Cortex 40: The Rules for Rulers
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your poor poor poor officemate I don't
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know what you're talking about Mike you
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must crush the wheels of Industry under
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the might of your keys take them down
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these are the rules you have to win
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I only realized after the video went up
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and a lot of people were leaving a bunch
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of comments about my officemate he must
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have been overhearing me do this script
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over and over again I only realized was
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reading those the true strangeness of
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his perspective because he rented the
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office next to mine at some point in the
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summer when I was away and though I
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never see him because i don't have to
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walk past his office he does see my
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office and so he would have walked past
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this empty room with two desks stacked
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on top of each other and no chair and
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nothing inside of it and thought I
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wonder I wonder what's going on in the
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office next door
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I wonder why this storage close it is
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unattended for exactly because why would
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they be tables on top of each other and
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restoring the perfectly reasonable
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assumption and then at some point from
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his perspective the neighbor just shows
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up and is walking through this half
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written script on the rules of power
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constantly at odd hours he never he
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never would have heard me talking about
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anything other than this single topic
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and he would have heard me talking just
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this morning I think doing it again with
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the follow up videos but so this is you
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know whatever is from the start of
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september's until now this is this is
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always heard from next door after being
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in the office on his own for a while
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probably wondering what the deal is with
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the strange room next door and then
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finding out I don't know if he's found
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yeah I don't mean found out as in he
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understands what's occurring I mean
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found out as in like oh this is what's
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next door a crazy person I don't even
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know if you think that was crazy like I
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was it would be scary so we're talking
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about your the rules for rulers video
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the worst part of this is that this
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isn't even
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a hello I'm cgpgrey talking to you the
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internet video this is a i am a dictator
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and I am Telling You learned dictator
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he's trying to rise up the ranks how to
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control the world
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that's the real problem with this is
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it's not just explaining these things
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you're talking about them is if you're
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already doing them
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yeah it was it was a little bit of the
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screwtape letters like of the senior
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demons talking to the lower level demon
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like this is this is kind of what it was
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and so guess this is why on the last
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episode we had that little bit of a
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discussion about like in your videos
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thinking about the things you're adding
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on the screen as the editor is like a
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separate person I was very aware in
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writing and rewriting this video
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spending a lot of time trying to find
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like what what is the voice and how am I
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actually going to talk through all of
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these things and I did eventually decide
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on on exactly what that was which is the
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best feeling like this is someone who is
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who is instructing an apprentice like
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that's that's the mood that I'm going
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for here that's what I'm going to try to
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achieve when i record the audio and it's
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what people might not realize like when
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i'm actually working through the script
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i am saying it just like that because
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I'm trying to hear how are each of these
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lines going to sound when they're spoken
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so the voice in that video is the voice
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next door to this guy for months
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Saudi listen if you if you have not yet
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watched this video go watch this video
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now because we're going to talk about
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anyone make any sense to you have always
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now I want to know where the idea for
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this one came from because it's it's
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kind of like some of the other stuff
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that you've done like it in that you
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know you've done videos about mares and
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Pope's and kings and things like that so
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there's like there's some links there
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and I guess there's some joke
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geographical ties to it because you're
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talking about controlling countries but
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it feels a little bit different and also
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the presentation was a little bit
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different so where did your original
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idea for this one come from so that
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there's a thing when i look at the
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videos that i make this can be that may
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be a recurring theme in this
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conversation but i often just see what
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they are not like I'm very aware of all
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the things that they leave out and that
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they don't talk about or what I intended
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to do but haven't actually done and so
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for the last us election i was working
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on a video that was a big combination of
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all of the things that are wrong with
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the United States government like the
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mechanisms of the way that it works i
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think the US just happens to have a like
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a a bunch of pieces that individually
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wouldn't be so bad that but like but all
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together add up to be a problem and I
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was working on the script for a while
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and ended up not making it for the last
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election but it was a thing that I kind
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of tinkering on for a while and like a
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big a big video about something about
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like the big-scale picture of the
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structure of politics was always on my
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mind and I ended up reading a bunch of
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books that were around this topic like
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covering it from from different angles
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and at some point maybe two years ago I
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have to look at my book list for out
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precisely what it was but i think about
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two years ago I came across the
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dictators handbook and I felt like ah
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this book is doing a great job of
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synthesizing a bunch of the things that
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have been rolling around in my head and
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and making a coherent picture out of a
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bunch of little pieces of things that i
