual
0:40:38success of the company but Netflix is done really really well in the
0:40:42in the time after that the tobacco when they when they know when they first
0:40:47tried to dump the mailing disk thing when they try to get out of the disc
0:40:53business and spin that often and at stock price tanked and the customers
0:40:57relieving and ever since then they're really doing great the stock is way up
0:41:02used you know your ships way up there people are signing up so here's the stat
0:41:07from business week is that on a normal weeknight Netflix accounts for almost
0:41:10one-third of all internet traffic entering North American homes more than
0:41:15YouTube Hulu amazon.com HBO Go iTunes in BitTorrent combined who knows about
0:41:24actually truly but it's you know I've seen a lot seems you know and it seems
0:41:28like it's probably a legit statistic
0:41:31yeah I guess I mean maybe BitTorrent surprises me a little but I guess that
0:41:36that is always been kind of a an edge activity like not a mainstream thing and
0:41:42to me it makes sense I mean that's Netflix is the mainstream long form
0:41:48video service on the Internet like you know you'll watch YouTube for a couple
0:41:52of minutes and a low bit rate so it doesn't matter how much bandwidth to
0:41:57using but Netflix you will watch for hours in high def and you know that
0:42:04makes sense to me what else is the bandwidth it's it's not like it's
0:42:07possible bandwidth usage period its actual usage so it's not like you know
0:42:16the potential capacity of all home internet connections in the country its
0:42:21actual downloads so yeah and you know and have another factor too is that
0:42:26they've done a really good job of working out partnerships with just about
0:42:33anybody who has a set-top box that plugs into a TV right there on Apple TV there
0:42:41on I think they're on PlayStation and PlayStation think so they're they're on
0:42:48pretty much all those every brand of television every game system I think
0:42:53they're even on the
0:42:53now right every every tablet every every phone you know basically anything with
0:43:01the screen can play netflix which is something that I don't think any other
0:43:06service has has approached that level of ubiquity certainly not iTunes because
0:43:12Apple won't put it on anything that's not made by Apple and Amazon is not as
0:43:18widely distributed so I guess the one that would surprise me as YouTube I
0:43:22quite as in you to do more but I think they're trying to but I think it's
0:43:29because YouTube people think of YouTube is a place where you go and watch 24
0:43:33minute videos you know right
0:43:35music videos in cat riding a skateboard and and shit like that whereas nobody
0:43:41really thinks I'm gonna go watch a feature film or or a show I mean and
0:43:46obviously I think a big part of Netflix's success is thats where people
0:43:49go to bend you watch shows you know I'm gonna go get into homefront
0:43:56I don't really know pump runs on Netflix but if you do probably is
0:44:02you start watching Netflix and that's where these out you know forty
0:44:06eight-minute TV show episodes come in and then you watch the next one and then
0:44:11the next one so I think that's where I wouldn't be surprised if people watch
0:44:15more individual videos from YouTube but that's not as much aggregate video right
0:44:22and YouTube is trying to get more into the longer form stuff but not like it's
0:44:28their only goal because actually their their business model you know show a
0:44:32bunch of ads works better with short form i think im said interrupting a
0:44:37movie eight times get someone to watch 24 minute videos or something like that
0:44:43and then you could put an add between all of them
0:44:45whereas Netflix you know is a subscription-based service they're happy
0:44:49to have you watched an unlimited amount of video as long as you're paying near
0:44:53eight bucks a month I was skeptical about Netflix when their stars deal
0:44:59collapsed as the stars thing was where stars as like this sort of obscure at
0:45:07least to me is sort of HBO type cable channel where they have like HBO where
0:45:13they have feature films and they have original programming but stars has
0:45:18feature films and and good ones too they had all the Disney stuff right like a
0:45:25big a deep archive of old movies that they had the right exactly like lots and
0:45:31lots of old Disney movies actually wrote a post 10 stars movies to stream on
0:45:36Netflix before they go away and there was like Scarface Toy Story 3 mallrats
0:45:41not like necessarily the newest new releases but still movies that you would
0:45:47have heard of before unlike a lot of the stuff but Netflix and what happened it
0:45:51was it's it's sort of like a beautiful bit you know everybody loves to complain
