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0:00:13Jason now we're here today to talk about
0:00:15the classic film its it you could argue
0:00:17this is a an installment in my get more
0:00:20things about Star Trek on the
0:00:21incomparable series it's one of the
0:00:24finest Star Trek movies ever made
0:00:26it's a galaxy quest not a star trek
0:00:29movie and yet so much of star trek movie
0:00:31here to talk about this classic
0:00:33hilarious movie with me 1999 goodyear
0:00:38good year for movies are the following
0:00:40wonderful people
0:00:41scotland ltd I wouldn't talk about Star
0:00:43Trek without you it's good to have you
0:00:45here even though this isn't technically
0:00:46star trek i was about to say we aren't
0:00:48going to talk about probably will too i
0:00:50think i suspect we will it and I'm glad
0:00:53to be here chase
0:00:54good good good David lower also here as
0:00:57always
0:00:58well I'm very glad to be here Jason that
0:01:01didn't come out well at all
0:01:03we're not talking about the muppets
0:01:05today's street do i miss you fraud here
0:01:09Erica and sign you just heard her she's
0:01:12out there hello i am out here
0:01:14hello we have also Glenn fleischmann TVs
0:01:17Glenn Fleischman is joining us again
0:01:19hello Glenn welcome back
0:01:21thanks i grew a VanDyke beard just for
0:01:23this episode you know normally we have
0:01:25we have reintroduced people and they
0:01:27give us a clever lines from the thing
0:01:30that we watched or or read or whatever
0:01:32and I have like eight of them here and
0:01:34nobody did any so was i I hesitated to
0:01:38quick and you moved on to the next
0:01:39person i was going to claim that i was
0:01:40just simply going to be repeating the
0:01:42computer for the rest of this podcast I
0:01:45don't get it look I have one job on this
0:01:47lousy ship it's stupid but I'm going to
0:01:49do and Stewart and that is the introduce
0:01:52a very special guest a longtime listener
0:01:54first-time participant on this show it
0:01:56is Joseph rosenstiel you may know him as
0:02:00Joe steal Jojo I I'm just jazzed about
0:02:03being on the show man what you did there
0:02:09so that was i I was really hoping you'd
0:02:12say that so thank you
0:02:14you nailed in your 141 uncomfortable now
0:02:17you a perfect score don't blow it
0:02:19so legal steel
0:02:21perfect perfect you can be the security
0:02:24chief any day
0:02:25alright galaxy quest galaxy quest where
0:02:29where to begin this is a my sent some of
0:02:32you a link earlier to a story i remember
0:02:35reading when I was a kid and a Star Trek
0:02:37mythology which is called visit to a
0:02:39weird planet revisited which it turns
0:02:40out is like was like fan fiction but
0:02:42then it got picked up and run in a
0:02:45professional anthology and it was a
0:02:47funny little short story about how three
0:02:50of the original Star Trek actors are
0:02:51mistakenly beamed aboard the Enterprise
0:02:53through a transporter accident and have
0:02:55to bluff their way through an event on
0:02:58the ship and as I was watching galaxy
0:03:00quest i was like oh yeah I think I don't
0:03:03have seen this story before and that's
0:03:06actually a sequel to one where the real
0:03:09Star Trek characters windup in Hollywood
0:03:11so this is the same premise which is
0:03:13which is a it's totally it's totally
0:03:15real rather than it being like beam
0:03:18throughout to a parallel universe in
0:03:19this case there there are the the aliens
0:03:22the termites or is it Dalmatians
0:03:24whoo-hoo make the Thurman's whoo-hoo
0:03:28make a replica of the the star ship from
0:03:32a an eighties I guess TV show that is
0:03:36very much like Star Trek that stars Tim
0:03:38Allen and sigourney weaver not the
0:03:41actual actors they play less good actors
0:03:44i would say Alan Rickman Tony Shalhoub
0:03:46great cast in this and and that's the
0:03:51story so basically these actors are are
0:03:53forced to try and try and try to act
0:03:56like sci-fi movie heroes and then the
0:03:59fun begins
0:04:00I guess we should serve for a lot of
0:04:02these movies that have been around for a
0:04:03little while out i want to ask everybody
0:04:05if they have anything
0:04:06first off if anybody has an opening
0:04:07statement or some thoughts about galaxy
0:04:10question what it means to them now would
0:04:11be a time John syracuse was not on so
0:04:13that slots open somebody wants to step
0:04:15up have a brief statement
0:04:17ok Glen gives his brief statement i
0:04:19always think that tomorrow is a terrible
0:04:21actor and I never want to see me
0:04:22anything and then I see galaxy quest and
0:04:24there's a few other films that seemed
0:04:26really like things you would just it was
0:04:28at the santa claus i think that our he's
0:04:30so ridiculously charming in the right
0:04:32mode and i watch this again and think
0:04:35he i forget he can be good he carries
0:04:38off some really great scenes in it and
0:04:40that's almost like this movie is one of
0:04:42things that redeems Tim Allen for all
0:04:43the the terrible whole GC work is done
0:04:46because he can pull it off because he's
0:04:48sort of playing a version of himself in
0:04:49this sort of but there's a real
0:04:50emotional Center what answer and Buzz
0:04:53Lightyear and his love for you know I
0:04:54forget you ready soon forgotten that
0:04:56still not forget the amount i always
0:04:58think i'm a super cheesy and yet he has
0:05:00an emotional chord was acting
0:05:01yeah i think it's i think it's a really
0:05:03good performance I think it's a lot of
0:05:04fun i think he is he tries to find a
0:05:07place that is the full the full Shatner
0:05:11while remaining somebody that you want
0:05:16to root for like the right right that
0:05:17does shattered economy like oh well I
0:05:19hear William Shatner maybe was a little
0:05:21difficult to work with when they were
0:05:22doing the show and all that and yet the
0:05:23same time Captain Kirk you want to root
0:05:26for him because he's the hero and that
0:05:27that same dichotomy plays out with Tim
0:05:29Allen's character in this movie
0:05:31well I can't believe that this movie
0:05:32premiered in 1999 let's grab my gosh
0:05:34that is crazy
0:05:36yeah the 15-year old movie folks it's a
0:05:40christmas day of 1990 night
0:05:42no you're crazy so it is the movies
0:05:44begins and ends in a sci-fi convention
0:05:46and if you freeze frame you can see that
0:05:49there are in the first few rows there
0:05:50are people wearing various alien type
0:05:53costumes although I thought it was
0:05:55interesting that they're very much just
0:05:56Klingons in the bathroom
0:05:58they're always Klingons in the bathroom
0:06:00it's it's great because you just have
0:06:01that wall of identical people at the
0:06:04urinals but they're all Klingon yeah
0:06:06they mean think they could have made a
0:06:08galaxy quest alien or something but
0:06:10they're like now
0:06:11weekly we call some people are Klingons
0:06:14least they weren't stormtroopers so so
0:06:18the the cast of Galaxy Quest is waiting
0:06:20for Jason Nesmith Tim Allen to arrive
0:06:23he's late their attention builds all of
0:06:27their tensions from you get the sense
0:06:29that they if they were not just a big
0:06:31happy family as being there being
0:06:33described out in the convention hall and
0:06:37and they they all have something against
0:06:39Tim Allen he finally shows up and they
0:06:43go out onstage and of course Tim Allen
0:06:44drinks in all of the agitation of the
0:06:46crowd while they're all she
0:06:48King daggers at him also there's a very
0:06:50nice moment where they have to drag they
0:06:52have to drag is that Rickman is that
0:06:55here where Rickman yeah it's like he's
0:06:57had his panic attack you had me i'm
0:06:59usually takes off and they have to like
0:07:00put a coat over and dragged him back
0:07:02into the into the green room as he's as
0:07:05he's a being announced at the show must
0:07:08go on
0:07:08you have a shot that's ok couldn't call
0:07:13this home so good i mean if you would
0:07:16describe this movie to me as being well
0:07:18Alan Rickman plays a you know an English
0:07:22actor who is very serious actor and he
0:07:25thinks that this show is beneath him and
0:07:27he doesn't let anybody forget I think
0:07:29wow that's kind of a killjoy
0:07:30you know that's not a i i i don't know
0:07:33that doesn't sound that sounds really
0:07:34obvious and kind of like not not very
0:07:36funny and it is in reality quite funny
0:07:39and they don't they don't ever make it
0:07:41like you know I don't know didn't they
0:07:44for whatever reason I think this movie
0:07:46strikes up a pretty good balance between
0:07:49making fun of the source material and
0:07:50honoring the source material I never had
0:07:52any points felt like this movie made fun
0:07:55of me for liking star trek which is
0:07:59tough because you do laugh at all of the
0:08:01things that are silly about Star Trek
0:08:03when you when you watch this movie and
0:08:04yet i never felt bad about it or that it
0:08:06was it was talking down to me in some
0:08:08way and Alan Rickman's character would
0:08:10would be a place where that could happen
0:08:11and it doesn't happen i think right well
0:08:13because you empathize with them
0:08:15I mean you realize that he is a very
0:08:18good actor and and and he never becomes
0:08:22insufferable about it as asthma as hard
0:08:25as he plays it as as far as they go with
0:08:27it it never becomes too much to manage
0:08:30to pull him back and sort of give him a
0:08:33little humanity every every time it
0:08:34threatens to like what he's doing the
0:08:36the autograph signing and it's like yes
0:08:39I'm on his I'm improvising with him
0:08:42being bored out of his mind hearing the
0:08:43same thing over and over again instead
0:08:45of being the fan going oh let me do my
0:08:48thing for you
0:08:49I like the fact that I think this would
0:08:51be good junction much is that i really
0:08:54hate comedies that mug and in i think
0:08:56you know but Tim Sam Rockwell comes the
0:09:00closest to it is not monkeys
0:09:01sort of but it is character is it was
0:09:04over the top but this is played straight
0:09:06even the aliens are plates play it
0:09:08straight it's funny I mean this high-end
0:09:10for comic effect but everything is
0:09:12realistic within the structure of the
0:09:14film and everything is played completely
0:09:16straight which is amazing and that's why
0:09:20I think they later get into some really
0:09:21poignant and emotional moments because
0:09:23they haven't made it into a joke even
0:09:26though it's funny and even though some
0:09:27things are ridiculous but they're true
