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00:00:00   naughty check audio check naughty check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   i was a bit naughty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2">TS</a>]

00:00:05   you know how I don't like totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5">TS</a>]

00:00:08   understand the difference between you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/8">TS</a>]

00:00:10   and I when it comes to objects and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/10">TS</a>]

00:00:12   memorabilia and mementos and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/12">TS</a>]

00:00:15   what's not to understand seems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/15">TS</a>]

00:00:16   clear well I realize we're different but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/16">TS</a>]

00:00:20   I just always trying to understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/20">TS</a>]

00:00:21   better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/21">TS</a>]

00:00:22   so I've come up with a hypothetical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24   scenario ok and i want to know how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/24">TS</a>]

00:00:26   would react and I know this is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/26">TS</a>]

00:00:28   crazy hypothetical scenario but it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   help me better understand you so just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   with me for a second okay so we're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/32">TS</a>]

00:00:35   a thought experiment after experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/35">TS</a>]

00:00:36   yet I was trying to think of someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38   who's famous who I think you hold in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40   high regard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/40">TS</a>]

00:00:41   so I've gone for a long mascara ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/41">TS</a>]

00:00:44   alright say Elon Musk came to London and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47   for some reason he emailed you and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   our cgpgrey I he live in London and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   liked a couple of videos notice wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/52">TS</a>]

00:00:53   if you want to go for a coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   ok I'm sure that you would say yes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/55">TS</a>]

00:00:56   that so you go for a quick coffee with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58   him and he just chat about whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   to want to chat about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/60">TS</a>]

00:01:01   and while you're at coffee he like has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   napkin or something and he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   sketching and drawing little and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   draws like just a funny picture of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   two sitting at a table and at the end he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/69">TS</a>]

00:01:10   decides that and so do on this industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   the service is sitting having a chat to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   gray great to meet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   Elon Musk what do you do with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19   napkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/79">TS</a>]

00:01:20   well there's two things that occur here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   one of which is trying to navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/82">TS</a>]

00:01:26   social graces yet so i think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   many times when you need to be seen as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/88">TS</a>]

00:01:31   receiving a gift I cared you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   intention of actually keeping so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/93">TS</a>]

00:01:35   not going to screw it up and throw it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/95">TS</a>]

00:01:36   his face because as i have learned in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/96">TS</a>]

00:01:41   interactions with people over my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   sometimes you have to try to accept what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/103">TS</a>]

00:01:47   the person is doing not like that actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/107">TS</a>]

00:01:51   nitpicky details of the situation yet a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   person is just trying to extend a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/113">TS</a>]

00:01:57   gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   yep and you need to accept the gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/118">TS</a>]

00:02:03   because rejecting it is a whole other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/123">TS</a>]

00:02:07   indication that is not intended i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   how you explain this like you've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   discovered the skies below it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   you're imparting wisdom when this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14   just cold like normal human behavior and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/134">TS</a>]

00:02:16   matters that this is the thing humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/136">TS</a>]

00:02:19   have to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/139">TS</a>]

00:02:20   yes of course and i like to think anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/140">TS</a>]

00:02:23   above the age of 10 will take the gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   and say thank you very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/145">TS</a>]

00:02:26   regardless of what they think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   gift so let's say that you've said thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   you mr. mask shook his hand said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32   enjoyed coffee thanks for the net can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34   see around now you've got this napkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/154">TS</a>]

00:02:36   with a hand drawn sketch by alien mask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/156">TS</a>]

00:02:39   signed by him of a moment you two shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   em what do you do with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43   well I would do what I do with almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/163">TS</a>]

00:02:47   everything which is I would take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   picture of it and get rid of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52   that's what i would do it right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/172">TS</a>]

00:02:53   what you want is the memory you want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/173">TS</a>]

00:02:56   signifier of the thing okay but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59   don't actually want the thing okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02   does that make sense yes how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05   interpret the results of this thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   experiment i remain baffled its kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/187">TS</a>]

00:03:10   the answer I expected but uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13   is there any object other than something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   that you're keeping just for pure cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/195">TS</a>]

00:03:17   reasons that you would take for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   sentimental reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   is there anything I could have come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   with in my hypothetical that you'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   said oh yeah I probably get that put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   a frame and put it on my wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28   did I just think of an adequately cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/208">TS</a>]

00:03:31   thing or is there nothing you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/211">TS</a>]

00:03:32   frame moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   I feel like there has to be an answer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/214">TS</a>]

00:03:38   this where an object also has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/218">TS</a>]

00:03:41   decorative value so you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   framing a thing i'm not against having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   stuff in frames and displayed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   abstract I'm not necessarily an advocate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/228">TS</a>]

00:03:51   for pure bare walls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   yeah like framing and Afghan would seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   like a strange thing to do so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/235">TS</a>]

00:03:56   wouldn't necessarily have that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   value i can imagine a situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/238">TS</a>]

00:04:00   there is an object that has decorative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/240">TS</a>]

00:04:03   and sentimental value that I would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06   to keep would stay around can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/246">TS</a>]

00:04:07   concoct one in your head now or does one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   exist in your house which would be even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/251">TS</a>]

00:04:12   I just had an object from the last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/252">TS</a>]

00:04:15   that's what made me even think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/255">TS</a>]

00:04:16   this okay because you know i'm a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   bit obsessed with graham's number which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   is this hugely big number used to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   biggest number ever and still famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/262">TS</a>]

00:04:23   number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/263">TS</a>]

00:04:24   and I met Ron Graham in the US and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/264">TS</a>]

00:04:27   made some videos together and he got at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   the big pieces of paper we use a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/269">TS</a>]

00:04:30   file and he drew numbers and diagrams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   and explained it to me and at the end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   going to sign up you know from Ron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35   Graham little and I've had one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37   big bits of paper of Ron grams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   description of graham's number in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   frame because it for me it was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   was always obsessed with graham's number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/283">TS</a>]

00:04:44   as a kid I met the guy we shared a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/284">TS</a>]

00:04:47   together we went for dinner he drew all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   these pictures for me i'm going to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/289">TS</a>]

00:04:50   one and it's like special to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/290">TS</a>]

00:04:53   I'm trying to find what your equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54   of that is yeah but the graham's number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   thing like to me that is cool i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   totally understand why you would want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   frame that and have that on display like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/300">TS</a>]

00:05:03   that makes sense i have no objection to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/303">TS</a>]

00:05:04   that I have much more the objection to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   your box full of astronaut photos that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09   you never look at your multiple chest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   full of astronautics that you never look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   at that's him he seems like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   hoarding objects or no benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/315">TS</a>]

00:05:16   whatsoever but the grabs everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   makes sense and also even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/318">TS</a>]

00:05:19   mathematical proofs and explanations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   like that they have a particular kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   austerity beauty about them so they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/323">TS</a>]

00:05:26   sense as an object to bring my other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   hypothetical I was going to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/329">TS</a>]

00:05:30   before i came up with my coffee one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   I was imagining that if a lot mask set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35   up by the way gray he is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   sketch of a tester I ever did when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   first thought of it i just quickly put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/339">TS</a>]

00:05:40   something down but the only reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   didn't give that to you as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/342">TS</a>]

00:05:43   hypothetical because i need to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   rational inside well that's worth a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/345">TS</a>]

00:05:46   of money so of course I'm gonna take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/346">TS</a>]

00:05:47   that cake but seven is exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/347">TS</a>]

00:05:51   clockwork that's going through my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52   right now as it's ok it's like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   is like a Leonardo DaVinci sketch of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   helicopter has like the thing itself is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   not valuable but like the thing that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   represents has value to other people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   so now you can start playing this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   of what do other people value giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   objects intrinsic worth that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   necessarily have on their own because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12   you know you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   did nothing useful in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   engineering he just drew pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/375">TS</a>]

00:06:16   things that couldn't be invented but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   all sort of like collectively agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   society that they must have worth so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/380">TS</a>]

00:06:21   they have this incredible worth so is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/381">TS</a>]

00:06:24   have a hard time separating Elon Musk's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26   original sketches of Tesla have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/386">TS</a>]

00:06:29   intrinsic value because humans would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   value them as interesting valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   objects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34   yeah from the thing itself I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   you can't separate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   does two things I shouldn't be surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/398">TS</a>]

00:06:42   anymore but you still manage to surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/402">TS</a>]

00:06:43   me with your lack of sentimentality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45   I think it's just the way some people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/405">TS</a>]

00:06:48   brains work and i said before that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/408">TS</a>]

00:06:52   find rooms with lots of objects in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/412">TS</a>]

00:06:55   it's almost similar to being in a room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   that's kind of noisy somehow it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/417">TS</a>]

00:07:00   distracting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02   like it makes focusing on things harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   when there's lots of things in a room so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   I feel like reducing the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   objects is like a way of focusing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/428">TS</a>]

00:07:12   few things that you actually care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/432">TS</a>]

00:07:15   or want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/435">TS</a>]

00:07:16   it's why we like with almost everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   I have I try to reduce it down to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   the minimum number of necessary parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23   that is the thing that is like unrelated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   to sentimentality there's a certain kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   of noise that I find with a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   object but some people just don't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/449">TS</a>]

00:07:30   that and I think that's what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31   difference is here that there's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   benefit to the minimalism which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   separated from the aesthetics of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/456">TS</a>]

