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the incomparable number 224 December
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welcome back everybody to be
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uncomfortable podcast I'm your host
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Jason now we're here today to talk about
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the classic film its it you could argue
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this is a an installment in my get more
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things about Star Trek on the
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incomparable series it's one of the
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finest Star Trek movies ever made
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it's a galaxy quest not a star trek
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movie and yet so much of star trek movie
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here to talk about this classic
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hilarious movie with me 1999 goodyear
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good year for movies are the following
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wonderful people
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scotland ltd I wouldn't talk about Star
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Trek without you it's good to have you
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here even though this isn't technically
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star trek i was about to say we aren't
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going to talk about probably will too i
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think i suspect we will it and I'm glad
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to be here chase
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good good good David lower also here as
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well I'm very glad to be here Jason that
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didn't come out well at all
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we're not talking about the muppets
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today's street do i miss you fraud here
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Erica and sign you just heard her she's
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out there hello i am out here
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hello we have also Glenn fleischmann TVs
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Glenn Fleischman is joining us again
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hello Glenn welcome back
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thanks i grew a VanDyke beard just for
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this episode you know normally we have
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we have reintroduced people and they
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give us a clever lines from the thing
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that we watched or or read or whatever
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and I have like eight of them here and
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nobody did any so was i I hesitated to
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quick and you moved on to the next
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person i was going to claim that i was
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just simply going to be repeating the
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computer for the rest of this podcast I
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don't get it look I have one job on this
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lousy ship it's stupid but I'm going to
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do and Stewart and that is the introduce
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a very special guest a longtime listener
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first-time participant on this show it
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is Joseph rosenstiel you may know him as
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Joe steal Jojo I I'm just jazzed about
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being on the show man what you did there
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so that was i I was really hoping you'd
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say that so thank you
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you nailed in your 141 uncomfortable now
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you a perfect score don't blow it
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so legal steel
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perfect perfect you can be the security
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chief any day
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alright galaxy quest galaxy quest where
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where to begin this is a my sent some of
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you a link earlier to a story i remember
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reading when I was a kid and a Star Trek
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mythology which is called visit to a
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weird planet revisited which it turns
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out is like was like fan fiction but
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then it got picked up and run in a
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professional anthology and it was a
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funny little short story about how three
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of the original Star Trek actors are
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mistakenly beamed aboard the Enterprise
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through a transporter accident and have
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to bluff their way through an event on
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the ship and as I was watching galaxy
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quest i was like oh yeah I think I don't
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have seen this story before and that's
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actually a sequel to one where the real
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Star Trek characters windup in Hollywood
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so this is the same premise which is
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which is a it's totally it's totally
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real rather than it being like beam
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throughout to a parallel universe in
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this case there there are the the aliens
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the termites or is it Dalmatians
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whoo-hoo make the Thurman's whoo-hoo
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make a replica of the the star ship from
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a an eighties I guess TV show that is
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very much like Star Trek that stars Tim
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Allen and sigourney weaver not the
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actual actors they play less good actors
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i would say Alan Rickman Tony Shalhoub
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great cast in this and and that's the
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story so basically these actors are are
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forced to try and try and try to act
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like sci-fi movie heroes and then the
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fun begins
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I guess we should serve for a lot of
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these movies that have been around for a
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little while out i want to ask everybody
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if they have anything
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first off if anybody has an opening
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statement or some thoughts about galaxy
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question what it means to them now would
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be a time John syracuse was not on so
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that slots open somebody wants to step
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up have a brief statement
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ok Glen gives his brief statement i
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always think that tomorrow is a terrible
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actor and I never want to see me
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anything and then I see galaxy quest and
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there's a few other films that seemed
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really like things you would just it was
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at the santa claus i think that our he's
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so ridiculously charming in the right
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mode and i watch this again and think
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he i forget he can be good he carries
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off some really great scenes in it and
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that's almost like this movie is one of
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things that redeems Tim Allen for all
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the the terrible whole GC work is done
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because he can pull it off because he's
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sort of playing a version of himself in
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this sort of but there's a real
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emotional Center what answer and Buzz
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Lightyear and his love for you know I
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forget you ready soon forgotten that
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still not forget the amount i always
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think i'm a super cheesy and yet he has
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an emotional chord was acting
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yeah i think it's i think it's a really
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good performance I think it's a lot of
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fun i think he is he tries to find a
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place that is the full the full Shatner
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while remaining somebody that you want
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to root for like the right right that
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does shattered economy like oh well I
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hear William Shatner maybe was a little
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difficult to work with when they were
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doing the show and all that and yet the
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same time Captain Kirk you want to root
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for him because he's the hero and that
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that same dichotomy plays out with Tim
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Allen's character in this movie
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well I can't believe that this movie
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premiered in 1999 let's grab my gosh
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that is crazy
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yeah the 15-year old movie folks it's a
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christmas day of 1990 night
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no you're crazy so it is the movies
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begins and ends in a sci-fi convention
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and if you freeze frame you can see that
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there are in the first few rows there
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are people wearing various alien type
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costumes although I thought it was
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interesting that they're very much just
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Klingons in the bathroom
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they're always Klingons in the bathroom
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it's it's great because you just have
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that wall of identical people at the
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urinals but they're all Klingon yeah
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they mean think they could have made a
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galaxy quest alien or something but
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they're like now
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weekly we call some people are Klingons
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least they weren't stormtroopers so so
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the the cast of Galaxy Quest is waiting
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for Jason Nesmith Tim Allen to arrive
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he's late their attention builds all of
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their tensions from you get the sense
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that they if they were not just a big
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happy family as being there being
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described out in the convention hall and
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and they they all have something against
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Tim Allen he finally shows up and they
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go out onstage and of course Tim Allen
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drinks in all of the agitation of the
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crowd while they're all she
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King daggers at him also there's a very
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nice moment where they have to drag they
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have to drag is that Rickman is that
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here where Rickman yeah it's like he's
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had his panic attack you had me i'm
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usually takes off and they have to like
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put a coat over and dragged him back
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into the into the green room as he's as
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he's a being announced at the show must
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you have a shot that's ok couldn't call
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this home so good i mean if you would
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describe this movie to me as being well
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Alan Rickman plays a you know an English
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actor who is very serious actor and he
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thinks that this show is beneath him and
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he doesn't let anybody forget I think
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wow that's kind of a killjoy
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you know that's not a i i i don't know
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that doesn't sound that sounds really
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obvious and kind of like not not very
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funny and it is in reality quite funny
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and they don't they don't ever make it
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like you know I don't know didn't they
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for whatever reason I think this movie
