0:00:00you should try to get you should have gotten Martha Stewart on this week with
0:00:03what's going on with that I've been so busy this week I saw at Martha Stewart
0:00:06was in the news and I have no idea why so too did two things this week I guess
0:00:12your company did one of them but she gets sued by the Lodz Lodz says hi and
0:00:18she says she gets to buy loads as for like five thousand bucks over late the
0:00:23in-app purchase thing that she's she's got some I don't even know what they are
0:00:28but she's got some stops some have to do this in a purchase
0:00:32yes I'm at the use in 2010 for those who do not to Martha Martha Stewart lol
0:00:40really so she soon I'm she's like trying to get their their claim invalidated
0:00:45awesome yeah which would be great because I think that would have assumed
0:00:49that would have implications for everybody else too late for those of you
0:00:54guys don't remember load says hello D sys I think it stands for its like the
0:00:58landlord that means a bunch of assholes is a true patent troll like it's it's
0:01:07there there is nothing they make nothing their office is like a broom closet in
0:01:13Texas patent troll get over use patent troll is used like there's all sorts of
0:01:22cool legitimate complaints about the us- patent system worldwide patents and
0:01:27software patents in particular and and and people throw around the term patent
0:01:33troll to mean companies that are doing objectionable things with patents but
0:01:37that's not really patent troll is really a company that is like the epitome of
0:01:41the problems with the patent system which is a company that actually has no
0:01:45product doesn't do anything as a patent but has no product that actually does
0:01:49the thing that the patent covers that just exists to people and and export
0:01:54licenses and that's what lotus's and they've gone after which is that further
0:02:01objection apart they've gone after a lot of little guys like you know when you
0:02:05sue Apple over patent
0:02:07are you sue Microsoft you know they're ready for it and they saw other people
0:02:12they've got you know big team of full-time patent lawyers and I'm sure
0:02:16it's a pain in the ass to them every time it happens but it's nowhere near as
0:02:19big a deal is when you see news I got friends at the icon factory or James
0:02:24Thompson the guy behind drag thing you know his Toa systems is literally a
0:02:30two-person company at him and his wife and then they got you know big patent
0:02:35fight on their hands so hooray for you might yeah and then she drops her iPad
0:02:42tracks the corner tracks the glass in the corner I guess I don't think it's
0:02:48all the way across but I didn't get it too far into this this rabbit hole but
0:02:52she thinks she took it something about so do I just wait until someone from
0:02:59Apple comes and picks it up and then she was she was kinda getting upset about it
0:03:08on Twitter and and then apparently I guess she got called behind her somehow
0:03:15she got feedback from Apple PR saying hey you know like now and so she said
0:03:21something about that on Twitter too but her complaint are part of a complaint
0:03:28was that she said she said you know you guys should fix this Steve Jobs gave me
0:03:33this I you know I don't know exactly sure how to react to Steve gives you an
0:03:43iPad you do want it
0:03:47the company take care of that iPad in perpetuity
0:03:52it's funny that you would like it also means she must have been she must be
0:03:56using a pretty old iPad right i mean what's the last one he could have given
0:04:01it would have been like to thank an iPad 2 and not even are administering the
0:04:14other hand
0:04:15Martha Stewart could probably afford to buy yourself a new iPad
0:04:19so it's pretty awesome obviously afforded payloads is $5,000 in its
0:04:25really cause she's gonna spend a lot more in that fight right that's pretty
0:04:31awesome maybe her frugality is that's exactly that that's that it's extortion
0:04:37the patent troll game is genuine extortion where they just they they set
0:04:41a price that is in no way less than it would cost to fight and so it just you
0:04:48know it can be a very practical and I don't blame anybody who settles you know
0:04:53who knows I might too I don't depending on what they did you know that it's you
0:04:57know it can be incredibly expensive that's what makes it extortion I'd love
0:05:06to see probably don't want to know the list of people that they have extorted
0:05:12to date and it's so funny because it was like it's just like when I've seen some
0:05:17of the list it's just it just hangs between Mike multi-billion dollar
0:05:22conglomerates and like yeah one person mom-and-pop part-time software jobs
0:05:28remember that one time when dealing systems was announced as one of their
0:05:32targets in which is James Thompson you know little to persons offered company
0:05:36with the next company listed was the Walt Disney Company does that even with
0:05:44hopefully she she sticks it to a degree yeah so anyway you couldn't get her yet
0:05:57me when I was a big fan with the Stuart I have to swim you know used to watch
0:06:05her show you know we don't make time for it to be like flipping through the
0:06:09channels and when the Martha Stewart Show is on we watch and it was like it
0:06:13sounds so dreadfully boring and it kind of is except that it's like it's so
0:06:19boring that like wraps around
0:06:20it is fascinating and she is such an interesting person she so clearly leg
0:06:26and obsessive-compulsive n-ergy you know in her own way a designer and it it it's
0:06:33a year so many ways on her show where she just does not try to hide it
0:06:37that she's a very you know I can still don't think there and Steve Jobs your
0:06:42pals but I think that you know they get a way that he was sort of in not that
0:06:46she's a nut in the same ways and it was just fascinating actually thinking about
0:06:50shimon she went to jail because I mean I'm assuming she probably had multiple
0:06:56chances to settle that you know I don't remember about that as she could tell
0:07:01she really did I think she gets YouTube and so maybe they were trying to make it
0:07:07I think that I don't know that she had a chance to settle i really dunno maybe
0:07:11that's maybe that's true you think from was the ACC's point of view you you
0:07:22don't look good sending Martha but I don't know if she doesn't show much
0:07:27interest and so now the people who should get it exactly the sort of
0:07:32inmates running the asylum aspect that maybe that's it she's not one of them
0:07:40he's an entertainer one of my favorite things about the Muslim artists or Joey
0:07:47me my wife has a terrific margarita recipe but it really just it's just
0:07:55slightly tweaked version of an NCAA me missus we got from Martha Stewart and I
0:08:01think you really wanna get a margarita recipe from Martha Stewart but it's
0:08:04fantastic
0:08:05number one it is I think literally three quarters 2 killer it's like three parts
0:08:10to like a quarter part fresh lime and orange janet to really and that's
0:08:20records mostly line but a little bit I think orange juice thank forget but it's
0:08:26all fresh squeezed
0:08:27three quarters 2 killer and he was a guy who knew that actually is sort of the
0:08:33key to a good margarita served in hand blown glass on a daily that you made
0:08:42yourself and then I made it I was serving at like paper cups so here is a
0:08:53good one I loved it I love this stuff I love these did the analyst to see the
0:08:58thing with the you know Philip elmer-dewitt this has always seemed he
0:09:04does a good job of sort of in my acting like like like analyst specific claim
0:09:10chowder and just sort of you know holding them to their predictions and
0:09:15the thing with the iPhone 5 us and see is you know how many were gonna sell any
0:09:20opening weekend and you know for years Apple as you know I think every year
0:09:24every time the iPhones come out they've you know after the opening weekend
0:09:27they've asked how many they sold and the wall street consensus was like five to
0:09:33six million and arab couple like what's-his-name the TV guy at Munster
0:09:39Gene Munster was five or six million and Apple announces the number and its nine
0:09:44million and instead of wow we were wrong a lot more was well they didn't really
0:09:51sell nine million they really sold five or six million which is what we said and
0:09:57there's like a bunch of them in a closet or a nerd store shelves or something
0:10:04like that
0:10:05alright I think what the Wall Street Journal did was said oh yeah they saw
0:10:11them anybody to back out all these other one first of all you take out Chinese
0:10:15China doesn't count
0:10:16doesn't count because they just went in to change that doesn't mean that doesn't
0:10:20count the fact that they're selling two new phones to go take out the sea
0:10:25doesn't count that doesn't count so when you take out all these other things the
0:10:29day and the sales are not that impressive even though the numbers that
0:10:33they were calling for before the announcement they didn't say oh no we're
0:10:36not counting the five see where only count
0:10:39in the 5s they just that's what makes it so comical to me like you know I hate to
0:10:45be wrong I really do I've said before I get there is you know the whole point
0:10:51during fireball is to write about great products and to try never to be wrong
0:10:57but I fail I do i mean it's human so I'm wrong sometimes and you know what I do
0:11:02when I'm wrong I say ok I was wrong here's why
0:11:05and you know it's great it's such a relief just say just try it sometime
0:11:10yeah I was wrong so comical it is a good question
0:11:18like like there is an and again I i think that these guys you know clearly
0:11:23wrong because they were calling out total iPhone sold for the weekend in
0:11:26their predictions but I do think it is an interesting question as to what the
0:11:32split is between the 5s and the five see and how how does that compare to
0:11:37previous years like last year just one year ago when the iPhone 5 went on sale
0:11:42did they sell a lot of the 10 year old for s because of the discount applied to
0:11:49the 40 S over the same weekend I tend to think no I tend to think that you know
0:11:57especially when they were just your old and two-year-old models at the lower
0:12:00price point that those just sold the people as they on a regular schedule
0:12:06you know like when they decided to buy a new phone they go in the store and got
0:12:10it whereas the people who actually know the new iPhone goes on sale today at
0:12:16nine o'clock there all interested in top-line
0:12:20people don't go wait in line to buy it but this is the first time you could
