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00:13:08 ◼ ► opposed to say you know the devastation in print industry of magazines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/788">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► newspapers and you know things like that like so they're still that's what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/794">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► this whole thing so entrenched is that there's still so much money being poured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/800">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► into cable TV every single month by any household that can afford it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/805">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► so I don't know I feel like there is no way to just sort of blow that up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/815">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► know that nerds you know I'm sure that like people who listen to the show more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/819">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► way more likely than the typical consumer to have you know what he called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/824">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► cut the cord and stop paying for cable but still watch lots of TV because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/831">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► you know do it all over the internet with Netflix and Apple TV and Hulu and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/837">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► stuff like that I tried that and I went back actually I i i know i I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/842">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► probably get away with it but you know I my wife I don't think I think Amy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/850">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► watches too many shows that aren't yeah it's a similar situation here have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/854">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► ever watched a YouTube channel that's another thing where Google has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/861">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► putting all this money into these YouTube channels and in theoretically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/865">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► that's kind of pride targeting even the younger generation and the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/868">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► people who you just never had cable you know maybe they grew up with cable in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/873">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► their house but they went up the school and and switch now I don't think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/877">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► ever seen a YouTube channel I don't know it's very interesting one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/882">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► that I think makes television so much more defensible then you know print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/889">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► print news or whatever media is just the complexity and cost of producing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/895">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► exponentially harder to make good video than it is to make good print so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/903">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► know it's interesting to see Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/910">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► best think hundreds of millions of dollars in these YouTube channels which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/913">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► are trying to make good enough stuff to watch but hasn't really caught my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/917">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► attention yeah the big thing no I think any disruption has to meet this criteria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/923">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► just go back to the iPad introduction and then Steve Jobs almost spent at Van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/928">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► is there room for a product between a phone and a laptop and if so what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/938">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► it be and that the whole point is it's gotta be better for some things than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/943">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► either the phone or the laptop I think that's a rule for any kind of disruption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/948">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► and just just go back to your toward the front example that watching it over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/954">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► it's not just hey I can do it over the internet it's just better like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/961">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► if you want to watch live it's no longer plastered with ads and you can time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/965">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► shift without needing to fill up your TiVo with five hours a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/971">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► exactly or even needing a TiVo you know I would eat up the whole Tebow basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/976">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► right and with the TiVo model you have to know in advance that you wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/982">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► have it recorded and I you know I don't know if you like me but I never remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/986">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► to set the tone now so I would think like a great tour to Francistown I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/990">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► watch it and I think God and tape I still use the verb tape I do too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/995">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► that's one of the things were you and you would think that the undermanned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► systems would be sophisticated enough by 2013 to see you wouldn't even need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► DVR stuff but but no they're not only did the first quarter break great I tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1013">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► you about great sponsor mail route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► mhm I L carro ute you may remember them have sponsored the show before it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► fantastic service here's the deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► email still number one form of communication business personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► everything and the truth of it is ninety percent of all email messages sent every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► single day for spam mail route is from the team that created Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► Forefront bunch of ex Microsoft guys real smart no hardware no software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► install all you do is forward you have your MX records point to mail route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► first your mail goes to them then it goes to your mail server just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► stay there it is goes through their filters and they take out all the spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► and it is fantastic just works and makes it did add about I know about a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1073">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► or so to email delivery so it's practically invisible once you've setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► setup want all your email filters through there no more spam comes through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► to your mail server and I think I think with a lot of this the NSA stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► stuff like that I think a lot of people are starting to revisit the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► hosting her own mail server or you know at least if not the server itself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► using your own domain and going somewhere like not Gmail or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► like that but one of the things that makes gmail more useful than running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► around all servers that gmail is pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► well use mail route instead pointed to your own hosted private mail mail server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► and you don't have the problem and I love this too is my favorite thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► loved explain this is is that they do this Great Trek they explain it on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► site but here's what they do is whenever you get mail is one of the many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► you get your server incoming message comes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► totally legit in the email protocols for the server to say hey I'm busy right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► now try again in a minute and a properly configured mail server they give you dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► were sending me mail from a machine