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Cortex 5: Work Simulator

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0:00:00so in the current trend of great productivity you put outlook another

0:00:04video like 10 week and now we can't start here

0:00:07ok can start in like we have to start with how ungodly hot it is right now so

0:00:13the people that people understand what we're doing for them

0:00:17ok put this into context of people because you wanted to start out the

0:00:24natio but all I can think about is how uncomfortable and sweaty I am right now

0:00:29yeah pretty bad right I don't I don't think the people understand how much

0:00:37hard casting work is hot sweaty work under the best of circumstances usually

0:00:46you're recording in a room and you're trying to isolate that room from sound

0:00:50insulated it becomes very warm anyway they under normal circumstances I know

0:00:57he's take a shower after I finished podcasting because I just feel gross and

0:01:02exhausted and sweaty but today is it's a record high in London temperature my my

0:01:09watch says it's 92 degrees right now where I am and where you well I'm at 93

0:01:16which is when I don't usually deal in that temperatures so it's like 33

0:01:23degrees Celsius but it sounds more impressive when he says 93

0:01:29yes this is one of the very many reasons why the Fahrenheit scale is obviously

0:01:33superior but yes it is way too hot it is way too hot and we are recording the

0:01:40podcast anyway for the people but it might be shorter than normal because I

0:01:47don't know how long we're going we're going to last you at least have air

0:01:51conditioning I'm saying here in the room of all the windows closed the doors

0:01:55closed

0:01:56have no fan or air conditioning so if there is any point I start to

0:02:02hallucinate during the episode I just need you to just bring me back from that

0:02:06I do however we just want to say that when Americans will hear air

0:02:12conditioning they will imagine a nice scenario but that is not all that is not

0:02:18at all what I have right now I have one of those wheels around truly portable

0:02:23air conditioners that I have put in the main room of my house and that is

0:02:27attempting to cool down the the house but it really hasn't I was trying to

0:02:31find a thermometer but I'm willing to bet that even with the air conditioner

0:02:35its it has to be 85 degrees or warmer in the house which is just not not good if

0:02:44not good at all

0:02:45English English homes are just not built to deal with with warm temperatures

0:02:54innocence because they said we hasn't been this hot here in like eight years

0:02:58was the last time we had this English people always talk about how it doesn't

0:03:03make any sense but it does make sense because the summers are always awful

0:03:05every year but everywhere everywhere in England's does Lego will just get right

0:03:12we'll just get right through this and and pretend like each summer is some

0:03:16unique experience but it's always like this is great know now I was my my house

0:03:25set up a little bit more because high temperatures are particularly thing that

0:03:29just i i cant stand my house set up I live on the top floor and where my

0:03:35office is the ceiling is slanted and it has nice big slanted windows that the

0:03:43Sun or is numerically into my office and my bedroom are on the same side of the

0:03:49house so even on mildly sunny days the one half of my house is just way hotter

0:03:57than it can possibly be my apartment that is divided into those those two

0:04:02rooms on one side and in the main room is like down a little hallway on the

0:04:06other side I just feel like I have abandoned that section of the house

0:04:11where there's just a lost cause they're not going in there I just brought

0:04:15everything that I need into the mean

0:04:17my house I have my podcasting here here I have my laptop here everything

0:04:21everything that I thought all that I could possibly need from the bedroom

0:04:24from the office I brought it out in the morning we're just leaving that that's

0:04:29just gone is just it's a it's a lost cause if I can make if I can make a

0:04:35really nerdy analogy my office is as Julia which has fallen to the enemy of

0:04:41heat and I have retreated 2 minutes Jarrett and my main room and barricaded

0:04:47everything against the door to just try to keep the heat out but it is it is not

0:04:51working

0:04:52that's where I am right now I came upstairs I've been working downstairs

0:04:55it's been fine as an even into any windows open for some reason the

0:05:01downstairs of my house is always the perfect temperature it's perfectly warm

0:05:05in the winter and perfectly cool in the summer I never never understand why my

0:05:10front room is the way that it is but it's perfect I came upstairs to record

0:05:14thinking it'd be okay I closed the window here cause I don't want to come

0:05:18in and sat down and within five minutes I have been reduced to a big polymerase

0:05:24I don't I don't really know why my house is built but waited it is but there is

0:05:30some extreme temperature issue so that's so that's where we are now now that

0:05:37we've complained about the heat now we can try to pretend like it the normal

0:05:41show a normal they'll probably much shorter than normal show can we talk

0:05:45about then the last YouTube video you'll ever make because the end so you did put

0:05:53a video another one out like you know we were talking about you posting videos

0:05:58and then you ended up just posting another video

0:06:01the day of the episode came out last week that happened to work out quite

0:06:05nicely that are our last episode ended up being called posting day in which I

0:06:10talked about what I do when I post a video and I had a video to post on that

0:06:13day it was entirely coincidental that was not planned just worked out that way

0:06:19but it was kind of nice so you wouldn't do in my view all I'm gonna BC crypts

0:06:23areas no no we

0:06:26we recorded on Wednesday or not yes and that video was a shockingly fast

0:06:35turnaround because I didn't started until Thursday night so I didn't even

0:06:40know when we were recording our podcast that I was going to have a video but

0:06:43that's that's what ended up happening and this one has now taken the record

0:06:49for the fastest I have ever made a video

0:06:51displacing the previous record holder which was the net neutrality video which

0:06:56think I did from start to finish it was two and a half days maybe three days I

0:07:03think maybe I started on a on a Friday evening and had it up on a Monday that

0:07:07was my previous record did this one feels like like six weeks of work in two

0:07:11days or was it relatively easy to produce compared to other stuff to do I

0:07:16don't know how to say what I'm about to say without sounding kind of like an

0:07:19idiot for more like an airy fairy person but I'm not an airy fairy person let's

0:07:24look at that

0:07:25let's get that straight I wouldn't have much doubt about you but my of my

0:07:29preface to now possibly sounding like I believe in magic

0:07:33I if if you talk to anybody who makes their living in a creative field and I

0:07:46mean created in the broadest of all possible waves that you are making a

0:07:51thing that hasn't been made before and you're going to share it with an

0:07:55audience very often people in creative fields particularly writing will talk

0:08:01about being visited by the Muse where it feels like there is an additional thing

0:08:06that is just helping you along to make this thing that you're making now

0:08:11obviously there isn't any actual additional force that's helping you with

0:08:16the video but it is a useful way to think about it on occasion and this was

0:08:24one of those cases where I started writing the video on Thursday night and

0:08:29it was it was a total being visited by the Muse moment where the rioting just

0:08:35went

0:08:36extraordinarily well the first time and then on the when I went over it you know

0:08:43an hour later I was able to edit it really well and then pull it all

0:08:47together and there were a couple of little places where the story was

0:08:52working out very nicely all of this just fell into place and why that happens

0:08:59sometimes and other times is this is this

0:09:02unknowable thing but when it works it really feels like oh wow there's a

0:09:06little creative muse on my shoulder which is just whispering into my ear all

0:09:10of these great things to do it so that that is entirely the reason why I was

0:09:15able to turn that around so quickly adjust everything went extraordinarily

0:09:20smoothly which is normally the case I understand that like Sarah times where

0:09:28I'm working on something and all black dress for some reason I have received

0:09:33this flash of inspiration I can't quite explain it was different to normal yet

0:09:39even necessarily inspiration there is a friend of mine who also works in the

0:09:45writing the old who have spoken to about this and he writes short passages in the

0:09:51in the same way that I do and he said the same thing that I do that that you

0:09:56can spend two or three weeks writing and rewriting something but thats it is is

0:10:05very strange house some writing sessions are just golden and you can have an hour

0:10:12or two hours that is clearly worth two or three work weeks of abnormal work

0:10:19that is that it's just worth this multiple what you normally do and you

0:10:25want every time you sit down to write to be like that but for whatever reason it

0:10:30just that does not that does not always happen because I'm interested in being

