HI #75: "World’s Most Interesting Podcast"
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I know you don't like talking about
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dreams but ok no it's not know that
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saying I get my first thing I can you
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don't normally open with dreams my
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friend so one might have been a
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follow-up and i feel kind of almost
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guilty now to our Norwegian listeners
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after my fun little joke last episode
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about Magnus Carlsen being from sweden
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who chose deliberately said and then
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pointed out he was no agent who that did
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cause a minor kerfuffle among Norwegians
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who love their Magnus mhm so apologies
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to those people it was a joke which I
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said very quickly it was check but how
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much feedback did you get ready because
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you are deliberately provoking feedback
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from people who listen to the podcast
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pause immediately in their rage and
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reply to you so I'm curious how much
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feedback along those lines that you
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actually get from people probably 20 to
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30 people that's not too bad that's not
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too bad and I did get a few tweets where
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people were like tweeting angrily at me
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and then a few seconds later like
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sending apology tweaks ok my favorite
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which i think is shared with the Twitter
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audience was i was looking at my
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timeline and there was one person who
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followed me two seconds later angrily
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tweeted me five seconds later sent a
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tweet saying sorry and you could see the
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whole thing play out on the Twitter
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timeline maybe sometimes quite funny i
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will point out that Magnus Carlsen did
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win the World Chess Championship did he
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ok did but in circumstances that make me
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unhappy
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oh why what happened well they play best
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of 12 which might sound silly because
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it's an even number because you get so
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many drawers in chess
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it's irrelevant whether you play an even
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or odd number of games really they won
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one game h and all of the rest were
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drawn this was against the Russian
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sergej karyakin em it was six points all
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after 12 games because you get half a
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point h4 draw and then the way they
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decided that was with this tiebreaker
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situation and there was this series of
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tiebreakers they were going to go
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through the first was in one day they
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played a best-of for rapid chess games
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I'll experience yeah maybe it was like
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our which game and if that didn't sorted
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out they were going to go to a faster
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version who and if that didn't work out
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they were then going to go to this form
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of chess called Armageddon Jess
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just got super EXTREME time limits and
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if no one has won by the time limit then
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the person playing the black pieces is
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declared the winner
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so there has to be a winner of
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Armageddon chess wow that seems deeply
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unfair on every level
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well I guess you know what has the
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advantage of starting and I don't know
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it didn't matter because it was sorted
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out in the rapid chess in the first
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investor for they played two drawers and
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then Carson one the next to him to be
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crowned world champion they already have
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like World Championships of these other
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speeds of chess and so I think deciding
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like the ultimate world chess champion
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in the long form of the game having it
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then decided with this other form of
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chess is deeply wrong em and also it's
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well-known that Magnus Carlsen is very
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good team is very good object so before
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effort but he's considered to have an
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even greater advantage over karaoke at
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speed chess and I think the feeling was
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once things sort of evened out he would
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be happy to play for the drawer because
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he thought he could take out the Russian
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in the space which he then did and i
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think this is unfair and a wrong way to
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have sorted out the world chess
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championship in the long form of the
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game to have the world champion
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basically decided by the guy who's the
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best at rapid chess and I'm not happy i
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still think houses the best chess player
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in the world and perhaps I think the
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fairest thing to have done with a draw
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championship would be for the defending
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champion to have kept his title anyway
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so I'm quite happy that Magnus Carlsen
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has remained world champion but I don't
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like that it was sorted out in this
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speedy chess format
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yeah i'm going to completely agree with
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you here i mentioned last time that you
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know I used to play chess and then I got
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kind of bored with the game when I
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realized it's about recognizing patterns
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but i did for awhile continue to play
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very rapid speed chess so where you put
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maybe five or ten minutes on the clock
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for both people that was fun because it
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was just a totally different game you
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couldn't spend a lot of time thinking
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about stuff but i imagine for
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grandmasters you are really honed in on
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the precise nature of the game that the
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difference between the long-form version
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and the hour version like might as well
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be because speed chess kind of game i
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totally agree with you it's like if
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they're doing a faster version of chess
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at the end it feels like they should
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almost just
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arm wrestle for the championship
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athletic field a little bit like we're
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going to decide the world champion of
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one game by playing another game i agree
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with you i don't like it i think they
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should just keep playing until somebody
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breaks the draw if it takes a hundred
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games like just keep playing that they
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should do that could have been pretty
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awesome
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just so you know by the way rapid chess
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can have different speeds between 10 and
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60 minutes in this particular case it
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was 25 minutes with 10 second increments
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/ move that's still reasonably fast
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interesting yeah the Blitz game if it
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went to that it would have been five
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minutes with three seconds experiments
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yeah and then if it went to the
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Armageddon game which kinda would have
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been Kirko it's actually white pieces
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get five minutes and the black pieces
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get four minutes on the clock
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yeah like I agree with you it would be
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kind of cool to see it go to this
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Armageddon version but it feels totally
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arbitrary this feels unsatisfactory this
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to me feels very much like what's called
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a penalty shootout in soccer
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are you familiar with a penalty shootout
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that's the thing at the end where they
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kick four times five times h soccer
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games drawn and a draw is unacceptable
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for some reason like it's a knockout
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game in the world cup of something that
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would just take penalty kicks from the
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penalty spot past the goalkeeper which
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also i've always thought was a deeply
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unfair way to decide a soccer game
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because of such a niche discipline of
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the game but I guess you've got to sort
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out drawers in a timely way sometimes I
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don't know I feel like if it matters as
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much we should just keep going and argue
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with you with the soccer games like just
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keep playing someone will eventually
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score a point we might be here for five
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hours but what's the problem
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let's keep going you do have a slight
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problem as well though this is another
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famous story that i'm assuming you won't
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be familiar with bit of a classic in the
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world of sport em and that is in tennis
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tennis sets our first to win six games
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okay but you have to win by two so you
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can win the set 6-4 6-3 or 60 but you
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can't win 6-5 huh
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ok so there's a margin you have to
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overcome yeah you have to win by two
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this is to compensate for the fact that
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person who serves in a game has a big
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advantage so you have got to break the
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other person serve at least once this is
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why I exist I like your intense sports
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voice you use this every once in a while
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when you're talking about four
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this is my favorite stuff it used to be
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in the olden times you would just keep
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playing mm and it could go to 86 or it
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could go to ten eight and you would keep
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playing until someone got an advantage
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of to someone broke the other person
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serve this resulted in the introduction
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of the tiebreaker
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so if set up Tenace gets to 60 who you
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play sort of a special kind of mini game
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called a tiebreaker is like a penalty
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shootout or like a blitz game of chess
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whoever wins that tiebreaker wins the
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set 7-6 you move on to the next set but
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in Grand Slam tournaments such as
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Wimbledon it's considered unfair to
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decide the whole match on tiebreakers so
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inside a men's game which is best to 5
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sets the first four sets can be decided
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by tiebreakers ok but if you get to two
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sets all and you're playing the fifth
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and deciding set it's considered unfair
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to decide that with a tiebreaker
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so it goes to the old-fashioned way of
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you have to win by two and like you're
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saying you could play forever you just
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keep taking it in turns games one person
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serving the other person serving until
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someone wins the set by 2m it was a very
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famous match in 2010
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Edwin wouldn't between a guy called John
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Isner from the United States and a guy
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called Nicholas mahout who is a French
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is no won the first set 6-4 and then my
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hope on the second set 6-3 and then the
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next two sets both went to tie breakers
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and we shared so it came to the fifth
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set both of them are quite good servers
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so it's hard to break their serve and
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this this set went for a long time and
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in fact it was finally won by Isner the
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final set was one 72-68 haha why I and
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the tennis match went for over 11 hours
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and was played over three days
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whoa one was serving than the other was
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serving and like they couldn't break
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each other serve and it just kept going
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it's been called the endless match wow
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so that's the danger you could have had
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with karyakin & Carlson imagine that a
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year-and-a-half just draw after draw
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after draw maybe in retrospect I am
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under estimating just how closely
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matched
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the best in the world can be and sew my
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formula of just keep playing until you
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break the draw might actually be a
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terrible idea under many more
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circumstances then I think it would be I
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would still prefer or you just say that
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the world champion retains their crown
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if they can't be beaten in the format is
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given to the Challenger I don't know I
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guess that's to be unsatisfying in this
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day and age but but i think that seems
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not unreasonable
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ok i do have to say Brady they're
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listening to you describe lovingly all
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of the little details of the sport which
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rapidly fly by me as soon as you have
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said them i feel like i am forever
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dreading and looking forward to the
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inevitable day when you take me to a
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cricket phone and explain all of the
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crickets like this is ben on our list of
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things to do for a long time I do want
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to have it happen but listening to you
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talk now and I have that feeling of like
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that'll be a fun day and also an
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making educational YouTube videos as
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the person listening like in his case
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with cricket knows essentially nothing
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a situation where it's hard as the more
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slightly tweaked since and honed and
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refined and signed off and they have now
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objects and things like lighthouses and
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fishing boats and then on the other side
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abstract blurred pixelation of the same
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images but that was all well and good
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circulation yet this is one of these new
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stories that has about 18 folks starts
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designs have been finalized they don't
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start hitting people's wallets and
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purses who until around the middle of
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next year but one thing that i did find
