00:00:00 ◼ ► the Intolerable number 216 October 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/0">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► uncomfortable podcast I'm your host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/12">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► Jason style and it's going to be another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► edition of our book club we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► talk about a bunch of different books in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/17">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► a particular genre I'm hoping this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► be a little spoiler light so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/20">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► listen maybe find some books you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/22">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► read maybe suggest some books to to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/24">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► although unless you're listening live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/27">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► but we report this here you for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► anyway London urban fantasy is the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/30">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► I realize not too long ago that i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► read a whole bunch of different books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► that were set in London that featured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/39">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► magic and I I thought that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/42">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► interesting like trend that all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/47">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► sudden accidentally although this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/48">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► bookstore by people who run episodes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/52">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► Doctor Who so maybe that has something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/53">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► to do with it anyway we're going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► about those books and other books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► my panelists have read that are vaguely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► connected to sort of magic and money in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/61">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► London and urban fantasy i have i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► an excellent panel to talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► Erica and sign is here hello hello good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/70">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► to have you I'm always happy to come and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/74">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► talk about a doctor who writers doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► well really anything I was gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/78">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► doctor who related things are happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/80">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► so I'm plenty of course you would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► here because yep that's how it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► dan Warren is also out there hi dan I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► Jason how are you thanks for reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► that's you know and you sound like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/90">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► riff and now a very special panelist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/99">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► back-channel mailing list for the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► beginning just as he was on the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► dotnet back-channel mailings from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/109">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► conversations for more than 200 episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► and has never appeared on a podcast but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► that changes with this episode it is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► friend from back at UCSD David burkhard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/120">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► yay you're here finally hear your streak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/126">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► was lurking is over you no more looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► for you unless you get me out of this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► any way that you've heard now from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/136">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► two panelists what he was never here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/140">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► where should we start I mean I I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/145">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► like I want to start with with neil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► gaiman only because after many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► years of it being out there i read i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► read never wear which I i had to laugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► because the wikipedia page 44 never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/159">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► novelization which I know technically it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► is but it's just very strange i I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► know like did you not come to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/168">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► no I've never seen the show really shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/171">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► actually kind of fun never liked it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► I said watched it I watched it first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► then read the book sometime later and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/178">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► enjoyed both in very different ways i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► think i watch the TV show after i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/183">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► although i think the reason he wrote the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► book eventually was because some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► in the show didn't turn out the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► he wanted them to specifically some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► the stuff that's more like special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/196">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► effects heavy well as the eighties right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► right well then again I mean moving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► little grief and you still like old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/201">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► doctor who episode with my question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/202">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► production values you'll probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► fine right all right there and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/207">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► should say I've never read any neil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► people keep telling me that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/213">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► these people kept telling me to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► trying to meet a bell and deal game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► yet so I read some trying to me though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► they said those people were not to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► ok alright that he went in the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/222">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► order their the divine apparently people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► telling me now people I trust you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► telling me I should go to the no game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/229">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► and i downloaded i did download number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► so we were already off the tractor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► what China Mieville did you read because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► this is the thing is I've read some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/236">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► the books i love them and I've band and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/237">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► yeah the perdidos no no no no don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/241">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► that is you I obey bad i read three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/244">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► those oh my god i kind of thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► you know there are some parts of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► which are they're very interesting he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/252">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► a very evocative writer but I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/253">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► kisame he is the reason i can't stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/257">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► steampunk it's because of the book is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► producer street station i don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► all I really literally did put it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/265">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► about a third of the way through i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/267">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► thought this was terrible and I came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/268">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► it after several of the other of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/269">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► direction I came because I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► city in the city is the advantage from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► stick book like george orwell 1984 level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/277">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► of genius book and i really i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/281">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► like embassy town although not everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► did I really liked him again didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/287">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► did not like it but that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► story that's already been covered but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/293">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► think episode in another episode income [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► but I think we can all agree on the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/296">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► in the city so you should check it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► if you ever want to give China Mieville [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/299">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► another shot and in gaming yeah I came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/300">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► to him late i came to him with american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/303">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► gods had never read anything else that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► he done i never read The Sandman when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► came out the comics and I and I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/308">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► saw them never wear series but i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► liked never wear as a book I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► was really fun this idea that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► and what will hear this again as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► talked but there's that there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/319">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► upper city of that's the one that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► of people see and then there's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► thriving underground london which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/324">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► underground which is powered by powered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/328">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► by magic and of course we have a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/332">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► person who gets sucked into this magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► world doesn't even realize that he he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► been sucked into it and ends up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/339">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► grand adventure with lots of crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► characters including the Marquis which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/344">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► character and yeah as a matter of fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/349">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► Patterson Joseph who played the Marquis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► big Carabosse in the show with rumoured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/355">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► several times to be a final pick for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► yeah he's good he's a good actor he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/361">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► contestant if you like that