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wanted to talk about and trying to show
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like a like a way to think about this
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stuff as a theory to explain the actions
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of rulers essentially my original script
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that was entirely about the united
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states that I was tinkering with the
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part about the u.s. like kept getting
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smaller and smaller and smaller and
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smaller which with each draft and each
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time more and more and more about the
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structure of politics took over until
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eventually at some point I realized you
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know what I think this is actually
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better too
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to just do as like an elucidation of the
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ideas in the book and so if you watch
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the video there is one section that
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maybe it's like 15 minutes in but I just
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I just quickly say about how Oh in in a
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in a democracy there's a couple of tools
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you can use to help reduce the number of
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voters need to get into office like you
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can change the voting system you can
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gerrymander the boundaries you can have
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party pretty elections with complicated
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rules that limit who people can people
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can vote for and once the reelection
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rates are super high and the approval
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rates are really low you know that you
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want that paragraph is the only thing
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that's left from what was thousands and
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thousands of words of a different script
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that was focused on the united states
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like it's a funny experience for me to
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watch it and see that that like one
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thing over the space of years thinking
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about a topic like gets smooshed down
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and compressed and something else grows
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around it so that that's the way the
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script looks at from my perspective one
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of my favorite things was watching the
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video and maybe about 20 or 30 minutes
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in something like that and it dawns on
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me that all of these things could apply
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to companies and CEOs and maybe
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references that you call it out at the
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end which is which is awesome but there
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was this moment where I was like oh no
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CEO they're really just dictators yeah
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well to also go with the theme of of
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things left out this video ended up
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being just a just a a really brutal
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thing to make this this turned out to be
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the hardest thing that I have have yet
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written to date previously humans need
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not apply LOL held that mental but this
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one has definitely taken that and taking
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that by quite a quite a wide margin
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because the first drafts of this video
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were fifteen thousand words long and for
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comparison that the final version is
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three thousand words long and it's it's
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because this idea touches on so many
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aspects like like with companies that i
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wanted to talk about all of these these
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different pieces right like how does
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this relate to this how does this relate
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to that and it was very hard to make
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that workable but the the section on
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companies like a very obvious thing to
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think about and it may come up in a
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follow-up video but but the reason I
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didn't talk about companies is because
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there's a there's an unavoidable
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additional piece of information that I'd
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have to talk about if i want to talk
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about companies that I like I had to
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leave out of this first video because it
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was just too much like every time I ran
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the idea past other people when i was
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talking about this project i could see
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like oh this is the moment when i lose
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you so I had to leave it out of this but
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it's this idea of the relationship
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between the ruler and the keys to power
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and how like how replaceable are the
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keys to power and you can end up in
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situations where you have a ruler who
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has a small number of keys but they're
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very highly replaceable right or ruler
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who has a large number of keys but it's
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very difficult to replace them and this
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this is essentially best understood when
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you're thinking about like companies and
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boards of directors that essentially the
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more power a CEO has over the board the
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more the CEO is able to replace the
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members of the board the more leeway
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that CEO has like they have more power
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to just do what they want but if if the
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CEO is not able to replace their board
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members then the CEO is like much more
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beholden to what the board once versus
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what the CEO wants to do feel something
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like the founders advantage is an
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excellent story i don't have actually
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never verified if this is true it just
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it sound so true i have a heart
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I'm not believing it because it's
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related to steve jobs here it's like I
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was wondering how far we go into this
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conversation before he popped up right
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yeah but I i have heard i'll be curious
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to know in the comments if this is true
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or not but I have heard that that on the
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return to apple after Steve Jobs had
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been banished the first time when the
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board had gotten rid of him that one of
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his key negotiating requirements was
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that he was able to pack the board with
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his own cronies and he was able to get
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rid of a bunch of people who are on the
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board of directors and I think that's a
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perfect example of people think of the
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companies like the expression of the
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individual right but it can only be an
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expression of the individual if they're
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very secure in their position of power
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who helped them stay in power but I'd i
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my head but it's different to see it
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business how when someone gets promoted
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they're going you like why would they do
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the people who have helped them i think
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it's a really harsh but necessary lesson
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for people to understand who are working
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within businesses like often what the
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people above you want is not what is
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hierarchy that's going up and i think it
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thought but i find it like an incredibly
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liberating and clarifying thought like
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getting interested in economics and had
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interested in economics and the two of
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load one day and we realized oh hey we
