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is dispensing maybe 14-1 the fro the
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uncomfortable 312 September's 2040
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welcome back to the uncomfortable
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podcast I'm your host Jason snail we are
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picking up our our continuing coverage
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of classic animated movies and at some
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point I decided we probably could just
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walk right through the pixar can and as
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we doing sort with the miyazaki cannon
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and i decided to start the beginning
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we've done some episodes since pixar
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movies have been released since we've
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been on the air but we haven't gone back
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to the classic yet we need a pixar
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episode but i wanted to take these films
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apart one by one so we're going to be
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talking about toy story and I'd like to
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introduce the original toy story just
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the first movie because this is not an
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eight hour long podcast it's only like a
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five hour long podcast let me introduce
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the people who are going to be talking
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about Pixar's first feature film with me
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tonight
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david lawrence here is almost always
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hello howdy partner
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it's good to have you here Steve Lutz is
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hi Steve hello Jason how are you this
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evening i am doing just fine
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that's magnificent uh Andy not coach
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Owens us as well hi Andy I'm gonna need
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a minute here I've got a snake in my
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John siracusa is also here hi John wine
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the frogs before we go
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and of course you know him you love him
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you can't live without him it is mr.
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Merlyn man
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hi Marilyn hi Jason good to have you
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here thank you i don't know the part of
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the movie where they say hi Jason but
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references not know sorry
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how do you have you had all right there
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you go thanks what are we doing quotes
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no no i didn't get one replied how about
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this one
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it's too short we need more monkeys we
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need more monkeys there's no more the
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alright toy story uh did it
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where to begin with this it is the first
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real animated cgi you know 3d animated
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feature film and now all of the animated
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films are like this and going back and
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viewing this movie last night which I
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did because I like to be prepared sort
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of prepared for the podcast i was
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actually impressed at the state of
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animation in in 1995 it doesn't feel as
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dated as I thought it would
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it I I think you're absolutely right the
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only thing that's off-putting is you
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when you see cgi graphics of that kind
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you almost feel a game controller in
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your hands and yet of course this was
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absolutely cutting edge of the time
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that's the only thing that disconnect me
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from it i would say everything here is
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good but the people are still very much
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in the uncanny valley and and are
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somewhat horrifying yeah not too not
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baby intent I level horrifying but
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there's still a little disturbing which
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I mean there's there's a good reason why
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almost all the people are seen at leg
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level or from several miles away or we
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get lots of POV shots yeah Andy running
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through the house there's some zombie
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arms on them to they're all kind of
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stiff and we we get lots of close-ups to
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sit because he's supposed to look awful
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but everybody else
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humans don't look terrible they look
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cartoonish and they don't look realistic
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but a lot of the things look like that
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whether the things that they couldn't do
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though are very clear like cloth forget
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they just like their clothing is like
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these and his bed is very well made
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under the heading is not like just a
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close on the people like their shirts
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and shorts are just like cylinders of
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hard plastic like it with weird seems
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and they just can't do that particle
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effects they didn't really like when the
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dump truck comes up in the sandbox that
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is the worst back to this entire movie I
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was shocked when I came on like oh that
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like move or personally i do that shot
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like they just didn't he didn't have
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time i didn't have technology or both to
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do that but I'm what I'm surprised that
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looking at this movie is how good like
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they knew they do certain things well
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and how good those things look like but
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he called what he's faced buzz
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lightyears helmet like all the things
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that you can I can do shiny completely
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hard completely rigid surfaces really
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well with render man and those those
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still look good and they look they look
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good in a way that's timeless the other
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parts don't look good in a way this time
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which is kind of a shame but hey this is
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the very very very first one
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yeah i like to imagine traditional sell
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animators seeing this movie for the very
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first first-time encountering certain
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scenes like that that early POV shot and
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the credits were Andy spinning around in
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his recliner or that the overhead shot
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in Syd's room where he bumps the light
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bulb in the shadows are swinging back
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and forth perfectly i can just see sell
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animators watching that and there
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just bursting into flames did the sight
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gag with the present like where it's
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foreshortened like the graphically for
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shorten it because like they can control
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everything like everything control the
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camera they control the persons hand
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like you try to do that in live-action
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it's more difficult to pull off but
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because the computer graphics give that
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illusion they might even cheated I could
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have made I don't think they cheated but
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they could have like that kind of
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control for that sight gag you don't
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have in live action and in the I mean
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you know I guess the classic story with
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toy story is that they partly chose it
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because this is the stuff as you say
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that they could make it look good
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there's a lot of stuff in this like
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having watched a lot of animation in the
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last three years and returning this to
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this for the first time in a while where
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I was actually i was really surprised
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how creepy some stuff looked and then I
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was really surprised how amazing like
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Rex looks as good as he doesn't I story
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I mean that I think he looks I think Rex
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is probably the most successful
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character in terms of like looking like
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a thing and yeah but I mean a lot of
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stuff you know the story i can look past
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all of this i mean that weird things
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like there's a kind of uniform
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reflection to anything that's reflective
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with things that seem to be kind of
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floating above it in a weird way but I
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can look past all that because of the
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story meaning including Andy's face and
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if you if you know something with the
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backstory this movie one of the
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interesting things is that this was a
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this was very much a collaboration
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between pixar and disney in the sense
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the pics are really wanted to make a
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feature film and disney kind of went
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along and disney was riding high in
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terms of animation at this point so
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there were some creative collaboration
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early on where the pixar guys were not
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super knowledgeable about like feature
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film scripts and things like that it
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sounds like the way and John you've read
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everything that's ever been published
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about pics are so correct me if I'm
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wrong but it sounds to me like they
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ended up building through many
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iterations a pretty solid story
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structure but there was a moment when
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the when the film got kind of shut down
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and they were having lots of issues and
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I was shocked to see in the opening
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credits that joss whedon is actually
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listed first in the screenplay credit
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guess he's the only for is the most
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famous screenwriter and I group we know
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all the other names in the group now but
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then we didn't know it but he hadn't
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done almost anything at that point
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either he punched it up but right well
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he did was apparently according to what
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i read he took a very good structure
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and he tried to flesh out some of the
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dialogue and some of those situations
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and make it into a good sort of like
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screenplay we're like the story was
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actually really good but that he wanted
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a bunch more character moments and some
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funny or dialogue and wine the Frog
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famously is his and I think Rex is his
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creation the fact that there are the
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misfit toys at the end that saved the
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day with something he came up with and
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there are other examples like that but
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it's it's really interesting that this
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is pics are being so good now at a
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computer animation that they could make
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a feature film which had never been done
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before but still with the training
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wheels on and they had good story ideas
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but they were still not like able to go
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and do it all themselves and and so they
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had all this feedback from disney which
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was really skeptical and they brought in
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screenwriters to help them and it's just
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really interesting because then they
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went on to be so confident but here you
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know they did call in people like joss
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whedon was really well known in the
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business at that point of being a
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rewrite man and having him punch this
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this movie up because they were kind of
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at sea with the screenplay
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well they also pixar got bullied into
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the mean woody angle right right i was a
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note they got was like you know they
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just kept-kept tweaking and tweaking it
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to try to satisfy the notes and the mean
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woody I was like at this time i was
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looking for it and if you look for it
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you can see glimpses of the mean would
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be the beginning of this movie like that
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we had he was you're going to be a super
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big jerk the whole time but then it made
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in not sympathetic yeah there's one
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scene where where he's super scary right
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away and the thing i noticed this time
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around it was uh was a day when the
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they're trying the batteries came out of
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the intercom the trying to find out what
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the present is and he goes down there to
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say i'll let me do it because he's
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trying to land positive/negative
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whatever he pushes the other time out of
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the way like hits the other time makes a
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move out of the way to do the batteries
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that and like the one he the expression
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on his face when he's telling the oh go
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ahead buzz fly like they make a very
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very mean I don't know if that's my
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imagination saying that's left over or
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that they had already animated those
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scenes and it's like and due to time
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constraints we couldn't have that will
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fix it by essentially making him more
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sympathetic later in the movie and
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taking out stuff but the mean what he is
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is on display in
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the early parts of your story one I was
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actually surprised watching this back by
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how many of these toys are actually kind
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of a holes
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I mean they turn on way to her top of
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that my god i have a note later on
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that's like they they throw what he I
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mean what he is perceived to have
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basically Chuck buzz out a window to his
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death and but he's been there since
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kindergarten right so it's a few years
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slinky but it's like she doesn't have a
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fundable but yeah they did jump straight
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well he's a Western sheriff you gotta be
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you know that was a good gag like this
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like is inappropriate and kids movie the
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edges you had to draw a nuisance like
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stakes are not you know I don't know
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somehow it works for me like that's the
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accept that that tone is a is
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appropriate for the movie both for kids
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movie and for this movie The mean woody
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well they they they need woody they need
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would be for his leadership but they in
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you know he gets so exasperated with
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everybody because he's in a position of
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some security but they they kind of need
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him to provide that guidance and
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leadership but at the same time they
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want what he has and then of course the
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turnaround is that then woody then loses
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that to somebody else and that's when it
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gets interesting one and if you know the
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whole the idea of the news and
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everything and and serious things like
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you're that young you go to extremes
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when you're playing right you know
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it'sit's bang bang you're dead done
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right and and you know over the course
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of all the toy story movies the toys
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kind of mature to which is interesting
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to me so so going back and seeing things
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like the news here it's like all right I
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can see that you know I've watched that
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with with mine they they're much more
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gentle now that they're older
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where is when they were young it was
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sort of like you know smash the trains
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together Oh Thomas the Tank Engine is
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ok but it's almost like they couldn't
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use the you know what we know now it's
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so easy for us to look back and it's
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incredible to think about the protein