0:45:55about lawyers but some somewhere there was a lawyer who did this is like like
0:46:00lowering at its best
0:46:03somebody figured out that stars had worked out a contract with their
0:46:07standard contract with all these studios allowed them not just to put these
0:46:12things on their cable channel but to also put them on the internet and they
0:46:17had no way stars didn't have like absurd anything land and when these contracts
0:46:20are written but there it seems like everybody agreed to it because it never
0:46:24it nobody actually thought it was going to happen you know it was just like a
0:46:28clause in there that they you know among the rights that they have for these
0:46:30movies for this time period is the right to put it on the internet and
0:46:34furthermore I guess somebody you know figured out I probably had Netflix that
0:46:38the contract also didn't are also allowed them to resell those rights or
0:46:44two to partner with somebody else to have those rights so Netflix had all of
0:46:49his movies not because Netflix worked out the rights to have them through all
0:46:54these studios but all they did have a deal with stars to allow them to
0:46:58broadcast the movies that started it and so you know this because whenever you
0:47:03started those movies there would be a little stars bumper at the beginning of
0:47:07it you know that the equivalent of the day HBO and that under down you know
0:47:15that the stars equipment was before it so when that when that deal expired and
0:47:21that was one year and a half ago when did you write February 2012 so I was
0:47:27pretty close so a little bit over a year ago I really thought that puts us in
0:47:30trouble because that's when I use Netflix most for almost all of my
0:47:34Netflix viewing was movies that they'd had three stars and they don't they
0:47:40really don't Netflix does not have a lot of good selection of movies anymore I
0:47:45think I don't think at that point they had said that stars was eight percent of
0:47:52their viewing so actually was before that so that's a that's adding that
0:47:59shows that I'm I was in it was me being in a typical networks user not that
0:48:04stars that essential to it you know and I was a little too
0:48:08self centered about what what I thought other people were doing on Netflix
0:48:14yeah and that's the thing that another thing that folks always did well even
0:48:17going back to the DVD days was having this this extremely deep library of
0:48:23stuff in effect actually just last week resub scribe two DVDs to get a couple
0:48:29things that you still couldn't get anywhere online and try and I get a free
0:48:35months I've been getting it just some random stuff sent to me but like some of
0:48:38it is very obscure like a documentary about Ron Santo the World Cups player
0:48:43that I don't think I'd ever find online but sure enough there it is on DVD and
0:48:48Netflix so so but it's interesting they have signed some more so more deals to
0:48:55get more stuff but other studios are also going away and and Netflix
0:49:02meanwhile is doing its own content as well
0:49:05house of cards arrested development and so far they've done quite well with it I
0:49:11think I don't know if you watched house of cards I haven't yet I'm definitely
0:49:15going to there's a hundred percent chance but I haven't it's it's good I
0:49:19mean it's not like I wouldn't I didn't watch The West Wing and not really a Dec
0:49:24politics kind of guy but Kevin Spacey's good I mean it's a little weird at the
0:49:29beginning but it gets it gets really good and and apparently that got them a
0:49:34lot of new subscribers and arrested development probably will too and
0:49:39it seems to be that that Netflix is like the same person you know something that
0:49:45belongs in every scene household anyone who watches TV should probably have a
0:49:49reason to subscribe to Netflix at this point but that's something that's gonna
0:49:55last for a long time or not
0:49:57yeah and it's an interesting business model because they're not asking a lot i
0:50:01mean you know $8 a month is here that's how much of your cus thats nothing but I
0:50:11mean it was so you know what youre talking in the ballpark of $100 a year
0:50:15which is not nothing but it's certainly nothing compared to what we are used to
0:50:19paying for cable for me over $100 a month so I think it is for most people
0:50:24and probably watch as much Netflix as cable sometimes maybe not all the time
0:50:31but sometimes especially when we're binging through a series or something
0:50:34like that so I think they're doing well I think that they're they're on to
0:50:39something and i think that the original programming is obviously a big part of
0:50:42it but I posted a a chart earlier this week which you linked to and exits funny
0:50:48every time I write about AOL the chart showed how basically as AOL has lost
