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215: Someone Is Threatening My Whales

 

00:00:03   the incomparable number 215 October 2040 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3">TS</a>]

00:00:14   welcome back everybody to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/14">TS</a>]

00:00:15   uncomfortable i'm your host Jason smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/15">TS</a>]

00:00:16   and tonight we're gonna be talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/16">TS</a>]

00:00:19   it's literally like part two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/19">TS</a>]

00:00:20   something we did a few weeks ago which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   was the best and worst of Star Trek when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/22">TS</a>]

00:00:23   we the story is an episode 200 realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/23">TS</a>]

00:00:26   i was a big star trek fan of my podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/26">TS</a>]

00:00:27   was almost entirely about Star Wars so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29   thought I would rectify that by doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   some episodes about Star Trek we do best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   and worst to star trek episode was a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/33">TS</a>]

00:00:34   of fun people really reacted well to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   and said I hope you're gonna do more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38   those and the answer is yes we are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/38">TS</a>]

00:00:39   to do more of those this in fact is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   of those things that is the more of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   anyway it's part two of the best for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45   Star Trek i have an excellent panel here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   very similar to the one I had before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   with the addition of the person who came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51   up with this idea in the first place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/51">TS</a>]

00:00:52   didn't show up the last one so or i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/52">TS</a>]

00:00:56   guess his internet was really bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/56">TS</a>]

00:00:57   the last one so it wasn't here but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59   here tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/59">TS</a>]

00:00:59   its moist uyan I'm is not again Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/59">TS</a>]

00:01:02   the line must be drawn yeah they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05   sorry no further and I will make you pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   for what you've done is you've broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/67">TS</a>]

00:01:10   little ships also scott McNulty host of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/70">TS</a>]

00:01:13   uncomfortable zone random trek is here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/73">TS</a>]

00:01:16   as you would only expect hi Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19   use the Force Luke no mom and i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/79">TS</a>]

00:01:25   i quote Darth Vader when I say no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/85">TS</a>]

00:01:29   guys let's talk about our favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   boobies you heard that voice you heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   was Tony sindelar hi Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/93">TS</a>]

00:01:35   hello nerds yeah fix what is that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/95">TS</a>]

00:01:38   new sign on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/98">TS</a>]

00:01:39   hello nerds that right is that what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   lot in real life so let's not let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   bring it to the internet for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45   representative and a proponent of Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47   Trek Voyager on the planet perhaps is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/107">TS</a>]

00:01:50   brianna when she's back hello what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53   crack-a-lacking everything you love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   I will destroy that ever cook ok i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/115">TS</a>]

00:01:58   argue for until your mind is my mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/118">TS</a>]

00:02:02   and then we leave the arena as friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   what do I say we solve ok destroy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/124">TS</a>]

00:02:07   arena the arena is going oh man i'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   guy in the Big River lizard are na could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   be don't always and David little David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   Lawrence here you just heard him hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/135">TS</a>]

00:02:16   oh haha home set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/136">TS</a>]

00:02:20   okay so I'm gonna do my George Takei [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   that I didn't do when we did our dirty k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   a bonus track which is san francisco i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27   was born there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29   that's my favorite sealer one target my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   explosion of joy and fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   ok so here's how we're going to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/154">TS</a>]

00:02:37   this is not a draft this is more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/157">TS</a>]

00:02:38   debate club or discussion club i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41   to ask people for their opinions in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42   case we're gonna get a lot of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   are going to probably agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47   specific things and sort of sign on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   what that person said if you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   that that's just fine i anticipate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   will happen because in some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   cases there aren't that many choices so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57   it'll be an interesting conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/177">TS</a>]

00:02:58   about various aspects of Star Trek and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01   we're gonna start with series because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   that's not controversial at all and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/183">TS</a>]

00:03:07   what I've asked my my panelists to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   tell me what they think the best Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/189">TS</a>]

00:03:10   Trek series is I know I know and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/190">TS</a>]

00:03:14   going to start with Tony Tony what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/194">TS</a>]

00:03:17   you think the best Star Trek series hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/197">TS</a>]

00:03:18   man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/198">TS</a>]

00:03:19   don't worry i will know I browser so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/199">TS</a>]

00:03:24   confident until then God knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/204">TS</a>]

00:03:27   could go wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28   um I will go with the thing that I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/208">TS</a>]

00:03:31   on an episode of random track so i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   get caught in some kind of time do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/213">TS</a>]

00:03:36   will say that the best series is deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/216">TS</a>]

00:03:37   space nine it is not my favorite series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   but I also i will put forward that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42   the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/222">TS</a>]

00:03:42   s-series alright you would you like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   talk about that a little bit think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   is the draft so I would love for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   do you explain why and then we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/228">TS</a>]

00:03:49   wasn't i wasn't sure what was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/229">TS</a>]

00:03:50   happen we can sign in and attack me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   around that will happen to build some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   kind of makeshift cannon out of bamboo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/234">TS</a>]

00:03:55   or something how you chose wisely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/235">TS</a>]

00:03:58   yes thank you thank you that means i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/238">TS</a>]

00:04:01   chose the same thing Scott exactly yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   i know so i will put for next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/243">TS</a>]

00:04:08   is my favorite star trek but i will put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10   forward the best deep space nine is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12   best star track in terms of the quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14   of the primary and secondary characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   and perhaps most of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19   multi-episode arc throughout the later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21   series that really kind of just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/261">TS</a>]

00:04:22   going and have a level storytelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   that's not really present in some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   earlier Star Trek's where they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27   these storylines that go on and on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/267">TS</a>]

00:04:30   on and are interesting and pull you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   and you know some people don't like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   expand its not as much because it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35   a very kind of dark depiction of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38   future where a lot of people are worn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40   your heroes are doing things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41   not necessarily very nice and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   there's torture and there's intriguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/284">TS</a>]

00:04:45   they're spying and there's conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47   but I find all those fascinating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   great and I think that it makes it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   of the deepest and most interesting of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   the star treks let's go deep in the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/294">TS</a>]

00:04:55   so it's totally right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   yeah it's also space given and nine well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   heading to the number so it sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/300">TS</a>]

00:05:01   future we probably the biggest digit yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   take that the Space Station k-7 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/303">TS</a>]

00:05:08   Babylon 5 take that that I've war star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/308">TS</a>]

00:05:11   trek series can we agree for better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/311">TS</a>]

00:05:14   yeah uh you know I think he's based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/314">TS</a>]

00:05:17   one of the things in it is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/317">TS</a>]

00:05:18   about these people really remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/318">TS</a>]

00:05:19   latter part of the run where they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   didn't break the story arc and go dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/321">TS</a>]

00:05:22   the first few years are not so much that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   I think we're interested about the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27   few years of several surgeries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/327">TS</a>]

00:05:28   well that's true that's true but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30   that was that was when that kind of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/330">TS</a>]

00:05:31   story arc storytelling came to the fore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   was in the last like three years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/333">TS</a>]

00:05:34   dudes face so I think we got a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/334">TS</a>]

00:05:35   bit of a taste of that even I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   early on there was a season break where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   they had a three-parter and it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   that they took it up a notch in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   you know we had a couple two partners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   here and there in a next-gen but it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   seemed clear early on that they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/347">TS</a>]

00:05:48   to do some longer longer form stuff so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/348">TS</a>]

00:05:51   think I think deep space nine has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/351">TS</a>]

00:05:54   of the very best starter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56   that's ever been made but i also think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/356">TS</a>]

00:05:57   it's all over the map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   i I just in tone in the characters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02   in what the plot lines are and what just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/362">TS</a>]

00:06:05   the field the show is um and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/365">TS</a>]

00:06:08   experimental episodes just really even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/368">TS</a>]

00:06:12   in the the vein of Star Trek episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14   just don't care right really go for it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/374">TS</a>]

00:06:17   mean it really has something wildly out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/377">TS</a>]

00:06:20   there so I I definitely thinks most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   experimental star trek i actually got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   really down this is a bad timing example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/384">TS</a>]

00:06:27   I got really down on deep space 9 right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   before they really kicked their story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   arc storytelling into gear and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34   dropped out and i stopped watching and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   i believe i haven't even seen like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   last couple years and decided not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   watch it while it was airing LOL i loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/400">TS</a>]

00:06:43   next-gen and I love next-gen was like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/403">TS</a>]

00:06:46   favorite thing ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/406">TS</a>]

00:06:47   as I like a teenager growing up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50   basically when when Deep Space nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/410">TS</a>]

00:06:51   started and when Voyager started I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   just angry that they were not more next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56   year and there's even this little with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57   you know in the first episode of deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   space nine Picard has like a cameo in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   like one of the first things we learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/421">TS</a>]

00:07:02   about cisco is that he doesn't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/422">TS</a>]

00:07:03   card and I was like I'm so angry that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   not believable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06   everyone loves him he's the best I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   want to watch the whole show up but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10   went back to it later after it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   wrapped up and I've watched it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/432">TS</a>]

00:07:13   way through twice and i think it's i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/433">TS</a>]

00:07:16   think it's really great but you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/436">TS</a>]

00:07:17   a long time it was like after i watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   the wire was basically angry every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21   television so happy on the wire after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/441">TS</a>]

00:07:23   that and that was wow you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   sixteen-year-old tony was basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/445">TS</a>]

00:07:26   angry at everything else was not Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   Trek The Next Generation and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30   Voyager deep space nine we're not close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31   enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/451">TS</a>]

00:07:32   the episode that killed me for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/452">TS</a>]

00:07:33   person i was actually past tense which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   is from the third season and it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   shameless ripoff of city on the edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/459">TS</a>]