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effort that they went through and the
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pushback they got in the budget cuts and
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the production stoppage all the stuff
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that they were able to put out something
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that's good but I mean this is
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completely new territory and it's funny
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that the one thing I I feel like I
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really noticed this time stuff that's
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just like a slight gag will be a slight
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gag and Chuck Jones cartoon something
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like during strange things when you know
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when and he's playing and Buzz shoots
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woody and he slaps him over and like
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knocks him over what what we what they
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couldn't know that we know today is this
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characters can feel incredibly real to
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us now we feel that violence because now
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we've seen now we've grown with those
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characters and stuff but at the same
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time I think at the time it was it was a
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cartoon right and it was an extremely
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well-done cartoon but i don't think they
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could have known how far that process
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would come with great storytelling great
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animation to make us get to the point
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where like you really feel like that
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guy's Pendragon in this movie you know
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what I mean where those relationships
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really do seem real and way beyond like
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wile e coyote i think that what they
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were getting at was that the violence of
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young boys play which i think is
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accurately represented by doing laser go
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laser gun and he smacks woody to the
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side because that's that's how kids
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playing like I accepted that without the
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context of toy story 2 and 3 just seeing
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toy story one you accept that because
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it's like all right when the toys are
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being played with
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they act like toys and they get the
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treatment of toys and you don't get the
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impression that would he is hurt by
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being smacked by the way you get the
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impression that he wants to participate
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in the imaginative play this boy that's
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just part of it like when in light of
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that in light of the subsequent movies
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they told they they told that down
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thanks things have come around so much
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that by the third movie that in fact
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they're living in fear of the
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preschoolers because the preschoolers
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are treating basically like Andy treated
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wood in the first movie like old rehired
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toys then they would say they've grown
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up and have not been had been beaten to
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death anymore like i said the same gag
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in this movie like ages 3 and up says
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right in my box he doesn't want to be
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played with by the younger people i like
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you know the actually that that's I've
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got my notes here in chronological order
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but that brings up something that is
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right at the beginning of the movie that
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notice is the first time we see the toys
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we see them in the context of being toys
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we see Andy playing with them he's got
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his whole fantasy adventure with woody
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is the sheriff and and mr. Potato Head
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as the as the 1i bart or whatever he is
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where he pops the eye off at and so I
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think that's really a great choice that
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the first time we see these characters
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they are in the context of being toys
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and and and he plays with them we see
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lots of shots i noticed lots of shots
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where it's just his arm coming in right
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let's not animate the kid as much as we
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can and then he says see you later woody
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he leaves and that's the moment when
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they when they come alive and I think
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that's a really interesting choice like
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look we need to establish these choices
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being toys that are played with their
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you know this is their job essentially
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they're not like magical creatures that
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live in this boy's room their toys who
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come alive when he's not around right
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when it feels like they do that to sort
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of you know to eat you get used to the
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toys that you recognize like Potato Head
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& and all that but but it sort of eases
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you into going oh this is woody and he's
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also a toy in this universe and they all
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know him too he's famous and you don't
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know what you're going to know that
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opening sequence reminds me of like
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watching that again i was impressed all
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over again because computer animation
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even have pictures on computer animation
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had a certain like sort of camera work
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style where it was a lot of static shots
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even things of you know like even a
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little little buddy called a little
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light what's called the Illuma looks
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alamo jr. look so luxe ok whatever the
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short that he was in chasing the ball
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around like it a lot of like the cameras
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pullbacks kind of a wide you see what's
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going on or whatever at the beginning of
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toy story is cinematic the camera moves
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there are close-ups there are lots of
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pee like it's it's active it is it is
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like it is like a real lot like instead
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of like oh here is I'm going to show you
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a rendered cube and the cameras gonna be
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entirely stationary the whole time maybe
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a light will move like it immediately
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dissuades you of any notion this is
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going to look like demos from siggraph
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right it's going this is going to be a
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and that opening sequence of the playing
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is really tight like it's come together
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quickly out it's fun it's interesting in
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the camera moves like it is a great way
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to pull people into this movie like if
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if there was any fear like oh well
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people go to watch visit like this is my
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big thing with toy stores like a
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computer animated movie i'm so excited
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exist like when people go to watch it
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you're ring your fingers you wring your
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hands like oh I don't know if like if
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they'll just think it's kind of too you
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know within 30 seconds the audience has
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forgotten the computers have anything to
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do with this movie because it is
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familiar to them and I think it's done
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in a way like a lot of the shots they
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did the reason they look so amazing it's
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because they have these sort of the the
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truth visual truthfulness of live action
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but with the sort of visual style of
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animation and that it you wouldn't do
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all these dramatic camera moves in in
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cell animation because it's very
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difficult to duels perspective changes
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correctly and deal with all the
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different planes of motion and not make
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it look like things sliding over here
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it's really difficult to do you could do
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a live-action fine
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this is a weird combination of both of
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them that is like comforting instead of
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been looking Ali into both I feel like
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it's comfort from two different levels
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come from the cartoon world where you
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accept like the colors and textures and
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everything and comfort from the
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live-action world and watching it again
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despite all like the not-so-great
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textures on things in the limitations of
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the rendering and everything just the
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the dynamics of the opening scene the
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content and continue to rest of the
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movie we are again it's timeless it
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really pulls you in and makes you accept
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this as a movie first and as a computer
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exercise second
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yeah it's I I think that's a great point
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about them being able to bring to bear a
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century almost of film language
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live-action film language that a lot of
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animated movies could basically not do
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or had to do very little of and cheat i
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and the Beast where they did the 3d
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animation spin in the dance you know it
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over in the ballroom right and at that
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moment ago what am I seeing here right
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because this is a move from another kind
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of movie and and yeah the the computer
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animation in that first scene they are
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saying look we're shooting this like a
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movie this is not going to be like the
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other kind of animate what you think the
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language of animation is this is going
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to be the language of
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a regular movie where they have cameras
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and they move them around and they have
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different lenses like they use different
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yak virtual different virtual lenses for
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it when you're looking through the
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binoculars is different shot they have
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had the zoom zoom out through the window
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and then back in they have the smash
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zoom in on the people when you know they
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so he's at it again he kicks the the car
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off the end like that the that aspect of
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it was novel there's a little bit of
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lens flare early on are actually late
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when the when when the magnifying
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reflecting yeah yeah
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pencil with a really neat eraser to
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lounging around pants that they call
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have bomber jacket style elastic cuffs
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until the pants are actually insanely
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comfortable and great way better than
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alternatives like athletic shorts this
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need is they provide a level of curation
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lounge around and here's a Henley to put
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these monthly selections that they make
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their out there actively finding
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i I've got a I've got a really bizarre
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point that I want to make because I'm
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the host and I get to make this is our
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point at the very first time we see them
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playing the the checkerboard write the
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check report comes out and what he's not
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he's too busy indicator the checkers
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move a little
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yeah but here's the bizarre thing that
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the checkerboard is set up with the the
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seam the fold of the checkerboard going
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like right down the middle between the
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players who does that who does it does
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is it is it just me who uses that is
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like the border from my side and your
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side every time later in the movie
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that's how the checkerboard is laid down
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but in that first scene it's going down
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the middle
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it's weird isn't it says it doesn't
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allow you to flip the checkerboard over
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when you get angry because that's the
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point is that slinky dog setup that
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bored i love the is arguable that make
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you imagine what it will be
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what it must be like to try and animate
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that that must have been so crazy thing
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that really grabbed me this time
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watching it watch it one and a half
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times today partly with my kid who had
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watched in awhile i'm amazed at like you
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know like i say i feel like i can
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overlook so much stuff about you know a
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lot of its super creepy but like how
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quickly they characterize all the toys
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like you get like all of those
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characters was just so elegantly like in
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the opening set up after you know the
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kind of move in on woody on the bed and
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he opened his eyes he starts looking
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around us all is clear and and like all
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of that the tentative movement of the RC
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car coming out of the closet like it's
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just amazing in that space if I don't
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know what probably 90 seconds
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how many how many toys from our
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childhood get a character that we can
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understand in about a minute
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you obviously you get that that's you
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know I don rickles in the hockey puck
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joke and everything but I thought it was
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it's just so well
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done it like you get this collection of
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probably i would guess probably at least
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a dozen characters you get them that
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fast and it sets the tone so quickly
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that like this is what we can expect
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they try to do that in live-action
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movies all the time like you can see you
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can see the wire as you can see the
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strings happening like where there's an
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ensemble movie and they have to have the
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opening scene here's the wisecracking
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friend right and like I think the main
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difference is not so much in the skill
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of introducing because autumn always
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know they need to do that we need to get
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you like this is the guy who's timid
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this is the aggressive jerk guy this is
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the wise ass like you gotta do all that
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stuff right
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the difference is that the characters in
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this movie are better than the normal
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like ensemble characters and like
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they're more interesting you know that
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maybe it's because they're dinosaurs
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like maybe that as an angle you can't do
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like you've got a mr. Potato Head with
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the particular you know it like there is
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a combination of which toy they are and
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which address they have and whether
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those two things measure don't mesh or
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you know or whatever but I think they're
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that they're just good characters night
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so they're good introducing them and
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when I do introduce them they're all
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like likable or relatable or funny or
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you know all three and that generally
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that you can understand their their
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motivation very quickly you understand
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what is that they want you understand
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that which you know i mean that's such
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an obvious thing people talk about you
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understand that Rex wants to be a scary
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dinosaur you know it's just a I think
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that's that that's a harder trick then
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it looks like given the resources and
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constraints that they had I think it's
