00:00:00 ◼ ► you know it speaking of the the old talk show you know this was last week I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/0">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► commemorated I guess it was announced it would have been a week before I skip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/5">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► show that it's it's a year since I started doing the show here at me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/8">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► a week what will have happy anniversary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/16">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► that's exciting one year has gone by pretty quickly and power the how are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/20">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► hot hot under the collar longtime fans who who were like kind of not so happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/27">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► about your transition you know i i don't really look at the iTunes I don't hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/36">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► from any more nobody got some email at first but most of it was in the iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/41">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► comments and I don't look at them that much anymore but still show up this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/46">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► seems like there's every once in a while I'll look at the comments and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► one and I think well as an alt comment because there's somebody commenting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/57">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► it like it just happened and then a look at the data owner comment yesterday and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/61">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► it's very mean I get over it you know what I I was actually thinking of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/66">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► and thinking about all the whole way that played out recently when I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/71">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► kind of Washington commiserating with you know commiserating from afar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/77">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► actually with Marco Arment about this whole you know everyone's giving you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/81">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► hard time about how much he did or didn't maker should or shouldn't be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/84">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► to people and all this stuff and it's just that certain that there's a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/89">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► kind of personality out there that I think no matter who you are if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/94">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► some level of success I'm going to try to chip away at it was going to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/99">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► I think it's like just like it's like a defensive gesture on their part maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/105">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► like explain I don't need to be may be jealous or envious of this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/111">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► horrible person who you know once changed a feature and Instapaper that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/116">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► made me somebody mad I don't know what it is but there's like there's two types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/122">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► of people as well as more than two tax but there's at least two times people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/127">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► one major group of them is this group of people who are like with you and for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/130">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► and strongly in support of everything you do and tell you do this one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/134">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► we're like oh I thought you were about you were some kind of superhero I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/138">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► think and I think Marco is of particular magnet for this is especially his recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/145">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► run of 17 what's up with that Jesus Christ is selling everything but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/150">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► he's a particular magnet for this because he's is recent run is a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/156">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► of things or even really sell the number but he was part of it so he you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/165">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► did he benefited because you know he had some sliver of a stake in it and it sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/168">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► for 27 gazillion dollars and his personality and the way he is so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/175">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► not abrasive but he doesn't bend in the face of jackasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/184">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► yeah and and what I think he's a magnet for is that there's a certain segment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/190">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► people out there who feel that if you have or if somebody else has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/194">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► successful and clearly successful then there there are free target for just any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/199">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► anything you want to throw at them because it's fair game because they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/207">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► had some kind of success and you can just sort of and and just like let off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/210">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► steam in their direction yeah actually thought about this when I was talking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/216">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► my putting show with Jackie Chang from formerly of course you still with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/220">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► technical but the famous Jackie tang and we're talking about this like spectrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► of celebrity where it's like I think people are so used to for tens hundreds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/228">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► of years if you knew somebody's name and didn't know them personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/236">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► then they must be so famous that they could take anything that's a perfect way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/241">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► to put it that's a good way to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/246">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► yeah because it will have its kinda like a modern it's kinda like a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/247">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► affordances of modern technology that we are afforded like small-scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/251">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► celebrities right like people like you would never have been on the radar of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/259">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► anybody right I mean not nice to dismiss what you doing but in the old days maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/265">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► you would've gotten a job at CBS Radio or something but if you didn't and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/272">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► were just kinda toiling away your stuff then you wouldn't have the site kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/276">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► tailored made kind of fan base and I think that there's a built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/281">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► misunderstanding of how celebrities can be treated right and then I was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/288">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► to Jackie that actually opened my eyes a little bit to the fact that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► even the real celebrities I miss guilty of it is anybody I'd say like oh sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/298">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► Madonna can take some ribbing or something but you can step back and take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/302">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► a look at like what famous people we know quote-unquote famous people all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/307">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► way up to really famous people and you say you know that John the think tank in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/312">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► your mind of the most famous the most legitimate Lee famous person