The Talk Show

55: Black to the Mac


00:00:00   you should try to get you should have gotten Martha Stewart on this week with [TS]

00:00:03   what's going on with that I've been so busy this week I saw at Martha Stewart [TS]

00:00:06   was in the news and I have no idea why so too did two things this week I guess [TS]

00:00:12   your company did one of them but she gets sued by the Lodz Lodz says hi and [TS]

00:00:18   she says she gets to buy loads as for like five thousand bucks over late the [TS]

00:00:23   in-app purchase thing that she's she's got some I don't even know what they are [TS]

00:00:28   but she's got some stops some have to do this in a purchase [TS]

00:00:32   yes I'm at the use in 2010 for those who do not to Martha Martha Stewart lol [TS]

00:00:40   really so she soon I'm she's like trying to get their their claim invalidated [TS]

00:00:45   awesome yeah which would be great because I think that would have assumed [TS]

00:00:49   that would have implications for everybody else too late for those of you [TS]

00:00:54   guys don't remember load says hello D sys I think it stands for its like the [TS]

00:00:58   landlord that means a bunch of assholes is a true patent troll like it's it's [TS]

00:01:07   there there is nothing they make nothing their office is like a broom closet in [TS]

00:01:13   Texas patent troll get over use patent troll is used like there's all sorts of [TS]

00:01:22   cool legitimate complaints about the us- patent system worldwide patents and [TS]

00:01:27   software patents in particular and and and people throw around the term patent [TS]

00:01:33   troll to mean companies that are doing objectionable things with patents but [TS]

00:01:37   that's not really patent troll is really a company that is like the epitome of [TS]

00:01:41   the problems with the patent system which is a company that actually has no [TS]

00:01:45   product doesn't do anything as a patent but has no product that actually does [TS]

00:01:49   the thing that the patent covers that just exists to people and and export [TS]

00:01:54   licenses and that's what lotus's and they've gone after which is that further [TS]

00:02:01   objection apart they've gone after a lot of little guys like you know when you [TS]

00:02:05   sue Apple over patent [TS]

00:02:07   are you sue Microsoft you know they're ready for it and they saw other people [TS]

00:02:12   they've got you know big team of full-time patent lawyers and I'm sure [TS]

00:02:16   it's a pain in the ass to them every time it happens but it's nowhere near as [TS]

00:02:19   big a deal is when you see news I got friends at the icon factory or James [TS]

00:02:24   Thompson the guy behind drag thing you know his Toa systems is literally a [TS]

00:02:30   two-person company at him and his wife and then they got you know big patent [TS]

00:02:35   fight on their hands so hooray for you might yeah and then she drops her iPad [TS]

00:02:42   tracks the corner tracks the glass in the corner I guess I don't think it's [TS]

00:02:48   all the way across but I didn't get it too far into this this rabbit hole but [TS]

00:02:52   she thinks she took it something about so do I just wait until someone from [TS]

00:02:59   Apple comes and picks it up and then she was she was kinda getting upset about it [TS]

00:03:08   on Twitter and and then apparently I guess she got called behind her somehow [TS]

00:03:15   she got feedback from Apple PR saying hey you know like now and so she said [TS]

00:03:21   something about that on Twitter too but her complaint are part of a complaint [TS]

00:03:28   was that she said she said you know you guys should fix this Steve Jobs gave me [TS]

00:03:33   this I you know I don't know exactly sure how to react to Steve gives you an [TS]

00:03:43   iPad you do want it [TS]

00:03:47   the company take care of that iPad in perpetuity [TS]

00:03:52   it's funny that you would like it also means she must have been she must be [TS]

00:03:56   using a pretty old iPad right i mean what's the last one he could have given [TS]

00:04:01   it would have been like to thank an iPad 2 and not even are administering the [TS]

00:04:14   other hand [TS]

00:04:15   Martha Stewart could probably afford to buy yourself a new iPad [TS]

00:04:19   so it's pretty awesome obviously afforded payloads is $5,000 in its [TS]

00:04:25   really cause she's gonna spend a lot more in that fight right that's pretty [TS]

00:04:31   awesome maybe her frugality is that's exactly that that's that it's extortion [TS]

00:04:37   the patent troll game is genuine extortion where they just they they set [TS]

00:04:41   a price that is in no way less than it would cost to fight and so it just you [TS]

00:04:48   know it can be a very practical and I don't blame anybody who settles you know [TS]

00:04:53   who knows I might too I don't depending on what they did you know that it's you [TS]

00:04:57   know it can be incredibly expensive that's what makes it extortion I'd love [TS]

00:05:06   to see probably don't want to know the list of people that they have extorted [TS]

00:05:12   to date and it's so funny because it was like it's just like when I've seen some [TS]

00:05:17   of the list it's just it just hangs between Mike multi-billion dollar [TS]

00:05:22   conglomerates and like yeah one person mom-and-pop part-time software jobs [TS]

00:05:28   remember that one time when dealing systems was announced as one of their [TS]

00:05:32   targets in which is James Thompson you know little to persons offered company [TS]

00:05:36   with the next company listed was the Walt Disney Company does that even with [TS]

00:05:44   hopefully she she sticks it to a degree yeah so anyway you couldn't get her yet [TS]

00:05:57   me when I was a big fan with the Stuart I have to swim you know used to watch [TS]

00:06:05   her show you know we don't make time for it to be like flipping through the [TS]

00:06:09   channels and when the Martha Stewart Show is on we watch and it was like it [TS]

00:06:13   sounds so dreadfully boring and it kind of is except that it's like it's so [TS]

00:06:19   boring that like wraps around [TS]

00:06:20   it is fascinating and she is such an interesting person she so clearly leg [TS]

00:06:26   and obsessive-compulsive n-ergy you know in her own way a designer and it it it's [TS]

00:06:33   a year so many ways on her show where she just does not try to hide it [TS]

00:06:37   that she's a very you know I can still don't think there and Steve Jobs your [TS]

00:06:42   pals but I think that you know they get a way that he was sort of in not that [TS]

00:06:46   she's a nut in the same ways and it was just fascinating actually thinking about [TS]

00:06:50   shimon she went to jail because I mean I'm assuming she probably had multiple [TS]

00:06:56   chances to settle that you know I don't remember about that as she could tell [TS]

00:07:01   she really did I think she gets YouTube and so maybe they were trying to make it [TS]

00:07:07   I think that I don't know that she had a chance to settle i really dunno maybe [TS]

00:07:11   that's maybe that's true you think from was the ACC's point of view you you [TS]

00:07:22   don't look good sending Martha but I don't know if she doesn't show much [TS]

00:07:27   interest and so now the people who should get it exactly the sort of [TS]

00:07:32   inmates running the asylum aspect that maybe that's it she's not one of them [TS]

00:07:40   he's an entertainer one of my favorite things about the Muslim artists or Joey [TS]

00:07:47   me my wife has a terrific margarita recipe but it really just it's just [TS]

00:07:55   slightly tweaked version of an NCAA me missus we got from Martha Stewart and I [TS]

00:08:01   think you really wanna get a margarita recipe from Martha Stewart but it's [TS]

00:08:04   fantastic [TS]

00:08:05   number one it is I think literally three quarters 2 killer it's like three parts [TS]

00:08:10   to like a quarter part fresh lime and orange janet to really and that's [TS]

00:08:20   records mostly line but a little bit I think orange juice thank forget but it's [TS]

00:08:26   all fresh squeezed [TS]

00:08:27   three quarters 2 killer and he was a guy who knew that actually is sort of the [TS]

00:08:33   key to a good margarita served in hand blown glass on a daily that you made [TS]

00:08:42   yourself and then I made it I was serving at like paper cups so here is a [TS]

00:08:53   good one I loved it I love this stuff I love these did the analyst to see the [TS]

00:08:58   thing with the you know Philip elmer-dewitt this has always seemed he [TS]

00:09:04   does a good job of sort of in my acting like like like analyst specific claim [TS]

00:09:10   chowder and just sort of you know holding them to their predictions and [TS]

00:09:15   the thing with the iPhone 5 us and see is you know how many were gonna sell any [TS]

00:09:20   opening weekend and you know for years Apple as you know I think every year [TS]

00:09:24   every time the iPhones come out they've you know after the opening weekend [TS]

00:09:27   they've asked how many they sold and the wall street consensus was like five to [TS]

00:09:33   six million and arab couple like what's-his-name the TV guy at Munster [TS]

00:09:39   Gene Munster was five or six million and Apple announces the number and its nine [TS]

00:09:44   million and instead of wow we were wrong a lot more was well they didn't really [TS]

00:09:51   sell nine million they really sold five or six million which is what we said and [TS]

00:09:57   there's like a bunch of them in a closet or a nerd store shelves or something [TS]

00:10:04   like that [TS]

00:10:05   alright I think what the Wall Street Journal did was said oh yeah they saw [TS]

00:10:11   them anybody to back out all these other one first of all you take out Chinese [TS]

00:10:15   China doesn't count [TS]

00:10:16   doesn't count because they just went in to change that doesn't mean that doesn't [TS]

00:10:20   count the fact that they're selling two new phones to go take out the sea [TS]

00:10:25   doesn't count that doesn't count so when you take out all these other things the [TS]

00:10:29   day and the sales are not that impressive even though the numbers that [TS]

00:10:33   they were calling for before the announcement they didn't say oh no we're [TS]

00:10:36   not counting the five see where only count [TS]

00:10:39   in the 5s they just that's what makes it so comical to me like you know I hate to [TS]

00:10:45   be wrong I really do I've said before I get there is you know the whole point [TS]

00:10:51   during fireball is to write about great products and to try never to be wrong [TS]

00:10:57   but I fail I do i mean it's human so I'm wrong sometimes and you know what I do [TS]

00:11:02   when I'm wrong I say ok I was wrong here's why [TS]

00:11:05   and you know it's great it's such a relief just say just try it sometime [TS]

00:11:10   yeah I was wrong so comical it is a good question [TS]

00:11:18   like like there is an and again I i think that these guys you know clearly [TS]

00:11:23   wrong because they were calling out total iPhone sold for the weekend in [TS]

00:11:26   their predictions but I do think it is an interesting question as to what the [TS]

00:11:32   split is between the 5s and the five see and how how does that compare to [TS]

00:11:37   previous years like last year just one year ago when the iPhone 5 went on sale [TS]

00:11:42   did they sell a lot of the 10 year old for s because of the discount applied to [TS]

00:11:49   the 40 S over the same weekend I tend to think no I tend to think that you know [TS]

00:11:57   especially when they were just your old and two-year-old models at the lower [TS]

00:12:00   price point that those just sold the people as they on a regular schedule [TS]

00:12:06   you know like when they decided to buy a new phone they go in the store and got [TS]

00:12:10   it whereas the people who actually know the new iPhone goes on sale today at [TS]

00:12:16   nine o'clock there all interested in top-line [TS]

00:12:20   people don't go wait in line to buy it but this is the first time you could [TS]

00:12:24   actually have some kind of indication about how well that second tier sold [TS]

00:12:33   how well they're included in the numbers now they're included in the new numbers [TS]

00:12:39   I'm assuming well I mean I wonder Apple's does Apple include like they [TS]

00:12:46   probably include the for a student thing I don't know about that no but anyway [TS]

00:12:53   even if they're even after throwing for us in there as well [TS]

00:12:59   can't couldn't you tell with this one from local medics tried to do a web [TS]

00:13:06   analysis to see how many you know what the percentage of 5 seized on the web [TS]

00:13:12   was versus 5 S's and I think they came up with something like to go back and [TS]

00:13:19   look like 430 yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't know how they did that though [TS]

00:13:24   because I know maybe I'm wrong I actually don't even know what like those [TS]

