The Incomparable

212: A MacGyver in the Making


00:00:00   is dispensing maybe 14-1 the fro the [TS]

00:00:07   uncomfortable 312 September's 2040 [TS]

00:00:14   welcome back to the uncomfortable [TS]

00:00:15   podcast I'm your host Jason snail we are [TS]

00:00:17   picking up our our continuing coverage [TS]

00:00:21   of classic animated movies and at some [TS]

00:00:24   point I decided we probably could just [TS]

00:00:26   walk right through the pixar can and as [TS]

00:00:28   we doing sort with the miyazaki cannon [TS]

00:00:31   and i decided to start the beginning [TS]

00:00:33   we've done some episodes since pixar [TS]

00:00:35   movies have been released since we've [TS]

00:00:37   been on the air but we haven't gone back [TS]

00:00:38   to the classic yet we need a pixar [TS]

00:00:40   episode but i wanted to take these films [TS]

00:00:42   apart one by one so we're going to be [TS]

00:00:45   talking about toy story and I'd like to [TS]

00:00:47   introduce the original toy story just [TS]

00:00:50   the first movie because this is not an [TS]

00:00:51   eight hour long podcast it's only like a [TS]

00:00:53   five hour long podcast let me introduce [TS]

00:00:55   the people who are going to be talking [TS]

00:00:57   about Pixar's first feature film with me [TS]

00:01:00   tonight [TS]

00:01:01   david lawrence here is almost always [TS]

00:01:03   hello howdy partner [TS]

00:01:05   it's good to have you here Steve Lutz is [TS]

00:01:08   here [TS]

00:01:09   hi Steve hello Jason how are you this [TS]

00:01:11   evening i am doing just fine [TS]

00:01:13   that's magnificent uh Andy not coach [TS]

00:01:16   Owens us as well hi Andy I'm gonna need [TS]

00:01:18   a minute here I've got a snake in my [TS]

00:01:20   boot [TS]

00:01:22   John siracusa is also here hi John wine [TS]

00:01:25   the frogs before we go [TS]

00:01:29   and of course you know him you love him [TS]

00:01:32   you can't live without him it is mr. [TS]

00:01:35   Merlyn man [TS]

00:01:37   hi Marilyn hi Jason good to have you [TS]

00:01:39   here thank you i don't know the part of [TS]

00:01:41   the movie where they say hi Jason but [TS]

00:01:42   references not know sorry [TS]

00:01:44   how do you have you had all right there [TS]

00:01:45   you go thanks what are we doing quotes [TS]

00:01:47   now [TS]

00:01:48   no no i didn't get one replied how about [TS]

00:01:50   this one [TS]

00:01:51   it's too short we need more monkeys we [TS]

00:01:53   need more monkeys there's no more the [TS]

00:01:55   barrel [TS]

00:01:56   alright toy story uh did it [TS]

00:02:00   where to begin with this it is the first [TS]

00:02:04   real animated cgi you know 3d animated [TS]

00:02:08   feature film and now all of the animated [TS]

00:02:11   films are like this and going back and [TS]

00:02:14   viewing this movie last night which I [TS]

00:02:18   did because I like to be prepared sort [TS]

00:02:20   of prepared for the podcast i was [TS]

00:02:21   actually impressed at the state of [TS]

00:02:22   animation in in 1995 it doesn't feel as [TS]

00:02:26   dated as I thought it would [TS]

00:02:27   it I I think you're absolutely right the [TS]

00:02:29   only thing that's off-putting is you [TS]

00:02:31   when you see cgi graphics of that kind [TS]

00:02:33   you almost feel a game controller in [TS]

00:02:35   your hands and yet of course this was [TS]

00:02:37   absolutely cutting edge of the time [TS]

00:02:39   that's the only thing that disconnect me [TS]

00:02:41   from it i would say everything here is [TS]

00:02:43   good but the people are still very much [TS]

00:02:45   in the uncanny valley and and are [TS]

00:02:48   somewhat horrifying yeah not too not [TS]

00:02:50   baby intent I level horrifying but [TS]

00:02:52   there's still a little disturbing which [TS]

00:02:54   I mean there's there's a good reason why [TS]

00:02:56   almost all the people are seen at leg [TS]

00:02:58   level or from several miles away or we [TS]

00:03:01   get lots of POV shots yeah Andy running [TS]

00:03:03   through the house there's some zombie [TS]

00:03:04   arms on them to they're all kind of [TS]

00:03:06   stiff and we we get lots of close-ups to [TS]

00:03:08   sit because he's supposed to look awful [TS]

00:03:10   but everybody else [TS]

00:03:12   humans don't look terrible they look [TS]

00:03:13   cartoonish and they don't look realistic [TS]

00:03:15   but a lot of the things look like that [TS]

00:03:17   whether the things that they couldn't do [TS]

00:03:18   though are very clear like cloth forget [TS]

00:03:20   it [TS]

00:03:21   they just like their clothing is like [TS]

00:03:23   these and his bed is very well made [TS]

00:03:25   under the heading is not like just a [TS]

00:03:27   close on the people like their shirts [TS]

00:03:29   and shorts are just like cylinders of [TS]

00:03:31   hard plastic like it with weird seems [TS]

00:03:34   and they just can't do that particle [TS]

00:03:35   effects they didn't really like when the [TS]

00:03:37   dump truck comes up in the sandbox that [TS]

00:03:39   is the worst back to this entire movie I [TS]

00:03:40   was shocked when I came on like oh that [TS]

00:03:42   like move or personally i do that shot [TS]

00:03:44   like they just didn't he didn't have [TS]

00:03:46   time i didn't have technology or both to [TS]

00:03:48   do that but I'm what I'm surprised that [TS]

00:03:50   looking at this movie is how good like [TS]

00:03:53   they knew they do certain things well [TS]

00:03:54   and how good those things look like but [TS]

00:03:58   he called what he's faced buzz [TS]

00:04:01   lightyears helmet like all the things [TS]

00:04:03   that you can I can do shiny completely [TS]

00:04:05   hard completely rigid surfaces really [TS]

00:04:07   well with render man and those those [TS]

00:04:10   still look good and they look they look [TS]

00:04:12   good in a way that's timeless the other [TS]

00:04:14   parts don't look good in a way this time [TS]

00:04:15   which is kind of a shame but hey this is [TS]

00:04:17   the very very very first one [TS]

00:04:19   yeah i like to imagine traditional sell [TS]

00:04:21   animators seeing this movie for the very [TS]

00:04:23   first first-time encountering certain [TS]

00:04:25   scenes like that that early POV shot and [TS]

00:04:28   the credits were Andy spinning around in [TS]

00:04:29   his recliner or that the overhead shot [TS]

00:04:32   in Syd's room where he bumps the light [TS]

00:04:33   bulb in the shadows are swinging back [TS]

00:04:35   and forth perfectly i can just see sell [TS]

00:04:37   animators watching that and there [TS]

00:04:39   just bursting into flames did the sight [TS]

00:04:41   gag with the present like where it's [TS]

00:04:42   foreshortened like the graphically for [TS]

00:04:44   shorten it because like they can control [TS]

00:04:46   everything like everything control the [TS]

00:04:47   camera they control the persons hand [TS]

00:04:49   like you try to do that in live-action [TS]

00:04:50   it's more difficult to pull off but [TS]

00:04:51   because the computer graphics give that [TS]

00:04:53   illusion they might even cheated I could [TS]

00:04:55   have made I don't think they cheated but [TS]

00:04:56   they could have like that kind of [TS]

00:04:58   control for that sight gag you don't [TS]

00:04:59   have in live action and in the I mean [TS]

00:05:02   you know I guess the classic story with [TS]

00:05:03   toy story is that they partly chose it [TS]

00:05:06   because this is the stuff as you say [TS]

00:05:07   that they could make it look good [TS]

00:05:09   there's a lot of stuff in this like [TS]

00:05:11   having watched a lot of animation in the [TS]

00:05:12   last three years and returning this to [TS]

00:05:15   this for the first time in a while where [TS]

00:05:17   I was actually i was really surprised [TS]

00:05:19   how creepy some stuff looked and then I [TS]

00:05:21   was really surprised how amazing like [TS]

00:05:23   Rex looks as good as he doesn't I story [TS]

00:05:25   three [TS]

00:05:26   I mean that I think he looks I think Rex [TS]

00:05:28   is probably the most successful [TS]

00:05:29   character in terms of like looking like [TS]

00:05:32   a thing and yeah but I mean a lot of [TS]

00:05:34   stuff you know the story i can look past [TS]

00:05:37   all of this i mean that weird things [TS]

00:05:39   like there's a kind of uniform [TS]

00:05:40   reflection to anything that's reflective [TS]

00:05:43   with things that seem to be kind of [TS]

00:05:44   floating above it in a weird way but I [TS]

00:05:46   can look past all that because of the [TS]

00:05:47   story meaning including Andy's face and [TS]

00:05:50   if you if you know something with the [TS]

00:05:51   backstory this movie one of the [TS]

00:05:52   interesting things is that this was a [TS]

00:05:53   this was very much a collaboration [TS]

00:05:55   between pixar and disney in the sense [TS]

00:05:57   the pics are really wanted to make a [TS]

00:05:59   feature film and disney kind of went [TS]

00:06:00   along and disney was riding high in [TS]

00:06:02   terms of animation at this point so [TS]

00:06:04   there were some creative collaboration [TS]

00:06:05   early on where the pixar guys were not [TS]

00:06:07   super knowledgeable about like feature [TS]

00:06:11   film scripts and things like that it [TS]

00:06:13   sounds like the way and John you've read [TS]

00:06:15   everything that's ever been published [TS]

00:06:16   about pics are so correct me if I'm [TS]

00:06:18   wrong but it sounds to me like they [TS]

00:06:20   ended up building through many [TS]

00:06:22   iterations a pretty solid story [TS]

00:06:24   structure but there was a moment when [TS]

00:06:26   the when the film got kind of shut down [TS]

00:06:28   and they were having lots of issues and [TS]

00:06:30   I was shocked to see in the opening [TS]

00:06:33   credits that joss whedon is actually [TS]

00:06:34   listed first in the screenplay credit [TS]

00:06:37   guess he's the only for is the most [TS]

00:06:39   famous screenwriter and I group we know [TS]

00:06:40   all the other names in the group now but [TS]

00:06:42   then we didn't know it but he hadn't [TS]

00:06:44   done almost anything at that point [TS]

00:06:46   either he punched it up but right well [TS]

00:06:49   he did was apparently according to what [TS]

00:06:50   i read he took a very good structure [TS]

00:06:52   and he tried to flesh out some of the [TS]

00:06:55   dialogue and some of those situations [TS]

00:06:56   and make it into a good sort of like [TS]

00:06:59   screenplay we're like the story was [TS]

00:07:01   actually really good but that he wanted [TS]

00:07:03   a bunch more character moments and some [TS]

00:07:06   funny or dialogue and wine the Frog [TS]

00:07:08   famously is his and I think Rex is his [TS]

00:07:11   creation the fact that there are the [TS]

00:07:13   misfit toys at the end that saved the [TS]

00:07:14   day with something he came up with and [TS]

00:07:16   there are other examples like that but [TS]

00:07:17   it's it's really interesting that this [TS]

00:07:19   is pics are being so good now at a [TS]

00:07:23   computer animation that they could make [TS]

00:07:24   a feature film which had never been done [TS]

00:07:26   before but still with the training [TS]

00:07:29   wheels on and they had good story ideas [TS]

00:07:31   but they were still not like able to go [TS]

00:07:33   and do it all themselves and and so they [TS]

00:07:36   had all this feedback from disney which [TS]

00:07:37   was really skeptical and they brought in [TS]

00:07:39   screenwriters to help them and it's just [TS]

00:07:41   really interesting because then they [TS]

00:07:43   went on to be so confident but here you [TS]

00:07:45   know they did call in people like joss [TS]

00:07:46   whedon was really well known in the [TS]

00:07:48   business at that point of being a [TS]

00:07:49   rewrite man and having him punch this [TS]

00:07:51   this movie up because they were kind of [TS]

00:07:53   at sea with the screenplay [TS]

00:07:55   well they also pixar got bullied into [TS]

00:07:57   the mean woody angle right right i was a [TS]

00:08:00   note they got was like you know they [TS]

00:08:02   just kept-kept tweaking and tweaking it [TS]

00:08:03   to try to satisfy the notes and the mean [TS]

00:08:05   woody I was like at this time i was [TS]

00:08:08   looking for it and if you look for it [TS]

00:08:09   you can see glimpses of the mean would [TS]

00:08:11   be the beginning of this movie like that [TS]

00:08:12   we had he was you're going to be a super [TS]

00:08:14   big jerk the whole time but then it made [TS]

00:08:15   in not sympathetic yeah there's one [TS]

00:08:17   scene where where he's super scary right [TS]

00:08:21   away and the thing i noticed this time [TS]

00:08:23   around it was uh was a day when the [TS]

00:08:26   they're trying the batteries came out of [TS]

00:08:27   the intercom the trying to find out what [TS]

00:08:28   the present is and he goes down there to [TS]

00:08:31   say i'll let me do it because he's [TS]

00:08:32   trying to land positive/negative [TS]

00:08:33   whatever he pushes the other time out of [TS]

00:08:36   the way like hits the other time makes a [TS]

00:08:38   move out of the way to do the batteries [TS]

00:08:39   that and like the one he the expression [TS]

00:08:43   on his face when he's telling the oh go [TS]

00:08:44   ahead buzz fly like they make a very [TS]

00:08:46   very mean I don't know if that's my [TS]

00:08:48   imagination saying that's left over or [TS]

00:08:50   that they had already animated those [TS]

00:08:51   scenes and it's like and due to time [TS]

00:08:53   constraints we couldn't have that will [TS]

00:08:55   fix it by essentially making him more [TS]

00:08:56   sympathetic later in the movie and [TS]

00:08:58   taking out stuff but the mean what he is [TS]

00:09:01   is on display in [TS]

00:09:03   the early parts of your story one I was [TS]

00:09:05   actually surprised watching this back by [TS]

00:09:07   how many of these toys are actually kind [TS]

00:09:09   of a holes [TS]

00:09:10   I mean they turn on way to her top of [TS]

00:09:12   that my god i have a note later on [TS]

00:09:14   that's like they they throw what he I [TS]

00:09:17   mean what he is perceived to have [TS]

00:09:18   basically Chuck buzz out a window to his [TS]

00:09:21   death and but he's been there since [TS]

00:09:22   kindergarten right so it's a few years [TS]

00:09:24   he's been there he's contracted a leader [TS]

00:09:26   obviously people don't like the [TS]

00:09:28   leadership of woody because they they [TS]

00:09:30   turn on him on a dime or everybody [TS]

00:09:33   except like Bo Peep turns on him and [TS]

00:09:36   slinky but it's like she doesn't have a [TS]

00:09:37   fundable but yeah they did jump straight [TS]

00:09:39   to the lynching to it's not just let's [TS]

00:09:41   have it does have a trial that make [TS]

00:09:43   explain himself the immediately [TS]

00:09:45   etch-a-scketches drawing a gala yeah [TS]

00:09:47   well he's a Western sheriff you gotta be [TS]

00:09:48   you know that was a good gag like this [TS]

00:09:50   that the balance that do with tone is [TS]

00:09:52   like is inappropriate and kids movie the [TS]

00:09:55   edges you had to draw a nuisance like [TS]

00:09:57   but it's a funny joke and you'd like i [TS]

00:10:00   don't think any less of like mr. Potato [TS]

00:10:01   Head and the sketch because like the [TS]

00:10:04   stakes are not you know I don't know [TS]

00:10:06   somehow it works for me like that's the [TS]

00:10:07   line that trying to walk in light of toy [TS]

00:10:09   story 2 and 3 maybe it seems severe but [TS]

00:10:11   every time I watch it I I'm willing to [TS]

00:10:13   accept that that tone is a is [TS]

00:10:16   appropriate for the movie both for kids [TS]

00:10:18   movie and for this movie The mean woody [TS]

00:10:19   is more how to do within the animations [TS]

00:10:21   than in the dialogue or anything else [TS]

00:10:23   well they they they need woody they need [TS]

00:10:25   would be for his leadership but they in [TS]

00:10:27   you know he gets so exasperated with [TS]

00:10:29   everybody because he's in a position of [TS]

00:10:30   some security but they they kind of need [TS]

00:10:33   him to provide that guidance and [TS]

00:10:34   leadership but at the same time they [TS]

00:10:36   want what he has and then of course the [TS]

00:10:38   turnaround is that then woody then loses [TS]

00:10:39   that to somebody else and that's when it [TS]

00:10:41   gets interesting one and if you know the [TS]

00:10:43   whole the idea of the news and [TS]

00:10:44   everything and and serious things like [TS]

00:10:46   that works for me just because when when [TS]

00:10:49   you're that young you go to extremes [TS]

00:10:52   when you're playing right you know [TS]

00:10:53   it'sit's bang bang you're dead done [TS]

00:10:55   right and and you know over the course [TS]

00:10:58   of all the toy story movies the toys [TS]

00:11:00   kind of mature to which is interesting [TS]

00:11:03   to me so so going back and seeing things [TS]

00:11:05   like the news here it's like all right I [TS]

00:11:08   can see that you know I've watched that [TS]

00:11:10   with with mine they they're much more [TS]

00:11:12   gentle now that they're older [TS]

00:11:14   where is when they were young it was [TS]

00:11:15   sort of like you know smash the trains [TS]

00:11:17   together Oh Thomas the Tank Engine is [TS]

00:11:19   dead [TS]

00:11:19   ok but it's almost like they couldn't [TS]

00:11:21   use the you know what we know now it's [TS]

00:11:24   so easy for us to look back and it's [TS]

00:11:25   incredible to think about the protein [TS]

00:11:27   effort that they went through and the [TS]

00:11:29   pushback they got in the budget cuts and [TS]

00:11:31   the production stoppage all the stuff [TS]

00:11:32   that they were able to put out something [TS]

00:11:34   that's good but I mean this is [TS]

00:11:35   completely new territory and it's funny [TS]

00:11:38   that the one thing I I feel like I [TS]

00:11:39   really noticed this time stuff that's [TS]

00:11:41   just like a slight gag will be a slight [TS]

00:11:43   gag and Chuck Jones cartoon something [TS]

00:11:46   like during strange things when you know [TS]

00:11:48   when and he's playing and Buzz shoots [TS]

00:11:52   woody and he slaps him over and like [TS]

00:11:53   knocks him over what what we what they [TS]

00:11:56   couldn't know that we know today is this [TS]

00:11:59   characters can feel incredibly real to [TS]

00:12:01   us now we feel that violence because now [TS]

00:12:03   we've seen now we've grown with those [TS]

00:12:04   characters and stuff but at the same [TS]

00:12:06   time I think at the time it was it was a [TS]

00:12:08   cartoon right and it was an extremely [TS]

00:12:09   well-done cartoon but i don't think they [TS]

00:12:11   could have known how far that process [TS]

00:12:14   would come with great storytelling great [TS]

00:12:16   animation to make us get to the point [TS]

00:12:17   where like you really feel like that [TS]

00:12:19   guy's Pendragon in this movie you know [TS]

00:12:21   what I mean where those relationships [TS]

00:12:23   really do seem real and way beyond like [TS]

00:12:25   wile e coyote i think that what they [TS]

00:12:26   were getting at was that the violence of [TS]

00:12:28   young boys play which i think is [TS]

00:12:30   accurately represented by doing laser go [TS]

00:12:32   laser gun and he smacks woody to the [TS]

