00:00:00 ◼ ► have you seen did you see the news that former Seattle Mariners shortstop Alex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/0">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► Wow trouble thats yeah that's that's something that some goods goods been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/12">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► yeah we prefer currently I believe is suspended nobody yeah I heard that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/19">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► I didn't watch the 60 Minutes interview I heard that the stomach for that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/43">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► weirdest part about it and maybe the part that again I always when I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/52">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► bring this up a try to put it in terms of people who don't care about baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/55">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► my care about the Justice this guy got suspended for taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/58">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► performance-enhancing drugs for the entire season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► regular season as a hundred and sixty two games he got a hundred and sixty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/65">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► two-game suspension and that includes the postseason just to make the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/68">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► even if I I think it's pretty unlikely that if the Yankees made the postseason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/72">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► and missed all hundred and sixty two games it Adam but just to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/77">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► there is no controversy about it that the suspension explicitly but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/82">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► not include spring training and Alex Rodriguez has stated that he he plans to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/87">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► attend spring training and it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► that the rules that govern Major League Baseball and the Players Association is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/96">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► such that you know if he's on you know under contract he's you know he wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/102">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► come to spring training he can come to spring training which is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/108">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► able to say awkward and I follow a whole bunch of Yankees beat writers on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/112">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► and they really had a blast with it was really funny like their imagined in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/121">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► questions I get asked Girardi like you know like if he plays in spring training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/125">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► and has a good day like what what's the point you know it's like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/131">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► can't use them like it is just is taking up when they change their roster I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/137">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► I want to use a spot I don't know someone who's not gonna play I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/146">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► don't know what they're going to do it's it's just seems you know it just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/151">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► like everything is setup for someone to have the good taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► not show except it's Alex right exactly what that can you believe as well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/158">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► know what people said that the rules are well I believe nobody's quite sure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/174">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► I'm not even sure if things like everybody knows how much money the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/183">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► players make a contract because there's no that's part of the you know there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/187">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► salary cap type thing where you get a penalty if you go over at all public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/193">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► information I'm not sure of all the details and clauses of each contract are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/197">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► public but it's presumed that it's probably you know against his contract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/202">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► with the Yankees that he he can play professional baseball elsewhere but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/207">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► some of the other writers said well it's Alex Rodriguez do you really think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► not going to you know I don't know where I don't know where else they play in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/215">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► same months but you know go over now yeah that's cool that's wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/218">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► maybe go plan that would be pretty funny like somebody said they wouldn't pass to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/222">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► pass into just play in the league softball league in Miami and just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/233">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► na na do switch back and forth between sometimes its roots back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/238">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► between Japan and and the us- throughout the season I think because Mom when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/243">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► were in Japan back in 2000 my wife was ready for the newspaper she were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/249">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► couple stories about baseball in Japan because the Mariners were getting here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/253">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► Sasaki was the closer it was a terrific closer for us for a few years and he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/260">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► played for now we wait no or exploit any way he played for the local teams in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/266">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► near Tokyo and so she went and interviewed some of the players talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/277">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► about him and what the guy she interviewed i cant member who was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/280">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► American guy and then we went back home and we're watching the playoffs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/285">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► your Boston was in the playoffs that year and he was he was running around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/290">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► the bases like that guy so he played in japan and then came against the Red Sox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/295">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► picked him up probably in September [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/303">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► I don't know very strange strange stories but I guess the big news talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/309">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► about news won't take the show seriously I guess the big news this week is Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/321">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► buying nast that would be a right to gymnast I do not I do not either even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/325">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► though I kind of wood wine is decidedly old-school just seems like a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/334">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► but I never really got around to something that I really care that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/341">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► about yeah yeah I work at home work at home so I never liked driving home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/345">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► hoping to have the heat turned up more or less and I do kind of hate our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/351">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► thermostat you I but sure but like three hundred and sixty three days out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/357">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► year I really just wanted like hit up arrow down arrow which work pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/364">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► and the other two days as when it's like how do you switch it from like sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/370">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► turning on the heat sometimes turning off teehee to sometimes turning on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/376">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► air sometimes turning off their and every time I have to do that I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/380">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► totally lost and I might be doing it wrong and I think I should buy a nest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/383">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► figured out you know six months later it's not something I want to drop to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/389">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► under 50 bucks on yeah it's not that even though it does seem you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/394">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► beautiful ya know it's wonderfully well designed it would it would be nice but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/401">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► it's not what I got other problems right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/408">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► many many other problems you know and I've always thought it was a decidedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/411">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► Apple like approach not just because it's a bunch of people like Tony Fadell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/416">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► and a lot of people he's hired it came from Apple and not just because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/420">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► but because it has come into this market and simply didn't just come in 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/426">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► percent battery came in and like looks twenty years in the future from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/435">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► everything else on the market and and nobody had really mean people might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/440">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► mutter under their breath for a while about their missteps but nobody really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► saw that coming just in overwhelmingly better concept for how the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/446">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► should be designed and work which to me is very apolipoprotein it to me that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/452">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► exactly like what the iPhone was to the market completely rethinking the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/457">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► it what their iPod was to portable music players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/463">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► completely rethinking the problem you know screw this ten songs in your pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/467">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► or a spinning CD in your pocket its thousand songs in your pocket right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/473">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► you can I don't know I mean seems like it's a good it seems like it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► buy for Google but it doesn't seem like Apple missed out on anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/484">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► particularly no and the reports are you know and I trust is Kara Swisher I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/489">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► there's a tree code we say recoded we say Reese lash code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/495">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► maybe