00:13:28   in app analytics packages can see I don't know that either assuming that [TS]

00:13:33   they figure it out somehow like you can you can run some tests on like the CPU [TS]

00:13:38   speed or something and know that you're going on in a seven instead of in a sex [TS]

00:13:42   but I don't know the exact model right I don't know how you would be able to tell [TS]

00:13:47   a five see apart from a plain old five which is really what it looks like [TS]

00:13:51   internally I don't know maybe there's some way that's why didn't I didn't link [TS]

00:13:56   to their thing because I don't trust those in app analytics stats all that [TS]

00:14:02   much because I don't either because I I question the sort of apps that include [TS]

00:14:07   them like I feel like a lot of the apps I use don't use sketchy ad based [TS]

00:14:14   analytics cuz I don't use abstinent Madison you guys you guys use that right [TS]

00:14:18   well best investor yeah it's loaded with [TS]

00:14:23   just really everything we deserve all this it's really only about a good call [TS]

00:14:31   ya otherwise you don't get good data we track your location are not true we [TS]

00:14:47   should be very clear about that but I would love to I didn't but I was funny [TS]

00:14:56   to them because all those people jumped on the fact that after the five see you [TS]

00:15:00   went on pre-order the week before that Apple didn't announce anything about [TS]

00:15:04   those numbers but like I wrote when when that became a little mini scandal and [TS]

00:15:09   everybody jump or not everybody but the pessimist jump to the conclusion that [TS]

00:15:13   they must be bad because otherwise they promote them that there's no way they [TS]

00:15:18   were going to break out the 5s from five see cuz they don't want competitors to [TS]

00:15:22   know that [TS]

00:15:22   yeah Boulevard would point out is that all these analysts are going nuts about [TS]

00:15:28   this and none of the other smartphone companies ever adjust their even say how [TS]

00:15:32   many phones they've sold period Samsung doesn't say a minimum day every once in [TS]

00:15:38   a while they do right they put it like out of minutes text you can't really is [TS]

00:15:45   the whole question about them doing shipments as opposed to sales and yeah I [TS]

00:15:50   mean which they should they don't know exactly when the phone gets old anyway [TS]

00:15:57   but you know what Apple sells a cell phone from its store sold right and one [TS]

00:16:05   other thing too is that clearly you know this [TS]

00:16:09   the stores just like with durable as weak on the show if you wanted to get [TS]

00:16:14   one on Friday would you should have gone to an Apple store not the carrier stores [TS]

00:16:17   because that's where the stores that are getting the most of them and Apple [TS]

00:16:21   doesn't count those as sold until customers have sold them like they do [TS]

00:16:28   currently when they when they ship a box of brand new iPhones to a Verizon [TS]

00:16:32   Wireless retail store those count as sold because Verizon [TS]

00:16:36   the phones and gives out more money in the account is sold and so if they are [TS]

00:16:40   sitting on sold in the Verizon store they haven't been sold to customers yet [TS]

00:16:45   but the ones that go to the Apple stores they don't they don't count until you [TS]

00:16:49   have to tell somebody buys it and that's also true for the as yet unknown shipped [TS]

00:16:54   online orders right and so like I don't even know if I think the last I checked [TS]

00:17:00   every single one of the 5 S's every color it just when you go to order it [TS]

00:17:04   online now it doesn't give you a day to just says October oh is that right [TS]

00:17:08   yeah cause I think that there I don't know I feel like they can't even they [TS]

00:17:14   just want to ask to me but that means did you know however many people I'm [TS]

00:17:18   sure it's probably millions right now have ordered online [TS]

00:17:23   a new 5s and it isn't yet in their hands and it's you know coming in October but [TS]

00:17:28   those won't count as sold in Apple by a pond till you know ship have it in your [TS]

00:17:33   hand I actually wasn't carrier's store because because I was switching from [TS]

00:17:40   AT&T to Verizon and I didn't know how well we would be able to deal with that [TS]

00:17:45   but also because I walked right up and I wasn't getting I was I got a 16 gig [TS]

00:17:53   black you know good space great so I knew I was getting a phone that they [TS]

00:17:57   were most likely to have first-rate white gold I certainly when I'm gone [TS]

00:18:02   there but I figure 16 gig black space [TS]

00:18:07   they're gonna have that and sure enough when I went I got my phone I walked by [TS]

00:18:13   the Apple store after that and still line wasn't it wasn't huge but there is [TS]

00:18:18   still only thirty people want so bad advice I didn't listen to you guys until [TS]

00:18:25   after he had my phone and you're listening as you walk home as you went [TS]

00:18:34   by the online I just think it depends it depends on what you're looking for when [TS]

00:18:40   you trying to accomplish I was at the the xoxo in Portland last yeah sorry I [TS]

00:18:51   was you know that the jerk who already had a 5s because I had the review unit [TS]

00:18:58   from Apple and I had the gold one you know so I could actually prove that the [TS]

00:19:02   new one so all I did was but I said I did I bought my own personal space great [TS]

00:19:07   but I ordered online because there is no way of getting up and getting into line [TS]

00:19:14   but I ordered right at like midnight 011 my phone said 1200 put down my drink [TS]

00:19:24   open up the Apple Store app which i think is the best way to do it opened up [TS]

00:19:28   the app and it said you want to replace this phone phone I'm using with a new [TS]

00:19:34   one [TS]

00:19:34   here's what I want and click link to more buttons and it said ok orders [TS]

00:19:39   placed it'll be there and one to three days you're you're seeing it knew which [TS]

00:19:43   phone you had yes the Apple when you and I did this I think before too but when [TS]

00:19:50   you order a new iPhone using the Apple Store app on your iPhone it will offer [TS]

00:19:55   you know you want a new phone or do you want to replace this very fun and you [TS]

00:20:00   know gave me my phone number and I said yes I want to replace this phone [TS]

00:20:03   and then the phones that came to see me going to its really AM it's really slick [TS]

00:20:10   the phone comes in and it came Wednesday so that was three days three business [TS]

00:20:15   days [TS]

00:20:16   you open it up and it's already says like this phone is going to replace you [TS]

00:20:21   know really XY period it'll become you know your your phone number will move [TS]

00:20:27   over and you do that and it I guess what they call that process [TS]

00:20:32   activates and then as soon as it does your old phone is no longer has service [TS]

00:20:36   in new phone has your phone number of priests like it's still one day do like [TS]

00:20:42   a tap tap to replace with Apple TV a bump the front doorstep to set it up I [TS]

00:20:54   guess you can do that when you order online on the website too but you just [TS]

00:20:57   have to enter you have to enter like your Verizon account info and it lists [TS]

00:21:01   your phone numbers it's just so much easier especially like if you really [TS]

00:21:05   kinda wanna get it fast and you want to kind of water within a minute or two you [TS]

00:21:09   know it's it's almost like getting WBC tickets you know it's so much it is a [TS]

00:21:14   safe so many steps when you say replace this found somebody else was with us [TS]

00:21:19   where we were ordering them and I forget what happened that she did you know it [TS]

00:21:30   took her an extra couple of minutes and in in the interim like the shipping time [TS]

00:21:34   and she got the same phone that Amy did the gold one and it was like days later [TS]

00:21:38   estimated arrival so I mean they did go fast so it if you use the app and your [TS]

00:21:47   last name is grouper I don't think that you get it super fast I don't think [TS]

00:21:54   that's right to the front of the line [TS]

00:21:59   show her shows up with it helps you make sure your eyeglasses back that you see [TS]

00:22:13   you did the switch had that work how'd that go for him pretty well I'm afraid [TS]

00:22:20   to to see my at&t bill cuz I'm breaking [TS]

00:22:23   I got that bill Lester and breaking contract but but my wife was on we were [TS]

00:22:28   both on AT&T I was on AT&T for like 15 years that's where I was and and we just [TS]

00:22:35   we've never gotten very good reception in the house here and she's running a [TS]

00:22:39   business up her phone so she's like she we try to do we know we tried a [TS]

00:22:45   microcell and kept dropping us off the Microcell filing you know what i mean [TS]

00:22:51   she was getting calls from clients are again they were going to voicemail so so [TS]

00:22:57   she she jumped a few months ago and I so we could keep the same network it went [TS]

00:23:06   pretty well for me as I recall it was sort of a hassle is certainly a lot [TS]

00:23:10   harder than just upgrade yeah I mean I said that stand at the counter for a [TS]

00:23:13   while and 10,000 pieces of information but but it worked [TS]

00:23:20   do you think ordering an in store was the way to go [TS]

00:23:23   well i i just thought since I was switching networks that it would be [TS]

00:23:27   cause I don't I just don't imagine that there are equipped to handle that at the [TS]

00:23:33   Apple Store but I never tried it I don't know if AT&T has something like this now [TS]

00:23:37   too but I know what Verizon we have a pretty pretty nice shared data plan [TS]

00:23:42   yeah where you just pick how many gigabytes you want for the as many [TS]

00:23:46   phones as you have and I even have my iPad on it right and so instead of [TS]

00:23:51   paying separately for the iPad just one collective pool of data and there they [TS]

00:23:58   give you good warnings in advance and as long as you move it up like if you're [TS]

00:24:05   going to go over of 6 gigabytes collectively and you get close you can [TS]

00:24:08   go up to eight [TS]

00:24:09   eight and you don't pay any penalty for that you just pay the pro-rated thing [TS]

00:24:15   and then next month you can take it back down to six or so over the summer like I [TS]

00:24:20   watched a lot of baseball games on the iPad and I did have to move the data but [TS]

00:24:27   I didn't you know it was nice to have that problem shortly [TS]

00:24:34   oh boy i'd something we should get back to that after I should we be yeah I was [TS]

00:24:44   gonna ask you get get the spot to break out before you start sobbing like a [TS]

00:24:53   little kitty [TS]

00:24:55   first sponsor is transporter filed transporter sometimes called transporter [TS]

00:25:02   sometimes they call file transporter but whatever you call it it's a really [TS]

00:25:05   really great device from the people behind robo they've even like gotten [TS]

00:25:11   back together with them they were engineers from Drobo they went off and [TS]

00:25:14   they built this and now the Tropos company has acquired as it right and [TS]

00:25:19   it's it's just such a great service and I can't help but think in hindsight to [TS]

00:25:26   launch this product in 2013 is the most amazing brilliant and I'll get to that [TS]

00:25:32   in a second as what is found transporter think of it more or less as your own [TS]

00:25:36   personal Dropbox date you buy from them a device little tiny cute thing it's a [TS]

00:25:43   network storage then put in your house or office takes one small hard drive you [TS]

00:25:49   can buy from them and will come with a hard drive or you can buy one with no [TS]

00:25:53   hard drive if you're a nerd I know there's a lot of you out there by her [TS]

00:25:56   own hard drive [TS]

00:25:56   put it in and then what do you have your own little personal Dropbox not with the [TS]

00:26:03   cloud there is no place were filed transporter has servers out there that [TS]

00:26:08   store your data your data is on the device that you have in your house on [TS]

00:26:13   your office wherever [TS]

00:26:14   so you can do things like put one of them in your house but one of them in [TS]

00:26:18   your office and have one collective shared pool of stored data backed up in [TS]

00:26:25   both places so if you know roof leaks in your house and and drenches the one the [TS]

00:26:31   one in your office still has your day time all of your devices anywhere you go [TS]

00:26:35   can share it with people you know who have filed transporter accounts which [TS]

00:26:40   are free you can just like with Dropbox or something like that you can share a [TS]

00:26:45   file with them or give them access to a shared folder and why do I say the 2013 [TS]

00:26:51   as it's a great year to launch something like this will you know all the crazy [TS]

