00:00:00 ◼ ► so it's theirs part to this is the experimental episode of the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/0">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► we're recording 48 hours straight no break in it and see what happens to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► the flow of this plan is one of their some really big news next week that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/13">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► possible and we can try to guess what it was and pretend like it happened and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/18">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► just talk about it as if it had really happened so we got that that X Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/25">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► finally be shocking I don't think there's any room for them anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/31">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► was there ever really there was when the Mac Pro was huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/40">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► physically huge like expects a side just there was a physical I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/45">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► if it makes any marketing sense and I don't even know if it makes any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► engineering cents a day could have put something in to it you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/56">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► couldn't have it into a Mac Mini but you know I think that there was at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/62">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► felt like maybe there was room for a mid sized model with mid-range specks in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/67">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► way that like an iMac that's what everybody wants they want the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/74">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► without the display ran with expansion slots and everything else basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/77">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► basically they want they would they want the iMac in regular mid-tower case with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/83">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► with a couple of GPU slots that people can put big game and GPUs with 300 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/89">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► and that's that's of course Apple will never make an if if there was any hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/95">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► before the new Mac Pro came out that certainly shattered it totally you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/102">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► had some good episodes of ATP talking about the Mac Pro yeah we talked about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/108">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► way too much and I don't even have my mind still waiting to be shipped its it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/114">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► hasn't even shipped and you ordered like day one right like well not really I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/119">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► order through the business rep at the store was within a day's well sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/125">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► it was my word of the day after they became available but then I got cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/131">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► feet on a couple of my very expensive options and chickened out and change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► order like two weeks and are three weeks and so I can I i imagine that that reset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/138">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► my position in the queue so I now I'm getting a slower one later I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/144">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► was the best idea now but it's a lot cheaper I suspect there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/150">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► listeners of the show wasn't a TPO sonar regurgitate the whole time and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/158">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► don't and you have never listened to the accidental tech podcast with Marco and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/164">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► john Kasay list that's right that's that was the best just joke was that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/168">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► best of the three of us to forget temporarily I didn't but I had to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/178">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► the joke great show really good show and comes out on a regular basis as opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/183">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► to an irregular basis like this one when you guys record we record every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/190">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► Wednesday night and then we really so I added Thursday morning pass off to Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/195">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► for final edited for finally no catching things I do if I let it go to the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/200">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► or Friday morning and you guys broadcast live we do then and I guess used to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/205">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► that if we did that for most of the run of the old talk show or if it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/210">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► stretch of it but I guess it was a big stretch of river do live and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/215">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► it depends on the kind of show you do if it's like if it's like an interview show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/227">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► like the old pipeline and my command space now if it's like that kind of show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/232">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► I don't think it really adds anything but if it's if it's a kind of show like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/237">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► what we do we're just three guys bullshit about tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/241">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► I think your show you could probably do it to it really adds something where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/244">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► adds that the number of people who listen is not big you know our show gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/251">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► a usually about two hundred and seventy-five listeners to the live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/256">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► stream which as a percentage of our whole audience is really pretty small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/261">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► but those are like two hundred and seventy five of the most devoted fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/265">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► you know those those people are like they'd love the show so much to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/270">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► to a live and they've used to provide really good feedback live and so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/274">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► we're like kind of fumbling over fact or URL something though pasted into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/278">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► give it to us it's like the best Siri because it's really smart people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/283">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► exactly who completely understand the words coming out of your mouth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/289">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► exactly and our domain experts in the things that you're talking about just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/295">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► the only thing is with live listening is that it you can take it too far which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/301">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► like it it's also a distraction for the hosts like I it's often hard for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/305">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► not pay too much attention to the chat room and also it changes the nature of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/310">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► the show changes the way it feels to do the show because it's like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/317">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► there's an immediate immediate audience there and overall I think it's a net win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/322">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► for the kind of show we do because you know if if we start digging ourselves a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/328">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► little hole where we're totally wrong off days about something you get stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/333">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► it gets stopped you know very quickly as opposed to you know if you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► starting ourselves to a whole now we are leaving an 0 for two weeks and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/342">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► could be WAY worse with the chair of this year's fair night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/347">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► you know the one then I deeply miss about the chat with the talk show was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/353">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► episode titles yeah that's that's a given to like that's one less thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/362">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► have to try to keep track of your head along the way as if you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► pick three or four words that were uttered by one of the people on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/370">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► that makes for a funny and apt episode title the live together as I stop on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/374">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► this and I forget everything we said you have to go back and hope you think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/385">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► good title whereas with the live one we never once didn't get a a grade title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/390">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► added that it was hard to pick one because it'd be like three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/396">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► really good ones right there be like 70 suggestions and you know 410 decent ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/401">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► and a handful really good ones and it was great and yeah that's it that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/407">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► we have still their shows great Sunday after a nap how I do this because it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/411">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► don't do anything difficult it's just complicated it's you know the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/415">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► set it up it's like this pile of tools it doesn't it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/420">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► generous sized well and so I'm not at all no well to encapsulate the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/426">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► discussion and and you know it really is it's it's like the the origins of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/433">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► show right it was you guys wondering whether Apple's even gonna do another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/438">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► Mac Pro two ago it wasn't necessarily the origin of the show it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/442">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► always the running joke of the show it was it was our logo since the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/449">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► to show and I had to make a logo is like you know there was a logo like Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/454">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► with the new badge on it kind of a joke with the fake update we got in 2012 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/459">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► you know it was it was always ready because Casey was on a Mac program that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/465">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► mean John Siracusa are and have been for a long time and so it was always a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/471">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► like when are they going to do a new Mac Pro and then once once they announced it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/477">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► was a little what's going to be like and what's it gonna cost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► what are the options gonna be an added it out the car how does it perform is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/485">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► worth it what you know is it still right for us and so there's a whole vast ocean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/489">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► of possible discussion that nobody except me and John Siracusa care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/495">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► people care and it's such a good it's a perfect mix it's a perfect example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/499">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► how the three-way mix of the show works where you and John have both into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/504">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► Mac Pro and care about it deeply but for very different reasons right and Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/512">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► as someone who doesn't have one injures lives off I think two MacBooks right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/518">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► he's got like maybe this is one is a MacBook guys going to MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► MacBook Pro at home in her home on a work day and night speaks to clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/528">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► speaks to the masses in even the masses of people who listen to our show I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/535">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► sure there's no doubt in my mind that most people listen to our show their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/540">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► main mechanism as a MacBook of some sort if not an errant approach definitely I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/543">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► mean just look at the numbers that they sell it so it's a good Mex but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/547">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► you know the gist of your multi-episode long discussion knows that John is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/553">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► to hold off I think so he at least has so far he hasn't ordered it is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/558">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► the main things I mean it's hard to summarize the John Syracuse argument but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/564">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► one of the main things though is that he's always been into gaming serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/570">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► gaming and you know his ideal Mac Pro would have either have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/575">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► configurable with gaming GPUs or somehow you be able to you know as an expert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/582">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► and it doesn't that it comes with these pro GPUs that are optimized for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/589">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► night professional video and design type stuff which is very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/595">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► right gaming GPUs and I and the high end ones do have decent gaming performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/600">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► but not only is it not cutting edge but you pay $1,000 for it to be decent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/605">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► not cutting edge right you paid enormous surtax if your interest is in the gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/611">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► you're paying for something that you're not getting any use out of many one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/619">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► and i'm just paraphrasing circus here so I'm gonna budget because he's impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/624">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► to paraphrase too but with gaming you just want the frame rate and you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/629">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► be able to handle lots of pixels it once and do these things and if there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/635">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► minor things that are imperfect in a render its 160th Ave a second if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/639">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► whereas if your rendering out a video you don't want any imperfections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/646">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► anywhere it's in your optimizing for a different case yes I mean and a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/650">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► adding almost all the time the pro GPUs are really almost the same or identical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/659">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► hardware as the gaming GPUs but with very very different drivers ran very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/663">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► different software in LA Times will have substantially more RAM maybe or faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/670">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► or something like that but it's it's the same usually based on the same hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/675">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► and you know it's it's like the Xeons you know with Intel's I get the base of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/679">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► the same harbors the consumer stuff but it's now with some modifications and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/683">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► know possibly different platform optimized for a totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/687">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► completely purpose where's the pro ones are meant to that every frame is perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/692">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► and then do them as fast as possible and the gaming lines are do it as fast as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► possible and secondarily make them look as good as possible because if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/700">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► the last thing you want is a stutter between frames blown away whereas if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/705">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► your rendering out of movie the last thing you want is a frame in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► that's right and in with the new Mac Pro it even weirder because there's two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/713">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► these GPUs you have to order them the same and if you're in Windows they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/721">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► they can work together to both render games and parallel but if you are if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/727">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► you're using Mac OS 10 one of those GPUs is basically always off unless you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/733">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► doing OpenCL competition like it one of the GPUs does not control the screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/739">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► and cannot control the screens at all which is weird so it's the new Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/745">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► is a very lopsided machine it you know the old Mac Pro was as big on graceful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/752">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► generalist which is what PC towers always have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/760">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► it was it's as my prose as big workstation with tons of slots on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/763">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► hard drive bays different CPU options even though they were all they were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/769">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► fairly expensive Xeon chips but still a