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great that they pulled it off and
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address sweden television show the whole
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thing is like the humor if it shows is
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based on I know that character and when
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that character says something it's
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because I know what that character is
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like that the thing they said it's funny
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not just because someone said if you
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just insert an extra set line it's not
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funny it's funny because I know what
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this character is like so all the jokes
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and toy story rely on you establishing
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what these characters are liking and
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what they want out of you know their
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life and then when they say a particular
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line it's not just that you can't
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arbitrarily assign the jokes to the
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things and so very quickly they have to
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get you up to like season 3 of joss
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whedon television show where you're like
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you know the characters and the lines r
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RS are matched set and not just
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arbitrary you have to buy into the
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characters of the joke dork but there it
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is a Gilbert and Sullivan sort of
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construction though where you have the
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for the two pairs of leads but then you
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also have the chorus
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members were their members of these the
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of the this toy team are people who talk
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with one collective voice about hey
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we're really really fascinated by this
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really cool new toy
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hey now we're going to turn on the
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person that we that usually used to
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think of as our leader now we're going
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to collectively think of this character
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a different way again and they put are
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they dump all of the new wants into
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those two leads and that was the thing
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that really impressed me the most about
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the characterization hear that they were
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maybe this is part of the leftover of
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having spent the the screenwriters
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having spent so many years developing
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this mean-spirited woody and then
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realizing that was the wrong way to go
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but still knowing that wasn't it fun to
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have this cowboy character that really
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could be a jerk and I really do think
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they kind of made that part of the stew
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of what his character of saying that he
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could be this guy if things started to
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go really really bad form and that a lot
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of the reason why he's such a kind
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person he's got the sunny disposition is
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because he is on top of the world
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nothing has ever tried to disrupt this
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pleasant experience that he has as
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somebody who is completely in control of
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his own destiny and as soon as you throw
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in that random feature in there where no
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he might have to actually listen to
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other people for a change and realizing
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that the people who quote follow him on
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quote aren't necessarily following him
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because of his leadership either
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that's when you start to see
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mean-spirited woody kind of come through
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and for those moments you really wonder
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yes he did know he didn't read push push
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buzz but boy was he thinking about it
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was his mind thinking that all would be
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so easy to do it and there are people
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looking at me right now could i get away
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with it
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that's what really impressed me the
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first time I saw this movie what I like
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about that that decision is it's it's
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woody making a bad decision but not me
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not a super evil decision what he's
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trying to you can fix it right he wants
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to go to the pizza planet with with andy
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so he wants to knock buzz behind the bed
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so that he's temporarily lost just
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enough time that and he brings him to
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pizza planet but then it goes all wrong
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and he ends up being responsible for
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buzz being you know out the bushes and
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and so it's a language
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kind of Justice they would have meted
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out he succeeded it just doing that
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instead of knocking about the window it
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would have been something slightly less
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awful than lynching maybe like you know
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beating him with mr. potato head i think
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they would have thrown all over there
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are all of their support behind buzz is
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the new leader and exactly we want a lot
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of making it look like an accident
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though I didn't push from behind you
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just want to fall in that crevice if he
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had succeeded in yes then what he would
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have been on the path toward ultimate
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evil and he would have ended up being
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the dictator of the room and and and he
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would hear it wasn't dictated him like
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that was it well position the beginning
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was that he considered himself smarter
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than all the other toys but practically
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speaking he probably was he was he was
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sort of condescending to all the other
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toes he was like a magnanimous leader
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but as long as you want everyone
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acknowledges that I'm the best I'm the
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smartest everyone serves my needs does
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what i want what i wanted and slinky was
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kind of like his little toady who was
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like yes what do you do whatever you
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want right and the the way that we came
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to know later doesn't exist in this
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movie until the end were to presume like
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this is this is his ark for this movie
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and in a lot of ways you would feel like
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most important coy and share Andy with
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straightforward arc and for there to be
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a and an interesting RQ can't start off
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of those you know inconvenient
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coincidences and like misunderstandings
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that he was always a nice guy the whole
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time was just a misunderstanding boy
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darn it when bad things happen to good
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people he has to start off as actually
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not that great for him to get somewhere
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he wasn't exactly dictator though this
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really was a situation where everybody
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who's following him have pretty much
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abdicated their own responsibility for
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their own destinies they're not they
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don't seek leadership they're very very
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happy to have someone else do the share
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unformed exactly is the sheriff and so
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he's the sheriff of the room full of the
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toys when you have to assume that a
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certain percentage of them have
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a seething resentment for him as well
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toys potato has man was Andy's favorite
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at some point we can get something
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of dramas that could be written about
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the incident the toilet is that brief
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preschool period when when potato head
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woody and now he's just the the knockoff
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villain and in the the woody story right
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one he's playing the bad guy and what
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he's always the good guy and what is so
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great and there's jealousy there i just
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wanted to say and I know this is an
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unpopular opinion but I do not like the
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randy newman songs
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okay so I'm gonna I'm gonna actually
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that's where I was that's where I was
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headed after one topic but let's talk
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about it now I think his score is very
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very good i should say that there are
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three songs in this movie and I wanted
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to talk about them because we've got
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strength we've got you've got a friend
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in me we've got strange things and then
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we've got I will go sailing no more
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right I'm like that and and I'm
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fascinated by this because to me this is
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the clearest example of the and maybe
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i'm wrong but but I read it as a clear
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example of the the creative tension
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between pixar and disney and between
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what an animated movie is supposed to do
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and what pixar wants to do because i
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feel like all of the jeffrey katzenberg
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successful disney animated film revivals
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were musicals that people singing songs
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and so you get the sense that disney was
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like you gotta have songs
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hey Randy Newman use him he's good you
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gotta have some stick some songs in
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there and they're like I don't know and
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so they they're in the movie but they're
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not sung by characters they're just sung
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by Randy Newman in the movie I might
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actually like them better if they were
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sung by somebody other than Randy new
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one and and two of them and two of them
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are over
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I mean that strange things song that is
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an eighties style Phil montage if I have
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ever seen one again it and it's just
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it's a little weird it's a little almost
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like uncanny valley for movie music
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where it's like they wanted it to be a
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cat Sandberg you know Disney
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musical and pixar was like well we'll
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put songs in it but that's it and and I
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find it's not I i think i think it's not
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one of the strongest parts of this movie
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I I it they'll bug me so much and I
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actually think that when we talked about
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Torri toy story 2 that the the one song
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in there is incredibly effective but
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here it's like well we gotta run song
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somewhere so we'll do a little comic
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montage and run run song with that
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didn't you love that my time so I got it
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yeah that's when the guys my bed and its
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benefits buzz lightyear sheets that is
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awesome it would be a better montage
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without randy newman and singing that he
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is i just ate a bunch of skittles and I
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have a sugar bubble in the back I don't
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think Randy Newman like it
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in this context like I think this is
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this is the movie where Randy Newman
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fits like I don't accept random songs in
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the movie they already where he fits the
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best but I don't think he fits
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I've always had the same complaint about
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this forever he wrote one song and use
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the exact same song in three different
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movies because you got you got a friend
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in me you've gotta i love to see you
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smile from Parenthood and then he gave
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if I didn't have you from monster
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monsters inc I they're the exact same
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song strange strange things you can play
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against I love LA yeah you got a GED
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mountaintop acosto randy newman you know
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3-pack you got a friend in me doesn't
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even have a real melody for the verses
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for crying out loud
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some of the guys might be a little bit
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smarter and cooler and taller than I do
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maybe I guess not sure i'll get back to
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you on that
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ready Newman has like a mr. Potato Head
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song where it's the same body just keeps
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like swapping out different eyes and
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hats on to it and that doesn't bother
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with pot that you can change paul and
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storm do a whole thing of you know Randy
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Newman's not only lord of the rings
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that's the same in the melody that is
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exactly the same in all of their randy
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newman songs but they do Randy Newman
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song for all these different movies and
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he's so brilliant 2i however i read a
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blog post about this like I think after
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the set the second time he used that
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song say that she's mean and also all
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the music that he's right for these
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movies is pressed the same he's just
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like that my most interesting guy and
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everybody who look who got into randy
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newman during the seventies when
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made all these brilliant albums at like
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how to cut it had a go at me and I've
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had realized oh ok i didn't realize that
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he done something before and around
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short people because all I knew is this
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again this mr. Potato Head solid keep
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running and of course it was exactly
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like all of this stuff
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no no it said you needed a couple songs
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when the muppet show he he's easy i
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can't remember the name of the album but
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he did he did a real recorded his two
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most famous albums from the seventies
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with like new orchestrations and it's
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like wow why didn't you just like light
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of Pixar and hope they hadn't heard this
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album you recorded in 1975 and put that
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in the movie if you if you're going to
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laze your way out of this laser with a
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great song I don't think I don't think I
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can blame randy newman here I think that
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Randy Newman has a bunch of different
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cells i like i like randy newman but I
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feel like what happened here was he got
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direction to do that little you know
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gentle ragtime anything you do that
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hockey ragtime Orleans that New Orleans
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yeah right he grew up in New Orleans and
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do that that's what we want we want that
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it's like right under the toys that take
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over your spot on the bed sometimes
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yeah i guess with dead lelu rigged oh I
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lived he in the whole of what was the
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third song so the first one is you've
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got a friend in me I will go sailing
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when I was a little more christ-like
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very good song but if he's really way he
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sings it makes my ears bleed
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hey I could drop the third song because
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i don't want to give up the first one
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because it makes sense in the context of
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the movie even though it's silly and
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slight right
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the second 1i love that montage and you
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need music to go behind a montage and
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i'm using is the third 1i could take
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your leave I love 11 eighties montage
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with that is that that is the Sarah
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McLachlan song from toy story 2 which
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they wisely had randy newman not saying
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right and that makes sense in the
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context that movie because it's supposed