0:10:36who you fishing with my writing boy I would love to have that be every single

0:10:40time

0:10:41but I've never been able to figure out why that happens with this when I just

0:10:46got extraordinarily lucky and over the years I've gotten a little bit better

0:10:52about knowing how to she with the animation if I'm really in a hurry to

0:10:58make it look to make you look ok bye even by doing way less than I normally

0:11:03would and so was those two things combined allowed me to get out so fast

0:11:07little tricks you've learned yeah it's it's just from from paying attention to

0:11:17feedback that people have about the videos and seeing what things people

0:11:20notice or learning ways to make it to squeeze some animation out of similar

0:11:27stuff I don't always do it but when I'm in a rush

0:11:29there's some shortcuts that I can tape where I think I would animate this more

0:11:34if I had more time but I can get it looking fine pretty fast if if I

0:11:39absolutely need to but it but again this is also the case of sometimes I run into

0:11:43a real problem with the animations and that can derail stuff and so this is I

0:11:47just lucked out that I didn't run into any of those kinds of problems there was

0:11:52one of the little things I knew that I wanted in the video is at the very end

0:11:55there's a scene where the the Confederacy surrenders and the flag

0:12:00falls to pieces and it just leaves the white surrender flag on the screen and

0:12:06that was the only part I was a little bit worried about how to try to make

0:12:09that look ok make that look good but it worked out just fine and so very quickly

0:12:15as the end of that story my favorite pause the video is when you're showing

0:12:21the part about the nation of Florida or something over the Republic of West

0:12:26Florida that's it and then he say like that but the us- put an end to that the

0:12:31stick figure just like I just players respond

0:12:38the that was one of the other things when I'm doing these projects I

0:12:41sometimes I i'm looking for facts that let me make a video and the Republic of

0:12:50West Florida was one of those details I found very quick

0:12:53early on Thursday nights that really felt like yes this is an excellent thing

0:12:59to have in a video without the Republic of West Florida this is a much less

0:13:03interesting video so I just had those things all came up in the in the right

0:13:09way so when I came across this great I have this I know the animation that I

0:13:14want at the end with the surrender flag I was able to work in this little

0:13:18pattern of 78 days later and then thirty six days later saw the beginning and the

0:13:24end are somewhat similar is able to allude to the surrender in the middle

0:13:27that happens if the answer is everything just went really great and normally that

0:13:32takes weeks and weeks and weeks for me to make something that that i think is

0:13:35is that good so it's quite happy with this video actually I'm very pleased

0:13:38with the way came out let's let's address some follow-up from the shift

0:13:43from last week's episode the great perspective zoom debate I think has

0:13:48maybe been put to sleep now I think we have the result after basically for the

0:13:53entire week receiving contrasting feedback from people you know some

0:13:58people would say something

0:13:59another thing I just wanna interject Mike before you have the correct answer

0:14:03I want to thank the audience for sending all of this feedback to you yet because

0:14:09they didn't send it to me and I really appreciated that I asked on the last

0:14:13episode please don't send me on Twitter all of your screen shot that looked

0:14:16nearly identical it all went to might add is great

0:14:22a lot of real details to look into screens so thank you audience I

0:14:27appreciate that I also appreciate it

0:14:29there we go I like to hear from from the cortex people but a friend of the show

0:14:34underscore David Smith is a great guy is very smart guys a developer and he

0:14:38looked into this for me and he basically posted in the red what I consider to be

0:14:43the categoric proof of how this stuff works and he even made this like diagram

0:14:48of some description I don't fully understand but it looks complicated

0:14:52enough that it makes sense

0:14:54basically he said on it as this rain if you have reduced motion

0:15:01off things will move around no matter what you do a perspective so basically

0:15:07the only way to stop things from moving is to have reduce motion on and but

0:15:14their perspective zoom it doesn't even matter perspectives in does nothing to

0:15:17reduce motion on wall paper doesn't move icons won't move you can align perfectly

0:15:22but if you have reduced motion turned off no matter what you do stuff around

0:15:27wherever the wallpaper move on the icon to move something will move to the only

0:15:32way you can stop everything from moving despite earning which is so what you're

0:15:37saying is I was right that's the sound like because I had I had reduced motion

0:15:42on and I was convinced that my icons are not moving is that that were just saying

0:15:47here I thought you said you had it off now I had it on I think it did I don't

0:15:54know I don't remember when you when you open apps and close folders they zoom

0:15:59away or is this white screen no you're right you're right it does it does the

0:16:05animations which means reduced motion ease off that right

0:16:09yeah okay so I was right they were moving you just can't see them moving as

0:16:15you have a black background or dog background allure leather but they are

0:16:18moving around there okay so then the problem is really with my eyes that's

0:16:23what you're saying my eyes are not sharp enough to register the motion but the

0:16:26motion is happening to me or I as the register motion your kind of like the

0:16:30t-rex in jurassic park like at the t-rex only sees me yeah that makes that algae

0:16:36makes no sense that I should only see the icons when they do moves

0:16:39ok you like the opposite of this is going very well it's really hot here at

0:16:48a time so I can see underscore David Smith's comment on the reddit which goes

0:16:55through all the options of what's going to happen he is a very knowledgeable guy

0:16:58and he has a thousand apps so I will I will trust him here so many apps

0:17:04actually I even used one of his apps in one of my videos just without even

0:17:08knowing it was his resi- took a screenshot of the weather app when I was

0:17:11in las vegas intending to use it

0:17:13Las Vegas Video and I didn't even know that that was an underscore David Smith

0:17:17who knows I could have 20 apps on my phone that are underscored david smith

0:17:21said he makes so many anyway thanks underscore David Smith averaged Batman

0:17:25along with many people on the reddit question to you in regards to your

0:17:30clothing requirements as to why don't you just go to a tailor like his era

0:17:35many tailors in London like an Savile Row and you can just get a custom made

0:17:39and then you could just get a bunch more made if you wanted

0:17:42why don't you go ahead and do something like that have you thought you thought

0:17:47of doing that to go to a tailor and tell them your requirements and have them

0:17:50make it rather than trying to build an entire industrial factory yeah so this

0:17:55never occurred to me as a solution to think of 0 taylor's they exist I think I

0:18:02think in my mind I imagine taylor's as an eighteenth-century thing of before we

0:18:09had factories we used to have to have people and making the clothes in every

0:18:15major city in the world and you would you would go to them to make the clothes

0:18:20and that's where the clothes came from just it did not occur to me that Taylor

0:18:25is worth something that really existed but when they pointed out that this is

0:18:30on Savile Row I also realize that I have walked down that street many a time and

0:18:35looked right at the tailors and I think it's like my brain was photoshopping it

0:18:41all away so this they can't be really making clothes in there they're just

0:18:47clothing stores that are trying to give the impression that their old-fashioned

0:18:50Diaz as a branding maneuver I think I think that's what my brain was thinking

0:18:56so I thought this was this was an interesting suggestion I've never been

0:19:00to a teller I have no idea how much it would cost but I bet it would probably

0:19:05cost less than trying to build a factory yes yes how how much it costs will be

0:19:12cheaper than building a factory buying machinery and employing people to make

0:19:21that is I feel like that would not sit very well in the gray spreadsheet system

0:19:28that would be terrible are so maybe I will try this thing is I have also

0:19:35received very many links from people who have sent me various t-shirts are

0:19:41various color church that seemed to match the description I gave last time

0:19:44I've collected all of those links in a newt and I'm going to go through them at

0:19:48some point and see what those shirts look like and possibly place some orders

0:19:53but if that doesn't work

0:19:54taylor's they are an excellent excellent option maybe so

0:19:58be back in the future my quest to find an acceptable black collared shirt thank

0:20:04you everyone maybe we can do it in conjunction with London Fashion Week

0:20:07London have a Fashion Week yes of course it does why of course because it's one

0:20:17of the fashion centers of the world are fashioned way I don't know I don't know