bunch of NCP options much RAM slots just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/773">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► you could do a ton of stuff with us you could configure and all sorts of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► ways to be lopsided in whatever way you need it to be or it should be a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/781">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► generalist with with lots of future expansion of just you know hard-driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/788">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► the new Mac Pro it comes pre-configured to be lopsided in one particular way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/793">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► because having tons of GPU power way more CPU power and and not even for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/799">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► gaming as you said it tons of GPU CPU power for computation and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/804">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► professional type ax than anything else and three moderate moderate CPUs they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/809">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► better than what you get an iMac at most things but not by a huge margin was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/820">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► doing super parallel things and get the very expensive very many course chips so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/824">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► it's it's this machine that used to solve a lot more roles for a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/829">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► now they've they've reduced that and they've they've made it more specialized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/835">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► it's less of a generalist now and so they've made it more specialized in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► way that now fits me a little bit worse and fits John Siracusa lot worse the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/843">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► wounded yeah I have to say I'm really you know i bug you offline about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/850">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► that I'm need to buy a new computer aided by a new man and I was waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/857">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► Mac Pros i've been waiting for red and that's a whole other discussion you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/863">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► have covered thoroughly is the winner desktop size displays 24 27 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/866">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► displays gonna go read and a Mac Pro the one it is now a new is not the answer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/871">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► at least not yet and so why wait any longer I feel like the answer and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/879">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► really became clear to me after listening to ATP is I should just buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/886">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► 27 inch iMac because that way that's always put me off on the iMac is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/890">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► want to just i dont wanna get rid of the display when I get rid of the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/896">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► I'd rather put money into it invest in the display that I keep four more years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/899">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► that I might keep the whole computer but I think it's just not worth worrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/903">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► about this price wise because I think when Retina Display place for max come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/909">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► out there gonna be expensive enough that the cost of 27 inch iMac today is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/913">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► not that significant probably and you know my theory is that is that for k is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/919">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► coming first and probably pretty soon probably this year too you know if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/926">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► want to do it true 51 twenty-by-twenty 88 is dunno what is truly to X the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/932">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► current 27 inch size there's a lot of technological problems with that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► now mostly relating to bandwidth limitations of things like a thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/943">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► in various phases but for them to do for K [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/948">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► everything's in place that for that right now that they could take a chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/953">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► for Canon Rebel display today that works just fine in all the new MacBook Pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/956">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► not the heirs but all the new MacBook Pros everything that's wonderful too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/963">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► all the MacBook Pros and all the new Mac Pros and that could do software scaling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/968">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► the way the retina MacBook Pros do software scaling up to bigger better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/974">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► resolution so all this is in place for that to happen today so that we can kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/978">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► of see that's gonna happen anytime now you know I would expect an iMac update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/982">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► until this fall when the new Intel CPUs come out so I would say you know I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/987">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► update this fall has a decent chance of going right now and anytime now there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/991">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► might be a Thunderbolt Display a standalone portable display that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/998">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► be for k so I think however you look at this it's pretty clear that desktops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► going right now are going to happen soonish you know whether it's this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► or next year that's when you talk about buying a computer especially you buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1015">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► a home computer cause your current home computers what six years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► yeah right so you know this is not a frequent purchases so looking at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► from that point of view to end and you're kind of person you will care alot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► about revenue when Redknapp come down this time you will probably want it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► so it's hard for me to say to you you should buy this new computer today when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► we are probably within a year of desktops going right now in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► meaningful way to promise that I broke the cardinal rule of computing of by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► computer which I used to follow pretty religiously which is when you need a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► computer buy it and have take a little bit take like a three-month window of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► common sense in terms of being able to tell if there's a good chance that new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► ones might be coming in the next three months or so and maybe wait but no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► and and and conversely if the one you're gonna buy is like three four months old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► you know it's going to be okay for a while and then just buy it in which case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► I would have bought a new probably about a 27 inch iMac like three years ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► I no reason I didn't then as I thought retina might be my enthusiasm for retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► displays is such that I vastly I convinced myself that they were coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► weeks sooner than they than they are especially once the iPhone 4 came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► and which was the first written advice and I just immediately thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► everything's gonna go redness and it's highly possible that my enthusiasm for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► it is causing me to make these predictions too aggressively you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► and I'm not going to deny that that that is very much a possibility here that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► could be way off on my time on as well this could be three years out on seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► that happen this year I've said this before I remember it was like 2006 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► 2007 is a while back and the WBC and had a session about resolution independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► Mac development and has been for iOS even existed and they were like there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1132">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► the one year and they wanted you know that you could use a set of bitmaps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► can use PDFs for the element and cable sasser I we just had lunch to read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► max they're coming soon they're probably gonna be out by the end of summer we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► so excited and cable of course you know the parent guys they made like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► Absa retina ready they had like retina ready resources in their Mac apps like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► six years ago because cable and you know it was so excited about it and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► seemed like a Apple's tell us to do it and you know a lot of times and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► tells developers to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► developers will be alright maybe get bit on the ass because the thing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► were pushing it for comes out oh yeah and could not have been more so yeah I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► think if you if you want to keep your computer for more than a couple of years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1193">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► I shouldn't be an iMac that you buy today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► know whether it's an iMac that you abide this winter is coming winter or whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► it's a Mac Pro the bi-state you plug in a fork a display to when those come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► that's that's up to you that's that's very vague idea I think the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► things to do in your shoes is just to wait to see how this plays out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► you know it you're right the cardinal rule of computers used to be a jerk by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► when you need it because they're always there was about to get better but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► are certain major leaps that kind of sucks to be on the wrong side of and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► if you can foresee one of those major league service very obvious of one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► the major leagues is gonna happen within the next year I would that's usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► you know I feel like if I by the IMF i buy the iMac this month and retina IMAX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► or retina MacBook Pro Mac Pro Plus porque display goes right now comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1255">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► give it today could find somebody that i dont no setup for Jonas is a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► machine or something very very well that's the thing to a mean one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► reasons why I ordered this new Mac Pro and why I ordered a fairly modest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► configuration of it why change the order is because I have that out too because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► my wife uses a Mac Pro she just tons of heavy photography work with these giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► raw files that are cameras now shoot these days and so she is she's had a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► Pro for three years now and so I know like if a really crazy update comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► in a year that that I really really want maybe it needed for maybe the CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► actually did take a meaningful leap forward with the with the house while he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► pees when when those come out you know if there are some major new advance in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► year in the Mac Pro Line I know I can give this one to my wife upgrade her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► what she wants any way of celebrating her and then give myself the new so I at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► least have that out so yeah that's possible but an iMac is a little hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► give away that easy to give away a laptop to like your fam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► you know your spouse's grandparents parents whatever it's a it's easy to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► laptops desktops are are much more of an imposition on people and so it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► harder so I don't know I start feel like you know if I get bit I get paid so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► said when we were chatting about of them is as much of a pain in the asses the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► package up in cell shape like a MacBook like packaging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► sold it to somebody online what a pain in the ass that is the ship iMac oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► I mean it's it's terrible i I did that actually there is one of those sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► that buys old stuff from you know whatever when you sponsor 505 I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► the name of it but I still at that because it was here that they sent me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► the box and everything was just so an even though like you know I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► it's like selling a car to a dealer versus private sale like you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► sell a car private sale and get a bit more money out of it but it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► it's really not worth it a lot of the time yes people terrible I I have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► that twice on never do it again I will I will always sell my car back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► dealer now because it's just i know im getting a little bit ripped off by it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► but it says it saves you like months of dealing with flaky people and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► terrible there is an actual convenience to it they give you want to call it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► convenience charge is as opposed to Ticketmaster where the convenience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► charge I wish I wouldn't even mind paying it if they if when you go to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► something at ticketmaster in it and they charged June 1754 convenience charge if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1435">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► they just put an asterisk after it and then at the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► put a footnote that said not actually convenient I wish I would pay it without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► words today should call the dealer to dealer markup that you pay on trade in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► is it's a convenience charge cuz they know they know exactly what a pain in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► unless you're like in the case we're late your brother or your best friend is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► actually in the market for the used car you're looking to get rid of yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► even then I would you would you sell your car somebody you know you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► guess I would be a little reluctant to do it because you know it's it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► the whole don't mix business with pleasure where you sell it you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► sell it in good conscience that the car has you know no problem is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► actually aware of your just won a new car and then all of a sudden you sell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► and the transition goes bad and you feel like a jerk exactly you want you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1495">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► be like out of your life you want a clean break when you get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► something that's so potentially financially burdensome to somebody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► don't want to be involved so yeah I I would not recommend that you do you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► an iMac right now especially because you don't you know you upgrade so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► infrequently I I can I can foresee maybe this will be broadcast clam chowder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► see I can foresee you buying the iMac you know you know in a few weeks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► months no that's my radio I want to see you buy the iMac in three months before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► the IMF and the new antenna come out and you're gonna say how I really want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► new one and you're not going to get it for five years like this is going to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► at your desk and you're going to be like I want to have bought the new one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► you're not going to care enough to actually go through the hassle of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► it it's like listening to podcasts from long enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► are probably very familiar with the 11 inch MacBook Air that you have that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► have been saying you've been trying to sell how long as a year old yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► remember you first attitude and Benjamin TV some idea of how long it was it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► last 11 inch air that doesn't have a light up keyboard it's a 2010 model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► right right yeah did I guess that's the year and so as soon as the light up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► keyboard came out I really thought about buying one just to get that light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► keyboard because you can't see the keys on the icon and our players plus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► keys is such as they light up it's actually there there'll be made like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► some clicky you know like the older 11 injuries have like a squishy or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► clicky keyboard so you have this computer the you've been dissatisfied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► with 43 years and most probably it is the smallest laptop that Apple sells it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1614">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► would be the easiest thing in the world just sell to somebody and ship and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► have a different people who have probably gave you giving you offers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► since you first mentioned in a podcast three years ago and other to find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► right so I i dont buy your iMac read story at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► well that's more likely that we'd figure out you know senator for Jonah somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► else in the house and see if there's if you if you foresee a need for that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► the next year where that would be the right choice as opposed to a laptop or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► something then that that's a valid way out for you I think here's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► thing I wanted to talk to you about before you on this new new Mac as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► add a review if one were buying an iMac I'm intrigued by the fusion drive which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► is the SSD smallish SSD combined with a spinning hard disk that the filesystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► magically make superiors a single boy it combines some measure of the speed of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► SST with the greater capacity of a spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► and you you mentioned almost offhandedly that one terabyte fusion drive is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► too bad but the three terabyte one is no good that do you agree with that no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► mentioned that the DA one terabyte SSD a real all as D one terabyte as a study [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► which is now available on the max most of them at least that that while it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► more