00:07:39   minimalism I thought maybe it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   related to like you know your extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   personality because you know how your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   library funny about germs and stuff as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   well and not really funny about terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50   i'm actually just quite reasonable about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/470">TS</a>]

00:07:51   germs well of course it's just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   I've thought it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/473">TS</a>]

00:07:54   yeah this is not an extreme personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   trait I fundamentally disagree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57   and I will not let you just throw out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58   such an aspersion about an hour to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/478">TS</a>]

00:08:01   like character with germs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/481">TS</a>]

00:08:02   okay no that's what I'm saying no no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/482">TS</a>]

00:08:05   really was putting it there for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   like go either way I'm quite open to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/487">TS</a>]

00:08:08   fact that it's completely unrelated move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   i'm just wondering if it could also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   related you can find distraction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   worry quite easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   I sometimes think I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/496">TS</a>]

00:08:17   fair and i think this is the fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/497">TS</a>]

00:08:20   nature of our podcast here is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/500">TS</a>]

00:08:24   difficulty or an inability to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/504">TS</a>]

00:08:27   the minds of other people human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   communication between humans is just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/509">TS</a>]

00:08:32   hard sometimes when you're really trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   to get down to hit like a fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/514">TS</a>]

00:08:38   question of what is it like to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   brady and what is it like to be a gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   it's a very hard thing to know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44   don't really know what it's like to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   brady I think I have some ideas of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/526">TS</a>]

00:08:49   it's like to be a Brady but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/529">TS</a>]

00:08:50   really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   oh and your life is mysterious to me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54   well like I don't know how you do all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   the things that you do i find that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/536">TS</a>]

00:08:59   mysteriously I don't know what it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   to be a Brady because I'm not a brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   that's why I come up with stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/542">TS</a>]

00:09:03   hypotheticals about you having a coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   with Elon Musk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/545">TS</a>]

00:09:06   this isn't just another line of attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   in my never-ending quest to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   what it's like to be a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   it's so hard to convey the contents of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   one's mind yeah that's ultimately the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/554">TS</a>]

00:09:17   difficulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/557">TS</a>]

00:09:18   yeah but I can imagine you sitting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/558">TS</a>]

00:09:19   your computer are about to work and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/559">TS</a>]

00:09:22   let the thought comes into your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/562">TS</a>]

00:09:23   that you didn't put your toothbrush away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   and i can imagine you wouldn't be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   to start working till you went and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/568">TS</a>]

00:09:29   your toothbrush in the right place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/569">TS</a>]

00:09:30   because like the thought that maybe your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   toothbrushes too close to the toilet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/572">TS</a>]

00:09:33   you know has fallen onto a dirty surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/573">TS</a>]

00:09:37   I think he would not be able to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   until you fix that and it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   with maybe if a picture on the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   like you are easily distractible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   everyone's a bit like that but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   you're very like that but maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   wrong maybe you could just crack on work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/588">TS</a>]

00:09:49   knowing that your toothbrushes not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   put away properly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/591">TS</a>]

00:09:52   that's super funny because that to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/592">TS</a>]

00:09:54   falls into the leg OCD like behavior and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/594">TS</a>]

00:09:57   I feel like I've never had that feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   of something is not right i need to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   fix it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03   ok and so that's why I want the minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   number of things because there's few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/605">TS</a>]

00:10:06   things to keep straight in the house the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/606">TS</a>]

00:10:09   toothbrush thing it's on like it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   drives my wife crazy that I tend to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   leave the electronic toothbrush and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/613">TS</a>]

00:10:17   toothpaste in random locations around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/617">TS</a>]

00:10:18   the house all the time because I sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   peace around when I'm brushing my teeth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   and then I don't pay attention when i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   done like with the toothbrush and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   kind of put it down and leave it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/626">TS</a>]

00:10:27   and totally forget about it so that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   a perfect case of like it never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   occurred to me to worry about like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/630">TS</a>]

00:10:31   where is the toothbrush is it too close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33   to the toilet what about those germs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   I'm surprised by that as interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/635">TS</a>]

00:10:36   know that you would just leave your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37   toothbrush somewhere random I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   have thought you would do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   yeah there's something about it which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/641">TS</a>]

00:10:42   slides below my threshold of recognizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/642">TS</a>]

00:10:45   it there's like a little bit of a habit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   of just walking around while I brush my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/647">TS</a>]

00:10:48   teeth and then I just put it down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   totally forget about where it is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/650">TS</a>]

00:10:51   speaking of objects and what to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/651">TS</a>]

00:10:56   objects m lady you and I were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59   have a bit of a problem on our hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   because the hello internet YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/661">TS</a>]

00:11:04   channel has recently crossed a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/664">TS</a>]

00:11:08   thousand subscribers much to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/668">TS</a>]

00:11:11   amazement I still have a hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/671">TS</a>]

00:11:12   believing how many people actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   prefer to listen to the show on YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/674">TS</a>]

00:11:17   which is baffling to me but yes we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/677">TS</a>]

00:11:20   crossed a hundred thousand subscribers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   and as you know because you have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/682">TS</a>]

00:11:27   this many times with many channels when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/687">TS</a>]

00:11:31   you cross a hundred thousand subscribers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/691">TS</a>]

00:11:32   youtube sends you a trophy of sorts with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/692">TS</a>]

00:11:37   their silver play button 400,000 how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40   many of these do you have now breeding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/700">TS</a>]

00:11:41   well i have six here are we even going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/701">TS</a>]

00:11:47   to pretend there's like a debate to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   had here like why are we even talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/711">TS</a>]

00:11:52   everyone who has source go past a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   hundred thousand knows what's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   happen you know what's going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   I know what's gonna happen I know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00   gonna happen is i would like this trophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/720">TS</a>]

00:12:04   for myself I feel like you have six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   trophies if I'm going to get any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/726">TS</a>]

00:12:11   trophies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/731">TS</a>]

00:12:12   this is the one that I want you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15   this one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/735">TS</a>]

00:12:15   yeah I want this one I want to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/735">TS</a>]

00:12:18   above my mantle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   yeah I want to put it above the mantel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   yet so that i can look at this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   accomplishment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25   yeah of the internet YouTube channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   which is this kind of Island related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   the main project of the podcast i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/749">TS</a>]

00:12:32   this trophy I want to have it all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/752">TS</a>]

00:12:35   well I want to keep it i actually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   just had one of my other channels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39   morning my first channels nothing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   science actually just passed 200 k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43   congratulations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/763">TS</a>]

00:12:44   numberphile to is on 97 k and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47   objectivity is on 92 k so if people want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/767">TS</a>]

00:12:50   to help me every team's wanna help me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/770">TS</a>]

00:12:51   out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52   go and subscribe to objectivity for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   God's sake of such a good channel needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/774">TS</a>]

00:12:55   more subscribers so if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   subscribe to those i could potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   have another three anyway in the coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   months I was hoping you'd give me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/781">TS</a>]

00:13:04   hello internet once i could have 10 mm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   that looks like I'm gonna have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   content with 9i think precisely because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   you wanted for number ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   I'm going to receive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   for my first it's a carefree era and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/794">TS</a>]

00:13:21   plan is I'm going to take a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   it and then I'm going to throw it away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   they're not right impressive the silver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   buttons the gold buttons are impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   and I know you haven't got your gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/809">TS</a>]

00:13:30   button that you're entitled to but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   gold buttons are very impressive but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/812">TS</a>]

00:13:35   silver buttons they seem a bit cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   and that was nicely framed and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40   load smaller and move and they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   nice i don't have to do i guess but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   don't think you'll be overly impressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   fire to hear that YouTube Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   collector of silver play buttons not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/828">TS</a>]

00:13:52   impressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53   yeah i guess they seem a bit boring when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   you start getting close to 10 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/835">TS</a>]

00:13:57   unremarkable they're still in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   boxes and they're stored under a safer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   my place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/841">TS</a>]

00:14:02   yeah I know ok ok so let me ask you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/842">TS</a>]

00:14:07   you have them in boxes on opens I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10   doing is sofa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/850">TS</a>]

00:14:11   why would you even want the hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   Internet 100,000 i do still like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   idea of putting them on a wall was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16   little collection I have loads of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   frame stuff I haven't put on walls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/858">TS</a>]

00:14:19   because I never actually get around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   I'm not very good at hanging things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/861">TS</a>]

00:14:22   wolves so I always worry i'll do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/862">TS</a>]

00:14:25   badly or especially trying to hang ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   silver buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   how on earth am I going to get them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   straight and lined up i know i'll do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   crooked I'm so bad a handyman stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   they'll be all crooked and all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   place and they won't form a nice grid on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   the wall and it would drive me crazy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40   for that reason I never get around to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   but i do like the idea of having old 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   one day like on a wall i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   could be quite nifty in an office or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/888">TS</a>]

00:14:49   yeah but you'd be sitting down at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/889">TS</a>]

00:14:50   computer trying to get to work and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   you think are there not quite straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   and then you leave up to fix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/894">TS</a>]

00:14:55   that would do my head in if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   looking at like really unstrained things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/897">TS</a>]

00:15:00   on the world that's it's unacceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   well I know you going to let me have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03   so that you're so confident how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   know that i'm going to let you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/905">TS</a>]

00:15:06   maybe I'm serious what would you do if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/906">TS</a>]

00:15:07   was serious about this Brady I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09   really surprised you don't strike me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   someone who would do something terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/911">TS</a>]

