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00:00:00 ◼   ► what is it that makes somebody by a [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► white car all your dip [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► I I honestly want to know because it [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► seems like people who buy white cars [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► only ever buy white cars and then [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► there's other people and other people [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► never buy white cars like what what what [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► is that about somebody that that flips [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► that switch [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► I have a theory I complete can i hear [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► the theory before I don't know if I just [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► told you this theory before it's not [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► that it's not my theory it's a common [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► commonly known thing in the car industry [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► is basically and fashion as well if you [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► have a car or anything else that is kind [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► of ugly like it's in the shape and like [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► it's it's kind of lumpy and not good [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► looking at some awkward parts i get that [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► car in black because black hides the [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► parts of the car that aren't good [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► looking this is also the theory behind a [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► little black dress and my black is [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► quote/unquote slimming when you when you [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► wear it if you want to hide what's their [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► wear black or white is the opposite of [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► that if you love every single curve of [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► the sheet metal of a particular car [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► white will show every single curve of [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► the sheet metal my car and it's a good [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► test of whether you really like that [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► carpet when you see it and white and all [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► of a sudden like I've your dressing like [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► a white c6 corvette with the but look [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► humongous your google actually she's at [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► Korvettes but it's big but if you see a [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► black one the giant butt on the core [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► value like kind of linton doesn't look [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► so bad you know [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► so one theory and the white car is if [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► you really really like the the way the [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► sheet metal of the car looks in all [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► aspects and you want to see every single [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► part of it [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► get the car and white see if that were [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► true then I feel like there would be [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► more cross-pollination of people who [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► would own white cars and non-white cards [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► but i don't really see that a lot but I [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► usually see is people who have who only [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► ever have white cars and other people [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► who never have liked cars [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► well there's also the white is boring a [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► neutral cup camp and on the other side [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► of that there is the white shows dirt a [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► lot camp so there are other like more [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► mundane practical reasons to get white [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► not get lots of people avoid white [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► because of the dirt issue and lots of [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► people get white because like I can't [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► really decide what color I want this car [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► and and in particular the if you buy [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► cheap cars sometimes your choices are [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► only like white black and one ugly color [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► oh no it's gray gray and gray and silver [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► don't get sober yet great [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► don't worry they're still I was just [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► looking at the bottom line of course i'm [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► probably gonna get a new record sometime [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► this year or next and music if you get [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► on and I don't like my civic we'll talk [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► about that some other time being if you [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► get the bottom of the line accord with [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► the stick shift your you have three [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► color choices like white white black and [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► some ugly tank I don't think even get [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► silver is a choice i have to look at it [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► again and see what the exact colors of [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► but your choices are very limited and so [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► white ends up being like the like I [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► don't know they just the punch color [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► risky i always thought that was silver [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► because there was a time from probably [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► about two thousand two until maybe 2010 [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► where every car was available in 14 [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► shades of silver and then like black and [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► blue and white maybe and that was it [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► like all the other colors got pushed [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► away except in and usually like a [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► high-end sports car maybe then you can [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► get red or something but all the other [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► colors went away and you only had all [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► these different shades of silver and [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► every single car you saw on the road in [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► the last decade is silver and that seems [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► to finally come back now and it without [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► soothing light silver it wasn't it [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► wasn't even like the nice dark deep ones [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► that look kind of nice [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► it was like light silver so every car [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► look the same not even nice with the [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► DeLorean like just light silver that's [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► not paint another Lauren yeah i know [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► it's okay and cause the proud owner of a [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► white car why don't you not just one [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► white car you all the secrets of the [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► wheels car [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► this goes back quite a way so actually [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► one of the things I figured we could [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► talk about it some juncture was our [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► individual car histories and actually to [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► answer this question I need to go back [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► through my individual car history so [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► that time as any [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► yeah so I hope you have to tell us about [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► all of your white cars yeah i did this [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► is true so when I started driving my dad [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► had a 1994 saturn sl2 [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► which I think was like 16 grand off the [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► showroom floor or something like that [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► the thing was a piece of garbage the [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► moment it rolled off the assembly line [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► with its plastic panels and the whole [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► rigmarole but it was as nice of a piece [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► of garbage you can get I suppose that [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► was white as well as glowing [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► recommendation [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► yeah actually I love that car until one [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► of the wheels fell off as I was driving [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► by the way is another story I'd like to [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► tell at some point see I'm already [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► foreshadowing I can handle this but then [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► after that by pure happenstance we had a [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► friend of my dad's had 1991 300zx the [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► non turbo very boring overweight and [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► generally useless kind and that was [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► white and we ended up my my parents [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► ended up buying that is a fun car [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► because it had t-tops which kids these [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► days don't even know what those are but [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► suffice to say you could remove two [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► panels on the roof of the car and and [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► you only have one small sliver of [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► structure between them and that was [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► white and when I graduate or why was my [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► spring semester senior college I bought [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► that car car off my parents and i drove [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► that and so now I've gone from Saturn to [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► 300zx both white [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► well this 300zx ended up always being [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► broken [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► go figure because it was a 91 in this [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► was 2004 so at some point I thought well [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► you know what if I'm gonna pay five [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► hundred dollars a month in mechanics [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► fees why don't I just buy a new car and [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► pay the four five hundred dollars a [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► month or whatever it may be to to a loan [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► and I decided to get a subaru legacy gt [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► so it was pretty much all the speed of [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► the WRX but none of the boy racer look [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► at me kind of looks and just trying to [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► holders and that sometime by the way you [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► have what i know and so just by virtue [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► of the fact that i've had two white cars [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► before oh and by the way when the Z was [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► broken i borrowed my dad's white [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► wrangler and so by virtue of always [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► having been in white cars i figured well [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► the hell with it i'll just get it and [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► white and I bought that that subaru new [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► well then just a few months ago I [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► decided while the subaru is starting to [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► spend more time off the road than on so [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► let me finally turning [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► to a complete program or remove all [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► doubt from the fact that I'm a complete [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► print and let me following our good [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► friend Marcos footsteps and get myself a [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► 3-series and it was by pure happenstance [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► that I got a white 335 and actually I [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► had nearly bought i am going to butcher [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► the the name of the blue but i want to [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► say was a laguna seca blew it was a BMW [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► individual color from that if i'm not [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► mistaken i almost bought a 335 that had [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► that unbelievably pretty blue but the [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► deal fell through and I just so happened [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► to find this one in white so to be [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► honest with you for this car I had no [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► intention of buying a white one it was [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► just by pure happenstance that that's [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► how it worked out [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► and of course now Marco mercilessly [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► makes fun of me for the fact that I've [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► always heard from white cars see if if [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► if it had only been if this was your [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► second white car or your third white car [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► I would believe that story [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► well it is my third if you don't count [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► the time when I borrowed dad's wrangler [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► well and and the ones you had before it [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► sounds like it's like what your fifth [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► know it's the saturn the Z the borrowed [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► wrangler and then the go into Superman [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► 73 this would be should got your day so [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► this is the this is the fourth sir at [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► this incessant now John I i never have [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► asked you what color your car is my [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► karai have not known until this point [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► however I just assumed just by knowing [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► you that you could not possibly be a [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► white car person I'm not a white car [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► person but my first car that I ever [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► owned was white not because I picked up [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► because I inherited from my parents as [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► to help in the case you and i'm not sure [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► why they picked white in it [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► I didn't mind though it was 92 civic I [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► didn't mind quite in my car but it [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► certainly was not the color that I would [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► have picked if I bought it myself but it [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► everything for the reasons I decided [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► before if there's anything I don't like [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► about the shape of a car no way I'm [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► gonna get in white and even if i did [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► like everything about the shape of the [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► car I which is rare i would be worried [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► about dirt and white cars do look kind [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► of scummy especially if you're you know [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► New England the winter they get all [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► gross like the same reason the black [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► cars kind of maintenance headache where [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► it looks great when it's all black and [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► sleep but then the road salt covers the [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► whole bottom third of the car it's not [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► looking so hot name [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► I i think you know anytime you bring up [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► car color choices you always hear this [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► argument about dirt and showing dirt and [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► everything else I think it's all just [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► total i I really don't think that [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► different colors really show or hide [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► dirt any better than other colors it in [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► a meaningful difference because you know [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► the fact is cars with these highly [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► polished clear-coated beautiful and [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► sometimes these metallic colors that [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► look really nice [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► there's these these huge sheets of [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► usually curved metal that that are [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► highly polished and painted like this [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► and look awesome when they're clean [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► if you put down any of those colors [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► you're going to see it especially if you [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► put a lot of dirt like if you're driving [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► on salty roads are in on dirt roads or [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► any point that like you're going to see [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► that regardless of our color you have [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► but it's like it's the missing effect [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► like an England especially in the winter [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► when you have the spray and the salt [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► like you get the white missing and a [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► white missing over a pure black car [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► radically changes the color whereas i'm [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► not white missing over say a silver car [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► very subtly changes the color obviously [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► gloss is always going to go away from [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► dirt but salt in particular because it's [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► not like localized it's you know very [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► subtle it will be very subtle on a car [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► that kind of matches the color of road [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► salt kind of neutral whereas on a on a [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► black car with totally show up in white [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► it's the the mud and dirt factory you [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► can get a surprising amount of like [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► sprayed on mud on the bottom part of [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► like a forest green car and it will be [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► like what kind of lenses but you get [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► that in a white garlic someone to a dump [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► on the bottom of your car is just [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► terrible looking [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► are you sure that's not because if you [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► see a forest green car in 2013 it's [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► probably like 94 camry which already [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► looks kinda crappy and their that [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► integer low that is definitely on energy [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► insider camry or it's the subaru outback [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► wagon that hasn't died from like 2001 or [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► 95 i just tried to put a link into the [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► two cat things because i can't find a [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► group chat room of this laguna seca blue [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► yeah it wasn't going to say it's LeMond [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► I was wrong [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► hope is that blue is not good now that [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► blue see that in french i mean i just [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► tried it I don't even know that how you [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► say it I'm not gonna try [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► that's because you're smart i actually [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► just paste it in the group chat area [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► because i can find it because i know how [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► to use it not just your life with her [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► is it roic let's see what we got here I [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► think this podcast contain as much [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► clicking this time and typing as [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► possible because everyone likes [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► listening to the yeah that's that's [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► that's a nice blend a decent blue is [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► yours a group [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► no mine is not mine is a four-door I the [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► only Cooper had is Suzie and while it [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► was fun i don't think i'll ever do it [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► again the coop has better-looking [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► headlights in a better looking around [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► the city in so handy so are you kind of [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► like a rear-end guy with cars now I [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► don't think I'm just saying that certain [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► cars have how about your women different [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► at different characteristics that would [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► stand out [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► well I found I found over time that that [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► what I look at in a car like that the [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► features that i care alot of that have [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► changed and so more recently I i just [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► had to place an order for my next car [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► because my lease is going to expire and [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► we'll talk about that some other time [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► but this is the first time ever i've [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► ever purchased a car or I've given a [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► crap at all about the wheels like wheel [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► styling is this whole different world [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► the first time really all the usually [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► scars I've had the ones i've gotten used [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► I haven't even noticed the wheels and [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► the ones I've gotten to I just picked [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► the stock wheels whatever they came with [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► I'd never have paid extra for premium [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► wheels or anything like that i always [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► thought that was like rims on I've ever [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► even purchased tire i thought that was [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► the most common thing that even like [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► non-car people would be picky about I [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► thought that was like them you know the [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► the lowest-hanging fruit of once you [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► become interested in cars appearance [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► wheels right away now am I crazy [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► no I would agree with that and actually [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► one of the things so the 335 that I got [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► it was impossible to find because I was [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► trying to get one used and and I wanted [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► one with the m-sport package and so this [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► actually ties into what both were saying [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► the m-sport package of him honest is [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► really an obnoxious I'm gonna put [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► aesthetic cladding all over the car that [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► makes it seem like it's closer to an m3 [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► but it's not and the reason i wanted it [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► was because the front air dam I way low [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► below the kidneys on the front of the [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► car is quite a bit bigger than the [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► standard be 93 series and i think it [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► makes a world of difference so [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► for me to your point Marco I never used [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► to care about an air dam but now I feel [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► like that makes a world of difference in [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► the other thing about it that I really [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► loved were the wheels and the the link [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► that i pasted in the chat with the look [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► at the lemond blue has different wheels [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► even though i believe that is named [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► sport but the point I'm driving it is i [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► would agree that wheels are even amongst [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► non card weeds are one of the things [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► that almost anyone will look at because [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► that's why they're all the aftermarket [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► rim market is so packed because you know [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► people who may not be that the cars that [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► like the wheels jump out at you I would [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► break down car aesthetics into like [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► pieces named after body parts because [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► the way we do it [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► there's the face of the car like you [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► know the front of it BMW have this thing [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► to face with the headlights as being the [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► eyes and kind of the the grill is being [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► the nose and mouth and stuff like that [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► there is the tale of the car was kind of [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► the cars but and you can have you know a [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► big fat but low squat butter whatever [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► and then I did the neck the other pieces [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► like the overall shape like how long are [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► the overhang is it like cab foreigner [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► cab backwards that have a humongous hood [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► in a little bubble on the backers and [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► more centered it's the reason it's the [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► reason mid-engined cars look so exotic [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► desk because the position of the engine [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► allows the overall shape of the car with [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► different regardless of the details of [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► the face regardless of details of the [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► butts or even the sides or anything [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► mid-engined cars look different because [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► the overall shape is different that's [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► why you know 911 looks different because [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► the engines in the back [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► those are the major components of a car [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► and of course the wheel so we just [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► talked about and everything after that [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► if you like these details like I don't [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► like the body cladding or the scoops on [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► the side or ugly or you know one of my [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► everyone has their own little individual [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► peeves one of my peeves is a side view [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► mirrors the way they're integrated into [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► the rest of the car can really be [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► off-putting to me especially on some [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► super cars when they get fancy [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► that's an interesting thing to pay [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► attention it's an idiosyncrasy like [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► wearing about somebody's ears all right [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► now it's not caring about someone [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► cuticle see what about bugs me is I i [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► recently gotten you know as since I've [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► been in the market for a car the last [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► couple months I've been [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► and paying a lot more attention to the [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► ones i see on the road because whenever [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► whenever a new car for me is near I get [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► totally obsessed the same way you [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► research toasters John I get totally [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► obsessed and and pay attention to [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► everything on the road and do all these [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► races all this research I cannot for the [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► life of me figure out how tioga has not [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► sued hyundai have you seen I I gotta [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► find a picture first of all we have to [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► create show notes i have to create a way [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► for those to appear and then i'll put a [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► link to these in these in these mystery [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► show notes [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► have you seen a recent hyundai sedan [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► recent now now I think they have parts [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► of their distinctively hyundai like I [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► don't think they look as much like todos [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► is you're making it out to be [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► because when i see a Hyundai it looks [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► like a Toyota that has made with the [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► swamp thing because they have two arms [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► of kind of lots of kind of weird like [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► aquatic creases fins and and striations [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► that Toyota doesn't do toad was far less [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► like bars of something that used to be [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► but now I very distinct an Irish bring [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► your done probably died know this stuff [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► has chiseled edges it's more like a dog [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► that's been sitting in the back up for [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► awhile hardware bunch of nerds basic [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► you're right know that I think with [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► Hyundai what what what bothered me the [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► most i wasn't i was in a parking lot i [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► was driving through and I saw a Hyundai [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► something so band but and build the [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► badge the logo badge on it first of all [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► the the styling of the Hyundai badge you [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► can tell it is intentionally a lot like [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► the positive edge you know I can have [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► its like the metal inside the oval with [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► the big kind of the diagonalization it's [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► all kind of sweep like it looks very [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► similar to the tree bench and then you [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► know how it with toyota and lexus they [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► do that obnoxious thing where they have [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► like the different faded blue tint [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► inside the badge for hybrid vehicles [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► using that kept updated the exact same [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► thing on Monday but i don't know i don't [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► even know whether it needs to be hybrid [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► for them or not it look the Hyundai [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► badge that I saw it is it looks exactly [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► like the Toyota hybrid badge [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► and let and even like oh it was a sonata [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► can remember even seeing the word sanada [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► on the trunk lid like it looked the same [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► style the Toyota uses when they put [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► camera no it's it was such a blatant rip [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► III was like I i tried to take a picture [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► of I had enough time to make sure they [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► don't use a Toyota hybrid powertrain a [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► lot of make carmakers do license that [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► from Toyota and use it so could be [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► they're actually using that power to me [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► that's it yeah you're right maybe that [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► could be it but you think they would [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► because it seemed like on tons of people [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► do that i'm always amazed at like 100 [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► competitors will license each other [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► stuff because like we don't have a one [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► of these and they do and despite the [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► fact that were deadly enemies will like [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► okay we'll just use their stuff looks [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► like the Toyota biru the god I'm drawing [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► a blank [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► the subaru brz and am 6i think the same [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► as the ford probe and the was the other [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► one come on our people for pro but it's [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► doing it was the oh there with the know [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► i'm wrong but one of the European things [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► that they mentioned on top here that i [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► always forget about you guys can both be [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► too young the ford probe had a twin that [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► I believe was a monstery going back [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► father was the law of the plymouth laser [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► 466 now LOL sedan anyway that there's [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► been these these twin cars like the [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► current FRS and brz from many different [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► makers and the ford probe was one of the [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► twins and I forget where the other one [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► was and the plymouth laser was twins [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► with the eagle talon that's a little bit [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► different because both jam but when the [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► talent was the mitsubishi eclipse 20th [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► got out I was somehow the Japanese when [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► you mitsubishi eclipse the the one with [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► laser in the Ford the eagle talon where [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► the same car and the ford probe is the [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► same car is some maybe maza thing afford [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► it must have been always been close but [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► yeah that that happens a lot and like [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► the super thing is weird because like [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► big favor he like wait a second you you [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► pick the powertrain from subaru that's [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► what you picked from the super part of [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► this partnership and people love [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► horizontally-opposed engines Casey love [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► them i will all based on one purchase [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► and how I love horizontally-opposed into [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► you love the wine got actually shimmy in [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► the wine it's funny because one of the [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► things that that struck me so odd about [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► the legacy was that despite being a [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► turbocharged car you could never ever [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► here [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► the hits of the turbo and one of the [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► things that I actually do not like about [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► the 335 is that I can actually hear blow [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► off valve so now i sound like one of [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► those douchebag kids that used to drive [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► around campus when I was included in [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► school with their you know that new at [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► the time WRX is with these you blow off [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► valves and so they just dropped you [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► drive around stand on the gas from 0 to [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► 10 miles an hour and shifts all you [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► here's lops and that's what we heard [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► over and over again and it was [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► ridiculous and I i guess it's just [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► because I'm so sensitive to it but I can [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► hear the blow-off valve in the 335 or [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► maybe it's a recirculating valve which [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► is I think how the subaru worked but [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► whatever it is I here nevermind we have [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► a blow-off valve and it drives me [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► berserk [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► see I don't know much about how these [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► things actually work and and what the [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► sounds of them hearing this and I i [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► attribute most turbocharged cars is in [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► the exhaust note when you lift off the [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► gas and I think it's the wastegate if [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► I've heard these terms correctly and it [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► kind of sounds like the exhaust like has [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► like a congested throat for a second you [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► know talking about [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► yeah that's it from the turbo i'm not [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► sure which one it is but the wastegate [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► well I am no mechanic but my [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► understanding is the bluff Alan [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► wastegate basically had served the same [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► purpose just do it different ways email [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► kc ya please help me God I'm screwed [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► but but yeah I mean it's it turbocharged [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► cars are just an odd breed which could [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► probably dedicate a whole episode 2 if [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► we really cared well and we probably [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► will [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► where did we start out we were talking [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► about mutant clone cars yeah I don't [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► know why they decided to take the subaru [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► drivetrain expect and why not take a [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► turbocharged one I mean why we're using [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► this naturally aspirated horizontally [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► opposed four-cylinder in what is from [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► everything I've read this unbelievably [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► great and nimble chassis and but from [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► everything I've read it's very [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► underpowered and that just seems tiny I [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► see a lot of on the road I think that [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► car is a great idea that's a great idea [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► example like if i look at that car that [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► think when I saw pictures of them like [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► little homely right there when you see [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► it in the road still don't like the face [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► the butt is so so but the overall shape [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► is very attractive like it doesn't look [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► like other cars in order reminds me of [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► kind of like not your bloated nineties [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► 300gb like the one before that you can [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► kiss my I like that I like that 300 z [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► was less blood than current cars but it [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► was it like 300 he puffed out like you [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► remember the original like they're only [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► the Datsun 240 and maybe that's also [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► before your times but like some all [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► Japanese cheap a rear-wheel-drive sports [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► car that was like you know actually [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► cheap that like you could buy it if you [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► could price shop next to an accord you [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► know that type of price that Z we had [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► that we bought it from the original [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► owner and and he had the sticker and i [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► don't remember exactly but i want to say [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► in 1991 the Z was like 37,000 or [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► something absurd like this and this was [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► a non turbo this thing was obese is a [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► whale it couldn't get out of its own way [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► it handled reasonably well and it was a [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► lot of fun but in 91 it was like thirty [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► seven thousand dollars i mean that's [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► just unbelievable [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► that's Wow see ya in today's dollars [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► that's like what like 300,000 yeah it's [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► whatever it is it's a lot i can tell you [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► that but your car in the chat room there [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► with the t-top but before that it was [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► like a couple it's a horrible rice [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► lightweight oh well you know it's hard [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► to find google image search shows me [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► lots of things with body cladding gonna [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► tell you [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► well it was a nice friendly car to say [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► the least and then so is my 92 civic are [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► we allowed to say rice is that like [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► racially insensitive or has a neutral [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► term now I think it is not neutral and [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► it is racially insensitive but the thing [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► about it is is like when you know you're [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► besmirching the cut the I guess it [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► indirectly the people who made the car [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► but you kind of talking it's more like [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► you're talking about geographically [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► speaking where it comes from and then [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► you're saying you know but like that i [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► think it may have wrapped around because [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► it's we're using it as kind of a term of [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► my love is determined dearman because we [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► think that kind of aftermarket stuff is [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► a little bit gaudy but I don't know [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► people call the motorcycles they go [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► really fast rice rockets and I think [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► they mean it [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► well I don't do they mean it as a [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► compliment I don't know you had a whole [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► other motorcycles I don't know anything [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► about american cars i don't know [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► anything about I mean there's the SUVs [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► vans that whole category i don't know [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► anything about like once you get your [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► minivan you know all about that right [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► no i don't think so i have left my next [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► family car and it is not an event i saw [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► your next family car was going over the [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► throgs neck bridge just this weekend [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► with my brother and a four-wheel drive [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► BMW 5-series drop acid is marcos next [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► car could be him on his way home we'll [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► see about that [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► icic pretty cloudy because I what [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► happened no what are you kidding i like [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► that's terrible [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► now i feel privileged because i know and [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► that now I'm not gonna say anything [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► see the problem without first of all I [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► found that every time like different [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► different car brand dealers i found are [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► actually fairly consistent between [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► different dealerships in like their [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► attitudes and how nice they are housed [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► there to you like if you found that like [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► that like within the brand it's usually [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► pretty much the same i haven't done [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► enough car dealerships to Noah and [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► everyone i've been to for every brand [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► has been slimy CII fat so I did all like [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► car dealership stuff when I was growing [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► up in Columbus where I would always go [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► with anybody in my family who was going [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► going to the dealer to get a new car [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► something which didn't happen much as [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► you know my my whole childhood we [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► basically had three toyota's that would [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► like that cover my entire flight from [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► birth until I graduated from college I [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► was three toyota's and and only because [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► the first one was like 10 years before [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► my birth when I started so I would [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► always go anyway and of course i would [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► always you know like fake that was [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► interested even when I was 17 and oh [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► yeah look at that mr2 that's interesting [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► entry no try to get myself a test drive [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► and usually i would succeed and they [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► knew i couldn't buy it you know but they [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► didn't it was like you know a tuesday [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► they were bored so anyway huh [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► but I found like Toyota has been [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► remarkably bad it so between columbus [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► Pittsburgh and two different places in [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► New York i have found toyota dealerships [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► have been ridiculous just sleazy like [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► nasty rude and animal and the [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► salespeople badger me like look crazy [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► afterwards like the [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► if you give them a phone number it's [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► actually real they'll call you every [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► single day wondering if you've made your [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► purchase decision yet and when you want [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► to come in its crazy like super high [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► pressure all the sleazy stuff with the [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► you know going to go to my manager and [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► i'll see you know and all that stuff [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► which you know you wouldn't think so [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► because Twitter otherwise is a pretty [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► respectable brand but like it just had [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► like a honda i found was very good Honda [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► was really super nice in into different [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► dealerships honda has been awesome to me [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► like really because it might my car [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► before I before the dark time in [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► Brooklyn that was a Honda and perfectly [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► nice people nice on really super-nice [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► volkswagen terrible [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► howdy terrible i think your sample size [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► is way too small because how many folks [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► working with ginger 230 yes instituted [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► sample size is way too small because I [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► think becomes what it comes down to is [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► that unlike apple stores card car [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► manufacturers either can or just do [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► exert very little control over their [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► dealers and so the variability is crazy [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► because like from that perspective we [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► just send you these cars and you have to [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► make numbers or whatever and there are [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► different strategies to do that one of [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► them is the obnoxious hard selling as [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► obnoxious as that is it probably [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► producing results other one is like [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► those that were friendly come to us [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► thing and that works for some people and [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► it could be regional or just who happens [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► to own the thing or who owns the chain [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► you know what some dudes last name it's [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► like insert last name here [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► honda brand you just learned that guy [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► makes all his his dealers do the [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► high-pressure sales thing but like Honda [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► i think has no control over that because [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► they just you know they have a dealer [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► network and it's like a franchise thing [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► and I don't care what you're doing your [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► dealer just follow our rules and sell [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► our cars but then like the National [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► place called you after you buy something [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► that big survey and all the dealers like [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► please radios all fives it helps a lot [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► of us that's my favorite part of the [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► dinosaur cut our funding they're gonna [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► kill my entire family if you put [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► anything other than five yeah every [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► single question that's us that's the [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► highest pressure part they sell that [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► harder than like the extended warranty [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► yes that's because that's what they're [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► you know but like I think some of the [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► luxury bands to exert some control like [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► I