00:07:40   I feel they go back in time it is yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/460">TS</a>]

00:07:43   and I hated it I mean I reacted so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/463">TS</a>]

00:07:44   negatively to about like that's it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   forgot i forget it I'm not gonna even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   bother and I watched Babylon 5 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/468">TS</a>]

00:07:51   forgot about star trek to space I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   slowly watching actually deep space nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   now from the point at which i gave up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   and I you know I I've learned to forgive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/477">TS</a>]

00:08:00   now but it's a fine detective I've gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/480">TS</a>]

00:08:04   say the thing that I like about past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/484">TS</a>]

00:08:05   tense is that I felt it was a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   ripoff of harlan ellison's original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/487">TS</a>]

00:08:08   script in the act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/488">TS</a>]

00:08:09   cool scenario sorry no sorry King III [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/489">TS</a>]

00:08:15   thought I don't know I like past tense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   that's up there is one of like episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   i really enjoyed it it's got some I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   it's got that kind of dystopian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/501">TS</a>]

00:08:22   commentary where you know that the near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25   future is not gonna be so great right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   but yea yet it was you know you're mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/507">TS</a>]

00:08:30   you're finding that you're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/510">TS</a>]

00:08:31   depression and it was like so close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/511">TS</a>]

00:08:32   just being like hey that was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   episode let's do that again and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   seemed like a robot to me that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/516">TS</a>]

00:08:37   didn't forgive me I wasn't what college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   grad school whatever I was I was I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   young and I was an angry young man I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44   mean I'm sorry angry young fan can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45   relate to that oh yeah something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   you were angry that it wasn't Harlan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   Ellison maybe you know what be partying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51   Allison was angry that everything is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   hardly know ya just remember now i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/533">TS</a>]

00:08:56   i think the s9 has my promise ts9 is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/536">TS</a>]

00:09:00   many of the characters are you like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03   entire Ferengi subplot is just I cringe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06   every single time because cork is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   understand his purpose as a foil they so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11   thoroughly unlikable and like his drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   with knock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/554">TS</a>]

00:09:15   it's just don't you know it's it's again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/555">TS</a>]

00:09:20   I understand the metaphor you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   the lovable interplay between quark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/562">TS</a>]

00:09:23   odo that really I do like that i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   last night i got their stuff yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   don't let's not you know it's like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/568">TS</a>]

00:09:29   going to mobile skeleton your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/569">TS</a>]

00:09:30   money-grubbing you hate women right we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   don't really even up another episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   where we explore that what we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/574">TS</a>]

00:09:35   to start over human world but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/575">TS</a>]

00:09:38   it's not just that I think they also on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   I think major Kira takes I didn't warm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/581">TS</a>]

00:09:44   up to her until probably season two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/584">TS</a>]

00:09:47   I don't know it feels like it took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   while for the scripts to really show her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/589">TS</a>]

00:09:50   human side but I don't know I found her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/590">TS</a>]

00:09:53   to be really two-dimensional in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   first season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/595">TS</a>]

00:09:56   yeah i think that improve just to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   went along but a lot of that our nails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   are pretty rough yeah she was the shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   but she was drawn more I to Rihanna's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/602">TS</a>]

00:10:06   point for me more just as shallow as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/606">TS</a>]

00:10:12   humanly possible showing she was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14   functional character rather than a i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/614">TS</a>]

00:10:17   want a human being because I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   would be offensive and racist but sheshe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/619">TS</a>]

00:10:23   he was not a person of depth until we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   got into the later seasons we bothered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27   me and I just like the character mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   because it didn't feel like a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   felt like it was a it was a a functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33   place of ice and I don't know sorry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/633">TS</a>]

00:10:34   was because like it was supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   in centro right and they couldn't get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38   so the show more character and like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41   kind of forgot to write stuff for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   new character because they thought they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/643">TS</a>]

00:10:44   were gonna able just slot an existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   character in but but yeah either way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   get there there's issues there will add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   depth later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/650">TS</a>]

00:10:51   yeah well we'll do that and probably did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/651">TS</a>]

00:10:52   eventually right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   yeah they they got an episode where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/654">TS</a>]

00:10:58   and chief O'Brien get really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00   uneasy about how much i love my enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   him rubbing on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03   oh my which is to plug my parents on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/663">TS</a>]

00:11:06   random track is looking at our mind play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   that good Santa not a good empanada good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/668">TS</a>]

00:11:11   intersection of being together for sodas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   and click on episodes and no that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   a place to buy random comfortable know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   Brian episodes to we only let you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   what I like rose i love all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/679">TS</a>]

00:11:22   that have to happen the chief of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/682">TS</a>]

00:11:23   brightest that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/683">TS</a>]

00:11:24   torture for many decades yeah 10 i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/684">TS</a>]

00:11:28   two varieties the best and I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30   feel bad that he possibly making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/690">TS</a>]

00:11:33   psychologically destroyed and smiley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/693">TS</a>]

00:11:38   assplay an alternate version of himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/698">TS</a>]

00:11:39   morning in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   yeah he suffers for all of us gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/701">TS</a>]

00:11:44   separated for his way he's the Kenny of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/704">TS</a>]

00:11:47   deep space nine he is the Christ figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   obviously I should throw in the my pic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   was also deep space nine now that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55   correct as big as much as much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/715">TS</a>]

00:11:58   next-generation devotee as as i am and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01   watch that show from from a young age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   when it began until it ended and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   it was a very big thing for me for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/726">TS</a>]

00:12:09   deep space nine the experimental stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/729">TS</a>]

00:12:13   that I got into even when it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   necessarily TV its best or even Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   Trek at its best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/737">TS</a>]

00:12:18   it didn't it didn't feel as much based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/738">TS</a>]

00:12:21   on a similar template of something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   had come before and that not knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   what was necessarily going to come next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   where I think it was at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/747">TS</a>]

00:12:31   this is a tip of my hand to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   that I'm gonna mention later but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   episode that is the lane is rob episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/755">TS</a>]

00:12:38   just came out of left field for me where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/758">TS</a>]

00:12:41   there's this whole Valjean in Javert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/761">TS</a>]

00:12:44   thread going through it and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/764">TS</a>]

00:12:48   thing about the series was that it ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   straight at some of those things that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/770">TS</a>]

00:12:54   it were played a little bit differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   could be considered a bit too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57   on-the-nose are trying a bit too hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58   and it ended up working and it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/778">TS</a>]

00:13:02   was like watching a disparate grouping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/782">TS</a>]

00:13:06   of amazing theater actors getting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/786">TS</a>]

00:13:10   work together in in ways that we hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   gotten in a Star Trek series up until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   that and that was that was fresh enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   and different enough for me that I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/796">TS</a>]

00:13:20   i was absolutely devoted to it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/800">TS</a>]

00:13:21   going see realized in later seasons only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   doubled my interest in paying attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/803">TS</a>]

00:13:26   to it i can go along with that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   because it it it seemed to have like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   most interesting guest casting it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/810">TS</a>]

00:13:33   Uncle cast series and that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   right it'sit's very much as theater kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/816">TS</a>]

00:13:39   of both in terms of casting and in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/819">TS</a>]

00:13:42   of the writing there's there's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   more of this theatrical drama and part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   of it is just because they were able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   build and enrich elaborate so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/828">TS</a>]

00:13:51   lot of size nine here and i agree it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/831">TS</a>]

00:13:54   good show tonight make a nice guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   ok can you refresh our and is not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/836">TS</a>]

00:14:00   favorite show get chaos offer some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   mornings I think you're against it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   far yeah the best Star Trek series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   um I think Cisco did a good job at I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/846">TS</a>]

00:14:10   feel like you did a really unique spin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/850">TS</a>]

00:14:13   on Captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/853">TS</a>]

00:14:14   I think we'll probably touch on him for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/854">TS</a>]

00:14:15   best captains if we get to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   that said I think as far as being an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   icon i think on this list of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22   captain's I think he and Archer kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/862">TS</a>]

00:14:25   tied for the least interesting captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   is a character um I know every time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/867">TS</a>]

00:14:30   was like who the emissary got into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/870">TS</a>]

00:14:33   mysticism part of it it just it went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   a place I couldn't go to it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   science-fiction fan I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40   aesthetically I know when I watch star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/880">TS</a>]

00:14:43   trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/883">TS</a>]

00:14:44   I'm looking for the artists that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   create this world to create a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/886">TS</a>]

00:14:49   cool aesthetic my CT ng SE gorgeous work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/889">TS</a>]

00:14:53   when I si voy dressy gorgeous work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   because the same workers the energy yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   what exactly and I find the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/898">TS</a>]

00:15:01   deep space nine meaning you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/901">TS</a>]

00:15:04   the architecture of this space station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/904">TS</a>]

00:15:05   and interiors and even the Defiant I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/905">TS</a>]

00:15:09   think it's the least appealing visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/909">TS</a>]

00:15:12   star trek world and i also think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   with the ships and characters that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/914">TS</a>]

00:15:17   brought into the series of the life of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   it i think it's some of the week work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   an artistic sense and i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/921">TS</a>]

00:15:24   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/924">TS</a>]

00:15:24   god I was gonna say i would suggest that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   some of that is like intended to be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   way right because the station is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   supposed to be this Cardassian thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   it's very drab and yeah I guess it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   harder to defend the Defiant except that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   perhaps it's a it's a military vessel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/936">TS</a>]

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00:15:43   think that there are you something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   look for strong female characters and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   think that definitely exists on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/947">TS</a>]

