00:00:00 ◼ ► so in the news this week it seems that he does one of the things that's come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/0">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► it seems like this is the week I don't know maybe it's just me maybe just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/4">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► I read this week but it seems like this is the week where everybody is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/7">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► come to the conclusion that Windows 8 is failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/10">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► yeah I was actually thinking about that too and it's not that it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/15">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► literally nobody is buying it at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/20">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► not a Vista times a hundred million people have bought or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/24">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► that yeah a large number of people but it seems to me that you know this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/28">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► of those things where Microsoft s too not just kind of approach expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/33">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► but has to far exceed expectations in order to be thought of as really doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/39">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► well and you know Windows Phone is a is a similar example and I posted about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/45">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► this many times which is you know that's not this is not a place where they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/50">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► just do okay this is so important to the future of Microsoft that just doing ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/54">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► is is a massive failure here and in only huge success would be you know is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/60">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► only acceptable solution there so i i think thats exactly what we're seeing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/66">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► that it's it is pretty good and it's pretty popular but that's just not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/71">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► enough especially as you know the PC market itself heads into the into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/75">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► toilet basically and in the future of what you know what you know if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/83">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► trend holds up the shift to tablets and mobile devices you know the share of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/89">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► Windows on those devices is you know single-digit or low double-digit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/95">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► that's not going to work for the best for the biggest software company in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/100">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► world you know they can sure that they have the enterprise business and and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/104">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► that sort of stuff which which could very well be a large profitable business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/109">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► for Microsoft but hard to see that being as big or as dominant as Windows was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/113">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► yeah and I i think i kind of I nailed half of it two years ago when they first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/123">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► wrote a piece about how it's the title but some about how it was a bad idea to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/131">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► compete against the iPad and my argument and I think has proven to be exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/136">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► right is that the appeal of the iPad is is largely based on all of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/141">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► that it can't do because it makes it so simple and having a system where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/148">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► have all the complexity of windows and a simple interface over there to the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/152">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► isn't gonna do it and I think that's proven right now only and that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/157">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► that's only really half the story which is that Windows 8 wasn't going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/163">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► competitive against the iPad in this new space of tablet devices the part that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/167">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► didn't think about and it just died I just never really occurred to me was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/174">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► that it was going to also proved unpopular as a PC operating system for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/179">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► people using it on desktops and traditional laptops right which actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/184">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► makes complete sense when you think about it i mean you know my my the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/190">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► reason I still do all my work on a Mac and iOS is that there are certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/195">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► functions that lend themselves very well having a keyboard and trackpad shifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/201">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► between many windows at a time being able to go and look at an old email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/206">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► while I'm writing a new email those are things that I OS does very poorly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/210">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► that the Mac still does extremely well and I certainly wouldn't want to run iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/215">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► on my Mac at least not anytime soon so I could see how that would kind of cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/219">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► the windows experience to rate now is that metro or what you know what used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/224">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► be called Metro isn't really something you want on your desktop and all Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/231">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► is definitely not something you on your tablet so I just never really thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/236">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► about that other half of the story and the thing that I keep seeing I've seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/241">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► couple of stories this week and I believe it is that a lot of people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/244">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► it and honestly they have trouble putting their computer to sleep or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/248">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► turning the computer off because they can't figure it out because the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/252">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► thing they've ever known what to do is go to the start menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/255">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► you and that's where you go to shut down and it's it's actually that all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/258">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► everybody used to make fun of it is how do you shut down Windows computer go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► the start menu right which is kind of linguistically counterintuitive but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/266">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► everybody knew to do that and now that the Start menu is gone nobody knows how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/271">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► to help a shot off their computer and that's it right but I understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/275">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► because think about the iPad right there how do you shut off the iPad within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/282">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► software there is no way because it's you know it's this one cohesive