00:12:34   side because that's that's how kids [TS]

00:12:35   playing like I accepted that without the [TS]

00:12:38   context of toy story 2 and 3 just seeing [TS]

00:12:39   toy story one you accept that because [TS]

00:12:41   it's like all right when the toys are [TS]

00:12:42   being played with [TS]

00:12:43   they act like toys and they get the [TS]

00:12:46   treatment of toys and you don't get the [TS]

00:12:48   impression that would he is hurt by [TS]

00:12:49   being smacked by the way you get the [TS]

00:12:50   impression that he wants to participate [TS]

00:12:51   in the imaginative play this boy that's [TS]

00:12:53   just part of it like when in light of [TS]

00:12:55   that in light of the subsequent movies [TS]

00:12:57   they told they they told that down [TS]

00:12:59   thanks things have come around so much [TS]

00:13:00   that by the third movie that in fact [TS]

00:13:03   they're living in fear of the [TS]

00:13:04   preschoolers because the preschoolers [TS]

00:13:05   are treating basically like Andy treated [TS]

00:13:07   wood in the first movie like old rehired [TS]

00:13:10   toys then they would say they've grown [TS]

00:13:11   up and have not been had been beaten to [TS]

00:13:13   death anymore like i said the same gag [TS]

00:13:15   in this movie like ages 3 and up says [TS]

00:13:16   right in my box he doesn't want to be [TS]

00:13:18   played with by the younger people i like [TS]

00:13:19   you know the actually that that's I've [TS]

00:13:23   got my notes here in chronological order [TS]

00:13:24   but that brings up something that is [TS]

00:13:26   right at the beginning of the movie that [TS]

00:13:28   notice is the first time we see the toys [TS]

00:13:30   we see them in the context of being toys [TS]

00:13:33   we see Andy playing with them he's got [TS]

00:13:35   his whole fantasy adventure with woody [TS]

00:13:38   is the sheriff and and mr. Potato Head [TS]

00:13:41   as the as the 1i bart or whatever he is [TS]

00:13:45   where he pops the eye off at and so I [TS]

00:13:47   think that's really a great choice that [TS]

00:13:49   the first time we see these characters [TS]

00:13:51   they are in the context of being toys [TS]

00:13:53   and and and he plays with them we see [TS]

00:13:58   lots of shots i noticed lots of shots [TS]

00:14:00   where it's just his arm coming in right [TS]

00:14:02   let's not animate the kid as much as we [TS]

00:14:03   can and then he says see you later woody [TS]

00:14:06   he leaves and that's the moment when [TS]

00:14:08   they when they come alive and I think [TS]

00:14:10   that's a really interesting choice like [TS]

00:14:12   look we need to establish these choices [TS]

00:14:13   being toys that are played with their [TS]

00:14:15   you know this is their job essentially [TS]

00:14:17   they're not like magical creatures that [TS]

00:14:20   live in this boy's room their toys who [TS]

00:14:22   come alive when he's not around right [TS]

00:14:25   when it feels like they do that to sort [TS]

00:14:27   of you know to eat you get used to the [TS]

00:14:30   toys that you recognize like Potato Head [TS]

00:14:32   & and all that but but it sort of eases [TS]

00:14:35   you into going oh this is woody and he's [TS]

00:14:37   also a toy in this universe and they all [TS]

00:14:40   know him too he's famous and you don't [TS]

00:14:43   know what you're going to know that [TS]

00:14:44   opening sequence reminds me of like [TS]

00:14:46   watching that again i was impressed all [TS]

00:14:48   over again because computer animation [TS]

00:14:50   even have pictures on computer animation [TS]

00:14:53   had a certain like sort of camera work [TS]

00:14:57   style where it was a lot of static shots [TS]

00:15:00   even things of you know like even a [TS]

00:15:02   little little buddy called a little [TS]

00:15:04   light what's called the Illuma looks [TS]

00:15:07   alamo jr. look so luxe ok whatever the [TS]

00:15:10   short that he was in chasing the ball [TS]

00:15:12   around like it a lot of like the cameras [TS]

00:15:13   pullbacks kind of a wide you see what's [TS]

00:15:15   going on or whatever at the beginning of [TS]

00:15:17   toy story is cinematic the camera moves [TS]

00:15:20   there are close-ups there are lots of [TS]

00:15:22   pee like it's it's active it is it is [TS]

00:15:25   like it is like a real lot like instead [TS]

00:15:28   of like oh here is I'm going to show you [TS]

00:15:29   a rendered cube and the cameras gonna be [TS]

00:15:31   entirely stationary the whole time maybe [TS]

00:15:32   a light will move like it immediately [TS]

00:15:34   dissuades you of any notion this is [TS]

00:15:37   going to look like demos from siggraph [TS]

00:15:38   right it's going this is going to be a [TS]

00:15:40   movie [TS]

00:15:41   and that opening sequence of the playing [TS]

00:15:43   is really tight like it's come together [TS]

00:15:45   quickly out it's fun it's interesting in [TS]

00:15:47   the camera moves like it is a great way [TS]

00:15:49   to pull people into this movie like if [TS]

00:15:52   if there was any fear like oh well [TS]

00:15:54   people go to watch visit like this is my [TS]

00:15:56   big thing with toy stores like a [TS]

00:15:57   computer animated movie i'm so excited [TS]

00:15:58   exist like when people go to watch it [TS]

00:16:00   you're ring your fingers you wring your [TS]

00:16:02   hands like oh I don't know if like if [TS]

00:16:03   they'll just think it's kind of too you [TS]

00:16:05   know within 30 seconds the audience has [TS]

00:16:08   forgotten the computers have anything to [TS]

00:16:09   do with this movie because it is [TS]

00:16:11   familiar to them and I think it's done [TS]

00:16:13   in a way like a lot of the shots they [TS]

00:16:15   did the reason they look so amazing it's [TS]

00:16:17   because they have these sort of the the [TS]

00:16:19   truth visual truthfulness of live action [TS]

00:16:22   but with the sort of visual style of [TS]

00:16:24   animation and that it you wouldn't do [TS]

00:16:26   all these dramatic camera moves in in [TS]

00:16:28   cell animation because it's very [TS]

00:16:29   difficult to duels perspective changes [TS]

00:16:31   correctly and deal with all the [TS]

00:16:33   different planes of motion and not make [TS]

00:16:34   it look like things sliding over here [TS]

00:16:35   it's really difficult to do you could do [TS]

00:16:37   a live-action fine [TS]

00:16:38   this is a weird combination of both of [TS]

00:16:40   them that is like comforting instead of [TS]

00:16:42   been looking Ali into both I feel like [TS]

00:16:43   it's comfort from two different levels [TS]

00:16:45   come from the cartoon world where you [TS]

00:16:47   accept like the colors and textures and [TS]

00:16:48   everything and comfort from the [TS]

00:16:50   live-action world and watching it again [TS]

00:16:52   despite all like the not-so-great [TS]

00:16:54   textures on things in the limitations of [TS]

00:16:56   the rendering and everything just the [TS]

00:16:58   the dynamics of the opening scene the [TS]

00:17:00   content and continue to rest of the [TS]

00:17:01   movie we are again it's timeless it [TS]

00:17:03   really pulls you in and makes you accept [TS]

00:17:05   this as a movie first and as a computer [TS]

00:17:07   exercise second [TS]

00:17:09   yeah it's I I think that's a great point [TS]

00:17:10   about them being able to bring to bear a [TS]

00:17:14   century almost of film language [TS]

00:17:18   live-action film language that a lot of [TS]

00:17:21   animated movies could basically not do [TS]

00:17:25   or had to do very little of and cheat i [TS]

00:17:27   mean i remember there's that seen Beauty [TS]

00:17:29   and the Beast where they did the 3d [TS]

00:17:30   animation spin in the dance you know it [TS]

00:17:33   over in the ballroom right and at that [TS]

00:17:35   moment ago what am I seeing here right [TS]

00:17:38   because this is a move from another kind [TS]

00:17:40   of movie and and yeah the the computer [TS]

00:17:43   animation in that first scene they are [TS]

00:17:46   saying look we're shooting this like a [TS]

00:17:47   movie this is not going to be like the [TS]

00:17:49   other kind of animate what you think the [TS]

00:17:51   language of animation is this is going [TS]

00:17:53   to be the language of [TS]

00:17:54   a regular movie where they have cameras [TS]

00:17:56   and they move them around and they have [TS]

00:17:58   different lenses like they use different [TS]

00:17:59   yak virtual different virtual lenses for [TS]

00:18:01   it when you're looking through the [TS]

00:18:02   binoculars is different shot they have [TS]

00:18:04   had the zoom zoom out through the window [TS]

00:18:06   and then back in they have the smash [TS]

00:18:08   zoom in on the people when you know they [TS]

00:18:10   so he's at it again he kicks the the car [TS]

00:18:12   off the end like that the that aspect of [TS]

00:18:15   it was novel there's a little bit of [TS]

00:18:17   lens flare early on are actually late [TS]

00:18:19   when the when when the magnifying [TS]

00:18:21   reflecting yeah yeah [TS]

00:18:23   time for a pause for one of our sponsors [TS]

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00:18:48   month these items include everything [TS]

00:18:50   from Texas tan leather coasters to nice [TS]

00:18:53   sturdy writing materials oh the pencils [TS]

00:18:56   I've got one here this is a beautiful [TS]

00:18:58   pencil with a really neat eraser to [TS]

00:19:01   lounging around pants that they call [TS]

00:19:04   trousers because they are proper they [TS]

00:19:08   have bomber jacket style elastic cuffs [TS]

00:19:09   until the pants are actually insanely [TS]

00:19:11   comfortable and great way better than [TS]

00:19:14   alternatives like athletic shorts this [TS]

00:19:15   is one of the things I really like about [TS]

00:19:16   need is they provide a level of curation [TS]

00:19:20   they're finding interesting products but [TS]

00:19:22   they also have some class and style and [TS]

00:19:25   as a gentleman who is lacking in style [TS]

00:19:29   and class i like it when a friend and [TS]

00:19:33   need is a friend indeed gives me their [TS]

00:19:36   advice because they know more about this [TS]

00:19:38   stuff than I do and they say you know [TS]

00:19:39   don't wear those basketball shorts [TS]

00:19:41   around I've got these really nice [TS]

00:19:42   trousers that you can wear at home and [TS]

00:19:44   lounge around and here's a Henley to put [TS]

00:19:46   on when you get home after work [TS]

00:19:47   this is the sort of stuff that need [TS]

00:19:49   provides with high style and class but [TS]

00:19:52   you don't have to be mr. high-fashion [TS]

00:19:53   for need to have something for you I [TS]

00:19:55   promise take a look at need edition [TS]

00:19:58   dot-com place an order for absolutely [TS]

00:20:01   any item in the need edition store and [TS]

00:20:04   then drop them online at hello at need [TS]

00:20:07   edition com [TS]

00:20:08   just tell them in an email that the [TS]

00:20:09   incomparable sent you and you'll get [TS]

00:20:11   twenty-five percent off your next order [TS]

00:20:12   along with free extra stuff that will be [TS]

00:20:15   sent to you as their gift from us so [TS]

00:20:17   need is a really clever idea they've got [TS]

00:20:19   these monthly selections that they make [TS]

00:20:21   their out there actively finding [TS]

00:20:23   interesting and cool products to bring [TS]

00:20:25   them to you and like I said give [TS]

00:20:27   yourself maybe a little bit of an [TS]

00:20:28   upgrade because these people know what [TS]

00:20:30   they're doing so check them out again [TS]

00:20:32   need edition dot-com and thank you so [TS]

00:20:36   much to need for sponsoring the [TS]

00:20:38   incomparable so I'm let's see what else [TS]

00:20:41   i I've got a I've got a really bizarre [TS]

00:20:43   point that I want to make because I'm [TS]

00:20:44   the host and I get to make this is our [TS]

00:20:45   point at the very first time we see them [TS]

00:20:47   playing the the checkerboard write the [TS]

00:20:49   check report comes out and what he's not [TS]

00:20:51   he's too busy indicator the checkers [TS]

00:20:53   move a little [TS]

00:20:54   yeah but here's the bizarre thing that [TS]

00:20:56   the checkerboard is set up with the the [TS]

00:20:58   seam the fold of the checkerboard going [TS]

00:21:01   like right down the middle between the [TS]

00:21:03   players who does that who does it does [TS]

00:21:05   is it is it just me who uses that is [TS]

00:21:07   like the border from my side and your [TS]

00:21:09   side every time later in the movie [TS]

00:21:10   that's how the checkerboard is laid down [TS]

00:21:12   but in that first scene it's going down [TS]

00:21:13   the middle [TS]

00:21:14   it's weird isn't it says it doesn't [TS]

00:21:16   allow you to flip the checkerboard over [TS]

00:21:19   when you get angry because that's the [TS]

00:21:21   point is that slinky dog setup that [TS]

00:21:22   bored i love the is arguable that make [TS]

00:21:25   you imagine what it will be [TS]

00:21:26   what it must be like to try and animate [TS]

00:21:27   that that must have been so crazy thing [TS]

00:21:29   that really grabbed me this time [TS]

00:21:30   watching it watch it one and a half [TS]

00:21:32   times today partly with my kid who had [TS]

00:21:34   watched in awhile i'm amazed at like you [TS]

00:21:37   know like i say i feel like i can [TS]

00:21:38   overlook so much stuff about you know a [TS]

00:21:41   lot of its super creepy but like how [TS]

00:21:43   quickly they characterize all the toys [TS]

00:21:47   like you get like all of those [TS]

00:21:48   characters was just so elegantly like in [TS]

00:21:53   the opening set up after you know the [TS]

00:21:55   kind of move in on woody on the bed and [TS]

00:21:58   he opened his eyes he starts looking [TS]

00:21:59   around us all is clear and and like all [TS]

00:22:02   of that the tentative movement of the RC [TS]

00:22:04   car coming out of the closet like it's [TS]

00:22:06   just amazing in that space if I don't [TS]

00:22:07   know what probably 90 seconds [TS]

00:22:09   how many how many toys from our [TS]

00:22:11   childhood get a character that we can [TS]

00:22:14   understand in about a minute [TS]

00:22:15   you obviously you get that that's you [TS]

00:22:17   know I don rickles in the hockey puck [TS]

00:22:19   joke and everything but I thought it was [TS]

00:22:20   it's just so well [TS]

00:22:21   done it like you get this collection of [TS]

00:22:23   probably i would guess probably at least [TS]

00:22:25   a dozen characters you get them that [TS]

00:22:27   fast and it sets the tone so quickly [TS]

00:22:30   that like this is what we can expect [TS]

00:22:31   they try to do that in live-action [TS]

00:22:32   movies all the time like you can see you [TS]

00:22:34   can see the wire as you can see the [TS]

00:22:35   strings happening like where there's an [TS]

00:22:37   ensemble movie and they have to have the [TS]

00:22:38   opening scene here's the wisecracking [TS]

00:22:40   friend right and like I think the main [TS]

00:22:42   difference is not so much in the skill [TS]

00:22:44   of introducing because autumn always [TS]

00:22:45   know they need to do that we need to get [TS]

00:22:46   you like this is the guy who's timid [TS]

00:22:48   this is the aggressive jerk guy this is [TS]

00:22:50   the wise ass like you gotta do all that [TS]

00:22:51   stuff right [TS]

00:22:52   the difference is that the characters in [TS]

00:22:55   this movie are better than the normal [TS]

00:22:56   like ensemble characters and like [TS]

00:22:58   they're more interesting you know that [TS]

00:22:59   maybe it's because they're dinosaurs [TS]

00:23:01   like maybe that as an angle you can't do [TS]

00:23:03   like you've got a mr. Potato Head with [TS]

00:23:04   the particular you know it like there is [TS]

00:23:06   a combination of which toy they are and [TS]

00:23:08   which address they have and whether [TS]

00:23:09   those two things measure don't mesh or [TS]

00:23:11   you know or whatever but I think they're [TS]

00:23:13   that they're just good characters night [TS]

00:23:16   so they're good introducing them and [TS]

00:23:17   when I do introduce them they're all [TS]

00:23:19   like likable or relatable or funny or [TS]

00:23:22   you know all three and that generally [TS]

00:23:24   that you can understand their their [TS]

00:23:25   motivation very quickly you understand [TS]

00:23:27   what is that they want you understand [TS]

00:23:28   that which you know i mean that's such [TS]

00:23:30   an obvious thing people talk about you [TS]

00:23:31   understand that Rex wants to be a scary [TS]

00:23:34   dinosaur you know it's just a I think [TS]

00:23:36   that's that that's a harder trick then [TS]

00:23:38   it looks like given the resources and [TS]

00:23:41   constraints that they had I think it's [TS]

00:23:43   great that they pulled it off and [TS]

00:23:44   address sweden television show the whole [TS]

00:23:46   thing is like the humor if it shows is [TS]

00:23:48   based on I know that character and when [TS]

00:23:50   that character says something it's [TS]

00:23:52   because I know what that character is [TS]

00:23:53   like that the thing they said it's funny [TS]

00:23:55   not just because someone said if you [TS]

00:23:56   just insert an extra set line it's not [TS]

00:23:58   funny it's funny because I know what [TS]

00:24:00   this character is like so all the jokes [TS]

00:24:02   and toy story rely on you establishing [TS]

00:24:04   what these characters are liking and [TS]

00:24:05   what they want out of you know their [TS]

00:24:08   life and then when they say a particular [TS]

00:24:10   line it's not just that you can't [TS]

00:24:11   arbitrarily assign the jokes to the [TS]

00:24:13   things and so very quickly they have to [TS]

00:24:15   get you up to like season 3 of joss [TS]

00:24:16   whedon television show where you're like [TS]

00:24:18   you know the characters and the lines r [TS]

00:24:21   RS are matched set and not just [TS]

00:24:23   arbitrary you have to buy into the [TS]

00:24:25   characters of the joke dork but there it [TS]

00:24:26   is a Gilbert and Sullivan sort of [TS]

00:24:28   construction though where you have the [TS]

00:24:31   for the two pairs of leads but then you [TS]

00:24:33   also have the chorus [TS]

00:24:34   members were their members of these the [TS]

00:24:37   of the this toy team are people who talk [TS]

00:24:40   with one collective voice about hey [TS]

00:24:42   we're really really fascinated by this [TS]

00:24:44   really cool new toy [TS]

00:24:45   hey now we're going to turn on the [TS]

00:24:46   person that we that usually used to [TS]

00:24:48   think of as our leader now we're going [TS]

00:24:49   to collectively think of this character [TS]

00:24:51   a different way again and they put are [TS]

00:24:54   they dump all of the new wants into [TS]

00:24:56   those two leads and that was the thing [TS]

00:24:58   that really impressed me the most about [TS]

00:25:00   the characterization hear that they were [TS]

00:25:02   maybe this is part of the leftover of [TS]

00:25:05   having spent the the screenwriters [TS]

00:25:07   having spent so many years developing [TS]

00:25:09   this mean-spirited woody and then [TS]

00:25:11   realizing that was the wrong way to go [TS]

00:25:13   but still knowing that wasn't it fun to [TS]

00:25:15   have this cowboy character that really [TS]

00:25:17   could be a jerk and I really do think [TS]

00:25:19   they kind of made that part of the stew [TS]

00:25:21   of what his character of saying that he [TS]

00:25:24   could be this guy if things started to [TS]

00:25:27   go really really bad form and that a lot [TS]

00:25:29   of the reason why he's such a kind [TS]

