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00:00:00 ◼   ► I'm reluctantly telling you about a [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► little trial I'm doing at the moment [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► because I don't want to like hurt your [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► feelings or stir you up huh [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► but I just thought you'd find [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► interesting and i also want to find out [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► how you do with these things as well [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► hurt my feelings again immediately [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► concerns raised to maximum if I could [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► free to be talking about we are seven [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► seconds into the podcast and I I'm sorry [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► because now please bear in mind i say [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► this with love in my heart all right [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► ok but like sometimes you are not the [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► easiest person to be friends with [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► oh okay all right and again I say this [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► with love him I how I think you're like [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► a really nice guy and you're very [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► generous and consider a whole but you [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► know that certain types of interactions [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► and certain things about your [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► personality confuse other humans and [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► cause problems and tensions and things [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► like that right but you know that don't [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► I know some of my interactions confusing [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► Brady that's true yes [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► Yeah right there anyway so sometimes and [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► because of a lot of our interaction is [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► like online like through gmail or [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► particularly three messaging and that [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► blue [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► I mean we joke that sometimes can [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► compound the problem because they can be [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► miscommunications because of lack of [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► body language and nuanced and just [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► having the text there sometimes gets us [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► both very confused haha that's okay i [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► live with it you know and I'm sure you [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► live with it too but I'm trying an [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► experiment okay because i think i've [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► been compounding the problem [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► unnecessarily [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► oh yeah and what I am experimenting with [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► is trying a new icon to represent you on [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► my operating system because it will be [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► no surprise to anyone that I use the [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► cgpgrey I got that you you know he's [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► everywhere it seems obvious that's why [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► would you so everytime message from you [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► comes up that pops the little black [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► circle with a cog honor and the Little [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► flask and to me like that's you [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► the problem with that is and this has [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► always been the way with your [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► representation online [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► not only is anonymous it's kind of a [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► little bit unfriendly [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► because you know its mechanical and [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► scientific and it's very dark and very [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► non-human is this unfriendly I'm not [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► sure I agree with you on that [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► ok I won't call unfriendly but I didn't [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► look all that friendly I think it's very [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► cool and it works really well for your [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► YouTube channel when your twitter and [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► all those things you know I think it's a [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► masterstroke on your behalf but having [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► that come up and look me in the face and [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► have been frustrated by you in some [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► communication [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► mmm i think compounds the problem ok so [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► what I have done in the last week move [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► is I've actually got I've chosen a photo [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► of you when you got a big smile on your [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► face and you look kind of goofy and [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► we're messing around from some photo we [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► took ages ago with a bright color and [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► background and I've made that my icon on [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► my phone for you so every time i get a [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► message from you [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► I've got a big goofy cgpgrey smiling at [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► me out of my phone and I think it just [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► diffuses the tone of whatever's going on [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► all the time I think it's been a [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► masterstroke on my behalf that you think [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► this has been effective [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► yeah i do and i think we should think [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► carefully about the photos and icons [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► were used to represent people living on [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► their phones as we get more and more [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► down this path of interacting with [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► people in this way I think it can make a [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► big difference [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► it obviously has in this case what do [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► you have for me when that message for me [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► comes up I have the picture of you the [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► one looks like it's professionally done [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► from ages ago where you're holding a [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► tiny puppy Audrey that's the one that I [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► have of you you know that was just taken [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► by my wife with an iphone in a kitchen [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► well it's very professional-looking that [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► it's very well done that is the photo [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► that i have a view that is also the [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► photo of you that for some reason keeps [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► replicating itself over and over in my [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► iPhoto library it's like I can't even [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► tweet how many times that happens but [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► it's like that have complained about [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► this on Twitter virus i know i'll get a [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► complaint about it again but for some [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► reason when i open my iPhoto library i'm [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► going to say at least once a month [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► there are hundreds of copies of two [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► images one of which is this photograph [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► of you Brady holding Audrey and the [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► other is a Hitler mean from my reddit [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► video from like three years which is a [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► stupid picture of him [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► ler wearing high socks and looking like [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► an idiot in shorts right it's like I [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► have this Brady Hitler meme thing that [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► just replicates over and over and I am [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► convinced it's getting worse over time [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► that when i opened up my iPhoto library [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► it's like five more every time because [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► now it's like screens and screens that I [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► have to scroll through to get rid of [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► these hundreds and hundreds of photos so [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► how just realizing is I'm saying this [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► out loud while i do think it's a [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► fantastic photograph of you and i have [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► been using it as my contact photo of you [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► for a long time [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► I'm realizing maybe I to also have some [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► negative associations with that [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► particular image and the quite literally [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► thousands of times i have deleted it and [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► it still will not go away so maybe I [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► should select a different photograph of [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► you as well that's going to be some [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► metaphor fair professional relationship [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► yep i don't know what it is but it's got [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► to be something there [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► it's in there somewhere anyway do you [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► have like icons for everyone in your [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► phone like everyone here messages you [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► are most people icon muscle photos so do [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► you attach a person to pretty much [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► everyone who contact you [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► yeah i'll attach a picture i mean the [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► main reason that you need the picture is [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► that you don't accidentally send a [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► message to the wrong person right like [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► what I messaging with your wife and [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► we're talking about you behind your back [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► right slagging you off yeah I don't want [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► to accidentally send a message to you so [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► I have to make sure like there's a clear [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► visual representation of who you're [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► talking to so that's why it like it's [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► everybody has to have a photograph it [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► would be incredibly stressful if they [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► were just the defaults person outline [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► icons that would be no good at all no [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► good it's like initial sometimes the [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► initials of the person isn't so I'd be [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► like eh that's right yeah but that's no [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► good you have to have a photograph do [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► you stuck with it very often that we [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► change the photo of your life like you [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► know once a month or something if you [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► had the same one forever [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► ok so my wife has been getting on my [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► case about this [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► yeah but I use a photograph of her that [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► is at this point eight years old she [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► keeps wanting me to update to a more [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► modern one and even just recently like [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► hopefully sent me a few well posed [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► photographs like you know these could be [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► my contacts what [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► but I feel like I know but that's not [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► you that's the the contact photo that [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► i've been using of you for forever [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► yeah it's just like now this is the [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► digital representation of my wife and [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► yeah even though she doesn't necessarily [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► think it i still think she looks exactly [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► the same i can tell the difference i see [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► no reason to change it changing those [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► pictures is a big deal i have some [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► sympathy with you there I don't change [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► those things easily [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► it's like once it's locked in it becomes [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► like this is not supposed to be a [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► current photo of the person like this is [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► just the shorthand representation of the [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► person but that's why I've had to change [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► yours though I've had to change yours [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► because i'm doing psychological testing [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► on myself I'm saying whether using [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► something a bit more personal and [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► friendly will help defuse the [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► frustration you sometimes inside me i [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► think it's a good idea and also maybe [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► you two should send me some [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► recommendations you might have what i [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► should use for your contact photo i [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► think i think maybe I do have to change [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► my contact photo for you in the system [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► as well because of the deletion [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► associations are gonna shoot this [TS]