0:20:20anything about this is Fashion Week a thing is the thing that happens in

0:20:23cities yes big thing is not big enough

0:20:27haven't heard of this other than trying to start your own branded and think

0:20:33you're very cute into the fashion world in general people say oh it's very big

0:20:38is it I don't know what this thing is that's all I'm saying is there a New

0:20:43York Fashion Week yes they're Hong Kong Fashion Week yeah I think so yes what is

0:20:49there

0:20:50Dayton Ohio Fashion Week probably but nobody knows about it unless they live

0:20:54in Dayton Ohio Daniel via Twitter also sent in a link to this website i think

0:21:02is a German website where you can customize and create your own shirt from

0:21:08a selection of options

0:21:10custom shirt configurator the configurator should have a ke liye

0:21:17conquer use Concord back in the day that the games thing I'm thinking of Linux

0:21:25was one of the interface I didn't I was not a conqueror person I was a known

0:21:30person but these are as always on the internet you have these arguments

0:21:34between computer people just leave Apple vs when does the all but even that even

0:21:38the people who use Linux they have their own little holy wars they have to fight

0:21:41and conquer vs nomas one of those things but everything in Concord was with AK

0:21:45which I thought was good I've never seriously used Linux you're not missing

0:21:51much if not for normal people that's all that's all I mean if you if you know if

0:21:59you're the kind of person who is using Linux you already know that you're that

0:22:03person but I see little people sometimes think I set up my mom with Linux now

0:22:08don't set up your mom athletics at the terrible idea if someone doesn't already

0:22:11know they need Linux they shouldn't be using Linux that's why they are not

0:22:14talking about register a selection of people suggested that I try out an app

0:22:21called Narwhal

0:22:22which is a very simple read it up and I love it and it's now the abiam using it

0:22:30has like I really like the UI has lots of swiping and stuff and it's set up in

0:22:35such a way that is really really easy for me to get to your surrender which is

0:22:39like the only thing that I haven't read it also edits I tried a way to do it

0:22:46that's the way I've added a couple and then had to remove them like basically

0:22:50within five minutes because it's just too much for me right now but it doesn't

0:22:54really cool stuff like when you click on the

0:22:56thread in the comments below and you can swipe up and the webpage sits behind

0:23:02it's quite nice you can swipe down and see the web pages linked to an end up to

0:23:06see the comments I really liked it but it is iPhone only that's the only

0:23:10problem so I'm using I a lien on the iPad and now using novel on the iPhone

0:23:20and I like it very much I have spoken to the developers of the app and then tell

0:23:27me that iPad is coming at some point Coupee could be seven years away from

0:23:32yeah you can ever trust developers when they say oh it's coming at some point

0:23:36well just in general really means when they say it's coming as they have a have

0:23:43a text file somewhere where they've written iPad app in that text as one of

0:23:47a thousand potential things to do that's all that little white board yeah that's

0:23:52right

0:23:53Katie 1313 1314 edit 12 to know something in regards to the way that you

0:24:00post videos to social media like to use anything like gift to do that or do you

0:24:06like before anything or do you just post them all manually ok first of all people

0:24:11know how I say it

0:24:12know what the heck you're talking about their asking about if this then that is

0:24:19and automating web service and maybe the best way to describe it i mean it exists

0:24:24on iPhone and iPad as well but it is a service that is designed to if something

0:24:30happens do something else so I do use if this than that for a couple of things

0:24:36one of which is I have a Twitter account which automatically tweets anything that

0:24:44I post to my website as the CDP great blog I think that Twitter account I'm

0:24:50not exactly sure what it is

0:24:52but that that I set up automatically so that when I post something on my website

0:24:56a minute or two later that Twitter account automatically fires off a tweet

0:25:01and I do the same thing with the hello Internet Twitter account so that when we

0:25:04post a new show the hello Internet Twitter account will automatically post

0:25:08as well saying that there is a new show but I don't do that they don't do that

0:25:14with the videos because it's just it's not really saving me much because the

0:25:19the video posting doesn't happen all that often and that is the the kind of

0:25:24thing that I want to have more fine-grained control over I don't always

0:25:29feel like I want to post on Twitter straight away that the video is up in no

0:25:34small part because twitter is not the best place to get feedback it just tends

0:25:39to be a wall of people talking so I sometimes wait until a little later in

0:25:43the day to actually post on Twitter when I can then pay a bit more attention to

0:25:48what is happening on Twitter as opposed to focusing on reddit which is my main

0:25:52focus when the video first close-up complain about it this and that

0:25:55four-minute yes I hope there's a developer at if this and that listening

0:25:59right now i i don't understand why they don't yet have additional logic

0:26:09operators as part of if this thing that you know logic Mike no more than what

0:26:16we're used to it lol podcasts with ok not that logic this is the good kind of

0:26:21logic logic is the simplest kind of programming that can exist so right now

0:26:28if this than that all I can do is exactly what the title is if a new

0:26:34episode of hello internet goes up then posts on his Twitter account that it's

0:26:39got up that's useful but it would be infinitely more useful if they added

0:26:46logic operators which are things like and or or so you could do something in

0:26:54one of the things that they have they try to sell you on is whether

0:26:57notifications or something but you want it you want to be able to say if a

0:27:03certain weather conditions

0:27:05is the case and it is a particular time then send me a notification you want to

0:27:13be able to combine stuff into a bit more of a sentence and if they've if they've

0:27:20programmed it to be able to do if and then adding and or adding or does not

0:27:27seem like it's a big deal and I keep waiting for this to appear because it

0:27:32would be vastly increase the utility of if this than that because it would turn

0:27:38it into a very very simple programmable

0:27:43where you can have people adding blocks of and or or or not so that you could

0:27:49make it more complicated conditions for when things are going to happen and it

0:27:53just speaking of developers and when teachers are coming I find it mind

0:27:56blowing that this that if there's the net has been around for as long as it

0:28:00has in it hasn't added what is the most obvious most useful next feature so I'm

0:28:07really I keep my fingers crossed for logical operators in if this than that

0:28:11but I feel like maybe they're never going to come

0:28:14is just strange I find it very strange this week's episode of cortex is bored

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0:30:44table lamp ottoman on the red it would like to know what you do during video

0:30:50rendering time and look when you're uploading some of what's happening in

0:30:53these long period of time where your rendering video uploading it or

0:30:58processing it like what sort of tasks to undertake are you working during those

0:31:02times do you take breaks during those times I can say the exact things that I

0:31:10do

0:31:10this is this is one of the ways in which I like to play around with the

0:31:16checklists because yes when I'm done at a meeting of video and i've i've

0:31:22synchronized all the animations to the audio I'm going to export it it takes a

0:31:26little while it doesn't take too long because my videos are relatively short

0:31:30but I don't know maybe it takes 10 or 20 minutes because I also help yeltsin now

0:31:36render the video is at four K and 60 frames per second

0:31:40people sometimes think is it is a bit excessive but I like doing it that way

0:31:44because why not it doesn't cost me anything to do it I've played around

0:31:49with the checklist to move different things to different times in the thing

0:31:52that I normally do while I'm waiting for it to export is I am creating the video

0:31:58thumbnail which I usually leave until the end because very often I'm just

0:32:02modifying one particular frame of the video to be the actual thumbnail and

0:32:08then I am also getting the email list ready during that time I i do i do think

0:32:18that when you are grinding through options it is very useful to you think

0:32:24about things that you can do while something else is happening that always

0:32:28feels W productive to me to be able to do something while something else is

0:32:34happening which I will mention one of the dumbest psychological trick that I

0:32:39use on myself but that is totally effective when I'm not feeling really

0:32:44productive I like to run the dishwasher or run a load of laundry because then I

0:32:51feel like I'm getting twice as much done if I'm working right now because I'm

0:32:57doing something and my washing machine robot is also cleaning the clothes and

0:33:02somehow it feels like the work counts twice as much when I'm doing it this way

0:33:06it's one of the the weirdest little tricks but it is definitely effective at

0:33:11to get myself started sometimes when I don't feel like doing something in the