00:25:31   person he's got the sunny disposition is [TS]

00:25:33   because he is on top of the world [TS]

00:25:35   nothing has ever tried to disrupt this [TS]

00:25:38   pleasant experience that he has as [TS]

00:25:40   somebody who is completely in control of [TS]

00:25:42   his own destiny and as soon as you throw [TS]

00:25:44   in that random feature in there where no [TS]

00:25:46   he might have to actually listen to [TS]

00:25:48   other people for a change and realizing [TS]

00:25:52   that the people who quote follow him on [TS]

00:25:54   quote aren't necessarily following him [TS]

00:25:56   because of his leadership either [TS]

00:25:57   that's when you start to see [TS]

00:25:59   mean-spirited woody kind of come through [TS]

00:26:01   and for those moments you really wonder [TS]

00:26:04   yes he did know he didn't read push push [TS]

00:26:06   buzz but boy was he thinking about it [TS]

00:26:09   was his mind thinking that all would be [TS]

00:26:11   so easy to do it and there are people [TS]

00:26:13   looking at me right now could i get away [TS]

00:26:15   with it [TS]

00:26:15   that's what really impressed me the [TS]

00:26:16   first time I saw this movie what I like [TS]

00:26:18   about that that decision is it's it's [TS]

00:26:22   woody making a bad decision but not me [TS]

00:26:25   not a super evil decision what he's [TS]

00:26:27   trying to you can fix it right he wants [TS]

00:26:29   to go to the pizza planet with with andy [TS]

00:26:31   so he wants to knock buzz behind the bed [TS]

00:26:34   so that he's temporarily lost just [TS]

00:26:36   enough time that and he brings him to [TS]

00:26:39   pizza planet but then it goes all wrong [TS]

00:26:41   and he ends up being responsible for [TS]

00:26:42   buzz being you know out the bushes and [TS]

00:26:45   and so it's a language [TS]

00:26:47   kind of Justice they would have meted [TS]

00:26:48   out he succeeded it just doing that [TS]

00:26:50   instead of knocking about the window it [TS]

00:26:52   would have been something slightly less [TS]

00:26:54   awful than lynching maybe like you know [TS]

00:26:55   beating him with mr. potato head i think [TS]

00:26:58   they would have thrown all over there [TS]

00:27:00   are all of their support behind buzz is [TS]

00:27:02   the new leader and exactly we want a lot [TS]

00:27:04   of making it look like an accident [TS]

00:27:05   though I didn't push from behind you [TS]

00:27:07   just want to fall in that crevice if he [TS]

00:27:09   had succeeded in yes then what he would [TS]

00:27:11   have been on the path toward ultimate [TS]

00:27:13   evil and he would have ended up being [TS]

00:27:14   the dictator of the room and and and he [TS]

00:27:17   would hear it wasn't dictated him like [TS]

00:27:19   that was it well position the beginning [TS]

00:27:20   was that he considered himself smarter [TS]

00:27:22   than all the other toys but practically [TS]

00:27:24   speaking he probably was he was he was [TS]

00:27:25   sort of condescending to all the other [TS]

00:27:27   toes he was like a magnanimous leader [TS]

00:27:29   but as long as you want everyone [TS]

00:27:30   acknowledges that I'm the best I'm the [TS]

00:27:32   smartest everyone serves my needs does [TS]

00:27:33   what i want what i wanted and slinky was [TS]

00:27:35   kind of like his little toady who was [TS]

00:27:37   like yes what do you do whatever you [TS]

00:27:38   want right and the the way that we came [TS]

00:27:40   to know later doesn't exist in this [TS]

00:27:42   movie until the end were to presume like [TS]

00:27:45   this is this is his ark for this movie [TS]

00:27:46   and in a lot of ways you would feel like [TS]

00:27:48   in toy story 2 is like where does he [TS]

00:27:50   have the go-go's what he had his arc [TS]

00:27:51   where he could have gone off one way but [TS]

00:27:53   he ended up being like he learned from [TS]

00:27:54   this experience and learns not to hold [TS]

00:27:56   on so tightly to his thing is being the [TS]

00:27:58   most important coy and share Andy with [TS]

00:28:00   buzz and to realize the in all the stuff [TS]

00:28:02   like but then where do you go from there [TS]

00:28:04   and that's why tourists or two is which [TS]

00:28:05   we'll talk about another podcast it's [TS]

00:28:07   pretty incredible achievement to take [TS]

00:28:09   that further and make what I think is [TS]

00:28:11   possibly even a better movie than this [TS]

00:28:12   one but in this movie has a very [TS]

00:28:14   straightforward arc and for there to be [TS]

00:28:16   a and an interesting RQ can't start off [TS]

00:28:18   as a nice guy who just ends up like one [TS]

00:28:20   of those you know inconvenient [TS]

00:28:23   coincidences and like misunderstandings [TS]

00:28:26   that he was always a nice guy the whole [TS]

00:28:27   time was just a misunderstanding boy [TS]

00:28:30   darn it when bad things happen to good [TS]

00:28:32   people he has to start off as actually [TS]

00:28:34   not that great for him to get somewhere [TS]

00:28:36   right [TS]

00:28:37   he wasn't exactly dictator though this [TS]

00:28:39   really was a situation where everybody [TS]

00:28:41   who's following him have pretty much [TS]

00:28:43   abdicated their own responsibility for [TS]

00:28:45   their own destinies they're not they [TS]

00:28:47   don't seek leadership they're very very [TS]

00:28:49   happy to have someone else do the share [TS]

00:28:51   unformed exactly is the sheriff and so [TS]

00:28:53   he's the sheriff of the room full of the [TS]

00:28:55   toys when you have to assume that a [TS]

00:28:58   certain percentage of them have [TS]

00:28:59   a seething resentment for him as well [TS]

00:29:01   because surely at least one of those [TS]

00:29:03   toys potato has man was Andy's favorite [TS]

00:29:06   at some point we can get something [TS]

00:29:07   Stoppard play the potato head is [TS]

00:29:10   definitely there there's a whole series [TS]

00:29:11   of dramas that could be written about [TS]

00:29:13   the incident the toilet is that brief [TS]

00:29:15   preschool period when when potato head [TS]

00:29:17   was Andy's favorite toy and then then [TS]

00:29:19   woody and now he's just the the knockoff [TS]

00:29:22   villain and in the the woody story right [TS]

00:29:25   and you so you get that to that he's the [TS]

00:29:26   one he's playing the bad guy and what [TS]

00:29:28   he's always the good guy and what is so [TS]

00:29:30   great and there's jealousy there i just [TS]

00:29:33   wanted to say and I know this is an [TS]

00:29:35   unpopular opinion but I do not like the [TS]

00:29:37   randy newman songs [TS]

00:29:38   okay so I'm gonna I'm gonna actually [TS]

00:29:40   that's where I was that's where I was [TS]

00:29:42   headed after one topic but let's talk [TS]

00:29:44   about it now I think his score is very [TS]

00:29:46   very good i should say that there are [TS]

00:29:48   three songs in this movie and I wanted [TS]

00:29:50   to talk about them because we've got [TS]

00:29:52   strength we've got you've got a friend [TS]

00:29:54   in me we've got strange things and then [TS]

00:29:56   we've got I will go sailing no more [TS]

00:29:59   right I'm like that and and I'm [TS]

00:30:02   fascinated by this because to me this is [TS]

00:30:05   the clearest example of the and maybe [TS]

00:30:08   i'm wrong but but I read it as a clear [TS]

00:30:10   example of the the creative tension [TS]

00:30:13   between pixar and disney and between [TS]

00:30:15   what an animated movie is supposed to do [TS]

00:30:17   and what pixar wants to do because i [TS]

00:30:21   feel like all of the jeffrey katzenberg [TS]

00:30:23   successful disney animated film revivals [TS]

00:30:27   were musicals that people singing songs [TS]

00:30:29   and so you get the sense that disney was [TS]

00:30:32   like you gotta have songs [TS]

00:30:33   hey Randy Newman use him he's good you [TS]

00:30:35   gotta have some stick some songs in [TS]

00:30:36   there and they're like I don't know and [TS]

00:30:39   so they they're in the movie but they're [TS]

00:30:42   not sung by characters they're just sung [TS]

00:30:44   by Randy Newman in the movie I might [TS]

00:30:46   actually like them better if they were [TS]

00:30:47   sung by somebody other than Randy new [TS]

00:30:49   one and and two of them and two of them [TS]

00:30:52   are over [TS]

00:30:54   I mean that strange things song that is [TS]

00:30:57   an eighties style Phil montage if I have [TS]

00:31:00   ever seen one again it and it's just [TS]

00:31:04   it's a little weird it's a little almost [TS]

00:31:06   like uncanny valley for movie music [TS]

00:31:08   where it's like they wanted it to be a [TS]

00:31:10   cat Sandberg you know Disney [TS]

00:31:12   musical and pixar was like well we'll [TS]

00:31:14   put songs in it but that's it and and I [TS]

00:31:17   find it's not I i think i think it's not [TS]

00:31:19   one of the strongest parts of this movie [TS]

00:31:20   I I it they'll bug me so much and I [TS]

00:31:23   actually think that when we talked about [TS]

00:31:24   Torri toy story 2 that the the one song [TS]

00:31:28   in there is incredibly effective but [TS]

00:31:31   here it's like well we gotta run song [TS]

00:31:34   somewhere so we'll do a little comic [TS]

00:31:35   montage and run run song with that [TS]

00:31:37   didn't you love that my time so I got it [TS]

00:31:39   yeah that's when the guys my bed and its [TS]

00:31:41   benefits buzz lightyear sheets that is [TS]

00:31:43   awesome it would be a better montage [TS]

00:31:45   without randy newman and singing that he [TS]

00:31:47   is i just ate a bunch of skittles and I [TS]

00:31:49   have a sugar bubble in the back I don't [TS]

00:31:51   think Randy Newman like it [TS]

00:31:53   in this context like I think this is [TS]

00:31:55   this is the movie where Randy Newman [TS]

00:31:56   fits like I don't accept random songs in [TS]

00:31:59   the movie they already where he fits the [TS]

00:32:01   best but I don't think he fits [TS]

00:32:03   I've always had the same complaint about [TS]

00:32:05   this forever he wrote one song and use [TS]

00:32:08   the exact same song in three different [TS]

00:32:10   movies because you got you got a friend [TS]

00:32:12   in me you've gotta i love to see you [TS]

00:32:14   smile from Parenthood and then he gave [TS]

00:32:16   if I didn't have you from monster [TS]

00:32:18   monsters inc I they're the exact same [TS]

00:32:20   song strange strange things you can play [TS]

00:32:23   against I love LA yeah you got a GED [TS]

00:32:26   mountaintop acosto randy newman you know [TS]

00:32:29   3-pack you got a friend in me doesn't [TS]

00:32:31   even have a real melody for the verses [TS]

00:32:33   for crying out loud [TS]

00:32:35   some of the guys might be a little bit [TS]

00:32:37   smarter and cooler and taller than I do [TS]

00:32:40   maybe I guess not sure i'll get back to [TS]

00:32:45   you on that [TS]

00:32:46   ready Newman has like a mr. Potato Head [TS]

00:32:48   song where it's the same body just keeps [TS]

00:32:51   like swapping out different eyes and [TS]

00:32:53   hats on to it and that doesn't bother [TS]

00:32:56   with pot that you can change paul and [TS]

00:32:59   storm do a whole thing of you know Randy [TS]

00:33:01   Newman's not only lord of the rings [TS]

00:33:03   that's the same in the melody that is [TS]

00:33:05   exactly the same in all of their randy [TS]

00:33:07   newman songs but they do Randy Newman [TS]

00:33:08   song for all these different movies and [TS]

00:33:10   he's so brilliant 2i however i read a [TS]

00:33:12   blog post about this like I think after [TS]

00:33:14   the set the second time he used that [TS]

00:33:16   song say that she's mean and also all [TS]

00:33:18   the music that he's right for these [TS]

00:33:19   movies is pressed the same he's just [TS]

00:33:20   like that my most interesting guy and [TS]

00:33:22   everybody who look who got into randy [TS]

00:33:24   newman during the seventies when [TS]

00:33:26   made all these brilliant albums at like [TS]

00:33:29   how to cut it had a go at me and I've [TS]

00:33:31   had realized oh ok i didn't realize that [TS]

00:33:33   he done something before and around [TS]

00:33:35   short people because all I knew is this [TS]

00:33:37   again this mr. Potato Head solid keep [TS]

00:33:39   running and of course it was exactly [TS]

00:33:40   like all of this stuff [TS]

00:33:42   no no it said you needed a couple songs [TS]

00:33:45   when the muppet show he he's easy i [TS]

00:33:48   can't remember the name of the album but [TS]

00:33:49   he did he did a real recorded his two [TS]

00:33:51   most famous albums from the seventies [TS]

00:33:53   with like new orchestrations and it's [TS]

00:33:55   like wow why didn't you just like light [TS]

00:33:58   of Pixar and hope they hadn't heard this [TS]

00:34:00   album you recorded in 1975 and put that [TS]

00:34:03   in the movie if you if you're going to [TS]

00:34:05   laze your way out of this laser with a [TS]

00:34:07   great song I don't think I don't think I [TS]

00:34:09   can blame randy newman here I think that [TS]

00:34:12   Randy Newman has a bunch of different [TS]

00:34:13   cells i like i like randy newman but I [TS]

00:34:16   feel like what happened here was he got [TS]

00:34:17   direction to do that little you know [TS]

00:34:20   gentle ragtime anything you do that [TS]

00:34:22   hockey ragtime Orleans that New Orleans [TS]

00:34:24   yeah right he grew up in New Orleans and [TS]

00:34:27   do that that's what we want we want that [TS]

00:34:29   it's like right under the toys that take [TS]

00:34:31   over your spot on the bed sometimes [TS]

00:34:34   yeah i guess with dead lelu rigged oh I [TS]

00:34:41   lived he in the whole of what was the [TS]

00:34:45   third song so the first one is you've [TS]

00:34:47   got a friend in me I will go sailing [TS]

00:34:49   when I was a little more christ-like [TS]

00:34:51   very good song but if he's really way he [TS]

00:34:54   sings it makes my ears bleed [TS]

00:34:56   hey I could drop the third song because [TS]

00:34:58   i don't want to give up the first one [TS]

00:34:59   because it makes sense in the context of [TS]

00:35:00   the movie even though it's silly and [TS]

00:35:02   slight right [TS]

00:35:03   the second 1i love that montage and you [TS]

00:35:05   need music to go behind a montage and [TS]

00:35:07   i'm using is the third 1i could take [TS]

00:35:09   your leave I love 11 eighties montage [TS]

00:35:11   with that is that that is the Sarah [TS]

00:35:12   McLachlan song from toy story 2 which [TS]

00:35:14   they wisely had randy newman not saying [TS]

00:35:17   right and that makes sense in the [TS]

00:35:18   context that movie because it's supposed [TS]

00:35:19   to be about Jesse right but you can [TS]

00:35:21   understand why that got left behind yes [TS]

00:35:23   but but i think actually head I will go [TS]

00:35:25   sailing no more been sung by somebody [TS]

00:35:27   with a little more [TS]

00:35:28   emo residential facility i think it [TS]

00:35:32   would have worked very well but in this [TS]

00:35:33   case it's not so much that ran composers [TS]

00:35:35   talking and shouting but there is there [TS]

00:35:37   is scoring to the movie in the beginning [TS]

00:35:39   like there's that the Toy Story music [TS]

00:35:40   like the instrumental like but and then [TS]

00:35:43   everybody would you leave us those songs [TS]

00:35:44   work was instrumental music is its [TS]

00:35:47   frequently the same motifs and themes [TS]

00:35:48   from the pop songs pop up in the score [TS]

00:35:50   and they work really nicely there so I [TS]

00:35:52   like the work you did with the score [TS]

00:35:53   I just the pop songs do not work at all [TS]

00:35:55   for me would have been happier with that [TS]

00:35:57   with something else or somebody else [TS]

00:35:59   singing it for another brief break for [TS]

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00:38:10   uncomfortable so what i wanted to [TS]

00:38:12   mention also in the context of the [TS]

00:38:14   especially the strange things montage [TS]

00:38:16   which is a funny montage yeah I like [TS]

00:38:18   these movies too so of course i love [TS]

00:38:20   montage gotta have a montage there [TS]

00:38:22   should be more montages some so it's [TS]

00:38:24   it's there's this there's the sequence [TS]

00:38:26   in in quick succession where where he [TS]

00:38:30   gets buzzed and I'm fascinated by it [TS]

00:38:32   because what we see during that montage [TS]

00:38:35   is this tension between the sci-fi [TS]

00:38:38   trappings of buzz and the Western stuff [TS]

00:38:42   of woody and I when you look at that [TS]

00:38:45   just like all of a sudden woody feels [TS]

00:38:48   cold because Western as a genre feels [TS]

00:38:51   cold and and outmoded and maybe a little [TS]

00:38:54   kid and he suddenly this new sci-fi [TS]

00:38:57   stuff is really exciting and fun and and [TS]

00:39:00   and as this is all going on and i really [TS]

00:39:04   i really liked how they did that it's [TS]

00:39:06   not just that buzz is new it's like [TS]

00:39:09   everything buzz represents in the [TS]

00:39:12   universe and lasers and spaceships and [TS]

00:39:14   stuff like that as opposed to the you [TS]

00:39:17   know dem old cowboy sherrif and and and [TS]

00:39:21   the music is playing while that's [TS]

00:39:22   happening and i really i really liked [TS]

00:39:24   how it's it's not just that it's this [TS]

00:39:26   it's the whole it's like one sean were [TS]

00:39:27   coming in and elbowing the other one out [TS]

00:39:29   and saying your old forget like and like [TS]

00:39:31   John said with the way the kids actually [TS]

00:39:32   play with toys i not only was it a very [TS]

00:39:35   efficient bit of storytelling you know [TS]

00:39:37   to show his to show [TS]

00:39:39   first of all how buzz is bonding with [TS]

00:39:42   all the new people showing Rex how to [TS]

00:39:43   roar and stuff like that right also [TS]

00:39:45   obviously like the moment when he runs [TS]

00:39:47   in the closet with his woody jammies and [TS]

00:39:50   then runs out with his wonderful [TS]

00:39:51   homemade was like your car [TS]

00:39:53   that I I think that's extremely well [TS]

00:39:55   done because it gets to the [TS]

00:39:56   capriciousness of little kids like a [TS]

00:39:58   little kid is going to change their [TS]

00:39:59   preferences like like so fast you you [TS]

00:40:02   would even you wouldn't believe that [TS]

00:40:04   would he ever meant anything [TS]

00:40:05   well although having having had kids [TS]

00:40:07   when I first saw this movie I didn't [TS]

00:40:08   have kids and having had kids now and [TS]

00:40:09   watching and i'm fascinated by the fact [TS]

00:40:11   that i turned my wife last night while [TS]

00:40:12   we were watching this and I said but you [TS]

00:40:13   know woody what he's been around with [TS]

00:40:17   that kid for a long time [TS]

00:40:18   buzz is a a cheap plastic space toy and [TS]

00:40:22   he's gonna get played with for like two [TS]

00:40:24   weeks and then he's gonna like his wings [TS]

00:40:26   are going to snap off and he's never [TS]

00:40:27   gonna get played with it until they had [TS]

00:40:29   accidentally removed the battery that we [TS]

00:40:30   exactly when I don't know why you're so [TS]

00:40:33   easily the hotel and rental until the [TS]

00:40:36   incident until the remote control the [TS]