0:12:24actually have some kind of indication about how well that second tier sold
0:12:33how well they're included in the numbers now they're included in the new numbers
0:12:39I'm assuming well I mean I wonder Apple's does Apple include like they
0:12:46probably include the for a student thing I don't know about that no but anyway
0:12:53even if they're even after throwing for us in there as well
0:12:59can't couldn't you tell with this one from local medics tried to do a web
0:13:06analysis to see how many you know what the percentage of 5 seized on the web
0:13:12was versus 5 S's and I think they came up with something like to go back and
0:13:19look like 430 yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't know how they did that though
0:13:24because I know maybe I'm wrong I actually don't even know what like those
0:13:28in app analytics packages can see I don't know that either assuming that
0:13:33they figure it out somehow like you can you can run some tests on like the CPU
0:13:38speed or something and know that you're going on in a seven instead of in a sex
0:13:42but I don't know the exact model right I don't know how you would be able to tell
0:13:47a five see apart from a plain old five which is really what it looks like
0:13:51internally I don't know maybe there's some way that's why didn't I didn't link
0:13:56to their thing because I don't trust those in app analytics stats all that
0:14:02much because I don't either because I I question the sort of apps that include
0:14:07them like I feel like a lot of the apps I use don't use sketchy ad based
0:14:14analytics cuz I don't use abstinent Madison you guys you guys use that right
0:14:18well best investor yeah it's loaded with
0:14:23just really everything we deserve all this it's really only about a good call
0:14:31ya otherwise you don't get good data we track your location are not true we
0:14:47should be very clear about that but I would love to I didn't but I was funny
0:14:56to them because all those people jumped on the fact that after the five see you
0:15:00went on pre-order the week before that Apple didn't announce anything about
0:15:04those numbers but like I wrote when when that became a little mini scandal and
0:15:09everybody jump or not everybody but the pessimist jump to the conclusion that
0:15:13they must be bad because otherwise they promote them that there's no way they
0:15:18were going to break out the 5s from five see cuz they don't want competitors to
0:15:22know that
0:15:22yeah Boulevard would point out is that all these analysts are going nuts about
0:15:28this and none of the other smartphone companies ever adjust their even say how
0:15:32many phones they've sold period Samsung doesn't say a minimum day every once in
0:15:38a while they do right they put it like out of minutes text you can't really is
0:15:45the whole question about them doing shipments as opposed to sales and yeah I
0:15:50mean which they should they don't know exactly when the phone gets old anyway
0:15:57but you know what Apple sells a cell phone from its store sold right and one
0:16:05other thing too is that clearly you know this
0:16:09the stores just like with durable as weak on the show if you wanted to get
0:16:14one on Friday would you should have gone to an Apple store not the carrier stores
0:16:17because that's where the stores that are getting the most of them and Apple
0:16:21doesn't count those as sold until customers have sold them like they do
0:16:28currently when they when they ship a box of brand new iPhones to a Verizon
0:16:32Wireless retail store those count as sold because Verizon
0:16:36the phones and gives out more money in the account is sold and so if they are
0:16:40sitting on sold in the Verizon store they haven't been sold to customers yet
0:16:45but the ones that go to the Apple stores they don't they don't count until you
0:16:49have to tell somebody buys it and that's also true for the as yet unknown shipped
0:16:54online orders right and so like I don't even know if I think the last I checked
0:17:00every single one of the 5 S's every color it just when you go to order it
0:17:04online now it doesn't give you a day to just says October oh is that right
0:17:08yeah cause I think that there I don't know I feel like they can't even they
0:17:14just want to ask to me but that means did you know however many people I'm
0:17:18sure it's probably millions right now have ordered online
0:17:23a new 5s and it isn't yet in their hands and it's you know coming in October but
0:17:28those won't count as sold in Apple by a pond till you know ship have it in your
0:17:33hand I actually wasn't carrier's store because because I was switching from
0:17:40AT&T to Verizon and I didn't know how well we would be able to deal with that
0:17:45but also because I walked right up and I wasn't getting I was I got a 16 gig
0:17:53black you know good space great so I knew I was getting a phone that they
0:17:57were most likely to have first-rate white gold I certainly when I'm gone
0:18:02there but I figure 16 gig black space
0:18:07they're gonna have that and sure enough when I went I got my phone I walked by
0:18:13the Apple store after that and still line wasn't it wasn't huge but there is
0:18:18still only thirty people want so bad advice I didn't listen to you guys until
0:18:25after he had my phone and you're listening as you walk home as you went
0:18:34by the online I just think it depends it depends on what you're looking for when
0:18:40you trying to accomplish I was at the the xoxo in Portland last yeah sorry I
0:18:51was you know that the jerk who already had a 5s because I had the review unit
0:18:58from Apple and I had the gold one you know so I could actually prove that the
0:19:02new one so all I did was but I said I did I bought my own personal space great
0:19:07but I ordered online because there is no way of getting up and getting into line
0:19:14but I ordered right at like midnight 011 my phone said 1200 put down my drink
0:19:24open up the Apple Store app which i think is the best way to do it opened up
0:19:28the app and it said you want to replace this phone phone I'm using with a new
0:19:34one
0:19:34here's what I want and click link to more buttons and it said ok orders
0:19:39placed it'll be there and one to three days you're you're seeing it knew which
0:19:43phone you had yes the Apple when you and I did this I think before too but when
0:19:50you order a new iPhone using the Apple Store app on your iPhone it will offer
0:19:55you know you want a new phone or do you want to replace this very fun and you
0:20:00know gave me my phone number and I said yes I want to replace this phone
0:20:03and then the phones that came to see me going to its really AM it's really slick
0:20:10the phone comes in and it came Wednesday so that was three days three business
0:20:15days
0:20:16you open it up and it's already says like this phone is going to replace you
0:20:21know really XY period it'll become you know your your phone number will move
0:20:27over and you do that and it I guess what they call that process
0:20:32activates and then as soon as it does your old phone is no longer has service
0:20:36in new phone has your phone number of priests like it's still one day do like
0:20:42a tap tap to replace with Apple TV a bump the front doorstep to set it up I
0:20:54guess you can do that when you order online on the website too but you just
0:20:57have to enter you have to enter like your Verizon account info and it lists
0:21:01your phone numbers it's just so much easier especially like if you really
0:21:05kinda wanna get it fast and you want to kind of water within a minute or two you
0:21:09know it's it's almost like getting WBC tickets you know it's so much it is a
0:21:14safe so many steps when you say replace this found somebody else was with us
0:21:19where we were ordering them and I forget what happened that she did you know it
0:21:30took her an extra couple of minutes and in in the interim like the shipping time
0:21:34and she got the same phone that Amy did the gold one and it was like days later
0:21:38estimated arrival so I mean they did go fast so it if you use the app and your
0:21:47last name is grouper I don't think that you get it super fast I don't think
0:21:54that's right to the front of the line
0:21:59show her shows up with it helps you make sure your eyeglasses back that you see
0:22:13you did the switch had that work how'd that go for him pretty well I'm afraid
0:22:20to to see my at&t bill cuz I'm breaking
0:22:23I got that bill Lester and breaking contract but but my wife was on we were
0:22:28both on AT&T I was on AT&T for like 15 years that's where I was and and we just
0:22:35we've never gotten very good reception in the house here and she's running a
0:22:39business up her phone so she's like she we try to do we know we tried a
0:22:45microcell and kept dropping us off the Microcell filing you know what i mean
0:22:51she was getting calls from clients are again they were going to voicemail so so
0:22:57she she jumped a few months ago and I so we could keep the same network it went
0:23:06pretty well for me as I recall it was sort of a hassle is certainly a lot
0:23:10harder than just upgrade yeah I mean I said that stand at the counter for a
0:23:13while and 10,000 pieces of information but but it worked
0:23:20do you think ordering an in store was the way to go
0:23:23well i i just thought since I was switching networks that it would be
0:23:27cause I don't I just don't imagine that there are equipped to handle that at the
0:23:33Apple Store but I never tried it I don't know if AT&T has something like this now
0:23:37too but I know what Verizon we have a pretty pretty nice shared data plan
0:23:42yeah where you just pick how many gigabytes you want for the as many
0:23:46phones as you have and I even have my iPad on it right and so instead of
0:23:51paying separately for the iPad just one collective pool of data and there they
0:23:58give you good warnings in advance and as long as you move it up like if you're
0:24:05going to go over of 6 gigabytes collectively and you get close you can
0:24:08go up to eight
0:24:09eight and you don't pay any penalty for that you just pay the pro-rated thing
0:24:15and then next month you can take it back down to six or so over the summer like I
0:24:20watched a lot of baseball games on the iPad and I did have to move the data but
0:24:27I didn't you know it was nice to have that problem shortly
0:24:34oh boy i'd something we should get back to that after I should we be yeah I was
0:24:44gonna ask you get get the spot to break out before you start sobbing like a
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0:28:22way when the stimulant depressant charge than yours but yes I do it's five
0:28:27o'clock somewhere
0:28:28baseball I so I just watched a watch that video so as we reported Friday the