0:33:14afternoon

0:33:15you can run a load of laundry right and ok I can put some laundry in and then I

0:33:21started and then and then I feel that well while doing the laundry might as

0:33:24well do this other stuff and it just yet feels like it's like a 20 X modifier in

0:33:29a video game to do work while also doing the laundry or the dishes I'm very

0:33:33confused so you have work to do and you procrastinate from the work by doing

0:33:40some housework

0:33:41from the house but by doing more work and have not exactly get what I what the

0:33:50situation that I'm talking about is usually an afternoon and what this is

0:33:54like a starter motor problem

0:33:56afternoons are not very good working time for me but very often I have things

0:34:00that I want you crying through anyway and the laundry is this little trick to

0:34:05get things moving

0:34:08not right it's it's that I don't really want to get started but the laundry is a

0:34:13very simple task to just start it is totally mindless and I just do it and

0:34:18then it feels like it counts more when I am doing other work it's a it's a bit

0:34:26like I like to work really early in the mornings something really nice about

0:34:31getting up early

0:34:32doing work and somehow if I if I'm writing a script before other people are

0:34:41awake it's that same feeling I don't know why but it feels like it counts for

0:34:46more doing it while other people are asleep like this were counted twice as

0:34:50much it obviously doesn't know about actually getting twice as much done but

0:34:55it just feels like there's a visit to axe modifier on top of my activity when

0:35:00this is happening there's just this idea in my mind that lake she set the washing

0:35:04machine on the dishwasher on and then you like what other robots are working I

0:35:09guess I should be honest to god that it that is probably a good way you

0:35:14summarize it that is exactly if I had a Roomba I would set that going as well

0:35:20the more robots that could be doing work around

0:35:22the house the more likely I am to be doing work around the house so today I

0:35:26want to talk a little bit about taking time off to have a topic today that

0:35:30we're doing this is the topic today and i wanna talk about kind of like

0:35:35entertainment as well in part because we've spoken about putting out the as

0:35:39you mentioned like once you do that you take a little time but you can't take

0:35:43like your video weekend right we just their jail and just do whatever so is

0:35:49this the only time that you can go out for relaxation during like a regular

0:35:53schedule what I currently have is Saturday's I'm not perfect about this

0:36:02but this year I have been trying to reserve Saturday's as a work doesn't

0:36:09need to happen today day off and usually that means hang out with my wife on

0:36:17Saturdays but I have been far from perfect with that because work still

0:36:22often intrudes and because I usually upload the videos on Monday Tuesdays or

0:36:30Wednesdays it's very easy for work to bleed over into the weekend and I have I

0:36:36have definitely gotten better over time it actually reserving Saturday's as a

0:36:42day off now on on my layout of the week I do have the other six days blocked out

0:36:49that workers on those days

0:36:51different kinds of work at different time there's a whole there's a cycle to

0:36:55it but yes the other six days of the week are blocked out as as workdays to

0:37:02some extent by on Sunday it's a bit flexible but the mornings at the very

0:37:08least are blocked out

0:37:10so I guess to answer your question aside from The Saturdays yes the time after

0:37:16the video is is the the time that I really take as as down time and that is

0:37:22that is officially worked into the schedule in the sense that it's just I

0:37:26just blow off whatever is on my calendar for the next few days after video goes

0:37:30up I just say okay as long as I don't have appointments with anyone in person

0:37:35I'm going to ignore what else is on the calendar here or what else I would

0:37:39normally be doing on a Tuesday I think that we definitely have very very

0:37:45different ways of approaching us so on an average day i I work very late into

0:37:52these things go your whole schedule is weirdly shifted into the evening because

0:37:58most of the people you work with are not only americans like myself but Americans

0:38:04in America so you have to live halfway on an american scheduled to record like

0:38:11with Jason's Deli record he's on the the west coast of me what on earth time do

0:38:15you guys record together we he does

0:38:17luckily we were called at like 7 p.m. something so that's that must be morning

0:38:24time for him

0:38:25the west coast is the worst to try to coordinate with with London that is the

0:38:29worst mismatched yeah I'm very lucky that one Jason was himself so he can

0:38:35pick is ours because if he worked a job we wouldn't be able to do it would get

0:38:39on the like 56 p.m. and then I basically the next day and said he you know

0:38:47greatest

0:38:48early in the day which makes it doable I mean I had some shows where the

0:38:52recording begins at 11 p.m. so quite frequently I am awake working maybe

0:39:02until like 1 a.m. 2 a.m. sometimes three or four depending on what's happening so

0:39:07I was i were quite weird hours but I wake up most days relatively early like

0:39:13between 8:30 and nine and that's mainly just to see my girlfriend in the morning

0:39:18until the house like it's just something I like to be able to do to let her keep

0:39:30the cues from UV rays that in a very catlike way she's at the back door

0:39:35meowing and you're going to let her out of the house if I don't prepare meals

0:39:39for in the morning of the door she just basically just wake up and then I see

0:39:46are often you know

0:39:48ok see something I like to do because I'm able to do that which means that

0:39:53typically I'm awake then so effective in the first couple of hours a day most

0:39:58days I don't really do anything I maybe watch some TV or I like my breakfast and

0:40:07ivory Twitter and may play their game I tend to just tool around until it gets

0:40:13close to lunchtime I Z usually like 11 a.m. is when from then on is when I

0:40:18heard she sought to do any real work most days and I'm pretty good at giving

0:40:25myself breaks where I need to the day if if I want to you know I am i feel i say

0:40:31pretty good at that caused it means I don't work constantly cuz I worked

0:40:34really really weird hours how many if if I'm have scheduled six days a week of

0:40:41work happens at some point on those days how many days a week do you have that

0:40:46workers off 55 till the weekend off is that the way that works

0:40:51typically yes so I always do a little bit of work on Sunday evening have a

0:40:58show that I ended on Sunday evening and sometimes I work on the weekends if my

0:41:04girlfriend needs to work mostly

0:41:06most unless unless something crazy is happening and I asked her she's ok with

0:41:11it

0:41:11then I I will do some work on the weekends because that time is carved out

0:41:17to spend with her and that is very important to us so I basically turn over

0:41:24my whole weekends mostly for us to spend time together and I do that

0:41:29happily cuz it's also what I would want to do I would go crazy ways because of

0:41:35the weird hours that I work we never really get to see each other because I'm

0:41:40not locked away recording and she comes home and then it's like 11 p.m. and I

0:41:44sneak out for like five minutes and you know then back to work again so the

0:41:50weekends are very important to us that I get those so that's kind of the weather

0:41:54I work so I tend to do five days of work but my hours are all kinds of crazy by

0:42:03nature that take time to chill and to relax is gonna go crazy if you don't

0:42:10take some what kinds of activities do you tend to partake in in your

0:42:15relaxation time depends it depends a bit on well it depends on what's happening

0:42:20but in terms of hours spent in non work relaxation mode it's it's gotta be

0:42:29gaming by far as playing various video games that's that is my big downtime

0:42:37activity and I have always I've always enjoyed video games ever since I was a

0:42:44kid but the thing that I find really useful about them now as an adult is

0:42:54that they occupy the work part of my brain they keep it they keep it busy and

0:43:02so I feel like I can actually I can actually genuinely relax because I but

0:43:11this is what I was when I was younger I I would also read a lots for relaxation

0:43:19but now I'm aware that because I mostly read non stick

0:43:23action that activity is also still partly work I don't read as much as I

0:43:31did when I was younger although I still read but I'm aware of how that is not a

0:43:37100% downtime activity I i scheduled work schedule are reading into my day

0:43:44because it's important but it's also partly your work actively reading

0:43:50non-fiction because I'm reading a book that's about a topic and AM always

0:43:54making highlights and notes and and saving things for the future or I'm

0:44:00reading a book that's maybe about business and so now this is very

0:44:04directly related to work so that's why we're reading has has what was used to

0:44:12be a big amount of just relaxation time it's now become work in a way whereas