0:50:54subscribers over the last 10 years
0:50:57netflix has gained them in almost perfect symmetry Netflix is now bigger
0:51:03than a while ever was
0:51:04but if it's kind of cool chart it's one of my favorite charts visually that I've
0:51:09ever made which is kind of showing this looks like a como most of it while
0:51:14declining in Netflix growing and a guy who writes for real clear technology one
0:51:21of the things I ask in the post was you know what what is what's gonna hurt
0:51:26Netflix eventually what's going to cause them to eventually fizzle out if
0:51:29anything you know something that's gonna be mobile oriented the Netflix can't do
0:51:34or what's going to be and and and the guy had some interesting points one of
0:51:41them was the potential for internet providers to
0:51:45we talked about how Netflix is maybe a third of the bandwidth used you know if
0:51:51if they were to charge for bandwidth by the Gigabyte the way that they do on
0:51:55wireless networks you know and all the sudden Netflix cost a lot more than
0:52:00eight bucks a month to use that's certainly potentially not good for them
0:52:06or another one could be that they would continue to lose contracts for content
0:52:12until now
0:52:14netflix has been a source of new revenue for a lot of D TV studios who all the
0:52:19sudden had a a place where they could make money off their old shows no one's
0:52:23gonna pay 40 bucks and iTunes for season one of you know seasons one through five
0:52:28of Mad Men but someone will certainly tear through them on Netflix but at some
0:52:34point more content owners studios TV networks may kind of figure out oh well
0:52:41you know if if there's an audience for this stuff maybe we should own that
0:52:44maybe we should have the Warner Brothers I think Warner Brothers is actually
0:52:48building their own online subscription-based movie service so I
0:52:55don't like about that most people have no idea what the hell studio made
0:52:59certain movies like nobody thinks like that nobody thinks let's go watch a
0:53:03Warner Brothers movie no wonder I mean I guess you kind of have to do that with
0:53:07TV shows like where if you want to watch Game of Thrones you know you gotta go to
0:53:11HBO GO
0:53:12by right but there's only four TV networks writer you know the movie
0:53:20studios are there and who who is ever even thought about what movie studio
0:53:24owns it besides maybe Disney yes that's why the one that has the most
0:53:27recognition but even so even if you know it I think that's why the Netflix is
0:53:32doing so well is that you just know all you have to know is go to Netflix open
0:53:37up netflix on your Apple TV you're fired up on your Playstation or on your iPad
0:53:41or something like that and you can find something and you don't have to worry
0:53:44about who made it you know was that warner brothers or was it universal or
0:53:48fox or whatever it's just there nobody like that yeah so i dont and then you
0:53:55know all those even if they were to do that with they get the distribution
0:53:59deals that Netflix has and probably not I mean Apple TV is not going to have at
0:54:04least at this point maybe if there's an app platform and Apple TV and I think it
0:54:09was three years ago I predicted this year will be the year of the Apple TV
0:54:13app store right who knows that I won't be surprised you know I think it's
0:54:19coming but there have been so few changes to that software and so many new
0:54:26people buying and using it that they gotta do something eventually I think
0:54:31we're waiting on a better remote I think it's it's going to be a next generation
0:54:35Apple TV was some kind of better I don't know if I can make any prediction about
0:54:40what it's going to be but I think something better than an infrared up
0:54:44down left right play pause to facilitate more than just play pause apps where the
0:54:52best thing is that for whatever reason my tv remote and the Apple TV remote are
0:54:57on the same whatever frequency or something so whenever I try whenever I
0:55:03go left right on the AppleTV it changes the input on my TV also have to wait and
0:55:08infrared is such a hack but I'd love for you know I'd love to see FaceTime on
0:55:14there and stuff like that right
0:55:15it seems like a natural yeah the insidious part about what Netflix is
0:55:21competing against is the way that the interests of internet providers or not
0:55:27it was no almost nobody who's an internet provider is really just an
0:55:32internet provider there the cable companies right and the cable companies
0:55:36don't want to just sell you at $20 a month internet connection they want to
0:55:41sell you these you know what are we paying $120 a month you know package
0:55:46that has TV and Internet and so it's not in their interest to have people using