00:15:12   to people you don't like it alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   someone you kind of get along with say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/914">TS</a>]

00:15:17   just don't think you do it but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   i'm open to being surprised you know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   probably putting fuel on the fire now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   being so sort of sure that you won't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/923">TS</a>]

00:15:26   well actually wonder like how would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   tube resolve this because if YouTube is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/928">TS</a>]

00:15:32   good at anything it's good at making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/932">TS</a>]

00:15:33   sure everybody's happy all the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   so i presume that they only give out one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/935">TS</a>]

00:15:38   button per channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/938">TS</a>]

00:15:39   yeah so i would love to know is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   would happen if we both told youtube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   that we each one of the button i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   like to test you tube system here at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/945">TS</a>]

00:15:48   like to test YouTube's patients and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   what happens if we each demand a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/950">TS</a>]

00:15:53   I think we should do it I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/953">TS</a>]

00:15:54   should see what happens ask them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   configure ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/956">TS</a>]

00:15:57   yeah I think maybe maybe you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/957">TS</a>]

00:16:00   sufficient clout that do it but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   I probably why do you know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   thing is the breeding yeah I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06   don't want to do that because victory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/966">TS</a>]

00:16:09   would just be defeat because as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   full well I cannot even pretend for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/971">TS</a>]

00:16:14   sake of the podcast that I actually want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   you can sue play button and if we made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18   youtube send out to play buttons i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/978">TS</a>]

00:16:22   just feel like oh I really have to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   this but i just i have just received a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/985">TS</a>]

00:16:29   bowling ball that will now have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/989">TS</a>]

00:16:30   travel with me for the rest of my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   well victory would be defeat and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   not even a thing that I can pretend like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36   i want to mess around with like someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   at YouTube right now listening to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/998">TS</a>]

00:16:39   podcast is like getting ready to type an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   email to someone about sending off to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:42   like you know what I don't want that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44   can't even pretend to do I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   play button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:47   I'm very happy for you to have it well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   mean there are other things that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:50   be done here great i mean you could give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   me both and then you could take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   light now I had 11 silver play button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   and how difficult it would be to display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58   that would be pretty funny i did see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:02   someone suggests that we could note down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   the silver play button and cast it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   the hello Internet medals of Honor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09   oh yeah anything was meltdown about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:12   would actually be an excellent idea but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:13   obviously that Victoria Crosses and made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:16   from like a melted down can and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   like that so that will be quite a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   touch I didn't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:21   yeah i think it's a cannon from the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   big lot of metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   mm that's an interesting trivia fact and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28   I I'm not checking it right now so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   I've got it wrong i'm just going to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:31   it something on the reddit that's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34   just say it confidently people will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   along with it they definitely made from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:37   the one source of metal from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   some war relic I mean I've actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   encountered and not too dissimilar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   problem if I can have a little humble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   brag for a minute gray no please go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:47   ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:47   sixty symbols the physics channel has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:50   recently been awarded something called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   the Kelvin metal which is the institute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:55   of physics in the UK gives out like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   metal each year for outreach and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:00   wanted this year which is this huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:01   honor and we look we're picking it up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   december i think that some awards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:06   ceremony and congratulations thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   very much i thought you'd like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09   called the Kelvin medal I know you love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10   the name Lord Kelvin it's named after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:12   very cool but the problem is this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:15   humble bad move that will only give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   to three recipients the most much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   the Nobel price you have to have three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   named people and obviously sixty symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   is this big ensemble cast so right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:28   decision was taken that my name should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   be on it because I make all the videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   so they thought well that's probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   one the easiest one decision right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   then we've put to other of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   scientists on the project's name in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   submission so we could get at maximum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   three and we just sort of arbitrarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   chose to who probably have done the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:47   videos but then we have all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:48   scientists who have been involved in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   project some of them done loads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51   loads of videos who are named but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:54   we've done is we also get prize money i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57   can't remember how much is so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   a thousand pounds or something and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01   going to use all the prize money to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03   replica medals made and we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05   give medals to everyone on the project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   so we kind of go around the problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   way the people who get the replicants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   will their medals just have their name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14   on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   where will you also stamp your name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   bring Aaron above their name on all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   the replicas so that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   understands have Brady gets the respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:24   he deserves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:25   on every single metal is that was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   to happen like here's your medal Joe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:30   right at the top it says Brady Aryan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   below it says professor Joe we could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:37   even meaner and let make them true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:38   replicas and just have the medals with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   our three names on them and the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   they get given doesn't even have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:43   name on it it's got the name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:44   other three people how are you going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:48   do this pretty what is the plan is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   just going to have their name on it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:51   is it going to have there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:52   mad your name and I certainly hope as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:55   good my name when I think good i am not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:56   actually responsible for this process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   ok i will happily take credit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   suggesting it but i will not be involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:03   in the execution of it so this will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   decision for other people but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   the best option by far away will be just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   to have the name of the recipient I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   think that's probably the best I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   even know if on the night when we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   like the real medal at the ceremony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   whether we get three or we get one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   share between us so I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   what's going to happen there it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   a real band far it's a real bunfight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   15 that's like a tear I've never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   the term bunfight it's something my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   parents would say so that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:33   realized I probably should have said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:34   was it may 15 I don't think this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:37   real thing I think this is just a brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   family term a bun fight is a sustained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:42   overblown argument about a petty matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:45   so it sounds like just the sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:46   I get into it sounds like a hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:49   Internet traffic record it does yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   sounds like every episode we've ever had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:54   yeah but our disagreements petty yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:58   are they sustained over a long period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   time in some cases years we should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1260">TS</a>]

