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231: Eat Pray Love Die Survive

 

00:00:02   the incomparable number 231 January 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2">TS</a>]

00:00:10   welcome back everybody to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/10">TS</a>]

00:00:11   uncomfortable i'm your host Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13   Snelling we're here tonight to convene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15   another edition of our book club we i we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/15">TS</a>]

00:00:18   we need to just change the title to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/18">TS</a>]

00:00:19   apocalypse book club because we do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/19">TS</a>]

00:00:23   an awful lot at the I playing Lisa as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   you shouldn't be such miser hold on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27   we're Edward apocalyptic books also out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/27">TS</a>]

00:00:30   there of course it's book club it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   wouldn't be a book club angry people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/32">TS</a>]

00:00:33   Twitter point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/33">TS</a>]

00:00:34   were it not for the presence of Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   McNulty hello Scott are you here is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   officially a book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/39">TS</a>]

00:00:40   it is a book club huh cool grey thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/40">TS</a>]

00:00:43   goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/43">TS</a>]

00:00:44   well now that we know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/44">TS</a>]

00:00:45   officially a book club i'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/45">TS</a>]

00:00:46   introduce my other two guests Monty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48   actually also joins us hello Monty know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   Jason member electricity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   oh good times remember podcasts are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56   were like a traveling theater but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/56">TS</a>]

00:00:59   they came to you over them the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01   clouds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   I can't even picture such a thing i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   i'll draw you a comic book about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/65">TS</a>]

00:01:06   later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/66">TS</a>]

00:01:07   we're foreshadowing what the book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   David lower is also here hello David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   hi I'm calling in from John Syracuse's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/71">TS</a>]

00:01:14   compound good because it's looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   what relaxes saving their dad likes all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19   of lex's together here because it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21   safe Syracuse's children there did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   do a house swap 10 look at the circus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   going to take his children to where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/85">TS</a>]

00:01:26   safe it's just likes the house they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   to be rescued but i'll refer you to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   episode about but the dogstars for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32   one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   this is this is about two books that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   more or less about apocalypses one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39   station eleven by Emily st. John Mandel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   and one is the peripheral by william [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   gibson leases in my old pal william [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/103">TS</a>]

00:01:46   gibson and we're also going to talk at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49   with with bonus bonus material for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/109">TS</a>]

00:01:52   who read it i didn't but that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54   about John Varley slow apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/114">TS</a>]

00:01:57   because Lisa felt that it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   relevant to this discussion and I take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01   her at her word because i didn't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   let's get it let's start with a station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/123">TS</a>]

00:02:08   11 which is a Scott you have you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/128">TS</a>]

00:02:12   the one I heard about this book from and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14   and then I saw it on somebody's best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/134">TS</a>]

00:02:17   the year list so you know you you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/137">TS</a>]

00:02:20   like this one and recommended it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   rest of us so this is all your fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/142">TS</a>]

00:02:23   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/143">TS</a>]

00:02:24   I'm doing all you're doing is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27   pushed for it to you because apocalypses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30   it was I think widely acclaimed as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/150">TS</a>]

00:02:34   very good book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/154">TS</a>]

00:02:35   yeah of last year so it made many lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/155">TS</a>]

00:02:38   and so I wouldn't be surprised if much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41   like calculus both Lisa and I discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44   at the same time huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   and both large and suggested it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49   book we should read and in fact it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   my favorite book that I read last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   with a second followed closely by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   bone clocks by our good friend David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/175">TS</a>]

00:02:59   Mitchell of the cloud atlas has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   clout wait you know this book that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   that those books must hit the right spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   for you because this book reminded me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/185">TS</a>]

00:03:06   the cloud atlas a little bit mmm little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08   bit I i enjoy when they interweave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   different time different periods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   jump back and forth and connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   everything at the end satisfyingly or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/194">TS</a>]

00:03:17   not so now i have to ask you because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   know that one of your one of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/199">TS</a>]

00:03:21   charming traits is that you cannot you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   get booked amnesia and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   remember what happened in books do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   would you like to talk a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28   about station eleven and what it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   and why you liked it at to kick us off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   since since uh I feel like Lisa will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/212">TS</a>]

00:03:36   able to join me and talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38   peripheral I thought maybe I would go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/218">TS</a>]

00:03:39   you for station eleven to start do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42   have the or would you like a punt I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/222">TS</a>]

00:03:45   giving the opportunity i don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/225">TS</a>]

00:03:46   anything that happened you talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   I'll catch up later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/228">TS</a>]

00:03:49   I read this way back in November details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/229">TS</a>]

00:03:54   are hand that was like before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   thanksgiving that screams an apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   and then you and I will admit i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/238">TS</a>]

00:04:02   looking for a synopsis online to refresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/242">TS</a>]

00:04:06   my memory and I could not find one which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/246">TS</a>]

00:04:10   did not help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/250">TS</a>]

00:04:11   goodreads has a little one but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/251">TS</a>]

00:04:12   not on wikimedia strangely no that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14   gross and the gist of the story is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/254">TS</a>]

00:04:19   uh I mean super simplifying it there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/259">TS</a>]

00:04:23   a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   virus of some sort which I forget the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   Georgian flew very best and black right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31   uh-uh that yes that sweeps the the globe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/271">TS</a>]

00:04:34   and we drop we the story shifts between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/274">TS</a>]

00:04:38   pre globe sweeping virus post globe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/278">TS</a>]

00:04:44   sweeping virus and there's a comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/284">TS</a>]

00:04:47   part in the whole hair sprinkled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/287">TS</a>]

00:04:50   throughout so this is super high level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/290">TS</a>]

00:04:53   overview and then all the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   kind of not all the characters the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   characters kind of connect throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   the different time periods at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/299">TS</a>]

00:05:02   and i will say a lot of a lot of scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/302">TS</a>]

00:05:06   stood out in my mind but the overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09   plot as with many things as evaporation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/309">TS</a>]

00:05:13   ok so that basically the plot is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/313">TS</a>]

00:05:16   you you're following a couple different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/316">TS</a>]

00:05:19   characters mostly it is a Kirsten who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/319">TS</a>]

00:05:25   a child actress at in a production of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/325">TS</a>]

00:05:29   King Lear in Toronto at the moment that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32   this virus basically goes global and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35   kills almost everybody and we we see her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38   as a child there and this famous a film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41   actor dies on stage dick Shawn like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/341">TS</a>]

00:05:46   anybody remembers the story median Sean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   dying on stage and uh and then she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/348">TS</a>]

00:05:52   also we see her later travelling post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   apocalypse in a company of musicians and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57   actors who go from town to town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   performing performing plays and playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02   music in the Midwest to the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   villages that have sprung up post the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   post-apocalypse at least the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   aren't too creepy or violent and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/368">TS</a>]

00:06:12   so she's a part of that that group and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14   we also see various stories about people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/374">TS</a>]

00:06:18   other people who connected with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/378">TS</a>]

00:06:19   actor including the the EMT who who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/379">TS</a>]

00:06:24   jumped up on stage and tried to save his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/384">TS</a>]

00:06:27   life when he died on stage and we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/387">TS</a>]

00:06:30   meet we see how the EMTs life goes after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   the apocalypse and also how he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/392">TS</a>]

00:06:36   connected to people like the actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/396">TS</a>]

00:06:39   ex-wife and ex-wives and his son and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/399">TS</a>]

00:06:44   that all is is kind of connected so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   see various things that stem from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/406">TS</a>]

00:06:49   moment where these people are together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/409">TS</a>]

00:06:50   at this at the moment where the actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/410">TS</a>]

00:06:53   dies and then we see his life and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56   wives lives in his child's life and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59   the life of this child actress who grows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   up post-apocalypse and also the EMT and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/421">TS</a>]

00:07:04   it's all kind of interconnected and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/424">TS</a>]

00:07:08   yeah the Indian it's the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/428">TS</a>]

00:07:09   world because there aren't very many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/429">TS</a>]

00:07:10   people around more than anything else so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/430">TS</a>]

00:07:13   it isn't a case where the infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/433">TS</a>]

00:07:14   fails and then everybody dies it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   case that everybody dies and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   infrastructure fails because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/438">TS</a>]

00:07:19   theoretically it's just you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22   all too messed up for people to put back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   together at least not yet but something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/444">TS</a>]

00:07:27   about right yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   did you mention the comic book that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   actors ex-wife this yes this is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   vital part of the story for me is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/454">TS</a>]

00:07:37   actor who is arguably the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/457">TS</a>]

00:07:40   everybody in this book has in common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   the actor is this is a serial husband [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   and his first ex-wife spends her time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/465">TS</a>]

00:07:48   drawing a comic book series that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/468">TS</a>]

00:07:51   never quite finishes but her husband or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54   her ex-husband as a few copies made up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   he gives a copy to his son and he gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   a copy to Kirsten when she's a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   child too because he's using her as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03   standard surrogate and that comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/483">TS</a>]

00:08:06   not only acts as a metaphor for the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/486">TS</a>]

00:08:11   identity crisis that humanity is having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   post extinction event it is also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/493">TS</a>]

00:08:16   thing that unravels the central mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   surrounding the the post-apocalyptic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/498">TS</a>]

00:08:22   world's principal antagonist that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25   Kirsten and her troop run into right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/505">TS</a>]

00:08:26   right it's a and provides the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29   the book because that's the comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   is called station 11 and it is about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   scientist who lives on a space station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35   and and we discover see station yes yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/515">TS</a>]

00:08:38   Lord undersea space station I it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   another planet enters our file and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44   there's a violent conflict between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/524">TS</a>]

00:08:47   people who want to stay safe in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/527">TS</a>]

00:08:48   states in the station and people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   longing for life above the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   and the metaphor for life in the bubble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/532">TS</a>]

00:08:56   is pretty effect is pretty affecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/536">TS</a>]

00:08:57   because another one of the characters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   the story is the dead actors best friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/539">TS</a>]

00:09:02   / business manager who ends up started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/542">TS</a>]

00:09:06   who ends up inadvertently colonizing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/546">TS</a>]

00:09:07   airport with others with other survivors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/547">TS</a>]

00:09:10   and curating Museum of the world the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   past I could fire off a spoiler warning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   here but really it's book club we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/554">TS</a>]

