Cortex

00:00:00 ◼   ► so I just got back very recently from a [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► trip to Atlanta as part of the pan [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► addict and there was something very [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► different about this year's trip to last [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► year's trip and this year's trip was [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► very different because I met lots of [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► cortex pants a people who had so many [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► people didn't happen last year that came [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► up to us and said that they found out [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► about the panic because of cortex and I [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► know cortex wasn't around the first time [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► but I didn't have time before like all [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► we found out about panic because of X [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► show though there are lots of people [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► that listen to cortex and then went over [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► and and realize the beauty of the pen [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► life and there were i saw i think at [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► least three cortex related shirts blue [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► very nice including the first gray [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► hurley shirt which was amazing how it [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► got there in time so on the first day of [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► the show and like so basically there was [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► I was helping out Brad and his company [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► knocking selling their pain cases like [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► it was like a tradeshow type thing you'd [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► call it and I saw somebody walk in to [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► the room and they had a great early show [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► on and I i basically vaulted the table [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► and lady's name was andrea and she told [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► me that she was watching like the [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► tracking and she was it just arrived [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► before they were going to be leaving for [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► the flight because she like really [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► wanted it to arrive because it was going [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► to be arriving on the same day right and [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► yeah I was over the moon is the first [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► one I'd even seen because mine hadn't [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► arrived yet [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► that's fantastic and it was it was great [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► and I saw a cup i saw i think at least [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► two monkey brain shirts and see greater [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► whole spectrum representing at the show [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► so it was it was pretty awesome and it [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► was really nice to to meet people that [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► found out about the panic from from [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► cortex that that was a real nice little [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► thing that happened that's one of those [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► things where if you're listening to us [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► talking right now [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► you already know if your app in person [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► yeah and then you're probably super [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► excited to discover that there is a [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► podcast entirely devoted to your [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► obsession so go check out the pan addict [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► this the first I'm hearing about it if [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► you know your pen person like this is [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► this is for you this is what's great [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► about the internet like there's [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► something for everyone [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► and Mike just happens to be part of the [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► pen nerd Kingdom today I realized the [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► impact that you and the show have had on [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► the way that I work i learned a very [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► valuable lesson today [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► oh where did you learn so i have [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► recently switched over to using a [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► different accounting software I'm using [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► one of those online accounting things [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► that like pulls in your transactions and [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► you reconcile and stuff as opposed to [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► what i was doing previously which was [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► entering manually all my transactions [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► into my accounts own system right right [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► so I moved over to the online system [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► because it looked like it was easier you [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► just it pulls in the transactions for [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► you and then you have to just have a few [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► buttons to say what's what but i have [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► had some problems with this in that [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► there i cannot get the the balances to [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► match up [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► who so there is a discrepancy between [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► transactions being pulled in and what my [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► bank says right and I could try to work [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► out and I couldn't work it out and sat [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► down today I was like put roll up my [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► sleeves and was like today is the day [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► where i find this error i started [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► working on it it got worse [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► uh-huh and I thought I know what I'll do [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► I open mail email my accountant was like [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► how much money you need to give you to [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► fix this and I was like this is what [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► gray has done for me i was just looking [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► I have this problem is like I can't do [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► it like what do I need to do to get you [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► to do it and he's like semi all this [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► documentation so I sent him a bunch of [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► stuff and now hopefully there are people [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► somewhere working on this problem for me [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► and they're gonna fix it for me it's a [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► nice relief isn't it it's amazing i am [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► doomed [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► I feel so much better and I even checked [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► off in OmniFocus fix the problems like [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► it's going to be fixed now I really need [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► to have to worry about it from my [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► perspective it's fixed it's fixed enough [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► it's someone else's problem now [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► yeah this is a we talked about this [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► awhile back but but definitely the [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► advice of bring on an accountant as soon [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► as you can is something that everybody [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► should follow it was one of the first [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► things that I did when I when I set up [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► the company i'm not even before I was [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► fully self employed and just as soon as [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► I set up this thing that was meant to be [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► serious i was like i just got an account [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► straightaway but now it's like I just [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► don't want to deal with anything related [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► to this stuff so if somebody could just [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► do it for me that'd be great and once [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► they fix this problem we're gonna be [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► like how much money would it cost for [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► this to be done every month for me [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► yeah like that I never touch this my [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► current situation with my accountants is [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► that I used to think oh how can people [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► live like this but now I'm one of these [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► people which is like okay I since I have [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► to do some money transfers with my [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► business like I'm aware of the bank [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► balances in a vague way but I do know [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► accounting at all until the end of the [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► year and it's like here you go guys [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► enjoy the last 12 months of my bank [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► statements and this dropbox folder [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► called receipts that I've been saving [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► random stuff into I have the same one [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► right over the course of an entire year [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► right all unlabeled our underlord hit in [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► any way is like you know what I know [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► this is going to cost a small fortune to [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► do but you know what [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► here you go guys like I what we will [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► this is how commerce works like I don't [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► want to do with thing i will pay you to [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► do the thing the value of my time to not [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► do the thing is greater than the amount [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► that i am paying you so like everybody [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► wins [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► but I you know years ago me would have [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► been appalled to see this folder called [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► receipts that I have now which is just [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► an ultimate crap box of everything [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► because I'm feeling good about maybe [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► giving somebody this job to do because i [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► have just cancelled my co-working [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► membership [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► oh really yeah I've not been there this [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► year [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► hmm well that's that's a good reason to [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► cancel and i was paying a hundred and [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► twenty pounds a month for Lou and I've [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► just realized that one of the things [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► that I thought that the year of less was [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► going to do for me you know like my off [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► week students give me the time to go to [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► my co-working space for at least two [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► days when we can one day the next week [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► who what I've done is start fitting in [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► lots of lunches with friends and you [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► know colleagues during this period of [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► time which is much better than go to the [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► co-working space [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► so i guess i'm just not going there so i [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► decided to cancel it and I've gotta say [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► I was really pleased with the process i [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► emailed them and was like can I pulls [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► this council this and then it was just [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► cancelled immediately and I was like [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► that's how you do it [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► don't don't make me jump through hoops [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► yeah you know justjust counts all the [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► membership and and I system thank you [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► for