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to be about Jesse right but you can
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understand why that got left behind yes
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but but i think actually head I will go
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sailing no more been sung by somebody
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with a little more
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emo residential facility i think it
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would have worked very well but in this
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case it's not so much that ran composers
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talking and shouting but there is there
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is scoring to the movie in the beginning
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like there's that the Toy Story music
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like the instrumental like but and then
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everybody would you leave us those songs
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work was instrumental music is its
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frequently the same motifs and themes
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from the pop songs pop up in the score
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and they work really nicely there so I
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like the work you did with the score
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I just the pop songs do not work at all
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for me would have been happier with that
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uncomfortable so what i wanted to
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mention also in the context of the
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especially the strange things montage
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montage gotta have a montage there
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should be more montages some so it's
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it's there's this there's the sequence
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in in quick succession where where he
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trappings of buzz and the Western stuff
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of woody and I when you look at that
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just like all of a sudden woody feels
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cold because Western as a genre feels
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cold and and outmoded and maybe a little
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kid and he suddenly this new sci-fi
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stuff is really exciting and fun and and
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not just that buzz is new it's like
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everything buzz represents in the
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universe and lasers and spaceships and
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stuff like that as opposed to the you
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know dem old cowboy sherrif and and and
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the music is playing while that's
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happening and i really i really liked
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how it's it's not just that it's this
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it's the whole it's like one sean were
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coming in and elbowing the other one out
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and saying your old forget like and like
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play with toys i not only was it a very
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efficient bit of storytelling you know
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to show his to show
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first of all how buzz is bonding with
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all the new people showing Rex how to
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roar and stuff like that right also
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obviously like the moment when he runs
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in the closet with his woody jammies and
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then runs out with his wonderful
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homemade was like your car
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that I I think that's extremely well
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done because it gets to the
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capriciousness of little kids like a
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little kid is going to change their
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preferences like like so fast you you
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would even you wouldn't believe that
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would he ever meant anything
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well although having having had kids
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when I first saw this movie I didn't
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have kids and having had kids now and
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watching and i'm fascinated by the fact
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that i turned my wife last night while
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we were watching this and I said but you
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know woody what he's been around with
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that kid for a long time
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buzz is a a cheap plastic space toy and
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he's gonna get played with for like two
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weeks and then he's gonna like his wings
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are going to snap off and he's never
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gonna get played with it until they had
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accidentally removed the battery that we
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exactly when I don't know why you're so
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easily the hotel and rental until the
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incident until the remote control the
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living room goes dead and the dad says
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where do we have double a batteries ok
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i'll ever knows I have to make one point
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what's sad yeah oh oh there's a lot of
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thought on this
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the the unspoken absence of a dad the
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is what he has no gun
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we're so god Randy and he has no dad
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both not reference both not important
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other than that matchstick fitting for
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the parallels been a lot of scholarship
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on this I'm sure also the fact that he's
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wearing Jesse's hat so what he has no
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gun i think it's obvious because they
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don't want him to be a toy that pulls
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out a gun right there constantly all the
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kids would ever do is make the gun going
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too well and issue any toy it's got one
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of those little tiny things like that
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you totally lose that right that had
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been so lost by now right that would not
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unless it was so do his head or
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something and but the lack of the dad i
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think is a nice nod to you know to the
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reality of families in America
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essentially like that that other people
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don't have that before i read the
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scholarship I had always assumed his dad
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had died and in my in my to quote Erica
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my in my headcanon yeah I always I
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always assumed his dad died and it was
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his dad's toy like these are some meat
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yeah alright well that will if we assume
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that dad has has died i think they went
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out for cigarettes and never came out
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and we look at Molly who is maybe what
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like six months old dad is fairly
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recently gone so I i yes kids running
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around last I some he's with that maybe
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with it
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weekends with them with other toys dad
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doesn't even show up for Christmas
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the moving feels like a divorce but I
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think well I don't get a scholarship
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that's that's headcanon but a but but
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there's there's definitely there's
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there's there's always information and
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getting ahead of myself as I i I'm a
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bigger fan of 2 and 3 by sonu so what I
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what I will say that what we're watching
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it uh uh my wife said get-go single mom
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moving to a nice big house right because
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they move the end up moving to a much
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bigger house with which they've got a
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they got a new baby and currently seems
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pretty channel the Son and the daughter
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are sharing the room right i think maybe
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mom has polished off dad and the be
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exactly insurance money which exactly
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which is why she's riding in the front
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seat in a front-facing child's area in
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the backyard and they have to go to a
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new house that's a different time so we
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want to get the cat talking aspect of
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this guy's but what do you enjoy what
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are you talking about
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alright why was when Buzz arrives on the
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why does he follow the toy rules as in
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going limp when Andy is that ok i have
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that one in my notes too and I don't
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know that that why doesn't climb up with
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me and he's like it basically about that
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means like there is that there is a
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there is the world of the toys but then
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there is like in a larger force that
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like and they break it at the end of
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this movie when haha moving as a thing
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right like but that is like a large
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directly a law of the universe that even
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though buzz does not think he's a toy he
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cannot help but behave like a toy in the
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presence of humans all the way up to the
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point of like going back to previous
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position and flopping down but they
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don't show him flopping a lot but he
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does do that and it's weird that was so
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they're such a big mistake
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except for when he decides to climb into
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the passenger seat of the pizza truck
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and then even buckle himself and don't
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exposes himself to the driver or I can
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click there is little doesn't matter i'm
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going to add to that point you know that
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that was a consistent mistake in the
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first movie they didn't they didn't
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really know the universe they're
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creating they felt as though they had a
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spell some things out and they needed to
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put some rules into this universe to
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explain why no one has ever discovered
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that the toys are actually live without
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looking at them they admit they did as
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such so much of a better job in two and
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three because i think that they sort of
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adopted the calvin and hobbes rules or
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they are refer another analogy that the
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sixth sense rules
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we're so long as you just simply
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never have a situation occur in which
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someone would notice that these toys are
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alive long as you never see notice that
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Bruce Willis is actually a goes you can
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have these ridiculous you can have these
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people do whatever you need them to do
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without having to call attention to a
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wedding but you know that he has to be
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here at this point but he can't do this
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at this point which is things that that
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nobody's gonna be interested in this is
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not a documentary on how the rules of
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the toys works so maybe the toys don't
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talk at all and this is just a
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presentation
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the dad is having as he believes out on
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the floor and recover they have I think
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it's cleverly woven into this and the
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kids never know where the heck their
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toys are like they have no idea where
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they are they they would notice a baby
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monitor it so we don't see a baby
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monitor by the bed like the places toys
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are in our house and how a track that
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children have of these toys like the
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fact that she says I mom but they were
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in the car mom like mom totally believes
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it's always like if you're going to be
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like animated inanimate objects that
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move on their own children's toys are
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the ones to be because no one's gonna
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ever find it suspicious for those things
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no no absolutely true and I my personal
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interpretation of this or headcanon if
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you like is my interpretation is that
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the toys know the rules like baby
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innately know the rules and they can be
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overwritten and although i find that
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seemed kind of problematic because of
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that the reasons we've said but as you
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might think that he's not a not a toy
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but he still is following the rules of
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toys all that the obvious explanation to
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me that is doesn't fit here is that it's
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a Weeping Angels types of direction
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we're basically if if somebody if
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there's not a person there who can see
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you you have the ability to move and
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talk and and have meanings that's red
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light green light for those of you don't
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speak doctor whom i'm trying to think of
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analogy for people who are 5,000 good
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good job good job state red light green
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light don't think it's play that anymore
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good job you identified that this doctor
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who are not Star Trek well I know my
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yeah good job well done that was at
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babylon 5's dr. Jo yeah should we um I
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want to talk about Sid let's see we we
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get roughly as this scott focus we get a
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scut Farkus we get our who has a dad we
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get our view of said I'd like to defense
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I was going to die I said sit is the is
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the monster in this movie but when you
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look at him and again this may be
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something about 20 years later and me
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being a parent I look at this I'm like
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you know sit is a monster to toys but
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cities just a kid he's just a perfectly
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and Mary industrious using MacGyver in
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the man yeah absolutely that's exciting
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that's exactly my point c because you
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know this other boy is simply a tool of
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the toy companies and market their
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marketing firms city saying you know
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what I'm not going to take these
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storylines I'm being handed to i'm going
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to create my own characters and my own
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stories and also i'm going to learn the
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makes the the movie working again I
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don't know I'm thinking in particular in
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Andy's room with introducing the
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characters there's so much to the sound
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design in this that I think really
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really still works just dumb stuff like
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when he's talking on the microphone and
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he's talking close and it's more
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amplified is further ways not amplified
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they really give you a sense of space in
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the room with the sound everybody's got
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their own sounds
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i think that's that's one of those
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things where unless you're watching
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closely you might not notice how much of
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the visual images sold by the sounds but
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if if you close your eyes while you're
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watching it you can still pretty much
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follow where things are spatially which
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that mean that is just nice sound work
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yeah I at the gas station I love the
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design of the Dinoco station by the way
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it is beautiful this is a this is a
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beautiful set as a foreshadowing of
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Lassiter's cars right here sure is
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degree that classic-looking gas station
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i love the love the dyno co with the
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logo i love that it's a starry night and
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the sun's going down it's not it's not
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dark yet it's not quite there yet but
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the stars are coming out
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ya like like 730 or eight like it's
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getting dark
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and this is the first time we've really
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been like out in the wide-open is a very
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different environment from what we've
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seen up till now and it's kind of
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stunning and you're viewing it sort of
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from toy level right and that is really
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interesting to this just looks it looks
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beautiful and then what we see here is
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essentially this is one of those great
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moments where you see the buzz is his
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backstory is like a weird amalgam of
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Star Trek and Star Wars because although
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he comes from the Space Patrol and all
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those things he essentially is r2d2 he