mitchell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► webb look he's he's a number one he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► shows up in jackal to ya-ya and doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/369">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► redditor more American accent oh yeah no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/373">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► matter yeah but I i will say i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/377">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► that this idea of I believe in in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► they call London below is resident you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/382">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► know I think there's a reason why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/386">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► know as Jason point out is read so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► books that have to do with urban fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/389">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► in London that's because not only is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► this a city with thousands of years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► history but much of that is literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/394">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► so you have elements of the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► layered approach of all these cultures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► that have built on top of other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► and sort of there's a rich tapestry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/406">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► manifestations of places or things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/415">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► London because London itself if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► ever spent any time there has these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/422">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► evocative names and I can see why Neil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► Gaiman decided to pull on that for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► this story because there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/428">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► things in there that it's just so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► know like blackfriars and islington the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► angel Islington and all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/434">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► there's all these these fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► ideas who also is played by the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/437">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► doctor who is true because one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► things i liked a lot about that is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► the fact that he's he's pulling from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► places which are historical places and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/448">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► interesting history of the underground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/452">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► stations that just aren't used anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/456">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► and he i can't remember if they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/458">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► filming or a huge was just able to visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► when they were doing set scouting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► stuff but he was actually able to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/467">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► underground with you know the trains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/471">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► just sit by they don't actually stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► deserted sort of thing and and that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/475">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► of of idea always has appealed to me we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► don't have so much of that in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/481">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► country or for the country that you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► are in because you know we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► these here we have that hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► years of building up like like when was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► saying so I i think the idea of finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► hidden tunnels and and stuff that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/494">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► have forgotten for centuries to be just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► it actually comes up in several of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/500">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► books and I think it's great you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► to address but it's funny because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► does come up in non London urban fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► like books at New York will be down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► these huge sewer systems and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/509">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► true that's but it is true in London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► there really is this huge sewer system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► and this underground that has a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► space the ones that isn't mimic the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/519">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► movie that's that that was the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► point is that there's a disused subway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► station that the bugs have taken over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/526">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► the there's a museum for the new york [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► subway that is itself in a disused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/534">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► subway station that's where the museum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/538">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► is you go down into the subway station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► and that's where there's apparently a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/543">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► couple of those in Boston to they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► redoing one of the t stops here and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/546">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► built i think it was built on top of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► older subway station because those go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/551">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► eighteen-hundreds what a perfect place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► to set a story right in this creepy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► it's a whole subway platform but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► nothing there and that's great and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► I wanted to mention that you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► angel Islington the angel Islington such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► a key figure and never wear and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► been to London I 45 times now and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/570">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► not until my last visit only like six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► months ago I was staying with a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► in the north of London and we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/580">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► riding the bus and we got off at Angel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► station in islington and I just started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/584">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► to laugh because i didn't get that joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► until that moment and I was like a neil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/589">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► gaiman you can hope because was just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► American i didn't get out of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► in that book is kind of like that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► you've got things like the old bailey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► right like in Westeros court and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► this stuff that's like there are places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/603">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► in London and but you know which if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► again if you probably lived in London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► you would be immediately recognizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/609">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► them but many of us don't ya know for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► it was how i learned that those were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/614">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► places in London so now when I hear them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► referred to another british shows i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► not a long being like yep i know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► because I never wear thanks neil gaiman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/621">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► he that's a yeah it's good i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► it's funny the the another another uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/625">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► urban fantasy book that I'll mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/629">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► later has this it's the same thing it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/630">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► underground the underground there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► something amazing about that and i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/638">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► mention it now because I don't think dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► you read the madness of angels right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/641">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► recommended by one of our our listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► on our Goodreads group which is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/647">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► awesome she was like why are you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► mentioning any women writers and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► started reading this book i'm not done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/652">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► with it yet but i really like it and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► of the funniest things in it makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/656">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► you know i'm liking a book when i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► imagining what the movie would look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/659">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► shooting the movie in my in my mind like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/663">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► there's a great scene where the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/666">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► characters are on the run from a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/669">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► a shadow monster and they and they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/670">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► to the underground station and tap their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► oyster cards on the tap thing to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/675">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► through the turnstile and then he reads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► from the fine print on the back of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/680">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► oyster card as his spell and basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/683">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► he says if you don't have a ticket you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/686">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► therefore is prevented from coming in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► it's so great I i do like this way I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/693">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► more impressed by her as a writer even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► so when when i was reading them i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► i read the first one the year or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/702">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► after it came out which was in 2009 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/703">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► she's like she's like 24 something which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► with that's an amazingly awesome book to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► write at age 24 has written like a dozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/713">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► novels or something and it's quite good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► and it was enough so that like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► reading you know it's just it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/720">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► incredibly well drawn world and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/724">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► these again kind of like never wear all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► these fascinating links into all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/729">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► different