0:09:28and I think alan rickman is a great
0:09:31stabilizing part of that because this
0:09:33character is so earnest and then that
0:09:35earnestness becomes a true thing later
0:09:37when here is sort of ridiculous because
0:09:39he knows out-of-work actor or not for
0:09:41commercial actor areas i mean it's it's
0:09:44sort of a balance I think about what the
0:09:45radio script is being funny about it and
0:09:49having fun with these styles and troops
0:09:52and everything but also telling a
0:09:53satisfying story with relatively normal
0:09:56characters which is either it's a
0:10:00tightrope it's fun but it is a tightrope
0:10:02and as for you know not feeling like we
0:10:06are being made fun of as fans by the
0:10:08movie I don't think this movie would
0:10:10have succeeded if that was that was how
0:10:12it turned out because it's so clear that
0:10:15this film was made with love for the
0:10:17genre by people who you can't write a
0:10:20script that's going to know all of these
0:10:21little tiny ins and outs that well
0:10:23unless you're somebody who's experienced
0:10:25this and been watching these kinds of
0:10:26shows for a long time so I yeah I also
0:10:29never got the feeling that I was I was
0:10:31being you know looked down upon the
0:10:34filmmakers were not staring down their
0:10:35nose at me in any way and I think Alan
0:10:38Rickman's character also kind of fits
0:10:40into that because he just he is trying
0:10:42hard and there were a lot of people
0:10:45making those shows that did the best
0:10:47they could with what they had
0:10:49he just you know he's he's trying to be
0:10:51a good actor and he recognizes that that
0:10:54wasn't always a as possible is it
0:10:56sometimes is Scott the when you do
0:10:59Rentrak I you know a lot of times those
0:11:01episodes are detailing all the strange
0:11:04and improbable things that happen in the
0:11:06ridiculous things that happen
0:11:07and I know you've had a few people say
0:11:10you angry itunes reviewers like glad all
0:11:13they do is make fun of Star Trek was
0:11:14like it but it comes from a place of
0:11:16love write it like that's where it
0:11:18starts as I love this stuff and it's a
0:11:19lot of fun and then you take it apart
0:11:21but that's not you know you that you're
0:11:24not you're not trying to mock people for
0:11:28liking star trek because that's part of
0:11:29the premises that of course we like it
0:11:31but we commit we can laugh at some of
0:11:33its quibbles to it strange things right
0:11:37right why wouldn't i mean i wouldn't
0:11:40spend my time talking about a show I
0:11:41didn't like it so I mean that's the
0:11:45first thing some people do they make my
0:11:47monster would you be
0:11:49I know what's at and that's why I think
0:11:51that I mean it's not like we talked
0:11:52about Voyager anything
0:11:55well if it's you know even Voyager has
0:11:57appeals yes but i think that what what
0:12:01erica was saying I agree with completely
0:12:04and you can tell that the the makers of
0:12:06the movie like Star Trek and they are
0:12:09there and science fiction in general and
0:12:12fandom and they're celebrating it but
0:12:14pointing out that you know I think
0:12:15everyone who likes these kinds of shows
0:12:17realizes at a certain level that is
0:12:20ridiculous and that's part of its charm
0:12:22and there are several sequences in the
0:12:25movie that that bring that out you know
0:12:28particularly the the where they have to
0:12:29run through the the corridor with the
0:12:31clam jumper yes designer Cherie never
0:12:37wrote this episode should be dead but
0:12:40when you start looking at it was a
0:12:42little more critical of an eye you
0:12:43notice it's its faults but when you're
0:12:46just enjoying it
0:12:47it doesn't matter you let it sit and
0:12:49watch watch over you the one of the nice
0:12:51things about this is that the fit the
0:12:53the thing that makes the plot happen in
0:12:55galaxy quest is that there is an alien
0:12:57race that are fans of the show so the
0:13:00the Thurman's come from a position of
0:13:03fandom they appear at the at the
0:13:05convention as fans and in the historical
0:13:08document sure of the historical
0:13:10documents absolutely but their fans
0:13:11they're fans of the show
0:13:12yeah they come to the convention there
0:13:13dressed in the uniforms when they when
0:13:16they bring Jason Nesmith onboard the
0:13:19ship
0:13:20they he thinks it's a it's the group
0:13:23with justin long that's built their own
0:13:25little bridge in somebody's garage and
0:13:28he says wow that's pretty good better
0:13:30than the usual and so so fandom kind of
0:13:34drives the plot here in the sense that
0:13:36there that the alien race their fans to
0:13:39and they've they they they love it and
0:13:42and the actors are the ones who have to
0:13:44kind of understand the underlying
0:13:47fictional aspects of try to I guess it
0:13:49they don't break it to them gently in
0:13:51fact they eventually are forced to break
0:13:53it to them harshly that it's not a
0:13:54historical document but Phantom is at
0:13:56the heart of this movie because even
0:13:58Thurman's to make the plot happen or
0:13:59fans
0:14:00yeah and also not just any average fan
0:14:04these are sort of obsessive fans and the
0:14:07Thurman's and and Justin Long and
0:14:09friends and sort of their
0:14:11over-exuberance and attention to detail
0:14:15it is rewarded in a way which is kind of
0:14:19fun and satisfying other in real life a
0:14:22still still kind of probably don't need
0:14:24to know all that information about the
0:14:25utility players but you might get that
0:14:30call one day
0:14:31that's right where I where I say I said
0:14:33Joe it's all real no and they wait a
0:14:39second is going down what do i do I i
0:14:42really like that both justin long as
0:14:44group and I mean you can you can
0:14:45actually compare them just a long screw
0:14:47up with the Thurman's that that just as
0:14:49long as group two is a crew they'll have
0:14:52the uniforms they form you you get the
0:14:54sense that that group spends time in
0:14:57that garage that they've made the
0:14:59protector bridge in and you know it i
0:15:03like that it's not just like Justin
0:15:05longer for him and a couple other people
0:15:07it's like there's like five or six of
0:15:08them
0:15:09yeah at the at the convention and it's a
0:15:11lovely balance of you know here these
0:15:14two disparate groups who've come
0:15:16together to work as a team and that's
0:15:18what the main characters wind of
0:15:19learning is there not a team at the
0:15:21beginning they've only played it and
0:15:23they become that from the examples it's
0:15:25it's a lovely arc that was beautiful
0:15:28David thank you
0:15:30I don't think I realized until looking
0:15:32at the wikipedia page of
0:15:33comedians are from the clock too
0:15:35nebulous oh yeah me and I love the fact
0:15:38that their ship the prefix on the ship
0:15:40is nte which is supposedly stands for
0:15:43not the enterprise
0:15:44oh that's awesome yeah instead instead
0:15:46of ncc yeah uh-huh so it's not mine tres
0:15:51bien jokes anyway the fermions transport
0:15:54transport Jason Nesmith onto the
0:15:57protector he thinks that this is
0:16:00basically he's hungover he thinks that
0:16:02this is justin long skirt raj he
0:16:04basically says fire the red cannons fire
0:16:07the blue came inspire everything
0:16:09channeling a future eric bana in Star
0:16:11Trek basically fire everything and he's
0:16:14back home and i'll be and I'll just be
0:16:16on my way
0:16:17wasn't this but actually sort of
0:16:18shafting them because if this was really
0:16:20just as long as group he's given no
0:16:22effort he's drunk their soda and showed
0:16:25up at their bridge and barked a couple
0:16:27of things and then walks out wants to go
0:16:29home again but that goes badly 444 the
0:16:33thermals because he doesn't kill saris
0:16:35by just firing everything and and so
0:16:38they have to come back and get him
0:16:40shame i like the moment at the at the
0:16:43the desk by it's not a best buy but the
0:16:46the discount home electronics are we get
0:16:49we get the moment of their all reading
0:16:51their lines one by one leading up to
0:16:53that wonderful moment of by grabthar's
0:16:55hammer or the savings Gwen DeMarco cuts
0:16:59he has the giant oversized scissors to
0:17:01cut the ribbon and then they're doing
0:17:04the signing afterward and I really like
0:17:05that moment where where I Tim Allen runs
0:17:08up to them and says it's all real
0:17:10they were termites or Dalmatians and
0:17:12they are completely done with him
0:17:16they they are he didn't why do you even
0:17:18bother showing up do you know what time
0:17:19it is like there they are totally over
0:17:21him and he suddenly become one of those
0:17:23crazy fans who thinks that it's real
0:17:25yeah and i really like what Glenn says
0:17:28to him here where
0:17:29she says you know it's one thing to
0:17:30treat us this way to another to treat
0:17:32treat your fans like this because in the
0:17:36previous scene where they were signing
0:17:37stuff at the convention he was treating
0:17:39the fans very well up until that point
0:17:40where he overheard the Klingons and the
0:17:45guys who want to click on guys we
0:17:46hanging next to the Klingons the guys
0:17:48were too cool at the convention yeah and
0:17:50why are there i don't know i was one
0:17:53here to make fun of the nerds
0:17:55yeah i'm gonna make themselves feel
0:17:56better by putting down other people
0:17:58those are the saddest people at the
0:18:00conventions those are the bad people
0:18:02right and the movie knows that those
0:18:04those are the real Klingons a movie
0:18:06knows those people are bad people those
0:18:07are the true enemy in this movie there's
0:18:09saris but really have those two guys
0:18:10because those were the sea quest fan
0:18:12worse than Hitler yeah you're right
0:18:14you're right I she says you treat your
0:18:16fans this way and he's run into Justin
0:18:18Long and and there's that switch of the
0:18:21communicators which is important later
0:18:22and and then then Thurman's arrive again
0:18:26and and I I like that they're only way
0:18:30that Jason can get them to come back to
0:18:33the the clock to nebula is because they
0:18:37realize that although he's drunk and
0:18:39annoying there might be some money in it
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0:21:23uncomfortable
0:21:24we you know we glossed over one thing
0:21:26though as want to point out is on this
0:21:28film has really uneven special effects
0:21:30the cgi is kind of all over the place
0:21:32and some of the costume and prosthetic