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has the Death Star plans and is trying
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to get them back to the Federation and
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there's something that he's got the
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single way of destroying the the
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starship that can that will destroy a
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planet which after he unspools this
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entire plot summary of Star Wars what
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his response is simply you are a toy
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yeah but they do that joke for the whole
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constantly been telling that buzz a toy
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and it builds that scene and like you
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would I remember thinking that like it
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was a little bit of stunt casting with
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like Tom Hanks and what's-his-name from
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tim allen temper tantrum improvement but
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at this point like Tom Hanks is woody
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and and Tim Allen is Buzz and it's not
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like oh they got that guy from that
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popular TV show because it kind of
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sounds like his kind of heat like when
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he's there and does the voice is looking
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off the distance I i know it's only
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weakness and you know you are right or
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they're perfect for like that you could
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put those two voices on an odd couple
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type show and then the seventies it
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would be fine
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well i mean it's it's it's like it's
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pretty subtle that like it's not just
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that you know if you ended up in some
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kind of you know strange planet he
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didn't know what was going on you know
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what you got a question but with buzz
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that it's just a question he still buzz
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lightyear it's just hit questioning like
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the the way that a bed feels to walk on
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right it'sit's so encapsulated character
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and you know what is getting more and
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even even when they're having a very
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first one of the very first conversation
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we're standing on the bed and it sounds
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like they're having two different
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conversations where would you like a
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just want to tell you a little bit about
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how things work here and was adamantly
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refuses to move off the idea that that
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he's a space guy like down to that great
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POV shot like from inside of the helmet
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when you can hear him breathing you can
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see his reflection in it it's a result
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red dot on Woody's forehead
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number looks like this like that like
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with the completely in a sexually take
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away the way that crab walks in a circle
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around with that that was there two or
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three shots specifically that think of
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them was still hold up today one is that
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crab walk the other one is when
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crab walk the other one is when
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what he at the absolute end of his rope
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for frustration is like does almost like
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a half Kermit the Frog you
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hay wagon be totally Kermit's not even
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halfway
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yeah and then and it's all about to Mel
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and I I think you five years later he
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was a galaxy quest and i am watching
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galaxy quest now it's like I this very
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strange like it's buzz lightyear it
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happens but it's a live-action buzz
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lightyear he's doing the same thing but
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uh your toy is almost immediately
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responded to by the way with one of the
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great lines and Miffy because you are a
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sad strange little man and he says
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farewell and flashes the Vulcan salute
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star trek you have my pity but the
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amazing thing about buzz is that he
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liked so this movie he realizes a toy as
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the great summer is peeling off the
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sticker and everything like you know if
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this is that's his ark in subsequent
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movies he's still kind of that same yep
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you know sorry like what is your
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personality right exactly did they
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didn't take that away from him that that
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underneath it all he's still buzz
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lightyear even though he recognized that
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he's one of many toys it was like that's
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his character and it makes you wonder if
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maybe does he have some form of mental
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illness i'll be a temporary at the
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beginning of the year he is delusional
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isn't like the Iron Giant and he's
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actually a gun
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deep down but that that's also one of
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the most well they're there are a couple
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of kind of semi heartbreaking moments in
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there and then there is that were
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beautifully animated moment where he
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realizes that 02 seconds ago I was a
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space commander who had the entire
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galaxy at my feet in a lifetime an
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adventure behind me and now I realize
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I'm just a cheap punk of plastic of
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which there are thousands and thousands
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the entire world now flying toy bummer
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not my rules not flying toy that little
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existential crisis he has that's
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actually kinda hard to watch yeah yeah
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it is nice everybody's peeling that
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sticker off its like that's brutal
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he's looking at the sticker flapping
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around crumple crumple throws and that
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hurts me as somebody who's just a little
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obsessive-compulsive like no don't do
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that what did come on that's what your
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lawyer is they meant that you need a guy
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from Jerry's game to come and fix them
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if it was put on a little sideways i
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would understand it but that thing was
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perfectly centered ago what one more
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quick thing in passing to superfast
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about Dinoco
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this is one of the things like and john
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gruber and I have obsessed about this in
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the past we talked about how in toy
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story 3 when when Andy gets in the car
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and put on the seat belt
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it's like the seatbelt seatbelt you've
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ever seen in your life and this one okay
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they did not have to put so much detail
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into the undercarriage of a truck right
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that like when they're moving and you
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get that kind of parallax effect of how
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it's moving it's just you know every bit
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of this you know like they said in the
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documentaries about this in animation
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nothing accidentally appears an
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animation somebody had to sweat every
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second of that and and I really feel
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like you know it's it's it's 19 years
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old and you really still feel like these
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are toys talking under a truck and it
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completely works I crappy yeah beat-up
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pickup truck from the pizza planet to
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which we I wish I believe reappears in
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numerous in cars pixar movies and all
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the movies i think the real and it's
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engraved for crying out loud they put it
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everywhere the yo truck amazing
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ok off to the pizza planet which is the
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perfect place for buzz pizza planet is
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awesome by the way why has nobody opened
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a real pizza planet
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I don't know it's way better than chuck
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e cheese they have is not a necessity
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Studios in Florida I don't think those
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robots by the doors or within fire codes
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though maybe not the vomiting alien
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though is that it's just a good idea
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it's out your drinking together and
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whack and Liam's back an alien such a
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great joke again for the for the parent
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back in daily i know we notice that this
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time with a guy on a table with the
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aliens popping out popping out of his
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chest another not exactly body rated
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yeah mmm yeah but it goes by it's the
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kids aren't even going to get a joke
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like that i like this and and if this is
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a great moment between woody and buzz
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where Woody is manipulating buzz because
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he knows buzz loves this stuff and and
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so he's like a buzz go over here we have
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found a spaceship here's a spaceport
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right and and and Buzz just goes along
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with it and and which is kind of
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adorable hyperactive hyperdrive or body
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shows that he doesn't even know the
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terminology know the spacebook but then
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but it backfires when Buzz sees a he
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tells him to wait here and Buzz sees the
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the claw machine rocket and decides to
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dive into the decline machine which
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leads to one of my
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favorite things in this entire movie
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which is the little green squeaky aliens
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and working i look a little rough to
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your ass they do although they are I I
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imagine they're the cheapest possible
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tuyo right that they don't sing like the
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rendering like we have one shot you have
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with someone of their ears is really
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close to the camera in the seam between
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the internet is not good like is the and
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you think they would be good at that one
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like sometimes like shots like that one
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got away from them like they just didn't
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have enough time to rerender and it's
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just like it is what it is
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every appearance is a crowd scene though
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so that's that's gotta be a difficult
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down there but like I when I first saw
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this movie like that I i remember those
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guys making as big an impression on me
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as Woody and Buzz absolutely no they
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were just so funny and so adorable and
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had so many memorable lines and and like
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the thing is it pulled you into the
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world of like what is the experience for
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other toys not all toys are owned by
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getting their room and get played with
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these toys have lived in this little
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bubble and their entire world is defined
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by the thing that's above them and they
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have no idea what like they're like buzz
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in some respects or they just sort of
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rationalize their world and you know
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like well I guess someone pulls the Sun
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across the sky with a chariot every day
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and the chosen one their cargo called
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base is a very subversive thing in that
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way because they have created an entire
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worldview based on their placement in
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the claw machine and to the point where
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they worship the claw it moves i go on
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to a better place my friends and and
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that's followed up when they're going to
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sit house where he says nirvana is
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coming right i mean he is in he's headed
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for the afterlife they have created an
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entire religion almost wanna know yet
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another possibility for the grad student
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thesis that Jay there the aliens are the
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exact same position as buzz lightly and
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let your they are fresh from packaging
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they have not experienced life with an
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owner yet and is somehow it is the power
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of the love granted upon them by a child
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that gives them that self-awareness I
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realized oh I'm out I'm actually i'm not
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actually a Liam as I've been molded i'm
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actually a toy and there's my reality
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okay and that's the moment where the dog
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tears you into little pieces
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can I just say that for the the the
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strength of that claw is massively
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exaggerated you see how it held onto it
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like that clock cannot hold onto a
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cotton ball this is the most poorly
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tuned crane game i have ever seen claw
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has got to have epoxy on it or something
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I feel like I couldn't pull up buzz
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lightyear with my fingertips from that
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position and yet the cloth the same
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cloth will drop a cotton ball that's not
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enough grass and I guess the whole point
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of the claw machine there is no strength
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in the closet never picks up anything
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and grab some of the most impossible
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wipe off they are going to lose millions
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of dollars on that thing in fact that's
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probably why Pizza Planet never expanded
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on the tri-county it has like would be
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pulling down on his legs and it doesn't
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let go that it was it was it was paying
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off the class action suits from all the
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people put money into that machine
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that's why they weren't or didn't have
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it finally was like that scene in casino
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someone's gonna come out and say these
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mean slot machines the paint off you
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didn't show the floor down although
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maybe this is just another point in six
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favorite the kid might just be that good
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yeah he's a crane game wizard but that
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could make the poor man's version of
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Tommy who rock opera
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yeah that's gonna be my family
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Oh God so we go back to since house said
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said gets woody and buzz and and once we
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Kaylee who is fed to the dog since house
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the rug and sits outshining shining yep
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yep drug and shining wallpaper is a
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motif that carries around i say did the
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decorator can pick family to the shining
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everywhere they've got they've got to
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take a 237 through everyone knew it he's
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a member of the replica prop forum
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explains everything the tools the the
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rug that he made very complete
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disinterest in his children
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exactly i like the fact that buzz
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spacesuit the dayglo elements actually
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do glow yes license room that's and that
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and that weird sickly glow that you only
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see an absolute pitch darkness
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uh-huh right perfect the end and this is
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where this is where we get the buzzes
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moment of realization where he's not
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flying toy he sees a TV commercial which
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is a an amusingly cheesy TV commercial i
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figure if two pics are made this movie
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today that would be in live action but
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it's not
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although it's got its got Penn Jillette
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doing his best shouty TV commercial
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narrator voice and buzzes is taking it
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back to the point where once he's lost
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his arm and he seemed that he's a toy he
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decides to just go with it and be mrs.