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who said these banknotes have been
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described as the world's most beautiful
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banknotes in quotes and I thought that's
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interesting i wonder who did that and
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seems like there's no real source to it
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designers mum ahead of the bank or some
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official design organization and it did
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make me think it's amazing how just
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throwing something out there and
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especially putting it in quotes
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actually I've got an idea I'm gonna do
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it tweet i'm just gonna write hello
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what I'll do then is I put a little dash
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26 day because when you do that as well
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it seems like more official
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alright i'll retweet it helps spread
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may have the world's most beautiful
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banknotes and they're now being
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discussed on the world's most
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I've been you are a fan of these
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banknotes as am i what do you think of
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world's most beautiful banknotes are you
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willing to endorse that again i'm a fan
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of these notes but that exact quote like
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the world's most beautiful i'm not sure
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i could sign off on that maybe they're
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the world's coolest banknotes that's
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what it should be right
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Brady Haran 2016 world's coolest
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banknotes but what this doesn't seem to
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me like is is almost designed by
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committee like they've made some bold
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choices
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it doesn't mean that i necessarily like
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everything that they have done but I
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like that they're visually distinct
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banknotes they look different from other
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stuff that I've seen thumbs up on this
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norway but most beautiful i'm not 100%
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sure I like your description way better
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maybe the bank of norway will update
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their website have my description
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instead that would be a code for the
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their travel luggage to take a look at
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a bright idea luggage with power that's
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actual electrical power is what they're
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talking about here
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battery on my phone actually paranoid
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run into this problem all the time where
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my phone just runs out of charge when
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I'm traveling even if i put in low-power
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mode it becomes a thing that I have to
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babysit but away luggage with their
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built-in battery will allow you to
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an incredible piece of mind it takes the
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phone's battery from something that you
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have to worry about and that you have to
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babysit to something that you just never
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have to think about but this is just one
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of the features that impressed me with
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they're also using just such
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high-quality materials it just feels
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like a really solid suitcase as soon as
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you touch it so many suitcases they're
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really flimsy right the zippers don't
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sleep very well at the at the outside
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materials don't feel sturdy and strong
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not this suitcase
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it's made with premium German
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polycarbonate unrivaled in strength and
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lightweight the other thing that really
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suitcase you need to change the way you
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live right now if you think two wheels
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between four wheels and two wheels on a
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suitcase is just as big as the
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difference between two wheels and no
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wheels being able to take a suitcase and
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have it have it by your side all the
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time like a really well heeled dog
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changes the way you can move around an
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airport the suitcases always just right
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by your side it changes the way you
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interact with lines it changes the way
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you move in a crowd
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it changes the turning radius that you
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can make when you're moving around
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it's so fantastic but not all four
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wheels suitcases are made the same so
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streets under all sorts of different
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circumstances to make sure that these
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wheels worked really well and i have to
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say they pass with flying colors
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there are so many features about this
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thing I couldn't possibly run through
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them all but i just i do want to mention
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just a couple other
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things they have a tsa approved
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combination lock that is built right
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into the top of the bag to help secure
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your belongings but also make sure that
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the security agencies in the United
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ever want to take a look on the inside
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that's the thing that will really ruin
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your day right American security in the
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airlines is enough of a hassle
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it's really unpleasant when they tear
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open your bag to get inside of it a tsa
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approved lock that will avoid a really
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unpleasant situation on the other end of
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your flight
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has to have a tsa approved lock on it
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of course the carry-on size is compliant
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with all us major airlines while also
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maximizing the amount that you can
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possibly pack inside of it with this
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clever patent-pending compression system
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that they're using which is quite neat
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there's just so much about this that
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makes it a really great suitcase
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it's obviously like an engineering
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traveling and packing they're so
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for you and if you don't like it you can
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structure fire just down the straight I
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rest you're throwing my gear and jump in
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arrival there was heavy smoking showing
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oh no hehe lapses into normal language
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as we entered the house so we now know
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what the structure is what I somehow
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was listening to the story of Derek the
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it was absolutely incidental I just
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yeah I like that one and it does sound
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very legitimate with the firefighter
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lingo that that's fine yeah i mean like
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all these stories it could be made up i
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believe it i believe it's true there was
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no photographic verification provided
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which i always enjoy in emails but for
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all i know that could be a work of
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fanfiction but if so well dad yet i'll
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let it pass but next time if you're a
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firefighter saving a dog in a burning
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building we would like the headcam
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time just to be sure that would get your
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interaction from a while ago I can't
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believe I forgot to tell the story but
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accidental pun form today because this
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will be a truncated version of a story
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about trunks because as you know huh
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I don't mind an old trunk an old steamer
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trunk from the good old days you have a
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magnificent one in your the coffee table
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in our lounge is a lovely old steamer
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trunk with old initials stenciled on it
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still some old stickers from the days
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when it was going on ships and things i
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love that they've got like names painted
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on them and have quite a bit of a story
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to that my life that I've got a history
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and they're quite useful for storing
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things as well so it's win win win so I
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Zealand who came across a trunk they
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thought i might like I've got it here in
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the room next to me you can tell how the
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story is going to end already
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it was used on a passenger liner called
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the SS ionic not believers in ionic bond
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the passengers name which is painted on
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a rather ornately is miss Heron bloom
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but it's always been my dream to find a
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trunk with like be JH but to have one
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with my surname which is reasonably
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unusual woman was a go so this is tim
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from museums and look what i just found
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in an antique store like around the
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hmm and I was like can you go back and
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take some more pictures of a say went
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back and took more pictures and send
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them to me and I was like you just gotta
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buy that thing get a buyer for me now
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so he did a national guy paid him the
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for you got a few new zealand dollars
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knocked off the price and then he
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shipped it to me i think the shipping
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cost more than the trunk itself right of
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course of course and it now has pride of
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place in one of my officers here i'll
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post a picture in the show notes that
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people want to see my miss Heron trunk
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is quite big
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I think you could probably fit seven
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Audrey's and maybe have us this is the
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trunk large enough first 72 arts
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yeah maybe and you have to pack them in
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tightly of course of words that's a
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decent size but it was that was an
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absolute code so thank you very much
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that isn't absolute q i have just
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delighted at the idea of you doing
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antique shopping through twitter is
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essentially what you're doing like
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crowd-sourced antique shopping is what's
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occurring here this is amazing
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can I put a shout-out for the other
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thing I'm in the market for the moment i
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sent any teams can help me out with my
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antiquing
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oh god please go right ahead i guarantee
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you this will not be cut
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ok the thing I'm in the market for at
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the moment and I'm finding it hard to
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find and I do have very strict
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requirements because the room I need to
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get in is very difficult room to
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negotiate large objects into and also
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obviously it has to be in the UK because
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it's a big heavy thing i want what i
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text studies bench with a couple of
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vices on it you know those old wooden
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ones that have got like a million old
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marks and dents in them i don't know
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what you mean a text Eddie bench
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what do you call the subject at school
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where you would do that would work and
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things like that
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oh I got like a shop class i think is
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that what you mean they're called tech
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studies in the UK and in no case
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Australia so I want those old wooden
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benches where you would do would work at
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school on probably from an old school
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things engraved in it and I have a real
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history in a story that i might like you
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know buffered up and polish it a bit
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that would look nice would not i think
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that would look at it that would look
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absolutely lovely
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so I'm on ebay looking at them so don't
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just send me that obvious ones on ebay
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because I would have seen them already
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it does have to be a little on the small
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side but if you know you work in a
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school in the UK and you're throwing
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away your text of these benches and
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there but i will be fussy well in
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particular my wife especially will be
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fancy but i'm in the market so let me
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keep an eye out people maybe we need to
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coordinate this on a separate thread on
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the hello Internet subreddit or
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something we'll see if we can try and
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crowdsource this for you in an organized
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fashion I would love that if we had like
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a just little subreddit for helping
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Brady find his woodworking bench
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I didn't realize that you immediately
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are jumping to a dedicated subreddit big
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this is going to happen frequently ina
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not a dedicated separate just a threat
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just a thread
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alright i'll i'll put a thread in the
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show notes for people to try to organize
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this for you Brady I really want this to
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well its most interesting podcast so
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gray we're approaching Christmas we are
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approaching Christmas of rapidly i have
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a couple of Christmas related items
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something I've complained about before
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is becoming an increasingly common
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complaint in the world at large but it
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has just reached ridiculous proportions
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now and there is some of the packaging
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being used by amazon for receiving
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products i'm talking oversized packaging
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mhm the other day I had to buy two rolls
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of brown-paper you know sort of the
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butcher's type paper using numberphile
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videos like a roll of wrapping paper
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basically that size and two rolls put my
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order in a couple of days later for
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whatever reason the person who is
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supplying it only had one roll available
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and i had to wait a week for the second
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one so only one arrived and i am not
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kidding
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the box it arrived in was the size of a
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human coffin
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I could have fit inside this box and I
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open it up and I had lots and lots of
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like stuffing paper in there to stop
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this one small roll of paper from