places there and she comes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/734">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► with some really clever ideas that seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► realizing i looked at the wikipedia page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/740">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► since we started talking about this look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► out there's like three more books in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/743">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► this series i haven't read yeah whoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► yeah I think that's always good to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/746">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► more books that I good books that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/749">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► haven't yet read now so definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► thanks thanks to i wish i had the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► of the person who who sent me the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/755">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► note to read it because it's because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/758">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► recommending that book anything more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/763">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► about never where I'm gonna let you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/766">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► talk about whatever their books you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/767">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► all right who would like to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/770">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► something he would like to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/771">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► something that they've read that falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/772">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► Horrible's because I don't think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/777">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► familiar with that but it's I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/780">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► influenced game in a lot of these riders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► in really being one of the I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/783">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► fantasies although I realize Bram Stoker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► kind of got there first with Dracula but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/791">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► it kids that have turned into Horrible's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► they get pointy ears and they steal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► they get into adventures and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/801">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► did the first book they're fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► these things called the rumbles which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/808">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► apparently were based on a beloved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► children's show in England which had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► backlash but fortunately when I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► this book and engineer i didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/818">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► attacking Kermit and Miss Piggy wraps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► and I would have been a little sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► about it to you but since i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► these characters but it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► clever its funny and it's to me what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► what was striking about it especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/834">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► reading it for the first time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/837">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► was that it was so real I mean you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► pull out of map of London and follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► exactly the streets they were going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/843">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► rereading it recently and actually using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► the internet and google street maps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/848">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► he was naming specific places like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► were in an old black abandoned locksmith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► shop and they're really was one on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► Street back in the eighties for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► seventies when this first book was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/860">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► written but I'm when I also thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/861">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► striking about it was just that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/864">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► it doesn't have the normal person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/865">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► finds this world this hidden world it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► actually just starts with the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► of the use of horrible and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/874">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► several ventures the trilogy that last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/878">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► book actually wasn't published until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/881">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► later because of the the Brixton riots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/882">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► the publisher there's a great letter you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► can find online where the the publisher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► decided that it now is not the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► climate in London to publish a book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► of defiance to the police but i highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/896">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► recommend that the whole trilogy na i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► think you'll you would see a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/902">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► threads and a lot of it takes place in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/903">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► different underground in London that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/906">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► sewer system so there's a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/907">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► influence on rivers the rivers of London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► too because they're they're going along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► all these underground rivers and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/914">TS</a>]
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00:22:52 ◼ ► to this entire outer world that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► didn't have before and they realize this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► crime they're investigating as a mom is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► a much bigger and more magical thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► that's happening and that's great in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► many different levels because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► to they have to accept that this is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► they have to try to adapt their policing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► skills it into something that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► unlike I believe in this book there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► a few instances where they thinking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► I could punch this person or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► like no it's not a person and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► budge it and and so I really like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► it's accidental and that they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► they do sort of end up being the special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► magic squad but it's not because they I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► mean it's and so I guess it's sort of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► origin story but i really like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► have no idea it was an accident and here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► they are and i really i really like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► really like that about it yeah I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► a lot too and i think i think it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► it works as a police procedural even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► before the magic comes in which i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► liked that impressed me but also I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► that they didn't have the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► master of the the sort of tour guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► kind of character that that anything i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► actually in the rivers of London series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► look there's a little bit of weakness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► that there's this you know old wizard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► Nightingale that is connect is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► powerful and he keeps happening that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► find one of which keeps out to find ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► all right then and only bring them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► know and avoid bringing him in to save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► interesting to see them kind of trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► to piece piece it together like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► like it's it's like the wire with magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► that actually leads really well into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► what I was about to say which was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► that I think that that the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► feet-first makes it feels like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► much grittier books in any of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► any of the other but fantasies that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► read thus far and you get some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► interesting character development with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► these people because there are four very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► different people and they all have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► can go through something different in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► implications of what it is that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► finding out you know but not everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► is going to react quite the same when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► they discover that there are no giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► things roaming the streets that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► people can't see that there's a it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► characters I mean you u-boat alluded to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► it I i really like that about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► yeah it is gritty from the start I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► a really great like crime novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► you've got a guy who's undercover and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► it's a dirty or not dirty and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► really unclear and that's here you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► you enter with that right now like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► what's going on what's going to be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► thought this was about magic and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► accidentally obviously not in reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► but as you're reading it's like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► literally like you're reading a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► crime novel but then has a little a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► little mistake happens and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► it is and you know like like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► good please stories anyway things aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► black and white and so these characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► are trying to deal with their own issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► about sort of good and evil whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► they're good or not whether we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► encountering some true evil and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► yeah and actually the eye without being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► spoilery about the second book it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► carries on very well as far as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► character development it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► there's there's no weird reset button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► and they're not jumped you know I had so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► much farther that you miss some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► journey that they've gone on it it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► does a good job of sort of picking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► and making it clear that these are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► the