it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/286">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► it's not it's not just operating system it's a device and so they put this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/291">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► obvious power button up in the corner and thats you just tap that but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/296">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► just put it in your purse without turning it off and then her style me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/305">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► that was me national yeah so you actually can do that though if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/309">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► put your iPad in your purse or whatever without turning it off it will shut off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/320">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► in a couple minutes it will it will mean unless I guess unless you leave it lets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/325">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► you leave it streaming Netflix little oriental accidentally do stuff like call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/329">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► me or something but I used to call it the pants style in fact there's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/336">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► was like my pride of age 25 I think when I was working at forbes was saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/341">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► term pants dial on CBS Radio that was confused enemies but right pants is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/346">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► obviously one of the one of the best words in the English language because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/355">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► nobody will argue that is anything you know it's even vaguely scandalous but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/359">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► there is something vaguely inappropriate about it it's funny it just sounds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/363">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► looks funny it's a great word senses that Letterman's production company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/368">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► Worldwide Pants the greatest in the history of the universe like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/372">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► the other I guess the flip side of this thing with Windows 8 is this is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/381">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► official this is the thing I'm not a hundred percent on it has Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► officially come out and said that the Start menu is coming back there are no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/393">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► haven't hit following that it seems as though people you know in the know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/398">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► Mary Jo Foley and and other you know really well sourced Microsoft reporters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/402">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► are saying it and it seems like you can bet money on it but that there's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/408">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► to be one of a kind of Windows blue and i know i think they did officially said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/412">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► it's slated for later this calendar year it's going to come out sometime in 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/418">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► but that is going to have a preference that and I guess OEM can turn it on by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/421">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► default to boot to the traditional Windows look on if that's appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/428">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► for your device is this like a service pack or something like that I mean yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/433">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► I think it's in between you know I don't think I think you know it doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/437">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► fit and you know it's like an in-between update its not like a point one update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/443">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► but it's not like a major new version of Windows Update you know it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/448">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► service com service packs anymore and it kind of got away from that but that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/452">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► song with the the cover band thing ruined it I don't know the Vista sp1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/457">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► song constantly Bruce Springsteen cover band well I think that makes sense I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/462">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► mean if if people are saying hey look we you know we don't really care that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/472">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► about how Windows works but don't take away our start button I think that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/476">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► a fair compromise I mean the idea that Windows 8 is going to be some fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/481">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► change in how Windows works and how people think of it obviously is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/487">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► going to the ideal plans and also isn't the guy who kind of design all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/493">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► gone anyway so why not so you know perfect opportunity for Microsoft ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/501">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► alright well those guys are gone we're gonna we're gonna fix windows and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/506">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► it the way that that you and I both love it or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/510">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► yeah you know you never know though from the outside you know who knows maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/513">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► Sinofsky actually didn't wasn't endorsing the idea of making everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/519">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► see Metro as their default look you never know maybe in Austin argument and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/525">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► maybe that's partially why he left you know but you get the feeling that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► probably was his idea cuz he you know his reputation had a lot of control over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/533">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► it I really like your old idea which was that they should have made something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/537">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► that you know that maybe even only booted on a Mac at first and just new OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/541">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► that you know the people could get excited about it didn't have all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/546">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► baggage and that would be a way for them to to really move forward without having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/549">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► to support you know thirty years of stuff and it seems like it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/554">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► been cool you know I maybe I would have even install it where it's windows 8 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/559">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► just have no curiosity about it at all and it seems like the surface is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/564">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► basically you know they copied the wrong iPad seems like something that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/569">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► have been may be interesting a few years ago but I my old idea I came up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/575">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► this with my friend Jason Hoffman is the Yankees CTO at Joint years ago I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/582">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► think the time to do it would have been years ago like around 2008 or so but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/588">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► was it was all stemming from that picture that picture that was widely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/592">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► circulated