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00:03:53 ◼ ► actually pretty no not that bad experience never very few bugs I ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/233">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► into that were serious problems every once in awhile they'd be like a virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/237">TS</a>]
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00:04:16 ◼ ► you know so annoying but it was the United but I felt like having my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/256">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► still running the standard 10.8 whatever you know standard all summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/261">TS</a>]
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00:05:02 ◼ ► reads into everything way too deeply and usually if they're gonna tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/302">TS</a>]
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00:05:10 ◼ ► really clear this one was it says we still have a lot to cover some maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/310">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► they're not releasing new iPads and they're only releasing new Smart Covers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/318">TS</a>]
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00:05:47 ◼ ► one of its most important roles is to try to close the price gap with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/347">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► other you know crap tablets out there and they have a high end features they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/352">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► want to create in there like redness screens I i assume the track I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► there and probably have done it by now but try to achieve super low cost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/360">TS</a>]
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00:09:15 ◼ ► did then keeping the old one around for another year at a lower price but where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/555">TS</a>]
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00:09:30 ◼ ► having the cheap one be a little higher margin that was last year but if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/570">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► still cheaper I think part of the clues for that too is just as simple as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/574">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► pricing at 3:29 was such a slightly odd price for them you know usually they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/578">TS</a>]
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00:10:29 ◼ ► they raised the price and milked it I think that they took it took a hit on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/629">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► margin so that it wouldn't be 349 start that sounds about right but I'm having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/634">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► hard time even getting excited about this because you know for the last years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/640">TS</a>]
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00:10:53 ◼ ► iPad 3 as like games or sometimes reading so it's kind of like two iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/653">TS</a>]
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00:11:16 ◼ ► with AT&T get my house sucks Verizon so having both services available for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/676">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► tethering is awesome when you're traveling because the spot where one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/682">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► them sucks and and Verizon tends to be the better option for tether is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/686">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► the way more of the network is LTE and so Verizon's great for tethering but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/690">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► can use it for voice so it's really nice having the option for both carriers now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/694">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► I remember I've I guess when I have credit to the five and we switched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/700">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► phones to Verizon I we went all Verizon and there are some advantages to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/705">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► billing rise like there's like this family plan things so instead of paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► for my iPad data plan on the iPad it's I just added the device to our to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/713">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► Verizon has a thing we can do that and that's nice it actually saves us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/723">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► little bit of money I mean it's godly menominee to Verizon every month but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/727">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► it's it's cheaper than it would have been to just have the iPad independently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/732">TS</a>]
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00:12:21 ◼ ► train to between Philly New York there's dead spots for both but you could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/741">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► know I would like tether most of the way on Verizon then when it dropped out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/747">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► drop off the tethering and see if AT&T are usually you can get at least one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/753">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► only when you have both it's it's it's very becomes very clear that neither [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/760">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► network is overall better than the other like they both have dropped spots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/764">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► and crappy areas used a slightly different and you know it could just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/770">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► right where the antenna is you know there are certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/775">TS</a>]
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00:13:01 ◼ ► good signal and same hotel I guess maybe I always get twisted around in a hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/781">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► but on the other side of the building and I don't get a good signal in my town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/786">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► is very hilly hills and CNN radio signals do not get along but on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/793">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► our town hall there's an AT&T tower and I can actually like there's a window in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/798">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► my house from which I can just barely see my line of sight to the AT&T a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/804">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► antenna so the 80 covers of town fantastically and I guess rise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/808">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► didn't make a deal so they don't and it doesn't matter but anyway so I am having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/814">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► a hard time getting sad about the iPad because I've kind of stopped using iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► to love who use them like for work and and I've just never really gotten never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/823">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► crossed that that liner or gotten into that pattern I guess depends on what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/830">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► do some days I do a lot of reading them and some days it is involved in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/836">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► three things Mac iPhone iPad I do not a day goes by round not using my Mac well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/842">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► I guess like a family vacation or something that i guess i phone is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/848">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► Mac I use every day that a quote working iPad who knows I get an offer I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/852">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► it's worth it I think it was worth it well worth the purchase but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► it's clearly if I had to I had to leave one behind it was clearly whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/863">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► think I mean that same thing like part of that is why I like the many because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/867">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► at least smaller and lighter so it's like if I'm trying to make a bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/872">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► reasonably light to carry somewhere like it's not that big of a deal but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/876">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► know I mean like I can totally understand the market for these giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► screen phones because ideally like if Apple made a bigger screen iPhone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/886">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► don't most certainly get it for myself because I i do more of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/891">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► people do i do so much of that just on my phone with everything else yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/895">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► around then that I think I would you know I wouldn't miss the extra pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/899">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► space you know who cares a big pants and even for like you know like ebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/903">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► paper reading that sort of thing something that's a big ass that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/909">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► to me as were the biggest fans really shine I think I mean maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/915">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► certainly but maybe the problem here the reason why haven't used iPads for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/919">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► last year for the most part is that I don't want to read on the meaning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/924">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► screen sucks and the big one like now that I had this point of comparison of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/928">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► the many the big one feels so giant heavy it just feels ridiculous maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/933">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► retina many will change things I don't get too excited about our enemy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/939">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► I almost for so long I felt like if it took all the other iOS devices two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/944">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► to go from nan Ren and take it'll take the iPad Mini to you at least two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/949">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► to but maybe you know your sample size right it's not very big and it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/955">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► one of those things to wear just the you know the just the way that the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/960">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► industry everything goes forward so much faster that you know that like just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/964">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► same not just the the screen itself but like they're the improvement necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/968">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► improvement to the GPU comes faster to you know that it's not that surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/972">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► that it's just one year later also you know look at when the iPhone 4 with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/977">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► with the first Retina screen when that was launched look at the landscape of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► what everyone else had a you know everyone else had low resolution screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/985">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► for a relatively speaking right they were ahead of the curve for now all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/988">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► these cheap tablets have really high resolution screens that we had that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/992">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► pretty sure all the more dense enough they could be quote retina screens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/996">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► an iPad Mini is like the only one that doesn't happen at this point and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/999">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► other thing too is that the difference between retina and on rent is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► dramatic I mean I know that there I've heard from a handful of people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► like you know I really don't see that big difference and I honestly think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► did they must be visually impaired and mentally affair but it's a rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► opportunity if they wanted to keep the old if they're ever gonna switch to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► model where they have a lower price point and but want to make this a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► people who could afford who's who who aren't overly price-sensitive still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► splurge on the higher higher priced higher margin lines margin red numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► is non renders the moment to do that but I don't think I don't think there will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► ever be a feature that's that easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► Oh I see I see exactly what this featured us right there in the store I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► think also you can look at how retina is scaling up you know with the phone it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► was basically free you know because the the amount of data the size of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► screen buffer you know becoming four times larger on a phone size screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► was less of a big deal and so yeah the GPU had to get better but phone reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► are kind of in that line anyway then you saw it moved to the iPad size that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► are substantial tradeoffs and still am in with you know who announced next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► but still there are you know even the best retina iPad today is big and heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► and is noticeably bigger and heavier than the comparable iPad that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► the iPad 2 and then you look at the laptops and they have these retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► MacBook Pros which are basically MacBook Airs but they need way more power than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► MacBook way more battery power in the MacBook Air and so obviously like as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► multiplying the number of pixels you doing with my for matters more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► and takes more horsepower and and is an exponential I don't know if it's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► least it's it's at least a matt is working against you here and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► possible that you know at the iPad size maybe they just like at the phone they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► can just kinda make them already and be fine as you get up scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1135">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► you can't do that yet maybe you know maybe in three to five years it'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► be like you could fit a Retina screen and some of the size of the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► with no battery problems but I don't think we're there yet and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► still a couple years off yeah I think there's a there's a contingent of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► who always complain and I love them because I do like I love a dent but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► don't know it might not be the best word to mispronounce it had a pronounced I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► thought it was but who knows I I really don't know we should both mispronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► it just just to anger them identical say pedantic so I love and all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► years writing about you know right numbers these devices move whenever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► say that renders double the resolution there's a contingent people's houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► four times the resolution because they're they're talking about area as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► opposed to write that it's you know four times the pixels so you should say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► four times the resolution and I've always stuck to double because to me by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► their logic doubling the resolution would just be sort of incremental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► increase you know like to me yes but and I was feeling better to downplay the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► marketing he's aspect of it you know that if I say it four times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► resolution it's gonna seem like catering to Apple's wishes you know right from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► the get way more angry emails from about saying that the new rising twice the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► resolution but I think but I think it's useful to keep that in mind when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► think about things like the graphics card and the power consumption you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► really are lighting up four times more pixels so really might be four times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► energy consumption you know it from an engineering perspective in a lot of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► it does make sense to think of it as a for tax increase not a two X increase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► really all the costs go up for X Ray you know that you're not the backlight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► Sara Lee goes up some but not for experts still so many other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► the Rams all the pics of the GPU has to be pushing in rendering and certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► all the little transistors in the actual pixels there's more of those so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► basically assume it's four times as expensive to supported hardware wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► even now a year and a half after the the iPad first when it still is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► blows my mind that a device that never really operated while