00:26:56   NSA snooping and urs government surveillance of of cloud type services [TS]

00:27:01   you know that's a big deal for people in the whole point of it in the outset was [TS]

00:27:06   to keep your data your private data private have your your stuff on your [TS]

00:27:10   device file transporter let you do that and still have access to it like from [TS]

00:27:16   your iPhone anywhere you go but you know where the data is it's really in and [TS]

00:27:23   works great and there there [TS]

00:27:24   2.0 software which just came out like last month it was already good right [TS]

00:27:29   away the one point out but the 2.0 added a whole bunch of features that everybody [TS]

00:27:33   was asking for and so if you look at the 1.0 software but haven't looked at it [TS]

00:27:39   since you really really should take another look at a great great where do [TS]

00:27:46   you go to find out more easy here's what you do you go to File transporter dot [TS]

00:27:51   com slash talk ta el que that alone know you came from the show and it'll set you [TS]

00:28:00   up for a nice discount on whatever model you buy so go to File transporter dot [TS]

00:28:05   com slash talking find out more so I am I wish list [TS]

00:28:11   pretty slick yeah your beloved beverage I knew I think mine goes the opposite [TS]

00:28:22   way when the stimulant depressant charge than yours but yes I do it's five [TS]

00:28:27   o'clock somewhere [TS]

00:28:28   baseball I so I just watched a watch that video so as we reported Friday the [TS]

00:28:39   27th of September and last night at Yankee Stadium was last game that [TS]

00:28:44   Mariano Rivera's gonna play pretty angry at Yankee Stadium and you know yankee [TS]

00:28:52   season really just gone to shit in the last three weeks I mean they were in it [TS]

00:28:56   against all odds with the crazy amount of injuries they've had this year but [TS]

00:28:59   they were really in the hunt and when they really just needed they didn't even [TS]

00:29:03   need to play that great but they've really should the bed and so they're out [TS]

00:29:07   of the playoffs then I mean I think that the last time there was a baseball game [TS]

00:29:13   at Yankee Stadium where the Yankees weren't in playoff contention at least [TS]

00:29:19   was 1993 and that's a helluva run so they're out of it and so really the only [TS]

00:29:26   thing at stake is that two of the great Yankees are retiring this year Mariano [TS]

00:29:30   Rivera and Andy Pettitte and Mariano is the bigger deal and I don't retire [TS]

00:29:37   already once yeah he retired in 2010 after they won the World Series in 2009 [TS]

00:29:43   and then he was gone for a year and then and then missed it came back and it's [TS]

00:29:49   been great I mean a Muslim one of the most remarkable things about the Yankees [TS]

00:29:52   this year they have a lot of pitching brahms but and Andy Pettitte is 41 has [TS]

00:29:57   been especially in the second half of the season by far their most reliable [TS]

00:30:01   pitcher Mariano Rivera is 43 I think he's [TS]

00:30:06   Jamie Moyer's gone he's like literally the oldest guy in Major League Baseball [TS]

00:30:10   and had another fantastic all-star caliber season I mean I mean absolutely [TS]

00:30:18   not like he couldn't play again i mean he's walking away at 43 still literally [TS]

00:30:24   at the top of his game but it was amazing because everybody wanted to see [TS]

00:30:28   him and so even though the Yankees are out of the playoffs which usually means [TS]

00:30:32   that Yankee Stadium to say he's right I mean Yankee fans are only there for one [TS]

00:30:36   thing and one thing only and that's season championships [TS]

00:30:40   it was a sell-out total sell-out really wish I could have been there and it was [TS]

00:30:45   just like a big like an Irish Irish funeral at the end everybody was just [TS]

00:30:50   slow burn crying really kind of amazing and they did they handled it I thought [TS]

00:30:57   they handled it amazingly ya know is very nice even someone who does not [TS]

00:31:02   particularly who is not particularly a Yankee fan it's a nice moment in [TS]

00:31:07   baseball [TS]

00:31:08   anytime a guy it's likely we'll never get that in our careers where we get to [TS]

00:31:12   walk out and wave [TS]

00:31:16   well a lot of people so few even do because you know usually they play until [TS]

00:31:23   their past you know past their expiration date and they know they make [TS]

00:31:28   the decision in the offseason you know and they don't get that what they did [TS]

00:31:32   and improves your baseball fans I apologize but the way that it goes if [TS]

00:31:36   your picture and they gonna make it pitching change and take you out for [TS]

00:31:40   another pitcher in the manager of the team comes out to the mound takes the [TS]

00:31:44   ball from your hand like a symbolic gesture I don't think the rules actually [TS]

00:31:48   stipulate you have to take the ball from him but that's just what it's done it's [TS]

00:31:52   you know manager or any other league you know level the coach comes out takes the [TS]

00:31:57   ball from your hand you leave the mound and then they call him the guys gonna [TS]

00:32:00   replace you and Mariano Rivera as that's closer he's always the last picture he [TS]

00:32:08   comes in and nobody takes the ball from them [TS]

00:32:12   and so when he got to two outs in the ninth the Yankees manager Joe Girardi [TS]

00:32:18   instead of coming out he sent to players a decent Derek Jeter and Andy Pettitte [TS]

00:32:24   out and jeering pettit took the ball from three of them just broke down [TS]

00:32:30   crying actually Jeter was laughin Jeter and as I've never seen anything like [TS]

00:32:38   that before there's no nobody else who you could you know I don't you know who [TS]

00:32:42   could have done that before but it was really just kind of amazing party was [TS]

00:32:48   amazing to his the capture the guy named Jay R Murphy and he's like 22 years old [TS]

00:32:52   so he's a young kid there only really planning to start like a test to see you [TS]

00:32:56   know see what the kids got but at 22 years old that means when he was born [TS]

00:33:00   the day he was born Mariano Rivera was already in the Yankees minor leaks which [TS]

00:33:09   is crazy like this kid by margaret was in the Yankees minor leagues playing [TS]

00:33:14   professional baseball for the Yankee organization on the day the kid was born [TS]

00:33:17   and then he's the guy who got to catch you know various last parents and his [TS]

00:33:22   face if you watch that video [TS]

00:33:24   mercies face he looks like what you think you would look like he just looks [TS]

00:33:29   like oh my god I can't believe that I'm here I was crime I don't think I've [TS]

00:33:37   cried in years I don't think about it I don't know the last time I was here I [TS]

00:33:42   was watching it I was tears coming down my face [TS]

00:33:45   there's a platter [TS]

00:33:50   terrible I'm never going to say well you know there's a certain amino Yankee [TS]

00:33:57   Stadium is the thing that to me is a little ignominious is now the Yankees [TS]

00:34:01   mp3 totally meaningless games which is just doesn't seem right just seems like [TS]

00:34:11   the days but I don't know because they are meaningless and they don't have [TS]

00:34:18   playoff implications that the rumors that mo wants to play center field so [TS]

00:34:23   there might be my plan [TS]

00:34:25   or two in center field down in and some to see ya totally he's will you know how [TS]

00:34:33   he remember when he hurt his knee last year repeatedly for years his whole [TS]

00:34:37   career he likes to shag flies he's an excellent how he gets his work out how [TS]

00:34:42   he stays in shape before every game he's out with the outfielders and always has [TS]

00:34:47   been a whole career catching long running down fly balls and catching up [TS]

00:34:52   and the word is always been that when he was like in the minor leagues that a lot [TS]

00:34:58   of the Yankees scouts that he was one of the best outfield I don't know if he was [TS]

00:35:02   ever a good hitter I don't know if you get hit but defensively that you know [TS]

00:35:05   and athletically he was always considered you know maybe one of the [TS]

00:35:08   best in the whole system and he's always said like nobody can tell if he's joking [TS]

00:35:13   or not that bad for he retires he'd like to play a little center field for the [TS]

00:35:17   Yankees and so you know they have a dad Joe Girardi and he said maybe so well [TS]

00:35:27   why not [TS]

00:35:30   seasons seasons basically over right and you couldn't do that like to see they're [TS]

00:35:36   playing the Tampa Bay Rays last night the Tampa Bay Rays are in the wild-card [TS]

00:35:38   chase so like every game they play means something so even if you are right there [TS]

00:35:50   is also a kid who came in and who do you know who's the guy who replaces MO and [TS]

00:35:55   it was just some no-name kid I kid named daily came in and threw three pitches [TS]

00:36:02   and struck the next guy out and it was like man I don't and I you know I don't [TS]

00:36:06   think it was for nothing Tampa I don't think that the guy purposely struck out [TS]

00:36:11   I you know you know I think that pro baseball players you know everybody was [TS]

00:36:15   there from oh but you try to win [TS]

00:36:17   but and talk about leg nobody really want to see him pitch like you did the [TS]

00:36:23   right thing what's the deal with the Mariners are they really listening still [TS]

00:36:37   we talked about Martha Stewart for a while [TS]

00:36:43   baseball fans Martha Stewart likes baseball I probably would imagine that [TS]

00:36:52   yeah but she likes tequila that's right [TS]

00:36:58   wouldn't have expected that yeah I wanted to kill apparently let me tell [TS]

00:37:05   you about to make that up after that recipe about to get out of jail know [TS]

00:37:09   this is a long time late at night or two thousand or so she's 24 bathtub gin [TS]

00:37:17   after she presents right after Brazil maybe she had like how to make your own [TS]

00:37:26   and make them to kill out of things you can get in a prison [TS]

00:37:38   30 reg what is presently go out of town potatoes I get paid anything that was [TS]

00:37:48   just my wife she I'm sure she knows she's my wife is a private investigator [TS]

00:37:55   she is actually been to prison many times but just like a monopoly just [TS]

00:38:02   visiting area they said that should be like the new hipster thing you know how [TS]

00:38:08   I get a lot of the people are making their own beer Yeah Yeah right you make [TS]

00:38:12   your online presence great is it Jen Jen seems like that'd be hard to make its [TS]

00:38:21   prominent know it was really just some kind of you would probably be putting on [TS]

00:38:26   airs for what that is just some kind of unclassifiable yeah right good sign [TS]

00:38:35   moon change probably even classier too classy but because it seems like [TS]

00:38:40   moonshine it every 1000 my experience watching it be made is watching The [TS]

00:38:45   Dukes of Hazzard frankly it just seemed to me like it requires a pretty [TS]

00:38:49   significant apparatus yeah he's crazy thing with tubes teachers class [TS]

00:38:58   things you know like a science lab right present you need you just need something [TS]

00:39:04   they got like a little tiny sink in there and they have a toilet [TS]

00:39:16   I don't think I'm not sure that's gonna catch on [TS]

00:39:19   we laugh but if you and i got sent to prison together you know we set to work [TS]

00:39:22   out all my god the first thing I did I think I might take it as an opportunity [TS]

00:39:27   did did maybe tryout thing for about a day and I think I think we think we have [TS]

00:39:36   to say anything to each other and we could just look at each other and we'd [TS]

00:39:39   be like right now on nobody goes in the toilet in the south are you in the yard [TS]

00:39:52   without speaking a prison labor let me tell you about our second sponsor mail [TS]

00:40:01   route I was a mail route you could say root password are 0 UT I would say route [TS]

00:40:08   as well to me it's a series of its route 66 I just don't want anybody confused [TS]

00:40:15   about how to spell it but you can pronounce on everyone but its mail route [TS]

00:40:19   and what are they too great [TS]

00:40:22   email service it is for people who don't want to get involved with let's say [TS]

00:40:31   you're on your companies and you don't want to deal with Google or Microsoft [TS]

00:40:34   you want to deal with Google Apps you want to deal with office 365 for [TS]

00:40:40   Microsoft you want to have more control over the service the email service that [TS]

00:40:45   you're offering to your team your group could be for small groups big groups [TS]