0:28:3927th of September and last night at Yankee Stadium was last game that
0:28:44Mariano Rivera's gonna play pretty angry at Yankee Stadium and you know yankee
0:28:52season really just gone to shit in the last three weeks I mean they were in it
0:28:56against all odds with the crazy amount of injuries they've had this year but
0:28:59they were really in the hunt and when they really just needed they didn't even
0:29:03need to play that great but they've really should the bed and so they're out
0:29:07of the playoffs then I mean I think that the last time there was a baseball game
0:29:13at Yankee Stadium where the Yankees weren't in playoff contention at least
0:29:19was 1993 and that's a helluva run so they're out of it and so really the only
0:29:26thing at stake is that two of the great Yankees are retiring this year Mariano
0:29:30Rivera and Andy Pettitte and Mariano is the bigger deal and I don't retire
0:29:37already once yeah he retired in 2010 after they won the World Series in 2009
0:29:43and then he was gone for a year and then and then missed it came back and it's
0:29:49been great I mean a Muslim one of the most remarkable things about the Yankees
0:29:52this year they have a lot of pitching brahms but and Andy Pettitte is 41 has
0:29:57been especially in the second half of the season by far their most reliable
0:30:01pitcher Mariano Rivera is 43 I think he's
0:30:06Jamie Moyer's gone he's like literally the oldest guy in Major League Baseball
0:30:10and had another fantastic all-star caliber season I mean I mean absolutely
0:30:18not like he couldn't play again i mean he's walking away at 43 still literally
0:30:24at the top of his game but it was amazing because everybody wanted to see
0:30:28him and so even though the Yankees are out of the playoffs which usually means
0:30:32that Yankee Stadium to say he's right I mean Yankee fans are only there for one
0:30:36thing and one thing only and that's season championships
0:30:40it was a sell-out total sell-out really wish I could have been there and it was
0:30:45just like a big like an Irish Irish funeral at the end everybody was just
0:30:50slow burn crying really kind of amazing and they did they handled it I thought
0:30:57they handled it amazingly ya know is very nice even someone who does not
0:31:02particularly who is not particularly a Yankee fan it's a nice moment in
0:31:07baseball
0:31:08anytime a guy it's likely we'll never get that in our careers where we get to
0:31:12walk out and wave
0:31:16well a lot of people so few even do because you know usually they play until
0:31:23their past you know past their expiration date and they know they make
0:31:28the decision in the offseason you know and they don't get that what they did
0:31:32and improves your baseball fans I apologize but the way that it goes if
0:31:36your picture and they gonna make it pitching change and take you out for
0:31:40another pitcher in the manager of the team comes out to the mound takes the
0:31:44ball from your hand like a symbolic gesture I don't think the rules actually
0:31:48stipulate you have to take the ball from him but that's just what it's done it's
0:31:52you know manager or any other league you know level the coach comes out takes the
0:31:57ball from your hand you leave the mound and then they call him the guys gonna
0:32:00replace you and Mariano Rivera as that's closer he's always the last picture he
0:32:08comes in and nobody takes the ball from them
0:32:12and so when he got to two outs in the ninth the Yankees manager Joe Girardi
0:32:18instead of coming out he sent to players a decent Derek Jeter and Andy Pettitte
0:32:24out and jeering pettit took the ball from three of them just broke down
0:32:30crying actually Jeter was laughin Jeter and as I've never seen anything like
0:32:38that before there's no nobody else who you could you know I don't you know who
0:32:42could have done that before but it was really just kind of amazing party was
0:32:48amazing to his the capture the guy named Jay R Murphy and he's like 22 years old
0:32:52so he's a young kid there only really planning to start like a test to see you
0:32:56know see what the kids got but at 22 years old that means when he was born
0:33:00the day he was born Mariano Rivera was already in the Yankees minor leaks which
0:33:09is crazy like this kid by margaret was in the Yankees minor leagues playing
0:33:14professional baseball for the Yankee organization on the day the kid was born
0:33:17and then he's the guy who got to catch you know various last parents and his
0:33:22face if you watch that video
0:33:24mercies face he looks like what you think you would look like he just looks
0:33:29like oh my god I can't believe that I'm here I was crime I don't think I've
0:33:37cried in years I don't think about it I don't know the last time I was here I
0:33:42was watching it I was tears coming down my face
0:33:45there's a platter
0:33:50terrible I'm never going to say well you know there's a certain amino Yankee
0:33:57Stadium is the thing that to me is a little ignominious is now the Yankees
0:34:01mp3 totally meaningless games which is just doesn't seem right just seems like
0:34:11the days but I don't know because they are meaningless and they don't have
0:34:18playoff implications that the rumors that mo wants to play center field so
0:34:23there might be my plan
0:34:25or two in center field down in and some to see ya totally he's will you know how
0:34:33he remember when he hurt his knee last year repeatedly for years his whole
0:34:37career he likes to shag flies he's an excellent how he gets his work out how
0:34:42he stays in shape before every game he's out with the outfielders and always has
0:34:47been a whole career catching long running down fly balls and catching up
0:34:52and the word is always been that when he was like in the minor leagues that a lot
0:34:58of the Yankees scouts that he was one of the best outfield I don't know if he was
0:35:02ever a good hitter I don't know if you get hit but defensively that you know
0:35:05and athletically he was always considered you know maybe one of the
0:35:08best in the whole system and he's always said like nobody can tell if he's joking
0:35:13or not that bad for he retires he'd like to play a little center field for the
0:35:17Yankees and so you know they have a dad Joe Girardi and he said maybe so well
0:35:27why not
0:35:30seasons seasons basically over right and you couldn't do that like to see they're
0:35:36playing the Tampa Bay Rays last night the Tampa Bay Rays are in the wild-card
0:35:38chase so like every game they play means something so even if you are right there
0:35:50is also a kid who came in and who do you know who's the guy who replaces MO and
0:35:55it was just some no-name kid I kid named daily came in and threw three pitches
0:36:02and struck the next guy out and it was like man I don't and I you know I don't
0:36:06think it was for nothing Tampa I don't think that the guy purposely struck out
0:36:11I you know you know I think that pro baseball players you know everybody was
0:36:15there from oh but you try to win
0:36:17but and talk about leg nobody really want to see him pitch like you did the
0:36:23right thing what's the deal with the Mariners are they really listening still
0:36:37we talked about Martha Stewart for a while
0:36:43baseball fans Martha Stewart likes baseball I probably would imagine that
0:36:52yeah but she likes tequila that's right
0:36:58wouldn't have expected that yeah I wanted to kill apparently let me tell
0:37:05you about to make that up after that recipe about to get out of jail know
0:37:09this is a long time late at night or two thousand or so she's 24 bathtub gin
0:37:17after she presents right after Brazil maybe she had like how to make your own
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0:37:3830 reg what is presently go out of town potatoes I get paid anything that was
0:37:48just my wife she I'm sure she knows she's my wife is a private investigator
0:37:55she is actually been to prison many times but just like a monopoly just
0:38:02visiting area they said that should be like the new hipster thing you know how
0:38:08I get a lot of the people are making their own beer Yeah Yeah right you make
0:38:12your online presence great is it Jen Jen seems like that'd be hard to make its
0:38:21prominent know it was really just some kind of you would probably be putting on
0:38:26airs for what that is just some kind of unclassifiable yeah right good sign
0:38:35moon change probably even classier too classy but because it seems like
0:38:40moonshine it every 1000 my experience watching it be made is watching The
0:38:45Dukes of Hazzard frankly it just seemed to me like it requires a pretty
0:38:49significant apparatus yeah he's crazy thing with tubes teachers class
0:38:58things you know like a science lab right present you need you just need something
0:39:04they got like a little tiny sink in there and they have a toilet
0:39:16I don't think I'm not sure that's gonna catch on
0:39:19we laugh but if you and i got sent to prison together you know we set to work
0:39:22out all my god the first thing I did I think I might take it as an opportunity
0:39:27did did maybe tryout thing for about a day and I think I think we think we have
0:39:36to say anything to each other and we could just look at each other and we'd
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0:44:18touch I D that's pretty good with you know what to say you have you have to
0:44:28touch idea so when did that happen it seemed like it blew up in their early
0:44:34this week when I and as soon as it started blowing up I was like well now
0:44:38we know what the overblown fake scandal the iPhone 5 is gonna mess is going to
0:44:43be and then I think the weirdest thing happened it seemed like the internet
0:44:48collectively came to its senses yeah I haven't seen anything really outrageous
0:44:56about that they clearly seems like everybody's like you can you can do it
0:45:01but it's not exactly like everybody's going to be doing it is it interesting
0:45:07that you can that you can spoof of fingerprint like what these guys did is
0:45:12they print they they like to get 2400 dpi fingerprint skin and then you use
0:45:19that to produce like a stack a rubber fake
0:45:23fingerprint put it over your own finger and then your finger you know that
0:45:28fingerprint I mean it's you know it's not impossible but it's it's kinda
0:45:34Mission Impossible II you know it's like a spy movie type that I mean it takes
0:45:37expertise
0:45:39yeah I'm gonna take some expertise as he adds it's certain maker like I said I
0:45:44said make her skills kind of thing it's a crafty crafty and the whole plane is
0:45:54still that even with that touch it is still obviously better than what Apple