it's plugged in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► power is pushing that many pixels at 60 frames per second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► yeah I mean even look at look at the 15 MacBook Pro and that has a higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► resolution than my 30 X desktop monitor which I cannot wait until they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► every podcast I'm on I'm going to wish for a Retina display until it happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► be my team under TV thats let's hold off on that instinct iPad because the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► thing now I know I think the other other product i mean you have to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► but it's when I am finding the hardest to get excited about is the regular iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► case study however I think that they're still the best selling models I do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► that would be news I think I don't know how I'd be curious to know that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► anyone from the numbers I think that they still are but it's hard to tell how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► many and and some of that is just from me eyeballing you know but people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► using on airplanes and stuff like that I would you know I don't know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► how you would break that down too hard but I hear from people that that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► a ton of iPad 2 still being so special education because it's big and cheap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► assuming they killed the iPad 2 this year which I hope they do it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► around for quite a while I'm getting a little tired of supporting a fives but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► assuming they kill that then what replaces it at that price point or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► does that become the retina many later the health education people just by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► many and you can choose between the cheap one of the retina one I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► it'll be a big it'll be a big tell as to how well that iPad 2 did continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► sell if they keep a big sized iPad at that price price whether it's the iPad 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► dropped in price or whether they actually still keep the iPad 2 around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► another year it would be a sign of how well it's selling I think so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► there's two big things I can think of to get excited about with the full-size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► iPad one is that I i you know I know that they've been leaks of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► the case hardware case that is now a lot more like a big it's a big iPad Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► which sounds stupid but you know the Bible on the side is is narrow and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► that same Kirby sort of thing I can't help it is going to be a lot thinner too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► and it's hoped lighter you know that they've you know because the screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► still gonna be the same that they can can pack everything into a smaller thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► and get it back to like an iPad 2 weight thickness and I think that'd be exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► to be a dramatic you know percentage wise it may be measured in millimeters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► but percentage wise it could be a lot better I think apple also do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► they want to capture that the margins of the high-end buyers the early adopters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► the nerds the power users they want to get them back behind because they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► get a lot more money and we all bought the many this past year because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► new and awesome and you know tiny so I think they're gonna do some segmentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► there for instance obviously if you look at the economics of the many pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► it's not gonna have the a seven so it doesn't have the a seven it's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► have to Shady and so I'm guessing if they bring to the iPad which I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► actually think it's a guarantee quite yet but if they do protection to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► iPad this year I would say it will be only in the big one and that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1495">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► kind of a way to end of course there were only seven the big one or the use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► of an ex probably and in the end in the many will still only have the A six acts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► that currently powering up at 4 °c that's how I would would bet that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► gonna play out that you know but again it's like you said earlier it's a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► sample size to drawn to look at last year's iPad Mini and you know where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► annual chain of you know a whatever processors you know last year was a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► behind it was still on retina are not read it might be dangerous to us to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► that one year of iPad Mini and extrapolate from that but I still that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► what I would bet that look at the iPod Touch also had a product has always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► the low-cost phone size thing and you can think of the many as the low cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► iPad size thing and and the iPod Touch always has like last year CPU right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► it has two years ago CPU because they didn't they didn't remember all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► weekend although we get to that that's another one of my items to speculate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► next week is well then maybe you know they do new iPods and maybe instead you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► know maybe the fact that they didn't appear alongside the iPhone at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► quote-unquote music event you know I'm guessing no because they still did call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► that the music event and it would seem weird for Apple marketing wise to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► the music event without the iPods and then have the iPod come out five weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► later but on the other hand how much does an iPod Touch really have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► yeah it's a good question and it's kind of more like an iPad iPad yeah I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► see them going into a holiday season without new iPod touches but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► know they could surprise us to drop the price is a little bit of the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► ones I think touch I D for the full-size iPad I think I'm gonna bet yes they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► you know that the new full-size iPad is gonna get an A seven of some sort and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► if it's gonna have the hd7 it seems like why not put the touch Center in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► unless they're really supply constraint on those touch centers which I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► know I mean it's one of those things where it you know Tim Cook in like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► other people but but I think though that the full-size iPad I think so far has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► in parallel to the top of the line iPhone in terms of major advances lol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► didn't get serious first but thats that was more of a software thing that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► something more serious being beta server load reasons I love starting out on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► brand new iPhone is probably not an easy way and for surfers it's not like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► but one reason for me and I know a lot of readers of Daraa far above like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► random email me or treated me the same exact thing which is that they bought an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► iPhone 5s and within like 48 hours every time they go to unlock their iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► they're just holding their own thing and they're like hey what's going on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► then they realized oh and so democratic decisions based on experience like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► but you know within Apple they've been using you know that the iPhone 5s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► internally for a while and then surely had the same experience inside Apple you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► know that hey now that i unlock my phone this way I can get used to not unlike my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► phone this way and so I don't know I feel like it's addictive enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► that it would might push them to put it in the first year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► yeah I'd say it'll probably be there but I wouldn't say it's a sure thing I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► also bet though that however few and I know they said it was more than half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► all smartphones don't have a passcode I don't know I can't even imagine what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► percentage of iPad passcode is enforced you know it's you know there's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► some logic behind that you're a lot less likely to let you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► leave a bigger thing behind in a cab or something like that you know it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► know phone could fall out of a pocket theory and i've had is a lot less likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► to fall out of your pocket but you know it's you know when I travel I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► have to remember to keep it at home I turn the passcode off but then when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► I think I think you know you don't do that on my iPad usually well I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► what could possibly happen to this thing that I leave in my hotel room when I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► out all day but the matter of fact that might be worth considering I wish I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► said this before I wish the day would do something where you could you could name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► a safe WiFi network and that when when you're on this WiFi network prompt for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► the passcode the first time since you know you were away from it out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► range of this wifi so the first time you saw it could just be found you leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► house to go somewhere you come home you need to unlock your phone because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► just came home and then in till you leave that wi-fi network just a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► actually really good you think about all the different ways that could fail or be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► hacked and and making it prompt the first time you join a tour like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► time you rejoin a network I think it's pretty solid right because that way if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► somebody stole your iPhone but then stood outside the front door of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► house it wouldn't automatically unlock I think the problem is like when when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► phones in your pocket for an hour and you don't even take it out all pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► short description your wi-fi network yes I might be that that might be the killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► might be you know maybe just tryin to wifi might be wrong I might just be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► you know the basic location services then and even if it falls to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1852">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► wider geofence the low you know we've been to the phones been sleeping for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► while and it gets a little sloppy here in terms of the precision of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► geofence to keep the battery you know from from training too fast even that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► might be close enough other problem is like how annoying would it be if every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► time you took your phone in your pocket you have to like kind of think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► like it if it becomes like you have to unlock it a quarter of the time instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► of most of the time I that's that's a little weird yeah and maybe that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► maybe I'm overthinking it to now that such ideas maybe touch ideas the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► is pretty tidy Center in and then you don't have to worry I don't know why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► stopped I find touch I D a little bit too much effort to be convenient like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► what I'm like I use it when I went to singleton which all the cool people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► are at a used it when he went there and for the first time in and it worked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► great but as soon as I got in the car to drive home I turned it off I really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► is you know I guess I was using my phone to play podcast in the car using my new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► podcast and almost works and it's always fun using a beta app while driving but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► yeah and like even just you know just common things in my phone to like to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► something quick in the air like stopped at a rest stop it was so inconvenient to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► have to unlock it every single time that it was not worth it so you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► keep your phone only 10 now I'm only doing it like when I'm out at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► conferences on because normally like I'm at my house all day you know i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► myself and the people at the deli there's there's not much I'm one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► those like compulsive pocket people that like I never leave my phone or my wallet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► on the table anywhere I I never even take them out really like when I'm out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► my phone on my wall my keys stay in my pockets either either in pocket or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► hand at all times right like it's never it never out of my physical possession [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► and yes somebody could pick pocket me in New York but I don't live in the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► I'll only go to the city like once every three months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► like I'm hardly ever even in the sea and you know so I can I travel to the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► I'll turn it on but day-to-day life I'm sitting in my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► really need to constantly be unlock my phone me take a break here today about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► good friends back place not to be confused with glass damage wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► show why I said black base I forget what it was but whatever i mispronounced it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► ends up that Backblaze had registered that you are you sure it's not back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► what do they do it is unlimited on throttled back up for your Mac for $5 a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► month which is ridiculous price what can you do once you started using it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► access all of your computer's backed up data anywhere with their iOS app and web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► interface so in other words you backup your stuff with Backblaze you're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► take out your iPhone app you can get to everything on your computer you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► restore when you need to one file at a time or all your files easily so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► I one file you needed to root out how to get it back you can use back please just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► to get that file back and I had done that really good like you'd like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► like I forgot a spreadsheet on vacation house out somewhere and you'll get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► spreadsheet of my computer it wasn't in Dropbox or anything and so I just I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► to back down with a just that one file it works great if you drop your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► into toilet or something like that trash the whole hard drive water leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► somewhere that somebody steals your MacBook you need to restore everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► hard drive failure of course probably the most common reason we back up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► can restore everything easily founded by Acts Apple engineers and I i that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► good talking point because to me that soon as you say that to me that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► okay their Mac software is gonna be legit or not installing some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► janky thing written by people who'd mostly right windows it's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► Mavericks ready so that also tells you just how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► Apple friendly arm there's no add-ons no gimmicks no additional charges just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► simple deal you pay $5 a month per computer and you get unlimited on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► throttled back up it's super simple easy to use and install it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► everything is automatic out where to go I am giving the URL that would help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► www Backblaze dot com slash daring fireball that's the other thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► memorable Backblaze their code for this show is daring fire ball as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► the talk show her talk show you don't don't don't miss out on that where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► came from here that's good that avoids the ambiguity of whether that included [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► exactly I don't like to put the sponsors down you don't put in their code I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► do that their sponsor I thank them you know I don't care what they think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► the code is still read it but if you do put I like to the company for attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► to detail yeah backpage.com / viable so as for next week I think Brett Ratner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► the mini in a new smaller thinner case for the big one and maybe touch you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► I don't even I don't even expect the big 12 get that much lighter because it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► really large Retina screen