at the college class it was like a college lecturer and 97% of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/596">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► kids in the room had a Mac notebook in front of them and there's I one poor kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/603">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► enough run with it or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► and it was you know I forget with just you know some random University in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/610">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► middle of the country and it was in any kind of there is no particular reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/616">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► why it should be the Apple centric and now it was yeah it wasn't anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/619">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► that was just like you know I can 101 and kids taking lecture notes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/625">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► and it just showed how overwhelmingly popular Apple notebooks have become an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/629">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► RA deal was that what Microsoft should do is they should just put together put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/635">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► let him pick a hundred engineers take a hundred engineers go off and be like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/642">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► know like the Mac team was in nineteen eighty-four put a pirate flag up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/647">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► make their own new operating system and do whatever they want they want to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/651">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► with Linux instead of the Windows kernel let him do it you know do whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/656">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► under the hood for compatibility they could use something like VMware you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/661">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► that type of thing Microsoft even has something like that and let it run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/666">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► Windows in an emulation layer you know like classic classic Mac OS was if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/669">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► wanna meet their Microsoft they can do whatever they want with Windows right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/675">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► situation want to put Windows compatibility thing let him do it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/678">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► but go you know go blue sky and tell everybody wants you really see it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/683">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► this is not the new version of Windows this is a new thing we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► developing Windows Windows is on its own track there's you know Windows the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/691">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► version is coming right out we're you know we're just working on the future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/696">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► this thing and then the brilliant yet brilliant idea I think would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/700">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► if if as a beta you said and as the beta it only runs on Macs just because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/703">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► you have this small target of hardware to to to support any idea would be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/709">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► try to get people who you know young people and curious people to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/717">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► play around with it I think the opportunity for that was over because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/722">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► this point if a Mac can be the best computer to run Windows why can't a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/727">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► also be the best PC right now that's exactly true and I you know there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/733">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► just that polio other week that came out where somebody you know I forget it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► but it wasn't like a Mac publication it was a good some PPC publication but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/740">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► you know that Max hands down we're like the best Windows machines you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/744">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► the best the best experience running Windows 8 is on a Mac or MacBook or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/752">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► something like that she never even had the time I say the time for that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/756">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► passes because a new operating system that runs on PCs is chasing the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/760">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► chasing the wrong train you know you got it you know the future is with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/766">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► post-pc things and the opportunities gone for that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/771">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► backdoor try to get Apple people to switch and go back because you can't as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/775">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► far as I know I don't think you could make an operating system that ran on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► iPads you know it's to their too tightly coupled with the hardware firmware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/784">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► stuff like that and the operating system is hardly the you know the the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/790">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► advantage there it's the way that the operating system in the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/795">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► ecosystem and all those things work together now it's not just that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/799">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► replace the OSI mean to some just to the advantage of some companies a facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/803">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► is using you know the fact that they don't have to replace Android to jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/808">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► onto those phones but yeah I mean I would even if I could install Windows 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/814">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► on my iPad I don't think I would it just doesn't seem like something I want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/820">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► like the curiosity just isn't there but if they had done something all new 3 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/824">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► years ago I would have jumped on it at least it to play with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/832">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► yeah actually wanted to ask you about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/836">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► ok I know we want you want to talk to me about Netflix will do that in a bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/841">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► I i've been thinking about something that is is kind of bigger picture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/844">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► you know for the last several weeks I've been thinking like all write a post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/849">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► about this someday but I just don't have time I'm too busy with city notes now my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/854">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► travel startup so I think I've been thinking about is you know this is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/858">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► of the big picture with Apple which is why are people why has Apple done so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/867">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► well over the last few years and what what can we learn from that would help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/872">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► us determine whether it's going to continue to do so well over the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/877">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► over the next several years and there are several reasons why people continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/881">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► to buy Apple stuff you know for people like you and I have used Macs forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/886">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► for the last ten fifteen twenty years it's because we know them well and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/891">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► you know and we've used the marlboro lights in world oil to them to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/896">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► people it's the quality of products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► but I think there's also a population and I don't know how big it is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/903">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► people who you know if you look at those great a simple charts of the the growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/907">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► of the iPad being so much faster than the growth of the iPhone which was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/912">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► much faster than the growth of the iPod and Mac and it's it's the people who've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/917">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► joined Apple the most recently that's maybe the biggest population and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/921">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► wonder how loyal they'll be and I wonder if what attracted them to Apple is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/926">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► necessarily the quality or the legacy but just that its new and and cool and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/931">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► you know how sustainable is that and that's kind of what I've been wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► is you know that people often say all Apple needs a disruptive new product or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/943">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► or a new product category or something like that and then the response of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/947">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► is well we got to in the last in the last five years and three in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/951">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► decade i mean that's asking a lot to have another one so quickly after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/955">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► but but maybe that's what people are looking for they're looking for that new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/960">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► that sense of newness and and not to say that Apple's necessarily in a fetish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/964">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► state but that people maybe aren't so tied to the experience for the quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/969">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► but they are attracted to that sense of newness and I was curious what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/976">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► thought about that is a good question I mean I think you know traditionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/980">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► Apple's customers have been exceedingly loyal almost extraordinary so and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/985">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► think you can easily make the case that it's their customer loyalty that saved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/990">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► them at their low point in the mid nineties when you know before the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/996">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► acquisition and etcetera it was the loyalty of the people who remained that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► saved them because there was you know enough people to buy oh you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► million or so max quarter for a few years until they turn the ship around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► you know which was not that big a number compared to the whole PC industry but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1015">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► you know a million two thousand or so dollar computers per quarter is enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► money to keep apple you know alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► and now when they're selling about 40 30 40 50 million iOS devices a quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► something like fifty fifty five million iOS + iPod so price sixty million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► quarter roughly and you know obviously that fluctuates with the holiday quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► and with a big you know it combined with the fact that the holiday quarter has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► now seems to be the new device quarter so it fluctuates but that's huge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► that's really at a radically different number than the million or so max that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► they used to sell order how how loyal are those people that's a good question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► I don't know I think that they're probably pretty loyal I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► more loyal than those in most companies customers and last loyal then the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► traditional Mac user base like I think it's because if you look at all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► devices Apple has ever sold I would not be surprised if something crazy like 90% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► of them have been sold in the last five years I just made that number up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► that would I think it probably does work out like that really do even in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► ten years or something like that or or something like that I think it's heavily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► front-loaded in the last couple of years and the other thing too especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► the last five years the at you know the iPhone to iPad era is really the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► time when you would think most of their customers have multiple devices because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► before the iPhone you know there were certainly professional people who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► but the desktop Mac and the Mac Book you know go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► PowerBook and iBook for every you know however far back you go but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► normal people usually only have one computer I mean that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► computers you know especially with a further back in time you go the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► expensive they were right and so now i think is the you know I wouldn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► quite right and a proforma right where you would replace one and it would be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► use it for as many years as you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► whereas now I think that there's sort of an expectation that the typical Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► user has both an iPad and iPhone and if they do by you know if they do switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► from Windows they're gonna buy a Macbook right if you look at the trailer at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► airport it's a it's a MacBook and an iPad and iPhone sitting on top of each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► other which theoretically you know especially if I club does its job should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► force loyalty you know not force it but you know should encourage loyalty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► that was one of the things that people thought about the App Store that all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► got my phone I'm not gonna switch away you know because you know if I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► Android then I won't have any of my apps or something like that but it's funny I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► was sitting in a bar with a with a good old friend of mine who you know it a PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► and high school and probably has a Mac date as Mac now and as an iPhone he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► like i think im to get rid of this iPhone and get a Samsung and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► why would you do that I don't know yeah you know there was most of the people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► would guess that had windows in the PC era where it didn't have windows because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► or because they loved it they just had windows because it was what you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► what you would get some of them you know for app compatibility or office or a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► of it I think was the the cost Windows PCs row is much cheaper but now you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► he likes his iPhone got no problems with it but it's like maybe I'll