00:09:15   gonna talk about what's in the book if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   you don't want to know what's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/557">TS</a>]

00:09:17   book don't listen until you ever take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   your friend yeah and I'd i have to admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/559">TS</a>]

00:09:22   i really love the report sequences oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   god and I've been here for weeks but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   so I I one of the things that fascinates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   me as with all these books is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   society unravels and the nature of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   its portrayed at and I want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/572">TS</a>]

00:09:35   about that and then that also ties into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36   the gibson Scott I since you liked this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/576">TS</a>]

00:09:40   book so much I and I know we've got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   differing opinions on what's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   panel I'm just you know there if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   wonder why Monty and David or crouching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   in the weeds silently sneaking up behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   you that may be why brow shame I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/590">TS</a>]

00:09:54   couldn't find my chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56   the important thing is that Scott draws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/596">TS</a>]

00:09:57   the five my crossbow out are you kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   me there there lo there low-lying weeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   you have to stay below the the it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   for my hamstrings of 14 you can stretch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/604">TS</a>]

00:10:07   out before we get there those Scott once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/607">TS</a>]

00:10:10   you tell us up if you've got a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   about why this book resonated with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   and why you thought it was one of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/615">TS</a>]

00:10:16   favorites are your favorite from 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19   so I think that a lot of books that deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/619">TS</a>]

00:10:22   with the apocalypse tend to turn into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/622">TS</a>]

00:10:25   apocalypse porn where it's all talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/625">TS</a>]

00:10:29   about you know the details of how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31   apocalypse happened and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33   detailed planning which is exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/633">TS</a>]

00:10:36   slow apocalypse is get through it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/639">TS</a>]

00:10:40   yeah so it's it's a stark contrast and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43   see why Lisa why you recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/643">TS</a>]

00:10:44   because I start contractors contrast to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   station 11 which is basically using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   apocalypse as a setting and kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/648">TS</a>]

00:10:52   plot device to start spinning these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/652">TS</a>]

00:10:53   characters off and it does really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   concerned itself with you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57   happening with the apocalypse or why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/657">TS</a>]

00:11:01   uh you know this this disease is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   rampaging throughout the world it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/663">TS</a>]

00:11:06   happened and let's move on a which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/666">TS</a>]

00:11:10   find refreshing because i think the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/670">TS</a>]

00:11:13   the boring parts of the Apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   stories to me are you know the mechanics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/675">TS</a>]

00:11:18   of the Apocalypse I'm more interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21   how people react and the relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24   and the characters that are driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/684">TS</a>]

00:11:25   through it which i know is not a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/685">TS</a>]

00:11:28   you know some people really like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30   apocalypse mechanics and that's fine i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   would suggest reading slow apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   because boy when you get your full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/694">TS</a>]

00:11:37   apocalypse mechanics through that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40   with it and if you're in Los Angeles it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   will give you a detailed map of what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/702">TS</a>]

00:11:45   doin out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/705">TS</a>]

00:11:45   yes if there's any kind of and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48   you could draw a map based on hehe goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/708">TS</a>]

00:11:51   into streets and and we're gonna axe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/711">TS</a>]

00:11:54   yes it's it's impressive amount of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/714">TS</a>]

00:11:57   stories are most likely to be loaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/717">TS</a>]

00:11:58   first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/718">TS</a>]

00:11:59   yes this does not well in fact there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02   i was going to say the book has amnesia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   about what happens post-apocalypse but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   actually the main character has amnesia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   about what happens post upon she loses a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11   year we don't see the aftermath really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14   that makes it works because it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   to imagine that a kids on the road for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   year and has blanked everything out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   and there's and she mentions there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   things that trigger her like certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   sites of meat cooking or things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   that and between not knowing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   happens and having that vague trigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/748">TS</a>]

00:12:29   about watching charred bone over a fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/749">TS</a>]

00:12:33   frankly anything that your imagination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   comes up with is going to be horrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/755">TS</a>]

00:12:36   well we don't see her after math but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   do see the airport after you I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   to say the one place where you see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/760">TS</a>]

00:12:43   spot by spot what happens after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/763">TS</a>]

00:12:46   apocalypse is in the airport everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/766">TS</a>]

00:12:47   else is sort of like we're on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/767">TS</a>]

00:12:49   precipice of the apocalypse and then now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/769">TS</a>]

00:12:52   we're dealing with life after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/772">TS</a>]

00:12:53   apocalypse but the airport you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   steps which we get to very late in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/775">TS</a>]

00:12:59   game does step through sort of so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/779">TS</a>]

00:13:02   in an airport and the world ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   what do you do what happens then just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   case it's like the place to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   I'm that was like that was my takeaway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   it's inherently awesome at the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   yes go to the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/792">TS</a>]

00:13:13   well what was interesting was how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   quickly there though the one day the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   details that stuck with me on the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   three through because i read this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   twice the first time I read it linearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   front to back and then the second time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   actually went through back in like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   goal and picked it out character by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   character to see how their stories hung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   together as as just a series of short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   interlocked stories and the two details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   that stood out the first time in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/816">TS</a>]

00:13:37   report sequence where that poor girl who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/817">TS</a>]

00:13:38   runs out of her her her energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/818">TS</a>]

00:13:42   depression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   yeah they're serum she's taking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   basically walked into the woods to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   kill herself and and then the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/827">TS</a>]

00:13:50   thing that stuck with me was when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   took like a quick hard line on sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54   assault and kicked that guy to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/834">TS</a>]

00:13:55   airport and get my rifle said good luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/835">TS</a>]

00:13:57   don't ever come back here right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/837">TS</a>]

00:14:00   think the reason i was impressed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01   that was because that's kind of contrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/841">TS</a>]

00:14:04   to the ethos of a lot of United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/844">TS</a>]

00:14:07   apocalypse port is a great way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/847">TS</a>]

00:14:08   putting it because a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/848">TS</a>]

00:14:09   authors seem to be seemed to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   relish the idea that yes women look up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   acting channel they'll be treated like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/853">TS</a>]

00:14:14   currency and hear you had a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   people saying look you know we're living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   in a horrific time there's no reason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/858">TS</a>]

00:14:21   us to have to put professed have to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   up with that and so both the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/863">TS</a>]

00:14:26   horrible disintegration and and the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   real human cost of people who are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/868">TS</a>]

00:14:29   to lose their lives because they ran out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/869">TS</a>]

00:14:30   of medication that was just something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/870">TS</a>]

00:14:31   that really stuck with me as did them by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/871">TS</a>]

00:14:35   consensus setting up in enforcing rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   of law and entering the airport airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/877">TS</a>]

00:14:38   to an outpost I loved both of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   details now she included them that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   one of one of the scenes the six with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   the most is in the airport a plane lands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/884">TS</a>]

00:14:47   shortly after they won't let him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/887">TS</a>]

00:14:50   yes they just let me die in there well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53   the people the people on the plane don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   get off friday right yeah right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   anyways I was just like looking at we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   can't you know what I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/899">TS</a>]

00:15:00   contaminate where we've landed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/900">TS</a>]

00:15:03   yeah yeah yeah i did there are lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/903">TS</a>]

00:15:06   moments I'm like Scott so there's lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/906">TS</a>]

00:15:07   of moments that stick with me I I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/907">TS</a>]

00:15:10   enjoy the I enjoyed the connections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12   between the characters i did again as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   somebody who watch lost III don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/914">TS</a>]

00:15:17   how realistic is that they would be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   many coincidental really caused by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   and you're like oh the law of economy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   characters is in full effect everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   you know is important to have a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   literally they all in a walk together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/927">TS</a>]

00:15:30   and I i did roll my I enjoyed the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   but i really enjoyed this book but i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/932">TS</a>]

00:15:35   roll my eyes at that was like oh well of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/935">TS</a>]

00:15:36   course it has to be this character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   because there's no one else for it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   so it must be them and yet i did i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   enjoy it it despite that I enjoyed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/943">TS</a>]

00:15:46   we talk about soft and hard apocalypses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/946">TS</a>]

00:15:50   on the show sometimes and and I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   like I felt like the this was a softer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/952">TS</a>]

00:15:55   apocalypse I feel like the airport was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   really a soft landing it's like we made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/957">TS</a>]

00:15:58   it work it's ok we found that is then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/958">TS</a>]

00:16:01   there's a chilis yeah actually pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04   funny right this trip the idea is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06   there's so few people here it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/966">TS</a>]

00:16:07   road earlier on when there's still stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   in the houses but I did like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/969">TS</a>]

00:16:12   you have those moments where did you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   from town to town and sort of like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   the last the last policemen there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19   places that are better in their places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   that are worse but it's not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/981">TS</a>]

00:16:22   completely negative view that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   is going to just disintegrate into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/985">TS</a>]

00:16:26   nothing it's more like people that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   survivors do sort of band together in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   some places are bad but a lot of places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   are perfectly good and that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   traveling musicians and actors this idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/994">TS</a>]

00:16:37   that this is all the culture that's left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   going from place to place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/999">TS</a>]