0:21:34work is weird at times although like
0:21:37with like saris will get two verses the
0:21:40Thurman's are some of the octopus
0:21:43reveals and so forth but the bit where
0:21:45he goes forgotten how like well the
0:21:49whole film Rican sieves the star trek
0:21:52universe and all the troops were used to
0:21:54and I think a really interesting and
0:21:57wonderful way like I thought they could
0:21:59have just recycled things but everything
0:22:01is kind of different the transit
0:22:02teleportation thing is different and the
0:22:05fact that somebody came up with this
0:22:06idea oh he's gonna stand in a pad and
0:22:08cover him with goo and he's gonna
0:22:10actually personally fly through open
0:22:12space was fantastic i like that I've
0:22:16never seen anything quite like that
0:22:17before and I like that throughout they
0:22:20were always acting in response to so
0:22:22nothing was exactly what we expected i
0:22:25mean the bridge arrangement was very
0:22:26similar of course but but the actual
0:22:28technology and effects they kind of they
0:22:31purposely put us off and came up with
0:22:34some wonderful Rican sexual relations we
0:22:36should talk about the special effects a
0:22:37little bit if only there was somebody
0:22:39here who perhaps professionally works on
0:22:43motion pictures potential effects so Joe
0:22:47how do you think he's a special fat guy
0:22:50how do you how do you rate the the
0:22:53effects in galaxy quest and at well I
0:22:56island did them and this is that period
0:22:59where LM had fallen out of favor with
0:23:01paramount for whatever reason and the
0:23:05the star trek movie before this was Star
0:23:08Trek insurrection and it was done by
0:23:09santa barbara studios
0:23:11so if you want to talk about even
0:23:13special effects maybe look at that movie
0:23:15and the local movie star trek movie
0:23:19after this is nemesis just by digital
0:23:21domain and i would say that of those
0:23:24three movies with galaxy quest in the
0:23:27middle i would I think that the galaxy
0:23:29quest effects probably hold up better
0:23:31than some of like the over bloomed over
0:23:34stylized stuff in a digital domains work
0:23:39and in nemesis and hold up better than
0:23:42sort of the soft plasticky weirdness in
0:23:44instructor construction in there are of
0:23:48course technical things where the this
0:23:50is you know 1999 they weren't really
0:23:52great at making little people so they
0:23:55don't really have like skin that feels
0:23:58or looks like skin they're not quite as
0:24:01articulate as you might expect
0:24:03that the GU as Glenn was pointing out
0:24:05has little air bubbles in it and it
0:24:07doesn't really like slosh around the
0:24:09right way and totally have that space
0:24:12goo sloshes though
0:24:13yeah alright i have a canonical space on
0:24:16a regular good its canonical spacesuit
0:24:18yeah you ordered on amazon by the tank
0:24:21the yeah so it's it it's it's really
0:24:25good for its time I think especially if
0:24:27you look at it through the lens of the
0:24:30other surrounding Star Trek movies that
0:24:32were that were out it it's not as good
0:24:36as it would be of course those done
0:24:38today but but i really like it yeah i
0:24:42love the I love the octopus thing I I
0:24:46think those are really weird neat
0:24:49those are all practical Stan Winston
0:24:52stuff along with saris and his henchmen
0:24:56and I kind of serious i love the fact
0:24:57that he's so articulated and he has a
0:24:59weird parts of his body moving at all
0:25:01even I thought you looked great and i
0:25:03almost never notice special effect
0:25:06well it would put it fits in it it fits
0:25:07into it like its bet we're inside the
0:25:09joke outside the joke at the same time
0:25:10so that were both looking at it as if
0:25:14it's fake and real we're watching a
0:25:16movie so we know it's fake but but it
0:25:18has to be convincing in the film and so
0:25:20it seems to cut her it crosses that gap
0:25:23to which is cool
0:25:24also I noticed this time again the
0:25:26everytime i watch this movie i think i
0:25:28noticed that Sarah's has an English
0:25:29accent in the grand tradition of English
0:25:31actors who are unrecognizable in a suit
0:25:33and i always think that I really enjoy
0:25:36saris and and it's only at the end when
0:25:38I look at the credits that I realized
0:25:40that it's robin sachs who has been in a
0:25:42million things including Buffy and
0:25:45Babylon 5 and and he's great he's a
0:25:48minbari and babble i think it was
0:25:49multiple he was also an art and Babylon
0:25:515 Erica you nobody and I don't remember
0:25:53and he's and he's the he's a Charles's
0:25:57evil black magic friend in Buffy yes
0:26:00there and he's these saris in this but
0:26:04you know I think you can't even see him
0:26:06I don't think even the mouth is him
0:26:08moving his mouth I think that's all a
0:26:11prosthetic but it's great and he's named
0:26:14for film critic Anders serious
0:26:16so you gotta love
0:26:17a movie that names a villain for film
0:26:19critic boo
0:26:22uh-huh let's see what were where I so
0:26:26they when they when they when they beam
0:26:28back or groove travel whatever back to
0:26:32VA they left the channel open and all of
0:26:33that right they they end up marveling
0:26:37over where they are and it turns out not
0:26:39to be the ship it's the space station
0:26:40and that's important because one of the
0:26:43really funny jokes for me in this movie
0:26:45is they have the giant slowly loving
0:26:49starship reveal shot ii which is there
0:26:54are lots of movies to do this but Star
0:26:56Trek the motion picture is the most
0:26:57egregious at its loving pan over shot a
0:27:01starship and then the painfully slow
0:27:03scene where they take it out of
0:27:05Spacedock low-larious only because of
0:27:08this great being but as well yeah in the
0:27:11end that's the best in the end but that
0:27:14is the best joke about it but I'll i
0:27:15just love i laugh everytime i see those
0:27:17loving pans as them as the theme music
0:27:19comes up of the ship because come on
0:27:23oh yeah full chorus of voices going
0:27:26behind it it it since all their full
0:27:29blast we skip the one great scene where
0:27:32they land though with a GU takes from
0:27:34there and then the gibbering all of them
0:27:36jubrey airways and then and that the
0:27:39octopus creatures showing up and the
0:27:41whole thing it's his totally
0:27:43over-the-top and wonderful just shaking
0:27:46and then as Joey's putting guys scream
0:27:48at the screen and then Tony she was just
0:27:51really sweet moment yet oh my god I have
0:27:53so loud i was wearing headphones wife
0:27:55stopped me last night said what do you
0:27:57have not tried a reminder of that seems
0:27:59there's just always start laughing and
0:28:00laughing so perfect that was a hell of a
0:28:02thing what's wrong with them
0:28:05I love Tony Shalhoub industries I don't
0:28:09expect it I don't know who decided to
0:28:10say just play them really really stoned
0:28:12the whole way from and trying to keep
0:28:15eating it works
0:28:18yeah meeting oh my god that seems it's
0:28:20amazing it is amazing that was a hell of
0:28:23a thing
0:28:24yeah just amazing so I love that again
0:28:29to go to that
0:28:30that visit to a weird planet revisited
0:28:33kind of thing the idea that that this
0:28:35isn't a parallel universe is built on
0:28:37their TV show has that wonderful moment
0:28:39where Darrell chill Mitchell as Tommy is
0:28:43sitting in the in the Sulu chair
0:28:44basically and saying boy I'm glad I'm
0:28:47not the sucker who asked a sitting at
0:28:49command chair and Tim Allen turns to him
0:28:51and says take us out the radio and
0:28:53that's beautiful but it's also this idea
0:28:57of like a bit they based it on your hand
0:28:59movements and I've read interviews with
0:29:01like Star Trek people like especially on
0:29:02the next generation where they had a
0:29:04flat panels with the the cutout lights
0:29:06behind them so that literally there
0:29:07there was nothing that they would make
0:29:10up like what did what with their hand
0:29:12gestures just to be consistent like from
0:29:16not only from take to take and for
0:29:18continuity purposes but just I think for
0:29:19their own sanity like they would come up
0:29:21with a little game of like this is how i
0:29:22scanned for life-forms and so that made
0:29:24me laugh that they're like no no
0:29:25whatever you did that's what you need to
0:29:28do just do that that's that is a
0:29:31standard actor thing I mean active if
0:29:33especially if you're going to be doing a
0:29:34repetitive thing and end in a series but
0:29:38even even just in a play
0:29:40they they need the absolute consistency
0:29:42of what they're going to do so they know
0:29:44what they're doing you know maybe
0:29:45they're attaching it to the words
0:29:47they're saying or the actions that
0:29:48they're doing but especially when you've
0:29:50got something like this yes they they
0:29:52need to have that easy to remember
0:29:54repetitive thing and especially in like
0:29:57a science-fiction thing because people
0:29:59are gonna notice that but but that all
0:30:01that all goes into the the scenes in
0:30:03this movie we're at several points
0:30:05basically the actors are told
0:30:07just do what you did in the show because
0:30:09that's that's what we based it on so you
0:30:12just do that and and you know he doesn't
0:30:15laredo doesn't get it quite right and so
0:30:17we get that great after all of this
0:30:19Majesty he scrapes the side of the ship
0:30:22down the down the entire space and I'll
0:30:25i like how this the scraping of the ship
0:30:27is is every bit as long and extra
0:30:31uncomfortable as any of those loving
0:30:32pans were talking about your schooling
0:30:35and then
0:30:35go on and on it and the students are
0:30:38extruding 8i just cringe might like my
0:30:41head my ears just go closer and closer
0:30:43to my shoulders the longer the it's
0:30:47great in it there's also a a guy
0:30:49hovering over him like this sort of
0:30:52attempting to supervisors process
0:30:54yea it hit it like he has any real idea
0:30:58and it leaves a mark but you know he may
0:31:00actually have more ideas since he's been
0:31:02watching the show for me
0:31:04yeah i'm just-just about being on the
0:31:07show man happens around know they they
0:31:10go on their their tour donde of the the
0:31:12barracks and there's an infinite hallway
0:31:15that we never see again of all of the of
0:31:18the people by their saluting him very
0:31:21long very large ship lots of people on
0:31:23it want to let me go like throwing
0:31:24gasoline on a flame