same characters you get get a narc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► I think last I saw on Twitter he's he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► was like I think last week 50,000 words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► into the next book and thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► going pretty well and Paul is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► person who will tell you and stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► not going well so that's a good fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► I dan would you like to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► yeah i think i've already mentioned this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► series on the show up but it was way way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► back so i'm going to mention it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► because it does fall perfectly into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► category and that is Mike carries Felix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1613">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► occasional co-panelists Tony similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► pointed out in the chatroom mike carey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► probably better known for his comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► writing including Lucifer which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► the character I believe first developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► by Neil Gaiman know the name from ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► more recently the unwritten written yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► and Jack love about our account a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► significant Archon hellblazer John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► Constantine and he's written a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► he's written a bunch of other stuff so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► think he's written some x-men stuff too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► so he's quite a talented writer but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► is one of the I think his only major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► novel series he does recently have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► novel out under the name mr kerry i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► think but this is a set in London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► it's a very very noir series but instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► of the main character being a detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► he's an exorcist and so basically he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► freelance sex just for higher he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► around and he can get rid of ghosts by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► playing essentially 18 whistle that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► not the only way to get rid of ghosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► what I really like about this series is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► that it does a great job of lining up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► with sort of your sensibilities fixes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► always he's called fix he's always kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► down-on-his-luck he was this big shabby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► overcoat he gets beat up a lot he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► particularly you know tougher or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► heroic really but he always seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► find himself in situations where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► seems to come up there is an ongoing arc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► throughout a bunch of the books about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► one of his his really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► friends who is possessed by a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► powerful demon and then some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► characters who come in including a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► and a bunch of interesting other sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► minor characters i think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► zombie who is also a computer expert who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► lives in a like very refrigerated think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► it's like an old movie theater something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► it's very clever it's exceedingly well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► written he is just a fantastic writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► when it comes to the nuts and bolts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► putting language together and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► the books are more hidden hit-or-miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► than others but in particular I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► the last couple and there are five so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► far with the promise of a sixth at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► indeterminate point feature some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► imaginative and really really engrossing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► to the point of you know they're creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► they're super creepy he does a great job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► of I I don't really like horror books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► but this is about as close as I'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► and they're so there's some stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► there that's that's genuinely disturbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► and I but all of it is just done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► such a deft touch and with the times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► incredibly dark humor and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► they're great they're really it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► really good series i cannot recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► highly enough it's one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► book series from the last you know five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► or six years and hearing the obvious are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► googling around as we're like 36 book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► coming out because i keep hearing rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► about it and it sounds like there might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► be some indeterminate point future so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► this has become my new my replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► for Scott Lynch and patrick rothfuss is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► the white whale of mine i'm waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► this book to come out it will never come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► out but i'm waiting so I I it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► like a lot of people in red which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► that which is a shame because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► good i say get the to a bookstore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► immediately for the devil you know by my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► carry yeah okay alright that's strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► um let me them throw out another book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► that I think maybe all of us of Red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► Rivers London but been around a bitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► yeah which apparently is called midnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► riot in the US which seems totally wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► I don't understand that makes no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► sense to me than the actual title in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► fact the capital is quite a bit better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► it passed well I i can tell i can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► you why I think they did it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► was stupid Americans like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► action and fighting and stuff and rivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► of London first of all that's foreign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► Americans don't always take kindly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► that and then you also you know there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► a scene that's the riot sort of thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► the book like us just one whereas you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► actually have rivers of London kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► throughout the book yes that's a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► better to i was i was just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► incensed by that so it got really mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► there's controversy about the cover too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► because they give this you know black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► man and shadow holding a gun and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► beginning so what exactly have you left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► but by the way you know the constables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► do not carry go yeah i was going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► I I didn't see the cover because i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► yeah that is a terrible the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► cover you can see his face and see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► he was a black them but they did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► like silhouette and it just I'm just I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► so amused by the carrying of a gun when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► most British British police officers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► carry it so here so an image doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► research on midnight riot on google and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► you will be irritated yeah so uh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► David alluded to it here which is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1918">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► this is a this is a story about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► different way that this gets set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► right this is this is about how there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► basically like there's basically no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► magic or at least we think there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► magic and then there's this guy Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► Grant who who who meets a ghost and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► uh has magical ability and he basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► gets taken under the wing of an old like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► that you get the sense like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► last old Wizards who is really grumpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► and basically says i'm gonna i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► to teach you about magic stuff and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► going to open this world to you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► unlike the the paul cornell book where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► the people just sort of have to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► about it when there's this accident here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► he's being let in on a secret but what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► like about it is it's not quite harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► potter where he's led him on an active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► world that he's now a part of its more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► like he's stumbling in and the party's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► over and and he's now this oddity where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► he's like the last guy left is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► and I guess I'll pass this to you now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► and I thought that was really cool and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► then there's also the dynamic of he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► he's a young black detective and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► blatant black policeman and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► this old white man and so you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► he's dealing with their race issues in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► the women in the city and the police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► it's a it's a fascinating a rich set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► where and you really read for the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► also because he's bringing modernity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► into this old building that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► that the musty old building with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► kind of undead cook who lives there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► electronics don't work in the building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► so we end up living in the horse stable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► which is a garage and he's got his TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► it's just I love the setting of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► that because it's done that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► you're right you do have this figure who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► knows everything and can and and he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► taken he gets put in the hospital in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► book i think and he's like he's taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► off the board in many times so that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► that peter grant doesn't know what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► has to do but what I really liked i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► really like this setting and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► know