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bouncing around me and I took out my one
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little roll of wrapping paper and I had
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this enormous box that was so big I had
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to take it to the tip because i couldn't
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put it anywhere else
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no really mm and then a few days later I
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happened to be out when the second roll
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arriving and sure enough it arrives in a
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second coffin and the person because I
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wasn't gonna take inside the delivery
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man or delivery woman had to leave it
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outside my house by the front lens and
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it was raining so also got rained on the
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stuff was okay in the end but i had to
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go to the tip a second time this time
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with a huge sopping wet cardboard
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coffins and throw that one in the tip as
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well and i was at the tip and I was I
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was throwing this thing away and some
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other guy was throwing something away
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next to me and I said look at this could
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you believe it i got in this huge thing
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just for a small thing of wrapping paper
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that which sent him off on a rant about
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all the things he'd been receiving from
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amazon with like he received one thing
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from amazon that had stuffing paper in
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there as well for protection
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he measured and I had 30 meters of paper
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in this box or condensed down to look
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after whatever was in the box
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he was so amazed he measured the paper
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because he couldn't believe that this is
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getting crazy it and I know they're
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doing it for efficiency reason and i
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know you don't care that much about
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small things to help the environment
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when only big things matter but this is
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getting ridiculous
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you are assuming things here and one of
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these is like this is exactly the kind
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of case where I think it does matter to
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care because how many packages amazon
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ship to my house alone hundreds a day as
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far as i can tell right so if like if
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you can get amazon to make their
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packaging slightly smaller using less
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materials like I think that's the kind
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of thing that does have a reasonable
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impact and it works at scale so i assume
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like you're probably assuming that
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spreadsheets they're using having a
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smaller number of different sized boxes
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to work with is more efficient for them
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than having exactly the right size box
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but I have definitely been
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super-effective getting boxes that just
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seemed comically miss sized for the
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object that is being shipped and my
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personal favorite example was just a
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couple months ago i bought like a USB
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thumb drive that I needed to transfer
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some files back and forth so anything
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that was literally the size of my thumb
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came in a box that was the size of a
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shoebox
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but don't just write off like oh I don't
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care about the environment and small
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changes like this is exactly the kind of
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thing that I think does matter in trying
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to pressure a company like Amazon into
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using more efficient material because
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they must ship a bazillion boxes
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absolutely everywhere
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the only thing that's given me a small
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amount of sympathy for them which is
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happening the last week or two as
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projekt revolution has started ramping
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up as I can see why you would want to
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overprotect items
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mm because dealing with every email and
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every everything about some mind a bit
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of damage to a project revolution has
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become difficult and time-consuming and
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I completely understand i'm not
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complaining because if you know that's
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how it isn't for every person that one
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record is very important to them and
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it's not right it's not right so I'm not
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complaining about the people
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mm but it does make me realize that
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it's difficult and like no matter what
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you do or how well your package
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something you know things happen and
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then it becomes difficult so I have got
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a little bit of sympathy for
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overprotecting items but you do not need
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a coffin for a rather paper or a shoe
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box for a thumb drive your learning that
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being a one-man logistics distributor is
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actually quite difficult
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that's Julie over there yeah and I do
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feel like that despite having a
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logistics company that supposed to be
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doing the work for my customer support
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is always quite a lot of it whenever you
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do anything anyway we're getting there
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people have been sending loads of photos
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of them with their records and that's
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really been exciting so keep them coming
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and I hope you're all enjoying the vinyl
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edition those of you who are partaking
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let's stay on christmas day because i
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have another Christmas story i'm really
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curious as to what you're going to think
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about is a moral standpoint or rightness
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or wrongness ok there's a bit of fun
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neither you or I have human children I
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have doggie children but we don't have
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human children that's fantastic way to
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phrase that that's correct yes
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neither of us have human children i
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agree with some of my relatives do have
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been spending a bit of time with
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recently and I was with my nephew
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recently and his parents and i was
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introduced to a piece of technology that
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they are using to help with behavior
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control will i'm familiar with all the
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different modes of behavior control of
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children leave and I'm also quite
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familiar with christmas-related ones I
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don't know if you have you ever heard of
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the elf on the shelf
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I have heard of this and it just sounds
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creepy to me but I've only heard about
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this in passing so my understanding of
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the elf on the shelf is that it's a
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stuffed toy elf that you put on the
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shelf and then you tell the child that
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it's like Santa's spy who's watching you
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all the time to make sure that you're
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being good is that the basic idea of the
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alfond the shell and that show yet
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that's aI don't know if it's stuffed by
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it is it's a toy elf movie
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it comes with a book and you read the
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child the book at the side of the
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christmas season which explains the
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backstory I don't know what the
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backstory is and they give the Alpha
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name and they're not to touch the over
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there told if they touch the off the
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world will end or something like so
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trust me too
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gonna absolutely petrified actually elf
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and I have heard stories of children
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calling 911 in fear after they have
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touched their off accidentally k sounds
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a little too effective
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uh-huh yeah yeah but usually sitting in
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accessible places to help with this no
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changing thing but every night while the
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child is a sleep it moves i think we all
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know how but that's not saying case
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there any belief is listening
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ok also terrifying ok excited to be like
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our look at last night they only move
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from the top of the Christmas tree to
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the kitchen cupboard or something but it
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is watching them and so you can use this
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with little helpful reminders like all
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you sure you want to break that
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christmas ornament when the help of
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others watching so it's very effective
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I sometimes have jerked why can't you
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just use this all year round but I
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imagine it would lose its effectiveness
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and anybody works when their Christmas
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presents an imminent we have a bit of
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carrot and stick going on
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so anyway that's the off on the Shelf
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it's been quite a zeitgeist you think I
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think for a few years now that sounds
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absolutely terrifying the way to
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describe it i didn't realize that the
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elf moves that sounds like the plot of a
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horror movie
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I would just think like maybe the elf
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gets closer write the words you're being
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right you wake up in the morning right
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in the alphas right next to your head
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don't touch it attractive but it's right
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if you've been very bad or like we go
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into a room and it's like 90 of them hit
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you have a string and you better get
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through it my legs and back without the
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alphas brought all of his friends
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because you've been very naughty writing
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and seeing what you're doing like a god
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it's happened to the awful but all you
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have like 10 of them surrounding your TV
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remote control anyway I quite like it
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because it's like you know may I like
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books and toys and it's a bit
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old-fashioned it seems like something
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from another time
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it really does it seems like a bygone
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tradition or something it's surprising
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that the new thing but technology has
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moved on and last week I was shown as
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sort of a more modern equivalent
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apparently there's a few of these around
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I've just got one of them
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this is an app you have on your phone
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and I've got one here called Santa Claus
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it's the 2016 version of elf on the
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shelf because what happens is you
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configure the app and if you pay money
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you can configure it with even more
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power but i'm just using the free
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version here so i'm using edit most
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limited and what happens is this
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that allows Santa Claus to call your
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phone in front of your child then
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conversations can in see you let me give
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you an example
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I'm gonna open up my app now what is
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this app called it's called Santa Claus
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so i've configured the app i'm now going
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to shed your the call you can
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pre-program very save as and I've
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programmed 14 someone called gray who is
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my five-year-old child health ok and you
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can choose a long list of reasons for
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the Santa coaling the reason for this
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call is going to be a check on behavior
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to check if behaving and then you can
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tell the app when this mysterious phone
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call is going to arrive i'm going to say
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let's have immediately so say my
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five-year-old Gray's being naughty or I
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want to modify his behavior i feel
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really uncomfortable right now but i
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will sneakily pull out my app i will
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configure this call and let me press the
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button and then what happens in a few
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seconds my fine we'll go black so it
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looks like its inactive because kids
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notice stuff and then my phone has about
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to go black
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it's gone black and here we go what
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happens so good on speaker and a picture
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of Santa Clauses incoming call from
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Santa Claus with a red or a green find a
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press grain to accept the call has a
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picture of Santa oppressed
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there's even a timer like a plan who
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would have
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my name Trey
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I need to have you on the phone I
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yes I'm five
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I just want
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she all bigger promise
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so anyway I just hang up on sanchez Cole
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ended I swear to god that feels like
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real life black mirrors somehow just
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feel like something out of a button
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I couldn't decide if it was good or bad
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I was talking to my nephew's parents
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about it because they've been using it
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but it's gotten to a point there with a
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bit scared to use it because their
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little boy he's a great little boy honey
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like he did something naughty the other
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day which he rarely does and the minute
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he did it he like looked at the phone
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yeah and he thought said it was about to
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coldplay Santa keeps calling whenever
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he's snorting oh he looked at the phone
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and started like trembling so the
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parents like I can go to start this but
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I mean when you first had that thing
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ring and started playing the music okay
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this is the first time I've ever heard
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it but I thought man that would take
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about one exposure to develop a movie in
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response right to that music writer just
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like horror and I'm in trouble in the
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same way that you know you should never