expensive and smaller is way better than a fusion drive ok and so you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► lot of people when fusion drives first came out it was great it was it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► is a great option no question it is a fantastic option and I would say anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► buying an iMac has it it's only available in iMac and Mac Mini rain yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► I think if you're not going to get into do it yourself then with the terminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► command right on the Mac Mini iMac well I think not positive I think the drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► both have to be internal I don't think it'll do it on external so you pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► much stuck with like old Mac Pros iMac Mac minis so no positive anyway when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► would even make any sense with a portable because I mean what's the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► a MacBook that that the start of a drive is tied to an external drive I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► theory you could do it but there's no way you can also you know if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► one of the older MacBook Pros with the optical drives you do think we swap swap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► it out for the hard drive bays to the you know it's it's it's a decent set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► anyway so fusion drive whether you get it built in or whether you do the happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► commands to enable yourself on the command line drive is good and if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► going to buy a computer where that's an option if you don't want to go all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► way to the mall SSD or you can afford it or if you need the space of the fusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► drive then do the fusion drive it is way better than the hard drive and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► I think the charge a couple hundred dollars to get it over just a hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► I actually haven't Informatica tell you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► new iMac fault hard drive is one terabyte spinning hard disk if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► to upgrade to a fusion drive one terabyte so same storage capacity but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► now it's a fusion drive its $200 out on the terabyte add 350 so it's a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► and fifty more than one terabyte definitely worth it and oh so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► that's great and then here's the pricing on a pure flash storage drive so 256 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► gigabytes is $200 says the same as the one terabyte fusion drive 512 gigabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1854">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► SST is $500 out on and in the big 12 1 terabyte SST is $1,000 out on right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► you can see you know this does get expensive quickly right and then all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► time act that I would not want i I would definitely think twice about replacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► nine months from now comes up to $4,000 so you can drive is very good it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► substantially better than hard drugs no question but it isn't as good as a peer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► SSD and this is not I refuse to drive for a while before I bit the bullet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► bought a big SSD so first I did over the last few years I've thanks to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► freedom of the old Mac Pro I've experiment with a lot of these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► things I first had two different small SSDs over the years and I would you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► you know the home directory on the SSD or do everything on there then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► assembling certain big directories off onto hard drive and stuff like that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► done a few arrangements there then i did i do it yourself using drive and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► did a real big SSD with with no more spinning disk in the mission and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► those things are very different and the real few the real SSD that has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► spending just involved whatsoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► really is substantially faster and most importantly it is more consistent fusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► drive has this you know this buffering system where most of the time it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► very fast but then if you do something that doesn't expect the time cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► if you try to write too much data and the right before faster than writes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► out you can start you can hit these things were all of a sudden things will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► get a lot slower as it has to use the spinning disk more than I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► would need to you can rob Peter to pay Paul for a while but eventually Peters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► right because the way fusion drive to work days they have this this system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► where they they move frequently used blocks to and from 828 gig SSD and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► the reserve I think 48 gigs are two gig something like that some some small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► single digit number of gigs they reserve that as a write buffer so all rights go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► to that first and then get before it out to be spinning disk overtime and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► they saw that there's a system going going on behind the scenes of shuffling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► stuff back and forth but the idea is it tries to put the most frequently used up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► onto the fusion or onto the SSD but because the SSD is a tenth the size or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► 30th the size of the hard drive it's not be able to fit everything on there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► so it's gonna get wrong sometimes and you're gonna have to hit the hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► here in there and makes for a very uneven experience in my in my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► at least like it's a very inconsistent uneven thing worse where you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► fastest most of the time but then all of a sudden something will be ballin page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► and you'll hear the heart of this this is slow come on yesterday you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► it's not as good so it is way better than a hard drive which is that slow all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► the time for everything it's way better than a hard drive but if you can afford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► to get the all SSD it is worth it and I take issue with any kind of comparison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► that said you know what I was putting out comparisons with like you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► you can figure a Mac Pro and iMac with equal specs price difference is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► pretty small a lot of people take issue with that saying well know you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► the fusion drive at the same thing trust me it's not and that's why you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► you're gonna make a price comparison between the Mac Pro and iMac you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► really do a fair comparison but they both have all SSD storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► one of the reasons I've been had this MacBook Pro that may mean desktop since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► 2008 is that exactly when did it but I spent a while though like 2010 or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► also with Dan yeah two years after about it I replace the hard drive with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► necessity as the start of triumph and its 200 gigabyte yet to 200 gigabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► drive and it made such a difference that it felt like I bought it felt like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► bought a new MacBook Pro it felt like I have a brand new machine is way faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► than the old one so it feels still feels to me like a three year old machine or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► four-year old machine not a six year old machine because it was so much faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► just replacing that that's a great example compared to an iMac either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► because I Mexico faster drives portable mobile drives but it is still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► difference i mean that more than anything you know I i've been analyzing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► and writing about debating between laptops and desktops for years now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► always faces questions myself and one of the reasons why you justify going Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2154">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► instead of just getting a laptop was there is massive difference between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► performance of desktop hard drives and laptop hard drives because that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► hard it can be so much bigger could you so much more power they were able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► just completely mop the floor with her performance now though that gap is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► smaller now the gap is gone effectively because as as these are tiny and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► don't use any power even the good ones are trying to use any power so you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► the exact same as DS or these pci-express models you the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► ones between laptops and desktop so now you have the exact same disk performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► and it's amazing it's a shockingly fest thousands of times faster than on hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► drives so the gap between laptops and desktops has closed more than anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► because of SSDs the other thing that it heralds is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► is like the end of of physical feedback from your computer buying we talked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► the previous episode re-recorded you know about the old days of these in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► ninety-seven and modems and floppy drives and you know spin even today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► spinning hard disk you can hear it does that sound of the hard drive grinding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► and your nineties PC when you did anything right but older heart drugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► were a lot louder and louder see you mean you feel it you could feel a floppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► physically you can always feel on a Macbook when I had a DVD and CD you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► could feel the spinning you know we don't think about it with iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► iOS devices have always been assessed but you know as hard drives died out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► it's like the last physical you know there's something about that where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2271">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► still associate computers and computer that you using hard you can somehow hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► field and that's no longer the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► like the new Mac Pro it has it has one moving part the fan that's it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► crazy if you look even most Macs have more than one fan right so far the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► Pro fan is pretty darn quiet and there's a pretty decent chance that the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► ambient noise in whatever room you work in you won't be able to hear the fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► yeah and that's amazing you know that and you know that's one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► why they don't have any hard drive bays and even bother with that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► have you know any certainly optical base that I don't even care anymore about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► that one of the reasons why is because they were all the events they were able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► to have this disclosure by just having one central place for all the heat goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2335">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► and then one nice big quiet fan to blow it out that's awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► inspire so many reasons that's just cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► and it's it's an amazing feeling that you have not only a computer but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► highest-end computer in the lineup that only has one moving part and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► yeah I don't even mean to imply that I'm nostalgic for it and I'm not quite to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► Syracuse in levels but I've always been annoyed by loud computers allowed fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► and certainly like honey certain frequencies of anything you can hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► that's one area where I was when I was building my own PCs back another PC guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► I I spent so much money and bought so many weird things to try to quiet my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► computers down I've I had like these mounts for the hard drives that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► these big rubber band kind of gas continued so you die hard overbilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► suspended and rubber bands and I had Dynamat supposed to use on car doors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2395">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► installing car stereos that vibrate too much I had Dynamat lining my case and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► the special like carbon material from Germany that was supposed to meet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► case even quieter and these giant heatsinks these big giant slow fans I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► spent hundreds of dollars trying to achieve the volume levels of every Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► even even towards the end of that time even Dell's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► evenly PCs from regular vendors are shipping that were quieter than what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► could build yourself cuz they would get the big fans the big things there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► constant battle and computer to be fast and have this you know hot GPU and hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► CPU and three or four hard drives or do you want to be quiet and now you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► make that choice anymore now they're just all quiet which is fantastic and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► think it's the sort of thing that once hard drives really do go away and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► know an awful lot of people you know anybody with a MacBook Air who really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► lives off it on a day-to-day basis for drugs or thing of the past or I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► the new MacBook Pros right there all SST yeah all the right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► in hindsight once that happens the idea that your computer used to make noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► and you'd feel it's fitting it vibrating is gonna seem so anti-dilution you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► like it's a Rube Goldberg contraption you know that there were like marbles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► going down a slide that shot over you know a flame and ran into a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► dominoes that were set up and if they felt exactly right and your data would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► come out as it was intended that pretty much just ahead I really do think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► know even my son is 10 but certainly 44 Adam it's the idea that your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► spot her a faster read the one here it is here it going as it worked and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► you know you know how you get worried in the old days you know to get worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► when you stop hearing your computer because that meant you know something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► terrible had happened it was actually feedback that was useful and to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► you know the thing that not only not only did we have all this motion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► physical noise when you think about what what is hard it actually do so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► know before before I guess is designed experiment with 15,000 rpm desktop hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► drives from the Western Digital Raptor series that nobody should ever by its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► not worth it you know like to think that he hears this drive that even in laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► it's it's pretty amazing that this works at all this tiny little drive that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► these big platters in them that spin at over 7,000 rpm sometimes 15,000 rpm for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► the good ones and have these little tiny heads floating like nanometers above the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► head an enemies above the splatter that spending the super fast and so will head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► moves around like a hundred times per second trial like read instead of as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► passes them ahead I mean the idea that works at all that that ever worked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► it works reasonably well for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► that's amazing that that is I think even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► goldberg Ian than than anything else like just the way hard drives work at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► all and the fact that they do work at all is shocking yeah my parents iMac old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► iMac went belly-up before Christmas and the hard drive went belly-up but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► were due for an upgrade anyway and and so I talked him into you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► typical people they just thought you should fix it because you don't just buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► new computers but I talked him into getting a new iMac instead I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► explain how hard drive works to them and i really I don't think they believe me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► it seems ridiculously and the more you learn about it the more crazy an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► impossible it seems right and even know SSDs do the same thing and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► result is equally amazing knowing how it works makes perfect sense right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► there's there's some complexity in like how their controllers work but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► fundamental part of how the data is stored in the red as is way simpler and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► much more sensible sounding you know nothing too like a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► reminisce about the iPhone one enclosure that all the of all the iPhones the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► best feeling one of the one I like the best of the best of the best in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► hand was the iPhone one and I disagree with that for a major reason that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► people never talked about it ran warm and I normally a pretty warm hands so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► it's uncomfortable if I'm holding something warm for a while the answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► to sweat that sucks and so I was never that come with a fun one because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► not not not even heavy duty stuff you were just doing anything on an even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► browsing the web for more than five minutes maybe it would be like warm to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► the touch and uncomfortable I don't know if that's fair though to hold that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► against it because that's it's I think when people say that they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► as like let's just say like comparing all iPhones ever made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► power off as just physical objects that you're going to carry and judge before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► you even see the OS because it otherwise you get in there you know you certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► get into performance which gets better year-over-year significant than what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► the stat they gave it the 5s 4248 times faster and it's not even close it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2753">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► absurd but you also get into things like well you know I was 1.0 was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► rudimentary didn't have apps you know i i i think when people sing the praises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► of the original iPhone a minute early in the industrial design sense that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► know and even not even counting screen resolution just what it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► powered off right as long as you try to plug in headphones that were not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► phones did so with just you know that the shape of the jack has a