0:31:28I like that they spent so much like I
0:31:30mean putting this whole trip together
0:31:31had to be in astronomical haha pun
0:31:33intended
0:31:34if astronomical cost but they also then
0:31:37shelled out for every single crewmember
0:31:39to have one of the little you know
0:31:41cloaking things so that they could look
0:31:42like a human and fit in on the shit even
0:31:44though they're all like octopi creatures
0:31:46well that's how they match the
0:31:48historical documents accuracy is
0:31:49important so there's another there's
0:31:52another confrontation with saris and
0:31:55this is as somebody who loves Star Trek
0:31:57to this is a star trek to moment gone
0:32:00horribly wrong
0:32:01where there's the the confrontation
0:32:03across the finish two ships across the
0:32:05View screens and Kim Alan gives the cut
0:32:09you know museum gesture and then said
0:32:13since you know he's super busy as ugly
0:32:15and all those things all the while a is
0:32:18going we were trying to get his
0:32:19attention to point out that he can still
0:32:21hear him thats that's a beautiful thing
0:32:24because you know you just assume when
0:32:26you do the thing like Captain Kirk does
0:32:27the thing and it's done right you you
0:32:30guys on mute now it was funny but it was
0:32:32a little bit annoying because she just
0:32:34kept saying his name instead of saying
0:32:36you know she could've just let your
0:32:37woman that
0:32:38yeah exactly well I mean it was one of
0:32:40those things were the first time she
0:32:41said they were just like I know exactly
0:32:43where this is going but I not to not to
0:32:48derail this moment but they're there is
0:32:51of course the important realization when
0:32:53they are eating and they see the tape of
0:32:56the previously here being tortured
0:32:57yes and they realize that this isn't the
0:32:59fun tour that they thought they were
0:33:00going on and they all freak out and want
0:33:03to leave at that point that this wasn't
0:33:05going to be what it was gonna crack up
0:33:08there they all want to leave but saris
0:33:09is already in range and they can't
0:33:11escape they would be destroyed by saris
0:33:13if they were in their little group odds
0:33:17mhm also that that's got a great moment
0:33:19where where Alan Rickman is told that
0:33:24they have synthesized his favorite meals
0:33:26from his home planet blood takes blood
0:33:31tix I want the ones that jumped out and
0:33:35pops back down in here I don't think he
0:33:38was that hungry because it and that
0:33:41that's actually that that scene set up
0:33:43really well where you think that what
0:33:45you're going to get is the Tim Allen's
0:33:47going to be grossed out by the fact that
0:33:48this steak that he's eating is not
0:33:49actually a stake by the synthetic steak
0:33:51but he's like nope it's great and it's
0:33:54NT pan down and it's alan rickman who's
0:33:56got alien bugs in a in a in a wine glass
0:33:59and worms sorry bugs and worms Scott
0:34:02this a star trek call out this reminds
0:34:04me of that conspiracy episode
0:34:06no yes where everyone's eating a world
0:34:09terms that's right of goblets and you
0:34:12get that moment like to i eat the bugs
0:34:14and the worms to prove that i'm who i'm
0:34:17not actually or do I just drop them and
0:34:20fire somebody with a phaser which is
0:34:21what Riker does cuz he's that was a man
0:34:23of action
0:34:24yes that's what two melons character
0:34:26would do let's see what else so so mine
0:34:30fields are we up to the mine field now i
0:34:32think is the turbo button a conflict
0:34:35first but but then minefield immediately
0:34:38following are the minefield i like
0:34:40because that's it that's actually a
0:34:41george lucas feel more than you know
0:34:44that star wars movies it's always like
0:34:46you know space is vast and there are not
0:34:48like feel asteroid fields don't have
0:34:50just like rocks everywhere that you have
0:34:52to dart around that's not how it works
0:34:54and the the minefield feels like that
0:34:56were now we've got our little millennium
0:34:57fawlcon kind of chase scene where we're
0:34:59saris ship is like Darth Vader in Empire
0:35:03Strikes Back saying no we don't have to
0:35:04go in there just yet and you know send
0:35:07somebody in to find them and they're
0:35:08dodging the mines and competently
0:35:10because they don't they're actors and
0:35:14don't have a stewardship and one of the
0:35:17other things I also liked about the my
0:35:18field is it's not really clear with this
0:35:19minefield is actually guarding but i
0:35:22don't think this is really spaced it go
0:35:26it's like a barrel it's a red it's a
0:35:27rectangle a three-dimensional rectangle
0:35:29a shape of months just like you know
0:35:31like it's like a cleanse me of an
0:35:34enterprise episode
0:35:36yeah Oh block and cheese that you would
0:35:39get at costco it's a block of cheese
0:35:40shaped minefield why maybe there's
0:35:44something really cool with the center of
0:35:45it like a block of cheese sniper could
0:35:47be could be some fine aged cheddar or
0:35:52some manchego sure there's a sheep
0:35:54there's a sheep giving milk and then the
0:35:56replicator turns it into I don't know
0:35:58the they have damaged by the minefield
0:36:02this beryllium sphere is his fractured
0:36:05this is their dilithium crystal
0:36:06equivalent the beryllium sphere another
0:36:09thing like I know it's not dilithium
0:36:10crystals but they they created a neat
0:36:12effect for it so it actually stands on
0:36:14its own it's completely inexplicable I'd
0:36:16i love that I mean this forgets that
0:36:18reverse engineering thing which is so
0:36:19geeky the reverse engineer everything
0:36:21about the show and they made things that
0:36:22were impossible real because they didn't
0:36:24know any better
0:36:25including this floating beryllium sphere
0:36:26that apparently lets them do this crazy
0:36:29space travel stuff
0:36:30berlian like lithium is a real element
0:36:34turned into something totally ridiculous
0:36:37and fictional so the beryllium sphere is
0:36:41fractured so now we get to have our away
0:36:43mission because the star trek episode
0:36:45would not be complete without a mission
0:36:47to a planet surface they have the scene
0:36:51in the computer room this is the one
0:36:52that i mentioned earlier where we're
0:36:54Sigourney Weaver repeats everything that
0:36:56is said by everybody to and from the
0:36:57computer and that goes on a long time to
0:37:01and yet it's very funny that it's just
0:37:02she
0:37:03look I have one job on this lousy ship
0:37:05it's stupid but I'm going to do it
0:37:06that's great that's a great line and
0:37:08this is also the moment where we
0:37:09discover that for the Thurman's there is
0:37:13no greater tragedy in all of the world
0:37:15than the story of Gilligan's Island he
0:37:18was poor people poor people i also liked
0:37:25the presentation of somebody any of the
0:37:27chatroom said that remember mentioned
0:37:28Enrico Colantoni cool that's cool into
0:37:30Colantoni during comic-con according to
0:37:34google and it hurts in four reboot glen
0:37:37and remodeling tony is in this as masses
0:37:40are and he's great and you may know him
0:37:42although he's hard to recognize as a
0:37:45Veronica Mars is dad that's how I have
0:37:47come to know where that guy from just
0:37:49shoot me Enrique and that's right yeah
0:37:51he's well-known TV at always gonna be
0:37:53Keith Mars to me but it's a purpose of
0:37:55the the interpretation comes up with a
0:37:57true or are only oh it's just that
0:38:00hollowness it's perfectly consistent and
0:38:03he's the one who has been talking like
0:38:04that for a week now
0:38:06thanks guys thanks for making me want to
0:38:09move to Canada you pay the price
0:38:11really for people whose poor people it's
0:38:16a but it's it's great it's a great stick
0:38:18because it doesn't it's not so annoying
0:38:20that wears thin and then he and the
0:38:22other actors bring out the pathos of
0:38:24them doing this you know shadow of a
0:38:27shadow thing that they're sincere about
0:38:29it funny how it's like this ridiculous
0:38:31thing and then it becomes sadder and
0:38:32sadder as the movie comes out goes on as
0:38:35they reveal more of the horrible truth
0:38:37in small parts a rain Wilson is one of
0:38:40the Thurman's from the office and and
0:38:44Patrick brain is quick who is a that's a
0:38:47very good character who's got a couple
0:38:48very good scenes I should know to the
0:38:50Spacedock seen it comes back I didn't
0:38:52realize this until watching the film the
0:38:53second time a long time ago is the
0:38:55destroyed planet is all around the
0:38:57Spacedock you don't realize until i talk
0:38:58about it later that the space doctors in
0:39:01the middle of nowhere and they sort of
0:39:02give you one shot where you see like
0:39:03bits of stuff floating around and that's
0:39:06where they're from that's their
0:39:07homeworld for me as but you have blown
0:39:10to bits
0:39:11I'm not sure how it exploded quite like
0:39:13that to have just a little mushroom
0:39:15shape left to the planet
0:39:17let's get this force field at yeah sure
0:39:21that's true
0:39:22like they click on energy moon praxis
0:39:23hmm that's very good i was gonna say
0:39:25Scott Scott emerges from the bushes
0:39:29drops car Star Trek reference
0:39:31thank you Kono's back into the bushes
0:39:34okay so so they go down to the planet
0:39:37shuttlecraft essentially and I and that
0:39:41leads to a bunch of great scenes
0:39:44including the demand that they test for
0:39:46oxygen and Tony Shalhoub just does some
0:39:49sniffing and determines seems fine to me
0:39:53because at this is sam rockwell that is
0:39:56most freaked out that he's gonna die and
0:39:58he's going to be a Richard because he
0:39:59died he was killed by lava monster
0:40:00episode 81 so you think that's gonna
0:40:02happen again
0:40:03yeah and I love a while well he's
0:40:06sniffing about Sam Rockwell is this
0:40:08holding its breath
0:40:09yeah look that's gonna do anything at
0:40:11all and they see they so they go again
0:40:15one to another wonderful Star Trek thing
0:40:17reminded me of actually i think where no
0:40:20man has gone before
0:40:22Scott but numerous Star Trek episodes
0:40:25where there's the big matte painting so
0:40:27they come over the the hill of this
0:40:29rocky area that looks like you know
0:40:31basically Vasquez rocks and you know
0:40:33across with Arizona and there's a
0:40:36wonderful like matte painting of a
0:40:38mining colony right out of Star Trek
0:40:41episode and and somebody actually says
0:40:45looks like some sort of mining colony
0:40:47which is just played perfectly straight