0:44:21video games there's no way to pretend like thats work it's just not it's just

0:44:28not going to happen and I find them engaging and enjoyable and it's just

0:44:35like yes this is 100% down time you can't can't fool yourself like you're

0:44:40working when you're when you're doing this are you really need to actually

0:44:42just be able to be in a situation where you can just relax and unlike reading a

0:44:48book I don't have this thing in the back of my mind about go this is 20% work so

0:44:54that's that's one of the reasons why I tend to play them as my mean relaxation

0:45:01I totally get that but occupying work part because you're you're working and

0:45:07someone like you're working on a new thing but the things in the video game

0:45:11world by the same what it does is during that period of time

0:45:14my brain is satisfied that it's accomplishing something but I'm not

0:45:18thinking about stressing about the jobs that I actually have to do yes that that

0:45:22is a perfect description of what it is

0:45:25and I mean this is this is going to be people who don't play games though is a

0:45:30bit hard to do hard to describe this but I can say that when I'm playing a game I

0:45:36am actually doing the exact same thing that I'm doing what I'm working on a

0:45:41video in a way so if you think about the high level of making a video

0:45:47the big task I'm accomplishing is that I'm trying to figure something out and

0:45:53then be able to explain it to somebody else and I i pick games the kinds of

0:46:01games that I play are almost exclusively what could be described as I sometimes

0:46:07joke that their work simulators but they are system games where there's very

0:46:13little instruction you have a bunch of tools you have to put them together and

0:46:18you need to figure out how to make this whole thing work and so one of the games

0:46:22I was playing for a long time was called prison architect and that that was the

0:46:26same this idea of you have to figure out how to make this prison run without a

0:46:31descending into into a riot but it occupies it like it makes that some part

0:46:37of my work brain feel good because it's like ok we're still doing the same thing

0:46:41we're figuring out something we're figuring out how this works in the same

0:46:45way that we figured out how to the how does the Pope get elected and like that

0:46:50part of my brain feels like it needs to be always engaged and it's very hard to

0:46:56have that being caged and also feel like I'm relaxing at this at the same time so

0:47:02that's that's why they're useful and I and that's also why I i play a very

0:47:07particular genre of game and I'm always aware of how as soon as I have the game

0:47:15figured out I go through the same pattern every single time I know I'm

0:47:19nearing the end of my lifetime with this game because I start thinking I should

0:47:23put together a tutorial series on this game have never actually done right I've

0:47:29yet to do this for any game but I've done this with every single one ago I

0:47:34should put together to talk and I'll start making some notes about

0:47:38oh yeah let me put together a tutorial on this ok here's here's the quick start

0:47:42guide here's what you need to do and I'm making out and almost always halfway

0:47:49through that process I all of a sudden I just lose total interest in the game and

0:47:54then my brain switches and I go back to the next video because my brain goes it

0:47:58doesn't make any sense to spend time on this tutorial series for this game

0:48:02because I lose interest instant I figured it out I just dropped games

0:48:10right away when I figure that out to to the full extent and I shouldn't spend

0:48:17time making a tutorial series for a game that I'm no longer interested in now

0:48:21it's time to make a real video so this is this is the cycle this is the cycle

0:48:26that occurs is it because the challenges lost acquired you lose interest

0:48:35it's not the challenge it's for me I am playing the games in a meadow way I'm

0:48:43playing it to figure out what the thing and again it's very hard it's very hard

0:48:52to explain

0:48:52are using the game I blame the past few days this has been my my game this time

0:48:57round after the Confederate video I've been staying away from it because I

0:49:03thought it looked like a terribly ugly game I've said as much in the reddits

0:49:07but I have been playing a game called fact Oreo which I have ended up quite

0:49:11liking even though it is hideous to look at but victoria is a game where you are

0:49:18basically building factories the whole does not look good it is very ugly

0:49:25I have stayed away from it because of its business for a while but I never

0:49:32played it but I gave in and actually I'll give it a try because I wasn't

0:49:36quite finding anything that I liked

0:49:39the whole game is just figuring out how to connect these various factories and

0:49:45assembly lines together to build other things and use the things that you just

0:49:49built to build more complex things and while the game in theory has its own

0:49:55purpose that the players might want my feeling of playing the game is always I

0:50:02don't really like to look at instructions very much I don't really

0:50:05like to look at tutorials I want to figure out how to make this thing go and

0:50:10that's that's one of the ways that I really like video games if it's totally

0:50:15unlike the only comparison i could think of here or the the best contrast I can

0:50:19think of is you couldn't sit down with a board game on your own without looking

0:50:28at the instruction manual and just figure out how it works

0:50:32that's an impossible task but a video game is an interesting system because

0:50:37you can just mess around with it and it pushes back against you it lets you know

0:50:41when you're doing things wrong or when you're doing things right and that that

0:50:47is the thing that I find engaging about it it's not the game it's pushing up

0:50:53against the boundaries of ok if I do that I die in this is obviously the

0:50:57wrong thing to do I like Who I made this new thing here ok great what can this

0:51:00plugin too so it's all about figuring things out so a video game for me is

0:51:06it's like a really complicated Rubik's Cube you can figure out the pieces and

0:51:12how they work and that that's what I find enjoyable but as soon as I have it

0:51:16all figured out it's it's always I don't want to actually play this game right

0:51:21now that I know how everything works I have no more interest in this thing and

0:51:25that's it that's the same thing that happens with my videos it's a it's a bit

0:51:30weird when people want to talk to me about the videos later on because very

0:51:33often I remember so little about the videos I put together years ago because

0:51:38I was trying to figure out what the thing was and I figure that out and now

0:51:43that's now that's done but at least with the videos actually do producers thing

0:51:47that people can look at

0:51:48unlike my video game tutorials which I always think I'm going to make but I

0:51:52never do I want to come back to video games like to talk about some of the

0:51:57other stuff that you play in america meant there was one other thing I want

0:52:01to talk about in regards to taking time off and as vacations I know that you

0:52:07take vacations because you told me you were on us how often do you do to take

0:52:17vacations my wife and I went to Vegas in April and that was the first actual

0:52:26genuine this is 100% of vacation it's not partly work or its not partly family

0:52:33vacation that we had taken in years and that was again this week this is part of

0:52:40the changes that I'm trying to make my life now is is this moving much more

0:52:44towards a life that I want to live and my wife and I hadn't traveled in a long

0:52:50time just to travel and finally this year we felt like it was more of a

0:52:55possibility so I can't say that I we have an answer to how often do we see

0:53:00vacations because we're just now in a position where it's something that we

0:53:05can actually start thinking about him in a much more deliberate way whereas in

0:53:11the past few years it was always it was always going to see family and then

0:53:18we're we're sort of half doing a vacation then but you have seen family

0:53:22which is a different experience or something related to work so I don't

0:53:28know how often were going to do something like that that's something we

0:53:31we still we still have to figure out I tried to take as many as possible I left

0:53:37college college here is 18

0:53:42whenever there's an america I don't know sixth form college yeah I did I didn't

0:53:46go to university so I kind of got a job because I was going to take a break from

0:53:53university and then just like getting money

0:53:56so I've been like in I was in full time employment from the time that I was like

0:54:0118 to 26 27 something so I didn't really get the chance to do much traveling I

0:54:11just went on some holidays here and there but I never took the time that

0:54:14many people take before they get a real job to go and do any traveling so now I

0:54:20am in the position where I can set my own schedule a bit more I'm taking more

0:54:24time traveling to more places because luckily right now I have the means to do

0:54:30that as well so I'm making sure that I do that cuz I like I like to take

0:54:34vacations and breaks but the problem is that what comes along with this is the

0:54:39factor I can now never ever for the rest of my life take a proper vacation ever

0:54:44again because I'm self-employed yes you and you in particular have scheduled you

0:54:52you have shows that you're supposed to be recording there are people who are

0:54:55waiting on you for things this is the real trouble with being self-employed