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Nesbitt and enjoy the party in CID
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sister's room which is pretty funny and
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then Randy Newman sings
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song while passing a stone in ruins at
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all haha the tea party gives them an
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excuse to put in the actual opengl
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teapot there are many many many hidden
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things this movie I mean you figure this
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is the first one that yeah it seems like
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it's like packed with stuff like figured
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everything I gotta put in something if
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you pause like read the titles of the
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books that are behind with you look at
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all this stuff in the call the shot one
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is like that one's just for the 3d
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people write like it's the actual opengl
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teapot is like a demo resource or
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something
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yeah it just google opengl teapot is
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always so so one of the things I really
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like here is that this is where would he
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make reestablish contact with with
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Andy's room and it's a funny scene
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because buzzes lost it and and lost his
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arm and he's completely just catatonic
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and and so would he is communicating
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accurately about what's going on and
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they don't believe him and there's that
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funny moment where he heat like he's got
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the arm and he strikes a low buzz right
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here and it all unravels and now
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everybody's sure that nobody is a
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monster that is very that is a very
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funny scene we also learned at this
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point that mr. Potato Head is a terrible
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battleship player that's a great
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business it's a little subtle that's
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another one for the parents he's got all
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of his ships clumped into foursquare and
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he's filled up every single spot on the
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board from the shots he's taken on Rex
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or he's playing ham that damn right it's
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amazing
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I this is also where and this is
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actually one of those plot twist that I
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really love which is like like me saying
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that maybe it's not so bad
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what that what they're really doing here
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with our expectations is this idea that
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these these misfit toys these which they
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call it like the cannibal toys but there
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are assumed to be scary and evil because
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they're ugly and mismatched and this is
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where we did we discover that even
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though they don't talk and they're all
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you know and they're all weird looking
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they're actually perfectly nice and they
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fix buzz and it's i really love that
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moment that these guys are not bad and
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we have just assumed because of the
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horror movie setting that their end that
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their that they're you know they're evil
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and they're cannibals and it's just not
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burning man
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that the burning compound it's likely
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it's just like burning man and you got
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it but they're the body modification
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would that the other toys in Andy's room
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had exercised such understanding before
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wanting to string woody up this whole
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thing wouldn't have happened
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well isn't that interesting that here in
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here in the tyranny of SIDS a room with
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all the toys being dismantled and
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reattached this is a quote you know I a
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culture with sort of a quiet dignity
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amid the amid the rubble is that they're
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all kind of nice and helpful and silent
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whereas in n Andy supposedly happy room
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it's a you know full of recriminations
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and bitterness toward toward woody and
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things like that but it's just it's
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really sweet and it is that you know you
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judged us because of what we look like
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and you made a real mistake moment that
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i like because I judge them right i mean
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they're scary where the movie tells us
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to be scared of them and then send em
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you blew it you're a bad person which I
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like yeah I'm with you there
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that's a nice it's just nice flip around
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that's nice reverse and they're silent
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which also keeps it really interesting
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that they they are you know there's like
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the little cliques and things have been
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moving but there is a horrible horrible
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screeching noise is the Babyhead rises
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up on its a regular legs which is nice
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yeah but they're perfectly perfectly
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nice toys you want to help Americans
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they're good at reattaching parts
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because you know it's a guy who's like
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basically a steamroller with a head
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attached and the hour
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yeah I sense of humor where he pokes it
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without getting dark and forbidding Ned
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no no this is this is just the i can
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head perched atop just a rolling rolling
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pin type thing and he rolls the last one
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to roll out from under the bed and he's
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got a little hand attached to him and he
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looks up at woody and he pokes him in
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the side
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yeah and and that's the last straw
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that's what makes what he shoot up onto
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the bed again but it's a great little
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gag XP life apparently originally and in
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the screenplay this they're saved by an
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intervention from Barbies from the
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sisters room but famously the mattel
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corporations that and will not use
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Barbie in your little computer movie The
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Changeling to mention mattel at one
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point in the script
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yeah yeah but they don't use any of the
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licensing right the licensed characters
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and released Barbie wasn't able to be
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licensed and of course yes they do not
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believe i met a little bit too by saying
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it's not actually mattel but its
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subsidiary that was purchased from Japan
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or something yeah but instead we you
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know we get these we get these misfit
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toys which i really like this is where
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they say in that they put together their
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their their heist and this is where we
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get wine for frog an excellent i can't
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believe that's a thing I i had never
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just noticed that my love that time I
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wrote it down it's in my notes every
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time you people been saying wine the
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Frog I can only think of like i did a
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good Jim Morrison doors line 1 the frog
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and the frogs cool i just like the idea
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that there is a clockwork uh a clockwork
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set up of a series of events that need
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to happen and the key moment that will
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start off this entire very serious plot
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to escape is why the Frog start with one
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in the front and we go from there
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I keep thinking of bela lugosi in
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Deadwood going through the ceiling and
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the frog the front i actually like I
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don't think the frog has no lines and I
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don't know if the frogs or even changes
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expression but it has like a little
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personality as like a little toy like
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you can see it's ready to go in and zips
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out there it makes this little loop turn
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to go downstairs and turning down the
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stairs like when the Frog is the
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greatest toy in the whole escape plan
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because he actually shoots out
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underneath the dog without any kind of
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concern for his own safety
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everybody else goes through the ductwork
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are out the windows writing and look how
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they freedom dog is good wine the Frog i
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have a name you know it's roger i'm
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wondering the Frog is up to my ankles
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because you need to be world there's a
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you know there are several scenes that
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fly by pretty quick that involve these
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you know some of my favorite things is
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like a nerd sitting in and watching it
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after multiple reviewing our are these
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kind of Rube Goldberg things like the
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obviously the whole thing of getting out
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of SIDS house but also you know just the
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that the like the fisher-price you know
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trying to get push buzz out the window
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he's really trying to push him kind of
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behind the desk but that whole sequence
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of the Indiana Jones thing of the globe
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rolling toward him and he slips on a
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crayon he rolls over and then the the
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way the lamp the canonical lamp and some
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swinging around i do that so brilliantly
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done it goes by the whole thing goes by
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in a few seconds but you have to imagine
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the incredible amount of work that went
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into making that look at I meant to
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mention earlier and I didn't get to the
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the army men scene where they're where
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they're reconnoitering to see what the
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president's going to be and it turns out
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to be by logans is shot is it is so well
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definitely one of those very early
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scenes in the movie where they're saying
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you know they're putting it on the table
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here like they're just showing off isn't
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we're gonna if we want to do an army
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movie thing with army men were we can do
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we're going to get our leader me but
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also the fact that like the one that I i
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noticed every time and it always gets me
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is like the dented baseboards like how
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how the doors have been kicked obviously
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you know what I mean just those little
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things and then adjust that just totally
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works for me yep I so I do we need to
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talk a little more about that what
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happens outside with the widths it
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because this is this is that moment
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where I every time I watch it I think
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you're kind of breaking the rules here
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right and it's also super creepy it's
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like suddenly becomes a horror movie
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where it's like we have to honey we have
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to takes it to the psychologist because
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he's saying the toys are talking to him
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I mean move the reanimated when the
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reanimated like the army man with the
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split this nail through his head
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yeah something that's like that's super
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disturbing but then but then they fix it
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later by having him fall over repeatedly
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because he has no arms right kind of
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fixes a little buzz and woody leave that
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yard at the end and they leave like how
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everything is solved but it'sit's house
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I guess from now on the toys will have
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the upper hand on him because he will be
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fear he will fear of his life because he
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thinks they're all going to kill ya know
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he's just going to redouble his efforts
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now like those toys will become with him
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is like a toys you can come to move in
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with a 2 i'm sure he'd love a doll head
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director said spine
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well it's too it's too late at that
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point because they wouldn't there in the
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boxes but but uh yeah I I wonder about
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like the way it escalates to where we're
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first off it's woody talking through his
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voice box
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that's from the string and you're like
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whoa they're breaking the rules but at
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least you know he still limp and
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everything and then he just starts
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moving and I appreciate that that's
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horrifying to the kidneys my god but and
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then all the toys are moving but it also
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feels like a nice
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it also feels like they're they're
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cheating a little bit
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there's nothing there's something in the
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i think i saw this in the wikipedia
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article about how their I think like six
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teams so check me on this but the every
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scene had to go through something like
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16 where there's you know there's
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storyboarding you gotta write it and you
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know finally goes through obviously the
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animation and the shadows and the
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textures and all that stuff like for
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this one I have to say it
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the implementation was extremely well
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done like I thought it looked really
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good I just thought the story part of
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that was super weird and am really out
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of out of keeping with the rest of the
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movie and submit yeah maybe not out of
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the maybe add another this movie but
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they've already set the horror movie
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stage in in Syd's room yeah as follows
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on from that I mean it works okay for me
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anyway it was good i couldn't have just
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escaped was like they want you that once
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you've established these toys are here
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and they're really good toys that is in
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a bad situation you can't just rescue
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buzz and woody and have them run away
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and then you'd be thinking well I guess
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it just goes back to torturing his toys
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like so you have to get some kind of
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resolution and one was ever gonna stops
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it from torturing his toys short short
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of killing the kid
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yeah this is a pretty good trade-off I
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think or having all the toys escape so
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what I think what i think is interesting
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about about after the resolution with
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Sid being totally freaked out is I i was
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struck that this sort of feels like it
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should be the end of the movie and this
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is the point where the movie says uh-uh
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that truck already left you have it you
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we are now going to pile on a another
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like huge action chase scene which i
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think is gorgeous
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yeah i think i think the second ending
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is better than the first video ended
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after the rescue from Sid no good you
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need something more uplifting it's a
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funny it's a funny moment where you feel
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like they could in here but they instead
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go now are our heroes are heroes are out
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of danger
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you need notes that it's not just get is
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that just came out of danger you have to
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submit them together as a new unit
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right and you have to allow the other
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toys to redeem themselves for the way
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they turned on woody to say alright we
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in the end you're welcome back
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yeah it ended there you can might assume
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that they may rejoin the toys at some
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point and are immediately everybody is
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still ostracized and immediately kicked
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out of the back of the truck I'll buzz
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is the new leader and you you have to
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get the toys back to the kid who lost
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his toys in the end I basically like the
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kids are going to empathize with the kid
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who is like mama can't find them well
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I'm sure we'll find them we move that
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he's despondent as opposed to throwing a
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tantrum which might be slightly more
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realistic that then that he can't find
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the boys and they're moving the house
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and he gets them back in a way that is
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totally believable in the human world
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was like oh you found them where they
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could parents don't care of the kids
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toys are like the other things a little
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bit out if it's obviously the mom does
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not understand like the the provenance
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of woody toy which boosts is revealed in
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the subsequent movie like it's not like
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a family heirloom and she's not annoyed
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lost whatever they'll turn up blah i
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found them all really were they were in
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the car say told you find them whatever
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like that that all reads well and but
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we're happy for the kids to get a story
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is back and preparatory to be reunited