doing this like if I and I mean this [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► like if I will ever want this again I'm [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► going back to them now because they just [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► didn't cause me hassle so i was very [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► happy about that so it was a great space [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► and i loved it and it was really good [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► it's very flexible but if you're not [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► going there then one must spend the [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► money on ya and then that's just a just [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► a business expense for absolutely no [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► purpose that's no good [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► and there are so many places around the [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► areas that i was in that if I really [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► wanted to just go away and work for a [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► day I could find somewhere I could just [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► go to a coffee shop like it wouldn't be [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► an issue [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► yeah jumping back for a second though [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► when did you officially sign up for the [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► year of less aegis you just threw that [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► out real casually like you've always [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► been on board with this too but I don't [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► remember any point where you are [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► officially signing up for the year of [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► class as well [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► well I mean in our year of less [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► discussions I've been mentioning my off [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► week right [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► so for me that is actually part of the [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► year of less which is I found two days [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► every two weeks that were completely [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► open [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► whoo and I've been filling them with [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► things that i'm finding fun to do even [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► like a little podcast things but they're [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► fun things not work things who so it's [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► been good and I've been enjoying it [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► no I'm very glad to hear that Mike this [TS]

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00:08:20 ◼   ► around the finances the invoicing part [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► let me tell you a story so to record [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► this last Friday was the end of the [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► month and the end of the month means [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► lots of invoices need to be sent so i [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► sat down on friday as i always do and I [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► open up freshbooks and open up our [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► spreadsheets and I went to town and in [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► 15 minutes I had like 30 invoices sent [TS]

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00:10:11 ◼   ► alright so let's have an update on gray [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► hiring mm so the last time we spoke I [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► think it was very much left in a i'm [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► going to change my life and I'm going to [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► hire someone is that is that how we left [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► it and I don't think that's how i would [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► freeze anything that was kinda like that [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► i didn't get any cv's which I was very [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► surprised about [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► I didn't get any well my assistant sent [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► me a message like why the hell my horse [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► i'm getting all of these series from and [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► the system works known to me that was [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► about as well as like actually this is [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► great like cortex listeners are [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► responsible listeners think they're [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► using of the contact form on my website [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► they're not bothering like it's not a [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► joke right [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► like yeah i would like to thank everyone [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► that realized there was no point in [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► sending it to [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► because there really wasn't any point [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► because I wouldn't have done anything [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► with it i would just read your CV and [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► you don't be doing that like I would [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► have just read it and and looked at it [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► and thought about it [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► sending it to grace system was the best [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► move yes and I would like to thank [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► everyone who sent in their job [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► application i have looked at none of [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► yep because the system is not setup yet [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► he weren't really supposed to reach out [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► yet like I wasn't I wasn't ready for you [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► yet and we will I say bravo to everyone [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► that did seize the day I mean now I'm [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► making a joke like if I was in that [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► position of wanting to do this kind of [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► thing and heard this you would have [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► gotten my CV because why not you even [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► gonna look at it you're just going to be [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► in it and when you eventually put out [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► the process of hiring you can apply [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► again [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► seize the day great see the gray no no I [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► don't know why I said that I reject that [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► statement there will be no seasoning of [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► the grey I do not like this [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► I've sees the gray do not like this one [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► of them [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► alright so what's going on then at house [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► how's this process progressed [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► ok so here is here is the thing listener [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► where we're going to talk a little bit [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► about what I have been up to [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► I've been preparing a little bit for [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► this cortex episode which I usually just [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► leave in the hands of Mikael echo Mike [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► just figure something out i'll shut up [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► and talk about it but this time i was [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► like i think i actually need to try to [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► organize what I've been up to us that I [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► have something to show Mike and so that [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► we can talk about it but this [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► conversation i think is necessarily [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► going to be partly mixed in with a kind [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► of mini cortex book club which relates [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► to a book called who the a method for [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► hiring but Jeff smarts listeners Mike [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► just made a sad sound i started reading [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► this book i don't know like a week ago [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► and I message Mike and said oh hey Mike [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► you might want to read this maybe this [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► will be like a little cortex book club [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► because i'm going to go through this [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► book over the next few days and and [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► related to what I am working [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► on and Mike and I have not discussed it [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► at all since that point other than the [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► fact that i know mike has read it and I [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► think that sound is is not favorable [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► from where do you find these things [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► where they come from this is a nightmare [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► of a book this thing if it was terrific [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► the place I find these is I have an [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► enormous txt file called books to read [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► that I make a little note about why they [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► were entered in on the list at some [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► point and so at some stage past me wrote [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► down who book and then in brackets [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► related to hiring and I have no idea why [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► or when passed me wrote this down [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► I just knew whenever I would review that [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► list of like Oh someday if future me [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► ever needs it past me has written down [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► in a book about hiring and so since that [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► was just there last week when i was [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► getting serious to think about trying to [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► bring more people on board I thought oh [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► passed me broke this thing down so i'm [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► going to read it [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► the answer is I have no idea really [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► where it came from other than I just [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► have a list of books some of which have [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► notes to future me about when they might [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► be useful to read so these [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► who-knows-where book recommendations [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► come from they just appear Mike I didn't [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► like this one at all [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► mm-hmm at least it was short it was like [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► four and a half hours [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► yes it was a it was a business book that [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► was very short i read it over the space [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► of an hour on a Saturday and then I took [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► a flight to and back from the continent [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► and i finished in that time so i think [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► it was like three hours in total to read [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► is very short which is a virtue in the [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► business book world but I bring this up [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► now simply because i think this book is [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► going to be kind of mixed in with what [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► has been going on so if this is for the [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► listeners a sort of cortex business book [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► club [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► yeah there was a book that was red i [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► just want to say about my way of this [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► book like I also expressed many bad [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► feelings the e-myth an email was [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► entertaining in its terribleness mm this [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► book was just boring and terrible [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► which is a worse mix I really didn't [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► like this one can I just say like what [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► we're talking about the book one of the [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► things that I found the most egregious [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► about this audiobook em they're [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► sometimes it's there are three instances [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► in the book where the narrator of the [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► book reads a quote from someone who [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► there are 23 reads quotes from people [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► that