it's going to have a high-powered CPU with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► high-powered GPU I'm guessing it's probably gonna be smaller like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► physically smaller but I've been talking to me that much lighter cuz it most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► that weight is the battery will see I don't know it certainly would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► polite to focus on that and I would love to see it happen is when the luxury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► proven wrong on that has got to be some Mac news next week to I expected very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► for Iggy was called up by Tim cocked his to rehash you know what's new in iOS 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► and here's you know the eight or ten features of the day that was most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► important any kind of rent a room in about 10 minutes I would expect the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► thing with maverick's where they're going to 48 you know and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► good marketing you repeat your message and I think but I think it's mostly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► know here's everything they told us about back at WBC they gonna tell it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► us again more concisely I definitely expect that and I expect you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► clearly I mean I did since they've already shifted something called the GIM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► to developers it it's probably coming soon enough it's gonna be released next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► week but if not next week I would expect a week later at the latest surprise me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► if they cause the events were back on Tuesday or Wednesday private available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► Friday yeah that's what I'm thinking that's probably my guess is the event is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► Tuesday and then Friday it hits the App Store right for people to buy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► download is there he told developers to submit their apps like almost a week ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► now and so i i that that to me says this is it they give you about a week they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► say submit your apps in the App Store with the GMs TK today and a week later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► it comes out yeah that's what i said im guessing they're right on Friday the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► 25th yeah yeah that's my bet I can't help but think since they also at WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► pre announced the Mac Pro and said it was coming this year I can't help but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► think it's going to be it's gonna be at the next week and whether it goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► sale immediately or you know I'm guessing the Mac Pro is never gonna run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► 10.8 it's you know they don't that's usually when they release hardware and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► new OS at the same time the hardware's tied to that s so I don't know if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► you know immediately after the show is over or like in a couple of days but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► expected the new Mac Pro gonna go on sale and weirdly they did just released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► new iMacs like not that long ago that didn't come with 10.9 obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► right was a little bit odd timing on that yeah I guess you know I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► there's always a fine line to balance between you know what they want to hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► an event and what they want to just release as it ready I wonder if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► the the MacBook Air being released in June that probably has a lot to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► back-to-school buying and this is the iMac being released like a month ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► whenever that was wonderful has to do with like school budgets or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► like that maybe but I was always under the impression that schools especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► like Kate well do most of their purchasing in like April and May for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► next year that is it it's a months in advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► sort of before the summer break and that did the if there was any product that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► was sort of two timed to that schedule was the old iPads the first couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► where they would come out in April that that was education by side are now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► on the other hand i think thats institutional education there's also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► back-to-school angle of hate you know my 18 year olds going to college and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► needs a computer but I think like you know the the airtime well for that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► yeah I think so too and I think the percentage of college students today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► going with like an iMac style desktop computers gotta be like single digits I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► think oh yeah I think everyone has laptops even when I was in college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► twelve years ago ten thirteen years ago when I was in college forever ago I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► one of the people they were the desktop I mean that and that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► forever ago it's only been going more and more laptop heavy since then so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► think they'd be weird if you stop today I think it would be weird then I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► maybe the IB IMAX coming out when they did was just a factor of that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► it's just a speedbump nothing new as they came out they were announced at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► last year's October event the right the one that was instituted in san Jose has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► also been staging out the new CPU releases they came out pretty soon after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► the CPUs were available from intel uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► and so maybe I mean it looks like the entire about might just be being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► detained by the low voltage CPUs and in the desktop CPUs and and the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► like the CPU that the Mac Pro is going to use are not out yet for anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► but you can't buy a workstation from Dell with the CPU today so it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► we brought everything just waiting on that here's a big one tied to the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► Pro and I know you you you guys spoke about it on accident Dec prop podcast a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► couple times everybody's talking about 04 case and misplace your just mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► it earlier in this show I think they've gotta do it I do I mean I guess got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► is maybe a little strong but I really I can't help it if they're gonna come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► with this fancy new Mac Pro and and spend the time to make all commercials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► foreign stuff and and go with Syracuse en you know it's the race car in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► lineup right and it's capable of driving 34 K this blaze at the same time why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► wouldn't they wanna sell a fork a display then to be one of them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► the fork a display you hook up to it even if it's ungodly expensive because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► they they that's the thing is I think that they're going with the Mac Pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► it's really they're putting the pro back and pro where it really is you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► can charge a lot more because they've got these consumer level products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► are a lot lower price and her great right the iMac is a great desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► computer as a beautiful display and the MacBook Air is a great laptop and has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► good display so they can charge a lot more of some sort of premium for devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► with Retina displays and you know if you think well I don't know what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► think like a fork a Apple Cinema Display might run man it will depend on the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► of the density to you know if if they just took the the 27 inch approximate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► size like what they saw now give that for a resolution and I think it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► pretty close to read you know it's not quite it's not a doubling of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► display today but it's it's like it's near doubling yeah there's another thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► since we would have to be bigger than just like the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► laptops they can call it written by by just fudging the distance of where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► riser from the device I think that a right now and I don't you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► by their definition of what read the means I think that's actually not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► marketing trickery I think it's fair you know people stand tend to be about an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► arms length away from a desktop display right so I i think if I mean you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► look there already are a few for his place in the market today and most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► them are like 32 inch size like they're they're bigger if Apple's able to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► good panel deals and is able to make a 27 @ Fourcade resolution first of all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► buy it in a heartbeat by two of them got knows second of all I would guess that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► $3,000 display and that's that's why I think they probably won't do it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► see i think maybe why not why not well if you look historically when when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► original 30 inch Cinema Display came out I believe that the initial price for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► $3500 it was over 3,000 and and that was a 2005 or something it was a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► ago but that was back when Apple was still like Apple could release a $3,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► monitor and nobody would care but Apple's different company today you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► not not entirely different but everything they sell is under is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► designed much more for the mass market and is under much more scrutiny and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► they try to bring those prices the entry prices down over time and so you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► you could really good argument that maybe they won't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► desktop display at $3,000 maybe those who wait until that can be 1200 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► and do it that certainly not this year it's possible but I thought I tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► think no I guess I think the whole idea of the Mac Pro is I would have been more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► amenable to that argument before they unveiled the Mac Pro WBC because the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► Mac Pro to me says we're serious about selling really expensive high-end stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2754">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► I could see that for the Mac the professional Mac market I think but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► we'll be telling also if for some reason at the event they announced new Retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► MacBook Pros but they don't announce a new cinema display for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► the reason I think it will be interesting to see I would assume the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► new Retina MacBook Pro still available to ports and you can look at the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► and it's wonderful to is the update the Thunderbolt that's fast enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► support resolutions like for case 1 can't and or at least not in a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► frame rate so the Mac Pro there's there's good reasons for that to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► the normal to that are intimate you can argue that Matt cruisers might be using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► those ports for future like high-end RAID arrays and account but kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► replaced with Fibre Channel cards and stuff like that leaking a high-end I O [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► there's a lot less of a need for that on a modern retina MacBook Pro and a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► laptop unless the main reason the nobel too is there is to drive giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2813">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► displays and that so I think if the laptop comes out with unable to port I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► think right now displays are not that far behind ya I would like to see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► you think we're going to eat new MacBook Pros yet as we I mean it does nothing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► Tilden release those CPUs yet in June so I think it's one of the reasons we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► didn't see it then but I'm guessing we see my ideal scenario is I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► about the iPad they can do whatever they want my deal to me that's about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► ideal scenario for for what we get next week is random a probe date with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► honorable to Mac Pro announcement like price and ship date and you can go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► pre-order it now even if I can get it immediately and retina displays released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► at the same time with them that would be my ideal event however if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► where the technology is for this reason is pleased with the pricing is where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► economics work out for the giant panels I i dont im not that confident to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► them this year I think we might still be another year out of there so I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► that the chances of getting a religious player like 50 percent maybe not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► great chances I just put it higher than two out of three chances that they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► out with a new four cases and it might be better but it probably would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► three thousand dollars each year thing is if they make like a third like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► that is kind of too big to be written out that resolution so they'd have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► get it might have to use a 27 inch size of that resolution to really get that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► be meaningful we'll see what happens I would I really hope I'm proven wrong on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► almost everything I just said just because I'm improving things fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► conservatively in that regard and I'd love to be proven wrong on that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► about iPods III I could see them releasing new iPods but I N O two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► ago they didn't they went two years without refreshing and even if it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► here's just a basic idea just just just throw a wild card is what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► something that's more like an iPod Nano but actually running iOS that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► interesting I mean you can kind of argue that they they almost like accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► created the smart watch movement buying old nano just happened to be watch sized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► kind of and having a wrist strap that somebody making Kickstarter like he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► kind of argue like that that would be an interesting way to get into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► wearables area that everyone's talking about right like I was some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► smart watches that have come out it's like I forget which one it said it about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► that it's like if you're not more elegant and look better on the wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► then and two-year-old iPod Nano that was never designed to be worn as a watch on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► your wrist then you've got a problem if you designing a product that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► specifically a watch I hurt my eyes with the one thing the reason I would like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► iPod Nano that runs iOS is for one thing and one thing only and that podcasts as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► I would like to be able to just set up an iPod nano sized then and just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► that be the only place where I manage my podcasts or in theory like a few you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► know if a really running I wish you could have afternoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► than somebody like say you could come out with a version of your app that ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► on that to sync between the front sinking would be great if multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► versions of a podcast at but all I want is an iPod that automatically without me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► plugging it in there anything other than occasionally charging it just is up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► date with podcasts I i think first of all I did was a big issue with battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► life on a watch and so I don't think we're anywhere near running a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► full-featured OS like iOS on a watch list I think that the display is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► I mean I probably but also radios would be a power grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► so I think of Apple goes into the watch area whether it's with just like kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► a boosted up now or whether it's a separate product I think if they go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► the watch area I think it's just gonna be like a satellite device for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► phone for your iPhone or right and I say iOS and could be that it's just more iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► like still running the the pic so wherever that is the thing that the iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► still run but has some more features like that like maybe instead of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3103">TS</a>]