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strikes up a pretty good balance between
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making fun of the source material and
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honoring the source material I never had
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any points felt like this movie made fun
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of me for liking star trek which is
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tough because you do laugh at all of the
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things that are silly about Star Trek
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when you when you watch this movie and
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yet i never felt bad about it or that it
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was it was talking down to me in some
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way and Alan Rickman's character would
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would be a place where that could happen
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and it doesn't happen i think right well
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because you empathize with them
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I mean you realize that he is a very
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good actor and and and he never becomes
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insufferable about it as asthma as hard
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as he plays it as as far as they go with
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it it never becomes too much to manage
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to pull him back and sort of give him a
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little humanity every every time it
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threatens to like what he's doing the
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the autograph signing and it's like yes
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I'm on his I'm improvising with him
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being bored out of his mind hearing the
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same thing over and over again instead
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of being the fan going oh let me do my
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thing for you
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I like the fact that I think this would
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be good junction much is that i really
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hate comedies that mug and in i think
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you know but Tim Sam Rockwell comes the
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closest to it is not monkeys
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sort of but it is character is it was
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over the top but this is played straight
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even the aliens are plates play it
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straight it's funny I mean this high-end
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for comic effect but everything is
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realistic within the structure of the
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film and everything is played completely
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straight which is amazing and that's why
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I think they later get into some really
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poignant and emotional moments because
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they haven't made it into a joke even
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though it's funny and even though some
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things are ridiculous but they're true
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and I think alan rickman is a great
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stabilizing part of that because this
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character is so earnest and then that
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earnestness becomes a true thing later
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when here is sort of ridiculous because
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he knows out-of-work actor or not for
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commercial actor areas i mean it's it's
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sort of a balance I think about what the
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radio script is being funny about it and
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having fun with these styles and troops
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and everything but also telling a
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satisfying story with relatively normal
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characters which is either it's a
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tightrope it's fun but it is a tightrope
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and as for you know not feeling like we
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are being made fun of as fans by the
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movie I don't think this movie would
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have succeeded if that was that was how
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it turned out because it's so clear that
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this film was made with love for the
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genre by people who you can't write a
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script that's going to know all of these
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little tiny ins and outs that well
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unless you're somebody who's experienced
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fandom and they're celebrating it but
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protector bridge in and you know it i
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lovely balance of you know here these
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David thank you
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comedians are from the clock too
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oh that's awesome yeah instead instead
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of ncc yeah uh-huh so it's not mine tres
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bien jokes anyway the fermions transport
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transport Jason Nesmith onto the
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protector he thinks that this is
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thermals because he doesn't kill saris
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cut the ribbon and then they're doing
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they are completely done with him
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him and he suddenly become one of those
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to him here where
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purposely put us off and came up with
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motion pictures potential effects so Joe
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special effects maybe look at that movie
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goo sloshes though
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to which is cool
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accent in the grand tradition of English
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Babylon 5 and and he's great he's a
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minbari and babble i think it was
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multiple he was also an art and Babylon
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evil black magic friend in Buffy yes
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there and he's these saris in this but
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prosthetic but it's great and he's named
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they when they when they when they beam
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back or groove travel whatever back to
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over where they are and it turns out not
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starship reveal shot ii which is there
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egregious at its loving pan over shot a
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starship and then the painfully slow
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scene where they take it out of
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this great being but as well yeah in the
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loving pans as them as the theme music
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comes up of the ship because come on
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oh yeah full chorus of voices going
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behind it it it since all their full
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blast we skip the one great scene where
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jubrey airways and then and that the
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octopus creatures showing up and the
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whole thing it's his totally
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really sweet moment yet oh my god I have
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stopped me last night said what do you
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there's just always start laughing and
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laughing so perfect that was a hell of a
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thing what's wrong with them
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I love Tony Shalhoub industries I don't
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expect it I don't know who decided to
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say just play them really really stoned
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the whole way from and trying to keep
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eating it works
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yeah meeting oh my god that seems it's
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yeah just amazing so I love that again
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to go to that
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that visit to a weird planet revisited
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sitting in the in the Sulu chair
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basically and saying boy I'm glad I'm
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not the sucker who asked a sitting at
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command chair and Tim Allen turns to him
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of like a bit they based it on your hand
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movements and I've read interviews with
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like Star Trek people like especially on
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the next generation where they had a
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flat panels with the the cutout lights
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repetitive thing and end in a series but
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even even just in a play
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they they need the absolute consistency
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of what they're going to do so they know
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what they're doing you know maybe
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they're attaching it to the words
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they're saying or the actions that
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repetitive thing and especially in like
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a science-fiction thing because people
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just do that and and you know he doesn't
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laredo doesn't get it quite right and so
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we get that great after all of this
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uncomfortable as any of those loving
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pans were talking about your schooling
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go on and on it and the students are
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to my shoulders the longer the it's
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great in it there's also a a guy
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attempting to supervisors process
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yea it hit it like he has any real idea
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actually have more ideas since he's been
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watching the show for me
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yeah i'm just-just about being on the
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show man happens around know they they
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go on their their tour donde of the the
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barracks and there's an infinite hallway
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had to be in astronomical haha pun
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intended
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if astronomical cost but they also then
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shelled out for every single crewmember
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to have one of the little you know
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cloaking things so that they could look
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like a human and fit in on the shit even
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though they're all like octopi creatures
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well that's how they match the
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historical documents accuracy is
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important so there's another there's
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another confrontation with saris and
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this is as somebody who loves Star Trek
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to this is a star trek to moment gone
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horribly wrong
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where there's the the confrontation
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across the finish two ships across the
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View screens and Kim Alan gives the cut
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you know museum gesture and then said
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since you know he's super busy as ugly
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and all those things all the while a is
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going we were trying to get his
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attention to point out that he can still
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hear him thats that's a beautiful thing
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because you know you just assume when
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you do the thing like Captain Kirk does
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the thing and it's done right you you
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guys on mute now it was funny but it was
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a little bit annoying because she just
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kept saying his name instead of saying
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you know she could've just let your
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woman that
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yeah exactly well I mean it was one of
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those things were the first time she
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said they were just like I know exactly
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where this is going but I not to not to
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derail this moment but they're there is
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of course the important realization when
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they are eating and they see the tape of