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set a sound or a tune that you like as
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your alarm clock in the morning because
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you will grow too low that song that
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thing makes it feel like Santa Claus is
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terrifying and the whole piece easy when
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you're sleeping he knows when you're
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awake things like obviously that's
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creepy if you think about it but
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something about the way that I have says
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that was like Santa directly addressing
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you that like I watch you while you
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sleep it's ok it's a cunning to it looks
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just like a phone call you know it's got
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the green and the red icons gotta
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counter when the phone call starts like
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a time after her and like a little icon
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for Santa so you can see the person
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who's calling its its devious yeah I
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find that scary and terrifying i can see
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how this stuff is useful for parents but
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something about it makes me uneasy in a
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way that I can't quite define if you are
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willing to pay
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there's all sorts of things you can
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build into it like me you can take a
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picture of your house and then when you
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in conversations with Santa a picture of
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your house will come up and if you
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haven't got a chimney hill explain how
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he can get into your house without a
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chimney and so the whole charade their
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asset is really really elaborate it's
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really full-on would you use that on a
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human child Brady would you feel
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comfortable using that on a human child
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well we're about to talk about some
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things about Santa Claus that young
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people might not want to hear right
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we're going to discuss them center
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secrets people
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here's your warning hoho so in that
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context how is it different from what
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we've been doing all their lives with
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Santa Claus what we've been doing this
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for years anyway this is just a new tool
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in the arsenal we take kids to sit on
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Santa's lap and tell them that Santa and
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he said services what you want for
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christmas and I'm gonna bring your stuff
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for Christmas so to look at this app and
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say that's outrageous how can we be to
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saving children like this like we don't
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already i'm not saying that it's
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outrageous
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I'm just saying that it feels like a
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weaponized version of the traditional
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story like the regular thing is just
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fine but this is tuned so precisely that
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it becomes different in kind rather than
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just different amount that's what it
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feels like right at the weaponized Santa
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is like precision targeted to press all
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of the buttons of a child and that's
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what makes me feel a little bit
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uncomfortable as opposed to oh there's
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this folk tale that we tell that happens
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to be useful around the holidays but we
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haven't liked refined it into this
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precise thing I think that's what I feel
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a little bit weird and uncomfortable
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with that have I ever told you my story
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about learning the truth of health
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I don't think so tell me Brady so my
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parents were always quite big on me
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knowing the truth of life quite early
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they treated me quite grown up so I was
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told the shocking truth about Santa
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Claus quite early and I was told the
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same time as my poor sister was 18
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months younger say she had 18 months
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less magic that may em and i was told i
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was very specifically told not to tell
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my other friends soon as they still
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believe in santa ana was explained to me
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that the utility of Santa my the others
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must be allowed to believe right right
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so sure enough the next day I went to
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scott when you know what the first thing
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I did was
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right I code together over lads and said
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guys I got some big days right
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this is day one of investigative
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journalists Brady the story is I've
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break the story to like other boys in my
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class in 15 of them but the problem was
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the most popular boy in school like you
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know the cock of the roost or whatever
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you want to call him moving guy called
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Simon he didn't believe me he was a big
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Santa believer
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so he told all the other boys in the
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class guys Brady's talking rubbish
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mm and I was basically ostracized for
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the day I was a pariah right Simon had
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decided Brady was telling miss truths
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about Santa Claus so I was frozen out
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obviously that not Simon went home and
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told his parents and said look radiant
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school has been said this stuff but he
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obviously said his parents but don't
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worry I've taken care of it and his
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parents obviously felt sorry for me
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so they secretly told Simon and Simon
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look the brady was telling the truth and
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so I'm and got the same talked that
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night that you know the shocking truth
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that was so funny the next day like at
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Simon like convened all the boys in the
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class and we also have stood in a circle
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and he was like guys I got some big year
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Brady was telling the truth and I then
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everyone believed Simon told them it
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wasn't real so for de Santa like cost
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matin but you know my social status but
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then the next day I was like redeem
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right but you got another source on the
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record right that's what made it all the
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more believable
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I should have done that in the first
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place i should have had two sources with
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that was my mistake with better anyway I
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learned from that what was your Santa
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experience as a youngster I don't have a
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particular memory of freaking out the
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what I do remember is that there was a
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period of suspicion that I had as a
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child I was like I'm not sure the center
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stories holding together right and my
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parents cleverly delayed it for maybe
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one or two Christmases by modifying the
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story slightly by saying oh yes
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obviously some of the presents are from
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us and some of them are from Santa and
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whatever age I was I was like oh that
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explains some of these inconsistency
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edges got a longer that for a little
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while longer but yeah i know some people
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dramatic discovery of the terrible truth
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about Santa I have no memory of when
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this occurred or out the details
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happened i don't remember it all when I
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found out the truth I'd love paper to
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put in the credit notes for this show
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how they found out about Santa Claus I'd
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be really interested find that out i was
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a shock to me and my sister remember
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that because it was done while
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decorating the Christmas tree of all
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my mom was decorating the Christmas tree
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and called us in to tell us that kind of
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had this like evil aspect to it there
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was a few seconds of like stunned
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silence and like processing the
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information i think the first question
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is when the president comes from of
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course and that was explained and then
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it was what about the Easter Bunny
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weekend like said easter bunny died that
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day too right we got the sad news for
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you about him
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yeah and then there was like this more
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like desolation for like a minute or so
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notice how the Tooth Fairy same all
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these people just don't like came
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crashing down at once he's a weird moral
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dilemma about what to do with children
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and Santa Claus like if I had human
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children i'm not sure how I would handle
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that situation with Santa because
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obviously some people grow up and feel
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super betrayed of physic ways that like
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it as an adults they still kind of feel
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quite strongly about and I could never
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quite figure out is this a good thing
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that we do as a society or is it not a
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good thing that we do as society overall
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is it a good lesson for children to
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learn like oh the adult world not only
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will it lie to you but they will be like
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a vast conspiracy to keep the truth away
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from you like in a way that you could
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not possibly believe is a child like
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maybe that's a good lesson for people to
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learn i don't know like is that the
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lesson Santa teaches us all I don't
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think that's the lesson that people take
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away from Santa I think they take away a
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lesson of personal disappointment so I
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have very mixed feelings on the cultural
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institution of Santa as it relates to
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children
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what do you think Brady i love i love i
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love Santa like i love christmas i love
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that like the idea the decorations this
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like idea of Santa I'm a little bit more
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ambiguous about the enormous conspiracy
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around santa is he related to children
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are it'll just gives us it gives the
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kids pleasure it gives us adults
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pleasure as we wink at each other and
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tell the
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stories yeah sort of relate to something
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you said earlier that which I find a
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strange development incentive closet
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you said how we bring kids to see Santa
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and have him sit on Santa's lap and i
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have noticed with the friends that I
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have who have children who are in the
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Santa age range that all of the mall
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Santas the rule is now that you are not
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allowed to sit on Santa's lap and so
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they all have pictures of their child
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sitting next to Santa Claus instead of
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sitting on his lap shaking his head
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yeah I assume that it's part of this
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like bizarre paranoia that the UK has
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over pedophiles like home mall Santa
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right might be a dangerous situations
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like I can't imagine a less dangerous
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situation then the mall Santa but the
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thing that bothers me about it is it's
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like okay
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the character of Santa Claus is someone
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who loves kids right and so it's like
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obviously he said the kid on on
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someone's lap when you turn the
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photograph into a child sitting next to
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Santa now suddenly it looks really weird
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right now suddenly looks like maybe
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there's something going on with that
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Santa right so it's like everything was
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fine before and then in your weird
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effort to be like oh we don't have to
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worry about pedophiles like you make the
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world looks like it's more dangerous
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when children can't even sit on Santa's
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lap so I have been annoyed by a series
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of photos that i have seen like this
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where the parents are saying oh you're
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not allowed to have the child sit on
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Santa's lap we have to sit the child
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next to Santa and look like a pretty big
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gap in between it's just weird it's
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really weird and I don't like it and I
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think it's one of these cases where the
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world has gone super paranoid I great
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and your grace child protection like is
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a serious issue and there have been a
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couple stories in the last few weeks in
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the UK that have exacerbated the
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situation not involving Santa Claus
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sighs and who but i think the child
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protection thing can go a little bit far
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and you're right it suddenly makes it an
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issue in like it ties the Santa with the
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allegation
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yeah exactly it totally does it's a case
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of trying to make things better but like
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you've made it worse
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you make it said it looks so much more
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suspicious
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braggy than humble little so I'm gonna
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brag a bit but there is also some
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what cola and you naming system and I
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brag humble know what I don't know
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the exact ratios of how much humble
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yeah okay so my sister who lives in
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singapore was out the other day in for
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her anniversary at dinner and her and
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her husband got talking to a couple next
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to them and they got talking about
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mathematics one of the people next one
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was really into mathematics and I think
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my brother and northern said oh my
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brother-in-law is a guy in England and
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he makes videos about mathematics soon
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and suddenly this guy looks at my sister
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was that
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yeah and like he was so excited and then
