The Incomparable

00:00:03 ◼   ► the in time through a number 317 October [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► welcome everybody to the incomparable [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► podcast we welcome past listeners we [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► welcome new listeners just discovering [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► us with this very episode this is a [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► podcast we talked about many things [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► including old movies that we watch and [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► then talk about and in this case we're [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► watching a classic sci-fi horror thing [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► something stirring the governor of [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► california i am referring to 1984 is the [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► Terminator directed by james cameron and [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► starring arnold schwarzenegger in a role [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► that he says like less than a hundred [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► words [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► joining me to talk about the first of [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► the Terminator movies it's an all-star [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► panel of of or even know where I'm going [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► up people who watch this movie [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► david lawrence here hello David hello [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► when you said the governor of california [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► i did have a split-second worried that [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► Jerry Brown and I really want to see [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► that i was going to say it's great Davis [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► as the Terminator who want to see that [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► uncertainty that's it bores you to death [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► that's how that one works [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► Eric and sign is also here and saw this [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► movie yes I I guess I've seen it a few [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► times of one of those times was recently [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► good excellent that's what we're looking [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► for [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► that's pretty much it and Steve Lutz who [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► i believe watched it twice recently [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► first I'm gonna rip the buttons off your [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► blouse yeah I'm one of you [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► ah it was either that or don't make me [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► bust you up man [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► yeah yeah I like that guy that character [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► Matt you're bunking with whatever it [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► covers me if you want to live [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► yes i did watch this movie twice [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► recently all right over the past week [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► actually two-and-a-half times because [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► the netflix DVD skipped midway through [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► during key scene and so I had to go out [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► and buy the blu-ray [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► oh I'm happy I did because this movie is [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► is a longtime favorite of mine although [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► having not watched it in probably a [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► couple of decades and watched again [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► twice this week it its it's not quite as [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► much of a favorite message [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► be well you know I'm glad I'm not the [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► only one that felt that way it has it [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► has a lot of issues i actually I [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► watching it back I like it but it's not [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► it has a lot of issues yeah well I [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► suppose we'll get to get to all of this [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► it's it started a it started the [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► franchise it's hard to watch it without [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► I saw the second one first [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► I never said I i was only after [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► terminator two became a huge hit in the [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► nineties that I went back and watch the [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► original terminator [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► I think has a kind of a charm a [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► low-budget kind of an eighties very this [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► is the most eighties movie I've seen in [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► a long time but it's pretty eighties [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► yeah like blend Hamilton's hair is in [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► her clothes this area the play at be the [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► street she walks down to me being lug [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► and the techno war club in particular [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► yeah our first introduction to sarah [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► connor is is her writing her honda [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► scooter [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► oh yes very enormous hair feathered [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► within an inch of its life she's got on [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► a pink backpack some sort of teal [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► scoopneck members-only like jacket [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► acid-washed guess Gino yes yes she is [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► the nineteen eighties in this scene and [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► it's all brought home you in that one [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► moment its wondrous and I mean the music [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► is so eighties I its 18th I felt like I [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► was watching a live-action video game [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► and because it's so low-budget none of [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► it is is licensed music so it's all like [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► anonymous move music by some friend of [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► James Cameron yeah it's all the same guy [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► i believe it i didn't mind investing so [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► here's my opinion about the music is I [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► didn't mind the yamaha piano synthesizer [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► mood music where it was like this is [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► what sort of sounds like a piano I did [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► mind and there's actually it's very [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► jarring when they have they're not to [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► just jump to the end the movie business [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► for talk about the music that you know [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► they Sarah and Kyle have their moment [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► and it's sort of in this in this calm [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► and peaceful piano music and then the [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► Terminator appears and we immediately [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► get it [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► just this this just simply ball that [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► happens it's is very casio the phrase i [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► wrote down in my notes is action info [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► pulse [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► is shitty that I wrote [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► wow you know I i do have notes on that [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► scene between between the two of them [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► because that's that is my favorite scene [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► in the whole movie because i'm being [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► sloppy know girls that we can still play [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► well for you [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► these many years later it really does [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► iced I got tears this time just like I [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► do every single time and I I really did [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► like the music in that part I think [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► because it was so different from the [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► reference to the movie I was yeah it was [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► it wasn't this big spiky these days when [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► you get a scene like that movies quite [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► often you get this big swelling bit of [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► music that telling you what you're [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► supposed to feel doctor who I'm looking [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► at you are you get hella luya yeah in [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► this case it was super minimal and like [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► it just it leaves the viewer to feel [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► however they want to feel about that [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► scene without the note that I hate being [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► directed by music sometimes and and i [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► like that but then I think I blocked out [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► the fact that this has popped into it [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► can't so soon afterwards even something [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► like Miami Vice i remember from this era [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► they had their the you know Michael man [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► like to do the occasional moody moody [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► part so that would be the movie part it [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► would be that quiet kind of tingly synth [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► piano and that was like I think they did [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► that that is aged better because it was [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► it was meant to be low-key although i [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► think the bumble bumble the drum thing [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► pom-poms grandma still works pretty well [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► yeah that's the part that they kept [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► using right [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► yes we have jumped ahead i did want to [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► say after saying that this is no longer [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► a huge favorite of mine that I i still [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► like it a lot and largely because i can [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► remember how great it seemed in 1984 [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► when it came out and and how different [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► it was then a lot of the other yeah i'm [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► not sure what to do as you mentioned [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► earlier it's it's a little hard to [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► categorize this into a genre and then [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► there's a lot of there's a lot of horror [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► elements like a horror movie minutes [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► with a cyber but there's there's not [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► enough of like the kind of the tents [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► quiet the somebody's going to jump out [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► of your moments [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► to really be a horror movie so there's a [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► lot of action more technically I guess i [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► would say it's a monster movie [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► ok sure like I could see that but then [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► it's wrapped in sort of that that that [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► time time-travel creek it's like she's [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► like 40 around this it's burrito film [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► didn't make me hungry [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► yeah i think i need to eat something the [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► huh [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► it is i'm glad you mentioned the the her [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► riding up in her scooter at the [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► beginning when we first see sarah and [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► this isn't where the movie starts but [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► since you mentioned i'm going to win it [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► back just to mention that i watch this [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► with my wife and i and i was commenting [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► on the scooter which is like that so [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► eighties the boxee kind of scooter shape [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► it's a honda elite 120 and she's got her [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► hair and all that and then and then she [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► gets off and my hand and lauren just [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► says it's it's not the scooter it's the [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► acid washed guess jeans really put it [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► over the top it is but but one of the [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► things I love about that is even when [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► even now it helps you read is like this [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► is not somebody whose fate it determines [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► the fate of the human race right that's [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► the whole point is she's friendly [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► unassuming person she's the kind of gal [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► that gets ice cream scoop into her [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► pocket and Syngenta and you got the [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► blu-ray I rented the HD version from [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► itunes and that's the other thing I [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► remember is when I did watch this movie [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► for the first time which was after [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► Terminator came out it was a really [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► terrible SD you know TV probably TV [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► network transfer and it was awful and it [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► looks a lot better clean up they cleaned [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► it up pretty well and it's still it is [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► what it is but it was nice to see an hd2 [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► I did originally see this movie by long [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► before Terminator 2 I think mainly [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► because I heard it had horror elements [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► and I was always kind of into or as a [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► kid but it in my recollection this movie [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► seems like it just came and went from [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► the theater is almost instantly and and [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► we're really got huge was on video just [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► through word-of-mouth of people who had [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► seen it I've sense read that that it [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► actually is considered kind of a modest [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► hit of of the time period that was [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► released in which i think was like late [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► October [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► which is not a particularly high season [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► for 44 movies so do not hit that point [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► doesn't mean a whole lot but it really [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► doesn't surprise me that it wasn't like [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► a gigantic blockbuster because if if you [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► look at the marketing from the trailer [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► to the the poster which is just like [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► Arnold face it looks absolutely awful [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► tasting all the all the PR I mean the [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► trailer is so bad it looks like an ultra [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► low budget just piece of crap and none [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► of the one of the interesting effects or [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► you know I guess it would kind of be a [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► bit of a spoiler to show Arnold in all [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► torn up with the robot parts coming [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► through and so I guess it's good from [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► that perspective but it certainly [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► doesn't make you want to run out and [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► watch the movie so this movie starts by [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► the way with the year 2029 los angeles [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► in the most eighties computer font ever [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► you know I always forget that it starts [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► in the future I mean as many times as i [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► watch this i always forget about how [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► much happens in the future with the [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► crazy models and a little skulls [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► disintegrating and stuff makes me happy [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► every time holla motion which is [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► surprisingly well done I've got their [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► parts of this that don't hold up well [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► but i think a lot of that particularly [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► the big treaded gigantic robot that that [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► drives around crushing massive piles of [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► skulls and shooting at people lot of [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► skulls and that's a that's a very [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► well-done piece of work right there it [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► looks fairly authentic even today [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► yeah they've got the and and then it [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► comes back not only is there the [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► beginning but then there's this sort of [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► future flashforward that happens later [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► in the movie so we spend more time than [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► I ever remember in this movie seeing [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► this this future wasteland with the [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► rusty like rusty cars from the eighties [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► that that are driving around but it's [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► pretty cool and and then one of the [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► things I really like is that this is [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► obviously the theme that camera is [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► trying to have in this movie is about [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► the machines because we see these giant [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► machines in the future and then the next [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► thing we see is like that big trash [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► truck dump truck tow truck whatever it [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► is another huge machine in the present [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► and this throughout this movie we keep [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► seeing robots and machines and stuff [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► like that to say you know basically [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► they're here [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► they are they're all around us kind of [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► thing but i like it i it wasn't it [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► didn't seem totally hammered home it was [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► it was more it was I thought really [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► nicely done when we get to the president [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► there's that big truck [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► well that's cool too because for a [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► second you're not aware that you're in [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► the present so right you're looking at [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► the lift arms on this trash truck and [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► you're thinking oh well we're still in [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► the post-apocalyptic future and then [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► tell the driver says what the hell and [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► opens the film with that line in just a [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► few seconds later you get the little toy [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► truck being completely crushed under the [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► tread of a bigger of the mega-resort [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► something that's not a skull but it you [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► know I get it I get it [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► yeah yeah I like that that was what [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► that's how mean the Terminator is that [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► he drives over somebody's toy truck [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► Oh bad guy so so the Terminator appears [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► in a flash of lightning and stuff and [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► he's totally naked [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► yes we see an awful lot of Arnold model [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► are yes indeed I he's got uh he visits [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► with a a quartet of Punk's a trio trio [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► Punk's you're right 30 Punk's one of [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► them is Bill Paxton yes I had never [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► noticed that before I have another thing [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► i always forget I knew that but i always [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► forget that he's in this and the end and [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► one of whom is the guy who played the [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► alien bounty hunter in the x-files [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► yes I told that was this was the first [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► time i picked that out and he was also [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► one of the master's apprentices and [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► buffy the vampire slayer that first [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► season of that he's been Brian [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► something-or-other he's been in a [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► million things but I was like is that [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► guy so he was so the Terminator give me [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► a close there's some words David those [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► give them to me now [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► No nice night for a walk but the in one [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► respect it's nice that this film doesn't [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► have very many Arnold lines because we [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► can recite them all of course this box [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► and stripping there's no reason to hold [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► back and then Michael Biehn shows up as [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► well yeah [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► sorry and he gets his eighties clothes [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► and this is this is the parallel so [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► we've got try it's hard to put yourself [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► in the mind of the filmgoers the AV mode [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► Steve you you SAT through this movie [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► upfront we're not it's not really clear [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► whoo-hoo shorts- really is that he's a [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► robot in fact it seems like the movie is [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► trying to play with like this question [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► of is is Michael being good or bad even [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► at this point although i think it's [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► pretty clear that he's gonna be good i [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► think just by virtue of the fact that [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► you've got one guy that's clearly evil [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► you know he picks up and killing people [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► although that's not necessarily a bad [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► thing it could be in hiring so you [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► assume that the guy that comes after is [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► the cop right [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► yeah yeah the one thing that bothers me [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► a little bit is is Reese's running from [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► the cops he he does a little bargain [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► clothes shopping which is which is sort [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► of amusing he's so little concerned [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► about the police that are chasing him [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► that he takes the time to measure the [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► shoes up to his feet make sure they're [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► gonna fit well you know these are these [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► are softies these are these are folks [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► that are alive before the big war so you [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► think you can probably take well he's [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► covered with scars which we've already [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► seen I mean that first shot of him [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► getting up from good the ground he's [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► he's got all sorts of very old very [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► nasty-looking scars on his back so we [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► already know he's pretty tough but that [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► just kind of drives the point home you [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► see he's picking out a nice shirt and [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► and some and some cool kik said some [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► nikes which may be an early instance of [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► some product placement although this is [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► so low budget i doubt that actually [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► happened but but the thing that bothers [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► me is he still is wearing the pants that [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► he pulled off the bomb in the alley [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► yes and he never changes it several [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► times during the movie I just looked at [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► him and five [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► you know those pants probably smell like [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► pee that's what I'm thinking and the [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► whole love scene that's all performed [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► with the pee soaked pants oh why did [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► y'all go and ruin it for music happen [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► these are the times [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► no no that's not how strong their love [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► is they were truly meant to be because [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► she can get past right now [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► alright well I mean he has thats that [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► sweet line that he lays on her i came [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► across time for you yes that for you [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► know that's a quality line because it it [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► it had to be to overcome the fact that [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► he's still wearing the bum [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► but yeah you know he's gotta be rancid [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► that whole thing i'm just wondering you [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► know why don't