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the previously here being tortured
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yes and they realize that this isn't the
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fun tour that they thought they were
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going on and they all freak out and want
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to leave at that point that this wasn't
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going to be what it was gonna crack up
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there they all want to leave but saris
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is already in range and they can't
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escape they would be destroyed by saris
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if they were in their little group odds
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mhm also that that's got a great moment
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where where Alan Rickman is told that
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they have synthesized his favorite meals
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from his home planet blood takes blood
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tix I want the ones that jumped out and
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pops back down in here I don't think he
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was that hungry because it and that
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that's actually that that scene set up
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really well where you think that what
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you're going to get is the Tim Allen's
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going to be grossed out by the fact that
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this steak that he's eating is not
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actually a stake by the synthetic steak
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but he's like nope it's great and it's
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NT pan down and it's alan rickman who's
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got alien bugs in a in a in a wine glass
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and worms sorry bugs and worms Scott
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this a star trek call out this reminds
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me of that conspiracy episode
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no yes where everyone's eating a world
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terms that's right of goblets and you
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get that moment like to i eat the bugs
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and the worms to prove that i'm who i'm
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not actually or do I just drop them and
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fire somebody with a phaser which is
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what Riker does cuz he's that was a man
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of action
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yes that's what two melons character
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would do let's see what else so so mine
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fields are we up to the mine field now i
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think is the turbo button a conflict
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first but but then minefield immediately
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following are the minefield i like
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because that's it that's actually a
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george lucas feel more than you know
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that star wars movies it's always like
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you know space is vast and there are not
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like feel asteroid fields don't have
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just like rocks everywhere that you have
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to dart around that's not how it works
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and the the minefield feels like that
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were now we've got our little millennium
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fawlcon kind of chase scene where we're
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saris ship is like Darth Vader in Empire
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Strikes Back saying no we don't have to
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go in there just yet and you know send
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somebody in to find them and they're
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dodging the mines and competently
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because they don't they're actors and
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don't have a stewardship and one of the
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other things I also liked about the my
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field is it's not really clear with this
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minefield is actually guarding but i
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don't think this is really spaced it go
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it's like a barrel it's a red it's a
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rectangle a three-dimensional rectangle
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a shape of months just like you know
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like it's like a cleanse me of an
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enterprise episode
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yeah Oh block and cheese that you would
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get at costco it's a block of cheese
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shaped minefield why maybe there's
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something really cool with the center of
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it like a block of cheese sniper could
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be could be some fine aged cheddar or
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some manchego sure there's a sheep
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there's a sheep giving milk and then the
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replicator turns it into I don't know
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the they have damaged by the minefield
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this beryllium sphere is his fractured
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this is their dilithium crystal
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equivalent the beryllium sphere another
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thing like I know it's not dilithium
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crystals but they they created a neat
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effect for it so it actually stands on
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its own it's completely inexplicable I'd
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i love that I mean this forgets that
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reverse engineering thing which is so
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geeky the reverse engineer everything
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about the show and they made things that
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were impossible real because they didn't
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know any better
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including this floating beryllium sphere
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that apparently lets them do this crazy
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space travel stuff
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berlian like lithium is a real element
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turned into something totally ridiculous
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and fictional so the beryllium sphere is
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fractured so now we get to have our away
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mission because the star trek episode
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would not be complete without a mission
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to a planet surface they have the scene
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in the computer room this is the one
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that i mentioned earlier where we're
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Sigourney Weaver repeats everything that
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is said by everybody to and from the
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computer and that goes on a long time to
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and yet it's very funny that it's just
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look I have one job on this lousy ship
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it's stupid but I'm going to do it
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that's great that's a great line and
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this is also the moment where we
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discover that for the Thurman's there is
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no greater tragedy in all of the world
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than the story of Gilligan's Island he
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was poor people poor people i also liked
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the presentation of somebody any of the
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chatroom said that remember mentioned
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Enrico Colantoni cool that's cool into
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Colantoni during comic-con according to
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google and it hurts in four reboot glen
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and remodeling tony is in this as masses
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are and he's great and you may know him
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although he's hard to recognize as a
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Veronica Mars is dad that's how I have
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come to know where that guy from just
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shoot me Enrique and that's right yeah
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he's well-known TV at always gonna be
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Keith Mars to me but it's a purpose of
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the the interpretation comes up with a
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true or are only oh it's just that
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hollowness it's perfectly consistent and
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he's the one who has been talking like
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that for a week now
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thanks guys thanks for making me want to
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move to Canada you pay the price
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really for people whose poor people it's
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a but it's it's great it's a great stick
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because it doesn't it's not so annoying
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that wears thin and then he and the
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other actors bring out the pathos of
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them doing this you know shadow of a
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shadow thing that they're sincere about
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it funny how it's like this ridiculous
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thing and then it becomes sadder and
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sadder as the movie comes out goes on as
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they reveal more of the horrible truth
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in small parts a rain Wilson is one of
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the Thurman's from the office and and
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Patrick brain is quick who is a that's a
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very good character who's got a couple
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very good scenes I should know to the
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Spacedock seen it comes back I didn't
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realize this until watching the film the
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second time a long time ago is the
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destroyed planet is all around the
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Spacedock you don't realize until i talk
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about it later that the space doctors in
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the middle of nowhere and they sort of
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give you one shot where you see like
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bits of stuff floating around and that's
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where they're from that's their
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homeworld for me as but you have blown
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to bits
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I'm not sure how it exploded quite like
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that to have just a little mushroom
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shape left to the planet
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let's get this force field at yeah sure
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that's true
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like they click on energy moon praxis
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hmm that's very good i was gonna say
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Scott Scott emerges from the bushes
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drops car Star Trek reference
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thank you Kono's back into the bushes
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okay so so they go down to the planet
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shuttlecraft essentially and I and that
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leads to a bunch of great scenes
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including the demand that they test for
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oxygen and Tony Shalhoub just does some
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sniffing and determines seems fine to me
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because at this is sam rockwell that is
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most freaked out that he's gonna die and
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he's going to be a Richard because he
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died he was killed by lava monster
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episode 81 so you think that's gonna
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happen again
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yeah and I love a while well he's
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sniffing about Sam Rockwell is this
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holding its breath
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yeah look that's gonna do anything at
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all and they see they so they go again
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one to another wonderful Star Trek thing
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reminded me of actually i think where no
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man has gone before
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Scott but numerous Star Trek episodes
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where there's the big matte painting so
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they come over the the hill of this
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rocky area that looks like you know
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basically Vasquez rocks and you know
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across with Arizona and there's a