00:40:49   whatever they designed tools that make the lives of system admins easier that's [TS]

00:40:56   where they do this the whole point is if you're in charge of email for your [TS]

00:40:59   domain name your company your group these guys want to make your job easier [TS]

00:41:05   all of it while efficiently delivering cleaning out [TS]

00:41:10   totally innovative very innovative and most interesting I'm this is the part [TS]

00:41:15   that appeals to the you know the nerd group out there are people who are going [TS]

00:41:18   to take jobs system is meant to fully customizable so you don't want the great [TS]

00:41:24   listing feature which is sort of an antispam type thing forget it you can [TS]

00:41:28   turn it off [TS]

00:41:29   checkbox you have your say you manage a practice of doctors and they don't want [TS]

00:41:35   to receive email from anybody they own and only want to receive email from like [TS]

00:41:40   a asset address book like let's say of their customers you can do that day [TS]

00:41:45   blacklist anybody who's not in the list that you provide them so you can do [TS]

00:41:48   something like that you want minimum filtering and just forward everything [TS]

00:41:54   you could do that you want them to use their spam expertise to filter the email [TS]

00:41:58   before it goes through you can do that they had a group here is that they may [TS]

00:42:04   have a case study the group that before they signed up for Male round they were [TS]

00:42:08   using 11 mail servers they switch them around email goes through mail route [TS]

00:42:14   first takes about a second or two then it goes on your server after they switch [TS]

00:42:18   them around they dropped from eleven mail servers 23 and two of the three [TS]

00:42:25   they only had on for redundancy because they already have them they could have [TS]

00:42:28   just by sheer traffic alone could have dropped from eleven mail servers 21 it's [TS]

00:42:34   an enormous value and great service and this is all these guys do all these guys [TS]

00:42:38   do is write their name email all they do is specialized in email to great great [TS]

00:42:44   service and I know a whole bunch of people have signed up for it from the [TS]

00:42:47   show and i've i've gonna let him out there like holy shit this thing really [TS]

00:42:50   makes my life easier and what do they do it it's not like hardware software thing [TS]

00:42:56   that you buy or install you signed up for a service you switch your DNS MX [TS]

00:43:00   records 2.2 there's first and then it goes through their service and then it [TS]

00:43:04   goes on New Year's takes about an extra second to deliver mail works for anybody [TS]

00:43:09   from groups have one or two to two hundred thousand [TS]

00:43:12   I made that number up probably works from people I don't know they have a [TS]

00:43:17   great focus on admits they have JSON API eyes so if you're like a developer you [TS]

00:43:24   can automate the management of your email filtering with your own code you [TS]

00:43:28   can write code to do it instead of just going through there's just can't say [TS]

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00:44:11   what else is going on [TS]

00:44:18   touch I D that's pretty good with you know what to say you have you have to [TS]

00:44:28   touch idea so when did that happen it seemed like it blew up in their early [TS]

00:44:34   this week when I and as soon as it started blowing up I was like well now [TS]

00:44:38   we know what the overblown fake scandal the iPhone 5 is gonna mess is going to [TS]

00:44:43   be and then I think the weirdest thing happened it seemed like the internet [TS]

00:44:48   collectively came to its senses yeah I haven't seen anything really outrageous [TS]

00:44:56   about that they clearly seems like everybody's like you can you can do it [TS]

00:45:01   but it's not exactly like everybody's going to be doing it is it interesting [TS]

00:45:07   that you can that you can spoof of fingerprint like what these guys did is [TS]

00:45:12   they print they they like to get 2400 dpi fingerprint skin and then you use [TS]

00:45:19   that to produce like a stack a rubber fake [TS]

00:45:23   fingerprint put it over your own finger and then your finger you know that [TS]

00:45:28   fingerprint I mean it's you know it's not impossible but it's it's kinda [TS]

00:45:34   Mission Impossible II you know it's like a spy movie type that I mean it takes [TS]

00:45:37   expertise [TS]

00:45:39   yeah I'm gonna take some expertise as he adds it's certain maker like I said I [TS]

00:45:44   said make her skills kind of thing it's a crafty crafty and the whole plane is [TS]

00:45:54   still that even with that touch it is still obviously better than what Apple [TS]

00:46:02   said most people just don't use the passcode it all right or it's probably [TS]

00:46:07   still even better than a simple pass code I think it definitely is I mean I [TS]

00:46:13   mean you can argue about that [TS]

00:46:15   about whether it's better than a simple pass code but it's unquestionably better [TS]

00:46:19   than none at all I mean I'm bottom line is you anyway only thing they showed you [TS]

00:46:23   are being attacked by someone who has the expertise to make 2400 dpi fake copy [TS]

00:46:31   of your fingerprint that the sensor can be spoofed why I mean it's interesting [TS]

00:46:37   but I don't think that's surprising you know yeah I don't and I think calling it [TS]

00:46:41   a hack is is totally misleading that CBN that seems like the wrong word but I [TS]

00:46:46   don't know of a better word [TS]

00:46:47   both our fault that you can spoofing with a fake fingerprints high-quality [TS]

00:46:52   fake printer I really don't think you know and I don't think that if I just [TS]

00:46:58   handed over my phone to them right now without having wiped it or anything I [TS]

00:47:05   don't think it's possible to just take a fingerprint from it that would that [TS]

00:47:09   would be of high enough quality I think you'd have to really kind of work to get [TS]

00:47:12   a fingerprint quality and even if I'm wrong you're still talking about experts [TS]

00:47:15   it's not going to be of any help to someone who just deals are finds an [TS]

00:47:19   iPhone I think it depends I think I think there are no I didn't see the [TS]

00:47:30   whole and watch the whole thing but it doesn't seem it seems like the kind of [TS]

00:47:33   thing that you could follow [TS]

00:47:36   and do if you really want to do but well done it doesn't seem like people doesn't [TS]

00:47:42   it seem like the people who steal a phone and much much more interested in [TS]

00:47:45   getting the phone [TS]

00:47:46   yeah so if they're not they're not that interested in getting your data most [TS]

00:47:52   most phone phone thieves are right about the phone and you know let's face it for [TS]

00:47:58   a lot of us it's really just a way to defend against somebody right by which I [TS]

00:48:07   mean there's a whole thing where people if you leave your phone unattended your [TS]

00:48:10   your quote unquote friends will take it and go to your Twitter and then just [TS]

00:48:14   read the word poopin to fake to make it look as though while you were taking a [TS]

00:48:20   poop you and that's that was the example that I used because we've got this [TS]

00:48:24   friend drinking with frequently and I know what is passcode is just cause I've [TS]

00:48:28   seen in type it in so many times and he's got some capacity and turned on so [TS]

00:48:33   many people doing this all the time like a bunch of guys sitting at the bar just [TS]

00:48:40   leave the front of the bar later the bathroom right and I don't do that I [TS]

00:48:45   don't do they want to be on my phone in the bathroom now but I don't do that I [TS]

00:48:54   don't know I feel very uncomfortable in my phone is likely I know those guys [TS]

00:49:00   were trying to get into it [TS]

00:49:03   yeah so I'll be interested to see if anybody it doesn't seem like it's that [TS]

00:49:18   big a deal I do think it's interesting that some of the analysis of it you know [TS]

00:49:25   how secure is it you know are you aside just in terms of his cool feature a lot [TS]

00:49:32   of the people kind of figured out more and more how this works that a lot of it [TS]

00:49:35   really comes down to the fact that Apple is designing its own system on chips now [TS]

00:49:42   right [TS]

00:49:43   like that that was a big change and [TS]

00:49:47   I remember thinking it was a most unusual how much how proud Steve Jobs [TS]

00:49:52   seemed of that first did it with what the A four processor so what would that [TS]

00:49:57   have been for years ago so that the first iPhone 4 right I think that's [TS]

00:50:06   right and you know I remember thinking it was more about Steve Jobs would be an [TS]

00:50:12   old school you know from back in the seventies and eighties when the [TS]

00:50:15   semi-conductor industry was new and and you know that it was made him proud that [TS]

00:50:21   Apple is doing a lot of that now on its own instead of just getting getting [TS]

00:50:25   parts from others but I think part in hindsight our wives body was so proud [TS]

00:50:31   about it is that its enabling them to do features that they couldn't otherwise do [TS]

00:50:36   that it really is part of system-on-a-chip design that there's [TS]

00:50:41   this secure enclave where there's storage that is completely like [TS]

00:50:46   technically inaccessible to the actual regular operating system [TS]

00:50:50   nothing in iOS not even the root process can access it and that's going to be [TS]

00:50:57   it's gonna be hard to copy [TS]

00:50:59   chip design is like a years-long process like I think this is something that they [TS]

00:51:05   started working on you know five years ago maybe longer [TS]

00:51:10   yeah and it may not take five years for other companies are copied but it will [TS]

00:51:14   take years [TS]

00:51:24   you like the tragedy use it until yeah yeah I mean the one of the great things [TS]

00:51:30   about it is that it lets me to turn on the comp turn off its turn off simple [TS]

00:51:38   pass code right now you have a long pass go have a long pass code and I have to [TS]

00:51:47   be required to be unlocked immediately yes yeah totally so I mean so I think [TS]

00:51:52   those two things I think my phones more secure than it was told it and so it'll [TS]

00:51:58   be interesting to see what happens if if somebody and maybe it's not even a [TS]

00:52:03   question of if maybe it's you know we should admit that it's a questionable [TS]

00:52:06   and somebody is going to have their phone unlocked against their will by [TS]

00:52:11   this you know you know and there's a good question about like what law [TS]

00:52:17   enforcement can do like yeah you know that you're something like a password is [TS]

00:52:27   considered like half in the USA the first amendment type thing that you can [TS]

00:52:31   rate you you know they can't say what's the password to your phone you can just [TS]

00:52:34   you know you're allowed to not answer question are you a loud not have them [TS]

00:52:40   physically force your thumb against the sensor added you know people that sort [TS]

00:52:47   of an open question on that [TS]

00:52:48   yeah it's like a key where you can claim a first amendment right to a key around [TS]

00:52:55   a physical healing the key to your car right except in this case it is you're [TS]

00:52:58   you know it's a little different than a key because it's you know your body so i [TS]

00:53:02   dont no question people are concerned about it and then you know and in a lot [TS]

00:53:06   of this comes down to who are you concerned about getting access to hear [TS]

00:53:09   from you know and obviously know this NSA stuff is on people's minds and [TS]

00:53:13   rightly so [TS]

00:53:14   saying that shouldn't be but in terms of protecting you from government agencies [TS]

00:53:20   no touch idea probably is is not gonna stop anything but I you know again [TS]

00:53:27   against your friends or your kids or just somebody who find your phone in the [TS]

00:53:32   back of a cab right [TS]

00:53:35   you lose your phone in a cab such ideas gonna work great [TS]

00:53:39   yeah I use it all the time how many things did you set up with Jose just his [TS]

00:53:52   toes 333 thumbs and then I actually used by women telling you this should say [TS]

00:54:03   this now some is gonna come in the middle of the night off but John you [TS]

00:54:13   forget I'm switching my fingers right now [TS]

00:54:22   rattle but my parents had this book this German book that was trying to teach [TS]

00:54:31   kids manners from the 1800's had no idea how they got this book but we had this [TS]

00:54:37   book liner and growing up and one of the stories when these horrible germans [TS]

00:54:40   stories from the mid 1800's I think it's I think it's pronounced their struggle [TS]

00:54:47   Peter and his mother goes out this is because that's what they did back then [TS]

00:54:51   they just left the kids at home so she goes out to the go grocery shopping and [TS]

00:54:55   whatever she tells the kids don't suck your thumb or just rule peace will come [TS]