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00:52:17 ◼ ► release a watch it I think it's pretty obvious that bluetooth for low-energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► medication protocol and it might even be its only radio and if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► like what would make an awesome SmartWatch you can argue you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► case you go outside and exercise right I do sometimes ok I'm not familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► that world and a lot of people do that a lot of people don't bring their phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► because they want to drop them or damage them or the you know that's sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► clothes don't really have deep secure pockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3161">TS</a>]
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00:52:49 ◼ ► running shorts are terrible it's safe so there's that market of you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► who want to exercise you don't want to have their phone on them and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► obviously a SmartWatch in that kind of context would be less useful though I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► describing it but you know I think Apple's whole thing with the digital hub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► the Mac being the digital her back and a fifty years ago now whatever that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► the thing is that was a great idea and that was crushed the time overall though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► now special the modern era that that was correct but the digital home is now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3195">TS</a>]
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00:53:32 ◼ ► know my theory is always been you know people ask me if I'm gonna do like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► stitcher popular client they they go work with all the car manufacturers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► try to get car integration for stitcher so that you can like runs that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► like a right on your head unit or have your phone like plug into your car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► everything and I i think the market for that is pretty limited and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► not it's a great use of effort because ultimately like the best way to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► to podcast in your car is to is to use a phone that can play audio over Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► and have your car you know a lot of cars are getting Bluetooth filtering down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► pretty well and even lower end models and so like the audio in the car problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► is now being solved and it's just your phone planes have a bluetooth Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► and the cars same way to car manufacturers try to put internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► connectivity in the cars and and really the best way to do to suggest having on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► your phone and maybe at best have your cart with your phone you know that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► be able to go there in the future but ultimately the phone is the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► everything now it's it's very you have the data connection I don't think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► gonna see a future where everything has donated radio I think that I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► carriers gonna lock that worldwide pretty effectively or make it really in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► feasible economically for customers wait we're gonna make me happy like a billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► devices that you don't all have their own salary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► the connections like I don't think we're going to see that for a long time if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► ever you know ultimately I think again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► everything's going through the phone right now that's the way to do it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► really powerful it's very it's that's where the market is that that's what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► market is doing whether whether it's technologically ideal are conceptually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► ideal that the market is doing so for a SmartWatch to just be a phone accessory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► basically to be a window into the data on your phone and 40 use all the radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► on your phone except for the one super low power Bluetooth le one you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► would have itself like a wash with GPS that would never work as the batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► are way too small so you can look at all that stuff I think a watch that any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► smart watch it comes out in a couple years actually good is probably gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► have that kind of design and so whether Apple's gonna have like your own podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3336">TS</a>]
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00:55:45 ◼ ► podcast on your phone and play it through your watch if that's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► really want or you just gonna ignore that capability just play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► headphones in your focal I don't know I just can't help but think that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► gotta be a way for the thing and you know i i in this is really pushing it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► say that what if it was really more like a full iPod Touch but just shrunk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► that Nana size and it had WiFi too that would it would make it work it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► make it usable with iTunes Radia I mean you know who knows is iTunes radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► something they see is that important that they would engineer the devices to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► be able to support it i I don't know but it just sounds good question it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► seems to me though that like maybe we collectively of all sort of taking your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► eyes off the iPod line up in terms of the potential for future improvements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► and that there you know you couldn't make it much smaller right that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► iPod Nano if your gonna put a screen on the device there's not much room there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► for you no more than a finger already so small that you kind of wish it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► bigger easier to use and be less likely to lose it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► my iPod Nano is literally as I speak it's been lost for like four days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► hopefully here in my office but but I feel like me now that they've shrunk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► the size now they can use advances in technology and battery life and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► like that take get it to do more on software maybe put some little antennas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► in there and i just i just some dispute by maybe I just don't see it happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► radios are so power hungry and watches are so small at like there to make it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► mean like you have a pebble have you seen what I do have the people it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► ridiculously big eight when you see on somebody's rest unless they like a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► football Blair it looks like it's it's like the modern calculator watch it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► actually have Iranian my hand as I speak it in its its big but it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► actually are a lot bigger watches on the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► men's wristwatches the trend over the last couple of years has been to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► bigger and some of them are actually preposterous Liebig way bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► people so it's not just size alone but if you just go and look at like just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► to the mall and look at like watched or just look at a jewelry store and look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► some of the men's watches you'll see some that are really pretty a lot bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► than people but it looks it doesn't sit right on the wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► you know the ones that are real big hard you know watches as jewelry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► their big for the you know there purposefully big it's not that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► couldn't make them smaller it's you know it's showing off this watch you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► it's Jory whereas the pebble is is just big I don't think it's possible to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► a smart watch that doesn't take a SmartWatch that looks as nice fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► wise as like a jewellery watch I know in some ways because jewelry watches are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► made of materials like stainless steel or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► even higher and gold and I guess you could make one out of that could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► smart watch with you know when I go you know shirley Apple works a lot with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► aluminum that has more refined italic appearance but it's one of the things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► wish you call it a wide is one of the reasons round Hassan el what if what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► they really pushed the the borders on what we think an iPod can do I can iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► nano and iPod touch and iPad now is has been the way that I've been sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► thinking in my head of what could this so-called I watched it is what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► difference other than whether it's on a strap that goes on your roster not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► we're talking about our little roughly incised peripherals to your iPhone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► the same thing and so what do you know why not make one that doesn't even have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► a strap that you click on to people who don't want to work on the wrist or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► whatever I think the problem was calling it a watch in particular and then to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► if they came out with a thin it was just called the the new iPod nano and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► it has all of these or or some of these SmartWatch style integration Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► back and forth features makes a lot more sense marketing wise cuz you can sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3608">TS</a>]
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01:00:20 ◼ ► sell better than you know the two year old iPod Nano we have now cells whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► if they call it a watch it they run into this written really hard market because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3626">TS</a>]
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01:00:36 ◼ ► round 50 to $100 on the watch that's typical price for like a watch if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► just go to Amazon and search for watches you see a lot of watches the 50 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3642">TS</a>]
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01:01:16 ◼ ► the on the market at least in some people's minds I saw there are those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3676">TS</a>]
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01:01:31 ◼ ► thing with over two is that what the iPhone revealed with burt to virtue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3691">TS</a>]
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01:02:20 ◼ ► $50 watch from Amazon you know really is a nice now whether it's worth you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3740">TS</a>]
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01:02:53 ◼ ► could even compete in that high N watch market or do you mean because that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► be the wrong goal right because even though in a feeling it's different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3778">TS</a>]
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01:03:36 ◼ ► kind of iPod or even just call it iPod watch I don't know I mean that way even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/3816">TS</a>]
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01:16:15 ◼ ► right you don't like there's pretty much no you open the wrong and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► followed Chatterley that's because they thought of that and they they put their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► preventing you from doing a truly great right it is a deep it's clearly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► detail-oriented company oh yeah yeah I can see why they are so they know their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► audience that sounds cool you trust me I like it they really do a great job too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► great service so what else could they do next week gotta have some software right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► something's gotta be demoed you can't have a device without software to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► but they've already unveiled Iowa seven so yeah it looks to you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► obviously different on an iPad and iPhone but it's not that different so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► feel like they need apps to demo on the balcony with Mavericks are probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4615">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► I wonder about the match here so here's my thing I think they're going to do new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► iLife works for iOS and probably I work saps because they just made a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► over the fact that they're so they're the most popular mobile office apps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► I think they said in the keynote at EDC I think they said that an update to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► iLife iWork for the Mac was coming but they're still at the 09 and they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► old and I still use them all the time if it still works just fine but they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► could use an update to new features the only thing since 2009 is that iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► support really I mean I mean I'm sure there's a bug fixes and some minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► things but in terms of what you would actually think off the top of your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► it's just like lets the same features from the same number still has all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► same capabilities it had back then just plus I cloud that's it and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► could make if they did both iOS and Mac versions and it doesn't seem like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► you're asking for too much to hope that they did both but on the other hand it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► been so many years since the Mac version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► major revision it doesn't seem like you're asking for much I mean presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► there you know they still have full-time teams who work on the iWork Mac apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► they've gotta be have been working on something maybe this is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► problem that Microsoft has been with upgrade revenue an office like we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► had a meeting for work update since 2009 and it's not that big of a problem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► it doesn't like I still uses as I said you like numbers almost every day in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► keynote couple times a year and I would like two features but they still work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► just fine and I every time I use them I don't notice oh my god this is so old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► right where Microsoft Office being like every two or three years like trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► try to get people to pay for the upgrade is probably a nightmare that I that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► why they want to move to subscriptions to whereas the iOS versions look ancient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► because they look like iOS 6 apps right and you know as time goes on I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► think everybody agrees even people who don't like iOS 7 don't like the visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► direction they went I think even they have to acknowledge that the old App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► Store stick out like sore thumbs so that I feel like they almost have to have iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► versions of these apps are they even built with the seven SDK yet but do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► show the seven keyboard no I don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► like that that's the biggest problem going to eat five which doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► seven of the doubt yet like the keyboard if you're like if you look at all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► all the resource files and seven it includes a complete copy of the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► UI from six so it can run those apps like in their simulation mode for iOS 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► and it sucks because the keyboard is just so slightly different between six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► and seven in a few ways and enough that like once used to 12 typos and other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► I have definitely found it to be a case has not updated 47 now cos like anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► with text input because you use you hit a problem hard especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► trip I probably the one that I had the most in because it's probably the Arab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► where I type the most in a tablet keyboard whereas a lot of my other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► typing on iOS is in messages and email and they're obviously they're built into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► their updated so that's where I sort of acclimated to the new keyboard on safari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► you know typing in forms and so far and stuff like that so we put the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► really does scare me every time baby side that besides liking a Deming I work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► and maybe I'll I for the Mac and iOS I don't see it happening I mean like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► year the iPad event they've brought out something new that was it last year it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► was i photo was at the year before there was a GarageBand iPhoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► years I movie right I don't know what to do this year that regard for the iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► and maybe they maybe they have so much stuff in this event Lee if they if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► really are going organic ramen MacBook Pro Mac Pro Mavericks iPads maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► iPad 2 Smart watching a TV you know if they're gonna cry while the stuff into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► one event maybe they don't have time to do in-depth software demos like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► so maybe the iPad section of the update will just be about you know a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► of iOS 7 plus like new iPad models prices specs and then move on I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► they've got to have suffered Emma and I don't I just