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wonderful like matte painting of a
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mining colony right out of Star Trek
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episode and and somebody actually says
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looks like some sort of mining colony
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which is just played perfectly straight
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and like come on you an expert in
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planetary mining colony
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that's right automated mining colony
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well is it it looks like a matte
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painting from their show but it does so
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they see little there there little um
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their little monsters their little
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aliens there i guess they're not
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monsters yet we don't know that they're
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monsters
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that's racist and this is this is a
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place where where the
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that guy's knowledge of the show comes
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in handy because he at one point
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declares exactly what's going to happen
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a couple of minutes before it does was
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like there's gonna be more of them
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returned mean this is another scene that
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really bothers me actually this is the
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one seen the movie i think that bothers
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me the most because you have Sigourney
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Weaver's character suddenly being
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completely stupid and wanting to like
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run out there just because they happen
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to be cute little not only here to like
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I have more to say about her park or
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tell you about something cool that we're
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doing this holiday season you know we
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incomparable at this point and i always
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want to tell people like oh go back and
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three years ago about toys that we got
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when we were kids and you know what the
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way people listen to podcasts is in
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their podcast app not on a webpage where
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they're searching for old podcast so
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what I did is this year I built this
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crazy thing that's like an advent
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calendar in podcast form so if you want
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to hear some great and comfortable stuff
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about the holidays from the past and
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maybe some bonuses and other things that
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you'll find interesting go to the
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incomparable calm / holiday there are
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links to just subscribe to something
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we're calling the incomparable holiday
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box and every day in December between
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the first and the 25th you will get
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something I don't know what I I'm still
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making it up as I go along from the past
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and maybe some other bonus stuff that's
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holiday-related and I think it might be
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kind of fun and maybe we'll keep doing
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it into the new year as a like a rerun
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channel for great old episodes but check
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it out the incomparable holiday box the
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incomparable calm / holiday
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ok back to galaxy quest so so they they
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the little blue alien guys eat their
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crippled friend the carom limb from limb
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as you do and there's a there's a panic
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and everybody wants to run but they got
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to get the brilliant spear so in the end
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they Jason Nesmith this is his moment to
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shine right he he he starts barking
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orders and it's very impressive until
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somebody points out that those are all
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the orders from that app
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so'd where sam rockwell got killed and
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there's a very nice moment where is it
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is it Lorraine know that the tries to
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lie and say it was a different episode
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her don't know
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61 o yea 61 right just to shut up since
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I this leads to rock monster rock
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lobster sandwiches and a big lizard and
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always an appetizer transporting it is
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so there's turns inside millions there's
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a Rock Monster in this pic lizard so
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that there's no changing rock rock will
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translate it rock rock rock rock no I
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like the translating is the last thing
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that they thought to do you have any
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other types i don't care about the the
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Rock Monster this is where the deleted
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scene is actually useful
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there's a call forward but you so you
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know Kim the two main characters getting
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adjacent getting a beating up there and
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he speak dragged around he loses the
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shirt of course and you know what's is
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what's his colleague back in the ship
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talking about it's like you don't
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respect the art you to get inside his
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well the deleted scene is actually Alan
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Rickman going on i put a link in the
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chat room i found a russian version of
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it in tight subtitles where the
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subtitles translate back to english and
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it's hilarious but it's a extended scene
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where it goes on too long without and
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that's why they call it is alan rickman
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is trying to do the method acting like
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what is the Rock Monster want silence
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all this noise at once silence and
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there's a call is a payoff much later
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that doesn't make sense in the actual
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movie its kind of thrown away for that
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deleted scene I window when the rock
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monster gets ejected into space yeah and
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all of a sudden in the I think there's
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actually a slightly different version
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that's in the deleted scene as well
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the one the movie is abrupt the rock
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monster goes hey relax is when it's in
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the silence of space if it's a beautiful
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day off that you know doesn't matter
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there's a little bit of a scene in the
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original but it's actually worth seeing
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the deleted scene just for that little
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little payoff but I
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yeah but it's a wonderful amazing it's a
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beautiful thing that he winds up with
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his shirt off and with like nice bloody
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marks that of course don't seem to cause
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many problems at all aren't still
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bleeding but it's the very very captain
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cookie it's so Shatner shirts and then
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they say it when he gets beamed up later
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is you know of course just shoot lose
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your shirt there by like this is a
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reference to
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I think mostly to the enemy within where
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they the the transporter hasn't been
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tested and again it's based on context
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sergeant changs hand movement since this
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is a moment where Tony Shalhoub loses it
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is freaked out and doesn't want to do
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this because they try to beam up the
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lizard and it turns inside out and
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explodes as up one of those wasn't bad
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enough it does both
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I love the comic timing of it too and
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because it you get that nice shot of it
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inside out well I say nice quotes of it
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inside out and everybody reacts to that
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and then it explodes and you get all the
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bits like flying everywhere and it's
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sticking to some surfaces and sigourney
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weaver slowly gets up and she's like
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hold please and like that little blob of
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pink stuff falls out of the end of the
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communicator when she put it opened its
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it's quite nice but i also like in the
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later in the scene 1 thermi insist still
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covered with the everyone else sort of
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cleared off his face is discovered with
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with ha gu agadir yeah yeah well and
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when they do put beam up by Tim Allen
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you know he's he's into it being into
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that chamber and behind him is just like
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it's just a splatter of horrible things
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abattoir yeah yeah so I like that
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because it is you know like that classic
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Star Trek episode the transporters are
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working right they're afraid to to be
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anybody up and and but they end up
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having to do it because he's the
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shirtless Tim Allen's going to get
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crushed by the Rock Monster little
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course this time it all works fine and
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he's saved you also get the arena
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reference to with the try to construct
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something to get yourself it's someone
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in the chat rooms put it it's can you
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try drugs
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look around you can view it is ready for
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some server mini lathe yeah that's it
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that's the most quantity
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mount kool i found the answer
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yeah so that means they're loving detail
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that won't you know stead that I think
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Scott mentioned that this is these are
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people who who know their star trek and
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know that it's funny but like I mean
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I'll defend that arena episode even
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though the Gorn is the slowest monster
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ever its menacing it's like it's
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relentless it's like magic it makes
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Godzilla look like a gymnast maybe but i
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love it so I they now they're back on
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the ship everything is great right now
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except that sarah has taken over the
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ship plot twists and and so this leads
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to the moment where they have to break