00:54:59   get you so because the minute the woman goes out the door and the kids start [TS]

00:55:05   sucking his thumb and this guy bursts into the door and he's got these huge [TS]

00:55:11   Scissorhands and he's snips the kids and the kid is just sitting there crying [TS]

00:55:19   with no thumbs and that's the moral of the story [TS]

00:55:27   unsecured bonds or some crazy crazy man wandering off that was that was midday [TS]

00:55:36   to 1800 parenting pretty good look at you can look that up on the web it's [TS]

00:55:43   that there's a lot of places like point-blank [TS]

00:55:46   exclusive publisher case if you go back a hundred years of it always looks like [TS]

00:55:52   we're pretty terrible to our kids like maybe in 1850 when they were using this [TS]

00:55:56   book to teach kids not to suck their thumbs a hundred years prior to that [TS]

00:56:00   maybe they actually cut off the kids can you believe that we have to actually do [TS]

00:56:05   this to the kids and they're like modern parenting technology that would allow us [TS]

00:56:10   to convey to the children that their times would be right in grandpa's [TS]

00:56:14   actually cut the thumbs off Grampa who grew up then is in the corner and [TS]

00:56:17   missing her like how you see this man with Stephen Elop and in the car so long [TS]

00:56:34   story short in this to me is wise guy who's got two thumbs and $25,000,000 it [TS]

00:56:43   was long rumored by you know especially Nokia fans so when when Nokia hired him [TS]

00:56:50   he came from Microsoft and then shortly after he got there he said ok my [TS]

00:56:54   evaluation is we're screwed on smartphone operating systems are as is [TS]

00:56:59   no good [TS]

00:57:00   the one we've been workin' simeon so good this whatever it was they were not [TS]

00:57:05   going to cut it we're gonna go to Windows seven and so everybody was like [TS]

00:57:08   who hire a guy from Microsoft he comes in and he switches us to Windows Phone [TS]

00:57:12   this seems to me like this guy was a mall maybe his plan is to run okie in [TS]

00:57:18   the ground and then have Microsoft by then it turns out this week that his [TS]

00:57:22   contract was structured such that well just in case Nokia gets cash strapped in [TS]

00:57:30   their business goes down and because their cash-strapped they have to sell [TS]

00:57:34   the company to say there may be their handset business to say Microsoft well [TS]

00:57:40   if that happens we'll give you a twenty-five million dollar bonus [TS]

00:57:44   lo and behold that's exactly what happened and then the top that off I [TS]

00:57:51   guess because it's it's such a true scandal in in [TS]

00:57:55   what Finland Finland has no kids you know rightly so you know that's the [TS]

00:58:01   pride of Finland you know and it's a big big company worldwide but it certainly [TS]

00:58:06   bigger deal in Finland is a scandal over this and so the board apparently went to [TS]

00:58:11   him and asked him what would you give that bonus back and his answers that he [TS]

00:58:17   can't because he's getting a divorce and his wife on it so he's gotten he's [TS]

00:58:31   already gotten the money I guess it's whatever you know either he's gotten it [TS]

00:58:40   or he's legally going to get then there's nothing they can do unless he [TS]

00:58:44   volunteered to turn it down or renegotiate or something [TS]

00:58:48   the thing with the wife is interesting to me on two fronts on a personal level [TS]

00:58:52   the fact that he was willing to publicly throw her under the bus makes it a lot [TS]

00:58:57   less surprising that she wants to divorce him in the first place but the [TS]

00:59:03   second part is I don't blame her at all right she didn't run Nokia into the [TS]

00:59:08   ground as you know his wife she is legally entitled to half the money so [TS]

00:59:14   you know why should she turned it down it's you know to me now Nokia the [TS]

00:59:23   dumbass Nokia boards fault for agreeing to a contract like that it it just seems [TS]

00:59:30   like a crazy thing to put in a contract like you be like if you're hiring a new [TS]

00:59:34   coach of your team and you rewarded losing a record number of games just in [TS]

00:59:39   case we only went n ball games in one of the next three seasons you'll get a [TS]

00:59:44   bonus [TS]

00:59:45   why would you put why would you put a bonus like that and I guess it was [TS]

00:59:49   structured in language that made it seem like a golden parachute right like if [TS]

00:59:54   the handset businesses acquired you know if you the board approved a handset sale [TS]

00:59:59   I get a big bonus [TS]

01:00:01   but you know doesn't that logically seemed like the only way that the [TS]

01:00:05   handset business would get sold is if you do a pretty bad job running it I [TS]

01:00:13   guess the added no I mean maybe the idea is that if you look at it the other way [TS]

01:00:17   and that his composition you did a good job and not run the company into the [TS]

01:00:21   ground as compensation when a lot more I i guess i dont know just certainly yeah [TS]

01:00:29   yeah right i mean you could it leaves a bad taste of some of these packages 25 [TS]

01:00:36   millions not happening and it really does I mean I know it I never thought it [TS]

01:00:43   sounded crazy it's not you know kubrick fake the moon landings crazy it's just [TS]

01:00:49   you know like this kind of a conspiracy the idea that he was a Microsoft more [TS]

01:00:54   from the beginning but you know now that they're actually selling the hinson unit [TS]

01:00:57   to Microsoft it you know it's kinda like well call it conspiracy or what you will [TS]

01:01:01   it happen and it certainly hasn't been good for like Nokia shareholders [TS]

01:01:06   customers now I'm interested know what Nokia the company's gonna do after this [TS]

01:01:16   does that mean they're buying their mobile services right Microsoft is [TS]

01:01:22   buying their mobile services business and Nokia still a company in Finland [TS]

01:01:28   I don't know what they don't know what other businesses there was some [TS]

01:01:31   and I forgot to mention the center somebody like me was nearly Patil said [TS]

01:01:36   somebody mentioned the same comments or something on the verge may not remember [TS]

01:01:41   that Nokia will go on by HTC and then start making Android phones which I [TS]

01:01:51   thought was interesting [TS]

01:01:52   and that shit that really helps them but I don't know when you get back to that [TS]

01:01:59   he gets back that whole question about what they should have done the first [TS]

01:02:01   place [TS]

01:02:04   their chance for a do over four years too late but whatever it was three years [TS]

01:02:12   helen is how long ago was that that he ditched [TS]

01:02:17   three years is pretty fast in the grand scheme of things I mean that caused it [TS]

01:02:22   to be like three others because the iPhone has only been out six years and [TS]

01:02:26   it was you know the whole thing was precipitated by the rise of and Windows [TS]

01:02:32   Phone hasn't been around that one no I think two years so right now I think [TS]

01:02:39   it's think it's been longer than that but three years yeah yeah we think it's [TS]

01:02:42   been three years yeah keep saying it's gonna gonna take over a hundred I can't [TS]

01:02:54   find that one again everyone that went out and that's probably a worse that's [TS]

01:03:00   probably one of the worst clam chowders over because it's so so bad and it but [TS]

01:03:06   it is what they wanted right that you know and it's so directly comparable you [TS]

01:03:11   know that you know some of the Android iPhone comparisons are so tough because [TS]

01:03:15   Android is just an OS that they license to other people to make an iPhone is all [TS]

01:03:19   Apple whereas Windows Phone is a 1000 ask that they license to handset makers [TS]

01:03:24   to make Windows Phone and Android are couldn't be more direct competitors [TS]

01:03:29   right and and what was I forget who is liked by 2014 [TS]

01:03:35   that's because it was by the end of this year is coming up one of those firms had [TS]

01:03:42   speculated that you know and that's even more so you got it [TS]

01:03:47   well it's it's even worse than the infamous clam chowder by Eric Schmidt [TS]

01:03:52   who like a year ago said that by the middle of the next summer [TS]

01:03:55   the TVs sold in america we're gonna have Google TV and that's bad and he was [TS]

01:04:00   wrong i mean nobody even talks about Google TV anymore but at least you know [TS]

01:04:04   then he he's pretty he's trying to push his own company I mean that's that's you [TS]

01:04:08   can call that marketing that's what ya and you are you supposed to do and he [TS]

01:04:12   was this is an analysis is Pyramid Research Analyst Stella bokan said that [TS]

01:04:19   Windows Phone is poised to overtake interests massive market share as soon [TS]

01:04:23   as 2013 and this was this is back in 2011 May of 2011 [TS]

01:04:29   yeah you know known by then with Eric Schmidt he was published was on stage [TS]

01:04:38   being interviewed and you know I think he sort of has a tendency to to run his [TS]

01:04:42   mouth a little bit he was shooting from the hip you know and maybe as soon as he [TS]

01:04:46   said he was like I said that but I'm promoting the game like you said he sees [TS]

01:04:51   a spokesman for the company where is this is supposed to be a measured [TS]

01:04:54   well-considered research report right this is our analysis is why you should [TS]

01:05:01   you should pay our company to provide research for you because we're so good [TS]

01:05:07   you're so smart we understand the market [TS]

01:05:10   yeah and they really have to believe that they think that a lot of these [TS]

01:05:14   companies think that they just need to get their name out there and so they [TS]

01:05:17   need to say something crazy in order to get their name out there but I just died [TS]

01:05:22   can never figure out exactly how they'd reconcile that with looking like idiots [TS]

01:05:29   for saying something that's so obviously not going to happen [TS]

01:05:37   about the third sponsor these guys are great bartender for Mac OS 10 here this [TS]

01:05:43   app great genius idea you know those little icons you have in your menu bar [TS]

01:05:50   owner Mac in the upper right corner all those little inscrutable mostly black [TS]

01:05:54   and white I got minor spilling over into the center I try to keep my mind right [TS]

01:06:00   now and that this is consciously trying to keep a minimum number 123456789 10 12 [TS]

01:06:08   13 I got thirteen of them and that's not even including notifications and no [TS]

01:06:17   that's not counting the ones that you can't turn off notifications spotlight [TS]

01:06:22   what does bartender bartender lets you organize those menu items you can hide [TS]

01:06:29   them you can replace them all with a little dot dot dot and then you just hit [TS]

01:06:34   that and then it shows them too so it reduces the clarity see all the time but [TS]

01:06:39   you can still use all those things cause why do I have thirteen of them because [TS]

01:06:42   every once in a while I really do want he's you know I really do have to go [TS]

01:06:46   into the Dropbox menu or something like that or I do want to open up the text [TS]

01:06:51   expander mania I can have a bartender out of my way you move into the [TS]

01:06:58   bartender bar and then you display them when you want you can rearrange the [TS]

01:07:04   order of them you can rearrange the order of all of those things that really [TS]

01:07:10   great you can even have it you can even do smart things like only have MenuItem [TS]

01:07:14   show when they update like if you have one that you know like some Twitter [TS]

01:07:19   client have one of those little things up there and it'll turn a color when you [TS]

01:07:23   have direct messages or something like that where you can set it with bartender [TS]

01:07:27   so that it only even shows up when it has some kind of notification or an [TS]

01:07:31   update to tell you they've just released version 1.2 it fully Mavericks [TS]

01:07:37   compatible so if in the back of your head wise guys you're thinking hey it's [TS]

01:07:42   a pretty cool trick but maybe we can work with maverick's which is coming out [TS]

01:07:46   really soon well they've already shipped an updated compatible with maverick's [TS]

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01:07:57   download it and you get four week free trial that's super generous and I think [TS]

01:08:02   that just shows the confidence they have in the four weeks are up you're going to [TS]

01:08:05   be like I gotta buy it where do you go to find out more go to their web site [TS]

01:08:09   WWW dot Mac bartender dot com Mac bartender dot com great utility for a [TS]

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01:08:24   crying goodbyes CEO Steve Ballmer I didn't like the big big annual kinda sad [TS]