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00:21:20   I don't know about you but I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   watching a lot of narcos on Netflix I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   been really enjoying it but the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   thing that I always find frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   with shows like this is I feel like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   never really go into enough of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   details of exactly how the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34   works i'll talk a little bit about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:38   you try to smuggle drugs across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   border or the difficulty of getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41   payments back across the border but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   never enough for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   this led me to go looking around to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   if there were any good books written on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   the business of drug dealing and i came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:52   across an economics how to run a drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   cartel by tom Wainwright if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:58   start a drug empire of your own i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   this would be the place to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   they go through the personnel problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:05   as a drug dealer the difficulty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   managing customer service over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   internet when you're selling your drugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   via the darker corners of that global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:14   network and a whole other bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   details about how it is the drug cartels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:19   are run so check out the economics on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:22   audible.com along with their hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:26   thousand plus other things to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:29   audibles where I get all of my audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31   books and you should too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   you can download your audiobook files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   you can listen on your phone using their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   player you can listen on your android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   device you can listen on your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   you can listen just about wherever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:42   want if you're one of those people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   uses a kindle you can actually get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:45   audio book and the e-book and Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:48   will synchronize both of them together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49   which sounds quite nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   it really is the place to go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:52   audiobooks and I think audiobooks are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:56   way that i can read much more than i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:59   would otherwise go check out audible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:02   check out and economics if that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   interesting to you go to audible.com / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:08   hello Internet to get your free 30-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   trial and to let audible know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   are supporting this podcast just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:15   anybody who didn't know I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   responsible to break some celebrity news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:21   yeah which is that it seems the Brad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:24   Pitt and Angelina Jolie em are breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:28   up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:28   they're getting a divorce mm I feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   need to mention this mostly so that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:34   can just recently defy the concept that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   I was right at the time in the quiz show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:39   that they were still married but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:42   getting a divorce and I found it an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45   entertaining experience to be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48   receiving end of a very large number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   messages from strangers informing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   that Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:54   breaking up at that supports what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   occurring and finding out like through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   my email inbox from random feedback from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:01   strangers on the internet who want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   let me know that my answer to a quiz so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   question on the previous episode would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   no longer be the case going forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10   sorry Brad jolina it's all over isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:14   brand jolina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:15   I don't know brangelina natalina branch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:18   I think you need the end in there i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   simply realizing this is never a word i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22   have heard out loud i have only ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   seen written Brangelina anything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:28   what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:29   whenever one of these stories gets like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   you know like BBC will do a breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   news alert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:34   Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:35   to divorce and some people will say how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:38   do you make that breaking news so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:39   trivial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:40   people are dying all over the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:41   haven't you got better things to report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   this always happens right does it okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46   yeah i'll tell you what there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:47   another big breaking story in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:50   week that was truly a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:53   great do you know anything about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   television show The Great British Bake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   Off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58   I only know that it exists because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:02   has this funny name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:03   I've heard people reference it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   maybe you have mentioned the existence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   of this to me before or somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:09   yeah so I know that there exists a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   called the Great British Bake Off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   yeah but I know nothing else about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16   well I think that's been a big story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:19   this week and it has had many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20   interesting components to it which if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   you did follow what you would find quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23   interesting but for those people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:26   don't know which is which is anyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   probably was outside the UK just so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   understand what the show is there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33   big posh tent like a marquee in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   grounds of like some big famous mansion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   in England and that's where their host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   this show and they've set up all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:40   little many kitchens in that they've all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   got their own little kitchen bar and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44   can all see each other or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45   I've got like ovens and mixes and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   i think at the start there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   like 12 or more contestants and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:52   like a baking show it's a baking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   competition show and h we could be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   bread week or pastry weekend things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:59   they all have to do these challenges and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:00   they have to make their own recipes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   it's a competition and it's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   fun and it's got these two hosts who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   really funny these two women who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   deliberately make lots of corny puns and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   its kind of the tweet joke about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:13   there are these two judges this I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:14   grumpy York sherman who is a expert on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:18   baking bread but he's also a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:19   silver fox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20   so I think he's been a housewives a rip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   and this old lady you think she's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:26   about 80 years old or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:27   that and she's like everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   grandmother she's called Mary berry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   she's like a celebrity chef for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   million years in England and now she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:34   this matriarch and these two other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   judges and they decide each week who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:39   goes home so it's the contest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   everyone in the country gets gripped by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   who's going to go home this week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:44   who's gonna win the bake-off this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   ok so there is an elimination round each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   episode yeah someone's getting booted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   off the island who's it going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   exactly ok it's quite arbitrary just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   judges decide but it's based on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:57   three things they do throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58   episode and there's like a star Baker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   who wins for the week that means nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   except a little bit of glory and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:03   one person gets booted off and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:06   last man or woman standing windsor I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   think it's been 10 6 or 7 series and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   it's just growing in popularity it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   become a real institution and the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:15   is obsessed with it and like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:16   always reporting on a market so-and-so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   got booted off this weekend you believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   it up sometimes be on the front page of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:21   newspapers and I think what's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24   British about in some ways is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   the British people revel in the trivial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   and silver that but that's the scanner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   will be you know so-and-so took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   someone's legs by mistake and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   so and so's left something in the oven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   for too long and burn the cake and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:39   it becomes this big national story and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40   think everyone's kind of in on the joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   that was so obsessed with this baking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   competition is it a joke now I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   human politics seemed to be vicious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:50   directly in proportion to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   pettiness many people seem to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   most upset over the tiniest things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   sometimes yeah although the thing is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   of the things that's so good about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:00   show it's important to set a BBC show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   it's made by production company but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   always been on the baby say and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   one of the things that makes the Great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:07   British Bake of different from other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:08   shows is there isn't a really pleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:12   streak running through it no one's ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   angry anyone gets booted off they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   always very gracious they always help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   each other the contestants when these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   scandals happen when someone you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23   take someone's thing out of the fridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   early people never get angry at each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   other it's like it's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   spirited it's just in a cynical world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:32   evil is this like bastion of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:36   Isis it's just nice in a tent where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:39   everyone's baking cakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:40   it's always pretty and even when someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:43   burns their cake maryberry the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   granny or tell them they tried hard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:46   like it's just this lovely thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:49   ok it's huge at the moment and like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:52   11 million people are watching our awake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   and what happened this week was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56   production company that made a are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   obviously pretty Grady had been trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   to extract every last cent out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   baby say and they just wanted too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   money for the show and the BBC what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:07   we're not buying that and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   obviously wants this show so one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:10   commercial television stations in the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:13   channel 4 have swooped and paid some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:16   ridiculous amount of money like 75 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   million pounds for the show Luo so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   next series of that next year's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   on channel 4 and this was a huge story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25   because the baby see you know is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   institution obviously and this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   their key shows and have lost this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   it's been stolen and there's huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   amounts of money involved and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   was like how can you believe it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   it's leaving the baby say sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:38   the BBC always loses their big shows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   this happened with top here by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:43   remembering that even remotely correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   was top gear BBC yes that's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   different reasons but it is true the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   baby sometimes do lose their stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   because they get poached off but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:52   why this is so interesting because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:55   always think when the BBC makes someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   really famous like a news presenter or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   TV presenter and they very often get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   paged by the corporate channels right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   that can get off of them bigger salaries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   and then they kind of just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:06   disappear because the baby say while not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:09   being able to pay you quite as much has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12   all the profile it has all the reach it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   has the market penetration and it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:17   makes you famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:18   so it's interesting how often people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:19   become famous on the BBC think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   Charlie big potatoes go over to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:24   commercial Network and then they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25   disappear into nothingness because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:28   BBC's not making them famous anymore so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   everyone's like what's going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   to the Great British Bake Off and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:33   goes channel 4 is it still going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   as nice and good or is now going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   commercials and there was going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:38   trying to sell you products all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   and blue is it going to lose its magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   right so I know this is gripping boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45   so anyway the next day the two hosts who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:50   are really funny and really make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:51   show huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:52   these two comedians I mentioned record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   melon so they announced publicly we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57   not going to chase the dough they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   to use a patent good and they said we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:01   not going we're going to stay at the BBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:02   we're not going to be on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:03   anymore and everyone's like oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   goodness this is amazing what with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   bake-off be like without the host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   anymore can't believe this happened and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   then the next day unbelievably maryberry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:15   the old grandmother of cooking also says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:19   I'm not going either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:20   my loyalties to the BBC the BBC made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   this show what is I wish everyone luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:25   and have fun but i'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   channel for either so all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   channel 4 has paid like you know 75 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   million pounds basically for one judge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:35   and a tent in a go ahead and and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:38   lost or left stars of the show and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40   everyone's thinking well is she gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   any good but now there's all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:43   intellectual property stuff going on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   everyone saying maybe the BBC gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:48   their own baking show you just keep all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:49   the same hosts and it makes you wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   what channel 4 of bored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:52   this is the strange thing with the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   of companies acquiring things for talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:58   for talented people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   yeah if you're buying the show but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:04   old granny she's not going your silver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   fox guy isn't going no silver foxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:09   going he's the one he is chasing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   dough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12   okay well yeah that's because he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   smart silver fox right there that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   his name is Paul Hollywood tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:17   you love that it's yeah it's also it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:25   so I'm British I know that's not real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:31   that's like an actor's guild name that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33   can't be real living out his actual name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:34   my name is max power think no it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:37   but it's an interesting question about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40   like what have you bought what is a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:44   how do you transfer it from one location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:45   to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   who are the key players in this like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:51   do you get the loyalty of the people of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:52   necessary to make the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54   work i often those with TV shows in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57   general like everybody knows this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   experience that you're watching a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:00   show in the first two seasons are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   amazing and then the next couple sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   anything like I really just lost all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   its don't like what happened with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   isn't so good anymore and it every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   I've ever investigated you find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   it's like a couple of key people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   left em and I am absolutely convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:18   and I have this theory that almost any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:22   kind of media production like a TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:25   or like a movie is much much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:29   dependent on a handful like maybe three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:33   or four key people than you think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36   that like one or two writers make all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:39   the difference in the show being really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   good or not being really good yeah just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   like a couple of key people on a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   are what makes the difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   like why is this movie amazing and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   movie isn't there like a talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   disproportionate here if I was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54   network buying a TV show I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   that would be one of my primary concerns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   is trying to isolate something like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2038">TS</a>]

00:33:59   Great British Bake Off and from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:02   outside trying to figure out like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   were the actual vital people and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:07   to make sure that they're on board and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   that they're coming along and it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   like these two hosts were part of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14   the charm of the show and like oh now by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17   trying to buy this thing you have broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   this thing you've split these two key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   hosts and maybe now everybody loses like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:24   you've spent all this money for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:25   show and the BBC is also going to lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   because they've lost half of their vital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:31   crew and now everybody sad and everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:34   loses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:34   i mean i won't go into all the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   because it's full of intrigue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:37   there's a lot of intrigue about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:38   rights and formats and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   but it's been it's been a huge story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43   coming back just quickly to breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   news and alerts and things there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   breaking news story when Mary berry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   they'll grandmarc wit it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:52   breaking news on Twitter BBC Mary very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   quits the great british bake on and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   a few tweets and people saying I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   believe that's breaking news like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00   old lady quits hosting a TV show who but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   I tell you what that's the first story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   that's broken in weeks and weeks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   the mid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:07   isaura i followed by wife immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   I'm like you're looking about you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11   you're not gonna believe what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:12   very very quickly the back of like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:15   not bringing her upside you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   happening in politics or wars around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   world or lack disasters are a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   crashes or anything it's like oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   goodness I've got to tell my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   immediately like this is huge and do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:29   want to know why you bring your wife to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   tell her immediately that the woman has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   left the Great British Bake Off because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   unlike most of the things in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   that the news reports on the supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   important things this one directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   affects you every week if it messes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   with the TV show that you like right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   like some genocide in Africa like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48   whatever it's not going to affect me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:51   this is why you can brush it under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:52   rug and be like whatever tragedies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:55   around the world like oh there was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:56   earthquake in some third-world country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:59   and thousands are dead like how am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   going to tell anybody about it i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02   to call anybody now not really like put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:05   the Great British Bake Off this actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   affects you in a way every single week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:10   if your show is ruined so that's why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:11   call this is what's happening here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:15   is the dynamic of what is important in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:18   the world versus what actually affects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:21   you in a way that you care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:22   yeah i'll tell you what else like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:25   does make me think it is interesting how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   this touches on our world of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   video making and podcasting and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   like that because if you decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   tomorrow that you'd had enough of making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   YouTube videos and you want to pick that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   up and you decided I k well I've created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:39   this like brand and this channel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   this cool thing you couldn't do a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   with it you couldn't so cgpgrey the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   channel pudgy and walk away from her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   because it has no worth without you so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50   mean what could you do with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:51   not much not get your computer so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2211">TS</a>]

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00:41:19   was just fun i thought i'm gonna send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21   this to this has come from someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:22   called Adam he's in a group photo here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:26   some visits it's the international [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2486">TS</a>]