English when he is an American guy [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► and he puts on english accents haha when [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► he reads the quotas it was a bad [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► decision do don't do that and there was [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► also a quote from a Colombian person and [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► he puts on a hey gringo type accent and [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► it is so bad i don't know what he does [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► it it just doesn't make sense to me why [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► does it like I can't think of any reason [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► why you would need to put on an accent I [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► feel like he couldn't help it right they [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► get you started [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► is the narrator of the book also the [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► author of the book i feel like the [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► answer has to be s after you've [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► described this to me [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► no actually it was narrated by somebody [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► else patrick smaller and why they hired [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► him or let him do whatever it was he [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► thought he was a good idea to do but he [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► did it anyway I mean it thinking about [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► it for a second i would expect that if [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► it was a novel like if you're reading a [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► novel in a character has an accent I [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► would expect the narrator to put on that [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► accent institutions it seems almost [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► inappropriate in a business book [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► pointless because he doesn't have any [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► character original American accent when [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► he reads quotes from from American [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► people he just does it with the English [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► person the Colombian person [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► mhm fantastic fantastic while we are [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► just discussing this audiobook briefly i [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► have to say Mike that i think i know i'm [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► not going to change your behavior on [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► this but I think you are making a [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► terrible decision listening in audio [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► form to these business books that i [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► recommend is I think a key way to [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► survive the kind of writing that you [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► find in most business books while also [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► extracting the value to be had in them [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► comes from learning how to get through [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► them very quickly because one of the [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► problem [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► what i have is i have to listen to the [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► lists right you have to listen to the [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► lists there are a few points that i [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► highlighted in here or just for the show [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► was like oh look pointless antecdotes [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► right and there's just so much in these [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► books that if you're reading it you can [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► jump ahead or skim or like with this [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► book III basically floated over say the [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► middle third of it because I recognize [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► immediately that this was just not [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► really useful in any in any way shape or [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► form but if you are listening to it you [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► have to have every single word enter [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► your brain and so I just I don't think [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► this is the way to go with business [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► books like if we're going to continue [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► the business book club and we're going [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► to continue recommending books to you I [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► like I worry for your sanity a year down [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► the line if you continue to listen to [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► that because what's gonna happen when I [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► recommend something that's like 16 hours [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► long and you listen to the whole thing [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► you're gonna lose your mind [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► yeah I i think i'm going to try and make [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► a book by book decision like creativity [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► inc i wanted the audio book because it [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► was more its there's a lot of story in [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► there but this one i didn't need the [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► audiobook for this one you didn't get [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► the others because i was actually [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► skipping the audiobook I've been perfect [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► just get me out of this section this is [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► horrific I don't need this and this one [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► also suffers from all of the problems [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► that all of these types of books is like [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► a ton of statistics and figures that are [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► thrown out that you just have to accept [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► the true or not really and just keep [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► moving on yeah it's like this is like [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► all we in ninety percent of people have [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► this problem like how how did you get to [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► this and also so much of these books [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► just focused on naturally they're just [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► tools to sell this company's processes [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► yeah of course they want you to come on [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► by what they're selling [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► yeah but that the whole kind of overall [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► thing about this book is the a player [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► that's what they talked about like [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► hiring the right person basic right so i [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► can see why you'd want to read it [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► there are a couple of interest in parts [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► in this book that we might get to a [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► little bit later on I can see how [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► someone could extract some use from this [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► but it really for me was just like three [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► sentences and look that will be [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► ok so let's talk about this then [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► ok so we discussed last time i'm looking [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► to bring someone on board for all of the [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► various reasons that we mentioned [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► particularly some health concerns and a [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► few other things and just like I need [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► more help with what I'm doing I'm [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► reaching the point also just with like [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► to podcasts and the youtube channel it's [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► like that it is useful for me to [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► structure this in a more useful way so [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► I've been thinking about it a lot and [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► this book who combined with also the [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► insanity of emails revisited I feel like [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► okay taking the useful parts of both of [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► these books has really helped me clarify [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► my thinking process about this and [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► helped me move forward a little bit so [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► here's what's going on [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► we discussed previously this idea from [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► mammoth revisited about right out your [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► company as though you don't exist right [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► out all of the the jobs that need to be [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► done as though you have some huge [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► company you're not a part of it and [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► there's just a bunch of employees [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► yeah so all of the jobs going to be done [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► and then assign them to like to the [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► imaginary people the roles that would [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► need to be filled to to do the work [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► right so like marketing manager and [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► production manager and that kind of [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► thing for you I guess right that that's [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► exactly right now I i had sort of done [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► this in the past but i always found it [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► at a like it was useful but a bit like [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► an actionable or yeah i think when you [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► would have done this though you would [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► have very much been in the mindset of [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► just working out how much you need to do [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► as opposed to ever thinking that you [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► were going to give these jobs to someone [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► yeah they're there was a there was a [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► lack of externalizing about this and so [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► I had done it but I hadn't actually even [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► bothered to kind of keep any of the [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► writing out that I had ever done on [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► these things like it was just not super [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► actionable but the idea was very [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► valuable now the extractable valuable [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► idea in this book [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► who [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► comes comes like many of these books [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► right away right that's right at the [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► front you know there's like an [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► introductory chapter of nonsense and [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► they're like in almost every single one [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► of these books like chapter 2 has almost [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► everything that you're going to get out [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► of it and that was the case with this [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► one and what this book lays out is a [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► format for which you can write a useful [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► job description so it lays out this [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► thing like here is how you can write [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► down on a piece of paper a job [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► description that can also work as a way [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► to evaluate whether or not the person [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► who was working for you is working out [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► and I felt like okay well this is a [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► really interesting this is a really [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► interesting idea because previously just [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► thinking about job descriptions you know [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► it makes me think of like when i applied [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► as a teacher or you know any of the work [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► that I've ever had the job description [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► is like a piece of paper that you see [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► once and then you never see it again [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► ever and get me just you know it's like [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► this irrelevant thing and so I had this [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► little outline now like okay here's how [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► to formulate a job description and that [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► all of a sudden clicked in my mind like [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► okay I can sit down now and thinking [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► about how i am going to structure the [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► job descriptions feeds into how do i [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► need to separate out my company into a [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► bunch of jobs and separating out upon my [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► company into a bunch of jobs also then [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► clarifies what is the job description of [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► each of these and so I had this [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► surprising afternoon it was a Sunday [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► afternoon i read the first two chapters [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► of this book and everything's seem like [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► a kind of fell into place and I sat down [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► and I wrote out a kind of basic [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► description of the company that I run [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► and I wrote out a basic idea for some of [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► the jobs that I want and it was a really [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► interesting afternoon because though on [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► this podcast we have sort of jokingly [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► referred to this idea that like oh my [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► can I talk to each other as CEO to CEO [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► and you have to think about yourself as [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► the CEO is separate from the person [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► who's working in the job and like all of [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► this kind of stuff I had this feeling [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► after [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► that afternoon of like oh I think I [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► really was a CEO today I think this is [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► the first day i actually was doing the [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► kinds of things that a CEO would really [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► do sitting down very seriously very [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► formally structuring out the company and [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► structuring out some job descriptions [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► for people who were going to maybe work [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► in that company even though sometimes [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► they are me so I have a have a folder of [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► work to share with you Mike [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► wow are you interested to sing yeah very [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► much so what I'm sending you is some of [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► the stuff that i did and now there's two [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► main things in in my life here right [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► like i have the podcasts and I have the [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► YouTube channels and i have since we [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► last spoke made some progress towards [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► helping out with the podcast [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► particularly hello Internet podcast and [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► i am going to credit it in no small part [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► to like thinking about this in a very [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► formal way so i actually wrote out the [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► the podcast as though it was a kind of [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► separate company that produces the work [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► that I am doing so if you take a look [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► you see I actually have a little kind of [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► mind map flowchart of what the hello [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► internet company looks like with various [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► jobs to be done what I was thinking is I [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► have these two areas of my life one of [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► which is like the dominant big one which [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► is the youtube videos like that is the [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► much harder much more difficult problem [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► for me to solve which we will get to but [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► there is an easier problem which relates [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► to bringing on some help with the hello [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► Internet podcast i do a bunch of edits [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► on the hello Internet podcast there's [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► like a ton of back and work that happens [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► with that podcast and so I kind of felt [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► like okay let me try to start with hello [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► internet first so that if i do anything [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► dumb or if I make any mistakes with this [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► or like just it's an easier conceptual [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► problem to bring on someone to help with [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► hello internet and also quite frankly [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► it's lower stakes like if something goes [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► terribly wrong with hello internet i [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► would much rather have that happen then [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► have something go terribly wrong with [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► the video production like I can [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► ultimately kind of fix the hello [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► internet problem much more easier than I [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► could the the YouTube problem it like [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► you know for example something happens [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► in the audio it can be repaired and it [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► was just you know people can get the new [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► version right that's not what happens in [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► YouTube you know you've spoken about [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► this on hello enter in the past i [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► believe once the video is up that's it [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► but yes nothing you can do [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► yeah there's nothing i can do and and [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► also looks like if something gets [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► uploaded you know it's going out to [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► literally millions of people maybe like [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► it's a bigger scale mistake as big as [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► careful going to look for a bigger scale [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► problem at something dumb or something [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► just doesn't work out right or anything [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► so I wrote this out and I was thinking [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► about how in my process like what like [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► what is my role here and the thing that [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► I kind of settled on is I'm trying to [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► think of myself as like the audio [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► director for the podcasts em in some [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► sense of like okay I can work with other [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► people who helped produce this and so I [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► wanted to bring someone on who would [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► help with parts of the process of making [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► a hello Internet podcast so prior to [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► this the structure was basically i did [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► three cuts of the podcast the first cut [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► was for content to just remove all kinds [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► of boring stuff that doesn't that [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► shouldn't go in the final show like and [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► we record just a ton of stuff and not [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► all of it always makes it in i would do [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► a second super intense kind of like [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► tightening everything as much as [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► possible trying to remove gaps trying to [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► clean up little audio mistakes I just [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► doing a ton and ton of little edits [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► there and then I would do a final listen [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► through and building of show notes like [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► i was doing kind of three runs [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► and so structuring this and thinking it [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► through I realized okay i can bring on [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► someone to help with that middle edit of [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► the podcast that someone can help me [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► with that because it's a huge amount of [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► work and it also doesn't necessarily [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► have the same quality of like well we [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► talked about a thing and we don't want [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► it in the final show and like it's our [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► decision just to cut that like that is a [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► decision that ultimately i have to be [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► making that like cannot be delegated to [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► somebody else but the middle section [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► totally can be delegated to somebody [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► else but for the moment since since i'm [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► all new to this right on this is I'm [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► very unused to bringing people on the [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► idea is that I'm just going to be [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► listening to the work that has been done [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► in the second cut and giving any [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► feedback as is necessary and that kind [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► of mirrors our working relationship [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► which is like me and you have spoken [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► about this and and what way both feel [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► that we're getting closer to the point [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► where you don't need to to have an edit [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► run on the show right kind of think [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► we're there yet because you know I'm [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► still tweaking things in a way that I [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► think makes sense for both of us but I [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► think we're both understanding our [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► process a lot more and I think we're [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► getting to the point where you wouldn't [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► have to do it if you didn't want to [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► yes I was going to say Mike that you are [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► the very person who has given me [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► confidence that this kind of thing can [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► even happen success because precisely [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► this because when we when we first [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► started with the show you would hand me [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► back in episode and i would add quite a [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► lot of cuts to it [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► I I think that's fair to say like the [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► first anyone's I was like mm I'm gonna [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► take out a whole lot more then then has [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► been done the first time and and over [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► time working together the two of us we [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► are now at the stage where i find myself [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► when I'm doing the final listen through [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► cortex not changing a lot or even some [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► of the changes that I make our I think [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► are they that significance [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► I'm not sure that they are so like I'll [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► do them because I prefer it but if you [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► went out this way like whatever [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► yeah it would be fine it wouldn't be any [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► disaster as doing cortex together [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► has been an interesting learning [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► experience for me in this like let's go [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► back and forth with another person like [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► we can talk to each other about what do [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► we want is a thing and like so I think [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► that's part of why if you know if you [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► like me to put more than him out there [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► isn't a cortex chopped because we have [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► always had a different kind of working [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► relationship then I guess you've had in [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► some of your upper works right [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► oh yeah and on the cortex 1 i'm just the [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► talent right yeah you want [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► yeah i have just rolling with you [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► playback airing sunglasses and use ready [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► to roll you know yeah you know sometimes [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► you have to knock on the trailer door to [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► get me to come out at the right time to [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► do the recording mr. gray we're ready [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► for you now [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► yeah most of it is just out of my hands [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► i just show up on the show notes you [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► know look at this isn't that nice [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► ok i'll read my lines and then I go back [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► but yeah so doing this with you over [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► over this time has let me feel like okay [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► i can i can take what has happened to [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► with cortex and like scale it up to the [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► next level with this thing that is now [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► much more my responsibility then then [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► cortex is like right now the way it is i [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► am the backend of hello internet like I [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► do all the editing i do all of the [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► publishing and the promoting of it i [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► like on social media and all of that [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► stuff and so this is part of what i've [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► been doing here is like okay I think I [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► see a place where an audio editor can [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► come in and then it was also in this [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► separation of tasks that I that I [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► realized something which was I've always [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► had this kind of conversation with my [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► wife when I talked about putting up a [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► hello Internet episode that I was always [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► aware that on the day when I would do [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► the kind of final preparations and [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► getting ready to put it up I was always [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► surprised by how long it actually took [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► to go from export final mp3 2 episode is [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► live promoted everywhere discussion is [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► up it's all ready to go [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► they just get caught me by surprise how [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► long it always took and so this was one [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► of these cases where I thought okay when [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► I was making this chart i was thinking [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► of this in terms of well there's this [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► kind [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► the distribution side to this business [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► as well that in my mind I was always [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► kind of rounding off as oh it's not much [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► work it's very easy for me to do i can [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► just do this really quickly right but [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► thinking about what i got from that book [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► about who and thinking about the e-myth [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► stuff and like okay imagine i couldn't [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► do any of it [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► there needs to be essentially a a [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► distribution person and so I was sitting [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► down and writing out here are all of the [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► steps as though I couldn't do anything [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► to take the mp3 file and get it up on [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► youtube get it up in the lips and [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► back-end get out on email campaigns get [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► it up on the radicand promoted on [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► facebook again there are so many more [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► steps to that then you really think of [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► because as listeners will know i'm [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► already quite a checklist person like [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► I've i have long checklist already for [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► all of these kinds of things but it was [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► a whole nother level to sit down and [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► really right out like which boxes need [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► to be ticked in lipson which systems [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► need thumbnails uploaded to them what [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► drop-down boxes four categories need to [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► be selected right like really going [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► through and doing every little step i [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► was absolutely shocked when i took a [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► look at the final checklist and thought [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► I can't believe i was doing all of this [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► and this is the part where it's like [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► okay there is work to be done here and [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► the plan is that my personal assistant [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► is going to take on a lot of the [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► distribution role in this kind of like [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► hello internet company that is like so [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► it's it's like the distribution [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► assistant is the person who is going to [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► help out with a bunch of this stuff it [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► was just a really interesting exercise [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► it's one of these cases where even when [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► you think you are organized and you are [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► on top of things a shift in perspective [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► a little bit of actionable information [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► can really change and bring into focus [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► certain kinds of problems and this is [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► why i had this interesting feeling after [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► this afternoon of like I think this was [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► the first day that I was actually a CEO [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► right of of sitting down writing it out [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► being really specific [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► like what like what needs to happen when [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► and what needs to happen where how do [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► you think that you will be in this [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► scenario do you think that you'll be [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► constantly checking in with people that [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► keeping an eye on things being done [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► what do you think you'll be able to kind [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► of just let it happen [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► the hope is that I'm able to just let it [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► happen then I'm i'm able to just step [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► away from it as much as possible [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► now if you take a look in that folder [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► that i sent you [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► mhm you will see there's a file which is [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► called audio editor hii audio editor [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► yep so open that up this episode of [TS]

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00:37:47 ◼   ► show and all of real afm ok [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► Oh mission ok so now this is where i [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► have followed the outline in the who [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► book huh of what a job description is [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► right and so there's there's a mission [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► which is like the one sentence [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► description of what the job is for and [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► then below that there are four bullet [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► points of here are the outcomes that [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► this person is supposed to produce [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► there's also the book also recommends [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► this thing about like qualities of the [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► bottom which i think is a little bit of [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► BS but I've just done it for the sake of [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► completeness for now but the thing that [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► I have done here is when i was writing [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► out this job description [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► I was specific about thinking about this [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► in terms of where is this person going [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► to receive work from and where they [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► going to send it to and so I have I have [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► a note in in the job description about [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► how like when you are done with your job [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► the next step is to send it to the [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► distribution assistant like you know [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► don't send it to me right I shouldn't be [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► involved in this really like when the [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► when the final exporting is done you [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► send it to that person and then I've [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► written up another job description which [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► is for this distribution assistant right [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► and then this is what they should do [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► when they receive the final audio file [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► from the audio editor so if you see what [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► I mean like I am trying as hard as [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► possible to build a thing where I touch [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► it as little as possible [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► this is really good i gotta say like I'm [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► reading through these I mean you know I [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► i want to spill the beans on it all [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► because i'm assuming that this is to be [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► kept private for the time being [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► yeah but there's a lot of things in here [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► about like you know making sure the show [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► is is is kind of kept true to its point [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► you know to be leaving the conversation [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► between friends and basically the idea [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► for the audio editor is to just tighten [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► it up right taking out the arms take out [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► the earth and and basically just master [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► the show to make it but basically how it [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► needs to be before it goes out the door [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► yeah and then the idea as well is that [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► for now i am doing this third edit but [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► they can also do the final round of like [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► okay I'm going to send you the ads and [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► then this stuff can just be plopped in [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► of like okay bleeps and bloops they go [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► in at the appropriate spots here is the [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► opening theme [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► there's a whole other extra level of [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► little stuff that I don't really need to [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► do like I can have somebody else do it [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► but again it was just so interesting [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► realizing how much stuff my brain had [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► filed under the category of not very [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► much like even my own checklists you [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► know I would have a line item which was [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► like add transition sounds and export [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► final version was like well actually [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► that's quite a lot of steps you know for [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► for the final part of the podcast like [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► when you think about it like what is [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► actually involved here how long this is [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► actually take and also if you like me to [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► checking that you didn't ruin anything [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► by a dry nose right yeah choose the [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► longest part right there love ya it's so [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► easy to mess up at the last mile [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► you're like oh I've definitely done that [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► with the podcast sometimes like I'm just [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► going to add this one quick thing and [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► then the the people who listen right at [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► the beginning send you message like you [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► know there's a 10-minute section where [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► the where there's like a fade-in and [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► fade-out over the audio pickup and [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► groups right let me quickly change that [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► as as quickly as i can so this this is [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► all my structure so far with again the [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► smaller of my two projects trying to sit [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► down and formalize and systematize how [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► this works and and again it is really [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► interesting [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► that even though this who booked as [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► listeners might have gathered from our [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► initial description of it has a lot of [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► just garbage in it i found this [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► structure of this outline of how do you [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► write a job description this for me was [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► somehow like the missing piece that I [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► needed to have in my brain about how do [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► i make the org chart actionable how do I [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► make this really serious and how do i [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► how do i really think this through this [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► is part of what i have been up to and i [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► have taken on someone who is helping [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► with the second edits and we are [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► recording this episode on a thursday and [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► friday tomorrow if everything goes right [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► should be the first test of this little [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► system of i have had an audio editor [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► help me with two parts and also the [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► first test of having my assistant act as [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► the distribution assistant and do a lot [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► of the public-facing sharing of it and [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► uploading to the backend systems and all [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► of that kind of stuff so it hasn't [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► happened yet like the trigger hasn't [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► been fully pulled but I am interested to [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► see how this goes as the first run of a [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► thing where i am trying to remove myself [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► as much as possible the distribution [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► assistant that job had already been [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► filled by someone you already working [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► with right you just basically gave more [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► tasks to your personal assistant who [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► you'd be vetted and worked with for [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► years at this point exactly right like I [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► wasn't bringing on anybody knew there [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► that you did bring on somebody new for [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► the audio editing and it's interesting [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► because the the way that this person [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► came to use is also grow up in the whole [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► book when they're talking about finding [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► people to hire one of the things they [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► say is who do the people that you work [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► with recommend exactly this person came [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► to you from a recommendation from me [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► exactly everywhere we were talking about [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► this i was discussing how I wanted to [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► bring someone to help hello internet [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► this is before i came across the whole [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► book and we were just kind of chatting [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► and you literally said to me oh I think [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► I might know exactly who you need [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► click great but isn't that isn't that [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► perfect so none of the jobs that are [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► needed for the hello Internet [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► Corporation have had to go out to open [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► application right right so i think now [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► we should turn our attention to gray [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► industries right well that's why once [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► again the hello internet thing was like [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► this interesting test case where i was [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► able to kind of play around with it so [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► far things are going well but there is a [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► very difficult thing that hasn't [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► happened yet and that's the like the [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► next stage of of scaling it up to the [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► cgpgrey youtube channel so when you go [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► to the big leagues [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► it is when you go to the big leagues [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► because it's like it is a process right [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► where you may be learned some things [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► from cortex and then you applied some of [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► those things to hello internet and now [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► you're able to apply some of those [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► things to do to channel it's like a [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► chain where you're able to test things [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► out on smaller scales until you take [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► what you've learned and apply that to [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► the the the final yeah and this has been [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► a very conscious process on my art so [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► far like okay do this do this with hello [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► internet that's also partly why i like [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► tomorrow is going to be the test of a [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► bunch of this stuff tomorrow when we're [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► recording as it is and again like I'm [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► sure there are things that i will [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► realize in that process that then it's [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► like ok do this before you do some of [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► the big stuff with the youtube channel [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► so you can try to avoid problems before [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► they actually happen on the larger scale [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► alright so we can talk a little bit [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► about the the gray industries flow chart [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► here for making a video and this is [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► really interesting to break it out cuz [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► we talked about this a little bit last [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► time but it was very different sitting [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► down and so i have i have my company [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► listed out and then I am head of [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► production of this company and then I [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► was trying to divide that down into like [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► what are all the possible roles and [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► again kind of thinking like when we read [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► creativity inc where they talk about you [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► know this is the director and they're [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► working with these these teams i was [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► trying to think about ok what are all of [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► the various roles that go into [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► producing a video and imagining myself [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► as like if i could only be the producer [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► of this thing [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► what are all the roles i need to hire [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► and hits and it's just fun it's fun to [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► kind of see it all written out where [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► it's like okay there needs to be a [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► researcher there needs to be a writer [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► that needs to be an editor there's an [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► illustrator there's an animator which [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► are two separate jobs like we talked [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► about last time his voice recording is [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► audio editing and there's music [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► production and again it was interesting [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► to do this and realize like oh god I [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► used to do all of this you know with the [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► with the exception of the music i used [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► to do all of this on my own so it's [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► weird to think about how i used to fill [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► all of these roles with the exception of [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► music and now thinking about okay [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► imagining these as individual jobs [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► some of them i am still going to do [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► obviously the writing and editing i'm [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► still going to do obviously the voice [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► recording i'm still going to do but now [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► looking at it and thinking okay what is [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► going to happen with the illustrator [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► animator slot and just like with hello [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► internet trying to formalize my thinking [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► in a way of writing out a job [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► description a little bit to think about [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► what what is going to happen here [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► like what what what needs to occur so I [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► had an idea which I still haven't [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► decided if this is like a brilliant idea [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► or if this is a terrible idea [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► great okay yep so I'm thinking about you [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► need to bring on illustrator animator [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► alright how do i need to do that what I [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► ended up doing was I ended up thinking [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► haha i'm going to write a little script [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► something that's brief it's like 250 [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► words that is an announcement of the job [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► and