little i'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► like i'd like cut one of the plugs down like cut up some rubber on anyway so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► know looking back I the heat was annoying right will I think now you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► talking about how computers have been getting better as the whole world has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► moved primarily towards laptops as their PCs instead of desktops over the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► fifteen years or so I think it's very we we've got this period of laptops even up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2816">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► until two or three years ago where it was perfectly normal for me to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► pretty hot and so if you were using a laptop to do something even moderately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► substantial just for youjust yeah just using it regularly no typing emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► gonna browsing the web you know maybe playing a video and that's tough that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► considered like you know moderate usage or even like using these days it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► get noticeably warm and it would radiate heat out the keyboard right into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► hands and so that was a graceful it's not like all of our old vibrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► linking computers of the old days it's ungrateful it uncomfortable it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► annoying and even now a navlab have gotten so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► that a combination of both power management getting very good so it use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► it creates less heat but also the the ventilation designs especially of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► retina MacBook Pros ventilation designs are so good that it doesn't even get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2874">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► noticeably higher than normal use anymore I mean you can make it hot if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► you really try but you have to really try that we call everybody calls him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► laptops notebook but it should use a laptop or notebook and the argument in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► favor of notebook has always been the most people don't actually use them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► their lap sort of a stupid word but I usually if I'm on an airplane do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► actually put it on my lap because I find it easier to type with my risks at lab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► level than my wrist said like chin level on the train from me and yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► where I really remember noticing it you know that it would get actually hot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► it's it's as yet one more area where we've we've kind of made incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► strides and knowingly talks about it that computers are way better now than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► they were even a few years ago for the most part because the most popular kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► of computer the laptop is finally getting better design and more efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► with heat generation so that's like 11 more big everyday annoyances that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► becoming better it's just clearly overall massive increases in energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► efficiency because it's also battery life has suddenly gotten way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► exactly like year over year like buying iPad error a year ago and then all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► sudden you're way behind on the battery life curve from the ones that are out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► now it's very different than the days when you know the year over year thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► was wow that one so much faster now he's a confounding it upgrade your air I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2972">TS</a>]
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00:49:53 ◼ ► native Mac OS 10 software it's unlimited I'm proud as much data as you have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/2993">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► your Mac you can back it up and it's uncomplicated David iOS out to access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► and share your files so you back up your home back to back plays you are out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► the house you're on your iPhone you can get access to any of the files that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► back-to-back place right through the app you can restore one file or all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► files easily with with their restore features it's founded by Acts Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► engineers it runs native on your Mac its updated for Mavericks and and that to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► is such a huge deal because it's not just some kind of janky thing that meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► for Windows in there have a Mac client this is a service that is for Mac users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► by Mac users / engineers and it's no nonsense offer there's no add-ons are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► gimmicks or additional charges you just pay $5 per month per computer and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► get unlimited on throttle back up for that computer couldn't be easier and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3056">TS</a>]
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00:51:08 ◼ ► just $5 a month your sleep so much better with the peace of mind knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► that your whole Mac is backed up now just backed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► backed up online at your house so if the house burns down get robbed everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► that could go wrong right there if your back if you're only backup is say a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► machine hard drive connected to your Mac you don't have to worry about it you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► got something out of the house you know I used it's nice because like you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► you are paying somebody else to worry about your backup it's no longer just on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► you and it's somebody who is a professional at it exactly I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► before back please I used to my office I plan was that I had to set of super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► duper clone backups from my stuff and every time I would go home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► Amy's my parents live in the same town I would just take it with me and swap them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► out with a copy stashed in my parents house but whatever stupid because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► forget sometimes I wouldn't have it up today and then ended up with like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► one it was off site was eleven twelve months out today so I didn't really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► an offsite backup like anything and I thought well maybe I could make it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3147">TS</a>]
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00:52:37 ◼ ► bank on regular basis who does not want to do you want to take a hard drive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► the bank and then get a manager I mean that's sounds good and the bank is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3161">TS</a>]
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00:53:34 ◼ ► big-screen iPhones talking up speaking about old iPhones and I found this place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► because I don't feel like it should be that complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► hopefully it won't be that people like the rumor mill is all over the map on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► this and I guess it was on Friday the Wall Street Journal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► the big news of the day on friday was a report in the Wall Street Journal that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► Apple is working on to bigger iPhones for this year it was one of them bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► than 4.5 inches diagonal and one of the bigger than five inches diagonal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► that one's further along than the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► double-blind number one I don't understand how they think one that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► preliminary development in January has any chance of coming out this year like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► that's not how it works and I know what the original iPhone it was a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► seat of the pants in terms of that industrial design was tweaked a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► months before it was unveiled in January [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► and even some of the major components were updated between when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► announced in January 2007 when it went on sale at the end of June that year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► like the biggest one is that in January when it was announced it was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► have a plastic display right they made that switch from plastic to gorilla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► glass in between January and June which is a huge deal but that's the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► iPhone sold like a couple of million in the first year I can I must say that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► easy I'm sure it was difficult but apple sold 51 million iPhones now they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► all five veces but they sold 51 million iPhones in the quarter that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► finished they they they can't change things a few months in advance any more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► like that's part of the problems that they phase in this era when iPhones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► iPads are such selling such remarkable qualities they have to get things up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► least a year in advance if not more and they have to only do things that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► high yield because they have to make so many of them that they know they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► afford to use like cutting-edge green technology that is going to be low yield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► for the next 18 months they can't do that on the iPhone they can do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► else but not the iPhone so I exactly I completely agree that they cannot have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► low you can't do it they might be able to now next time they come out with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► big new thing you know i watch whatever they're just pick any new thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► probably gonna start a lot slower than people think like you know armchair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► analysts who want Apple to come out with it and i watch on Apple TV that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► just as big of a business as the iPad or iPhone within a couple of months with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► that nothing ever works that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► new things start slow and building in hindsight you know the iPhone has grown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► pretty quick but you can take chances with yield and stuff like that on a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► product that you can't on a revision to an established and super super popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► products like the iPhone doesn't make any sense so they're right there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► wall street journal printed something that to me doesn't make sense and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3416">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► should know better like you know as reticent as Apple employees are to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► you you know any kind of secrets or what they're working on it it's not that hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► to find people who let you know that the time basic timeline on hardware for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► devices is really surprisingly long it's you know I might say they can't change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► a year in advance but it it's long you know whatever iPhone or iPhones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► they're planning to unveil this year they've been in the works for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► years not months probably at least 18 months you know and it's another example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► of that mentality is like when the iPad Mini came out last year the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► and and some people attributed to the Nexus 7 or something like that that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► shipped four months earlier it doesn't work like that they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► it has nothing to do with you know trying to defend against copying other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► people who've made smaller tablets they just cant there's no way they could make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► a new device and four months it just doesn't work like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► here's the thing I don't understand this and Bloomberg had a story a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► months ago half way similar to the wall street journal thing about two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► sizes of bigger than the current iPhone display so maybe there is something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► it I don't know there's two different somewhat reputable news sources that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► printed somewhat the same thing but the Bloomberg story couple months ago said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► the glass was gonna be curbed on the edges either although I think and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► ambiguous which way it was going to be curved like concave or convex and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► expressed skepticism about that during fireball some readers suggested that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► was thinking about the wrong and it probably wasn't concave like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► these Android phones with curved screens but it might be the other way so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► they could taper the edges and make the edges seems they're right but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► expect that if there's a curve in the glass or a tape from the glass it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► probably not in the area of the glass that is the display it's probably on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► borders its largest class right exactly and what thing to consider so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► and I know it used to be the common game where Apple would do this this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► controlled leaks to the wall street journal and possibly Bloomberg in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► past and so there is a certain style there's a certain style of Wall Street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► Journal story about Apple stuff that you could pretty much identify as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► controlled intentional leak usually to set expectations in the market order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► confirm or deny some of the hype etcetera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► do you think first of all do they still seem to do that or has that changed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► the Cook era and second of all do you think this is one of those things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► think it has changed a little or at least it hasn't happened recently that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► and at the very least be I don't think this is one of those at all I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► kind of reads like one that's gone through two or three levels of telephone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► so the big one I think the best example of one of those controlled leaks i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► is weeks in ahead of the original iPad introduction and I'm pretty sure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► wall street journal had a story that you know that Apple is definitely working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► a tablet computer and that they're targeting a price under $1000 it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► and everybody took that to mean that that marketing is for its gonna cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► $999 to start and it just it was very clear and there wasn't anything you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► there wasn't anything else to the story really to the league was there working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► on a tablet and it's gonna be under a thousand and everybody took that to mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► it's going to be $9.99 to start to probably you know with configurations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► you know $100 above that trier capacity so then when the iPad came out and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► started at $4.99 it felt like it was half the price everybody in the room had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► been expecting the whole event want you know was 45 minutes into the event and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► everybody was like oh this is pretty Cordova's $1,000 and I was in their late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► $4.99 and it felt like wow how Apple just totally wowed me with a price yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► that was masterful this doesn't seem like that because this doesn't seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► they're setting up any kind of any kind of way to its a good controlled leaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► from Apple to me is one where it seems like they're setting up a way to under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► promise and over deliver and whereas saying just saying that there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► bigger iPhone coming out doesn't do either of those I think they've they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► also used them in the past two kind of calm people's fears of what they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3715">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► not be doing much to say like you know don't worry we got this right now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► like yeah we know we're supposed to make a bigger iPhone don't worry you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► if this is a controlled lead i think thats the reason for it not not to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► of petitions to too low and over deliver but to tell people like you got it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► you don't have to worry you don't have to bail on us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► platforms if you want a bigger screen don't worry we're gonna make a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► screen finally you know that's the reason so I don't think it's I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► rule it out and for just that reason I guess that is there is a logical reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► why they might the two thing though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► confuses me tremendously yeah that's that's also the fact that they're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► there's two new ones I think not only is unlikely but it's really weak story the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► way they've written in the goal is really kind of lots of stuff is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► development doesn't mean come out you know and then the way it's written with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3776">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► lie not with actual screen sizes but may be larger than X ray so the smaller or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► larger than four and a half the bigger than larger than 15 I would have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► liked that so that's a weird way to say it like that so it's it's kind of odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► that's why I think it looks like this is kind of been turned a couple times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► something some somebody somebody heard something wrong or interpret something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► wrong along the way and it is entirely possible that one explanation for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► for the leaks for the story in the journal in the 18 Bloomberg which kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► of matches is that they come not from Apple but from Asian suppliers who make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► screens and it could be that Apple has placed you know not significantly hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► they're ramping up production but significant they're trying to build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► for multiple screen sizes and you know that they've built prototypes of four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3835">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► point eight inch iPhones and 5.3 inch iPhones or or while the suppliers man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► may have no idea what the devices are that they're built that they're buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► though for pointed in touch screens and 5.3 inch touch screens and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► guessing that therefore bigger iPhones and because they've bought both they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► passed this along and the Journal and Bloomberg both presume that just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► Apple as prototypes that there are going to be real products shipping products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► that to me makes sense that it's just they're just under arrest just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► completely misunderstanding how Apple does product development right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► know the other thing to look at the timing of these announcements