0:46:02said most people just don't use the passcode it all right or it's probably
0:46:07still even better than a simple pass code I think it definitely is I mean I
0:46:13mean you can argue about that
0:46:15about whether it's better than a simple pass code but it's unquestionably better
0:46:19than none at all I mean I'm bottom line is you anyway only thing they showed you
0:46:23are being attacked by someone who has the expertise to make 2400 dpi fake copy
0:46:31of your fingerprint that the sensor can be spoofed why I mean it's interesting
0:46:37but I don't think that's surprising you know yeah I don't and I think calling it
0:46:41a hack is is totally misleading that CBN that seems like the wrong word but I
0:46:46don't know of a better word
0:46:47both our fault that you can spoofing with a fake fingerprints high-quality
0:46:52fake printer I really don't think you know and I don't think that if I just
0:46:58handed over my phone to them right now without having wiped it or anything I
0:47:05don't think it's possible to just take a fingerprint from it that would that
0:47:09would be of high enough quality I think you'd have to really kind of work to get
0:47:12a fingerprint quality and even if I'm wrong you're still talking about experts
0:47:15it's not going to be of any help to someone who just deals are finds an
0:47:19iPhone I think it depends I think I think there are no I didn't see the
0:47:30whole and watch the whole thing but it doesn't seem it seems like the kind of
0:47:33thing that you could follow
0:47:36and do if you really want to do but well done it doesn't seem like people doesn't
0:47:42it seem like the people who steal a phone and much much more interested in
0:47:45getting the phone
0:47:46yeah so if they're not they're not that interested in getting your data most
0:47:52most phone phone thieves are right about the phone and you know let's face it for
0:47:58a lot of us it's really just a way to defend against somebody right by which I
0:48:07mean there's a whole thing where people if you leave your phone unattended your
0:48:10your quote unquote friends will take it and go to your Twitter and then just
0:48:14read the word poopin to fake to make it look as though while you were taking a
0:48:20poop you and that's that was the example that I used because we've got this
0:48:24friend drinking with frequently and I know what is passcode is just cause I've
0:48:28seen in type it in so many times and he's got some capacity and turned on so
0:48:33many people doing this all the time like a bunch of guys sitting at the bar just
0:48:40leave the front of the bar later the bathroom right and I don't do that I
0:48:45don't do they want to be on my phone in the bathroom now but I don't do that I
0:48:54don't know I feel very uncomfortable in my phone is likely I know those guys
0:49:00were trying to get into it
0:49:03yeah so I'll be interested to see if anybody it doesn't seem like it's that
0:49:18big a deal I do think it's interesting that some of the analysis of it you know
0:49:25how secure is it you know are you aside just in terms of his cool feature a lot
0:49:32of the people kind of figured out more and more how this works that a lot of it
0:49:35really comes down to the fact that Apple is designing its own system on chips now
0:49:42right
0:49:43like that that was a big change and
0:49:47I remember thinking it was a most unusual how much how proud Steve Jobs
0:49:52seemed of that first did it with what the A four processor so what would that
0:49:57have been for years ago so that the first iPhone 4 right I think that's
0:50:06right and you know I remember thinking it was more about Steve Jobs would be an
0:50:12old school you know from back in the seventies and eighties when the
0:50:15semi-conductor industry was new and and you know that it was made him proud that
0:50:21Apple is doing a lot of that now on its own instead of just getting getting
0:50:25parts from others but I think part in hindsight our wives body was so proud
0:50:31about it is that its enabling them to do features that they couldn't otherwise do
0:50:36that it really is part of system-on-a-chip design that there's
0:50:41this secure enclave where there's storage that is completely like
0:50:46technically inaccessible to the actual regular operating system
0:50:50nothing in iOS not even the root process can access it and that's going to be
0:50:57it's gonna be hard to copy
0:50:59chip design is like a years-long process like I think this is something that they
0:51:05started working on you know five years ago maybe longer
0:51:10yeah and it may not take five years for other companies are copied but it will
0:51:14take years
0:51:24you like the tragedy use it until yeah yeah I mean the one of the great things
0:51:30about it is that it lets me to turn on the comp turn off its turn off simple
0:51:38pass code right now you have a long pass go have a long pass code and I have to
0:51:47be required to be unlocked immediately yes yeah totally so I mean so I think
0:51:52those two things I think my phones more secure than it was told it and so it'll
0:51:58be interesting to see what happens if if somebody and maybe it's not even a
0:52:03question of if maybe it's you know we should admit that it's a questionable
0:52:06and somebody is going to have their phone unlocked against their will by
0:52:11this you know you know and there's a good question about like what law
0:52:17enforcement can do like yeah you know that you're something like a password is
0:52:27considered like half in the USA the first amendment type thing that you can
0:52:31rate you you know they can't say what's the password to your phone you can just
0:52:34you know you're allowed to not answer question are you a loud not have them
0:52:40physically force your thumb against the sensor added you know people that sort
0:52:47of an open question on that
0:52:48yeah it's like a key where you can claim a first amendment right to a key around
0:52:55a physical healing the key to your car right except in this case it is you're
0:52:58you know it's a little different than a key because it's you know your body so i
0:53:02dont no question people are concerned about it and then you know and in a lot
0:53:06of this comes down to who are you concerned about getting access to hear
0:53:09from you know and obviously know this NSA stuff is on people's minds and
0:53:13rightly so
0:53:14saying that shouldn't be but in terms of protecting you from government agencies
0:53:20no touch idea probably is is not gonna stop anything but I you know again
0:53:27against your friends or your kids or just somebody who find your phone in the
0:53:32back of a cab right
0:53:35you lose your phone in a cab such ideas gonna work great
0:53:39yeah I use it all the time how many things did you set up with Jose just his
0:53:52toes 333 thumbs and then I actually used by women telling you this should say
0:54:03this now some is gonna come in the middle of the night off but John you
0:54:13forget I'm switching my fingers right now
0:54:22rattle but my parents had this book this German book that was trying to teach
0:54:31kids manners from the 1800's had no idea how they got this book but we had this
0:54:37book liner and growing up and one of the stories when these horrible germans
0:54:40stories from the mid 1800's I think it's I think it's pronounced their struggle
0:54:47Peter and his mother goes out this is because that's what they did back then
0:54:51they just left the kids at home so she goes out to the go grocery shopping and
0:54:55whatever she tells the kids don't suck your thumb or just rule peace will come
0:54:59get you so because the minute the woman goes out the door and the kids start
0:55:05sucking his thumb and this guy bursts into the door and he's got these huge
0:55:11Scissorhands and he's snips the kids and the kid is just sitting there crying
0:55:19with no thumbs and that's the moral of the story
0:55:27unsecured bonds or some crazy crazy man wandering off that was that was midday
0:55:36to 1800 parenting pretty good look at you can look that up on the web it's
0:55:43that there's a lot of places like point-blank
0:55:46exclusive publisher case if you go back a hundred years of it always looks like
0:55:52we're pretty terrible to our kids like maybe in 1850 when they were using this
0:55:56book to teach kids not to suck their thumbs a hundred years prior to that
0:56:00maybe they actually cut off the kids can you believe that we have to actually do
0:56:05this to the kids and they're like modern parenting technology that would allow us
0:56:10to convey to the children that their times would be right in grandpa's
0:56:14actually cut the thumbs off Grampa who grew up then is in the corner and
0:56:17missing her like how you see this man with Stephen Elop and in the car so long
0:56:34story short in this to me is wise guy who's got two thumbs and $25,000,000 it
0:56:43was long rumored by you know especially Nokia fans so when when Nokia hired him
0:56:50he came from Microsoft and then shortly after he got there he said ok my
0:56:54evaluation is we're screwed on smartphone operating systems are as is
0:56:59no good
0:57:00the one we've been workin' simeon so good this whatever it was they were not
0:57:05going to cut it we're gonna go to Windows seven and so everybody was like
0:57:08who hire a guy from Microsoft he comes in and he switches us to Windows Phone
0:57:12this seems to me like this guy was a mall maybe his plan is to run okie in
0:57:18the ground and then have Microsoft by then it turns out this week that his
0:57:22contract was structured such that well just in case Nokia gets cash strapped in
0:57:30their business goes down and because their cash-strapped they have to sell
0:57:34the company to say there may be their handset business to say Microsoft well
0:57:40if that happens we'll give you a twenty-five million dollar bonus
0:57:44lo and behold that's exactly what happened and then the top that off I
0:57:51guess because it's it's such a true scandal in in
0:57:55what Finland Finland has no kids you know rightly so you know that's the
0:58:01pride of Finland you know and it's a big big company worldwide but it certainly
0:58:06bigger deal in Finland is a scandal over this and so the board apparently went to
0:58:11him and asked him what would you give that bonus back and his answers that he
0:58:17can't because he's getting a divorce and his wife on it so he's gotten he's
0:58:31already gotten the money I guess it's whatever you know either he's gotten it
0:58:40or he's legally going to get then there's nothing they can do unless he
0:58:44volunteered to turn it down or renegotiate or something
0:58:48the thing with the wife is interesting to me on two fronts on a personal level
0:58:52the fact that he was willing to publicly throw her under the bus makes it a lot