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year right as as we're sitting there in
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junior you're trying to plan out that
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the next year like all this is this is
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really interesting like we can let's
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let's do this right we have the time
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there's nothing else we're going to do
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you might as well like what does it hurt
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graduation so we intended to do this we
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in the classes because we had a
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ridiculous unfair advantage which is
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that many of the classes we were taking
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right where to seniors in that in these
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classes and also the way
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economics is structured a lot of the
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really hard stuff like the math are
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specific instances of general cases in
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physics and so basically like if you
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really well in these classes and then as
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essentially what happens is that the
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the dean of the university to boot my
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friend and I out of the classes after
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the cutoff of when you could
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theoretically drop classes are like
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we're just rejected from these classes
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like we couldn't get any reason like why
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did this happen i don't understand why
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this happened
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we're really screwed now because now
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we're part-time students all of a sudden
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right when we plan to be full-time
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students which has all of these effects
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on your funding and where you can live
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on campus like it was a huge problem and
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one of the physics professors that the
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reason this occurred is because the
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university had a structure that
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determined how grading curve could be
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classes and that we were making that
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class look like they were much worse and
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getting much worse grades and so the
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of us because it was bringing down her
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average grade reports up-to-the
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university dean and she had some favors
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that she could pull from him to get a
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thing that's not supposed to happen to
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happen top level was too high you are
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of the class so we were artificially
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pushing down the grades of the other
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students which then reflected badly on
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the economics chair right and so like
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eye-opening moment of oh ok this
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it is a place of learning
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way you suddenly discover that there's a
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bunch of kingdoms right there are
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with each other and that if you end up
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are but upon in this larger system again
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early example of this to me
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face it's very similar in this is why
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it's so shocking to learn about think
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about any of these things in this way
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from democracy to all the way down to
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education who is that people care about
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themselves more than the thing they're
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supposed to be doing so in this instance
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the professor cared more about her job
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and her grades and how that looked on
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her then you're learning brain for me it
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was like people cared more about their
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customers of the bank right right we're
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you know more about their own job
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performance not even necessary the
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bottom line of the company just their
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frustrating i used to find that because
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be doing the right thing
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whoo & and that's where like these
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things become harsh and and is that like
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have been denied the education because
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it makes somebody else look at yeah it's
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finally I am I am the most you know let
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alive but every once in awhile that's
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still I remember that and I feel like we
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should have gotten that economics minor
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yeah right as it didn't have like what
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does it matter actually get matters not
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at all it doesn't matter for anything i
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economics anyway like it didn't get
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affected nothing in my life but like
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it's it's just I think sometimes I
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like the mccobb of finding this out is
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exciting and interesting right like I
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perspective i want to come through those
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numbers in a minute but like you know
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enjoyment perspective because it's like
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breaking social norms in a way like the
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things that we expect these people i
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think i think i have a hard time
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conveying is is this idea of i'm not
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dismiss a thing but I i feel like i am
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language might be uncomfortable to
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acknowledge its not cynicism it its
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realism this is what is happening and i
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jewel parts of this like the people will
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try and get themselves into office
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because they want to be powerful
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marketing you have to have that thing in
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handbook but even when i was when i was
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I am NOT interested in promotion like I
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competition for you
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job like I'm just going to be a physics
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problems for my managers that's like
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managers need to see how can i do that
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this job if I recognize like ultimately
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myself like just keep your mouth shut
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political capital capital here to
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actually do anything you've set that up
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situation in life I don't make as many
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my job prior to the marketing job I
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thing right so do not advise that course
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you in part by tracker smart cars smart
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not so smart now is sitting next to me a
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time overviews boot yeah that's a good
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that happens which is everybody trying
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this is just a rumor
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how much of this is real is there
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data set to try to get an answer to this
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people want to see I think that's
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sensible on Piper let's say i had some
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eat you need to have some kind of number
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our videos are our heart or how not good
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you know and I've I've lived through the
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various phases where you can see that
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the YouTube algorithm is poorly attuned
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hilarious results boob apocalypse was a
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we're just some nails with boobs in them
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work everywhere all over youtube for
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like a month because of some tweaks to
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the algorithm and they had like oh god
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terrible thing but you couldn't watch
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any video without seeing that the
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related videos were people who were just
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like reacting to the main video but we
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just put boobs in the thumbnail like i
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used to get this on every single video i
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made for for a couple months before they
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tweak the algorithm around like it so