and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► and the skill the iPhone the iPhone has reached a scale where it's very hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► surprises with hardware anymore and you can look at the last few releases as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► evidence that usually you'll start getting parts leaks for the iPhones like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► three of six months before they actually come out it's a pretty far ahead of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► I mean didn't we have I think we had parts leaks or one of the other the 505 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► s think we had them like in February when it was that we had looked so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► in advance because they have they have evolved so much manufacturing to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► this kind of roll out on this massive scale device that they get like somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► always leaks in this massive amount of people involved here and so whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► they're planning on doing with the iPhone it's gonna it's gonna creep up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► gradually you know it's going to be very clear what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► hardware wise physical size wise it can be very clear what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► i think is it worth taking a step back and I know I've written about this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► Marco dot org I don't know that anything will say is new but I feel like if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3955">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► put it all together it'll make more sense of the big picture and the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► thing I think you have to ask is what problem are you trying to solve with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► bigger screen i've because there's no way they're ever gonna make it if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► doesn't actually solve the real problem right now it in one sense it could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► be a pure marketing problem and I think that this one is it is to some degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► true where there are some number of people who when they decide what to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► the next phone that they want a bigger iPhone are bigger display them that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► iPhone has today and that means that they're not going to buy an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► they're gonna buy an Android or maybe a Windows Phone but there's no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► choice and there are people there is absolutely no doubt in my mind there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► people who are who that's like the first thing on their mind when you're buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► your next phone and it could be that they're the phone they're replacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► they've just considered the display to be too small and I think that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► important amount but I think that's sort of been your argument that you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► reason you believe Apple it probably is working on a bigger screen iPhone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► just that there's too much they're leaving too much money on the table by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► not selling to the people who that's their primary decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► oh yeah and and that's actually getting its gonna get worse if they don't dress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► this as a friend Ben Thompson points out on on strategic curry I get this wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► close enough Ben Thompson site as he pointed out recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► apple's next wave of growth is gonna happen in Asia and the bigger screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► devices are very popular there especially the high end which is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► Apple competes the think things like the Galaxy Note sell very well in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► the Asian countries he noticed truly humongous I mean that's like 5.7 I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► on the tablet or smartphone scale it really is closer to tablet phone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► and and so for Apple to continue not to have a bigger screen phone in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► lineup as they grow more into Asia that's going to that's going to hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► them more than it has in the USA in the us- [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► there are lots of these big screen phones and we see them BC comparisons to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► see the iPhone losing those comparisons and we see some people who buy them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► percentage-wise as far as I know the data shows they aren't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► incredibly popular like there are they do sell but they're not like insanely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► popular compared to how they are in in Asia so it's certainly more pressing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► for the for that sales and marketing reason it's becoming more pressing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► time goes on for Apple to address this purely because of the different markets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► much there now gonna expand so that's that's one issue but there is no it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► certainly still a marketing issue even and even in the USA and other places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► though that I like us where we've seen and I've seen so many people who buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► Android phones instead of iPhones because of the screen size and this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► applies to the supposed a whole spectrum from from geeks all the way down to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► know extreme novices people who want a bigger screen because bigger screens are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► nice for a lot of reasons you know it's it does lead to a bigger phone which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► bad for some reasons but for a lot of people the bigger screen is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► important and is often the biggest buying factor for why did hit the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► they pick that because the tradeoff math is multi variable it's not just a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► one factor this way one factor this way decide it's very many variables 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► phones but back in the flip phone era when when when the Motorola RAZR can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► help when phones are pushing to get smaller and smaller and smaller what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► they were mostly doing was getting thinner it wasn't a people didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► require their phone to be super narrow and short what was really cool is making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► it then because that would make it fit more graceful in a pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► but having this beautifully bold honored other we wouldn't care but everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► does so you know the the thing that this was on the phone to be small but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► only to be as thin and they need to be thin and fit racial in a pocket but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► can make a pretty nice sized screen that still puts gracefully into it like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► jeans pockets and as long as the whole body of the phone is relatively thin so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► I don't think you need to have your phone's be small anymore and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► think the market is validating that has been touting that for years that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► know there's going to be people who like the smartphone but people like bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► screens and and they do more with their phones now and more computing type tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► were there were big screen helps and so the standards now totally different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► I think people really like for me I mean would you buy one if if they made one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► save an inch bigger so you know or almost five inches I can't answer later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► than four and a half I can quote I can't answer that because the next thing did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► before we talk about this which is OK marketing lies there is a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► problem to be solved but you can't just solve it by saying make a bigger I've it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► has to date has to be a specifically has to be specific and has to have an exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► pixel count and here I thought about two-thirds of it without the well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► here's the thing you when people say they want a beer from there's two ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► to make a bigger phone one would be to make everything bigger in that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► saying I loose terms you're solving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► a vision problem that in in the easiest way to do this and many people does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4313">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► originally you've even written about it but let's just say it would be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► the to make it like the iPad Mini type editor the exact same pixel count so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► 11:36 vertically by 6:40 horizontally and instead of it 332 pixels per inch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► would be like the iPad airs resolution 264 pixels per inch it comes out to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► four point nine inches diagonal four point for the software would just run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► and so the relationship between big iPhone and smaller iPhone would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► exactly the same as iPad Mini type ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► air and the problem that it would solve is that if you think text is too small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► to read on your phone and that pictures on quite big enough you 1 video to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► little bigger but the exact same resolution by the bigger one that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► what everybody wants in a bigger iPhone though the other problem you could solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► is putting more information on your phone hacking more pixels in and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► know Apple doesn't compete on specs of the time in fact famously sometimes does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► stubbornly dozen but there are a hundred funds with true 1080p display so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► like 1920 by 1080 pixels which is a lot more pixels than an iPhone 5 45 s so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► Apple could go that way and make a five-inch phone with who knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► exactly would be whether it be 1920 by 1080 or something that moral line with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► the dimensions that they've used before and keep the resolution at 332 pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► per inch or even increase it go to like 400 pixels per inch like HTC hasn't some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► of their phones and you know just make a new size target for developers you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► and then you'd have the same size tax that you're physically same size texts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► you're looking for but you'd be able to fit more of it on screen that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► you know you can't one phone can't solve both problems and I don't know why I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► cant see you can't solve both problems and if I think Apple is more likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► go the I i say judging by past history to go the first root meaning keep it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► 1136 by 640 and just make it bigger and then they have a big phone and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► would keep sell it alongside a new next-generation iPhone you know 64 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► screen and it would be like the iPad and iPad Mini and the tech press would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► and they did have like strokes they don't the connections because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► resolution is so low and you know Android phones have 1920 by 1080 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► true 1080p all this stuff that sounds like exactly the sort of thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► that when the tech people go into connections over the specs that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► like something Apple would do well you know going past a certain dpi you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► just wasting battery life and cost you know like once you can no longer see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► pixels anymore there's not a lot of reason to go much past that point so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► like you know there's a believe there was a couple hundred funds came out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► had like a 400 dpi screen yes that is way past that point where that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► is great for marketing for two nerds not anybody else but it's great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► marketing to nerds but you're killing the battery on the GPU 44 no real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► benefit that people going to actually noticed you only really marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► towards like the birds and Engadget readers who don't want a great screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► they want to 1080p screen right so so that's that's you know problematic so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4554">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► I'm not saying Apple doesn't have to go any further than where they are now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► don't know where that point is but certain that point existing I'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► and if you look at the iOS and you know hence you know you said earlier with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► like the high DPS report that tobacco is 10 hours like a hint of what's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► will you look at iOS and the hints of what's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► you see both sides you see auto layout being added in iOS 6 and I think well of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► multiple phones sized it'll be easier support which is true and then I was 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► comes along and it has dynamic text size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► well now they can just keep the same resolution blowing up and let users just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► text i systemwide which is also true so their support on both sides of pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► much equal weight you can look at the iPad Mini vs iPad air that's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► example saying well they didn't like this here and it works just fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► nobody really complains although is the opposite direction so there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► tissue so I don't know I I think it would it would solve a lot of there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► lot of the demand for bigger phone I think would be solved both ways and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► they could do the easier way of saying well we'll be there but also the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► destruction major product such a major platform for developers that they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► just go ahead and enter the size and said hey developers suck it up you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► and if they are planning on adding two models if that actually is the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► whether it happens now or or we get one now and one the next cycle maybe those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► two models both have the same resolution that is higher than the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► resolution right pics ok so maybe that's how they do it maybe they they add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► higher resolution than what we have now and they apply that same resolution to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► both of those new models one size bigger than the other so maybe that's how it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► the iPhone again it's a bigger far they can go all these different ways one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► thing I want to mention also I read this email for the show I got an email from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► reader I haven't gotten permission to use his name yet for now but he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► pointed out that you know a lot of the arguments that that you and I have both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► fielded along with other people is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► well they can just take one of these screens they're making and you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► the penalty manufactured just cut them to different sizes and to make a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► size screen of the same dpi but as a reader pointed out that's kinda weak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► because historically they haven't really done that because a lot of times when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► they change when they bring an old screen density to a new size the change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► the screen technology to so he pointed out that the 3G S had had a TN display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► and iPad Mini was IPS so that that broke completely and I'm like you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► some of them had different substrates like some of them would be LTPS some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► them will be exact amorphous silicon for someone like you know that there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► these different technologies that are being chains also so the iPhone 5 and 5s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► while they are at 332 dpi the same dpi is the iPad Mini the iPhones have full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► RGB spectrum and they have that thing where their fused to the glass which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► different than the cutting the thing but there you know I don't know the point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► like all the stuff is different enough as as technology progresses as a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/4767">TS</a>]