it is it is a cop story this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► detectives and and medical investigators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► and I'll i really like that about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► that again we're really i mean really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► is the magic cops this is like literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► he's discovered that there were magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► cops and he might become the the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► yeah it's interesting because he comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► into you know an institution that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► already exists which is different for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► the shadow Canyon and i like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► know they are using hard-boiled police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► methods to try to track down mystical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► killers he is starting to learn magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► and you know bringing that in he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► actually applying scientific principles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► to the study of magic figure it out as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► much as he can and i think i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► that aspect of the book because I as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► reader i'm very curious about we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► how does this magic work but what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► it tick so I like the fact that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► main character who the books is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► specifically from the point of view of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► peter grant so I like the fact that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► get in his head and and that he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► lot of the same curiosity that I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► as a reader because that's exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► i would do and that he's and he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► giant nerd too i mean that's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► references to pop culture things I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► love that if there is a later book which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► involves some stuff happening literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► underground and he makes multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► references to these particular magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► earthbenders which isn't avatar the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► airbender veterans and I was like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► you pick these indirect us and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► harry potter references i feel like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► among other things that are kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► top because that is that is how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► would deal with it right if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► like if you existed in our world and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► otherworldly the only way you would sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► of be able to wrap your mind around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► was like okay I guess this is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► like these fantasy books that I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► and in that sense Peter it makes Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► incredibly approachable and incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► you feel very sympathetic to him because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► everything the same way that he is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► maybe it's to be expected but I lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► track of how many doctor who references [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► their work is red i am in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► yeah fifth book right now fourth book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► whichever is the most recent one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► analytic with fifth one is out yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► that's one that comes out in January ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► so in the middle of the fourth book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► right now and there's a Linda with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► wide Joe click that's how deep that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► deepest doctor who cuts are well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► so deep I don't even get it it's from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► one episode yeah it's it's a very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► very specific reference David go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► what you're going to say I was gonna see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► I mean he's got a great voice to and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► he's a probationary please constable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► beginning so he's he's still trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► make his way in the police force and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► then now he's got this new wrinkle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► trying to figure out this this magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► essentially right because you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► on this crappy magic the guy no heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► he didn't really think he was destined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► for greatness but i think it's um it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► actually laugh-out-loud funny sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► so I think it's very enjoyable the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► thing that worries me about it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► i'm ready to fall into that trap like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► you know true blood you know where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► you know sort of like oh this time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► a big Estella meet the werewolf now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► you know it's it's it is exploring this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► magical world and i think that the river [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► part is so unique and actually think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► they did a good job with the vampires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► that which there's a reference yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► Empire's they're not central but i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► want i'm hoping that they don't go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► the road you know that he doesn't get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► a road of having him constantly you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► finding oh yeah and actually fairies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► real and werewolves are real just went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► out for his world so I was fine ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► comment I know Erika said she's part way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► through the fourth book is to have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► other people read most of the series all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► this you can only read the first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► okay i won't say yes I've read all for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► the first four and i will say that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► there the overarching plot that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► like goes through them gets stronger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► stronger and you know without giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► there's some major stuff it's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► the end of the reason but really stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► with it stay with it gets it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► sticking with it because its stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► yeah there's some really good stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► really good characters yeah i mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► mention the rivers I mean rivers London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► that one of the things I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► about this setting to is that unless we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► talked about the underground and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► like that here the geography of London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► different way in the sense that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► magic is all based on the geography so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► the rivers the there are there the gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► of the rivers of London our powers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► in fact there's a great scene in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► first book where they flee the city and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► it's like once they're out of the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► they're safe they until they go back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► the city and they're not safe again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► because the power doesn't extend beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► the city and in fact different parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► the city are ruled by different you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► beings that have these elemental powers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► that spring from and it's nice because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► it brings from the history of before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► there was even a city here there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► these elemental beings with that were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► the rivers and in the trees and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► and I really like that I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► was an interesting spin on it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► that's kind of where a lot of this magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► comes from and and you know you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► these these kind of bosses are like mob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► bosses of magic but that their turf is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► their turf because of the geography not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► they haven't staked out the geography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► they literally like are the geography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► that's their turf I think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► yeah I noticed he spends a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► describing more than any of these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► books describing the the geography in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► the streets in the layout and stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► and also the architecture there's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► description of buildings and room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► then I think in any other book I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► read that it actually wasn't what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► think of the Horrible's because like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► Horrible's I this book be pulling a map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► of London and even historical maps of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► London and I love map so it's rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► look at map of London than a map of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► middle-earth so I like the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► yeah I I had a dog um I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► actually gets reused a reuse i think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► one of the books there's a description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► of a playhouse that is basically a fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► house that's like this is the third book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► yeah but it's also used in the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► recent sherlock series there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► yeah I where there's like the fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► houses that have the facades but are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► sort of basically built over you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► underground essentially but that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► really cool i don't know I remember when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► I got to that part of your life as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► couple i know about these things I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► about the minute book I did exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► opposite because I'd already seen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► Sherlock by the time i read the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► I was like oh I have a picture of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► in my head now because I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► cool i like this series a lot this is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► we should say we we we mentioned this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► before but we should say it so been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► around a bitch was the script editor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► Doctor Who I think that briefly was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► was he not in the eighties worked he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► not the script editor but he worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► closely with andrew Cartmell right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► apparently been around which had a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► lot to do with even though there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► actual