this is the first time this summer I don't know but it's the first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/504">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► think I've mentioned it on the show and but I thought about it when the name was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/510">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► announced you know this is the former team of all things D is now read / code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/513">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► code is that to me and maybe I watched too many police dramas on TV and movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/519">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► like that but it sounds to me like you know like they're trying to get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/528">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► Rico Rico you know they lined up all the criminals in the last Batman movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/533">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► my wife who is an attorney immediately like eg anytime anything like that ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/541">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► happens I don't or and she gives me either so give me either the Tyrol its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/548">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► know which is funny because when she went something like that legally comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/555">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► up in a in a movie or TV show I will look to her and say is this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/562">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► right is this even in the ballpark and showed you know give me like the look on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/566">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► her face will tell me but whenever it's a computer related thing and i want to i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/571">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► want to not interested in like shut up she has no interest in the plausibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/577">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► nerd and the possibility of their of their computer related happy to accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/583">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► everything that Sandra Bullock says in the flag at work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/592">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► nice product placement in that one movie anyway Kara Swisher Rico and was Kara [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/619">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► Swisher somebody Rico reported that Apple wasn't even really a serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/626">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► better than nobody was you know that when it came down to it I guess you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► as often happens with these acquisitions they were going for a second round of VC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/633">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► and you know rather than take another round of funding Google's I global for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/640">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► 3.2 billion dollars which I believe is you know it's it's all relative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/647">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► and it's you know it's not that much because they spent twelve billion on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/655">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► Motorola but it's actually the second biggest acquisition ever made it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/659">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► overture the ad company I may be getting the name of the ad company long but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/665">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► for five years ago they bought an ad company for three and three billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/670">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► dollars and so it is a pretty big deal you know if it's the second biggest ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/675">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► end and the when they bought the ad company was so clear why they were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/681">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► it because of how does Google make ninety-seven percent of the money buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/686">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► ads online at so of course they're gonna buy other companies where the Motorola [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/689">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► thing is a little bit more you know why exactly what they spent twelve billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/695">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► dollars on this what were they thinking and with nast I think it's you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/699">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► is not quite clear why everybody seemed to jump on it immediately or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/705">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► the people I tend to follow who are a little bit more Google skeptical Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/713">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► cautious you know immediately thought and I have to admit the thought jumped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/718">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► in my head is do you want Google collecting and there's smoke detectors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/726">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► to smoke detectors have you know I don't know who knows what kind of sensors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► presumably they could eventually add cameras to these things you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/735">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► know what i mean but even without it even as the products stand today with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/740">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► some kind of integration that Google would be collecting and tying it to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► or you know their sense of your identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► sure you know when your home for example they definitely you know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/750">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► whole point of nest is that nasa knows when you're home and adjust the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/755">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► temperature accordingly you know that you you save money and you know save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/758">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► energy by keeping the house not running the air conditioner heater so much when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/763">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► do you want Google to know that what could they you know how can they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/771">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► that to further show you you know creepy ads for sweaters yeah so they asked if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/775">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► was in the market for one now I don't I would really seriously think twice about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/790">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► I got her I got a lot of email and Twitter replies and I think I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/795">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► be cautiously you know neutral in terms of the Privacy aspects of it rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/802">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► you know I tried to do the opposite of fanning the flames of of assuming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/815">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► Google is going to be collected as much intruding data as they can get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/822">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► these devices that's not what I did but we entered so I got a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/827">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► replies from people who either a immediately said I i havent nest and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/834">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► I really deeply regret it and I'm thinking about taking it out yeah I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/839">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► a couple more plays like that and be people who said you know I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/843">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► thinking about getting one of these and now no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/847">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► now it is also the case that the sort of people who write me emails or even heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/851">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► disinclined to be well they're not typical consumers in general and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/859">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► there a little bit you know a little bit more on the as Google and Apple sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/863">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► a sort of rivalry you know they're clearly more likely to be on the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/870">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► site and it's also about business model is not just about taking sides it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/875">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► buying into a certain business model where you buy something and it's yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/880">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► without with fewer ties and people may argue with that definition the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/884">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► difference between Google and Apple but you know when you're using Gmail there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/891">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► are there are certain and you know your your sucked into Google+ and your site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/899">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► and all these other things in the other trying to get to get you to accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/903">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► emails from Google+ users that you don't know all this stuff there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/907">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► lot of extra baggage there is my it's always been my concern with it so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/913">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► it's that it's their business moments not nothing about Google itself has come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/918">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► back to that responsibility come back to the business model go long on that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/922">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► think it's a big part of the sort of divide our first sponsor to talk to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/928">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► about her old friends longtime sponsors of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► Drobo Drobo you don't know why do personal storage you buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/936">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► you change physical hard drives in this thing and it just all the Drobo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/946">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► magically makes it appear as a single unit of story where I mean so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/951">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► that has let's say a six terabyte Drobo and it has 32 terabyte drives in it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/959">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► just looks like a six terabyte drive to your Mac and then if it starts to fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/966">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► up what you can do is at a certain point it'll give you these all morning that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/971">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► you can't just take one of those drives out just pop it out like a Ford terabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/976">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► drive in to replace that one and it'll just make it all work it freaks me out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► every time because in the old days you couldn't even disconnect the Finder the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/985">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► finders trained as to be so right about taking drives out right I did this just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/994">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► the other day cuz I took a drive and iMac and put a new drive to speed it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► a little bit old iMac and so I took the drive from the iMac and put it in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► dream home and I've done it several times before just supposed to