fired up numbers on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► phone I'm surprised you can have it installed I i deleted them awhile ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► never used them I have it because I keep I keep the daring fireballs sponsorship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► schedule in numbers spreadsheet and usually almost alone i wouldst I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► remember the last time I opened it it certainly wasn't hasn't been open since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► I bought this new phone so it's probably months but you know I keep it in iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► and that way if I'm ever do need to answer some sort of sponsorship question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► access but it looks ridiculous it is so over the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► you know just to use the word to you know everybody knows what i mean but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► with the market fell for the tabs and paper texture on the tabs in a wood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► background and everything's in there it's got wood linen paper the keyboard I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► think they've gotta have new versions got to be a mean you could say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► about a lot of things that they don't have a lot of things that have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► back for you know for a while but I get you right now that it is it's like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► in-your-face there that it sold machiavelli noticed day-to-day use on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► the iOS 7 you really do this when things are not up to it and there's other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► little things to like that so they they and i've seen people see some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► have written to me about the fact that iOS 6 maps get these old UI controls a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► why not given bored why they make them and I'm not sure how much of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► technical about what version of the SDK apps are compiled against what they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► expect and how much of it is what they actually do kinda wanna make you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► absolutely dated because they want you to update they want that gentle pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► to update and recompiling redesign for Iowa so sorry that I i think if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► you consider what an outfit look like if it had like half iOS 7 style stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► half Iowa $6 does it would look bad and it would have potentially big problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► and so I think they just did it this way because an app that has elements of both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► mixed in haphazardly is a way worse situation for everybody involved and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► those making it look like a good look exactly like that I was six and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► are some things that are updated like you I alert is new everywhere although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► you get a different app down color you get like that bright blue color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► updated out some of the things to like the the milk impose sheet you can call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► up from action sheet that's right you know but but still yet most of it is iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► 6 style and I think it's just because it would just break so many things if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► tried to mix in more elements of seven is that you I this is is a complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► utter digression from talking about next week's event but it wouldn't be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► episode of the talk show with the long parenthetical digression guide English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► and I last week had spent some of the time on the show talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► people holding out and not willfully not upgrading to iOS 7 and how many are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► there is is it going to be bigger this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► yes we did see another huge first week upgrade to iOS 7 and at one point was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► tracking faster than I was six dead as updates but maybe there will be because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► of the changes are so different and some people feel so strongly about them maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► there will be a bigger contingent this time that holds for us what we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► about one thing we didn't talk about it I guess I don't think it just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► occur to us but a bunch of people wrote to me and said here's why I'm staying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► with I was sex I am iPhone is jailbroken and I want to keep it jailbroken Forex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► wide reasons XYZ and a lot of the people who wrote me a perfectly valid reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► you know some people is because there you know they live in a country or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► something where you need it jailbroken phone to get in on the network you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► wanted on or something like that but the thing is is that I was 7 has not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5156">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► been jailbroken really I didn't realize that I don't pay too much attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► it but I that surprises me because I don't jailbreak and I don't really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► about it and restore have strong feelings about it I i I hadn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► thought about that but once the readers pointed out to me I realized that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► hadn't seen the holy cow Iowa seven is jailbroken day on technique which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► know everything every previous year it's always been presented as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► some kind of scandal that iPhone new version of iOS has been jailbroken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► jailbreaking is always a lot more popular than people like us think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► I definitely know that definitely well you know and I think you know and I even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► a I know that it's true but I know that I always lapse into forgetting that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► true just like on last week's show right like I it wouldn't surprise me at all if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► a sizable chunk like seventy percent of something I think it's a mariner it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► would surprise me at all if like 15 percent of that like 15 percent total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► was jumper and that's why those people are holding on that would not surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► me at all because it's really very popular especially in certain parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► the world's most everyone jumper and certain communities of like certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► kinds of nerds and and certain kinds of people with certain needs or people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► want to tethering hack or something like that like it's very very popular and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► said that wouldn't surprise me at all that was a big chunk of it I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► realize that they've gotten so fat generally with new releases it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► pops up whenever there's a like a game developer and you know i think is its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► jailbreaking clearly skews younger you know it's like a teenager and twenties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► type thing I think just in broad terms I mean I'm sure that there's people of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► every agent jailbreak for whatever reason but you know it's a hacker type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► thing and so do you know games are popular one of the big things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► job ratings you know it it becomes possible to pirate games and whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► developers release numbers with developers have like an online part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► the game so they can see how many users they have you know they end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► these user numbers that are way higher than the page number of a positive so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► Instapaper ahead integrated crash Linux which is this this crash tracking thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► and they are analytics they will tell you for each crash what percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► the people who had that crash are jailbroken to the day just try to attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► I had this one crash it was affecting like a nicely even slice of the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► like it wasn't just affecting a certain edge case it was affecting like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► every tenth person or something like that every so often so it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► nicely their random slice of the of the user base and it was something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5336">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► twenty percent jump and certainly in strippers user base is probably more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► geeky than the average but not by as much as you think and that's history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5344">TS</a>]
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01:29:18 ◼ ► country that's really incredible so I wonder with iOS 7 not yet been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5358">TS</a>]
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01:29:31 ◼ ► jailbreaks work my layman's understanding is that the jailbreak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► community looks for or hordes even exploits where they can get code to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► and then once they can get code to run through some sort of exploit and the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► they know the certain you know pads that they can take and which files to modify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► in the system to you know defeat the aspects of the OS that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5390">TS</a>]
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01:30:04 ◼ ► that their hard-earned you know as the years have gone on and apples added more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► security features you know randomizing memory locations and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► that it's just gotten harder to defeat or or maybe you know has a pool done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► something specifically with the desire of Iowa specifically to make it harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► to jailbreak it's always been very unclear to me just how strongly Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► feels like it at the executive level about jailbreaking and how much you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► they should bother to sort of try to defeat it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► Graham pollen here he would he be he would be able to talk about that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► more qualified we're obviously cuz he's actually like a wizard in the community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► show wasn't yours there was a six-month it was really good I think about a debug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► you get on here but yeah that too but ultimately like there is a job breakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5453">TS</a>]
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01:31:04 ◼ ► and and she has like the free iPhone 4 told her not to buy but she bought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► six months ago recently why did he ask that's the thing that when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5469">TS</a>]
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01:31:17 ◼ ► an iPhone I said alright whatever you do don't get the free one get the 100 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5477">TS</a>]
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01:31:29 ◼ ► three phones that are available right now don't get this one this one hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5489">TS</a>]
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01:31:49 ◼ ► and she's like one friend on facebook said that you to restore his phone away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► everything out and I don't know if that's true I have no idea it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► really matter she was scared by the media into not of greens she's like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► I was 6 phone forever and had to explain to her like you know Mom first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► all the things you've heard are overblown and not really a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► second of all every time a police is anything new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► you're going to see all these crazy news reports about it because that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► you can't hold onto the old version forever like there's gonna be a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► but and this is what this forever go it's really hard to be like a member of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► modern computing society in any way and hold on to a really old version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► something for every especially the role of Apple you can have a year pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► may be able to you know if if that phone ever gets damaged has to be replaced or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► if you know the screen fails or like you know the home button fails like it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► sometimes in the four like if any any any failure to require replacement or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5568">TS</a>]
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01:33:04 ◼ ► this phone is no longer that usual cause the batteries terrible in two years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► you buy a new one because it's free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► any new phone you get is going to have the newest so like you can't really hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► on to your total version for very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► like in the grand scheme of things like that so she may get harder and harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► do and at some point you're gonna be forced to upgrade and you realize okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► it's not that bad and and actually it's kind of nice all these ways and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► kind of like that that's always how did you ever run into any problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► Instapaper or even the magazine app when you were right now where where you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► crashing bug that only affected or seemingly disproportionately affected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► jailbreak users not really usually the problem is that where there are you hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► that use of the problem was with the older devices they didn't have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► RAM some of the jailbreak tools would stay resident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► memory and would take up more RAM than an unusual device would would have so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► could have less RAM available and there's no paging out to a page file or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► swap file that you don't doesn't do that you and i OS if you ask for certain by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► Ram you don't get it right and you probably didn't accommodate for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5652">TS</a>]
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01:34:20 ◼ ► exactly exactly or iOS will say open low memory warning you better use less and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5660">TS</a>]
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01:34:33 ◼ ► jailbreak stuff is not necessarily interferes with things you're a code is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5673">TS</a>]
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01:34:59 ◼ ► think that they they they did it with so little that it doesn't make it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► likely gonna crash as opposed to in this may be breeding your time on the Mac Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► OS 10 first came out people ran these hack sees that's actually what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► called atx I he from insanity and there are other people to people used to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► these with a simple plug-in says I am bleh I got some of those yeah you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5722">TS</a>]
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01:35:32 ◼ ► six years of Mac OS 10 then I think they are now but if you were a Mac Developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► you inevitably you'd you'd get crashes you know some of these things we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► make your appt crash and your app would never do that you'd never see this crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► unless you had this specific faxer simple plugin in the stack trace that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► you got the bug report all of them were there and the question is what do you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► to you do you do you support that dude work around it like a bare-bones they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5756">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► didn't predict 99% sure they still don't they'll be polite about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► it but you know that the response response from sport is that you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► know we can't support third-party extensions that modify the system itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5769">TS</a>]
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01:36:29 ◼ ► hard to support that kind of stuff right and from the user's perspective they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5789">TS</a>]
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01:36:42 ◼ ► infinite array of platforms these support it's the one guy has the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► extension and the other guy has this one and that one and you you've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► tested you know sometimes to reproduce it you've gotta have that exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► configuration and unlike when when 10 . and plus one comes out and all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5814">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► extensions change the way we interact with things get something changed then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► you got a test for all those versions too so I don't think jailbreaking as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► support problem that way into memory is but I do know that there are developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► who who detected or tried to detect jailbreaking and others various ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5830">TS</a>]
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01:37:22 ◼ ► didn't want to support people that wanted spin tech support recesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► resources on people who pirated the app that's why I thought about doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5845">TS</a>]
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01:37:41 ◼ ► the phones are available in their country or on a carrier of their choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5861">TS</a>]