master plan so I so well but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► that's for dr. pockets been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► anniversary episode of doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► he wrote remembrance of the Daleks which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► should have been the 25th anniversary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► episode it would have worked much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► with silver nemesis consider the 25th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► anniversary of yeah it is it had the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► know that the budget in the fanfare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► sorry doctor who talk but I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► think of that is that because because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► because remembrance of the Daleks which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► is considered actually one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► highlights of the last 15 years of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► is set at the place where the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► episode is set of Doctor Who and it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► this 25th anniversary season and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► got the Daleks in it and it's very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► a nostalgic referential episode 2 1963 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► better and better on this road that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► so he comes from and where is Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► Cornell was a fan and then wrote a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► of novels and then wrote a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► episodes in the russell t davies Sarah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► of the new series but these are both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► novels that we've talked about and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► Neil Gaiman you know has written some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► stuff during the Stephen montara so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► there's a lot of Doctor Who going around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► in here actually wanted to bring up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► just a little connection with the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► addition to remember the Daleks he also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► wrote battle battlefield but i'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► sure it's in remembrance of the Daleks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► that you actually get something was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► of interesting for doctor who at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► time which was bringing race relations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► into it a little bit and having some you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► know a couple of scenes to do with black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► somewhere where they were you know said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► no coloreds on the the door on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► outside it the doctors companion got all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► interesting that you know one of the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► writers to really bring that to the four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► back in the eighties and doctor who then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► has this series of books that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► has a black main character and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► you you see the world from their point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► of view and get get a little bit of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► how Leonard has changed since 1963 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► and how in some cases maybe it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► am i right in remembering actually that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► I think his father's white he always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► I don't remember what it was because his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► mother is actually African in the but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► his dad's I thought she had lost in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► dad's a jazz musician from me I funny i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► think is why you I think he's described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► as half black and half white yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► interesting because I I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► yeah i thought it came up as an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► and you know like in terms of again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► race relations being interesting part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► this like even has it a little tougher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► in some cases because that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► consider being a mixed heritage is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► very challenging there so I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► thought that was an interesting an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► interesting aspect of his carrier it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► definitely a big part of the flavor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► the books and one of the things i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► about the second book is the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► the fact that it's I mean it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► his sort of could have been the title of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► it which is hilarious and yet it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► know as silly as that sounds it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► cool and it's a really fun story and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► i like how the universe expands this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► one of those things where you can't wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► to read the first book in the series you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► don't know whether the universe is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► what-you-see-is-what-you-get and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► gonna be like this from here on out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► with this series you know in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► book you get there's this old guy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► he's the last wizard left so he's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► to teach you and the second book they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► essentially a place that's like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► Hogwarts but now it's empty and nobody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► been there since what like since world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► war two and you get the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► there's a really awful history about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► there aren't any Wizards anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► that's amazing that blew me away because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► it's like oh this is what i thought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► is a much bigger story about why the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► magicians are absent and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► that follow-up that you know you you let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► you learn that maybe they're not absent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► and that's really great too so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► it's a great it's a great way with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► universe expands over time as the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► go along and i really like some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► secondary characters that they bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► into I mean like you know you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► I don't even know what that says keep on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► a semi undead to marry the house and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► my favorite character who is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► the the doctor that they call on who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► basically like just really interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► how magic affects people i think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► described as being he's of it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► Arabic descent Arabian descent but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► yeah it's just such a great i mean again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► sort of playing with all these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► like it's just you know this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► the how things go and I just I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► enjoy their interactions that the this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► magic set up reminded me a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► Jonathan strange and mr morale i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► know if you guys have read that by Susan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► Clark really good book i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► mention that on a book club too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► they're making a TV mini-series out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► that I believe but um but that's a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► that's set in the past that setting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► 19th century but but it reminds me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► this in the sense that there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► question like well what there was magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► way is it still there is a coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► it had a little bit of that feel to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► but in the modern modern day and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► book so they're actually making TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► series out of rivers of 12 I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► the same people that are making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► other TV series i think the two options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► I'm a little nervous about how this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► going to work as a TV series i hope it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► doesn't you know that they do it well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► they're gonna have to recast it well to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► keep that cleverness and not just become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► another you know doctor who like gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► show so the guy who wrote the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► recent most recent episode of doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► is the guy who is adapting it o.o he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► yeah the guy roadkill the moon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► actually the guy who who is doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► writing of the TV adaptation and Toby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► Haynes is a doctor who director is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► directing it will be interesting to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► yeah okay now I'm secret that i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► know wow that was some pretty obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► nerding out yes that is a good director [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► he is it gonna look even more than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► little dreamy i will not enough fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► I yeah so if you wonder if you like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► directors dreamy dots on experience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► yes and good and he's a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► director um actually i want to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► the the the neuronic series with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► setup of the there is an institution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► that magic is involved with i'm reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► me of another book that we've covered on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► the show but i wanted to mention again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► which is the rook by Daniel O'Malley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► which is similarly a book set in London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► involving a minute a magical agency this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► one staffed up it doesn't have empty you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► know empty buildings that used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► this one's fully staffed but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► that's a fantastic book about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► magical bureaucracy that is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► layer below the actual burger ah cracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► in London and if anybody out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► hasn't read the brook you got to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► the book is one of the most fun books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► man I'm coming away with this with will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► take away more homework for this but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► don't have to cram this stuff because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► are not talking about it on the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► you can read but the ruckus so good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► the rivers of London universe sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► opened up a little bit with some of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► magical police back story without giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► too much away mostly because I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► because I don't know yet that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► happens