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00:16:40   may be used to this on your Mac where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1000">TS</a>]

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00:16:46   characters an amazing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   expand automatically it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51   a great macro utility problem was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   getting it everywhere in iOS the custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1013">TS</a>]

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00:17:12   expand your abbreviations there you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   sync your snippets across OS 10 and iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17   via Dropbox you can save time typing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:20   that little iOS keyboard by having auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:23   expansion using text expander touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1043">TS</a>]

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00:17:31   website at smile software.com explaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1051">TS</a>]

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00:17:41   anything untoward with them because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1061">TS</a>]

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00:17:48   website and read their blog entry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1068">TS</a>]

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00:18:23   you have a choice for best series i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:27   indeed and it is not deep space 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:30   well that'll make this more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:31   than well it's unfortunate as much as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:34   love it and I do love it but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:38   think about it next generation took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   about three seasons to get good deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   space nine took about three seasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   Voyager enterprise even took three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:47   seasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:48   there's only one show that nailed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:49   right off the bat and then took three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   seasons to get bad and we exactly five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:54   yeah but yes so that that's the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:58   reason i picked the original series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1138">TS</a>]

00:18:59   the second reason is i can watch it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:03   and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04   over and over again and I can watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:05   in any order I want pretty much I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:08   have to have all the backstory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:11   thirdly if it weren't for that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   wouldn't have four other series to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   about you know that fandom that whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:19   the lightning in a bottle they caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:22   even just the first two seasons whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25   that was was so powerful that it kept it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:28   alive for 10 years without any new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:32   content unless you can't the animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   series I like the animated series you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:37   like it so much maybe you should take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   hey not not the great thing that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:43   wouldn't have huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:44   hey it but you know we we wouldn't still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:49   be talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:50   45 years later we wouldn't have hundreds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:54   of novels and comic books and 1212 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:57   movies 12 movies and a park official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1197">TS</a>]

00:20:00   animated series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02   there's something about that just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:06   basic concept that works and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:09   is judged against it you know deep space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   nine is to boldly stay where no one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   stayed before you know voyager is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   basically let's do the original again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:18   just in a new part of space that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20   haven't explored the next generation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   let's do the same thing you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:25   enterprises we've never been out here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:26   before let's do the same thing so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:29   know without that that at the heart we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32   would have anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:33   hello i would argue in fact that that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36   you look at the casting of all success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:37   of Star Trek series and they all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   their strengths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41   I feel like they're all really trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:44   recapture that Kirk Spock McCoy magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:47   and i would argue that none of them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   they all have their strengths yes but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   think none of them managed to nail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   because again i think it's one in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   million and that's why star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   survived is because they got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   one-in-a-million with those characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01   and and I'm I'm with you there to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04   would be my choice as well partially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:05   because it's sentimental and I grew up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   with it partially it's because yes all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10   of them are watchable i love the I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:11   the aesthetic i love the the fan shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:14   that the star trek continues and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16   that they making out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:17   with that with that set in southern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   Georgia that they built in a warehouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   that looks exactly like the original how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   many how many fan-made next generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:26   and voyagers and deep space nine is out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   yeah there aren't you know it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:33   route it's the root myth of Star Trek is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:36   this is the stuff i will say i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   watched where no man has gone before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   which is the second pilot and I of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:43   original series and I was amazed at how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   much they got in like how much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:49   star trek mythos is there in the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:52   yeah it's cause not everybody right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:55   is fully formed they do have much nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:56   comfy looking uniform yes I get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:59   impression that they tried to wash them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:00   and they fell apart like no uniforms now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:03   yeah the James our rightful lure James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:06   Parker is a well that just proves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   Gary Mitchell wasn't perfect yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   then the crazy the crazy like metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   telescoping things off the captain's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:13   chair and spotty showers a lot and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:16   know I I women i'm with Amanda Rose is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:20   not to say that they are not horror that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   you know that there are so many horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23   episodes of the original series and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   I find them even generally watchable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28   yeah and after the empath except i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:32   watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:32   I cannot Spock's brain till the cows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   come home you know watch the pit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36   you can watch Spock's brain man yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   bring and bring one is bracing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   Campion fight and stopwatch Neelix's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:43   lungs i guess yeah box brain that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:46   can watch them at the same time though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:47   because they're different parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   body any other thoughts about about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52   original series before I want a water or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   I will say my thoughts or worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:57   all right we'll come back that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00   to get more teasing the future we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   not and we will not miss the arena is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   going to be destroyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:05   I age transwarp Drive alright take us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   the Future Rihanna alright go ahead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:10   pick Voyager alright i love love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:14   literature i love voyager i think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   that hate Voyager or irrational and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:19   have just ok so i think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   several measures of what makes against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   our track I think there's production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   values i think their story I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   there's character development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:29   biosynthetic there's like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   mathematical measures of it like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34   the average quality of an episode and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:37   feel like if you look at TNG there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:40   wild wild wild like fluctuation between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:45   like first season and the best of both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48   worlds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:49   it's certainly true TOS is truth vs 9 um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:53   and I feel like by the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   Voyager came along I felt like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   understood their production pipeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:58   better to a point that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:02   certain base level of quality to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:06   episodes in the the makeup and special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   effects and the acting and frankly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:11   script quality that I think it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:14   average they're very very few episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   blender they're flat-out unwatchable in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19   my opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:20   um I like the characters more than any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22   other star track i realized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   subjective but i do think it has a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:27   more diverse cast than many other star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30   tracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:30   um yeah which i enjoy i also think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:34   the epic battles that they went up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:37   against like to the board plot lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   were excellent and I just love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:42   entire series where they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   overarching storyline and as they move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:48   towards this storyline like you get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:49   technology and you get deeper into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:52   characters and you know Harry grows into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:55   more than insecure incident yet Tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   Paris grows into a father in a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   a loving husband and stuff like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   just reckless criminal spawn for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:06   people right Voyager because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:07   haven't seen right right I they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:10   deserve to be away of course they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   get pretty much say any of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   who hate it because they have seen it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   Worf would say there is no honor in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   spoiler warnings you could say anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:22   about the six and seven seasons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   Voyager there are people who believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:25   that oh yeah that was applied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:26   Wow go watch that but that's I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:29   doesn't matter how bad start your guts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31   it's always a base level of enjoyment so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   i have to tell you guys when you say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36   I bailed out of that at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   that's hard for me to understand because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   even the worst star trek like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   feel like I've watched all the animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:45   series because it's the cannon and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   want to understand it so it may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   the cabin but you know that but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:52   are somebody else stands up something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:56   wanted to throw in an invoice defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58   one of the problems that it ran into was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1558">TS</a>]

00:25:59   in some markets the station that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:02   carrying paramount was going erratic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05   part of the reason that I dropped out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:06   it wasn't that I hated the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:07   necessarily though like a lot of Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   fans at the outside of news stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   recorded 10 Gonzalo and grew but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:15   actually watched the pilot was like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   is actually pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:18   what are the one of these bad reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:19   about what's the deal with this but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   they started bouncing around and I I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:25   trouble catching it wasn't as regular it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   was it was not necessarily always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   same night the same time the way the TNG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   in deep space nine work for me and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:32   course that got radically worse when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   enterprise came around but i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:37   was something that had unfairly going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38   for it just because it was it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:41   always consistently airing in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:44   single market around the country even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:45   even the pilot it deep the pilot did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:48   err where I lived I had to drive to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   friend's house in another state to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   the pilot huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:53   and that was the first episode try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   disappointment haha it's got a metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1615">TS</a>]