think like that they're not real [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► high-end brands like a Mercedes BMW [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► lexus and i think i just read something [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► about lexus redoing this have like a [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► kind of like a story Bible for a TV show [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► but they have for the dealer's never [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► like apple store stuff like this is the [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► way the dealership works this is how it [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► looks this is the roles of the people [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► who are involved in it when you come in [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► this person greets you they get you know [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► like they really try to nail it down to [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► provide a consistent experience but of [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► course you can afford to do that when [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► the margin of your car or as big as the [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► margins for bmw's but when you're [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► selling honda's you selling you know [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► sixteen thousand dollar honda's you [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► probably don't have a lot of money left [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► over to be enforcing some no strict [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► policy that kind of reminds me of [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► Saturday know speaking of cases other [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► terrible cars a saturn dealer think [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► number they did like the no-haggle [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► pricing and like we're all family here [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► like they definitely had a theme you [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► know from the mother ship you know grant [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► GM whatever but they said we're going to [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► do this weird side project with these [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► terrible plastic cars that no one wants [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► but the deals we really friendly and you [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► won't have to haggle a little bit fixed [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► price and we'll see how that works but [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► it turns out if you make a lousy car [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► that doesn't work it [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► well it's funny you bring that bring up [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► Saturn in that regard because there's a [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► used car dealership and I don't know how [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► big they are but carmax is of is very [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► much taking up that no haggle mantle [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► that that Saturn once had and so carmax [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► actually is a spin-off of circuit city [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► and circuit city was based in richmond [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► virginia which is where i am and so [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► there's a carmax every three feet here [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► and they are very much the no haggle and [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► you know hey if you buy the car sweet if [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► you don't we really don't care [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► sort of place and it its it's an odd [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► experience my mother-in-law actually [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► just bought a car from them and I went [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► along with her to help her out when she [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► did her initial visit and it's very [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► weird they didn't really give the heart [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► cell now with that said when we bought [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► errands car my wife's car [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► she is a two thousand seven months 26 [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► and that literally took us a year to get [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► the dealer to come down to a price we're [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► willing to pay which was not that [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► absurdly low a price and it they did the [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► hard sell they did they let me talk to [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► the manager at one point towards the end [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► they said yes we'll match that price [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► will give you that price and we came in [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► to sign the paperwork and they said well [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► only if you financed through us and it [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► was just I was awful it was absolutely [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► terrible [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► we found in our in so one of the ways [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► i've seen so many dealerships around [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► here recently is because a couple years [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► ago we are looking for a car for my wife [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► and we we did eventually get a lexus [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► is250 which I'll tell you all about some [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► of the time and you say i have this cars [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► i mean come on I didn't pick it and it [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► to to be fair Alexis it is a reasonable [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► car and in many ways it is quite good in [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► many ways it's not so anyway we were [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► looking at so many different dealers [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► because what what she wanted was a car [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► that does not exist in america which is [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► a nice small hatchback that is that has [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► a luxurious interior the audi a3 is [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► almost that car but that's pretty much [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► the only choice so far and act like [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► nothing else really comes comes close to [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► that that's available in the u.s. right [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► now our god help you if we ever release [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► this because every GTI owner under the [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► sun is going to email you and show you a [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► new one [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► yeah that the other will be a 3 is like [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► a luxury GTI right and and it feels like [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► it which is unfortunate because it costs [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► twice as much roughly and it in short [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► the problem with the audi a3 one of the [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► biggest reasons we did not select it is [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► because it only has one powered seat [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► I don't even know how to say this [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► delicately but do you know how douchey [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► you sound don't think about it think [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► about what that into so it's this car [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► that costs a lot it's like once you add [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► reasonable options to an audi a3 I off [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► top of my head I forget you know exactly [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► but I think it's like a 34 thousand [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► dollar car 35 that like it can get up [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► there really fast [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► well GTI's what are near 30 i think or [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► even over 30 are they really well anyway [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► I don't know the the a3 can get really [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► expensive really fast once you put any [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► reasonable options on [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► so you're driving around is this very [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► expensive car you know for what it is [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► for for a small hatch [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► yes it has a luxurious interior you know [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► sort of but for the most part it is you [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► know it is that but it doesn't really [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► feel like much more of an expensive car [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► than the GTI does and the GTI oh my god [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► please email Casey the GI doesn't feel [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► that different from golf like it the [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► interior quality wise driveways of [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► course yeah it's way faster and [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► everything but the quality of the [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► Interior the seat comfort all that stuff [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► not that different between [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► the Gulf the GTI and the a3 and that's [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► really the problem is like you know [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► whenever you get a car like that you [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► know that the base golf is what like [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► seventeen thousand dollars something [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► like that no so you basically feel like [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► you're still in a seventeen thousand [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► dollar car in a lot of ways even when [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► you're in the 30 whatever [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► thousand-dollar 83 [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► yeah that's the problem with a car's a [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► luxury brands made by luxury cars made [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► by brands that are really luxury brands [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► is that a certain point you go you [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► overextend the company parent company's [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► parts been right at the audi a3 [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► shouldn't have that problem really goes [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► out he doesn't make fancy cars but the [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► greater the best examples like the [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► Corvette was like the Corvette is as it [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► has been especially in recent years [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► I'm very respectable performance car but [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► it's made by a parent company that does [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► not have an excess of interior parts and [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► design know how to make a luxury things [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► you buy a hundred-thousand-dollar [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► corvette zr1 and the interior looks like [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► $15,000 car with chunky plastic and [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► uncomfortable seats and you're like [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► what's going on here like well I don't [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► know they just they don't have they [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► don't know how to make nice interiors [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► for their car sorry we didn't like it [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► you think they would throw more money at [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► either just not a priority or they just [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► don't have those things available so of [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► course like no matter how much you got [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► to have that Volkswagen like [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► everything's big exception of the but [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► faith beyond or the hell that crazy [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► Phaeton Phaeton 250 grand VW didn't [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► catch on [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► they just don't have parts and then the [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► the Volkswagen parts been to make a [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► luxurious colleges have sturdy center [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► workmanlike German parts when and the [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► any other problem with the a3 is that [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► because you know it so it is it is [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► basically a an audi s5 like a luxury [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► version of the GTI but then it's also [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► out his lowest and car yet which means [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► and how do i want to capitalize the [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► hyatt their higher end sail u-va for is [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► not that much more above it you know [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► segment wise especially like the four [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► wagons but not that much you know bigger [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► different more expensive it's very close [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► so they don't want to capitalize those [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► silver so you have like this ugly [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► duckling of a car where it had it has to [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► justify its a debadge it is a premium [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► priced car but he doesn't want to make [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► too nice it's also a pretty small card [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► is not a lot of you know room there to [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► add a bunch of heavy luxurious stuff [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► either so you want to save weight safe [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► sighs but still