01:08:34   watching him go out he's really yeah that's not the way you want to go out [TS]

01:08:39   really pretty ugly yeah he's not going out to know she rumor gossip [TS]

01:08:48   ready to the top of his game I read it and Business Insider so lord only knows [TS]

01:08:52   what I was doing on your website so it could be completely false but I saw the [TS]

01:08:56   ad said that while leading candidate to replace him as the guy who's that CEO of [TS]

01:09:00   Ford Ford Motor Company yeah I heard that I don't know anything about the CEO [TS]

01:09:06   the ford motor company but I will tell you it does not sound to me like he [TS]

01:09:09   should be running Microsoft it doesn't sound to me like like that's going [TS]

01:09:13   against Kelly yeah you know I mean yeah it does not as a it doesn't seem to any [TS]

01:09:25   90 Ford is not like going under and I know that during the whole fiscal crisis [TS]

01:09:31   that of the big three USA auto makers they were in far better shape you know [TS]

01:09:34   didn't need a bailout like GMT [TS]

01:09:36   ever and you know good for them but nobody really can do things wow ford's [TS]

01:09:43   really you know dominating the world of cars right so I don't know about that [TS]

01:09:51   and the CEO knows how to rescue a software company [TS]

01:09:57   yeah and I feel like if there's any kind of lesson I mean I don't know I still [TS]

01:10:03   think that big part of the problem with bombers CEO is that the guy just never [TS]

01:10:08   really got it and I'm not saying you have to be Bill Gates who was literally [TS]

01:10:13   a great programmer you don't have to be a programmer to run Microsoft you know [TS]

01:10:19   in the same way that you don't have to be an industrial designer to run Apple [TS]

01:10:24   rate Tim Cook is not a designer but I do feel that Tim Cook fundamentally when [TS]

01:10:29   you listen to him he understands what it is that Apple is supposed to be doing [TS]

01:10:34   and I don't think bomber ever really got that with Microsoft at least in the [TS]

01:10:38   consumer space I think bombers understanding of what why how and why [TS]

01:10:44   Microsoft as successful with entirely revolved around the franchise's he had [TS]

01:10:49   inherited in and around the enterprise market which could be you know could be [TS]

01:10:54   lucrative maybe long term that's the route that Microsoft goes but I think [TS]

01:10:58   the reason he's being shown the door is because of their failures in the [TS]

01:11:01   consumer space [TS]

01:11:03   yeah man I think there's any question about that and it wasn't for the company [TS]

01:11:10   that made a pretty big push into the Microsoft designed software interface to [TS]

01:11:15   their cars and it was to you know shocking and horrible [TS]

01:11:20   that sounds familiar but amateur [TS]

01:11:26   I just it seems like the kind of thing where you would hope that something they [TS]

01:11:30   have somebody inside that they could promote we have those kind of what I [TS]

01:11:35   thought but I don't know but then I did but I don't know anything about their [TS]

01:11:40   bench yeah and the other thing to me is if that's the route they were gonna go I [TS]

01:11:43   would've thought I would think that maybe it wouldn't be we're gonna have a [TS]

01:11:47   year-long transition they would have said yeah done that quietly on the side [TS]

01:11:53   of the old switcheroo and I know that it's different circumstances then was [TS]

01:11:58   with Steve Jobs because you know we now know in hindsight that you know that [TS]

01:12:02   that transition was he you know he was at the end of the rope health wise he [TS]

01:12:07   was dying or at least failing but you know it is though like in terms of like [TS]

01:12:15   a step-by-step process it how you do it you know you announce something but you [TS]

01:12:20   say and here's the guy you know who's coming up just seems I don't think [TS]

01:12:26   they're gonna I don't think they're going to hire someone from inside yeah [TS]

01:12:30   it doesn't look like it which I just think it seems like a terrible i cant [TS]

01:12:35   really I cannot think of it [TS]

01:12:36   an instance where that's worked really well I don't know maybe I'm sure it [TS]

01:12:42   happens all the time but maybe that's just a feeling of my opinion I am to [TS]

01:12:50   that kind of thing but we think in the software industry would technology [TS]

01:12:56   refers something like that but it's just that companies in Nassau in the computer [TS]

01:13:01   industry are to me so distinctive like the ones that get big and successful [TS]

01:13:08   like Microsoft is nothing like Google and [TS]

01:13:11   neither one of them is anything like Apple and there none of those companies [TS]

01:13:15   are anything like Facebook [TS]

01:13:17   you know and I just feel like it's you know they have such strong personalities [TS]

01:13:24   you know what it is that makes it successful microsoft product Microsoft [TS]

01:13:27   product is it feel to it you know it it permeates everything they do both the [TS]

01:13:32   design and Brandon just even what it's meant to do and I feel like I dunno [TS]

01:13:38   bringing in the guy from forward I just don't doesn't seem like it's gonna help [TS]

01:13:42   them at all [TS]

01:13:50   coming out of the gold life I've told that galaxy got anything on that and now [TS]

01:13:57   it's just a matter of time and they went with the real gold gold that's the one [TS]

01:14:04   that I didn't even know what joke to crash and its plastic [TS]

01:14:09   of course is that was one of them i think is one of the hard things and I [TS]

01:14:13   think it you know it's pretty hard to pull off a plastic [TS]

01:14:16   think you just don't want to go there but you know like when you first heard [TS]

01:14:24   the rumors in early August or whatever it was that it seemed like Apple might [TS]

01:14:29   be the new 5s was gonna come and gold and everybody was a sound good let you [TS]

01:14:36   know it sounded terrible at first as you suck the air between your teeth and [TS]

01:14:40   thought and cringed a little and crinkle your eyes and worried that color of gold [TS]

01:14:47   that you had in your mind that Samsung is going on [TS]

01:14:52   now supposedly they had a gold phone prior to this but it was a flip phone [TS]

01:14:57   course they did I love the people who defend them so they got their first but [TS]

01:15:03   the all-important called foot from work I do think that it's an interesting way [TS]

01:15:15   going to go let you know I don't think is the only reason he went to the Apple [TS]

01:15:19   made this cold iPhone because it looks good in a lot of people really like and [TS]

01:15:23   I think people you know it's an interesting way to keep that same [TS]

01:15:26   hardware designed for two years as they've done you know for six years in a [TS]

01:15:32   row and have something that compatible with all the existing cases etc and yet [TS]

01:15:37   to make it look really know but I can't help but think though that the fact that [TS]

01:15:42   they make doggone out of medal you know is making gold is an interesting way to [TS]

01:15:48   differentiate it from Samsung's plastic yes you know to keep the the 5s as a top [TS]

01:15:57   tier that the that the other phones you know both from competitors and even with [TS]

01:16:02   the five see from Apple itself that their you know their shelf below right I [TS]

01:16:11   was getting all this time I was going to go with the white if they have they had [TS]

01:16:15   kept the same color scheme I was actually gonna get my first white iPhone [TS]

01:16:20   as I think I actually think the white iPhone 5 looks better than the black one [TS]

01:16:24   but you want to see my wife my wife ended up getting away at five and UN [TS]

01:16:30   space does but I got spacecraft that's something improves the banding around it [TS]

01:16:38   is nice yeah it's definitely it's definitely better than the black sure ya [TS]

01:16:43   do you agree like what I said last week it was down by four get from stealing [TS]

01:16:47   this or if I came up with it but my show so it's ok you agree that's reminiscent [TS]

01:16:53   of the original iPhone it's a darker it's a little darker than the medellin I [TS]

01:16:58   think it's think it's [TS]

01:17:00   little bit yeah it's a little bit I didn't really think about that but I [TS]

01:17:08   would say it's almost like I could see them switching to make like Mac box in [TS]

01:17:17   this car [TS]

01:17:18   yeah it's been a long time since they've changed the color of MacBooks you know [TS]

01:17:23   right I mean I had amassed I don't they would throw the the Ultrabook business [TS]

01:17:33   into exactly but I feel like you know I don't think Apple worries itself too [TS]

01:17:38   much about other companies copying their designs I mean I'm sure it's annoying [TS]

01:17:41   but at the same time it's gotta be flattering because everybody knows I [TS]

01:17:44   want all these other things come out that looks so much like MacBooks that [TS]

01:17:47   it's you know it's just emphasizes how is the market leader but at a certain [TS]

01:17:51   point I feel like they're gonna wanna do something they can't do this this same [TS]

01:17:56   color for ever and I feel like the spacecraft would totally work even if it [TS]

01:18:03   was only for the MacBook Pro or something like that that would be back [TS]

01:18:08   to the back to the Black MacBook extra $50 for spacecraft hey what did they [TS]

01:18:16   charge extra for that [TS]

01:18:18   yeah yeah I got that too I got that I didn't I switched from a PowerBook was [TS]

01:18:27   it called the Magnitsky was it still the I was known as the MacBook and and laced [TS]

01:18:33   with a black when they were plastic and they came out with a black one and it [TS]

01:18:37   did look better I thought and they charge you extra 50 bucks yea yea I [TS]

01:18:41   wouldn't I wasn't going to get the light one I just couldn't bring myself to get [TS]

01:18:45   the white one but I switch from a PowerBook to that and it wasn't I wasn't [TS]

01:18:49   happy with the plastic wasn't I mean it is much better when they switch to [TS]

01:18:54   unibody plastic but the teams were going I think that the one of those cases [TS]

01:19:00   where that's that's why some people hate Apple [TS]

01:19:03   differ the color it is pretty bad is exactly it is right it's right [TS]

01:19:13   teed up perfectly for that is what makes people go crazy about absolutely insane [TS]

01:19:23   crazy they didn't charge extra for gold now now I think that they've kind of a [TS]

01:19:30   result some people were speculating about that before you know it came out [TS]

01:19:34   it's really hard to get ice I mean I think it's nonsense i cant im gonna link [TS]

01:19:38   to it but I saw a story that somebody said that somebody sold a gold iPhone on [TS]

01:19:42   eBay for $10,000 oh yeah yeah I mean that's crazy I mean you know I can see [TS]

01:19:47   selling it for double the price to some moron who really has to just can't wait [TS]

01:19:52   to get their hands on it but not $10,000 I can't be true it has to be fake but I [TS]

01:19:58   don't know I read on the internet I would maybe I mean people bought that I [TS]

01:20:03   am rich up there with the most that Apple could have gotten away charging [TS]

01:20:19   for the gold iPhone is speculate imagine if they did they charge like five grand [TS]

01:20:30   for it all is gold anodized comes to go yeah she be real gold in with the [TS]

01:20:40   reception would be like that yeah be heavy to certainly made for some some [TS]

01:20:48   great headlines to buy it when those were some of those Vertu phones are [TS]

01:20:57   still vote Tuesday around the company that sells like $5000 [TS]

01:21:01   other cell phones and they've they've switched to Android finally they [TS]

01:21:07   recently like Symbian like somebody took one apart and and it really literally [TS]

01:21:12   was like inside like the leather and jewel embellished case it was like a $40 [TS]

01:21:18   Nokia Symbian somebody that's what they're saying that some people claim [TS]

01:21:27   iPhones yesterday claimed but you know her $200 to make and they say that it's [TS]

01:21:34   it's like a concierge service does a button you can hit you know talk to it [TS]

01:21:39   if you have a ver too funny of a button and you can get like a ver 2 concierge [TS]

01:21:43   and say hey I'm in Seattle tonight I want to get a dinner reservation that [TS]

01:21:49   like a good run and then somehow they take care of it I don't know but it [TS]

01:21:56   seems to me like you know there are other ways to get somebody to make a [TS]

01:22:00   hotel reservation restaurant reservation for you then to buy a $4,000 you can get [TS]