0:58:57less surprising that she wants to divorce him in the first place but the
0:59:03second part is I don't blame her at all right she didn't run Nokia into the
0:59:08ground as you know his wife she is legally entitled to half the money so
0:59:14you know why should she turned it down it's you know to me now Nokia the
0:59:23dumbass Nokia boards fault for agreeing to a contract like that it it just seems
0:59:30like a crazy thing to put in a contract like you be like if you're hiring a new
0:59:34coach of your team and you rewarded losing a record number of games just in
0:59:39case we only went n ball games in one of the next three seasons you'll get a
0:59:44bonus
0:59:45why would you put why would you put a bonus like that and I guess it was
0:59:49structured in language that made it seem like a golden parachute right like if
0:59:54the handset businesses acquired you know if you the board approved a handset sale
0:59:59I get a big bonus
1:00:01but you know doesn't that logically seemed like the only way that the
1:00:05handset business would get sold is if you do a pretty bad job running it I
1:00:13guess the added no I mean maybe the idea is that if you look at it the other way
1:00:17and that his composition you did a good job and not run the company into the
1:00:21ground as compensation when a lot more I i guess i dont know just certainly yeah
1:00:29yeah right i mean you could it leaves a bad taste of some of these packages 25
1:00:36millions not happening and it really does I mean I know it I never thought it
1:00:43sounded crazy it's not you know kubrick fake the moon landings crazy it's just
1:00:49you know like this kind of a conspiracy the idea that he was a Microsoft more
1:00:54from the beginning but you know now that they're actually selling the hinson unit
1:00:57to Microsoft it you know it's kinda like well call it conspiracy or what you will
1:01:01it happen and it certainly hasn't been good for like Nokia shareholders
1:01:06customers now I'm interested know what Nokia the company's gonna do after this
1:01:16does that mean they're buying their mobile services right Microsoft is
1:01:22buying their mobile services business and Nokia still a company in Finland
1:01:28I don't know what they don't know what other businesses there was some
1:01:31and I forgot to mention the center somebody like me was nearly Patil said
1:01:36somebody mentioned the same comments or something on the verge may not remember
1:01:41that Nokia will go on by HTC and then start making Android phones which I
1:01:51thought was interesting
1:01:52and that shit that really helps them but I don't know when you get back to that
1:01:59he gets back that whole question about what they should have done the first
1:02:01place
1:02:04their chance for a do over four years too late but whatever it was three years
1:02:12helen is how long ago was that that he ditched
1:02:17three years is pretty fast in the grand scheme of things I mean that caused it
1:02:22to be like three others because the iPhone has only been out six years and
1:02:26it was you know the whole thing was precipitated by the rise of and Windows
1:02:32Phone hasn't been around that one no I think two years so right now I think
1:02:39it's think it's been longer than that but three years yeah yeah we think it's
1:02:42been three years yeah keep saying it's gonna gonna take over a hundred I can't
1:02:54find that one again everyone that went out and that's probably a worse that's
1:03:00probably one of the worst clam chowders over because it's so so bad and it but
1:03:06it is what they wanted right that you know and it's so directly comparable you
1:03:11know that you know some of the Android iPhone comparisons are so tough because
1:03:15Android is just an OS that they license to other people to make an iPhone is all
1:03:19Apple whereas Windows Phone is a 1000 ask that they license to handset makers
1:03:24to make Windows Phone and Android are couldn't be more direct competitors
1:03:29right and and what was I forget who is liked by 2014
1:03:35that's because it was by the end of this year is coming up one of those firms had
1:03:42speculated that you know and that's even more so you got it
1:03:47well it's it's even worse than the infamous clam chowder by Eric Schmidt
1:03:52who like a year ago said that by the middle of the next summer
1:03:55the TVs sold in america we're gonna have Google TV and that's bad and he was
1:04:00wrong i mean nobody even talks about Google TV anymore but at least you know
1:04:04then he he's pretty he's trying to push his own company I mean that's that's you
1:04:08can call that marketing that's what ya and you are you supposed to do and he
1:04:12was this is an analysis is Pyramid Research Analyst Stella bokan said that
1:04:19Windows Phone is poised to overtake interests massive market share as soon
1:04:23as 2013 and this was this is back in 2011 May of 2011
1:04:29yeah you know known by then with Eric Schmidt he was published was on stage
1:04:38being interviewed and you know I think he sort of has a tendency to to run his
1:04:42mouth a little bit he was shooting from the hip you know and maybe as soon as he
1:04:46said he was like I said that but I'm promoting the game like you said he sees
1:04:51a spokesman for the company where is this is supposed to be a measured
1:04:54well-considered research report right this is our analysis is why you should
1:05:01you should pay our company to provide research for you because we're so good
1:05:07you're so smart we understand the market
1:05:10yeah and they really have to believe that they think that a lot of these
1:05:14companies think that they just need to get their name out there and so they
1:05:17need to say something crazy in order to get their name out there but I just died
1:05:22can never figure out exactly how they'd reconcile that with looking like idiots
1:05:29for saying something that's so obviously not going to happen
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1:05:54and white I got minor spilling over into the center I try to keep my mind right
1:06:00now and that this is consciously trying to keep a minimum number 123456789 10 12
1:06:0813 I got thirteen of them and that's not even including notifications and no
1:06:17that's not counting the ones that you can't turn off notifications spotlight
1:06:22what does bartender bartender lets you organize those menu items you can hide
1:06:29them you can replace them all with a little dot dot dot and then you just hit
1:06:34that and then it shows them too so it reduces the clarity see all the time but
1:06:39you can still use all those things cause why do I have thirteen of them because
1:06:42every once in a while I really do want he's you know I really do have to go
1:06:46into the Dropbox menu or something like that or I do want to open up the text
1:06:51expander mania I can have a bartender out of my way you move into the
1:06:58bartender bar and then you display them when you want you can rearrange the
1:07:04order of them you can rearrange the order of all of those things that really
1:07:10great you can even have it you can even do smart things like only have MenuItem
1:07:14show when they update like if you have one that you know like some Twitter
1:07:19client have one of those little things up there and it'll turn a color when you
1:07:23have direct messages or something like that where you can set it with bartender
1:07:27so that it only even shows up when it has some kind of notification or an
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1:07:37compatible so if in the back of your head wise guys you're thinking hey it's
1:07:42a pretty cool trick but maybe we can work with maverick's which is coming out
1:07:46really soon well they've already shipped an updated compatible with maverick's
1:07:51here's one last thing about it that is just amazing me go to their website and
1:07:57download it and you get four week free trial that's super generous and I think
1:08:02that just shows the confidence they have in the four weeks are up you're going to
1:08:05be like I gotta buy it where do you go to find out more go to their web site
1:08:09WWW dot Mac bartender dot com Mac bartender dot com great utility for a
1:08:19week free trial
1:08:24crying goodbyes CEO Steve Ballmer I didn't like the big big annual kinda sad
1:08:34watching him go out he's really yeah that's not the way you want to go out
1:08:39really pretty ugly yeah he's not going out to know she rumor gossip
1:08:48ready to the top of his game I read it and Business Insider so lord only knows
1:08:52what I was doing on your website so it could be completely false but I saw the
1:08:56ad said that while leading candidate to replace him as the guy who's that CEO of
1:09:00Ford Ford Motor Company yeah I heard that I don't know anything about the CEO
1:09:06the ford motor company but I will tell you it does not sound to me like he
1:09:09should be running Microsoft it doesn't sound to me like like that's going
1:09:13against Kelly yeah you know I mean yeah it does not as a it doesn't seem to any
1:09:2590 Ford is not like going under and I know that during the whole fiscal crisis
1:09:31that of the big three USA auto makers they were in far better shape you know
1:09:34didn't need a bailout like GMT
1:09:36ever and you know good for them but nobody really can do things wow ford's
1:09:43really you know dominating the world of cars right so I don't know about that
1:09:51and the CEO knows how to rescue a software company
1:09:57yeah and I feel like if there's any kind of lesson I mean I don't know I still
1:10:03think that big part of the problem with bombers CEO is that the guy just never
1:10:08really got it and I'm not saying you have to be Bill Gates who was literally
1:10:13a great programmer you don't have to be a programmer to run Microsoft you know
1:10:19in the same way that you don't have to be an industrial designer to run Apple
1:10:24rate Tim Cook is not a designer but I do feel that Tim Cook fundamentally when
1:10:29you listen to him he understands what it is that Apple is supposed to be doing
1:10:34and I don't think bomber ever really got that with Microsoft at least in the
1:10:38consumer space I think bombers understanding of what why how and why
1:10:44Microsoft as successful with entirely revolved around the franchise's he had
1:10:49inherited in and around the enterprise market which could be you know could be
1:10:54lucrative maybe long term that's the route that Microsoft goes but I think
1:10:58the reason he's being shown the door is because of their failures in the
1:11:01consumer space
1:11:03yeah man I think there's any question about that and it wasn't for the company
1:11:10that made a pretty big push into the Microsoft designed software interface to
1:11:15their cars and it was to you know shocking and horrible
1:11:20that sounds familiar but amateur