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00:07:51 ◼   ► and practical if you haven't heard them [TS]

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00:07:56 ◼   ► friends [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► Jeff and Andy who were fed up with being [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► overcharged for razors so they started [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► their own razor company to give people [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► what they deserve a great shave at a [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► fair price and this holiday Harry's is [TS]

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00:08:21 ◼   ► cartridges that provide a close [TS]

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00:08:29 ◼   ► dot-com and it comes in a beautifully [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► designed gift box all of Harry's [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► products really do make fantastic gifts [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► they are just really well-designed they [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► feel nice and they work great and [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► shaving is such a problem for so many [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► guys they're just used to using cheap [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► razor blades and never really think [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► about a very [TS]

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00:08:53 ◼   ► this Christmas [TS]

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00:09:32 ◼   ► thanks so much to harry's for supporting [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► the show so there are many things in [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► life that causing irritation that my own [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► fault [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► who for example the day that I stupidly [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► on hello Internet jokingly told people [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► if they were not on a plane to send me a [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► tweet you deserve every one of those [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► tweets i will regret that forever [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► I hope so i really do at it was my fault [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► and as people go through this into the [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► back catalogue and send me those tweets [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► not realizing I was sort of joking [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► around a bit [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► I got that on the chin and most things i [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► think my fault because generally I make [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► a lot of mistakes [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► mhm but one thing that was not my fault [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► was the belief that continues to blossom [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► and I continue to complain about that [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► people think we invented the term humble [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► brag on hello Internet [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► ok let's do something yeah i just had [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► this happen with my own parents [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► yesterday didn't like it and it's this [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► will never go away and it was not her [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► fault [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► we never jokingly claimed to make it up [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► we've talked about it a bit but we've [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► never said it was our thing ever know [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► what people believe that and now the [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► worst possible thing that could happen [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► seems to have happened and there is some [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► new game i think it's some new pokémon [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► game or something that everyone is [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► playing who has a seen it like a [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► cutscene that that uses the term [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► humblebrag little [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► and everyone who's playing this game is [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► saying this thinking at some cool for [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► hello internet that our word has been no [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► use in this game and is sending me [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► screenshots of the game i cannot tell [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► you how many screenshots well I have [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► gotten this game with this term humble [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► bear comes up on the screen and people [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► say this amazing Brady you're amazing [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► and it was your fault too because you [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► are the person who first mentioned the [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► word on the podcast was it means that I [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► bring it up i can't remember [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► here I was grappling with the concept [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► and you said is a humble break soon as [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► you would say the word before when it [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► was caught in right and I'm like yeah [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► that's what it is and we talked about it [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► from there [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► gosh that thing horse me and it's not my [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► fault the other stuff i can cop because [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► it is my fault [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► right right yeah I feel like we were [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► more serious back then like modern [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► current as might make some joke about [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► owning the word but now we even did like [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► a whole thing we talked about the person [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► who invented the term like you think it [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► couldn't have been more clear that like [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► we were just discussing a word he didn't [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► create this word but yeah that mean is [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► totally out there and seems impossible [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► to kill even with my own family [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► I've corrected the galaxy has ever [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► happened like it just keeps coming on [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► back at ya that's happened in my Western [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► it to thank God people don't think we [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► invented the word flag or brady was just [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► watching the olympics now flying a whole [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► bunch of flags must be so proud [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► it'll never die Brady and I i might as [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► well claim i invented at least give it [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► credit out of it [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► there you go here to here folks Brady [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► Haran inventor of the humble brag now [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► you can't do that because the guy who [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► invented I think passed away it was a [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► really tragic story well then he's not [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► here to contradict your claim she's just [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► gonna be even more rock solid body now [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► it was not great invented it totally [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► Brady Brady he's the guy he's so good [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► with all those words remember people [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► rate is really good with all the words [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► me I'm rubbish i couldn't find anything [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► even if i tried a few jacking okay Brady [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► I've come across the thing which I don't [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► really understand what it is but i'm [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► going to show you and this is something [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► somebody put on the reddit which is on [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► the Wikipedia [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► the page for Brady as in the word friday [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► no not may just bring in general write [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► the word Brady what can the word Brady [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► referred to lady Brady's actual Brady's [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► places called Brady's all of this stuff [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► on there is an image for the Brady [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► coat-of-arms yes could you describe to [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► me what the Brady coat of arms is on the [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► wicked people aged since saying this [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► unread I've investigated further and [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► found all sorts of variations of this [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► and i are all quite similar and it is [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► kind of a black shield blue and in the [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► top left corner is the Sun and men in [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► the bottom right corner is just a hand [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► pointing at the Sun just a finger is [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► pointing at the Sun there's the Sun now [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► when i first saw this I assumed that [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► someone was having a little fun at the [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► wikipedias expense because I do know [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► that our audience on occasion [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► only when it's appropriate sometimes [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► screws around with Wikipedia and changes [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► things to make them funny and so I [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► thought like I surely somebody has gone [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► in and added in this Brady coat of arms [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► which is the hand pointing at a thing [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► which couldn't be more you because I do [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► this in photos over time [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► yeah you did this in the very last [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► episode but sure enough when I went to [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► click on the link like it's from 2007 [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► like it predates the podcast by a lot [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► it's just like I was totally confused by [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► the decent searching you find all sorts [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► of like ancient coats of arms for brady [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► and it's all variations of this finger [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► pointing at the sunset so you done much [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► more deep research into this you found [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► this going below if a quick google [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► images search cancers deep research then [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► yes I think that totally counts yes it [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► does i think if you just Google Image [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► Brady coat of arms you've got a whole [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► bunch of other ones i find this just an [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► amazing miraculous coincidence that [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► makes me smile [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► it is a nice coincidence and i like that [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► the thing that's been point today is [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► like an astronomical object to and [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► reflecting my kind of space geekiness [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► know so yeah it could only have been [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► better if it was the moon it could only [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► have been better if it was the moon but [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► it still strikes me as just a remarkable [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► coincidence i just can't believe that [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► this was actually a thing that [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► pre-existed the podcast and it was not [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► internet shenanigan [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► it's absolutely amazing what's the gray [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► coat of arms I'm sure just in [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► coincidences sake it'll turn out to be [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► like a bunch of gears right that's what [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► it'll be quick projekt revolution update [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► you know it's been a bit of a palava but [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► it looks like as we record we're [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► recording on a sunday night it looks [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► like the album's will actually hit the [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► post tomorrow [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► oh wow but don't like we're gonna hold [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► me to that before that haha yeah they've [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► been more problems than I would have [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► expected put it this way you could make [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► an entire podcast of corporate [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► compensation corner based on some of the [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► problems I've been having getting these [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► things sorted out [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► you better be careful making an [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► offhanded comment like that people will [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► start asking for corporate compensation [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► corner as it relates to projekt [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► revolution you can't mix the corners [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► they would always that now that another [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► word that would be confusing they get [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► all round and squishy if you mix too [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► many of them together is that what [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► happens yeah they do you think you have [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► too many corners things start rounding [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► off of this so he so I don't think we'll [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► do that but speaking of corners [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► you up for a paper cutter to you let's [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► just give you one paper cut I know you [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► don't like multiple paper cuts [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► I've always got a lot on my list but [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► sure Brady why'd you give me a paper cut [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► my paper cap as many of my paper gets [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► these days tend to relate to BBC Twitter [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► streams [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► mhm I don't like kicking the BBC you [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► know I used to work for them I think [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► it's a good organization maybe it's just [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► a reflection of the fact that I follow a [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► lot of BBC on Twitter and so they have [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► more opportunities to irritate me [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► ok a bigger tag i noticed three-word [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► tweet it was back on shift this week by [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► the way [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► oh no and there but let's not go there [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► but the thing that they do and i'll use [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► the example that most irritated me is [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► they were tweeting something about [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► Barrack Obama somethin he done who are [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► current water was let me just make [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► something up [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► Barrack Obama has met with the French [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► president who and what they said was [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► meeting in paris between french [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► president and @potus whom they didn't [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► call him by his name also where he was [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► and they just used his Twitter handle [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► hey I find the in formality a little bit [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► grating from the news organization but [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► worse i find a little bit ingratiating [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► when they do that like that almost [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► hoping for like a retweet or and because [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► it's not like it's someone who like [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► you're not gonna know or like you're not [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► gonna go oh I didn't know I could follow [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► the President of the United States on [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► Twitter thank you for providing that [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► useful service babysitting [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► it's just a little bit like chummy and a [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► bit makes me feel squeamish saying the [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► BBC referring to @potus look at this [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► photo of that POTUS walking on the [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► street because it's almost like a call [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► that to him like because you when you [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► add someone the main reason you would [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► add someone is so that they will see [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► what you just tweeted so it's always [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► like we want the President to see that [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► we just tweeted about him like this is [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► the BBC in the President of the United [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► States it's not me and justin bieber man [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► i like the idea of someone at the BBC is [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► going on to their tweets and replied to [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► have and then flipping over to the [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► verified tab and hitting refresh refresh [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► refresh athletic DC didn't give us a [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► like yeah I think it's silliness don't [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► do that baby see they should very rarely [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► be using the apps of people I don't even [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► like it when the BBC sports site does [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► it'll go you know our fabulous gold [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► today by at wayne rooney like don't do [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► see I'm gonna totally disagree with you [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► Brady I think they should do that I [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► think that that's exactly what they [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► should be doing what I'm wondering is [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► did the French president's not have a [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► twitter account like is that why they [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► said the French president and POTUS I [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► was just making that up [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► french but yeah I don't even know what [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► it was about so it was like that French [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► Prezi and notice but also sometimes the [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► twitter handle doesn't always reflect [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► who the person is like I guess most [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► people know that [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► POTUS means President of the United [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► States but everyone would know that and [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► so sometimes with sport it'll be you [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► know fabulous go today by at Johnny 371 [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► and because that's what some sports [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► person has their twitter handle it then [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► you don't even know who the person is [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► who scored the go and also you say they [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► should do it [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► I mean why should they do it to help [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► sort of the interconnectivity of Twitter [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► and build the platform that's not what [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► the baby should be [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► I think that this is like the grammar of [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► twitter right the BBC being on Twitter [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► in the first place means well you should [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► be using the system like the way it is [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► to me it's like for the longest time and [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► even still it always bothers me how [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► newspapers seem incredibly reluctant to [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► actually link to with thing right [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► whenever they talk about it in their [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► news articles like if I ever find a news [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► article about a thing and it says like [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► other talk about that here's this [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► amazing thing that someone is making and [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► they mentioned the website but they [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► don't link to it was like god damn it [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► like you know you're on the internet [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► right guys like you yeah you think to a [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► thing and I always find that super [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► frustrating i agree with that gray and i [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► agree on twitter also there's like an [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► etiquette and if I mentioning you i will [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► use your at rather than just a great [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► like I agree with delicate but I feel [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► like there is a line somewhere of kind [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► of formality and people who should be a [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► little bit above her and I think once [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► you've got the british broadcasting [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► corporation and the President of the [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► United States I hold them to a slightly [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► different standard there are times they [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► should use at some things like that and [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► i can even handle you know emojis and [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► things like that but this just feels [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► wrong it just felt juvenile calling him [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► at POTUS yeah it just felt a bit wrong [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► to me but i'll defer to your judgment if [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► it will fit thank you but I'd everyone [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► just thinking like somewhere almost [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► certainly there has to be like a style [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► guide that exists for the BBC twitter [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► account are man i'd love to get my hands [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► on that [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► yeah I'd ripped that bad boy up and [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► rewrite and world no.3 word weeds [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► everywhere to it's no use of the flames [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► have someone is on fire but I'm just [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► thinking like a style guide must exist [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► somewhere right like this has to be a [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► thing and I think the problem will run [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► into with the style guide is trying to [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► define an arbitrary line of seriousness [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► over which you're not going to use the [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► Twitter handles and I think it's [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► especially weird in a place like Twitter [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► because you can easily end up with [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► enough the BBC has a rule like Oh heads [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► of state will always use their names and [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► you won't use their twitter handles but [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► that also just runs into the weird [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► popularity thing on Twitter that like [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► tons of heads of state who have [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► different numbers of Twitter followers [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► right versus like actual celebrities [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► were like million [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► and Brazilians of Twitter followers and [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► she's like I don't think there's any [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► consistent way to come down on a ruling [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► of when you should use the name versus a [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► twitter handle [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► I think if you're on twitter you should [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► just use the Twitter handle like I think [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► that's the medium that's the way that [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► this works well I'll say two things to [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► that one is I actually feel like they're [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► probably is not a very well adhered to [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► style guide for the BBC and twitter [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► because I find them very inconsistent [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► moving on this and i know baby see you [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► know I used to live by a baby style [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► guide so I know that about PB star gods [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► he and Twitter gives me the impression [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► it's the Wild West and they haven't got [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► their act together [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► who and secondly I don't know where that [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► line is and you make a fair point you [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► know where would you draw that line but [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► that life does exist because if for [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► example the Pope died tomorrow heaven [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► forbid i can't see the BBC saying oh my [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► goodness [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► @pontifex has died like they wouldn't do [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► that because that would feel really [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► really inappropriate and that shows that [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► there is a lion and therefore there can [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► be a discussion about where that line is [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► and that's me feels like there's [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► something in there which is like the [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► office versus the person I don't know I [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► feel like I have to think about that but [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► you're right i like it would be weird if [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► that like at pope awesome dead now that [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► would not seem like an appropriate way [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► to do that [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► yeah I feel like you've introduced a [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► little crack here but I still feel like [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► I'm ok with kids with the twitter [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► handles think I'm not okay without just [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► looking I can't believe this so i have [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► the current president's twitter profile [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► open up on my page so i was like i just [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► went to the POTUS thing [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► yeah and the president is using the [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► thing that I can't stand which is like [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► the three now and description of [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► yourself which almost always starts with [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► the thing that other people will care [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► the least about and then ends with the [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► thing that everybody cares the most [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► about what is a to the president's for [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► your description right now it says dad [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► husband 44th President of the United [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► it's okay thank you ate that like great [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► you know that has a total humblebrag it [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► drives me nuts when like some famous [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► important person is like father right [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► they put it is their first thing like [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► out come on dude like nobody's going to [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► your twitter profile because you're a [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► father right like that [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► going to you for the thing that you're [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► known for and it's extra funny to me [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► that it's fallen into this pattern of so [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► many people's Twitter bios have like [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► three nouns as the description and it's [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► like and sodas @potus what would yours [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► be great what would your three baby like [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► in that humble brag zone right it [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► wouldn't be like you know human male [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► youtube soup stir [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► yeah that's what i would do this is why [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► I don't have a twitter description it's [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► a fundamentally impossible to write a [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► good one so i just did not know so I'm [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► gonna have to read in mind before this [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► podcast is that so yeah now look let's [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► see what is within was very have doggie [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► owner filmmakers something-something [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► yeah that's yeah don't go in her husband [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► how about today co-host yeah that's [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► right i don't know what mine says yeah [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► you actually have an easy one [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► you have a decent one because it [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► actually gets to the heart of what you [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► are and why someone would be looking at [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► your twitter profile yeah so as of right [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► now it says video journalist and YouTube [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► person and then you have that number [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► file at periodic videos at hello [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► Internet nice to see and other stuff and [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► location the mighty black stump I think [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► that's good i think i think that's a [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► perfectly good profile because it [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► clarifies who you are and there's like a [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► little bit of a joke for people who [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► would like that [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► yeah but i swear to god i would throw up [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► in my office right now it actually [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► started with like doggy owner husband's [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► youtube person that would be the worst [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► you don't do that i went to that so [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► great it's been probably two new stories [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► this week that have caught my eye and I [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► wanted to discuss with you because both [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► of them made me think of you for various [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► reasons i don't particularly want to [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► talk about the new story but there was a [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► big news story in the UK with the last [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► week or two and it dealt with a 14 year [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► old girl who was dying I think she was [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► dying for something i can so it was [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► really was a terrible story but she [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► wanted to be cryogenically frozen after [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► she died and you know hoping that one [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► day their cue would be found and she [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► would be brought back to life and there [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► was a whole bit of controversy about it [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► to do with her parents [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► we don't need to go into that who but [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► what I did want to go into which is the [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► whole issue of because it did it got [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► people talking about cryonics again and [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► I read [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► lots of articles and things around the [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► place about what they do and how it [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► works soon how people can be frozen and [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► it did get me thinking that if someone [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► said to me Brady there was one person [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► who you're friends with who actually has [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► paid for and it's going to be [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► cryogenically frozen up that person dies [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► which one of your friends do you think [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► it is without doubt my answer would be [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► cgpgrey really really there's nobody [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► else even think of on top of that list [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► though no because I don't know where you [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► stand on this and I deliberately haven't [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► asked you about where you stand on this [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► but I can imagine you are either really [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► opposed to it and think it's ridiculous [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► or then I slightly lean this way I think [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► it tickles you and I think it's possible [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► that something you have not ruled out [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► doing so where do you stand on the on [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► the issue [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► chronixx in general tell me your story [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► gray well you're wrong in that I haven't [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► signed up for [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► cryonics yet if you're looking for a [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► friend who's signed up and written a [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► check i am not on that list [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► however if you're assembling a list of [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► people who have seriously looked into it [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► and found inadequate cryogenic solutions [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► in the UK and the US were unable to pay [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► for it then i would also be on that list [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► wow so you have that serious about it [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► yeah I looked into this little while ago [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► I feel good I guess it's not the most [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► amazing prediction the world was [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► considering your interest but yeah I [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► think it's a fantastically accurate [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► particular right score one of the [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► braided yeah you definitely win the say [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► what you feel like you know you've got a [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► few brochures and look at a few websites [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► and priced up have you and didn't find [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► the deal you're looking for yet [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► well no it wasn't that I didn't find the [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► deal that I was looking for it's just [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► that I'm going to say this was like [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► probably at least three years ago now so [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► I haven't really researched it in a [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► little while yeah but at least at the [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► time when i came across was that it [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► seemed like America was way harder core [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► into the cryogenics industry yeah [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► probably because it has a larger number [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► of slightly nutty super wealthy people [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► who are happy to fund it is my gas yeah [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► i'm gonna bet cryogenic sales are [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► fantastic in a place like Silicon Valley [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► i'm basing that on nothing [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► except again yeah and so maybe that's [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► why that industry exists more there but [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► it seemed like they were a serious [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► number of services that you could really [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► sign up for at least the time when I [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► looked into it in the UK there was [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► nothing that seemed adequate or [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► trustworthy for what I was really [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► looking for in a cryogenic sir but [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► before we go into that I mean you are [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► right America and Russia are the only [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► place