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the news to two masses are that the
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historical documents are not in fact
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historical documents and i really like
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the I like saris in the scene and i
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especially liked his line explained as
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you would a child you know he is he is
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so dripping with contempt for the
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Thurman's and he is really enjoying the
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fact that now that he's figured it out
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that these people are are just these
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actors and that the Thurman's you know
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any danger any damage that that Sarah's
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can inflict on them doesn't match up to
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the emotional damage that he can make
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the humans inflicted on them by
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revealing that they're not historical
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documents it's really nice scene and
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creepy and and in the middle of a wacky
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movie it's a it's a very tough and sad
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scene because you don't let these guys
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down there friendly octopus people but
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actually this is I think one of my
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favorite scenes in the movie for that
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reason because it's just it's so it
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works at this point masses are is I mean
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I ice have started to really feel for
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him in to see him as a child I think
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that line from serious you're right is
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perfect because I just you want to
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protect him he's so sweet and earnest
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and genuine about everything and the
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fact that Sarah's so cruel and making
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them actually explain it
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yeah there really isn't anything works
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that he could do at that point that is
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that is a real villain
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I really want to see the theater on
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services world because he was familiar
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with actors and I was really curious
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what performance would be like since I
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was a cut that's what if there's one of
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their television shows like it's mostly
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just sitcoms it comes and david mamet
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work workplace that slips most that's
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how he turns the wheel
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yeah blood tix are for closers you have
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an experienced Shakespeare until you've
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heard it in the original Syrian yeah I i
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want to bring up just gonna go back just
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a tiny bit which is this movie has a
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unique property i think it you know i
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like the film very much but it also has
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some interesting dramatic properties
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that you don't see everywhere which is
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they have different arc speak at
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different times in they've given a lot
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of time to the development of many
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different characters it's very hard to
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do in a movie you see it more another
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you know TV shows over time or something
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and Tony Shalhoub character gets his
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moment he gets his little paw theosis
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thing when he beams up he looks at missi
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pyle he falls in love they have their
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their moment and then they have the
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terrible that all thats just that right
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see you later but he gets his apotheosis
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before the film peaks so he's found his
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confidence in that sort of carries him
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along into scenes that are that are
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coming up even as other people are
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finding you know their particular life
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journey is hitting the pop art of the
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film where they need to achieve their
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confidence i think that's kind of a it's
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not unusual but it was certainly a nice
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element in it that you had all the
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strands coming together different points
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of everyone going well he's found his
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heart he's found his soul he sound is a
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you know missing wallet
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well this is the challenge with a movie
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like this is that you don't have a
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shorthand that Star Trek has where
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you've seen these characters a million
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times and so they have to use some Star
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Trek shorthand and then they did they do
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like a star trek movie they've also got
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to give them all a little moment to
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shine in a little and a little bit of an
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arc and and they do a good job in most
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okay yeah this is this track so i think
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that was so obvious that i don't even
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think about it but you know how in some
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of the Star Trek movies like wait what
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did what did Sulu do in this matter what
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did who are doing this movie and you
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think back in like nothing is real
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desert just started the band
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and yeah not for the fan not good not
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so anyway there's an escape the saris
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doesn't put them to death although he
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wants to shut out into space
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there's an escape and justice Justin
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Long gets called into action he gets the
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call that every fan is always dreamed of
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the captain of the ship is in trouble
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and he needs your help and this is a
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that it's all real
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oh my god i do it this is every yes
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every fan that I'm not a complete
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braincase ok that was a nice line i like
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um yeah it's nice because he refutes
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initially gave every everything is like
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I everything you know I'm totally normal
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and then of course that's not true
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now let me get the boys on the line here
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we made a 3d model of this but you know
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I know I got an expert for every area of
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the questions that you're asking like
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that too that it's not he's not he again
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he's the captain of his crew so he's got
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his experts in various ways that you can
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deploy them the only expert he doesn't
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have somebody to take out the garbage
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I think maybe maybe my favorite line
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tied to his his storyline is is near the
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end where he's rushing out with all the
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fireworks and he explains why
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and finally goes out and and his parents
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look at each other well at least he's
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going outside
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yeah I also like this there's a scene
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right around here where Sigourney Weaver
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Earl Weaver had watch this twice i had a
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stopped because i'm watching her lips
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move and that is not what she says oh
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yeah I really loud and g let the f-bomb
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know this is going to be an r-rated
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movie and then they just decided it was
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going to be a PG movie instead she said
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they're going to be sex scenes which I
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don't know where those were going to
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wind up in there but she's being funny
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when she did that interview a few years
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ago but yes that was an f-bomb badly
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over didn't did not reach shoot that
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you're doing in America didn't have any
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coverage for it and it's the worst ATR
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yeah you never see no it'sit's a you
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became mr. Falcon kind of moment haha
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but yeah I mean they must have been that
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they must have realized that they that
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they could market it as a PG and they
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and just you know take out or loop
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the-the-the some of the dialogue and so
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they did and that one yeah suffers that
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say you can look at it as a no Maj to
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all of the times that you know classic
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pulpy sci-fi shows didn't have coverage
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and had to do the same thing Bennett
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that ad or sure I ok there's a nice
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scene where where they save the
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Thurman's who are being killed the there
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they're being deprived of oxygen and and
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they're going to they're going to die
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and there and they're saved and this is
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sort of a moment for Alexander deign to
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Alan Alan Rickman but but but sadly
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quick the Thurman dies killed by a shot
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in the back right by a by one of
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services guys
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yeah yeah yeahs comes from outside in
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the hallway and then that guy's that
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henchman is gonna immediately jams and
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just keeps hitting it for like five
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minutes our clinic is dying
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yeah well that's what henchmen he
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probably thrown through it Adam and then
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ran away because when Hegeman do it
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that's the that's I think the single
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sweetest moment in the movie and I i
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will digraphs as you know what I wanted
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when I was a kid highschool did a lot of
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acting and once we have this followed
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graduated high school show up and he's a
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lot of Shakespeare he wasn't like a
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professional did a lot of theater since
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he graduated he's talking about Hamlet
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he's talking talking and then he stops
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and he actually does a very small bit of
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it and the entire universe changed and
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that was the moment I understood what
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acting is different from what we were
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doing and in the movie i had that same
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reaction that alan rickman time stops
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and suddenly he is completely there that
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performer doing a performer's roll doing
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a performer's role and he sells it that