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00:41:53   one person there is wearing a reunion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2513">TS</a>]

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00:42:05   ok looking looking looking not as easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:08   as you thought hey when sao i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2528">TS</a>]

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00:42:13   I said you thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2533">TS</a>]

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00:42:17   think it sent me a picture of a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2537">TS</a>]

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00:42:23   swamp had t-shirts in this photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   nobody's wearing your uniform been I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2545">TS</a>]

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00:44:19   more pictures of this trial hunger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   it's an amazing place that even if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:24   didn't have this ridiculous pace of rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:25   jutting out on this unnatural angle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:29   view is just incredible of a leg below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   and mountains and greenery and snow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   it slices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:34   it's incredible but i have since been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   reading a little bit more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37   trolltunga and some people got in touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:40   after i tweeted a picture of this mid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   wake parents becoming of a controversial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   place for sort of safety reasons because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47   more and more people are trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   to it's not easy to get to but more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50   more people are going there and taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:53   it doesn't look like the world's safest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:54   place to stand and in fact I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:57   reading that recently a tourist or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00   tourists i think it was an exchange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:01   student from australia was on the trail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   tunga asking to have their photo taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06   and stepped backward didn't look what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:09   they were doing while they were having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:09   their picture taken and fell offer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:13   didn't end well obviously but they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:14   put safety rails on it so whether we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:17   should be encouraging people with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:18   photo is probably questionable to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   I'd certainly go there would you go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   stand there in every picture taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   I don't know that kind of thing makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   a little bit nervous I'm it does look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:29   perilous doesn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   yeah it looks absolutely perilous i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   don't know i think if i was there on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   day i might not go very far out on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:38   troll tongue there but people are always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:41   going to risk their lives for this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:42   of stuff and it looks like an awesomely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   beautiful place to risk your life if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   you're gonna do this and so you would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:47   out to the tip of the tongue but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   you just go partway like to the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   of something the am i might go part way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54   but look at something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55   think it's gonna break some day and or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:58   might be quite windy right but i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:02   you Brady would just crawl out right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   the edge wouldn't you be on the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:07   I don't know I I am cautious with hearts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09   but i remember when i was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11   forbidden kingdom of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:12   and we walked up to a place called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   Tiger's Nest monastery which is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   incredible monastery perched why up on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   cliff and I saw big long walk along all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:21   these rocky paths along the cliff and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   stopped at one point where lots and lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:24   of people take photos because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   amazing you're looking from 1click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:27   across to the other and our guards that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:30   are you know what was actually just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:31   few weeks ago a tourist from Thailand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   was having their photo taken right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:34   you are but they leaned against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   wooden hand rail which they shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   have done and the handrail gave way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   they just went right off the cliff all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41   the way to the bottom and when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   told that story affected me like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   know when you're standing at the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   where it happened and look at your total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:48   few weeks ago someone fell down there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   suddenly you're like gosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:53   and then every time you have a photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:54   taken your like setting your fate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   making sure you stand the right place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   and it's so easy when you're taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01   photos to do something stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:02   yeah especially because you're so often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   looking away from the data right yeah if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07   you drive back up to get into frame and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:08   what's over you go especially seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   Stan was holding this flag when you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   that picture taken like a big sail so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   i'm not sure how wise that was but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:18   lived to send the email say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   remember I told you about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:23   company that every three months or every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   six months sends me this bill 42 pounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   for this ground rent or something where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   i live in this house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:31   so anyway I got my latest invoice from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   them two pounds which I have to pee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   every six months just to live in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   house because of some out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:39   eighteen-hundreds law right right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42   resent it but i have to do it so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   wrote the check this morning and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   about to send it off but what I did was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   I put it in an envelope and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:51   followed the envelope in half three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   four times and then wrapped all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:54   sticky tape around it and then I put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   in like another envelope and I wrapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   in all this packing tape and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   that and that I put in a third envelope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   already take that up because if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   going to get their two-pound check off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:05   me like I want them to work for I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08   to do two pounds of work to get to it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   i have created this big like pass the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:13   parcel taped-up thing if they will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:16   want to get their check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   I don't know I was just like in a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   funny half weird mode and I did and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   got it on my desk now I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   you know which would be ironic if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   decide not to do it because then I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27   going to be the one that has to dig into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   an underwater these envelopes and cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   all the tape and everything ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:32   I mean this there's so many things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   really don't even know where to begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   ok let me send your picture part of okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39   you're gonna make me feel bad now I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   now I can just tell from your tone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   it's like you're not angry maybe you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45   disappointed i think what the thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:46   sent you is one of the envelopes going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   into one of the other envelopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:49   okay you're disappointed in me I ok so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:53   feel like I want to walk you through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   few things here Brady now how to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   about the world and i guess for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:02   listeners who don't remember the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:03   this was just because there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   company which collects up a bunch of old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:06   title deeds and land deeds like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:09   their entire business having people pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   them small amounts of money from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:12   contractor like 200 years old on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   technicality and so Brady has to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   this little fee two pounds every six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   months or whatever was because of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:22   land deal from 300 here is ya up so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:25   is love the UK for this guy's stuff yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   so first of all let me say that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:31   sympathize with your frustration about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   the situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:34   ok I too would find it very frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   to be in this situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38   okay okay right so I like we're on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   same page here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   I can however when I don't understand is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:46   why on earth would you take more of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:52   time to cause essentially a trivial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:56   amount of frustration to whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:59   company is in charge of doing this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   of stuff em like you have changed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:04   situation from Annoying company for from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   old technicality is getting two pounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   off of me to company is getting two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:11   pounds off of me and they're costing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:14   whatever it is 20 minutes of my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:17   more than is necessary and she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:20   sitting there folding of the check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   scratch you didn't envelope i could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   wrapping it in this brown tape you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   going to stick it in another envelope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   I mean I hate to say this Brady but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:31   actually looks really ineffective like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:32   how long do you think it's going to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:33   someone with a pair of scissors to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:34   through this envelope i think five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   seconds right stuff wasn't thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:38   clicking scissors i would just cut open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40   the top there's no way you even caused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:41   real inconvenience here this to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:44   like pointless human frustration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:47   manifested i know i say i've thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:50   about that great because the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   envelope is folded several times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:55   then taped so if you just cut it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:56   will also cut the check so you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:59   be careful how you open the envelope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   right buddy but here's the thing if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   cut the check out what do they care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06   the check is just null and void and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   they'll just kill you again right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:09   Thank I guess what I'm trying to walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   through here is like what's your endgame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:14   here Brady what change do you wish to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   effect in the world right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   it was cathartic did you feel better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:21   after doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:22   yes yeah you feel better ya doing it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:26   now I don't because now you're making me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:27   feel bad about it i was sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:31   checking away from myself thinking how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   hard this show and her you know thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   this is fun and you know it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:38   little fun thing for a few minutes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3098">TS</a>]

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00:51:49   out the check and sending it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3109">TS</a>]

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00:58:19   been pretty busy with my work and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3499">TS</a>]

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00:59:32   my hand at the beginning of this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:35   propose to alternative names for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37   YouTube Heroes program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   yep it should be either called YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:42   tools or YouTube whole monitors ok this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:49   is the way I feel about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:50   ok that's like pre fits yeah okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:55   what YouTube is that rolled out just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:56   earlier this week as we are recording is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:56   earlier this week as we are recording is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3596">TS</a>]

01:00:00   essentially a kind of moderation program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:04   that they're implementing and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:07   put up this little youtube video with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09   happy music and little cartoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11   characters try to explain this program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:16   whereby which some YouTube users can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:20   apply to become a hero and what a hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:25   can do is a hero has abilities to flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:30   videos and to moderate content in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:35   ambiguous not clearly defined way and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:39   add subtitles to youtube videos these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:43   seem to be the primary things but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:46   everybody kind of flipped out about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:49   this notion that there's some level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   people that have the ability to flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:55   what was originally labeled as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   inappropriate content on YouTube but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:01   great anyone can flag videos a flag with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   extra power presumably like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   flagging means it gets pulled down all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   yes this is what I think caused a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10   of the confusion because exactly this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   will give you log onto YouTube right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:13   and and you go to any video there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   little button to report it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   inappropriate content like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:19   already a thing that you can just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:20   anybody can do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   yeah and that doesn't mean it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:23   get ripped down it just means if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   hundred people do it in 10 minutes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:26   shame someone that says hang on let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   have a look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:29   right exactly like presumably that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   what's occurring if you press the report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   button it doesn't immediately remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:34   someone's video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:35   no but i think that this is in the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:38   line of like YouTube not being super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40   great communication I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42   partly what caused the problem because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   if they release a video saying youtube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:47   heroes have the ability to flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:50   inappropriate content and showed someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:52   like Apple II clicking on a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54   videos are looking to get like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:55   red x's on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:56   yeah because people can already report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   stuff people are naturally going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   assume that there must be more to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:03   like otherwise what are you talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   about you're talking about a feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:06   that already exists and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   people were very quick to jump to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   conclusion that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:11   that YouTube heroes must be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   remove content from YouTube because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:17   otherwise what are you talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:20   in the meantime what has occurred is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:21   that YouTube has come out to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:23   clarify the situation with YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:25   heroes and as far as i can tell YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:29   heroes just seems to be a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:32   youtube is trying to create a group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:37   people whose flagging of videos they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:42   weigh more heavily okay 1,000 civilians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:47   flag video lets off a warning bell at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:50   YouTube but if 20 heroes flag video that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:53   sets off the same warning bell that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   the impression that i'm getting that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57   the way it seems to be I hope that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3777">TS</a>]