that have facilities that are [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► doing at the moment interesting about [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► 1,600 people signed on to do in the [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► future i think only a couple hundred or [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► a few hundred people have actually a [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► frozen at the moment you say you [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► couldn't find what you're looking for [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► what are you looking for [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► well again trying to dig a big memories [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► of what it was at the time [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► part of it was these things were [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► shockingly costly some of them were just [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► like I cannot possibly afford this [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► really because the one thing that struck [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► me was that it was cheaper than I [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► expected [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► hmm ok still expensive like you don't [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► know something everyone can do but I was [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► surprised that was a bit cheaper than I [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► thought maybe prices have come down in [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► the past couple years right it's like [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► genetic testing maybe the price keeps [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► having every 18 months as time goes [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► along eventually everybody will get it [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► done [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► yeah but whatever it was it was too [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► expensive at the time but more than that [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► it was a question of time to freeze like [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► how fast can they theoretically get you [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► froze so yeah because I feel like surely [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► if this has any chance of working that [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► is the key factor in how mushy do you [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► get before they stick you in the freezer [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► that has to be the thing and so in [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► America there were a bunch of services [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► that basically like their whole selling [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► point was we can get you frozen really [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► fast after your declared dead yeah and [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► it seemed like that was not the case in [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► the UK right in the UK was like oh yeah [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► once you die will stick you in a box on [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► a free shipping across the ocean to get [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► you to America then we'll freeze you [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► like once the rats finished [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► that's what it seems like so yeah didn't [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► seem like a high probability of success [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► without yeah I'm a little dismissive [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► over and skeptical about it and so this [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► afternoon i was reading a bit about and [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► the more I read about it didn't start [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► appealing to me a little more I read [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► about it the more I thought no this is [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► totally going to appeal to gray and [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► because you can kind of make it a [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► justification for a quite easily you [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► could say well okay maybe if the [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► technology for cryogenic least [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► boring people now is flawed because it [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► is florida blue that doesn't matter it [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► just means it will be a longer wait [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► until the technology exists that can [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► undo that floor and get around the [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► problem any problem can be fixed if we [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► wait enough years and you know then I [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► started going off into all sorts of [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► Pascal's wages and all sorts of things [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► about it all becomes quite philosophical [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► and I started thinking my god I've [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► stumbled into a cgpa video here that [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► that's a good idea [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► yeah it would be a good video after you [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► actually i'll do on cryogenics and I [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► speculate that will be your favorite you [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► love that [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► yeah so why doesn't appeal to you that [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► like what is it that you find resistant [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► about the idea [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► well I don't think it will work I think [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► the technologies to crude and if it did [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► work and they're able to revive [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► something in a thousand years time I [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► don't think that thing would be me and I [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► think there would be no connection of [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► consciousness and it would be kind of a [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► pointless thing I mean you might as well [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► the frozen my shoe and brought back to [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► life it's just a vessel that won't have [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► me in it so I'm pretty skeptical about [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► the whole thing and maybe all that money [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► could be used for something better for [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► family and you know almost any cause [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► would be a better use of the money but I [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► then do you think you know what do I [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► know about what we're gonna know in a [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► thousand years and maybe having my [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► frozen brain will make something [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► possible that i just had don't [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► understand this with the whole the [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► Pascal's wager stuff starts coming in [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► doesn't say you know that it's not for [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► me but I'm finding it harder and harder [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► to dismiss people is complete nut cases [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► for wanting to do it because who knows [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► where we're going to be in a thousand [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► years and maybe just having someone to [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► turn our 1000 years will be enough to [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► completely bring them back in their [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► consciousness and everything for all we [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► know there's so much stuff we don't [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► understand about people and [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► consciousness and the brain sort of [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► fascinated by thing you just tossed out [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► there and I want to go back to this but [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► when you said let's imagine that the [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► free 0 you die and they freeze you get [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► in a thousand years they wake you up [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► yep when you said that you think it [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► might not be you [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► ya go what do you mean by that you're [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► not going to pull the sleep card on me [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► know i know but i'm curious by what you [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► mean like do you mean that the thing [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► that wakes up will be [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► witches are like won't be alive or I'm [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► not quite sure what you mean by that I [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► don't know you're asking me to speculate [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► as I think now but I think if it has a [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► consciousness that probably wouldn't be [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► my consciousness i don't think the two [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► would be connected i think there would [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► be a catastrophic breakdown of whatever [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► makes me me caused by who [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► I death be the freezing process and that [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► is something far more catastrophic than [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► falling asleep i'm not bringing it to [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► sleep so you think it would be like a [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► brand-new person waking up is that what [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► you mean I don't know I find that hard [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► to believe it would be me [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► that's very interesting whether it's [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► something with consciousness and I [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► probably would all I would be doing was [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► to be putting down you know hundred [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► thousand bucks or something so that [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► something else could exist in a thousand [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► years that's not me and will be plenty [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► of stuff to exist in a thousand years [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► without something happen to be made from [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► the mush of my brain [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► mmm stand by I'm just fascinated by that [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► because i have had over the years [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► conversations on cryogenics with people [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► sometimes I've never heard anybody have [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► that worried that the thing that that [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► would wake up wouldn't be them i think [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► that's really interesting [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► that's a really interesting different [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► take on it that I find surprising i just [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► think the preservation of the brain is [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► such a messy process at the moment and [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► so much stuff goes wrong with it and I [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► just don't think it could still be may [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► that's interesting i guess my take on it [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► the whole reason why I would be open to [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► the idea and seriously looked into it at [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► one point is because I feel like well [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► this is a total game of probabilities I [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► think anybody who's frozen now might [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► have quite literally less than a [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► one-in-a-billion chance of ever being [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► revived everything we seem to know about [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► like the way that the freezing process [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► works even putting aside like how likely [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► is it that an institution that is [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► preserving these bodies is going to last [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► for as long as necessary [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► there's so many questions around the [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► possibility of it working but the thing [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► is when you die and they burn your [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► corpse or bury you in the ground you [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► have an absolutely zero percent chance [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► of coming back so I feel like well [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► you're not going to need that money [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► after you're dead and so why not spend [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► some money [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► me on essentially like the grandest [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► lottery ticket that is possible [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► yeah why not roll those dice y just walk [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► away from the table and say I've had [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► enough thanks it was fun [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► why not take one last roll of the dice [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► with your dying hand I feel like I can [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► see that being worth doing [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► I hear your argument i guess the [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► question is at what point to those