0:55:52Netflix right getting used to it and thinking all you need is Netflix so that
0:55:56you know it's not really I i think that the the complaints from cable companies
0:56:01about all we have to charge by the Gigabyte because you know poor us it's
0:56:06not really that they have to her that they can't make money doing it it's that
0:56:09it busts up their monopoly that lets them charge what I think is you know not
0:56:15what the fair market value is for all the video content you get from cable
0:56:19right yeah exactly and if if they start to see that you know 25 or even 50%
0:56:27someday of video watching is happening over the internet and not over the cable
0:56:33you know we overpaid vastly for cable TV we as consumers and the cable companies
0:56:40like Comcast Time Warner profit from that but the channels due to right
0:56:45there's this year you can google all these stories about how that works for
0:56:49you pay your cable bill of $120 a month or whatever you know three dollars goes
0:56:54to ESPN and $2 goes CNN and a lot of these flagship channels and eat so even
0:57:00if you know your yeah it really I believe it you absolutely have to have
0:57:07ESPN because people who watch sports
0:57:09absolutely have to happen but and I'm sure that you know that this audience
0:57:13you know the the nerds out there listening to this show I'm sure there's
0:57:16a ton of them who haven't put ESPN on endeavour in their life because they
0:57:21don't they don't watch sports and yet they're paying $5 a month every month 60
0:57:26bucks a year
0:57:27you know which is almost what you pay for for Netflix right watch what you
0:57:32want and you choose to do it and cancel at anytime right obviously the fairway
0:57:37to price it would be Alucard and the only people who would pay for ESPN or
0:57:40the people watching ESPN but that bus the monopoly and you end up paying
0:57:44everybody would end up pain a lot less well but anyone who wanted ESPN would
0:57:51have to pay more
0:57:5320 bucks a month right exactly because if you know if only a quarter of the
0:57:58people are watching ESPN and you they still have to make the same amount of
0:58:02money although Peter Kafka wrote the story couple days ago her baby yesterday
0:58:05about what would happen this year the circumstance which is basically ESPN
0:58:10will go to the sports leagues and say all right well can't pay you a billion
0:58:13dollars anymore for for your games anymore so good luck good luck with that
0:58:18right
0:58:19they would recoup some of their expenses somehow but it would still cost a lot
0:58:22more per channel and a lot of the channels we would have let's just go
0:58:26away
0:58:27which i think is fine actually destruction but there's an awful lot of
0:58:32entrenched business interests that are all based on the idea that every
0:58:39household is paying 70 80 90 100 $220 a month for cable and that there's this
0:58:45big amount of money and that they're not watching it right so when when Fox pays
0:58:49four billion dollars a year to broadcast Sunday NFC games it's not because
0:58:55everybody watches NFC games but everybody's paying for it right the
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0:59:25their language not mine it's effectively your own private Dropbox so you hook up
0:59:30the transporter you can get it with a hard drive or you can buy one without it
0:59:34and supplier on 2.5 inch drive put it on your network you sign up with trance
0:59:40Porter people with an account and all the account does the cloud part all it
0:59:45does is poked a hole through your firewall at home so that you can access
0:59:49this thing from everywhere
0:59:51your stuff doesn't get stored on their servers it gets stored on the device you
0:59:56own and control and its peer-to-peer so you can have two of them and no mirror
1:00:02each other and you can have one of them upstairs one of them downstairs you can
1:00:05have one in your house when your office you don't want your house one at your
1:00:09folks house so that you have a backup so that the whole thing is mirrored between
1:00:14the two and it all just goes here to peer and you can share files and folders
1:00:21with other people just like with Dropbox you can say here's a shared folder for
1:00:25me and Dan and only mean you can see it but it's stored on my file transporter
1:00:31and if you haven't filed transporter it would be mirrored on yours as well so
1:00:36it'd be faster peace be right there under local network it's a really clever
1:00:40idea the big emphasis why would you use this was a big thing as privacy right
1:00:43because you control the hardware you know that the only place where your
1:00:48stuff is stored on this device that you have in your hands you can see you can
1:00:52hold and you can control like I said you can buy one without a drive supply run