be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1014">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► and everything works the Drobo simplifies storage so significantly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► it's just it like magic now they have three miles from Mac users they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► Drobo 5d five drive system with thunderbolt and USB 3 they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► Drobo five and and as for network 25 drive network storage system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► and they have the Drobo mini which is designed for portability its emphasizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► size and wheat which is available in 45 drive models with your choice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► interfaces Gigabit Ethernet or Gigabit I'm sorry too fast to set up to a bow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► and after you set it up you just you just can't just ignore you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► do any kind of management on a regular basis so that then just look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► lights to make sure it's not for you just plug in the drives plug in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► power connector Mac and then use the Drobo Dashboard the formatted and off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► indicators show how full the Drobo is each one represents 10% so you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► think about maybe putting another drive in if you have empty bays replacing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► smaller one with the bigger capacity drive it really it sounds too good to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► true and I you know I know that the idea of just drive a good thing it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► makes my heart hurt a little bit but it works I swear it works I've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► Drobo 5d here and it does exactly what they say so you can buy it is the ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► that you can buy a Drobo you could buy let's just say I can read but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► different price but it's sort of like buying a computer if you want to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► your own program for your computer you can do that or you can buy it stocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► with drives already i think im like buying RAM from Apple where they kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► charger premium I think the drive prices that they sell it pretty reasonable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► just for example you could buy 0 terabyte Drobo five min [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► in other words you're going to supply your own hard drives for $549 you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► 5d for $6.99 you can get here is the biggest 120 terabytes thats 54 terabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► drives 1500 bucks and 1745 tea but that's a huge as 20 terabytes of storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► you get a 60 sort of middle of the road with 32 terabyte drives to open slots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► that you could fill later just plug in the drive in and magically the volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► will appear to be bigger when you get to call nine hundred bucks really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► good prices and it's just an amazing device so it you know part of the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► of it is that it duplicates the data across the drives are you having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► device which is how the magic of point out is that no one physical drive holds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► you put a new drive in it is sort of three copies propagates that the data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► can emphasize enough how much did just works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► product they've been around for a couple years and I know a ton of people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► very happy Drobo users to check them out here is where you go to find out more go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► and check it out yeah I've had mine for years now and it's just been a long day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► I have now have a peaceful I'm one of those things are you a little bit longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► but we get to the point where I'm gonna I'm either gonna need to redo the drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► because they're they're just I'm just teasing terribly so I could up to drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► space but I have to reformat it because of the way for men in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► because I maxed out cause I got it so long ago that sought out four terabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► america will never go up to four terabytes never anymore 640 kilobytes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► business models I do that I almost think that this gets overlooked in and writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► about this growing divide because like in the old days when there let's say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► divide that you and I care most about was sort of the Microsoft vs Intel vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► Mac sort of thing you know there was a subtle divide where Apple was making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► most of its money by selling hardware but everybody more or less saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► rivalry is more about Mac first Windows rather than Mac vs Apple vs Dell vs HP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► vs compact by everybody was in it to make money you know by people buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► hardware and software so Microsoft income from windows in office was people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► would buy a PC in the PC and Windows preloaded any OEM would kick you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► up to Microsoft for the Windows version that was included in Intel got paid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► the CPU that was in it and it was all more or less about you know people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► make a purchase and the purchase price was higher than the cost of goods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► that difference was the profit for who made it and so in effect there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► still sort of the same you know sort of an old-fashioned you know this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► commerce is always work whereas with Apple and Google it is very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► for Google is onerous will give you everything for free for the most part I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► mean obviously like the Nexus devices aren't free they're significantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► they are you know an unlocked Nexus 5 phone which it's not exactly a spec for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► spec equivalent to an iPhone I think the iPhone is definitely in some regards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► qualifies as a higher caliber device but it's like $399 to start whereas an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► iPhone is I don't think like $600 something like that but for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► part where people see them as competing it's you know they're giving it away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► you know and it affects Google versus Microsoft to where Microsoft is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► you know hasn't traditionally made devices they just license the OS but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► they do it for money whereas Google's Android is really disrupted windows by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► just saying here take it you know and you can either take it the way we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► to take it with all of our services and stuff and will promote it will give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► that store or you know you could even do like what Amazon is done and take take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1435">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► it as an open source thing and orkut and do your own complete derivative of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► and I think that gets overlooked but they're still there still so you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► nothing is really free world that there's no such thing as a free lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► you do pay eventually somehow and with Google services for the most part you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► pay your privacy you know that you get free email from Gmail but they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► just parts your email working for spam they parser email for everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► then show you add related to it so if you're you know I guess I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► don't use the Gmail interface much but it seems like if you're emailing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► somebody about buying a car you start seeing ads for cars you know some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► obviously a lot of people think that's a fine tradeoff in a willing to do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► it's a very different model yeah and I don't have it I mean I certainly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► with anybody who prefers that prefers a lower cost option that Saturday's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► but it's not what I want from my experience and i also think that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► is no surprise there anybody who follows my writing for the show which not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► surprised by that I'd rather pay for quality and just have the transaction be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► data collection behind it but I totally understand how other people would see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► that way if you don't care that Google is doing that and you think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► great I'm saving all this money on software because I'm getting it all free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► from Google I totally understand that I don't I don't agree with it personally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► don't feel that way but I could see a somebody else would but I feel like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► lot of the people on the other side think that the people who paid like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► pay for stuff from Apple or from other companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► they somehow cannot wrap their heads around then think that you know then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► start down the road of the Cult of Mac and and I think to me that's the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► that's the bigger problem but there's also the sort of Walmart effect that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► we're because Google moves into these markets and and then drives a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► people out of business and then reduces the number of options and then maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► abandons it right and they've done before they've done in certain cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► i think is the example that would resonate with our audience that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► truly def dominate came into the RSS market and just devastated I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► they had had their heart in in Google Reader you know it would have been I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► guess for the better for people who like Google Reader that that they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► been one vibrant RSS reader laugh but what they do you know they came in put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► everyone else out of business by doing everything for free and then they lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► interest in it and it just weathered I mean at least it's coming back a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► bit now that it's sort of a period of growth from something that was squashed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► so what do you think I what do you think Google is thinking when they bought nest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► buying me but I'm buying Tony Fadell as part of that right that's what I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► really am and it wasn't just me trying to write a column that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► not about data collection but I really do think especially for 3.2 billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► which again not that much compared to Motorola but it's a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► especially for a company that i think is only currently at like a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► some million dollars in revenue a year bigger picture and I just I R I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► have never met Tony Fadell but I just get the feeling that he's a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► ambitious than that but it was never about thermostats and smoke and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► were invested Google Ventures was invested and test prior to this and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► haven't read about how that worked about how what that how that month a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► transaction works out when Google Ventures as an investor in something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► that they end up buying yeah and answering but it more or less it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► quite