00:27:00   because he's traveling far away that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   couldn't get back an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:03   that's right that took me seven years so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:06   I'm not angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   that's a Voyager I'm just disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09   in it because i think that it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:12   been great and sure people can believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:16   that it is great because of course you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   know This Is opinion but it wasn't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:22   that's unfortunate but what specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:25   I wait I don't really like to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28   what you find bad about other than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:32   plots the characters of the concept is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:35   uh-huh what well yeah I i will suit so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:40   what I think and I was listening to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   random practice around and you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   talking about how you kind of I came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   you came to Voyager without like a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:49   encyclopedic knowledge of previous Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:50   Trek's right is that accurate scrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   ok so i think your context of seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   Voyager has a clean slate was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   is very different from the context of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   many people who had been watching since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   the first year of next-generation for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:03   as somebody who's been watching star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   track my all my life but especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   watching this this particularly this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:09   production team produced this series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   shows i felt like the Voyager especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:15   a lot of the Brandenburg APIs odor Leon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   I felt like they were sucking wind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:20   they literally like they had what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:21   had been working on the show on star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   trek in various forms for more than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   decade and they had really run out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   ideas were scraping the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   barrel and we're recycling lots of old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   plots from old star trek series so which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   would've been recycled a couple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   before that already right soso and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:38   this is a theory I had it when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:39   listening to random Trek episode is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   think maybe it was it was all new to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44   and you didn't have that jaded feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   that I had which is like oh good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   Brandenburg is writing another one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:49   these episodes that he always writes Ron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   Moore is writing another one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   episodes that he always right and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   that's I mean maybe that's why the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   tense episode of deep space nine doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   bother because you know I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:00   sitting on the edge of forever but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01   probably haven't seen out five times yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03   is the suspect who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   well the the singular nature of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   writing things is much more common in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   british TV in the the star trek shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   were all writers room shows so just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:12   because Ron Moore was credited as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   writers I mean it was a Klingon episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   yet he probably wrote every day yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:17   and Brandon braga always had a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   thing involving time and you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   the point is the this is largely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24   same group of writers for like a decade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:27   and any TV show that last decade unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   they totally turn over their writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:31   staff it's gonna you know it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   declines over time because they sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   done it all and they're trying to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   ways to stay novel and that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:38   reaction to Voyager when it was on was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   was not a problem with the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   although yeah eric is kind of boring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   they do dumb things with Chakotay but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   was sort of like I felt like I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:47   expecting this show to be different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   because of the premise because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   getting them out of the well-trod area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:54   of deep space nine in next-generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:55   where we had seen everything and nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   was on the frontier anymore and I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:00   like what I got was a lot of rehashed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03   next-generation episodes which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   waste of the premise so that was where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08   came from when I was watching voyager I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   didn't watch the last whatever two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:11   three years so you know again this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   something that is worth of netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   revisit that was writing for that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:16   really interesting opinion I thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:19   yeah but when i when i got my hands on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   the dvds that my brother loan to me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:24   dug into a lot of things that people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   picked out is really great seven of nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   episodes because the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   marketed her introduction of the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   turned me off in in respect that it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:35   it felt like they were going hey check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36   it out it's this girl and bodies organ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   isn't she awesome isn't she gorgeous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:41   when I actually got to watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:42   episodes she it's it's the extension of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45   the hue Eyeborg a thing from the annex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:48   generation but with a remarkable amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:51   of depth that I couldn't possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:54   imagine because of course I hadn't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   the damn episodes and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   really is you know I people people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:01   very strong opinions about it have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   strong opinions about it i would say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   majority of people that really slam on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06   Voyager it has to be that most of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:10   people have not actually watched more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   than maybe half a season with a purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   well i would say you can watch a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:15   seasons and be disappointed but it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   last 7 also i was going to mention that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   I thought the monkey thing was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:20   nice wrinkle and somebody in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:21   chatroom just mentioned it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   one of those words are disappointed me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   in that they're there a while in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   the helixes long episode you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   this on random track it's like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:30   episodes in and they're like a happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   crew and it's like realities that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   you threw away a really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   character dynamic because you're afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   you're going to have conflict it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   I just end and again that doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:42   the show wasn't good it means that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   set up for disappointment because i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   expectations that were not that were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:49   no I think that's really fair i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   that's really fair I did say is just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   argument for it i think so it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:57   destroyed me about enterprise is I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59   like artistically and aesthetically I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:02   think that show failed i think like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05   look of the uniforms as bad i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   think the amex design is particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:08   good you just hate audiences with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:12   and just a nice but I feel like boys or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   even like if you disagree with the plots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   and all that date it is a really superb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:20   startrack aesthetically I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:23   voyager is the most beautiful star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   ship except for maybe the Prometheus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28   a few other designs i think if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:31   look at the special effects in series i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33   think they're they're uniformly better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   than anything except for the movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38   I just think week to week it had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   strong production night because like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   said Jason I'm looking at in Reverse so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45   I look at tos and it's really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:48   look past the editing of the Goron see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   which is a jump you know however some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:53   the some of the makeup which is frankly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56   awful and to me it's kind of hard to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   past that limited production value as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01   you go backwards like the cg in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   first few seasons of TNG it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06   even half with no cgt it's just mine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   yeah well like the encounter at Farpoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11   like you know that has a CG net out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   there it's some songs today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   oh no that's terrible right thats that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   almost it was almost entirely model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:18   working yeah that was the brother was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   not good that just cg fishing net thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:23   from space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   Scott do you have are you signing onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   one of these series is as the best do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   you have another choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   well i mean i think that deep space nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:34   is the best series but I've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:37   this before on Randy very soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   do you hear her there's I think the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:42   series and the one that you hold dearest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:45   to you which might not be the best one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   and for me that is the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:50   because that's when i first started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   watching Star Trek and I got turned on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   to it and so when I think Star Trek I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:57   think jean luc picard I think Riker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:01   you know Deanna Troi and crush these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:02   the characters you mean star trek to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   so i will since Tony picked ds9 and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:08   though this is not a draft i will i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:09   wave the flag of the next generation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:12   bringing back all of the hope and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:15   promise that was in Star Trek and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   get past the first season it's good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:20   pioneering a lot of things that became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   staples of ds9 and four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   major that followed at the cliffhanger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:25   episodes the UH the the not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:30   entirely self-contained stuff not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   all the way to the serialization that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:33   came late in deep space nine and we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36   bits of invoice juror and not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:39   well-executed bits of an enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:40   there there were there were things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:44   next generation inducted into the star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:48   trek fabric that granted Roddenberry was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:52   around for a good enough chunk of next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   generation but he was involved enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:57   a point that the writers room actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59   got a chance to introduce some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:02   dangerous concepts and of course in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   case of best of both worlds something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   that they thought they were all getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:07   fired and well we're probably not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   have to figure out a way to get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10   this or where to go after this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   screwed good luck to the next guy and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:15   a result of that kind of throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:18   caution to the wind ended up doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21   stuff that made people love the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   we're staying safe and just trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:26   nothing but red TOS as they tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:29   repeatedly and poorly in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   couple seasons just wasn't working some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   of the failures that they saw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   next-generation for the reason that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36   series that came after it existed so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:39   wouldn't be able to pick deep space nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   different work for next-generation I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:42   mean it came along and and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   cemented it as an industry to say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   not just a bunch of people writing books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   and comic books and trying to keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   alive it's like no there's an audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:51   for this and they want more and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   want even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:54   yeah just playing devil's advocate I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   would actually bring TNG is probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:59   second worst to the hilltop dr those is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:03   Briana's list is the opposite of mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   essentially brianna is mirror universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:08   matter-antimatter cases i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:11   grow a beard wait which one of you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   the good one is definitely jason says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   that was wearing a sash then we'll know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:17   did you know who's got an agony booth I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:21   feel like because TNG is a product of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:24   the eighties just like you can look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:26   voyager is very much product of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:29   nineties and i feel i feel like i let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32   you know when you tune into like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   eighties action with a your kind of sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:37   surprised by how trusting and gleeful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:41   and like believing of authority like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:44   people it is that there's a cheery trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   that's there that's a little modern and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:49   do you know what I mean like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50   that kind of b-movie quality to it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:53   feel like that really exists throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   TNG and I feel like if you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   watching it having actually watched it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:00   at the time I think you look back at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   and it's in this weird zone between like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:06   TLS is so campy that you kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:10   just laugh at it because it's a it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12   example like sixties camp and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   almost entertaining in the sexist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   sometimes and then you have like you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:20   all the way forward and enterprises more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   serious like it's full on dry and i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:26   like because it was made in the eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   in this in-between era of that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   make sense to you like it's it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   a little cheesy at times it's it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35   have some really weird tone shifts where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   it goes super goofy one episode and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:40   goes you know if we don't get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   treaty through the universe's do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45   there's going to be war which we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:46   going to do in this series we'll leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:47   that for deep space nine a series that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   that openly courts conflict and actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:52   emotions and breakdowns of diplomatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   stuff we live in a utopian bubble where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   there's nothing wrong and we don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57   have money will be yeah everything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00   there's probably nothing on the fringe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   that's different than this i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:03   hard to pick apart the fact that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   original series was first announced in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   the sixties and next-generation was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   the eighties and early nineties and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   that by the time these other series i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   mean the series were built on the backs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14   of those shows but at the same time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   were able to evolve and go beyond the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   basic scope of Gene Roddenberry and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   makes them difficult to calibrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:23   because you know I i again i would i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   would say that with next-generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   hadn't succeeded next generation is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   show that has in some ways the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   second-biggest hold on popular culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:34   in that people really like that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:37   breakout hit across a broad spectrum of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:40   people but it also was the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   eighties dentist office bridge and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   those things and and was Gene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   Roddenberry's hand was on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   and you can feel that the the everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   is perfect and we wear jumpsuits when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:53   they started to pry his fingers up after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   eat sort of pulled back that's when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   got good that's when it got good and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00   a star trek just like any science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   fiction is best when it's reflecting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   culture that it's in so I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   the original series deals with many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   things that people were thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:09   the sixties and it was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:10   progressive show for the sixties right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12   and and the next generations of its time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:15   they're all of its time so it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   tanaka show because it was made 45 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:20   ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21   yeah well and and I mean I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   looking at this for a while now just no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   TV in general has I mean there's a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   growth of sophistication and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31   storytelling and style yeah yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   know so i can i can sort of step back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   and go yeah it's it's they're wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:38   pajamas its cardboard sets but I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   look past that like when I see the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   new remastered episodes of the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:46   series with the fancy effects and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   planets that look realistic and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   swooping camera shots and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   look great because it doesn't match the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:53   rest of the the aesthetic it's it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:56   it's well done they did a great job but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:59   it's not right it doesn't look right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   I don't I don't mind you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   mind the the cheesiness of it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:06   it's just it'sit's the story I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   but there's a fit the story like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:12   look at the best of TLS like which would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   be wrath of khan which I know is a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   but that was their best story and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:19   can look at the best of TNG which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20   best about worlds are the best of inner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:23   Voyager and there's a certain move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26   timelessness to the conflict and acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:29   and you completely buy into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31   universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:32   whatever gets my message braces as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   watch TNG I feel like they're acting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:38   same way when I watch an eighties cop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   show it feels like acting and I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:43   it's best I don't feel that way but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   feel that way a lot watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   so although i would say I I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:51   pick either one of those as the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:52   episodes of either one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:53   it's okay we're gonna move on my set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:57   Moyes is you already stipulated ds9 if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:00   if I could the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:01   the one thing that I had prepared that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   wanted to say about the space tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:04   its brief ok it's actually a response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:08   to something that got thrown slung at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   i'll say in the chat room just now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:13   have been constantly accused of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16   being a real star trek fan because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:17   love deep space nine and this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:20   something that I i take head-on as very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   much the reason that I like the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   nine so much is that the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:27   that a lot of people stand by as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:30   Roddenberry would not have liked that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:31   show period end of story because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34   future is a utopia and isn't going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   great in the future when there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   conflict and no conflict does not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:41   interesting story make the wrath of khan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:44   is not a goes back 20 story if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:48   you cite the the kind of classic things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:51   that are the best examples of Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   and things from tos and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   really the best things from TOS that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:58   people cite all the time are the times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   when it broke pattern and actually made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   a substantive change for the ongoing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05   ongoing myth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:06   sometimes I think people get into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:07   run Barry culture Roddenberry and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:10   they're really exciting is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:11   season the next generation which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:14   does not match up with the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15   series in most cases either but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18   also i mean yeah that nobody gets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:21   tell anybody how to be a fan or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   their fandom is that just does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:24   allowed unless you accidentally pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:25   like sequence is your favorite I'm yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   that's when you're out that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   probably don't forget that don't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   some Darwinian my favorite character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   yeah i like that i like the dolphin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:34   character in sadar what you need and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:37   Darwin is that you have a name dammit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39   tony i do not know his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41   I'm a real structure okay and he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43   wants to understand what it is to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   human but I hate dolphins it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   those is definitely yeah racist honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:51   but when it really comes down to it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   the reason that i love deep space nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:54   so much is that you know the the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:57   that i mentioned a minute ago about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   not being not being afraid to keep you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:02   off guard and have characters that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05   not perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:08   echoes of characters that came before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10   next generation or TOS even in cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:13   where unfortunately that led to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:14   being cardboard for a while I Kira that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:18   you didn't necessarily know what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:19   expect and different turns that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   different characters might take whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   it was guest stars or core series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:25   characters when it came to major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:29   conflicts that erupted or divided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   loyalties or just the the fact for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   the Deep Space nine was the first series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36   to really have an ongoing character like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   Derek in it for me is what cemented it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:42   as you know what this this is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   that we'll see what happens after and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   there are lots of things I like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   what came before but that was interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:51   in telling compelling stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:54   decided that decided that it was okay to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   turn conflict on its head and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:57   didn't have to be black and white Cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   War good evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01   alright I am going to stipulate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   original series as David did and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:07   that my second would like at like Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   would have been the next generation so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   totally mirror of Brianna up so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:14   let's very quickly because we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   run out of things to argue about if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   don't argue faster Tom Snyder with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:21   series so let's talk about the let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:22   talk about the the work the worst series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:26   we'll just throw bomb and walk away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   quite frankly tell us why and then we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   just move on to the next one but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:31   gonna let Brianna go first here so throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   it throw it go get quick stab me in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   heart to do is stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   I don't understand how reasonable adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41   can fill that he left the best series it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:44   is double let's flashback to when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47   picked her cuz my favorite character and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   I heard you gasped audibly his second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:55   favorite character is misogyny okay look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:58   just mathematically fact let me see my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:01   husband's 14 years older than I am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   watched fds pls a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06   ok come home is watching I thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:09   were gonna just started and stopped at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   14 years old right haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:15   people's interpretation is that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17   oh no i've seen these upsets a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:21   kids my will frequently man i'm amazed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:25   by how bad the average episode of TLS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:29   and there's a really good episode like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:32   sitting on the edge of forever or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   balance of power like when it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   it's really good but you don't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:39   editing is uneven special effects are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:42   bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:43   the editing i can't say enough bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   things about the anything who edited the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   Gorn fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:49   who in their right mind f is it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   when what world was exciting back i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54   paid entirely in gin alley undergoing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   find one of the one of the most iconic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   fights not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2758">TS</a>]