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it's a really hard problem to solve
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when you also consider that there are
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people who are trying to game the system
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constantly at and so what watch time
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now that the thing that I don't know is
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how much does that actually affect the
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video going out to subscribers
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how much does it affect if it gets onto
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the trending part of YouTube or not I
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ability to now like looking through my
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own data set and trying to do some
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correlations you know against different
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values for like how did how much does
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this seem to affect as correlated verse
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watch time on my videos I can't really
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draw any super strong conclusions that
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there's like an there's an unambiguous
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relationship between watch time on a
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video and how many people view it right
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like how many views how many subscribers
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does it go out to I can't see and
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unambiguously clear relationship between
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those two things there's a second
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question which is due longer videos make
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you more money and i think there's a
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confusion that has occurred here among
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youtube viewers which I actually think
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for this
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he's always making jokes about that you
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know I gotta get the video to 10 minutes
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somehow related to youtube red which
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distributes money based on watch time
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and that's that's actually not the case
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youtube red money is distributed to
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everybody in proportion to their watch
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time but when you get a video / 10
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minutes you can put an ad at the end of
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it not just an ad at the beginning like
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those pre-roll ads that show up you can
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have one at the end
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ok that's why lots of YouTube channels
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are aiming for videos that are 10
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minutes and one second long is because
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it means they can double up the number
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of ads that potentially show on that
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video how do you feel about that Mike
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such as terrorists i understand it but
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like I don't know it's like in its own
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little way kind of upsetting to me
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it annoys me that it's even a thing the
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last time this happened to me was I put
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up a video the the Q&A video that I did
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now did a Q&A with greater number three
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to nine minutes long and I was annoyed
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simply by the fact that i found myself
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thinking for a second like should i do
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one more question this Q&A you know to
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stretch it out to 10 minutes i thought
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now like I hate this system controls I
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don't like this like this even the fact
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that this thought is occurring to me
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like irritates me
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I don't even want this to be a
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consideration like I've spent a whole
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bunch of time on the script I think
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these questions flow in an appropriate
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way like no I'm not going to go back in
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and monkey wrench in an additional
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questions we can make my video 10
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minutes and one second long so there can
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be a second at the end i guess i don't
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blame youtube for this this isn't
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something that I think YouTube is doing
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they're doing like the best they can but
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it's everybody else that's the problem
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is like the people who try and gain it
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but funnily enough it relates back a
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little bit to what we were just talking
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about a minute ago
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Lou the people being up in the system
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making it worse for everyone because
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they have their own things that they
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want to try and gain out of it like
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there's someone somewhere who is in
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charge of how much adsense revenue does
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YouTube generator
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quarter and they want to make that
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number go up and it is totally
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reasonable that if you say so you upload
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a video that's an hour-long to youtube
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well it's reasonable to have an ad at
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the beginning and at the end and to have
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an ad in the middle because it's a
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totally reasonable thing if someone is
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on your site for an hour watching some
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content once you can see that point
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there has to be some cut off below which
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you say you're not allowed to have more
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than one ad on this video and and
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whatever that number is you're going to
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always have people ending up like near
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that number up and then feeling like P
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we make it just a little bit longer
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because like that the idea of the cutoff
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is a user-friendly is a
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consumer-friendly thing move but it ends
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up being negative the consumer because
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then you end up with people pushing to
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get to that point right right and here
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here here is a situation where we now
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talk about the power again right
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personally if I was in charge of YouTube
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adsense revenue and I was also
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incredibly secure my position of power
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and didn't actually have to increase
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those numbers i would i would probably
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raise that limit from 10 minutes to 20
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minutes i think twenty minutes you're
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going to just cut out a lot of videos
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that people could possibly stretch
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I think 10 minutes is just too close to
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the point where a bunch of people can
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stretch it just a little longer to make
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a 1001 and 20 minutes outside of that
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but back in reality land whoever's job
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is it is to be in charge of Adsense
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revenue has to go to their boss and be
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like I would like to decrease quarterly
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revenue by potentially millions of
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dollars that who knows how much and and
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what's your reason for this
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I think it's a slightly better user
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experience is like now get outta here
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this is wrong this is not possible we
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have like you crazy like can you show me
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on paper how much better the user
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experiences like two people even really
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care and like this isn't it never gonna
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I have a question for you we're going to
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play this game
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ok the cgpgrey channel who is a video is
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a chat is like one of these channels
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whether it has like four people to make
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as for it right and you run it and the
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videos are coming in at nine minutes and