get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► simpson I don't know why I just thought that was interesting it and a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► people who have bought Apple stuff again you know if it's something crazy like 75 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► to 90 percent who who were first time Apple customers in the last five to 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► you know what if what if they drift a little I don't know now that that's out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► there are certainly more people on the planet left who have not become Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► customers left and those who have so and that's why you see all the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► they are doing in China and and no maybe not so successfully in other places like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► India but but I know that's something I was thinking about it I was tryna come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► up with a you know with a post to do it kept getting to log in my head just talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► about it then I have to write anything I did a lot and I think that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► big difference with the App Store versus what Windows software was at the heyday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► of windows monopoly which is that at that point there was a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► compatibility problem where you know just take the office stuff well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► if you had you know . doc files and Excel files it was really really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► get by if you had to expect get them somebody who you work with was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► give you one and you had to use the tracking changes thing in word or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► whatever it was almost impossible when still might really be effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► impossible even today to get by using anything other than word you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► needed it was that was the software that we used to have that would convert PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► files to Mac files I forgot the name of it I know but it never worked good no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► mean it would work enough that you could read it but it didn't work well enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► to seamlessly interchanging go back and forth you know without Apple the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► floppy drives could read PC discs and write them but the PC once couldn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► and write Mac disk so I was even operating for a while using my Mac with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► PC formatted floppy disks just so I could get them to a friend at school or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► something like that that was so it wasn't just said that the office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► wouldn't run on the Mac it was that you needed for me conversion software and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► the right format of a floppy disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► to transfer that file whereas now days you know you just throw it on Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► sir you know a lot of its even just web based there are no files are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► jpegs are very cross platform right like software as a whole has moved to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► just friends to services and formats that are standard and all just come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► over the air by HTTP right i mean it's like if you switch to Android you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► can get Instagram and you're still gonna get your Facebook and Twitter and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► can still hook up your email and you're still going to browse the same web and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► you know I don't think I mean I think that you know the software as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► it's nowhere near as nice but you don't really miss out you know you can just if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► you just if you like if your friend dropped his iPhone in the toilet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► you know make the decision tomorrow and he just as I can help them just gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► with the Samsung it's you know there's not it's not like when you switch from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► Mac to a PC and you've got this huge hassle of moving over 60 gigabyte hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► drive and all these files in learning about how the four you know you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► have to worry about any that you just you know it distorted go with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► just assume that most of your shit is in the cloud anyway and you know and not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► disparage anyone but I kind of assumed that most people don't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► notice or care that much of the difference in the software giant penis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► to begin with that certainly didn't really hold windows back I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► they notice it but I don't think it's the deal breaker that it is for picky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► people like us right yeah I think that they notice it but that's just not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► deal breaker same thing with build quality of the funds I think everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► can kinda tell that like a sista Samsung in particular because for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► everybody you know it's you know we're seeing a really weird things I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► we'll see how the results go but everybody seems to acknowledge that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► leave the iPhone out of it take the whole Apple vs Android politics out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► it everybody seems to acknowledge that the best Android phone on the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► today is the HTC One that is a better hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► it looks certainly looks way nicer it's a very they do they're very beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► devices and even the software looks better it's just seems you know it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► seems much more tasteful design and it's not south [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► you know it does it seem like Samsung is still gonna win because the dynamics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► that are not being better alone is not enough to see almost seems to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1552">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► position Apple used to be in a long time ago where they're designing better stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► but they're not just not gaining traction yeah although unlike Apple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► don't think it's something that they can easily take themselves out of 10 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1570">TS</a>]
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00:28:16 ◼ ► that is that fashion or is that you know legitimate awareness of a product I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► don't know why it seems like there could be an element of a fashion involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► where people got iPods and Macs because they were cool or because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1708">TS</a>]
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00:28:41 ◼ ► significant upheaval or anything like that but I do question you know just how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1721">TS</a>]
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00:29:12 ◼ ► the operating system anymore that's people are tied to but they're tied to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1752">TS</a>]
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00:30:00 ◼ ► would say that's going questionably so far I sent you a link though if you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1800">TS</a>]
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00:30:10 ◼ ► thing called the Mac advocate program where this is from 1997 you would go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► their website and sign up for these CD roms and they would send it to you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► free I think I ordered the maximum which was like 10 of course I still have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► seven of them left and they were pretty amazing they were full of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1826">TS</a>]
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00:30:39 ◼ ► basically they weren't hyper cards but they kind of seemed like them almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► PowerPoint presentations about why are you can convince your friends to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► Mac graphics are hilarious like really cheesy stock videos maybe you should run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► the show notes that there is such a thing but I recently found this when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1854">TS</a>]
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00:31:07 ◼ ► took a bunch of screenshots of it and posted it last year so this is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► great stuff on here and all the Apple commercials and it'll of course the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1871">TS</a>]