00:45:59   yeah absolutely is it so far imagine how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:02   bad everything else was that this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   good i think the Gorn fight actually was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:08   a problem or with the coverage that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   shot than the editing because it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:11   they got a guy who can't move in a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   costume and then i won't shatter running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   around and got that gives rocks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:16   they're like I don't even know what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:17   do with this right i'm not sure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   editor is fault there anyway and get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:22   is iconic and i love it so there haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:25   nostalgia is a hell of a drug yep it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:28   and i was going to say Brianna you with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   the problem is you need to not watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   this under duress that that will cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   your entire experience shackles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   generally have an adverse effect on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:38   opinion of something there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:39   they're all good in their own way i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:42   all star trac period but I just I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   like as far as qualities the works there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:47   are also barely any women in TLS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50   this is why i think the movements are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   much better because they you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:56   bring these complex to the forefront [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   um I actually think Star Trek on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   whatever they call the new when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:01   making that sound stage you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   about by introducing the counselor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   character that raises my interest in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08   series very sharply um but I just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11   it's it's so campy it's so bad it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:16   I just I don't know how you can claim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:19   this the best on track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   all right your-your-your complaints are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:22   noted okay Scotty duly noted Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:26   layaway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:27   what kind of universal million where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   someone is pics favorite series a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   Voyager least favorite of the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   where craziness this is bringing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:35   universe were all just living in it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:38   figured i was certain that we could all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41   agree on at least this that the without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:44   a doubt the undisputed worst series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47   instructor history is enterprise you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:51   start with the theme song and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:52   really my argument ends and started haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:55   that's about where i stopped watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:58   tips that works for me and Scott you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:01   made the point on several episodes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   random correct you've got you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:04   scott bakula who is a fairly win a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   likable actor and you give him you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:09   him grumpy and unapproachable great idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:12   I think I say that all the time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   like you take one of the most likable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   you know I mean Sam want to believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   will be a beautiful character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   let's mammogram because yeah and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23   never smiles the only time he ever has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   fun is that mirror universe episode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:28   it's a blast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:29   it's no good ok I think seasons three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:34   and four of enterprise are underrated I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   I'd radically underrated yes the lab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39   will that last season with Manny Coto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:40   running it and and making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:43   let's pick up all the little threads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45   from the original series and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:46   sort of the bridge to the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   series rather than making it i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   actually go and say this is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   examples to of the exhausted writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   staff because by those last two seasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57   of of enterprise the exhausted writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   staff was gone and it was mostly newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02   writers and you could see that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:05   trying new things that bring brandon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   Braga and Rick Berman were much less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   involved or not involved and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:10   came back for the finale which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   terrible the the thing the thing for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   with with enterprise is once Manny Coto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   got the rains that show got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:20   exponentially more consistent and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:23   it is why is why i will say loud and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:26   proud code or GTFO it's it's too bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   that in fact ironically the show that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:31   didn't know why it existed right when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:34   got to the point where they cancelled it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:35   was when I thought oh I actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   watching this again and then it was gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   it was like Enterprise just got there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42   and they killed it and I wanted to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   more about that temporal Cold War that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   oh my god so bad and and yet you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   the two partner in the mirror universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:49   was awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:51   yeah it certainly had a high point so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   I'm not gonna say was all bad and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:54   final season was great not just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   it was last season but going in that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/2996">TS</a>]