like three billion dollars because a lot of that three billion or Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► significant chunk of israel's their own Google Ventures it's a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► left hand what's the phrase rob Peter to pay Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► so correlated to the next thing I say this why do you think Apple wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► interested will they don't they needed to the tune of 3.2 million dollars I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► mean they have product people and there's no doubt that $25 a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► product I M Google really needs a great product by more than half I agree on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► both parts I think if they really wanted Tony Fadell they would have kept him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► yeah and and and but my understanding is that when fidel left Apple it was not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► may not have been singing Kumbaya you know I think it was slightly contentious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► but I think in a very professional way we're not provide I shouldn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► professor isn't quite right but not in a contentious way late with Scott Forstall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► were forestall yeah he was forced out right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► forced always like a game of Thrones type thing you know you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► somehow there's blood all that sounds fair that's a job even think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► but I think he i think he was taken by surprise is more what I think I don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► dont I don't think for stocks are coming and I think it was cleaved you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► where I think with fidel it was you know like a handshake and you know who did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► you know there was a rumor of the lady that he didn't get along with John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► yeah that comes from Leander Connie's new book which I haven't read yet I do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► should that's really did it really seems almost professionally negligent that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► haven't but but I haven't read that I don't know I might be true I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► you know could be I always thought it was a little bit more with forestall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► even though forestall by all accounts that i've ever heard really had nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► to do with the design of iPhone hardware but he you know until he was ousted he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► was the undisputed leader of violence software you know other than Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► in a dog stem back from the early days of how are they going to you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► it committed to build a phone use and strip it down any use the iPhone OS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► to rebuild it up and that Tony Fadell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► iPod or something like it some other things like a sort of an embedded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► systems type thing based on and build that up as I go home and basically a so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► basically the new wave of iPods would be based on iPhones I well but but also was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► in charge of pods and it was probably clearly becoming clear that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► division would be less important right in the future and would also probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► pushed into using software that was under control right well they were right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► like in the first iPod Touch and it to my understanding I don't even know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► there is a division anymore because I mean who knows what's going on with ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► with nine iPod touch iPod but like the original iPod Touch which came out three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► three months after the iPhone was built by the same people who did the iPhone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1974">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► mean clearly software wise it was i mean I think the only difference was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► they had instead of having an epic member the iPhone for a couple of years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► had an app called iPod the iPod it had two apps music video but other than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► it was the exact same software so I said I always thought that that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► understanding somewhat informed I don't have any direct source no secret you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► know high-level source who absolutely positively confirmed it but when I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► about it nobody usually having to fight taking informed gas and I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► somebody will correct me off the record and then I'll try to correct it publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► but like the story I've heard and told him his number corrected on his moral as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► the dow and Steve Stockman and a few others built you know where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► like two teams one team went to build an iPhone that was based on like a Linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► embedded system things sort of like not who knows with the interface would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► been like but effectively like more like what we knew of that as iPods and burt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► Ron and survey and forestall engineering and design went off to let's take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► Pakistan and build something new that could run on a fun sized device and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► know that's the side that won and when they did you know that was clearly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► new a team and Apple infidel wasn't really part of it and the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► remembered pretty much the way I phrased it done during fireball was that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► know the iPhone is clearly the new a team and Tony Fadell doesn't seem like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► BTM guy and so I wasn't like he was pushed out and it wasn't contentious I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► think he just saw that he was no longer you know when he was leading the iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► division he was the leader of the 18 and up so he left but I don't think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► contentious and yeah and I also think and I think you mentioned the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► that if Apple wanted to build a smart thermostat of their own they could but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► they don't need to buy someone to do it doesn't seem like there's still wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► as important they want to get into home automation then yeah I guess they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► they could have bought them but it seems like they could also just do the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► what stop the lying around which will take a break and take a break and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► come back to it I want to come back to the Walter Isaacson our next sponsor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► apt dot dot I owe you still using pictures and videos to market your app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► are you not getting the downloads or exposure that your appt deserves then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► why don't you try a playable demo instead at a p.i oh they enable your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► native iOS app to be playable in any browser no plugins are downloads just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► click on Play instantly it's super easy embeddable anywhere and takes less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► 30 seconds to enable your app you can create a playable demo now at abdallah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► check this out for best parade it and we don't use it I can't say that we use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► but it is absolutely on a list of maybe and it it really is what they say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► gives you sort of like watching a menu when somebody put like a screencast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► movie of the app on the website except instead of just being recorded movie of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► some actions the things that a palatable the things that are scrollable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► scrollable kind of black magic after say I heard and I was like how can that be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2212">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► but it works so where do you go to find out more go to app APPG . www.apple.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► and and check it out and they have some great demos and you can see for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► actually I'm playing games on it right now it's a you give them your native app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► and they turn it into this thing somehow it's not like some kind of talk it where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► you build your whole app out of you know web page elements or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► you don't have to know you start by building a regular app and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► turn it into the demo it's not like a framework or something like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► have to start with from scratch so if you're an app developer you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► should check it out just to satisfy your curiosity how the damping words to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► computer magic wrapped up and that's interesting what I say we're gonna come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2275">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► back 200 isaacson Steve Jobs biographer guy wanted to terrible decision jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► might pick in this is now he's like like you know now everybody said before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► wrote the book with this guy's never really covered technology at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► doesn't seem to have any and and now is appearing on CNN talking here see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► right now he's an expert technology and innovation the I word man innovation has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► got to be like in their whole since Steve Jobs died this is gonna be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► the defining word Apple news coverage pro or con is you know this innovation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► so he's on CNBC and what did he say well what a crazy stuff basically me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2332">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► basically saying that Google is now out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► innovating apple and this acquisition nest is just another sign of that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► can understand at all because buying somebody is not innovating they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► shipped anything based on the acquisition yeah I guess you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► that they're shipping nests from Google will be as of the equity acquisitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► close but there's no there's no new thing that's come out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► acquisition yet and I think that's nothing its innovative and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► that gets me is a he compares it directly to the iPhone finally hitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► the china mobile network in China Mobile is is not just like another carrier in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► mobile carrier in China and the iPhone hadn't been on it officially things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► they're not comfortable the same thing as an acquisition is a distribution deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► right and it just seems to me like they just happened to be the two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► related to the two companies that are in the news this week so in terms of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► broad scope big picture which company is more innovative than the other what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► could be less relevant than just the two most recent bits of data that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► happened to come out the week that he's on the show like it seems like the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► kind of trying to draw so short-sighted innovative this week this week in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► innovation one of the companies which is notoriously secretive yeah the windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► open about everything right when I get everything done everything but likes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► talk about what it is doing all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► anybody even somebody who would like to make the case that Apple is is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► innovative