odds [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► become so small that you think a better [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► use of your money would be instead of [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► buying that lottery ticket to let [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► someone you love now use the money for [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► yeah they can use it for cryogenic [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► services that can use it for ya yeah i [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► think the payoff of potentially having [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► life in the future is shockingly high it [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► does become very very Pascal's wager e [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► in a sense because if you're talking [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► about like infinite rewards and [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► intestinal possibilities [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► I can totally see where this becomes a [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► thing where you can just kind of come [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► down on one side or the other but I feel [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► like the possibility of living again [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► after death is worth rolling the dice [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► even if it is incredibly unlikely well [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► let me ask you another more meaningful [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► question if I dare you know why do you [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► want more life because it's better than [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► being dead [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► yeah I don't think that's like a hard [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► question right yeah being dead [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► you know it doesn't seem very appealing [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► you know we've all done it before we [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► know what it's like and I don't feel [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► like having another eternity of that so [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► we don't know what it's like do you know [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► what it was like before you were born I [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► don't know what it was like before I was [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► born [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► of course you do there was nothing is [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► forever right that's what it was [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► you have no experience of anything and [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► so I feel like well of course more life [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► is better than more of that that's why [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► the cryogenic thing seems like it's [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► worth rolling the dice and taking the [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► risk [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► ok i also learned today that Walt Disney [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► wasn't currently stored really is that [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► just an urban legend [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► that's an open legend he was connected [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► Wow seen it yet cremation the opposite [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► of cryogenic yeah we want to make sure [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► there's a 0% chance we're going to take [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► your body and we're gonna put entropy to [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► the max [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► that's gonna need some rotech to bring [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► him back here yeah that is beyond the [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► pale ok [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► all information lost its just totally [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► gone no more wonders name [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► sorry everybody sorry kids thank you to [TS]

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00:38:05 ◼   ► what it's about [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► I'm not going to spoil it in fact i was [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► so spoiler-free I went into this not [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► even knowing if it was fiction or [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► nonfiction I listened to on a holiday [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► and I was so engrossed I was even [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► finding excuses to listen a bit longer [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► extending a walk going to the gym maybe [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► having just one more drink by the pole [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► actually probably the drinks by the pool [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► excuse was used a lot more than the gym [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► but you get the idea [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► this book's really addictive and worked [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► really well and audio i listened to the [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► version rated by will waiting and many [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► of you will know there's a steven [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► spielberg film on the way based on the [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► book so why not make sure your across [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► the original material before that comes [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► out audibles a top service they've got a [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► really great app there are no problems [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► exchanging books if you end up with one [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► you don't enjoy so much and although i'm [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► not used it yet i hear great things [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► about the whispersync for voice feature [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► which lets you switch back and forth [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► between reading the book on say kindle [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► or kindle app and listening to the [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► audiobook all of that without losing [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► your place where was I up to where was [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► up to the audiobook we was up to on my [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► kindle r-ky remember no problem anymore [TS]

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00:39:18 ◼   ► internet to check it out and thanks to [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► them for supporting the podcast so the [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► other thing I've been following this [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► week with great interest actually more [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► interested I would have expected is the [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► chess world championship [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► oh really mrs. come onto your radar at [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► all now I've heard another was the chess [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► world have his shift why would I know [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► there's a third world champion so you [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► don't mind chest and used to play a bit [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► so made me think [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► you know you know more about chessdom me [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► I thought certainly playing I'm a [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► terrible player but i'm very interested [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► in like the personalities and the [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► stories of jess of course you are [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► actually who you love yourself some [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► personalities and I don't care at all [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► about the people playing chess but i did [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► play chess a long time ago and I was [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► very bad when i did play a long time ago [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► but this is the first time I've ever [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► followed one as it happened and I've [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► read a lot about historic ones and I've [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► really gotten into it like I've been [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► watching like these sort of 45-minute [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► hour-long summaries of the games [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► afterwards where they explain all the [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► moves of what was going on [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► who I've been really into it for those [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► who don't know it's currently well as [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► we're recording it's currently going on [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► it probably will be over by the time [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► people hear this [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► it's between the reigning world champion [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► magnus carlsen moved from Sweden and the [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► challengers sergej carry aiken from [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► Russia and by the way [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► Magnus Carlsen is not from Sweden he's [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► from know why I just said that because I [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► knew how much it would stare up all the [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► Norwegian business [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► okay well girl I will convert the [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► trouble i even went so far as to find [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► out just to double check that Sweden was [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► the country that would upset the most [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► for me to say gonna get this this feels [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► to me like a very Brady moment ok this [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► is not a real core of your personalities [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► checking for now because I want to find [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► there's how many people like pawns the [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► podcast right and we didn't make it [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► it's instantly noticed a second ascent [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► that is totally a thing people pause the [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► podcast to immediately write out the [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► tweet and then unpause it to hear the [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► clarifying sentence little it's [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► definitely happens so you're going to [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► enjoy some of those tweets [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► I'm very aware Magnus Carlsen's from [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► nowhere actually know quite a lot about [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► him i'm oddly fascinated by himself hmm [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► anyway I've gotten so into it the other [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► night when it was happening they playing [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► in New York i actually woke up and like [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► started watching on twitch light live [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► commentary of like this six and a half [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► hour game at one point my wife wake up [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► and like I said one earth you doing [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► because i had on my iPad as it i'm [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► watching the chess tournament and it was [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► like during one of these 20 minute gaps [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► between moves when they were just all [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► talking and speculating about what might [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► happen next [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► my god it wasn't even watching the game [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► i was watching like someone else's like [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► computerized bored of it because I [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► wasn't watching the live feed of the [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► actual game [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► guys don't understand you had a [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► heartbreaking because amazing stingy [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► with all I've just gotten consumed by [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► how do they feel 20 minute gaps between [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► moves like where they comment on [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► well they have two boards on the screen [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► the 1i watched have two boards on the [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► screen okay [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► the smaller board on one side is the [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► current state of play mhm and on the [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► Left they use a bit of a sandbox and [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► they're like well he could move this one [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► here but then he'd move this one here [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► and you just watch all the potential [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► things that player and actually that [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► brought up one of the points I wanted to [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► make from watching one of my [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► observations because I've always been a [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► little bit fascinated by these grand [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► masters of chess and a little bit in all [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► of them but watching this is kind of [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► taken that away a bit and this will [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► actually probably make you love them [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► more but it makes me love them unless [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► it's made me realize how much they're [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► just like pure computers [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► uh-huh like the people who are best