00:40:38   living room goes dead and the dad says [TS]

00:40:39   where do we have double a batteries ok [TS]

00:40:41   i'll ever knows I have to make one point [TS]

00:40:43   here [TS]

00:40:43   what's sad yeah oh oh there's a lot of [TS]

00:40:46   thought on this [TS]

00:40:47   the the unspoken absence of a dad the [TS]

00:40:50   other thing i notice it in the same pain [TS]

00:40:52   is what he has no gun [TS]

00:40:53   we're so god Randy and he has no dad [TS]

00:40:56   both not reference both not important [TS]

00:40:58   other than that matchstick fitting for [TS]

00:41:00   the parallels been a lot of scholarship [TS]

00:41:02   on this I'm sure also the fact that he's [TS]

00:41:04   wearing Jesse's hat so what he has no [TS]

00:41:06   gun i think it's obvious because they [TS]

00:41:08   don't want him to be a toy that pulls [TS]

00:41:09   out a gun right there constantly all the [TS]

00:41:11   kids would ever do is make the gun going [TS]

00:41:13   too well and issue any toy it's got one [TS]

00:41:15   of those little tiny things like that [TS]

00:41:16   you totally lose that right that had [TS]

00:41:18   been so lost by now right that would not [TS]

00:41:21   unless it was so do his head or [TS]

00:41:22   something and but the lack of the dad i [TS]

00:41:24   think is a nice nod to you know to the [TS]

00:41:28   reality of families in America [TS]

00:41:29   essentially like that that other people [TS]

00:41:31   don't have that before i read the [TS]

00:41:32   scholarship I had always assumed his dad [TS]

00:41:34   had died and in my in my to quote Erica [TS]

00:41:38   my in my headcanon yeah I always I [TS]

00:41:40   always assumed his dad died and it was [TS]

00:41:42   his dad's toy like these are some meat [TS]

00:41:45   yeah alright well that will if we assume [TS]

00:41:47   that dad has has died i think they went [TS]

00:41:49   out for cigarettes and never came out [TS]

00:41:51   and we look at Molly who is maybe what [TS]

00:41:53   like six months old dad is fairly [TS]

00:41:55   recently gone so I i yes kids running [TS]

00:41:59   around last I some he's with that maybe [TS]

00:42:03   with it [TS]

00:42:04   weekends with them with other toys dad [TS]

00:42:06   doesn't even show up for Christmas [TS]

00:42:07   the moving feels like a divorce but I [TS]

00:42:09   think well I don't get a scholarship [TS]

00:42:11   that's that's headcanon but a but but [TS]

00:42:13   there's there's definitely there's [TS]

00:42:15   there's there's always information and [TS]

00:42:17   getting ahead of myself as I i I'm a [TS]

00:42:19   bigger fan of 2 and 3 by sonu so what I [TS]

00:42:21   what I will say that what we're watching [TS]

00:42:23   it uh uh my wife said get-go single mom [TS]

00:42:27   moving to a nice big house right because [TS]

00:42:30   they move the end up moving to a much [TS]

00:42:32   bigger house with which they've got a [TS]

00:42:33   they got a new baby and currently seems [TS]

00:42:36   pretty channel the Son and the daughter [TS]

00:42:37   are sharing the room right i think maybe [TS]

00:42:40   mom has polished off dad and the be [TS]

00:42:42   exactly insurance money which exactly [TS]

00:42:44   which is why she's riding in the front [TS]

00:42:45   seat in a front-facing child's area in [TS]

00:42:49   the backyard and they have to go to a [TS]

00:42:50   new house that's a different time so we [TS]

00:42:54   want to get the cat talking aspect of [TS]

00:42:56   this guy's but what do you enjoy what [TS]

00:43:00   are you talking about [TS]

00:43:01   alright why was when Buzz arrives on the [TS]

00:43:03   scene [TS]

00:43:04   why does he follow the toy rules as in [TS]

00:43:08   going limp when Andy is that ok i have [TS]

00:43:10   that one in my notes too and I don't [TS]

00:43:12   know that that why doesn't climb up with [TS]

00:43:13   me and he's like it basically about that [TS]

00:43:15   means like there is that there is a [TS]

00:43:16   there is the world of the toys but then [TS]

00:43:18   there is like in a larger force that [TS]

00:43:21   like and they break it at the end of [TS]

00:43:22   this movie when haha moving as a thing [TS]

00:43:25   right like but that is like a large [TS]

00:43:26   directly a law of the universe that even [TS]

00:43:29   though buzz does not think he's a toy he [TS]

00:43:31   cannot help but behave like a toy in the [TS]

00:43:33   presence of humans all the way up to the [TS]

00:43:35   point of like going back to previous [TS]

00:43:36   position and flopping down but they [TS]

00:43:37   don't show him flopping a lot but he [TS]

00:43:38   does do that and it's weird that was so [TS]

00:43:41   they're such a big mistake [TS]

00:43:42   except for when he decides to climb into [TS]

00:43:44   the passenger seat of the pizza truck [TS]

00:43:45   and then even buckle himself and don't [TS]

00:43:48   exposes himself to the driver or I can [TS]

00:43:51   click there is little doesn't matter i'm [TS]

00:43:52   going to add to that point you know that [TS]

00:43:54   that was a consistent mistake in the [TS]

00:43:55   first movie they didn't they didn't [TS]

00:43:57   really know the universe they're [TS]

00:43:58   creating they felt as though they had a [TS]

00:44:00   spell some things out and they needed to [TS]

00:44:01   put some rules into this universe to [TS]

00:44:04   explain why no one has ever discovered [TS]

00:44:05   that the toys are actually live without [TS]

00:44:07   looking at them they admit they did as [TS]

00:44:09   such so much of a better job in two and [TS]

00:44:10   three because i think that they sort of [TS]

00:44:12   adopted the calvin and hobbes rules or [TS]

00:44:15   they are refer another analogy that the [TS]

00:44:17   sixth sense rules [TS]

00:44:18   we're so long as you just simply [TS]

00:44:20   never have a situation occur in which [TS]

00:44:22   someone would notice that these toys are [TS]

00:44:24   alive long as you never see notice that [TS]

00:44:26   Bruce Willis is actually a goes you can [TS]

00:44:28   have these ridiculous you can have these [TS]

00:44:30   people do whatever you need them to do [TS]

00:44:31   without having to call attention to a [TS]

00:44:33   wedding but you know that he has to be [TS]

00:44:34   here at this point but he can't do this [TS]

00:44:36   at this point which is things that that [TS]

00:44:38   nobody's gonna be interested in this is [TS]

00:44:40   not a documentary on how the rules of [TS]

00:44:43   the toys works so maybe the toys don't [TS]

00:44:46   talk at all and this is just a [TS]

00:44:48   presentation [TS]

00:44:49   the dad is having as he believes out on [TS]

00:44:51   the floor and recover they have I think [TS]

00:44:53   it's cleverly woven into this and the [TS]

00:44:54   kids never know where the heck their [TS]

00:44:55   toys are like they have no idea where [TS]

00:44:57   they are they they would notice a baby [TS]

00:44:59   monitor it so we don't see a baby [TS]

00:45:01   monitor by the bed like the places toys [TS]

00:45:03   are in our house and how a track that [TS]

00:45:05   children have of these toys like the [TS]

00:45:07   fact that she says I mom but they were [TS]

00:45:09   in the car mom like mom totally believes [TS]

00:45:10   it's always like if you're going to be [TS]

00:45:12   like animated inanimate objects that [TS]

00:45:14   move on their own children's toys are [TS]

00:45:16   the ones to be because no one's gonna [TS]

00:45:17   ever find it suspicious for those things [TS]

00:45:19   no no absolutely true and I my personal [TS]

00:45:23   interpretation of this or headcanon if [TS]

00:45:26   you like is my interpretation is that [TS]

00:45:28   the toys know the rules like baby [TS]

00:45:32   innately know the rules and they can be [TS]

00:45:33   overwritten and although i find that [TS]

00:45:36   seemed kind of problematic because of [TS]

00:45:37   that the reasons we've said but as you [TS]

00:45:40   might think that he's not a not a toy [TS]

00:45:43   but he still is following the rules of [TS]

00:45:45   toys all that the obvious explanation to [TS]

00:45:48   me that is doesn't fit here is that it's [TS]

00:45:52   a Weeping Angels types of direction [TS]

00:45:54   we're basically if if somebody if [TS]

00:45:56   there's not a person there who can see [TS]

00:45:57   you you have the ability to move and [TS]

00:46:00   talk and and have meanings that's red [TS]

00:46:02   light green light for those of you don't [TS]

00:46:03   speak doctor whom i'm trying to think of [TS]

00:46:07   analogy for people who are 5,000 good [TS]

00:46:09   good job good job state red light green [TS]

00:46:11   light don't think it's play that anymore [TS]

00:46:13   good job you identified that this doctor [TS]

00:46:14   who are not Star Trek well I know my [TS]

00:46:16   stuff [TS]

00:46:16   yeah good job well done that was at [TS]

00:46:18   babylon 5's dr. Jo yeah should we um I [TS]

00:46:23   want to talk about Sid let's see we we [TS]

00:46:26   get roughly as this scott focus we get a [TS]

00:46:29   scut Farkus we get our who has a dad we [TS]

00:46:31   get our view of said I'd like to defense [TS]

00:46:34   I was going to die I said sit is the is [TS]

00:46:36   the monster in this movie but when you [TS]

00:46:38   look at him and again this may be [TS]

00:46:40   something about 20 years later and me [TS]

00:46:41   being a parent I look at this I'm like [TS]

00:46:42   you know sit is a monster to toys but [TS]

00:46:46   cities just a kid he's just a perfectly [TS]

00:46:48   and Mary industrious using MacGyver in [TS]

00:46:50   the man yeah absolutely that's exciting [TS]

00:46:52   that's exactly my point c because you [TS]

00:46:54   know this other boy is simply a tool of [TS]

00:46:56   the toy companies and market their [TS]

00:46:57   marketing firms city saying you know [TS]

00:46:59   what I'm not going to take these [TS]

00:47:01   storylines I'm being handed to i'm going [TS]

00:47:03   to create my own characters and my own [TS]

00:47:05   stories and also i'm going to learn the [TS]

00:47:07   maker skills that are required in order [TS]

00:47:09   to build and repair my own toys is high [TS]

00:47:12   if you have got if you had a little kid [TS]

00:47:13   oh yeah he's a kid who has a toolbox you [TS]

00:47:16   know and that's a cool stuff that you [TS]

00:47:18   know I remember the first time that I [TS]

00:47:19   have helped my directors and apparently [TS]

00:47:21   because that is exactly all head is [TS]

00:47:23   riding on to the whole director sent me [TS]

00:47:24   right and also its it kind of iffy if [TS]

00:47:28   you want to go into again the the [TS]

00:47:30   graduate school thesis conversation [TS]

00:47:32   level of toy story and we do that [TS]

00:47:35   thank you got out i Ike's I accept your [TS]

00:47:38   banner of vendor of legitimacy on the [TS]

00:47:40   second person is it a little bit creepy [TS]

00:47:43   and interesting that you talk about [TS]

00:47:45   these two worlds which these toys want [TS]

00:47:48   nothing more than the intention of the [TS]

00:47:50   land the love of much larger beings that [TS]

00:47:52   are utterly unknowledgeable an [TS]

00:47:54   indifferent to the feelings that they [TS]

00:47:56   inspire in these creations [TS]

00:47:58   is that a little bit like the [TS]

00:47:59   relationship that kids often have with [TS]

00:48:01   their parents but here's the here's the [TS]

00:48:03   thing about about said I just I want to [TS]

00:48:05   say this against Sid is when we're [TS]

00:48:08   viewing this movie from the toys [TS]

00:48:09   perspective which we are he is he is the [TS]

00:48:12   the monster of this movie about the back [TS]

00:48:14   yeah but he's not i mean that's I really [TS]

00:48:16   believe that and now having watched lots [TS]

00:48:18   of you know having been apparent zealots [TS]

00:48:20   he is he is hyper you know and he likes [TS]

00:48:24   to blow stuff up and set things on fire [TS]

00:48:26   a little bit but he also yeah he's got a [TS]

00:48:28   toolbox he is experimenting he's mean to [TS]

00:48:30   his little sister [TS]

00:48:31   he's play-acting hurting the toys though [TS]

00:48:34   like hearing of the toys feel pain and [TS]

00:48:36   that he takes enjoyment in the pain so [TS]

00:48:38   he's not a no that's not that's not [TS]

00:48:40   psychotic if you're psychotic it would [TS]

00:48:42   be him taking pleasure and [TS]

00:48:44   seeing the paintings inflicting on [TS]

00:48:46   something else if he can if he's were if [TS]

00:48:49   he's creating a story which he's the bad [TS]

00:48:52   guy [TS]

00:48:52   yeah that's not necessarily fancy and [TS]

00:48:54   wish fulfillment as planned he's [TS]

00:48:56   play-acting he's he's repeating stories [TS]

00:48:58   that he's seen in TV and movies and I [TS]

00:49:01   can actually kids don't choose to always [TS]

00:49:03   be the bad guy that's all I'm saying [TS]

00:49:04   sometimes you should be the good guy [TS]

00:49:05   darth vader they they sold they said [TS]

00:49:08   they sold Darth Vader action figures and [TS]

00:49:10   costumes in the seventies he was not the [TS]

00:49:13   good guide till the third movie on huh [TS]

00:49:16   but anyway I mean yes I i just said this [TS]

00:49:19   problematic in some ways but I think [TS]

00:49:20   it's really interesting that when you [TS]

00:49:23   view him from a certain angle he's not [TS]

00:49:25   necessarily mean yeah he's he's probably [TS]

00:49:26   a pain in the butt to be if you're his [TS]

00:49:28   parents and we simply means mr. not [TS]

00:49:30   texting since it was that his family is [TS]

00:49:33   not as together like you don't see since [TS]

00:49:35   parents at all except for that one shot [TS]

00:49:36   right whoever sitting in that chair like [TS]

00:49:38   it seem less dad on the chair because [TS]

00:49:39   your mom later downstairs his house at [TS]

00:49:42   least he has a dad there's a very nice [TS]

00:49:43   tea party going on in the sisters room I [TS]

00:49:45   don't know what you're talking like they [TS]

00:49:46   make his house look a little bit more [TS]

00:49:48   like like you don't see the parents [TS]

00:49:50   interacting with the kids as much as [TS]

00:49:51   Andy's mom is kind of you know [TS]

00:49:53   shushing him from one place to the other [TS]

00:49:54   and returning a party for him and [TS]

00:49:56   whatever what our sins parents doing for [TS]

00:49:57   him or his sister they seem to be like [TS]

00:49:59   neglected children and like you know [TS]

00:50:01   their backyard is kind of a mess no [TS]

00:50:02   grass is just around that since fault he [TS]

00:50:04   doesn't just maintain the backyard right [TS]

00:50:06   so it's kind of its it seems like that [TS]

00:50:09   the home they come from may have helped [TS]

00:50:11   produce sit the way he is and like the [TS]

00:50:13   toys that puts it doesn't have a bunch [TS]

00:50:16   of new toys he's got a bunch of pieces [TS]

00:50:17   of old toys yeah just because he blew [TS]

00:50:19   them up it's not like his parents are he [TS]

00:50:21   didn't get out just like year for his [TS]

00:50:22   birthday that's why he was excited to [TS]

00:50:24   see the buzz lightyear in the claw [TS]

00:50:25   machine [TS]

00:50:25   well buzz lightyear his mom didn't get [TS]

00:50:27   him one of those i thinks it is almost [TS]

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00:53:24   on Sid I i noticed something that I had [TS]

00:53:26   not picked up previously which is that [TS]

00:53:29   the scene where he blows up combat Carl [TS]

00:53:31   and you've got like the various bits of [TS]

00:53:34   combat slapping against the side of the [TS]

00:53:36   house as a little gruesome energy rated [TS]

00:53:39   movie when you think about it I mean [TS]

00:53:40   these are supposed to be living entities [TS]

00:53:41   here and then that Hannah's Tea Party [TS]

00:53:44   which is attended by a table full of [TS]

00:53:46   headless corpses yeah it's also pretty [TS]

00:53:47   grim [TS]

00:53:48   I was a little surprised but I don't [TS]

00:53:50   know about corpses right because I we [TS]

00:53:52   know they're moving attach the head so [TS]

00:53:54   they're just headless creatures so we we [TS]

00:53:57   already sort of talked about the scene [TS]

00:53:58   where woody ends up knocking buzz out [TS]

00:54:00   the window and of course this is that [TS]

00:54:03   line that I whole love that I love that [TS]

00:54:05   we need more monkeys that's the whole [TS]

00:54:07   barrel that's great stuff online online [TS]

00:54:10   stands out for me is that I was if I was [TS]

00:54:12   doing a rewrite on that i would say do [TS]

00:54:14   not say that was the whole barrel [TS]

00:54:15   because that is that's too that's one [TS]

00:54:17   step too far [TS]

00:54:18   you know we need more monkeys is funded [TS]

00:54:20   by itself if you know the whole barrel [TS]

00:54:21   of monkeys you already got the joke [TS]

00:54:22   allow you to show the barrel and say [TS]

00:54:24   that's all yeah not that girl is that's [TS]

00:54:27   not a contemporary toys I mean you get [TS]

00:54:29   them but i don't think i know but like [TS]

00:54:31   they're saying barrel is not going to [TS]

00:54:33   bring anybody on new on board [TS]

00:54:35   yeah that integrates the latter it's not [TS]

00:54:37   entirely for the old people in the room [TS]

00:54:38   the second but the older people got it [TS]

00:54:41   from the 1st to 2nd oh now that's a [TS]

00:54:43   whole barrel is but that's the that's [TS]

00:54:45   the extra bunch of 900 John this one is [TS]

00:54:48   too far I'll i would like to make a note [TS]

00:54:51   that i think most of the gags work you [TS]

00:54:53   know especially when the rapid-fire they [TS]

00:54:54   go by fast when Potato Head takes off [TS]

00:54:57   his mouth and mimics kissing his own but [TS]

00:55:00   i think that also a little adult forgive [TS]

00:55:03   me a little to you [TS]

00:55:04   oh wait we passed the the knocking out [TS]

00:55:06   the window without mentioning the [TS]

00:55:07   wilhelm scream oh yes yes at my notes [TS]

00:55:10   yes when Buzz goes out the window he [TS]

00:55:12   goes out with a Wilhelm's they really [TS]

00:55:14   missed an opportunity i think by not [TS]

00:55:15   giving the tie-in buzz lightyear toy [TS]

00:55:17   will help screen button because I would [TS]

00:55:18   have snapped that sucker up so movies [TS]

00:55:21   like Pixar was with Disney then [TS]

00:55:22   they were like they're whatever [TS]

00:55:23   publisher they were didn't own them yet [TS]

00:55:25   but it was pixar and disney right yeah [TS]

00:55:26   the star wars connection here is also [TS]

00:55:27   very strong their Star Wars sound [TS]

00:55:29   effects later you want the wheel home [TS]

00:55:30   screen and then you've got like hakuna [TS]

00:55:32   matata playing in the car and the whole [TS]

00:55:34   disney connection it's a weird it's [TS]

00:55:35   almost like the Star Wars connection to [TS]

00:55:38   Pixar stuff is weird because they're not [TS]

00:55:39   the same comfortable now they are ok but [TS]

00:55:40   they weren't and they were but they were [TS]

00:55:42   originally the the fresh became focus [TS]