00:50:00   what we thought but it turned out it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:01   actually not bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   the best episode was the last because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:04   can start from 101 wait such a bad last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:09   episodes and such a bad episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   yeah that's what it's got my I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   think you made a popular choice but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   let's move on moist you have a you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:16   a choice for worst Star Trek series you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   can sign onto one of these if we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:22   pick em you do it's it is our way if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:27   have to pick its I you know airing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:30   different markets and everything be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:31   damned if i had to put Voyager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   enterprise on an even keel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36   I unfortunately have to sign on with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:38   enterprise to because when i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41   went back and watched the first couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   seasons of Voyager it's actually way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:45   better than people had had said that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:48   was first couple seasons of enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   get endlessly mired in you know what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:53   need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:53   guess what guys everything was building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   a nice head of steam we had some great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   character work going on we need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59   some of this boring temporal Cold War [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   crap again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:01   yeah for no good reason and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:05   showed how totally embattled that show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07   was where you know you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   special features on the blu-rays they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   been putting out where they've been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   candid about what a frog production it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   was where they had like 25 year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   executives in the network going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   hey so is there like any way that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:21   could have their be like a band playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:24   on the ship where every week we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:28   like muse come in and they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:31   future muse and play a song or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:34   that that that that Vulcan check is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   pretty hot how about some like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   decontamination shell that they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:41   get on naked and rub it on each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   that'd be cool man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:44   I mean it could be like the Sailor Moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   transformation sequence but way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:47   exploitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:50   ok so that's another vote for enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52   another brick in the wall Tony what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   your what's your choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:55   I yeah i'll just throw another brick in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   the wall is I don't think I've seen less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:01   than one entire episode of enterprise so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:02   that's not a spare but it on my break is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:05   alright you you should see the mirror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:08   episode it was that it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:11   Brianna you've convinced me to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:12   voyageur a chance and I'm going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:13   that already is that time I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:17   don't I don't need somebody coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:18   of the woodwork as element enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   the only people i don't know really an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   enterprise have taste profiles that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   not compatible as the night the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:28   diplomatic way huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   they don't like good stuff i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:33   power song on my ipod for when I'm i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:36   you know when you're out running and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:37   you're like I can't go any further and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   then you'd like you kicking your power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   song is the enterprise theme song for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:44   the mirror mirror episode because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   so awesome that you feel like the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:49   is gonna end i will check that out maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   the best thing that ever prize has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:52   for us is a single mp3 file his goods up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:56   the computer and the last yeah but last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   season it's not added until the aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:01   when it is very bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   yeah the lens I like to like it secretly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:06   web i wish to Paul had been on deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   space 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:09   she's good she was wasted character down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12   tremendously raised a lot of land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   characters on enterprise though and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   then and then even like Scott Bakula [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:17   gets wasted but a lot of plans character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   Porthos he's cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20   you did nice dog but like Tucker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   tucker and and and travis and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:28   mean we're gonna have another guy are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   like all interchangeable boring guys I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   do like dr. phlox well dr. phlox's fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:35   I'm supposed dog into space i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:38   Russians did that that's like show G but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   like bringing a dog to the workplace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   you're that guy who's got his dog in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   cubicle and then the it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46   meetings with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:47   he's the captain to do it once yet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   know what I worked for that guy and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:50   was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:51   yeah I don't have don't need my escapism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   to have that guy like I grew I grew up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:56   with a beagle i have a beagle I would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   was like the captain has a friggin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   beagle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:00   come on guys that is such hardcore fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:03   service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:03   in JJ Abrams first Star Trek movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:06   there's actually a reference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   enterprise of all things and it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:11   Scotty reveals that he accidentally were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:14   not actually he tested his transport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   technology on Admiral archers beagle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:19   and and Kirk says what happened he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:22   I'll tell you when it reappears months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   off from the animal of history aa-t you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27   killed the UQ technically they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30   eviscerated the patterns just a group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   that integrated in the bumper that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   way I want to go but I you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   they will reappear in a Dyson Sphere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37   will be kind of find that the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   things that I did like about enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:40   unfortunately just those first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   seasons dragged down and possibly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   really did dig the idea of hey let's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:45   an away mission and wearing baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47   caps and we've got the dog it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   working like a barbecue later whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52   enterprise bitch you know I David what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:55   your choice i look at characters like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   Neelix and Harry Kim and and Chakotay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:02   and i still have to pick enterprise that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:08   was close friend and I'll also the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:11   three seasons I just it is boring it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:15   it's just I don't know it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:21   like this time suck you know and I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   myself reading or you know hey once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   what's what's over here and oh there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   still a show on ok watching episodes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:30   quantum leap you yeah well thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:33   about how would this have been really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:34   good if Sam Beckett leaped into Archer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:37   and then he would be fun but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:42   again once Manny Coto comes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   boom yeah I just too late and oh you let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:51   it's just I can't I can't watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:54   I mean I go back I'm picking a voyager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   episodes that I haven't watched I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   can't get through that first couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   seasons of enterprise you know I get how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   I I watched one because it was on random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:07   track and I wanted to be able to follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:08   the conversation and and it was fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:13   is that the one where dr. see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:14   everybody's asleep you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:15   dr. flies good see that's what that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:18   blog site before those has a good part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   in that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:20   yeah and attempted to dream to play i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:23   i'm there and then two-thirds way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:26   through it goes oh by the way this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   still an enterprise plot and God would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   eject you had you were going you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   going somewhere enterprises basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   gotten four votes out of out of out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:38   the five we've had so far so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   it's with you it has won this election [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:41   of shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:42   so as a result from my pic as the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:45   voter i'm just going to take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:46   animated series because that's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:47   star trek it doesn't even count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:48   forget it Oh Cindy and James do James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:52   doing does all the voices though all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:55   voices every last one so let's move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:59   it and we've been going for an hour so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:02   want this to move quickly there are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   that many to choose from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:05   you're gonna you're gonna give me your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:06   choice and a few sentences about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:09   then everybody else just needs to we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:12   just we'll do this quickly but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:13   going to talk about the movies there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:14   many movies to choose from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16   I wanted i'm going to go through and ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:17   you for your favorite and then i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   to go through and ask you for what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   think the worst star trek movie is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23   we're going to start with is the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:26   the best start with the best we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28   end on a negative note so we'll start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:29   with the best and this could be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:34   again it's not the raft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:35   what would you like to see what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:36   you like to speak for iris I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   waffling I was waffling between two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   different ones and and I'm gonna get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:43   sailed again and I'm going to make a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   of can add JJ Abrams is 2009 star trek i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:49   legit try i hate my ssi I voice I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:53   thought about choosing that too actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   i will have watched that movie a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:58   the reason i'm choosing a is because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3478">TS</a>]

00:57:59   assume nobody else is going to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   trippin because I because I dragon but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03   still yes okay well i know i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   saying it's it's it's something that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   have a feeling somebody might pick it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:08   for a different category about going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   say which category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:11   no spoilers the thing that I love about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   it is that it provides an entry point to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:17   star trek for people who actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:18   actively resist getting anywhere near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:21   star track for the longest time possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   now whether whether the the movie itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   is a Star Trek fans cup of tea for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:28   the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:29   reason that I think it is the best movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   is because of the function that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   serves for the cannon as a whole it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:36   provides an entry point for people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   were 0 star trek stupid surcharge boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   and granted it is not like a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:43   other star trek but there is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   that person that gets into star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   from the Abrams movies yeah that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50   back and looks at us and looks at eng [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   and destabilize the star trek is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   something that you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:55   jackasses the nerds were right all along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   its great distilled for me and we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3537">TS</a>]

00:59:00   about this when we talked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01   original series and Briana's reaction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   it all that this this movie distilled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:06   for me what the things I loved about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08   while bringing it into a modern context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:11   it took those characters and and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   the aspects of the show and said okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   it's been 50 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   let's take another crack at this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:20   think successfully I wouldn't rank at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   first but i would rank highly so thumbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:25   up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:25   yes it would be and it would be in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   top three or four that that that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   that is my base i think i've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31   number three in my in my list if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   waking them so yeah if I were you if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35   were picking personal favorite it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37   probably end up being star trek six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:38   interesting to tell Tony I your turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:44   yeah i will choose the blade home as out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:51   oh no she was wrong LOL record is a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:55   of fun i get dr. Hans but love whales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:59   and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   Darwin approves of your choice by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   way your favorite Star Trek character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03   from george clinton also if you through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:06   no mom and you know maybe I'm channeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:09   a little bit too much my favorite movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11   as opposed to the best movie i have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13   ifci watch that one more than any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:16   other Star Trek movies even though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   prefer the next-gen movies but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   when you look at your options for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:21   next ten movies your options aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   great so i resorted to movies into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:26   extended episodes and extended is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:31   generous so I think this movie has a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   of crossover appeal in terms of yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:36   mean some people might even say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:37   well it's not a star trek movie because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   normal people can like it but what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:43   it was it was a hit yeah yeah we get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   the people and it's you know it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   funny it still has cut you know neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49   Star Trek story to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   um so yeah I love to isle of wight home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   i'm ok with whales captain and I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:56   greater ringing have loaded with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:57   colorful metaphor arms up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   double double double dumbass on you boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:02   is I don't know why I picked you out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   feel like that doesn't one of the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   right time traveling back to like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   we conveniently shoot this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:09   present-day for budgetary reasons than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11   any other version of the head so San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:14   Francisco i was born is born it has so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:18   many great moments with scotty talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:19   through the mouth computers man yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:22   ten out will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:23   Kirk selling the classes that McCoy gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   him and spots like Captain that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27   gift and it will be able to think again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29   will be again was just dark ages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:33   Abram sites there's a reference to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   and in the from star trek to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   there's the spock tell Scotty something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:40   from the future about transwarp beaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:43   which is how Scotty invented it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   just like when Scotty teaches the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:46   how to make transparent aluminum it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   Scotty captain of the USS paradox it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:54   gets to be really funny but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:55   characters are still very much then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:56   tournament only have like McCoy and pies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:59   that people are something like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:00   they know really characters are wider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:02   they're able to have funny things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:03   them dr. McCoy I always what is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06   bizarre college yet doctor gave me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:09   pill grooming new kidney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:10   I love that moment that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:11   movement a little lady in the hospital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:14   David what's your what's your choice a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:17   wrath of God now hands down I can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:21   know my second favorite star trek movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:23   is so far away from wrath of khan ality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:26   because it's his operatic is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:30   time Jim Kirk genuinely faces death and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:33   faces something that learned something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35   and of course Jackie wins it back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37   erases it and then the next movie but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:40   didn't know that then and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:43   it's the one time we at least in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:46   movies where he has an adversary that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:49   worthy of him where he has to use his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   brain and he can't just sleep with a hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   chick to get out of whatever it is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:56   know it's it's like you get to see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   as a tactical genius which he supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01   is you get to see him playing poker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:03   essentially and and you get Ricardo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:06   Montalban chewing every inch of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08   scenery the chapter hasn't you also get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   his most mature relationship with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   woman with Carol Marcus and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:16   there's just there's so many levels to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:18   it and and you know I credit nick meyer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21   with putting many of those levels in but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   it is just I mean there are things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:27   that I still think about how they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:30   connect i still have huge chunks of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:33   dialogue stuck in my head I love all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   other good movies but that when I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:39   that would be on my desert island discs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41   that would be one of the five i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:42   take the aisle I can't really watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   because the seven years into skirt my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   wife is the same way she saw when she I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48   don't want something crawling by ear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50   they put your interest in our bodies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52   made us realize two things i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:56   extremely strong feelings about that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:59   just love the kirk and Carol Marcus have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:00   sent everyone else off into the Genesis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:03   coca and they have this really intense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05   you know like one of the most serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:06   conversations you ever seen Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08   and check out his lying in the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10   the cave going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:11   don't make me listen to these kept in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:14   too much information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16   he can't he can't hear anything is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:17   got done yeah he'll love this year I hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:20   the Rangers dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22   yeah i think yes I of course David you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:25   know we we did a whole episode about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:26   i'm going to their that's right Briana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28   what do you think i have to agree and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30   there's so few movies that are of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:35   quality the would not change a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:38   scene of them and I just you know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:41   watched in Reverse like I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   like I grew up in the nineties don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45   love with Voyager and start watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:48   original movies and it's it's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:52   far and away the best script the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:55   acting um I just I couldn't say single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:59   bad thing about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:00   the money is less scary if you watch in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   Reverse too because the stuffing out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:03   bounds back online you detonate they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:07   people would argue that they doing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09   the goodies and it ends when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:10   dropped car off on desert planet the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   I i literally cry every single time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:16   spot die like I don't work crush dancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:19   about this thing looks like i have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   cried in a movie theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   oh yeah the i mean the the moment I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:27   I get sandwich spot guys it's when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29   Kirk's voice catches and you know is was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   the most human human you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:34   oh you know it for me it's the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36   where where where Kirk gets the call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:39   better come down here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:41   better yeah that's it starts now and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43   looked at chairs and share is m times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45   no I'm getting chills right have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   now Scott I like Star Trek to also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:51   because the that's the first starter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53   where you feel like Kirk's actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:54   actually have consequences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   yeah bad things just happen to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58   because he's just been gallivanting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3958">TS</a>]