1:11:26I just it seems like the kind of thing where you would hope that something they
1:11:30have somebody inside that they could promote we have those kind of what I
1:11:35thought but I don't know but then I did but I don't know anything about their
1:11:40bench yeah and the other thing to me is if that's the route they were gonna go I
1:11:43would've thought I would think that maybe it wouldn't be we're gonna have a
1:11:47year-long transition they would have said yeah done that quietly on the side
1:11:53of the old switcheroo and I know that it's different circumstances then was
1:11:58with Steve Jobs because you know we now know in hindsight that you know that
1:12:02that transition was he you know he was at the end of the rope health wise he
1:12:07was dying or at least failing but you know it is though like in terms of like
1:12:15a step-by-step process it how you do it you know you announce something but you
1:12:20say and here's the guy you know who's coming up just seems I don't think
1:12:26they're gonna I don't think they're going to hire someone from inside yeah
1:12:30it doesn't look like it which I just think it seems like a terrible i cant
1:12:35really I cannot think of it
1:12:36an instance where that's worked really well I don't know maybe I'm sure it
1:12:42happens all the time but maybe that's just a feeling of my opinion I am to
1:12:50that kind of thing but we think in the software industry would technology
1:12:56refers something like that but it's just that companies in Nassau in the computer
1:13:01industry are to me so distinctive like the ones that get big and successful
1:13:08like Microsoft is nothing like Google and
1:13:11neither one of them is anything like Apple and there none of those companies
1:13:15are anything like Facebook
1:13:17you know and I just feel like it's you know they have such strong personalities
1:13:24you know what it is that makes it successful microsoft product Microsoft
1:13:27product is it feel to it you know it it permeates everything they do both the
1:13:32design and Brandon just even what it's meant to do and I feel like I dunno
1:13:38bringing in the guy from forward I just don't doesn't seem like it's gonna help
1:13:42them at all
1:13:50coming out of the gold life I've told that galaxy got anything on that and now
1:13:57it's just a matter of time and they went with the real gold gold that's the one
1:14:04that I didn't even know what joke to crash and its plastic
1:14:09of course is that was one of them i think is one of the hard things and I
1:14:13think it you know it's pretty hard to pull off a plastic
1:14:16think you just don't want to go there but you know like when you first heard
1:14:24the rumors in early August or whatever it was that it seemed like Apple might
1:14:29be the new 5s was gonna come and gold and everybody was a sound good let you
1:14:36know it sounded terrible at first as you suck the air between your teeth and
1:14:40thought and cringed a little and crinkle your eyes and worried that color of gold
1:14:47that you had in your mind that Samsung is going on
1:14:52now supposedly they had a gold phone prior to this but it was a flip phone
1:14:57course they did I love the people who defend them so they got their first but
1:15:03the all-important called foot from work I do think that it's an interesting way
1:15:15going to go let you know I don't think is the only reason he went to the Apple
1:15:19made this cold iPhone because it looks good in a lot of people really like and
1:15:23I think people you know it's an interesting way to keep that same
1:15:26hardware designed for two years as they've done you know for six years in a
1:15:32row and have something that compatible with all the existing cases etc and yet
1:15:37to make it look really know but I can't help but think though that the fact that
1:15:42they make doggone out of medal you know is making gold is an interesting way to
1:15:48differentiate it from Samsung's plastic yes you know to keep the the 5s as a top
1:15:57tier that the that the other phones you know both from competitors and even with
1:16:02the five see from Apple itself that their you know their shelf below right I
1:16:11was getting all this time I was going to go with the white if they have they had
1:16:15kept the same color scheme I was actually gonna get my first white iPhone
1:16:20as I think I actually think the white iPhone 5 looks better than the black one
1:16:24but you want to see my wife my wife ended up getting away at five and UN
1:16:30space does but I got spacecraft that's something improves the banding around it
1:16:38is nice yeah it's definitely it's definitely better than the black sure ya
1:16:43do you agree like what I said last week it was down by four get from stealing
1:16:47this or if I came up with it but my show so it's ok you agree that's reminiscent
1:16:53of the original iPhone it's a darker it's a little darker than the medellin I
1:16:58think it's think it's
1:17:00little bit yeah it's a little bit I didn't really think about that but I
1:17:08would say it's almost like I could see them switching to make like Mac box in
1:17:17this car
1:17:18yeah it's been a long time since they've changed the color of MacBooks you know
1:17:23right I mean I had amassed I don't they would throw the the Ultrabook business
1:17:33into exactly but I feel like you know I don't think Apple worries itself too
1:17:38much about other companies copying their designs I mean I'm sure it's annoying
1:17:41but at the same time it's gotta be flattering because everybody knows I
1:17:44want all these other things come out that looks so much like MacBooks that
1:17:47it's you know it's just emphasizes how is the market leader but at a certain
1:17:51point I feel like they're gonna wanna do something they can't do this this same
1:17:56color for ever and I feel like the spacecraft would totally work even if it
1:18:03was only for the MacBook Pro or something like that that would be back
1:18:08to the back to the Black MacBook extra $50 for spacecraft hey what did they
1:18:16charge extra for that
1:18:18yeah yeah I got that too I got that I didn't I switched from a PowerBook was
1:18:27it called the Magnitsky was it still the I was known as the MacBook and and laced
1:18:33with a black when they were plastic and they came out with a black one and it
1:18:37did look better I thought and they charge you extra 50 bucks yea yea I
1:18:41wouldn't I wasn't going to get the light one I just couldn't bring myself to get
1:18:45the white one but I switch from a PowerBook to that and it wasn't I wasn't
1:18:49happy with the plastic wasn't I mean it is much better when they switch to
1:18:54unibody plastic but the teams were going I think that the one of those cases
1:19:00where that's that's why some people hate Apple
1:19:03differ the color it is pretty bad is exactly it is right it's right
1:19:13teed up perfectly for that is what makes people go crazy about absolutely insane
1:19:23crazy they didn't charge extra for gold now now I think that they've kind of a
1:19:30result some people were speculating about that before you know it came out
1:19:34it's really hard to get ice I mean I think it's nonsense i cant im gonna link
1:19:38to it but I saw a story that somebody said that somebody sold a gold iPhone on
1:19:42eBay for $10,000 oh yeah yeah I mean that's crazy I mean you know I can see
1:19:47selling it for double the price to some moron who really has to just can't wait
1:19:52to get their hands on it but not $10,000 I can't be true it has to be fake but I
1:19:58don't know I read on the internet I would maybe I mean people bought that I
1:20:03am rich up there with the most that Apple could have gotten away charging
1:20:19for the gold iPhone is speculate imagine if they did they charge like five grand
1:20:30for it all is gold anodized comes to go yeah she be real gold in with the
1:20:40reception would be like that yeah be heavy to certainly made for some some
1:20:48great headlines to buy it when those were some of those Vertu phones are
1:20:57still vote Tuesday around the company that sells like $5000
1:21:01other cell phones and they've they've switched to Android finally they
1:21:07recently like Symbian like somebody took one apart and and it really literally
1:21:12was like inside like the leather and jewel embellished case it was like a $40
1:21:18Nokia Symbian somebody that's what they're saying that some people claim
1:21:27iPhones yesterday claimed but you know her $200 to make and they say that it's
1:21:34it's like a concierge service does a button you can hit you know talk to it
1:21:39if you have a ver too funny of a button and you can get like a ver 2 concierge
1:21:43and say hey I'm in Seattle tonight I want to get a dinner reservation that
1:21:49like a good run and then somehow they take care of it I don't know but it
1:21:56seems to me like you know there are other ways to get somebody to make a
1:22:00hotel reservation restaurant reservation for you then to buy a $4,000 you can get
1:22:06a free get the 101 table for free
1:22:12yeah it does you know there's a better way so yeah and I still have to send it
1:22:24back again December my review now they give you a full review unit and I you
1:22:33know what people laugh about that I was lots of treats like that they'll
1:22:36everybody was you know loved it I don't think it it's not a jokey joke pink it's
1:22:43not like no it's really not know it's not a little girls are really isn't I
1:22:49mean I could see you know that there would be no pink but it's not it's not
1:22:56as ridiculous as it yeah it's it's it's more like a salmon heroes yeah something
1:23:02like that it's not exist not pink pink yeah that's the other question whether
1:23:07you know again
1:23:08Apple's never going to tell us but we're gonna have to like eyeball it
1:23:12know as we just observe people but I'm curious to see which colors or are the
1:23:16most popular how the hell they're distributed the Greens pretty cool I
1:23:20would say I would have suspected the blue but I think the Greens gonna be
1:23:25popular released it really stands out and I don't know if it's just a
1:23:31coincidence or not but a lot of the ads I've seen so far are the green yeah so I
1:23:39don't know and I think I remember which ones were the ones that sold out yellow
1:23:48card do lol yeah but who knows maybe it was one of them but you have no way of
1:23:54knowing whether it's because they made the same number of all in the first or
1:23:58if Apple thought about this yellow we're gonna make fewer of them and then they
1:24:03saw so you don't know I mean Apple blackberry reported there you know it's
1:24:17not good when it's going to happen with them
1:24:19mister some crazy guy is going to buy the company apparently yeah which is
1:24:25just taking it as they're taking a breather taking private I guess I just