in the shadow police a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► bit to you find out that there might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► enforcement that was somehow related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► the magical realms in London but even by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► the end of the second book I i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2938">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► don't have a clear picture that which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► one of the reasons i'm really excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► yeah I like that sense that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► this been i mean that's that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► the things about magic but that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► you get that you don't science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► stories often it's like this the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► time this has ever happened what are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► going to do and magic stories it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► much like this has all happened before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► it's like you you only discovered it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► but these are ancient powers that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► are you only only know you people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► realizing are still around and it gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► you that just like knowing that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► are subway stations that are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► ground unused having that idea like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► there is knowledge from the past that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► only now being on earth because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► just add that little creepy like whoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► it's exciting when rivers of one also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► has that great the Nazis were doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► 20 yeah you're trying to do this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► they haven't they haven't fully explored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► that story which i think is really kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► of brilliant that the every book just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► reveals a little bit more about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► happened world war two and what impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► yeah like there's a magic manhattan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► project almost and a magic arms race and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► aftermath that Peter Grant walks into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► which is just really it's very cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► let's take another brief break for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3006">TS</a>]
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00:50:45 ◼ ► process by letting you add content and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► all in one window you're going to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3049">TS</a>]
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00:52:48 ◼ ► already recommend and no I might be kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► of a digression but the go for man i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► recommended a couple weeks ago I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► my urban turban fancy book that i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► this hot actually said in London but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► that's pretty much the same not let Cole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► the iron but it's a regular in that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► an urban fantasy and it's it's deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► with a you know detective whose me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► also in this case a ferry from the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► know the Fae realms solving crime that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► magical reloaded so we give that another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► another nut job because I thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► first one was really good and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► there's a couple more books coming in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► that series nice yeah if we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► forget a stray a little bit i will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► to mention 10 powers declare which part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► of it takes place in London so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► it counts but it's a it's if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► have any of you have read that but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► a no like a lock are a book it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► my all-time favorite books actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► because especially since i came to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► after i was reading all these spy books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► and then you read this one and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► actually every the characters in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► real are actually in the place that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► were that day in history he does helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► but at the same time he's got all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► crazy explanations of the whole Cold War [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► struggle is actually being around genies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► in Arabia so i recommend that one and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► does have you know some of the the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► of London the car a kind of stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► what was the name is category declare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► declared by 10 powers you probably heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► actually you mentioned Jeannie i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► throw out another appt look we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► about four episodes of The Golem and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► genie by Helene Wecker that is set in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► New York and is very much a an immigrant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3276">TS</a>]
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00:54:41 ◼ ► and the Jewish immigrants come to New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3281">TS</a>]
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00:54:47 ◼ ► and it's a really awesome book we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► we've got a little bit more time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► which is rare for us so before we go I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► thought I would go around and ask that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3293">TS</a>]
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00:54:57 ◼ ► what are you reading but it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3297">TS</a>]
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00:54:59 ◼ ► something that you've read lately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3299">TS</a>]
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00:55:06 ◼ ► reading that that you in general that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3306">TS</a>]
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00:55:23 ◼ ► books later I was like oh yeah i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► yeah which is the the latest book by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► Nick Harkaway called tigerman oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3329">TS</a>]
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00:55:34 ◼ ► really do love Day card way although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► i've been following its slow descent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► into madness on twitter because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► his wife left him with their kids if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3339">TS</a>]
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00:55:44 ◼ ► offered to send a beer whiskey and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► politely declined so his most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► book is Tiger man i specifically avoided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► reading anything about it beforehand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► including even the jacket copy when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► bought a hardcover version of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► and so I as a result i'm not really sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► how to describe it other than to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3363">TS</a>]
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00:56:35 ◼ ► good read I've enjoyed every book that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► have read by him and I honestly have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► hard time coming up with an author who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► writes stuff that is more just flat-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► original and it's quite funny at times i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► found myself laughing aloud and reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► passages to other people as i went and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► it's it's just it's delightful but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► indeed and the Garnier world is a angel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► maker both books i really like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► both so bizarre so I just this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► much in that very realm it set is said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► in the modern day but it is a slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► slightly distorted version are modeled a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► ok David you have anything you've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► lately you want to recommend well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► tomorrow's my 10th wedding anniversary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► so incredible inventions perfect time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► I read that 20th wedding anniversary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► trip with my wife and it doesn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► yeah so is I think you made a joke about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► that a couple podcast ago and I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► already finished reading it I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► was pretty funny but i but I knew there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► was no way I was going to get spoiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► for me with the movie coming out so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► had to rehabilitate know for a while so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► i had to get it done and i also did was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► just reading a history black count which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► is about Alexander Dumas father who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► a who was actually a slave in the West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► Indies at one point and mixed-race and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► then ended up in France and all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► adventures that actually actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► influence to Mars books like kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► money Christo and three musketeers alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► so that was a kind of fun read for for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► non-fictional history and girls one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► those books and I did say this couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► episodes ago that that everybody talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► about and everybody's reading about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► know I can give it an endorsement it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► really good book it is not its people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► are not reading it because they may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► reading it because everybody's reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► it but it's a good book it's I enjoyed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► lot although it is it is a kind of dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► yeah and it surprised me which doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► yes yes I didn't know where it was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► Erica what other than cramming for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► recommend yeah i have i've actually been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► thinking over just the past few months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► reading but i think i've read more in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► the last two months and i have in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► past like six years probably in part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► because I got a Kindle paperwhite for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► birthday in June so it makes it so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► easier and also i think i think i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► going to credit paul cornell with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► sort of renaissance of reading because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► cramming for the shadow police just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► of was like oh my gosh now i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► how books work this is fantastic so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► read just within the past month and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► half i read old man's were by john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► scalzi just got my sister recommended it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► and it's been around for quite a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► oh yeah that's a good one that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► boy Andrew yeah i read i read the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► the Y a version Zoe's tail first