01:05:59   about the galaxy but I'm not gonna pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:02   it because it is in fact my favorite one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   but i hope it sure you're gonna do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06   I'm going to do which is just yeah okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:08   Scott and I are in complete agreement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:09   then ok go Scott go go for it first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:12   contact was I feel like generations is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:16   guess technically the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:16   next-generation movie but it had captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   kirk and Scotty was in it and he kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   you know stole the show a little bit so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:22   the really first next-generation move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:25   for me was first contact yeah and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27   just fantastic a lot of fun i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:30   Borg so anytime the board on a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:32   screen with a big-budget you've got me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:33   sold the poor Queen is great creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:35   character Zefram Cochrane is fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:39   yeah Troy getting drunk is fun reg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:42   Barclay makes an appearance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44   yeah course little near and dear to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   heart is it a cinematic wonder know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:50   it's a lot of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:51   jean-luc Picard goes crazy and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:54   just like it it is my second favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:57   star trek movie after wrath of khan i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59   feel like it gets short shrift people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:00   kind of wave away the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02   movies but it's a really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04   movie made on not a big budget but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:07   did they did a lot of help they did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:08   lot of good stuff with it's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:10   combination of the you know it's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12   travel back in time but it still in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14   future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:15   lots of fun lots of action a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:18   great action on the ship some great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20   character moments you bro you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   must be drawn here you broke your little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:23   ships all of that stuff I I do I'll i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:26   love it i think it is i would rank its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28   second and then the JJ Abrams Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:31   third but it is AC Picard's big old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:33   biceps here over here include a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:35   great data moments there's that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   action sequence when they're out on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   deflector dish with Worf and he ties the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   guys like arm around as a tourniquet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:44   oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:45   lots of great stuff in that and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   worth mentioning you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:48   raffiq on Deanna Troi getting drunk is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   the most a woman gets to do in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   generation movie so I'm with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54   yeah well actually i like i like Alfredo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:58   it watered it is kind of a thankless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4078">TS</a>]

01:07:59   part yet she was just being the moral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:02   compass 44 Picard and that and yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   yeah she's more part comes for Picard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   and Zefram Cochrane in fat which which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:09   you don't know i can get to see and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:11   loved one should be bored is that sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13   yeah and for queen is a great for queen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:15   is a great character Alex creek does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:16   really great job with the board queen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18   too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:18   yeah yeah where's alfre woodard statue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:20   in the star trek universe effort Cochran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22   got one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:23   yeah yeah typical typical man they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:27   very post nuclear war of them to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   it's it's a great example of what an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   outstanding director Jonathan fresas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33   their hand and I'm I'm really it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:37   deeply bothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:38   that that that he basically you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:42   got thrown to go here go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:44   Thunderbirds movie after insurrection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   now because he he is and he's to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:51   day one of the best sharpest TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53   directors out there alongside of another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:57   one of Star Trek colleagues roxann [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:59   dawson yeah so let's let's move on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:02   on a negative note we're going to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:03   everybody bring out your dead the star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   trek movie that you could just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:06   take David Laura we're going to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:09   with you for a long time for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11   it was nemesis cos i mean there are two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:17   good words in the whole film in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   Irving Berlin that's it but I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:22   you were going to say blue sky do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:25   god no i'm not in irving berlin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:29   anyway let me get the best scene in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:32   emphasis was a deleted scene which would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:35   have made the film marginally less awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:37   but the movie that right now for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:43   cannot stand and and it's I've I flipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:47   on this in the last year is into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:50   darkness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:51   oh because because it has some great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:55   stuff in it but the more i think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57   it the less it makes sense and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4197">TS</a>]

01:10:02   that pisses me off about it and boy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04   pisses me off when the spoilers get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:08   about wrath of khan host box gonna dice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10   box gonna die you're supposed to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:11   halfway through the movie so nick meyer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:14   shut it down rewrote the whole thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:17   that it starts off with spot dyeing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:20   then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:20   oh that must have been what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22   talking about so thats box actual death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   at the end hits you even harder right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:27   when the news got out about a Benedict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:30   Cumberbatch's gonna be con what JJ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32   Abrams do he went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   no he isn't and that's it and he kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:37   going with the movie had as if this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   going to be a big surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   oh he's really con oh yeah I know I lied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:44   to get back just makes me angry but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:48   love a lot of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:51   there are conflicting reports as to as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   to the actual the actual everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:55   happened behind the scenes in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57   who wanted to keep what secret and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59   wanted to make that character hold on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01   i'm just saying i do not lay all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:04   blame on JJ Abrams because he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:05   director because this is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:06   people do all the time the directors no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:07   minors and fall for everything so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09   hold on hold on i'm just saying well now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:11   i know so what I'll say is I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:14   I don't think information roll out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:16   movie is legitimate criticism of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18   movie but your opinion is noted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   Brianna to turn oh yeah oh it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:25   really top tough question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27   it's hard to be negative hard to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:32   from many so many bad movies either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:33   for a long time it was the one with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:36   whales because I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   sony she doesn't even know the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:41   she doesn't even know the number help me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:42   so dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   I'm sorry don't worry Tony this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46   safe place wait i have your time leaders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:49   meeting about Star Trek for a voice on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:51   the highway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:53   what's not to love you sorry I'm amongst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55   people because someone threatening my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:56   way its entire was very upset yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58   cool like being in a stolen Klingon shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:02   like that's kind of cool but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:05   so campy and like transparent aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:08   and it's it's just so much about is bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:11   but that's that like actually I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:14   arguing with Frank my husband about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16   which was the worst and he actually made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:18   me to watch all these along the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   you know again I again I am stir well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:23   the worst part but i'm going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25   that out like let's decide objectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:27   which one is worse and i don't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:30   worst one I think that you have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:33   star trek insurrection is the worst one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:36   on everything for data like because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:40   used as a flotation device from from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:44   know two women took out their boobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46   being Farber to like either plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:49   surgeons as oh yeah very poor hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:53   and with the staple gun yeah oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:56   going on blemishes it's bad but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:59   conceivable angle that could be bad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:01   I understand what they were going for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   like a dark Federation was making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:06   difficult choices because they're about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:07   to lose that's a cool idea for series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:11   and I got the the design of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:13   enterprise was actually one of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15   ships and all star track but it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:18   fails in every way moving into the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:21   i don't think there's much you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:22   something about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:24   yeah yep that's not a good one Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:27   what's your what's your choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29   well now I'm questioning my choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:30   because I agree with bri haha don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:34   what's going on but instruction uh is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:37   awful awful awful it's boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:40   it makes little sense and it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:44   don't watch it and it's it's even worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:47   than Star Trek five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   yeah that's saying I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:51   something is aa is what do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:54   enough people who said insurrection I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:57   gonna go with the one that that for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:58   is worst totally for sentimental reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:00   and not not because of the qualitative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:04   judgment i have for it and it's also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:06   reason that i can't i can't say wrath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08   khan is my favorite one of the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:09   anymore my younger brother and I watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:13   all these movies all the time he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:15   autistic and Star Trek was one of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:17   he loved deepest and most dearly on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:20   planet and I in things about 2010 he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:24   cancer and my mom went on this tour of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:27   taking in Star Trek conventions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29   paying the absorbent amount of money so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:31   that he could see all the actors in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   and take pictures with them and do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:35   kind of thing and he was particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37   fixated on the the heat the the magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:42   device of star trek 3 reviving Spock as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:45   he was clinging to this kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:47   reincarnation thing there was no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:49   that he was going to you know lose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51   cancer and that sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:53   well and I the thing the thing that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:57   makes it to wear for me I just can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4497">TS</a>]