00:16:40   I found that charming and I I enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   that because I I didn't I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:45   had an appetite for a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   completely brutal apocalypse and while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   there are some threats and there's a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:50   you know there's a bad cult kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:53   leader who kills people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:54   it uh I liked the optimism of the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:57   that yeah sure the world win but we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   still be doing some Shakespeare and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   playing some playing some music and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   quoting star trek and reading comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   books Scott by the way they're quoting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   star trek voyager i want to point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   out it's seven of nine so all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   thing with the new world the to the tuba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13   had said once it's just horrific short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   on elegance and i like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:18   basically have a bunch of people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:19   dedicated to art and elegance because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   that is their way of you know ascertain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   their humanity also elect him his tents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:26   ghoulish I like this book because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   kills off one of the narrator's and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:32   will be 0 because I said yeah because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   one of my complaints about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:35   apocalypse born or the apocalypse onra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   is it's always those plucky few who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   somehow managed to survive either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40   because you know mother Abigail has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:43   plans for them or John Varley has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:46   provided them with matt handy friend who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   can weld together school buses or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:50   whatever only skill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:53   yeah I've been waiting for this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:56   happen quite in this case the part you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58   know and again if you fear if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:02   listeners you've probably read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04   Miranda gets the flu and dies and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:07   way they paint hurt though the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   Mandel describes her death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10   it's just it's weirdly beautiful and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:14   was glad that narrator was actually up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16   because i felt like it gave me as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   reader more of a steak because instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:19   of like are these these eight people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   following her almost seriously part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   the ten percent that lives it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   he had is gonna hit her she flies a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:27   she was exposed all the time and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:28   she dies and yeah you have a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31   where you think oh she's gonna she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   gonna swim out to the boats that are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   the harbor because she knows about ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:36   and they're going to go across the ocean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   they're going to save everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39   yay no she's gonna lay down and die on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:43   the beach he described how she crawls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   out of her hotel room and the the hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:48   and the hotel's empty there's just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:49   guy who's lying in the corridor and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:52   just looks at him and hope that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   enough that they have that moment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:55   connection she calls out to shays launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   and she looks the container ships and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   which was her business and all and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:02   yeah and says too late to get to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   hurts to ship herself now but she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   the thought there were people in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:07   really world who are safe i like I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:10   like that I what I don't like is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:11   fact that it Telegraph's that scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14   about a chapter earlier by saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   that the last thing she thought of when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18   she was out on the beach before she died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:19   was this and then later we see her do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   that like really that's amazing to break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:24   it to me gently on i did like that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   also like that indefinable expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:30   jeevan is that his name Jenna jeevan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33   does not meet up with everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:34   after the apocalypse know he was like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:37   Virginia the whole chain hotel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:38   awesome who knows probably the Prophet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   passes through and that's about it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   now but I was pretty certain he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   gonna show up at the airport because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:45   everybody else's but if it finds its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:48   weakness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:48   yeah and I also like that's really short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:51   on everybody's journeys it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   okay we've got through that there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   point obsessing and there's a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   where somebody says you know young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:59   people actually came through this a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:00   better because they had less to forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02   so they adapted more easily whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   people who are in their twenties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:05   thirties for were acutely aware what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   they've lost and I like that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10   that she actually details these really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:11   sharp generational gaps between people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   who are fully adult when one that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   extinction event hit and people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:18   Pearson who were interested in because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:19   it just seems so remote to her like she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   know she was alive but she has almost no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:22   memory of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:23   let's take a brief break for our sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26   this week it's mail route I told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:27   about mail route before and I use mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   route imagine world without spam or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32   viruses or bounce male clogging your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   inbox imagine opening your email and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   seeing only legitimate nail that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   want and need to receive mail route can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   make this dream a reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:43   perhaps the apocalypse is really lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   junk mail will you can solve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   apocalypse by using mail route so here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:51   our outworks I've got my email client on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:54   my mac and on all my phones and iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   and stuff and then I've got my mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:57   server at what you do is you configure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   your mail so that before it gets to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:02   mail server it goes to mail route and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:03   mail route will take all your inbound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   mail for if you've got your own domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   like I do all the users in your domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   will scan it and they'll use their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   intelligence to weed out what's bad mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   and if they don't deliver that the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   that gets to your server and then gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   to your apps is the good stuff and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:20   been amazingly impressed at how good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   they do most of the junk is gone there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   very little junk that I see anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:27   they tend not to filter out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:30   good messages every once in awhile i see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   a message in my little daily digest that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:33   mail route sends me that's a valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   message but it happens maybe once a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:38   most of the time it's a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   effective and when there is a false [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   positive i click one link in that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   digest and the the center's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:45   automatically whitelisted the mail is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   automatically deliver it couldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:49   you don't have to set up any hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   software mail route does that all for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   you if you're an email administrator or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   an IT professional they built tools with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   you in mind there's an API they support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   ldap an active directory TLS male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   bagging outbound relay everything you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   want big universities and enterprises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   use it and individuals can use it to so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   start a risk-free trial with no credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:10   card necessary just sign up you change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   your MX records on your server so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   got to be technical enough to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:15   about mail servers but your mailbox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   hardware will be completely protected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   it's simple it's effective there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   reason not to try it all listeners to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   uncomfortable will receive ten percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:26   off the lifetime of your account so go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:27   to mail route dotnet / Snell now to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:31   receive that deal mail route dotnet / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   smell and thank you to mail route for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   sponsoring the incomparable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36   filtering out all my spam Monty yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   oh here we go it's coming here comes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:42   debate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:43   no I i think i mean i can i can see lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45   of issues that people might have with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:46   this book I just I i went with android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   Monty what what are your what are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49   thoughts are you seem to you seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   in in a more negative place about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   book I let us have it i thought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:59   book was incredibly lazy it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:04   the author wanted to tell a story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   before and after the apocalypse so took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:09   a generic apocalypse event off-the-shelf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:13   from the stand and took a generic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   setting off the shelf and made no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:19   attempt whatsoever to connect them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   any way other than the airport right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   having the disconnection otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   that's that amnesia right it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   amnesia allows you to go from point A to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   point B without having to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:32   not if I believe it did because both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   exist then I'm not judging i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   saying it's good but that's what that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   the trick here right here's the thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   the airport people immediately gave up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:45   on humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:46   there's no attempt to do anything they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   said oh well everybody's dead i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   we're back to making tents out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   branches we found in this forest people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:55   are thrown all the way back not to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   Middle Ages but to the Stone Age by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:01   people are suddenly unable to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   anything or make any I did question the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:07   idea that that even if 99% of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10   died i do question the idea that we that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   nobody anywhere would be able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   anything involving technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:17   I I kept asking myself cuz they talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:18   about electricity and I kept our I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:21   asking myself what about all the solar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   panels below so so here's my counter do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:27   you remember in y the last man you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   to do is I'll read that right or many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:30   you read the comic series y the last man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   and they actually have a section i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:35   forget which trade its inward we're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   one of the characters says well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   reason the world is just such a hot mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   right now is because there were vast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44   industries that were print that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   predominately male and so there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:47   lack of institutional knowledge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   things like that and what I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   is in order for this not in order for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   people to get the lights back up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   running or to keep the Santa state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   sanitation systems corner would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   have you do have to have a critical mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   of people who either have that knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   or can pass that knowledge along and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05   when people are busy dying from the flu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   if you're going to sit tight you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   going to like no no you can't go your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:10   sanitation engineer you have to pass on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:11   the secrets of the valve right but 15-20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:14   years later presumably there's been some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   collection in these towns of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   know things and like I said household [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   rooftop solar panels are not that hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23   I'm not even complaining it about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:24   electricity will get there we'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:27   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:28   I feel like the the electricity the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   electricity feels to me like she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33   want to deal with it because she's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   beautiful image that she wants to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:35   at the very end of the book and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:39   can't do that she's got a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   image and can't be bothered to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   it at all and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   lazy storytelling no I think that once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   you watch the entire planeload of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   die like on purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   you're kind of like oh wow this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   is bad news and and i think that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:56   were to watch that puts the Whammy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1558">TS</a>]

00:25:58   there's a moment in the airport when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   Museum of the past is being like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:05   over time it's filling out and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   description says there were a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   impractical shoes stilettos mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12   beautiful and strange because in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   others head were post-apocalypse were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:17   past the time when people were where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   impractical shoes think about in real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:22   life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:23   how long ago it was that nobody cared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:27   about fashion so we're not only never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30   knew before electricity were bagged make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   thousands of years to being cavemen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:35   humanity just gave up completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:38   I don't buy that I i saw the shooting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:41   a commentary on a pedestrian culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:42   versus one where you have the luxury of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   being carried places you know you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   going to wear stilettos when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:47   walking 10 15 miles a day if people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50   in a pedestrian culture long after fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:54   shoes were invented poor people remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   that for a long time like I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:59   back to when they have those huge crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   platforms in Italy where rich people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03   would literally be strapped into their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:04   Street shoes and strap back out again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   and they had service to carry them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   around here to help them walk from point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   A to point B so their fancy shoes didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:11   get ruined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:12   you just yeah i think when one month you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14   may be saying here is to correct me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   I'm wrong 12 years you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   yeah you need your good choose for when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:19   you're out hunting the venison right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:22   then you're in the you're in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:23   carpeted airport who wouldn't wear some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   nice shoes from time to time I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28   believe we're having this conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:28   money do you have more thoughts about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   this because I i do think this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   issue i think this is a book that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:33   not I enjoyed it a lot and I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:36   was kind of beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:37   I i agree that if you if you start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   pick the at the the premise you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:42   that it doesn't really hold up to any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   scrutiny it doesn't really care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   the the specifics of the Apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:49   really high high degree could drive a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:52   certain type of reader crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:53   among the things that suggest that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   author has put very little thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:58   into the setting in which much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   story is based is the issue of books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:03   comic books and just reading in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:06   as you may remember in the Museum of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:10   future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   srs the Museum of human history whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   it's called the Stiletto museum will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:16   call it cooks why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   it was possible to sit and read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:20   final newspapers 15 years old turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:23   Biddle pages and gloves that clark had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   sewn together somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   first of all newspapers do not go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   brittle after 15 years right I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:32   because i have you thinking that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   much older than take like a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:35   years yeah second this book has no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:39   how many books and comic books there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:40   in the world it's confusing to me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:45   on a basic level that they keep talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   about how whenever anyone goes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   house they look for books and they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   for comic books they look for magazines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   and they never find any of them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56   find gossip magazines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   that's a thousands of them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   building i'm in it does feel a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   bit like I'm in a pastiche of aurorae be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:06   medley of various apocalypse scenarios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   that isn't particularly well thought-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09   so this is this is the point about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   which is I I at several points Monty so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   I'm on your side about this even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   i like that i'm on your side about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:16   part at several points i thought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   myself i don't know if this book knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   what apocalypse it's talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   because there were moments where i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   it like you know this is this was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   flu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:27   it doesn't eat books and there were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   like fires that consumed all buildings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:33   everywhere right it just doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   right I think she's got a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   a material culture fetish in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   way that william gibson does and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   kinda want to circle back to that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   the peripheral later but when she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   talking about objects and the imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:49   social meaning they must have had or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50   perp imagined past meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52   it seems like she's really caught up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54   this very romantic vision of of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   sitting around wistfully thinking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   things were better in the past and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:01   the last movie of the Cornetto trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   worlds and taught us anything it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:06   people just kind of roll with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   there's always gonna be who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:09   actually happy things are the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:10   are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:11   we almost never ran into that here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   a lot of people who are just like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:14   gossip magazines and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:17   they're cheerfully reading people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:18   houses and I do like this you're excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:21   about that i like that there are happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:22   towns because there are other there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   other stories like the walking dead or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25   something like that was like nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26   everybody's miserable or dead that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   I can't read them walking dead the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   yeah you are reading this book that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   was thinking the basic thesis of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34   walking dead is that civilization is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:37   yes if you can't get more than six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   people together on the walking dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40   before somebody goes crazy and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   shooting everyone else or starts eating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   somebody else yeah that's yeah yeah so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:47   like that I like that but i but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   wear it where it's train my credulity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   was ok they're happy towns that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   but the happy towns are all kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   gentlemen farmers from you know from 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1855">TS</a>]