1:00:582.5 inch drive 499 or even easier you can just buy one terabyte model $2.99 or
1:01:05two terabyte model 399 that's the only costs involved you dared sorta like
1:01:11Apple they just want to sell your hardware 199 299 399 401 are two
1:01:17terabytes and that's the only thing you pay your account is free and that's all
1:01:23there is to it it's really really great
1:01:25very great idea and it's from the people who originally made the Drobo this is
1:01:31the engineering and design team that made the Drobo and so what that did
1:01:34personal file storage now they're doing for distributed cloud file storage I
1:01:40encourage you go find out more at filed transporter dot com slash talk that's
1:01:46that's the way you came from the show while transporter dot com slash talk and
1:01:50find out more and listeners the show you can save 10% on your purchase by using
1:01:56the discount code talk all lowercase TLK and save 10% on those prices I just told
1:02:03you about it filed transporter dot com slash talk and actually did here last
1:02:08week show and I looked at this and I'm in the market for something like this
1:02:12right now it sounds interesting to me the biggest thing like you know there's
1:02:16there's a couple options there be something like this and then I'll be
1:02:19uploading everything to some sort of cloud storage but one of the things hold
1:02:24me back from the cloud storage is that it would take me probably a month or two
1:02:29months just to upload everything I have over a terabyte of stuff on my computer
1:02:33I don't even know if time-warner would let me upload all that somewhere I tried
1:02:38so I looked at signing up for a photo sharing a photo library site the other
1:02:43day and I realize that I have 400 gigabytes of picture how do you upload
1:02:49that somewhere so local and you can kind of pick and choose on demand I need this
1:02:55this folder and so the big file transfer would only go on your local network it's
1:03:00right there just in your house never goes anywhere outside just from your
1:03:03computer to the file transporter and then you can access it from anywhere
1:03:06they have I didn't even mention they have iPhone and iPad apps so you can
1:03:10just access from anywhere if you wanted to get it you're 400 gigabyte selection
1:03:14of trials or for photos or something which I only ever need one or two at a
1:03:19time so I'm gonna check this one out one last thing before we end the show here
1:03:24is the last time I talked about is a site tweet from you yesterday after your
1:03:28training here this was a Patton Oswalt that is but there's somebody in
1:03:33Tokyo you said that your your phone got shut your iPhone I presume got got
1:03:42terrible battery life in Japan and you think it's because you were roaming on
1:03:453G as opposed to getting LTE
1:03:47and I'm really struck a chord when I was in Dublin for the all-conference last
1:03:53month third to last month my phone had the worst battery life and I did that
1:03:58thing where I gotta have a Verizon iPhone I can just put a a local SIM card
1:04:03and I just paid like 20 bucks and got a local SIM card with you know a couple
1:04:07hundred megabytes of data so I didn't have to pay any money paid 20 bucks but
1:04:11I didn't have to pay any roaming but my battery life in Dublin was shit i mean
1:04:16by the end of the day I was just out I mean I was looking around for power
1:04:20charges and some and I think it's cuz I was on 3G oh yeah I hindsight since I
1:04:26have the iPhone 5 I've been abroad three times I think and what I was in Japan
1:04:33hanging out with my friend last december it was terrible it was my iPhone 5 in
1:04:41New York laughs when I go to bed I am rarely below 30% usually you know even
1:04:4950%
1:04:50it's plugged in all day it's not plugged in all day it's just it's very efficient
1:04:55have a very strong Verizon signal everywhere I go
1:04:58you know that my battery is is not even in the top ten complaints about the
1:05:03iPhone 5 but when I was in Japan which you know it's funny like for how long
1:05:09did we we we kind of made fun of it in the USA for having horrible what
1:05:14wireless and now you don't you go to places like Asia and Europe where 44
1:05:18ever they were making fun of us then you go there and this isn't actually that
1:05:21could you guys talking about but yeah when I was there I would I was the guy
1:05:28making random hotel to let me charge my phone
1:05:32you know in their lamp cord you know because my phone is dead and I couldn't
1:05:38i couldn't get in touch with my friends so and what and when we were in Europe
1:05:43to have the same problem in France on this funny was one carrier in
1:05:48in the second time I went back and I had a different SIM card from a different
1:05:51French carrier the battery life was better so I wonder you know this is me