01:15:00   can't watch it which you know could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:02   related to the same reason a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:04   people dislike them because we go it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:06   cop out nobody really dies in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08   universe is that he finally went and saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:11   William Shatner in the show and he you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:15   know that the captain got briefed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:16   what was going on with my brother any he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:19   said I need you to look me right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:22   i'm going to give you a direct order and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   I need you to need to listen to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26   mother an initiative to be to be well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:29   behaved and fight the cancer fight it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31   and it like it was it was like a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:34   dollar wrath of khan level of conviction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:36   that he gave this thing and and for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:41   it's it's emblematic and we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:43   talking about any part of Star Trek or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   Star Wars or anything what we consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:46   best and worst there those really deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:49   subjective things about them that aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:52   from creaky production values or overtly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:55   misogynist narratives or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:59   favorite characters being mistreated or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:00   something like that you know that for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:04   makes me reflect on on the way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:07   feel about all of this stuff and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:10   made me think about things through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:11   through a different lens in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:13   what I like and what I don't like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:15   the reasons that i'm convinced that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:17   like or don't like them and I probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:19   brought the room way way down against on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21   it honey and honey totally unfun path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   but but for me it's when I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:27   worst or that i liked the least because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:31   I have such deep personal connection so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:33   many bits of of track that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:37   where my head goes well alright thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:39   for sharing that much as I appreciate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:41   Tony what's your deeply personal story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:44   no I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:45   don't even try that is what do you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:47   what movie do not like what show us on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49   the dolphin where they do that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:54   you can't trust a dolphin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:55   I yeah I never trusted often they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:57   like sharks swimming without with smiles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:00   um sorry um alright i will go for big we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:06   we beat on interaction and nemesis a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:09   bunch which they totally deserve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:11   other star trek movie that I cannot make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13   it through rewatching that does not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:16   used in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:17   Star Trek the motion power yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:19   real home which I think it's just yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:22   the motionless picture and like our for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:24   there's an eel I I think it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:27   really boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29   it has all these extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:30   special-effects sequences that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32   we're really exciting at the time didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:34   know just they weren't eight no okay i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:37   don't I mean yeah and there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:39   there's a lot of shots of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:40   watching the extended special-effects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:42   sequences and no it's got a minute it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:45   also i mean the saddest thing about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47   is like this was like Star Trek after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49   there was no star trek for 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51   right yeah and this basically ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:52   being Star Trek's the Phantom Menace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:54   because there's so much for the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:57   parts of the original series that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4677">TS</a>]

01:18:00   stripped out of this right i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:03   not fun it's not very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:06   there's some kind of neat cerebral stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:08   with with the plot but even the plot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:09   kind of a retread of they've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11   done this episode of classic track right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:13   and then yeah this movie is more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4693">TS</a>]

01:18:15   two hours long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:16   when guess what there was about as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:18   plot as one episode of classic track so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:21   i just find it really boring and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:24   devastatingly disappointing after 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:26   years without star track it's a bad it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:28   a bad movie I think 2i and I and yet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:31   feel like there's probably a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:32   movie in it and there's a director's cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:34   version that is better than the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:36   that was really about 65 know what order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:40   it's shorter I you know they spent a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   of money on those effects and the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:44   idea was like oh Star Wars got effects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:45   we got this big model we can make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:46   beautiful model shots of the enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   and let's show them all with music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:50   playing and it goes on in fact many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   the shots are reused at the beginning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:54   star trek to the wrath of khan and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:56   are the most boring scenes in Wrath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:57   Khan and they're just tiny clips fri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4737">TS</a>]

01:19:00   mother that is physically executive ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:02   a formula and determine the starship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:04   track the motion picture would be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:06   oh my god and so so I really I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:08   agree with you about that although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:09   feel like there is a better movie in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:11   here then even the director's cut if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:14   there had been more restraint with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:16   editing and reduced it wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:18   been a great movie but it would've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:19   better i mean it you can you can talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:21   about some of the issues with Decker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:24   I Leia and how this is a retread of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:26   changeling episode with Nomad right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:29   just it's not it's not that different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:31   and it's sort of Roddenberry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:33   it is worst to and it is a TV script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:35   actually from their failed reboot in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:38   seventies of Star Trek and so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40   isn't anything they're teaching you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:43   a new script for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:44   hold on a minute let me brush the dust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:46   off of this one is about 30 years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48   well no no in fact that this was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   like they they were going to try to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:52   TV network and it failed and it but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:54   have the script and they had two sets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:56   and I like well then let's just do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:58   movie and they as we've got all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4798">TS</a>]

01:19:59   sets from Genesis to know that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:02   star trek phase to set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   yeah they were gonna make engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:05   transmission and still through and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:08   reused this script and a root reused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:10   actually a couple other scripts for next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:11   generation episode and they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   let's cash you know this the star wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:14   think the kids are india exactly one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16   the things that generally fascinated me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:18   is that the Warner Archive Collection is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:19   put out on DVD some of the various TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:22   pilots of Gene Roddenberry's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:23   totally failed promises to what question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:26   tapes all those are you guys are under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:28   all the horrible shows that were on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:30   like the mid-nineties that were Gene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:31   Roddenberry something Andromeda yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:34   inspired by a note that you're very like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:36   fight club with its grocery list that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:37   actually a drama and drama wasn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:40   wasn't that bad show it was it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:42   have been better as a star trek show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:43   because the whole idea was what if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:46   enterprise got cotton around like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:48   black hole and came out of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:51   thousand years later and the Federation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:52   had fallen apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54   it was kind of a neat idea you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:56   then it was like kevin sorbo and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:58   well you know it was a syndicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:00   weekend TV show can i end this on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:03   positive note about that would they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:05   what do you know about motion picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:07   and I will finish us off by taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:09   negative again but go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:10   oh yeah feat b.o.b retail diverse it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:16   like nemesis but on a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:18   no I i obviously great it's not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:22   doesn't fit in the the star trac feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:24   you know overall i said i do think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:28   is some good in this video I think the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:31   think the Decker Kirk scenes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:34   amazingly tense man I just I feel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:39   when chapters at the top of his game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:42   he's really acting i think is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:44   good i think it sucks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:46   student teaching no no that's not it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:50   not going to talk about his writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:51   right but i really like I think those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:55   scenes in the friction between them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   really intense yeah it's good filming I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4917">TS</a>]

01:22:00   think for a sound design perspective um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:03   of course like the endless shots of cg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:05   MCG like shots going through through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:08   space set to classical music or bad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:12   I think like this scene where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14   time is slowing down is dilating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:17   decorative place the order so they fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:19   over on whether in the wormhole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:21   yeah I think that's a really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:24   example of sound design building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26   attention in the scene in a way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:28   could never ever ever ever ever making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:32   2014 movie and I it's cool i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:35   retro cool in the same way to think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:37   us is sometimes retro-cool it bothers me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:39   because I felt like there was no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:40   for that to even happen other than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:43   they wanted to do something cool with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:44   the warp drive that we haven't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:45   before like oh the warp drive wasn't set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:48   up right so we had a wormhole but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50   we're fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:50   okay yeah my negativity is gonna be I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:54   it look like i said i think there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:56   stuff that can be salvaged out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:57   movie i think that it needed and edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:59   that I'm gonna pick the final frontier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:02   only because everybody has already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:03   picked my number one pick which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:04   insurrection which is really truly bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:07   and nemesis is also not very good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:09   III can't endorse it as the worst only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11   because it is literally the only well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:14   notice the final frontier nemesis of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:16   only star trek movies i've only seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:17   once i saw final frontier in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:21   movie theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:23   it is not good and it's so not good in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:26   so many ways the direction is bad some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:28   of the character interactions ok some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:30   the broad comedy like when Scotty walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32   into that pipe that is so awful all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:36   and the special effects are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:37   spectacularly bad the story is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:38   guy who was supposed to do them and took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:41   their money didn't come through with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43   special effects and so in desperation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   they went to industrial light and magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:46   and said we need we need help and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:49   the release date is this and they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:51   laughed and said ok well here's what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:53   can do we can whip up some some basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:55   stuff from our archive or maybe a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:56   shots really quickly but you gotta give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58   us like the conch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5038">TS</a>]

01:23:59   back for the next star trek movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:01   pay us in advance for that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:03   we'll do both or something this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:05   story and as a result there's some great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:06   shots in Star Trek five of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:08   enterprise like hanging in space at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:11   weird angle that doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:12   and why are they like that and is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:14   just an error and the answer is yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:16   pretty much it is they they've had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:17   special effects and didn't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19   they were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:20   Jason why don't I pour you some of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22   Kentucky whiskey and you tell us how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:23   really what wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:25   what does God need with a spaceship good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:26   question uh question what does God need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:29   with this exam and then there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:31   movie and Sybok I i decry the existence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:34   of Sybok your pain Jason and oh man oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:38   so i am going to my pain i'm gonna gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:41   throw in a vote for structured five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:43   satins finally I remember being a child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:44   watching that and do not feel too bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:47   about watching a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:49   this is not good plot is bad ever had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:53   that feeling yeah I'd like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:54   was great yeah oh yeah i was very dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:57   as a kid my dad took me to see it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:59   theater and he fell asleep and yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:02   when I noticed he was asleep it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04   during like the climax of the movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:06   woke him up and he leaned over too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:08   years like it we should both take a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:11   yeah not although it has a pool table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:17   that is actually pool and they play a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:19   game on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:20   meeting my idea flashes put so hers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:23   burlesque background into Canada oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:24   that's right so that's that one right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:28   what we didn't get to this time is best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:30   and worst captain overrated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:32   underrated episodes and we didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:35   get on to things like alien races which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:38   we also need to do so you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:39   gonna have to happen next we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:41   have to do another one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:42   sometimes haha yeah we will continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:44   best and worst star trek debate club at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:46   another time but this has been pleasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:49   and it's getting late so we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:50   wrap it up here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:52   thank you to my guess Brianna Wu a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:56   pleasure as always even though i am from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbWaEYE/5156">TS</a>]

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