00:31:00   years ago or something like that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:01   not like well we put things and again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:04   think part of this is that she wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:05   end with this moment where they see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06   lights from a far-off town and think oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08   my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09   civilization is returning but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   it seems it yeah it made me question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   that it's like really it was the flu i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16   know a lot of people died but you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:17   a lot of stuff laying around you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   probably figure it out in 15 years we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   were able to create electricity is our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   warehouses before this like when their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:27   work wires everywhere I feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:30   could be done but she doesn't mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:31   before that final scene one guy who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34   hooked his laptop up to his laptop up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37   a stationary bicycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:38   yeah and it got just enough power and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40   was looking for the internet which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   stupid rich this is something new that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   doesn't mean anything he could only do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   it when he pedaled because batteries no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49   longer exists apparently yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   fine I don't care that much about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   except for scoring a cheap point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   yeah um not that I well I well that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   my friend who hasn't seen Gilligan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:00   furiously pendulum the bamboo bicycle to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:04   power a radio if they can do it come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07   yeah if you just want like illumination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:10   you can do that on the radio is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:13   point two words like you could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   people you know to to communicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   there's this there is this feeling like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   technology has just vanished and 8i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   weirdly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:22   you could go to a camping some outdoor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:25   supply store right now and get two way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28   radios that you crank yeah right sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   maybe those stopped working after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31   while but there are lots of them and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:34   that many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:35   yeah i mean my first my first place an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   apocalypse go to bass pro shops there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40   you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:41   I so David you haven't said a lot i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   to ask you about the the at the actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46   and and play parts of this since that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   something near and dear to your heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   you have any thoughts about that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   part of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:53   well you know and and listening to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   guys talking I'm you know I'm kind of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   between you and Monty I think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   good place to be part of an Oregon yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:02   organ in the end I i think it drove me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:06   nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:07   although there's a lot of things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08   really loved about it it's it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   those things where I really really loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:11   it until I hated it and I didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14   hate it but I did love the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:18   here these people who go around keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:22   the art alive and keeping you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   we're going to play music and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:25   gonna play Shakespeare and even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:26   that they're there is one character who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:29   didn't like Shakespeare and after mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:32   shut about it because well you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:35   something right we're still bringing art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:38   even if it's not the art I like right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41   and and so the idea that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   something that should survive in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   post-apocalyptic world that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:46   a nice idea I the yea yea though I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:52   there is so much was I mean the language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:55   was really poetic i loved a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   imagery i loved a lot of the thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:00   that went into the things that she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   describing and I kept waiting for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:06   kind of logic to kick in right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09   I hated all the coincidences it was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:13   much coincidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:14   you know I was fine with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15   coincidences you know I well it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:18   didn't need the EMT to have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   former papa roxie could also interviewed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:23   everyone it's like that was not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   the most ingenious are you for me they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   really could have sliced his entire plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   line out and you would not have missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31   anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:32   yeah he could be going to die down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   road out of town and it would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:35   okay yeah i'll even there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:38   I mean I liked I liked his actual story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:42   i mean i like that you know holding up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   with the brother and trying to be less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:45   shallow but I didn't need him to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:48   any more connection with Arthur than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   fact that he tried to save his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   yeah but everything else was extraneous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   was like what was the point of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   oh look everybody's connected no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:59   surprises with connections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   good lord you know and so I I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:05   he had nothing to do with anything by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   the end but then why did he have so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   to do with everything in the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:11   it's like it's just everything about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:15   plot frustrated me and I didn't I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:18   mind not explaining things I didn't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21   you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:21   whoops apocalypse let's tell the story i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:24   like that you know that it's just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:25   of says we're going to set it here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27   hear things that are going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:28   right but then you know and i'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:31   and reading and reading and going we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   running out of pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:34   what's what oh here's an exciting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   with the Prophet guy and then up done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:39   and then we're still running out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:40   pages and oh it just stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:43   son of you know does it does end awfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:46   abruptly and the pacing seems kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   strange I thought the proper is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   be a big villain like he's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   carry the plot for that last half of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   book i thought id do send getting dealt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   with really that offhand matter yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:59   just hide in the woods and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   a little bit of a thing and then I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   stabbed him and actually I thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   first I thought that I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:06   really kind of powerful because you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   at how those station eleven book manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   to save one person's life because some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:13   crazy person uses it basically is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15   almost an internal Bible and a lifeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:18   and it does save her life at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:19   the book but it it warped the Prophet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:22   beyond imagination for the time he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:23   little boy right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   I loved that I loved that detail i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:28   wanted more basis for it i wanted more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   it seems a little bit like that guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   your MFA classes like CR is both coding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   Andrew dumped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:35   but I don't like how i did like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:38   there was that one small moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   you know it is literally where there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   little bit of tragedy because those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   people are literally the only people go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:45   to people who can have that conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   and they finally found the other person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   that can have that conversation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50   about this unfinished story from 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   years ago and has to end like it ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55   and then it loops back around to Miranda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   who has she's dying hallucinates the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   sunset into the setting of station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   eleven and basically dies while she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:02   cycling through a hallucination of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:05   of-of-of station eleven itself so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   there's it's you know for one moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   you're kind of caught up in this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   oh my god death and connection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   really it's all transcended then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:14   like wait that not only museum every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:17   night I loved all the detail around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   station eleven itself and i loved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   connections and I loved Clark at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   realize yeah yeah at that dinner party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   right that that's in the comic and going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:29   back to not liking Shakespeare I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   the fact that Arthur who is in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:34   Shakespeare play is saying well i sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:38   the one comic to my son and here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40   have the other one because i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:41   don't get comics and I don't like comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   but Miranda gave them to me anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   here and it was it was just this really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   nice thing of you know people who get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:51   certain kinds of art and not others and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53   and it's ok that some art is not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56   know everybody's art right that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:59   like different things and I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   was really nice thread throughout but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:04   yeah i mean the the thing that struck me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:08   as i was reading it was I would really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   love to adapt to this into something but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   i would want to you know give it more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:16   a plot i would want more character error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   you know I you know let them bump into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21   each other more and more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:24   ways I mean it just it felt like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   really interesting and poetic revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29   fanfiction so i'm going to say i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:32   to say another another other thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:33   mentioned that i feel like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:36   technology is suppressed in part to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:39   an image at the end of that that town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:42   far away that has lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   I feel like that's also true i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   some of the important plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49   points with the latter part of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   are suppressed for a long time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:53   I'm the writer once a surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:58   that's the identity of the Prophet which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   like I said there's a lot of economy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   characters so it's 900 surprising and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   all we're not remotely anything and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   fact that's why I looking back on it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   feel like there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   developments that happened in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:11   third of the book that should probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   have been pulled across the whole book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   because it doesn't feel like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   large elements that that are are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:21   introduced really late and that leads to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   some weird pacing where it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   you know this is just coming out like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   leave giovan you know we got him in hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31   with his brother and all that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:32   it's like a very late he comes back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   with his one tidbit of information about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   the prophet and the Prophet story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   himself we see the town but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   story the whole Airport story kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   comes in late so there's some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   about that I had that I at the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   thought well this is weird that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:47   suddenly turning this way but now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   I've seen the whole story I think maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:52   that's just because that she wanted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   that moment and so the whole book gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   distorted a little bit because of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58   moment and and like i said i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   enjoy I I actually really enjoyed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:01   book but I I certainly could make a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   of things that aren't dead bug me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:06   yeah i mean i'm glad i read it and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:07   really enjoyed so much of the language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:10   and so many of the descriptions but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   you know one of the things that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13   driving me nuts throughout was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   describing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   well here's Kirsten and here's Syed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   here's the conductor and here's the oboe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22   and know they know their names just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:25   their names and i realized i would argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:26   that names anymore they're spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:29   nothing is changed it well I realize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:32   disappeared i realized that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   basically just an excuse to always use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:35   that the term the profit instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37   every African to have a name and Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:39   we'll sort of obscure it a little bit by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   other people not using names and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   like no no none of that was a surprise i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:47   would have been more interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   seeing how this little boy became the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:54   Prophet you know I want to see a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   bit more than just that little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   thing you get at the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2458">TS</a>]