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00:31:22 ◼ ► the best thing the very best again as a look at the new but this is great this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► it's a slide this is why Apple is the best choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1885">TS</a>]
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00:32:28 ◼ ► go in and get Photoshop more RAM and takes them away from wordperfect her or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1948">TS</a>]
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00:32:47 ◼ ► on the fly from the system heap so it actually was bad to give BBEdit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/1967">TS</a>]
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00:39:09 ◼ ► how naive you know the the old internet you know from the seventies and eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► really was right it would never happen now because the cup that companies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► you know and so in control of their like how many decades it at eight just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► open up instant messaging between various services yeah able to aim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► someone on Gmail or something like that I don't know I did the genius of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2371">TS</a>]
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00:39:46 ◼ ► messages you know and like doing a Bayesian analysis of the content of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► message to see if it's pam is that they're they're trying to identify the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► machines that are actually sending spam which ended you know it seems like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► of that spans all coming from these these hacked PCs and that it they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► they've figured out ways to figure out hey this is not a legitimate mail server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► yes sir I recently got silent I was respectfully staying quiet during their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► so Netflix yeah there was a big story in business week and then on Netflix and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► how well they've been doing and you know it by all accounts not just you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► and apples example that the stock market doesn't necessarily tracked actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► success of the company but Netflix is done really really well in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► in the time after that the tobacco when they when they know when they first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► tried to dump the mailing disk thing when they try to get out of the disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► business and spin that often and at stock price tanked and the customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► relieving and ever since then they're really doing great the stock is way up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► used you know your ships way up there people are signing up so here's the stat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► from business week is that on a normal weeknight Netflix accounts for almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► one-third of all internet traffic entering North American homes more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► YouTube Hulu amazon.com HBO Go iTunes in BitTorrent combined who knows about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► actually truly but it's you know I've seen a lot seems you know and it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► like it's probably a legit statistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► yeah I guess I mean maybe BitTorrent surprises me a little but I guess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► that is always been kind of a an edge activity like not a mainstream thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► to me it makes sense I mean that's Netflix is the mainstream long form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► video service on the Internet like you know you'll watch YouTube for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► of minutes and a low bit rate so it doesn't matter how much bandwidth to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► using but Netflix you will watch for hours in high def and you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► makes sense to me what else is the bandwidth it's it's not like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► possible bandwidth usage period its actual usage so it's not like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► the potential capacity of all home internet connections in the country its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► actual downloads so yeah and you know and have another factor too is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► they've done a really good job of working out partnerships with just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► anybody who has a set-top box that plugs into a TV right there on Apple TV there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► on I think they're on PlayStation and PlayStation think so they're they're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► pretty much all those every brand of television every game system I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► now right every every tablet every every phone you know basically anything with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2573">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► the screen can play netflix which is something that I don't think any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► service has has approached that level of ubiquity certainly not iTunes because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► Apple won't put it on anything that's not made by Apple and Amazon is not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► widely distributed so I guess the one that would surprise me as YouTube I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► quite as in you to do more but I think they're trying to but I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► because YouTube people think of YouTube is a place where you go and watch 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► music videos in cat riding a skateboard and and shit like that whereas nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► really thinks I'm gonna go watch a feature film or or a show I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► obviously I think a big part of Netflix's success is thats where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► go to bend you watch shows you know I'm gonna go get into homefront [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► I don't really know pump runs on Netflix but if you do probably is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2636">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► you start watching Netflix and that's where these out you know forty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► eight-minute TV show episodes come in and then you watch the next one and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► the next one so I think that's where I wouldn't be surprised if people watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► more individual videos from YouTube but that's not as much aggregate video right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► and YouTube is trying to get more into the longer form stuff but not like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► their only goal because actually their their business model you know show a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► bunch of ads works better with short form i think im said interrupting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► movie eight times get someone to watch 24 minute videos or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► and then you could put an add between all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► whereas Netflix you know is a subscription-based service they're happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► to have you watched an unlimited amount of video as long as you're paying near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► eight bucks a month I was skeptical about Netflix when their stars deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► collapsed as the stars thing was where stars as like this sort of obscure at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► least to me is sort of HBO type cable channel where they have like HBO where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► they have feature films and they have original programming but stars has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► feature films and and good ones too they had all the Disney stuff right like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► big a deep archive of old movies that they had the right exactly like lots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► lots of old Disney movies actually wrote a post 10 stars movies to stream on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► Netflix before they go away and there was like Scarface Toy Story 3 mallrats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► not like necessarily the newest new releases but still movies that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► have heard of before unlike a lot of the stuff but Netflix and what happened it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► was it's it's sort of like a beautiful bit you know everybody loves to complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► about lawyers but some somewhere there was a lawyer who did this is like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2755">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► somebody figured out that stars had worked out a contract with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► standard contract with all these studios allowed them not just to put these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► things on their cable channel but to also put them on the internet and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► had no way stars didn't have like absurd anything land and when these contracts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► are written but there it seems like everybody agreed to it because it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► it nobody actually thought it was going to happen you know it was just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► clause in there that they you know among the rights that they have for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► movies for this time period is the right to put it on the internet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2790">TS</a>]