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01:37:51 ◼ ► could argue with legitimate and people running it for free but ok so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► not every jawbreaker is doing it like quote optionally in their in their mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5876">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► at least in fact probably not but so it's it's hard like morally and customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► satisfaction while it's hard to say I'm just not going to support jailbreakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► because that's you know in their minds that's a pretty inflammatory view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► and you're going to hear about it and and they could still one-star you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5898">TS</a>]
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01:39:25 ◼ ► sometimes like the developer didn't test unlike any I've had one or an iPad the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/5965">TS</a>]
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01:53:41 ◼ ► like people are you do this and it sucks so maybe this is wishful thinking DVD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► would someday have universal search but yes you can look at the problem set as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► it as it exists today without adding any major new capabilities and you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► there's still a lot of room for improvement here in both hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► software and so this year I think this is just gonna have for a while I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6837">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► so too I have two other things on my list and those shows been long tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► try to get through this I love how your show is unapologetically long I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► thought last week for the guy was going to be short there was a funny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► damian Paul's just the tip ended with a me saying to Paul we don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:26 ◼ ► going on and the first thing I said the guy in the cold opening of last week's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6866">TS</a>]
01:54:32 ◼ ► the talk show was me saying I don't think there's much going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6872">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► yeah it was pretty great and they were released like just the tip was released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► shortly before the talk show so if you had them both in a playlist it would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► like it was perfect I heard it that way in like organically it was and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► everybody thought we planned it but I don't know if i dont even I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► know where our show opened like you know I don't have it the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► Caleb Sexton does a great job of it he picks a good part in and treat do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6897">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► but Pollin Amy edit their own show so they end and I don't listen to it so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► was a truly just incident it was very funny no I was gonna say that I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► last week showed guy was going to be sure because I really didn't think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► had a lot going on well but it was what's good about about your show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► know being long is like a show like twitches boring as hell that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► sorry if you like that show anyone you know you don't you don't want the shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:37 ◼ ► like that to go like two hours and such as they often do you know when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6937">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► showed guy ended I was like oh man I wish there was little bit more of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► discussion still happening like it's all about whether you want more of it or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► whether you notice that it's been two out rally for a good show you know once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6953">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► you blow past the the cellular download limit which were wait you know what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:07 ◼ ► then who cares the end then that's the only complaint that really valid really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6967">TS</a>]
01:56:12 ◼ ► showing signs of being boring and so you know if people are like what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6972">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► saying keep going into the third downs and this is a couple of them from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:21 ◼ ► show the ATP I'll call ATP I find accidental tech podcast yes it makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6981">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► realize that I mean I try to do a show every week but not and i'd in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:36 ◼ ► of my head I think I miss a couple weeks a year but then I realized on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6996">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► one-year anniversary of his only forty she saw him close 252 you guys are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► to the show and episode numbers on this run and the talk show this episode uni [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7010">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► is episode 57 and you guys natpe are already at 37 and I still think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► delay 3535 alright well you're close but you know it's it's like spitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► distance and I still think if your show is brand new I still think of the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:17 ◼ ► show you had before that ATP spilled out of his being kinda knew that was in late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► February I mean it is Brittany we just we just are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► we're all the kind of nerd that like never missed a day of school but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► amazing to me that I can't believe I still think of ATP is being brand new I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:34 ◼ ► can't believe you guys are neither can I is burning and then we started at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7054">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► first of a few things in March I mean it was it was not that long ago yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:47 ◼ ► it's going green is going fantastically our numbers are fantastic I it is it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7067">TS</a>]
01:57:52 ◼ ► gotten popular very quickly like way more than I thought and what's funny is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7072">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► you know all the reviews are pretty much the same their views are like I'm an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7076">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► arrogant asshole who the hell is Casey but John Siracusa is amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:04 ◼ ► everyone loves John as I complain about him ever it's pretty common remember an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7084">TS</a>]
01:58:16 ◼ ► some of the bad reviews about TMC thank you called it doing a grouper I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7096">TS</a>]
01:58:22 ◼ ► as they get that's always a little bit of a jolt when you mentioned on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7102">TS</a>]
01:58:26 ◼ ► other show anyway the thing on this week's show why I wrote about on during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7106">TS</a>]
01:58:31 ◼ ► the day was a bit about Syrian latency and it all came from a bit on your show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7111">TS</a>]
01:58:37 ◼ ► where Casey mention that on this week's or last week's episode of the agents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7117">TS</a>]
01:58:42 ◼ ► from she'll show you know Marvel Universe show that doesn't actually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7122">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► super heroes on ABC strong person here at him well whatever this you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► the shield show not to be confused I guess we should show the joke there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7135">TS</a>]
01:59:03 ◼ ► joke on the show that somebody said they had like other agents whispering in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7143">TS</a>]
01:59:08 ◼ ► ear to ear piece or something and Dejan it was you know giving them information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7148">TS</a>]
01:59:12 ◼ ► about what they were saying it was like this would be like if she reworked is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7152">TS</a>]
01:59:16 ◼ ► some kind of joke like that and Casey observed isn't an interesting that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7156">TS</a>]
01:59:19 ◼ ► national network TV show series the butt of jokes that people even know enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7159">TS</a>]
01:59:25 ◼ ► get the joke and you know went on from there and it was just really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7165">TS</a>]
01:59:32 ◼ ► discussion of why doesn't why can't Apple get something like Siri to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7172">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► really good and really fast like let's say the way that they you know online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► stuff they don't do that well on device stuff they're great at like for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► touch I D such ideas like a perfect Apple thing where yes there are it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► the first cell phone that ship with a fingerprint scanner during a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7189">TS</a>]
01:59:52 ◼ ► others and they all suck and everybody hated them and they were terrible and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7192">TS</a>]
01:59:55 ◼ ► took long and they were finicky and had to do funny things like Royal Dutch lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7195">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► they are graded that but why can't they get better in online stuff and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:08 ◼ ► didn't write about today though is is comparing them to google it is it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7208">TS</a>]
02:00:13 ◼ ► funny inverse because on the other hand Google gets that online latency and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7213">TS</a>]
02:00:19 ◼ ► accuracy it's it's just ingrained in our culture to the whole thing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7219">TS</a>]
02:00:23 ◼ ► started with is that they're gonna give you accurate search results really fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7223">TS</a>]
02:00:28 ◼ ► but you know on Android touch latency is always been terrible about that you hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7228">TS</a>]
02:00:41 ◼ ► what I hear about it how well they every release of Android Google says it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7241">TS</a>]
02:00:47 ◼ ► oh right under 800 always getting better right and I'm sure that when 205 comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7247">TS</a>]
02:00:53 ◼ ► out that there's going to you know it's as though they've never said it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7253">TS</a>]
02:00:58 ◼ ► they're going to say this time we've solved it in latency you know framerate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7258">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► latency is down here they've had that like buttered toast release or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7262">TS</a>]
02:01:08 ◼ ► it was and that was it it was measurably improved you know so they they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7268">TS</a>]
02:01:12 ◼ ► improve it but yeah you're right I get overall responsiveness just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7272">TS</a>]
02:01:16 ◼ ► it's way more of a priority on iOS and the entire OS is architected differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7276">TS</a>]
02:01:21 ◼ ► to to to emphasize that right and there is something to it we're like even in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7281">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► big company and you somehow think from the outside that well if you had all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:33 ◼ ► resources that Apple Google ad R&D solvable problems isn't it solvable did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7293">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► you know to to put an end to advise thanks to an iPhone danced a lot by next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:43 ◼ ► year we want this Android to be have just that type of frame rate and put top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7303">TS</a>]
02:01:48 ◼ ► engineers on it and give them a year at reasonable sounds like it but that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7308">TS</a>]
02:01:55 ◼ ► you know in real life engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7315">TS</a>]
02:01:58 ◼ ► and you also think couldn't you can't apple just throw money at the Siri team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7318">TS</a>]
02:02:02 ◼ ► and tricks and I don't you know it just doesn't work that way there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7322">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► to do with like the founding cultures of companies that it prioritizes what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► they're good at right and that tends to not change over time you know companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:19 ◼ ► companies that are really good at one thing and and really don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7339">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► another those priorities are rarely changed over time and because the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:28 ◼ ► company is set up around at that and it's it's set up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7348">TS</a>]
02:02:32 ◼ ► to reinforce their priorities and to to support the things they want to care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7352">TS</a>]
02:02:38 ◼ ► about and to ignore the things they don't and it's just once a company gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7358">TS</a>]
02:02:44 ◼ ► the size of something like Google or Apple like the the chances of of making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7364">TS</a>]
02:02:50 ◼ ► a meaningful shift in going all of a sudden into a look at the great example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7370">TS</a>]
02:02:55 ◼ ► this other attempt to do this i think is Microsoft with the internet you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7375">TS</a>]
02:03:01 ◼ ► that's a very highly publicized thing we're like Bill Gates ignore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7381">TS</a>]
02:03:05 ◼ ► internet for too long to realize detour for too long and I tried to turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7385">TS</a>]
02:03:09 ◼ ► company on a dime to all the sudden oh crap the internet the real thing and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7389">TS</a>]
02:03:13 ◼ ► have to like it on this quickly and if you look at what they did in a retro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7393">TS</a>]
02:03:18 ◼ ► actually retrospectively you look what they actually did here and they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7398">TS</a>]
02:03:23 ◼ ► didn't embrace the internet very well they they made Internet Explorer which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7403">TS</a>]
02:03:27 ◼ ► was doing what they're doing well a desktop up and everything into a test of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7407">TS</a>]
02:03:32 ◼ ► operating system you know they they were just playing the same here they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7412">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► play just involving the internet but not really being of the internet and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:41 ◼ ► all the stuff that you know a true internet like Google is a true internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7421">TS</a>]
02:03:46 ◼ ► company they've been you know the Internet is their platform Android is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7426">TS</a>]
02:03:51 ◼ ► side project the Internet is their platform so you know that's like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7431">TS</a>]
02:03:56 ◼ ► their DNA everything we do is about Internet services and and the needs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7436">TS</a>]
02:04:01 ◼ ► of Internet services and you know so Microsoft you know they they thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7441">TS</a>]
02:04:07 ◼ ► they were giving the whole company and focusing on the internet full steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7447">TS</a>]
02:04:11 ◼ ► but if you look what they actually did they just kept doing with their already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7451">TS</a>]
02:04:13 ◼ ► good at and they didn't become google it didn't launch major web services for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7453">TS</a>]
02:04:17 ◼ ► years after that and they still there they still don't succeed that load web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7457">TS</a>]
02:04:23 ◼ ► services and they don't do they're still focused on desktop software only or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7463">TS</a>]
02:04:28 ◼ ► primarily in desktop software these days and server software like the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7468">TS</a>]
02:04:31 ◼ ► they've always done so even that giant massive turnaround that we know about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7471">TS</a>]
02:04:37 ◼ ► and computer history didn't really actually change the company that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7477">TS</a>]
02:04:41 ◼ ► right so you can look at Apple and Google now you can say well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7481">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► Google is all of a sudden shifting the focus on you I enjoyed well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:50 ◼ ► somewhat but not grade and Apple trying so hard to focus on these new web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7490">TS</a>]
02:04:56 ◼ ► services that power they're cool stuff well you know they aren't they'll see me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7496">TS</a>]
02:05:00 ◼ ► putting that much of a priority on the whole company is not going to suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7500">TS</a>]
02:05:03 ◼ ► turn around and Apple become fantastic web services or Google become fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7503">TS</a>]
02:05:12 ◼ ► yeah i i think you know with your Internet Explorer example in hindsight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7512">TS</a>]
02:05:17 ◼ ► especially with what they did once they got to IE six and put netscape under and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7517">TS</a>]
02:05:23 ◼ ► really sort of Domino got to the point where their browser had just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7523">TS</a>]
02:05:27 ◼ ► Windows you know ninety-something percent market share is it was really in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7527">TS</a>]
02:05:32 ◼ ► any stopped innovating with M&A really just stopped putting out new versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7532">TS</a>]
02:05:35 ◼ ► that they really just saw it as a way to sort of not kill the internet but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7535">TS</a>]
02:05:39 ◼ ► encapsulated within I just don't realize it because they didn't do things so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7539">TS</a>]
02:05:49 ◼ ► being is an attempt to be of the internet and and and make fun of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7549">TS</a>]
02:05:54 ◼ ► because it's almost like god bless them because if if not for being what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7554">TS</a>]
02:05:58 ◼ ► be the number to search engine you know I don't use it but I'm glad it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7558">TS</a>]
02:06:03 ◼ ► and it's like i don't know what I mean Yahoo stop burning there is years ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7563">TS</a>]
02:06:09 ◼ ► know I know a lot of people don't like whenever their financial stuff comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7569">TS</a>]