than any other company that their number one and number two is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► far behind they're not even worth talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► I don't even think that person would want to argue that the iPhone hitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► China Mobile is innovative I mean it's it's another carrier it happens to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► massively large carrier and but that nobody would argue the debts innovative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► from a technology standpoint it's just simply a a very large potential source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► of new iPhone users just a business to business deal yeah I mean I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► anybody could argue otherwise I mean there's a bit of trickery involved where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► I think that the iPhones that they are shipping to china mobile or technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► different as KU's because China Mobile uses a bizarro the short like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► Verizon of China with having a bizarro networks back network and so the antenna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► is just tuned to a different you know but but that's you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► somewhere inside Apple those who listen to the talk show is suddenly crying my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► eyes out because he's probably at the lake Salt Fermat's Last Theorem to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► it working the hardest thing anybody has ever done and we got a gold medal from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► Tim Cook and was told you can never tell anybody take this to your grave in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► Multan group yeah sorry I named antenna engineers work is very innovative we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► value your contribution night so here's the other thing I quoted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► this is a quote from Isaac's house want to be careful with things like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► because it matters what he actually said and how they phrases like the headline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► that CNBC used is Google steals innovation crowd from Apple corn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► isaacson but I don't think as far as I can tell that's not a he didn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► Google has stolen innovation that's the headline they've put on his plan he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► definitely arguing that Google is more innovative but that that phrase that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► they've stolen the crown is down you know sensationalizing it but here is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► actual quote I think Steve Jobs would have wanted as the next disruptive thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► to either have wearable like watches a TV I i shouldnt mark because I'm sure if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► you took the transcript of this show I say all sorts of things that I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► write yeah we're watching this is really hard to do that I think what he meant is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► wearable devices like watches watches all you get almost where this what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► really really just an eleven some reason the band is only three inches it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► really just an 11 inch MacBook Air with letters but it has a hardware keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► or any Zee TV that you can walk into the room and say put on Squawk Box squawk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► boxes in the show on CNBC that he was appearing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► dot dot dot or disrupt the digital camera industry or disrupt textbooks now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► that's a part of my proposed entering fireball that I actually don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► the textbook thing has gone without pets I think it was two years where they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2694">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► the special textbook of aunt and her I hope that wasn't three years ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► thought it was two years ago but I author was the thing called I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► remember I don't like clingy I works after January 2012 education event so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► I'm correct two years ago didn't follow it up last year you know and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► little unusual for Apple it was sort of like a one off event that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► nothing they've done before or since you know just sort of Education invented new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► location and they didn't follow it up last year I don't know I haven't heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► anything about anything this year I don't know how that's going then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► realized you know just seeing him say that I would be curious to hear you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► some people in in education they have a new guy watching them now we should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► was books textbooks but now I guess not but anyway I do think they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► disrupt text books at the various but the other part about digital camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► industry I mean is he not have you gone to any sort of touristy type location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► anytime recently and seen what people are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► with their iPhones and you know as as I'm really trying to get over my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► aversion to it iPads as cameras I mean it it I would argue that they've and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► maybe that's not quite sure but I think it's very close that that seven years in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► the iPhone is disrupted the camera industry as much as it has the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► industry I just think I think a big part of it is that it's called the iPhone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► I personally you how much sense with me for Apple to start making a digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► camera now although I kinda wish that they would but I kinda wish today I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► to a printer but I would buy for me before my wife I would bias somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► thicker iPhone that had a better camera and therefore I by making it the lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► could be a little bigger the center could be bigger need to be more distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► from a little bit more distance from the lens to the center but I completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► understand why they don't want to do that but you know there's no doubt from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► me that the vast majority of photos I take anymore even though I'm sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► testing amateur camera guy on my iPhone but if you go anywhere I mean I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► Penn Station Grand Central Station has the Apple Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► December and had a waiter at a wait for a few minutes and I just was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► walking you know it's a beautiful beautiful Concourse and it just was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► looking at people just people watching and because it's such a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► Concourse and its tourist destination you just people after people after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► people taking photos with their phones and all I can think is that you know ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► there'd be I would say almost no one taking pictures period because it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► know people wouldn't have their s not like sure outside the Empire State [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► Building have always been tourists with cameras taking pictures of the building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► but now it's like people take pictures everywhere and they're doing it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► phone I think it's one of the biggest disruptions ever hears a good way to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► it I if I had if if the phone on my iphone broke its under warranty adds two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► new 5s I would take it to the Apple store but I may not go today if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► camera broke i would i would i would go today and I had those like Dustin and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► camera I was getting these spots on my pictures to her right here right over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► emergency because you know you know you might have a good picture to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► tonight yeah I know if I had to go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► for the next week and I had two iPhones both configured with all my stuff on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► and choose one of one of them couldn't make phone calls and one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► couldn't take photos and now I'm saying literally the phone the phone app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► let's say that somehow the phone calls but the data still works I would take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► the one that working camera it's way more of a camera to me that if I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► hard time thinking these days about what Apple should do next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► really gets to me we used to have it seemed to be easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► five years ago like 10 years ago now I'm in the wearables thing I guess but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► have a hard time wrapping my head around that it seems so much less concrete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► seems very well-defined right now and then apart from that ICC just see too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► many problems with everything else on the television doesn't take much sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► so you got something because I think there's something to be said for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► fact that mean you'll ever Patel wrote a piece a few months ago now I think back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► after the October conference call with analysts were they reported their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► results where Tim Cook was saying again we've got new things coming in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► pipeline and he was Patel was pointing out that ok she's been saying this for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► kind of a while now and I think there's something to that there were kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► getting to the point where they introduce something completely new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► I don't think they have to to do well but it would be you know it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► the point where we're sort of expecting something I think Patel's column on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► is kind of interesting Africa finally made it I forget why some something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► was not so much that the that they should have done something now and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3113">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► there you know which is the layman's screwed cudgel argument against him cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► that it's already a failure because they haven't already shipped something his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► argument was a little bit more about what quick was saying that what he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► publicly you know which is rare because it's not like he's on TV all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► bob and I mean it's pretty much like going to AllThingsD called the reef [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► conference in June or May I kinda disagree and the gas but it somehow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► does I don't know it's like somehow Steve Jobs could do the same thing as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► little bit more depth about it I get the feeling from watching him I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► he's super well prepared I think Tim Cook prepares for those things to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► degree that a lazy son of a bitch like me just can't even because I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► he's he's a little bit more like good like presidential candidate where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► prepared for every possible question and has an answer ready and it's all very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► carefully is clearly an extremely careful Speaker I think it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► shocking if he ever slipped up and said something you know that he regretted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► he's incredibly prepared very articulate obviously very thoughtful but it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► to me a little can prepared like he's already prepared for all these questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► were as steve Jobs was relieved didn't yeah