00:40:59   Elizabeth was the most frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   character for maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:02   because she basically exist to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03   described by everybody else as in me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:07   know and well this is the thing she gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   described as being fragile as being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   impulsive as being driven by fear is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   turning into some sort of blind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   religious fanatic and you think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   through the airport partner laying down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19   the fact this pork is isolated by his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22   nut bar mother and has gotten a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:23   weird and funny himself and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   why don't we get some of her perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   on all of this too because she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:30   remember she was flying back for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   funeral of her ex-husband and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   child's father the kid had a strained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:35   relationship with the father to begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   with so he was clearly not in a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   place and that's given no quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:42   whatsoever in the book that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   this group this grieving woman and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45   screaming child trapped in middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   nowhere during during an extinction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:48   event and she doesn't in you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:51   in the Miranda segments she comes off as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   not having a whole lot of ways of coping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   skills but we don't ever find out why we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:58   don't ever find out what she's thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59   we just get everybody else's pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:01   yeah I felt like to be kind of mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   unnecessary to be honest like her real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   transformation happens completely off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   screen right right exactly airport and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:10   it's like well suffice to say they spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   a lot of time walking around and her son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   became a crazy profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15   yeah and she was fine with it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   and it's it's I'm not I'm not asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:18   that we get basically like Bates Motel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   flu edition where you know mother most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   mother must never know but um I I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:26   like we shouldn't we need to know more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:27   about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:28   Arthur's like this cipher through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   whole book and I mean it's it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   designed to you know i mean because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:36   keep coming back to him and coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   to stories about him and and so I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   we're supposed to learn and figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:43   who he was and why everyone is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:46   interested in him and I never did figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   out why everyone was so interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50   him I didn't really learn anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   him except for the fact that he was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54   actor who married three women had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56   child and died on stage and nothing i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:59   a little town in Canada little time on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   Vancouver Island wrote letters to a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:02   back home we decide to exploit him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   publish a book who we never hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   anything really about we never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:09   understand why anyone else married and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   we sort of get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:12   why Miranda Miriam but we don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:15   know anything else about the other women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   we don't know anything about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   relationship with him in the child and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   and I mean there's so many interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:22   stories here that are just good left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:26   behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:27   literally it was still a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   region was like command of language i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:32   really glad i read it i think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   strength of it is I I like a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37   images a lot of the individual scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:38   the writing is beautiful and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:41   I can forgive a lot of those you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   eyebrow-raising moments where I where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46   think I'm not sure this holds together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47   as a deposit on what an apocalypse might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:50   be like because I do appreciate the ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:54   and the artistry and some of the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   and specific that are very vivid even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:57   now in my mind Scott how you doing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:00   there gotta check in back with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:01   you've been silent as everybody's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:02   beating up your favorite book of 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   but that's that's fine that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   different people get the the beauty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   literature's that different people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   different things out of it and if those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   people who disagree with me or wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   obviously I'm kidding but uh yeah i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:20   i think that the the storytelling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:23   will not storytelling with of the pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   and her ability as a writer to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:28   these scenes is what made it the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:31   book that I read last year now if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:35   judging it as a science fiction novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   doesn't know it is a bad science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:41   novel whereas slow apocalypse is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:44   science fiction novel if I'm judging it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   as a novel I think it's a great novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   and slow apocalypse is a bad novel had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:53   some of the most beautiful language and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   beautiful descriptions over in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   three or four years so I'm really glad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00   read it but but it was very frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   i highlighted this Arthur lives in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   permanent state of disorientation like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06   low-grade fever the question hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:07   over everything being how did I get from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   there to here so what I wonder is if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13   vagueness that describes him is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:16   basically supposed to be a stand-in for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   his mental state and that's and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   the parallel were supposed to draw is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:21   this is a guy who is disconnected from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   the world around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:25   him and so we don't ever really get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:26   feeling for who he is because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:27   almost literally not there even when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   is there i think i think you are you he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   is the connection point and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32   he exists and that that's hit he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   he's the you see him through the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:38   know what's left behind by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:39   connections and you know that's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   actual person it so he is he's famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:45   just because he's famous right he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   he's not like a great actor he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   good-looking and I think he's a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   star but we we don't really get much not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   information about the movies he's a star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:57   from right now he's in he headlined a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   movie or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   yeah and that he kind of get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   impression hey look it's kind of a hates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   that guy like how Christian Slater house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:08   three more famous than hey it's that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09   if any girl who date's him gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:12   paparazzi he's christian slater he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   like three hits and then he had his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:15   cuffs and went down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   nice experience way more famous than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   that any girl he dated gets biraj with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   paparazzi that's that's true there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:24   books you know coming out about his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   name is and you again i was i wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   much matter and to think the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   struck me about that whole part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   plot was every time I saw Elizabeth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:35   Tyler I thought Elizabeth Taylor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   then I thought Richard unit vector in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   taylor and i thought about the paparazzi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   in the crazy you know all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   around burton and taylor and all because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:44   I richard burton biography that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   good bye melvyn bragg anyway that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   popped into my head and I thought we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:51   have no basis for that level of Fame for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:54   the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55   you know who I mean even even the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:59   shallow giant superstar has some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:02   charisma because they wouldn't become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   giant super movie stars without it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07   so this is another parallel to william [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   gibson who is also obsessed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   celebrity very ago I sort of did like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:15   the scenes where the kids were like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18   kids and Thunderdome not understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   anything or to quote the book itself you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   see the way their eyes glaze over when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   anyone talked to them about antibiotics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   or engines it's science fiction to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   that's an interesting idea but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:31   not at all hold up with the other scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   of kids desperately reading children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   celebrity gossip magazines and common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   like you can't have kids goggle eyed of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:42   the idea of electric lights and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:46   reading magazines that show electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49   lights those two don't go together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:52   alright also i think and i might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:56   imagining this but I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:57   weird strain of light ism in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00   oh yeah i'll go with them I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03   there's the scene where for no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:06   there's a rant about people who use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   textspeak because what it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:11   taken too much time and effort to punch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13   in an extra three letters and just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:14   thanks and i don't think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:17   coincidence that Tyler is always playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   his video game machine and then it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:22   away and then he becomes the evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   properties intrinsic I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:28   that's a coincidence and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30   weird and he's more upset about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   video game than his father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   yeah SeaWorld disconnected from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   world man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:37   well the game has been there and his dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:38   is not so you can look at that way like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   there's an apocalypse and suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   everybody stops caring about video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   and texting and fancy shoes you guys we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:47   just have music and Shakespeare's shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:50   up here by the way that anything from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:51   the last 400 years because Shakespeare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:54   well the david mamet plays they are in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   town really fast for those so you burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   you burn those for fuel they were used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   for fuel these trees were keeping pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:04   important save the trans and Gary Glen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   Rose good-bye again it's not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:09   city because again that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:10   moment where I think we're I think she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   thinks this is the road and they burned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14   all the trees and there's nothing left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   but there are forests full of trees so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:19   it's not the right this is the this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   the harshest group of critics I've CNN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:22   station eleven and here's my theory as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:25   to why is because we have already a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   of apocalyptic novels and i think at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   this point like that but it has to pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   a number of sniff test for this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:34   science fiction novel and if you treat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   it like a science fiction novel we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38   spend for us fail pointing out all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   things that are wrong about it this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:41   not mean it picking this is me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   describing things that took me out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   the book because the author could not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   bothered to think through the apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   story she wanted to tell you wanted up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:52   underdome scene where kids go tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   about what it was like to have air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:55   conditioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   she also wanted if it's already where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00   people regardless of magazines after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   apocalypse and the they don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:05   together and the author makes no attempt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:06   to make them go together what else do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   you have on your list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:09   oh the rest is actually nitpicking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:12   to draw your motorcycle until it stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:17   working and then you gave up you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   you could put a diesel engine in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:20   and put vegetable oil in I totally could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:23   not do that if you were given 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   and free right buddies are available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:28   libraries to really figure it out i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   don't think i would try i'm pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   i'm going to be the person who blows off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34   her fingers and a really dumb accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:35   like two weeks and that's assuming i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   not there are no zombies in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:38   apocalypse see this for again just end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41   up making tents out of branches you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:44   brought in from the forest and living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:47   an airport for the rest of your life i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   want to point out there's enough canned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   food and other goods to fulfill modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54   society and now 99% of those people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:57   not consuming anything anymore so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3057">TS</a>]

00:51:00   supermarket of the world is open i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:03   the people who survived have got a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   of books and a lot of food and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07   stuff and again when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   item one breaks go to item to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   there's Walmart's got 500 of them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:14   think the people who wrote and read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   book really have no like they read books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:21   that usually have pictures of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:22   pigeon-toed girls and mackintoshes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   the cover and are about dating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   whatnot and so we're not basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:29   coach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:30   yes burn and so they're not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:33   again they're not likely sure I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   recently sure that if if if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   extinction that were to hit you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39   would be fine i mean we've established [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:40   that i'm going to blow off my fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   and probably end up in some horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   camp but I'm totally did this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   Syracuse the compound is is welcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   it's not like 3,000 miles away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51   that's the problem but yeah you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:52   can get a bottle balloon and go there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   problem i can't just caravan with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   guys wait I can't just caravan with are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   you are you planning on sticking it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3118">TS</a>]