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with the kid I I hadn't seen the film in
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a few years and i had actually forgotten
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the gag where they triumphantly light
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the match to set off the rocket and then
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a car immediately drives by I know I've
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forgotten that too
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it was so wonderfully timed that I
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actually i did a literal spit-take and i
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had to write whilst i plotted the
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comforter with paper towels
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it is so well done it it just blew me
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away that I had had completely
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completely slipped my mind that was in
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the movie but I'd laughed and laughed
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and said you get the call back to the
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magnifying glass from from Sid which is
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which is pretty industrious on what he's
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part yeah I have forgotten if you would
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ask me to summarize this movie in detail
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i would have said well then what he
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takes the match out and lights the
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Firecracker having completely forgotten
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that that's not what happened and then
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only after its lit realizes that is
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experienced such a heaping helping of
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paint those at that moment because it's
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so triumphant music swelling and then
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she and the matches out and there's a
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distance there's a beat there while you
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just kind of go old and then we get away
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22 rocket rockets explode i want to die
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with you today buzz
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although I was troubled by the fact that
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the wood he seems to chuck rc's
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remote-control away like into the street
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when he doesn't add the party doesn't
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need the remote control
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alright because i got on RC 2020 and he
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does but that's that is not use toys you
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know how many remote control toys i have
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with no remote control in this house
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until viable Tony believe me now and we
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got the falling with style callback
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which which according to a story i read
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actually wasn't in the script and then
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they were watching playback of one of
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these scenes very late in the process
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and somebody said shouldn't he say i'm
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falling with style here and they're like
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okay get to melon on the phone we're
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gonna have to record that dialogue
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Wow and the end it was not apparently a
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plant callback that seemed like such a
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I know I know but the story I read said
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that that was unintentional and they're
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like yeah really pretty much need we
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need to do that here
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why would we not do that here one
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potential knock on sit here that could
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use some seriously week duct tape either
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that or buzzes wings are incredibly
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unsafe for children yeah because he just
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he just flipped him right flip them
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right open he slices right through the
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duct tape
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he's he's also remarkably aerodynamic
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with those little tiny wings we actually
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sorta like that but you know he's that
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think of it more in terms of the Boba
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Fett action figure with the actual
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firing rocket pack big man imagine that
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he that buzzes the pre recall version of
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that toy these the springs are way too
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strong there the inflatable way way too
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fair enough I i do love the the cutbacks
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to the back of a truck where there is
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the the unified front against woody is
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starting to fall apart and potato head
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gets blasted by them as they as they
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rocket onto the onto the truck that's
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that's it's funny to revisit those
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characters and be reintroduced to them
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and see them realize that Woody and Buzz
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are too
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they're in there working on this and and
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it's all it's all going to gonna be okay
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in the end and it's fun it's just a fun
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action sequence the whole thing because
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there's so many different twists and
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turns and it's not just we gotta catch
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up with those guys because the battery
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although i'm left wondering if slinky
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dog is ever going to be the same again
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he may not be out a slinky before that
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it'sit's very they're working very hard
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to get him back together at the end
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because he's been stretched thank God it
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doesn't get knotted up
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everytime i watch this movie too i think
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that because realistically slinkies do
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like that's the end of every metals
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metal 50-gallon yeah that's how every
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metal slinky dies in your life where
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it's not the end for slinky dog maybe
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that's okay because we again perhaps
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that it is a slinky dog of which there
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were like million so the thousands
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thousands made so maybe slinky dog gets
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all tangled up
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unbeknownst to the rest of the toys mom
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buys him a new one and people and
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because and because they don't really
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identify this slinky dog as an
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individual but simply as his product
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name this new one is just as good as the
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old one to get to these people
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you think she tells the kid a story on
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slinky dog ran away
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you know just like dad is now living on
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a farm upstate pretty good going and
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going and go upstairs alone and in pairs
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because that's where a lot of slinky
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dogs goes go to live so speaking of dogs
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at the end of the Berlin loves a slinky
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dog we have our final ah we're in the
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new house and it's Christmas and their
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opening presents and we've got the army
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will not their army man recon is still
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happening and they they all have a good
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laugh because they're now all firmly
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tied back together as as Andy's toys and
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what could win buzzes a little worried
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about a new toy because he hasn't been
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through this before and and don't worry
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buzz what could be worse than you and
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that's when we get the last line a puppy
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they have that line during a slow slow
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zoom out on the snowy house and then it
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snaps back it never goes back through
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the window shows the exterior house and
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then it goes all the way back into the
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house yet big warning the subtext of
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this by the way is that now all of the
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toys will be ignored and forgotten
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yes they found another threatened by the
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chewing them essentially it's because we
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saw what happened to that one alien
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it'sit's house plus they threatened by
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obsolescence which will be revisited in
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in future films right i mean that that
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was going to say this earlier about the
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about the the aliens that you could
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argue that the the aliens are not just
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an analog for kids and trying to make
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sense of an insensible world with their
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parents telling them what to do but you
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could also say that it's uh it's it's
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people in general trying to make sense
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of the world and and I think that
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worldview is is borne out by future
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films and this franchise been get a
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little dark get a little dark
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I like that there's a really conspicuous
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Western pillow on a Space Ranger
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comforter so we're really clear that
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that's really integrated happy family
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that's right i like the practice space
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ranger comforter is still the dominant
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visual thing yes that's true and here is
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a kind of a stranger pillow underneath
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the western horizon and then everyone's
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okay with that it's not like he goes
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back to what he doesn't he's moved on to
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his next thing that he's well kids are
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kids are assassination of all of these
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things and writing things drop away but
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you also kind of have this buildup of
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things so like his toy box is still a
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Western it's a woody theme to basically
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toy box and that's that's still there
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but then you add in the stuff and you
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end up with this big melange of
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different things and that's yeah that's
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what kids are like 10 minutes
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it's sort of like a mash-up of
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everything that you own
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suddenly they're all part of the same
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story right right when your kid that's
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true yeah then you get into I'm not
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baseball cards or something and I want
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to mention that to actually because
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because uh other than at the arcade
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there are no video games in this world
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and i thought that and I know that I
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think changes in the future movies but
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that struck me because I had that
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question of like what are the video
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games are they just games are they alive
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are they like wreck-it Ralph what's
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going on with it whether that's when
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they say that I don't worry to board
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game or wired the board games live for
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ya little people in the board exam
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environment Napoli call this tiny little
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pigs running around the lips
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yeah did the cars and from the game of
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life drive around on a movable wheels so
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it seems unlikely the battleships were
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alive at checkers are a lot of the
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monopoly figures are like on solo in
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carbonite and the iron is still the most
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pathetic character the entire menagerie
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yes you think he's worse
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shouldn't the entire top hat is talking
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a little longer races off like your top
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at because you can just do a whole micro
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two-story with just the monopoly tokens
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but this is that this is my question is
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I mean and they just don't cover but i
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thought i did notice the absence of a
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videogame anything from this movie like
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we will we're not going to touch that
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stress crazy
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plus it's the people making this movie
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we're not necessarily people who were
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kids when video games were as big a
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thing as they wanted the TVs are drying
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bubble CRT's to the entire premise this
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movie is you as a kid you always imagine
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what did what to my toys do when I'm not
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playing with them i don't think anybody
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ever thought I wonder what my Zenith
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magazine of television 19 inch
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television set my smile my playstation
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are doing what I'm not thats I wanted
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that all the time
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wreck-it Ralph answer that for me so now
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i got it at the turning on in
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downloading system updates
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yes case of the PlayStation mobile
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intransitive if they were conscious
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thought to say you know we're not going
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to do that because we want to encourage
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people to play and to use their
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imaginations instead of sitting there
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going pupae and I mean it really what it
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comes down to is that no one goes to
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sleep at night with their atari 2600
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snuggle up next to them but the the
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tickets because no contrary mine for a
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fall asleep spread-eagled on top of it
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because I've been playing too late
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honestly admit my son goes to sleep
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surrounded by minecraft memorabilia
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Charlie it was it was 1995 we're talking
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about the 16-bit area right so they're
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not quite as ubiquitous as the xbox kids
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of today you don't part you don't
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personify them this know there's no
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physical thing for you to snuggle you do
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not personify them and and and do like
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you may you may get minecraft toys and
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play with those toys but then the toilet
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wrestling with not the actual video game
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itself right all right well I guess
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we're at the point where i should ask
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everybody the big question was which is
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where we think looking back and re
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watching this where does this where is
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this movie fall in terms of quality of
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of pixar movies and movies in general
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any thoughts Steve sure uh this is not
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my favorite Pixar movie i think i
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mentioned that in the pixar podcast I
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think it's a really good film
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and I respect the heck out of it as a
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milestone but I don't really think pixar
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came into their own until they figure
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out how to make audiences cry enjoys to
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redo well it when they got randy newman
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out of the way and he wasn't just
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shouting during the big emotional
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development
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yeah I know it's they always say that
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it's harder to make audiences laugh and
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cry in films but I think with animation
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that's actually flipped a little bit and
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the animator has so many more tools that
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is disposable for making his disposal
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rather from picking comedy but the
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Unreal isn't at all i think makes drama
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harder to pull off and I think when they
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actually manage that within toy story 2
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is what the third third film
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third thumbnail I think that's really
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when they they they hit their stride toy
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story 3 on the other hand might actually
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be a little too maudlin but we can talk
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about that when we get there so yeah
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great film
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I you know I think it's superb for the
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time it's amazing what they pulled off
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as sort of a what should really been
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more proof of concept but I as i read in
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the pixar can and I i think it's maybe
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in my top five but it'd be pretty low in
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that anybody else
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well we talked about in the creativity
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in episode of how i had cad models like
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lifelong dream was to make a
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feature-length computer animated movie
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and I I always wanted such a thing to
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exist from the moment I knew the
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computer graphics were think that was
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possible to see ms terrible demos on PBS
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throwing a bunch of wireframes on the
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fuzzy CRT said you know that the idea
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that if we just keep improving this we
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can make images that are you know it
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indistinguishable from reality
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believable and that you could make an
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entire movie like with no actual people
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and no cameras entirely in the computer
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and toy story for me will always be tied
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to that independent of the movie itself
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it really helps that it was a good movie
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and not a terrible stinker but just the
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audacity and the technical achievement
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it's kind of like you know the the
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original Macintosh or like one of those
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things where if you look back at it as a
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product you have problems and it was
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tentative and weird and awkward in ways
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that the future iterations would not be
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but it just stands alone as this thing
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like maybe if you're not into it you
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know that most the audience to start as
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a movie but if if you have been way
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being all your you know your short would
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however all there was this point you
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know life to say someone I think this
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can be done and someone could do it and
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like to have it be out there and other
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people accept it as the end don't laugh
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it off and going to ignore it's just
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like yes they did it they did you know I
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I can't you know that will always be the
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place toy story has in my mind when I
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rank it with the rest of the pixar