because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► it was a hugo nominee and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► well this is great and then i read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► it's all good old man's war is I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► they're making a movie if that or a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► show show i think there it was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► development for a movie for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► I think it's now in development as a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► right when since it's a series they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► mind the whole setting to write those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► stories right that's what it and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► anybody hasn't heard of it it's it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► place a number of years in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► humans have called have colonies off in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► other places and earth is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► backwater a little bit and once you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► to be 75 if you want to join up and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► in the colonial army they will make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► interesting story and in that itself in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► the point of view of older folks who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► suddenly somewhat young again i won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► give any more way it was it was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► well-built world I thought it was aight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► i like the way he took into account a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► lot of the possibilities of what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► happen if you did that which he also did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► in another book that i just read which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► is his newest book locking where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► have it's again a few years in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► future totally different universe than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► the old man's world one but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► disease that certain left no I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► remember how many million people not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► huge percentage of the population [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► basically locked into their bodies so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► they're not able to not able to move or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► communicate in any way but they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► totally conscious so with a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► of research grants and stuff from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► government people are given i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► remember exactly what they're called but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► basically robots that they can but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► know they're lying in their bed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► they're controlling these robots that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► are walking around and speaking with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► their voices and and it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► another detective story actually if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► get another murder mystery that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► just happens to be solved instead of by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► magicians in and warlocks and stuff by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► in part a an FBI agent who happens to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► walking around basically in a robot suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► which is a an interesting idea and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► he takes these it takes the whole idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► robot suits my other car is a robot suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► of of what would happen you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► kind of prejudices there would be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► society and what kind of governmental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► regulations would have to happen or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► happen and it just he extrapolates a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► of that stuff out very nicely so it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► i also read a I think it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3716">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► novella but on a red station drifting by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► elected are don't know that so yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► was one of the hugo nominee is last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► yeah it was from last year now she later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► really that that told me about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► her disguise that was scott and i both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► commanded that one to you i think is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► yes yes and the waiting stars with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► story this year so I like I didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► that as much as I like the waiting stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► but i did enjoy it was it was more in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► that same universe so I yeah like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► and i'm also on a I'm a big fan of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► writer called Sarah Addison allen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► she writes it's definitely not exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► science fiction I guess magical realism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► with the heart it's they're very sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► formulaic books about women and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► just heartwarming and they all take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► place and kind of small towns in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► south and most of them sort of are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► the same universe so you get little just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► kind of nods of crossover between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► between books and and I realized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► despite the fact that i had already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► pre-ordered her book that comes out next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► somehow I had missed the book that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► out this februari just discovered that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► last week so of course in a day and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► half is zipped through that book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► with with very thrilled it's called Lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► Lake that I had something it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► not my favorite of hers but i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► has has started me on a much-needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► reread so i think i'm going to jump jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► in next with the sugar queen and and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► through all of her stuff again because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► it's just for me those are real comfort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► reads they're very very easy quickbooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► and and they're just like a warm blanket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► a little and I just I was just a trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► and I i destroyed these three books in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► no time because i like them so much and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► that's been as recommended by many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► people on this podcast been winters last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► policeman series so good cannot begin to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► tell you how much I liked it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► premise for those who haven't heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► those other episodes is this guy is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► police detective in a world where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► got his promotion to police detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► because they keep losing members on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► discovered that about nine months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► asteroid is going to hit the earth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► kill everybody and that's the that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► background and in the foreground he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► solves a mystery and it's a detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► good voice there are twists and red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► herrings like you would expect in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► background you've got the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► world doesn't work quite like it does in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► our world and people are not reacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► well in various ways to the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► everybody's gonna be dead in nine months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► and there are three books in that series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► the last detective countdown city and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► world of trouble and they're all they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► all good i like them all a lot and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► I without without spoiling because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► really Scott mentioned this the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► the other weekend I thought it was maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► a spoiler it's really icy why it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► spoiler he doesn't he doesn't wimp out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► there there there isn't a last-minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► reprieve in the book that's like oh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► then everybody was fine it was all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► a misunderstanding i mean this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► is this is this is a series about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► people do and how they react when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► know they're not going to make it and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► it is this detective and it their great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► so high highest recommendation really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► for that whole series so good kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► depressing but so good going on our 10th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► anniversary trip to French Polynesia and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► I i was considering reading that trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► on the trip well it says your god girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3945">TS</a>]
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01:05:56 ◼ ► incomparable book club will reconvene in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► a sewer in london in five years time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► I don't know yeah I'm gonna miss that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► one incantation you you are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► miss again because the river gods are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► going to teleport you there with magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► well it's a lot cheaper than flying so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► I'm in all right it would get me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► London i would i would go for a stop in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► the sewers stop us or you need to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► out of her and then go back to business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► you have to stay this or you just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► the meeting and then you leave and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► alright i would like to thank my guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► for discussing urban fantasy London and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► Burkhardt thank you for being on after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► more than 200 episodes of waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► yep looking to be forward to being on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► excellent excellent will will will also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► an invite dan moore and thank you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► always for being here is always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► pleasure especially when it involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► words words words a good America and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► sign thank you so much for coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► and and sharing all these a doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► related right with me anytime I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► I am next time you're doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► with Doctor Who directors i will i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► hmm ok dreamy or otherwise or otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► his lungs are good and and everybody out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► there thanks for listening we hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► without doing too much in the way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► spoilers we've given you a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► of new things you can read if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► this sort of thing which we all do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZNy-uc/4040">TS</a>]