also the job application so I wrote [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► a little supermini thing that's our [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► social mores long love it as i can see a [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► guy with us and the application is to [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► animate the job application [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► yes if you look in that folder that i [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► gave you there's a folder which is [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► called animation application [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► uh-huh and now I'll keep in mind that at [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► this stage is still very rough there's [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► some things in there that i won't be [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► having in the final one probably but I [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► was just writing it out to think about [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► like okay how long is this going to be [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► what's it going to look like and this is [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► my way of trying to solve a fundamental [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► problem because what I'm looking for is [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► like is a person who can reproduce my [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► style and ideally if I can I want to [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► find one person who can do both the [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► asset creation both the illustration and [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► who can also do the animation yep [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► now normally I would think that was a [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► pretty high bar because those are two [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► totally unrelated fields but since my [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► art style is so ridiculously simple i [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► think that i could get lucky and find [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► someone who can do both of them but i am [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► open to the idea that like if this [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► first-round doesn't work i might have to [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► back up and say okay instead of looking [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► for one person who can do both i'm going [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► to look for two people who can work [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► together so here's my thinking there's [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► no reason why you can't find one person [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► because you're one person it's there's [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► gonna be people surely I do i do sort of [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► disagree with that but I hope that [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► you're right i could totally hope that [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► you're right that there's one person who [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► can do it [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► I liked the script is funny I'm just [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► like lost over and it's already funny [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► stuff in there [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► yeah up there there is some part of me [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► which thinks this might be a terrible [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► idea to do it this way but this to me [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► they're like putting out some kind of [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► call for work this this is the like [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► scary new frontier that is the thing [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► that makes it fundamentally different [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► and i'm going to be pulling the trigger [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► on this relatively soon hopefully maybe [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► the day after this episode goes out like [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► i kind of want to force myself into just [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► going ahead and just doing this because [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► i think i have done about as much [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► preparation as I can reasonably expect [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► of thinking through like what do I need [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► and talking to a bunch of people and [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► like I'm reaching the limit [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► of free preparation before just seeing [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► like put out an application [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► see what you get back take it from there [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► i think that's that's where this has to [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► go next [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► I'm really proud of you all thanks Mike [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► I am I you you're doing it right you [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► need to do this and it's scary difficult [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► complicated thing but you do need to do [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► it it's the time it's also it's it's a [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► funny situation to be in because I i [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► think i would actually feel a lot better [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► about it if i was able to offer a full [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► time job right but in some sense i am [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► looking right now for someone who is a [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► freelancer who can just work with me and [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► like maybe over time that will [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► transition into something more but I'm [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► not in a position to be able to say like [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► I generate enough work right now two day [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► to fill 40 hours of animation work a [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► week every week like I'm I'm nowhere [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► near that and so that that's one of the [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► things that in my mind makes this like a [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► funny kind of thing to do it's it's a [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► call for freelancers eat you know even [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► more so more than like a straight-up job [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► application and so that's that's why I [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► do slightly wonder like I wonder how [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► this is gonna go but that's also why I [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► just have to move forward and I just [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► have to do this and just get it out [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► there you got interview people because [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► you can't get everything you need to [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► know from work [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► mm there's more than just what somebody [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► can display to you from their work [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► yeah but something like this i think the [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► vast majority is the work but there are [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► these so-called soft skills right mr. [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► things like communication timeliness [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► working back and forth you know that [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► that kind of thing is is tricky and it [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► does mean that needs to be some kind of [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► interview a little bit that's where the [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► book who was way less useful than [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► anything else [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► thank you may have it has at the end of [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► it this hilarious scheduled for an [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► eight-hour day of interviewing a single [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► person [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► yeah I did wonder if you going to take [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► much of the top grading interview method [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► consideration in I was like what does he [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► do english but this is while actually [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► the funny thing is the part i skip the [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► most of what he created a job [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► description part who and I listened to [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► them the three hours of interview [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► practice [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► yeah this is is one of these cases where [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► there comes a moment in the book where [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► you realize who this book is exactly [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► written for and the answer is we want to [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► sell you on our services to help you [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► find a new CEO for your multi-million [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► dollar company right like yeah here's an [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► interview process that no one in the [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► world would go through unless there was [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► a CEO position on the other side so i [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► found that less than helpful although I [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► do have to admit in terms of of soft [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► skills again like people skills have [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► never been shall we say my core [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► competency which makes the whole idea of [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► trying to hire people like an [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► interesting sociological challenge but [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► they're there were they were some kind [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► of little tips in the end of the book [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► which I picked up on of like okay that's [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► a good idea [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► the funny thing is i would think you [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► would need to interview people for the [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► inverse reason [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► what do you mean you need to interview [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► people to make sure that they can cope [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► with your lack of people skills [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► well yeah you know what Mike you might [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► have a point there [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► it's a reverse interview how would you [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► describe working with me Mike to the [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► people working with gray is is very [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► interesting in so much is that you will [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► have things that need to be done but you [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► also need to understand that they will [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► get done on a undefined schedule that [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► you will have to accept so this is you [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► working with me [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► yes so i will have things I need to be [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► done and I need to sometimes realize [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► that I just have to let go of what i [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► think is the time that is going to get [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► done in MH because it needs to fit [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► around your schedule which you are a lot [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► more protective of who also go ahead [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► Mike it's okay i'm trying to think of [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► what else to say I'm not listening [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► you also need to understand that your [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► ideas [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► maybe vetoed mm and once they are they [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► are did app you're not difficult to work [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► with once you understand the parameters [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► like once people understand that you are [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► difficult to get hold of but you will [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► respond eventually [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► mhm and you don't care for schedules [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► like they will just work around the [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► shows that you need to put into place [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► for your own business and that you can [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► just be very to-the-point and and cut [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► with your responses most people can't [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► understand that then you're very [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► reasonable to work with i think but you [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► need to understand it comes with the [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► parameters that you did the others [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► basically if you can't cope with that [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► like if you can't work that