he didn't do many interviews but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► I think it like all things D was often off the cuff I think that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► famous trucks cars analogy I I wouldn't be surprised if he'd made that before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► don't think it was completely wholly new to his brain but I do think just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► watching the video I forgot I just watched it a couple weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► it was a little bit more off the cuff and I think he was a little bit has in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3234">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► his mind worked so fast that he was again I would have been surprised if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► said anything he regretted insofar as hinting at Apple's future play but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► had a different just had a different way of talking about the future than does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► when I can see that there's sort of it may be teasing a little bit yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► thing they used to drive people nuts about jobs and that Tim Cook to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► knowledge hasn't done his job said that and everybody knew it I used to live so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► funny but even he would just completely trashed the entire category as being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► beneath anybody's interest until they came up until they came out it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► the video plane i pod is maybe the best because they think it came to a fever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► pitch the year that they shipped the one that called the iPod photo to color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► screen you could sink photographs to it and then everybody the Kress a somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► about why not play video games like nobody wants to watch TV shows or movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► but then why would a why would you want to look at photos right why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► want to look at photos and then be the video playing iPod with pretty much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► same side street a year later and he pulled it off like it I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► the sort of thing that always drove people who didn't like him not pull it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► off like somehow it was very clear in his head that he hadn't contradicted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► himself like he did he believed he had contradicted himself and therefore it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► kind of felt like he had the same thing with the with the I bet many of you live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► well that went in particular though was it was he jumped on a conference call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► and it was when the first rival tablet started coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► out to the iPad in 2010 so like the iPad came out in February announced in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► February or even later than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► the first rivals were full size until they realize that they couldn't directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► compete against the iPad I thought it was later in 2010 and Samsung came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► with the first Galaxy Tab and it was like an eight inch tablet ur 7.9 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► tablet and he trashed it as having a really small touch targets and stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► if you look at the actual words and he said he wasn't seeing small tablets as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► general concept he was saying these small tablet the ones that are coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► out right now that we've seen from competitors are terrible devices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► they have small touch targets in there too fiddly and it was all true and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► were huge died I'm even by the standards were the iPad still dominates tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3415">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► purchase and consumption and usage today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► 2014 those were the first ones the first Android tablets just for terrible I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► going into a Verizon store to see the first Samsung one and it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► really bad because they had no I mean the apps weren't written and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► the stuff was really really was it was like really tie either the stuff with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► bone size there was really really small stuff it was really fit me I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► fair to say he might have been a little pooh-poohing smaller tablets but his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► scathing criticism was about the actual ones that were on the market but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► you could he could have distracted generals and nobody would ever want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► tell he couldn't he could have just said no never wanted a bit smaller than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► and then probably introduced the iPad and slept like a baby slept alright one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► last month our good friends at the Omni group makers of productivity apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► including the new gravel sex on the graph is a great way for beginners or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► professionals to work on diagrams layout pages for print or create website and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► app mock-ups it for students designers engineers who matter just go and have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► look on the gravel six is easiest way to get your information and ideas into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► beautiful document to share now available on both the Mac App Store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► his own store new features you can mask images directly on the canvas no need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► crop before you place the image they have new fill and stroke styles for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► quick and dirty mock-ups when you have a great new designed to show off but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► want to look as rough as possible to just sort of emphasized that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► wireframe a rough thing you don't want people focusing on the pixel level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► details it's easier to share later access just a click away the shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► layer quote-unquote this is from the talking points A&B special stuff to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► designing for retina just plain enjoyable layers stand tact when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► thanks to help from Europe flying meet its this is that's the best thing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► makes the Indy software world max offer world great just me or genius one man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► showed flying me help them out with Photoshop layers which is never talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► to many engineers worked on trying to to read PST documents you'll you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► see an engineer who's who's a drinker where do you go to find out more go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► Omni group dot com it's it's really really just a fantastic app it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:59 ◼ ► been one of the flagships really really great powerful stuff back when I back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3599">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► when I worked at the company I used to do all of our network turning graphing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► stuff that I used to do and I'll be grateful because they couldn't put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► company's standard was his yo I couldn't bear working I would do it on my Mac an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► autograph on then exported to Visio and I i might be misstating this history and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► if I am sure somebody listens to the show i my understanding was that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► whole origins of on the gravel was that video which is a Windows only in and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► pretty good for a Windows app but it became like a sort of defacto corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► standard because it filled this niche that Microsoft didn't have right would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► excel is spreadsheet and word is the word processing there wasn't an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► equivalent for diagramming and moving graphical elements around on a canvas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► which you know and not like illustrator where it's clearly meant for artists you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► know more of a general-purpose diagramming told a complete non artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► like John Smoltz anybody else used and that the only way everybody's asking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► video format why don't we just build something like that but make it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► like good and I got you know instead of like copying Vizio let's do it the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► thing and you know and and pick some sad story engineer with the job of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► reverse engineering the video file format that was the thing right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► they could remain Visio files but that was the whole idea the idea for the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► was like everybody says this app is great they want them to build a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► version kill them kill the idea by building a true Mac version which would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► be done the same thing with project management to have a great project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► management app right same type thing where instead of copying the windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► style of microsoft project it's led to do the same thing I saw the same problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► but do it Mac style great people you can find out more on the dot com what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► talk about when we still don't know where jobs retail jobs and what's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► yeah yeah I don't know I don't know how else to play it though you know and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► is true and you know I'm so glad that I what I write about on a regular basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► has nothing to do it doesn't have to be anything to do with speculation about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► what they're going to do as as we spend 30 minutes on the show speculating but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► that I don't need to you know I don't know I just feel like the rumor sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► just feel like that such a desperate 30 job large or larger iPad large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► in some sense though I also feel like it and I know that a lot of people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► think it's sort of a joke his number two years ago I think Tim Cook said they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► were going to double down on secrecy and he seemed very sincere about any number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► one always seemed sincere he doesn't really seem like you like I said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► seems like everything he says in public is very well considered and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► fact that he said that did not seem to me to be off the cuff you meant it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► then things happen like you know the old iPhone case leaked in you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► designs of the iPad Mini and the new iPad air leaked and everybody says so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► much for doubling down on secrecy but I think that that's really all about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3833">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► large-scale ramp-up of hardware production in Asia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► noting that all those leads seem to come from and the stuff that they could keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► secret like the design of Iowa 7 they really more or less I mean there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► rumors that it was going quote unquote flat and mark fuhrman at 9 to 5 Mac had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► some like really blurry screen shots like two days before it was announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► but for the most part when they unveiled that video at WWDC in June that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► surprise I mean it was a really serious surprise as what exactly look like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► the visual overhaul was and I think let's face it is there anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► believes Apple isn't working on at least a few major new initiatives well nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► knows