at [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► chess I just the people who can hold a [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► lot of information in their brain em and [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► compute lots of moves under time [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► pressure and like it's taking away some [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► of the magic I always felt of that [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► creative moments or just following like [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► an instinct or something that and it has [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► made me realize more and more that the [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► people who are best chess are people who [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► just got serious hardware up top [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► sometimes Britney I feel like I don't [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► understand you at all like what on earth [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► did you think chess grandmasters could [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► possibly be except humans with brains [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► bizarrely specialized for this one [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► activity like i'll get there anything [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► else i think because i read lots of nice [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► literature about chess players i kind of [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► just conjured up something a little bit [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► more magical in my head a little bit [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► more like creative and dashing and [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► unpredictable and like even though I'm [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► not belittling the skill of being a good [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► chess player and the amazing this other [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► it certainly beyond they are my brain [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► melts just watching a who but I've kind [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► of lost I've lost something [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► what if I lost gray help me on the word [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► I don't know what you've lost except [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► your own incorrect fantasy about which [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► has plans and what I was looking for [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► incorrect fantasy [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► like I don't know what youre imagine [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► what you're thinking chess players are [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► like poets or something I don't [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► understand what you were thinking [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► yeah maybe that's it maybe there was a [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► little bit of that like I knew they were [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► super spy could like see ahead and like [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► hot had incredible memories and had [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► computational power but i think i saw a [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► little bit more poetry in there somehow [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► and now I'm realizing that was an [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► incorrect fantasy [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► yeah this to me falls into the like the [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► thing I've said it many different places [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► in many different areas that the people [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► who are best in the world at anything [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► our total freaks because they like they [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► have to be if you have anything that's [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► remotely competitive it's like the [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► people who are best in the business [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► world if they like broken people but [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► they're broken in this useful way where [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► they create businesses for the rest of [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► us just constantly right here if you [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► look at athletes like the people who are [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► the best in the world are people who are [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► total freaks because they have a [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► combination of like the perfect genetics [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► and a kind of mental attitude that is [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► very conducive to training that nobody [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► could possibly endure and so in chess [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► where you have an activity that is just [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► incredibly perfectly cerebral and [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► computational of course you should find [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► the people in the world who are [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► functionally human computers [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► that's what you should expect to find [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► playing chess yeah I guess that's what's [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► taken away some of the magic though [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► because like if I'm watching a game of [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► cricket or football or something [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► there's not a little bar down the bottom [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► that will say what the computer says [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► that if he bowls the next ball here he [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► would definitely win the game where his [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► chest it's a bit like the computer says [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► Carlson's next move should be this [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► evening and then 99 times out of a [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► hundred that's the movie will do right [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► it's almost like well why even watching [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► humans do this now that it's not helped [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► by the fact they're playing drawer after [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► draw after draw write that they have [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► been quite exciting drawers and don't [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► get all upset chest fans i have been [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► appreciating the games and sometimes [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► they do a move that's not predicted by [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► the computer and that's quite exciting [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► and I have really enjoyed it [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► well I'm glad you enjoyed it but it to [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► me it's also like well these people [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► aren't the best chess players in the [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► world anyway any more computers of the [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► best chess players in the world so it's [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► like you're watching a bunch of [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► inadequate computers playing [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► the game it's like there could be much [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► better games being played by computers [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► but we just don't do that because people [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► want to see a human do it was like oh [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► you're not even watching the best in the [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► world because the best in the world are [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► not humans with the chess tournament [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► should actually be right is the best [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► computers Blanche our why go away [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► oh well like silliness and you know i [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► don't think that silliness [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► I think that the chest thing exists [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► because people want to see other people [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► do it but then it becomes not about like [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► what's the best chess game that exists [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► it's more about like I want to see [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► monkeys playing chess [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► look at these monkeys that are [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► freakishly like computers playing chess [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► this is what i'm actually watching you [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► want to see the the best chess game [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► watch two computers play each other but [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► nobody wants to do that because they [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► want to watch monkeys play chess monkeys [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► that are like computers that really what [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► you believe you'd rather watch trey [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► computers than the two best treatments [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► well I have no interest in watching [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► either i couldn't possibly imagine [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► watching a chess game if I said you have [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► to watch one you choose the computers [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► but your this is a different thing now [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► right what about empathy [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► what about empathizing with the players [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► and the stress there under the pressure [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► and like the egos involved that knowing [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► that one of them is going to be [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► humiliated and but that's been the most [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► interesting part of this the body [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► language the storming out of press [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► conferences the big egos been crushed [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► yeah but that's a different thing like [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► that's all we want to watch the monkeys [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► play chess [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► that's what it is like monkeys want to [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► watch a bunch of monkeys playing games [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► and i understand that like that's what [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► sports is that's what any of this stuff [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► is I think the chest one is extra funny [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► because it's an area where unlike sports [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► at least for now until the RoboCup [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► catches up [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► humans are the best in the world at [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► sports right so it's like you're [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► watching both the humans and the best [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► example of this thing possible right [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► where the chest wanted two strikes me as [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► funny because it's like well it lays [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► bare more clearly what's really [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► happening is that the humans want to [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► watch humans doing a thing right that's [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► what the Korea maybe that's partly what [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► struck me maybe that's partly the [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► emotion i was having that it's a funny [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► thing that when you say about like the [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► mechanical miss of it because this is [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► one of the reasons why I lost interest [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► in chess at a certain point was because [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► I recognize like Oh once you get beyond [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► the basics like it very quickly becomes [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► about just the sheer number of positions [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► that you have seen that you are familiar [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► with and I feel like this game became [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► less fun because of this because now i [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► see like Oh to get better it's really [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► like a game of incredible memorization [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► and it becomes like yeah I'm learning [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► routines to go through these various [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► things and I've seen some stats on how [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► long the openings are for chess games [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► until you get to like a unique position [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► that has never been seen like it's [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► incredibly long ya is one of the reasons [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► why I know Bobby Fischer was pushing his [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► version of random chess which i did play [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► a few games of and I felt like I wish [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► this had caught on because this actually [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► gets the game I think much more towards [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► what you would want which is by [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► randomizing with some rules the starting [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► location of all of the pieces i think it [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► knocks people out of the you are an [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► incredible computer that is just [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► recalling a database of moves and it [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► gets the