you pick out some new [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► pants and I'm thinking that you maybe [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► school that maybe like sit well in the [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► future in the Machine Holocaust those [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► bums pants are considered clean that's [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► can't pinpoint that's true you know [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► mhm you know it's tough in the future he [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► it's a it's a smell of home in fact I [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► bet that I betcha [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► the other thing here is we're introduced [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► to Reese that's a little strange that he [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► also has some pretty serious hair [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► feathering going on every style comes [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► back around eventually we have all the [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► things to survive the apocalypse I would [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► never have expected the bryan adams [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► haircut to make it but he's got it and [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► it's it's pretty well groomed for a [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► future dude he wears it well that and [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► that's an effect of the of the time [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► travel [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► thanks to the fact that you're here [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► tricity in there you didn't like strips [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► off your clothes feathers your hair [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► kinda mooses you a little bit yeah if [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► you go to the eighties it maybe some [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► other decade the hairstyle is different [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► but in the eighties and that's what [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► happens [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► so when we perfect time travel basically [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► you get up in the morning time travel [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► forward one minute and then you're done [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► for you know your preparations for the [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► day I gotta do is put on some deodorant [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► wow I want that yeah forget this going [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► back in time and kill Hitler business i [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► just want the haircut it's just don't [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► want to do my hair and so there's [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► another lady nice lady named Sarah [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► Connor who is has the unfortunate is [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► this movie but by the way brought to you [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► by the phone book [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► pour one out for the cellphone payphones [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► in the phone book [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► let your fingers do the walking isn't a [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► little strange that the last remaining [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► humans were still able to give Rhys the [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► special training needed to look in the [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► phone book and use it was probably an [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► elder a tribal elder in 2020 that said I [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► gotta go to pages there was four books [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► well they probably have a bunch of bunk [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► phone book somewhere and they're just [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► using them as like toilet papers [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► warehouse i assume the nuclear holocaust [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► they all burnt up right now but he knows [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► and and Arnold nose and I can sort of i [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► can sort of understand why the [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► Terminator would know because that [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► probably is in the database somewhere in [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► the program whether they're gonna say [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► look you there's no searchable anything [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► on the internet right now so it you know [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► so what you're going to have to do on [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► the skynet so what you're gonna have to [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► do is there these printed directories [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► and you look at them and so so there are [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► three Sarah Connors in la fortunately [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► our sarah connor is the third one and so [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► we visit we visit the the nice lady [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► sarah connor who is horribly murdered by [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► the the Terminator which is our first [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► firsthand Arnold Schwarzenegger or I [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► guess that's not even the first in a bad [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► guy and he's coming for Sarah Connor [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► very bad guy [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► help meanwhile Michael beam has seen a [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► large machine at a construction site and [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► I think if those pants didn't already [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► smell like pee [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► yeah and then he has a little flash [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► forward of big machines that killed [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► everybody in that the beach of skulls [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► what where the other body parts i asked [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► you to collect the skulls and make like [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► piles of skulls and another place [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► there's like ribs the skulls tend to [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► tend to be on top there well organized [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► as the people get shot all the the other [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► bones drop and the skulls land on top [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► they have used for the other body parts [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► they are machines they might like to put [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► them in like organize them and sort them [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► into a good point well they may have a [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► whole khadra humans that just sort the [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► bones and sort of sales and one spot [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► like the guys that have to run the [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► disposal units all day and not there's [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► also bone sorters that's good that makes [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► me that makes you feel better having fun [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► with it doesn't really make any man can [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► we talk a little bit about his next [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► flash forward there [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► oh yeah and he sees the the construction [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► machine I i really liked it because I [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► mean when I think about this movie [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► overall it's it's your stereotypical a [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► dude goes back in time and he's saving a [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► lady in blah blah blah but when he gets [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► forward his his fellow soldier who's [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► running around with him in and trying to [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► take out the giant machines is a woman [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► yeah so I just I thought that was really [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► cool right right at the beginning there [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► that you see it yeah the future maybe [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► the gender lines aren't going to be [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► quite so strictly drawn because you know [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► we just need to survive and ignore all [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► that BS that sort of comes along with it [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► now so that that seemed really perked me [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► up this time watching it and there's a [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► whole line later where [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► says that the women of his time are good [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► fighters that's the first thing that [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► comes to his mind [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► yes exactly like it of course she gets [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► killed but just about everybody in the [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► future gets killed so that's I think she [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► largely disintegrates and maybe the [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► skull is all that's left [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► ah maybe that's how it works [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► could be yeah I like that I like that [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► line later where he's like I you know [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► they're there they're warriors they're [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► very strong warriors women are the [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► future what do you mean I don't know [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► what you're talking about so glad [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► Henrickson and paul winfield eighties [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► cops they're the original lethal weapons [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► so excited to see the guy from wrath of [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► khan and you recognize him for what's [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► and mr. millennium yeah [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► oh I have such a huge Lance Henriksen [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► crisis i'll always be a bishop to me [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► yes well he gave up that's why I think [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► that's the source of my land Henry [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► single conviction [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► this is true you're right you know [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► rightly so absolutely [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► so there there in the eighties police [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► precinct before that we have the great [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► scene in the gun shop with Arnold [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► picking out is always up for that ok [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► he's picking out his new his armory is [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► portable armory [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► so if you own a gun shop wouldn't you be [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► hesitant to give people the materials to [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► arm themselves and then kill you and [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► take the guns [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► it does seem a little odd although this [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► gun shop owner does make a point of [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► saying any one of these is ideal for [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► home defense as Arnold as are looking at [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► his e 9 millimeters he might not be [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► entirely balanced to begin with [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► hey this guy looks like the governor [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► I'll trust him they got the time wrong [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► they're talking a little early [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► here's where we get roughly two-thirds [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► of Arnold's lines he reads on religious [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► guns that he looked about the phase [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► plasma cannon do you have one of those [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► in the 40-watt range [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► yeah it's just what you see here but [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► alright that I would kill you now that's [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► the whole scene wrong well that's that [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► might be his very first that wrong right [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► there might be his very first quip huh [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► I'm not sure he got any approach it at [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► Arnold clips in Conan I like the when [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► the cops i think it is call Sarah Connor [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► they get the the annoying answering [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► answering machine that i think is her [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► roommate [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► yes and that that's great because again [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► we're talking about these all these [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► machine things that happened in this [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► movie and that's the hi there [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► fooled you you're talking to a machine [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► yeah oh and it follows up with oh but [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► machines need love too [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► yes no ginger it doesn't go well for her [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► yes it seems a little odd that the they [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► would send the car that's watching [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► Sarah's house out on a call in order for [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► Arnold to walk up to the house you know [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► the bad luck it's not well it's not good [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► policing I'll tell you that no now one [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► Lance Henriksen would be very angry [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► about it later if he weren't dead then [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► nipple [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► timing is everything so so i'm sarah [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► connor is being stalked by michael biehn [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► which is funny she knows he's following [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► her and she's uh she's kind of creeped [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► out by that so she ducks into a swinging [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► nightclub called tech Noir [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► I know it's on pico it is on pico I know [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► yeah I find it hard to believe that that [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► that middle-aged police detective paul [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► winfield knows exactly where tech nor in [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► this this crappy like restaurant [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► converted into a really awful my club is [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► like they've tried to break up some [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► break dancing competitions that got out [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► of control or something yeah I just like [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► I felt like the idea that that that was [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► just giving us a little bit of a [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► backstory for him in a very subtle way I [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► think his character fleshed out a little [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► bit for me when he gave that line he [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► knows he also used to work the beat on [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► pico and so he knows where all the [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► businesses are on that's much less [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► interesting yeah you're right it sure is [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► also take more probably has only been [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► there for about like five days are done [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► believing it's a long-serving member of [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► the los angeles club scene i think both [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► Winfield and Hendricks and make them [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► make the best of their few moments on [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► screen in this movie [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► given that given how little time they [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► have I think we get a pretty good [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► fleshing out of their characters you [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► know Winfield of course the [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► long-suffering lieutenant and and [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► hendrickson you know he's he's got a lot [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► of stories he'd like to tell but chief [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► never lets him get to the end of the get [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► to the good part [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► is endlessly amused by thinks he's [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► seeing but the chief keeps him in line [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► its they're both pretty entertaining in [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► this they don't seem they seemed [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► competent to right i mean they're [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► they're they're dealing with something [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► that's completely outside of their of [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► their sphere of understanding and they [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► got they talk about its the phonebook [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► killer catchy name but they're actually [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► pretty fast buy it buy it buy standards [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► of these kinds of movies that they pick [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► up on after only two kills any other [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► horror movie it would take at least [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► three or four different different kills [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► and then it would still be the cops kind [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► of figuring out that there's a phonebook [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► killer that would be watching instead of [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► and refusing to believe it for no good [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► Yeah right [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► no there's not enough time in the in [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► this movie for them to be like that [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► right because and then not enough budget [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► to keep them around that many days yeah [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► so we've only got this police precinct [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► for these two scenes [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► that's her Megan County up there [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► actually is a little bit of a deleted [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► scene content with with lieutenant [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► Traxler paul winfield where he gradually [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► comes to believe Michael Biehn story uh [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► it was a it would end in the end is [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► they're leaving the building and he's [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► bleeding out he tells me he tells Kyle [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► you know you got to keep her safe but it [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► it really was pretty extraneous no he [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► didn't really need a character arc it's [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► actually a little better when he's just [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► kind of the anonymous police chief dies [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► technical or maybe my favorite thing in [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► this entire movie I've decided because [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► it is like the distilled eighties in oh [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► yeah that's a tease freebase right it is [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► so amazing but we cut away from tech [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► Noir to visit with ginger and her [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► boyfriend rick rossovich from top gun so [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► maybe bust you up man and Roxanne right [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► he's the dumb see that is inserted yes [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► yes yes yes I recognize him from okay so [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► here's the years we have two more [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► message that james cameron's laying down [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► here because ginger after having sex [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► with her boyfriend decides she really [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► wants a giant sandwich so I can argue so [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► she puts on her what I mean a giant said [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► not a little set a giant sandwich so [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► like a Dagwood kind of school [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► this is a writer who understands women [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► so she puts on her she puts on her [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► Walkman and I feel like this is a [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► commentary on you know we're shutting [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► out our world she's gonna be in it's the [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► middle of the night or whatever you put [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► on her Walkman she's gonna make herself [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► a giant sandwich and as a result she [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► doesn't even realize that there's a [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► killer cyborg in her apartment until [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► it's far too late [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► that's the scene that really it just [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► plays out like a slasher yeah sure flick [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► their that was one name that was when I [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► was watching it realizing this time how [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► much more the horror stands out the [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► science fiction than can I think about [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► it in hindsight I always remember the [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► syfy bit because I think it's the story [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► that really appeals to me but then [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► watching it play out it was it was a lot [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► more horror II you know definitely agree [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► that the you know that the headphones [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► was another nod to machine you know [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► yeah they're they're troublesome that's [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► actually very similar to a scene in [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► halloween where I think it's pj soles is [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► raiding the fridge well I was creeping [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► up on her so I may even be in the [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► category of homage but yet it plays out [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► very horror ESCA specialist she's [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► continuing to make your sandwich is her [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► boyfriend is being kicked all around the [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► room now [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► seriously look at look at that sandwich [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► it is it is the biggest in which you [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► will ever see it is awesome even if she [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► was making for herself and him and they [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► would be room for for the Terminator to [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► have some it is a huge sandwich that's [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► what I was no recollection of this film [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► I remember they're actually having been [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► more blood and guts and and having me [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► watched it I thought wow there's there's [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► very little i did i mention that because [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► this is the one scene is as the [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► boyfriend pops out of the door and says [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► no and in arnold then bursts out after [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► he's a little bloody and a little beaten [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► up and in bad shape but it's it's really [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► not bad and I i remember it being a lot [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► more i remember this the r-rating having [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► been earned a lot to a lot of cutting [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► away of you know you you the gun goes up [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► to 2.2 the person's head and then I were [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► first shot and you hear the the bang of [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► the gun but you don't see like there had [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► exploded the brains why it's like it's [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► the horror of you know what happened to [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► them and yeah and and I was I like the [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► restraint but also it's cheaper so [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► yeah there's that he did learn from [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► roger corman after all the man had to be [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► cheap sure she poor I mean that as a [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► compliment ya but ya know why they and [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► you could argue that you don't you don't [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► need that that's it you don't that's a [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► different kind of movie right you can [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► you can go with the blood and guts or [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► you can go with the the more [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► psychological of you know and that's the [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► point here is this is a relentless [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► killing machine [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► well that's the thing is I there isn't a [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► lot of blood and guts and yet i still [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► remember it as having been pretty [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► violent pretty pretty bloody and in fact [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► that's it was just me it's what you [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► don't see it you know what what's in [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► your head is going to be more horrific [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► than anything they can show you [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► so if they don't show you anything just [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► like oh I know what that was I don't [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► know about that hurts [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► well it's kinda like in psycho you never [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► actually see the knife plunging body but [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► everyone knows how i sought over she [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► fits over and over [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► no never happened uh let's see uh come [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► with me if you want to live [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► now i do want to say before we get to [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► that particular line that of the things [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► that I think still work pretty well in [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► this movie the scene in tech more tech [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► nor where the slow mo kind of kicks in [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► yeah the crappy eighties music slowly [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► gets more and more muffled by the bumble [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► that that scene is still wonderfully [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► tense and I think as effective as it was [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► in nineteen eighty-four which is good to [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► see this is the one seemed to where you [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► really get the payoff of or you know the [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► Terminator goes down right there [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► gunshots he goes down and and and you [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► earn that like he's not dead because [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► he's you know this magical creature is [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► it like a unicorn it just like but yeah [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► I guess I like all the technical stuff [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► but this is the moment and again i have [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► this line in my head because it's [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► repeated in the second terminator movie [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► from arnold schwarzenegger but here it's [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► not it's it's it's a car race who says [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► Michael being who says come with me if [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► you want to live and this is the moment [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► where we know now it's been revealed [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► he's a killer robot that's going to be [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► trying to kill sarah Conner we get a POV [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► shot for the first time we can talk [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► about the govt shot yes [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► so back in the day you know in the VHS [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► days you could try to pause during the [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► Terminator POV but you would get a bunch [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► of jittery tracking lines and that would [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► be about it you have no chance of ever [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► reading what's actually on the screen [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► during this POV shots [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► nowadays with blu-ray you can read it [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► and you can discover that you're looking [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► at somebody's assembly code with [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► comments no less i'm not entirely sure [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► why the t101 was programmed with [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► comments including comments that read [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► poke 16k Ram bank so he's got a 16k bank [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► of memory somewhere in inside that metal [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► skull you know which just a hair is like [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► a timex sinclair yeah so there's there's [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► some pretty old code you know in some in [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► some of these movies where you got a [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► cyborg or a robot POV what you end up [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► with him I think Terminator 2 is like [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► this it actually is showing you like [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► what the on-board computer system is is [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► is doing so would be like Target and you [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► know tracking sarah connor and all that [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► kind of stuff on the screen this movie [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► makes no attempt to do that at all it's [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► literally just like we put a red thing [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► so everything will look a little [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► different we got some computer crap that [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► will just appear and disappear i have [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► whatever some credit that they actually [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► did use something that came from a [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► computer its computer reference for a [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► little bit later you see an output of a [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► run from key perfect four-point-oh which [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► was a checksum generator when you use to [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► type in programs for magazines and and [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► you run this checksum generator to make [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► sure you didn't miss type one of the [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► various hex codes deep cuts to and so it [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► again in this case the file in question [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► is overlaid on object vly dot obj wow so [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► i did i did a little searching around [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► for overall I'd object the internet it [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► turns out that code was originally [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► written by harlan ellison back in [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► nineteen deep winter acknowledgement to [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► the computer programs a Harlan Ellison I [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► have no computer and I must code oh I i [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► saw ki perfect for dough and I just [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► started crying because wow you guys [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► tried but not not so hard [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► so much it did come from a computer but [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► it was nice of Skynet to leave the [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► comments it in this anybody wants to [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► dissect Arnold later and figure out what [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► makes his 16k Ram bank work [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► yeah you know I actually put in my notes [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► that that bit like I said watching this [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► was not as a quite as enjoyable as I [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► sort of remembered and i just put in my [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► notes this movie must have been before I [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► get bored with car chases [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► there's an awful lot of car chases going [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► on and I find extended car chases and [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► action scenes highly boring something [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► like in the the techno our action [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► sequence that that is fun to me that [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► that by going nuts are choreographed for [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► ya when it goes on and on i just i get i [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► get a little bored so I appreciate the [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► exposition part of it but I felt like it [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► was the chasing didn't need to go on [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► quite as long as well it's not just car [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► chases either roughly two-thirds of this [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► movie is somebody being chased you know [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► where it's either on foot or in cars [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► will get the cops chasing read through [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► the department store we get the giant [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► future robot chasing reach through the [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► hellish future scape Terminator chases [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► recent Sarah on foot from tech Noir [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► there's a car chase that he chases him [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► later on a motorcycle and he chases him [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► a fuel truck then the skeleton chases [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► recent Sarah the Machine job and then [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► the skeleton torso slow-speed chase and [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► Sara through the hydraulic press [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► yep and then thankfully the chases are [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► over but it's really very chase heavy [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► Phil yeah I felt like they could they [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► could shorten it could shorten it down [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► to like a half-hour episode of of some [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► TV show and I would have probably been [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► just like sitting with the outer limits [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► you don't typically see the last Chase [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► is that the top of the press catches up [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► with the bottom of the press [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► oh that's a good point the last last [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► well then maybe the kid like chases [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► sarah connor to take her photo could be [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► there you go yeah and she's chasing a [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► storm at the very and she is i just [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► realized there's probably like a [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► 45-minute cassette tape somewhere in [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► your Jeep about how to use the yellow [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► pages [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► oh yeah that's good [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► the UH this is the image of the [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► exposition here is that Kyrie stels her [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► he's not a robot is a sideboard this can [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► happen 40 years ago i wrote down I i do [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► like this line a lot it's the it can't [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► be bargained with [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► a reason with it doesn't feel pity or [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► fear it won't stop until you're dead [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► yeah that's really nice and and that's [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► what I like about about this monster [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► movies horror movie that's also a sci-fi [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► movie is so often you get these you get [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► these creatures that keep coming and you [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► kill them and they they're still alive [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► and they keep coming and here that's the [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► premise of the Terminator is it will [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► just keep coming all it does kill it [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► can't be reasoned with you can so we get [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► a we get a car chase with some [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► exposition it [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► I like that she thats Sarah buys into [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► what reeses telling her fairy fairly [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► quickly here which is somewhat realistic [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► given that she's just seen him you know [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► shot with a shotgun multiple times and [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► then get up right but she initially [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► tries to get away [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► she's in a panic and then she eventually [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► settles in that you know about probably [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► that guy shouldn't have been getting up [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► and walking towards me so we don't need [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► to go through 20 minutes of her [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► continuing to try to get away from [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► research into any any silliness like [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► that the line that i liked happened [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► during that scene where you know she's [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► trying to bite him or stabbed or [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► whatever it is and and he says to her [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► cyborgs don't feel pain i do don't do [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► that again so it's a good line it also [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► really just sort of delineate that [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► difference between you know i am the [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► human here who has come to help you he [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► is on the other side you know I'm the [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► good guy and she does get it pretty [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► quick [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► also after he while he's driving and he [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► tells about about the Terminator and all [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► that he then recounts the entire plot of [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► Terminator to essentially conveniently [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► forward promoting the next movie in the [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► series I thought that was really nice [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► one thing that bothers me in this scene [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► i realized that Reese has to be scarred [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► up noticeably but did they have to stick [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► one right under the corner of his mouth [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► maybe this whole scene it looks like as [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► a chunk of spaghetti stuck to this gym [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► it in the parking garage they have this [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► they have this rapid exchange of gunfire [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► followed by more cars driving around the [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► chase but but the the thing that really [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► struck me about this is that after [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► immediately following this massive [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► exchange of gunfire they're rolling in [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► separate aisles and the Terminator [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► shooting out their windows and they're [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► shooting back and all of that as soon as [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► that's over [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► sara is sitting there like she's [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► go