1:24:33feel like you know come down off the bike week long bender is on and wakes up
1:24:41he's going to go I did what I bought one and there was a rumor that what's his
1:24:47name was trying to buy it was already asserted yeah sorry this has redesigned
1:24:53I like my joke you know that his pitch his pitch to investors is the other guy
1:25:03was the problem
1:25:07where did they go where they go I don't know it seems like it seems like the
1:25:20point where they should have like like like where Nokia is now Nokia is like
1:25:24that they still have their pride they they may be could still stand alone but
1:25:28they're selling now like the time for grammar blackberry was like two or three
1:25:32years ago they need to decide the company like two years ago and now it's
1:25:39like nobody ran don't think anybody knows what to do with them before they
1:25:42did that whole thing with the PlayBook yeah there's themselves but the new
1:25:50Kindles
1:25:52should really look into that that much other than hearing about the May Day
1:25:57service yeah they look good
1:26:00it's kind of a weird thing I like where they didn't do an event but they are you
1:26:05know they had some like that big a deal
1:26:07yeah and they had some you know but they did have some embargoed reviewers in a
1:26:11date in a couple of interviews conducted in advance but then they had the embargo
1:26:16lifts at midnight Pacific or midnight eastern but either way kind of a weird
1:26:21time to lift the embargo like a lot of people are in bed and just seems weird I
1:26:27guess the strategy is then people wake up in the morning and it still at the
1:26:30top of the news because nothing else happened overnight but just seemed a
1:26:34little weird they look good but I don't know it I don't know you know I don't
1:26:42see many you know they've been out for a while I don't see very many candle fires
1:26:46out there in a while and once I do see tend to be the this you know the small
1:26:52one the one that people I think people thought like my guess is that they are
1:26:58you know pretty much but just to have a Kindle e-book reader that's in color
1:27:03right which is a totally credible product even though my disparaging it
1:27:08but it you know the ones I've seen over the years tended to be the small one
1:27:13and its people on airplanes using them to read books I assume that their books
1:27:18who knows what they're reading we see we see more out here we talked about this
1:27:28once before but he's to keep you up to Seattle it's a lot of money train you
1:27:36see more windows Tampa some of those people were were I've seen a few not a
1:27:47lot I sold are definitely see more deadly see more candles and it went on
1:27:58the train when I was commuting that it was I would see a fair number of them
1:28:01but I mean like I said some of those people were probably going to Amazon I I
1:28:07saw somebody at the airport was coming home from Portland last week who was
1:28:10right out of a Windows commercial and Windows tablet commercials she was using
1:28:14hers on her lap at the airport with the keyboard and typing away at a pace where
1:28:21I have to admit I could never achieve on an iPad personally know you know would
1:28:28seem to me like you know maybe she bought the right time I don't know why I
1:28:31hadn't seen that I don't see it almost seems like the announcements are
1:28:39half-hearted I got my saying that you know Kindle windows have given up on you
1:28:46know competing against the iPad but it you know the Kindle one this week you no
1:28:51no no event came at midnight you know hasn't made a big splash when Microsoft
1:28:57had a next gen surface announcement soon I did I was half asleep up there now
1:29:08given up we're doing another one we know you're not going to buy it
1:29:12Iran and Iraq I mean it's got to be a hard thing to do but spend all year
1:29:24making this thing that we know we really kinda know people are going to buy a
1:29:28switch the ads ads are now more products centric they got rid of the dancing
1:29:35which is definitely an improvement they're still not great ads but there
1:29:39but they're much better than the ones they had originally gonna spend on I saw
1:29:52that there was a story billion dollars there was a story that Motorola was
1:29:58gonna spend five hundred million dollars
1:29:58gonna spend five hundred million dollars
1:30:00there's an ad campaign for the Moto acts which is a lot of money and I think they
1:30:04said that Apple's budget the us-flagged billion a year or something like that
1:30:09but it's you know 500 million is roughly in the ballpark you know it's not
1:30:14samsung monte Samsung spent like 10 11 billion dollars a year on advertising
1:30:19but it'll be interesting to see how that goes I can't remember the last time I
1:30:26saw a Motorola campaign they seem to have given up yeah I haven't seen any of
1:30:32their hero everyone I know the radio anymore but it was well my wife listen
1:30:36to the radio and I frequently hear a Samsung in there although they spend the
1:30:43most time in there they spend up at like 10 1 like I think horace that he was the
1:30:47first guy the kind of point that out and that it's you know you know arguably you
1:30:52know nobody ever in this famously nobody ever really knows how to measure the
1:30:56effectiveness of advertising but it you know it does seem know that there
1:31:03they've they've spent so much money on advertising that competitors like HTC
1:31:08have they can't keep up because HTC can't spend that kind of money they
1:31:13don't have it right i dont have it and and they may also run think they run the
1:31:18gamut of outlets to seems like you have TV ads they've got stuff in the
1:31:24newspaper that good stuff and that on the radio
1:31:28whereas Apple just does I guess they do magazine ads to certainly does maybe
1:31:34i've seen maybe I've seen one in the newspaper from it like a big New York
1:31:39Times but anything they don't they don't do radio the May Day thing I guess
1:31:49that's the most interesting thing of all the other tablets has announced this
1:31:52week this feature we're all in all your new Kindle tablets come with a one
1:31:56button feature you hit it
1:31:57and their goal is that within 15 seconds or less
1:32:01you get a video chat with a customer support rep and you can see them and
1:32:07hear them and they can hear you but they don't see all they see is your screen
1:32:12and then they can like draw on your screen to show you how to do stuff or
1:32:16they can remotely take control it sounds fantastic for people who are nervous
1:32:25about technology I just it doesn't sound to me like something that can scale
1:32:29given the way that no matter what company I call for support if it's just
1:32:37a good old fashioned phone call I can't get on the phone with somebody sooner
1:32:40than three minutes
1:32:41China yeah it is to me a typical Jeff Bezos feature where it is it does sound
1:32:49crazy and it is about making customers happy which I have to say is you know
1:32:56certainly one of the you know the best things about Amazon is a company say
1:32:59what you want about their you know pricing and stuff like that in that what
1:33:03they do to markets that they enter but you know in terms of you know that they
1:33:07want their customers to be happy that's always been the case but like for
1:33:14example I don't think Apple ID I don't even think even if Apple one of the
1:33:17deepest far into its cash reserves as possible I don't know that they could be
1:33:21technically offer that creature for the iPad right they just sell too many men
1:33:28where where would you even find enough people people to answer the phone
1:33:32yeah I was just thinking about was wondering if those people who are those
1:33:36people are around here or I'd heard said read some stories about some of the
1:33:45support stuff that a lot of these companies that shipped overseas years
1:33:49ago coming back because the economy was gonna the point where so bad here that
1:33:54they can afford to bring some of the back but I don't know what I mean I
1:34:02still think that was a relatively small percentage of my wife she she had a
1:34:06problem with she's got a fax printer copier machine
1:34:11thing and she had a problem with it and she called to get technical support in
1:34:15that and it was that went to India so I still think that a lot of the percentage
1:34:22that one that came back from what one over is not that great a problem with my
1:34:27cable TV from the wonderful Comcast company this week where did we just
1:34:33stopped getting anything other than like three channels like the local ABC NBC
1:34:39CBS affiliates and you know we're supposed to get laid under channels and
1:34:44so I had called them and as a perfect example I mean it was like you know it
1:34:49wasn't a horrible experience but it I was on the phone for 15 minutes all told
1:34:53I mean it was at least three or four minutes before I got through the
1:34:55automated part where I had the answer stupid questions and then finally get
1:34:59connected to a person and i got connected to a person pretty sure she
1:35:03was not in the united states and she was very nice but she was you know a little
1:35:07bit of a communication problem
1:35:09terms of understand accents I think she's very nice and you know you know i
1:35:18i dont have been awhile since I called Comcast for any reason but she didn't
1:35:22ask what she says she was ok if I call you by your first name sir
1:35:26sure just that but she admits she was over bend over backwards to be nice but
1:35:32apparently all seated do is like hit a button and quote send a signal to to our
1:35:37cable cards in the back of our TV and then they just suddenly worked again it
1:35:42did not seem like it should have been on the phone 1520 minutes it was very long
1:35:48time for something that she said I'm sending the signal now can you get these
1:35:53channels and you know after she said those words that I started getting those
1:35:58channels it was instantaneous but I don't know why it took so long before
1:36:01she decided to send the signal or why they just don't send that signal all the
1:36:06time right now said that all the time just keep sending the signal
1:36:14that's a premium service that's well I and i should say I'm not naive I
1:36:19understand why it takes so long it's because you know it's very cost so much
1:36:23less to hire people in other countries like say India and you know only hire
1:36:29few of them and you make it harder to actually get one on the phone and do all
1:36:35these things but I i'm saying you know just seems like if you're really
1:36:39interested in customer service said something more like made it I'm kind of
1:36:44surprised that both AT&T and Verizon least in my experience use domestic call