game much more into a you have [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► to be creative because the number of [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► permutations here creates boards that no [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► one has ever seen like an every single [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► game and I think that that would [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► actually be much more interesting to [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► play and much more interesting to watch [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► play is a lousy random setup of the [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► board every time so another thing I've [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► realized this is like a naive [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► realization but it's just I found a [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► quite cute in myself who that is the [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► importance of pawns in chess like when [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► you're like dominant young like me when [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► I was playing as a kid the pawns were [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► almost these things you wanted to get [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► off the board as soon as possible was [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► like got in the way of all the powerful [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► pieces of food you know blazing they [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► weren't doing all the cool things they [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► could do and like losing a porn meant [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► nothing to me but these guys will fight [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► to the death to protect appointment who [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► forms are so important to them it's so [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► funny to me how Cavalier I always was [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► but are you go on take a few of my point [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► I don't care just means I can move my [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► queen better in all these endgames the [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► pawns it is so important to the whole [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► game [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► yeah well there's the quote which is [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► that the ponds are the soul of chest [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► which is definitely true especially [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► because of their funny attacking [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► sideways thing that the structures that [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► you end up creating with the ponds [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► really determine the flow [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► what's happening on the board but i also [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► think it's because at that high of a [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► level upon is the largest size mistake [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► could you possibly going to make right [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► like the best players in the world are [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► not going to do the kind of thing that [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► like me as a normal player would do of [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► like oops i wasn't paying attention and [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► i lost my rook right like that doesn't [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► happen you know I didn't even know you [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► could take my roof with and didn't say [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► that Bishop over there [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► yeah that's exactly it like I feel like [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► I remember we know I was terrible player [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► but i remember playing against friends [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► like intentionally hiding a bishop like [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► on the corner of the port's that you [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► just don't like someone doesn't know [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► it's like I don't think it was sort of [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► errors are happening at the grand master [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► level but so I think the only thing that [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► ends up happening is upon level error [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► yeah I don't think this cows gonna say [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► all I forgot that one could move [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► diagonal ation yeah exactly like those [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► night there so tricky with their [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► l-shaped moves that way to get that's [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► like the biggest mistake that's ever [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► going to happen is if someone gets [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► maneuvered into a position where they [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► end up losing upon and then that is [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► actually quite dramatic at the grand [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► master level [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► yeah and my last observation who maybe [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► suggestion and I know this is gonna let [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► upset some people who but I'm i don't [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► know how i feel about it I don't think [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► people should resign in games of chess [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► who but I understand when they agree to [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► a draw but what happens in so many games [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► is one of them resins and I can't even [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► really see why they've lost em and then [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► let the experts will say well this would [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► have happened in this would have [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► happened then of course this would have [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► happened there will be no choice but [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► this would have happened and ultimately [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► he would have been left in this position [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► in which case he would have lost who I [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► think they should play it out just for [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► the spectators and also there's [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► something so dramatic about checkmate [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► little that you never see check my in [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► games of chess between grandmasters [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► because they both see it coming a mile [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► off who and resign before it happens and [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► i think we should get to see the death [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► of the king who [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► and also I think you should be made to [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► go through if you lose you should be [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► made to play it out and lose your king I [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► find a little bit disappointing and I [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► can see reasons for you know saving time [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► and energy that but I think you [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► shouldn't resign i think they should [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► play it out and we should get to see the [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► check back we should get to see the coup [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► de Gras I mean could you imagine in a [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► baseball game if a better example might [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► be a football game or something in a [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► football game and some team is [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► down by 30 points and there's 20 30 [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► seconds left they still play to the [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► buzzer [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► you don't just the other team doesn't [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► just walk off so you have one and leave [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► the field we got no hope now we're never [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► gonna come back in that time before you [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► play there i would like to see these [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► chess games played out i was thinking of [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► how at our alabama football game like [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► what would be the feeling in the stadium [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► if the opposing team just halfway [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► through just walked off like okay we [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► resign if you like are you kidding me [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► we're here for a thing like to watch the [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► thing i'm totally with you like if [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► resigning is a super common thing at the [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► grand master level i would feel really [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► disappointed by that if i was a fan and [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► I wouldn't watch grand master chess cry [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► you'd never see a check night [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► it's always a resignation now i have [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► many reasons not to watch like what you [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► want to see is I want to see someone's [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► King dramatically knocked over right [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► there has to be the end of every chess [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► game [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► checkmate so exciting but they just [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► never do and i understand i see it [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► coming and it's inevitable but i still [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► think I play it out for us to see it [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► happen and be you never know mistakes [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► get made [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► I'm with you I'm with you on this one [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► play to the end people don't resign [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► don't resign like a chicken right yeah [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► exactly people should make the garden [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► oasis in the audience when someone [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► resins is there an audience can people [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► like jeer I don't understand either but [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► yeah there's an audience for your [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► audience's it was famous all the [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► problems with the audience and the bobby [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► fischer Spassky chess game of the [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► century before show always said they're [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► making too much noise or one of them [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► further away and he was a really funny [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► being about the audience so then they [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► went played in a back room for two or [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► three games because he didn't want an [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► audience and they put camera in there so [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► the audience could watch out in the hole [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► and then eventually he agreed to come [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► back out into the hole but we go again [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► I'm sure Bobby Fischer was a supernormal [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► dude right because it's the best person [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► that chest in the world and the picture [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► of your malice see ya [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► yeah i like the idea of people blocking [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► at the person who resigns you should [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► play until the end [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► yeah and i agree with you like it is [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► almost impossible to imagine that in the [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► history of chess no grand master has [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► ever resigned a game that they would [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► have won if they played through to the [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► end [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► yeah right like that has to be the case [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► that someone was wrong at some point so [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► I think they should play through to the [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► end even if they play faster this is to [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► play through to the end without a doubt [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► maybe you and I should play chess [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► breathing oh that would be that would [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► not be good [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► no we said two against Iran [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► chess on the YouTube channel and we let [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► people comment on it when people could [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► do running commentaries unless the [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► random configuration starts with me [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► already having given checkmate [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► I don't fancy much answers but so great [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► i have started putting a small piece of [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► black tape over my webcam [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► oh really why have you done that Brady [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► why have you done that well obviously [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► this is following up on a discussion [TS]