where they are had been seems to me like the doubling down on secrecy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► worked that it's true he thinks maybe they're ok I guess so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3895">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► one thing about this whole thing is that I think it's paired us from a week of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► overwrought analysis on that new Apple and the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► yeah what do you think that someone as I liked it a lot as the ad with a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► footage of real real iPad users from around the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► other other than the fact that it that it promotes taking photos with your with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► your iPad I think that I'm telling you I think that ship has sailed I think we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► all got to get on board and iPad camera people love using it as a camera I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► I believe gotta get which is funny it's one of those things where people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► you know we don't wanna see that it's like it's like seeing the refrigerator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3952">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► repairman is but crack does it bother you last when people are using the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► Mini has a camera church it does I think the iPad Mini I do it's all about size I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► think that in terms of software clearly the iPad Mini deserves and should run a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► slightly shrunk version of the iPad's offer it should not be at this site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► should not be running below my iPhone but when you holding it in front of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► face to take a picture to me and maybe I'm just getting more when I see people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► using an iPad Mini has a camera to me it looks more like they're holding a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► ass phone in front of their face it it looks a little weird but it doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► goofy when you're holding the full-sized tablet to me look goofy and for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► reason to and I don't know why this is with the full-sized tablet I see way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► more people who have the cover or the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► slapped down which effectively doubles the size of the rectangle with which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► they're blocking their actual view of everything and I don't see that as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► with the mini I don't know why that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► I don't know when you can see him into you know you can see more of what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► taking a picture on the screen I better I see so many people taking pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► with iPads that I really think that Apple should if they can and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► it's a cost thing not an engineering thing but they should get the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► hardware onto the same camera trained as the iPhone 5s in other words instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► using last year's iPhone camera camera these years I they should get the iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► on the top of the line camera and I suspect the reason is cost because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► iPhones have a higher profit margin because of the way that they're sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► with these subsidies overwhelming majority of them are sold through phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► subsidies and therefore Apple can put higher you know that's why the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► has the touch sensor and don't they can they can put more expensive stuff in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► but I think so many people use it as a camera that it's it's almost like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► should feel obligated to do it helped them take better photos because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► gonna do it anyway and I've also heard from a lot of people whenever I bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► this up a lot of people have told me that their family members in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► why why would you do this especially like people who have a phone and then if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► you have an iPhone and an iPad you're taking worse photos if you use your iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► but I've had a lot of listeners of the show and readers of the site who said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► that they do no family members they brought this up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► and the reason is that because the screen is bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► the preview looks better because it bigger and so they think they're taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► better photos picture because it looks better to them as their framing and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► that's why when they go to the seashore in there you know taking pictures of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► beach they use the iPad because they think they're getting better pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► bTW if people think of somebody who owns an iPhone 5s and iPad air thinks their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► iPad has a better camera in theory if they can make it work cost wise I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► think that Apple would do well to put the leading camera tech into the iPad 28 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► inch iPad pro do you think there's a bigger I've had that's a good question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► somebody like two weeks ago and I MacRumors picked it up into a coded and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► the answer was an analyst said you know they're working on the 12 inch 11 or 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► inch iPad pro aimed at the enterprise and that matters to me is crazy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► what I can see how they ever come out with a product aimed at the average rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► what sent how would they even do it that would be like and it doesn't seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► that's what I don't understand why enterprise users will be crying out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► a larger iPad anyway no I don't understand I don't understand what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► they would think that why a bigger I've to me if there's a one market you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► want to target it would be like the sort of creative industry which is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► natural for Apple you know that people who are using it you know to edit video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► in the field or to draw or something like that you know all the people using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► it is illustration you know I could see that as a pro market but I don't see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► I don't know I think even the name I Pad Pro is a non-starter yeah the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► I can think of the last time I came up and asked me this after something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4251">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► just for entertainment purposes on the couch watching a movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► we've had we used to have her basement was finished and that's where we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► our big TV and we have water leakage so the whole thing's been ripped up for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► long time now and so we've been relying on the TV that's in her living room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► which is smaller and so actually when I sit on the couch because it's so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► away and its smaller my iPad my hair on my lap is bigger field of view than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► TV so I actually have resorted to watching stuff on the iPad instead of on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► the television and less and less you know it's me and the boy will sit next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► to me often will do something on the iPad I'm not always do you usually watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► on TV front but but I've found that a nice way and you know that's linked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4312">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► that's a different way to disrupt I'm just done just saying this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► thinking it really but to disrupt the television market is to still go upscale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► rather than start at the top and try and try and you're never going to get a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► of action in that market because those things turn over so infrequently a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► screen TV and replacing them fast but if you have something that's on your lap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► that you're using a watch entertainment and maybe that's fractured younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► people question I did see one of the most interesting things I saw in the CES [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► coverage I saw was somebody linked to some off brand new number you've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► of some Asian company with kiosk on the floor at CES [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► where they the sign and said TVs but Android tablets like Android tablets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► I know Benedict Evans in the last few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► analysis of this whole that all part of the industry has pointed out that a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► of the hundred $150 tablets that are sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► you know it's a little often sold in Asia to it you know people in Asia not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► not not a big thing in the USA yet but even when it is it's it's really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► being used as a sort of touch screen TV to watch YouTube and other video that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► you get on there and that isn't totally in in a in therefore not that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► compare it to iPads but that it's a very different you're selling the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► short if you just call them all tablets and drop percentage and talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► market share because it's such different use cases even know maybe when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► turned off they kinda look like similar devices maybe think about it I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► it was you know growing up you know when we were kids portable TVs were always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► oh yeah I had a friend who had like a little three inch diagonal TV in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► kitchen black and white and you know it you know and this really dates as I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► I know that you know younger listeners at the show really going to wonder just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► how old you are but I mean it was the TV signal with the antenna hooked up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► you know but then they can watch you know like the local news and stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► the kitchen or in Sooni Sooni eventually I think so yeah but it was like I handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► handheld television I think that probably you know the shape of a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4495">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► iPod with gold just drive iPod but we do know that we're talking you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► the eighties we're talking about like and not the wrist watch them but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► that one my friend had an occasion was a class picture to me it was a big device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► you had to put it on the counter you know you couldn't put it up and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► you know like you said for in terms of field of view and iPad on your lap is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► know it's bigger in when you're on an airplane its bigger field of view it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► bigger screen than any back of the seat screener have ever seen easily iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► screens way bigger than the TV screens I've seen almost airplanes I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► many yeah the many as it may be roughly the same but possibly bigger I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► they're usually like six seven inches and always so damn screen has a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► lousy screens that the colors are terrible everything's all washed out way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► better to know and when you're you know you're there is a perfect example where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► your cramped and you know it's good that the iPad is going to be close