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my grandfather's hamon just like oh my
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god it's all its it is so real in the
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middle of this crazy sci-fi movie that
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he can pull it off it's incredible i
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think that's the emotional part of this
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movie is the scene and it's the fact
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that that Alexander Dane you know he
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accepts that what accept 40 he doesn't
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earlier in the movie which is that that
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this character is important to people
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and the doctor Lazarus matters and and
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this is like you know Leonard Nimoy
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accepting the fact
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that even though he could say I'm not
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Spock like he did in the seventies that
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spot was important and the Vulcan
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philosophy was important to people and I
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you know internet diversity in infinite
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combinations and all and all that live
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long and prosper all that mattered to
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people and whether it started as a show
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and it started as an acting job there
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there's some level of responsibility
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because the these people take it
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seriously whether or not you believe it
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they take it seriously and so for alan
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rickman in that moment to realize that
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the right thing to say to this true
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believer and a and the right thing he
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wanted to say that moment was this thing
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that he's hated all this time and
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suddenly it means something it's a
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really big it is a beautiful moment
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yeah yeah and it also means something
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especially with quick because the whole
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entire time we've had quick in this
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yeah has been with secret in seen
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specifically with Alexander Dane and
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it's always been about the deep respect
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that quick has for this thing that a
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alexandria has no respect at all for and
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it you know he from the moment he's
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introduced until his death even says
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that he feels like he is a father figure
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to him and it's it's really nice and it
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shows one way that I sort of a
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television performance can inspire
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someone even even though it you know
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it's not real but it hits its it's just
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very nice and very touching
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yeah it's a great moment I need of the
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whole thing is the full you know by
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grabthar's hammer by the sons of war van
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whatever you shall be avenged
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I'm gonna go grab some Kleenex watching
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and i watched it again and grab some
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more just you two lovely little bit yeah
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that's really great
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justin long as taking out the the trash
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and recycling I can i mention this in
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our war games episode this feels to me
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to be a direct reference to war games
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because the world almost ends because
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Matthew Broderick has to take out the
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trash like the same seen em the exact
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same scene but it's great
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the this is this is also in in this
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moment this is where we get
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to Milan Sigourney Weaver running
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through as we mentioned earlier the the
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the the bowels of the ship which are
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ridiculous just a series of ridiculous
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things one after another like this is
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you know but the including again sigh
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fine general star wars i think in
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particular but a lot of a lot of genre
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movies where there are places no
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handrails mysterious things that you
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know doctor who did this
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six years later they had that episode
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Erica the end the end of the world where
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there where there are chompers that the
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doctor has to walk through and I'm like
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really did they not see galaxy quest
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maybe they did see galaxy quest and he
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does like Time Lord trance to walk
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through the chompers but it's that you
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know so they got the choppers and the
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any Omega 13 which I I am amused that
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the unknowable thing that nobody knows
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about not even the writer and even the
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people who constructed this ship the
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fermions don't know what it is but they
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know enough to make it
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yeah wonderful can see if because you
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know what they don't do in this film is
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they don't come back and explain things
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at you they're like we built this thing
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we don't know it doesn't no one knows
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what it does and it does this wonderful
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perfect thing and they're like oh well
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the reason it did that like no it just
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did that
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that's what this yeah well there is a
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when he's talking to justin long about
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it and yeah just like oh I envy the
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video you have and stuff like that look
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up and he
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up and he
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to specifically that the fans have
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theories about this and one of them
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happens to be of course the theory that
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it resets everything for x 13 seconds
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II i don't know how they formulated that
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but that was the little bit of
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exposition that helps explain things
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much later on the actual design of the
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Omega 13 is a very interesting and weird
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looking and I I don't know how the
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fermions managed to produce that based
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on whatever the eighties version of that
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looks like it is it's really neat and at
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one of the things that a redhead I think
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it's think is kind of a little bit of a
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plot misstep here is that the whole
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thing with serious wanted to have the
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Omega 13 but he's just going to blow up
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the whole ship with you maybe 13 on it
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and he didn't get it out of the ship
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which is a little strange
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well he can't have it no one will have
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it yeah and all these guys look like on
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always cuz it's all guys are on it but
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he doesn't care he's going to fire all
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the things at them while they run with
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the self-destruct 2i the consistency
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though is that services found out
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they're actors and he's like all the
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omega-3 13 is garbage it's a fake know
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that maybe everything else the ship is
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ridiculous and so on one of the things
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that is less obvious i think but when
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you watch the movie a few times you know
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you they don't overstate this but
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clearly this is a show that ended on a
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cliffhanger that was never resolved the
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Omega 13 is the cliffhanger item that
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the MacGuffin or whatever they they
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Omega 13 being released as the last
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scene of the last episode and it's never
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resolved and you they show that clip of
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him releasing it and and guy says you're
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the last year the first people to see
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this since it aired in 1982 so
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presumably there's a story there about
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how they never put that episode in
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syndication because it ends on a
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cliffhanger that's never resolved and
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they just cycled back to the beginning
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and I thought I thought that was AI
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thought that was a doctor who just
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because he's talking about how he had
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been recovered I thought it was a
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missing episode like all of missing
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episodes
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no I think I think this is what it is
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though is is that it was supposed to be
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that episode because there's no
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what the Omega 13 does because to be
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continued it was never continued it's
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just a nice i mean they could have gone
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over that with a you-know-what the
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highlighter and they don't it's just
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under the surface there that this is the
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this is so in some ways what this movie
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does is actually resolves the big
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cliffhanger at the end of the make TV
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stuff they do i think the river ice
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travel again it is so beautifully
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episode you go right back to the first
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episode so whatever that cliffhanger was
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to whoever was watching an outer space
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it just says everything backwards right
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Oh David you just blew my mind before
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before they trigger the Omega 13 this is
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the other deleted scene continuity
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issues so when when you see her in one
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scene and she's her costumes falling
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apart and then next senior senior bronze
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is all whatever there's a scene in which
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she goes and she seduces the guards if
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the services guards or attempts to in
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like terrorists or shirt open and it's
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ridiculous and that's they deleted it
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but it's the dinner fix the continuity
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because they have coverage and she
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didn't have coverage either but I'm club
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no no Erica just file that one away yeah
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i think that would make everything a
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little better make you angrier but I
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thought you should know