00:51:59   in in millimeter and possibly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:02   defensible after the apocalypse everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   will travel by hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:05   balloon so yeah oh my god would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   best thing but the point is is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   think anybody who wrote or read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:10   book has the extensive back in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:16   apocalyptic reality show the video is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:19   true just your arguments here and and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   totally agree with Scott that has novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   this work for me and as science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   it is a complete failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:26   I i think though and Monty you can be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:30   reality check on this I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   argument is you're going to write a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:33   set in an apocalypse you got out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:36   is a level of work you probably need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   do you have your story makes sense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41   you can't and it shows a fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:44   lack of respect for the reader and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:48   if there and for world-building if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:51   just kind of wave it off and say look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:52   you know it's a bunch of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:53   apocalypses suffice it to say there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   apocalypse let me tell you my story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   that you know you can write a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   book that people like but it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:02   frustrate a lot of readers because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   didn't make enough effort to have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   story makes sense i wouldn't mind it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:09   it were if the book started with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:10   hand-waving but if you have scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   before and after the apocalypse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:15   there's no attempt to get from one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   the other than for me no matter how nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20   individual scenes are the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   like I say just feels lazy really lazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:27   right for me it's not that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:28   work as a science fiction novel I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   think it worked as a novel i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   works as some really beautiful character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   sketches and some really beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   poetry and there's so much granular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:40   detail about some things and so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   hand-wavy him about so much else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:45   it's like if you're gonna do you know go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   with the hand wave him or go with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48   granular because if you just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   blend it as it comes to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:54   it's like it's like The Twilight Zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:55   episode Midnight Sun where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:58   there's no real explanation as to why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   everything is getting hotter and hotter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:01   and hotter and hotter and it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   oh it's all in in the girl's mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   because its actions everything's getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   colder it's everything is getting colder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   wasn't the earth coming closer to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   Sun that was the idea but it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:12   been blown out of out of the sun's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:15   orphans going-away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   there's there's no real attempt to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   that even remotely plausible but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:22   story works because you just go with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25   but this had so many little details and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   all this is this is exactly what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:29   happen here and this is what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:30   happen here that when they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:33   connect just it took me out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36   completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37   again it's a beautiful read i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   think it's an apocalypse genre read i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   think it's a I think it's the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   thing where you handed to your your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   friends who are who like like literature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   and I said yeah I'd say that would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:49   title suggestions lasix if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   know how I would write it the limit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   right now because I have a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:56   girlfriends who who are seriously like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   Eat Pray Love types and knowing they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   great people don't get me wrong but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   you know like that point different a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:03   pre-loved spoke to me and they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   station was the best book of the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   and it's so rare that we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:08   watching books i was all I did read Eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:11   Pray Love and I did not like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13   so sweet pre-loved I survived let's take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:16   another break i just want to remind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18   this is not even a sponsor I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:19   sponsor here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21   did you know that the uncomfortable does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:22   other podcasts we do in case you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:25   know go to the incomparable dot-com and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:28   you'll see we have Tim Goodman Stevie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   talk machine where i talk to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:31   hollywood reporter's chief TV critic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33   every week about what's on TV with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   TV podcast where we recap episodes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   recently aired shows currently covering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40   the flash we have random track where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:41   Scott McNulty talks about Star Trek a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:44   random episode with a non-random guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:46   every week total party kills every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   week where we play Dungeons and Dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   there's a new story starting next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   the uncomfortable radio theatre will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   coming back in a few months you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:55   subscribe to it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:56   phillip michael and lisa Schmeisser ruin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   the movies they ruin a movie they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   haven't even seen and it's very funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   and also coming back for a new season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:03   not playing with lex friedman and Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   more'n so many podcasts there are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:08   on the way so check it out if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10   this podcast give us a try the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   incomparable dot-com there's itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   links and feed links there so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   subscribe to some other shows that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   think you like we need to talk at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   a little bit about the peripheral and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   slow apocalypse because i stayed up til [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   twelve-thirty last night reading that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:25   book so I could finish it on where God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:28   oh please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:29   grip this one I kind of liked its weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:35   ambition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:35   yeah it's got an idea i liked i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:39   like william gibson so i should i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   point that I'd never liked it even books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   and this becomes a streak that about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   go hot and cold on him so in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48   peripheral perfect so we've Gibson this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   is a new day a book and not any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53   university is written in before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:54   answer a trilogy of things this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   any of the any of his trilogies maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   we'll see books in this universe again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3418">TS</a>]

00:56:59   maybe we won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:00   I like william gibson I loved his most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   recent trilogy and I loved his first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   trilogy that made him famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06   this book is fascinating the the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:10   the plot of it is essentially this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:11   the peripheral the plot is essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   that there is a so spoilers for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:17   peripheral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:20   the plot is basically there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:24   post-apocalypse world whether these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:27   people in London and there aren't very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   many people left we don't really know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30   lot about what happened it's called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   jackpot but something happened and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:33   many people left they have super-high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   nanotechnology so hey an apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   happened but all of society didn't fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:40   apart there's all this super high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:41   technology they have the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:44   communicate mac in time to before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:47   apocalypse sort of as the apocalypse is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:50   starting to happen and uh and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:53   strange set of events the the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:57   they're communicating with is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58   immediately once you communicate with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   branches off you can change the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   by communicating with the past but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   can communicate with this alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:05   paths that you've created by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:06   communicating with them but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   actually the past right let's start says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   that it's not your past turns into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12   someone else's past the minute that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:13   begin to monkey with a fair i read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   to be and maybe I took this room but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18   they're communicating with some chinese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19   server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:20   yeah right well as the means by which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:23   they are doing it yeah yeah only only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   Chinese web server would send you 70 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   years into the past so you should use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   desperate method out Hillbillies to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   your video game labor for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   the idea is if they keep the quantum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:34   computer and its unlocked the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   dial into the past but but just the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:40   standard kind of many worlds idea once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42   you interfere with the past it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   your past anymore you've branched it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   and so you end up with it so in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48   book in the first 10 pages it is dense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50   and weird and it is it is I almost gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:53   up about five times it's unclear for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   long time what these two time frames are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   and how they if they have anything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:58   common with one another and then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:01   is a moment and I i think i saw other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   people commenting on this there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:04   moment i don't know how many pages into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   it where it it suddenly becomes very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:09   clear after all of this confusion about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   what's actually going on and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   really nice moment I thought I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:14   oh ok it's like an alternate future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:18   these people are like it's like Bitcoin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:21   mining except it's like a world they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   like yeah we just strip mine your world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   for information and labor and we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   really care about it because we're up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   time here doing our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31   thing and the end and that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   interesting and some of the VR stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:34   with the the the woman Flynn who's who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:37   there 3d printing things and they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   drones everywhere and they and they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41   this huge influx of money thanks to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43   people in the future and they start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   buying stuff and there's like some crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   tech there but they're also on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49   precipice of apocalypse that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   interesting the future the far future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   people are really weird and some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:56   strange things going on out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:57   I thought that was kind of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:58   so there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   so there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   there that some so for me the first part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   was a slog then there was a kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04   moment of clarity there was like oh that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:05   was really clever william gibson I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   what you did there then there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09   really interesting stuff that is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11   well yeah Bravo and then and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:15   individual worlds are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   interesting how they interact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   the peripheral is a like a a brainless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:22   body that you can ride in using VR which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:26   felt to me kind of like the one piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:29   wink wink technology that's like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31   that's totally works we got this working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   in the future that but was weird but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   allows the people from the past to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   of see the present or the whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   people from the future to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   further future tenses are difficult guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43   are following the right around with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   book you do I had no problem totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   totally makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:48   basically what happens is people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:49   the from the future more from that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:52   the far from 70 years into the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:53   use people from the past as a way to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:56   free capital and virtual and virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58   labor the book chronicles the gradual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00   disintegration of the world as we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:01   it today owing to a multitude of factors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   including environmental collapse radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   economic inequality and epidemics all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:09   the poor people die basically hence the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11   jackpot for Jackie exactly and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:14   people in the future there's a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:15   bunch of them it's now a bunch of it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   now a bunch of kleptocracy Zola garki so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:19   it's a bunch of corporate nation-states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:20   not unlike what you see in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   stephensons the diamond age book that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   like the Commission this is much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:25   yes and the thing is is this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:28   such a classically gives onian book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   so many ways because there's a whole lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32   about how nature has been quietly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:35   know destroyed and now people fetishize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:38   a lot of consumer objects that take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:39   clear inspiration from nature like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   squid suits which of this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:42   camouflage or they talk about how in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:45   future people have shirts honey beeswax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   candles despite being completely extinct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:52   and back breeding file Essenes and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:55   extinct animals is now status symbol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   which is an awesome replicator that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   make any kind of alcoholic beverage ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   except the guy who's an alcoholic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   locked out of it in Game biologically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:04   speaking I mean that was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   the thing is is this is such a gibson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   novel in that there's this extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   fetishization of material culture where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   people you know spend a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   noticing how awesome upholstery is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   luxury car yes and there's also his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   touching belief that vast amounts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   money can can make any problem go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:21   ever and not creating a captain not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:23   created cascade of future problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:26   doors all I don't know if he believes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28   that I I kind of feel like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30   the end of the book is kind of setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:31   us up for two more where it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33   this radical experiment in averting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35   the jackpot is going to backfire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37   horribly yeah what one part i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39   liked right towards the end of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:41   was when they were describing what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43   bad person had done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   oh it's like screwing around with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:48   alternate timeline which they're called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50   stubbs he would apparently turn them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:52   into giant gladiatorial combat roles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:56   just evolve super weapons out of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:59   that reminds me of what happens in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:02   stub at the end of the book we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:04   so everything's fine now that we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:08   complete control of your economy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   your billionaires and we were pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   sure we've locked everything down and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14   not then you know be it's all an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16   experiment to them because it can affect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:17   their life and there's this you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19   like maybe there's a bond there but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:21   the same time it's like well if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:22   doesn't work you guys have to live with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:24   not us but Gibson's always have been big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:27   into the themes of corruption of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:29   and outdoor power because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31   you've got that because that's the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:32   point to neuromancer you've got that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   test your ash cool people who go crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   and build satellites and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   there a is go sentience and build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   whole other alternate universe and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   that pops begin the different light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:43   trilogy correct me if I'm wrong that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45   also liked that crazy rich people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47   insulated from consequences and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:49   subsequently become crazy like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:50   something that pops up in the big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52   trilogy to so this is this is given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54   species what gives those they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56   people with the money there's big money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:57   in this big technology and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   that he has is corrupt and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:00   this corrupting effect and in fact in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:02   the stub in this you have you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04   they lay the money down to say by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07   governor they I mean they based they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:10   able with their money to completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12   suffered everything that's going on here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:13   and I i don't think that necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:14   what he's trying to hit message is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:17   yay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:18   money fixes everything its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:19   like c-money can do anything and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:23   generally does bad things during sex and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   that's what money is good but also bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   its powerful money makes things easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:30   seems to be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:31   yeah it's very seductive and chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33   are short in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:34   yes well this is like Gibson does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36   mean his his having his his chapters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:39   all very short and he cycles between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41   different character different the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:42   different points of views and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:43   always moving on to the next the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:46   chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:46   I feel like that gives it a false sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   of urgency because yeah I I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51   feel like it's my feel like it's watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   the hand watch the hand because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:54   otherwise you're like oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:55   basically story that takes place over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:56   five days or well it's ask paste right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:59   except then you realize that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:00   flipping between a guy walking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   another guy walking in your back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   first guy walking and that's not he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:05   paced got there that's not fast that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:08   just flipping his characters all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   really short lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   yes and he tends to neighbors yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:15   he has really short description and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18   really Connor and Carlos and Flynn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:21   will ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   Flynn and will fan I in Burkina oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:26   really like Connor who is the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   tests but who spends all his time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:31   poverty hand some peripheral right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:34   because he's a veteran and he's lost his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36   limbs and he can use that peripheral and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:39   he's got all his arms and legs in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:40   and that reminds me of like a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   different short stories in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:43   science-fiction goldner Selfridge back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45   in the seventies for the ideas that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   know and actually reminds me a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49   Peter wats novel starfish where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:52   premise of that was only mentally ill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   people were suited for life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   deep deep deep undersea because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:59   responded to reacted differently too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:00   deep pressure conditions that mentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   healthy people did and so there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   been kind of this fascination sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:05   with well what do we do with people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07   are differently abled truly is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:08   environment where they can thrive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10   gives us making the argument that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   technology you can do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:13   so this this book feels really over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   stuff to me i think yeah I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   this is an understatement probably i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:19   think the stub idea alone is a novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:24   then but it's called the peripheral and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26   and partway through realize okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28   it's about basically like virtual bodies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:31   or essentially that you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33   in another body and and that sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:36   the subject of a whole novel to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:38   instead and not only do you have those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:42   together which seems like there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44   too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:44   it's like spider-man feelings you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   need three of them then on top of it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   is your william gibson plan i say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:51   is somebody loves william gibson ugh it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53   ends up becoming about money and crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:55   and the gunfights and feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:58   quadcopters and candy and groans in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:01   case that's a little that's a little new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:02   variety is also there are drones here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:05   and it's just it's over it's over stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07   to me too so of so just got and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:11   and we'll go to Monte Scott you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13   like Gibson any any particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15   impressions about this one since we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17   forced you to read it before I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:20   stop at any time you know attempted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   stop many times but I just thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:25   power so I thought I mean you had a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:27   of great ideas in it i just find I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:30   it's a stylistically I find Gibson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:33   writing could be annoying i love this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:36   love his style I love his style so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:39   one we will disagree on every week it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:42   okay that you're wrong on that one Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   I i understand i know i mean he people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   lots of people love him he's just not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48   cup of tea and I kind of felt like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   end of it was like i went through all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   this and this is the whole point the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54   I i felt like i missed the end and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   would that's it it's always when did she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58   become pregnant what happened I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:00   even tell i flipped into and then kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   brings a full box of like well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:03   the end how do you rate I'm like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05   that's it by this point you're turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07   pages so fast like all right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   chapter that chapter alright no go but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:12   wait what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:13   yeah yeah it is that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:14   frustrating i was saying to Lauren after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16   i read i was like i was kinda enjoying i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18   finally got in a groove with it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:19   okay we got the two different worlds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   it's and building to a climax all then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   was like that's it and it's and it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25   sort of sudden disappointing ending if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:28   he is planning more books in this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:30   then that that actually kind of he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32   never really done the continuing story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34   thing it tends to be an oblique take in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:37   the same world the next time and if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39   does that then so be it but it was a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:41   the end was you know not there was yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:45   it was just abrupt end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:46   and perfunctory i guess but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:49   better written than slow apocalypse so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   Oh God not well I i read i would argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:54   that i read Gibson i think i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:58   read Gibson primarily for the style and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:01   and i always love his style and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:04   there are times when I mean and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:07   it's like a fever dream sometimes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:09   fact the first hundred pages of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:10   book it really was like a fever dream I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12   I was worried that I was I had a fever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14   and was completely confused and lost but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:17   when he when he hits it when he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   those points and they're like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20   trenches they're really on point about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:22   like what life is like right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24   he's using it to to make you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27   possible technical implications of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:30   present technology in the future and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:33   interesting you know MacGuffin plot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:35   draw you along then you then he nails it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:38   and and the last trilogy that he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40   that that started with pattern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:41   recognition he nailed that those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   kind of recognition might have become my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   favorite william gibson book when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:46   doesn't nail in like in the Virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   Light trilogy the bridge trilogy and end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:51   in this book I I appreciate his writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:56   but I start to see the seams of he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58   pouring a bunch of this stuff in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4198">TS</a>]