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all the family was called over and like
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my sister had to pose for photos with
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them and her anniversary didn't she had
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to pose for photos with the guy sitting
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at the table next to them because like
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she was the sister of like someone who
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makes numberphile videos
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mhm so this was a funny story and as you
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know i enjoy any chance I have to lord
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over my sister had she like hated that
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say i've been i've been giving her a
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hard time right that makes it 10 *
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better right
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exactly so not only do I feel like I'm
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mr. big famous numberphile guy who makes
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the videos even my sister has to let
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post photos right like great somebody
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else rubbed it in my sister's face
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perfect example that was all well and
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good and a couple of days later
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remember that's this kelvin medal from
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the institute of physics that the
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symbols one we had the award ceremony
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for that the other day who so we all
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dressed up in in a penguin suits and
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went to this award ceremony and it was
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really good and again we were feeling
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like the big superstars because we were
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getting our prize and before the awards
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ceremony starts I'm told by one of the
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organizers I say those two young people
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over there like young gifted physics
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students and they're going to be
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presenting your award because they're
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presenting some awards kind of United's
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like an initiative to get young talented
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students
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engage with professional physics and a
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treat for them and it's a nice idea
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isn't having school students present the
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awards who and the guy says to me and I
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think you know it's a bit of a daunting
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experience with all these old physicist
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around I think that get a real thrill
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out of getting to like meet you and have
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a chat with you because you know you're
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like the YouTube star person with
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celebrity yeah so I'm like of course I'd
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be really happy to talk to them to be
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really great what a great idea so I went
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over and spoke to them and I was talking
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to one of the guys and I'm like hi Brady
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and it was explained to him that I was
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getting an award he was like I was
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really nice on that yeah make these
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we're getting this award for sixty
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symbols and someone that's a deal to dr
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to watch sixty symbols and he's like
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blank never heard of it with it and I'm
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like okay let's put me down a peg and
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I'm like so I'm trying to make
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conversation with this guy who doesn't
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know me from Adam and I'm just another
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boring old person to it so I said Mr do
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you watch youtube videos like science
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youtube videos these are here I really
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love them mmm and I'm like oh tell me
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some of the ones you watch and I was
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hoping he'd like to say like numberphile
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a periodic videos or something and I
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could go yeah hey guess who I am
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mm so he starts listing off the ones he
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likes nothing I make gets a mention
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I'll tell you that right now but the one
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he mentions first that he absolutely
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loves is veritasium I'll of veritasium
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videos in my favor
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so after what happened to my sister I'm
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now forced to resort to Fame by
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association and I'm like uh yeah I know
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Derek like I hang around and then he's
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like our i really like the source and
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I'm looking haha I don't Michael too but
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like he's so excited that I know Derek
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em so I i send Derek text he's in
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california and i say i'm a some awards
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ceremony try to impress some kid who
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doesn't know me
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nobody like i try to i'm trying to
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because if it had been my job to make
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his night like I've been told he'd get
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through from speaking to me and he
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didn't give two hoots about me I feel
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like you really just crossed told me
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it's like okay this is sort of a funny
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story about how someone doesn't know who
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you are and there can be these really
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weird awkward social situations where if
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you make your living in a public way
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and like someone introduces you in a way
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where they expect someone to know who
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you are
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like I've been in some of the situations
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and I hate it when someone introduces me
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like as this person they expect someone
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else to know as I can please never do
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that is it no upside to it can be super
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awkward so like I have so much sympathy
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for you in this situation and the odds
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are so small because like our audiences
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I really so small when this game of
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things the chances of someone knowing
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it's a money
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yeah it's this very interesting thing
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with YouTube fame where it's like it can
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be large but it's so narrow at the same
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time it's not generalized Fame like
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celebrity so yeah I go out of my way to
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avoid those situations and so I like I'm
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listening to the story i'm totally with
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you home all on board except for now or
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when you cross the line and he cute
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that's it's a trick me like you're
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talking to this guy I didn't do this in
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front of the guy
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mm you know cuz i would i text eric
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occasionally we share fighting so we're
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like you know this is something we would
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do anyway
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award ceremony and funny thing happened
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the guy's a massive fan of yours and it
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doesn't know me from Adam and I'm
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supposed to be you know the star of the
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night so then i say derek i told you at
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the guys name and said can you do me a
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favor and what a great guy Derek is that
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what great guy he is
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mhm he on the spot unlike a sidewalk in
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California and sent me a video of a
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personal message to this guy and I heels
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they did it so well he made it really
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like charming he said hey said the guys
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name here at the award ceremony and I
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hope you have a really great night and
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then I'm glad you got to meet brady and
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I'm glad you like protesting very classy
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like you know 22nd message so then i
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texted off to this guy and I my god did
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that make is not he was so excited I
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felt like about 1 foot tall but I still
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deliver the goods and made his not
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thanks to a good friend go from various
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tablet so it started all very braggy and
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by the end of it all I was pretty
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humbled that is humbled in the proper
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use of the term right feeling lower than
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you are
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as opposed to the way people seem to use
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it when they have achieved massive
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success and its really feel humbled when
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I did receive my word i could I didn't
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make space for anything that I could
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have said I'm truly humbled tonight and
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it would have been telling the truth I
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will warn you in advance Brady just in
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case you needed it but if you're ever in
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a situation where someone knows who I am
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but doesn't know who you
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our don't expect me to send a charming
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video message to the person so that you
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can impress them
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yeah do you think I'd ask i don't know i
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don't know how much pressure you'd be
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under to deliver the goods of making
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sure that this person knows that no
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person on the other hand if i have it
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was slight Destin Destin probably make
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them a 5-foot paper measured sculpture
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or something if it was destined he'd be
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landing in a helicopter in 20 minutes so
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gray bi weekly weigh-in
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hey dub wow this feels really out of the
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what makes you bring up the bi-weekly
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way and Brady you told me that if you
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love something you let it go and if it's
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truly yours it comes back to you
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I've come back to you wow yeah I feel
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like it has been a year i have no idea
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how long it takes for the long time I'm
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having another run at it just to be
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clear I'm really happy about this
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I just assumed I'd never be hearing
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these words ever again but it seems like
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right before Christmas might be the
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worst time in the world to start up a
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health kick
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so tell me what's going on what's going
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on I don't know just something happened
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something flicked in my mind I've
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suddenly I haven't sorted my food out
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okay that is a switch I'm yet to flick
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and we actually had to do your christmas
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stuff with family early because my wife
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and i are working over Christmas so
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we've done a lab starts a really bad
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eating the last week oh man what i have
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done is we joined a gym are quite like
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nearby and I've started very regular
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personal training sessions Oh
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interesting
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so you're working with a personal
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training i am at when possible which is
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not always possible
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best-case scenario three days awake wow
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that's fantastic how are you finding it
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I have done personal training before em
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when it comes to exercise its it's the
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way to go for me because I'm quite a
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proud person i'm not willing to like
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fail in front of someone even if it's
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just one person say if the personal
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trainer says all right I want you to do
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10 of them and then five of them i'm
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going to be hard as nails and say well
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alright i'm not going to let you see me
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not be able to it so basically he knows
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I'm unfit and he says let's start with
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this and see if you can do it
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time I do something he's like oh wow I'm
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surprised you did that lets up the ante
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he's not realizing that I'm dying inside
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but I right like I'm just like pushing
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myself to the limits of human endurance
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so that I would not be able to do
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something ask me to do he could probably
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say gonna lift up that car and I do it
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just out of sheer stubbornness great
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that seems like a good way to handle
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your personal health
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ok I've got to sort my food out because
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it's all for naught if I at the moment
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I'm just robbing Peter to pay Paul
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try and stick with it even stopping
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there would be a cause of great personal
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shame the only type the reason I left my
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left the city i moved away from
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thing that's going to cause this to stop
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is me moving house
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Lou like so i can no longer see him or
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the most likely scenario is him changing
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jobs are not being a personal trainer
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anymore but until then I can't really
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see what will stop making wow this is
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fantastic news
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just totally unprepared for this I
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didn't know this was going to happen do
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you want to restart like regular
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conversations around this like do you
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want to do the weigh-in with numbers
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again or what are you thinking what's
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going on with your mind here i'm not
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thinking that I'm just letting you know
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i'm back on the horse and you know how
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well it's going by how often I bring it
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up haha yeah okay see that's what I was
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kind of thinking okay so so you're not
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committing to any kind of structured
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schedule here
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well I don't see a point now because you
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got where you wanted to be and you've
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got the body beautiful when you're
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living the dream now and so there's no
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real comparison to be made I'm just
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flying skyliner I achieve the way that I
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wanted to which is under 200 pounds but
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i think to say that i have the body
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beautiful now
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not exactly an accurate description like
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I could definitely do a lot more and/or
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various reasons in particular over the
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last several weeks like I have been very
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off the wagon as far as it comes to
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health and then when Christmas is
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rolling around I feel like goodbye wagon
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I'll catch you in January right like I'm
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not even i'm not going to make any kind
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of pretending so I am by no means on any
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kind of health kick but i'll just put it
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out there like if you wanted to ever do
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anything more structural more formal