0:55:02and so yes you have more control over your day to day time but it definitely

0:55:11comes with this this tradeoff that I mean if you want to go to the UN to WWDC

0:55:17which is half working that's not really a vacation anyway but you had to plan

0:55:22the week ahead I'm presuming you were double recording shows that you have to

0:55:26do way more work before and after when you take a vacation as a self-employed

0:55:31person yet sometimes during the recording shows whilst there but then

0:55:37also the other part is when I when I used to work in my bank marketing job

0:55:42there are a couple of things that could happen when I went away I was able to

0:55:46hand over my work to somebody else to look after while I was gone

0:55:49yes and also when I was as soon as I left that building I could just stop

0:55:54thinking about it

0:55:55fine writes that does not happen now I mean I can hand over some elements of my

0:56:00job to you know exist even my co-founder or two other people within relay can

0:56:06look after some things to me maybe cover shows none of that takes away the fact

0:56:11that I'm constantly thinking about it and there's no way to fully relax in

0:56:17that regard just like what is something down what happened is like oh you want

0:56:21to go ahead they also have to take a laptop in case something breaks you just

0:56:24have to do that now I'm going away for a short break this weekend as well I have

0:56:30to take a ton of stuff with me in case something explodes in anything like you

0:56:37know I will be sneaking time where possible to check and respond to emails

0:56:42and you know it's it's not a great scenario like a look whoa is me tell

0:56:49very as i said im lucky that I'm able to do this stuff but it is that things like

0:56:54the tradeoff that you get from being able to do this stuff and go on trips

0:56:58and and kinda that way is it you can never truly take a real vacation again

0:57:03yes this this is the the big difference and it's the thing that I am most aware

0:57:13of being different in my teacher self-employed life is this constant

0:57:21awareness that there is always more work that can be done there is always more

0:57:28that you could do for the business and it's a it's a hard thing to get used to

0:57:38and

0:57:41especially when you're just 11 person and there's there's nobody to hand stuff

0:57:47off to its it's one reason why when I did take that Las Vegas vacation I was

0:58:00really a year with myself that there was going to be nothing that was work during

0:58:08that time I didn't look at any emails I didn't really look at Twitter I was just

0:58:16trying to stay off the internet as much as practical and not do any work she

0:58:23just try to disengage from that for the space of a week and do not have my brain

0:58:31always thinking about what should be the next thing that happens there's people

0:58:35waiting for the next video or what should the next video be and it's it's a

0:58:41hard thing it's a hard thing to do but I think it's really important to have

0:58:45times when you're not focusing on work at all but and here's why it's hard to

0:58:53do when it's just you completely ignoring work means there will be

0:59:02problems that will happen when you're not looking

0:59:08and if you're not you have to learn to be able to accept that and it's it's

0:59:17very heart the III have after the Confederate video came out I was

0:59:24unusually exhausted because a bunch of things it all happened all at once and I

0:59:31decided to take a longer than usual breaks today is really my first day back

0:59:36at work

0:59:37took four days off

0:59:40and I was very conscious of am not even going to open my email during this time

0:59:46I'm really going to take time off from work but I guarantee you that there are

0:59:51problems waiting for me in that email when I get back in that that is that is

0:59:56a hard that is like a hard balance to to play because if you if you take off too

1:00:02much time those problems get big and then they can turn into costly problems

1:00:06and that actually happened on my my trip to Las Vegas there was a thing that

1:00:12occurred that if I had been able to pay attention to it at the time I would have

1:00:16been able to fix but because I wasn't paying attention to the business

1:00:22don't go into the details but there was a a business problem that that cost a

1:00:27lot of money and i'm i'm ok with that because that is the price of taking time

1:00:38off sometimes when you're self-employed and when there's nobody around 22 past

1:00:43the work off to that has to be the price you can't you can't assume that you're

1:00:51going to be on top of everything all time and so you have to become

1:00:56comfortable with allowing problems to happen and and learning what kinds of

1:01:05problems are ok and learning what things are courting your business and you have

1:01:11to stay focused on that's a really long rambling answer about why vacations are

1:01:16are difficult when it's when it's just you and you're the only person in the

1:01:20business done that to not working on the Vegas trip whether you think your brain

1:01:27was working on that trip because you came home made a video about Vegas but

1:01:31that's why the the Vegas trip is is one of the worst examples I could ever do I

1:01:37literally made a video about las vegas however however what I want to say in my

1:01:43defense is that I had written almost all the script before I went to Las Vegas

1:01:49and I did that so that I could

1:01:53have it off my mind I always knew that I was going to do a las vegas with you at

1:01:56some point and I was in Las Vegas and just thinking ever so slightly if I

1:02:02happened to come across anything that's interesting here to add to the video I

1:02:06will do that but i i i have I did that script as much as possible before a Las

1:02:13Vegas because I knew otherwise it'll be on my mind the whole time I'm here and I

1:02:18didn't I didn't want that to be the case but yes I did snap screenshot well I was

1:02:24in paradise

1:02:25to get it on the phones that you could see it the right one or two other little

1:02:28things that happened while I was there but it really wasn't very much I was I

1:02:31was pretty successful but but that also goes to the gym before about the core

1:02:36think the thing in my business that matters the most is getting videos out

1:02:40and anything that is a problem that is not related to that is a problem I'd

1:02:47like to fix but it doesn't necessarily take priority and what's going to happen

1:02:52something like a vacation can take priority if I'm keeping focus on the

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1:04:55haida and Mike and I think the rooms now so we've spoken about like taking breaks

1:05:01and you know there's those breaks would tend to be filled with entertainment

1:05:05total video games little bit but what do you tend to choose to unwind with more

1:05:11frequently other than video games especially for shared activities of

1:05:14missus great do you guys watch movies and TV together like what do you do

1:05:18yeah we we tend to take a little walks were in an area of London that is very

1:05:24walkable that's that's a nice thing to do

1:05:27like many couples we will watch movies together or TV shows together I feel

1:05:35like it's just a it's a very normal days on Saturdays because my wife has worked

1:05:43a full work week and she's really exhausted when the weekend rolls around

1:05:49and so she also just wants to relax as a way to let go I want to relax as well

1:05:55cowboy we have a very nice comfy couch and he will take great advantage of that

1:06:00company challenge and so is there's a lot of there's a lot of hanging out with

1:06:05my girlfriend and I do anything we like to watch TV shows that we like to pick a

1:06:11show that we haven't seen like

1:06:12watch all of it I recently we did all of friends but felt like a great

1:06:17achievement the entire thing and shows like you we just have caught up in

1:06:23Brooklyn 99 which is a show that i very much enjoy so we do that kind of stuff

1:06:27watch movies TV and but we do know we try and get out into London as well go

1:06:34for walks places my better half enjoys that kind of stuff like and hunting call

1:06:41last weekend which is part of London and we tried to get a little bit mainly I

1:06:50think the majority of the time is that kind of idea because she is also what

1:06:53the work week and is tired so we were like movies and TV shows and things like

1:06:58that together for you though for your tastes what types of movies do tend to

1:07:06enjoy comedy man action man do you like documentaries it's very hard to find

1:07:12good movies and things worth watching

1:07:18I i I don't tend to left to my own devices watch a lot of stuff but if I

1:07:29things that I like tend more towards dramas

1:07:35so I may have mentioned my favorite TV show ever the best TV show is is the

1:07:39wire which I really enjoyed but in a more and more modern show is something

1:07:44like I've been watching The Walking Dead which I'd like even the season two is

1:07:49terribly boring it's picked up so that that kind of show is the thing that I

1:07:55would tend towards but my wife does not like those kinds of shows to watch those

1:08:03on my own as great I'm she watches more upbeat stuff so we just worked our way

1:08:09through arrested development so we watched the first three seasons of

1:08:12arrested development

1:08:13and don't watch Netflix one yeah I've not heard good things about it but when

1:08:18she yes she tends to like other stuff I know a few years ago we worked our way

1:08:22through all the Voyager which she really likes and which i think is fine but I