that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/318">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► know well enough to make this judgment about and say doesn't that person like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/322">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► actually get their feelings hurt when somebody's total jackass to them and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/327">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► think it's true I think some of us may be hardened to it more than others but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/334">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► got a standard Jackie I bet there's some part of Barack Obama whose like it don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/342">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► anyway that's something that I think people need to catch up to this thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/351">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► hopefully it'll help lead people to understand a lot of what I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/356">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► view as judging demarco judging judging you judging me judging anybody on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/361">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► behavior and how we handle you know criticism or whatever is it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/369">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► failing to acknowledge that that's that's kind of an unusual circumstance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► having that much feedback and having that much exposure to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/378">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► yeah and I almost feel like we don't have a good word for it because I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/383">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► know I'm not a celebrity celebrity is clearly the wrong word but there are way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/387">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► more people who know me than I could possibly now and that is something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/392">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► that's and that's not a natural right now thousands of generations of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/397">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► development you to people who knew you and the people who you know is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/406">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► much one to one and maybe you were the tribal leader and slightly more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/410">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► knew you then you knew but you still saw their faces right you were still the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/417">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► tribal leader to most most cases hundreds are probably not you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/421">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► mean that that was the exception and that's really closer to you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/428">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► you're like a king or something like that it's closer to what do you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/432">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► regular meaning of celebrities yeah it's a relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/437">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► disparity what you have speaking a well-known people I should say who you r [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/443">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► everybody always complains because I like start to show you know cold open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/447">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► but you know people may not know the things I always assumed to the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/452">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► look at the show this is the disco little Matt on podcasting I assume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/456">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► with the talk show that when the new episode comes in whatever app you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/462">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► using to us into it you at least leg look at it and I always put the guest's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/466">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► name like first as a special guest Daniel jacket joins John Gruber for work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/470">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► blah blah blah but I put the guest's name right at the beginning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/476">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► description every time so that you can see all here's who's on the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/479">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► this week but a lot of people I think apparently they get email people email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/483">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► me and I'll say I just listen to your show and it was great I don't know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/488">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► was on your show I got Daniel job and I don't know how how is it Daniel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/492">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► you've never even been on the show I don't know what it is it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/498">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► relationship disparity that's what I call it my fault as you can ask to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/502">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► I have to ask you but I don't know why I've never ever had you on before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/506">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► happens but it's great to finally be here I mean I have been I have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/511">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► booster for your show so I'm very happy to see you still doing it and and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/517">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► for what it's worth not among the hot-headed you know frazzled masses when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/522">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► you decide to move over to your radio and you doing a great job there so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/528">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► is working well and are at the bottom line is I I like the show better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/534">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► that's you know doing well so i think you know it's clearly not hasn't made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/541">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► everybody happy but I can't do that but I feel like if you're not doing a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/549">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► that you like or whatever if it's in you know you're making apps if you're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/553">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► anything if you're not making something that you yourself like you're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/557">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► miserable I i dont know I can't imagine how anybody would be able to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/561">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► something if they don't like the thing that they're working on it they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► to be miserable you're getting back at you know not to harp on this but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► getting back at that whole like judging successful people saying where there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/572">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► a huge amount of expectation for like continued service to some PRI's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/578">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► previously presumed promise like for example just just to harp on the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/586">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► situation a little bit there are some people out there who undoubtedly feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/592">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► that Marcos commitment must be should have remained and should remain until he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/597">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► computers are obsolete to work on Instapaper with say right and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/607">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► or for example that you're never you know I don't anticipate you giving up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/614">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► during fireball starting a new blog but if you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/618">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► merely changing just merely ditching during fireball starting a new blog you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/623">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► let's say let's say for whatever reason to be decided it's not making you happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/630">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► looking at looking at that blog looking at the articles that come out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/634">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► you're you're unhappy you decide this is for me I'm gonna start a new blog people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/638">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► should be happy for you at that