1:05:57making stuff up now I wonder what if there's a specific I guess in France
1:06:02would make sense because everything's kind of in the same frequency levels
1:06:04there but I wasn't in Japan I was roaming on two different carriers one
1:06:10was Softbank which is GSM based in the other was cdma-based and the CDMA was
1:06:18the worst like the battery would just die so quickly whereas the GSM one was
1:06:22was a little better but even still like nothing like I get home I would have to
1:06:28charge it at least twice a day
1:06:31fully and at that point and have one of those the new movies so yeah I had but I
1:06:40had i didnt have still not have the case for the iPhone 5 I just haven't the
1:06:45standalone yes I know what they call the things that you can plug in
1:06:51I'm done by K smokey's I think I am 231 you know I just use them right and I
1:07:01hate putting it in my phone and stupid thing anyway so even when I did use the
1:07:05case I'd carry in my other pocket and I don't put it on I need it but then you
1:07:09know it takes up as much space in my pocket is the break thing does the only
1:07:12house with the brick thing is that you have to have a cable right like I wish
1:07:16that it just had like a little cold out
1:07:19lightning plug you know that you could just pulled out and snapping into your
1:07:25iPhone but that they don't want to pay Apple for the Lightning thing I guess so
1:07:30here's another post that I never did which was I even did a whole photo shoot
1:07:35and everything what I want is a lightning to USB stick the size of the
1:07:42OS 10
1:07:44install rescue disk yeah like ricky is flat as a key and all it is is the USB
1:07:54sensors on one side and the lightning bolt lightning lightning connector on
1:08:02the other end you can just pass power to it so if you are you could even just go
1:08:05to a cash register some store and stick your phone in there for a few minutes
1:08:08and in charge of for something like and I would think you would make it out of
1:08:12something that's pretty stiff but not super stiff so have been a little bit
1:08:16slightly rubbery nasa that you know if your phone is it you know you plug it
1:08:21into your MacBook to a phone you could put the phone on the table it wouldn't
1:08:25be just picking up in the air and you could snap it off you know just have a
1:08:28great great product I would buy that someone Kickstarter that please
1:08:35for that but I think that'd be really cool and I did I like I tired to gather
1:08:39stuff you know this if I posted a half the stuff that I come up with half my
1:08:46memory at all
1:08:48was me and Michael lob we both had the MOT breaks like letting other people
1:08:53borrow them are fishing them out so that we could use them to recharge their
1:08:57phones because the phones are dying so quick so I imagine we're now going to
1:09:00hear from you know 75 electrical engineers about exactly this you know
1:09:06either were full of it and we're just using our phones more because we're not
1:09:09at home or something like that but I really do think that there's something
1:09:13there that maybe the 3G network is less efficient its ports polling for a signal
1:09:19harder or something like that that's making the battery life force and we
1:09:24could have done some research before the show but instead why not let her smart
1:09:28readers just tell us to other theory and I could be all wet on this maybe I'm
1:09:32just point it right on my ass is May because we have Verizon iPhones the way
1:09:36the antennas are tuned when you are on GSM through you know I said maybe it's
1:09:43it's not worried you know it's not optimal
1:09:46for that I'm trusting and maybe that's why we get worse battery life but I
1:09:50remember and it's not remember thinking maybe I am using it more than I am but I
1:09:54remember even the day that I spoke at war and I spent like two hours before
1:10:00rights folk rehearsing and then I spoke for an hour and then immediately went to
1:10:05dinner in the venue so I that was like a four hour period where I was not on the
1:10:11phone at all because it's been two hours rehearsing and going over my notes and
1:10:16then an hour talking and then like at least an hour at dinner before I even
1:10:20like really even took out my phone and did anything with it and I remember
1:10:23noting that the battery had gone down significantly in the time I hadn't even
1:10:27taken out of my pocket and yeah I don't think I think we're onto something I
1:10:33don't know what it is but anybody anybody out there knows what's going on
1:10:37let me know and I'll do it what is Siracusa call it a few I do it after you
1:10:43next week
1:10:44can fix this please fix it and from where people should go and check out the
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