have this 30-something [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► thousand-dollar little hatchback really [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► nice isn't he 3 also is another case [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► where there's a small version of a [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► well-known us brand that has been [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► available for europe for seven [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► generations they just never been to the [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► US because we don't like small cars and [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► all of a sudden they deign to bring it [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► to the US I don't know I realized [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► realized what we're getting is the [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► current generation of the a3 that's been [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► available in europe for two decades and [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► in Europe becomes a stick shift in cloth [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► seats but here it's like oh well those [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► Americans they think about is a luxury [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► brand so we better go see it up and you [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► know so it's not like you're getting the [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► you're getting too fancy version of what [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► is actually a much more prosaic car in [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► Europe they just hasn't been sold here [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► because we're big fat Americans writers [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► I mean they're very similar problems the [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► BMW 1-series very similar wherein in [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► Europe they sell a whole lot of one [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► series cars that are actually exactly [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► what it was looking for you know small [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► hatchbacks that are that have nice [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► interiors but they also have a huge you [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► know medium and lower end market that we [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► don't get over here you know that you [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► know little things that have like one [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► and a half liter engine stuff like that [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► but that's what the reason I brought the [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► a3 is because i really have to give [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► volkswagen credit they had the worst [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► dealer I've ever been like we go there [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► and we're trying to because we wanted to [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► basically compare the GTI and the a3 and [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► see if we can test drive both and see [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► how different they were and the dealers [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► we go in there and they have these these [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► like square leather cushioned kind of [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► modern takes on chairs and you sit on it [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► but it's it has a slight incline so you [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► sit on it and you immediately just slide [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► forward like you just slide off so they [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► have these chairs you could not sit the [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► only people that were that figure out of [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► sitting these where the two salesmen [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► that were sitting in these shares the [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► only place where customers can sit and [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► wait for anybody to sales were sitting [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► there eating lunch these giant like you [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► know unwrapped sandwich paper's like [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► fuck replace it like this like there's [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► nowhere else you guys can go like it was [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► so we're so you know we go immediately [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► any of we we were looking around for [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► somebody to help us nobody could help [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► but nobody was available nobody was [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► there but nobody was available [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► eventually we get help from you know we [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► finally find somebody who can help us [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► and we start asking okay so you know [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► we're looking at Matt maybe you know GTI [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► or maybe used to well configured golf [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► you know what you know what your [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► availability know what one of these [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► options are available and have a [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► question with the armrest the guy could [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► not answer a single question like he did [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► he couldn't even tell us like whether [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► they would have any or not like it was [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► it was ridiculously simple questions oh [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► is this thing an option [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► oh I don't let me look in the book and [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► he would you know where this big book I [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► don't know you put your pages all this [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► first week on the job Marco number i [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► don't think so like it just and and he [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► didn't I don't know when was this [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► because you might not look like serious [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► buyers two years ago I had well-being [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► you but you're both short and look young [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► we showed up in a 328i mean it couldn't [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► have been that bad but they don't know [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► that they don't know that they see you [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► drive up and they might have actually in [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► with it here in New York there's not a [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► lot of room for parking lots so [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► generally when you hook up to a dealer [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► your parking right in front of the [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► showroom in one of four spots they have [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► available maybe and and then you know [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► they have some giant garage or a lot [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► somewhere else has their actual [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► inventory in it i have some real-time [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► follow-up hair from who i was down for [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► anything for myself I i was trying I was [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► killing me that I can remember what the [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► heck between carter the $YEAR ford probe [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► is and maybe I was just misremembering [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► it just because ford probe is based on a [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► lot of mazda parts so to make up for my [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► flub in thinking that the former between [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► card I've looked up another one is a [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► mitsubishi 3000gt in the beauty and the [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► dodge stealth remember those twins like [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► those were with the probe I remembered [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► also not with the probe those are like [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► I'm making up for my 4 i'm [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► misremembering of the probe the probe [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► was a Ford car that was filled with [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► mazda parts right but the mitsubishi [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► 3000gt and the dodge stealth were the [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► same car with different you know right [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► and they were the competitor to my 300zx [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► well maybe not mine decided crummy one [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► but in principle the 3000gt was this [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► massively wasn't long and i'm american [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► we was a fake Ferrari was effect [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► companies for our EMR to the mr2 is a [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► miniature fake Japanese [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► ferrari and mitsubishi 3000gt and judge [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► sell for bigger thought the best thing [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► about the mitsubishi speaking of styling [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► is one of my favorite things ever seen [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► car stalling so the mitsubishi 3000gt [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► was shamelessly copping off i think it [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► was the kind of wished you remember the [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► car styling was it was copying off of i [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► think it was copying off of the ferrari [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► 360 what I'm i don't know i'm going to [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► moderate but they had scoops in the side [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► of their car that are no I reverse first [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► they were doing the 348 348 had like the [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► fins kinda like testarossa but not [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► really like fewer fins on the ferrari [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► 348 right and so the mitsubishi 3000gt [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► had little fins on the side like 340 and [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► when the 360 came out and traded the [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► fins too much larger scoop things they [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► changed the body cladding on the side of [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► 3000gt from a bunch of pins to two [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► scoops and it was just like this tiny [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► little mirror of yet we're tracking for [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► our styling that closely that it's like [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► the cars look nothing like each other [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► except that was clearly trying to have [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► right but this one little details like a [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► sticker on the side of the car [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► practically not really but what this [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► tiny little detail like oh that they [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► changed it's not it's not friends [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► anymore [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► quick get a new piece of plastic and [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► slap it on there so it looks like me it [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► was just it was something that couldn't [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► have been accidental because the track [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► is so closely and yeah but that's that's [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► just the Japanese have a little bit of a [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► pro aspirational styling problem [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► especially a long time ago and I think [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► now that I've kind of found their own [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► but now did you know that both the [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► 3000gt vr4 and the twin-turbo 300zx of [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► that era so I'm talking early nineties [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► both of them had four-wheel steering and [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► if memory serves at least on the z at [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► low speeds it when I'm a butcher this [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► it's so email Marco but at low speeds [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► the the rear wheels would turn with the [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► front wheel and I'm sorry against the [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► front wheel so if you turn the front [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► wheels to the left the rear wheels [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► return to the right if i'm not mistaken [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► so you could shorten the turning radius [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► and then at high speed would actually do [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► the reverse [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► yep at the prelude had that too i think [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► everyone could be i'm not sure to be a [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► horrible steering was was a thing was [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► definitely a thing [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► this is the same time the vtec was a [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► thing and if you're really young then [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► I've just dated all through here for its [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► it has now they have now there's like 14 [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► more letters aren't like ivy tech 17t to [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► rely on that is foremost so I think [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► that's still around in higher end cars [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► right four-wheel steering honestly don't [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► know i think it was an option on the [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► $DAY $YEAR 5 series but not i think not [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► with X drivers there are some kind of [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► weird condition I i think it was not [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► compatible with all the drive which is [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► bizarrely counterintuitive but hey [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► speaking of what do i get to lecture you [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► about you not needing all-wheel-drive [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► just worried I was going to say when we [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► talk about the next car [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► yeah that's good i just going to say [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► that I don't want to spoil it [TS]