point but they wouldn't be there would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► saying you killed you killed during fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/645">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► well it would be a vocal minority though like one thing I have found over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/649">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► years and you know and and clearly during fire buzz has become very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/653">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► successful I do get a lot of emails from readers and stuff like that most of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/657">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► are just terrific really I mean just it's just amazing and and and I do feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/662">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► like it's it's like the polar opposite of having comments on a blog right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/668">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► a you know an end and I have not had comments the whole time you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/675">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► people who are in late too daring fireball often think that maybe I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/679">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► turned off comments because audiences so big and it you know and it turned bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/684">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► but I didn't have a min when I had literally like in 2002 when I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/689">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► started like a hundred page views a day and and you know sixty unique visitors I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/696">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► didn't happen then either I mean I didn't want him but I think everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/703">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► knows that if you do have comments for better for worse a lot of them a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/707">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► significant proportion of them are from jackasses whereas and I think see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/712">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► think the reason is is that the jackasses who like to meet jack ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► comments on my weblog do it because they know that pub the thing is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/722">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► you know it's a sort of look at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► right anonymously it's this anonymous I can be a jackass and get away with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/730">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► urged that that certain personalities have whereas if it's all private they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/735">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► don't did they get nothing out so I don't get i get very very very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/740">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► little I mean like you know and fully year emails that I would consider the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/745">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► equivalent of comment jackass hurry I get lots of emails from people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/751">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► disagree with me I get lots of emails from people who just want to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/756">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► they agree with me and that they really like the site but all of it is great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/761">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► mean almost all of it is just super super respectful especially the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/765">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► from people who disagree with me and then and I like those emails him better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/769">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► than the ones that agree with him because it gives me more to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/772">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► but it's by email and by any other thing too is on Twitter I it's I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/775">TS</a>]
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00:14:16 ◼ ► has a higher horse of a specialized staircase to get up on my high horse but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/856">TS</a>]
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00:14:32 ◼ ► right now been like I owe everything to my comments because when I started red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/872">TS</a>]
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00:17:05 ◼ ► predictable format of Twitter feed back the reason you can stay caught up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1025">TS</a>]
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00:18:00 ◼ ► separate open mode vs what it is that in the list and Europe its did it it fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1080">TS</a>]
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00:18:29 ◼ ► up like an email client would you be the stupidest idea for Twitter at all but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► it just showed you know something like the equivalent of a subject and you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► to like just our oh through them one at a time to actually read the tweets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1117">TS</a>]
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00:26:26 ◼ ► backup plans like it's it's not making a stop paying for my son came from a kid's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► education anything that's red sweater so yeah and you got core intuition which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► a podcast you been doing with friend of the show me an increase since forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► five years as well as of this past Wednesday but it's it's it's it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► when are you guys feel like it or do you guys have a schedule yet we are on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► strict fairly strict once a week schedule now thanks to actually sponsors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► thanks to finally just like biting the bullet and taking sponsors that was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► of a wake-up call for me because I think I've been like gradually coming out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► growing up on Usenet they know the late eighties and early nineties thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► the internet as a non commercial space obviously do all my commerce on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► internet have grown past that but there's been some kind of block for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► for years like me don't you know you don't put ads on things or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► well I was wrong about that but add that to my list of things I was wrong about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► John your high horse my horse my horse is load is getting lighter but it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► great for us to have sponsors not just because you know gives us a little money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► to keep the momentum going but it's also a kind of a vote of confidence for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► show so yeah that's true to the strip now you've also got on this is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► thing that's relatively recently as you started a new blog and now it's podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► to under the bit splitting for and that's wedding dot org I guess it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► home of both really yeah dorgan and I just typed podcast into / podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► that all came about because you know as you remember jawed over the years I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► been blogging from red sweater blog company's blog and being up on my high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► horse and doing all my ranting it always felt a little uncomfortable to me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► have that share space with what is supposedly some whites alike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► issue neutral software company ya like it doesn't it was kind of a mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► blessing because it was great when I would when I will blog about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► and it got some attention and people were thinking at around two then I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► there was a non negligible benefit to the company to income because I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► charging for anything on my blog I wasn't having ads on my blog but people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► go there they got products or product helped but there was always this nagging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► feeling either that I shouldn't blog about something I shouldn't rant against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► Apple I shouldn't complain about the most obvious types of things he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► shouldn't complain about like customer behavior or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► yeah it's a delicate balance I know exactly what youre talking especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► and I think you know for you personally your personality particularly as I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► said several times you know you like to get up on it and that's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► more it's a precarious spot when you want to you know it doesn't even