0:40:49and like come on you an expert in
0:40:52planetary mining colony
0:40:54that's right automated mining colony
0:40:56well is it it looks like a matte
0:40:58painting from their show but it does so
0:41:02they see little there there little um
0:41:04their little monsters their little
0:41:05aliens there i guess they're not
0:41:07monsters yet we don't know that they're
0:41:08monsters
0:41:09that's racist and this is this is a
0:41:10place where where the
0:41:14that guy's knowledge of the show comes
0:41:16in handy because he at one point
0:41:17declares exactly what's going to happen
0:41:19a couple of minutes before it does was
0:41:21like there's gonna be more of them
0:41:22returned mean this is another scene that
0:41:26really bothers me actually this is the
0:41:28one seen the movie i think that bothers
0:41:29me the most because you have Sigourney
0:41:31Weaver's character suddenly being
0:41:33completely stupid and wanting to like
0:41:35run out there just because they happen
0:41:36to be cute little not only here to like
0:41:39I have more to say about her park or
0:41:41lack thereof once we get to the end but
0:41:43this was this was the moment where I
0:41:44kind of turned on the movie for a moment
0:41:46and was like how dare you
0:41:48she's been acting really dumb here let
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0:42:58ok back to galaxy quest so so they they
0:43:01the little blue alien guys eat their
0:43:05crippled friend the carom limb from limb
0:43:09as you do and there's a there's a panic
0:43:12and everybody wants to run but they got
0:43:14to get the brilliant spear so in the end
0:43:17they Jason Nesmith this is his moment to
0:43:19shine right he he he starts barking
0:43:22orders and it's very impressive until
0:43:24somebody points out that those are all
0:43:26the orders from that app
0:43:27so'd where sam rockwell got killed and
0:43:31there's a very nice moment where is it
0:43:33is it Lorraine know that the tries to
0:43:37lie and say it was a different episode
0:43:38her don't know
0:43:4061 o yea 61 right just to shut up since
0:43:44I this leads to rock monster rock
0:43:50lobster sandwiches and a big lizard and
0:43:54always an appetizer transporting it is
0:43:57so there's turns inside millions there's
0:43:59a Rock Monster in this pic lizard so
0:44:01that there's no changing rock rock will
0:44:03translate it rock rock rock rock no I
0:44:05like the translating is the last thing
0:44:07that they thought to do you have any
0:44:10other types i don't care about the the
0:44:12Rock Monster this is where the deleted
0:44:14scene is actually useful
0:44:15there's a call forward but you so you
0:44:18know Kim the two main characters getting
0:44:20adjacent getting a beating up there and
0:44:23he speak dragged around he loses the
0:44:25shirt of course and you know what's is
0:44:28what's his colleague back in the ship
0:44:29talking about it's like you don't
0:44:30respect the art you to get inside his
0:44:32head
0:44:33well the deleted scene is actually Alan
0:44:35Rickman going on i put a link in the
0:44:37chat room i found a russian version of
0:44:40it in tight subtitles where the
0:44:41subtitles translate back to english and
0:44:43it's hilarious but it's a extended scene
0:44:45where it goes on too long without and
0:44:47that's why they call it is alan rickman
0:44:49is trying to do the method acting like
0:44:50what is the Rock Monster want silence
0:44:52all this noise at once silence and
0:44:54there's a call is a payoff much later
0:44:56that doesn't make sense in the actual
0:44:57movie its kind of thrown away for that
0:44:59deleted scene I window when the rock
0:45:01monster gets ejected into space yeah and
0:45:03all of a sudden in the I think there's
0:45:05actually a slightly different version
0:45:06that's in the deleted scene as well
0:45:08the one the movie is abrupt the rock
0:45:10monster goes hey relax is when it's in
0:45:12the silence of space if it's a beautiful
0:45:15day off that you know doesn't matter
0:45:17there's a little bit of a scene in the
0:45:18original but it's actually worth seeing
0:45:20the deleted scene just for that little
0:45:21little payoff but I
0:45:23yeah but it's a wonderful amazing it's a
0:45:25beautiful thing that he winds up with
0:45:26his shirt off and with like nice bloody
0:45:30marks that of course don't seem to cause
0:45:31many problems at all aren't still
0:45:33bleeding but it's the very very captain
0:45:34cookie it's so Shatner shirts and then
0:45:37they say it when he gets beamed up later
0:45:40is you know of course just shoot lose
0:45:42your shirt there by like this is a
0:45:45reference to
0:45:46I think mostly to the enemy within where
0:45:50they the the transporter hasn't been
0:45:52tested and again it's based on context
0:45:56sergeant changs hand movement since this
0:45:59is a moment where Tony Shalhoub loses it
0:46:01is freaked out and doesn't want to do
0:46:02this because they try to beam up the
0:46:04lizard and it turns inside out and
0:46:06explodes as up one of those wasn't bad
0:46:09enough it does both
0:46:11I love the comic timing of it too and
0:46:13because it you get that nice shot of it
0:46:16inside out well I say nice quotes of it
0:46:20inside out and everybody reacts to that
0:46:22and then it explodes and you get all the
0:46:24bits like flying everywhere and it's
0:46:26sticking to some surfaces and sigourney
0:46:28weaver slowly gets up and she's like
0:46:29hold please and like that little blob of
0:46:32pink stuff falls out of the end of the
0:46:33communicator when she put it opened its
0:46:36it's quite nice but i also like in the
0:46:38later in the scene 1 thermi insist still
0:46:41covered with the everyone else sort of
0:46:42cleared off his face is discovered with
0:46:45with ha gu agadir yeah yeah well and
0:46:48when they do put beam up by Tim Allen
0:46:50you know he's he's into it being into
0:46:52that chamber and behind him is just like
0:46:54us
0:46:54it's just a splatter of horrible things
0:46:57abattoir yeah yeah so I like that
0:47:01because it is you know like that classic
0:47:04Star Trek episode the transporters are
0:47:05working right they're afraid to to be
0:47:08anybody up and and but they end up
0:47:11having to do it because he's the
0:47:12shirtless Tim Allen's going to get
0:47:13crushed by the Rock Monster little
0:47:15course this time it all works fine and
0:47:18he's saved you also get the arena
0:47:20reference to with the try to construct
0:47:23something to get yourself it's someone
0:47:25in the chat rooms put it it's can you
0:47:27try drugs
0:47:28look around you can view it is ready for
0:47:30some server mini lathe yeah that's it
0:47:33that's the most quantity
0:47:35mount kool i found the answer
0:47:38yeah so that means they're loving detail
0:47:40that won't you know stead that I think
0:47:43Scott mentioned that this is these are
0:47:45people who who know their star trek and
0:47:47know that it's funny but like I mean
0:47:50I'll defend that arena episode even
0:47:53though the Gorn is the slowest monster
0:47:56ever its menacing it's like it's
0:47:58relentless it's like magic it makes
0:48:01Godzilla look like a gymnast maybe but i
0:48:07love it so I they now they're back on
0:48:10the ship everything is great right now
0:48:11except that sarah has taken over the
0:48:14ship plot twists and and so this leads
0:48:19to the moment where they have to break
0:48:20the news to two masses are that the
0:48:23historical documents are not in fact
0:48:26historical documents and i really like
0:48:28the I like saris in the scene and i
0:48:32especially liked his line explained as
0:48:35you would a child you know he is he is
0:48:38so dripping with contempt for the
0:48:41Thurman's and he is really enjoying the
0:48:43fact that now that he's figured it out
0:48:46that these people are are just these
0:48:48actors and that the Thurman's you know
0:48:51any danger any damage that that Sarah's
0:48:54can inflict on them doesn't match up to
0:48:56the emotional damage that he can make
0:48:58the humans inflicted on them by
0:49:00revealing that they're not historical
0:49:02documents it's really nice scene and
0:49:04creepy and and in the middle of a wacky
0:49:07movie it's a it's a very tough and sad
0:49:12scene because you don't let these guys
0:49:13down there friendly octopus people but
0:49:15actually this is I think one of my
0:49:17favorite scenes in the movie for that
0:49:18reason because it's just it's so it
0:49:22works at this point masses are is I mean
0:49:25I ice have started to really feel for
0:49:27him in to see him as a child I think
0:49:29that line from serious you're right is
0:49:30perfect because I just you want to
0:49:32protect him he's so sweet and earnest
0:49:35and genuine about everything and the
0:49:37fact that Sarah's so cruel and making
0:49:40them actually explain it
0:49:41yeah there really isn't anything works
0:49:43that he could do at that point that is
0:49:44that is a real villain
0:49:46I really want to see the theater on
0:49:49services world because he was familiar
0:49:50with actors and I was really curious
0:49:51what performance would be like since I
0:49:54was a cut that's what if there's one of
0:49:56their television shows like it's mostly
0:49:58just sitcoms it comes and david mamet
0:50:00work workplace that slips most that's
0:50:03how he turns the wheel
0:50:04yeah blood tix are for closers you have
0:50:07an experienced Shakespeare until you've
0:50:08heard it in the original Syrian yeah I i
0:50:12want to bring up just gonna go back just
0:50:14a tiny bit which is this movie has a
0:50:16unique property i think it you know i
0:50:18like the film very much but it also has
0:50:21some interesting dramatic properties
0:50:23that you don't see everywhere which is
0:50:24they have different arc speak at
0:50:26different times in they've given a lot
0:50:28of time to the development of many
0:50:29different characters it's very hard to
0:50:31do in a movie you see it more another
0:50:32you know TV shows over time or something
0:50:34and Tony Shalhoub character gets his
0:50:36moment he gets his little paw theosis
0:50:38thing when he beams up he looks at missi
0:50:40pyle he falls in love they have their
0:50:42their moment and then they have the
0:50:43terrible that all thats just that right
0:50:45see you later but he gets his apotheosis
0:50:47before the film peaks so he's found his
0:50:50confidence in that sort of carries him
0:50:52along into scenes that are that are
0:50:54coming up even as other people are
0:50:55finding you know their particular life
0:50:58journey is hitting the pop art of the
0:51:00film where they need to achieve their
0:51:01confidence i think that's kind of a it's