02:06:13 ◼ ► every corner lot of people make a about the fact that they continually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7573">TS</a>]
02:06:16 ◼ ► bleed money out of there in Microsoft out of there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7576">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► in its services division being division but I almost wanted to say hey stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:24 ◼ ► making fun of him for that because if they were in you know who would be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7584">TS</a>]
02:06:28 ◼ ► know Google honest has a sexy like a public Foundation to fund being right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7588">TS</a>]
02:06:34 ◼ ► but they didn't even start that until much later that wasn't you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7594">TS</a>]
02:06:37 ◼ ► didn't decade after right imagine if they had tried to build being in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7597">TS</a>]
02:06:43 ◼ ► know 1995 96 whatever it was it had that different even right after it was clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7603">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► that Google has become a huge like 2001 tribal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:54 ◼ ► no I mean when I mean being I think came from like MSN search everything but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7614">TS</a>]
02:07:00 ◼ ► even that didn't start at that kind of scale until a few years after that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7620">TS</a>]
02:07:04 ◼ ► and then mess n stuff wasn't really a mess and was really more of like an AOL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7624">TS</a>]
02:07:08 ◼ ► a second alternative day well not like a part of the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7628">TS</a>]
02:07:13 ◼ ► well and they they applied the MSN name and then the live news and the big name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7633">TS</a>]
02:07:19 ◼ ► and in the Windows name all over so many things over the years it's it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7639">TS</a>]
02:07:22 ◼ ► hard to say what you think was and and and so I think maybe the explanation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7642">TS</a>]
02:07:29 ◼ ► I think they will get better in the longer you know give it some years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7649">TS</a>]
02:07:33 ◼ ► androids you know frame rate and etcetera is certainly only get better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7653">TS</a>]
02:07:36 ◼ ► and there's a certain point where there's no point in getting better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7656">TS</a>]
02:07:40 ◼ ► 60 frames per second and I'm sure that as you know there is that debt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7660">TS</a>]
02:07:46 ◼ ► interesting study from last month about the touch responsive times on devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7666">TS</a>]
02:07:51 ◼ ► and Apple's iPhone 5 is like five times more responsive than even the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7671">TS</a>]
02:07:56 ◼ ► Android phone in terms of like milliseconds it takes for a touch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7676">TS</a>]
02:08:00 ◼ ► register on screen but I'm sure that like those Android phones probably ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7680">TS</a>]
02:08:06 ◼ ► touch responsiveness they'd better than the original iPhone from 2007 so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7686">TS</a>]
02:08:11 ◼ ► know they're catching up and I'm sure siri will keep getting better but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7691">TS</a>]
02:08:15 ◼ ► think that they're both just evidence that even in a big company like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7695">TS</a>]
02:08:18 ◼ ► there's just a only so much attention to go around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7698">TS</a>]
02:08:22 ◼ ► if your attention is on making you know what your top priority is as best as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7702">TS</a>]
02:08:28 ◼ ► can be insanely great there's just not that much attention to go around to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7708">TS</a>]
02:08:33 ◼ ► secondary and tertiary priorities right can't be like oh everything's a priority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7713">TS</a>]
02:08:38 ◼ ► that's that's not a real thing as as Merlin tells us like that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7718">TS</a>]
02:08:43 ◼ ► doesn't mean anything and you know it can't be like Microsoft no compromises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7723">TS</a>]
02:08:48 ◼ ► we know that that's bogus to you have to focus on something and and necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7728">TS</a>]
02:08:54 ◼ ► like if you're gonna do one thing really well and have an intense focus to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7734">TS</a>]
02:09:00 ◼ ► able to do it really well chances are other areas are going to be ignored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7740">TS</a>]
02:09:05 ◼ ► here's my last topic and this is very specific to you as the arrogant asshole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7745">TS</a>]
02:09:11 ◼ ► the other thing you said on the shows you do as an example you'd mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7751">TS</a>]
02:09:16 ◼ ► something about that same type of problem said like a Microsoft hire a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7756">TS</a>]
02:09:23 ◼ ► CEO new CEO says you know what one of our problems is our one of our problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7763">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► is that a problem our products just are not as cool as apples or some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:32 ◼ ► companies too we need to invest in call and and throw money we need to put more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7772">TS</a>]
02:09:38 ◼ ► money into what doesn't work like that you can't just throw money at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7778">TS</a>]
02:09:43 ◼ ► it's really if if and I agree with you that Microsoft that actually is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7783">TS</a>]
02:09:47 ◼ ► problem that they have this sort of institutional efficiency of course it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7787">TS</a>]
02:09:54 ◼ ► it's ingrained in all of the people who are there everybody know my saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7794">TS</a>]
02:09:58 ◼ ► there's no cool people who work at Microsoft in fact I know the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7798">TS</a>]
02:10:01 ◼ ► that there are very cool people organized but on the whole on average if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7801">TS</a>]
02:10:07 ◼ ► you took forty Microsoft employees in 40 Apple employees I would call you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7807">TS</a>]
02:10:13 ◼ ► think collectively I would find the Apple people to be cooler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7813">TS</a>]
02:10:19 ◼ ► who would you rather hang out with her partner and you know that's not to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7819">TS</a>]
02:10:24 ◼ ► that there's some not somebody else who who who wouldn't find the Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7824">TS</a>]
02:10:30 ◼ ► people be corn say whether people are assholes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7830">TS</a>]
02:10:33 ◼ ► I don't know what the problem but I think and this is the right thing I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7833">TS</a>]
02:10:42 ◼ ► rather just talk about it but i've had for years that part of what gets Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7842">TS</a>]
02:10:48 ◼ ► this world has Apple get treated so much differently than other companies in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7848">TS</a>]
02:10:54 ◼ ► press and and when they do things they everything is in different proportions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7854">TS</a>]
02:10:58 ◼ ► to other companies get treated and it can't just be about the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7858">TS</a>]
02:11:03 ◼ ► Apple's the biggest company because it's been true from what Apple is far from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7863">TS</a>]
02:11:07 ◼ ► the biggest company always been true that Apple gets treated differently I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7867">TS</a>]
02:11:11 ◼ ► think it's because they get treated differently because there's they are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7871">TS</a>]
02:11:15 ◼ ► yeah so stupid to say but it is and you know like steve Jobs was a cool guy he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7875">TS</a>]
02:11:24 ◼ ► really was he was very cool guy bill gates was definitely not cool kids they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7884">TS</a>]
02:11:30 ◼ ► the opposite and it just sort of infuse the company DNA but for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7890">TS</a>]
02:11:36 ◼ ► aren't call themselves either don't see it and so it's really is seemingly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7896">TS</a>]
02:11:42 ◼ ► a mystery and and hence all the Apple is a cult type thing you know they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7902">TS</a>]
02:11:48 ◼ ► just don't see it they don't have thats fine sense of what is cool and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7908">TS</a>]
02:11:52 ◼ ► not corn so if they don't detected it does look like people are behaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7912">TS</a>]
02:11:56 ◼ ► irrationally or like religious zealots or something or if they do see it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7916">TS</a>]
02:12:01 ◼ ► resent it right that's the big thing that cool is polarizing and and first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7921">TS</a>]
02:12:09 ◼ ► all you know you look at other things in our culture that get a lot of attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7929">TS</a>]
02:12:13 ◼ ► things like celebrities the president there is like even look at like other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7933">TS</a>]
02:12:19 ◼ ► figures are companies that are very much in the public eye and it's often a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7939">TS</a>]
02:12:26 ◼ ► popular thing it's a whole industry to like take them down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7946">TS</a>]
02:12:31 ◼ ► and point out of their fill in the hole like tabloid industry is like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7951">TS</a>]
02:12:36 ◼ ► massive worldwide phenomenon that people love when the cool kid messes up or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7956">TS</a>]
02:12:43 ◼ ► get a bad picture of them you know people people crave that it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7963">TS</a>]
02:12:48 ◼ ► really sad actually it's pretty terrible for society but that's how people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7968">TS</a>]
02:12:53 ◼ ► and I think Apple has reached that point there they're popular they are cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7973">TS</a>]
02:12:58 ◼ ► there very much in the public eye and and certainly write a lot of that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7978">TS</a>]
02:13:04 ◼ ► steve jobs but I think now that has transcended him and now it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7984">TS</a>]
02:13:08 ◼ ► company is that cool and is that public and I think they're they're bound to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7988">TS</a>]
02:13:15 ◼ ► only get a lot of negative attention at all times just like celebrities do just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/7995">TS</a>]
02:13:21 ◼ ► because there's a lot of money in it but also there are a lot of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8001">TS</a>]
02:13:26 ◼ ► really don't like Apple could end and part of a guy I work this thing here go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8006">TS</a>]
02:13:30 ◼ ► for the magazine and its my site about how the culture of Apple is polarizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8010">TS</a>]
02:13:36 ◼ ► to people because Apple products say no a lot and and they say we know better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8016">TS</a>]
02:13:41 ◼ ► a lot and a lot of people in their own way but cool itself cool and it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8021">TS</a>]
02:13:48 ◼ ► that you know you and I were talking about this because I don't know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8028">TS</a>]
02:13:50 ◼ ► you but most of my life nobody would ever consider me a cool guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8030">TS</a>]
02:13:55 ◼ ► yeah but I have to imagine that that is probably true for at least some portion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8035">TS</a>]
02:14:02 ◼ ► of an audience of Technology podcast but as far as I know me know so take a grain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8042">TS</a>]
02:14:10 ◼ ► of salt here is this is foreign territory but cool also comes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8050">TS</a>]
02:14:16 ◼ ► position of confidence and is a very fine line between confidence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8056">TS</a>]
02:14:20 ◼ ► arrogance and even just the reasons you're confident if someone disagrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8060">TS</a>]
02:14:26 ◼ ► with those reasons then they will see your coolness as arrogance and so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8066">TS</a>]
02:14:32 ◼ ► very fine line and it's very polarizing and it brings a lot of emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8072">TS</a>]
02:14:36 ◼ ► responses and people and I think that's really the root of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8076">TS</a>]
02:14:42 ◼ ► of the crazy amount of of negative attention that Apple draws a multitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8082">TS</a>]
02:14:51 ◼ ► of sources but I think that the Kuomintang under explored and under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8091">TS</a>]
02:14:56 ◼ ► considered but certainly not reasonable quote is not usually something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8096">TS</a>]
02:15:10 ◼ ► can buy and not usually something that you can switch to easily its cool is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8110">TS</a>]
02:15:16 ◼ ► kind of an inherent quality like people either are cooler they're not and any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8116">TS</a>]
02:15:22 ◼ ► loss of his confidence and I usually like ingrained characteristics that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8122">TS</a>]
02:15:27 ◼ ► very hard to convincingly fake or to suddenly adopt out of the blue so and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8127">TS</a>]
02:15:34 ◼ ► think the same thing applies to companies in their products you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8134">TS</a>]
02:15:36 ◼ ► Apple stuff is cool because Apple school and apples people are cool and apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8136">TS</a>]
02:15:40 ◼ ► leaders were cool I don't I don't see that happening at Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8140">TS</a>]
02:15:46 ◼ ► you might get a couple of cool employees here and there because there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8146">TS</a>]
02:15:49 ◼ ► people who were there a lot of pretty awesome but I think as a culture it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8149">TS</a>]
02:15:57 ◼ ► reflects the founders right there in and provide recent example that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8157">TS</a>]
02:16:02 ◼ ► sendoff bomber had at the big 14,000 person meeting I still haven't but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8162">TS</a>]
02:16:11 ◼ ► ever heard of descriptions of it from you and everyone else that idea what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8171">TS</a>]
02:16:15 ◼ ► going on but then you know he gets real emotional and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8175">TS</a>]
02:16:18 ◼ ► and which in and of itself isn't bad the emotional part of it but it's there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8178">TS</a>]
02:16:23 ◼ ► then he is talking about his wanted to play this song in the event for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8183">TS</a>]
02:16:27 ◼ ► but just never had the right time but now it clearly it's perfect and as one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8187">TS</a>]
02:16:30 ◼ ► of its all time favorite songs I know it seems it it's I've had the time of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8190">TS</a>]
02:16:35 ◼ ► life I had the song about like the crowd and who knows it's always hard to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8195">TS</a>]
02:16:43 ◼ ► you there's fourteen thousand people there and it could be that eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8203">TS</a>]
02:16:46 ◼ ► thousand of them were cringing and six thousand cheering and six thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8206">TS</a>]
02:16:50 ◼ ► cheering people is still gonna sound like a lot of cheering but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8210">TS</a>]
02:16:54 ◼ ► seemed the crowd was just eating it and again I didn't want to make fun of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8214">TS</a>]
02:17:00 ◼ ► when I hope I didn't come across as I meant it sincerely where it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8220">TS</a>]
02:17:04 ◼ ► it was definitely bomber it when I he went out of his way and that is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8224">TS</a>]
02:17:10 ◼ ► send off song that is not a good song to say even trying to play at an event for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8230">TS</a>]
02:17:15 ◼ ► years because of what what other context would that have everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8235">TS</a>]
02:17:20 ◼ ► the words you know I've had the time of my life here and whatever is as I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8240">TS</a>]
02:17:25 ◼ ► a good sentiment for a send off but the actual song itself is such a corny song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8245">TS</a>]
02:17:29 ◼ ► that it's not cool like you know it is not a course I wasn't even call when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8249">TS</a>]
02:17:36 ◼ ► was new it was in the seventies and early eighties maybe I mean I know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8256">TS</a>]
02:17:42 ◼ ► was you know it's it's tough right never been called may be very popular but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8262">TS</a>]
02:17:48 ◼ ► not cool at least not the kind of cool that I care about you know I think one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8268">TS</a>]
02:17:57 ◼ ► of this is this is my head as may be appropriate bought out but it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8277">TS</a>]
02:18:02 ◼ ► finale dirty dancing and was at like 830 or 85 so you know I think Apple people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8282">TS</a>]
02:18:13 ◼ ► are people there individuals they they identified as individuals and while they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8293">TS</a>]
02:18:20 ◼ ► work at Apple and they respected I get the overall impression from them from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8300">TS</a>]
02:18:24 ◼ ► the people I meet and from the executives i've seen in person that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8304">TS</a>]
02:18:27 ◼ ► you know if if Apple 108 tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8307">TS</a>]
02:18:30 ◼ ► they would be sad and then they would go do something else they would they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8310">TS</a>]
02:18:34 ◼ ► like to know create something else they would it wouldn't be the end of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8314">TS</a>]
02:18:37 ◼ ► careers where the bomber using a song like that is kind of like saying I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8317">TS</a>]
02:18:41 ◼ ► dying like this is it this company was my entire life and now my time here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8321">TS</a>]
02:18:46 ◼ ► over and therefore my life is over and that's it's a very different attitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8326">TS</a>]
02:18:51 ◼ ► and it's it's it's a type of late loyalty and identification get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8331">TS</a>]
02:18:55 ◼ ► self-identification with your workplace that cool people don't usually have cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8335">TS</a>]
02:19:01 ◼ ► people are like you know more and more into like something out of haitian as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8341">TS</a>]
02:19:06 ◼ ► themselves and their personalities and not so much like team player at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8346">TS</a>]
02:19:11 ◼ ► costs and that's it another way to look at is made look at the opposite of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8351">TS</a>]
02:19:19 ◼ ► school is one of those words that may be a so overused means different things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8359">TS</a>]
02:19:22 ◼ ► different people you know and I said 11 persons cool can definitely be different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8362">TS</a>]