into the 7-eleven or something and [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► that was the moment that really broke it [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► for me where I thought you know she [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► should be really freaked out and she [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► totally I think it's just something [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► about the way it was directed at the way [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► that they were thinking about it seemed [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► like a mistake to me she's just [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► completely like she's just taking a ride [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► somewhere [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► one thing that's always kind of bothered [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► me about his whole long exposition on [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► the future and and what went down [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► he points out that the old Terminator [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► models had rubber skin but these new [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► ones are much harder to spot ya [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► it strikes me when we later see the [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► Hubble that he lives in and all the [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► emaciated people who eat nothing but [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► gruel and rats you know just look for [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► the gigantic Austrian yeah that's [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► probably your terminated the one that's [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► not all you know it looks like he just [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► got out of a death camp that's the one [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► he's the Terminator shoot him would be [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► this this movie The Matrix have a lot in [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► common right sun post-apocalypse [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► machines take control [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► there's a are they real humans are the [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► machines you know there are a lot of lot [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► of those things that these things have [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► in common and that means it's sensible [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► that did it would have to be a fairly [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► muscle-bound looking human because they [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► have that huge skeleton they've got a [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► cover-up sure but he doesn't blend in [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► with the crowd very well no I it's [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► unclear to me if there are humans being [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► kept as pets somewhere else in there [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► what why do you build I mean I you think [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► that if you're building the Terminator [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► soy blend in and fight the humans that [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► they would like you said match the [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► humans and not look like big well-fed [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► muscley Austrians yes I don't know that [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► they necessarily need to blend in for [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► that long I think they're just trying to [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► infiltrate because really as soon as [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► they got through the door [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► it's you know the dogs sniffed amount of [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► dollars you know you just started firing [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► he just needed to get through the door [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► he's under like a cowl or something but [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► even underneath the cal you would expect [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► you know the bulging biceps to make [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► themselves pretty obvious right was that [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► huge guy with us when we went out pretty [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► serious was it oh well I want some gruel [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► and I got some rats to wait for me said [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► the Terminator gets wounded by the way [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► we have what I think is maybe the [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► grossest thing in this movie which is [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► the exacto knife to the I self-surgery [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► that's getting [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► yeah yeah I have to say for Arnold say [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► what you will about his acting [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► capabilities but his vaguely robotic [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► acting is I think pretty darn good in [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► this movie [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► yeah particularly in the in the cop car [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► is he's scanning and and kind of like [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► trying to locate where they're hidden [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► out in the other car he does a pretty [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► fine job of looking robotic here and [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► there's some nice subtle makeup work [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► that helps here too i think but he's [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► decent in this movie it [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► he's also very much better than the fake [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► Arnold head that we see in a couple of [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► scenes but see that's what i'm saying is [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► they set up that the fake Arnold head it [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► works a lot better than it should [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► because of the work the way you really [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► are in the film and and also that makeup [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► work that they have on him in that car [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► seen it right he already looks a little [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► fake at that point that's true the to [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► pull the police psychologist who talks [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► to 2a oh god I left elbow and is the [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► criminal psychologist he's definitely [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► one of those he's that guy he is a high [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► quality grade a eighties movie douchebag [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► well that's always going to say is he [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► this this is the same role as William [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► Atherton and go to 70 i generally Oh No [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► decade and films ever produced more [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► wonderfully smarmy bastard that he is so [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► good at this and he shows up in the [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► other films to is every called isn't he [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► oh yeah he's in the second why he's in [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► the second and the third is that he [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► Sarah's keep her at the institution and [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► I think you're right attitude you know [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► you're right so he made it he made an [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► impact during his short scene [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► yeah oh no it's a good it's a good you [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► know hehe is the just like just like [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► women and ghostbusters he is this [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► authority figure that thinks he knows [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► everything and in a normal world he [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► would be right but this is the sci-fi [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► world and he's completely wrong he [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► pauses the tape to talk about i could [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► make so much money just you know taking [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► this guy out on the carnival circuit [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► illusions are brilliant but he never [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► really finds out that he's wrong because [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► when i first saw him I was like isn't [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► that the guy from the second unit seems [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► that seems weird i just assumed he would [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► get killed but then he walks out of the [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► police station just as Arnold's coming [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► in so he gets to go home and he you know [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► he gets to eat up whatever excuse the [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► police end up trying to come up with 44 [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► what happened just no terrorist [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► whatever random generic thing is so he [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► can go on believing that he was right [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► the whole time and he finally gets to [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► lock her up later on [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► he's the expert somehow he gets a page [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► so he has to look down to clear his [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► pager [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► well we're at the we're at that moment [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► now we're a visitor pays pays a visit [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► today LOL what is that Jason well it's [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► it's a it's a classic moment where [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► Arnold Schwarzenegger decides he's going [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► to go in the front door of the police [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► station and just sort of state of the [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► back see if he could he can check in and [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► provide some ID and that doesn't happen [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► and so he wants to reassure the clerk at [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► the front desk that uh that that he'll [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► be back [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► I think your plight of him to do that [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► iconic scene for a reason because it's [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► hilarious [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► it really it's got that Indiana Jones [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► shooting the swordsman gotta feel do it [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► well and that the funny thing i mean [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► people quote the line but the funny [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► thing is not just that he says he'll be [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► back it's that he's back immediately [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► with a car driving through the front of [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► the police station [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► well he also holds back a little and he [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► looks any kind of sizes up the the [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► tensile strength of the partition that [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► get a desk clerk is hi I'm behind which [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► is a nice bit and then yes he's right [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► back [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► he didn't say how long it would be [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► before you don't know that there's also [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► that really nice [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► it seems extraneous at the time but it [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► suddenly becomes incredibly important [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► which is he [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► he can't hurt you here we got like 30 [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► guys here which we are you can see to [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► see him killed my goal and connects [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► thanks for giving us the body count up [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► front [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► yeah we got 30 guys kill 30 guys and [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► then the Terminator comes and he just [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► just starts killing all the cops which [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► wich after after the comp massacre is [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► done there's this scene where they're [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► looking at the TV and there's this a.m [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► and I was thinking there's no way that [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► 30 cops would be shot dead in downtown [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► Los Angeles and there'd be like story [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► number three on the local news is though [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► there was an incident at the police [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► station right there's no way that would [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► be bad for the eighties this was bad for [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► 3 24 hour news so you know know if that [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► if if if the 30-30 guys police station [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► were were shot to death they would [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► listen to it then [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► you see you were there there there [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► listening to the radio and they talk [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► about the largest manhunt has been [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► spotted in California history of [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► yeah doesn't get on it fairly fast ya [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► sure it's just it surprised me that it [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► wasn't quite as bad as a freak out as [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► well this is late at night this is this [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► is a this is post John shoe back time at [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► this point so they the kid he kills [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► everybody