that had never seen before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► properly configure mail server that's no problem a minute later your server is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► going to your SMTP servers gonna send a message right back again and then mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► route was ok good I'll take it all those bodies out there all the PCs that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► been for debts and all the spam that are just spam bots that they don't they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► move on they never come back they get that response from the mail server and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► never come back so the spam and they're gonna have to analyze the message for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► for all those machines all those machines sending spam out from bots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► Marriott didn't have to analyze the message they never even get the message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► never even comes in because it the server doesn't do the handshake thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► come back in a great great service really great prices so here's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► do find out more go to mail route and may I borrow ute dotnet / the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► and that way they'll know you came from the job and check them out my thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► have you ever run your own mail server you mean like physically manage this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► server have like a server that might be managed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► no no not physically I i in high school I want to say I set up the Eudora [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► internet mail server on my Mac over dial-up I don't recommend them and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► you'd have to your machine would dial in and get the mail I remembered and I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► to it my dad and I had to phone to phone lines running into a basement and we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► dial up we had these wacky dial-up accounts with static IP addresses and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► would just stay dialed up twenty four seven could you could basically never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► call our house signals on both lines just email it but I ran a hotline server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► on that thing and I also ran a bail server for a while and I wasn't my main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► email address was mostly just for just to see you know what kind of experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► was pretty damn I don't recommend doing that even even now with broadband [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► there's absolutely no reason to run your own mail server on your puter this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► of fun fun project I can't even imagine doing that now so I wanted to ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► about about Vesper ok you know you've been doing it for over a month now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► I'm just curious and i've kind of entered this round two somewhat recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► and I'm curious like you know someone who's been observing and critiquing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► analyzing this business for now five years the app economy and curious you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► know how has your experience been participating in it it's been very fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► you know you do you're talking more now about the month sentence ship rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► than like the money you know the development process and it has been fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► it has I would say and it is very close to what I expected in terms of sales in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► response I think support has been handles 99% of the support for us but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► seems that I keep my eye on it though it does seem though that the support we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► by email has been lower than I'd worried because it's it's the sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► people say oh man $4.99 for an iPhone app that expensive but even at $4.99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► once you or if if you're spending just a couple of minutes dealing with support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► you you lose must mean you can't it's understandable but but the customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► have been great I think it's they've been really really easy to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► complimentary have have made many great suggestions do you like it you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► spend more time on a door or I definitely I know its ongoing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► I mean it's has been a distraction from during fire but I guess someone I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► anything I do thats not during fireballs distraction from during fireball that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► okay that's life you know right but you know it's it was never it was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► meant to be a forty hour week things from my role it's you know little slice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► of my day every day and I'll enjoy it I enjoyed you enjoy it that's great is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► is it interesting to see that kind of the app world from the other side orders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► at I guess you your conduct pretty close to it anyways very well it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► different when it for real and it's yours makes it personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► how many articles have I written about a projections going out and then of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► my app gets rejected what do I do but but it's interesting that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► interesting now though that we're past the moon we knew that when we announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► it that it was you know going to garner a significant amount of day one press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► you know holy cow Brent Simmons John Gruber and some other guy a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► and the dike the day one day to sales were actually there were great and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► I guess it's still the majority of the total sales we've had that it was lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► than I expected but the next week or two of sales was higher than I'd expected I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► expected us to sell a ton of copies in the first 24 hours and then immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► fall off a cliff and instead it was it was a lower Dave Winer that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► initial 48 hours but then the drop off it has dropped off but it was a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► slower and steadier than I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► yeah I assume you look at the charts but like the app Annie cumulative charts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► kind of interesting yeah you can see like you know when you update its bikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► up and I see you took a comma to the name between last monday and tuesday for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► this we did we did this is one thing weird were twenty how to how to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► regular day-to-day you know we haven't had a major new release you know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► get the average daily thing sales to go up a little bit and so we switched rooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► just having the app's name in the listing from just plain Vesper to Vesper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► simple and elegant notes the ID thinking being that if somebody searches for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► let's say who hasn't heard about their just searching for a note app if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► typed note we are listed somewhere in the results pretty you know reasonably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► high but our icon in the name best bird saying nothing about what the apt us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► so you know is it is it a problem that people who already haven't heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► Vesper wouldn't even think to click on it in the store to try to do it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► guess last week we change it when we had an update we change the listing name to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► Vespers simple and elegant note but like I may even matter what number is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► front of it like you know where we are in productivity like but it's like 47 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► periods base Vesper but that's it for the first line and certain other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► listings I forget which device but then it breaks to the next line and the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► line just said simple and elegant dot dot dot so the word note didn't make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► in so it looked like it was really close to getting simple to wrap on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► previous line so we tried taking out the comment which we thought would make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► work but it apparently didn't so we took out that comment I