0:51:03not unusual but it was certainly a nice
0:51:05element in it that you had all the
0:51:06strands coming together different points
0:51:08of everyone going well he's found his
0:51:10heart he's found his soul he sound is a
0:51:12you know missing wallet
0:51:14well this is the challenge with a movie
0:51:16like this is that you don't have a
0:51:17shorthand that Star Trek has where
0:51:19you've seen these characters a million
0:51:20times and so they have to use some Star
0:51:23Trek shorthand and then they did they do
0:51:25like a star trek movie they've also got
0:51:26to give them all a little moment to
0:51:28shine in a little and a little bit of an
0:51:30arc and and they do a good job in most
0:51:34cases
0:51:35okay yeah this is this track so i think
0:51:38that was so obvious that i don't even
0:51:39think about it but you know how in some
0:51:41of the Star Trek movies like wait what
0:51:43did what did Sulu do in this matter what
0:51:45did who are doing this movie and you
0:51:47think back in like nothing is real
0:51:51desert just started the band
0:51:56and yeah not for the fan not good not
0:52:00good
0:52:01so anyway there's an escape the saris
0:52:03doesn't put them to death although he
0:52:04wants to shut out into space
0:52:06there's an escape and justice Justin
0:52:09Long gets called into action he gets the
0:52:11call that every fan is always dreamed of
0:52:13the captain of the ship is in trouble
0:52:14and he needs your help and this is a
0:52:18that it's all real
0:52:20oh my god i do it this is every yes
0:52:24every fan that I'm not a complete
0:52:25braincase ok that was a nice line i like
0:52:28um yeah it's nice because he refutes
0:52:30initially gave every everything is like
0:52:33I everything you know I'm totally normal
0:52:36and then of course that's not true
0:52:40now let me get the boys on the line here
0:52:42we made a 3d model of this but you know
0:52:44I know I got an expert for every area of
0:52:46the questions that you're asking like
0:52:47that too that it's not he's not he again
0:52:50he's the captain of his crew so he's got
0:52:52his experts in various ways that you can
0:52:54deploy them the only expert he doesn't
0:52:57have somebody to take out the garbage
0:52:59I think maybe maybe my favorite line
0:53:01tied to his his storyline is is near the
0:53:04end where he's rushing out with all the
0:53:06fireworks and he explains why
0:53:09and finally goes out and and his parents
0:53:12look at each other well at least he's
0:53:13going outside
0:53:14yeah I also like this there's a scene
0:53:17right around here where Sigourney Weaver
0:53:19Earl Weaver had watch this twice i had a
0:53:21stopped because i'm watching her lips
0:53:23move and that is not what she says oh
0:53:26yeah I really loud and g let the f-bomb
0:53:29know this is going to be an r-rated
0:53:31movie and then they just decided it was
0:53:32going to be a PG movie instead she said
0:53:34they're going to be sex scenes which I
0:53:35don't know where those were going to
0:53:36wind up in there but she's being funny
0:53:38when she did that interview a few years
0:53:39ago but yes that was an f-bomb badly
0:53:42over didn't did not reach shoot that
0:53:44you're doing in America didn't have any
0:53:46coverage for it and it's the worst ATR
0:53:48yeah you never see no it'sit's a you
0:53:51became mr. Falcon kind of moment haha
0:53:54but yeah I mean they must have been that
0:53:56they must have realized that they that
0:53:59they could market it as a PG and they
0:54:01and just you know take out or loop
0:54:03the-the-the some of the dialogue and so
0:54:06they did and that one yeah suffers that
0:54:09say you can look at it as a no Maj to
0:54:11all of the times that you know classic
0:54:13pulpy sci-fi shows didn't have coverage
0:54:15and had to do the same thing Bennett
0:54:17that ad or sure I ok there's a nice
0:54:23scene where where they save the
0:54:27Thurman's who are being killed the there
0:54:30they're being deprived of oxygen and and
0:54:33they're going to they're going to die
0:54:34and there and they're saved and this is
0:54:37sort of a moment for Alexander deign to
0:54:40shine
0:54:41Alan Alan Rickman but but but sadly
0:54:45quick the Thurman dies killed by a shot
0:54:50in the back right by a by one of
0:54:52services guys
0:54:53yeah yeah yeahs comes from outside in
0:54:55the hallway and then that guy's that
0:54:58henchman is gonna immediately jams and
0:55:00just keeps hitting it for like five
0:55:01minutes our clinic is dying
0:55:02yeah well that's what henchmen he
0:55:04probably thrown through it Adam and then
0:55:05ran away because when Hegeman do it
0:55:07that's the that's I think the single
0:55:09sweetest moment in the movie and I i
0:55:13will digraphs as you know what I wanted
0:55:14when I was a kid highschool did a lot of
0:55:17acting and once we have this followed
0:55:19graduated high school show up and he's a
0:55:21lot of Shakespeare he wasn't like a
0:55:23professional did a lot of theater since
0:55:25he graduated he's talking about Hamlet
0:55:27he's talking talking and then he stops
0:55:29and he actually does a very small bit of
0:55:30it and the entire universe changed and
0:55:33that was the moment I understood what
0:55:34acting is different from what we were
0:55:36doing and in the movie i had that same
0:55:38reaction that alan rickman time stops
0:55:41and suddenly he is completely there that
0:55:44performer doing a performer's roll doing
0:55:47a performer's role and he sells it that
0:55:50my grandfather's hamon just like oh my
0:55:52god it's all its it is so real in the
0:55:55middle of this crazy sci-fi movie that
0:55:57he can pull it off it's incredible i
0:55:59think that's the emotional part of this
0:56:01movie is the scene and it's the fact
0:56:03that that Alexander Dane you know he
0:56:07accepts that what accept 40 he doesn't
0:56:11earlier in the movie which is that that
0:56:13this character is important to people
0:56:16and the doctor Lazarus matters and and
0:56:18this is like you know Leonard Nimoy
0:56:20accepting the fact
0:56:22that even though he could say I'm not
0:56:24Spock like he did in the seventies that
0:56:26spot was important and the Vulcan
0:56:28philosophy was important to people and I
0:56:30you know internet diversity in infinite
0:56:32combinations and all and all that live
0:56:34long and prosper all that mattered to
0:56:36people and whether it started as a show
0:56:39and it started as an acting job there
0:56:42there's some level of responsibility
0:56:43because the these people take it
0:56:45seriously whether or not you believe it
0:56:47they take it seriously and so for alan
0:56:49rickman in that moment to realize that
0:56:52the right thing to say to this true
0:56:54believer and a and the right thing he
0:56:56wanted to say that moment was this thing
0:56:58that he's hated all this time and
0:57:00suddenly it means something it's a
0:57:01really big it is a beautiful moment
0:57:03yeah yeah and it also means something
0:57:06especially with quick because the whole
0:57:08entire time we've had quick in this
0:57:10movie
0:57:11yeah has been with secret in seen
0:57:13specifically with Alexander Dane and
0:57:17it's always been about the deep respect
0:57:20that quick has for this thing that a
0:57:23alexandria has no respect at all for and
0:57:28it you know he from the moment he's
0:57:31introduced until his death even says
0:57:34that he feels like he is a father figure
0:57:36to him and it's it's really nice and it
0:57:40shows one way that I sort of a
0:57:43television performance can inspire
0:57:45someone even even though it you know
0:57:48it's not real but it hits its it's just
0:57:52very nice and very touching
0:57:53yeah it's a great moment I need of the
0:57:57whole thing is the full you know by
0:57:59grabthar's hammer by the sons of war van
0:58:01whatever you shall be avenged
0:58:04I'm gonna go grab some Kleenex watching
0:58:06and i watched it again and grab some
0:58:07more just you two lovely little bit yeah
0:58:09that's really great
0:58:11justin long as taking out the the trash
0:58:14and recycling I can i mention this in
0:58:17our war games episode this feels to me
0:58:19to be a direct reference to war games
0:58:21because the world almost ends because
0:58:24Matthew Broderick has to take out the
0:58:25trash like the same seen em the exact
0:58:28same scene but it's great
0:58:30the this is this is also in in this
0:58:33moment this is where we get
0:58:35to Milan Sigourney Weaver running
0:58:36through as we mentioned earlier the the
0:58:38the the bowels of the ship which are
0:58:41ridiculous just a series of ridiculous
0:58:43things one after another like this is
0:58:46you know but the including again sigh
0:58:49fine general star wars i think in
0:58:51particular but a lot of a lot of genre
0:58:54movies where there are places no
0:58:56handrails mysterious things that you
0:58:59know doctor who did this
0:59:01six years later they had that episode
0:59:04Erica the end the end of the world where
0:59:07there where there are chompers that the
0:59:09doctor has to walk through and I'm like
0:59:10really did they not see galaxy quest
0:59:13maybe they did see galaxy quest and he
0:59:15does like Time Lord trance to walk
0:59:17through the chompers but it's that you
0:59:19know so they got the choppers and the
0:59:21any Omega 13 which I I am amused that
0:59:23the unknowable thing that nobody knows
0:59:25about not even the writer and even the
0:59:27people who constructed this ship the
0:59:29fermions don't know what it is but they
0:59:30know enough to make it
0:59:32yeah wonderful can see if because you
0:59:35know what they don't do in this film is
0:59:37they don't come back and explain things
0:59:38at you they're like we built this thing
0:59:40we don't know it doesn't no one knows
0:59:41what it does and it does this wonderful
0:59:44perfect thing and they're like oh well
0:59:45the reason it did that like no it just
0:59:47did that
0:59:48that's what this yeah well there is a
0:59:50when he's talking to justin long about
0:59:52it and yeah just like oh I envy the
0:59:55video you have and stuff like that look
0:59:57up and he
0:59:57up and he
1:00:00to specifically that the fans have
1:00:03theories about this and one of them
1:00:05happens to be of course the theory that
1:00:07it resets everything for x 13 seconds
1:00:11II i don't know how they formulated that
1:00:14but that was the little bit of
1:00:15exposition that helps explain things
1:00:17much later on the actual design of the
1:00:20Omega 13 is a very interesting and weird
1:00:23looking and I I don't know how the
1:00:24fermions managed to produce that based