have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► be politics I mean in in some sense it's all politics is not necessarily National [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► Fair politics but talking about the App Store is political in a sense yes and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► the classic sense but you you know you want to separate that from your software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► yeah and then like lots of things that just didn't try to take a step back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► say not only like is this appropriate for say the red sweater blog but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► know as the company you know the company being just me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► nonetheless as the company gets more popular and has a wider reach and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► people have heard about it they go to the site and download the products they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► think Oh I should maybe keep up with what this company is doing look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► blog and c like well this is what Nokia is doing wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► you know what what the heck does that have to do with anything right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► it's not even even if it's not about avoiding touchy subjects it that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► somehow feel like the red sweater blog really ought to be on topic for users of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► red sweater software and anything that's not really on topic for the users or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► would-be users of the software is potentially a distraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► yeah and then in the reverse is true as well as I was lucky enough to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► gaining this readership of people who were kind of maybe not even interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► in the products but interested in what I have to say I started feeling like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► we're not going to like they're not going to like this like update about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► fast groups like there's a disservice both audiences not to have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► distinction between the two to service customers who just want to keep up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► our company related stuff and the people who kind of stumbled in out of the tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► greater tech world and wanted to keep up on my my rants and perspectives so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► pretty happy with the way it worked out so far just kind of just did a soft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► launch of its putting the blog of several months ago now I guess I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► getting I'm not sure yet another part of this is I'm not really sure how much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► want to blog but it's really great to have my experience it's really great to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► have an outlet for that at that moment where you're like oh yeah I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► something to say and eluding back to the Twitter thing when it doesn't fit in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► tweet or maybe at most two tweets that's when you really need that you need some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► outlet and I think you mostly just do you must do everything through during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► fire but I know you also have a tumblr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► there must be some occasions when you when you're like this isn't really work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► for you know I Ali I guess with tumblr in particular is probably your outlet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► like when you want it you don't usually put photos up on during fireball but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► know anybody who has no new evil or even followed your work knows that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► because you don't like photos just look November 2009 I guess that dates me huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► I think they've been waiting patiently 23 posts on it I don't know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► maybe it maybe I got a file that away the one I did have the other one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► Fraidy cats one was i was just posting links to politicians who were endorsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► policies that to me implied that they are afraid of terrorists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► you know right crazy cats that tumblr.com but I haven't updated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► and that's that's an example of something that you wouldn't shy away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► from on a like occasional basis on during fire but you still kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► probably acknowledge that that's not as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► clogged up during fireball with that led to something like that but Joe in 2008 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► did I did I went pretty strong anti Sarah Palin in 2008 by far and away if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► you look back if you like graft every post too daring fireball for the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► ten years and which ones were political that there's this there is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► concentration in 2008 in the run-up but I don't regret it at all and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► explain to people at the time that I seriously thought that this was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► that this was dangerous to literally to the world that is a mentally unbalanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► and unfit person who was you know possibly going to be very close to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► get it at all and I think in the years since it's been proven right that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► woman is like a nut job yeah I know what you mean is it something something to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► almost being like a national emergency and I guess is you say it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► hyperbolic too and there's some people who are so you know they're hooked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► wrong and they couldn't they can't see it because there you know and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► like to think I really would I think I would that if if the democratic party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► which I more closely associated with politically nominated for vice president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► someone of equivalent menthol stability and and ability that I would recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► it and think well this is not even though I disagree with the other party I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► have got to vote for endorse the other party because I you know far more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► important than whether I agree with the person is whether the person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► dangerous yet another job you can we can have a maniac is you know vice president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► but I you know and and you know it's it's just a fact though that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► tweeting or posting political stuff you know and it wasn't like I said I filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► up the site with it but you know yeah I point the stuff out you know like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► it came out that she didn't read newspapers couldn't him a magazine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► pointed out listen this is the truth this is a person who doesn't even read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► magazines or newspapers you know and that's what we need in america john F it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► rational people went nuts but I think most people understood yeah you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► get something that's that seemingly off topic but it's not what Darren fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► is what I'm interested right happens to be personal interests blog that Lance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► heavily towards computers because you're so interested in its most wanted towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► stuff not because I i I keep it on focus it's because I am right so I worked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► that when I think about all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► it's a disservice to the the film and sports and politics that since computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► interests have dominated so I think it's as possible just a sign of just how bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► I am doing more than one thing at a time but how it seems to me like you alot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► in no pun intended with it but yeah but with a new blog and podcast for the blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► which is really been great I mean you've really had some great guests recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► and Jackie Chang is great and you know I gotta get on Amanda wicks said great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► great programmer she's like one of the first programmers who like I I loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► being able to cuz Jonas my son loves pac-man and she did the Pacman port for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► iPhone which is ideally Pacman Jones new until we finally found an arcade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► somewhere there were like I know I know the woman who have fun and he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► great