can't believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► you notice that of course I did that's why you know I'm a writer and editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► it's interesting and I've had the same experience which is trying to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► you know the App Store search as a user is obviously not ideal I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► actually made it worse when they switched from the ListView to this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► of like our debut in the App Store search on the iPhone and in my field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► city guides there and then there's the problem he can't duplicate names the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► Store so if someone has San Francisco travel guide that's the only one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► can exist with that title so the solution for everyone else has been to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► add these kind of keywords to the title which is actually I found out completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► by accident not a lot so we knew we had to get rejected we have to redo it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► it's fine it's pretty good policy is not to have too many keywords in the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► but it's been very interesting to see kind of now I'm sure you can do this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► the productivity feel too now I can look at the top ranking travel absence ok and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► how much money that gets make the day that's you know that's that's okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► it's been really interesting and I'm sure you've kind of experience this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► like the whole how big is the App Store economy really and it should we be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► tweaking the price or or you know shifting the focus on making the appt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► more of a kind of social collaboration experience and that kind of stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► I'm very interested to see what you guys do it and I've been running into people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► who who use it in single player mode and people are people dig it yeah its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1735">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► response has been great and we've really like I mean that's the main thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► know rhonda something as I really I used that depend on it maybe it's close but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► really do put put much thought into it and you know it's the dragging up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► down that really helps for me at least organized I thought but the big thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► me is that strategy wise you just don't know where you're gonna end up as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► know how successful it's gonna be into you hit the long run and you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► know what what is the long run for an iPhone app is it six months is it a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► but at some point it settles in and that you know how successful your butt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► one month in which is you know we're like five weeks now it's too early to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► so I don't know but in the meantime you know tinkering with some of the stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► kinda hate the adding that simple elegant notes after the name but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► know maybe it helps if it does help you know then it's it worth it but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► little gross because they're not keywords you know it is I like it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► like a subheading which i think is responsible for a lot more book sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► and people it's not that it's just it's not like you're trying to goose your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► search rankings you're trying to explain what you're clever name means yet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► know that's exactly the announcement friend Paul closest noticed you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► name change in the listings and any exact said the exact same thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► it's like the way that books especially non-fiction books nowadays can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► have a simple title has to be a title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► and then you know an explanation of what it is it's not like you're gonna just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► name your appt simple elegant notes I mean you could but I can look good on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► the springboard so so they like Moneyball I just looked it up so money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► money by the great book by Michael Lewis on the Oakland A's from from the late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► nineties and early 2000 it's not just Moneyball Moneyball the art of winning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► an unfair game you know everything looks like a little cold subtitle I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► feel like the App Store should make that a field let it be named and then have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► subtitle filled with fairly severe character limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► yeah like 50 or something like that yeah I agree especially if they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► maintain this requirement that note 2 apps can have the same title because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► know now what were we passed a million after getting close to a million apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► and you know at some point you just run out of options for you know and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► some app that launched five years ago and hasn't been updated has the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► that you only use and you're putting a lot of time and effort into it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► able to use that name so I went to one point they're gonna start or if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► ever well but what point they'll start calling seemingly dead apps from the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► Store like how many apps are in there now that don't even run on iOS 6 let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► alone 7 I think that's kind of how they do right as you just can't if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► running iOS 6 can you even in the App Store see apps that don't support iOS 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► and insert or anything like that I i dont know I don't think it would let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► download an app that you can't run so I guess that's kind of how they but are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► they still sitting there squatting on names I believe the day oh yeah I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► assume so yes it did they ever you know just kind of start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► but then what if someone is still using that app on an old first edition like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► have the first iPad and now work totally hosed because you know eventually a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► of the absurd gonna break so far so far they have it but because you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► should you expect you can still download it I guess I don't know yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► know and that's the kind of stuff where I i assume someone's thinking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► but i dont know can be interesting how's the so I think that is a distressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► since last year on the show the San Francisco city guide I know you got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► out just before the BDC remember linking to it helpful for all the land should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► during fireball nerds who are in town but you weren't you were on before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► yeah I think I was on fire before that house icon now that you've expanded to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► 22 so a couple things first of all the the concept people really like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► they really take it like they have been getting just tremendous feedback from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► people saying yeah this is great to see exactly what I need while I'm traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► or even you know just kind of getting outside the house I would love a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► thoughtful short simple list of great places to go but the the best feedback I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► think that we've gotten is from dozens of people who say this is awesome I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► really wanna make this you know I wanna I wanna make these lists and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► I don't get too detailed now but that's kind of where I see the future of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► going is you know less about me making these lists although I you know I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► making them and I'm gonna continue making them forever but but trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► figure out an easy and fun way for other people to make them and taking some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► the lessons we you know we've learned