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like I've got plenty of progress to
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still make even though i achieved my
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first goal so that would be something
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I'd be very open to baby steps cry
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babies i'm not gonna pressure you that's
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right i'm gonna let this Bird go fly
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back out and maybe we'll check in
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another year and we'll find out how that
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personal training has been going
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yeah you know at least in my own very
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limited experience with personal
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training like I found it
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shockingly effective in many ways that I
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wouldn't have expected because of that
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same phenomenon that when you're with
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somebody else they can push you much
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harder than you would naturally push
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yourself because there is that pressure
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of like well I don't want to look like a
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so yeah I'm very happy breeding why you
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got any limited experience with personal
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training why don't you use a personal
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trainer all the time
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ok this is going to be a very gray
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answer probably but I did personal
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training for about six weeks before this
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summer when I was going to do a bunch of
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traveling i was doing it basically
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because i was getting to the point where
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myself with the weights that I was
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lifting and so I wanted to work with
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someone to make sure that i was doing it
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not in a dumb way
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I couldn't just be doing it on my own
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anymore at that point so I was kind of
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intending to work with someone just for
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a limited period of time to make sure
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that i was doing things right but more
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than that i found it absolutely mentally
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exhausting to have like a three days a
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week kind of hour-long meeting with
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another person early in the morning
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this does not work for me like my ideal
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morning is I get up and I don't talk to
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anyone until I've done all of my work
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and exercise and now it's like 12 or one
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in the afternoon
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that's my apps the ideal morning and so
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to have like a morning meeting with
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someone all the time I just found it
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really mentally draining and I was also
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aware that it and actually did have like
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an impact on my work being aware that
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like a line i have to be at the gym at
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this exact time
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yes I find that like this lie that
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people say which is that they're always
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like oh when you exercise it doesn't
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take that much time and add so much time
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to your life and like I have never found
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that to be the case like exercise does
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take a lot of time and I think it's
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better if you just mentally except that
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like this is going to take a big chunk
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out of your day
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yeah it's worth it yeah but it's just
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like accept the fact is going to take a
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big chunk out of your day yeah but I
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found that by having the regular meeting
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with the trainer it was impacting it
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even more like he was taking more of a
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chunk and then I just find it exhausting
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to try to talk to someone at ten-thirty
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in the morning and especially like
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constant small chitchat like I find that
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the most draining thing ever so I did it
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for a limited run i might do it again in
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the future for limited runs but i think
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i would probably rather kill myself then
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do indefinite ongoing personal training
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I couldn't possibly deal with that but
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it does bring me to the other thing i
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want to talk about about going to the
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mmm i'd start imagine you do this
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actually because even I find it socially
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awkward
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mmm the changing rooms do you go to gym
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changing rooms
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yeah where are you going with this
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what's awkward in the changing room just
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some people are more have more of an
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exhibitionist rate than others and I
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sometimes find I don't really know what
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to do with myself
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what you do is you keep eyes above waist
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level break
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right that's rule number one yeah can I
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zup right guys up if either up all the
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problems are solved I don't see what the
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issue is you're comfortable with that
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you're quite comfortable with all these
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new people around you and your nuding up
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yourself
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yes its relatives needing it up together
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in the chanting group I just thought
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you're the last person in the world that
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would be comfortable with that I mean
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I'm totally fine with the changing rooms
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because it's against it's like the the
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social rules in this environment we're
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all here at the gym together we're all
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using shared facilities
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this is just the way it is i don't see
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what there is to be uncomfortable about
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this is just like this is just a
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changing room we segregated by gender
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right for social politeness reasons and
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here we are we're in the changing room
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i'm actually surprised that you're not
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the guy who's chatting people up and in
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the change room I figured you'd be your
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normal chatty self and in the changing
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room but it feels like maybe not you're
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the guy looking down in Paris all the
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I'm surprised by this I would say im
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looking down embarrassed overtime huh
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are more just shocked that you're cool
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with it
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I don't know it just seems like these
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are the rules here now that what else
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are we gonna do we all have to use the
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showers
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we all have to change our clothes as
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long as you follow the rule
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eyes up ok i just shaved you would be
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someone who would like just go home
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sweaty and get changed at home or build
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some kind of tau tent like a portable
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tends the Affordable tends to bring with
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me like you don't even that people say
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your face
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this is a totally different context
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you're mixing contacts here buddy
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one is not applicable to the other
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enough I locker romantic enough locker
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room banter but i'm very happy for you
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periodic table for all time I thought we
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element of the period video so obviously
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we had for new videos to make now these
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tell me what you think of this because
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all four were approved and authorized or
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once they kind of did them as a batch
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through the process I decided for fun
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more than anything to release all 4
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videos at once simultaneously
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ok so you did four separate videos
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launched at the same time for separate
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videos and put them all out at exact
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same time so one o'clock yesterday or
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the day before bank press the button for
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new videos from period videos all at
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once treating each one individually like
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standalone so they can see on the
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website alone that stuff do you think
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that was a good idea do you think that
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was a terrible idea what do you think
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about that I presume that you're asking
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from the perspective of maximizing views
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is that what you're thinking that is one
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idea for maximizing views i was aware of
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that like that was a sacrifice who they
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were pros and cons to doing it and I'm
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wondering if you think it was a stupid
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thing to have done or it appeals to your
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brain or you think i was big silly if I
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would not have release them all at once
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I don't think it's terribly silly thing
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to do but it just seems like so much of
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our careers is dependent on the YouTube
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algorithm and what the YouTube algorithm
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people and I can't imagine that
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releasing for videos at once is the kind
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of thing that the people who are
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designing that algorithm would expect to
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channel to do and so with this factor
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incorrectly to how it
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would be handled so I don't know what
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your view numbers were like on those
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videos at all but my feeling is if I had
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multiple videos to release I wouldn't
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release them all simultaneously now
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every once in a while I have released
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multiple videos on a single day usually
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where i have a video and then there's
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like a little footnote that I want to
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include with the video that's not a main
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thing and if I do that I'll at very
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least try to put a lot of time between
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them so like one will go up in the
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morning and then one will go up later in
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the afternoon because I I just feel like
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at the same time I'm not sure that the
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algorithm would like that and we all
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have to serve the algorithm Brady that's
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my feeling on this I didn't feel that
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way about this I didn't feel well
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obviously I didn't feel I should be
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serving the average because because I
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dinner and I knew and you don't like it
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but there are lots of factors that came
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into it and everything you say there is
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true but i guess i felt and also i am a
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bit less behold and to view counts then
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you are because of the way my business
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were right the other that's very true
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that's very true yeah a few interesting
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things that I mean my biggest concern
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was alienating people
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hmm and people feeling club to like
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because I don't even know how people get
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their alerts anymore would they get four
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emails with their subscription box or
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list be full of my stuff and it would
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piss them off because they like our God
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for videos in a row from the same mob
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you know unsubscribe so that was a
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concern spreading them out though like
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over the course of awake also felt like
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a concern because the videos do have a
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certain sameness to them on these
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reasons
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mhm so it could be like are you did this
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last week are you did this the week
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before and it will always give people
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more time to unsubscribe like they go
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like at once they forgive it once but
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after four weeks in a row that be like
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okay now you just taking the piss
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I'm and subscribing prices they're
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getting a plan movie in response to your
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element uploads like I don't know your
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comes another or ripping off the bandaid
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human at least four videos out that have
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got similar elements to them because
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they're all super-heavy element
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synthesized in similar ways right let's
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get it all at once but I
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also just like the idea of it being like
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be of an event and bit of a surprise and
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unexpected let people go wow when I woke
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up this morning I never thought that
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before new videos from this one channel
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and my think for some people it was
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better for like an event to whom I was
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also related to see how the four would
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compare on their views like it was a
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nice test wasn't of four videos that are
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all very similar which one would people
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click on which element named appeal to
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them one of them did a lot worse than
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the others and I wonder if that was
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algorithmic like whether or not for
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videos is one too many and like one was
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below some fold or not on some email or
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something but I feel like my guess is
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you're releasing them all at the same
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time but youtube has some concept of the
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upload time versus the release time
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my guess would be like the first one and
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the last one would do better than the
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two in the middle
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I don't really have any reason for that
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but that's just kind of my god guess for
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what I would expect no in terms of when
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I actually uploaded them because
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obviously couldn't upload them all the
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same time the first 2i uploaded did the
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best he the thirds done the worst i
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knows who knows i haven't done the
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analysis well enough I'm sure there's
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something interesting in there somewhere
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who and subscribers did dip it did hurt
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subscribers at one point the professor
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and the videos contact me so I think
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subscribers have actually dropped in the
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scheme of things I think it was still up
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for the day net but it was it did but it
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caused a visible did when you released
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all of them people are like too much