many actually seem to have a decent wage earners Gruber finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► finally learns that you actually know some real celebrities but it's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► showing your doing good but then you've got the man thing and you still running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► a red sweater software which I presume is really your main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► yeah it's a little bit of its a little it's probably a little bit of a folly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► take on all these things to be honest but I don't know this is this is there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► a certain freedom and recklessness of true independents can lead to this end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► I keep my wife lake trout like for instance the discipline podcast that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► lot of work and we always joke that maybe it'll be like a British TV series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2335">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► right where it's like well it ran for 22 episodes and then it never aired again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► and it's kinda like the knowledge that that that that that could happen is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► of what keeps me a little bit saying on that front but Marco and Syracuse casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► you less had that idea with their car park podcast where they start our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► podcast with explicitly up front where they said we think we're gonna do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► for like five or six episodes because we think we've got like five or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► episodes of car talk to talk about but that's an interesting idea to me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► it if you come into it up front with the idea that it's going to be a mini-series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► rather than an open-ended do this forever thing it frees you to do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► that you feel like you don't really have infinite content for right now I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► like a lot of things on the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► feel like you you shouldn't either side do I feel like you shouldn't started if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► you're not going to keep up with it yes and I think that's the that's the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► nagging fear part of it is I can I actually started actually committed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► doing the podcast I was really foolish when I started I was thinking I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► do it weekly and you know how that is doing the show it's like a week goes by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/2420">TS</a>]
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00:53:38 ◼ ► it wasn't 67 posts today it was two three maybe four posts a week but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► probably more like two or three posts a week and so i i i actually literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► think that the existence of mars that it made during fireball what it is today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3234">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► because without it I would have never started the linked list I wouldn't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► if I had to do it through the web interface and movable type right now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► never would have occurred to me to do because it would seem like such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► enormous pain in the ass yeah you don't want anything where there's the turn of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► off the cuff the thing you're publishing is that respect it's like that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► the friction of going to the web can become the most grating and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► thats interesting places what's funny is that also there's there's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► things that drive people to something like mars the opposite is true when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► people are used to just writing like the long form stuff in the web browser then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► go over the years I don't know how many copies are sold to people who just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► had the browser it's your content bug happen again that something happens far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► far far less than it used to but it's interesting that you could have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► experience of it just being kinda like very pertinent to you in that sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► just like quickly getting stuff up there that would be too much trouble to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► of go in login to do but then on the other hand it's also very very useful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► people who want that like I wrote this on my Mac saved it on my Mac and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► the long form stuff as well now in brent was doing it I know that Brent and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► you know this is one of those things were maybe brent is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► too sensitive and over thought it but his idea was that if he's writing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► generic blog editor that's the tries to support every blog or even blog type CMS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► that has a remote editing API support that he needed to be neutral towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► mall and so his own blog he wrote his own blog software for so that instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► say using WordPress and then a people's it will you use WordPress so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► your app works better with WordPress then blah blah blah where is the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► is it works better with WordPress WordPress has better API support then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► some other thing right now I always kind of thought I was interesting that stance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► he took and I did I don't think I still don't quite get it I think he over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► thought it it it also let's also try to look at it from Prince point of view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► where he was so like in the midst of this big like he was a big part he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► like a you know this kind of like emerging blogging RSS type thing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► a lot of people were paying attention to what brain didn't he probably yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► felt that my attitude about that has been almost diametrically opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3414">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► and sort of like lends itself to my interests in like doing lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► different projects at least for a while lots of different blogs at least for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► while I tried to make a conscious effort to have separate projects on separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► systems so so as to be able to say ok this this is my wordpress blog this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► my blogger blogspot blog blogspot blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► and then I even tried to do a tumblr blog actually start trying to start a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► tumblr blog recently in and got bit by like the inability to add at images from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► from mars at it but I had the opportunity which is like I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► understand what these customers are running into unless I actually try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► use this system that they're using so like I know I didn't think I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► really appreciate what people wanted to get out of the apt with say WordPress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3475">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► unless I had a wordpress blog that makes sense to me so what are you using for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► bits putting I'm using WordPress for that and I mean the fact of the matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► is I ended up using WordPress more consistently across my sites in part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► because it has that level of support through the API that some systems are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► are quite at but also just I'm probably an example of what in part why WordPress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► is so successful that you can install it on almost any server if you host your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► self you can customize it and there's like a huge collection of plug-ins for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► getting a head start on that so I for example my it's putting podcast is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► leans at least a little bit on this podcasting plugin installed and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► took some of the work out of that and what does it do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► does stuff like automatically sense that there's an enclosure on the blog post an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► enclosure you know saying a reference to an mp3 file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► if it if there's no closure on the file that it is it says mp3 on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► post then it not only packages all that up in the way that makes sense to iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► but