00:55:45   right now but it's like it's kind of [TS]

00:55:46   like this friendly not incestuous but [TS]

00:55:48   like this friendly like we're all on the [TS]

00:55:50   same team here where the computer guys [TS]

00:55:52   and disney and these are all things we [TS]

00:55:53   love and I love the fact that they just [TS]

00:55:55   they just put those things in the movie [TS]

00:55:56   we're going to put in Star Wars laser [TS]

00:55:58   blast effect we're going to put in [TS]

00:55:59   lawsuits were not deployed that's the [TS]

00:56:00   shocking part well Gary Rydstrom did the [TS]

00:56:02   sound and he's a Lucas sky who did the [TS]

00:56:04   Star Wars movies and so that's why but [TS]

00:56:06   it sounds like that's why they're Star [TS]

00:56:07   Wars sounds in it I got one note on [TS]

00:56:09   sounds I did not notice this josh and i [TS]

00:56:12   don't know how many times I've seen this [TS]

00:56:13   movie but you know it's you know you [TS]

00:56:17   talk about when they will be frightened [TS]

00:56:18   to speaking of star wars the first time [TS]

00:56:20   they should star wars to people without [TS]

00:56:21   I guess without the sound John you can [TS]

00:56:23   chime in here but without the sound [TS]

00:56:25   effects and without the soundtrack it [TS]

00:56:26   wasn't nearly the same movie obviously [TS]

00:56:28   and in this case I think so much of what [TS]

00:56:30   makes the the movie working again I [TS]

00:56:33   don't know I'm thinking in particular in [TS]

00:56:34   Andy's room with introducing the [TS]

00:56:35   characters there's so much to the sound [TS]

00:56:37   design in this that I think really [TS]

00:56:38   really still works just dumb stuff like [TS]

00:56:41   when he's talking on the microphone and [TS]

00:56:43   he's talking close and it's more [TS]

00:56:45   amplified is further ways not amplified [TS]

00:56:47   they really give you a sense of space in [TS]

00:56:49   the room with the sound everybody's got [TS]

00:56:50   their own sounds [TS]

00:56:51   i think that's that's one of those [TS]

00:56:52   things where unless you're watching [TS]

00:56:54   closely you might not notice how much of [TS]

00:56:56   the visual images sold by the sounds but [TS]

00:57:00   if if you close your eyes while you're [TS]

00:57:01   watching it you can still pretty much [TS]

00:57:03   follow where things are spatially which [TS]

00:57:06   that mean that is just nice sound work [TS]

00:57:08   yeah I at the gas station I love the [TS]

00:57:11   design of the Dinoco station by the way [TS]

00:57:13   it is beautiful this is a this is a [TS]

00:57:15   beautiful set as a foreshadowing of [TS]

00:57:18   Lassiter's cars right here sure is [TS]

00:57:21   degree that classic-looking gas station [TS]

00:57:23   i love the love the dyno co with the [TS]

00:57:25   logo i love that it's a starry night and [TS]

00:57:28   the sun's going down it's not it's not [TS]

00:57:29   dark yet it's not quite there yet but [TS]

00:57:31   the stars are coming out [TS]

00:57:32   ya like like 730 or eight like it's [TS]

00:57:34   getting dark [TS]

00:57:34   and this is the first time we've really [TS]

00:57:37   been like out in the wide-open is a very [TS]

00:57:39   different environment from what we've [TS]

00:57:40   seen up till now and it's kind of [TS]

00:57:42   stunning and you're viewing it sort of [TS]

00:57:43   from toy level right and that is really [TS]

00:57:46   interesting to this just looks it looks [TS]

00:57:48   beautiful and then what we see here is [TS]

00:57:50   essentially this is one of those great [TS]

00:57:53   moments where you see the buzz is his [TS]

00:57:56   backstory is like a weird amalgam of [TS]

00:57:59   Star Trek and Star Wars because although [TS]

00:58:01   he comes from the Space Patrol and all [TS]

00:58:04   those things he essentially is r2d2 he [TS]

00:58:08   has the Death Star plans and is trying [TS]

00:58:10   to get them back to the Federation and [TS]

00:58:12   there's something that he's got the [TS]

00:58:13   single way of destroying the the [TS]

00:58:16   starship that can that will destroy a [TS]

00:58:18   planet which after he unspools this [TS]

00:58:21   entire plot summary of Star Wars what [TS]

00:58:24   his response is simply you are a toy [TS]

00:58:26   yeah but they do that joke for the whole [TS]

00:58:28   constantly been telling that buzz a toy [TS]

00:58:31   and it builds that scene and like you [TS]

00:58:33   would I remember thinking that like it [TS]

00:58:35   was a little bit of stunt casting with [TS]

00:58:36   like Tom Hanks and what's-his-name from [TS]

00:58:38   tim allen temper tantrum improvement but [TS]

00:58:40   at this point like Tom Hanks is woody [TS]

00:58:43   and and Tim Allen is Buzz and it's not [TS]

00:58:46   like oh they got that guy from that [TS]

00:58:47   popular TV show because it kind of [TS]

00:58:48   sounds like his kind of heat like when [TS]

00:58:50   he's there and does the voice is looking [TS]

00:58:51   off the distance I i know it's only [TS]

00:58:53   weakness and you know you are right or [TS]

00:58:55   they're perfect for like that you could [TS]

00:58:57   put those two voices on an odd couple [TS]

00:58:59   type show and then the seventies it [TS]

00:59:01   would be fine [TS]

00:59:01   well i mean it's it's it's like it's [TS]

00:59:03   pretty subtle that like it's not just [TS]

00:59:04   that you know if you ended up in some [TS]

00:59:06   kind of you know strange planet he [TS]

00:59:08   didn't know what was going on you know [TS]

00:59:10   what you got a question but with buzz [TS]

00:59:12   that it's just a question he still buzz [TS]

00:59:14   lightyear it's just hit questioning like [TS]

00:59:16   the the way that a bed feels to walk on [TS]

00:59:18   right it'sit's so encapsulated character [TS]

00:59:21   and you know what is getting more and [TS]

00:59:22   even even when they're having a very [TS]

00:59:24   first one of the very first conversation [TS]

00:59:25   we're standing on the bed and it sounds [TS]

00:59:27   like they're having two different [TS]

00:59:27   conversations where would you like a [TS]

00:59:29   just want to tell you a little bit about [TS]

00:59:30   how things work here and was adamantly [TS]

00:59:33   refuses to move off the idea that that [TS]

00:59:36   he's a space guy like down to that great [TS]

00:59:37   POV shot like from inside of the helmet [TS]

00:59:39   when you can hear him breathing you can [TS]

00:59:41   see his reflection in it it's a result [TS]

00:59:43   red dot on Woody's forehead [TS]

00:59:45   number looks like this like that like [TS]

00:59:46   with the completely in a sexually take [TS]

00:59:49   away the way that crab walks in a circle [TS]

00:59:50   around with that that was there two or [TS]

00:59:53   three shots specifically that think of [TS]

00:59:55   them was still hold up today one is that [TS]

00:59:57   crab walk the other one is when [TS]

00:59:57   crab walk the other one is when [TS]

01:00:00   what he at the absolute end of his rope [TS]

01:00:02   for frustration is like does almost like [TS]

01:00:04   a half Kermit the Frog you [TS]

01:00:07   hay wagon be totally Kermit's not even [TS]

01:00:11   halfway [TS]

01:00:12   yeah and then and it's all about to Mel [TS]

01:00:15   and I I think you five years later he [TS]

01:00:17   was a galaxy quest and i am watching [TS]

01:00:18   galaxy quest now it's like I this very [TS]

01:00:20   strange like it's buzz lightyear it [TS]

01:00:23   happens but it's a live-action buzz [TS]

01:00:24   lightyear he's doing the same thing but [TS]

01:00:26   uh your toy is almost immediately [TS]

01:00:28   responded to by the way with one of the [TS]

01:00:30   great lines and Miffy because you are a [TS]

01:00:32   sad strange little man and he says [TS]

01:00:35   farewell and flashes the Vulcan salute [TS]

01:00:37   star trek you have my pity but the [TS]

01:00:40   amazing thing about buzz is that he [TS]

01:00:42   liked so this movie he realizes a toy as [TS]

01:00:44   the great summer is peeling off the [TS]

01:00:45   sticker and everything like you know if [TS]

01:00:47   this is that's his ark in subsequent [TS]

01:00:49   movies he's still kind of that same yep [TS]

01:00:51   you know sorry like what is your [TS]

01:00:53   personality right exactly did they [TS]

01:00:55   didn't take that away from him that that [TS]

01:00:57   underneath it all he's still buzz [TS]

01:00:59   lightyear even though he recognized that [TS]

01:01:01   he's one of many toys it was like that's [TS]

01:01:03   his character and it makes you wonder if [TS]

01:01:04   maybe does he have some form of mental [TS]

01:01:08   illness i'll be a temporary at the [TS]

01:01:10   beginning of the year he is delusional [TS]

01:01:11   isn't like the Iron Giant and he's [TS]

01:01:14   actually a gun [TS]

01:01:15   deep down but that that's also one of [TS]

01:01:18   the most well they're there are a couple [TS]

01:01:20   of kind of semi heartbreaking moments in [TS]

01:01:22   there and then there is that were [TS]

01:01:24   beautifully animated moment where he [TS]

01:01:25   realizes that 02 seconds ago I was a [TS]

01:01:29   space commander who had the entire [TS]

01:01:30   galaxy at my feet in a lifetime an [TS]

01:01:32   adventure behind me and now I realize [TS]

01:01:34   I'm just a cheap punk of plastic of [TS]

01:01:37   which there are thousands and thousands [TS]

01:01:38   the entire world now flying toy bummer [TS]

01:01:41   not my rules not flying toy that little [TS]

01:01:45   existential crisis he has that's [TS]

01:01:46   actually kinda hard to watch yeah yeah [TS]

01:01:48   it is nice everybody's peeling that [TS]

01:01:50   sticker off its like that's brutal [TS]

01:01:51   he's looking at the sticker flapping [TS]

01:01:53   around crumple crumple throws and that [TS]

01:01:55   hurts me as somebody who's just a little [TS]

01:01:56   obsessive-compulsive like no don't do [TS]

01:01:58   that what did come on that's what your [TS]

01:02:01   lawyer is they meant that you need a guy [TS]

01:02:03   from Jerry's game to come and fix them [TS]

01:02:04   if it was put on a little sideways i [TS]

01:02:06   would understand it but that thing was [TS]

01:02:07   perfectly centered ago what one more [TS]

01:02:09   quick thing in passing to superfast [TS]

01:02:10   about Dinoco [TS]

01:02:12   this is one of the things like and john [TS]

01:02:13   gruber and I have obsessed about this in [TS]

01:02:15   the past we talked about how in toy [TS]

01:02:16   story 3 when when Andy gets in the car [TS]

01:02:18   and put on the seat belt [TS]

01:02:19   it's like the seatbelt seatbelt you've [TS]

01:02:21   ever seen in your life and this one okay [TS]

01:02:23   they did not have to put so much detail [TS]

01:02:25   into the undercarriage of a truck right [TS]

01:02:28   that like when they're moving and you [TS]

01:02:29   get that kind of parallax effect of how [TS]

01:02:31   it's moving it's just you know every bit [TS]

01:02:33   of this you know like they said in the [TS]

01:02:35   documentaries about this in animation [TS]

01:02:37   nothing accidentally appears an [TS]

01:02:39   animation somebody had to sweat every [TS]

01:02:41   second of that and and I really feel [TS]

01:02:43   like you know it's it's it's 19 years [TS]

01:02:45   old and you really still feel like these [TS]

01:02:48   are toys talking under a truck and it [TS]

01:02:50   completely works I crappy yeah beat-up [TS]

01:02:52   pickup truck from the pizza planet to [TS]

01:02:55   which we I wish I believe reappears in [TS]

01:02:57   numerous in cars pixar movies and all [TS]

01:03:01   the movies i think the real and it's [TS]

01:03:02   engraved for crying out loud they put it [TS]

01:03:04   everywhere the yo truck amazing [TS]

01:03:07   ok off to the pizza planet which is the [TS]

01:03:10   perfect place for buzz pizza planet is [TS]

01:03:12   awesome by the way why has nobody opened [TS]

01:03:14   a real pizza planet [TS]

01:03:16   I don't know it's way better than chuck [TS]

01:03:17   e cheese they have is not a necessity [TS]

01:03:19   Studios in Florida I don't think those [TS]

01:03:21   robots by the doors or within fire codes [TS]

01:03:23   though maybe not the vomiting alien [TS]

01:03:28   though is that it's just a good idea [TS]

01:03:30   it's out your drinking together and [TS]

01:03:32   whack and Liam's back an alien such a [TS]

01:03:34   great joke again for the for the parent [TS]

01:03:36   back in daily i know we notice that this [TS]

01:03:38   time with a guy on a table with the [TS]

01:03:39   aliens popping out popping out of his [TS]

01:03:41   chest another not exactly body rated [TS]

01:03:43   joke [TS]

01:03:43   yeah mmm yeah but it goes by it's the [TS]

01:03:47   kids aren't even going to get a joke [TS]

01:03:49   like that i like this and and if this is [TS]

01:03:53   a great moment between woody and buzz [TS]

01:03:54   where Woody is manipulating buzz because [TS]

01:03:57   he knows buzz loves this stuff and and [TS]

01:03:59   so he's like a buzz go over here we have [TS]

01:04:01   found a spaceship here's a spaceport [TS]

01:04:03   right and and and Buzz just goes along [TS]

01:04:05   with it and and which is kind of [TS]

01:04:07   adorable hyperactive hyperdrive or body [TS]

01:04:10   shows that he doesn't even know the [TS]

01:04:12   terminology know the spacebook but then [TS]

01:04:14   but it backfires when Buzz sees a he [TS]

01:04:17   tells him to wait here and Buzz sees the [TS]

01:04:19   the claw machine rocket and decides to [TS]

01:04:21   dive into the decline machine which [TS]

01:04:23   leads to one of my [TS]

01:04:25   favorite things in this entire movie [TS]

01:04:27   which is the little green squeaky aliens [TS]

01:04:29   and working i look a little rough to [TS]

01:04:32   your ass they do although they are I I [TS]

01:04:34   imagine they're the cheapest possible [TS]

01:04:36   tuyo right that they don't sing like the [TS]

01:04:38   rendering like we have one shot you have [TS]

01:04:40   with someone of their ears is really [TS]

01:04:42   close to the camera in the seam between [TS]

01:04:43   the internet is not good like is the and [TS]

01:04:46   you think they would be good at that one [TS]

01:04:48   like sometimes like shots like that one [TS]

01:04:50   got away from them like they just didn't [TS]

01:04:51   have enough time to rerender and it's [TS]

01:04:53   just like it is what it is [TS]

01:04:54   every appearance is a crowd scene though [TS]

01:04:55   so that's that's gotta be a difficult [TS]

01:04:57   down there but like I when I first saw [TS]

01:04:59   this movie like that I i remember those [TS]

01:05:01   guys making as big an impression on me [TS]

01:05:03   as Woody and Buzz absolutely no they [TS]

01:05:05   were just so funny and so adorable and [TS]

01:05:07   had so many memorable lines and and like [TS]

01:05:10   the thing is it pulled you into the [TS]

01:05:11   world of like what is the experience for [TS]

01:05:13   other toys not all toys are owned by [TS]

01:05:15   getting their room and get played with [TS]

01:05:16   these toys have lived in this little [TS]

01:05:18   bubble and their entire world is defined [TS]

01:05:20   by the thing that's above them and they [TS]

01:05:21   have no idea what like they're like buzz [TS]

01:05:23   in some respects or they just sort of [TS]

01:05:24   rationalize their world and you know [TS]

01:05:26   like well I guess someone pulls the Sun [TS]

01:05:28   across the sky with a chariot every day [TS]

01:05:30   and the chosen one their cargo called [TS]

01:05:32   base is a very subversive thing in that [TS]

01:05:33   way because they have created an entire [TS]

01:05:35   worldview based on their placement in [TS]

01:05:38   the claw machine and to the point where [TS]

01:05:40   they worship the claw it moves i go on [TS]

01:05:43   to a better place my friends and and [TS]

01:05:45   that's followed up when they're going to [TS]

01:05:46   sit house where he says nirvana is [TS]

01:05:48   coming right i mean he is in he's headed [TS]

01:05:51   for the afterlife they have created an [TS]

01:05:52   entire religion almost wanna know yet [TS]

01:05:55   another possibility for the grad student [TS]

01:05:57   thesis that Jay there the aliens are the [TS]

01:06:00   exact same position as buzz lightly and [TS]

01:06:02   let your they are fresh from packaging [TS]

01:06:03   they have not experienced life with an [TS]

01:06:06   owner yet and is somehow it is the power [TS]

01:06:08   of the love granted upon them by a child [TS]

01:06:10   that gives them that self-awareness I [TS]

01:06:12   realized oh I'm out I'm actually i'm not [TS]

01:06:14   actually a Liam as I've been molded i'm [TS]

01:06:17   actually a toy and there's my reality [TS]

01:06:19   okay and that's the moment where the dog [TS]

01:06:21   tears you into little pieces [TS]

01:06:23   can I just say that for the the the [TS]

01:06:25   strength of that claw is massively [TS]

01:06:27   exaggerated you see how it held onto it [TS]

01:06:29   like that clock cannot hold onto a [TS]

01:06:31   cotton ball this is the most poorly [TS]

01:06:33   tuned crane game i have ever seen claw [TS]

01:06:36   has got to have epoxy on it or something [TS]

01:06:38   I feel like I couldn't pull up buzz [TS]

01:06:39   lightyear with my fingertips from that [TS]

01:06:41   position and yet the cloth the same [TS]

01:06:42   cloth will drop a cotton ball that's not [TS]

01:06:45   enough grass and I guess the whole point [TS]

01:06:46   of the claw machine there is no strength [TS]

01:06:48   in the closet never picks up anything [TS]

01:06:49   and grab some of the most impossible [TS]

01:06:51   wipe off they are going to lose millions [TS]

01:06:53   of dollars on that thing in fact that's [TS]

01:06:54   probably why Pizza Planet never expanded [TS]

01:06:56   on the tri-county it has like would be [TS]

01:06:58   pulling down on his legs and it doesn't [TS]

01:07:00   let go that it was it was it was paying [TS]

01:07:02   off the class action suits from all the [TS]

01:07:03   people put money into that machine [TS]

01:07:04   that's why they weren't or didn't have [TS]

01:07:06   it finally was like that scene in casino [TS]

01:07:08   someone's gonna come out and say these [TS]

01:07:09   mean slot machines the paint off you [TS]

01:07:10   didn't show the floor down although [TS]

01:07:12   maybe this is just another point in six [TS]

01:07:14   favorite the kid might just be that good [TS]

01:07:16   yeah he's a crane game wizard but that [TS]

01:07:19   could make the poor man's version of [TS]

01:07:21   Tommy who rock opera [TS]

01:07:22   yeah that's gonna be my family [TS]

01:07:27   Oh God so we go back to since house said [TS]

01:07:30   said gets woody and buzz and and once we [TS]

01:07:34   Kaylee who is fed to the dog since house [TS]

01:07:37   the rug and sits outshining shining yep [TS]

01:07:39   yep drug and shining wallpaper is a [TS]

01:07:41   motif that carries around i say did the [TS]

01:07:44   decorator can pick family to the shining [TS]

01:07:45   everywhere they've got they've got to [TS]

01:07:47   take a 237 through everyone knew it he's [TS]