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00:46:38 ◼ ► the contract also didn't are also allowed them to resell those rights or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► two to partner with somebody else to have those rights so Netflix had all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► his movies not because Netflix worked out the rights to have them through all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► these studios but all they did have a deal with stars to allow them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► broadcast the movies that started it and so you know this because whenever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► started those movies there would be a little stars bumper at the beginning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► it you know that the equivalent of the day HBO and that under down you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► that the stars equipment was before it so when that when that deal expired and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► that was one year and a half ago when did you write February 2012 so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► pretty close so a little bit over a year ago I really thought that puts us in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► trouble because that's when I use Netflix most for almost all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► Netflix viewing was movies that they'd had three stars and they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► really don't Netflix does not have a lot of good selection of movies anymore I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► think I don't think at that point they had said that stars was eight percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► their viewing so actually was before that so that's a that's adding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► shows that I'm I was in it was me being in a typical networks user not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► stars that essential to it you know and I was a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► self centered about what what I thought other people were doing on Netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► yeah and that's the thing that another thing that folks always did well even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► going back to the DVD days was having this this extremely deep library of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► stuff in effect actually just last week resub scribe two DVDs to get a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► things that you still couldn't get anywhere online and try and I get a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► months I've been getting it just some random stuff sent to me but like some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► it is very obscure like a documentary about Ron Santo the World Cups player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► that I don't think I'd ever find online but sure enough there it is on DVD and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► Netflix so so but it's interesting they have signed some more so more deals to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► get more stuff but other studios are also going away and and Netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2935">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► meanwhile is doing its own content as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► house of cards arrested development and so far they've done quite well with it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► think I don't know if you watched house of cards I haven't yet I'm definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► going to there's a hundred percent chance but I haven't it's it's good I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► mean it's not like I wouldn't I didn't watch The West Wing and not really a Dec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► politics kind of guy but Kevin Spacey's good I mean it's a little weird at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► beginning but it gets it gets really good and and apparently that got them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► lot of new subscribers and arrested development probably will too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► it seems to be that that Netflix is like the same person you know something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► belongs in every scene household anyone who watches TV should probably have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► reason to subscribe to Netflix at this point but that's something that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► yeah and it's an interesting business model because they're not asking a lot i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► mean you know $8 a month is here that's how much of your cus thats nothing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► mean it was so you know what youre talking in the ballpark of $100 a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► which is not nothing but it's certainly nothing compared to what we are used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► paying for cable for me over $100 a month so I think it is for most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► and probably watch as much Netflix as cable sometimes maybe not all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► but sometimes especially when we're binging through a series or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► like that so I think they're doing well I think that they're they're on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► something and i think that the original programming is obviously a big part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► it but I posted a a chart earlier this week which you linked to and exits funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► every time I write about AOL the chart showed how basically as AOL has lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► subscribers over the last 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► netflix has gained them in almost perfect symmetry Netflix is now bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► but if it's kind of cool chart it's one of my favorite charts visually that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► ever made which is kind of showing this looks like a como most of it while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► declining in Netflix growing and a guy who writes for real clear technology one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► of the things I ask in the post was you know what what is what's gonna hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► Netflix eventually what's going to cause them to eventually fizzle out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► anything you know something that's gonna be mobile oriented the Netflix can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► or what's going to be and and and the guy had some interesting points one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► them was the potential for internet providers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► we talked about how Netflix is maybe a third of the bandwidth used you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► if they were to charge for bandwidth by the Gigabyte the way that they do on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► wireless networks you know and all the sudden Netflix cost a lot more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3115">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► eight bucks a month to use that's certainly potentially not good for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► or another one could be that they would continue to lose contracts for content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► netflix has been a source of new revenue for a lot of D TV studios who all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► sudden had a a place where they could make money off their old shows no one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/3139">TS</a>]
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01:09:06 ◼ ► either were full of it and we're just using our phones more because we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/4146">TS</a>]
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01:09:13 ◼ ► there that maybe the 3G network is less efficient its ports polling for a signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► harder or something like that that's making the battery life force and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► could have done some research before the show but instead why not let her smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/4164">TS</a>]
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01:09:43 ◼ ► it's not worried you know it's not optimal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/4183">TS</a>]
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01:10:11 ◼ ► phone at all because it's been two hours rehearsing and going over my notes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyKl-WA/4211">TS</a>]
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