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30 seconds they keep they keep kind of
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floating around that number nine minutes
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8 minutes 25 nine minutes 45 to you as
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boss of cgpgrey channel instruct your
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video creators to push to 10
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ok so now this is a thing we're told
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like the details totally matter and one
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of the questions is like how well is the
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business doing there are many scenarios
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which I might not even have a choice
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about whether to do that or not the
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business is doing perfectly fine
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ok so now that now this is this is
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exactly how i try to arrange my life
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the business is doing perfectly fine and
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if it's all arranged the way great
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industries is arranged which is i'm the
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dude in charge and I have no one to
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answer to
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I would just leave it like a knob it
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would be fine you know you could make
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twenty-five percent more revenue year if
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you ask you'll create as to just to 25
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seconds more work for each video I would
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still say no under the assumption that
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the business is doing fine and I can
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feel confident saying that because I
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know already that i make a bunch of
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decisions that are like that show which
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witch is which is getting back to your
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very first question about talking about
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the length of this video like is the
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length of this video longer to make more
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money in some ways actually not some
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ways in almost every way that a
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spreadsheet can measure this video is a
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terrible i see it's just like it a
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terrible terrible idea in terms of
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return on investment and in terms of how
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long did it take to make but I also now
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fact-finder's is increasingly thing i
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have to be aware of is how much does it
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cost to make when it's not just me
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working on it anymore and also when
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facing the reality of this video could
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quite easily be to 10 minute videos or
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35 minute videos like there-there are
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chapter breaks in this video around the
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dictatorship democracies and taxes and
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revolts there's no reason I couldn't
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have made this a three-part series
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especially when you have two more videos
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yeah well I have
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videos planned anyway like it's going to
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be it's going to be more stuff coming
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down the road so it is not like it would
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be feel like an artificial splits you
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know it's it's a it's a weird thing to
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look at this and to know for a fact that
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the way my business runs i could
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essentially have tripled the
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profitability of this video for not very
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much work and I chose not to this is one
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of the great things about working for
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yourself is that you can make decisions
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based on taste that is it is so it is so
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true i I'm actually I've had it I've had
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a number of decisions like this that
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happened to come up in the past couple
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weeks where there's a question about
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should i do with thing the thing is
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obviously a good business decision but I
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don't feel good about doing the thing as
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I guess what i am the CEO and the board
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of directors of my own company so i
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don't have to do this it is a freeing
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feeling to know that you can do like you
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know one of the very basic things for us
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is the sponsors that we turned down
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yeah yeah companies that I know will
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give me maybe more money than some of
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the companies that we work with just
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because they really want to get their
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previously like from when you decided
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i'm making this video about this topic
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that that's pretty clear
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only thing I am working on constantly so
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we're looking at about two to three
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yeah closer to two months than three
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alright so let's say it's 22 months of
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work what does the average time that a
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okay well this is this is the thing i
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script six weeks to go from start to
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implicitly that I'm like I'm working on
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working on multiple things and so I have
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number for this script because it was
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just a thing that my family is the where
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was just constantly on my mind and so I
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number on how much time I have spent on
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this and how much time i have i have
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written and discarded and written again
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enormously long drafts trying to figure
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have no number for you Mike
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so this one but like much but kinda
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maquina and trying to drive from this
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which you've done perfectly for me is
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that this one was abnormally hard and
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tricky and difficult to complete in a
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way that the script usually aren't like
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this your home was way harder
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yeah i'm usually frustrated by every
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script i work on but like this one was
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difficult to the point where it was
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impacting my health difficult like just
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anecdotally I think maybe since since I
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in our conversations I've known
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something about every video that you put
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out since then
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I knew nothing about this one other than
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the fact day was killing you
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who and that was an interesting data
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point for me to highlight how much you
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hated this video is that he didn't
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really want to talk about it and that
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was a very interesting to me just to see
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that so from from the history of this
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show and the things that you said in the
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settlers of catan video is the mean here
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that you will put a script to bed if it
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is killing you who you didn't do that
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wrong there
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sorry Mike that's that can you see where
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i was driving at that like it changed
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your business in a certain way because
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you decided to have assets that enables
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and she working on it anymore it was too
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yeah it's my Terry it totally wrong
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couldn't be going at like that there's
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about how having an animator has has
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changed my business quite a lot but that
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is totally wrong
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yeah I knew there was but I had as much
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chance of being right is being run on
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this one I can see why you were thinking
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that and I did because I knew this was