01:07:50   a member of the replica prop forum [TS]

01:07:51   explains everything the tools the the [TS]

01:07:56   rug that he made very complete [TS]

01:07:57   disinterest in his children [TS]

01:07:58   exactly i like the fact that buzz [TS]

01:08:01   spacesuit the dayglo elements actually [TS]

01:08:03   do glow yes license room that's and that [TS]

01:08:05   and that weird sickly glow that you only [TS]

01:08:07   see an absolute pitch darkness [TS]

01:08:09   uh-huh right perfect the end and this is [TS]

01:08:12   where this is where we get the buzzes [TS]

01:08:15   moment of realization where he's not [TS]

01:08:18   flying toy he sees a TV commercial which [TS]

01:08:21   is a an amusingly cheesy TV commercial i [TS]

01:08:24   figure if two pics are made this movie [TS]

01:08:25   today that would be in live action but [TS]

01:08:29   it's not [TS]

01:08:30   although it's got its got Penn Jillette [TS]

01:08:31   doing his best shouty TV commercial [TS]

01:08:34   narrator voice and buzzes is taking it [TS]

01:08:37   back to the point where once he's lost [TS]

01:08:39   his arm and he seemed that he's a toy he [TS]

01:08:41   decides to just go with it and be mrs. [TS]

01:08:44   Nesbitt and enjoy the party in CID [TS]

01:08:47   sister's room which is pretty funny and [TS]

01:08:50   then Randy Newman sings [TS]

01:08:52   song while passing a stone in ruins at [TS]

01:08:53   all haha the tea party gives them an [TS]

01:08:58   excuse to put in the actual opengl [TS]

01:09:00   teapot there are many many many hidden [TS]

01:09:01   things this movie I mean you figure this [TS]

01:09:03   is the first one that yeah it seems like [TS]

01:09:04   it's like packed with stuff like figured [TS]

01:09:06   everything I gotta put in something if [TS]

01:09:08   you pause like read the titles of the [TS]

01:09:10   books that are behind with you look at [TS]

01:09:11   all this stuff in the call the shot one [TS]

01:09:13   is like that one's just for the 3d [TS]

01:09:15   people write like it's the actual opengl [TS]

01:09:17   teapot is like a demo resource or [TS]

01:09:19   something [TS]

01:09:20   yeah it just google opengl teapot is [TS]

01:09:23   always so so one of the things I really [TS]

01:09:25   like here is that this is where would he [TS]

01:09:26   make reestablish contact with with [TS]

01:09:28   Andy's room and it's a funny scene [TS]

01:09:31   because buzzes lost it and and lost his [TS]

01:09:34   arm and he's completely just catatonic [TS]

01:09:36   and and so would he is communicating [TS]

01:09:38   accurately about what's going on and [TS]

01:09:40   they don't believe him and there's that [TS]

01:09:42   funny moment where he heat like he's got [TS]

01:09:44   the arm and he strikes a low buzz right [TS]

01:09:46   here and it all unravels and now [TS]

01:09:50   everybody's sure that nobody is a [TS]

01:09:51   monster that is very that is a very [TS]

01:09:54   funny scene we also learned at this [TS]

01:09:56   point that mr. Potato Head is a terrible [TS]

01:09:58   battleship player that's a great [TS]

01:10:02   business it's a little subtle that's [TS]

01:10:04   another one for the parents he's got all [TS]

01:10:05   of his ships clumped into foursquare and [TS]

01:10:08   he's filled up every single spot on the [TS]

01:10:10   board from the shots he's taken on Rex [TS]

01:10:12   or he's playing ham that damn right it's [TS]

01:10:16   amazing [TS]

01:10:17   I this is also where and this is [TS]

01:10:19   actually one of those plot twist that I [TS]

01:10:20   really love which is like like me saying [TS]

01:10:23   that maybe it's not so bad [TS]

01:10:28   what that what they're really doing here [TS]

01:10:29   with our expectations is this idea that [TS]

01:10:31   these these misfit toys these which they [TS]

01:10:34   call it like the cannibal toys but there [TS]

01:10:36   are assumed to be scary and evil because [TS]

01:10:39   they're ugly and mismatched and this is [TS]

01:10:42   where we did we discover that even [TS]

01:10:43   though they don't talk and they're all [TS]

01:10:45   you know and they're all weird looking [TS]

01:10:47   they're actually perfectly nice and they [TS]

01:10:49   fix buzz and it's i really love that [TS]

01:10:51   moment that these guys are not bad and [TS]

01:10:54   we have just assumed because of the [TS]

01:10:56   horror movie setting that their end that [TS]

01:10:59   their that they're you know they're evil [TS]

01:11:02   and they're cannibals and it's just not [TS]

01:11:03   true [TS]

01:11:04   burning man [TS]

01:11:05   that the burning compound it's likely [TS]

01:11:07   it's just like burning man and you got [TS]

01:11:09   it but they're the body modification [TS]

01:11:11   would that the other toys in Andy's room [TS]

01:11:13   had exercised such understanding before [TS]

01:11:16   wanting to string woody up this whole [TS]

01:11:18   thing wouldn't have happened [TS]

01:11:18   well isn't that interesting that here in [TS]

01:11:20   here in the tyranny of SIDS a room with [TS]

01:11:23   all the toys being dismantled and [TS]

01:11:25   reattached this is a quote you know I a [TS]

01:11:28   culture with sort of a quiet dignity [TS]

01:11:31   amid the amid the rubble is that they're [TS]

01:11:33   all kind of nice and helpful and silent [TS]

01:11:36   whereas in n Andy supposedly happy room [TS]

01:11:39   it's a you know full of recriminations [TS]

01:11:42   and bitterness toward toward woody and [TS]

01:11:44   things like that but it's just it's [TS]

01:11:46   really sweet and it is that you know you [TS]

01:11:48   judged us because of what we look like [TS]

01:11:50   and you made a real mistake moment that [TS]

01:11:52   i like because I judge them right i mean [TS]

01:11:54   they're scary where the movie tells us [TS]

01:11:56   to be scared of them and then send em [TS]

01:11:57   wrong [TS]

01:11:58   you blew it you're a bad person which I [TS]

01:12:00   like yeah I'm with you there [TS]

01:12:03   that's a nice it's just nice flip around [TS]

01:12:05   that's nice reverse and they're silent [TS]

01:12:07   which also keeps it really interesting [TS]

01:12:08   that they they are you know there's like [TS]

01:12:10   the little cliques and things have been [TS]

01:12:12   moving but there is a horrible horrible [TS]

01:12:14   screeching noise is the Babyhead rises [TS]

01:12:16   up on its a regular legs which is nice [TS]

01:12:18   yeah but they're perfectly perfectly [TS]

01:12:21   nice toys you want to help Americans [TS]

01:12:22   they're good at reattaching parts [TS]

01:12:23   because you know it's a guy who's like [TS]

01:12:26   basically a steamroller with a head [TS]

01:12:28   attached and the hour [TS]

01:12:30   yeah I sense of humor where he pokes it [TS]

01:12:32   without getting dark and forbidding Ned [TS]

01:12:33   no no this is this is just the i can [TS]

01:12:36   head perched atop just a rolling rolling [TS]

01:12:39   pin type thing and he rolls the last one [TS]

01:12:42   to roll out from under the bed and he's [TS]

01:12:43   got a little hand attached to him and he [TS]

01:12:45   looks up at woody and he pokes him in [TS]

01:12:47   the side [TS]

01:12:48   yeah and and that's the last straw [TS]

01:12:49   that's what makes what he shoot up onto [TS]

01:12:51   the bed again but it's a great little [TS]

01:12:52   gag XP life apparently originally and in [TS]

01:12:55   the screenplay this they're saved by an [TS]

01:12:59   intervention from Barbies from the [TS]

01:13:01   sisters room but famously the mattel [TS]

01:13:04   corporations that and will not use [TS]

01:13:06   Barbie in your little computer movie The [TS]

01:13:08   Changeling to mention mattel at one [TS]

01:13:10   point in the script [TS]

01:13:11   yeah yeah but they don't use any of the [TS]

01:13:13   licensing right the licensed characters [TS]

01:13:15   and released Barbie wasn't able to be [TS]

01:13:18   licensed and of course yes they do not [TS]

01:13:20   believe i met a little bit too by saying [TS]

01:13:21   it's not actually mattel but its [TS]

01:13:23   subsidiary that was purchased from Japan [TS]

01:13:25   or something yeah but instead we you [TS]

01:13:27   know we get these we get these misfit [TS]

01:13:28   toys which i really like this is where [TS]

01:13:30   they say in that they put together their [TS]

01:13:32   their their heist and this is where we [TS]

01:13:35   get wine for frog an excellent i can't [TS]

01:13:38   believe that's a thing I i had never [TS]

01:13:39   just noticed that my love that time I [TS]

01:13:41   wrote it down it's in my notes every [TS]

01:13:42   time you people been saying wine the [TS]

01:13:44   Frog I can only think of like i did a [TS]

01:13:47   good Jim Morrison doors line 1 the frog [TS]

01:13:51   and the frogs cool i just like the idea [TS]

01:13:56   that there is a clockwork uh a clockwork [TS]

01:13:58   set up of a series of events that need [TS]

01:14:01   to happen and the key moment that will [TS]

01:14:03   start off this entire very serious plot [TS]

01:14:06   to escape is why the Frog start with one [TS]

01:14:10   in the front and we go from there [TS]

01:14:11   I keep thinking of bela lugosi in [TS]

01:14:13   Deadwood going through the ceiling and [TS]

01:14:17   the frog the front i actually like I [TS]

01:14:19   don't think the frog has no lines and I [TS]

01:14:21   don't know if the frogs or even changes [TS]

01:14:23   expression but it has like a little [TS]

01:14:24   personality as like a little toy like [TS]

01:14:26   you can see it's ready to go in and zips [TS]

01:14:28   out there it makes this little loop turn [TS]

01:14:30   to go downstairs and turning down the [TS]

01:14:32   stairs like when the Frog is the [TS]

01:14:33   greatest toy in the whole escape plan [TS]

01:14:36   because he actually shoots out [TS]

01:14:37   underneath the dog without any kind of [TS]

01:14:39   concern for his own safety [TS]

01:14:41   everybody else goes through the ductwork [TS]

01:14:42   are out the windows writing and look how [TS]

01:14:44   they freedom dog is good wine the Frog i [TS]

01:14:47   have a name you know it's roger i'm [TS]

01:14:50   wondering the Frog is up to my ankles [TS]

01:14:52   because you need to be world there's a [TS]

01:14:56   you know there are several scenes that [TS]

01:14:58   fly by pretty quick that involve these [TS]

01:14:59   you know some of my favorite things is [TS]

01:15:02   like a nerd sitting in and watching it [TS]

01:15:04   after multiple reviewing our are these [TS]

01:15:07   kind of Rube Goldberg things like the [TS]

01:15:09   obviously the whole thing of getting out [TS]

01:15:10   of SIDS house but also you know just the [TS]

01:15:12   whole thing of like having to the army [TS]

01:15:14   guys with their legs you know i love [TS]

01:15:17   that having to get that and that like [TS]

01:15:19   you know and just even like the fact [TS]

01:15:21   that the like the fisher-price you know [TS]

01:15:23   baby monitor the core that's wound up [TS]

01:15:25   really looks like a cord and it moves [TS]

01:15:27   the way they go down but then into the [TS]

01:15:29   other one that is really subtle but very [TS]

01:15:30   important to the plot [TS]

01:15:32   is the entire sequence that we talked [TS]

01:15:34   about where it looks like what he was [TS]

01:15:35   trying to get push buzz out the window [TS]

01:15:38   he's really trying to push him kind of [TS]

01:15:39   behind the desk but that whole sequence [TS]

01:15:41   of the Indiana Jones thing of the globe [TS]

01:15:43   rolling toward him and he slips on a [TS]

01:15:45   crayon he rolls over and then the the [TS]

01:15:49   way the lamp the canonical lamp and some [TS]

01:15:51   swinging around i do that so brilliantly [TS]

01:15:53   done it goes by the whole thing goes by [TS]

01:15:55   in a few seconds but you have to imagine [TS]

01:15:57   the incredible amount of work that went [TS]

01:15:59   into making that look at I meant to [TS]

01:16:00   mention earlier and I didn't get to the [TS]

01:16:01   the army men scene where they're where [TS]

01:16:03   they're reconnoitering to see what the [TS]

01:16:05   president's going to be and it turns out [TS]

01:16:07   to be by logans is shot is it is so well [TS]

01:16:10   done it it is so well paced it is [TS]

01:16:13   definitely one of those very early [TS]

01:16:15   scenes in the movie where they're saying [TS]

01:16:16   you know they're putting it on the table [TS]

01:16:18   here like they're just showing off isn't [TS]

01:16:20   we're gonna if we want to do an army [TS]

01:16:21   movie thing with army men were we can do [TS]

01:16:23   it [TS]

01:16:24   we're going to get our leader me but [TS]

01:16:25   also the fact that like the one that I i [TS]

01:16:27   noticed every time and it always gets me [TS]

01:16:29   is like the dented baseboards like how [TS]

01:16:31   how the doors have been kicked obviously [TS]

01:16:34   you know what I mean just those little [TS]

01:16:36   things and then adjust that just totally [TS]

01:16:38   works for me yep I so I do we need to [TS]

01:16:42   talk a little more about that what [TS]

01:16:43   happens outside with the widths it [TS]

01:16:45   because this is this is that moment [TS]

01:16:46   where I every time I watch it I think [TS]

01:16:48   you're kind of breaking the rules here [TS]

01:16:50   right and it's also super creepy it's [TS]

01:16:52   like suddenly becomes a horror movie [TS]

01:16:53   where it's like we have to honey we have [TS]

01:16:55   to takes it to the psychologist because [TS]

01:16:57   he's saying the toys are talking to him [TS]

01:16:59   I mean move the reanimated when the [TS]

01:17:01   reanimated like the army man with the [TS]

01:17:03   split this nail through his head [TS]

01:17:04   yeah something that's like that's super [TS]

01:17:06   disturbing but then but then they fix it [TS]

01:17:08   later by having him fall over repeatedly [TS]

01:17:10   because he has no arms right kind of [TS]

01:17:12   fixes a little buzz and woody leave that [TS]

01:17:14   yard at the end and they leave like how [TS]

01:17:16   everything is solved but it'sit's house [TS]

01:17:18   I guess from now on the toys will have [TS]

01:17:19   the upper hand on him because he will be [TS]

01:17:21   fear he will fear of his life because he [TS]

01:17:23   thinks they're all going to kill ya know [TS]

01:17:24   he's just going to redouble his efforts [TS]

01:17:26   now like those toys will become with him [TS]

01:17:28   is like a toys you can come to move in [TS]

01:17:29   with a 2 i'm sure he'd love a doll head [TS]

01:17:31   director said spine [TS]

01:17:32   well it's too it's too late at that [TS]

01:17:34   point because they wouldn't there in the [TS]

01:17:35   boxes but but uh yeah I I wonder about [TS]

01:17:39   like the way it escalates to where we're [TS]

01:17:43   first off it's woody talking through his [TS]

01:17:45   voice box [TS]

01:17:46   that's from the string and you're like [TS]

01:17:47   whoa they're breaking the rules but at [TS]

01:17:49   least you know he still limp and [TS]

01:17:50   everything and then he just starts [TS]

01:17:54   moving and I appreciate that that's [TS]

01:17:56   horrifying to the kidneys my god but and [TS]

01:18:00   then all the toys are moving but it also [TS]

01:18:02   feels like a nice [TS]

01:18:04   it also feels like they're they're [TS]

01:18:06   cheating a little bit [TS]

01:18:08   there's nothing there's something in the [TS]

01:18:09   i think i saw this in the wikipedia [TS]

01:18:11   article about how their I think like six [TS]

01:18:12   teams so check me on this but the every [TS]

01:18:15   scene had to go through something like [TS]

01:18:16   16 where there's you know there's [TS]

01:18:18   storyboarding you gotta write it and you [TS]

01:18:20   know finally goes through obviously the [TS]

01:18:22   animation and the shadows and the [TS]

01:18:23   textures and all that stuff like for [TS]

01:18:25   this one I have to say it [TS]

01:18:26   the implementation was extremely well [TS]

01:18:28   done like I thought it looked really [TS]

01:18:30   good I just thought the story part of [TS]

01:18:31   that was super weird and am really out [TS]

01:18:34   of out of keeping with the rest of the [TS]

01:18:37   movie and submit yeah maybe not out of [TS]

01:18:39   the maybe add another this movie but [TS]

01:18:41   they've already set the horror movie [TS]

01:18:43   stage in in Syd's room yeah as follows [TS]

01:18:45   on from that I mean it works okay for me [TS]

01:18:47   anyway it was good i couldn't have just [TS]

01:18:48   escaped was like they want you that once [TS]

01:18:51   you've established these toys are here [TS]

01:18:53   and they're really good toys that is in [TS]

01:18:55   a bad situation you can't just rescue [TS]

01:18:57   buzz and woody and have them run away [TS]

01:18:58   and then you'd be thinking well I guess [TS]

01:19:00   it just goes back to torturing his toys [TS]

01:19:02   like so you have to get some kind of [TS]

01:19:03   resolution and one was ever gonna stops [TS]

01:19:05   it from torturing his toys short short [TS]

01:19:07   of killing the kid [TS]

01:19:08   yeah this is a pretty good trade-off I [TS]

01:19:10   think or having all the toys escape so [TS]

01:19:12   what I think what i think is interesting [TS]

01:19:14   about about after the resolution with [TS]

01:19:17   Sid being totally freaked out is I i was [TS]

01:19:21   struck that this sort of feels like it [TS]

01:19:23   should be the end of the movie and this [TS]

01:19:26   is the point where the movie says uh-uh [TS]

01:19:28   that truck already left you have it you [TS]

01:19:31   we are now going to pile on a another [TS]

01:19:34   like huge action chase scene which i [TS]

01:19:38   think is gorgeous [TS]

01:19:39   yeah i think i think the second ending [TS]

01:19:41   is better than the first video ended [TS]

01:19:43   after the rescue from Sid no good you [TS]

01:19:45   need something more uplifting it's a [TS]

01:19:46   funny it's a funny moment where you feel [TS]

01:19:48   like they could in here but they instead [TS]

01:19:50   go now are our heroes are heroes are out [TS]

01:19:53   of danger [TS]

01:19:53   you need notes that it's not just get is [TS]

01:19:55   that just came out of danger you have to [TS]

01:19:56   submit them together as a new unit [TS]

01:19:58   right and you have to allow the other [TS]

01:20:01   toys to redeem themselves for the way [TS]

01:20:03   they turned on woody to say alright we [TS]

01:20:05   in the end you're welcome back [TS]

01:20:08   yeah it ended there you can might assume [TS]

01:20:09   that they may rejoin the toys at some [TS]

01:20:11   point and are immediately everybody is [TS]

01:20:13   still ostracized and immediately kicked [TS]

01:20:15   out of the back of the truck I'll buzz [TS]

01:20:17   is the new leader and you you have to [TS]

01:20:19   get the toys back to the kid who lost [TS]

01:20:20   his toys in the end I basically like the [TS]

01:20:22   kids are going to empathize with the kid [TS]

01:20:23   who is like mama can't find them well [TS]

01:20:25   I'm sure we'll find them we move that [TS]

01:20:26   he's despondent as opposed to throwing a [TS]

01:20:28   tantrum which might be slightly more [TS]

01:20:29   realistic that then that he can't find [TS]