to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► face you're gonna get it pretty decent field of view not bad I usually don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► like watching movies and playing but I love watching TV shows movies usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► you know deserves to be on a bigger a real bigger screen that TV shows it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► great yeah so anyway the Apple TV I don't know could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► I don't know what else they would do with any rumor of future sized iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► devices that I every time I read a report about it I want to hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► explanation for his what is the pixel resolution to make it possible if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► really know what you're talking about if your source for this story knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► they're talking about they should be able to answer the question of what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► the pixel resolution going to be because Apple to date with every single device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► has stuck to to effective screen sizes day while they drew the iPhone a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► bit in one direction by changing the aspect ratio though it still effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► the same pixel size the virtual pixels not the actual pictures when they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► retina they decide every virtual pixel is now four pixels and pat is the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► so to me if they make a bigger iPhone for example and I think Marco is perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► explanation of this other people have that they would just do the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► they did with the iPad except instead of shrinking it they would grow it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► would make an iPhone with the same number of pixels as the iPhone 5s and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► iPhone 5 but that they would just be 264 pixels per inch instead of three hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► and twenty-three so effectively would be the same pixel resolution as the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► air and they would just cut as you know I got four point six inch screen out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► it and then grabs would all just work and developers would have to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► anything that everything would just be a little bit bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► and that makes total sense and it would also cause a connection with all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► people who read gadget and gizmo in the varied because it wouldn't be you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► 1080p 1986 they be like this Android phone is more pixels but trust me if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► screen is gonna fly poder it's good enough for an iPhone here but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► want people say when people say that they're going to make a six-inch iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► well then I don't understand because then it doesn't work then it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► work out they'd have to come up and in theory you know of course it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► that they'll say to developers hey now you have a new got another one avenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► size to support you have to you know do you want your apt to look right on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4735">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► you've got to code and design for a new size with a bigger iPad I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► they would do that because they've already I think the iPad error is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► already running at the minimum number of pixels prints that they could use to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► call it that if they just just blew it up by another two or three inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► diagonally it wouldn't really it would start to look a little bit on rent or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► they could make it bigger but then say the developers now you have a new size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► to support but they haven't done that to date you know when they went retina they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► didn't see you in New size does support they said you designing for the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► size but now everything should be you know twice the resolution so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► don't understand what they would do for a bigger I've had like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► yeah I think it also fits into the pipe dream cuz I could see that he would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► it someday but there's a contingent of people who desperately want Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► complicate the iOS UI by allowing you to say run to AB side-by-side and I i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► by that I'm hesitant to call it a pipe dream because as the future goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► maybe that's inevitable you know as iOS grows and needs and I certainly don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► deny that at times it would be useful and if the device actually had a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► screen might make sense but I'm just saying don't hold your breath because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► that would make it more complicated there's no meu I don't see that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► see that as a priority right doesn't seem like thats it certainly hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► helped the surface that much right and don't get confused starting to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► about like what people like us who have loved and and derived using Macs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► Windows and other you know dozens of Windows overlapping and apps running at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4855">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► the same time in command tab switching that that we don't have any problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► with that level of complexity don't underestimate just how many people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► felt lost four decades using you know Windows and Mac computers and the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► reason they love their iPads is that tap a nap there it is full screen tap the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► home button go back now it's close and that's it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► just a certain Jason still read up about how he likes writing on his iPad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► it allows them to focus so there's also so just like an inability to really be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► in one app at a time and actually focus on that out and I think it's a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► natural I think you know because it's what it was designed for I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► single app do whatever you call it for window view full screen view and Mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► weird it's always weird every almost every at the only app so I thought I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► thought I was going to use it a lot and i dont i dont use the only apps where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► our apps like iPhoto or Lightroom or a movie or something like that where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► are doing something where you would have been using a window that was truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► maximize like in the windows sense where it's you know you know taking up as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► as green as possible anyway but like for writing for web browsing or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► like that in there were doing or watching a video obviously but why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► you know used to be screened before there was an official full screen right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► method my parents put their iMac into full screen mode couple weeks ago and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► was the most confusing from her really well in the annals of John Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► helping out his parents with their Mac over the phone it was really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► baffling and I do I love my mom and dad dearly but it really got to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► where has started get angry long story short is that they had been running an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► older iMac and I think content 58 or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► so it didn't have the App Store because it denied the App Store there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► real easy way to get on the may be there on 10 60 on the last verse in the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► Store and then the new versions of Mac OS 10 only came out on the App Store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► I you know I know you drivin do that but it just never heard they were happy they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► were satisfied there sure was working fine and then the hard drive died they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► needed to get a new Mac and so help them set up a new iMac and now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► running Mavericks didn't have full screen mode before I guess they click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► click it by accident but they didn't know they had clicked and all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► wanted to know was how to how to how to close a male just click click click the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5034">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► red button there is no longer read what is above thing what does it say that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► was like well what's above what's below that Apple menia there is no app and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► really didn't occur to me that they would accidentally go into full screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► mode I don't know why you know but somehow like the fact that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► telling me that they didn't have an apple and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► eventually figured out I gave you move your mouse all the way to the top right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► is there like blue set of 2 hours that thank you thank you john now is the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► the best part is they never never grew irritated with my inability to help them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► their frustration but it just to me was an interesting thing because they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5095">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► both have iPads now and they love them and never ever call me with any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► questions about their I pets right and their iPad apps are always running in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► full screen mode but that you know the way you get in and out there with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► they don't even think about it whereas you know I think that this I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► was even called it was part of the quote-unquote back to the Mac you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► in this area is now we have iPad iOS style full screen mode confuse the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► out of just didn't fit to start trying it right now just love this one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► it doesn't stop promise it doesn't stick so like if you switch to one that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► in full screen like wheat wheat but I don't think has no I switched over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► tweet by then it goes then everything goes back to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► know it's a long story short it really really hard to add something after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► fact when you've started to accept looked like it didnt work in Safari but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► it did work email started with the system design that the basic system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► design is open windows and windows are these draggable stackable rectangles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► you know which as you know metaphor that has been useful for us for 25 years in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► 30 years growing right now the Mac is thirty 30 years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► but it's complicated but then once that's your basic model having it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► know just full screen mode just doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► yeah there's just there's too many apps that don't do it in the same way I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► think iOS could support running some apps in little windows that stay around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► on screen all the time I really don't think you can't add windows to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► full-screen OS and I think the full screen mode of action can really add it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► to a window unless I think the only people who use it are people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpJhGw/5233">TS</a>]
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