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01:32:42 ◼ ► have by having that nice Shannon and forehead area they have room to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► components that need as much data as possible including things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► camera probably the biggest and least flexible one but you also the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► button has metal space there the connector the speakers the ear pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5576">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► like all these things they have the most of the camera things that like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► can't make dinner without making them a lot worse so it seems weird to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► so many nobody else I should say no but I'm sure there's some Android phone does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► it but it seems like most Android phones put the camera on the back about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► the Apple logo is on iPhones I don't think that's true is it i mean i i dont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► usually it's like centered in like a big blob but I think he was on the top right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► think if you take a look around at where they are a lot of them it's it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► front it's low enough that it's on the other side of the display whereas the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► not backed by the display right which i think you know it lets the center go as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► far back as the glass write what you know so it it needs that you know it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► make the best cameras as a possible you too much depth as you're going to allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► and and that's that's what you get it and so that's a good point you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► they might go make it smaller like that but like one big question would be what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► what happens to the home button that right now the home button the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► button is crammed in there and the whole I don't see them making once a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► symmetrical that have a smaller chin and forehead or vice versa so I think their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► appearance wise they're gonna keep that symmetry going but if you make them any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► shorter than the home button becomes a problem when you have to make it smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► or move it somewhere else like you know there have been always rumors maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► would be on the back with the touch sensor or something like that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► sounds that are kinda sucks I think it doesn't sound good I'm guessing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► unlikely so I don't know why I think the way to have it now with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► gives them the luxury crammed in a whole bunch of big stuff in a place that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► not damaged by the screen or or that needs access you know either talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► access at the home button or the needs of you access at the front camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► you know you can make heaven looks through a screen but the kind of sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► in this kind of not mature enough to really do well yet so you know it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► how could I think we're gonna have this basic design for a while so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► googled some images take a samsung galaxy s for the camera is not as low as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► I was saying it's not quite as low as the Apple logo that they have a Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► logo there but its lower it's not up in the top it's clearly I think if you flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► that around the other side it's still backed by the display but they also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► the whole thing is in like Nepal it's raised right to make it further away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► way I don't really see Apple doing that either unless they switched to a plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► bag even that doesn't seem like Apple style yeah I don't have the raised area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5755">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► I think I don't see that happening no I think that they I think it's so gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► design that they you know I don't even think it really can I think they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► make the whole phone before doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► yeah I agree and I think that when the that the problem they pose to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► camera team starts with were gonna make it device this thick and you can't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► you can't make the land stick out at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► go exactly right I really do think that's where it starts when they pose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► the problem to the camera team on the iPhone here's out think it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► or how that it has to be you don't get to raise that lands at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► you can't even just have the glass dick I i just brought up the smaller things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► just because to me now because it makes all the sense in again like you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► something with them and there's a lot of my my loose idea here is a lot of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► know somehow you somehow you find an alternative to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► I all I bring it up is is that with everybody say Apple has to do a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► iPhone has to do a bigger iPhone going out of business if they don't do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► bigger iPhone that now there's rumors of a bigger iPhone Apple doing a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► iPhone now to me it seems like a Napoli thing to do but maybe the long side a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► yeah I mean I don't is there really a lot of demand and you know this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► the stop them before another these two men would be created but is there really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► a lot of demand for the iPhone to get substantially smaller than what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► right now she know but that's not that doesn't mean people wouldn't want it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► they were right it's because the sort of thing that the tech press wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► calling for and the people who would if it were if if it existed who would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► in line to buy it didn't think to ask for it right but you know and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► people have said this before so this is not a new insight but never really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► but you know the phone for being pushed to be small and to be as small as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► possible it was because I didn't do that much all they had to do really was have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► a dial pad maybe have some texting ability and that was about it now tho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► phones are pocket computers even for normal people who are not total nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► like us and so normal computers of people like having a nice sized screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► it doesn't have to be huge but people are having a nice ice cream and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► really does affect how good the phone is in usage if you have a nice big screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► or at least most mediums screen to be able to view photos bigger view you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► read things it with bigger text watch movies bigger like all these things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► have now become very common things people do with their phones I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► think there's as much of a push to get them smaller well now people do so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► things that I had a right and a good way to put that too is to go right back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► that business card analogy rain and and as anybody's ever done print design you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► know if you've ever design business cards it's a fun little challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► because it's a small canvas there's not too much information you need to get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► but it's very limiting because it's so physically small you can't put too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► on and if you think about it like you would never buy book printed on business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► cards for business card size paper but yet we read books on our iPhones right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► mean magazines you know whatever you want to call stuff like during firebomb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► archive.org there's no print analogy to about you reading articles nobody read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► articles before smartphones on business card size publications it's ridiculously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► small form factor for reading by the pool of print and like I ran my numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► the other day thirty-one percent of my page views come from smartphones now not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► even including tablets have a different set of another 17% 31% are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► this is how quickly people are shifting their entire computing lives onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► smartphones so you know that's why I speculate that if they ever do a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► iPhone that smaller in any way dinner it would not involve a smaller display like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► I don't think we'll ever see an iPhone with a smaller than four-inch sixteen by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► nine display yeah I think it would only be about shrinking it and other ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► too much room left on the sides chin and forehead in theory could shrink but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► and you can see like with the iPod Touch they can make it thinner and have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6056">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► size screen yeah but you you give up a lot of battery for that you give up some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► of the some of the things inside you give up a lot of the camera quality so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► it you know there's you can make it thinner but you might not want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► resulting device spending on what you value in in the iPhone but and 11 big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► thing to consider for the for the large phone though and why this might sell so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► well might be so important why I would almost certainly buy one is because so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► many people and this is especially true in Asia don't usually buy separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► tablets and phones I usually you can almost guarantee that almost anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► has a computer near enough money to to buy smartphones will almost certainly by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► smartphone of some sort these days it's very rare that people who who can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► want to have a smartphone don't but a tablet is still very much optional for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► lot of people I might even go as far as to say most people at Apple to still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► considered optional luxury and so so many people choose to just have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► smartphone and not get a tablet and you know I'm kind of leaning that way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► know not not know I wouldn't have an iPad XII develop for this platform and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► am I'm into it enough to get one but every iPad i get if i myself using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► less and less and I i talked to you actually months ago with the retina many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► coming out saying maybe that'll change it because you know the right now many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► kind of ruined the iPad for me at the end of the first many had ruined in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► practice it hasn't really come to pass I I still use a pretty lightly used more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► but it's still pretty light I would much rather just have a bigger phone and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► sound you know based on sales especially in Asia of his big phones it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6175">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► position to take ya a bad bet that if it sounds right to me and IT jobs with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► of the anecdotal stuff I've heard from people on Twitter and email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► readers send me that it's it's a stupid word anything killer is usually not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► actual killer the thing but in some sense it's a it's an iPad Mini killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► not that it might even hurt iPad Mini sales but that for some number of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► they'd be happier with just a bigger iPhone and no iPad then smaller iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► and iPad Mini and iPad here I would even say like if if a big enough iPhone comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► out and is is good enough for me to get then I'm even switch back to the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► iPad like I might go back to their size and then only upgrade like every three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6237">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► years maybe every every two years rather than getting a new one every year just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► because I would use it so much more lightly I would be more likely to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► leave that one like at home next to the bed or something I'll use it in bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► before going to sleep at night to read some stuff or browse magazines or near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► time something I could see myself doing that rather than having this many that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► think I'm gonna carry around but in reality I usually don't doesn't fit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► my pocket and you know it's it's kind of weird middle portability class where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► smartphone is my primary portable it I always have in my pocket and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► reason why his big screen phone celebrate the idea of making your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► primary pocket computer a little bigger a little bit better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► is really attractive I would almost certainly get any big phone they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► right I think it's basically about making a display that more suitable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6294">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► long form music whether you're reading something wrong or watching the movie or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► a TV show or some kind of long video or something but more about long form music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► glantz right like just turning on your phone and turning this plan to check the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► weather doesn't really matter what sizes is really want to say by one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► things I have a note that I wrote myself a half an hour ago you had mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► reading the cues from a poor and in hindsight another change and iOS 7 which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► I think clearly could be a hint that they're going for a bigger display is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► the standard system wide from the left side to go back right back button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► because the back button is up at the top left and if you're right-handed holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► the phone in your right hand I mean even with the iPhone 5 in five acts which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6356">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► went from three and a half to four inches that button got harder to hit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► think noticeably so and we're you know we're talking about a four point eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► inch at the smallest as a bigger iPhone it effectively becomes not unreachable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► because you can contort to do it but it you know practically speaking it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► that good and i think that that back button one of the single biggest things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► that makes a bigger iPhone less usable one-handed whereas just coming over from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► the left is a lot more can be sure you can do it you can do it no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► you have reform group terrain in that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► that's that's another one of those things where I feel like if they do come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► out with a bigger iPhone this year and it's hard to get the back button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► everybody will say well that's why a year ago they should I was seven with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► this system I'd come in from the left it go back very well could be i mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6415">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► just not good in general so we could just been the head right that's a family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► like they they have hence going all different race most of the hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► indicate that they at least are adding flexibility you know they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► adding the ability to swipe it this way or hit the back button they've added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► auto layout so it could be this size or it could be a different size and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► easier to adapt they've added automatic text resizing systemwide so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6441">TS</a>]
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01:47:28 ◼ ► own preference or whatever else so they've added all of these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► doors that they could walk through to you know it's like it's like Lost Season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6452">TS</a>]
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01:47:39 ◼ ► different doors they could use maybe in the future so this is like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► apples saying you know we we could do any of these things and we as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► customers are not going to know why didn't these things until we see some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6467">TS</a>]
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01:47:57 ◼ ► alright so this makes some predictions do you think Apple is gonna come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6477">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► with at least one bigger screen iPhone this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► yeah sure I think they're gonna do it certainly sometime soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► this year as good as any I I would have guessed last year I did just last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► and I was wrong but sure why not this year and do you think they'll do too I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► doesn't make any sense to me at least not in the same year maybe let alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► something sometime later but I think I think the only if is the question I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► if they come out with a new bigger screen iPhone do they still keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► foreign size as a secondary secondary wanna say that but as a second top two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► choice really is there a new foreign phone also that's good because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► that alone is a tough marketing problem I don't know why it somehow I guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6531">TS</a>]
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01:49:04 ◼ ► size and then I'd be bothered by the bigger physical gadget of a five-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► iPhone but I do I do believe that I do believe that all things considered I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► rather keep the phone their sizes is now four pocket ability and the way it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► in my hand but I worry that from a marketing perspective that if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► believes that too that most iPhone users are better served with the device as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► stands today size wise but that it might run into the buying a TV in a big box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► store problem where I've discussed this before I know Syracuse as but where are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► you going to BestBuy and the TVs all have their brightness and saturation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► turned way up to absurd levels because when you're looking at them side-by-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► for us in lit big box store the one that jumps out to use the one that has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► most saturated brightest colors even know that's not actually the truest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6595">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► display and it cracked skin tones and you wouldn't even if you buy that model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► TV said you would want to configure the way they have in the store but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► means that you're not you're not making an informed decision you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► making a decision based on the context of the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► and that likewise with let's say a break to iPhone sixes 14 inch or 15 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► people go in the store and they see the bigger one and they think bigger is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► better and they buy the bigger one but it's actually a mistake because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► actually would have been happier with the one that was smaller and fitted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► jeans pocket better in Finland and better and that Apple that's the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► problem that a poor has solved for us over the years by they go through in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► lab and figure out this is better and we're not gonna let you make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► mistake we're gonna do what's best for most users even though they're admitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► that there's always some users who really would be happier with the big you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► know looking looking at CII have I have a very nice scientific example here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► because I'm such a nerd that I have the iPhone rectangle clearly outlined on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► jeans pocket and so I can look down on I can see exactly how big the iPhone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► when it's in my pocket and how much bigger the pocket is on the phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6682">TS</a>]