01:20:31   the boys and they're moving the house [TS]

01:20:33   and he gets them back in a way that is [TS]

01:20:35   totally believable in the human world [TS]

01:20:36   was like oh you found them where they [TS]

01:20:38   could parents don't care of the kids [TS]

01:20:39   toys are like the other things a little [TS]

01:20:40   bit out if it's obviously the mom does [TS]

01:20:42   not understand like the the provenance [TS]

01:20:44   of woody toy which boosts is revealed in [TS]

01:20:47   the subsequent movie like it's not like [TS]

01:20:48   a family heirloom and she's not annoyed [TS]

01:20:50   lost whatever they'll turn up blah i [TS]

01:20:52   found them all really were they were in [TS]

01:20:54   the car say told you find them whatever [TS]

01:20:55   like that that all reads well and but [TS]

01:20:58   we're happy for the kids to get a story [TS]

01:20:59   is back and preparatory to be reunited [TS]

01:21:01   with the kid I I hadn't seen the film in [TS]

01:21:03   a few years and i had actually forgotten [TS]

01:21:05   the gag where they triumphantly light [TS]

01:21:07   the match to set off the rocket and then [TS]

01:21:09   a car immediately drives by I know I've [TS]

01:21:11   forgotten that too [TS]

01:21:12   it was so wonderfully timed that I [TS]

01:21:15   actually i did a literal spit-take and i [TS]

01:21:17   had to write whilst i plotted the [TS]

01:21:20   comforter with paper towels [TS]

01:21:22   it is so well done it it just blew me [TS]

01:21:25   away that I had had completely [TS]

01:21:27   completely slipped my mind that was in [TS]

01:21:28   the movie but I'd laughed and laughed [TS]

01:21:30   and said you get the call back to the [TS]

01:21:32   magnifying glass from from Sid which is [TS]

01:21:36   which is pretty industrious on what he's [TS]

01:21:38   part yeah I have forgotten if you would [TS]

01:21:39   ask me to summarize this movie in detail [TS]

01:21:41   i would have said well then what he [TS]

01:21:44   takes the match out and lights the [TS]

01:21:45   Firecracker having completely forgotten [TS]

01:21:48   that that's not what happened and then [TS]

01:21:51   only after its lit realizes that is [TS]

01:21:55   experienced such a heaping helping of [TS]

01:21:57   paint those at that moment because it's [TS]

01:21:58   so triumphant music swelling and then [TS]

01:22:00   she and the matches out and there's a [TS]

01:22:03   distance there's a beat there while you [TS]

01:22:05   just kind of go old and then we get away [TS]

01:22:07   22 rocket rockets explode i want to die [TS]

01:22:10   with you today buzz [TS]

01:22:11   although I was troubled by the fact that [TS]

01:22:13   the wood he seems to chuck rc's [TS]

01:22:16   remote-control away like into the street [TS]

01:22:20   when he doesn't add the party doesn't [TS]

01:22:22   need the remote control [TS]

01:22:24   alright because i got on RC 2020 and he [TS]

01:22:26   does but that's that is not use toys you [TS]

01:22:29   know how many remote control toys i have [TS]

01:22:30   with no remote control in this house [TS]

01:22:31   until viable Tony believe me now and we [TS]

01:22:34   got the falling with style callback [TS]

01:22:36   which which according to a story i read [TS]

01:22:39   actually wasn't in the script and then [TS]

01:22:41   they were watching playback of one of [TS]

01:22:43   these scenes very late in the process [TS]

01:22:44   and somebody said shouldn't he say i'm [TS]

01:22:46   falling with style here and they're like [TS]

01:22:47   okay get to melon on the phone we're [TS]

01:22:50   gonna have to record that dialogue [TS]

01:22:52   Wow and the end it was not apparently a [TS]

01:22:54   plant callback that seemed like such a [TS]

01:22:56   setup [TS]

01:22:56   I know I know but the story I read said [TS]

01:22:58   that that was unintentional and they're [TS]

01:23:01   like yeah really pretty much need we [TS]

01:23:03   need to do that here [TS]

01:23:04   why would we not do that here one [TS]

01:23:06   potential knock on sit here that could [TS]

01:23:08   use some seriously week duct tape either [TS]

01:23:11   that or buzzes wings are incredibly [TS]

01:23:13   unsafe for children yeah because he just [TS]

01:23:14   he just flipped him right flip them [TS]

01:23:16   right open he slices right through the [TS]

01:23:18   duct tape [TS]

01:23:18   he's he's also remarkably aerodynamic [TS]

01:23:21   with those little tiny wings we actually [TS]

01:23:24   sorta like that but you know he's that [TS]

01:23:26   good [TS]

01:23:27   think of it more in terms of the Boba [TS]

01:23:30   Fett action figure with the actual [TS]

01:23:31   firing rocket pack big man imagine that [TS]

01:23:34   he that buzzes the pre recall version of [TS]

01:23:36   that toy these the springs are way too [TS]

01:23:39   strong there the inflatable way way too [TS]

01:23:41   sharp [TS]

01:23:42   fair enough I i do love the the cutbacks [TS]

01:23:46   to the back of a truck where there is [TS]

01:23:49   the the unified front against woody is [TS]

01:23:52   starting to fall apart and potato head [TS]

01:23:55   gets blasted by them as they as they [TS]

01:23:58   rocket onto the onto the truck that's [TS]

01:24:00   that's it's funny to revisit those [TS]

01:24:02   characters and be reintroduced to them [TS]

01:24:04   and see them realize that Woody and Buzz [TS]

01:24:06   are too [TS]

01:24:06   they're in there working on this and and [TS]

01:24:08   it's all it's all going to gonna be okay [TS]

01:24:10   in the end and it's fun it's just a fun [TS]

01:24:12   action sequence the whole thing because [TS]

01:24:14   there's so many different twists and [TS]

01:24:15   turns and it's not just we gotta catch [TS]

01:24:17   up with those guys because the battery [TS]

01:24:18   dies then they gotta you know the whole [TS]

01:24:20   yeah it's a whole grade sequence [TS]

01:24:23   although i'm left wondering if slinky [TS]

01:24:25   dog is ever going to be the same again [TS]

01:24:27   he may not be out a slinky before that [TS]

01:24:30   it'sit's very they're working very hard [TS]

01:24:32   to get him back together at the end [TS]

01:24:33   because he's been stretched thank God it [TS]

01:24:35   doesn't get knotted up [TS]

01:24:37   I i have to admit that concerns me [TS]

01:24:39   everytime i watch this movie too i think [TS]

01:24:40   that because realistically slinkies do [TS]

01:24:43   like that's the end of every metals [TS]

01:24:44   metal 50-gallon yeah that's how every [TS]

01:24:47   metal slinky dies in your life where [TS]

01:24:48   it's not the end for slinky dog maybe [TS]

01:24:50   that's okay because we again perhaps [TS]

01:24:53   that it is a slinky dog of which there [TS]

01:24:55   were like million so the thousands [TS]

01:24:57   thousands made so maybe slinky dog gets [TS]

01:24:59   all tangled up [TS]

01:25:00   unbeknownst to the rest of the toys mom [TS]

01:25:02   buys him a new one and people and [TS]

01:25:05   because and because they don't really [TS]

01:25:07   identify this slinky dog as an [TS]

01:25:09   individual but simply as his product [TS]

01:25:11   name this new one is just as good as the [TS]

01:25:13   old one to get to these people [TS]

01:25:15   you think she tells the kid a story on [TS]

01:25:17   slinky dog ran away [TS]

01:25:19   you know just like dad is now living on [TS]

01:25:21   a farm upstate pretty good going and [TS]

01:25:24   going and go upstairs alone and in pairs [TS]

01:25:27   because that's where a lot of slinky [TS]

01:25:28   dogs goes go to live so speaking of dogs [TS]

01:25:31   at the end of the Berlin loves a slinky [TS]

01:25:32   dog we have our final ah we're in the [TS]

01:25:34   new house and it's Christmas and their [TS]

01:25:36   opening presents and we've got the army [TS]

01:25:39   will not their army man recon is still [TS]

01:25:41   happening and they they all have a good [TS]

01:25:44   laugh because they're now all firmly [TS]

01:25:46   tied back together as as Andy's toys and [TS]

01:25:49   what could win buzzes a little worried [TS]

01:25:51   about a new toy because he hasn't been [TS]

01:25:52   through this before and and don't worry [TS]

01:25:54   buzz what could be worse than you and [TS]

01:25:56   that's when we get the last line a puppy [TS]

01:25:58   they have that line during a slow slow [TS]

01:26:03   zoom out on the snowy house and then it [TS]

01:26:05   snaps back it never goes back through [TS]

01:26:07   the window shows the exterior house and [TS]

01:26:09   then it goes all the way back into the [TS]

01:26:10   house yet big warning the subtext of [TS]

01:26:13   this by the way is that now all of the [TS]

01:26:15   toys will be ignored and forgotten [TS]

01:26:16   yes they found another threatened by the [TS]

01:26:19   door [TS]

01:26:19   chewing them essentially it's because we [TS]

01:26:21   saw what happened to that one alien [TS]

01:26:22   it'sit's house plus they threatened by [TS]

01:26:23   obsolescence which will be revisited in [TS]

01:26:26   in future films right i mean that that [TS]

01:26:29   was going to say this earlier about the [TS]

01:26:30   about the the aliens that you could [TS]

01:26:33   argue that the the aliens are not just [TS]

01:26:35   an analog for kids and trying to make [TS]

01:26:37   sense of an insensible world with their [TS]

01:26:40   parents telling them what to do but you [TS]

01:26:41   could also say that it's uh it's it's [TS]

01:26:44   people in general trying to make sense [TS]

01:26:45   of the world and and I think that [TS]

01:26:48   worldview is is borne out by future [TS]

01:26:51   films and this franchise been get a [TS]

01:26:53   little dark get a little dark [TS]

01:26:56   I like that there's a really conspicuous [TS]

01:26:58   Western pillow on a Space Ranger [TS]

01:26:59   comforter so we're really clear that [TS]

01:27:02   that's really integrated happy family [TS]

01:27:04   that's right i like the practice space [TS]

01:27:05   ranger comforter is still the dominant [TS]

01:27:07   visual thing yes that's true and here is [TS]

01:27:09   a kind of a stranger pillow underneath [TS]

01:27:11   the western horizon and then everyone's [TS]

01:27:13   okay with that it's not like he goes [TS]

01:27:14   back to what he doesn't he's moved on to [TS]

01:27:16   his next thing that he's well kids are [TS]

01:27:18   kids are assassination of all of these [TS]

01:27:20   things and writing things drop away but [TS]

01:27:21   you also kind of have this buildup of [TS]

01:27:23   things so like his toy box is still a [TS]

01:27:26   Western it's a woody theme to basically [TS]

01:27:28   toy box and that's that's still there [TS]

01:27:30   but then you add in the stuff and you [TS]

01:27:31   end up with this big melange of [TS]

01:27:33   different things and that's yeah that's [TS]

01:27:35   what kids are like 10 minutes [TS]

01:27:37   it's sort of like a mash-up of [TS]

01:27:38   everything that you own [TS]

01:27:40   suddenly they're all part of the same [TS]

01:27:41   story right right when your kid that's [TS]

01:27:44   true yeah then you get into I'm not [TS]

01:27:46   baseball cards or something and I want [TS]

01:27:48   to mention that to actually because [TS]

01:27:50   because uh other than at the arcade [TS]

01:27:52   there are no video games in this world [TS]

01:27:55   and i thought that and I know that I [TS]

01:27:57   think changes in the future movies but [TS]

01:27:59   that struck me because I had that [TS]

01:28:01   question of like what are the video [TS]

01:28:03   games are they just games are they alive [TS]

01:28:05   are they like wreck-it Ralph what's [TS]

01:28:07   going on with it whether that's when [TS]

01:28:09   they say that I don't worry to board [TS]

01:28:10   game or wired the board games live for [TS]

01:28:12   ya little people in the board exam [TS]

01:28:14   environment Napoli call this tiny little [TS]

01:28:16   pigs running around the lips [TS]

01:28:18   yeah did the cars and from the game of [TS]

01:28:20   life drive around on a movable wheels so [TS]

01:28:21   it seems unlikely the battleships were [TS]

01:28:23   alive at checkers are a lot of the [TS]

01:28:25   monopoly figures are like on solo in [TS]

01:28:26   carbonite and the iron is still the most [TS]

01:28:29   pathetic character the entire menagerie [TS]

01:28:31   yes you think he's worse [TS]

01:28:33   shouldn't the entire top hat is talking [TS]

01:28:35   a little longer races off like your top [TS]

01:28:39   at because you can just do a whole micro [TS]

01:28:40   two-story with just the monopoly tokens [TS]

01:28:42   but this is that this is my question is [TS]

01:28:44   I mean and they just don't cover but i [TS]

01:28:46   thought i did notice the absence of a [TS]

01:28:48   videogame anything from this movie like [TS]

01:28:51   we will we're not going to touch that [TS]

01:28:52   stress crazy [TS]

01:28:54   plus it's the people making this movie [TS]

01:28:57   we're not necessarily people who were [TS]

01:28:59   kids when video games were as big a [TS]

01:29:03   thing as they wanted the TVs are drying [TS]

01:29:05   bubble CRT's to the entire premise this [TS]

01:29:08   movie is you as a kid you always imagine [TS]

01:29:10   what did what to my toys do when I'm not [TS]

01:29:13   playing with them i don't think anybody [TS]

01:29:15   ever thought I wonder what my Zenith [TS]

01:29:16   magazine of television 19 inch [TS]

01:29:18   television set my smile my playstation [TS]

01:29:20   are doing what I'm not thats I wanted [TS]

01:29:23   that all the time [TS]

01:29:24   wreck-it Ralph answer that for me so now [TS]

01:29:25   i got it at the turning on in [TS]

01:29:27   downloading system updates [TS]

01:29:28   yes case of the PlayStation mobile [TS]

01:29:30   intransitive if they were conscious [TS]

01:29:32   thought to say you know we're not going [TS]

01:29:35   to do that because we want to encourage [TS]

01:29:37   people to play and to use their [TS]

01:29:38   imaginations instead of sitting there [TS]

01:29:39   going pupae and I mean it really what it [TS]

01:29:42   comes down to is that no one goes to [TS]

01:29:43   sleep at night with their atari 2600 [TS]

01:29:45   snuggle up next to them but the the [TS]

01:29:48   tickets because no contrary mine for a [TS]

01:29:51   fall asleep spread-eagled on top of it [TS]

01:29:53   because I've been playing too late [TS]

01:29:54   honestly admit my son goes to sleep [TS]

01:29:56   surrounded by minecraft memorabilia [TS]

01:29:58   Charlie it was it was 1995 we're talking [TS]

01:30:02   about the 16-bit area right so they're [TS]

01:30:04   not quite as ubiquitous as the xbox kids [TS]

01:30:06   of today you don't part you don't [TS]

01:30:07   personify them this know there's no [TS]

01:30:09   physical thing for you to snuggle you do [TS]

01:30:11   not personify them and and and do like [TS]

01:30:13   you may you may get minecraft toys and [TS]

01:30:15   play with those toys but then the toilet [TS]

01:30:17   wrestling with not the actual video game [TS]

01:30:19   itself right all right well I guess [TS]

01:30:21   we're at the point where i should ask [TS]

01:30:22   everybody the big question was which is [TS]

01:30:24   where we think looking back and re [TS]

01:30:26   watching this where does this where is [TS]

01:30:28   this movie fall in terms of quality of [TS]

01:30:31   of pixar movies and movies in general [TS]

01:30:33   any thoughts Steve sure uh this is not [TS]

01:30:38   my favorite Pixar movie i think i [TS]

01:30:40   mentioned that in the pixar podcast I [TS]

01:30:43   think it's a really good film [TS]

01:30:46   and I respect the heck out of it as a [TS]

01:30:47   milestone but I don't really think pixar [TS]

01:30:50   came into their own until they figure [TS]

01:30:52   out how to make audiences cry enjoys to [TS]

01:30:55   redo well it when they got randy newman [TS]

01:30:57   out of the way and he wasn't just [TS]

01:30:59   shouting during the big emotional [TS]

01:31:00   development [TS]

01:31:03   yeah I know it's they always say that [TS]

01:31:04   it's harder to make audiences laugh and [TS]

01:31:06   cry in films but I think with animation [TS]

01:31:08   that's actually flipped a little bit and [TS]

01:31:09   the animator has so many more tools that [TS]

01:31:11   is disposable for making his disposal [TS]

01:31:14   rather from picking comedy but the [TS]

01:31:16   Unreal isn't at all i think makes drama [TS]

01:31:18   harder to pull off and I think when they [TS]

01:31:20   actually manage that within toy story 2 [TS]

01:31:22   is what the third third film [TS]

01:31:24   third thumbnail I think that's really [TS]

01:31:27   when they they they hit their stride toy [TS]

01:31:31   story 3 on the other hand might actually [TS]

01:31:32   be a little too maudlin but we can talk [TS]

01:31:34   about that when we get there so yeah [TS]

01:31:36   great film [TS]

01:31:37   I you know I think it's superb for the [TS]

01:31:39   time it's amazing what they pulled off [TS]

01:31:40   as sort of a what should really been [TS]

01:31:43   more proof of concept but I as i read in [TS]

01:31:47   the pixar can and I i think it's maybe [TS]

01:31:50   in my top five but it'd be pretty low in [TS]

01:31:51   that anybody else [TS]

01:31:54   well we talked about in the creativity [TS]

01:31:55   in episode of how i had cad models like [TS]

01:31:58   lifelong dream was to make a [TS]

01:31:59   feature-length computer animated movie [TS]

01:32:01   and I I always wanted such a thing to [TS]

01:32:05   exist from the moment I knew the [TS]

01:32:07   computer graphics were think that was [TS]

01:32:08   possible to see ms terrible demos on PBS [TS]

01:32:11   throwing a bunch of wireframes on the [TS]

01:32:13   fuzzy CRT said you know that the idea [TS]

01:32:15   that if we just keep improving this we [TS]

01:32:18   can make images that are you know it [TS]

01:32:21   indistinguishable from reality [TS]

01:32:22   believable and that you could make an [TS]

01:32:24   entire movie like with no actual people [TS]

01:32:26   and no cameras entirely in the computer [TS]

01:32:28   and toy story for me will always be tied [TS]

01:32:32   to that independent of the movie itself [TS]

01:32:34   it really helps that it was a good movie [TS]

01:32:35   and not a terrible stinker but just the [TS]

01:32:38   audacity and the technical achievement [TS]

01:32:39   it's kind of like you know the the [TS]

01:32:41   original Macintosh or like one of those [TS]

01:32:43   things where if you look back at it as a [TS]

01:32:45   product you have problems and it was [TS]

01:32:47   tentative and weird and awkward in ways [TS]

01:32:49   that the future iterations would not be [TS]

01:32:51   but it just stands alone as this thing [TS]

01:32:53   like maybe if you're not into it you [TS]

01:32:55   know that most the audience to start as [TS]

01:32:57   a movie but if if you have been way [TS]

01:32:59   being all your you know your short would [TS]

01:33:01   however all there was this point you [TS]

01:33:02   know life to say someone I think this [TS]

01:33:05   can be done and someone could do it and [TS]

01:33:07   like to have it be out there and other [TS]

01:33:09   people accept it as the end don't laugh [TS]

01:33:12   it off and going to ignore it's just [TS]

01:33:13   like yes they did it they did you know I [TS]

01:33:15   I can't you know that will always be the [TS]