01:03:00   case and I hope we're not just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:01   digging you too bad about how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:03   should be in because they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:04   something stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06   well there was a reddit AMA which was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08   interview with a bunch of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   were you two heroes which is still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   hard time even just saying it up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14   it's like you want to like this like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16   most unheroic thing ever because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:18   feels kind of like tattling yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:20   should be code youtube snitches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:23   I understand the problem that YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:26   has like I understand that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:29   really horrific stuff which is uploaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:32   to YouTube constantly like youtube I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   get it that there's a lot of horrors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:35   that most normal people never seen on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37   youtube and you and you need ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:38   figure out all this stuff but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   the hero named just feels so wrong for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:44   like the thing that's happening because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   most people's experience it's a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48   grandi ice isn't it yeah it's a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50   grandiose and you know even the videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52   like every hero needs a bit of glory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:55   again from like reading about what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   it feels a lot like janitorial work like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   boy his place is a real mess like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   need a bunch of people to clean it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   how can we get them to clean it up will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05   call them heroes like will give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:08   points to do that its just oh so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:12   think they need someone to do poor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:13   grunt work and their incentivizing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:16   with mike glory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19   ok have you seen the actual video that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:23   was the original announcement video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   no well apparently that's impossible now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   because i heard another controversy was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   they changed the video like with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31   same link they actually went in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:34   replaced the video with had to change a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36   few things that had caused the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38   problems and it's only like it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:41   dodgy you know pirate versions you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   see what they originally said yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45   also falls into the category of how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:48   you best extinguish controversy online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51   probably not by using powers that nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:55   else has to change your video and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:58   make no reference about the changes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   have occurred and hope nobody notices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   that's probably not the best way to calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:05   the situation down is to literally 1984 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:10   style throw your original video down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:13   memory hole and replace it with a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   video that has changed the wording of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18   key points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   it's like guys that this is not the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:23   to do this this is going to come nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25   down this is going to make everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:28   angrier because now they can point to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   thing where you're trying to go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32   like retro actively change something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   like it's fine to try to be clearer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:37   if you're trying to be clearer you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   to do that in a clear way not like over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:42   going back and we're just changing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:43   thing and we're not going to make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:44   reference to it yeah it's the worst way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46   to do this the minor problem with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:48   is as well it's not just like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:49   caught in a cover-up which is the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   possible thing to happen right let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53   also dredged up this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:55   acorn of people wanting to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   replace and fix their videos what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   exactly is the last debate they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   to get drawn into a whole other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03   now they've been pulled into that buddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   storm as well right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07   I think that's something we brought up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:08   on the first episode of Hello internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10   two years ago in fact that desire to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   replace us as a thing that all creators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15   would love to have it as like obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   youtube as the owner of the platform is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:18   like of course they can go in and modify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:21   their own database like surprise is none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   is just dredging up another thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:27   creators to get really angry about and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:30   do want to have just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:31   a little moment of sympathy for you too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33   because while youtube definitely I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:36   we as we have mentioned many times does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:38   not handle these situations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:39   communicating with creators well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   ultimately like the heroes program i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43   think is relatively innocuous but came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:46   across in just the wrong way and turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   into a gigantic storm it's like YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50   you must know by now that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:53   growing industry of people who make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:56   living off of youtube outraged right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:58   it's like people know now that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:01   profit to be made by getting furious at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:05   YouTube immediately about stuff and if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:09   if you're aware of that you need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11   careful i wonder why people think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13   us which I don't think we are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15   whenever these scandals come up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17   Twitter fills up with people going are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:18   brady and great you got to go and kick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20   youtube about YouTube heroes now as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   like I feel like where they put in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   boat of it and I have sympathy for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:25   to I don't want to kick them i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:27   like them all the people there i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:30   met are like and like they've created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   this thing that's given me like a career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   so I don't like that business industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36   of kicking them in the gas but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38   sure as hell is crazy i think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:41   the one especially because we just went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:44   through the d monetization thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:45   whatever it was two or three weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   and then this happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:48   yeah i think it's close enough that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   becomes obvious that in a way it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:55   but I see a similar pattern with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:57   whenever a new iPhone comes out there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59   obviously an industry of people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:03   just desperate to find what is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:06   wrong with this phone to turn it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08   the scandal about this phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10   yeah because it means that there's a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12   of money to be made if you are the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:16   person who can find something wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:19   the phone like this is just a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   exists yet the antenna that doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   or the battery that over hate so right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25   or like bending it on purpose right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:27   try to like it affects heard a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:28   foresight like that's been on Ben's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:31   outrageous like yeah of course it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:32   doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:33   why wouldn't it but this is like a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35   and so I think yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   youtube finds himself in the position of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39   there are people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:42   will want to get angry at everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:46   they do immediately because now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:49   itself has become like a metal genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   that exists on the platform in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:54   way that like youtube drama exists that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:56   people love to get angry at other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:59   YouTube channels and that that YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:01   channels creators being angry at other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:04   Creators is it like a total thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:07   think is sometimes done like quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:09   cynically right where I'm not sure how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:10   much people really care but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:11   you get a lot of attention if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   creating like a fight between two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   youtube channels so yeah I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:18   have sympathy for you to be in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20   situation and it's part of the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:23   why I didn't want to go on Twitter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:24   complain about stuff right away because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27   I did feel like let me wait to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:28   youtube says and then I only said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:31   something on Twitter when they pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:32   the memory hole trick like we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   gonna retro actively wipe the video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   put something up the new and like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   you've just made a terrible mistake like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40   now I feel a little bit better coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42   out and saying like this is awful like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   this is not a good idea you don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:45   this but i did kinda want to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47   because I didn't want to have just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49   a knee-jerk reaction about it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   people expect us to be super angry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53   this but in many ways i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55   YouTube heroes is largely much ado about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4195">TS</a>]