01:09:59   and stirring it around and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:01   what you get out is is a is a mess and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:04   this was this was more of a mess to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:06   there's a william gibson playbook that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:09   feel like he plays by where do I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:12   theme that talks about how technological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   disintermediation is inherently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:15   dehumanizing everyone who participates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17   chap check do I want to fetishize a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:20   luxury brand name like amazed chat while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:24   commenting on the on the questions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:27   why one might fetishize such a bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:29   life to I wanted to imagine doing what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31   imagine what life is like for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:32   uneducated pores in futureworld check it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:36   you know do I want to exotica sighs some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38   somebody who's not Anglo and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40   therefore introduced exotic Russian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:41   culture the exotic Japanese culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:43   whatever check there are a lot of light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:46   motif sticker from trilla to trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   trilogy and i found this book to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:51   big slug and so frankly for me like half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:52   the engine was like yep I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   seeing that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:55   Marley's overdrive yep I remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:58   just remember that from pattern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:01   recognition i could only give some bingo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:04   card oh yeah it was like yeah when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06   you're drinking game you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:07   William gives you could plausibly do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09   William Gibson drinking a bingo card for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:11   sure for sure and like Jason I found the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:14   ending to be really abrupt and jarring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:16   because all of a sudden Flynn is married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18   and pregnant and is apparently ok with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:21   bmis elachi well extends police officer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:24   yeah except that she's turned a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   more sophisticated because now she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:28   checking in weekly with the future to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30   shape and she's on a first-name basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   with the President and my bet is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:35   either her or one of her descendants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:36   ends up in some sort of you know sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   things have happened but you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:42   mark coo for life Flynn will be blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   blah blah you know the same way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:47   they're there were there are always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49   hooks between the trilogy's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:51   there's some offhanded mention of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:52   somebody's a in a radically different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54   position they were booked ago but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:58   are things I liked about it because I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:00   did--like i did like he's being loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:05   he seems to be getting a sense of humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:06   digital age Clovis and Connor for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:09   example are both incredibly funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11   characters for him and I enjoyed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:14   little bit of levity they provided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:15   because this is not a book that's big on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:17   having a sense of you know that said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:20   was really disappointed how there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:23   couple different parts of the book where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:26   it's like what science will help us out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28   but science will advance despite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   fact that any percent of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:31   population is dying off and it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:34   almost the opposite of the direction 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:36   problems and station eleven like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:37   everyone goes back to treating books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39   like holy sacred objects to be kept by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41   monks to scientists they managed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:43   survive everything and now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45   bringing us a better work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:46   there's nothing they can do that is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   i don't buy the apocalypse skills all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   technology but i don't know that i buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52   that immediately creates nanotechnology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:55   it'sit's world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57   leaving it for and that's all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59   doesn't like I was poor people or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:00   otherwise the jackpot man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:02   ya know and the thing that also bugs me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:05   about about this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07   okay first of all the thing I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:08   you're not really quite sure what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:09   happened to the US because the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:11   mention made his phone is like I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:12   the u.s. is like Connor only without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:14   sense of humor and you're like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16   mercenary nation-state I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:18   what I've always found kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:19   problematic is is like it's like Africa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   and South the continent of africa and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   south america never ever existed his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   books like you you never meet people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:27   from there there's there's no culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29   there's no that his characters never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:30   traveled there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:31   well that there is that joke in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:33   that means that the milagros cold iron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:35   is based in Costa Rica or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:38   that but that's it it's just kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40   joke or Columbia and cold iron was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42   misspelling of Calder on yeah they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:44   got that wrong yeah it's I mean I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:46   Gibson i love gives there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:48   little better but this book was just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   I was like yeah i'm not sure i'm picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:52   yourself after i turned the corner with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54   that moment of the of the two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   futures I was like oh ok and then I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:58   able to appreciate on a level a and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:01   ending was disappointing so yeah I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   it I I had a moment where I thought oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   my god I think I'm gonna have to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:07   give up on William it's a novel which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09   I've never done before and I didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:11   that and i found something that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:12   about I like the dread of the jackpot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:15   how how they mentioned the jackpot Flynn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:16   and she's like you know it's it's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:19   and we're like oh jeez this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:21   bad and it goes a long time where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23   trying to get information about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25   exactly did happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27   what is he not telling us about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:28   future and how it came to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:30   unfortunately when it is revealed its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32   kind of abrupt and not that interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:35   here and thats like okay well that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37   letdown and then the only other plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:38   twist that i thought was kind of clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:40   and yet at the same time felt almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:42   like he was trying too hard is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44   there's a character in the future who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46   very very old who is revealed to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:49   the present as well but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51   transgender character so we do I throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:53   you off the scent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:54   it's a man in the present but a woman in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56   the future it's kind of like a crying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   game twist again didn't it didn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:01   like it was actually very well done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:04   yeah I I didn't think it did a good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   with that I appreciated that twist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08   because i was spending a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:09   because obviously there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11   some connection to right-wing lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13   autonomy of characters again like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   station eleven i'm going who's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:16   Prophet going to be all probably this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:18   kid right that's gonna be alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:20   no we're gonna be but it's gotta be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:23   somebody clearly these two times soldier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:26   timelines are gonna have somebody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:27   common what's it gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   oh that guy and nothing really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:33   doesn't even matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:33   oh alright you go that's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:36   this but good luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:37   you got it on you although there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39   there's a nice moment where where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:40   revealed that they know to the to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42   the characters a question to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:45   the man in the present that the that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:48   the future he becomes a woman and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:51   that there is a nice scene where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:52   like I've never told anybody that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:54   could you know that and they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:55   well stubs servers anyway but that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:59   kind of a nice thing it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:00   future knows all your secrets but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:03   about that just assumed this stuff was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   going to be important like well you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:07   Flynn you cause the jackpot haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:10   tada apparently not know my take on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:14   book it felt very much to me like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:16   Gibson eyes version of neal stephenson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   anthem huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:20   possibly just because an anthem also has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:23   that moment in the middle of the really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:25   figure it out we go here's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:27   happening and you go oh that's what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:31   book is about that element felt the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:34   in both books and everything else that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   Neal Stephenson e in the one book has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   been replaced by william gibson me stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:40   in this book was like instead of monks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:43   doing math like its philosophy its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:45   quality not answering my dominator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:47   nanotechnologies yeah exactly i felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:51   like the core ideas of the book there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:54   were enough of those they're complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:55   enough that he didn't need to put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:57   nonsense like this artist skins herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:01   every few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:02   yes person has animated tattoos that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:06   apparently sent to you I found the core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08   murder mystery of this also completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10   not compelling right it's not necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:13   Gibson apparently felt the same cuz it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:16   didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:16   get this all know I felt like he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:19   taking the piss out of steampunk with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:20   the character ash yeah because he talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:24   a lot about our excessive fetishization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:25   of baroque technology and how she be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:27   appropriate for that world and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29   like okay this is him basically putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:31   down his foot and saying he doesn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:32   steampunk he wrote The Difference Engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:34   how dare he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:35   there were there was a puncturing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:36   don't know who's about steampunk there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38   a puncturing of kind of pretentiousness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40   in that of art and artists in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:44   that I i was amused by that was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:46   one of the things that I thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:48   funny in this but but yeah I'm with I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:51   like Monty that that there is again I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:54   just feels over stuff like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:55   he's got too many things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:56   checklist here and as a result the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:59   is not really ever sure what it what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:01   wants to be and his more successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:04   books are sort of about a thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   have interesting coloring around yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:08   the edges and this is more like no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:11   it's about uh two different futures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14   I and time travel of a sort and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:18   it's just like pilot mall in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:19   nanotechnology and drones and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:22   I is like it feels like it's too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:24   and neuromancer and pattern recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:26   the pros is streamlined the plot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:29   complicated but it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   streamlined and entertaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:33   yeah and this has so much stuff in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:35   his best books still have very simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37   plots it's just a decoration on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39   that makes them seem twist year than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:40   they actually are and and I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:43   decoration so it's fine and below it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:45   just a film like a film or plot that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:47   there's not one to it this yeah this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:49   like not in it not that is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51   complicated just kind of Messier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:52   and-and-and yeah overstuffed I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:55   there's a fine class rage I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:57   there's a fine raging class warrior in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4737">TS</a>]