01:22:06   a free get the 101 table for free [TS]

01:22:12   yeah it does you know there's a better way so yeah and I still have to send it [TS]

01:22:24   back again December my review now they give you a full review unit and I you [TS]

01:22:33   know what people laugh about that I was lots of treats like that they'll [TS]

01:22:36   everybody was you know loved it I don't think it it's not a jokey joke pink it's [TS]

01:22:43   not like no it's really not know it's not a little girls are really isn't I [TS]

01:22:49   mean I could see you know that there would be no pink but it's not it's not [TS]

01:22:56   as ridiculous as it yeah it's it's it's more like a salmon heroes yeah something [TS]

01:23:02   like that it's not exist not pink pink yeah that's the other question whether [TS]

01:23:07   you know again [TS]

01:23:08   Apple's never going to tell us but we're gonna have to like eyeball it [TS]

01:23:12   know as we just observe people but I'm curious to see which colors or are the [TS]

01:23:16   most popular how the hell they're distributed the Greens pretty cool I [TS]

01:23:20   would say I would have suspected the blue but I think the Greens gonna be [TS]

01:23:25   popular released it really stands out and I don't know if it's just a [TS]

01:23:31   coincidence or not but a lot of the ads I've seen so far are the green yeah so I [TS]

01:23:39   don't know and I think I remember which ones were the ones that sold out yellow [TS]

01:23:48   card do lol yeah but who knows maybe it was one of them but you have no way of [TS]

01:23:54   knowing whether it's because they made the same number of all in the first or [TS]

01:23:58   if Apple thought about this yellow we're gonna make fewer of them and then they [TS]

01:24:03   saw so you don't know I mean Apple blackberry reported there you know it's [TS]

01:24:17   not good when it's going to happen with them [TS]

01:24:19   mister some crazy guy is going to buy the company apparently yeah which is [TS]

01:24:25   just taking it as they're taking a breather taking private I guess I just [TS]

01:24:33   feel like you know come down off the bike week long bender is on and wakes up [TS]

01:24:41   he's going to go I did what I bought one and there was a rumor that what's his [TS]

01:24:47   name was trying to buy it was already asserted yeah sorry this has redesigned [TS]

01:24:53   I like my joke you know that his pitch his pitch to investors is the other guy [TS]

01:25:03   was the problem [TS]

01:25:07   where did they go where they go I don't know it seems like it seems like the [TS]

01:25:20   point where they should have like like like where Nokia is now Nokia is like [TS]

01:25:24   that they still have their pride they they may be could still stand alone but [TS]

01:25:28   they're selling now like the time for grammar blackberry was like two or three [TS]

01:25:32   years ago they need to decide the company like two years ago and now it's [TS]

01:25:39   like nobody ran don't think anybody knows what to do with them before they [TS]

01:25:42   did that whole thing with the PlayBook yeah there's themselves but the new [TS]

01:25:50   Kindles [TS]

01:25:52   should really look into that that much other than hearing about the May Day [TS]

01:25:57   service yeah they look good [TS]

01:26:00   it's kind of a weird thing I like where they didn't do an event but they are you [TS]

01:26:05   know they had some like that big a deal [TS]

01:26:07   yeah and they had some you know but they did have some embargoed reviewers in a [TS]

01:26:11   date in a couple of interviews conducted in advance but then they had the embargo [TS]

01:26:16   lifts at midnight Pacific or midnight eastern but either way kind of a weird [TS]

01:26:21   time to lift the embargo like a lot of people are in bed and just seems weird I [TS]

01:26:27   guess the strategy is then people wake up in the morning and it still at the [TS]

01:26:30   top of the news because nothing else happened overnight but just seemed a [TS]

01:26:34   little weird they look good but I don't know it I don't know you know I don't [TS]

01:26:42   see many you know they've been out for a while I don't see very many candle fires [TS]

01:26:46   out there in a while and once I do see tend to be the this you know the small [TS]

01:26:52   one the one that people I think people thought like my guess is that they are [TS]

01:26:58   you know pretty much but just to have a Kindle e-book reader that's in color [TS]

01:27:03   right which is a totally credible product even though my disparaging it [TS]

01:27:08   but it you know the ones I've seen over the years tended to be the small one [TS]

01:27:13   and its people on airplanes using them to read books I assume that their books [TS]

01:27:18   who knows what they're reading we see we see more out here we talked about this [TS]

01:27:28   once before but he's to keep you up to Seattle it's a lot of money train you [TS]

01:27:36   see more windows Tampa some of those people were were I've seen a few not a [TS]

01:27:47   lot I sold are definitely see more deadly see more candles and it went on [TS]

01:27:58   the train when I was commuting that it was I would see a fair number of them [TS]

01:28:01   but I mean like I said some of those people were probably going to Amazon I I [TS]

01:28:07   saw somebody at the airport was coming home from Portland last week who was [TS]

01:28:10   right out of a Windows commercial and Windows tablet commercials she was using [TS]

01:28:14   hers on her lap at the airport with the keyboard and typing away at a pace where [TS]

01:28:21   I have to admit I could never achieve on an iPad personally know you know would [TS]

01:28:28   seem to me like you know maybe she bought the right time I don't know why I [TS]

01:28:31   hadn't seen that I don't see it almost seems like the announcements are [TS]

01:28:39   half-hearted I got my saying that you know Kindle windows have given up on you [TS]

01:28:46   know competing against the iPad but it you know the Kindle one this week you no [TS]

01:28:51   no no event came at midnight you know hasn't made a big splash when Microsoft [TS]

01:28:57   had a next gen surface announcement soon I did I was half asleep up there now [TS]

01:29:08   given up we're doing another one we know you're not going to buy it [TS]

01:29:12   Iran and Iraq I mean it's got to be a hard thing to do but spend all year [TS]

01:29:24   making this thing that we know we really kinda know people are going to buy a [TS]

01:29:28   switch the ads ads are now more products centric they got rid of the dancing [TS]

01:29:35   which is definitely an improvement they're still not great ads but there [TS]

01:29:39   but they're much better than the ones they had originally gonna spend on I saw [TS]

01:29:52   that there was a story billion dollars there was a story that Motorola was [TS]

01:29:58   gonna spend five hundred million dollars [TS]

01:29:58   gonna spend five hundred million dollars [TS]

01:30:00   there's an ad campaign for the Moto acts which is a lot of money and I think they [TS]

01:30:04   said that Apple's budget the us-flagged billion a year or something like that [TS]

01:30:09   but it's you know 500 million is roughly in the ballpark you know it's not [TS]

01:30:14   samsung monte Samsung spent like 10 11 billion dollars a year on advertising [TS]

01:30:19   but it'll be interesting to see how that goes I can't remember the last time I [TS]

01:30:26   saw a Motorola campaign they seem to have given up yeah I haven't seen any of [TS]

01:30:32   their hero everyone I know the radio anymore but it was well my wife listen [TS]

01:30:36   to the radio and I frequently hear a Samsung in there although they spend the [TS]

01:30:43   most time in there they spend up at like 10 1 like I think horace that he was the [TS]

01:30:47   first guy the kind of point that out and that it's you know you know arguably you [TS]

01:30:52   know nobody ever in this famously nobody ever really knows how to measure the [TS]

01:30:56   effectiveness of advertising but it you know it does seem know that there [TS]

01:31:03   they've they've spent so much money on advertising that competitors like HTC [TS]

01:31:08   have they can't keep up because HTC can't spend that kind of money they [TS]

01:31:13   don't have it right i dont have it and and they may also run think they run the [TS]

01:31:18   gamut of outlets to seems like you have TV ads they've got stuff in the [TS]

01:31:24   newspaper that good stuff and that on the radio [TS]

01:31:28   whereas Apple just does I guess they do magazine ads to certainly does maybe [TS]

01:31:34   i've seen maybe I've seen one in the newspaper from it like a big New York [TS]

01:31:39   Times but anything they don't they don't do radio the May Day thing I guess [TS]

01:31:49   that's the most interesting thing of all the other tablets has announced this [TS]

01:31:52   week this feature we're all in all your new Kindle tablets come with a one [TS]

01:31:56   button feature you hit it [TS]

01:31:57   and their goal is that within 15 seconds or less [TS]

01:32:01   you get a video chat with a customer support rep and you can see them and [TS]

01:32:07   hear them and they can hear you but they don't see all they see is your screen [TS]

01:32:12   and then they can like draw on your screen to show you how to do stuff or [TS]

01:32:16   they can remotely take control it sounds fantastic for people who are nervous [TS]

01:32:25   about technology I just it doesn't sound to me like something that can scale [TS]

01:32:29   given the way that no matter what company I call for support if it's just [TS]

01:32:37   a good old fashioned phone call I can't get on the phone with somebody sooner [TS]

01:32:40   than three minutes [TS]

01:32:41   China yeah it is to me a typical Jeff Bezos feature where it is it does sound [TS]

01:32:49   crazy and it is about making customers happy which I have to say is you know [TS]

01:32:56   certainly one of the you know the best things about Amazon is a company say [TS]

01:32:59   what you want about their you know pricing and stuff like that in that what [TS]

01:33:03   they do to markets that they enter but you know in terms of you know that they [TS]

01:33:07   want their customers to be happy that's always been the case but like for [TS]

01:33:14   example I don't think Apple ID I don't even think even if Apple one of the [TS]

01:33:17   deepest far into its cash reserves as possible I don't know that they could be [TS]

01:33:21   technically offer that creature for the iPad right they just sell too many men [TS]

01:33:28   where where would you even find enough people people to answer the phone [TS]

01:33:32   yeah I was just thinking about was wondering if those people who are those [TS]

01:33:36   people are around here or I'd heard said read some stories about some of the [TS]

01:33:45   support stuff that a lot of these companies that shipped overseas years [TS]

01:33:49   ago coming back because the economy was gonna the point where so bad here that [TS]

01:33:54   they can afford to bring some of the back but I don't know what I mean I [TS]

01:34:02   still think that was a relatively small percentage of my wife she she had a [TS]

01:34:06   problem with she's got a fax printer copier machine [TS]

01:34:11   thing and she had a problem with it and she called to get technical support in [TS]

01:34:15   that and it was that went to India so I still think that a lot of the percentage [TS]

01:34:22   that one that came back from what one over is not that great a problem with my [TS]

01:34:27   cable TV from the wonderful Comcast company this week where did we just [TS]

01:34:33   stopped getting anything other than like three channels like the local ABC NBC [TS]

01:34:39   CBS affiliates and you know we're supposed to get laid under channels and [TS]

01:34:44   so I had called them and as a perfect example I mean it was like you know it [TS]

01:34:49   wasn't a horrible experience but it I was on the phone for 15 minutes all told [TS]

01:34:53   I mean it was at least three or four minutes before I got through the [TS]

01:34:55   automated part where I had the answer stupid questions and then finally get [TS]

01:34:59   connected to a person and i got connected to a person pretty sure she [TS]

01:35:03   was not in the united states and she was very nice but she was you know a little [TS]

01:35:07   bit of a communication problem [TS]

01:35:09   terms of understand accents I think she's very nice and you know you know i [TS]

01:35:18   i dont have been awhile since I called Comcast for any reason but she didn't [TS]

01:35:22   ask what she says she was ok if I call you by your first name sir [TS]

01:35:26   sure just that but she admits she was over bend over backwards to be nice but [TS]

01:35:32   apparently all seated do is like hit a button and quote send a signal to to our [TS]

01:35:37   cable cards in the back of our TV and then they just suddenly worked again it [TS]

01:35:42   did not seem like it should have been on the phone 1520 minutes it was very long [TS]

01:35:48   time for something that she said I'm sending the signal now can you get these [TS]