1:08:27get hugely frustrated with inconsistencies in the Star Trek

1:08:30universe it's hugely frustrating it's usually frustrate the worst thing is

1:08:37that I I end up knowing all of the details about the Star Trek stuff

1:08:41because while we're watching it I'll be on like the Star Trek the the Memory

1:08:44Alpha their their wiki looking at the details of this and not wait a minute is

1:08:48just the Star Trek universe has the same problems that comic book universe is

1:08:53happy just to big over too many years it can't possibly be consistent but I can't

1:08:59stop myself from getting frustrated with it on occasion so that I don't know yet

1:09:03I'm not saying that I don't like it but I i just there are many things that

1:09:08would change about Star Trek james' I would change so yeah that's when we're

1:09:14watching stuff together it tends to be lighter stuff like that but when I'm

1:09:19watching stuff on my own I tend more towards dramas I feel like we've been

1:09:24friends for long enough they would not surprise you when I say that I am an

1:09:28emotional person yeah I'm not surprised by that so I tend to like upbeat things

1:09:34like I like comedies and things that are simple like if if a movie is exceedingly

1:09:41good but it you know I know it's gonna be sad but I know it's a good movie then

1:09:45I will watch it right now and I like action movies as well but I tend to like

1:09:49light-hearted things because stuff movies tv-shows ebooks music can have a

1:09:55lasting effect on me and my try to limit the effect that I'll allow things to her

1:10:00have if they're not good enough right so I i tend not to be a big like drama guy

1:10:08but I will watch something if I know it's good enough like the wire for

1:10:12example and Adina she introduced me to the wire and a good girlfriend yeah

1:10:20because I had done what many people don't I watched the first episode and

1:10:24then stopped so like my advice to anybody hearings who's not seen the wire

1:10:29I heartily recommend wire season as well and would say if you are interested you

1:10:38have to commit to the first three episodes you can't just say I call see

1:10:44what's it like in stock if you want to start you must commit yourself to watch

1:10:48the first three cuz that's in my opinion once you've got through that it clicks

1:10:52because the wire starts and you have no idea what's going on because I think

1:10:57it's purposeful date day take no time in trying to introduce the characters you

1:11:00have to learn the characters long and it takes a few episodes that yes yes that's

1:11:06definitely the case and I like the wire for the same reason I like many other

1:11:09things it is it is a show that is much more about a system and I love how the

1:11:15wire just makes no concessions to the audience of explaining anything like you

1:11:22know what buddy you're just going to figure it out yeah we're going to

1:11:25explain none of the slang none of its yes there were lots of the show had to

1:11:33watch subtitles to just understand what was going on at home you are you just

1:11:38kind of have to infer what is occurring by the way the people talking to each

1:11:42other rather than actually trying to understand words yes a very fascinating

1:11:46show but that's one of those things so I knew that was gonna be good I heard

1:11:51always good things about it she really really pushed it you should you will

1:11:56like this you have two washes by trying to limit that kinda stuff I tend to like

1:12:00things it's you know what I mean I enjoy it rather than needing to think about it

1:12:06for six weeks what about music do you listen to live music

1:12:11mean we spoke about all day right but that is a functional thing that is not

1:12:16like music for enjoyment that is like this exists to help me do my work you're

1:12:25not going to like this but I have zero interest in music outside of its utility

1:12:32as a tool to accomplish just nine

1:12:39always been this way I don't think i mean i think is a kid I like music more

1:12:46but I I just have I have no interest in music other than a kind of audio version

1:12:54of brain doping the code that this this sequence of sounds can put my brain in a

1:12:59in the mood for the sequence of sounds associated with something or this

1:13:03repetitive noise is useful in this moment I just have no interest in music

1:13:10in and of itself as an art form I don't have any appreciation for this are you

1:13:15able to compute any music that you like what you mean like is there anything

1:13:23that you can say I like this album or I like this artist now reeling some

1:13:32interesting to me again I like that Girl Talk album but that exists to me in the

1:13:39world as a thing that I listened to at the moment i mean that the most the most

1:13:46music I ever listened to was done a couple of in my younger days road trips

1:13:51across the United States and I had long lists of music that I listen to then but

1:13:58even then it was as a tool for I can't listen to audio books for four hours a

1:14:03row in a row every day while I'm driving I need to break this up with something

1:14:08else I'm not gonna break it up with silence because that will drive me even

1:14:12more crazy so I need something else I'm gonna break it up with music but again

1:14:16it was music as as it cool if if I was able to listen to audio books all day in

1:14:22the car

1:14:23or silence in the car I would have but I just had had a lot of upbeat sing-along

1:14:29kind of songs that I listen to you on the road trips because of the of the

1:14:33function that they serves not because I was like oh I love this music so I'm

1:14:39sorry Mike I don't you have a podcast were you interviewing people about music

1:14:43and I don't listen to that but in those scenarios you have to make a choice when

1:14:52you need music even in those times like driving across the country

1:14:57you must choose something would you choose

1:15:02ok here is the way that new music comes into my life right now

1:15:07ok because I haven't had any music come into my life for me be ten years because

1:15:13I just didn't listen to the radio or anything I had I was aware that there

1:15:17was no way in which new music came into my life I just had a collection of songs

1:15:20that I've been carrying around since college and there was there was no input

1:15:25into the system would have recognized was not optimal but I would never just

1:15:29listen to the radio or anything so I signed up with Spotify so that there is

1:15:35a mechanism by which new music comes into my system or what I will often do

1:15:40as I will just go to like the top charts on Spotify or something and just play it

1:15:45randomly and this is when I'm working I don't know how but but very quickly some

1:15:52song will will clearly become stuck in my brain and then I'll just loop that

1:15:57one for an hour to just that same song while I'm doing work but again it's a

1:16:04it's totally utilitarian thing it's like I'm using this music to stay focused ion

1:16:14even know who the artist sorry I don't know what song I'm listening to I know

1:16:18that the the kinds of things that tend to work for me are usually I would just

1:16:25say just like pop kind of songs there's something about them that really clicked

1:16:31in my brain just like listening to it over and over again

1:16:35has a catchy hook and has little melody that goes along so I listen to that

1:16:40stuff but yeah it is I i never i never think you know what I want to do right

1:16:45now I want to listen to some music I almost exclusively listen to music when

1:16:50I am doing work and I'm doing work with words in particular otherwise I almost

1:16:56never listen to music I didn't think I would ever meet somebody that feels this

1:17:03way it's so interesting

1:17:06me think of all of the things I know about you this is the one I am now the

1:17:09most fascinating it seems to so strange that you don't seem to take control of

1:17:14your music like it that's the wrong thing there is not that I don't like

1:17:19music that that's wrong but it's it's never an activity that I would seek out

1:17:25or do in isolation

1:17:28it's always accompanying something else and it is it its accompanying for a lot

1:17:33like like the mood modifier show me that that's how I listen to music by still

1:17:37have tasting choices and artists and albums that I enjoy you know yeah yeah I

1:17:44know I know this is a thing that people do I am a music fan and i'd like I have

1:17:49a very wide music taste and I would suggest if anybody likes music like I do

1:17:55and is not great they should maybe try out my favorite album run into the

1:18:02favorite albums like that show notes that the one that I am NOT yeah why not

1:18:09surprised now I i 10 my mind tastes tend to skew to alternate rot but I like wide

1:18:18range of stuff you know I like rap and hip-hop R&B and swing music soul music

1:18:26pop by I have a very wide range of tastes but I guess I kind of skew

1:18:32towards the independent alternative rock

1:18:36more generally upset about video games done so I can perceive you as human them

1:18:42while some of your favorite video ever was some of the stuff that you played

1:18:48recently that you really really enjoy and what kind of all time favorites or

1:18:54maybe just like you know I know that I know that you tend to like simulation

1:18:57games is that the only type of video games you enjoy know there's I tried

1:19:03lots of stuff I i just I'm very aware that I tend to focus on meez work

1:19:09simulator systems games right after I finished video for awhile like that will