01:19:00   william gibson that could come out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:01   you would just give more full throat to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:02   it because the way he talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:04   because because the way he talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:06   burton and connor and and especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:11   way he begins to an end especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:13   way that he points out that whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:15   wipes out the world's population isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:16   likely be one thing it's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:18   lot of things exacerbated by inequality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:20   and faulty infrastructure I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:22   is a guy who who thinks long and hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:24   and seriously about the warping effects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:26   of money and the way it works people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:28   all ends he just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:30   just gets buried under who it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:31   Army's case i think that says I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:34   that's his dick I think he's not he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:36   the kind of person who writes these kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:38   of somewhat disconnected emotionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40   commentaries on this rather than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:44   know heating up and and just making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:47   something that's a little more angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:48   let's just get this Gibson yeah people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   don't really get angry in his books do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:52   they they're confused or they're taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:54   it back with overwhelmed or or they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:56   they're even thrilled in a gentle way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:59   but I can't remember anybody who's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01   genuinely lose their head furious i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:03   think Molly got angry didn't she once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:06   maybe maybe yeah my little annalisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:08   overdrive she's pretty common one is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:10   lot of kind of her to remove emotionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:13   yeah and yeah i did not find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:14   surprising to learn that the going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16   an alternate past 2-4 resources concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:19   was taken from the story starlings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:21   misinformation yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:23   mozart and mirrored shades by rooster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:25   lling and Lewis shiner i have that story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:28   except for Stephenson and Gibson that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:30   the most cyberpunk stuff you can put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:33   one title and author mirrors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:35   yeah i have i have the cyber i have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:37   cyberpunk ontology mirrored shades for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:39   that book is yes yeah we are we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:42   desperately overtime but i want i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:43   those who read John Varley slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:45   apocalypse tell me about it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:47   didn't read it so the basic premise is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:50   that the zero petroleum event happens an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:53   angry scientists invents a bacteria that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:55   somehow causes in the world's entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:57   petroleum supply to lock up and go on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:59   series of earthquakes and implosions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:02   getting I think it's ice 94 oil you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:05   use yes yes it is and with the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:08   writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4868">TS</a>]

01:21:09   well worse than I mean at worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:12   vonnegut is most writers but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:14   dentistry better burn scars so basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:18   what happens is barley set up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:19   promise the world has no oil and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:21   whole the whole book seems can be summed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:23   up as one if humanity as you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:26   to collapse tomorrow we'd all be we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:27   all be screwed to when things turn when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:30   things go bad people will go bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:33   three it's great to be male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:37   and.and for it helps if you hoard things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:41   and five in order to deprive in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:44   survive an apocalyptic event you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:46   have advanced intel on what's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:48   happen because basically the protagonist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:49   is this out of work Hollywood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51   screenwriter who gets a hot tip from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   military guy he's been trying to talk up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   and the guide the military guy was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   yeah look the the bad the bug has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   already been spread the Middle East it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:00   gonna spread across the world military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:02   guy is literally shot and killed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:03   two pages later because the powers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:06   be are covering this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:07   this causes the protections to panic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:09   take all of their money out of the bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:11   maxed out his credit cards on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:13   survival supplies get his daughters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:16   horses from their stable and and try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18   ride this thing until hollywood hills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:19   until like an upgrade until like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:21   Richter Niner the quake-hit Los Angeles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:23   one of his writers assistance is raped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:26   by a gang of Hell's Angel and that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:27   decide they have to head someplace else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:28   and start a new life as farmers that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   your book and sounds great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:34   well is barley is a super funny super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:39   entertaining writer and he's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:41   kind of guy where if you were seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:43   stuck in an apocalypse you like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:44   this is kind of a how-to manual i need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:46   step one stock up on lithium step to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48   make sure you have a fan because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:49   got high fat and protein content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:51   step three different way to filter water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:52   like it's it's I I get the feeling he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:56   spent a lot of time trolling prepper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:57   sites for this and a lot of his later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4977">TS</a>]

01:23:01   works have have basically had had a thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:03   undercurrent of oh god were killing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:05   planet Oh God something Awful's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:06   happen civilization as we know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:08   going to end soon and so I I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10   this is him you know trying to turn like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:12   take a few deep breaths and write it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:13   out and get out of assistant perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15   therapist suggestion but it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:18   literally the exact opposite of station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:20   11 where osher bad things happen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:22   children ramneyg act for a year but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24   Shakespeare survived and in this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:25   it's like well a bunch of old men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:27   hobbyist are going to get steam trains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:28   working against we can move food up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:30   down the west coast and oh we work six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:33   days a week on a farm and we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:35   hard water but hey you're alive it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37   not great and we're back to using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:38   post office and it's so romantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:39   annually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41   I'm not sure I i think i would rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43   have gone and the shooting gallery after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   the earthquake or or maybe killed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47   Olympic Stadium bowl after the chlorine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:49   gas escaped or or because i read it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:53   what the heck is going to happen next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:55   like something horrible what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:56   like two pages later and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58   there's a revealing one chapter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5038">TS</a>]

01:23:59   they've turned element into a prison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:01   camp for Refugees them all wait what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:03   what's your uh what's your take on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:08   one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10   don't be in Los Angeles when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:11   apocalypse happens if you take away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:13   wherever maybe but yeah yeah well i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:17   going to bed Los Angeles briefly but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19   think i can get on board with that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:21   mean he is really into detailing how one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:25   goes through an apocalypse e so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:28   if you're into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:29   check it out it's a quick read I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:31   certainly keeps it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33   stuff happens bad stuff happens yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:36   much bad stuff happened having heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:37   your description of the the all oil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:40   turns to goo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:41   um i would mention the windup girl which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:45   I have plugged many times by palette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:47   bacigalupi that is better that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:49   story about a world where we're Oriole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:52   has run out and you know they make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:55   work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:55   it's not great and you know the Seas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:57   have risen and they've got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:59   genetically engineered elephants that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:02   crank turbines in order to generate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:03   power but it's you know I I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:06   that's a that that's a nice story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:10   what would happen in our dependence on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:11   oil for for energy sources that uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:15   doesn't an apocalypse it just ends in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:18   kind of unpleasant future but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:19   it's not like the War end of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:21   happened a short story where it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:23   the an Amish community they find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:26   that the rest of the world ended and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:27   they're like oh too bad for you guys huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:30   I'd it will that's that's how the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:32   policeman trilogy and nobody is in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:35   Amish community family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:36   yeah and that they're living their lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:38   until the world ends in one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:41   favorite post-apocalyptic details how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:43   and y the last man they finally get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45   the African continent and find out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:46   they're like well you know the women are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:48   fine here they didn't have any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5148">TS</a>]

01:25:49   social collapse because they're already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:52   doing a lot of everything anyway they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:54   they just kept on hitting on you and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:57   liked that a lot because it was a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:59   way to tweak the f no centrosome of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:01   lot of apocalyptic tales which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:03   Oh God North America's and flames all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:06   the world must have gone down and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:08   know there's no now we were fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:11   yeah we kept the poachers away from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:13   lines it's all cool if you make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:16   superbug work too quickly no one's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:18   have time to fly to Africa to infect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:21   everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:22   that's true too yeah yeah I was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:24   got clearance station 11 where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:27   just missed getting it at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:29   and so they never got it that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:31   seem to make a lot of sense to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:32   again we're not gonna talk anymore about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:33   station eleven now suffice it to say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:37   is of a certain Caillou you know by now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:39   whether you want to read this book or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:40   not if you if you haven't already read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:42   it and if you have you also know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:44   you can feel your presence your regret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:47   for your delight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:49   no matter what that's right all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:51   we've written we've we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:52   many books what I'm not gonna even ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:53   you what you're reading because that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:54   blunt books and lots of time and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:56   long book club so I'm going to thank my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:57   guests for talking about many books with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   me Scott McNulty as always a pleasure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:01   have you on the book club and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:03   pleasure to meet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:04   this is wiser thank you very much it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:06   always a pleasure to explore the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:08   the world with you body actually thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:12   you for being here and making a list and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5232">TS</a>]

01:27:15   checking it twice about things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:18   bothersome about the apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:20   thank you it was a pleasure having you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:22   and David lower thank you for reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:25   one of the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:26   parting is such sweet sorrow even if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:28   don't care for Shakespeare anymore i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:30   hoping for a quote from Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:31   Voyager oh well well I've got this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:34   in Neelix's lungs script here there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:37   point in having playwrights after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   apocalypse and the right because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41   all just Shakespearean all shakes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   all other books were burned for fuel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45   Lulu of the forest and thanks everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:48   for listening to be uncomfortable we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:50   see you next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbSOO9g/5270">TS</a>]