I like automatically reads the size of the file off of that length in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► minutes hours and stuff but so that automatically inserts you know I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► have this on your networks as well as you can go to the page for an episode in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► his play the episode right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► automatically inserts media player stuff like that and does it do it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► 2005 yeah so it works on iPhones and all that and it's magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► yeah you know I was just thinking about last night because it's a little off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► topic I guess but it it sort of related to that with the 2005 is that the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► is so quickly like the the people depending on flash player for audio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► video playback are disappearing at such a fast rate now that it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► surprising when I'm on the iPad iPhone and run into something that I can't play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► at this point just last night before I went to bed I wanted to watch Elon Musk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► at the 11 conference all things D and it was like just posted earlier in the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► and you know I don't know it's like they're adequate down in the hold their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► whole team is at a conference and I just had to start my head like this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► to go away it was going to work for me was I was downstairs only to head was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► airplay it to my AppleTV and I thought this isn't gonna work out but it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► need Flash to watch you know in the morning up on my desktop or something or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3654">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► just not even watch it and I went to the thing and it just worked because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► course it has you know it's my five support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► and I just remember there were so many people who when I came out without Flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► support who were so damn sure that it was now never gonna work nope there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► way that people are going to give up flash player because flash is already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► there and just worked and it's you know it's just one of those things where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► people are so wrong about that are never going to revisit that an admit they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► yeah well it's one of those things to our depending on what I didn't quite get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► it until I think it really at all cuz I was very dismissive of anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► thought you would require Flash like for the long term and then I had to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► grudgingly admit that for example this whole class of like kids games from PBS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► and etc that my kid played we're all like flash-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► ok though there is a there is a ton of stuff out there that today or in at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► time 2010 you can't use that then I think you're right now it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► getting to the point where you yes all these like all the flash games and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► are still out there and occasional like very I don't know what's wrong with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► restaurants will still require Flash for their menus or whatever you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► really change that though the iPhone is really change that to it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► because I think I think restaurants in particular it's because they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► appeal to people who are already out and I like can we get in at this place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► is this place you know let's go to the New Mexican place you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► iPhone has driven away that have finally driven restaurants off flash-based web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► yeah I think any of them that have like the wherewithal to notice that and/or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► the budget to change whatever they don't you know a lot of these restaurants and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► especially if they're like not glossy restaurants than you just happen to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► have the misfortune of somebody having like sold them a solution in 2007 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► but but that was that's the way I would put it is not how much Flash content is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► out there now but who is commissioning new Flash content today right nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► would be done I know even adobe is finally done it would be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► experts out there who are battling flash where's tried to make this argument that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► Flash is going to have a big comeback and you don't want to be caught without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► flash on your site when the big comeback comes right but that's as the the plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► in your time outside sounds like it does the right thing and it's you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► it's the same lines of why I like using Marzena and why mars headed really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► inspired idea for the linked list but it made it made think it was something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3836">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► might want to do because like you said you said the word for action taking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► the friction because it's not complicated it's not hard I give your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► program the markup involved of getting an html5 audio player in to post on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► website is not as I understand it but if you had to do the market by hand every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► whereas you can't just tell the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► here's the description and it's just text it is right the description and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► here's the file and it's just an audio file and the right XML and HTML comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► out the other side when you hit a button it's it's just this it's like a weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► difference in all that time he saved is you know it's the time that he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► give you even the possibility of squeezing this one other project into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► your busy schedule like you know there's a level of complexity for instance if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► you didn't have the help of your networks and you didn't have great audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► recording software integrate my computer that can handle it all there's a level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► of complexity where you wouldn't do this show and there's these are all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► little things that add up and that's that really that friction word is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► keeps coming back to me and I'm sensitive to that that's why for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► I don't see myself using Twitter if they ever made it so I couldn't use a desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► yeah right I'm not gonna go login to post my you know funny to me and five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► other people thought that just came to mind I can on their website is a fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► website but if I had to use the Twitter website used for Owen used where exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► that's why I think we're a minority actually but yeah but that's why I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► that they and I think like the renewed like they've had a lot of renewed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► activity in their own clients yeah like for a while it seemed like not just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► they were anti third-party clients which they still are I mean they still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► this disease severe limits that are really I I really hope they revisit them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► the third party thing is different but it really seemed almost like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► weren't just anti third-party clients but that they were anti clients period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► and that their own apps were and after you know they they really want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► able to use the Website and I feel like you know the reason I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► frustrating was that most people do already the mass market already does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► just use the Website let the people who care enough to want the apps use apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► and may just make everybody happy it's so hard to go wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► making people happy users customers whatever you want to call them if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyL6r6A/4005">TS</a>]
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