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going to be such a nightmare and it was
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going to be really long i was having the
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animator just work on generic stuff way
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ahead of time like a look we're going to
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need some dictators we're gonna need
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some Kings are going to need some
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Thrones and some tanks like I don't
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exactly know where any of its going to
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go but like just start dry we that we
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can use all of these pieces later but
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had this script not come together at
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some point I would have just abandon
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that we would have just put it on ice
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well you know we'll come back to this at
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some point you know it was a drawing of
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a guy with a crown on it isn't going to
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go to waste on the CB great channel like
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it's going to come up at some point so I
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don't feel that way then I don't know
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why you kept this one going i said
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before i found this topic personally
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video is at the base of why a lot of the
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in my videos are the way they are right
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details like they get bogged down in the
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details of individuals and lose sight of
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the structure and so this to me feels
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like I'm I have two ideas that I'm
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them that i think is so important is
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like listen people you're intense focus
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important but it's an incredible amount
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of energy being devoted to the wrong
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I have been able to turn someone's mind
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if i can i can turn your mind from
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thinking about these problems as related
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to individuals instead as problems that
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fall out of the structure i think that
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it makes the world less confusing and
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much more understandable
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it makes perfect sense like I can say it
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just like it
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write it was it just this is one of
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you but it's nice to know that like the
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that doesn't do this to you who you
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easily done that but you didn't you
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the money pit but i really want to make
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two videos but you didn't do that like I
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now to pull you back like bleep bloop
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doesn't compute
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are you getting here like flowers in
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nothing you can do now that this out
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there the ideas out there run away from
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he would i'm at just you know I really
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was terrible it was really terrible i
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which is awesome congratulations thank
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you start looking at the other numbers
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in your channel and they're so large
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right they're all in the millions and I
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viral videos they usually seven-figure
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view videos right sometimes more than
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cgpgrey videos anymore like they not
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just all viral videos and like if all
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videos of viral or any really wild hook
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interesting question and like are you
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videos but i think at some point they're
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YouTube channel and then they make a
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video and it goes really crazy and it's
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regularly highview numbers who recently
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views right i think of the word i think
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of the word viral is going to mean
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something and there's it has to be
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something about outlier status my
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that it is and it's a month old
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yeah but that's viral illness right he
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did I pick my place he had a bunch of
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really popular videos you know any yeah
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career is sort of similar like in that
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get millions of you every day of the
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week virality is relative
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videos like what is this successful
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should expect and so like I don't eat
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like that is a viral video but i'm not
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i'm not sure that they can be described
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as viral video so I don't think that's
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number two number but it's like what if
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they're everywhere posted on website
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something and that still happens to you
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like the videos stretch outside of your
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subscription base by a huge margin is
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which there isn't one
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thought of as being viral by you anymore
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magnitude of each other all of them
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really any outliers and I think they're
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humans need not apply those videos which
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are catching up to them
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has all of this data actually if I if I
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the variance in the videos is very high
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first 28 days so how did you do in the
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views right in the first month and is
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the variance was just much higher
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too low batt still there
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this is the problem with you with this
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write is you have an idea of what this
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especially whereas all divers didn't
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have anything to do you know what we
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this time doing now is just this weird
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effects of these large numbers so you
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recommend the dictators handbook right
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yeah at the end of the video and this is
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the book that you learn from and you
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mentioned people to go and check it out
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because you think it's very good
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you did a really great job of selling
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this book like I became interested in
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the book as well I don't know what it
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was that you did I was like yeah I want
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to read this book which is a very rare
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thing for me and then somebody contacted
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the book had gone from like position
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stock in hardcover
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go listen to this book but but
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there's nothing about Amazon here and
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physical copy of the book that exists
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power go to your head man I'm glad
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people are reading the book you know
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it's like I get mission accomplished
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you should read this book that they
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cool that i think that's that's the part
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sales if i do that and so it does that
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vote if you're going to vote we don't
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mic disclaimer to do end right so i can
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my conscience is clear look like the
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final tally is there one vote for great
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always a story that happens and so now
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we might be this story if this county
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final total that there was a great
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people at we could be at the center of a
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national news story Mike so this is in
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Jackson County Illinois no I'm Jackson
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now that's fantastic absolutely after
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open red and it just had just been
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posted i'm so excited about it it will
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yeah i mean an end to be your vote is
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viewers can can watch my video and then
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president for just a moment you're like
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it's a terrible idea nobody wants that