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yeah I I appreciate the business the
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reason for it I i guess but i think it's
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an then again the river it makes it even
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worse yeah because it's again it doesn't
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make me that I also in the it actually
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seems much more ridiculous over like the
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scene that was cut so it i think it is
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an homage to the terrible fan dance like
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Oh will do this ridiculous thing that
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doesn't make any sense
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and then we're just gonna go on from
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there and actually go back to the plot
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the we get the they just long saves the
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day they do stop the self-destruct but
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it keeps counting down to one because
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look beautiful always counting those
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kids unless the bond movie then it stops
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at seven and there's a really nice i
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like the little moment where they do out
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with sarah sand and they've got the
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mines the minefields pays off again the
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magnetic these mines look like they may
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be my magnetic they say early on em
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that might be important later and so
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they get a return to the earth and then
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we get our remote or maybe 13 moment
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where this this is a this is one of a
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couple places that this movie reminds me
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of wayne's world but it's like they have
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the super said anything looks terrible
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we were gonna do that ending and they go
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back in time and then everything's fine
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again and then they and then just as
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long as lighting the roman candles
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okay to get them back to the convention
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center and this is one of those things
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that again it's fun to end where we
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started although it's like how many
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people got killed when the side of the
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convention center imagine--open and how
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many cars were destroyed by the
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spaceship as it coasted to a landing and
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you know it's just like to copy what a
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way to go Gil Blas spaceship kill but
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she's standing by that wall anyway I'm
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sure they were there all true fans
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anyways just Klingons yeah that's true
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that's true
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they were ok yeah it was just it was
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just like a t-shirt place over there so
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probably only like the guy who is
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selling the teacher its current
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condition
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this should show those two kids who are
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making fun of everyone giving searched
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by the I think maybe I think it was I'm
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not shown but assumed that those two
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those two guys work were killed
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headcanon accepted yeah alright and the
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over the end credits we discovered that
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they bring the galaxy quest back know
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the end with the with the ship's
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security chief guy ingersoll the guy
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you're so yeah the last name and the
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last thing a rock guy acting awful anger
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yeah is it worth mentioning the three
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times that Sarah skies he does he does
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come back again and again on the stage
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on the stage of the convention center is
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he someone he's a villain in a few
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things like a horror movie monster at
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that point he just keeps coming back
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yeah they didn't really even give him
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dialogue for the last one he just
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Saunders out with the with a rifle and
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what they want that raiders of the lost
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ark moment almost where it's like oh no
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and they're like he's gone
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the end yeah everybody cheers okay
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should we talk about the Eric let's talk
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about Quinn
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yeah okay first of all I would like to
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point out that i do love this movie I
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think it's wonderful it is it's just
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beautiful and heartfelt and made by
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people who clearly love so many of the
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same things that I do it really echoes
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that world perfectly I just think maybe
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echoes that world a little too perfectly
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because like so many other properties it
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really just felt like it was not made
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the female character in this the show in
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galaxy quest is very you know just kind
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of silly and useless but she's not
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really that much better in quote-unquote
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real right yeah she just I mean you look
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at the other characters and they
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actually have some some decent arcs you
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get Jason discovering that you know he
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can actually be heroic and you get
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Alexander discovering that that it
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really doesn't matter you know what that
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what you do can touch people it doesn't
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necessarily matter how high brow or
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lowbrow it might be and some of that
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stuff is really beautiful but then when
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who kicked when her arc the take-home
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message i got from her is sometimes it's
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okay to just be really pretty and if you
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hang in there you don't try too hard to
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go above and beyond your station then
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you might we can't land a hunky man at
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the end of everything but that's just so
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depressing it makes music I have to
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agree with Aragon every time I I like
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her a much better at the beginning of
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the movie because she seems to have a
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lot more
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integrity ended as sense of self-worth
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in turning down Tim Allen's advances and
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and standing up for the crew that they
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work together or not at all and then she
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just kind of get sort of like silly
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indeed see on the planet and you know
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when they're running around in the
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corridors she got some good lines but
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they're not they don't change your
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character push forward like Erica
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mentioned I feel like they had such an
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opportunity to kind of turn things
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beside ways and really highlight how
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silly those things were the way that
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they chose to highlight the silliness of
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the female roles in so many of these
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shows is to just have this character do
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all of those things and put a spotlight
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on it so there wasn't there wasn't as
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much kind of like you know sigh dying
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and being like seriously it was like no
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this is my thing and I'm going to do it
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eat yeah I I think they wanted to the
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one to have it both ways right I I think
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they wanted to satirize the the
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character being useless and I get that
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and then they start off with with the
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actual actress being more interesting
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and then I at some point in the movie
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they decide they know they actually want
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to satirize the actress two men and it's
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problematic in and it feels to me like
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they could have done
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not a lot and made it a lot better just
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understanding something of their history
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so that their relationship because their
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their their their history Tim Allen's
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character and sigourney weaver's
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characters is is completely intangible
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right it's like well some you know no
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there was nothing between them and then
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he says well that's what some say right
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but there's no there's no actual actual
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anything there's nothing to it and so
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when they you know when the when the
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movie ends the way it does were like oh
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look it's a it's not nice it like it
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where did that come from
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it's not really it's not really paid off
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anyway and if we had a better sense of
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them being you know people who actually
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had a relationship and we're sparring
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with each other and that this was
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something that made them understand and
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grow like that they that they really
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you know that they made a mistake back
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down or that they were there not as bad
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as they thought or whatever but none of
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that is in this movie right the movies
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two minutes too busy like again
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successfully taking shots and making
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funny jokes about various things and I
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feel like in the end with when they
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decided that they just would rather tell
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the jokes and not have the character be
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a person which for 1999 is not a really
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surprising thing in a science fiction
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movie i'm sorry to say no but it's the
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potential that makes us unhappy is that
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you think these things going one
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direction they make I into a
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full-fledged character and they make her
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into a cartoon and that's what's
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disappointing I I have to think that on
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one level they assume that they that
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that the entire thing is being seen by
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people who understand the other
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characters that Sigourney Weaver is
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played and that the whole thing is just
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in contrast to the strong women that
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she's played in other movies right um