1:00:27on whatever the eighties version of that
1:00:29looks like it is it's really neat and at
1:00:33one of the things that a redhead I think
1:00:36it's think is kind of a little bit of a
1:00:38plot misstep here is that the whole
1:00:40thing with serious wanted to have the
1:00:42Omega 13 but he's just going to blow up
1:00:43the whole ship with you maybe 13 on it
1:00:45and he didn't get it out of the ship
1:00:48which is a little strange
1:00:50well he can't have it no one will have
1:00:52it yeah and all these guys look like on
1:00:54always cuz it's all guys are on it but
1:00:57he doesn't care he's going to fire all
1:00:59the things at them while they run with
1:01:01the self-destruct 2i the consistency
1:01:04though is that services found out
1:01:05they're actors and he's like all the
1:01:07omega-3 13 is garbage it's a fake know
1:01:10that maybe everything else the ship is
1:01:12ridiculous and so on one of the things
1:01:14that is less obvious i think but when
1:01:17you watch the movie a few times you know
1:01:19you they don't overstate this but
1:01:21clearly this is a show that ended on a
1:01:23cliffhanger that was never resolved the
1:01:24Omega 13 is the cliffhanger item that
1:01:27the MacGuffin or whatever they they
1:01:29Omega 13 being released as the last
1:01:32scene of the last episode and it's never
1:01:34resolved and you they show that clip of
1:01:37him releasing it and and guy says you're
1:01:41the last year the first people to see
1:01:42this since it aired in 1982 so
1:01:45presumably there's a story there about
1:01:47how they never put that episode in
1:01:48syndication because it ends on a
1:01:49cliffhanger that's never resolved and
1:01:51they just cycled back to the beginning
1:01:52and I thought I thought that was AI
1:01:55thought that was a doctor who just
1:01:56because he's talking about how he had
1:01:57been recovered I thought it was a
1:01:58missing episode like all of missing
1:02:00episodes
1:02:01no I think I think this is what it is
1:02:03though is is that it was supposed to be
1:02:05the season cliffhanger and they got
1:02:06canceled and so now they just don't show
1:02:08that episode because there's no
1:02:10resolution to it and that was the and
1:02:11that's why the fans have the theories of
1:02:13what the Omega 13 does because to be
1:02:16continued it was never continued it's
1:02:18just a nice i mean they could have gone
1:02:20over that with a you-know-what the
1:02:21highlighter and they don't it's just
1:02:23under the surface there that this is the
1:02:25this is so in some ways what this movie
1:02:27does is actually resolves the big
1:02:30cliffhanger at the end of the make TV
1:02:32stuff they do i think the river ice
1:02:34travel again it is so beautifully
1:02:36because you know in a syndication cycle
1:02:39you know what happens at the the last
1:02:41episode you go right back to the first
1:02:42episode so whatever that cliffhanger was
1:02:45to whoever was watching an outer space
1:02:48it just says everything backwards right
1:02:50to the beginning again
1:02:51Oh David you just blew my mind before
1:02:57before they trigger the Omega 13 this is
1:03:00the other deleted scene continuity
1:03:02issues so when when you see her in one
1:03:04scene and she's her costumes falling
1:03:06apart and then next senior senior bronze
1:03:09is all whatever there's a scene in which
1:03:10she goes and she seduces the guards if
1:03:13the services guards or attempts to in
1:03:15like terrorists or shirt open and it's
1:03:17ridiculous and that's they deleted it
1:03:20but it's the dinner fix the continuity
1:03:22because they have coverage and she
1:03:23didn't have coverage either but I'm club
1:03:25no no Erica just file that one away yeah
1:03:28i think that would make everything a
1:03:29little better make you angrier but I
1:03:30thought you should know
1:03:31yeah I I appreciate the business the
1:03:33reason for it I i guess but i think it's
1:03:36an then again the river it makes it even
1:03:38worse yeah because it's again it doesn't
1:03:40make me that I also in the it actually
1:03:43seems much more ridiculous over like the
1:03:45scene that was cut so it i think it is
1:03:47an homage to the terrible fan dance like
1:03:50Oh will do this ridiculous thing that
1:03:52doesn't make any sense
1:03:53and then we're just gonna go on from
1:03:55there and actually go back to the plot
1:03:56the we get the they just long saves the
1:04:00day they do stop the self-destruct but
1:04:02it keeps counting down to one because
1:04:03look beautiful always counting those
1:04:05kids unless the bond movie then it stops
1:04:09at seven and there's a really nice i
1:04:12like the little moment where they do out
1:04:14with sarah sand and they've got the
1:04:17mines the minefields pays off again the
1:04:19magnetic these mines look like they may
1:04:20be my magnetic they say early on em
1:04:23that might be important later and so
1:04:26they get a return to the earth and then
1:04:30we get our remote or maybe 13 moment
1:04:32where this this is a this is one of a
1:04:35couple places that this movie reminds me
1:04:37of wayne's world but it's like they have
1:04:39the super said anything looks terrible
1:04:41and they have that moment of like I like
1:04:43we were gonna do that ending and they go
1:04:45back in time and then everything's fine
1:04:46again and then they and then just as
1:04:50long as lighting the roman candles
1:04:52okay to get them back to the convention
1:04:55center and this is one of those things
1:04:57that again it's fun to end where we
1:04:59started although it's like how many
1:05:01people got killed when the side of the
1:05:02convention center imagine--open and how
1:05:05many cars were destroyed by the
1:05:07spaceship as it coasted to a landing and
1:05:09you know it's just like to copy what a
1:05:13way to go Gil Blas spaceship kill but
1:05:18she's standing by that wall anyway I'm
1:05:19sure they were there all true fans
1:05:21anyways just Klingons yeah that's true
1:05:23that's true
1:05:25they were ok yeah it was just it was
1:05:26just like a t-shirt place over there so
1:05:28probably only like the guy who is
1:05:29selling the teacher its current
1:05:30condition
1:05:30this should show those two kids who are
1:05:32making fun of everyone giving searched
1:05:34by the I think maybe I think it was I'm
1:05:35not shown but assumed that those two
1:05:37those two guys work were killed
1:05:40headcanon accepted yeah alright and the
1:05:45over the end credits we discovered that
1:05:47they bring the galaxy quest back know
1:05:50the end with the with the ship's
1:05:53security chief guy ingersoll the guy
1:05:55you're so yeah the last name and the
1:05:57last thing a rock guy acting awful anger
1:06:00soul
1:06:01yeah is it worth mentioning the three
1:06:04times that Sarah skies he does he does
1:06:08come back again and again on the stage
1:06:12on the stage of the convention center is
1:06:15he someone he's a villain in a few
1:06:16things like a horror movie monster at
1:06:18that point he just keeps coming back
1:06:19yeah they didn't really even give him
1:06:21dialogue for the last one he just
1:06:23Saunders out with the with a rifle and
1:06:26what they want that raiders of the lost
1:06:28ark moment almost where it's like oh no
1:06:30and they're like he's gone
1:06:32the end yeah everybody cheers okay
1:06:35should we talk about the Eric let's talk
1:06:37about Quinn
1:06:38yeah okay first of all I would like to
1:06:40point out that i do love this movie I
1:06:42think it's wonderful it is it's just
1:06:44beautiful and heartfelt and made by
1:06:46people who clearly love so many of the
1:06:47same things that I do it really echoes
1:06:50that world perfectly I just think maybe
1:06:52echoes that world a little too perfectly
1:06:54because like so many other properties it
1:06:57really just felt like it was not made
1:06:59for me
1:07:00the female character in this the show in
1:07:02galaxy quest is very you know just kind
1:07:05of silly and useless but she's not
1:07:07really that much better in quote-unquote
1:07:09real right yeah she just I mean you look
1:07:13at the other characters and they
1:07:14actually have some some decent arcs you
1:07:16get Jason discovering that you know he
1:07:18can actually be heroic and you get
1:07:20Alexander discovering that that it
1:07:23really doesn't matter you know what that
1:07:25what you do can touch people it doesn't
1:07:27necessarily matter how high brow or
1:07:28lowbrow it might be and some of that
1:07:31stuff is really beautiful but then when
1:07:33who kicked when her arc the take-home
1:07:34message i got from her is sometimes it's
1:07:37okay to just be really pretty and if you
1:07:40hang in there you don't try too hard to
1:07:42go above and beyond your station then
1:07:44you might we can't land a hunky man at
1:07:46the end of everything but that's just so
1:07:49depressing it makes music I have to
1:07:52agree with Aragon every time I I like
1:07:55her a much better at the beginning of
1:07:58the movie because she seems to have a
1:08:01lot more
1:08:02integrity ended as sense of self-worth
1:08:05in turning down Tim Allen's advances and
1:08:09and standing up for the crew that they
1:08:12work together or not at all and then she
1:08:16just kind of get sort of like silly
1:08:17indeed see on the planet and you know
1:08:21when they're running around in the
1:08:22corridors she got some good lines but
1:08:25they're not they don't change your
1:08:28character push forward like Erica
1:08:30mentioned I feel like they had such an
1:08:32opportunity to kind of turn things
1:08:34beside ways and really highlight how
1:08:37silly those things were the way that
1:08:39they chose to highlight the silliness of
1:08:41the female roles in so many of these
1:08:42shows is to just have this character do
1:08:45all of those things and put a spotlight
1:08:47on it so there wasn't there wasn't as
1:08:49much kind of like you know sigh dying
1:08:51and being like seriously it was like no
1:08:53this is my thing and I'm going to do it
1:08:56eat yeah I I think they wanted to the
1:09:00one to have it both ways right I I think
1:09:02they wanted to satirize the the
1:09:05character being useless and I get that
1:09:07and then they start off with with the
1:09:09actual actress being more interesting
1:09:12and then I at some point in the movie
1:09:15they decide they know they actually want
1:09:17to satirize the actress two men and it's
1:09:21problematic in and it feels to me like
1:09:24they could have done
1:09:25not a lot and made it a lot better just
1:09:29understanding something of their history
1:09:31so that their relationship because their
1:09:34their their their history Tim Allen's