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job it's an awful it's awful job like I
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don't want it but for just a moment so
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you can take your time just one time you
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know like it will it will suck and it
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will be horrible but we could do it
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together you know just for four years
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yeah right so it's in the history books
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is like my curly was elected in 2016
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for the lulz yeah you know I just take
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one time it was that the whole thing we
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will have no we will have no political
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capital so we will accomplish nothing
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that's fine
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yeah i would do one time so we're gonna
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do what could go wrong how much how much
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bad could happen in four years I can't
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imagine very much like it's amazing it's
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amazing it's amazing i bought a ticket
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for VidCon oh yeah yeah I didn't know
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they were on sale yes they are on sale
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now i got like a pre-sale ticket
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oh because you're part of the cool kids
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club right
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not really i am a member of the internet
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creators guild which is something that
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painful who and because it's that was
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established by hank green icon is run by
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hank green there was like a very small
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discount and early ticket you could buy
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if you're part of the icg which I took
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advantage of because doing it was
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nowhere near as expensive as I expected
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who's like a hundred and thirty dollars
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or something but which but which tier is
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that Mike because I learned on my last
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trip to VidCon it is very is very much
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in class system with several tiers that
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are represented by the physical levels
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in the building so which two are you
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I went for creator ok so you you are the
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top tier them well now those industry
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oh god I can't even remember
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industry was like five hundred dollars
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and the worst VidCon attendee ever and
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can't remember which way the two years
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ago I mean I would have gone for the
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industry to just get the most of
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everything but I'm i was reading it and
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I was genuinely interested in the
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Creator track loo like the courses and
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like the workshops and stuff is stuff
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that I genuinely want to do like to
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understand how to be better at YouTube
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but I think even in june of next year i
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will need that help so I thought I this
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is what I do is I just at least my first
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I just want to go and to see it actually
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lose here to see the madness I just want
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to I just want to experience what goes
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on there like for the same reason that
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you did it right like just to just see
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it exactly like I want to see this thing
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that is thousands and thousands of
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people with the way love American hotels
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work i booked the hotel rooms have to
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pay for internet go right to forget its
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I'm not really losing at the utmost I
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lose a hundred and thirty dollars in
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which which is fine i saw the business
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paid for it like I'm good
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and now just hoping that I can go right
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because that time of year is also when
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apple's WWDC conference occurs right my
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real hope is that it happens like what
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happened last year where it was like one
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week is one the next because the other
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cuz then that's perfect up in San
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Francisco and go to LA yeah last year
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that worked out fantastically because
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you know i mean that's that's the whole
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reason why I had this crazy summer was
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this is a bit of a question like what I
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go out to California just for VidCon
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like maybe not i really don't like
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traveling i have a really hard time with
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jetlag would I go out just for WWDC it's
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like how can I have no reason in the
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world to be at WWDC really was like but
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if you take those two and put them back
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to back suddenly it makes a difference
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is like oh now now this might make sense
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to do and so yeah that that's why that's
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why that happened for me but I Apple
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never announces their dates until the
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last possible minute so you know is how
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dates are going to align that this
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upcoming summer
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however that has been a change to pick
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here which works in my favor and that is
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now longer
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oh is it yeah it's four days really
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it runs from the 21st to the 24th does
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that include the disney day where
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everybody goes and twenty-fifth ok so
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it's actually five days now wow so even
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if it's the same week I could still get
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two days of VidCon in at the end i could
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go on friday and saturday
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ok so your commute down to LA from San
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Francisco if you're in WWDC and then you
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go to VidCon for the end of it yeah I go
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for the last two days
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that's not unreasonable thing to do
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because I'm still just i'm only going to
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see right like ideally I want to do the
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whole thing but the prime like and I
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want to do all of the courses i want to
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do the whole track but my primary reason
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is i want to see an experienced VidCon
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so i'll still get those two days and i
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will go to Disney who on the on the
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twenty-fifth because I've always wanted
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to this is like I will be in the area
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it's a great idea to go but yes I I'm
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it's it's very basically right now the
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only reason i would not go to VidCon is
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if like WWDC is the first or second week
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of june because then it's like I'm not
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gonna be in California for three weeks
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right this is a too big of a gap to
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their out if it's two weeks to allow do
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it but past that I wouldn't do it so
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yeah I just want to go plus i know that
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this year a 20-17 there is VidCon Europe
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the first time i think is in Amsterdam
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who and I mean I'll see what them from
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the information for that is I might like
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to go but I want to go to VidCon prime
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like I want to go to the US one that's a
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good that's a good name for a I know
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that they announce this year that
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they're doing vid cons works the other
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one you're an Australia
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yeah and I'm trying what city is in