01:35:53   channels and you know after she said those words that I started getting those [TS]

01:35:58   channels it was instantaneous but I don't know why it took so long before [TS]

01:36:01   she decided to send the signal or why they just don't send that signal all the [TS]

01:36:06   time right now said that all the time just keep sending the signal [TS]

01:36:14   that's a premium service that's well I and i should say I'm not naive I [TS]

01:36:19   understand why it takes so long it's because you know it's very cost so much [TS]

01:36:23   less to hire people in other countries like say India and you know only hire [TS]

01:36:29   few of them and you make it harder to actually get one on the phone and do all [TS]

01:36:35   these things but I i'm saying you know just seems like if you're really [TS]

01:36:39   interested in customer service said something more like made it I'm kind of [TS]

01:36:44   surprised that both AT&T and Verizon least in my experience use domestic call [TS]

01:36:50   centres is it seems like they would have to employ a lot of people yeah seems [TS]

01:36:57   like you've got so many people across the country on both of those networks I [TS]

01:37:02   don't every time every time I talk to somebody call 3 o'clock in the morning [TS]

01:37:06   maybe that's what they do is it possible that their union like somehow and [TS]

01:37:12   heritage in somehow inherited from the old Bell a good question I saw any [TS]

01:37:22   reducing the thing I was double what if the iPhone were stand-alone business how [TS]

01:37:27   big would it be you'd be like the 17th biggest company in the fortune 500 [TS]

01:37:31   I thought it was interesting that in that list like still in the top ten you [TS]

01:37:35   know by revenue both AT&T and Verizon and I know that Verizon is not just [TS]

01:37:41   Verizon Wireless and in fact the Verizon Wireless which is what all of us think [TS]

01:37:46   of anything brian is I co-owned between Verizon and t-mobile Europe and that [TS]

01:37:51   Verizon is buying the other half of it out from t-mobile 420 billion dollars to [TS]

01:37:58   you that's right but still fundamentally the you know they're they're two halves [TS]

01:38:04   of the same funk what was once when we were kids the same phone company imagine [TS]

01:38:08   and if they hadn't been broken up how be you know how AT&T would be [TS]

01:38:15   very least it's interesting to me that they got split up and then a bunch of [TS]

01:38:21   parts and then somehow like that liquid metal terminator they all came back [TS]

01:38:28   together and they still haven't combined into one and you know that would never [TS]

01:38:32   get approved an AT&T Verizon merger would never get approved now because [TS]

01:38:39   didn't mean the AT&T tried to buy was it sprint or t-mobile t-mobile AT&T tried [TS]

01:38:45   to buy one of them in and shot and even that got shot down there's no chance but [TS]

01:38:51   you you know that they kinda want to that there there are yeah they're only [TS]

01:38:56   reason they're only being held in part by federal regulators it's it's exactly [TS]

01:39:02   as I do ha parts of the Terminator that just desperately want to read it all [TS]

01:39:07   they can think of is all my god if we could combine imagine how much would you [TS]

01:39:10   charge people per month for their cell phones I think my bill went down I am [TS]

01:39:20   still going away for the first payment come through but it sounded it seems [TS]

01:39:25   like from what they were saying the best I can't wait to get it you know when you [TS]

01:39:29   get your your final bill from AT&T shot that's not gonna be did you know I [TS]

01:39:35   remember last year was last year when I switch to Verizon and it was it took a [TS]

01:39:39   while it was like five weeks later so I kind of forgot about it and I kinda done [TS]

01:39:43   the math made news no expensive midday I guess the mail came i hearing me [TS]

01:39:47   downstairs John and I was it was it was it is in terms of what a corporation can [TS]

01:40:05   do to you and i know i guess you know I shouldn't complain I knew that I had a [TS]

01:40:08   two-year contract and whatever but it is effectively like like a legal way for [TS]

01:40:14   AT&T when you break off your relationship with them to just mail you [TS]

01:40:18   a box and feces here is a massive bill for services [TS]

01:40:26   you haven't used 45 you've already been done it's it's really is awful [TS]

01:40:35   you can't buy a knock-on not enough country you can't terminally for you can [TS]

01:40:42   just pay a trade for a verizon phone can you know you can do that on AT&T though [TS]

01:40:48   I think so yes [TS]

01:40:51   yeah which is weird and our way or the other one doesn't i think is Verizon [TS]

01:40:58   this is like a little bit less nickel and dime me but a little bit more [TS]

01:41:02   control yeah and it's the same way that they say they don't use SIM cards I mean [TS]

01:41:08   they do for it but it's only for international roaming that you don't [TS]

01:41:11   have a sim card you know it's like somehow you're you're identifier is [TS]

01:41:16   built into the phone hardware and I don't think that the reason they stick [TS]

01:41:21   with that is it gives them more control over the devices but I ran down my list [TS]

01:41:30   for now I think we were the only thing was the IOC I was 7 motion sickness but [TS]

01:41:39   well that's going to do that it's going to close the show make people sick I [TS]

01:41:46   think that's pretty interesting so the idea here is that the there's a lot of [TS]

01:41:50   people who now that they've upgraded to iOS 7 you know that the extra motion [TS]

01:41:54   zooming in and out the parallax is making some people who are susceptible [TS]

01:42:01   to motion sickness it's triggering it and they're they're feeling nauseous and [TS]

01:42:07   I've gotten I've done that sort of fake you know there's that Star Wars ride on [TS]

01:42:12   of this will have their star was right at disney world where you go into a box [TS]

01:42:16   and they basically just shake the box around us are similarly simulate flying [TS]

01:42:20   around and explain or something like that that made me sick because you're [TS]

01:42:25   not really fly obviously it's not like I can do a roller coaster no problem is [TS]

01:42:30   you're really moving but that thing actually thought I was gonna yeah I have [TS]

01:42:36   said don't have that [TS]

01:42:38   it seems to me like I think I i sympathize with everybody's affected and [TS]

01:42:45   I and I i've seen a lot of stuff online I mean you read the comments and take [TS]

01:42:49   those people who you know obviously are clearly not affected by this [TS]

01:42:55   who their response when people you know to some of these articles is in these [TS]

01:42:58   people should buy a different phone now that's that's pretty you're not really [TS]

01:43:03   thinking this through this is this is a fixable problem the answer nobody is [TS]

01:43:08   asking for Apple to take all these if you like them and I like a lot of them [TS]

01:43:12   if you you know like these cool effects and transitions are not saying that they [TS]

01:43:15   should take them out they just want a way to turn them off right you know and [TS]

01:43:20   Apple already has some of that you can turn off the parallax but there's some [TS]

01:43:23   of the zooming effects like when you go back to the home screen from a nap and [TS]

01:43:28   icons flyin' you know people want that right to do so I i would cause I love [TS]

01:43:36   the iPhone app on the iPhone all the time it would be if I would feel like [TS]

01:43:40   Alex and clockwork orange if using my iPhone made me nauseated and my [TS]

01:43:45   compelled to do this thing that makes me want to throw up [TS]

01:43:50   beethoven playing around like i cant stop checking Twitter in my email on my [TS]

01:43:55   phone but now I keep ranching and maybe better it may make it better on iphone 4 [TS]

01:44:05   to cause it's a little difficult under 45 heard mixed comments from Mike my [TS]

01:44:12   readers and it's it's it is a very fun way like having big readership I during [TS]

01:44:17   fire-bombed people in not having comments and people just email me a fun [TS]

01:44:20   way to destroy to get a survey like I've got an email from people who are like [TS]

01:44:24   you know i upgraded on my four and I can't believe I was really worried about [TS]

01:44:30   it cause I saw these people say it was going to be slow I think it's great and [TS]

01:44:33   then I got emails and other people like wow I upgraded to seven on my for [TS]

01:44:37   and really regret it yeah I mean I probably would do it just to get the [TS]

01:44:44   extra features I got an old doubles the first thing that I tested it on was [TS]

01:44:49   called for in that they went to her for failing five but it's at some of it I [TS]

01:44:58   think it takes well booed up to what about on the iPad you have an iPad I [TS]

01:45:06   just put it on the iPad last night I got a third-generation iPad and when I first [TS]

01:45:12   created to it was like oh my god I should not have done this but it's [TS]

01:45:18   gotten it actually seems to have stabilized I'm not sure exactly what was [TS]

01:45:22   going on in the background but it seems to be better and I really like the [TS]

01:45:25   parallax on a bigger screen [TS]

01:45:27   yes much more know it's much more noticeable that's more fun I think it's [TS]

01:45:33   one of those stupid like anything that doesn't really give you a lot but I [TS]

01:45:41   think it's pretty cool yeah I I'm in the middle of the road on it I'd stick with [TS]

01:45:45   what I thought a month ago which was that I thought that you know all summer [TS]

01:45:50   long using the beta is that on the iPad it was about a month behind the iPhone [TS]

01:45:55   when the iPhone got to a certain point quality about a month later I was seven [TS]

01:46:00   on the iPad reach that point and so I expected that they were gonna release it [TS]

01:46:04   just for the iPhone at first to coincide with the new iPhone event two weeks ago [TS]

01:46:08   and then in a month later next month October when they do the iPad then [TS]

01:46:13   they'll release iOS 7 fry pan and I you know my saying should is maybe a strong [TS]

01:46:19   word but I still think if they had done that it would probably would be in [TS]

01:46:21   better shape and I would be surprised at all if 18 new iPads come in a couple of [TS]

01:46:27   weeks that it were up to like let's I don't know if it's going to be 7.1 or [TS]

01:46:31   just seven point zero point for something but some some update that [TS]

01:46:35   isn't even out yet where it's you know smooth down as I noticed some things [TS]

01:46:40   like where I'm switching just between male and Safari because I'm reading [TS]

01:46:44   messages where I have linked links and I'm opening [TS]

01:46:47   in Safari or sometimes it's real smooth and then sometimes when I switch it is [TS]

01:46:51   like 3 45 seconds before the other app loads and I can't even hit you know even [TS]

01:46:57   hitting the home button its whatever is going on there behind the scenes the [TS]

01:47:00   whole system is is jammed up and I don't think I tried to switch the background [TS]

01:47:06   wallpaper and I just like wasn't getting any response whatsoever [TS]

01:47:11   only switched it and it seemed like ya David Bernard I saw posted a vine and [TS]

01:47:21   wine at 6th limited to six seconds [TS]

01:47:24   think so yeah so you have a limit of six seconds and the time it takes to change [TS]

01:47:29   wallpaper was longer than divined so yeah and I thought that was pretty time [TS]

01:47:36   so yeah but still it was also got to the point using it on my phone [TS]

01:47:43   we're going back to 2006 was was jarring in its own way so you know picking up my [TS]

01:47:51   iPad and seeing iOS 6 was like this anymore [TS]

01:47:55   yeah I've moved on emotionally and I need to be on it devices yeah I don't [TS]

01:48:02   know I'm part of it i think is that you said that the that the parallax seem [TS]

01:48:07   small more noticeable on a bigger screen I think so yeah so it really makes to me [TS]

01:48:12   the home screen on an updated iPad feel static [TS]

01:48:16   feels like there's no life to it I see what you mean I grabbed it up I see what [TS]

01:48:24   you mean about Samsung's history of gold clip found it's actually from Samsung [TS]

01:48:29   themselves it's a Samsung Samsung tomorrow I'll post this to the Schonert [TS]

01:48:38   it's the golden history of Samsung phones an editorial from Samsung [TS]

01:48:44   so that it's interesting that it comes from Samsung because it's you know it's [TS]

01:48:51   like I wonder why they posted this [TS]

01:48:54   yeah why would you do that I could see the need to defend her decision to put [TS]

01:48:59   out a new gold zone right john wants thank you for joining the show [TS]