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01:51:33 ◼ ► the phone to accommodate that big screen or whatever it would be no its not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► talking about in like four inches you're talking about in like less than an inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► TX to mention I think that still fits just fine I think I think we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► about it we're making a big deal out of this and it would make the screen a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► bigger but we're still talking about or device that's still small pockets and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► think there's a lot of leeway there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6715">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► well do you think that they would still keep the smaller one around as a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► device or do you think the only top of the line would be the new business I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► would not make a prediction on that either way I i give like a 50 50 chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► you know I guess I could see them going either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► think about how hard they admitted today with the quarterly results that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► forecast 25 C vs 5s demand which was a lot easier to predict in my opinion than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► this if they were both the same specs I think it really depends on what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► differences would be like if if you only get it if they pull an iPad and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► difference is the size I'd say there's a lot less reason for them to keep both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► but if they if they if they segmented in different ways if they give the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► a bigger battery a better camera you know if they if they make it better in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► in Easley marketable ways I can see the charging a hundred bucks more for it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6777">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► that becomes a new high-end model a new way to get a little better margins that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► are their most profitable line you know as they have to shower as if you shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:09 ◼ ► lower and other lines here to keep the margins up so I can see them at a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6789">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► end we want to call it that they wouldn't call it the iPhone pro but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► sort of what you're talking about right yeah yeah I wouldn't call it that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► is it would be like the Mac Pro two min maybe less extreme than the new Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► is the most extreme but but it's in that destroyed in that direction though right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► the stuff you're talking about bigger battery in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► even better camera right you know you almost almost what they did this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► this year with the 55 °c at 55 °c but shifting up its shipping it down you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► know and and I bet as we see as we saw how much better the 5s on the fights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► even against Apple's own predictions I think a lot of people want these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► upgrades and I bet you know but certain the price would turn off some people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► if they charge 200 bucks more for this I bet they'd sell a ton of them I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► it makes sense for certain gaps to existing display size continue so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► example with Max there's 11 inch 13 inch 15 age there used to be a 17 inch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► that made some some sense but you can kinda see why they put it to pasture but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► then there is nothing until you get to 24 age with the smaller iMac and it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► of makes sense that there is nothing in between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► right other than the possible room for a 17 inch but you definitely a 17 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► clearly you'd never wanna MacBook for mass production that was bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► that there's a 19 inch MacBook Pro makes assets and given the affordability of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:55 ◼ ► 24 inch iMac it doesn't really make sense for Apple to still make 28 1 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6895">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► iMacs or going even smaller like a 17 inch iMac that gap makes sense there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► no reason for a Mac to have a display in between when you look at the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:12 ◼ ► iPhone compared to the iPad Mini which is the next step up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6912">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► it does seem like there's there's a market for at least one device in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► between oh yeah especially you know when you start considering how many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► are only a pic small but they're not going to so many people are not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► ever have an iPad they they might have an iPhone and there's so many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► where you don't have that iPad with you but you have your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► something that still fits in a pants pocket and fits in a very small handbag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► that carry that iPad Mini stills is way too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6947">TS</a>]
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01:56:08 ◼ ► know that's it at the only the largest pilot to have a you get to eat a bottle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:12 ◼ ► of soda in there if you want to you can you do every time use shoplift all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6972">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► time i doing a lot of soda speciality leaders and that I can fit in that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► nothing else I we're so like most of the year i cant transparently carry an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► you know so I so I don't so it sits at home I hardly ever use it and so unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► happy with it then I would be iPhone I would I would use the crap out of a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► screen iPhone soyuz the crap out of any iPhone I have talked myself into I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► think I'd prefer the smaller one but I slowly but surely talking myself into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:49 ◼ ► the market since available to him and we'll see if I'm right and they make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7009">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► a little bit thicker and put a better camera in there you'll get that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► question that would really help design you know there's things I really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7017">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► about me because I still buy you know actual camera captures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► so I mean I'm definitely willing to sacrifice something for superior camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:12 ◼ ► right we have a little bit more talked about before we wrap up this short show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7032">TS</a>]
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01:59:56 ◼ ► idea is adding any keep this more iPhone size around with top tier specs because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7196">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► I want small device love my stuff small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:07 ◼ ► I do I still don't see how they price the two devices that that's a tough call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7207">TS</a>]
02:00:12 ◼ ► right because with the iPad bigger better somehow and bigger and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7212">TS</a>]
02:00:18 ◼ ► expensive and bigger you know the bigger MacBook is always 13 inches more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7218">TS</a>]
02:00:22 ◼ ► the 11 to 15 inch MacBook Pro is more than thirteen the 27 inch iMac is cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7222">TS</a>]
02:00:29 ◼ ► more than the 24 inch iMac is bigger displays cost more but at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7229">TS</a>]
02:00:33 ◼ ► point miniaturisation is that you know it's more expensive you know that bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7233">TS</a>]
02:00:41 ◼ ► is it really what you're paying for and depending on what the pixel count is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7241">TS</a>]
02:00:45 ◼ ► know if the pixel count is exactly the same on the bigger iPhone then maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7245">TS</a>]
02:00:52 ◼ ► that display isn't more expensive maybe the one that dancers more expensive I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7252">TS</a>]
02:00:58 ◼ ► not quite sure how that goes and then just plain old marketing guys how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7258">TS</a>]
02:01:03 ◼ ► that how does that sit to me it makes it such a hot I can't figure out how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7263">TS</a>]
02:01:08 ◼ ► would price two new iPhones with improved specs a guy I think it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7268">TS</a>]
02:01:13 ◼ ► clear that the mid-priced iPhone next year is going to be and I you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7273">TS</a>]
02:01:18 ◼ ► equivalent of an iPhone 5 that I don't know if they're going to put in plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7278">TS</a>]
02:01:21 ◼ ► 25 see again but you know the whole take last year's top of the iPhone top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7281">TS</a>]
02:01:26 ◼ ► line iPhone move it down one click on the product here so I might I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7286">TS</a>]
02:01:32 ◼ ► think they will be selling iPhone 4 and iPhone for at least two more years as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7292">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► the 5s you know basic tech model moves down the product line but will they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:44 ◼ ► a new top of the line 184 I don't know how they would prices if they did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7304">TS</a>]
02:01:48 ◼ ► really don't can't see them I can't see them introducing two phones at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7308">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► price that have different sized screens just seems weird yeah tough call and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7314">TS</a>]
02:02:01 ◼ ► wouldn't put too much weight into the iPad example because we don't get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7321">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► is this is the first time that now at the retina many and the iPad air this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:14 ◼ ► the first time we have pretty much the same hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7334">TS</a>]
02:02:18 ◼ ► r it in two different sizes the two different very different price points so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7338">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► it's very possible you know maybe a hundred bucks right the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:29 ◼ ► yeah 400 bucks yeah who cares terrible 300 bucks I think the minis overall I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7349">TS</a>]
02:02:43 ◼ ► bet there outselling the big iPads I don't know if we have a confirmed from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7363">TS</a>]
02:02:48 ◼ ► the actual data but I was certainly the case where these three close it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7368">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► that the smaller many with almost no noticeable downsides might be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7372">TS</a>]
02:03:01 ◼ ► eating into the sales of the big one or it could be that people will pay for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7381">TS</a>]
02:03:06 ◼ ► bigger screen and nothing else and so the big ones still selling great either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7386">TS</a>]
02:03:13 ◼ ► way I think the condition that we have now every have those two have had to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7393">TS</a>]
02:03:17 ◼ ► technical hardware with only a screen size and a hundred book price difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7397">TS</a>]
02:03:21 ◼ ► I think we've had that for such a short time that neither we nor Apple have much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7401">TS</a>]
02:03:27 ◼ ► of an idea of whether the behavior this exhibit there will continue on in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7407">TS</a>]
02:03:32 ◼ ► future for longer than just this year you know so they might do the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7412">TS</a>]
02:03:37 ◼ ► with the iPhone now certainly if they priced the new Big 100 bucks hire any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7417">TS</a>]
02:03:46 ◼ ► interval if they priced higher than the four inch line that will impact its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7426">TS</a>]
02:03:52 ◼ ► sales especially in subsidized countries where the perceived difference is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7432">TS</a>]
02:03:56 ◼ ► bigger than the actual overall difference right and i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7436">TS</a>]
02:03:59 ◼ ► whole subsidized thing makes the makes it all confusing anyway because yes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7439">TS</a>]
02:04:05 ◼ ► know if it's actually $100 more likely unsubsidized price is $100 who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7445">TS</a>]
02:04:11 ◼ ► what the difference would be subsidized you know subsidizes its distorts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7451">TS</a>]
02:04:16 ◼ ► cost of an iPhone so profoundly right so you know who knows I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7456">TS</a>]
02:04:24 ◼ ► and one possibility to visit maybe maybe they they they dropped the price of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7464">TS</a>]
02:04:32 ◼ ► new small one down to that hundred our spot right into the $200 bond that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7472">TS</a>]
02:04:38 ◼ ► possible but it's it's a stretch but they feel like they risked serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7478">TS</a>]
02:04:47 ◼ ► nosedive in iPhone average selling price which has been super consistent I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7487">TS</a>]
02:04:54 ◼ ► think I got it from from Horace before the show where two years in a row for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7494">TS</a>]
02:04:59 ◼ ► the holiday quarter the average selling price of an iPhone has dropped by like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7499">TS</a>]
02:05:03 ◼ ► five or six dollars from like five or so 6:38 to 632 to this year's 627 could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7503">TS</a>]
02:05:11 ◼ ► off I don't have notes but it's something like that but very pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7511">TS</a>]
02:05:15 ◼ ► compared especially compared to the market as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7515">TS</a>]
02:05:18 ◼ ► where it's sort of gotten commoditized very quickly you know in the end right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7518">TS</a>]
02:05:21 ◼ ► side whereas if they drop if they keep the forums phone its top tier and drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7521">TS</a>]
02:05:29 ◼ ► it by a hundred bucks you know they could and you know it turns out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7529">TS</a>]
02:05:34 ◼ ► most people even with the choice between the two still pick before you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7534">TS</a>]
02:05:39 ◼ ► average selling price really drops yeah I don't know I i think i mean maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7539">TS</a>]
02:05:46 ◼ ► maybe that maybe the pricing issues alone would be enough of a reason not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7546">TS</a>]
02:05:51 ◼ ► keep the Forex eyes getting up to your parts inside but on the other hand there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7551">TS</a>]
02:05:56 ◼ ► you know like the iPod evolved over the last decade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7556">TS</a>]
02:06:02 ◼ ► they weren't too sensitive about protecting prices and we're a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7562">TS</a>]
02:06:07 ◼ ► more on this side of you know pushing prices lower and you know as components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7567">TS</a>]
02:06:14 ◼ ► got cheaper and stuff like that you know they didn't try to keep the iPod as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7574">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► $399 product you know $3.99 for a couple of years at the beginning but then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:24 ◼ ► quickly pushed it to new price point so they could you know could be that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7584">TS</a>]
02:06:28 ◼ ► time to do that with the iPhone and you know famous last words make it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7588">TS</a>]
02:06:34 ◼ ► quietly yeah I mean I really don't know I think it's anyone's guess I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7594">TS</a>]
02:06:41 ◼ ► you could you can pick any of these outcomes and I can make a case for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7601">TS</a>]
02:06:45 ◼ ► Business Insider has a are good friends they're totally non sensational there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7605">TS</a>]
02:06:52 ◼ ► carol is right there chart of the day today is the average selling price of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7612">TS</a>]
02:06:56 ◼ ► iPad 2 knows dies and that's it has gone down though it's it's year over year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7616">TS</a>]
02:07:05 ◼ ► it's down like thirteen percent to know that countries in those days and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7625">TS</a>]
02:07:13 ◼ ► reading the actual numbers you're reading this from their charge but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7633">TS</a>]
02:07:16 ◼ ► starting in Q ten Q two of 2010 the average selling price of an iPad was 660 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7636">TS</a>]
02:07:23 ◼ ► 670 went up a little then started going back down below 600 and it was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7643">TS</a>]
02:07:30 ◼ ► around 600 in queue 1 2011 which would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7650">TS</a>]
02:07:35 ◼ ► holiday quarter first holiday quarter for the iPad it dropped to six hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7655">TS</a>]
02:07:39 ◼ ► even then it went up to 650 that was when they introduced the iPad 2 and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7659">TS</a>]
02:07:47 ◼ ► ever since then it's gone steadily down and for the quarter they just completed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7667">TS</a>]
02:07:53 ◼ ► it dropped below 500 for the first time and it was at 467 so I think that tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7673">TS</a>]
02:08:00 ◼ ► you a lot if if the average is under 500 I think the Mini is clearly taking a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7680">TS</a>]
02:08:10 ◼ ► chunk of the sales and I don't know I don't think that they're disappointed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7690">TS</a>]
02:08:14 ◼ ► that I mean the only other possibility is that they're sold a lot of and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7694">TS</a>]
02:08:20 ◼ ► wonder maybe it is maybe they sold a ton of the non retina iPad Mini just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7700">TS</a>]
02:08:30 ◼ ► it hit that new price point which itself is 300 is it to 99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7710">TS</a>]
02:08:36 ◼ ► 329 I don't know I mean the iPad's weird example compared to the iPhone because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7716">TS</a>]
02:08:47 ◼ ► the subsidies on the iPhone mess everything up and and the iPad starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7727">TS</a>]
02:08:52 ◼ ► out this new product category that at first was very hard for anyone else to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7732">TS</a>]
02:08:57 ◼ ► match component price was like in the original tanks 2010 iPad I mean member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7737">TS</a>]
02:09:03 ◼ ► they were other 10 ish inch tablet projects mother companies at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7743">TS</a>]
02:09:08 ◼ ► and they could not even come close to matching the iPad on hardware specs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7748">TS</a>]
02:09:13 ◼ ► price they couldn't do it they tried and they couldn't do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7753">TS</a>]
02:09:19 ◼ ► I mean heck even even more recently than that the tenets Microsoft Surface had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7759">TS</a>]
02:09:24 ◼ ► had trouble doing it you know it in attending size with with those kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7764">TS</a>]
02:09:29 ◼ ► special just hard to do and getting easier over time but so slow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7769">TS</a>]
02:09:34 ◼ ► disruptions are happening with the seven categories everything pushed prices down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7774">TS</a>]
02:09:37 ◼ ► the market matured push prices down more from the top I think it was bound to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7777">TS</a>]
02:09:43 ◼ ► happen that this new category like the average selling price of course was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7783">TS</a>]
02:09:47 ◼ ► going to fall look at you know when when the MacBook Air can now the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7787">TS</a>]
02:09:51 ◼ ► MacBook Air was eating an adult and you know now you can get them 4700 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7791">TS</a>]
02:09:59 ◼ ► prices fell as technology got better until it settles into a kind of a steady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7799">TS</a>]
02:10:05 ◼ ► point and so of course that was going to happen with the iPad with the iPhone we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7805">TS</a>]
02:10:10 ◼ ► didn't really see that as much as I some of it but we didn't see this much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7810">TS</a>]
02:10:13 ◼ ► because the subsidy pricing thing just ordered everything so you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7813">TS</a>]
02:10:18 ◼ ► like if they had to sell an iPhone for 300 bucks they would find a way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7818">TS</a>]
02:10:23 ◼ ► wouldn't be ideal but they would find a way to do it they wouldn't have those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7823">TS</a>]
02:10:26 ◼ ► great margins where the iPad because it's unsubsidized there's a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7826">TS</a>]
02:10:32 ◼ ► pressure like they're they're pressing matters a lot more for that volume and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7832">TS</a>]
02:10:37 ◼ ► they have to sell it they have to cut the price down and of course competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7837">TS</a>]
02:10:40 ◼ ► gonna come eat up a lot of that margin as soon as they possibly can about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7840">TS</a>]
02:10:46 ◼ ► as as as a past decisions making sense in light of future decisions sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7846">TS</a>]
02:10:53 ◼ ► thing like what if the real point of the iPhone 5 seed coming out last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7853">TS</a>]
02:10:58 ◼ ► instead of just selling the iPhone 5 as it was at the same but the prices of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7858">TS</a>]
02:11:07 ◼ ► is to set the stage for two new iPhones per year and that this year for 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7867">TS</a>]
02:11:17 ◼ ► there's a new I don't know what they call it let's just say they skip just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7877">TS</a>]