1:36:50centres is it seems like they would have to employ a lot of people yeah seems
1:36:57like you've got so many people across the country on both of those networks I
1:37:02don't every time every time I talk to somebody call 3 o'clock in the morning
1:37:06maybe that's what they do is it possible that their union like somehow and
1:37:12heritage in somehow inherited from the old Bell a good question I saw any
1:37:22reducing the thing I was double what if the iPhone were stand-alone business how
1:37:27big would it be you'd be like the 17th biggest company in the fortune 500
1:37:31I thought it was interesting that in that list like still in the top ten you
1:37:35know by revenue both AT&T and Verizon and I know that Verizon is not just
1:37:41Verizon Wireless and in fact the Verizon Wireless which is what all of us think
1:37:46of anything brian is I co-owned between Verizon and t-mobile Europe and that
1:37:51Verizon is buying the other half of it out from t-mobile 420 billion dollars to
1:37:58you that's right but still fundamentally the you know they're they're two halves
1:38:04of the same funk what was once when we were kids the same phone company imagine
1:38:08and if they hadn't been broken up how be you know how AT&T would be
1:38:15very least it's interesting to me that they got split up and then a bunch of
1:38:21parts and then somehow like that liquid metal terminator they all came back
1:38:28together and they still haven't combined into one and you know that would never
1:38:32get approved an AT&T Verizon merger would never get approved now because
1:38:39didn't mean the AT&T tried to buy was it sprint or t-mobile t-mobile AT&T tried
1:38:45to buy one of them in and shot and even that got shot down there's no chance but
1:38:51you you know that they kinda want to that there there are yeah they're only
1:38:56reason they're only being held in part by federal regulators it's it's exactly
1:39:02as I do ha parts of the Terminator that just desperately want to read it all
1:39:07they can think of is all my god if we could combine imagine how much would you
1:39:10charge people per month for their cell phones I think my bill went down I am
1:39:20still going away for the first payment come through but it sounded it seems
1:39:25like from what they were saying the best I can't wait to get it you know when you
1:39:29get your your final bill from AT&T shot that's not gonna be did you know I
1:39:35remember last year was last year when I switch to Verizon and it was it took a
1:39:39while it was like five weeks later so I kind of forgot about it and I kinda done
1:39:43the math made news no expensive midday I guess the mail came i hearing me
1:39:47downstairs John and I was it was it was it is in terms of what a corporation can
1:40:05do to you and i know i guess you know I shouldn't complain I knew that I had a
1:40:08two-year contract and whatever but it is effectively like like a legal way for
1:40:14AT&T when you break off your relationship with them to just mail you
1:40:18a box and feces here is a massive bill for services
1:40:26you haven't used 45 you've already been done it's it's really is awful
1:40:35you can't buy a knock-on not enough country you can't terminally for you can
1:40:42just pay a trade for a verizon phone can you know you can do that on AT&T though
1:40:48I think so yes
1:40:51yeah which is weird and our way or the other one doesn't i think is Verizon
1:40:58this is like a little bit less nickel and dime me but a little bit more
1:41:02control yeah and it's the same way that they say they don't use SIM cards I mean
1:41:08they do for it but it's only for international roaming that you don't
1:41:11have a sim card you know it's like somehow you're you're identifier is
1:41:16built into the phone hardware and I don't think that the reason they stick
1:41:21with that is it gives them more control over the devices but I ran down my list
1:41:30for now I think we were the only thing was the IOC I was 7 motion sickness but
1:41:39well that's going to do that it's going to close the show make people sick I
1:41:46think that's pretty interesting so the idea here is that the there's a lot of
1:41:50people who now that they've upgraded to iOS 7 you know that the extra motion
1:41:54zooming in and out the parallax is making some people who are susceptible
1:42:01to motion sickness it's triggering it and they're they're feeling nauseous and
1:42:07I've gotten I've done that sort of fake you know there's that Star Wars ride on
1:42:12of this will have their star was right at disney world where you go into a box
1:42:16and they basically just shake the box around us are similarly simulate flying
1:42:20around and explain or something like that that made me sick because you're
1:42:25not really fly obviously it's not like I can do a roller coaster no problem is
1:42:30you're really moving but that thing actually thought I was gonna yeah I have
1:42:36said don't have that
1:42:38it seems to me like I think I i sympathize with everybody's affected and
1:42:45I and I i've seen a lot of stuff online I mean you read the comments and take
1:42:49those people who you know obviously are clearly not affected by this
1:42:55who their response when people you know to some of these articles is in these
1:42:58people should buy a different phone now that's that's pretty you're not really
1:43:03thinking this through this is this is a fixable problem the answer nobody is
1:43:08asking for Apple to take all these if you like them and I like a lot of them
1:43:12if you you know like these cool effects and transitions are not saying that they
1:43:15should take them out they just want a way to turn them off right you know and
1:43:20Apple already has some of that you can turn off the parallax but there's some
1:43:23of the zooming effects like when you go back to the home screen from a nap and
1:43:28icons flyin' you know people want that right to do so I i would cause I love
1:43:36the iPhone app on the iPhone all the time it would be if I would feel like
1:43:40Alex and clockwork orange if using my iPhone made me nauseated and my
1:43:45compelled to do this thing that makes me want to throw up
1:43:50beethoven playing around like i cant stop checking Twitter in my email on my
1:43:55phone but now I keep ranching and maybe better it may make it better on iphone 4
1:44:05to cause it's a little difficult under 45 heard mixed comments from Mike my
1:44:12readers and it's it's it is a very fun way like having big readership I during
1:44:17fire-bombed people in not having comments and people just email me a fun
1:44:20way to destroy to get a survey like I've got an email from people who are like
1:44:24you know i upgraded on my four and I can't believe I was really worried about
1:44:30it cause I saw these people say it was going to be slow I think it's great and
1:44:33then I got emails and other people like wow I upgraded to seven on my for
1:44:37and really regret it yeah I mean I probably would do it just to get the
1:44:44extra features I got an old doubles the first thing that I tested it on was
1:44:49called for in that they went to her for failing five but it's at some of it I
1:44:58think it takes well booed up to what about on the iPad you have an iPad I
1:45:06just put it on the iPad last night I got a third-generation iPad and when I first
1:45:12created to it was like oh my god I should not have done this but it's
1:45:18gotten it actually seems to have stabilized I'm not sure exactly what was
1:45:22going on in the background but it seems to be better and I really like the
1:45:25parallax on a bigger screen
1:45:27yes much more know it's much more noticeable that's more fun I think it's
1:45:33one of those stupid like anything that doesn't really give you a lot but I
1:45:41think it's pretty cool yeah I I'm in the middle of the road on it I'd stick with
1:45:45what I thought a month ago which was that I thought that you know all summer
1:45:50long using the beta is that on the iPad it was about a month behind the iPhone
1:45:55when the iPhone got to a certain point quality about a month later I was seven
1:46:00on the iPad reach that point and so I expected that they were gonna release it
1:46:04just for the iPhone at first to coincide with the new iPhone event two weeks ago
1:46:08and then in a month later next month October when they do the iPad then
1:46:13they'll release iOS 7 fry pan and I you know my saying should is maybe a strong
1:46:19word but I still think if they had done that it would probably would be in
1:46:21better shape and I would be surprised at all if 18 new iPads come in a couple of
1:46:27weeks that it were up to like let's I don't know if it's going to be 7.1 or
1:46:31just seven point zero point for something but some some update that
1:46:35isn't even out yet where it's you know smooth down as I noticed some things
1:46:40like where I'm switching just between male and Safari because I'm reading
1:46:44messages where I have linked links and I'm opening
1:46:47in Safari or sometimes it's real smooth and then sometimes when I switch it is
1:46:51like 3 45 seconds before the other app loads and I can't even hit you know even
1:46:57hitting the home button its whatever is going on there behind the scenes the
1:47:00whole system is is jammed up and I don't think I tried to switch the background
1:47:06wallpaper and I just like wasn't getting any response whatsoever
1:47:11only switched it and it seemed like ya David Bernard I saw posted a vine and
1:47:21wine at 6th limited to six seconds
1:47:24think so yeah so you have a limit of six seconds and the time it takes to change
1:47:29wallpaper was longer than divined so yeah and I thought that was pretty time
1:47:36so yeah but still it was also got to the point using it on my phone
1:47:43we're going back to 2006 was was jarring in its own way so you know picking up my
1:47:51iPad and seeing iOS 6 was like this anymore
1:47:55yeah I've moved on emotionally and I need to be on it devices yeah I don't
1:48:02know I'm part of it i think is that you said that the that the parallax seem
1:48:07small more noticeable on a bigger screen I think so yeah so it really makes to me
1:48:12the home screen on an updated iPad feel static
1:48:16feels like there's no life to it I see what you mean I grabbed it up I see what
1:48:24you mean about Samsung's history of gold clip found it's actually from Samsung
1:48:29themselves it's a Samsung Samsung tomorrow I'll post this to the Schonert
1:48:38it's the golden history of Samsung phones an editorial from Samsung
1:48:44so that it's interesting that it comes from Samsung because it's you know it's
1:48:51like I wonder why they posted this
1:48:54yeah why would you do that I could see the need to defend her decision to put
1:48:59out a new gold zone right john wants thank you for joining the show