01:33:17   place toy story has in my mind when I [TS]

01:33:20   rank it with the rest of the pixar [TS]

01:33:21   movies it's not even my paper toy story [TS]

01:33:24   movie little my favorite Pixar movie but [TS]

01:33:25   every time I come back to it [TS]

01:33:27   I'm surprised like at when I don't want [TS]

01:33:30   you for a long time it fades in my [TS]

01:33:31   estimation my god you know is the first [TS]

01:33:33   one whatever probably but everytime i [TS]

01:33:35   watch it again i can know what this [TS]

01:33:37   movie is not bad they did some really [TS]

01:33:39   good things it's much better than I [TS]

01:33:40   thought it was I was awkward in ways [TS]

01:33:42   that are totally excusable like the [TS]

01:33:44   original Macintosh for it being the [TS]

01:33:45   first 1i and I know everything that [TS]

01:33:48   follows from its own sort of kind of it [TS]

01:33:50   has a place in my heart there is like [TS]

01:33:51   the original I I agree completely it's [TS]

01:33:53   it's sort of like when I every now and [TS]

01:33:55   then maybe once a year once every year [TS]

01:33:58   and a half i'll end up watching us [TS]

01:34:00   Martin Scorsese's mean streets again [TS]

01:34:02   it's not a great movie but the reason [TS]

01:34:05   why I still find it so enjoyable is that [TS]

01:34:07   you can really see him finally and [TS]

01:34:09   figure out okay [TS]

01:34:11   this wasn't the movie that I've always [TS]

01:34:12   wanted to make but now I totally [TS]

01:34:14   understand what our purposes as a [TS]

01:34:16   filmmaker and I think toy story is [TS]

01:34:19   exactly the same thing it's a very it's [TS]

01:34:21   a really wonderful movie in and of [TS]

01:34:23   itself the characters worked really [TS]

01:34:24   really well there's so many nice movie [TS]

01:34:26   and nice moments in it but pretty much [TS]

01:34:28   you're looking at the a a filmmaker [TS]

01:34:31   making their first real movie and [TS]

01:34:34   realizing that i have a unique voice I [TS]

01:34:36   have a purpose for my storytelling that [TS]

01:34:38   i'm going to prosecute much much better [TS]

01:34:40   and my subsequent movies than this one [TS]

01:34:42   but this was a very valuable movie for [TS]

01:34:44   me to make I'm right with you guys in [TS]

01:34:46   that it's it's not even my favorite toy [TS]

01:34:48   story movie either but it's you know [TS]

01:34:51   it's always had a soft spot for me [TS]

01:34:54   because it was one of the earliest dates [TS]

01:34:56   i went on with my wife my now wife and [TS]

01:35:01   so you know I remember where I was at [TS]

01:35:03   the time and i don't i don't often [TS]

01:35:04   remember that with movies and I remember [TS]

01:35:06   what my life was like in the month that [TS]

01:35:09   i was that I first saw toy story and [TS]

01:35:12   when she was except [TS]

01:35:12   have your doll museum flashbacks that [TS]

01:35:17   this was a match made in heaven when I [TS]

01:35:19   said they're looking at the doll hitter [TS]

01:35:20   Erector Set spider going oh yeah and I [TS]

01:35:24   didn't run away you know huh [TS]

01:35:27   I think Berlin just passed out now i'm [TS]

01:35:29   here now that the golf thing is stuff [TS]

01:35:32   that's sugar for me David [TS]

01:35:33   yeah I grabbed that's rewarding passed [TS]

01:35:37   out may contain dolls and and i will say [TS]

01:35:42   i mean in the doll museum is part of why [TS]

01:35:45   I do feel a strong connection to the toy [TS]

01:35:48   story movies because I did that I did [TS]

01:35:51   you know make stories with these dolls [TS]

01:35:53   and action figures and all these things [TS]

01:35:55   which you can read about the magazine [TS]

01:35:56   and you know it its way to a story three [TS]

01:36:01   really hits me by the end so yeah I I i [TS]

01:36:06   love it and even though it is you know [TS]

01:36:08   again it's it's the first one and it's [TS]

01:36:12   just good it's fine if you know you can [TS]

01:36:14   overlook whatever little flaws it might [TS]

01:36:17   have because it if it weren't for that [TS]

01:36:21   we wouldn't have all these other [TS]

01:36:22   wonderful movies [TS]

01:36:23   yeah I I i had very little to add that's [TS]

01:36:27   that's how I feel too [TS]

01:36:28   it's it's almost like there's certain [TS]

01:36:30   kinds of things that are difficult to [TS]

01:36:32   look at critically and I think this 162 [TS]

01:36:36   of those boxes which on the one hand is [TS]

01:36:38   really awfully good but it is also in [TS]

01:36:41   retrospect like pretty primitive in some [TS]

01:36:44   ways compared to what we have now so [TS]

01:36:45   it's difficult to look at it it's [TS]

01:36:46   difficult to look at it with a clear I [TS]

01:36:48   and be able to you know try and like [TS]

01:36:51   bring those two things together in a way [TS]

01:36:53   that makes sense so I mean like when you [TS]

01:36:55   see something like what like that trip [TS]

01:36:58   to the moon movie and where you first [TS]

01:36:59   see people trying to do these crazy [TS]

01:37:01   stuff with what you can really do with [TS]

01:37:03   cinema beyond like filling people on a [TS]

01:37:06   stage and do these crazy cuts and crazy [TS]

01:37:08   effects and watch it now and it seems [TS]

01:37:09   real wackadoodle but I so it's hard for [TS]

01:37:12   me to separate in some ways but like I [TS]

01:37:15   don't you guys have seen the 2012 movie [TS]

01:37:17   called food fight [TS]

01:37:20   yeah well i was introduced to this buy a [TS]

01:37:24   house [TS]

01:37:25   no Marlon don't see the movies that are [TS]

01:37:27   in the flop that's at all right here now [TS]

01:37:30   in like that you kind of have to in my [TS]

01:37:33   masses inhalation of of the flophouse [TS]

01:37:35   the only movie that i was moved to go [TS]

01:37:38   out and find and actually look at was [TS]

01:37:40   why she loves something I was moved to [TS]

01:37:44   see but i haven't you got to be Cloris [TS]

01:37:46   Leachman completed so you're not [TS]

01:37:48   according to become completely that's [TS]

01:37:49   all there is to it but I mean you know [TS]

01:37:51   that's that's a that's a big fish in a [TS]

01:37:53   big barrel but it's but you know it's [TS]

01:37:55   amazing to look at something like that [TS]

01:37:57   with that technology and realize that [TS]

01:37:59   like gosh there's just so much more to [TS]

01:38:02   this and what we just see on the screen [TS]

01:38:03   there's there's so much to like you know [TS]

01:38:06   if you become a little bit of a pixar [TS]

01:38:08   nerd and you start digging in and [TS]

01:38:10   looking at stuff like the animatics and [TS]

01:38:11   how these things evolve over time it's [TS]

01:38:14   difficult to criticize and when I [TS]

01:38:16   criticizing the true sense of the word [TS]

01:38:17   it's difficult to have enough distance [TS]

01:38:19   from that to say something sensible you [TS]

01:38:21   know about my kind of what it means in [TS]

01:38:23   the creative cannon because it is kind [TS]

01:38:25   of primitive that is kind of creepy [TS]

01:38:27   there's a bunch of stuff that I bet they [TS]

01:38:28   look at in the same way that somebody [TS]

01:38:30   would look at like their work on Star [TS]

01:38:31   Wars and god I wish I could do that [TS]

01:38:33   differently and and that the same thing [TS]

01:38:36   I haven't had the compunction to go back [TS]

01:38:37   and won't fix it right because it could [TS]

01:38:39   totally do or quote unquote lose the [TS]

01:38:41   original copy quote unquote but but in [TS]

01:38:44   this instance like ADV amazing part is [TS]

01:38:46   it really really does still stand up i [TS]

01:38:48   mean there's a part of me that thinks [TS]

01:38:49   that you know toys are gonna be around [TS]

01:38:51   for a really long time and in kids and [TS]

01:38:53   parents and they're funny relationships [TS]

01:38:55   will be around for a long time and [TS]

01:38:56   you'll be able to look at this movie for [TS]

01:38:58   twenty fifteen hundred years and still [TS]

01:38:59   look at it go like not only is that an [TS]

01:39:01   amazing technical achievement for the [TS]

01:39:03   time but that's still a funny bit you [TS]

01:39:06   know that's still you know that still [TS]

01:39:08   works and personally like I'm a huge fan [TS]

01:39:11   of toy story 3i think toy story 2 in [TS]

01:39:14   some ways was really the apotheosis of [TS]

01:39:16   this of this series but like even just [TS]

01:39:20   looking back at that like I find it if I [TS]

01:39:23   sit there and now i have to talk on a [TS]

01:39:24   podcast about it i'll sit there and look [TS]

01:39:25   at things like what the wood texture on [TS]

01:39:27   the banister looked like in perspective [TS]

01:39:29   as he's flying down but like you don't [TS]

01:39:31   really watch it that way you watch it as [TS]

01:39:32   this wonderful thrill ride that [TS]

01:39:35   completely works on a lot of levels so [TS]

01:39:37   you know it's it's it's hard to have [TS]

01:39:38   distance [TS]

01:39:38   from it but like I I think it's just [TS]

01:39:41   still absolutely terrific if you just [TS]

01:39:43   looked at it as an as an exercise in [TS]

01:39:45   just in computer graphics it would it's [TS]

01:39:48   it's hair curling what they were able to [TS]

01:39:50   pull off and now i think i think it [TS]

01:39:53   still is still works today and and it's [TS]

01:39:55   it's difficult to do anything appraise [TS]

01:39:58   it for me [TS]

01:39:59   you mentioned a trip to the moon the [TS]

01:40:01   movie that I would compare this to [TS]

01:40:02   infuse regular cinema is more like [TS]

01:40:04   Citizen Kane because there had been [TS]

01:40:06   trips to the moon before they had been [TS]

01:40:07   Pixar's own shorts that's been the [TS]

01:40:09   commercials have been lots of computer [TS]

01:40:10   graphics but citizen Kane's are defining [TS]

01:40:12   the modern vocabulary of moviemaking toy [TS]

01:40:16   story in so many ways to find what a 3d [TS]

01:40:20   animated kids movie like yeah but we're [TS]

01:40:22   not just taking not just taking choppy [TS]

01:40:24   story and like unusual depth of [TS]

01:40:29   perception but being able to put that [TS]

01:40:31   all together in a way where you go wow [TS]

01:40:32   that actually really worked and not have [TS]

01:40:35   every shot be like flying through [TS]

01:40:36   Aladdin's cave or the ballroom scene not [TS]

01:40:38   have every shot but all we can spin the [TS]

01:40:40   camera anywhere like shoot it like a [TS]

01:40:42   movie right hot but with the 3d stuff in [TS]

01:40:45   the scene it is hard to separate the [TS]

01:40:46   tooth the two aspects of this film [TS]

01:40:48   because it is groundbreaking and and in [TS]

01:40:50   fundamental ways technically but I and I [TS]

01:40:54   was going to mention the same thing [TS]

01:40:55   which is now looking back of a a history [TS]

01:40:58   of of 19 years of computer animated [TS]

01:41:01   films imagine if the first computer [TS]

01:41:03   animated film had been you know Berlin [TS]

01:41:06   said food fight or just take some of the [TS]

01:41:08   lesser dreamworks azur something like [TS]

01:41:10   shark tale it would have been a [TS]

01:41:13   technical achievement but it would not [TS]

01:41:16   have had the other the artistic scores [TS]

01:41:19   like for the Olympic the Olympics judges [TS]

01:41:21   would have not given a high artistic [TS]

01:41:22   scores just the technical scores and and [TS]

01:41:25   i would argue that if you took this [TS]

01:41:26   screenplay today and made it you [TS]

01:41:29   wouldn't need to change a word and it [TS]

01:41:31   would still be a great movie with you [TS]

01:41:33   modern animation and and i think that [TS]

01:41:36   you know 19 years later it works it yeah [TS]

01:41:38   the technical stuff was really early and [TS]

01:41:40   now we look back on it and go well you [TS]

01:41:42   know 19 years later we could do a better [TS]

01:41:44   job at the time it was an incredible [TS]

01:41:46   milestone but the creative aspects of it [TS]

01:41:49   it's solid it's a it's and where I think [TS]

01:41:51   this whole job [TS]

01:41:52   I was so fortunate that a good movie [TS]

01:41:55   came out of this first movie or who [TS]

01:41:57   knows what would have happened but even [TS]

01:41:59   if you're a giant if you have your giant [TS]

01:42:00   nerd or a giant pics are especially if [TS]

01:42:02   you're a giant pig Sarner there's a [TS]

01:42:04   pretty simple thing you can do to [TS]

01:42:05   realize what a leap this is there is I [TS]

01:42:08   think two collections of pixar shorts [TS]

01:42:11   that you can buy on itunes that we watch [TS]

01:42:14   constantly and you know it's all the me [TS]

01:42:17   know the second the most of the first [TS]

01:42:20   part of the second volume are all the [TS]

01:42:21   shorts that they made as kind of the you [TS]

01:42:24   know short features that run before it's [TS]

01:42:26   all the things like a hawk god that [TS]

01:42:28   amazing you know the Toy Story 1 wherein [TS]

01:42:30   the fast-food place like just the butt [TS]

01:42:33   but the thing is if you want to really [TS]

01:42:34   appreciate this leap if you want to see [TS]

01:42:36   like on your own kind of personal graph [TS]

01:42:38   what this movie met going by the pixar [TS]

01:42:40   shorts volume 1 and see what they were [TS]

01:42:43   able to do in the amount of time that [TS]

01:42:46   like it took you to go to college will [TS]

01:42:48   delete that they made in like really [TS]

01:42:50   just a handful of years to go from [TS]

01:42:52   something like The Incredible creepiness [TS]

01:42:54   of the baby's diaper intent loi to be [TS]

01:42:56   able to like make us notice the texture [TS]

01:42:59   like on the stitching of what his hat [TS]

01:43:01   they did that in like of just a handful [TS]

01:43:03   of years so like I know what I'm saying [TS]

01:43:05   is even if you are like a hyper nerd [TS]

01:43:06   looking at this in terms of the [TS]

01:43:08   technology you can appreciate that like [TS]

01:43:10   they they did that I mean it's like the [TS]

01:43:13   whole like you know Ginger Rogers says [TS]

01:43:14   you know I did it all but backwards in [TS]

01:43:16   and high heels like when you watch like [TS]

01:43:19   an hour and a half long movie that [TS]

01:43:20   pulled all that stuff off i think it's [TS]

01:43:22   you appreciate it even more and I got [TS]

01:43:24   the feeling watching this movie aside [TS]

01:43:26   from the technical parts the same kind [TS]

01:43:27   of feeling to get watching like the [TS]

01:43:28   original Star Wars there's something or [TS]

01:43:30   even like using Apple products or [TS]

01:43:31   there's something pic sorry about this [TS]

01:43:33   and what pic sorry about is not so much [TS]

01:43:35   the 3d but it was kind of like that it [TS]

01:43:37   seems that it seems sharp and fast and [TS]

01:43:40   trusting of the audience to get these [TS]

01:43:42   jokes and like that will never that will [TS]

01:43:44   never fade like it just like in Star [TS]

01:43:46   Wars of things that are charming about [TS]

01:43:47   star wars are right there in the first [TS]

01:43:48   movie on the effects aren't that great [TS]

01:43:50   and there's some clunky things here and [TS]

01:43:51   there right it feels like Star Wars to [TS]

01:43:53   you this movie feel still feels like [TS]

01:43:56   Pixar to make is what do you expect from [TS]

01:43:57   Pixar movie i expect you know great [TS]

01:44:00   characters i expect the movie to be [TS]

01:44:02   smart i expected to trust the audience [TS]

01:44:05   it is going to follow on expected to not [TS]

01:44:07   mind if the audience doesn't get [TS]

01:44:08   everything I you know I i expected not [TS]

01:44:11   to be like long and boring or like a [TS]

01:44:14   movie just for kids expect to be just as [TS]

01:44:17   much for adults or if anything seems [TS]

01:44:18   like it's moving mostly for adults like [TS]

01:44:21   all those things we come to associate [TS]

01:44:23   with Pixar are present in this movie and [TS]

01:44:25   that that stands out to me like when I [TS]

01:44:27   watch it again like it feels like you're [TS]

01:44:29   like oh yeah it was pretty good but [TS]

01:44:30   really in the grand scheme of things [TS]

01:44:31   it's pretty good for Pixar movie and in [TS]

01:44:33   the end all movies all all animal movies [TS]

01:44:35   or any other writers like wow this has [TS]

01:44:37   that extra special pics are something [TS]

01:44:38   which automatically puts it way up above [TS]

01:44:40   like things like Shrek and stuff i would [TS]

01:44:42   i would rather watch Toy Story one over [TS]

01:44:44   again at any of the shrek movies [TS]

01:44:45   yeah yeah well and if you think about [TS]

01:44:47   all the great dancers and all the great [TS]

01:44:49   comedians and all the grape people who [TS]

01:44:51   are making movies at the same time as [TS]

01:44:53   Fred and Ginger but we remember Fred and [TS]

01:44:55   Ginger because there was something about [TS]

01:44:57   the alchemy of it wasn't it wasn't that [TS]

01:44:59   it was shot any better it was you know [TS]

01:45:02   what they did was special and it's the [TS]

01:45:05   same thing with this that it's not the [TS]

01:45:07   technology that read with that we really [TS]

01:45:09   talked about a really think about [TS]

01:45:10   anymore it's that it is a great story [TS]

01:45:13   and it is you mean you mean you fell in [TS]

01:45:16   love with these characters right off the [TS]

01:45:17   bat especially when you know you are a [TS]

01:45:20   toy and immediately you empathize with [TS]

01:45:23   both sides of that conversation [TS]

01:45:25   alright well I think we've reached the [TS]

01:45:26   end of talking about pixar oh I you know [TS]

01:45:30   I guess I like 22 is what I'm saying [TS]

01:45:32   it's one of my favorites and it still [TS]

01:45:33   holds up but it's yeah and i like it [TS]

01:45:35   tool like it too and I so I'd like to [TS]

01:45:39   thank my guests for joining me to talk [TS]

01:45:41   about this excellent and first animated [TS]

01:45:45   movie we didn't even talk about that [TS]

01:45:46   it's responsible for all those terrible [TS]

01:45:48   movies that were to come but you know [TS]

01:45:50   they did their part it's not their fault [TS]

01:45:52   so David lower thanks for being here [TS]

01:45:54   thank you for having me Andy and [TS]

01:45:57   cocktail pleasure as always it's been a [TS]

01:45:59   slice [TS]

01:46:00   John siracusa thank you for being here [TS]

01:46:02   to infinity and beyond and beyond [TS]

01:46:04   that's a great joke hey it's gotten [TS]

01:46:07   overstated but it's it's it's a great [TS]

01:46:09   joke see let's thank you Jason the word [TS]

01:46:13   I'm searching for I can't say because [TS]

01:46:14   there's preschool toys bread [TS]

01:46:16   and merlin mann thank you thank you and [TS]

01:46:21   everybody out there thanks for listening [TS]

01:46:23   to be uncomfortable i'm your host Jason [TS]

01:46:24   Steele will see you next time [TS]

01:46:39   yeah well good riddance you loony you [TS]

01:46:45   are a sad strange little man [TS]

01:46:47   farewell [TS]