1:09:36character and sigourney weaver's
1:09:37characters is is completely intangible
1:09:40right it's like well some you know no
1:09:42there was nothing between them and then
1:09:43he says well that's what some say right
1:09:45but there's no there's no actual actual
1:09:48anything there's nothing to it and so
1:09:50when they you know when the when the
1:09:54movie ends the way it does were like oh
1:09:56look it's a it's not nice it like it
1:09:59where did that come from
1:10:01it's not really it's not really paid off
1:10:02anyway and if we had a better sense of
1:10:05them being you know people who actually
1:10:08had a relationship and we're sparring
1:10:09with each other and that this was
1:10:11something that made them understand and
1:10:13grow like that they that they really
1:10:16you know that they made a mistake back
1:10:17down or that they were there not as bad
1:10:19as they thought or whatever but none of
1:10:21that is in this movie right the movies
1:10:23two minutes too busy like again
1:10:25successfully taking shots and making
1:10:27funny jokes about various things and I
1:10:30feel like in the end with when they
1:10:33decided that they just would rather tell
1:10:34the jokes and not have the character be
1:10:37a person which for 1999 is not a really
1:10:41surprising thing in a science fiction
1:10:42movie i'm sorry to say no but it's the
1:10:44potential that makes us unhappy is that
1:10:45you think these things going one
1:10:47direction they make I into a
1:10:48full-fledged character and they make her
1:10:50into a cartoon and that's what's
1:10:51disappointing I I have to think that on
1:10:53one level they assume that they that
1:10:55that the entire thing is being seen by
1:10:59people who understand the other
1:11:01characters that Sigourney Weaver is
1:11:04played and that the whole thing is just
1:11:06in contrast to the strong women that
1:11:08she's played in other movies right um
1:11:10that doesn't help you when you're
1:11:12reading this movie right this movie
1:11:15doesn't do it and yes that is effective
1:11:17I think that that's the most effective
1:11:19thing about it right is that this is the
1:11:20same woman who played Ripley yeah okay
1:11:22but in this you know when DeMarco is
1:11:25like a cipher that that's meta meta meta
1:11:29meta is eating its own tail
1:11:32yeah it's an alien tail well and it it
1:11:36is also disappointing to you because of
1:11:38LaLaurie the only other female in the
1:11:42movie and she also just has a
1:11:45relationship we have with Fred quan just
1:11:47kisses Fred quan that's the window job
1:11:51although i think was one of Justin long
1:11:53as crew is a girl yes my so you notice
1:11:56we have somebody who does something
1:11:58that's important and it happens to be
1:12:01that girl who has almost no lines I
1:12:04don't even remember how I think she just
1:12:06stood around when they were in the
1:12:07convention center and in the parking
1:12:09garage at the tech value superstore at
1:12:12peace I don't think she was one of the
1:12:13ones that they called even when they're
1:12:15great yeah we write no I think you're
1:12:18right
1:12:19oh good well just go along his mom is a
1:12:21proponent of recycling
1:12:25its mother thank you Scott
1:12:30you said you salvage this movie i doing
1:12:33again we can have Christmas now nice i
1:12:36sorry I had to type proponent of
1:12:38recycling it's a sec just the title is
1:12:40what makes this movie is it it's loving
1:12:47loving attention to detail that makes it
1:12:50so successful is this movie that makes
1:12:53sense if you don't know Star Trek or
1:12:55Star Wars or other sci-fi movies doesn't
1:12:57work right
1:12:58I don't know my wife is not a link is
1:13:00not a she has a name names like this
1:13:02topic a science-fiction fan at all
1:13:04cannot stand doctor who because of the
1:13:06music which makes her feel queasy
1:13:09she's like stress tension stuff like
1:13:12that and or the plots and so she has a
1:13:15very low tolerance for it she really
1:13:16liked this film we saw it when i first
1:13:18came out I think we watch it again at
1:13:20least once
1:13:20and so it does absolutely sell to people
1:13:22who don't have all the in references to
1:13:26it and i think i think it does work as a
1:13:30as a cultural critique even if you don't
1:13:33know the joke since it's better if you
1:13:34know the jokes but but it's still
1:13:36because it's got so much heart it tells
1:13:38a good story works my co-host on d
1:13:41focused and doesn't like science fiction
1:13:42stuff at all and he really loves galaxy
1:13:46quest and doesn't necessarily understand
1:13:50all of the star trek pop-culture stuff
1:13:53and joke since everything is layered in
1:13:55here but he can still appreciate it for
1:13:57its comedy and it's accessible to a
1:14:02wider audience than if it was just sort
1:14:04of a one of those fan videos that gets
1:14:09shown at fan conventions where they make
1:14:12their own parodies so we should also
1:14:14mention i would entire episode of red
1:14:16shirt to the past but I don't think
1:14:17we've mentioned one right this entire
1:14:19thing is is a you know I don't know
1:14:20where Scott john scalzi falls in terms
1:14:24of loving this movie or not but there
1:14:26are huge echoes and red shirts of that
1:14:28kind of meta meta meta narrative that
1:14:30predates galaxy quest of course it is a
1:14:32trope in sort of you know modern science
1:14:35fiction that's terrible like stainless
1:14:37steel and stainless steel rat
1:14:39what's there's a parody of Starship
1:14:41Troopers forgot what it's called it's
1:14:43harry harrison as a parody of that so
1:14:46there are there are there is a notion of
1:14:48parodying the space opera sonra already
1:14:50of course but redshirts is a great
1:14:52example of of like meta-analytic
1:14:55matamata never any red shirts is is sort
1:14:58of the flip side of this where it's the
1:15:00fictional the fictional people are real
1:15:02and frustrated by all of the fictional
1:15:05choices so it's just a little bit
1:15:07different but yes you have a complaint
1:15:09about the writers are terrible they play
1:15:10this is ridiculous why would you do this
1:15:12to get mad at the writers I i think i
1:15:14think it's a combination of the love for
1:15:18the genre but but it is fun too but it's
1:15:20not it's not mocking fun right it's it's
1:15:24a very it's it's an all-embracing kind
1:15:29of fun it's not it's not putting
1:15:30anything down and saying look this is
1:15:32this is a fun thing these people goofy
1:15:35these people who fee but they're all
1:15:37good people it's okay and and I mean
1:15:41it's it's so much fun watching it again
1:15:43tonight I was thinking about how you
1:15:46know I i have a very problematic
1:15:48relationship with buckaroo banzai
1:15:50because i love the book and I hate the
1:15:53movie and I think this is that kind of
1:15:58tone of light adventure and it with a
1:16:01little bit of pathos and it that
1:16:03buckaroo banzai really was aiming for or
1:16:06could have aimed for and I think it
1:16:08would have been much better if it had
1:16:09been if it if it hit the target and I
1:16:12think this hits that target so uh at a
1:16:15comic-con this year i believe or right
1:16:20around comic-con time there was a web
1:16:23mtv2 the story where they talked to a
1:16:25bunch of people in it and and there was
1:16:28the the writer and the stars all
1:16:30basically said we would love to do a
1:16:32sequel and apparently the writer said I
1:16:35oh sure I've got plenty of ideas but i'm
1:16:37not going to tell you anything on the
1:16:38record
1:16:39so who knows this may be one of those
1:16:41movies that get say that gets a sequel
1:16:4520 years afterward which would be
1:16:47fitting for Star Trek honestly right
1:16:50yeah i mean that's exactly what the
1:16:52start
1:16:52movies were i would be pretty funny
1:16:55they'll travel back in time and there
1:16:58will be a a younger cast the domain will
1:17:02be a next generation and then electric
1:17:04babies
1:17:05yeah you know it was fun this was a fun
1:17:08conversation it's also fun just to have
1:17:09an excuse to watch this movie it's very
1:17:11fun
1:17:11yeah good one I'm never gonna be able to
1:17:14your you know Erica you I was just
1:17:17thinking about how stupid Quinn is in
1:17:19that seat little alien babies which he
1:17:22wants to like run over and hug them or
1:17:23something you know when when Sam
1:17:26Rockwell is the voice of reason
1:17:29that's a bad sign right and I mean they
1:17:31could have chosen any of the characters
1:17:33besides sam rockwell to want to go and
1:17:36you know talk to him for me know what
1:17:38other reasons you know look they look
1:17:40harmless I'm sure they're fine whatever
1:17:42but they it's a very gendered thing that
1:17:44they did to her
1:17:45they're cute they're adorable they're
1:17:47like babies so I want to go and hug them
1:17:49if it wasn't that gender if it was just
1:17:51more neutral maybe I wouldn't have had
1:17:53its bigger problem with it i just
1:17:54realized we we realize that none of the
1:17:56characters in the show it is this is
1:17:58where it becomes is meta is like none of
1:18:00them have any family apparently at all
1:18:03because they're not worried they're not
1:18:05talking my children don't know where I
1:18:07am my husband my wife my partner my
1:18:09lover
1:18:10they're like we're often space and we're
1:18:12not thinking about anybody with the
1:18:13people in this room which is a little
1:18:14bit are actors
1:18:16yeah exactly Oh take a turn
1:18:21Erica its actors so not true that
1:18:28everything that they did was truthfully
1:18:30historical once and differently never
1:18:33never forgiven for that horrible i
1:18:36believed in Santa Claus
1:18:38well this is this is the time where we
1:18:41all have to say goodbye for now and i
1:18:45would like to thank my guests for
1:18:46talking about galaxy quest with me David
1:18:48lower thanks for being here as always a
1:18:50pleasure and Fleischmann thank you super
1:18:53neat Scott McNulty thank you very much
1:18:56for being here
1:18:57never give up never surrender area Erica
1:19:01and sign thanks for being here and thank
1:19:03you for having me it's been great
1:19:05and Joseph rosenstiel so it was great to
1:19:08have you on the incomparable and we
1:19:09should say that people should listen to
1:19:11the episode of d focused for you and Dan
1:19:14talk about galaxy quest if you want even
1:19:15more galaxy quest that by grabthar's
1:19:17hammer please please don't make them do
1:19:19that
1:19:20that wraps it up don't forget to buy the
1:19:25random track t-shirt on your way out and
1:19:29thank you