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00:43:11 ◼   ► positive pictures and I put a 348 and [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► the original mitsubishi 3000gt styling [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► actually I think that's a dodge stealth [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► but same difference [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► see that see the little fins oh yeah and [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► little friends and then Casey put in the [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► one when they changed it to be the [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► bigger scoops and if you go find like a [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► 360 with the bigger scoops or that [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► actually that the 430 had double scoops [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► like that they were just they were [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► tracking that styling cues on the side [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► of their cars because and if they [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► totally tried to make them look the same [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► body shape wise 3000 GT was actually [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► pretty good performance car for its time [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► do I always really wanted an mr2 like [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► before the spider generation like those [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► for the corner nineties generation [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► because it looks like a miniature for [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► our you're like a miniature person so [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► it's a good fit [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► look really cool I've never in my life [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► even been in one though like I've never [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► there i've never gotten to the point [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► where I could almost buy one and two [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► attacks we take a test drive of one you [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► know by the time I mean a 94 when they [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► stopped making them i think in the u.s. [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► that was the year I was in sixth grade [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► so I couldn't really test drive one knew [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► and they were just they just sold so [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► badly in the u.s. that i was never able [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► to really find one widely available to [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► test drive anywhere [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► no one knew ever had one thing even the [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► mr2 spyder when that came out first of [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► all I think the mr2 spyder was was kind [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► of a weird thing to make and kind of [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► weird thing to call mr too because it [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► was so unlike the previous one in some [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► you know the previous one was a t-top [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► amazingly I that's the only reason I [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► know what t-tops ours because the mr2 [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► was one any others like you notice this [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► two-door coupe the mr2 spyder was [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► convertible only all soft top and the [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► way you know this short small car and [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► look I guess it was it was it was [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► confusingly similar looking for the [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► porsche boxster to it through the casual [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► I and I think that kind of heard it [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► because everyone thought it was like a [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► ripoff Porsche and then but it but at [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► the same time I think it was not nearly [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► as good or as popular as the mazda miata [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► so it just didn't do well in the market [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► the emerging spider but i did that was [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► my that was the first time where ever [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► thought I was really getting away with [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► something by convincing a dealer to let [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► me test drive a sports car was the mr2 [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► spyder want you know I was bringing in [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► my mom's 94 camera to get an oil change [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► one time and you know i have 20 minutes [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► to kill [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► well hey let me go to go over to sales [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► always an easy trick you know i'm here [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► for servers own maybe consider an [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► upgrade and like yeah obviously this [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► college kid driving a 94 toyota camry [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► that has a it has like a hippie dream [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► catcher hanging from the window [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► obviously not his car well maybe I don't [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► but probably not this kids car it's [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► probably not in the market to buy a [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► brand-new 20 whatever thousand-dollar [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► sports car but ok to Tuesday were slow [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► let's give them the chance to drive it [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► they had me the keys didn't even come [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► with me wait seriously yeah they stick [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► the sales guy hands me the keys to the [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► mr2 spyder parks it out front says all [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► right kid [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► here we go you know come back sometime [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► like it was so I'm like holy crap and it [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► was a stick and I i had known how to [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► drive stick for like three months before [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► this I wasn't very topic for another [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► yes I wasn't very good at it yet I I [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► wasn't very confident in myself driving [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► stick yet [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► and here they are handing me the keys to [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► this brand who are to spider it was the [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► most fun and yet in horribly [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► intimidating a nerve-racking test driver [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► I've ever taken I didn't take you very [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► far I was scared to be away for too long [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► so i took it like just down the block [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► and back [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► I was so freaked out and then we come [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► back the hardest thing I've ever done [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► driving a car the highest stress thing [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► ever i had to back into a parking spot [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► well while whoa and it was the parking [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► spot right in front of the giant glass [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► window of the dealership so he began [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► backing it was this car I i barely am [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► confident enough to even go or stop with [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► it because it's the stick that's [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► unfamiliar to me and I'm an amateur [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► stick driver ahead and i had to back it [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► up in this little parking spot in front [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► of the glass window oh my gosh that was [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► stressed [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► fortunately nothing bad happen i go and [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► all freaked out thinking I really got [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► away with something I meanwhile you know [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► they don't give a crap i didn't know [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► that I thought I really convinced them [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► oh yeah i'm a serious buyer they [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► couldn't give two crabs and they didn't [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► care at all just an mr2 right just like [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► because it looks like a Ferrari [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► yeah and and the fact is once i was [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► driving i didn't like it because first [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► of all i don't know i don't like sitting [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► that low maybe it's some short and I [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► feel like I have to get a better view . [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► all the time anyway but I don't like [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► sitting down that look like in in those [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► really small sporty cars but they had [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► that weird thing where the I think they [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► did more to wear for like two years [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► Twitter had the stupid design thing [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► where they would put the gauges in the [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► middle so you have to look to the right [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► to see them remember that toyota echo [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► did that do it for you don't have to [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► change focal distance as much from the [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► road that's the theory that was the [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► theory I don't know how [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► it was so weird the distracting tattoo [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► looks practice they do it so they don't [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► have to have a different dashboard for [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► left and right hand drive haha that [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► makes a lot more only if they're only if [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► they're straight up they taught them [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► towards the driver knows they were [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► tilted and and they were they were [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► tilted and they were in these long tubes [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► like they were really far away [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► maybe it was the focal distance thing is [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► they were they were they were so inset [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► very deeply into the dash and they had [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► they should these big tubes coming out [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► of it was weird but now and so I didn't [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► you know what the mr2 is really the all [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► the mr2 is pretty obscure cars now the [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► next block over from me [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► there's two mr to spiders on that block [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► it i don't know like I've never seen one [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► anywhere else there's two one block away [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► from my house [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► well that was the thing where it's like [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► the shape the overall shape of the mr2 [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► it looks different than the cars because [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► it's mid engine which is also what you [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► can't see out the back right all right [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► so it was a way to say can we get that [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► because people sense that shape that's [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► why they sense it supercars are [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► different you know they have no idea [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► what it was not blood red or anything [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► like who is that card is different its [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► low and wide and shaped differently [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► right so listen if we can do that but [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► still make the car costs like as much is [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► like a fancy accord or are you know [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► something then then we can get that [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► market and kind of work but it also kind [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► of like overheated and a bad performance [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► sound lousy well and I think the problem [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► like with toyota i think they've always [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► had this problem [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► well these least in the last 10 years or [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► so is that nobody really looks to toyota [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► for sportiness united or lexus for that [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► matter well you have this super was a [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► respectable sporty car until they just [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► made it into a giant wellness center on [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► its way but this super was a valid name [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► in the you know recently by sports car [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► world they just the drivers when was [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► that like when was the last time that [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► was mid nineties and in fact i was gonna [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► bring her to mark's 1i just someone [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► today on the road almost drove off the [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► road [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► toggling it the big whale one you saw [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► super yeah yeah I remember those there [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► certainly did it some more real-time [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► fall upon my thing here with the the [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► Ferrari Ferrari at the Ferrari 355 had [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► the double side strikes and that is the [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► one that the the GT copies so it was the [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► original 3,000 species UN treaty was [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► copying 348 then when for our way to 355 [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► and change from side street [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► it's too big openings so did mitsubishi [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► so I have all four pictures on my screen [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► now confirming that I'm not crazy [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► so what actually I have to ask you [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► you've made a number of references 22 [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► big fat bloated cars or to some car that [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► used to be good becoming big fat and [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► bloated so first of all I think it's [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► obvious that your you know your ear and [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► I fat people haha but i think it is [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► worth asking because you mentioned also [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► that you were probably going to be [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► replacing your ancient honda civic with [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► a newer honda accord now the honda [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► accord the modern honda accord the last [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► two generations by all measures have [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► been tremendous bloated cars in fact the [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► the accord is classified as a full-size [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► sedan now like open fire with the avalon [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► that's not usually what i mean when i [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► say bloated i'm not talking about the [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► EPA classification of the car [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► well Sam a meet the new Accords a [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► massive car well so here that what I [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► mean when I mean when I say blow two [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► things one sometimes in terms of styling [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► but the cars look like someone put an [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► air tube into the gloom up so that the [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► super was not a big car like the last [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► Super that was around to our super was [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► not like a big car probably wasn't even [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► that heavy it was probably very small [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► inside and out in terms of wheelbase and [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► everything about it but the body style [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► look like someone had put a tube in [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► there my puff puff puff until just [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► ballooned up like it just just look bub [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► euless as opposed to add the the exact [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► opposite of loaded would be the amount [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► last mazda rx-7 which look like someone [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► took a a deflated balloon and stretched [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► over a piece of muscle that's what that [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► car look like that's not everyone right [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► yeah not be rx8 which is kind of ugly [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► that the last rx7 goggle for a picture [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► of it that is the opposite of blow just [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► looks like tight and everything so [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► that's styling wise and non style was [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► just in general trend if you look at how [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► much cars away the weight of cars just [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► going up up that's why the the FRS and [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► the BRZ are sort of reversing that trend [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► to say we're going to sacrifice and any [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► material only other things to build a [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► lightweight car right we had its it's [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► kind of like its it actually to make [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► another fat analogy it is kinda like [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► like sighs inflation and clothing you [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► know like where like these the car [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► classifications have grown and grown and [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► grown because [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► I mean part of its been for safety [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► equipment you know what to do [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► regulations they have to add so many [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► airbags and roll bars and but it's not [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► just that this is always always [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► high-tension steel stiffeners they have [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► to put in the doors for the side impact [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► married microcars way a tremendous [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► amount more than they used to for the [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► same full-size car you'd be amazed if [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► you go back and look at like how much of [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► that giant whale of a car in the fifties [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► way they weighed nothing because they [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► were empty shells and if you hit them [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► into another one that crumbled into like [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► a like a soda can and you died right and [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► now they have all these reinforcing [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► materials and so much you know and now [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► basically just comes out to cost like [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► you can make any car you can shave a [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► thousand pounds off any carbon so I'm [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► gonna build entire frame out of aluminum [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► and all the skaters carbon fiber now [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► cost 200 grand right okay you can easily [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► do that or you make the whole thing that [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► carbon fibre tub and you know now it [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► costs a half-a-million dollars right so [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► we have the technology to make it light [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► is just in terms of expense but yet the [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► weight of anybody with a particular [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► carline look at the weight of the honda [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► civic starting from 1984 it's just a big [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► slope up it just goes up up the car then [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► you have the cards also get bigger [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► because because Americans are fat and [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► also tall taller than the Japanese [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► people but its safety stuff everything [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► the cars behavior and every everything [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► the trend is like look it has to stop at [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► some point all are going to cars are [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► going to weigh 10,000 pounds we have to [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► we have to find some way to combat you [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► know the increasing weight of cars so [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► that's another aspect of blood but the [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► main aspect i'm going to talk about [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► hundreds when we do a show about how [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► this has to do with just the philosophy [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► of what's important about the car and I [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► would agree with you the last generation [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► honda was bloated in many of the regards [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► i just talked about but the current [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► generation honda oh I haven't test [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► driven one yet for everything I've read [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► and having seen plenty of them in person [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► seems to be reversing that trend a [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► little bit to sort of go on a diet and [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► slim down both styling wise and you know [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► responses was in a real everything else [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► see hondahonda is special to me because [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► so so to give my brief car history you [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► know growing up always had toyota camrys [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► and then look one corolla than 12 [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► cameras and and then college I i briefly [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► borrowed my sister's corolla and then I [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► had my own nissan maxima which was [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► awesome i love the nissan maxima was it [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► was my second favorite card ever owned [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► all around and then maximo started [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► having tremendous problems i went into a [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► guy i got my very first new car in fact [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► the first new car [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► anybody my family ever they were all [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► used for that very first new car I i [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► bought a $YEAR honda accord and on paper [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► the honda accord is basically the [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► perfect car most of the time i get if [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► you if you go and try to buy a [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► general-purpose sedan that's going to be [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► reliable and a good value a honda accord [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► is is almost always the right choice or [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► at least one of the right choices [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► it's you know it's so it's great on [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► paper and I had the car for I think for [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► years and and what year was it wasn't [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► for and so I had a few years then moved [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► to Brooklyn and I tried keeping it there [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► keeping a car in Brooklyn is there is [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► usually a terrible idea it's [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► extraordinarily expensive insurance goes [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► through the roof parking is a tremendous [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► pain or a tremendous cost and a medium [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► pain it's ridiculous so eventually after [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► spending way too much on insurance and [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► parking i sold the car for way too [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► little money and then for awhile live in [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► Brooklyn then I moved out of Brooklyn [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► about my 328 and have loved everything [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► since then the honda accord is by far [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► the most forgettable car I've ever had [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► the camera is way more forgettable that [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► according to contest you on that the [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► camera is the the standard-bearer for [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► completely free edible pile of mush car [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► the cord is let much less forgettable [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► it's not as memorable as a BMW sure but [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► it's much more memorable than a camry I [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► mean did you drive you said you had your [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► family had a series of cameras and crows [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► yes did you drive them the last one yeah [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► because I was too young for the fingers [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► and you didn't notice the difference [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► between that camera in the accord you [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► got in terms of like how this car feels [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► and how responsive and lively is to [TS]