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movies it's not even my paper toy story
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movie little my favorite Pixar movie but
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every time I come back to it
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I'm surprised like at when I don't want
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you for a long time it fades in my
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estimation my god you know is the first
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one whatever probably but everytime i
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watch it again i can know what this
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movie is not bad they did some really
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good things it's much better than I
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original Macintosh for it being the
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the original I I agree completely it's
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it's sort of like when I every now and
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it's not a great movie but the reason
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you can really see him finally and
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figure out okay
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this wasn't the movie that I've always
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wanted to make but now I totally
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understand what our purposes as a
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filmmaker and I think toy story is
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exactly the same thing it's a very it's
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a really wonderful movie in and of
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itself the characters worked really
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really well there's so many nice movie
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and nice moments in it but pretty much
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you're looking at the a a filmmaker
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making their first real movie and
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realizing that i have a unique voice I
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have a purpose for my storytelling that
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i'm going to prosecute much much better
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and my subsequent movies than this one
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but this was a very valuable movie for
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me to make I'm right with you guys in
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that it's it's not even my favorite toy
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story movie either but it's you know
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it's always had a soft spot for me
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because it was one of the earliest dates
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i went on with my wife my now wife and
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so you know I remember where I was at
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the time and i don't i don't often
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remember that with movies and I remember
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what my life was like in the month that
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i was that I first saw toy story and
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when she was except
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have your doll museum flashbacks that
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this was a match made in heaven when I
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said they're looking at the doll hitter
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Erector Set spider going oh yeah and I
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didn't run away you know huh
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I think Berlin just passed out now i'm
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here now that the golf thing is stuff
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that's sugar for me David
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yeah I grabbed that's rewarding passed
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out may contain dolls and and i will say
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i mean in the doll museum is part of why
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I do feel a strong connection to the toy
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story movies because I did that I did
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you know make stories with these dolls
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and action figures and all these things
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which you can read about the magazine
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and you know it its way to a story three
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really hits me by the end so yeah I I i
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love it and even though it is you know
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again it's it's the first one and it's
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just good it's fine if you know you can
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overlook whatever little flaws it might
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have because it if it weren't for that
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we wouldn't have all these other
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wonderful movies
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yeah I I i had very little to add that's
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that's how I feel too
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it's it's almost like there's certain
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kinds of things that are difficult to
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look at critically and I think this 162
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of those boxes which on the one hand is
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really awfully good but it is also in
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retrospect like pretty primitive in some
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ways compared to what we have now so
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it's difficult to look at it it's
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difficult to look at it with a clear I
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and be able to you know try and like
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bring those two things together in a way
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that makes sense so I mean like when you
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see something like what like that trip
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to the moon movie and where you first
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see people trying to do these crazy
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stuff with what you can really do with
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cinema beyond like filling people on a
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stage and do these crazy cuts and crazy
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effects and watch it now and it seems
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real wackadoodle but I so it's hard for
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me to separate in some ways but like I
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don't you guys have seen the 2012 movie
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called food fight
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yeah well i was introduced to this buy a
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no Marlon don't see the movies that are
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in the flop that's at all right here now
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in like that you kind of have to in my
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masses inhalation of of the flophouse
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the only movie that i was moved to go
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out and find and actually look at was
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why she loves something I was moved to
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see but i haven't you got to be Cloris
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Leachman completed so you're not
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according to become completely that's
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all there is to it but I mean you know
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that's that's a that's a big fish in a
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big barrel but it's but you know it's
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amazing to look at something like that
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with that technology and realize that
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like gosh there's just so much more to
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this and what we just see on the screen
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there's there's so much to like you know
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if you become a little bit of a pixar
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nerd and you start digging in and
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looking at stuff like the animatics and
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how these things evolve over time it's
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difficult to criticize and when I
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criticizing the true sense of the word
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it's difficult to have enough distance
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from that to say something sensible you
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know about my kind of what it means in
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the creative cannon because it is kind
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of primitive that is kind of creepy
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there's a bunch of stuff that I bet they
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look at in the same way that somebody
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would look at like their work on Star
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Wars and god I wish I could do that
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differently and and that the same thing
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I haven't had the compunction to go back
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and won't fix it right because it could
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totally do or quote unquote lose the
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original copy quote unquote but but in
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this instance like ADV amazing part is
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it really really does still stand up i
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mean there's a part of me that thinks
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that you know toys are gonna be around
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for a really long time and in kids and
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parents and they're funny relationships
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will be around for a long time and
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you'll be able to look at this movie for
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twenty fifteen hundred years and still
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look at it go like not only is that an
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amazing technical achievement for the
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time but that's still a funny bit you
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know that's still you know that still
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works and personally like I'm a huge fan
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of toy story 3i think toy story 2 in
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some ways was really the apotheosis of
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this of this series but like even just
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looking back at that like I find it if I
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sit there and now i have to talk on a
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podcast about it i'll sit there and look
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at things like what the wood texture on
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the banister looked like in perspective
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as he's flying down but like you don't
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really watch it that way you watch it as
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this wonderful thrill ride that
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completely works on a lot of levels so
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you know it's it's it's hard to have
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distance
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from it but like I I think it's just
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still absolutely terrific if you just
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looked at it as an as an exercise in
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just in computer graphics it would it's
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it's hair curling what they were able to
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pull off and now i think i think it
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still is still works today and and it's
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it's difficult to do anything appraise
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it for me
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you mentioned a trip to the moon the
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movie that I would compare this to
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infuse regular cinema is more like
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Citizen Kane because there had been
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trips to the moon before they had been
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Pixar's own shorts that's been the
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commercials have been lots of computer
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graphics but citizen Kane's are defining
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the modern vocabulary of moviemaking toy
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story in so many ways to find what a 3d
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animated kids movie like yeah but we're
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not just taking not just taking choppy
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story and like unusual depth of
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perception but being able to put that
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all together in a way where you go wow
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that actually really worked and not have
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every shot be like flying through
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Aladdin's cave or the ballroom scene not
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have every shot but all we can spin the
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camera anywhere like shoot it like a
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movie right hot but with the 3d stuff in
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the scene it is hard to separate the
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tooth the two aspects of this film
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because it is groundbreaking and and in
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fundamental ways technically but I and I
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was going to mention the same thing
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which is now looking back of a a history
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of of 19 years of computer animated
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films imagine if the first computer
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animated film had been you know Berlin
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said food fight or just take some of the
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lesser dreamworks azur something like
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shark tale it would have been a
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technical achievement but it would not
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have had the other the artistic scores
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like for the Olympic the Olympics judges
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would have not given a high artistic
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scores just the technical scores and and
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i would argue that if you took this
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screenplay today and made it you
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wouldn't need to change a word and it
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would still be a great movie with you
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modern animation and and i think that
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you know 19 years later it works it yeah
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the technical stuff was really early and
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now we look back on it and go well you
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know 19 years later we could do a better
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job at the time it was an incredible
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milestone but the creative aspects of it
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it's solid it's a it's and where I think
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this whole job
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I was so fortunate that a good movie
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came out of this first movie or who
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knows what would have happened but even
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if you're a giant if you have your giant
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nerd or a giant pics are especially if
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you're a giant pig Sarner there's a
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pretty simple thing you can do to
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realize what a leap this is there is I
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think two collections of pixar shorts
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that you can buy on itunes that we watch
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constantly and you know it's all the me
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know the second the most of the first
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part of the second volume are all the
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shorts that they made as kind of the you
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know short features that run before it's
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all the things like a hawk god that
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amazing you know the Toy Story 1 wherein
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the fast-food place like just the butt
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but the thing is if you want to really
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appreciate this leap if you want to see
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like on your own kind of personal graph
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what this movie met going by the pixar
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shorts volume 1 and see what they were
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able to do in the amount of time that
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like it took you to go to college will
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delete that they made in like really
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just a handful of years to go from
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something like The Incredible creepiness
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of the baby's diaper intent loi to be
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able to like make us notice the texture
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like on the stitching of what his hat
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they did that in like of just a handful
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of years so like I know what I'm saying
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is even if you are like a hyper nerd
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looking at this in terms of the
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technology you can appreciate that like
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they they did that I mean it's like the
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whole like you know Ginger Rogers says
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you know I did it all but backwards in
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and high heels like when you watch like
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an hour and a half long movie that
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pulled all that stuff off i think it's
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you appreciate it even more and I got
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the feeling watching this movie aside
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from the technical parts the same kind
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of feeling to get watching like the
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original Star Wars there's something or
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even like using Apple products or
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there's something pic sorry about this
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and what pic sorry about is not so much
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jokes and like that will never that will
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never fade like it just like in Star
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you this movie feel still feels like
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Pixar to make is what do you expect from
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Pixar movie i expect you know great
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characters i expect the movie to be
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smart i expected to trust the audience
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it is going to follow on expected to not
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mind if the audience doesn't get
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everything I you know I i expected not
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to be like long and boring or like a
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movie just for kids expect to be just as
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much for adults or if anything seems
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like it's moving mostly for adults like
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all those things we come to associate
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with Pixar are present in this movie and
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that that stands out to me like when I
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watch it again like it feels like you're
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like oh yeah it was pretty good but
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really in the grand scheme of things
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it's pretty good for Pixar movie and in
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the end all movies all all animal movies
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or any other writers like wow this has
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that extra special pics are something
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which automatically puts it way up above
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like things like Shrek and stuff i would
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i would rather watch Toy Story one over
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again at any of the shrek movies
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yeah yeah well and if you think about
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all the great dancers and all the great
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comedians and all the grape people who
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are making movies at the same time as
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Fred and Ginger but we remember Fred and
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Ginger because there was something about
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the alchemy of it wasn't it wasn't that
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it was shot any better it was you know
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what they did was special and it's the
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same thing with this that it's not the
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technology that read with that we really
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talked about a really think about
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anymore it's that it is a great story
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and it is you mean you mean you fell in
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love with these characters right off the
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bat especially when you know you are a
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toy and immediately you empathize with
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both sides of that conversation
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alright well I think we've reached the
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end of talking about pixar oh I you know
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I guess I like 22 is what I'm saying
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it's one of my favorites and it still
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holds up but it's yeah and i like it
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tool like it too and I so I'd like to
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thank my guests for joining me to talk
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about this excellent and first animated
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movie we didn't even talk about that
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it's responsible for all those terrible
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movies that were to come but you know
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they did their part it's not their fault
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so David lower thanks for being here
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thank you for having me Andy and
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cocktail pleasure as always it's been a
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John siracusa thank you for being here
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to infinity and beyond and beyond
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that's a great joke hey it's gotten
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overstated but it's it's it's a great
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joke see let's thank you Jason the word
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I'm searching for I can't say because
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there's preschool toys bread
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and merlin mann thank you thank you and
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everybody out there thanks for listening
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to be uncomfortable i'm your host Jason
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Steele will see you next time
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yeah well good riddance you loony you
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are a sad strange little man
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farewell
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