02:11:22 ◼ ► for the sake of argument skip calling any phone that just plain iPhone 6 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7882">TS</a>]
02:11:26 ◼ ► instead they have two new phones iPhone 6 ass iPhone 6 see six see is four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7886">TS</a>]
02:11:35 ◼ ► inches and maybe has some improvements even over the 5s but its four inches and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7895">TS</a>]
02:11:42 ◼ ► maybe it's plastic and it still last year's phone-based yeah well yeah maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7902">TS</a>]
02:11:51 ◼ ► I don't know what it'd be like it's still an A seven it still has the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7911">TS</a>]
02:11:56 ◼ ► 5s cameras yea or maybe has a better camera I don't know maybe they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7916">TS</a>]
02:12:00 ◼ ► quite just put the five ass in the plastic maybe they do have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7920">TS</a>]
02:12:07 ◼ ► improvements but it's not quite as you know across the board but that the six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7927">TS</a>]
02:12:13 ◼ ► ass would be at all and have a higher quality finish and be bigger that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7933">TS</a>]
02:12:21 ◼ ► would say that's you know it's really possible I might even say it's likely I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7941">TS</a>]
02:12:25 ◼ ► mean that I can see that being the most obvious thing they would do if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7945">TS</a>]
02:12:30 ◼ ► phone that's probably how they would do it but you know it's it's hard to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7950">TS</a>]
02:12:35 ◼ ► at what they've done in the past and say that's definitely going to do in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7955">TS</a>]
02:12:38 ◼ ► future you know certain things you can be sure about you can be sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7958">TS</a>]
02:12:41 ◼ ► they're probably not gonna like you know crammed weird stuff into an event that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7961">TS</a>]
02:12:45 ◼ ► not made for that weird stuff usually you can be sure that I kinda like tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7965">TS</a>]
02:12:49 ◼ ► you what they gonna do six months ahead of time for most products you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7969">TS</a>]
02:12:53 ◼ ► can look at their patterns and you can make some pretty good assumptions but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7973">TS</a>]
02:12:57 ◼ ► think making any kind of assumption about you know when what is asked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7977">TS</a>]
02:13:01 ◼ ► come out how to price had marketed for something as important to the company as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7981">TS</a>]
02:13:05 ◼ ► the iPhone in what is actually a pretty dynamic and shifting market of some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7985">TS</a>]
02:13:12 ◼ ► the saturation happening a lot more competition than ever before going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7992">TS</a>]
02:13:15 ◼ ► new markets especially new big markets like asia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7995">TS</a>]
02:13:19 ◼ ► i think thats we can't base any of these predictions on how they've always done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/7999">TS</a>]
02:13:26 ◼ ► this week probably under that again I mean it that's not that strong it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8006">TS</a>]
02:13:30 ◼ ► new and everything is shifting so fast that president doesn't matter that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8010">TS</a>]
02:13:37 ◼ ► Apple does not care about their own president nearly this much you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8017">TS</a>]
02:13:41 ◼ ► Tim Cook is not saying well we can ship this new phone at this price because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8021">TS</a>]
02:13:45 ◼ ► we've never done it before becoming ship one has to be they don't care that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8025">TS</a>]
02:13:49 ◼ ► they're gonna do what's best for their products in their company I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8029">TS</a>]
02:13:53 ◼ ► anybody who said that like a product marketing strategy meeting at apple with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8033">TS</a>]
02:13:58 ◼ ► we get like the worst like crickets response for everybody else in the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8038">TS</a>]
02:14:05 ◼ ► they'd have to write like hang your head in shame and get up and just go exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8045">TS</a>]
02:14:11 ◼ ► like they're gonna do what's gonna make themselves most iPhones and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8051">TS</a>]
02:14:18 ◼ ► whatever they can do to do that in a way that they don't suck like they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8058">TS</a>]
02:14:22 ◼ ► try to sell the most iPhones they can without making them suck that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8062">TS</a>]
02:14:25 ◼ ► basically it and they've had this nice pattern they've done for a few years was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8065">TS</a>]
02:14:30 ◼ ► not a whole lot of variation but there has been variation and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8070">TS</a>]
02:14:33 ◼ ► easy to forget there has been variation when it's been called for and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8073">TS</a>]
02:14:39 ◼ ► think they're gonna keep doing that like if they want to deviate though deviate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8079">TS</a>]
02:14:41 ◼ ► period and especially when it comes to something like like if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8081">TS</a>]
02:14:46 ◼ ► really launched to substantially new models you know saying the five seasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8086">TS</a>]
02:14:51 ◼ ► substantially new launch two very new models in one year that's a big change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8091">TS</a>]
02:14:57 ◼ ► maybe I'll change the way you do things will change the pricing structure may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8097">TS</a>]
02:15:00 ◼ ► all you know abandon the small one for being the high end one you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8100">TS</a>]
02:15:04 ◼ ► there's all sorts of things they could do I wouldn't even be surprised if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8104">TS</a>]
02:15:09 ◼ ► you know if it's so much in flux that that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8109">TS</a>]
02:15:14 ◼ ► pattern from just the last handful of years where iPad new iPhone September [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8114">TS</a>]
02:15:19 ◼ ► new iPads October if they change that up to now there's no reason this is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8119">TS</a>]
02:15:26 ◼ ► like you said before we have seen leaks of hardware from especially from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8126">TS</a>]
02:15:32 ◼ ► phones 67 months before they come out but who knows maybe they've plug the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8132">TS</a>]
02:15:38 ◼ ► leaks like is it all that ridiculous to think that we'd see a new iPhone at WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8138">TS</a>]
02:15:43 ◼ ► I don't think so no I think it would be a pricing yeah and I think we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8143">TS</a>]
02:15:48 ◼ ► we're gonna hear something if it's if it happens we'll hear something soon will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8148">TS</a>]
02:15:52 ◼ ► start seen leaks but I wouldn't be I wouldn't protect out of the realm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8152">TS</a>]
02:15:59 ◼ ► possibility and it also makes it seem like depending on where it is on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8159">TS</a>]
02:16:04 ◼ ► high end low-end range might make it easier to introduce two phones this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8164">TS</a>]
02:16:08 ◼ ► by not doing them side-by-side I mean what if what if a new high-end phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8168">TS</a>]
02:16:15 ◼ ► comes out that still has the right is just bigger raped her phone bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8175">TS</a>]
02:16:25 ◼ ► we wouldn't be surprised if that happens in the release it in May you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8185">TS</a>]
02:16:29 ◼ ► there's they could have they want to if it makes sense there's no reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8189">TS</a>]
02:16:33 ◼ ► they can't you know a few people would complain but you know they could do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8193">TS</a>]
02:16:39 ◼ ► if they want to they're they're they're gonna do it makes sense and because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8199">TS</a>]
02:16:43 ◼ ► don't know what is out there doing we don't really know what will make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8203">TS</a>]
02:16:46 ◼ ► for it right which you know and like the grand scheme of things last year where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8206">TS</a>]
02:16:51 ◼ ► they did the iPad 3 Retina and then six months later replaced it with the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8211">TS</a>]
02:16:58 ◼ ► for whatever but that did suck it sucked but you know I think they wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8218">TS</a>]
02:17:04 ◼ ► mistake on their part it wasn't like it was an accident it was what they thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8224">TS</a>]
02:17:08 ◼ ► was the best for them going forward to get a retina iPad out as quick as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8228">TS</a>]
02:17:14 ◼ ► and they sold a ton of them but then if this since they could make an even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8234">TS</a>]
02:17:20 ◼ ► much better one in time for the holiday season which means October they did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8240">TS</a>]
02:17:25 ◼ ► and you know if you look at their competitors in both phones and tablets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8245">TS</a>]
02:17:30 ◼ ► lot of new things twice or even more a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8250">TS</a>]
02:17:33 ◼ ► you know you don't there's no reason there's nothing nothing saying Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8253">TS</a>]
02:17:36 ◼ ► to only released one new phone and tablet year or even say their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8256">TS</a>]
02:17:40 ◼ ► competitors do way more than every year you know once here that wants your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8260">TS</a>]
02:17:47 ◼ ► Google doesn't happen about once a year the phone I don't know but i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8267">TS</a>]
02:17:52 ◼ ► the big enter manufacturers for Android phones are doing to three times a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8272">TS</a>]
02:17:57 ◼ ► and its and that's normal that's fine nobody really complain so well people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8277">TS</a>]
02:18:04 ◼ ► nobody's really heard complaining my Galaxy S seven is now obsolete because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8284">TS</a>]
02:18:11 ◼ ► the S eight came out two months later they don't care it doesn't matter they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8291">TS</a>]
02:18:15 ◼ ► they do what works so you're gonna be a big one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8295">TS</a>]
02:18:24 ◼ ► knowing nothing else about it except that there might be a new iPhone with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8304">TS</a>]
02:18:29 ◼ ► bigger screen and no major downsides yeah i buy it and I would say I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8309">TS</a>]
02:18:34 ◼ ► even buy it regardless of the screen resolution decision I would by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8314">TS</a>]
02:18:39 ◼ ► what's your prediction if there's a bigger iPhone screen resolution be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8319">TS</a>]
02:18:45 ◼ ► and I would say just narrow your choices to exactly the same 1136 by 640 or a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8325">TS</a>]
02:18:54 ◼ ► more pictures as they wouldn't just a few more pixels later not going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8334">TS</a>]
02:18:59 ◼ ► from 640 horizontally to 720 right there if they're going to have more pixels it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8339">TS</a>]
02:19:05 ◼ ► would have to be a significant increase I don't think they need to necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8345">TS</a>]
02:19:10 ◼ ► increase the DPI substantial I don't think so either I'm with you that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8350">TS</a>]
02:19:15 ◼ ► think more than 332 is you're just wasting battery life I really yes yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8355">TS</a>]
02:19:21 ◼ ► and reducing CPU performance was very important to them so I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8361">TS</a>]
02:19:25 ◼ ► think we need to go higher dpi so I will say they I would bet if they make larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8365">TS</a>]
02:19:30 ◼ ► phone I bet it is a higher resolution but only really two proportionally grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8370">TS</a>]
02:19:34 ◼ ► with the screen within a certain tolerance I don't think it's going to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8374">TS</a>]
02:19:38 ◼ ► and meaningfully different dpi right and the fact that that would make life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8378">TS</a>]
02:19:41 ◼ ► tougher on developers is absolutely not something they would even think twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8381">TS</a>]
02:19:45 ◼ ► about well I think they would think once about it and not twice yeah I agree i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8385">TS</a>]
02:19:51 ◼ ► mean the fact is if they say hey there's a new iPhone with this new size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8391">TS</a>]
02:19:55 ◼ ► developers adopted will also a heart and will do it and it won't be a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8395">TS</a>]
02:20:00 ◼ ► just like supporting the iPhone 5 against the iPhone four right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8400">TS</a>]
02:20:04 ◼ ► like it was a new screen size and it was a little easier cuz it was only bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8404">TS</a>]
02:20:09 ◼ ► one dimension but it was still a new size we have to support and we still to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8409">TS</a>]
02:20:12 ◼ ► support both and it's no big deal with auto layout it's just it's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8412">TS</a>]
02:20:16 ◼ ► easier and the move away from like like pixel by pixel painted textures over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8416">TS</a>]
02:20:23 ◼ ► whole attitude towards the iPhone set the iOS 7 style makes it even easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8423">TS</a>]
02:20:28 ◼ ► make flexible apps that can work in a variety of resolutions I don't I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8428">TS</a>]
02:20:34 ◼ ► don't think that that the developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8434">TS</a>]
02:20:37 ◼ ► burden would be a major concern good point that's when they heard about Iowa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8437">TS</a>]
02:20:42 ◼ ► 72 was you know somebody at Apple that it was partially just what they think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8442">TS</a>]
02:20:49 ◼ ► best and that they really do they think it is a great design but that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8449">TS</a>]
02:20:54 ◼ ► also partially you know it was not just meant to be here is a new look for 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8454">TS</a>]
02:21:00 ◼ ► it was the new look for the next five years going forward and its informed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8460">TS</a>]
02:21:05 ◼ ► somewhat by what they know is coming down the pipeline and you know having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8465">TS</a>]
02:21:10 ◼ ► range of displays as this specific terms of just these two sides displays and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8470">TS</a>]
02:21:17 ◼ ► then doing like you said perfect texture mapping for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8477">TS</a>]
02:21:22 ◼ ► definitely makes it easier to scale area while the baby and the biggest tell to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8482">TS</a>]
02:21:29 ◼ ► you about what they care about developers having to do a lot of work is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8489">TS</a>]
02:21:32 ◼ ► when the original iPad came out because the easiest thing if they were really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8492">TS</a>]
02:21:36 ◼ ► worried about making life easier for developers they would have made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8496">TS</a>]
02:21:39 ◼ ► original iPad a little bit smaller and then just had it runs iPhone apps scaled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8499">TS</a>]
02:21:44 ◼ ► up and it wouldn't you know it would have been terrible idea it would have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8504">TS</a>]
02:21:49 ◼ ► think it would have kept the iPad honestly think it woulda kept the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8509">TS</a>]
02:21:51 ◼ ► from being a hit product but it would have been what happened if one of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8511">TS</a>]
02:21:56 ◼ ► top priorities was making life easier for their developers whereas instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8516">TS</a>]
02:22:01 ◼ ► their top priority is doing what they think is the best design and then worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8521">TS</a>]
02:22:06 ◼ ► about you know how to make it you know how to be helpful to developers right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8526">TS</a>]
02:22:12 ◼ ► mean the fact is the best thing they can do for developers is to sell shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8532">TS</a>]
02:22:16 ◼ ► telephones right and if if a decision is going to make themselves shit ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8536">TS</a>]
02:22:20 ◼ ► phones that all developers should be very happy and do whatever is required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8540">TS</a>]
02:22:24 ◼ ► to get into that market because that's best for us you know it regardless of if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8544">TS</a>]
02:22:29 ◼ ► we have to lay out of screen twice that's nothing for reaching a shit ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8549">TS</a>]
02:22:38 ◼ ► alright why I told you it'd be short show so that that's not good off now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8558">TS</a>]
02:22:42 ◼ ► before we set our mind Marco I really have to thank you a lot I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8562">TS</a>]
02:22:48 ◼ ► i I think this is the most sincere thanks I have had offered to guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8568">TS</a>]
02:22:52 ◼ ► because the longest continuous recording session ever had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8572">TS</a>]
02:22:59 ◼ ► yeah I think me to actually this is this is my record I must feel at this point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8579">TS</a>]
02:23:04 ◼ ► i still going strong and that's why I want to cut it off I don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8584">TS</a>]
02:23:07 ◼ ► we've lost it but I'm slowing down as for sure exactly exactly had yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8587">TS</a>]
02:23:18 ◼ ► it was fun let's let's get some pitches in we've got ATP ATP . FM right to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8598">TS</a>]
02:23:27 ◼ ► that your podcast I think honestly I do I say this noble should show anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8607">TS</a>]
02:23:33 ◼ ► likes this show would love ATP if you have a listen to it you're not you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8613">TS</a>]
02:23:42 ◼ ► you got your overcast but that's not out yet we now have a reason to release it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8622">TS</a>]
02:23:48 ◼ ► because the the Jonathan Coulton comic book just came in from Kickstarter and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8628">TS</a>]
02:23:52 ◼ ► bought an add-in therefore overcast so now this is like shipping to people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8632">TS</a>]
02:23:57 ◼ ► an ad for overcast doesn't exist yet did get did you do that because you thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8637">TS</a>]
02:24:01 ◼ ► you'd be out by now or some of both but I had a rough idea it was coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8641">TS</a>]
02:24:08 ◼ ► like you know early this year some time and yet arrived in the mail today and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8648">TS</a>]
02:24:13 ◼ ► looks awesome in this point to upset there's nothing on it that's not too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8653">TS</a>]
02:24:16 ◼ ► behind schedule but I do recall talking with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8656">TS</a>]
02:24:19 ◼ ► months ago and you had a vague plan to be in bad about December yeah it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8659">TS</a>]
02:24:24 ◼ ► happen I'm still in beta but I'm getting there possibly may be with us on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8664">TS</a>]
02:24:28 ◼ ► episode released I might be in beta but that's unlikely like a hearing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8668">TS</a>]
02:24:31 ◼ ► voice though that it's it's getting close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8671">TS</a>]
02:24:34 ◼ ► yeah I mean I'm using a full time I've been using a full-time for like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8674">TS</a>]
02:24:37 ◼ ► months only podcast client so you know certainly there's a voice that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8677">TS</a>]
02:24:42 ◼ ► developer has when a product that was behind schedule still is in beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8682">TS</a>]
02:24:47 ◼ ► and and yet it's beta isn't even within sight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8687">TS</a>]
02:24:50 ◼ ► there's a certain tone to their desperation a defeated no I mean I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8690">TS</a>]
02:24:57 ◼ ► to the point now where I have I almost have something shippable the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8697">TS</a>]
02:25:01 ◼ ► question is deciding what to push off to future versions I really want version 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8701">TS</a>]
02:25:07 ◼ ► to be awesome and it's so you know every developer faces it's so tempting to cram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8707">TS</a>]
02:25:11 ◼ ► as much in there as you possibly can but I know that I'm never gonna ship if I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8711">TS</a>]
02:25:16 ◼ ► that and so i'm just i'm having to cut so many pretty nice big things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8716">TS</a>]
02:25:21 ◼ ► really want to do that are just not gonna be ready in time and that's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8721">TS</a>]
02:25:25 ◼ ► kind of heartbreaking but that's the reality I have to do and I now so now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8725">TS</a>]
02:25:28 ◼ ► have a nice big road map for things I can add you know in the next few months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzBQ10Y/8728">TS</a>]
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