way they [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► can't someone can't work with you [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► because you're not going to change that [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► I don't think at least not very much [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► because that's just how you are [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► mm-hmm [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► so applicant out there that's something [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► that you need to understand and this [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► also actually brings me to a point that [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► I wanted to make to which i think is so [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► important but i don't think that you'll [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► feel it that way so i need to stress it [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► to you ok if you interview someone you [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► cannot interview them on your own you [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► have to have somebody else observing the [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► interview and this comes from my own [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► experience of hiring people great i [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► don't know if you knew that I had this [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► experience but i have hired many people [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► who and i have been in the room for many [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► other people being hired and you have to [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► have somebody there because you need to [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► have somebody to talk to about what just [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► occurred who because I observer to an [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► interview will see things that you will [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► not see because you're busy dealing with [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► the interview and once the interview is [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► done you have nobody to discuss it with [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► at all so I thoroughly recommend that [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► you have if you do conduct any [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► interviews that you have somebody [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► present in that interview process that [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► is not the interviewee and you have to [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► say that is that is a great idea you [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► should write a book on hiring people who [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► have been wasn't mentioned in this book [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► at all [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► and that's a fantastic idea that the the [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► a method for higher includes 75,000 [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► people who are involved in the interview [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► process across 16 different steps which [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► will last seven hours so what they [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► didn't mention that part [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► can I mention one thing from that book [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► that I actually do think was very good [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► and I think it's something you need to [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► consider my the interview process is [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► important please do [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► there's one quote that I really liked [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► like a heart donor and recipient there [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► has to be a match but this is between [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► the culture and the fit of the company [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► or the body of the recipient will reject [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► the organ it's a very strong metaphor [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► but a good one [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► mm I've worked in many teams where [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► somebody has joined the team or new [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► bosses come into play and they don't fit [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► and it destroys everything it just sucks [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► all of the good out of the team and so I [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► think that is a very good point and [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► something always worth considering if [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► this person doesn't seem like they're [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► going to fit the company culture they [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► will destroy everything in the company [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► without meaning to [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► I've seen it happen many many times [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► yeah so actually let's let some just for [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► a moment as i'm not sure we've been [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► super explicit about it but this outline [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► for how to produce a job description and [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► it has these three parts that has the [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► the mission the brief description as the [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► outcomes like here are the deliverables [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► here is a a clear yes know the person [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► did or did not do this kind of list [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► which I really like what really [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► clarifies thinking and at the bottom it [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► it has it has these these qualities of [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► the person and I really when I was [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► reading it I thought I really do think [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► this is kind of BS but the author did [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► convince me through the reading that the [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► the purpose of this is like what you [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► said it is to clarify in your own mind [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► like what do you need from person and [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► and also again to get it down on paper [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► like this is what you're looking for in [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► someone and what I really liked is that [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► you know they're talking about you want [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► to kind of limited to like five at the [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► most qualities that the person has and [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► also to be ranking them in [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► order of importance and so it's it [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► forces you to formalize something and so [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► forth like for example in the [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► description that I wrote for that the [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► hello Internet editor it made me [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► formalize like listen quality of the [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► product matters more to me than the [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► timeliness of it right and and it's like [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► I think that's an important thing to get [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► down on on paper and I think that like [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► maybe that that goes towards helping [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► ensure that there's a match between the [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► person doing the job and and like what i [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► am looking for like that we're both [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► working together that like here is a [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► formalization of what is important to me [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► like is this is this important to you [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► like if you would give you what you're [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► looking for is to always have a [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► guaranteed number of hours at a specific [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► guaranteed number of hours at a specific [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► time of work like well that's actually [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► at the bottom of the list of the things [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► that I want like if if the thing is [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► going to take a while but it will be [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► significantly better like I want that to [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► happen but that can mean like oh maybe [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► sometimes some shows take a huge amount [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► of time to edit in an unexpected manner [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► again I'm still just all new to this [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► like this is me having this theoretical [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► discussion as a self-employed person at [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► the very beginning stages of trying to [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► formally take on more people to help but [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► i thought like okay this this is a thing [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► worth trying to write out at least [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► trying to think about much more than i [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► would have before like think about the [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► fit between you and this other person [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► but it seemed that the other part of [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► this the more important part is it's not [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► just between you and the person because [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► in the system that you're looking to [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► establish you will be having people [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► talking to each other without you being [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► involved right yes and that's where it's [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► much more of a thing you need to [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► consider because when it's employer and [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► employee does the situation is going to [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► be very different [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► there's going to be more in but respect [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► because you're writing the checks then [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► you have people talking to each other [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► and having to work together and share [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► information between each other and rely [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► on each other when you will be hopefully [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► out of the equation so that's another [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► part of the quality part in knowing that [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► you believe that these two people will [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► be able to work together like if you if [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► you find somebody who fits your style [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► right your kind of people skills [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► thanks thanks for the big five a [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► powerful learning the word and you think [TS]

01:01:40 ◼   ► to yourself this person is just like me [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► they will be able to work in the same [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► way that I can [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► that means I might not be able to work [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► together very well another person [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► mm so that the other i think i would [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► feel that you maybe need to go over [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► these qualities too little bit more blue [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► too because York the qualities that you [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► have picked out currently are very [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► functional so you have security [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► attention to detail and timeliness Lou [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► they're not really qualities of a person [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► the qualities of the work that they're [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► doing [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► and I feel like you maybe need to flesh [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► that out with some more flowery stuff [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► yeah but it would like what flowery [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► stuff Mike what do you think I think [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► that it's an easy one but just having in [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► there that somebody needs to have good [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► interpersonal skills who and it is a [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► good communicator who you just need to [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► put those in there so if you talk to [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► somebody and feel that they're not you [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► can point to the job description and say [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► I don't feel like you meet this this [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► role because of this [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► hmm let's say for example you find [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► somebody who has never worked with other [TS]