02:19:27 ◼ ► from another person's but to me cool is the opposite of horny and awkward yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8367">TS</a>]
02:19:37 ◼ ► you know and and corniness in particular is to me like sort of the antithesis to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8377">TS</a>]
02:19:43 ◼ ► corporate cool and that's what to me Microsoft often is is corny right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8383">TS</a>]
02:19:49 ◼ ► and there is some linked up last week there were days to be these videos that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8389">TS</a>]
02:19:55 ◼ ► bomber engage would make whenever working together leaders one where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8395">TS</a>]
02:19:58 ◼ ► dressed up as dr. evil and bomber was doctor evil and Bill Gates was Austin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8398">TS</a>]
02:20:04 ◼ ► Powers just so corny or or the video that they yanked last month where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8404">TS</a>]
02:20:10 ◼ ► had somebody in Apple product meeting you know they're trying to make fun of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8410">TS</a>]
02:20:16 ◼ ► the iPhone 5s for only introduced in the color gold or something like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8416">TS</a>]
02:20:23 ◼ ► sound like a train wreck there's really a train wreck and a corny way you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8423">TS</a>]
02:20:28 ◼ ► that's what made it an uncool was the fact that it was so corny and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8428">TS</a>]
02:20:34 ◼ ► feel like though that that's that's not something that easily changed its like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8434">TS</a>]
02:20:42 ◼ ► cause also like an easy way to be on call has to be extremely insecure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8442">TS</a>]
02:20:48 ◼ ► and so many of Microsoft's actions have come off that way at the executive level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8448">TS</a>]
02:20:52 ◼ ► like you see all the stupid comments Obama made over the years about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8452">TS</a>]
02:20:56 ◼ ► their competitors in about specially about Apple products and had an IQ of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8456">TS</a>]
02:21:00 ◼ ► the iPhone funeral and stuff like that they they they keep doing this year too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8460">TS</a>]
02:21:06 ◼ ► and and obviously this is this is not like I called one time mistake they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8466">TS</a>]
02:21:13 ◼ ► this is like their culture creates the stuff and encourages it and doesn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8473">TS</a>]
02:21:18 ◼ ► what doesn't see what's wrong with that and I've always heard from people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8478">TS</a>]
02:21:23 ◼ ► work there or who or who work nearby I've always heard that Microsoft was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8483">TS</a>]
02:21:29 ◼ ► very culturally insular like they there the whole area of Redmond OR they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8489">TS</a>]
02:21:34 ◼ ► the whole area where there is like I basically hurts like just like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8494">TS</a>]
02:21:41 ◼ ► biodome of Microsoft Microsoft culture right there and they don't really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8501">TS</a>]
02:21:50 ◼ ► they don't really get any idea of how they're perceived outside of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8510">TS</a>]
02:21:54 ◼ ► because inside a little tiny hot spot of Microsoft activity they are the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8514">TS</a>]
02:21:59 ◼ ► and everyone loves them and everyone was they do it every most Microsoft but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8519">TS</a>]
02:22:04 ◼ ► know that's that's one of the reasons why I think their marketing is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8524">TS</a>]
02:22:09 ◼ ► weirdly out of touch so often you know because I they really they they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8529">TS</a>]
02:22:15 ◼ ► making stuff that would work in the in the world there that they know what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8535">TS</a>]
02:22:18 ◼ ► don't realize that's not the whole yeah and I think that plays into even product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8538">TS</a>]
02:22:25 ◼ ► decisions to like it just came up again today is all the windows 8.1 reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8545">TS</a>]
02:22:29 ◼ ► came out and most of them are are light well it's a nice improvement over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8549">TS</a>]
02:22:33 ◼ ► Windows 8 but the fundamental weirdness of having to completely different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8553">TS</a>]
02:22:37 ◼ ► interfaces that you toggle between in mysterious ways is just weird by pope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8557">TS</a>]
02:22:44 ◼ ► said that a couple other people said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8564">TS</a>]
02:22:47 ◼ ► just seems like that's the consensus again and it just seems like that idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8567">TS</a>]
02:22:50 ◼ ► of well we'll just will will do something better will will do an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8570">TS</a>]
02:22:58 ◼ ► which nm which they had very original ideas for you know it's nobody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8578">TS</a>]
02:23:03 ◼ ► claim that that the Metro interface in Windows 8 and Windows Phone is a ripoff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8583">TS</a>]
02:23:08 ◼ ► of anything Apple did you know if anything I was seven is more along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8588">TS</a>]
02:23:13 ◼ ► lines the day carved out with this typographic heaviness and flatness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8593">TS</a>]
02:23:18 ◼ ► and those type of things but then did say what we'll do in n and then we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8598">TS</a>]
02:23:23 ◼ ► make it even better by saying that you don't even have to leave your old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8603">TS</a>]
02:23:26 ◼ ► windows goodbye will have that running one button away and there you just lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8606">TS</a>]
02:23:31 ◼ ► everything and I think it probably made tons a sense inside I think the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8611">TS</a>]
02:23:36 ◼ ► that they didn't revisited in a year just shows that they still think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8616">TS</a>]
02:23:40 ◼ ► good idea well I mean I had a conversation with a while back with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8620">TS</a>]
02:23:47 ◼ ► somebody at Microsoft and we were talking about Windows Phone and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8627">TS</a>]
02:23:52 ◼ ► person was saying that they were asking if if I was going to make overcast for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8632">TS</a>]
02:23:58 ◼ ► Windows Phone and I said that I have no plans to even address and read let alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8638">TS</a>]
02:24:04 ◼ ► Windows Phone and if I was to make it for anything else it would probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8644">TS</a>]
02:24:10 ◼ ► Android because that's where all the people are and basically I said that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8650">TS</a>]
02:24:15 ◼ ► don't really see a future where it makes sense for Windows Phone at all because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8655">TS</a>]
02:24:19 ◼ ► it's just not taking off at all if there's no motivation to develop apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8659">TS</a>]
02:24:24 ◼ ► for that and and this guy who who worked at Microsoft and was pretty pretty steep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8664">TS</a>]
02:24:29 ◼ ► in their culture he basically denied that he he basically said that he kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8669">TS</a>]
02:24:37 ◼ ► repeating it was like it was just a matter of time before Windows Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8677">TS</a>]
02:24:42 ◼ ► takes off and really takes over them the market and he really honestly believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8682">TS</a>]
02:24:46 ◼ ► that and I think it's it's hard to look at Windows Phone objectively at all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8686">TS</a>]
02:24:54 ◼ ► to have the opinion that is just you know a couple years we've taken over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8694">TS</a>]
02:24:57 ◼ ► market I mean that's even think that's a future at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8697">TS</a>]
02:25:00 ◼ ► let alone coming up soon I think just as not reflect reality at all and you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8700">TS</a>]
02:25:07 ◼ ► the problem with Windows Phone is that it doesn't do anything for the carriers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8707">TS</a>]
02:25:12 ◼ ► the carriers love control and login and everything else so it doesn't help them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8712">TS</a>]
02:25:17 ◼ ► it it is as unhelpful to the carriers as the iPhone however the carriers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8717">TS</a>]
02:25:23 ◼ ► reluctantly carry the iPhone because there's such incredible demand for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8723">TS</a>]
02:25:28 ◼ ► from consumers that kinda have to Windows fun doesn't have that one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8728">TS</a>]
02:25:34 ◼ ► those two things has to change either it has to start bending extremely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8734">TS</a>]
02:25:37 ◼ ► carriers wills which i think is unlikely any even if they did I don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8737">TS</a>]
02:25:43 ◼ ► would be able to help the charism exaggerated does and or consumers have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8743">TS</a>]
02:25:48 ◼ ► to suddenly all is suddenly out of the blue massively walk those phones and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8748">TS</a>]
02:25:53 ◼ ► don't see that happening either I think it was going to happen what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8753">TS</a>]
02:25:56 ◼ ► already so I don't see a future Windows Phone makes a massive difference is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8756">TS</a>]
02:26:02 ◼ ► similarly with Windows 8 on tablets and god knows what else it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8762">TS</a>]
02:26:09 ◼ ► Microsoft is unable to see why that's a bad idea and I and maybe maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8769">TS</a>]
02:26:14 ◼ ► wrong maybe they actually realize a terrible idea and are working on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8774">TS</a>]
02:26:19 ◼ ► next idea but the to take a few more years that's very possible obviously a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8779">TS</a>]
02:26:23 ◼ ► major revamp it can take some time but I don't think the more likely explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8783">TS</a>]
02:26:31 ◼ ► is that they don't see the problem they really don't see why does not selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8791">TS</a>]
02:26:36 ◼ ► today matures like it's just some bizarre fluke in the market that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8796">TS</a>]
02:26:40 ◼ ► hasn't sold so well yet by what why doesn't everyone want this it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8800">TS</a>]
02:26:44 ◼ ► yeah and I think part of that is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8804">TS</a>]
02:26:46 ◼ ► again it's it's like built into the company's DNA in the company's DNA is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8806">TS</a>]
02:26:50 ◼ ► obviously wasn't always the case they you know where it like a thirteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8810">TS</a>]
02:26:55 ◼ ► persons startup point but they did by the time their identities solidified my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8815">TS</a>]
02:27:03 ◼ ► god what was Microsoft Microsoft was the sixteen hundred pound gorilla of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8823">TS</a>]
02:27:09 ◼ ► software industry right then they they had platforms that everybody ran i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8829">TS</a>]
02:27:15 ◼ ► they basically dominated software fully twenty years if they had they've had so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8835">TS</a>]
02:27:20 ◼ ► much success and that if they were going to come out with an operating system for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8840">TS</a>]
02:27:25 ◼ ► a form factor that people who made devices were going to adopted I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8845">TS</a>]
02:27:30 ◼ ► even look at the early days of mobile we're like palm at one point was making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8850">TS</a>]
02:27:36 ◼ ► Windows Mobile devices right and it's a gay people who were you know fans of POM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8856">TS</a>]
02:27:41 ◼ ► it was as though it was as if Apple started making Windows boxes it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8861">TS</a>]
02:27:48 ◼ ► so gross but that's the sort of success that Microsoft soon and I think still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8868">TS</a>]
02:27:54 ◼ ► assumes you know and and to drop a sports analogy on you it's like with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8874">TS</a>]
02:27:59 ◼ ► Yankees the Yankees have always been like that babe ruth era of the nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8879">TS</a>]
02:28:04 ◼ ► twenties the best him and the years really didn't win a World Series even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8884">TS</a>]
02:28:10 ◼ ► though you know they've won an unbelievable number of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8890">TS</a>]
02:28:14 ◼ ► 27 World Series since the nineteen twenties but it's not a majority but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8894">TS</a>]
02:28:19 ◼ ► a Yankee fan and even as the Yankee institution as an organization they saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8899">TS</a>]
02:28:24 ◼ ► the years they didn't win as the flukes the years they didn't win a World Series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8904">TS</a>]
02:28:27 ◼ ► are always seen as a fluke and that if they didn't get them next year and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8907">TS</a>]
02:28:32 ◼ ► then like when I was a teenager in the eighties they went through this long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8912">TS</a>]
02:28:36 ◼ ► drought we're not only did not win World Series they were they were actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8916">TS</a>]
02:28:39 ◼ ► a bad team had losing seasons wasn't finished second this year by a lot right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8919">TS</a>]
02:28:47 ◼ ► they were you know below 500 they've lost more games than they want but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8927">TS</a>]
02:28:51 ◼ ► think institutionally they didn't they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8931">TS</a>]
02:28:54 ◼ ► never computed for them and they would rather than you know any kind of radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8934">TS</a>]
02:29:00 ◼ ► cleaning house they would just do it they've always done and just spend a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8940">TS</a>]
02:29:04 ◼ ► of money on one guy who they thought was maybe gonna get a lot of home runs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8944">TS</a>]
02:29:10 ◼ ► as a fan it really you know even as a kid I got caught up in that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8950">TS</a>]
02:29:14 ◼ ► thinking but they're made by the mid eighties but I think I wonder like does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8954">TS</a>]
02:29:20 ◼ ► Microsoft even know how to be an underdog exactly that in fact Apple at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8960">TS</a>]
02:29:29 ◼ ► its worst is when it's not the underdog like some of the worst things they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8969">TS</a>]
02:29:33 ◼ ► are when they have too much power control and easily be a little bit in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8973">TS</a>]
02:29:38 ◼ ► check and then have some you know have a fire under their ass River Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8978">TS</a>]
02:29:42 ◼ ► like in mobile not only is Microsoft not number one barely barely number three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8982">TS</a>]
02:29:48 ◼ ► distant number three or four maybe they had a blackberry finally I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8988">TS</a>]
02:29:52 ◼ ► know but I think they might be at least they are they're like a distant number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8992">TS</a>]
02:29:56 ◼ ► three and I don't think they know how to do that they don't know how to be losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/8996">TS</a>]
02:30:04 ◼ ► team and I think in the same way I think it actually in some ways I know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9004">TS</a>]
02:30:09 ◼ ► I am NOT by far not the first person to suggest this but that Apple you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9009">TS</a>]
02:30:14 ◼ ► people who've been there for a long time working on the company still have memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9014">TS</a>]
02:30:17 ◼ ► of when the company was smaller and even for some people who date back long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9017">TS</a>]
02:30:22 ◼ ► was actually believe heard to use that word and I think that's kind of good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9022">TS</a>]
02:30:27 ◼ ► the company overall because it's it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9027">TS</a>]
02:30:30 ◼ ► if they see themselves as the upstart still in the little guy there may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9030">TS</a>]
02:30:37 ◼ ► good for them to keep them from getting complacent and that in some ways the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9037">TS</a>]
02:30:41 ◼ ► incessant media you know any little thing wrong with Apple is somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9041">TS</a>]
02:30:46 ◼ ► catastrophic in there you know going to go out of business again are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9046">TS</a>]
02:30:50 ◼ ► collapse and become small again might not actually be bad for the company may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9050">TS</a>]
02:30:54 ◼ ► be bad for the stock price but in terms further you know temporarily in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9054">TS</a>]
02:30:59 ◼ ► short term but in the long run it might be good for the company because it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9059">TS</a>]
02:31:03 ◼ ► it's it's a way of emphasizing the fact that you cannot rest on your laurels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9063">TS</a>]
02:31:09 ◼ ► keeps it fresh in everybody's mind but I think their dad actually is wearable get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9069">TS</a>]
02:31:15 ◼ ► today's I think the worse available today is when they still act like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9075">TS</a>]
02:31:20 ◼ ► small company and certain ways and they're not it's like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9080">TS</a>]
02:31:31 ◼ ► realize that they're in a position of power now you know a lot with a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9091">TS</a>]
02:31:36 ◼ ► like in their early years at the App Store I think that was the case where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9096">TS</a>]
02:31:38 ◼ ► they were done better with that we don't see so many complained about after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9098">TS</a>]
02:31:47 ◼ ► AppStore rejections being arbitrary anymore but that arbitrariness could fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9107">TS</a>]
02:31:52 ◼ ► when you're a small company and it doesn't fly when you're selling you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9112">TS</a>]
02:31:57 ◼ ► twenty million iPhones in the quarter rights to it stops working when like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9117">TS</a>]
02:32:01 ◼ ► every time you do anything blocking any kind of rule you get like a Justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9121">TS</a>]
02:32:06 ◼ ► Department inquiry that's when it starts becoming a little scary oh this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9126">TS</a>]
02:32:10 ◼ ► really big that were playing with here but i i do think that in last couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9130">TS</a>]
02:32:15 ◼ ► years and maybe this is Tim Cook's personality showing through alot I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9135">TS</a>]
02:32:20 ◼ ► they really ironed out a lot of those offenders yeah I think so too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9140">TS</a>]
02:32:24 ◼ ► well that's a short show yeah that's that's pretty short people commute for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2RoQI/9144">TS</a>]