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that doesn't help you when you're
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reading this movie right this movie
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doesn't do it and yes that is effective
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I think that that's the most effective
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thing about it right is that this is the
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same woman who played Ripley yeah okay
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but in this you know when DeMarco is
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like a cipher that that's meta meta meta
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meta is eating its own tail
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yeah it's an alien tail well and it it
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is also disappointing to you because of
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LaLaurie the only other female in the
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movie and she also just has a
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relationship we have with Fred quan just
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kisses Fred quan that's the window job
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although i think was one of Justin long
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as crew is a girl yes my so you notice
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we have somebody who does something
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that's important and it happens to be
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that girl who has almost no lines I
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don't even remember how I think she just
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stood around when they were in the
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convention center and in the parking
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garage at the tech value superstore at
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peace I don't think she was one of the
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ones that they called even when they're
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great yeah we write no I think you're
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oh good well just go along his mom is a
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proponent of recycling
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its mother thank you Scott
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you said you salvage this movie i doing
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again we can have Christmas now nice i
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sorry I had to type proponent of
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recycling it's a sec just the title is
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what makes this movie is it it's loving
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loving attention to detail that makes it
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so successful is this movie that makes
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sense if you don't know Star Trek or
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Star Wars or other sci-fi movies doesn't
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work right
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I don't know my wife is not a link is
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not a she has a name names like this
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topic a science-fiction fan at all
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cannot stand doctor who because of the
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music which makes her feel queasy
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she's like stress tension stuff like
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that and or the plots and so she has a
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very low tolerance for it she really
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liked this film we saw it when i first
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came out I think we watch it again at
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least once
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and so it does absolutely sell to people
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who don't have all the in references to
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it and i think i think it does work as a
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as a cultural critique even if you don't
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know the joke since it's better if you
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know the jokes but but it's still
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because it's got so much heart it tells
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a good story works my co-host on d
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focused and doesn't like science fiction
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stuff at all and he really loves galaxy
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quest and doesn't necessarily understand
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all of the star trek pop-culture stuff
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and joke since everything is layered in
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here but he can still appreciate it for
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its comedy and it's accessible to a
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wider audience than if it was just sort
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of a one of those fan videos that gets
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shown at fan conventions where they make
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their own parodies so we should also
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mention i would entire episode of red
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shirt to the past but I don't think
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we've mentioned one right this entire
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thing is is a you know I don't know
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where Scott john scalzi falls in terms
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of loving this movie or not but there
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are huge echoes and red shirts of that
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kind of meta meta meta narrative that
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predates galaxy quest of course it is a
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trope in sort of you know modern science
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fiction that's terrible like stainless
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steel and stainless steel rat
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what's there's a parody of Starship
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Troopers forgot what it's called it's
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harry harrison as a parody of that so
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there are there are there is a notion of
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parodying the space opera sonra already
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of course but redshirts is a great
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example of of like meta-analytic
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matamata never any red shirts is is sort
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of the flip side of this where it's the
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fictional the fictional people are real
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and frustrated by all of the fictional
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choices so it's just a little bit
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different but yes you have a complaint
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about the writers are terrible they play
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this is ridiculous why would you do this
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to get mad at the writers I i think i
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think it's a combination of the love for
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the genre but but it is fun too but it's
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not it's not mocking fun right it's it's
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a very it's it's an all-embracing kind
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of fun it's not it's not putting
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anything down and saying look this is
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this is a fun thing these people goofy
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these people who fee but they're all
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good people it's okay and and I mean
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it's it's so much fun watching it again
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tonight I was thinking about how you
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know I i have a very problematic
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relationship with buckaroo banzai
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because i love the book and I hate the
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movie and I think this is that kind of
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tone of light adventure and it with a
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little bit of pathos and it that
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buckaroo banzai really was aiming for or
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could have aimed for and I think it
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would have been much better if it had
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been if it if it hit the target and I
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think this hits that target so uh at a
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comic-con this year i believe or right
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around comic-con time there was a web
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mtv2 the story where they talked to a
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bunch of people in it and and there was
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the the writer and the stars all
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basically said we would love to do a
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sequel and apparently the writer said I
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oh sure I've got plenty of ideas but i'm
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not going to tell you anything on the
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so who knows this may be one of those
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movies that get say that gets a sequel
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20 years afterward which would be
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fitting for Star Trek honestly right
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yeah i mean that's exactly what the
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movies were i would be pretty funny
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they'll travel back in time and there
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will be a a younger cast the domain will
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be a next generation and then electric
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yeah you know it was fun this was a fun
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conversation it's also fun just to have
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an excuse to watch this movie it's very
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yeah good one I'm never gonna be able to
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your you know Erica you I was just
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thinking about how stupid Quinn is in
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that seat little alien babies which he
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wants to like run over and hug them or
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something you know when when Sam
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Rockwell is the voice of reason
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that's a bad sign right and I mean they
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could have chosen any of the characters
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besides sam rockwell to want to go and
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you know talk to him for me know what
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other reasons you know look they look
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harmless I'm sure they're fine whatever
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but they it's a very gendered thing that
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they did to her
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they're cute they're adorable they're
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like babies so I want to go and hug them
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if it wasn't that gender if it was just
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more neutral maybe I wouldn't have had
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its bigger problem with it i just
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realized we we realize that none of the
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characters in the show it is this is
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where it becomes is meta is like none of
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them have any family apparently at all
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because they're not worried they're not
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talking my children don't know where I
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am my husband my wife my partner my
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they're like we're often space and we're
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not thinking about anybody with the
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people in this room which is a little
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bit are actors
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yeah exactly Oh take a turn
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Erica its actors so not true that
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everything that they did was truthfully
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historical once and differently never
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never forgiven for that horrible i
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believed in Santa Claus
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well this is this is the time where we
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all have to say goodbye for now and i
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would like to thank my guests for
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talking about galaxy quest with me David
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lower thanks for being here as always a
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pleasure and Fleischmann thank you super
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neat Scott McNulty thank you very much
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for being here
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never give up never surrender area Erica
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and sign thanks for being here and thank
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you for having me it's been great
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and Joseph rosenstiel so it was great to
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have you on the incomparable and we
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should say that people should listen to
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the episode of d focused for you and Dan
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talk about galaxy quest if you want even
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more galaxy quest that by grabthar's
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hammer please please don't make them do
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that wraps it up don't forget to buy the
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random track t-shirt on your way out and
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thank you
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