1:19:14hold my interest for a long time and I'll play those but I played I play lots

1:19:19of different kinds of games I like to try out different stuff you tend to

1:19:25mainly play on PC you have a console I do I don't have a console I haven't had

1:19:31a console since as a kid I had a super nintendo

1:19:34wow so you are strict PC game yes I assuming that you do all of this on your

1:19:39Mac though I am I'm a member of the PC master race but I also play lots of

1:19:47games on an iPad and also playing on a Mac so maybe I'm the worst member of the

1:19:52PC masteries I don't have a console but that's mainly because I don't have a TV

1:19:56to hook the console up to I'm not opposed to consoles I just haven't

1:20:00haven't played them in years but on the occasions when I have played modern

1:20:06games with consoles I find myself frustrated by the lack of precision

1:20:11input I just want a keyboard and mouse to play games or I want the other

1:20:19extreme which is games that are designed for touch on the iPad I find the console

1:20:24my limited experience has not been great with modern console games but that could

1:20:30just be that lack of exposure and I think it's more the latter yeah

1:20:35but I feel like I didn't get a definitive answer as you don't

1:20:42jeopardize mister you do not have a gaming PC will do you no I don't I don't

1:20:48have a dedicated gaming PC right so there is no windows machine that you are

1:20:52using to play video games on

1:20:54I have a Mac team a lot then I have just in the past year started to use steam so

1:21:04I don't have a bunch of stuff on Steam I only have a few items there but yes I am

1:21:09currently using steam for for a few things things worth noting on Steam that

1:21:15I have I have city skylines which I highly recommends as the SimCity game

1:21:22that should always have been very excellent yeah I own that I haven't

1:21:26played it I started it and then stopped I don't know why but I bought that

1:21:31because I love Sin City and the last one was an abomination well EA has been

1:21:37horrendous

1:21:38mike has been sitting all over SimCity three years in a way that I have found

1:21:47hugely frustrating I want a new modern good sim city for the iPad and they will

1:21:52not give that to me the last one that they did what they called a builder or

1:21:58something was good except for the fact that you had to wait and buy and you

1:22:02know all the micro transaction crap but the game itself was built well but then

1:22:07they'd just Morinda ruined it completely ruined yeah I highly recommend city

1:22:12skylines very good it's everything sim city should have been and i think is the

1:22:19most delicious part of the story of that game that is made by people who worked

1:22:22at da on sim city who got frustrated enough to leave and then made teammates

1:22:27amazing game like you know what I would buy that game twice to support them and

1:22:34to give the middle finger to accompany me a really is terrible they ruin

1:22:39everything

1:22:39yeah that's the worst I just based on some of the recommendation on the red

1:22:43eye I got a game on Steam called mini Metro which it's only an afternoon's

1:22:48worth of play but it's it's a fun little game like Metro simulator that was good

1:22:55yeah it's beautiful

1:22:58it has a night mode which is very nice prison architect which I mentioned

1:23:01before ok so that now something that's a little bit different

1:23:05is and very good that I recommend is XCOM which is a turn-based combat game

1:23:16you are defending the earth against an alien invasion but it's the aliens take

1:23:23turns and you take turns and you have to do it in a strategic manner of

1:23:28maneuvering around obstacles on the board and which which order do you want

1:23:34to fire in or you have a bunch of decisions to make and it's different

1:23:39from other games it's a it's a combat game and I really like that one is is

1:23:45very good I'll go for another recommendation which is a very different

1:23:48game and I wish there were more things like this but I'm going to highly highly

1:23:54recommend a game called year walk which is for the iPad maybe another platforms

1:24:00but I think you should play it on the iPad if it does exist elsewhere

1:24:05here's my recommendation for your walk Jones don't read anything about it Jones

1:24:12even watch the trailer for the game this is like like an experience that you're

1:24:20going to have its not really traditional game so I would say put on headphones

1:24:27dedicate two hours by your walk and just play it and I found this amazing and I

1:24:38wish there were more games like this

1:24:40which were not necessarily games that you have to put in hundreds of hours for

1:24:45but they carefully crafted experiences that that you can have as a as a player

1:24:53I think it's very hard to do this right but your walk really really hits the

1:25:00mark dead-on so I i I really recommend that one that was there was a great

1:25:05experience on the other extreme I do sometimes like really mindless stuff

1:25:10like I am looking very forward to the new version of doom which is coming out

1:25:15because I used to play just many more just great shoot-em-up games and I

1:25:20haven't seen one that I like in a while and sometimes when I play a game I just

1:25:25want something that is absolutely absolutely mindless and doom looks like

1:25:29it it fits that do ittt they don't need to think about anything I'm just going

1:25:33to run around and shoot a bunch of demons and that can also be an enjoyable

1:25:37gaming experience a lot of tower defense games on my iPad those are good

1:25:42Kingdom rush is very good this is turned into the video game episode mike was not

1:25:46I was not prepared for this I like to surprise here so I'm more of a console

1:25:51game in person I actually have all of the 30 got Playstation and Wii you have

1:25:57a lot of cables going to your television

1:25:59oh yeah it's one of the reasons again so I tend to like a couple of different

1:26:07types of console game I tend to like all of the first part Nintendo stuff always

1:26:13been a fan since I was a kid

1:26:15tenders always so I love you know all the Mario games the platform as the 2d

1:26:213d love marry a car that stuff just fantastic there is a new game to noon

1:26:29which is a first person shooter which is just a bunch of fun because you just

1:26:35basically have to just spray the world with Inc really fantastic love that game

1:26:41man and I also tend to like big open world games like currently I'm playing

1:26:47Batman Arkham night and I am loving the game that is my current game of choice I

1:26:54love that and I'm very excited for a game coming up on PlayStation cornerman

1:26:58sky gonna be on the PC which is a is a space exploration game procedural like

1:27:07Minecraft and its basic clean they have found a way to crew to randomly generate

1:27:15planets and some of the planets are the same size scales real planets and

1:27:23they've created universes and they're saying there's currently like

1:27:27quintillion planets created and the idea is you just there that is it is what it

1:27:34is like like Minecraft in a way that there is an end but you basically just

1:27:38go and explore and see what you end up coming up with just looks incredible I

1:27:45think people in the gaming world are really down on procedural stuff but I

1:27:49think that is clearly the future of games and procedural is very

1:27:56those who are not gamers what this means is it instead of a game designer hand

1:28:02crafting a level of a game you set of rules so that the computer can create

1:28:08its own areas in its own levels but because the computer is doing it you can

1:28:13do it on an infinite scale you can never run out of levels are you can never run

1:28:17out of worlds and i've seen procedural stuff done badly but I think as time

1:28:22goes on procedural gets better and better and it's it's clearly the future

1:28:28of of big having enormous worlds that that you can explore it's it's a very

1:28:36interesting very interesting development and yeah I like it I like that kind of

1:28:41stuff

1:28:41creates completely different houses video game weather like there isn't even

1:28:46really need for a story anyway you make your own

1:28:48yeah yeah yeah I think that was that was one of the big things for for minecraft

1:28:54is probably the biggest most popular procedural game of you can just keep

1:28:59walking forever and it's going to keep creating more world around you and as

1:29:05you go

1:29:05areas will be different and the others will just never end you can spend

1:29:10forever in this area saying help up here as I saw a story today that Mike Ross

1:29:17sales and now reach seventy million copies of twenty million sold on the PC

1:29:21easy that is a popular we would normally do some questions at this moment but I

1:29:31really I think it's it's better for both of us if we stop right now and it's

1:29:36better for the audience if you stop right now because if we keep going on we

1:29:39might actually die just a moment you're just gonna hear this sound and that's me

1:29:45passing out yes so there's there's thank you for the unexpected video game

1:29:51podcast I hope you made it to the end but we're going to we're going to have

1:29:55to go if this episode was little weird and a little difference you know you

1:30:00know why we are both podcasting with half big brains