basically uh and and then [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► sarah & and reefs have to escape we get [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► another nice little horror scene in [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► there too as you know is it the [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► Terminator inside the door outside the [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► door the shadow outside the door but [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► hiding under the desk [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► it's it's it's kyle reese instead and [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► they escape along with their accomplice [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► a very rapidly played synthesizer for [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► that don't have a little by little the [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► horrible now that's it you got it you [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► build it you can be the score for [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► terminator four five six [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► whatever genocide I they had a bit [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► underpass or something like an underpass [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► I don't know it's an underpass alright [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► ya hear cars driving overhead and this [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► is where this is where we get the [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► another flash forward right his future [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► time [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► yep this one's long another enormous man [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► verse percent shoot everybody now this [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► happens all the time [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► filthy people eat gruel there are rats [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► that are eating as well and Sarah's [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► picture turns up [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► yeah we use television sets as make sure [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► fireplaces the future is not so bad [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► friend [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► that's a good honestly i would i would [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► enjoy that more than some TV shows I'm [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► scenically yeah it's been that kind of [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► season there's that there's a little pre [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► discussion in the in the underpass about [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► about what John Connor is like and the [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► rice line here where she asks him to [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► describe her son and and recess he's [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► about my height which is a nice little [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► bit of foreshadowing you know I really [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► like that she she keeps throughout the [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► whole film she keeps asking him you know [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► talk to me tell me more things that is [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► absolutely [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► kind of thing that would help me through [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► such a awful situation like that just [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► you know keep talking keep my mind [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► occupied and that seems like a really [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► simple and realistic thing to do and I'm [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► I've been trying to think of other films [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► that that that sort of thing happens and [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► it doesn't happen as often as I feel [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► like it should you get the impression [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► that she has pretty good instincts for [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► survival and she she whips up a pretty [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► good field dressing on his arm on her [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► first try [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► you and I i assume that part of why she [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► keeps asking for description is because [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► she needs to store it up for use later [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► she's already kind of sensing that she's [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► she's got the weight of the world on her [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► shoulders and so she's preparing well [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► she says do I look like the mother of [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► the future but this is this story is in [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► that way this is this is sara realizing [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► who she's going to be and it's not like [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► who she needs to be and she has to [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► change who she is it's like she's [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► capable of doing these things and so she [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► does them in the future and it's a it's [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► quite a transformation I mean it's not [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► quite as much a transformation is the [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► first time we see her in Terminator 2 [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► but but it's quite a transformation from [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► when she's on that scooter at the [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► beginning when she's driving into the [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► mountains at the end I think right yeah [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► steven says you know you're talking [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► about things I haven't done yet in the [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► past tense it's driving me crazy [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► I bet that it's kind of a mind trip [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► actually takes it really well she does a [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► pretty good job of a kind of having the [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► duality of her character come out in [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► this because you even towards the end [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► where she tells Reese you know you stand [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► up soldier [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► she still sounds like kind of the cutesy [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► trendy sarah connor of earlier [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► she's not she's not made the full [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► transition even at that point so she [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► does have a pretty pretty good job with [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► this character she does i think one of [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► the other things that i noticed we got [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► all our car chases watching her toughen [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► up throughout she even suddenly plays it [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► differently when they're in the car [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► doing the chases from from one to the [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► next to the next the chasing at the end [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► when she's driving that truck [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► she's driving with way more [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► determination than she was driving the [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► car earlier so she just but it's not [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► over-the-top it's not like she's totally [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► perfect at it yet it's if it's a [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► believable amount of transformation and [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► she plays it well I they end up at the [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► motel where she asks like we talked [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► about earlier [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► tell me about the women in your time was [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► there one was there someone [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► no no there there good warriors and then [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► he talks about her picture and how you [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► were locked in a great line you were [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► young like you are now I love the tenses [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► in the grammar of this film could see [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► you seem so sad and of course we will [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► see that scene where that picture is [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► taken later in the movie [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► this is the point to where Sarah gives [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► her quote and quote mom the hotel phone [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► number so apparently your instincts [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► aren't so good after all [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► oh yeah but it gives us that that [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► wonderful pan across the darkened cabin [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► up in Big Bear as we kind of take in [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► that huge shotgun hole in the door and [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► we realized that's probably not mom [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► talking and then yet suddenly it's [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► revealed yet its determinant another [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► power of the turbine which we got a [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► little bit of earlier when he speaks as [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► the cop on the on the radio so little [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► setup their pays off nicely those of you [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► who like michael biehn i'm going to say [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► something that maybe you will dislike [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► but I'm not gonna throw it out there [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► that this moment having watched the this [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► is the this scene between the living [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► Hamilton michael biehn in the motel room [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► i thought to myself i think this guy's [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► not very charismatic with this move with [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► this movie have been more effective if [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► there was somebody who is a bigger star [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► or a bigger personality in this part [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► because he seems kinda like a cipher to [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► yeah how do i love him i find him just [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► he's he's not over-the-top he's not [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► super charismatic he just he's a real [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► person he's a soldier he's he's a virgin [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► I mean this is gonna be the kind of guy [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► who's super smooth and comes and sweeps [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► her off her feet [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► he's just trying to get the job done and [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► make her safe and I think that in itself [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► just the fact that he just cares so much [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► is is much more endearing than it would [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► have been if he was you know giving her [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► a wink and equip or something like that [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► i just i would like the way he played [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► the character it was underplayed and for [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► me that completely work and it's not [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► just because he's dreamy [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► I change back there during other parts [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► of the movie i have some problems with [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► him I I think he could have been a bit [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► stronger as an actor but in this I think [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► in this lead up to the love scene I [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► think he's actually pretty good he looks [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► yeah delightfully uncomfortable with [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► what's going on like he's not really [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► sure what you almost like a little kid [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► who's about to have his first experience [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► you know [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► I think he does that very well there are [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► there other sequences where I feel like [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► you know maybe a little more emphasis on [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► certain lines would have to work i'll [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► give you that yeah and-and-and as Jason [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► noted earlier they come with me if you [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► want to live which turned out to be an [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► iconic line is is it's kind of a clunker [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► it's deliver he yeah it it's an iconic [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► line in the second second movie right [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► well I mean but it's in the second movie [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► because it was iconic from the first we [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► well yeah he's fine i just i i gotta [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► tell you when i think about this movie I [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► think about Arnold Schwarzenegger and I [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► think about linda hamilton and then I [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► know Michael Biehn is the other person [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► in this movie and I try to picture him I [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► try to think about his character [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► I can't he just doesn't register for me [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► he is just a blank and maybe that's good [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► in that you know John Connor is the [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► leader in the future and if his his dad [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► was this super charismatic guy who's [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► just you know who you know the the [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► mother made this intelligent indelible [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► impression on her and now he's the super [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► charismatic charismatic guy who's [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► working for John Connor and it's gonna [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► get set back in time maybe it doesn't [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► work maybe he does need to just be a [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► foot soldier and kind of anonymous but [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► as a movie it always struck me how the [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► other two main characters in this our [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► are immediately come to mind and even [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► like Lance Henriksen and paul winfield [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► are more I don't notable for me than him [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► he just doesn't I don't know there's [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► something about him he just doesn't [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► register for me and I think it it works [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► for me [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► exactly because of that because the [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► footsoldier thing that he's yeah yes [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► someone who should be forgotten [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► I mean not that he should be forgotten [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► but it doesn't make sense if he is this [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► you know it's like oh well he made this [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► huge sacrifice no he's just a guy and it [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► would overshadow Sarah and would [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► overshadow John buddy i'm with you guys [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► we're kind of in the rest of the movie I [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► wanted maybe a little bit more and I [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► think his most painful line read is [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► probably the message he brings back from [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► John Connor the whole the whole [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► soliloquy where it goes into you must [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► live so that I can be [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► just it doesn't play at all and and part [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► of that's not at all i think that light [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► actually frankly that whole sequence [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► should probably have been scrapped [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► because it makes John seemed like a [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► dweeb to em but it's also yeah maybe [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► there's no proper way to perform that [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► line is clunky as it is [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► uh-oh he's a michael biehn is also the [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► really the antagonist in James Cameron's [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► movie the abyss which I love a whole lot [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► and I I find him not particularly [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► interesting in that movie either so and [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► he's actually not tremendously [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► interesting in aliens either should [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► point to pick and yet I like him in all [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► three of those movies there's something [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► here is Matt yeah even as he even as [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► he's not a terrific actor I think [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► there's something just in his life [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► interesting [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► it's like it's like some sort of weird [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► reverse hidden charisma [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► I don't understand just like an old that [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► only that only some of us can see maybe [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► it's pity I don't know [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► ok anyway I that's my that was that was [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► something that struck me again in an [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► hour watching that weekend we then get [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► things we talked about which is there's [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► more more Terminator POV with random [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► code we did skip over what is probably [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► my favorite line in the movie [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► oh yeah okay as Arnold is looking [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► through Sarah's little phone book and [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► finding mom's cabin phone number and [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► beginning to rot as we see his face is [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► starting to come apart and analyzer are [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► clinging to him and that the custodian [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► wanders by and catches a whiff of him [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► and says hey buddy you got a dead cat in [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► there or what [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► and that's where we see the POV shot of [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► it trying to select an appropriate [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► response to open it finally comes upon [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► fuck you asshole yeah yeah just it which [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► is wonderful it's nice to have some [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► lightness in the middle of everything [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► many options there are various degrees [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► which is funny and he chose just the [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► right one he picked a winner the [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► delivery is not so great [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► yeah but the line is good well he's a [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► he's a cyborg from the future he doesn't [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► know what it means he's just you know [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► picking something out right well yet [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► comes back to he doesn't have to carry [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► on the the masquerade for very long [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► usually so the voice module wasn't [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► something they have to spend a whole lot [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► of time on in fact one one wonders why [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► they even bothered [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► yeah and he's not used to the colorful [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► metaphors of the past ah yes double the [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► mass on you and so forth [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► that is already a colorful an hour of [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► the past this is this is where I have [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► the m-my at action simple streets quick [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► method note it's time it's time for the [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► crank up the synth music and have a a [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► tot car chase just hit the demo button [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► on the chasm [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► so so let me tell you I find it a high [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► degree of difficulty to try and detonate [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► a bomb by looking at the fuse checking [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► it out the back of a moving vehicle and [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► hoping minute hits a guy on a motorcycle [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► dead-on [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► well this is why he never comes and he [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► never gets close i wrote those are some [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► pretty useless pipe bombs at this point [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► yeah and and i'm not even sure why he [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► bothers because it there doesn't appear [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► to be any shrapnel there's just a big [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► puff of smoke yeah you have emerged from [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► the pipeline he's over to just knock him [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► off the bike maybe they'll just get back [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► up and get back on my bike I don't know [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► it just provides an opportunity for him [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► to ride his motorcycle dramatically out [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► of the cloud yes that's true which is [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► nice so nice [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► sure but it's just really an effective [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► weapon against the Terminator all those [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► later proves to be useful useful twice [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► yeah but not not when chuck from the [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► backdrop of a truck [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► yeah he should have saved them to use a [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► new better circumstances later perhaps [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► yeah thats i agree a better actor would [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► have no so he does something so he does [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► end up the Terminator ends up on in the [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► gas truck that flipped the the car flips [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► over and and he'll he he flies off his [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► motorcycle and then he gets in the gas [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► truck and this is I really like that [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► moment where the exterminator is is a [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► hit by the truck that's a funny that's a [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► really funny moment that right and then [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► he's dragged quite a ways yes no yes [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► well and the great part of that is it [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► tears off another good chunk of his face [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► so we have got great scene where he gets [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► into the cab and the guy says let's get [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► out of here and it's actually Arnold and [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► now we get a good full shot of of more [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► of the skeleton being revealed under [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► racial that's that's good stuff that's [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► the that's really nice [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► so I'm sorry sticks a bomb in the gas [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► truck and I think this is as they're [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► being chased i should point [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► yeah and i think this is a funny uh cool [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► moment where you see Linda Hamilton [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► running and the and the bomb goes off in [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► the gas truck does rain fire down [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► everywhere it's in the dumpster where [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► michael biehn is hiding and he has to [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► roll out of the dumpster and stop stop [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► drop and roll to extinguish the flames [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► I think I thought that was really it's [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► it's very clearly [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► rear projection but I thought that was a [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► really cool cool little bit where the [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► with a gas truck [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► I mean if you're gonna put a pipe bomb [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► in a giant truck full of gasoline it [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► better blow up good and it does it does [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► that's a nice explosion and you're right [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► you don't usually get that sort of [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► attention to detail where the dumpster [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► is also in flames [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► yeah it's like raining down fire [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► everywhere and and I like that he could [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► he kinda like it the implication there [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► is that you know you're in there to hide [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► from the explosion and then suddenly [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► you're dumpsters on fire and he like I [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► gotta get out of here and you'll roll [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► out ya gotta get out of here you see the [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► Terminator emerged from the cab take a [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► couple of steps and collapsed Dead sure [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► done [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► he's he's done this time for sure [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► unfortunately he is not done he rises as [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► a ray harryhausen style stop motion [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► robots and this is that this is the [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► worst part of the film for me now I just [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► say I it actually made me sad because [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► you know it's bad when it when it's a [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► not his whole body it's all that's what [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► I'm saying is because they they actually [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► have a model that looks like they built [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► the Terminator and they have been like [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► banging into things for the up close [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► shots but when it's when it's him sort [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► of limping along with the fire behind [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► where we're totally in Sinbad territory [TS]