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Australia i'm not sure but VidCon prime
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might be a good name for the one in LA
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because I think that's there's no way
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that's not always going to be the
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biggest it is in the heart of LA with
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the whole of the entertainment industry
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around it and YouTube is now solidly in
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the middle of the entertainment industry
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so you just have the largest number
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people who could go there and would be
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motivated to go there are within a 30
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minute drive of where it's gonna be you
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know it's always gonna be huge
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at least for this year everyone that
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would go from Europe and frustrated
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we're still gonna go to LA anyway
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yeah maybe like if you go if you're a
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European creator and you go to VidCon
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every year
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you're not gonna be like I don't need to
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go see I'll just wait for it to be a
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monster down if you're still gonna go
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because that's what you do right and
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because you don't know what Europe is
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going to be like this I feel like it
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this year is still worth me going and
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I'm just interested in seeing it I'm
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interested in learning about it like i
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just wanna experience it like even from
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you telling me about last year before i
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had any desire to be a youtuber I wanted
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it's like the wetness the explanations
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it was the distinct sounds incredible in
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all the right and wrong ways like I just
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want to experience this bananas think
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you know it is very big
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there are lots of people that is it is
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very overwhelming a you at all likely to
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go again i don't know i mean this is
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this to me is hard to answer it in no
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small part because I'm feeling like food
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contact it's already on sale like I was
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just add VidCon I was just there like
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this this is this is my feeling of a
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better but yeah for me with this kind of
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stuff like I don't go don't go to a lot
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of conferences i don't like traveling
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very much and i think this is always
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this is going to boil down to me with an
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entire dependency on wonder what is
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everything else that is occurring this
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summer that relates to my life and and
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so if there is a way that VidCon works i
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might go to VidCon but i think it is
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very likely that depending on what my
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travel plans are the summer like I'm i
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would not go to VidCon but i don't know
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like if it works I might go if it
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doesn't work obviously i won't go but
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it's like my
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business is not necessarily VidCon
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focused like I'm not really in that
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Hollywood industry and I wouldn't go for
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fan reasons either so it's just like
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it's a big justification for me to to
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fly all over the way to California when
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I find it's such an unpleasant thing to
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saying like it's not something that I
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would build my calendar around whereas i
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know there are lots of people who like
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VidCon is the event in the year and it
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makes total sense that they would like
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plan their entire summers around that
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but that that is not the way my business
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work so I'm much more wishy-washy about
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it then otherwise I'll figure it out you
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know closer to the closer to the summer
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if a calm was in july i wouldn't be even
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thinking about this
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yeah it's just because it's in the same
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month probably even the same two weeks
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i'm already in california right yeah
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like it to me it kind of feels like a
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little bit of a no-brainer really is it
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as a business decision to do this like
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if I get one thing worthwhile of this
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experience that's worth it
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yeah i think it makes so i think it
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makes total sense for you like you are
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it seems to me like you're really
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enjoying doing the youtube channel i i i
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i would have a hard time imagining a
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scenario where you are not still
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vlogging by the summer
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yep my kids I think that's as guaranteed
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as a thing can possibly be
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or at least making YouTube videos yeah
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ma even YouTube videos of something
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together
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yeah that's right those videos will be
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here you're embarrassing first 1i me
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when you have an entirely when you just
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switch to pure tech reviews right that's
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like that's like oh like you through the
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flogging thing became tech reviews you
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never know i like that so maybe right
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now because it could totally beat but
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no-brainer like it's it's obvious that
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you should do it and I'm glad to hear
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that you got a ticket and i think the
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the Creator track ticket is probably the
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best return on investment you're going
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as far as tickets go like the industry
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ticket i think the answer to that one is
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if you're if you if you have any doubt
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about the industry ticket the industry
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ticket is not for you right they get so
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you just know what the industry ticket
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is for people in the industry whose
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businesses are paying them to go do a
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thing like if that's not you
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the Creator ticket is probably what you
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want if you're making YouTube videos
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like you are and you want to learn more
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about it you know you want to maybe make
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some contacts and then I forget what the
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other ones but like the sort of the fan
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level community haha yeah your favorite
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how could I forget yes the community
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ticket is the you do not have a youtube
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channel you probably don't have any
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interest in starting a YouTube channel
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but you want to go and see creators that
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you like you also want to experience the
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madness and the craziness that is VidCon
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tell you why I know that I shouldn't buy
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the community ticket
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why one of the things that the community
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take it promotes they get you access to
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is the VidCon prom is a prom to VidCon
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prom yeah huh
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that's why I know I shouldn't get the
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community to get think I'm to alter prom
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you're not going to take me to the prom
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and make if you wanna I don't wanna
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