01:10:01   nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03   I don't necessarily think it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   deal or as big of a deal as people / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   traded initially rah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:10   so the obvious concern would be imbuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:13   an authorized strangers with a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:17   power to have videos removal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:19   creators penalized if that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:22   case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:22   do you have any thoughts about if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:25   they're just like you know giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:26   frequent flyer points to people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:29   helped them by doing lots of their grunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31   work then do you have any concerns about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33   that or do you just think it's like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35   a bit of an a thing or do you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37   thoughts about them in listing all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   free labor rather than employing more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:42   people themselves to fix these problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44   they want out with because that was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46   of the other criticisms i saw it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:47   bit like they're in this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49   slave labor when they should employ more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:51   people to be policing there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   Wild West it will that I think is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:56   has ended up for me being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58   interesting question about this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:01   program thinking about you two euros as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:03   one of the reasons why i asked you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:05   you've seen the video because the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:07   shows like sign up to be a youtube hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:10   and and what happens to you again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12   now as you act heroically online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:14   flagging videos you know and tattling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:17   and will give you points and like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:20   happens as you earn points and watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:23   this video the first thing that struck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:25   me about it was it was so job like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:30   of the things they say that once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:31   sign up like you'll join a community and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33   then what can you do when you join the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:34   community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:35   you can learn more at exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:38   workshops that sounds like a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:42   meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:42   that's what that sounds like you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   part of the HR department and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46   going to have a workshop about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:48   counts as appropriate and inappropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   content on YouTube like surely that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:53   what you mean by these workshops like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55   what else are the workshops going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57   about two enough free work for us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   we'll try to be more free work right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:02   will train you to make sure that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:03   really on board with how we want things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:05   to happen and then the next one is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:07   like it says take part in hero video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:10   chats and i want to show someone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:11   super happy to be talking to three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13   randos right on his computer in a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:15   chat like and again it's like okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:18   this is a conference call the structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   of this whole thing is YouTube has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:24   problem where they want to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:26   that content that doesn't mean they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28   appropriate guidelines like isn't on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:29   their website and again like a case i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:31   can sort of go along with that to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33   certain extent but if the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:34   structure of this program is to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:36   them solve this problem Nick what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:39   these video chats going to be of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:40   they're just going to be more meetings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   like it's just it's a meeting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:44   someone who's higher up is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:45   telling you how they want you to do your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:48   hero job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   it essentially says if you follow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:51   through like here's what happens you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:53   join up to be a hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55   you will be trained at workshops and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:58   through video chats on how to be a hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:01   if you are good enough will unlock tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:05   so that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07   deal with videos on a much wider faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:10   scale so you can do more stuff for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:12   that's worrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:14   yeah if you do a good job of this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:17   will eventually be able to go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:22   conference with other YouTube heroes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:26   so it's like all of it just sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:27   its work it just sounds like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:30   essentially a free job that we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:35   people to do for youtube I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:38   how to feel about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40   it's partly why i keep thinking of it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42   like YouTube Hall monitors like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:45   these hall monitors in school and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:49   school does this and as a teacher when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:52   you see the kids who sign up to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54   Hall monitors they can have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   thoughts about those kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:58   what kind of kids sign up to be home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:00   monitors the other thing that's a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:02   concerning the great to do you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:05   I know you're not an expert on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:07   YouTube Heroes program but you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:08   bit more than a is there any indication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:09   that these rewards you earn come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:13   the number of times you snitch because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:16   that also sounds like a problem to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:18   because it's a bit like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:19   rewarding parking inspectors for how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:21   many tickets they give suddenly they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23   become more and more draconian and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25   lenient or they won't start you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27   pushing the Rose a little bit themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29   because they're being rewarded for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:31   punishing others so i hope the heroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   are being rewarded for the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:34   videos they watch and not the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:37   videos they flag because i don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   them to stop flagging things to try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:40   get their reward points up right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:42   reading through the interviews another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44   and the clarification that YouTube has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:45   put out here is my best understanding of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:48   how the system works so videos that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50   flagged on youtube now whether it be by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:53   heroes or just as regular civilians in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:56   the trenches who are not heroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   ultimately all that happens is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00   those videos then go to some mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:03   actual group of paid employees within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05   YouTube who determine whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07   like the content is or is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09   appropriate right and so this group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:12   actual youtube employees makes a call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:14   about yes this is a video that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:16   have been reported and we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:17   remove it or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:18   yeah and YouTube gave a number which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:21   says that if you look at just randos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:24   flagging videos their accuracy as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:27   measured by how often does YouTube agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   it's like thirty percent accurate so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:32   randos flag videos way more than YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:34   thinks the content is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:37   inappropriate which is not surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:38   it's interesting to have a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:40   attached to that what do you think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:41   think the numbers too big you think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:42   numbers too small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:43   I've never thought about it before so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   now that i think about a yeah I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:48   anyone can flag video just because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:49   didn't like or someone's hair looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:51   like or they could let you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:53   press the wrong button so i guess if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:54   just one flag counts in that number then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:57   I'm not surprised thirty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:58   effective could have easily been lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00   debt to me at that number seems almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:02   crazily high when you think if I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:04   how much people disagree about what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:07   or is not appropriate content like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   fundamental part of this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:10   conversation is like what is the notion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:11   of appropriate content will put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:13   aside for the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:14   yeah so regular people have a terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:17   low hit rate what I think is happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:19   and what seems to be the case is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21   the YouTube heroes is a way to isolate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:25   the people whose flagging agrees much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:29   more with YouTube's actual paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:33   employees who determine what is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:34   not appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:35   yeah and so I saw on the red discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:39   with people who are the beta program for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:42   the heroes that their numbers were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:45   like the 90 95 plus percent agreements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:48   with the YouTube paid employees and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:52   my speculation here is that they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:54   getting points for simply flagging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:57   videos that there's some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:59   algorithm about how much do you agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:03   okay with what our actual employees are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:06   doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:07   that's good that's kind there were some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:08   comments along those lines of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10   are flagging videos that don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:12   ever get a agreement or have very low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:14   agreement rates that they're essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:17   pushed out of the program or the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:18   doesn't really recommend them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:19   ok so that's why i say like the heroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:22   thing it seems to me to just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:24   YouTube's attempt to create a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:27   reliable group of people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:30   flagging videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:31   yeah that's what this purpose is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:33   they say look if we just look at all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:35   the flags is is very noisy data it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:38   only thirty percent right which means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40   we're wasting seventy percent of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:41   time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:42   let's get a bunch of Ernest busybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:44   hall monitor types to flag videos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:50   essentially cut down on the workload for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:52   our actual pain employees that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:54   the way this program strikes me that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:57   what's occurring here we will reward you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4677">TS</a>]

01:17:59   with something that's very much like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:03   job but it's not a job and might involve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:04   conferences we will reward you with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:07   for acting as a pre-filter for the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:12   that our actual paid employees have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:13   do and that's what the heroes program is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4693">TS</a>]

01:18:17   that's what i mean by like it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:19   a whole lot of nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:21   I almost wonder why YouTube is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:24   bothering publishing this they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:28   have done a secretly couldn't night we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:29   could have all had a secret number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   attached to us on a sort of flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:33   accuracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:34   yeah and they could have just known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:35   Brady's a hero he's flags are always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:38   ignore raise flags because he's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:40   know he's a bit of a hothead all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   trigger-happy oh they could have had all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:44   the data and done this program that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:46   knowing i guess that what they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:47   do the reason that made a public is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:49   incentivize people to flag because if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51   see something inappropriate i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53   be honest with you I don't forget I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:55   think well that's inappropriate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:56   probably stop watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:58   look I'm not a flag that because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:00   stitch that Brady's no rat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:05   exactly so I guess that's why they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:09   made a public because they want people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:10   to you know take pride in being a snitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:13   well I don't know it's the cut and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:15   thing that you expect from a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:17   thanks for asking company like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:19   choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:20   they're all you know they're reaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:21   out and building communities and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:25   heroes and that's RI I appreciate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:27   i'm just a cynical person here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:29   England getting rained on and thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:31   everything's terrible and they're over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:33   there in the sunshine thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:34   everything's lovely and we all can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:36   heroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:37   yeah I don't know it's just I have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:41   conflicted feelings about this in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43   ways I think it's much ado about nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45   and if people want to participate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:48   this program I mean fine i guess i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:52   really have an issue with it to me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:55   also tied up with so much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:58   internet is related to the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:00   it's a tool that allows a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:01   distributed coordination among lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:05   people like the very fact that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:08   like I really need to draw the sharp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:10   line between there's some group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:11   people who are getting paid at YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   to take down videos and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:16   there's this other group of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:17   are doing very very similar work but are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:19   not getting paid and this is like heroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:21   vs. employees but this dynamic exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:25   all over the web in lots of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:27   forms that i feel like i can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:29   complain about United's like Wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:33   is the easiest example ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:34   are there people who work at Wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:36   who get paid by the funds that wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:38   raises but wikipedia is built on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:42   an enormous army of people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:44   created an entire bureaucracy within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:48   wikipedia about who are more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:50   trusted editors this actually affects us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:53   personally with our hello internet page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:54   which got vandalized so many times that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:57   well now you have to be some certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:59   level of wikipedia editor before you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:02   allowed to make change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:03   I don't know why our page would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:04   been vandalized so frequently I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:06   believe that now I have no idea that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:08   was probably the loose affection but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4868">TS</a>]

01:21:10   that's an example of like do I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:12   real problem with that no is it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:16   wikipedia is a not-for-profit company i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:19   guess but then in the exact same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:22   it's like reddit is the same thing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:24   over again like reddit is a for-profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:25   company but every time people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27   upvote or downvote links like in a sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:30   you doing work for reddit they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:32   like a distributed let the crowd find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:35   the interesting things that people want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:36   to talk about stuff so it's like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:39   doing work for read it when I up-or-down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:41   vote links and do I really care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:44   that not really i also reward people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:46   don't live with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:47   fake glory that night rather let you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49   same thing as heroes you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51   camera and your points and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   pointless glory if you get karma for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   submitting links that people like me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   you lose karma when you say on popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   things I don't know I just feel like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:00   much of the internet is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:03   versions of this and it's hard to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:06   consistent feeling about it even again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:11   like my framing of YouTube heroes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:12   like YouTube tools like you are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14   used as a literal tool by YouTube for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:17   free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:18   participating in this program i can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:22   that but then at the same time like do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:23   feel like a tool uploading or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:25   downloading links on reddit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:27   no do I feel like a tool if I correct a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:29   typo on wikipedia know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:33   so is this that different and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:37   don't know I don't know I as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:38   these people don't have the final say in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:42   things then it's pretty hard to complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:44   about it if these people don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:47   sole power to remove a video from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:50   youtube or you know effect creators fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:55   opportunity on the platform then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:57   pretty hard to complain about it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4977">TS</a>]

01:23:00   guess they have the power to send more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:01   of us to court and previously before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:03   they're almost like slightly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:05   powerful police men at play and they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:08   let you know if their referrals carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10   greater weight they're gonna start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:11   sending more people to the court of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:13   YouTube to be ruled around there like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15   secret police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:16   yeah yeah so that's really what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18   what it feel like and I agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:20   like more people will be before the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:22   court of YouTube yeah but then again if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24   you two have got their act together luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:26   Yusei maybe they do and the police are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:29   being monitored and you know if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:31   policeman who's reporting lots of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:33   wrongly you lose your badge then alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:36   then sounds like they've kind of got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:37   system in place that's kinda going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39   work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:39   I think they're trying to defuse a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41   of the anger and confusion over this by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:44   saying that like we're just referring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:45   stuff up to the the actual court we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47   don't have the power to remove videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:49   like let's make it clear that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:50   case and so to me it feels like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:53   diffusing anger around the YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:55   Heroes program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:57   but still always comes back to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5037">TS</a>]

01:23:58   real argument takes place over what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:02   it that the YouTube court decides and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:04   the heroes thing is just a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06   distraction on the side like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:08   actually what matters is what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10   YouTube think is appropriate or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:11   inappropriate for their platform that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:14   a complicated question their guidelines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:16   are vague and I think intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:18   vague so that they can rule the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:20   want a purely selfish perspective great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:23   do you worry about that because I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:25   you seem to be so far from that line in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:27   the sand of what is acceptable and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:30   acceptable content that this must not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:32   even come into your mind like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:33   like anything you've ever made is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:36   get ripped down for that reason so are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:38   you worrying just because of a general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:40   worry about the platform or free speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:43   I mean you're not wired from it so fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:45   perspective I i have no personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:48   connection to this fight in the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:51   that I I think it's pretty unlikely that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:54   any video that i would upload would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:56   probably be deemed by YouTube is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:58   inappropriate content but just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5098">TS</a>]