about the kind of the bottlenecks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► surprisingly or maybe that's presently the longest time wise element of making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► one of these city notes apps is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► photographs is you know some some of these ITEC iTech myself some of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► publicity photos from the venues some of them are Flickr Creative Commons but by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► far the biggest time suck is this photo so how do we kind of rethink the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► so that we don't rely necessarily on having a photo for each place having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► migrated away a super high quality yeah yeah I mean most seasoned professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► photos in the photo credit the photographer cause they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► they're doing it either the either the restaurant or the shop has his either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► paid them has some arrangement with the photographer where they can use these as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► they're like official publicity photos so but you know the notion of the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► and iPad is a creative device and not just a consumption device like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► something I really want to tap into it and let people really be creative with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► these things so it's not going to happen overnight but that's really kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► direction that I want to take it and I think it's going to be a lot more fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► and more successful you know it's great like when we release a new app like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► San Francisco app and it gets like you said some some press attention or or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► daring fireball link or something like that like we both times we launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► their cities we became the number one pay travel app on the App Store Ian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► first time it happened I was like oh my god did I sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► twenty thousand apps today or that it's like now it's actually a few hundred so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► you know trying to rely less on being ranked so high you know in in pain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► figure out new ways to get more people using it and not just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► downloading it and then not looking at it again but really kind of playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► it every day so you know I wish I had thought about all this and do it when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► started over a year ago but that doesn't work like that so do you think for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► is your main or is it like maybe it's fifty fifty books are you more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► interested in getting people aware of city not outside the App Store just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► general awareness or is it about get raising the awareness inside the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► Store in getting good rankings on the Travel section in them in the in the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► Store I would say primarily now would be more outside the App Store I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► that one of the kind of engineering or whatever you wanna call product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► decisions I made very early on was that in the current kind of existence each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► city would be a separate out and I thought that would be the smart way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► go about it because people would be searching for cities specific cities if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► they wanted information and I thought that there would be an upsurge volume in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► the App Store to make that a good decision but it turns out that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► you know what what will eventually do and what I should have done for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► beginning was just make one big gap has all the cities and it as either in-app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► purchases or some sort of a nap feature because the number of people searching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► specifically for San Francisco guide is no single digits every day or or or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► know it the search result so but you know any time we do an article that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► linked or even a treat is a huge spike in sales so you know potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► the idea as the App Store gets bigger and I guess just more apps and and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2333">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► the same amount of space on your screen so really to be a successful brand in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► mobile now you really have to be everywhere not just in the App Store so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► yeah I don't think I think it's important it's important for us to cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► I really do think long-term I mean hopefully you know we will seek out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► spot where people of looking for notes like I want a better note app than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► one that comes with the phone will find Vesper in the App Store and consider it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► maybe buy it but I think ultimately our best chances to raise awareness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► Vesper outside the App Store said that people go to the App Store looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► best per I think it's a better and more sustainable strategy you know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► think you know I mean obviously evernote is a huge you know five hundred-pound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► gorilla in that space and I think you know and they clearly have that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► just that people get Evernote because they were in the App Store looking for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► No Tappan founded people have heard of ever know and I think then you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► yea well with Evernote I mean that's how especially once you are that size and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► you have to go cross platform and you know when the things we think about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► like what what if we had an Android version how would be charged for stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► or even just a web version you know I assume maybe someday there will be a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► version of you know something that that where the iTunes currency doesn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► like how do you even think about that do you do need a virtual currency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► everywhere you just need to use different payment engines and that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► of stuff and thankfully like we're still at a point in its simplicity and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► looks like you are to where that's not really a concern but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► you know at some point it will be so but in general it's just about being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► wherever people are who want smart in my case Smart City information and in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► case very simple notes system the thing too is man search results in the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/2457">TS</a>]
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00:55:12 ◼ ► place at like two or three times a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/3312">TS</a>]
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00:57:15 ◼ ► year it would be even more incremental like I don't think it wouldn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► wouldn't help them increase the pace of technology it would just mean that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/3439">TS</a>]
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00:57:39 ◼ ► camera but now the quad-core 60 GPU six months after that even less dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/3459">TS</a>]
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00:58:01 ◼ ► know that somehow they released twelve months a year that you know we have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► know paper thin phones they made a transparent aluminum or something we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/3486">TS</a>]
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00:58:27 ◼ ► anything happening at some point they'll have to get out of this current thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/3507">TS</a>]
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00:59:00 ◼ ► know last year you're right I everything's cool you know there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/3540">TS</a>]
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00:59:15 ◼ ► whatever is coming up to the iPad this year it wasn't ready in February but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/3555">TS</a>]
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00:59:25 ◼ ► until then regular schedule coming out around April and then they different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwnLqDM/3565">TS</a>]
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