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periodic videos thank you very much but
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in some ways I don't mind that because
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if you're subscribing to a channel that
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is made its name by making videos about
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all the elements soon and then releasing
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four-element videos in a day puts you
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are truly then you're probably not the
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best subscribers for us to have like
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Facebook having like too many followers
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that aren't true believers can dilute
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you and hurt you algorithmically then
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maybe sometimes it's good to get rid of
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the chest yeah i mean that this gets to
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you know the thing about we just have no
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real idea how YouTube is handling these
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things behind the scenes and talking
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about the subscriber numbers i mean that
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we've mentioned it here many times when
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YouTube red conversations come up with
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other things but I just personally don't
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really put a lot of stock in that
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subscribe
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number anymore like I'm not even really
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sure what it means now especially with
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this change that YouTube has made where
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there's a way essentially now where you
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have to double subscribe or like you can
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subscribe to the channel but then you're
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also supposed to press the little dell
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next to the subscribe button which says
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that you actually want to get
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notifications about when this channel
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puts out new videos
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it's an interesting thing that youtube
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is still kind of built around this idea
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of rewarding people for subscribers
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obviously like with all of the silver
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play button that you have littered
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around your house they built around this
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idea but algorithmically I think the
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evidence just keeps piling up that the
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subscriber things don't matter so great
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when you put out for videos this is the
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kind of data youtube don't give us but I
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would just love to know how did youtube
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handle telling your audience that these
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four videos exist
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it doesn't make any sense when you have
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these subscriber numbers and then you
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look at video view numbers and they're
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just all over the place
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yeah so without cheating or looking at
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your screen great shut your eyes your
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shot my eyes are shut
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I told you those four new element names
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how many of them do you remember how
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tense scene I'll goodness on the podium
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I failed i'm sorry i'm sorry i cannot
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get the last one it was Moscow via Wow
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let's go rio and it's not in the pyonium
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it's not honey and with an h was behind
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on and nihon can be worse for japan i
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think and I've gone not onium who I'm
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gonna count that I think that's close
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alright yeah you think I get that on
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Jeopardy definitely not as the podium I
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think they give that to me
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they definitely would not 100-percent
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speaking of YouTube stuff we discussed
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these new ad formats or at least new to
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us ad formats that were popping up which
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is the sponsored item ads i was looking
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at a video that was describing how to
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build a secret cabinet in your house and
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underneath the youtube video were a
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bunch of ugly ads about how to buy a
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secret cabinet on youtube instead it's
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like when you buy a new car and suddenly
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you look around the world
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and it seems like this car is absolutely
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everywhere I don't know if it's just
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like I just tuned into this thing and
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now i see it absolutely everywhere but i
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have now seen these ads on my own videos
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where YouTube is trying to guess a
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product that is related to my videos and
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have a huge amount of space underneath
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the video directly related to trying to
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sell people that physical item my
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favorite example of this is my video on
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the rules for rulers which is constantly
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trying to sell people rulers right
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actual rulers you would use to measure
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the length of objects if you go watch
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that video underneath it it's trying to
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sell you rulers for like ninety-nine
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cents fifty cents to buy a cheapo
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plastic ruler we've discussed before
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that YouTube has this it doesn't look
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like the prettiest websites but I've got
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to say like to load up my video and to
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see a bunch of junky plastic rulers for
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sale below the video directly while the
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video plays and it also has a little
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pop-up that occurs part of the way
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through the video on the top of the
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screen that says click here to open up
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the slide over to buy some rulers it's
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how awful like it's just an awful ugly
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ad format i was looking through the
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YouTube analytics data and again it's
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always a little bit unclear precisely
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what we can tell the audience but you
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can see how much the different types of
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ads will learn for your channel and
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those pre-roll videos right they pay the
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most other different kinds of ads pay
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the least and I can't even find where
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going through my videos and trying to
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make sure to disable this kind of AD
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across all of my videos because i think
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not worth it like it just crosses a real
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money i would rather just not have my
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distracted by the hideousness of them
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what are they Kodaka maybe some of my
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channels on and i put for them just
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looking at one of my channels i can't
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even see what the code to disable them
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so maybe I don't get them in the youtube
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back-end they're called sponsored card
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ok this is the ad type that exists but i
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think is really devious about this is
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the sponsored card description seems to
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be that is just going to be an ad on the
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side but as best I can tell that
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sponsored card means that a youtube
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video will have that little slide over
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come out from the top like you put in a
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card except the person can click it to
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buy a thing and also below the video it
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will display these big images to buy
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whatever on ebay thats related to the
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actual video itself that's certainly not
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clear from that night because I didn't
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even know that's what that was
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it's not clear from that name at all and
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here's the thing that I am wondering
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youtube is doing this move where they're
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clearly no longer interested in
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annotations so it used to be on YouTube
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that you could draw a little box on the
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screen and people could click on that
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box and it would take them to another
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video or another website and we've
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complained mightily before about how
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annotations are really difficult to
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actually draw correctly on the screen
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the interface for them is pretty
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terrible but the advantage that they
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have is that the annotation
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click-through is really high like in my
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videos if I put a little box on the
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screen and I say something like click
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here or even if I don't people know to
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click those boxes to go see another
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video or to go see another thing because
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you've got control over what's in the
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box that can be something visually
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interesting or relevant or right that's
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exactly right you can put an image on
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the screen or you can just say click on
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my face and draw a box around your face
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and YouTube has introduced these cards
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which when they first came out I know we
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discussed it but these cards which are
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just a little slide over that appears on
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the top while they work on desktop and
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mobile at least in my own experimenting
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they have horrific click-through rates
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like eight
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and the number of click-throughs as
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compared to an annotation that's a real
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shine to great because to be totally
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honest they're much nicer that classy
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they're quite elegant they work well
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like I actually visually like the more
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like white people to me but i just-i
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yeah the the annotations can look kind
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of junky partly because it's hard to
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draw them partly because the colors are
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really great
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the thing that I don't like about cards
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is how they're a little bit of an
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interruption in the video because their
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motion because they slide out i think
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they're a little bit visually
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distracting but i'll agree with you that
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overall the cards are a wind in the
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looks department right but i find myself
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even though youtube is increasingly
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trying to push us away from annotations
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and if you go to add an annotation now
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they kind of make you choose between
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annotations and other features like
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they're obviously they don't want you to
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use them but i find like I still want to
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use annotations because they're so
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incredibly effective and their doubly
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effective when you consider that half of
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the audience is usually watching on a
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mobile device where the annotations
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don't even work
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they don't even show up whereas card
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show up on both but thinking about these
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sponsored cards what I'm wondering is is
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if one of the reasons that the
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click-through rates on these cards are
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so low is because some percentage of
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them are just adds and so the people
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watching YouTube respond to them less
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because whatever it is maybe one out of
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20 or one out of 30 times when the thing
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pops up on the screen
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it's not a message from the creator of
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this video its why don't you buy a
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plastic ruler right now I'm just
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wondering if this is the reason why
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cards have such horrific click-through
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rates as compared to annotations because
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sometimes their ads people have been
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conditioned to treat them as noise and
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not a message from someone I trust
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yeah that is precisely what i'm
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wondering if this is like the conflicted
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message because as soon as I realized
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this I feel like boy I wasn't a big fan
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of cards in the beginning and unless of
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a fan of cards now that i know that the
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message can be mixed for the actual
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viewer I've just click through to
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YouTube's explanation
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enough what all the different types of
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ads are because we can't tell us from
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their name what we're saying is allowed
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or not allowed no videos who i scroll
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down to sponsored cards and from their
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description sponsored cards are what i
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would have thought they are they just
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little messages up the top with a little
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I symbol is quite tucked out of the way
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hm there's nothing in the official
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description of what sponsored cards are
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that says anything about big chunky ads
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displayed under your videos like on
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permanent display trashing up the screen
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so either that's being sneaky sneaky and
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they have included a who or it's not
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part of the sponsored card description
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and it's just something that we have no
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power over it just goes on whether you
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want to or not i agree with you right
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when I looked into this and I was trying
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to figure out why are these ugly ruler
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ads below my video they i might be wrong
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about this but this is the best that I
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could track it down and in doing a
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couple tests of flipping the switch just
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temporarily to see it looked like
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flipping the sponsored card thing was
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the one that would change the junkie ads
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at the bottom it does have this feeling
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of again that YouTube does these things
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and the messaging is just never clear
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like where are these ads exactly if
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you're looking at YouTube's official
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documents it doesn't seem like these are
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anywhere but they're clearly somewhere
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in the system
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youtube sure has a lot of different ad
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formats and it doesn't contribute to the
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overall niceness and nice-looking this
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of the platform puts a few dollars in
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your pocket I cgpgrey I mean maybe it's
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just suspicious to me because just like
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you say these ads don't seem to show up
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anywhere on the official documents about
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what kind of adds there are when I look