01:25:02   it doesn't affect me is not a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04   of if i find it concerning or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:07   again I always want to sympathize with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:08   you like I understand that they're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:10   difficult position but i always start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:13   getting really uncomfortable when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:15   are outlining guidelines of what is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:20   is not appropriate because ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:23   this comes down to some kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:25   human consensus decision even whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:29   you try to like write out the guidelines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:31   really what it boils down to is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:34   we're going to have some group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:36   and they are going to decide what's cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:40   and what's not cool it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:43   really interesting whenever you talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45   people about how it's it's so hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47   get people to agree on what they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:50   is appropriate or inappropriate so I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:53   just start getting a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:54   uncomfortable and a little bit nervous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:56   when this gets set up like there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:59   court somewhere that makes decisions I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:03   like a more free-for-all approach to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:06   this stuff all that great for as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:08   we've been talking about this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:10   we've been talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:10   this since before we even started making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:13   hello internet and you've always very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:15   much had this attitude that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:16   hey YouTube the company they own it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:19   can't decide what to do with it we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:20   have to live with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:21   you know it's not like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:23   democratically elected government is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:25   like a free open-source thing we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:27   their hands we have to accept it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:29   that's the price we pay for being on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:31   blue and then over time you seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:33   drifting more and more towards this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:34   thing where you believe it is like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:36   Democratic place where people should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:38   allowed to do what they want and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:40   shouldn't be in charge and look a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:42   hundred percent sure where you sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:43   stand on that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:44   well no there's a distinction here which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46   is the YouTube is a company and they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:49   do what they want and I think the heroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:51   program along with the d monetization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:53   strategy that happened a couple weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:55   ago I think this is all combined with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:57   the knowledge that youtube is still not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   profitable as far as I'm aware of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:01   last time we checked up on that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:03   that this is all generally a movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:06   toward make youtube more advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:10   friendly and more profitable like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:12   that's what they want to do and like can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5232">TS</a>]

01:27:14   I argue against that as the goal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16   YouTube as a company now it's entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:19   within their rights and partly their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:22   obligation to do just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:24   like I'm not necessarily even saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:27   like if I was the CEO of YouTube would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:29   act differently like well the CEO of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:32   YouTube is under a bunch of constraints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:34   she's not just a person who can just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:37   whatever she wants like she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   obligations to shareholders she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41   obligations to the parent company like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   there are goals that are set like she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45   can't just do with thing and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:48   understand why this happens but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:50   different question from like how do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:52   personally feel knowing that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:57   YouTube court who ultimately their goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5277">TS</a>]

01:28:02   is to keep the platform advertiser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:06   friendly i'm not a super fan of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:08   feeling i don't really like that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:12   can understand why it occurs it's also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5292">TS</a>]

01:28:14   very different question of like we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:17   had this essentially this same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5297">TS</a>]

01:28:19   discussion when you talk about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:20   Reddit like and what kind of content can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:22   be on reddit and read it has gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:23   through this stuff like ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:24   three social media platform goes through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:26   this exact same thing of it becomes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:30   enormous thing its CEOs its board of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:33   directors have structural obligations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:36   that they're trying to meet there trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:37   to make it profitable how do you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:38   part of the way is to remove content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:41   that advertisers don't like this happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:43   all the time but it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:45   question of like let's say somehow i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5325">TS</a>]

01:28:49   running a video sharing company and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:52   was also with thing that I had never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:55   to do venture capital funding for that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5335">TS</a>]

01:28:57   had no investors in like it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5337">TS</a>]

01:28:59   100-percent privately held company you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:03   know what would I do with that service i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:07   feel like i would try to lean as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:10   possible along the like easy to legal in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:13   the country that it's being published in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:16   if that's the case then obviously it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:18   to come down because I would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5358">TS</a>]

01:29:20   work within the constraints of the law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5360">TS</a>]

01:29:21   like you can't go against that but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:24   feel like i would try to lean personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:26   much further on the like do you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:30   things that people really don't want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:31   to say it's like well their words and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:35   people might not like them but I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:38   more ok with like leaving up stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:40   i don't personally agree with but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:42   a totally different situation where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:44   are imagining that I have way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:46   leeway and running a thing it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5386">TS</a>]

01:29:48   it's my private company i have no one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:50   answer to how would I do it you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:52   then like with all this stuff there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:54   always going to be edge cases and edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5394">TS</a>]

01:29:55   cases are where stuff starts to Road and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5395">TS</a>]

01:29:58   so like I have a lot of sympathy for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:02   people who do end up in charge of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:04   big systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:06   yeah and of course it also gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:08   complicated when children get involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:10   as well yeah I mean well that's why all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:13   of these services have at least the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:15   extensible rule that no children should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:16   be using them in the first place which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:17   we all know is a lie but as the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:19   yeah there's nobody under 13 on facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:21   i'm sure there aren't but so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:23   it's it's complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:25   I have sympathy for the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:26   in charge of this but that is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:29   different from like my personal feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:33   about how it goes but i understand i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:37   think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:37   one complicating factor though which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:40   I think we're now in a world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:44   social media services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:48   I don't know this is what matters is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:50   probably going a little bit too far but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:52   they're almost like public forums other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:56   almost like a kind of public property [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5456">TS</a>]

01:30:58   where it's it's very easy to say like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:02   youtube as an individual entity is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:05   allowed to do whatever it wants and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:06   shutdown people that it doesn't like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:10   twitter is also able to do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5470">TS</a>]

01:31:12   facebook is also able to do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:14   like on an individual case it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:17   easy to point to one of them and to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:19   like oh yes of course they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:20   able to do it but in the aggregate I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:24   don't know I feel like they are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:25   rapidly becoming absolutely vital tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:28   of human communication and to restrict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:33   those in ways makes me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:36   uncomfortable but yeah I think it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:38   be a little bit too far to say like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:39   it's almost like they're public squares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:41   where people should be able to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:42   about whatever they want i don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:43   think that's the case but I think as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:46   they become more powerful and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:47   central in our lives they up approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:49   that they they really do we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5509">TS</a>]

01:31:53   removing someone from twitter is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:55   damaging I think they do agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5515">TS</a>]

01:31:58   yeah I see what you're reluctant to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5518">TS</a>]

01:32:00   there and where there are a few little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:02   pitfalls but i think they have getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5522">TS</a>]

01:32:04   very close to that I know why you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5524">TS</a>]

01:32:06   scared to talk about talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5526">TS</a>]

01:32:08   because it's very complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:11   I'm not scared are talking about it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:12   just think it's like to actually declare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:15   that there's something like a public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:17   forum is a very different thing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:20   just like everybody should have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5540">TS</a>]

01:32:21   right to say what they want on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:23   actually private companies property i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5543">TS</a>]

01:32:26   can't really cross that line is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:28   like there's conflicting values here of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:31   should companies be able to do what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:33   want with their property yes it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:35   people be able to express themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:36   even if they express ideas that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:38   everybody likes yes that you run into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:41   conflicts of these two things I maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:43   I'm just thinking of this it as I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:44   along so maybe this is a stupid thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:45   but I think to use a UK example I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5565">TS</a>]

01:32:49   maybe some of these platforms like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:51   facebook and twitter we're almost get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:53   into a situation where you need to treat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:55   them almost like the UK has public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57   rights-of-way what do you mean well that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5577">TS</a>]

01:32:58   in the UK you can own a piece of land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5578">TS</a>]

01:33:00   like you can own a farm or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:02   blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:03   but if there's a public right-of-way if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:04   it's a path going through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:06   the public has a fundamental right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:08   walk across and you can't say get off my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:09   land I own the land although it is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:11   land em the public has a right to walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:15   across it to get from A to B into do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:16   certain things there's a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5596">TS</a>]

01:33:18   famous protests things in sort of UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:20   history that got a lot of landmarks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:22   stuff happened I appreciate where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5602">TS</a>]

01:33:23   was a big protests about this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:25   for ethical farmer was like shutting his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:27   land and not letting the hikers and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:29   walkers go across this land and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:31   kicked off and in the end it was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:33   victory for walkers around the UK and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:35   that's why the UK such a great place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:37   walk to this day because we have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:39   public rights-of-way where you can walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:41   across other people's land in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:43   cases Lou at but that doesn't mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:45   person doesn't either land and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5625">TS</a>]

01:33:47   like Facebook and Twitter maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5627">TS</a>]

01:33:48   getting into that sort of territory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:50   where yes Facebook owner and they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:53   find sheep on if they want and they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5633">TS</a>]

01:33:55   plant a tree and they can make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:57   that's all they're right but there still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5637">TS</a>]

01:33:58   is a public right-of-way component to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5638">TS</a>]

01:34:00   where they have to acknowledge that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:03   they're going to own this mega farm in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:05   popular place the public have to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:07   to use it to in certain ways that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:09   can't just put a padlock on the gate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:12   public do have certain rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:13   hmm that's an interesting metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5653">TS</a>]

01:34:16   that's an interesting way to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:17   it if it turns out being a good one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5657">TS</a>]

01:34:20   just remember i said at first is a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:23   if it's a lousy one let's just pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5663">TS</a>]

01:34:25   that never happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV83bSk/5665">TS</a>]