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through the analytics there is nothing
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in there that to me looks like here is
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the address minus that you got when
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somebody bought a ruler through your
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video and stuff like what are these
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things like what are these ugly things
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where is this money going what's
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occurring like it's not clear at all
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there's no clear message from YouTube
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about what these things are
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it's just a bad viewer experience and in
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the same way that like I always hate
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those little overlay ads that pop up on
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the bottom third
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I find them just so distracting from a
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video and that's part of the reason why
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i like I disable them on my videos and I
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think like these sponsored cards are
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like the same kind of thing again
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it diminishes the video that it's on in
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a way that i personally don't feel
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pre-roll ads or display ads on the side
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do those feel like they're apart from
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the video but this feels like it's just
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too much in the video itself can't
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disagree with you go and you're right if
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it turns out that the money from those
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junky ones underneath aren't going to
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the creator's then that's going to be an
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interesting little tale to tell later
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like it's going to be interesting to see
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how some people would react to that I've
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actually never seen one of my videos so
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i don't know much about them but maybe
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there's something dodgy going on
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yeah I personally suspect it's just that
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the revenue was so small that it's not
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really showing up on the analytics but
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who knows
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and again it's just that the message is
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always that it is unclear from the
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perspective of what is YouTube up to
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what is usually about two that could be
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on your gravestone perhaps you and I
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cgpgrey what was YouTube up to
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he never knew he never knew no matter
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how much you look at the end of it okay
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can I just say gray like people always
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ask us to watch different TV shows and
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movies and lose yet about them and we're
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always open to this and the one that a
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lot of people are asking about at the
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moment is the TV show
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westworld mm have you had a look at it
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by the way when no spoilers coming by
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the way people were not about to review
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or anything we just saw some graph he's
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watched westworld i have not watched it
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i have seen 10,000 requests for me to
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watch westworld i did as a child watch
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the original movie or TV series that
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it's based on a book based on a book i
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think that it was a movie okay i don't
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remember very much about it except the
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broadest over line but i know i saw the
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original as a child but no I have not
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actually watch westworld have you I have
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watched maybe the first four episodes
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who and I'm not going to review our
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spoiler except to say I've stopped with
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better if it is set as homework for
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whatever reason
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I guess I would do it because you know
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we do that for the tims but I certainly
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couldn't in good faith ask you to watch
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hmm interesting you may love it but some
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people certainly had a loving the hell
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out of it and everyone thinks you love
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it and things i will ever
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that's certainly for whatever reason was
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not the case so far maybe it gets better
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maybe I was in a bad mood maybe you just
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don't like it very much
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hmm but i stopped so i'm not inclined to
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do it at the moon so I'll maybe I'll
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leave that bowl in your core sort of
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floating there for discussion another
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day but we are saying all the west-world
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request kind of maybe stopped because
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i'm getting lots of emails about that
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it's not like we haven't seen it so you
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don't have to like tell us because we
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don't know about the show if I hadn't
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left the show but so if you're about to
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send me an e-mail recommending it like
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you're still welcome to do that but you
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don't need to do right i am aware of the
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yeah I feel like the volume of feedback
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say the words I want people to
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understand i'm aware that the thing that
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I'm about to say is an overblown
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metaphor but i think the synthetic meat
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reminds me of slavery so i think this is
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one of these things where if you go back
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and you look at the historical records
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people at the time like in the seventeen
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hundreds like letters from the founding
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fathers people knew that slavery was a
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bad thing but it took a long time before
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we actually got rid of it and my
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personal theory on this is that a lot of
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the reasons why various countries got
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rid of slavery at the various times that
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they did has much more to do with like
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the economics of the time and the
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available technology at the time then it
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does to do with the idea that people
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suddenly woke up and realized no slavery
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what a terrible idea like this is an
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awful thing to do to our fellow human
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beings i got i think there's a kind of
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technological economic change that
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encourages those sorts of things to
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happen at one time or another yet and I
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think we're going to go through the
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exact same thing with synthetic meat in
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the next maybe 10 years or so that i
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don't think there's anybody who really
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argues for the way we currently produce
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meat as like a great humane amazing
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to do but i think we consume so much
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meat because of the economics of it and
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because of how much people like the
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taste of it but I think like as soon as
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these lines cross and it makes economic
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sense to be using synthetic meat we're
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going to have like a like a sort of
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similar thing to slavery where it's
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going to be very easy for people on the
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other side of this to be saying like
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well obviously factory farming was such
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a horrific Lee inhumane thing to do but
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we're only going to be able to do that
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once the economics also makes sense so
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stop fretting the cows once we can
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afford to free the cows exactly right
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it's like we know it's bad now just like
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people always knew slavery wasn't a
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great idea but I think when people are
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thinking about enacting change and when
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and when people think like oh we need to
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change the way factory farming is done
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so that it's more humane I come down on
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the other side of this is like if you
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really want to effect change in this way
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you should encourage research into
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synthetic meat right and you should try
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to get everyone you know on board with
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eating synthetic meat like that's the
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way you're actually going to change this
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kind of thing you're never going to
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change the factory farm you can only
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change the economics around the factory
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farm to make it unprofitable compared to
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the alternatives i don't think it's an
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overblown metaphor i can think of
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someone that lives in my house that was
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agree with you but I don't know whether
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my wife would agree that with your
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synthetic mate argument I've never
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discussed it with her whether that's
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them that's the cave but certainly I
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lots of vegetarians who be quite
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comfortable with the way we treat
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animals being described as slavery
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hmm that's quite inflammatory thing to
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say but I don't think that means it's
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wrong you know maybe inflammatory is
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better but this is one of these things
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where I'm just kind of curious to see if
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it plays out the way that I think it
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will play out that it will suddenly be
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like Oh factory farming which we've
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always known is bad becomes suddenly
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intolerable right like we as a society
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suddenly decide that it's absolutely
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intolerable and it's like we don't
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really talk directly about how it's
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related to the fact that synthetic meat
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is cheaper in the same way that at least
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in the limited way that I've
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looked into it particularly within the
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united states like a lot of things
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around slavery seem to be related to the
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farming technology at the time like in
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what required a lot of manpower versus
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what didn't and it's like oh it's funny
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how as the value of manpower goes down
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like the calls for getting rid of
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slavery go up and also become more
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effective
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I just wonder if that's going to be the
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same kind of case with the synthetic
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meat i don't know i find it interesting
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that when you're making the argument
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it's almost like a bit of an animal
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rights argument which is a nice thing to
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be baking that you're stopping short
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that your you keep saying factory
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farming like you're almost saying it
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would still be okay to eat a shape for
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support up in Nice circumstances it's
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just a factory should Nate it's almost
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like if you're gonna be a bear be a
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grizzly great if you're going to say
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that animals have these rides why are
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you stopping at factory farming why you
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saying maybe we should be eating animals
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at all and we're just doing it out of
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economic expediency
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well I guess I'm saying factory farming
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here because the horrible thing is like
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the life condition and the death of the
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I'm just thinking out loud here but I
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could imagine a scenario where if let's
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say like the farm that exists on my
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package of eggs which is it like a
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perfect farm and some hills or some
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chickens running around and they're
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being totally happy chickens they give
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that if that farm actually exists and
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the chickens are living a happy life
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right up until the very end and they
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never see the very end coming
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I don't necessarily think there's
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anything bad with that this like a
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chicken lives a happy life and never
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suffers and we also eat the chicken
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I'm not sure I can really get behind the
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idea of that being terribly morally
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I don't know I feel like I haven't
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really sat down and thought that through
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to its its full extent but I feel like
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I'm pretty okay with the idea of eating
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an animal that has lived a happy life
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I think I'm okay with eating happy
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chickens before we go
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I think that maybe a coke coming through
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i'm not great I don't want to hear it I
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swear to god I'm clenching up already
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I don't I i just got failing now I've
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been good tho Brady I've been good the
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whole teeth
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let's find out that's answer this cold
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god it's so horrible
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huh oh hello its center here
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Who am I speaking to cgpgrey everywhere
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with the slowest hoping you would answer
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if i remember correctly you're five
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years old
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is that right it's am super listen I've
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decided to personally corn and because
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I've heard that you been a bit of a
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naughty boy that's not true that means
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I've had to put your name on my naughty
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the elves and I are not impressed
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you must not true self and show that you
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could the good child that I know you are
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my elves have to me that you can be very
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well behaved
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did you tell me what to do said that can
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you promise me that you'll be good from
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now on I'm rebelling against this system
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no he don't know i don't like this at
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all no but it was jolly nice talking to
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you but I have to go now you know I'm
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very busy preparing for Christmas I'm
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going to take my new slave richest drive
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remember it's very important to behave
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well all year round
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I hope how talk to you again soon
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merry Chris pass and now he's been on
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ice is put you on the naughty list
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imagine that getting a cold from Santa
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big toads directly you're on the naughty
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that's it you might as well just give up
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it's just a total black mirror nightmare
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it really is it
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